Draft Winners and Losers

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we'd never use AI to write an apology statement. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here in the garage joined by one of the best draft analysts in the game. It's JP Acosta, and we are going to be hitting the winners and losers. Jp, I know you have been grinding all draft season, all Draft weekend.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Glad to have you, Thanks for having me. It has been It was a really interesting draft. I knew coming into there'd be some fireworks, but I did not expect this amount of just like everything everywhere. It's like that movie, everything everywhere, all at once. That's what it felt like for this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: And I opened the show referencing Jack's Albrook. If you don't know that story, we'll get to it in a second. But yeah, JP is one of the best in the game. He said he's already going to be looking at some twenty twenty six prospects once he takes his mind off things for a couple of weeks. But he goes really deep. So check out all this stuff at sp Nation. But let's just get into it. Today's going to be simple. I just want to do winners losers from the draft. It can be people, it can be positions, teams, whatever you want. And you know, we last left off on NFL Daily after Night two of the draft, wondering where should hear Sanders is going to go? So I'm just going to start there with some losers. I have way more winners than losers. That's how it should be on draft weekend. But I am going to start with the losers, and the losers isn't should hear? In this scenario, it's Andrew Berry, the Browns GM, who looked like disappointed when he made that fifth round pick, and people are throwing out some of the quotes that he made in terms of should Sanders not necessarily being a great fit for the Browns or hinting at that at after his Friday morning Friday night presser.

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Speaker 3: So Andrew Berry is in that mix.

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Speaker 1: Mel Kiper, I would say, is in that mix for just kind of losing his marbles and looking bad because his number five overall player didn't get drafted and losing his cools. Just calm down, mel Kiper. And then the Atlanta Falcons. I want to at least get to that. But let's talk about the football of it all because I feel like maybe Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett are losers here too, because it's just such a strange Cleveland Brown's quarterback room to review. It is Flacco, it is Kenny Pickett, it is Gabriel who's drafted on Wednesday night, and it's now should Sanders taken in the fifth round? What did you think when Should Sanders was taken by Cleveland?

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Speaker 2: In a way, I actually have one of my losers is Dylan Gabriel because imagine being the quarterback drafted before Shador Sanders on the same team, then going and checking the Cleveland Brown social media page and it's full of chedure standers. You probably got one post in there. It's very much like the SpongeBob meme where they hold Squidward out and everybody starts booing and throwing tomatoes, and then they hold SpongeBob out and anybody starts cheering. It feels like that, So I just for me when it comes to the whole thing, I actually I thought he was going to go early. I had him graded as a late first early second. Prospect of him falling out of the first round didn't surprise me that much. But then as you start to get into day two and then in the day three, and you start to hear more and more of what was being said about Shador, and when it comes to interviews, specifically after the Giants took Jackson Dart and what Brian dave Ball had said about like being a leader, when the helmet comes off, all the locker room stuff, it just everything felt kind of like, oh, so maybe he really did flunk these interviews. But the Browns in this situation, everything has been created to a point where this entire QB room, I don't think anybody really wins, Like Joe Flacco was right.

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Speaker 1: That's why I started off with losers because it sucks for Shador. But it does feel like everyone's kind of losing in this scenario. I don't know who the winners are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess I don't even know if you could say a win is anybody else on the team, because you don't know who's gonna be throwing you the ball. I mean, if you want to say Schador comes out as a winner in this somehow I can see that vision. Because you're a fifth round pick, you have nothing to lose at this point. If you if you're as good as everybody thinks you are and as you think you are, you should probably have that starting job by mid season. But it just feels like everything is set up for the Browns to fall completely flat on their face, and it just it just does. It feels like there's so many cameras on this situation that don't need to be on the Browns QB room for a whole lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: Right the graphic that they brought up on NFL Network where it said that the Browns current QB room and it was the four names I mentioned, plush, the Sean Watson's Like, I was like, save onto my phone just because like that's I feel like that's one that's gonna be useful in a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: That is just such an insane pick.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and it's why the Browns, I feel like, are an unfortunate spot for him, because they don't get the benefit of the doubt. And that's why when you see Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski not exactly looking thrilled. I mean, Andrew Berry kind of has that face. He has resting Andrew Berry face all the time. So I don't know if it's that he's just not fired up. But when you've heard that this ownership group has gotten involved in quarterback decisions before, and it's been reported out, it's hard not to think that that's what happened here again because he did it with Deshaun Watson and Jimmy Haslam, their owner basically when public almost as a Mia Kolpa, and took responsibility for the Watson signing. And maybe that's why Andrew Berry still has his job, and that's why Kevin Sefanski is still there is two Coaches of the year with these other awful seasons, if that's if you're looking for one bright spot for Shador Sanders. I did think going into the process that he could fit that system. And I do think Kevin Sepanski is a good quarterback coach, and I think Shouldar Sanders is more talented than Dylan Gabriel certainly, and that they're going to get Rick rid of Kenny Pickett or Joe Flacco. I don't know which one. Maybe it'll be Pickett. And you can't bring all those guys into camp, can you. Just it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, And so maybe long term they can figure it out there but it's the Browns, and so you just wish the Steelers had taken him. Frank at least that's what I was wishing going into Day three. I actually would put the Steelers. I was a little bit of a loser here. I know the idea that you wouldn't want the distraction of it all, and I know the quarterback room of Aaron Rodgers and Shoulder Sanders doesn't make that much sense. And I don't believe that Shouldar Sanders is some exceptional talent that warranted all this attention. It was what was you know, his last name and everything that comes with him and everything that he did to help change college football the last four years is why he got so much attention. That said, they need a quarterback, and I think you should be taking swings every single time. And they end up with Will Howard in the sixth round. But to me, Sanders, graded out as a better prospect, was worth taking a shot on just to see, even if it's for a year or two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just for the Browns. I also don't really understand the process of drafting Dylan Gabriel in the third round then drafting shadur in the fifth, because if the whole entire playing is for Dylan Gabriel to end up not on the team, then you just sunk a third round pick on a guy who won't make the fifty three man roster come to the regular season, and then if Shador doesn't make the team, you just brought a whole lot of scrutiny and a whole lot of lights on this QB room.

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett or Joe Flacco is not making this team. I gotta look at the guaranteed money. But they one of those guys is getting booted off the island and the two rookies are going to be on it.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would expect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would think it'd be Kenny Pickett because it was it would really suck for them to bring in like Joe Flacco again and be like, hey, Bud, you go ahead, sit down while we start Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders for the rest of the year and you end up off the team. But I think to your point about the Steelers, it's fun because I kind of had a winner as Aaron Rodgers because he's gonna end up getting what he wants. He wants to be on the Steelers. He also wants all the attention to be on him being on the Steelers. Shador Sanders is on that team. Aaron Rodgers does not want the attention on Shador Sanders and not himself. He wants to be He wants to be the guy, you know. So I think he's gonna end up winning this. I don't know if you want to call the Cold War against the Steelers. I don't know if you want to call it like a will way won't they because it feels like they will. It's just about Okay, we're gonna give the draft like a week to end, and then Aaron Rodgers to come on and be like, hey guys, I'm back, I'm signing with the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The plan to go back to what you said about the Browns and like, what was the plan? Why would you take deal and get Well, the plan was they like Dylan Gabriel better the coach and the GM and then the plan got blown up because I think Ownership got involved, and if he didn't, they just thought the value it was good enough. And when it comes to Rogers, look, the only person that's talked openly in this scenario is ownership, because he can Art Rooney and he expects Aaron Rodgers to be on the Steeler, so I do too, and you're right. Will Howard from Ohio State, who I was a little surprised actually fell to the sixth round. There was some buzz, and that's why you gotta be careful of the buzz. There was some buzz before the draft that there were some of the McVay teams liked him in apparently not too much because because he ends up going to the sixth round. The ultimate loser, though, and we'll move on from Shador is the Atlanta Falcons. In the most Atlanta Falcons thing of all time, jax Albrick, who is the son of their defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrick, was found to be the person who prank called Shouldar Sanders. The video is out there because you sitter is getting videotaped throughout the process for social media and for whatever else is going on with an Amazon crew that you could see in there.

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Speaker 3: And it's just such a move.

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Speaker 1: Like such an unfair, like mean thing that he was getting prank called, and sounds like he.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't the older only one.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren has reported to have taken a prank call as well. An unnamed other prospect who was drafted was prank called and told that he was traded afterwards. It's unclear if the others are from Jacks Olbrook, but the Atlanta Falcons released the statement and they said, the Atlanta Falcons do not condone this behavior. They send their secere I apologies to SHIRR. Sanders, and they've been in contact with the NFL and will continue to cooperate fully with any inquiries we may receive from the NFL League office. I mean, what an embarrassing story for everyone. I wouldn't be I would be surprised if the Falcons aren't punished for this. I don't know if they're going to lose a draft pick, they're certainly going to lose some money. What the statement said was that the number that Sanders was on was on a private email that only NFL employees had, and Jeff Ulbrick left it open and his son got a handle on it, and just a brutal dad moment if you're Jeff Olbrook, like his son is twenty one years old. In the apology that Jacks Olbrioks and out privately or through his social media like he misspelled Shader Sanders name and it looked like it was written by AI. If you literally put it in that there's a way to check or ask if something's been written by AI. It says one hundred percent it's been written by A Who knows if that's like true or not, but either way, it's just it just sucks. And it's also the most Atlanta Falcons thing ever, getting involved in something you have nothing to do with and bring in great shame on your organization.

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Speaker 3: Give me a break it.

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Speaker 2: I actually posted this on Blue Sky after the news that come out, and I was like, somehow every chaotic or batch insane story in NFL history has something to do with the Atlanta Falcons, right. I think they are the anchor being for the NFL. You have to have Atlanta Falcons insanity for anything to actually happen like it, It doesn't make any sense for anybody here. If you're Jeff Olbrich and I know you trust your son, obviously you gon leave the iPad on your work your work computer, your work technology unlocked around the house. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to think pretty low of your twenty one year old son to think he's got to be snooping on your iPad and prank calling kids, and he should think low of his son. And that's that's what I mean, low dad moment. I mean, look, there can be lower. This wasn't like a federal crime or anything, but it's incredibly embarrassing. It's going to be costly for the Falcons too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gonna be brutal, I think for everybody involved. Like you said, it just brings unwarranted attention again to an Atlanta Falcons team who already does not want a lot of attention on what they did in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Right, they are another one of the losers.

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Speaker 1: I do want to get to positive things, but that James Pierce trade giving up next year is first made no sense to me from Terry Fontaineau just acting desperate, needing to fix the defense this year because you're worried about losing your job. So yeah, throwing the Falcons as double losers here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it doesn't make sense, partially because they said they want the draft James Pierce at fifteen, which is like WHOA, Okay, all right, then sure, so you draft Jalen Walker, who is a better player, and then you feel the need to desperately go back up and get the guy by trading a future first. I don't think the Giants traded the future first to go get Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 3: No, they didn't. They traded a couple of thirds.

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Speaker 2: It just feels, like you said, it feels like the Falcons are making incredibly desperate moves to try and go like be legitimate this year, to try and save everybody's job.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a tough place to be.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think they're they're set up to be a competitive team, So I don't think that's gonna be a top five pick.

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Speaker 3: Or anything like that, but you never know.

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Speaker 1: And the Rams have something to root for this season, which is the Falcons to lose every game.

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Speaker 3: All right, me give me one of your winners.

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Speaker 2: One of my winners is actually the second year starting quarterback group. Let's James Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake May. I think each of the teams did a really good job of Okay, we have a guy. We know we have a guy. Let's go all in and try and see if we can get the most out of them. In Kayleb Williams case, you draft Colston Lovelin at ten, which my friend Corey Kennon had actually kind of done some work, is like this, Mack actually makes a lot of sense as a better fit over Tyler Warren because of what Colston Loveland brings as a receiver downfield. And I think that's something that the Bears kind of missed till they missed a lot in their offense last season, but that explosive element in their offense. And then going back and adding Luther Burden the third in the second round, which I think was a really good pickup for what Ben Johnson's offense wants to be, which is just doing all this work after the catch, all the explosive stuff in the short yardage game. I think that Luther Burden can do that a lot. But now it is on Caleb Williams to take that next step and use all these weapons, all these tools. You have a first round picking Romadonza, you have a first round picking Colson Love one high second Burden, heavily invested in DJ Moore. It feels like they are properly investing around him to try and get the most out of him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole offseason is about improving their offense. They're trying to score thirty plus points a game, just like the Detroit Lions did with Ben Johnson, partly because the defense is in much better shape in terms of their roster, not that they've totally ignored it this offseason.

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Speaker 3: But I love that.

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Speaker 1: I will always believe they were going to draft Trevon Henderson if the Patriots didn't right ahead of them.

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Speaker 3: But we'll never know that.

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Speaker 1: Were you a Burden guy, because to me, he was a tough evaluation, which I tended to be on the side of it's too risky for me. But now that you see that he's with Ben Johnson, you feel like, Okay, he's gonna have the vision and the plan for him. He probably wasn't for every team, but now I can see him having success.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious what you thought about Burden.

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Speaker 2: So if you count Travis Hunter as a wide receiver, Luther Burden was my wide receiver for behind McMillan, behind Mega Buka, and then behind Travis Hunter. I think if if you look at twenty twenty three Luther Burden, I think that that would make you think, oh, yeah, this guy is amazing inside outside explosive threat. Twenty twenty four. I feel like all of his best work came from out the slot, which is really what I'm worried about. If you're going to draft a guy early as a slot only guy, I'd wonder how effective he can be. But in the Browns off not the Browns in the Bears offense, where you have DJ Moore and Roma Doonza taking all the snaps outside, you can essentially become the designated jet sweep. You can do the designer stuff like the end around. You can do some of the stuff after the catch that they really were missing, which is what Luther Burden does best, that explosive ability after the catch, right.

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Speaker 1: I believe he'll be able to do that right away. I wasn't sure if he had the threshold of special enough as an explosive athlete. We will see to make up for how raw and maybe not complete he was as a receiver compared to some guys.

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Speaker 3: I see that you had.

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Speaker 1: Him above like Tet and heck I had Kyle Williams ahead of him. But now it's all about development. Jamis and Williams had some things. He was a little raw at too, and I think he eventually has developed more of his game, and so I kind of have confidence in that coaching st to have to help Luther Burden develop. I mean, he doesn't have a bad mentor in terms of play style with DJ Moore right on the roster.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome and it makes me more excited to watch the Bears. And yeah, you mentioned the Pats like just going heavy off, and they did what they had to do in terms of going offense, offense, offense off the top, and I talked about those pickups on Friday night shows, so I'm not going to repeat myself, but I do like the idea that I still think they didn't reach. They didn't have to reach for value. Will Campbell I wasn't in love with, but obviously some other people disagree with that, And I don't think they have to reach to get Trevion and Kyle Williams. So you have some explosive elements to the offense. And I kind of liked the it's off your Winter's topic. But I like some of their Day three pickups too on defense Joshua far or Braden Swinton, those are guys that to me were kind of home run tries for a Day three pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Patriots What they did really well when it comes to Drake May was they helped started adding compliments to their offense. Kyle Williams can create separation instantly. That is something that they did not have on the roster already outside of Stefan Diggs, who was older coming off tour in ACL. They have somebody who's a little younger who can create that separation to kind of compliment Jalen Polk's kind of power slot like Z receiver.

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Speaker 3: On the field.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm not sure he's in their top four receivers as of today.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 2: He's got to give us a field. But I think adding will Campbell is just it's a solid you know. I don't think it was fantastic. I think he was my top offensive lineman, but I also thought he was a guard, right. I think for the Patriots starting him at guard or not guard, starting him at tackle, I think it's just trying to get your best five out there. I think Leyden Robinson is viewed highly within the pats or organization as being their left guard of the future, so you're hoping that adding Campbell will help out a lot. Also, he said he's willing to like fight and die to protect Drake May and I just like, I'm like, Okay, I think this is going to be a home run pick. But I think Trayvon Henderson is. I think a lot of it was an identity based draft. We know what we want to be, we know what we want to do, and I think Trayvon Henderson is a great example of that. Because they're trying to be explosive when they get the ball in their hands. It's not exactly going to be all these super like downfield stuff. And I think Mike Rabel had an interview early after he got the job with the Patriots where he was talking about how effective it is to win with yards after the catch in the NFL right now, And I think with what they did in the draft, it makes a whole lot of sense that they went that way. Trayvon Henderson is going to be an offensive coordinator's best friend with the way that he blocks, the way that he can create explosives both as a runner and as a receiver. I think sometimes his vision kind of comes and goes, But in a gap S team offense where you can and get him downhill early, I think it's gonna look really cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they'll be fun to watch. And you mentioned the second year QBS. Right near the top of my winners this weekend was JJ McCarthy, so you know he didn't he didn't get on the field last year. But I think you look at their first round pick, it felt like Landon Jackson was kind of like the last best offensive lineman that they could have gotten. I don't think the board broke well for them in general. They probably would have liked to have more options at that pick, but it felt like Landon Jackson at guard shores up a spot and it just continues the offseason of improving their offensive line. And then they take Ty Felton from Maryland, the wide receiver who you mentioned yards after the catch late in third round, like big time speed. Gives them a chance to have a third slash fourth receiver that can make some yards after catch on some short throws while you have Addison and JJ going deep and hopefully develop into more. And then he's one of my winners too, McCarthy because of the trade for Sam Howell. They give up up basically a trade down to get same how which was about what I figured that the price would.

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Speaker 3: Be for him.

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Speaker 1: Just you know something that Seattle could get for him, and they did get something, And that's ideal if you're JJ McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers isn't coming in someone with that was more competition isn't coming in. You know, you have your veteran in the room that just can can help you out, but not Samehow who am I forgetting that that is also there? That is not competition? I'm forgetting about oh old Brett Rippon, who is kind of in that mold. I'm not even joking that, like they signed him because they're like, we like him in the room with our young guy, that he's that type of guy whether he makes a team or not. But for the offseason, it's Brett Rippan, So to me, it's just JJ's world.

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Speaker 3: It's JJ's team.

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Speaker 1: They spent the whole offseason kind of like the Patriots did and the Bears did, quietly just trying to make the world better for JJ McCarthy on the offensive line. And now I do like adding a receiver because it didn't seem like it's a huge need for them. But Jalen Naylor's in the last year of his contract. Long term, you can upgrade there. Jordan Addison, you know, is he gonnas get a second contract there? Who knows always want to be replenishing, And I just thought it was good for McCarthy. Give me another winner that you like.

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Speaker 2: Another winner that I liked is the Carolina Panthers, I think, top to bottom, they had one of my favorite drafts of this of the entire draft class, I think starting off with tter Ro McMillan at eight, I kind of had a feeling that it would go this way, where you get the big body receiver who can create separation in short to intermediate areas, which is where Bryce Young's like hot zone is as a passer. He's not a downfield guy. He is a I'm not gonna say singles and doubles, but he's more of a he's an efficient point guard of an offense. We want a guy who creates separation early. That is what ted Ro McMillan can do. I think he gets kind of typecasted for being six' four as being this big jump ball, guy and he can do, that but that's not his most effective. Area so adding him to kind of Compliment Xavier lyget who kinda he kind of does the we're gonna do The Christian watson thing where he's gonna run along THE x AND y axis where he only runs downfield fast or like across the field. Fast and Then Jalen. Cocher they just Signed Hunter renfro and at and they still Have Adam, thielen which kind of feels like they do the same thing in terms of short and under underneath. Stuff, man come.

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Speaker 3: On your are you of profiling? Here? Man Adam feeling's making planes down the.

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Speaker 1: Field he's he's winning contestant catches right. NOW i couldn't believe how Well Adam feeling played last. YEAR i hear what you're.

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Speaker 3: Saying.

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Speaker 1: UH i just was, like, Man Adam thieling was good last, Year So i'm just, saying don't diminish him by putting in With Hunter, renfro who was in his early last.

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Speaker 2: YEAR i will Say Adam thielen had a much better year THAN i thought he would at his. Age BUT i actually think they did a really good job on days two and. THREE i love WHAT i did was Adding Nick gorton training back up for, him and then going Adding princely Am On miellen because they're both very. COMPLIMENTARY i was a big fan Of Nick gorton entering the season added on a lot of really bad way to Play Texas Sam m's, defense which does that tight miant front where they have their, guy their defensive ends their edge prospects playing four eye at like two hundred and eighty five two hundred and ninety, pounds which is Why Sjamar stewart And Nick gordon both look a step. Slow but then you go On adam Mom, yellen who is a bit more of a, bendy a bit more of a pass. Rusher then so you have guys already in the roster Like Jadavion, clowney you have Dj, wanham you Have Pat, jones all of these. Thumpers you have these hammers to kind of stop the run. Early and you add S gorton and New Mam, yellen who can be sort of the past us compliments to. That but then on day three Adding Cam, jackson who is massive BUT i think is gonna be a help in the, run in the run, Defense Trevor etn is a really nice value on day. Three my favorite pick of theirs Is Mitchell evans on day, three WHO i think is gonna be a better pro than he is a college. Athlete he got hurt in twenty twenty, three he kind of Was Notre dame had a really weird passing passing offense this. Year BUT i think what they did in terms of maximizing their young quarterback while also hammering down on what they've wanted to be on, defense which is we want to load up to try and stop the. Run AND i think that's admirable and it's a good amount of knowledge of who you are and what you want to.

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Speaker 3: Be, well, yeah they were one of the worst run defenses of all.

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Speaker 1: Time it was like embarrassing to watch. Them they took big, swings Like, princely that's a big swing he could. Be i'm not gonna say it's boom or bust when it's a third round, pick but he has a chance to really, out you, know rank that that that draft. Slot and his conversation did you did you hear?

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Speaker 3: It by the way with no when they called, him oh, man it was, amazing he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he didn't sound that, excited and they so they asked him, why you, know why don't you sound that. EXCITED i think it Was David tepper who asked, him and he was just, like, why why did you take so.

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Speaker 3: Long why do you?

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Speaker 1: Know he was upset that didn't he didn't get, drafted and then a couple other people got on there like are you?

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Speaker 3: Excited you're, Excited and eventually he.

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Speaker 1: Got to the point where he Said i'm gonna come after y'all's pockets in.

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Speaker 3: Four, years AND i was, like, YES i love. THAT i love. That just like.

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Speaker 1: But a guy who who is a pure pass, RUSHER i like that shout. Out you, know while we're on day, Three i'm gonna do Kam scattaboo as a winner if you're gonna land in a spot where you're looking to get some, carries not to mention. Endorsements New York, Giants Baby Tyrone tracy was good last, year AND i Know singletary's still. THERE i was LIKE mjd coming into this. DRAFT i Thought skataboo could work at THE nfl. Level he had a ranked third among all running, backs which was a little next. Level he's obviously gonna have to figure things out in pass, pro BUT i actually do think his style will work at THE nfl level as like a, useful fun, Player and so you take them in the fourth. ROUND i think it's a nice. Spot for him to actually get some. WORK i think their offensive line is a little underrated And i'm looking forward to just Like New york eating him. Up so that was a good spot For.

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Speaker 2: Scataboo, YEAH i think it's, perfect especially with how he Complements Tyrone. Tracy Whereas tracy is a little bit more, explosive a little lectric outside the, Tackles Cam scadobo is going to be the guy who just basically does what he does At Arizona, state which is just grind people between the. TACKLES i think He my question for him is how many hits can he take at THE nfl level because he doesn't exactly Like he's not trying to be shifty around. Guys he's going to try and run people, over which is, incredible admirable but incredible.

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Speaker 1: Balance incredible balance and pretty good in the passing, game at least as a. Receiver he'll have to figure out the blocking part of.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i think he adds a lot of value as a receiver AND i think for what they needed in terms of just hammering guys between the, TACKLES i think it makes a lot of. Sense and like you, said It's New. YORK i think he's gonna fit. PERFECTLY i think everybody he's gonna love him there because he's just gonna run, really really hard behind that offensive. Line AND i Think Brian dabele is gonna include a lot MORE qb run, game which he has always, done but that run game has a chance to be pretty, fun AND i Think scotto's gonna be a really big part of.

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Speaker 3: That all, right, well.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick. Break we'll come back after with some more winners than leaders back ON Nfl Daily and, yeah we were Talking Cam skataboo before the. Break he was kind of part of a larger trend in the running. Backs they're. Winners tight ends are, winners like these forgotten. Positions so four running backs in the top thirty SEVEN jp and then twelve in the first four. Rounds scattaboo WHEN i had some good names by the way at running, back but everyone had their favorite. Flavors and then you look at the tight, ends five in the top fifty and Then Harold fan and junr went at the top of the third round. Two SO i think think teams just went where the good players were this, year and there just were more good players at running back and tight. End BUT i do think we're, back not all the way to where running backs, were but more to maybe like late oughts Where, okay it's like no one thought it was crazy That amari And hampton, went you, know early twenties and at four going the top thirty. Seven no one's like screaming, Reach like we've reached the nice balance where if you're a great football, player like you get. Rewarded so running, backs tight, ends we're, back, Baby.

00:29:28
Speaker 2: Yeah it feels a little bit like schematically THE nfl has kind Of i've always said football is. Cyclical the things that used to be popular will always come back and be popular again. Later AND i think where we're at now is because everybody's gotten so much smaller on, defense playing so much lighter boxes to defend all the outside zone That Kyle shanahan And sean McVeigh and every Other santahana McVeagh coach in the league wants to. Do teams got, lighter teams got. Smaller but now we're starting to see the punchback by the offense is just hit somebody really hard with a three hundred and twenty pound guard and gap. Scheme you saw the best offenses in THE nfl last year kind of majored in some of that. Gap the power. Counter The bills ran everybody over with, duo and SO i think having running backs who can kind of do that work between the. Tackles you saw What Quinn Shawn judkins going ahead Of Trayvon, henderson which IS i was a little surprised, about but it's because of the work between the, tackles AND i think that's something that's coming. Back AND i think that it also was a reflection of the strength of the. Class we said coming, in running backs and tight ends were a really big strength in this, class and it was reflected in how THE nfl viewed.

00:30:36
Speaker 1: Them, Right and you just need big, plays AND i think teams are recognizing you can get it from your running backs Like Hampton Trayvon. Henderson you're just sick of these nine to ten play. Drives you get guys like. That you get tight ends who can have yack, ability even Like fan And, junior but certainly Like Tyler warren And Colston, lovelin and those can be a, big big playmakers.

00:30:59
Speaker 3: Too like. THAT i haven't heard a loser from. You let's let's do. That give me a.

00:31:03
Speaker 2: LOSER i hate to say they're a full loser BECAUSE i kind of like what they, did but The saints quarterback situation shits a loser from me because nothing about this seems very hopeful before the, draft with The Derek carr thing with the shoulder feels kind of mysterious and kind of, like, oh that kind is a random drop to add a couple months before the. Draft, Okay Tyler shuck in round. TWO i came around To shuck late in the. PROCESS i kind of think he's more of just like a high value back, up maybe spot, starter because, again you're getting a guy who's gonna be twenty six when the season starts and has a litany of, injuries and then you Have Spencer, ratler who has something but also kind of. Weird so nothing about The saints quarterback situation is very inspiring for the first year of The Kellen moore, regime which also kind of makes me think that they're one of the teams along with The, browns that are kind of just, like all, right we're just gonna punt on the season at quarterback Because Doug nests.

00:32:11
Speaker 1: Took one fortieth, OVERALL, JP i hear, you but AND i actually think you're right that is maybe what they're thinking, partly but they got to get one For but that means they just drafted a bridge quarterback fortieth, overall it really. Is it really cracks me up, though that he is like prospect poor. Man he's like post Prime Derek carr as a prospect because he just doesn't do well under.

00:32:33
Speaker 3: Pressure you.

00:32:33
Speaker 1: Know the only Positive i'll say here is That Kellen moore got his. GUY i have seen no evidence Since Kellen moore has been in that building that he's involved with the. Team it just feels like the same organization in terms of how it's run as it happened Before Kellen moore got. There and it is because it's the Same fred. Office not only Has Mickey loomis been there, forever But Jeff ireland has been there. Forever he's probably the one making these, picks very key to. Them the front office in, general like everyone's been there since like early in The Payton Sean payton. Days AND i at least feel like they must have just Taken Kellen moore's. Guy and it does kind of make, it you, know sense to me that he like he Was this is the quarterback That Kellen moore. Wanted so at Least Kellen moore got his. Guy go make it. Work prove us, Wrong Kellen. Moore all, right while we're on, losers.

00:33:24
Speaker 3: What SHOULD i go?

00:33:25
Speaker 1: With how about me for writing ABOUT i do this every, year like before the, draft get really excited to do a whole show on. It put like a tweet out about all the possible veteran trades that are been out. There AND i even PUT i Put Jalen, Ramsey Kirk, cousins and JayR alexander into a category of likely to be. Traded, nope not a one of. Them the only one we got Was Sam. Howe it's never as fun as you. Think it's usually not this. DRY i think more trades could still Happen Mark, andrews for, instance The raven said, no he's gonna be with.

00:33:56
Speaker 3: Us they said, It Trey.

00:33:56
Speaker 1: Hendrickson there's no reason to think that's gonna happen at this point because of how the draft fell for The, jags although they did get one.

00:34:02
Speaker 3: Late who did they take? Late you'll know this.

00:34:05
Speaker 2: The Jack, oh they Took Bishel tuton and Leaquint.

00:34:08
Speaker 1: Allen, okay so maybe they still Could Jay travis. Et all we got to know was was How Dallas godder is still An. Eagle But i'm a loser and all of us content makers are losers for thinking that these trades are going to. Happen let's actually listen To Howie roseman after the draft asked About Dallas.

00:34:25
Speaker 3: Godder you, Know dallas is part of the.

00:34:28
Speaker 4: Team you, know as we, speak, obviously as we go, forward we're going to continue to address things on this, team and right now nothing. Further that was a heck of a, player heck of a, player heck of a. Person you, know certainly don't want to do anything publicly where we're discussing anyone's, business but have so much respect for. Him he'll been to Two Super bowls, together and you, know obviously would love love him on this. Team you, know you always love Having dallas on this. Team but we're we're not there right now on any of, that but Love dallas gotterr.

00:35:04
Speaker 1: Hmm the LONGER i listened to that, MORE i, thought FIRST i, thought, oh, well they still are got, Him maybe Trade dallas got. Her and then the longer he kept, TALKING i was, like they're trying to change his contract in some, way and he's not trying to put his business out there too much in, public but my guess would be there negotiating some sort of pay. Cut and there is a chance that some of these Players Jalen ramsey specifically JAY R alexander's as, well THAT i do think won't be on the team Starting week, one but they're still out.

00:35:36
Speaker 3: There it didn't happen during the.

00:35:37
Speaker 2: Draft, YEAH i was one of those people who Said Jalen ramsey was probably going to get traded during this. Draft my youngest brother is A dolphins, fan and so he kept asking me, like, hey what SHOULD i expect during the, draft AND i kept telling, him, Hey Jalen ramsey's probably not going to be on your team. Later so he was watching the draft just like sweating. Bullets then after the draft, ended he's, LIKE i Thought Jalen ramsey's gonna get, traded And i'm, like, yep hand, up that's my.

00:36:03
Speaker 1: BAD i, Mean Jalen ramsey thought he was gonna get traded, Too AND i don't, know we'll. SEE i do think it will, happen but maybe this is The dolphin slow playing it and saying, like, actually if we can't get anything for you this, year forget.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: It give me a.

00:36:18
Speaker 2: Winner one of my winners actually Is John schneider and The Seattle. Seahawks, OKAY i had said for the LONGEST i would Believe John schneider drafting an interior offensive lineman in the first round WHEN i saw it and then he went out and did, it AND i was, like, oh, OKAY i think What schneider did and What i'm Really i'm really liking about The seahawks drafting is they took a whole lot of swings on elite, athletes AND i think a guy Like Gray, zabel who can play guard or, CENTER i think he's probably going to play center in THE, nfl BUT i think his movement skills at that pivot point when you think about Like Clint kubiak and the outside zone offense makes a lot of. Sense and then you, know you, add Like Iman, worry you Add Jalen milroe into, that and you just feel like some of the stuff That Josh schnyder has said about this draft class and how excited he, gets specifically talking About Jalen milroe kind of made me want to put loser At Sam darnold somehow still in this because you go to a place thinking you're gonna be the long term, starter and then they go and draft the guy that the dude just lights up talking about. Him it's kind of. WEIRD i didn't put him as a loser for, like he's gonna make a lot of. Money BUT i Think snyder and The seahawks really went back to the well of just drafting elite athletes and it makes a lot of sense for.

00:37:39
Speaker 1: Them so the stat from our friends At Next gen is. Insane they took a league high four players with AN ngs athleticism score of eighty five or. Higher their first four picks had an average score in the first four picks Grays abel as you mentioned a freak em and worry extra Freak Elijah royo athletic the tight end For, miami and Then, milroe who's in ninety, nine had an average of ninety, one the highest by any team in the draft since two thousand and. Three so this is the most athletic draft class in two thousand and three for the first two. Days And i'm with, YOU i think they're excited about what they can do With milroe as a complimentary offensive weapon type piece as a Rookie, look If Sam darnold plays the way that he wants to, play like he did last, year he will end up being there long. Term but he knows he's there on a one year deal, essentially and he'll have to make it.

00:38:30
Speaker 3: Happen but, Yeah i'm with.

00:38:31
Speaker 1: You it's interesting to note by the way they did Announce ZABEL i believe as a, guard and they might Like Oloa tommy Ol timmy as their center for now in zabel at, guard kind of similar TO i think The patriots actually might Play Jared wilson you mentioned earlier at left guard for now In Garrett bradbury at. Center but they'll use them both and they'll figure out who the best five.

00:38:53
Speaker 3: Are all, right what's another? CLASS i?

00:38:55
Speaker 1: Like you, know we didn't really hit The eagles On thursday, night so you Take Hot.

00:39:00
Speaker 3: CAMPBELL i mentioned it, briefly but.

00:39:03
Speaker 1: One of my favorite players in the draft an injury concern they don't need to him to be on the field right. Away does remind me of The Nacobe dean pick in a way because of the injury concerns and you're waiting for. Him but to, me just a premier player in this. Class clearly the best off ball linebacker and landing in a perfect. Spot thinking of him And zac bond next to each other is. Awesome and Then day two you take a Safety, makouba WHO i really like a lot AND i think will be able to. PLAY i don't know if you had any thoughts on their draft as a, whole not just the first two. Picks you, know you know The day three And day two guys better than, me, Certainly BUT i love those first two picks and just felt like a nice combination of thinking about the future but also guys THAT i think could help you try to win A Super bowl this.

00:39:47
Speaker 2: Year one of my favorite picks of their is one of the ones that made me kind of really like perk my ears up a little. Bit On day three Was Cam williams From, texas who was mocked as high as the second round early in The he's in he's really, young twenty years. Old he had a horrendous showing in the. PLAYOFF i think everybody Remembers Cam williams For Jack sawyer beating him around the edge for the stripsack in The College Football. Playoff BUT i think The eagles On day three kind of leaned into The Jeff stoutland vic fangio like force, multiplier and especially For Cam, williams who is a monstrous, athlete, long, big, tall like a first off the bus guy with great. Movement you think about adding him To jeff stoutlind and giving him the chance to let him work with him for a few. Years this is the so oh The eagles got this guy on day three ends up being a high quality starter because he gets Around Jeff stoutlin and that nucleus they, Have So i'm really excited for. That BUT i like their draft. OVERALL i think they took some, swings but they're worthwhile swings because you have the nucleus already in terms of player, development.

00:40:55
Speaker 1: Right And kyle And kord by the, way they took the quarterback out Of. Syracuse they always say they want to be a quarterback. Factory there were some buzz that they were going to take Should Or sanders in the fifth, round which ACTUALLY i think would have been a perfect situation for him and would have made sense for them, too maybe as the medium term, backup and if he ends up being trade bait, like all the. Better but they end up Taking kyle McCord because The browns traded up and took shoulder and, yeah you Mentioned Cam. Williams they took a couple of tackles in round. Six Also Miles hinton Of, michigan AND i can just picture like one of those guys playing in some playoff game four years from now and we're, like.

00:41:31
Speaker 3: Oh The eagles did it.

00:41:32
Speaker 1: Again all, right give me whatever you, want a winner or, loser whatever you want to talk.

00:41:36
Speaker 2: About so one of my winners is self. Scouting just in, GENERAL i think a lot of teams looked at where they went wrong in last season and kind of flipped it completely on their, head and a few teams really stood out for me with. That The San francisco forty nine ers had one of their worst seasons in run defense That i've ever seen from their, defenses and, decided, okay we're just going to go out and Add Mikel, williams who was one, of if not the best run defending edge in this. Class you gotta Add Alpha collins From texas On day. Two one of my Favorite day two picks because again it is understanding what you were wrong wrong, with and that is defending the run up the. Middle Alpha collins is not going To he's not there to rush the, Passer he's there to stop the. RUN i think ADDING. Cj west later on really nice pick for them in terms of again stopping the. Run they knew where they were going.

00:42:27
Speaker 3: In to tackle right and like a high upside. Player, YEAH.

00:42:31
Speaker 2: Cj west he. Was he was the middle Of indiana's, undersize tight front defense and they still were one of the best teams against the run the, country and that's partially because OF. Cj. WEST i thought they did a really good job of understanding their faults and then just going full force at. It in this draft, CLASS i think The dolphins also did a good job of. That one of the big things about The. Dolphins my biggest complaints about The dolphins is that they were the, cold, Rainy knight And stoke team where if it was in short DO i expect you to get the first? Down or can you stop teams from getting first? Downs they. Couldn't AND i think Adding Kenneth, grant again you want to stop the, RUN i wonder if they can kind of get the most out of him when it comes to pad level and. Consistency so if he can get that out of, HIM i think that's gonna really help open up lanes for Like Zach. SILER i Think Chop robinson's gonna have a much better. Year and then you go out on day two you add a guy In Jonas sevanaia at, guard who again is just going to add more physicality to the. Offense that has been my biggest complaint about The dolphins offense is that they weren't. Physical AND i think Adding sevanaiah and then on day three Adding Jordan phillips And Zeke, viggers who are both also just monstrous run, DEFENDERS i think they knew going in they wanted to completely flip their mantra of, oh The dolphins can't win in the, cold The dolphins can't win the, playoffs and in the playoffs you need to be. Physical SO i think they added that physicality a.

00:43:56
Speaker 1: Lot right and a tight end In Gunner, helm who probably this class was the best BLOCKER i guess at least at least had that. Reputation and not only did you trade up for Savon, aa you sniped The. Patriots by all, accounts they jumped right in front of. Him Elliott, woolf The PATRIOTS, gm without being called THE, gm said that it was a good exercise because they had their first real argument in the draft room WHERE i think there were two sides of who they wanted to take with The Trevon henderson pick and the BEST i can, guess and then he said someone the guy that we were debating about ended up getting, taken and based on a couple of the local, reportings it sounds like they were debating Between henderson And sea and The dolphins made that choice for. Them so always a nice little bonus when when the team in your division gets. SNIPED i was with. YOU i love that you pointed those two out because they were both on my winners. LIST i really Liked grant and they needed that and you expected him to be there at. Thirteen BUT i thought that was fine value at that. POINT i think it was like pick your. FAVORITE i think he fit right. In and then, Yeah Robert, sala he comes back To San francisco as the defensive. Coordinator their first five defensive players WERE i, mean first five picks were defensive, players so that's Given Robert sala some. Love there was also a linebacker in, there and that was in the first one hundred and thirteen picks, too so they weren't like through round five or, six you know you got five good. Players two third round Picks Nick, martin a linebacker From Oklahoma, state And Upton stout From Western kentucky as a third round Comp so a lot of defensive players going to the forty nine.

00:45:32
Speaker 3: Ers by the, way while.

00:45:33
Speaker 1: We're on the forty, nineties a couple of weird injury items popped up during the. Draft we learned That Malik, mustafa really promising young safety for, them WHO i expected to start tore acl In week eighteen last. Year the news didn't come out until this, weekend so that's bad news For sala and then forty nine ers. Adjacent it came out On sunday, afternoon according To jennifer Lee chan AT nbc in The Bay, area That drake Green law Then er tore his quadriceps while working out this. Offseason he's now with The Denver broncos and was expected to be a big part of their defensive just dominance That i'm, expecting and it sounds like he's gonna be out for a. While we're not sure about the, timeline but that does not sound. GOOD i will throw out another winner's let's Go Tyler booker to, me he was just a. Winner just for his interview with a friend of the, Show Adam lefko and, friends Including Michael, parsons On Bleacher report the night of the. Draft let's listen To Tyler, booker the guard taken by The cowboys in the first.

00:46:38
Speaker 5: Round you had one of my favorite quotes of the entire draft. Process you, said, QUOTE i make guys not love football. Anymore what does it feel like to see the love of football leave someone's?

00:46:50
Speaker 6: Eyes it feels, great you, know like to like football is a child is a child's. Game so like people wake up being, like, MAN i can't wait to play this football game. Too they just did their hype, music they took all the pre. Workout they get so excited to play football until they come Across Tyler. Booker and then When i'm going after the quarter after, quarter player after, play series after, series AND i started to see that love leave their, Eyes like that's what makes me love the.

00:47:14
Speaker 2: Game LIKE i just really.

00:47:28
Speaker 4: Right now got quarter.

00:47:36
Speaker 1: Quarter that Is Michael parsons that you heard on the back end of that getting hyped.

00:47:44
Speaker 3: Up that made me like The booker.

00:47:45
Speaker 1: Pick it was kind of LIKE i didn't like The Will campbell that picked that much until he said he was going to die for For Drake may and That Tyler booker picked just Seeing Michael parsons get fired.

00:47:54
Speaker 3: UP i do see the.

00:47:55
Speaker 1: VISION i don't love that they didn't get any wide, receiver BUT i do like all the players that The cowboys. Took booker was. EARLY i don't know if you had a thought on the on The booker pick or The cowboys. Draft it is crazy how they do not have a second option Behind. Seeland i'm kind of shocked they did not come out of this draft with. One maybe they'll get into the wide receiver mix in terms of a veteran trade something like. That but Man booker fired me up, Too so.

00:48:20
Speaker 2: INITIALLY i wasn't on board with The booker pick as. MUCH i thought they probably were trying to trade. Back but it takes two to, tango AND i think The booker. Might booker is really, good but he's also scheme. Specific he is a gap he's a gap scheme. Guard you see him knocking guys, over he is, pulling or he's double teaming on power on. Counter but then as you continue to look at where The cowboys went in this draft and who who else they hired as are off the coordinator from The Arizona cardinals where they ran a lot of gap. Scheme it feels like The cowboys are trying to undergo their own identity shift where they don't draft. Receiver, fine they're just gonna run the heck out of the. Football they're Gonna they're gonna try to run the heck out of the. Football AND i think that interior trio Of Tyler, Smith Cooper, bebee And Tyler booker might really like mash some guys in.

00:49:14
Speaker 3: Who they running who they running.

00:49:16
Speaker 1: With they Took Jayden blue in the fifth, round they Got Javonte, williams they Got Miles. Sanders maybe they're A TRAVIS ctn. TEAM i don't, know, MAN i.

00:49:24
Speaker 2: Think they're A TRAVIS etn. Team BUT i also, like very quietly kind of like The Jaden blue pick in the fifth. ROUND i think his speed is going to be a big factor in that offense because they don't really have that speed outside of guys Like Ceedee lamb on the, team and he's gonna be a factor in the run and passing. Game but what their draft kind of signaled to me is That we're not trying to get pushed over. Anymore we're not trying to get pushed. Around AND i, think, AGAIN i hate to kind of reduce it to one team or one, opponent but The eagles pushing people around and route to a Super, bowl for. Sure The cowboys could even get back to THE Nfc championship. Game probably left a really big like they probably Stung Jerry jones a, lot and then the retirement Of Zach martin on top of, that it felt like they wanted to try and get back to what they, want What Jerry jones wants them to, be which is just running the ball really. EFFECTIVELY i do think they still need to add like a between the tackles. Guy i'm not the biggest fan Of Javonte, williams BUT i think THEY i think their identity is coming into. Play BUT i also really love The Donovan Azeroka Savon revel picks On day.

00:50:37
Speaker 3: Two, YEAH i like those two and they needed help. Everywhere But.

00:50:42
Speaker 1: I'll just be tracking Like Matthew golden The Tyler, book BECAUSE i hear.

00:50:48
Speaker 2: You, yeah we're in twenty two, now so does that play a? Factor, NO i think for that twenty two as a receiver is kind of it's kind.

00:50:59
Speaker 3: Of, bad kind of.

00:51:00
Speaker 1: Gross let's take a quick. Break we'll come back after with some more winners and. Losers let's go speed round it. Up, now let's get let's just get a few more you want you want, to you can go, first winner or, loser whatever you.

00:51:22
Speaker 3: Want it'll go. Quickly get get our last takes in before we say.

00:51:25
Speaker 2: Goody one of my winners Is Baron. Serel got drafted on day three by The Green Bay, packers but he actually was in the green, room which kind of stunned me because he wasn't on the list to be in the green. Room but then he, like he's there and he just gets this incredible moment with the packers and their. Fans he's jumping into the, crowd he's hyping the crowd. Up they can't even go to the next person who announces the pick Because Baron serel is out there like basically. Crowdsurfing AND i just thought that was a really cool moment for. Him and he's one of the GUYS i saw at The Senior bowl who kind of kind of stood out a little. Bit BUT i think he gets that he got a really cool moment, there so he's a. Winner that he's a.

00:52:05
Speaker 1: Winner The cardinals are winner is Just Walter nolan Will, johnson that kind of talent adding to the defensive And sean McDermott's a. Winner he did the thing like they did In San, francisco where was just all. Defense first five picks on, defense you, Know Maxwell, HARRISON. Tj Sanders Landon jackson was one of my favorite third round. Picks he's a edge From Ohio, state but just trying to improve. That sean McDermott. DEFENSE i like The chiefs first two picks to get a home run possible top tackle in the class In Josh simmons if he can get. Healthy and Then Omar norman lot is an interesting second round defensive tackle In Jalen.

00:52:39
Speaker 3: Royals much later at wide. RECEIVER i like what The chiefs.

00:52:42
Speaker 2: Did, YEAH i actually think The chiefs pick Of Ashton jalatti in the third round feels very spags. Ish he's a little got shorter, arms but he's very similar to like a guy Like George carloftis who has heavy, hands high, motor wins with. Power and Then Noel williams also in round, three feels very like a spag this. Corner SO i like that they replenished their depth with guys that really can affect the can affect the. Game push the pocket.

00:53:09
Speaker 3: Right The colts qb room is kind of a.

00:53:12
Speaker 1: Winner Nate tice is a winner That Riley leonard landed With Shane stykens To Ryley leonards The Notre dame, quarterback they're the Op you know how The browns quarterback room is just such different flavors everywhere it doesn't really make. Sense and The seahawks quarterback room is like that too now with Like No roe and Darn no The colts all their quarterbacks are the. Same So Riley, leonard if someone's got to get something out of, him it's gonna be the same Guy Shane styken that's working With Anthony richardson And daniel.

00:53:37
Speaker 3: Does he's kind of a melding of those. Two so that one's kind of.

00:53:41
Speaker 2: Fun, YEAH i actually posted to social media The Daniel jones variants will continue until morale. Improves when The colts Picked Ryley leonard because he if you fuse like the recklessness Of Anthony richardson with the body Of Daniel, jones you Get Riley leonard because he's gonna do some really crazy and stupid, stuff like he's gonna try and hurdle a guy end up flipping. OVER i THINK i, said like in my scouting report of, him it's he plays too much like he's on, jackass or he's gonna end up like flipping over a, guy gonna he's gonna break his. BODY i think the first drive of The National championship game Against Ohio, state he had to come off the field because he was vomiting after he scored the. Touchdown And i'm just, like, yep that is that is A colts quarterback right.

00:54:29
Speaker 1: There there's something in. THERE i think The colts are going to be, entertaining if not. GREAT i KNOW i said we were doing speed. Round BUT i will wrap up the show talking to and maybe one of the most Noteworthy jaguars fans in the entire. Country let's let's wrap it up an obvious winner here is The. Jaguars i'll say it for, you just the fact not only that you added two lane Great Caleb ran saw my guy at cornerback in round, three but, yes you Get Travis hunter and you just changed the entire franchise that. Way let's actually listen To James, gladstone their NEW gm FORMER Nfl daily, guest talk a little bit About hunter at his introductory press.

00:55:10
Speaker 3: Conference, tunnter he embodies belief.

00:55:15
Speaker 7: Right he's a rare, person he's a rare, player but he's also a reminder that the boundaries of the game of football were built to be. Challenged so the decision to select him was actually a, statement a statement for how we plan to move who we, are and we want him to be nothing more than him because when he, is he elevates the space around.

00:55:44
Speaker 2: Him let's.

00:55:45
Speaker 3: GO i, mean he's changing the boundaries of.

00:55:48
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i feel Like Michael parsons watching. That Tyler booker, REE i feel Like Michael parson's right. Now that is. INCREDIBLE i Think James gladstone is also one of my, winners just because going into the draftverybody was saying The jags wanted to do something. Bold The jags wanted to be. Bold coming into the. Draft they had said we wanted to. Elevate we wanted to raise the floor of our offense and of our team in general with free agency and then raise the ceiling through the. Draft there's no better ceiling raizer Than Travis, hunter and the fact that they actually went out and did it and were and weren't afraid to go and be bold and do that kind of signals a shift For jaguars And jaguars fans because it actually it actually feels like belief in a. PROCESS i think With Trent, balky it felt like there was just kind of throwing picks at a, board Like, okay we'll do, this then, This now there's no. PROCESS i think With James Gladstone Liam, cohen you can see the process and why every pick has been. Made and then just adding a guy Like Travis hunter who can be the face of the. Franchise and the way That James gladstone looked At Travis hunter there was.

00:56:59
Speaker 3: CRAZY i was wondering what Was hunter?

00:57:01
Speaker 1: Thinking WHILE i couldn't tell you BECAUSE i looked At, HUNTER i couldn't tell if he was just kind of glazing Over he's like what is this guy talking? About or what he was thinking When gladstone was glazing him up like.

00:57:11
Speaker 3: That BUT i loved.

00:57:12
Speaker 2: IT i love. It it's. Incredible i'm so excited for this regime AND i know that it might not work because it is The. JAGUARS i am well aware of, that but the fact that they went out and this entire offseason has been about them being. Bold they had to go and actually Fire Trent, balky and then they went out and and Took Liam cohing. Back you go out and be bold and add a thirty four year OLD gm who has now become like one of the major talking points of THE. Nfl you go out and you be bold and get a guy Like Travis. Hunter it just feels so, different but a good. Different So i'm very. EXCITED i know that it's probably not going it might not work, out BUT i think the fun in it is seeing if it.

00:57:56
Speaker 1: Does hunter is gonna work. OUT i JUST i just believe it was all my heart AND i don't buy the this trade made sense for both. Sides part of The browns like it was good process for The, browns but it was worth taking a chance for The. Jaguars, no at some point you got to evaluate the. Players AND i could be, wrong And James gladskyne could be, wrong but at some point you Gotta that's what they, do is, evaluate and you Gotta, clearly The browns didn't Believe travis under was as special a player AS i, did BUT i think he's going to be one of the most special players certainly that ever puts on A jaguars uniform or that would put on A browns. Uniform and if he is that, guy then you Mess then you messed.

00:58:37
Speaker 2: Up, Yeah Andrew barry was calling him show Heyo tani entering this, draft.

00:58:43
Speaker 3: Although he knew it's funny the think.

00:58:45
Speaker 1: Back according to the, reporting at that, point he already knew he had traded, him so he was JUST i don't know what he was, doing trying to get a better.

00:58:52
Speaker 2: Offer, yeah it's crazy to compare somebody to Show Heyo tony and then pass up on the chance to take the Show Heyo, tommy, right? Right and what other sport do you do? That you certainly don't do that in, Baseball BUT i think The, BROWNS i kind of it sucks to have the rug pulled out from under you Expecting Travis hunter and anyhow With Mason, graham who was still a very good, prospect but then ending up using the picks you got For Travis hunter With Dylan, sampson who was kind of similar in a smaller package To Quinn Shawn judkins and both being gap scheme only players with not that great a vision and then drafting two quarterbacks after so you doubled up by drafting two running backs and two quarterbacks in this draft when you still have holes almost everywhere on the offensive.

00:59:40
Speaker 3: Line AND i do Like Dylan samson THOUGH i do Like Dylan. SAMSON i WILL i will defend.

00:59:44
Speaker 2: IT i get Why, sampson which kind of is, like why did you Pick judkins? There, then so, again it's just it's fine getting the, picks but it's about what you do after you get. Them and that's WHERE i feel like The browns process was just like what are we doing?

01:00:01
Speaker 4: Here?

01:00:02
Speaker 1: Right and for The, jags it's just it's cool for them to be a closer to being a premier team in terms of. INTEREST i think that's. Fun they've just been a little too forgettable, lately AND i talked about it a lot this. OFFSEASON i actually thought their roster was. Decent it didn't have as many huge holes in it as a team you would expect with that record. Had what it didn't have was exciting players top ten at their position. Players it just had a whole roster full of, okay pretty. Good so what do you add one of the most exciting prospects that you could ever want to. See and by the, way you get to take the shine away from the team in your, division your rival that had the number one overall DRAFTIC i like The titans, draft by the, WAY i Like Eric, aluminar the wide. RECEIVER i liked at Least Ali, connelly who were big fans of on the, show has been a guest the number of times huge fans Of winston that the safety that they. Got SO i think The titans and they got the best quarterback in the draft by. Far SO i think The titans had a nice, draft but Ultimately Travis hunter is enough for The jaguars to be even. Nicer great having you ON, JP i want you to take a little bit of a breather before you start diving into that twenty twenty, sixty BUT i want to get ahead of it this year and have you on earlier and start talking about those.

01:01:19
Speaker 2: Guys, Absolutely i'll be taking a little bit of a. Break i'll take it like a week week and a. Half my sister's graduating from this, weekend So i'm gonna go up and visit, her and then we'll start diving into twenty twenty six a little LATER i.

01:01:32
Speaker 1: Know and we'll be diving into LIKE i had more winners and. TAKES i love what you, Did raiders and bucks and all that. Stuff but you know, what we're actually going to cover all thirty two teams this. Week so if we didn't hit you, today we are coming back later in the week going over the drafts for each and every. Team we'll give everyone an equal amount of. Time we'll Have jordan rodrieg And Patrick clayban eating with me to do. That we'll also Have Daniel, jeremiah the final forties and free agents that will be in your feed on Two. Tuesday so thanks TO Jp acosta OF Sb. Nation, yes when we're starting to fill out those post draft depth, charts you know football is. Back we'll see It tuesday