Jeff Dayton:The man who led Glen Campbell's band shares his remarkable career path.

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<v SPEAKER_00>My career in the entertainment industry has enabled me to work with a diverse range of talent.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Through my years of experience, I've recognized two essential aspects.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Industry professionals, whether famous stars or behind-the-scenes staff have fascinating stories to tell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Secondly, audiences are eager to listen to these stories, which offer a glimpse into their lives and the evolution of their life stories.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This podcast aims to share these narratives, providing information on how they evolved into their chosen career.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We will delve into their journey to stardom, discuss their struggles and successes, and hear from people who help them achieve their goals.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Get ready for intriguing behind-the-scenes stories and insights into the fascinating world of entertainment.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Hi, I'm Tony Mantor.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Welcome to Almost Live Nashville.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Joining us today is Jeff Dayton.

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<v SPEAKER_00>After 15 years as band leader with Hall of Fame legend Glenn Campbell and touring with country icons like Lee Greenwood and Kenny Chesney, Jeff has now launched an intimate show saluting Glenn Campbell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The performances features Campbell's timeless hits woven with personal stories from their years together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>With a wealth of unforgettable moments from his time here in Nashville, Jeff is here to share some of those cherished memories with us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's a true pleasure to have him here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thanks for coming on.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Man, what a great opportunity to be on, and thank you for inviting me to do this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, it's my pleasure.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So you started out in music.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Did you always know that music was going to be your career?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, it was your passion, or did it just kind of fall in place for you?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, it seems like it has.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was five years old and I wrote a book about going to the moon, and I really wanted to be an astronaut.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Then I wanted to be a pro baseball player, first baseman.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That was my spot.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But music was inspired by my dad, George Dayton, and he had a guitar in the closet.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And when I opened up their closet one time and I went, whoa, that's a guitar.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He was a weekend warrior in Dixieland groups playing rhythm guitar, and his man was Freddie Green from Count Basie.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And we know we talked about that for years afterwards, but it got me um into the guitar wanting a guitar, and and he was gone by the time my mom bought me my first guitar, just on the cusp of being 10 years old, and it's been off to the races ever since.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I've had a couple of what we call straight jobs in the business, you know?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yeah, I get that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, once you got your guitar, did you have lessons or did you just start picking it up by ear and move forward that way?

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<v SPEAKER_01>I got that guitar in fourth grade in the spring of fourth grade.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And first thing I did was take it to school to perform on it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But if you're listening closely, you recognize that I don't still know how to play a guitar.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And I brought it to school and started trying to play it, and my teacher said, Jeff, that's really nice.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Why don't you take that home and work on it for a while and then bring it back for us?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because I didn't realize until that point that I didn't know how to play, but in my heart, my in my being, I was a guitar player.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I could this was gonna be easy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So I signed up for lessons at the music store, and it was some old guy who taught me out of some decrepit old dusty book.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Nothing against him personally, but I just it wasn't for me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I wanted, you know, popular music, and these were songs like buzzing on the B string.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know, they couldn't make it more boring.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And so uh that's what I did.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And I got I ran into friends who had big sisters that played guitar, and they showed me the chords to uh give me my boots and saddle, learned my first A chord from her, and that was it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, then it was in school.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was a drummer in the school band in fifth grade.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Drums and guitar.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I always and I asked him, Can't you just write charts for the guitar?

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<v SPEAKER_01>And he said, No, we don't have guitar.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, I said, Well, can't you just put them in there?

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<v SPEAKER_01>He goes, No, pick something else.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So I said, Okay, drums.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This story sounds so familiar.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was a piano player and they didn't have piano in concert band.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we made a deal.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They created a stage band for me to play piano in, but meanwhile, I had to play drums, percussion, timpani, whatever.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In retrospect, it was actually pretty good.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Every piece of music you get to learn gives you a perspective and helps you move forward.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Mm-hmm.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You remember your Rudiments book from Haskell W.

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<v SPEAKER_01>H.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I wish I still had it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That was the where I practiced.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The very first music book that I learned piano from was Big Note for Piano for the Beginners.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh man.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The cool story about that book when I went to Berkeley College of Music, I sat down with my improv professor.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, Play me your best song.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I sat down and played him a Beethoven.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He said, Good.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then he put a book, he says, This is what we're gonna learn from, and it was the big note for beginners.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I looked at him, I said, That's what I learned from.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>His response, well then you should know it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then he went on to show me different things and improv from that book that I never thought was possible.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's great.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That is truly great.

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<v SPEAKER_01>My sister had a book called How to Play Piano Despite Years of Lessons.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I love that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, and I I remember I was in the my first college band at Southwest Minnesota State College.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The sex player, Chris Nolte, who I'm still dear friends with, took a solo on a song, and the band director criticized him for not playing what was on the page.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, where was all this happening?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where was your school?

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was in Minnesota, fifth grade band, and then the high school band started in the seventh grade because we were such a small town that we had our drum section was five people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, my town was very small.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We had a small band, and the memories that it it gives is still lingers today, so it really helped my music and wanting to do music moving forward.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, sure.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And when I wasn't playing in the school band, I was sitting with my friends trying to learn how to play the Who's record, I can see for miles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I had a small little four-piece band other than the school myself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Real fun, great memories.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So after school, did you make the big move or where did you go from there?

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<v SPEAKER_01>No, I actually uh went right from high school to college down in Marshall, Minnesota at Southwest, and I was there for three years, and I was telling myself I was gonna major in theater, and the only reason being that I loved the stage and the lights.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Again, just drawn towards it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>After a couple of some a couple of quarters, it was a three-quarter a year program.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I asked the music department if I could go over there, and my teacher, True Sacrison, was a great cellist at the Curtis with Leonard Rose.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And she looked at my aunt, she said, You can you play the guitar?

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<v SPEAKER_01>I said, Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then she said, Well, okay, then you can play the cello.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So for the next two years, I was two and a half years, I was a cellist in the orchestra as well.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And that was still formal training, but it was also weekends with bands playing around the rural area, playing the ballrooms where you the band would come in and play country music, and then the last hour we played 50s for the really wild crowd.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Beer and setups, and they'd be dancing with a big gig was 25 bucks, 35 bucks.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The regular gigs were 25.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So we were mow we were mowing the money down.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's a great story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm sure it brings back fond memories to you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the cello is such a great instrument.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, it got me some work, and I ended up doing some things on the cello for other people, including David Sandler, who was one of Brian Wilson's proteges from The Beach Boys, and he hired me for some work on it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But the funny thing was that my opinion of the cello and the University of Minnesota's opinion of me on the cello were quite different.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And when I transferred to go to the U, they basically shamed me out of the audition with a very snobby kind of thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And so I had the bands anyway.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was playing in the bands full-time and going to school part-time, and all through the Minneapolis days.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, we we were I was doing better away from school, but I was always taking my courses because I knew I wanted to graduate.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So school ended for me in 1985 when I graduated from Arizona State with a cum law degree in uh in music.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So that's great.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You've made it through college, got your degree in music.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The next question, what was next?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, there were things already happening.

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<v SPEAKER_01>School was there to get school done, but in 84, I was in Phoenix by then.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We'd for five years had been riding high on the wave of urban cowboy playing clubs.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And in Minneapolis, same thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know, we were playing with one guy who had just finished playing with Bob Dylan on Blood on the Tracks, and then our drummer became the guy that joined Prince for the Revolution, and he was Bobby Z.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But in Arizona in 84, our well in 83, our band High Noon won the Wrangler Country Showdown, which is today called the Colgate, if it still exists.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Went to Nashville and I was all, I just I felt the energy here.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I just felt the electricity.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was living in Phoenix.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And in 84, I got a cut with George Strait on his Fort Worth album, and it got me the golden platinum you see behind me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The band was doing really well and playing clubs, and I was had graduated college, and pretty soon Glenn Campbell came along in 1987 and saw us opening a huge concert at the Coliseum with Merle Haggard and the Juds in Alabama and came backstage and the next night there he was again and he sat in with the band at a private event, and about two days later he called me and said, Guess what?

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're my new band leader.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's definitely a great story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So now Glenn was making his mark about that time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So what did it feel like when you went from what you were doing, and now you're a band leader for Glenn Campbell?

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<v SPEAKER_01>It blew my mind.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Especially my mother-in-law at the time.

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<v SPEAKER_01>She about dropped phone on the floor.

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<v SPEAKER_01>She couldn't believe it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Country lady from Virginia.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The band picked up a ton of additional credibility, and we were already opening concerts, as I mentioned, but we got a ton of stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, I opened for 20, 25 different acts in Phoenix at every major stage in town.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Then we went on the road with Glenn, and so the press started writing about us.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And there we were out there doing tours to England and Australia and New Zealand and playing all 50 states and having a monstrously good time with the great, one of the greats of the Hall of Fame.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, he's a Hall of Famer in the Hall of Fame, I think.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, there's no denying Glenn Campbell is one of the all-time greats.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There will never be another one like him.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Ever.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You totally, Tony.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Hey, Tony, the people listening can't see behind you, but is that Reba holding a trophy over there that I see?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, that's a picture that she gave me that she signed.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>She just signed it, or did you write one of her hits?

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<v SPEAKER_00>No, I wish.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've just known each other for years.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The one next to it is a personally signed Elvis photo.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then, of course, Cher, and beside that is course Debbie Campbell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I produce her, and that's the book she wrote about her life with Glenn.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, right.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that's right.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We have that connection, don't we?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, we do.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In 87, when Glenn came to see me, his daughter Debbie was with me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Nice.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Then right after that, she started not right away, but eventually that year, she got on the road with us, and she was there at most of the shows for the rest of my time with him, which was up until the end of 2002.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I often describe her as the female Glenn Campbell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Her vocals are soothing, mellow, and just a pleasure to listen to.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We learn from our bosses, but she has the what Glenn used to call genal harmony, the genes of the family.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, she is very good with her harmonies.

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<v SPEAKER_01>When we used to do, and I'm sure she's done it with you, Let It Be Me, that was magic.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And you know what's really fun is she was part of a show at Third and Lindsley, which is a club here in Nashville, and it was the uh Starz Kids show.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I forget what it was called, The Next Generation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I was there that night.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That was shortly after I had started producing her.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, great.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well then she, you know, she had me out there to do a couple songs with her, and it was so much fun.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I really like her.

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<v SPEAKER_00>She's just a great person to be around.

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<v SPEAKER_00>She speaks well of you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Nice to hear.

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<v SPEAKER_01>She took care of her dad and she picked up his dry cleaning.

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<v SPEAKER_01>She woke him up when it was time to get ready for stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Come on, dad.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Come on, dad.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know, the two of them were were really the you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can find pictures and videos on YouTube featuring both Glenn and her in interviews together, performing on stage together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I think she was with him for around 24 years on the road.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So it was a great relationship for sure.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The nice thing about that relationship too was that that was helping to fill in the void that was there in her life when her dad was living in LA and married again, not to her mom, and they were getting the Bel Air treatment and all the stars and stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And Debbie really didn't have that time with her dad, and the other kids are and Debbie are all close now, but she was able to build that rebuild, or actually maybe just plain build that relationship with her dad.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, it was really important to her, and I I think that's great.

00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:06.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I totally agree.

00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:09.440
<v SPEAKER_00>I think it's great she had that time with him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So now, what's next on the agenda with you?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh boy, if you got a minute?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sure, why not?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, here yeah, I've been on a couple of podcasts.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Um, one came up last spring, and I it was kind of in my mind like a teabag, you know, steeping in there, and I was thinking about it, and people hear me occasionally mention it.

00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:37.679
<v SPEAKER_01>And then I met with my friend Dave Sandler, who is the guy that worked with the Beach Boys at Pet Sounds and Smile in that area.

00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.039
<v SPEAKER_01>He's one of Brian's co-producers in Under Studies.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was at his house in Minneapolis.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We were sitting at the piano in his office, and I said, David, I'm gonna just record this.

00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:48.720
<v SPEAKER_01>I want to ask all these questions about Brian.

00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:53.279
<v SPEAKER_01>And when I got back here to Nashville, I had a recording, and I thought, okay, now I've done it.

00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:55.279
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm creating a podcast.

00:13:55.519 --> 00:14:00.879
<v SPEAKER_01>So I went online and I researched all the gear that you can get, and I was gonna get that, and I changed my mind.

00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:05.120
<v SPEAKER_01>But anyway, long story short, I have a podcast for November 2024.

00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:16.159
<v SPEAKER_01>I've got a long guest list of people, and then I have a dream list of people that are gonna come later once I'm up and running, because there are so many people every time you turn around, right, Tony, you think, Oh, I should get that guy on my podcast, I should get her on my podcast.

00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, it's called Count It Off, your fresh new window into the world of music.

00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.799
<v SPEAKER_01>It'll be appearing at all the places in Streamland.

00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.200
<v SPEAKER_01>And then besides that, I've got a new trio.

00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:30.799
<v SPEAKER_01>And I'm part of a group that's I call it GMC, which is Garfunkel, Manilo, and Campbell.

00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Art Garfunkel's guitar player, Tab Laven, who you may know, he's a Nashville guy.

00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.200
<v SPEAKER_01>He's been with Art for 23 years, I think, and he's in New York with him right now.

00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:41.279
<v SPEAKER_01>So he's still Art's guitar player.

00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Sings great, plays great guitar.

00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, he has to because he's the one backing up art.

00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:50.320
<v SPEAKER_01>And then Eddie Kilgallen, who has a connection with Barry Manilo and sings him like nobody's business.

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<v SPEAKER_01>All good, yeah.

00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:57.919
<v SPEAKER_01>He's he's a piano player, he's the band leader and road manager for uh Eddie Montgomery, and before that, Montgomery's gentry.

00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:04.559
<v SPEAKER_01>And then my Glenn Campbell connection, which I, you know, I have the Glenn, the salute to Glenn Campbell show that I've been doing for 10 or 12 years.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And we're gonna be out as GMC, and we've got our first date coming up uh in Minneapolis at the Dakota Jazz Club in February, and we're gonna be filling out the year with those dates, with our schedules permitting.

00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:16.960
<v SPEAKER_01>That's the other thing.

00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:17.759
<v SPEAKER_01>We got to juggle.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, that's great.

00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:20.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Great group of guys.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What's the music gonna be on it?

00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:23.919
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, the trio's gonna do the hits.

00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.559
<v SPEAKER_01>There's great musical quality in all of it.

00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:38.639
<v SPEAKER_01>When we get together and do the boxer and homeward bound and songs like that, sounds of silence and the harmonies, just like, oh, it's so much fun to have a vocal group instead of being an artist with your musicians.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, before we came on to talk, you mentioned that you did something with some autistic children, knowing that I have an autistic podcast.

00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.279
<v SPEAKER_00>So can you expand on that some?

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<v SPEAKER_01>True.

00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:51.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Uh, I have a program.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is another thing I do called Making Music Nashville Style.

00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:59.600
<v SPEAKER_01>It started with a visionary teacher who saw the way I interacted with kids in her school.

00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:01.679
<v SPEAKER_01>She retired after 25 years of teaching.

00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:07.519
<v SPEAKER_01>And she said, I should try, I think you'd be good at doing a residency showing the kids how to do music.

00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.320
<v SPEAKER_01>And so she sketched out a plan and went and got it funded.

00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:13.759
<v SPEAKER_01>And we started out in 20, I think 2011, maybe.

00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.080
<v SPEAKER_01>This is our 15th year coming up.

00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:22.639
<v SPEAKER_01>And I've just had a gas working with fifth graders, some fourth graders, some places, but mostly fifth graders.

00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:29.039
<v SPEAKER_01>And we do a residency of a week or two weeks or three weeks, depending on the school and how many kids I got to get around to.

00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.480
<v SPEAKER_01>We write songs together, and and the kids are usually bunched up.

00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:37.039
<v SPEAKER_01>It used to be democratic, and now it's more just by gender, the girls and the boys.

00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:50.559
<v SPEAKER_01>But what I've learned in those groups is that the kids that are what they call it now, special needs, learning disabled, ADD, LD, Autistic are the most creative, wonderful kids I've ever worked with.

00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:54.320
<v SPEAKER_01>The autistic ones, and I don't mean to single them out because everybody's brilliant.

00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:59.039
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, all these kids are just golden creations, have the most fascinating ideas.

00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:06.480
<v SPEAKER_01>I've got a song on my couple albums ago, and the album's called Tropical Troubadour, and there's a song on there called Chillo.

00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:13.279
<v SPEAKER_01>And the fifth graders caught me saying that word because I was stumbling over my words trying to say chill and mellow, and it came out chillo.

00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:15.039
<v SPEAKER_01>And they went, Hey, we like that word.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can we write that title?

00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:17.599
<v SPEAKER_01>And sat around and did it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The song came together like in two days in their classroom to get all together.

00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:28.319
<v SPEAKER_01>And the kids were very much in that special needs group, and I love the song.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's awesome.

00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:34.160
<v SPEAKER_00>The great thing about working with kids, they don't hold back, they tell you the truth.

00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:44.880
<v SPEAKER_00>They're just being who they are, and to tell you the truth, that innocence that they project is just everything that you hope to see from a kid just being a kid.

00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:46.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Isn't that true?

00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:57.440
<v SPEAKER_01>I think they're not caught up in being cool or getting somebody to notice them, or if they're hitting that age where, you know, boys want girls to notice boys who are noticing girls and that that whole thing.

00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.160
<v SPEAKER_01>They're just being, as you said, just being themselves.

00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:08.480
<v SPEAKER_01>There was one group where uh it was a mixed group, and the boys were writing a song called Two Months of Torture, and it was about summer school.

00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:14.319
<v SPEAKER_01>And again, I let them pick the titles, and I said, But kids, if you write, if you come up with a dumb title, we have to write a dumb song.

00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:15.039
<v SPEAKER_01>You know that.

00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.200
<v SPEAKER_01>Two months of torture.

00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:25.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Two months of torture, but we didn't, we were stuck.

00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:30.319
<v SPEAKER_01>One of the kids who was autistic, and I can't remember his name, but God bless him, and he he started getting agitated.

00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:31.279
<v SPEAKER_01>And I said, What's wrong?

00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.200
<v SPEAKER_01>He goes, When I'm in small groups, nobody ever picks my ideas.

00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:36.799
<v SPEAKER_01>I said, Well, what's your idea?

00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:40.319
<v SPEAKER_01>And he said, A hurricane of pain that'll last forever.

00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:41.920
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, there was our second line.

00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:46.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Two months a tow term, a hurricane of pain that'll last forever.

00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:47.759
<v SPEAKER_01>I was like, You got anything else?

00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.119
<v SPEAKER_01>He goes, The ultimate bummer that lasts all summer.

00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Spike the ball in the end zone for the win.

00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:59.759
<v SPEAKER_01>I'll just and he burst into a smile that it was a special, special moment.

00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:01.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And that was a hit song in the classroom.

00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:04.160
<v SPEAKER_00>And that means a lot.

00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:05.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Stop and think about it.

00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:13.279
<v SPEAKER_00>We as musicians try and write the best songs, try and get the best promoters, try and get the best recordings, try and get the biggest hits.

00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:16.880
<v SPEAKER_00>We try and keep it out there just all the time.

00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:30.160
<v SPEAKER_00>But something like you just did in the classroom with those kids, that kind of emotion, that kind of feeling can mean more than those gold records on the wall because you see the smiles on their faces.

00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:31.759
<v SPEAKER_01>It really is.

00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:33.359
<v SPEAKER_01>I released that song Chillo.

00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:39.599
<v SPEAKER_01>I haven't uh there's another one called I'll See You There about a classmate that passed away from cancer and was it cancer or no?

00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:40.319
<v SPEAKER_01>They had an accident.

00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.200
<v SPEAKER_01>I forget what, but the kids wrote a great memorial to their friend.

00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:43.759
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Nice.

00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:46.799
<v SPEAKER_00>That means a lot to a lot of people.

00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:54.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, since Glenn passed, you've done a lot of shows around the country paying tribute to his music too, correct?

00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:56.400
<v SPEAKER_01>I love doing that.

00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.880
<v SPEAKER_01>It I feel like a steward of the legend, you know?

00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:07.279
<v SPEAKER_01>When I first got some requests, Glenn was alive and I talked to him and I showed him that I was dedicating an album to him, and I then I went to management and I said, What do you think?

00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:17.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Because these people are asking, and they said, Jeff, of everybody that could do it, you're the one that ought to, because you fronted the band, you conducted the orchestra, you sang all the songs in soundcheck, we give you the two thumbs up.

00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.359
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's how it got started.

00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:25.279
<v SPEAKER_01>And uh Debbie and I have both dropped the idea that maybe she should come out and do a show with us.

00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:32.720
<v SPEAKER_01>And we've got one in February in Phoenix with a salute to Glenn Campbell, and I'm hoping that maybe um she'll drop in and do one with me.

00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:33.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I agree.

00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:34.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I think she should do it.

00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:36.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I think it would be really great.

00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:40.160
<v SPEAKER_00>I think she should because she sings his song so well.

00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:44.160
<v SPEAKER_00>And people remember her from the twenty-four years she spent with Glenn.

00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:49.839
<v SPEAKER_00>She's a big part of the Glenn Campbell family of fans on Facebook and all the other platforms.

00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:52.640
<v SPEAKER_00>So yeah, I think it'd be great for her to do it.

00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:55.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Definitely, absolutely should.

00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:59.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Um, her younger brother, Travis, who's the second in line, uh, oldest boy.

00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:06.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Travis came to Bartlesville, Oklahoma when I was playing there and came to the show and just sobbed, lost it on my shoulder, man.

00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:07.759
<v SPEAKER_01>It was so great.

00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:16.559
<v SPEAKER_01>You know, he just he loved and and he and I talk, we'd we tell stories and joke around about his dad, and and Travis didn't see a lot of that because Glenn was always gone.

00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:22.880
<v SPEAKER_01>In some ways, I was lucky enough to be with Glenn even more than he had, maybe, except when he was home.

00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:27.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, that's the sad part about the business that we're in.

00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:36.000
<v SPEAKER_00>If they're real successful, they're on the road all the time, they just don't get a chance to see their family like everyone else would that works nine to five.

00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:36.960
<v SPEAKER_00>That's why I'm here.

00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:45.519
<v SPEAKER_00>I worked with Gary Paxton and Bob Milsap, and Gary had so many hit records out there and was traveling so much, he didn't even know his twenty one year old son.

00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:49.039
<v SPEAKER_00>So I decided that I wasn't gonna have that issue.

00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:53.680
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's why I'm here in Nashville doing production, development, and management.

00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:59.519
<v SPEAKER_00>This way, you can see the kids grow up, grandkids grow up, and it just means.

00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.920
<v SPEAKER_00>More than being on the road.

00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:03.039
<v SPEAKER_01>That's beautiful.

00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.839
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, was he related to Kip Paxton or any of those guys?

00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:11.759
<v SPEAKER_00>No, he was the lead singer of the Argyles, Ally Oop, and all those hits, as well as producing The Monster Mash.

00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:12.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, sure.

00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:21.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, Bob, he produced a few country stars, but his big claim to fame that he loved was he published the song You Need Me that Ann Murray cut.

00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, yeah, and with our friend uh gosh, what was his name?

00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:28.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Um, from Nashville here, Randy Goodrum.

00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:29.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, that's right.

00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:35.599
<v SPEAKER_00>So those two were kind of my mentors that influenced me to move to Nashville to get off the road.

00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:36.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, that's great.

00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:37.599
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm glad you're here.

00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.519
<v SPEAKER_01>You've got records on the wall and signs, pictures of the stars.

00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I've been very fortunate, worked with a lot of great people.

00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:48.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm currently working with Donnie Most of Happy Days.

00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:49.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh gosh, that's great.

00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:53.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, he's got this huge voice, kind of like Frank Sinatra, Bobby Darren.

00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:55.039
<v SPEAKER_00>He does really well.

00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:56.079
<v SPEAKER_01>That's great.

00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:58.240
<v SPEAKER_01>I love the fact that we get these opportunities.

00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:02.720
<v SPEAKER_01>And living in Nashville, I always tell people on the shows that I do, this is it.

00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:03.920
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, this is the town.

00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:06.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Everybody loves coming here, whether they live here or not.

00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:11.839
<v SPEAKER_01>And if when they come here and spend a little time, I think half of them will really want to move here or get a second house if they can do that.

00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:18.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, you know, I'm sure you feel the same way too, but we do what we do because we love the music.

00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:23.200
<v SPEAKER_00>We don't go out there with chips on our shoulders and proclaim to be the biggest, the best in the world.

00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.880
<v SPEAKER_00>We just love what we do.

00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:32.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Because of that, we get to work with some of the best players and singers that you can find in the country.

00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:32.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:48.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Then when you get a chance to do interviews or podcasts or whatever you may do, you get a chance to look at your body of work and reflect a little, and then you can really appreciate all the hard work that went into doing what you do.

00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:49.839
<v SPEAKER_01>And I love that.

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:51.759
<v SPEAKER_01>I love the opportunity to work with the greats.

00:23:52.000 --> 00:24:04.640
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, my last, oh, I don't know, five or six albums, I've had an incredible cast of A-list session guys, and the last two I've had Lonnie Wilson and Mike Rojas, Scotty Sanders, Jimmy Carter, just uh tremendous people.

00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.839
<v SPEAKER_01>And oh, Brent Mason, this other kid, he's doing pretty well.

00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:10.160
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I say he's done fairly well.

00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.799
<v SPEAKER_00>My go-to guy on guitar has been around a while, Tom Wilde.

00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:15.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.880
<v SPEAKER_00>I use Dave Promroy on bass as much as I can.

00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:19.839
<v SPEAKER_01>Dave.

00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.720
<v SPEAKER_01>But he was with Don Williams when I first met him.

00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:24.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, he's been around for sure.

00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:26.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I've had him on just recently.

00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:27.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh great.

00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:32.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Did you ask him about that slide in No Stranger to the Rain, that big boom?

00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh yeah.

00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:34.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Such an iconic moment.

00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:36.799
<v SPEAKER_01>That's the one I was like, I gotta meet this Dave guy.

00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:37.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, yeah, it's great.

00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:46.720
<v SPEAKER_00>So when you sit back and look at the people that we've surrounded ourselves with, you can kind of reflect and just take a little pride in what you've done.

00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:48.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, you sure can.

00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I had just yesterday I interviewed Josh Diddy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He's a uh first engineer, meaning he's the head chief engineer, and he's worked with Joey Moy on his productions for years.

00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:03.759
<v SPEAKER_01>He's worked on Florida Georgia Line and Keith Urban and Pink and Morgan Wallen and Hardy and all the guys.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And he's right here in the neighborhood.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I live across the street from old Judy Rhodes, and Judy's husband was Leon Rhodes from Texas Troubadours.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Take it away, Leon, and he was a wonderful guy, and that's just the neighborhood.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, that's the great thing about living in Nashville.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You never know who's around the next corner.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, in closing, what would you like to leave the listeners with?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, be good to each other, y'all.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know, the world, no matter how you see it, the world's gone pretty crazy, and every day there's more news about something tragic and something ridiculous and something scary, and who knows what we've done to our planet, and who knows what we're doing to each other.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I hope we can, as Glenn would say, try a little kindness.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know, let the people in in traffic.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know, I have a little box of checkered flags, and I give them to people as they go racing by me and go, you win, you get the checkered flag, first place.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because it didn't cost me anything to do that, and kindness is free to give.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And if I can do that, I think I've done part of my gig.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I think that's great.

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<v SPEAKER_00>One last thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How do people find you?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Jeff DaytonMusic.com.

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<v SPEAKER_01>On most of it on YouTube, it's Jeff Dayton Music on Instagram, it's Jeff.dayton Instagram, Jeff.dayton Instagram.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Try to forget it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I bet you can't.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Podcast is on Count It Off Podcast on Facebook, and we will have news about that when it kicks off.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I'll look forward to inviting you on as a guest later on, Tony, once I get through my guest list that I've already lined up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I know how that is.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just let me know, I'll be there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, this has been great.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Great conversation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I really appreciate you taking the time to come on.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Appreciate again you have me on there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's great.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, it's my pleasure.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thanks again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thanks for joining us today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We hope you enjoyed the show.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This has been a Tony Mantor production.

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