It’s REIGNING, Jen! RHOSLC Recap

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Speaker 1: Rain drops.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode Reality with the King, She's prey.

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Speaker 3: Oh bitch, we gotta hurry and get through this because I have a flight right after this. I'm leaving the damn country. Honey, I'm out. Stru sure, I'm out. I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Jen Shaw has been released from prison after serving a two year and some months sentence. Jen Shaw is here, but I see you. So are you getting your passport? Are you leaving the country? Are you scared, nervous, excited? What's the feeling?

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Speaker 3: I let me tell you, I have all these mixed emotions because after dealing with certain people on this cast, and especially after watching this season, I'm like, girl, Jen's gonna come back and fix some shit because people are out here well now and she needs to, like humble a bitch. But now that I know allegedly right, she's not coming back to the show. Per Andy Cohen, you know it's bitter. It's bitter over here. It's a little like, oh man, look, if I'm going to keep it completely real. I'm happy for her, boys, I really am. Like, at the end of the day, we're all mothers, and I can't even imagine how her children feel, especially right before Christmas, and to not acknowledge that would be completely heartless and unrealistic. Like, obviously, we want children to have their moms and their dads, And I do feel happy for her that she's able to spread Christmas with her children. That is just literally what life is all about, period. But yeah, like I said, it's it's bittersweet. It's kind of like, I'm happy for her children, but I'm also hoping that she's changed and we're not going to get this crazy vindictive behavior with retaliation against certain people, and that she can truly just move on, Like I hope that she really did maybe change and heal and that we can just I don't think that's gonna happen, bitch, I don't even know what.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe I am saying these.

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Speaker 3: Words, and I don't even believe them coming out of my mouth.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe.

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Speaker 2: Wow, No, listen, I'll say that.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that. I'll say this. Excuse me, Yes, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think for the sake of her family, it's amazing that she's able to spend the holidays with her boys.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of your victims will not be able to do.

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Speaker 2: That, and that's you have no argument for me when it comes to that. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. It's one of those things where you know, when it comes to some of the Brava audience.

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Speaker 1: I've said this before, a lot of them pick and choose.

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Speaker 2: Which crime they feel their favorite reality star or housewife is able to sort of get away with.

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Speaker 1: Right. So again I've said this since day one. I'm not here to call judgment on anybody.

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Speaker 2: Similarly to Cam Huger, where I said, look, she did her time, she was found guilty, she spent the time she had to courtesy of the law.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna judge. That's what they did. So the same Rual Places, Immunity Council. Jen I'm not here to say yay or day. I'm here to say, look, she followed the the the position and the opportunity that was presented to her. But she played guilty, and she served her time, and she served two years in nine months. That's that. That was the court of law. But you are why we cannot forget about the victims. No, yes, we have to notice them for sure. So it'll be interesting to see where her mind set is at in this situation, I agree with you. I'm hoping that vengeance is not hers, it's the lords, do you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean? And look, I'll say this much.

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Speaker 2: I watched season one of Salt Lake City, and I was immediately drawn to her comedy, you know, like I was drawn to her being funny and being being wacky in the grand sense of the word, right.

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Speaker 1: I was never drawn to any vindictiveiness.

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Speaker 2: So I will say, as somebody who watched the show, season one sold it because I was fascinated with her big personality.

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Speaker 1: I was fascinating because she was funny.

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Speaker 2: And my hope is that serving two years and nine months humbled her in a way that when she gets back on television, whether it's through Salt Lake City or another program, that.

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Speaker 1: She obviously has a lot to answer too when it comes to what she did.

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Speaker 2: And with that being said, you know, I just want to see fun I'm I don't want to see revent vindictiveness. I like a nice read, you know me, love that, but I don't want to see anything that's dark.

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Speaker 3: No, And I totally agree, And I definitely don't think we've seen the last of her, you know, like, Okay, maybe she doesn't come back to Salt Lake. Maybe she does, who the hell knows with that, But I don't think we've seen the last with her. I think, you know, if Anna Delvey can go on Dancing with the Stars with the ankle monitor, honey, I mean, who knows, what is possible. I think we could see her on Netflix. I think we could. Who knows, really, who knows, But yeah, I do. I hope that she's changed. I hope she's able to just like pivot, put the ship behind her and move forward, because I know that's ultimately what people want to see. I will tell you my dms have been wild, everyone sending me everything, and I did see something just so the rain drops, you know.

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Speaker 2: Know.

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Speaker 3: Apparently she will be either released to a halfway house or her own home confinement, so you know, it'll be interesting to see what happened. I mean, honestly, people want to see it. At the end of the day. You can't blame them because she was such a big focal point truly, and her story play it out online, so it'll it'll be crazy to see where it goes. But happy for her.

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Speaker 2: Kids, yes, yes, yes, yes, And to piggyback off of what Monica just said, according.

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Speaker 1: To the BOP.

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Speaker 2: Policy, Jinshaw could either have been released to her home or transferred to a halfway house to complete the remaining portion of her sentence under supervision. And while a final decision was made prior to her departure, that information is not being revealed yet in order to protect her privacy.

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Speaker 1: The BOP rain drops is the.

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Speaker 2: Bureau of Prisons Phoenix Residential re Entry Management Office, So a spokesperson did tell People magazine that community confinement means the inmate is an either home confinement or a residential re entry center a halfway house. For privacy, safety and security reasons, we do not disclose on individuals specific location while in community confinement, so we don't know where she's at.

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Speaker 1: And let's be clear, Jenshaw was given.

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Speaker 2: A six and a half year sentence and surrender herself on February seventeenth, two thousand and two and two three. So with that being said, with her release being only two years and nine months, we still don't know. When they say, you know her serving the remaining time of her sentence, is that four more years?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Been a halfway house? Is that four more years?

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Speaker 2: The house confinement based on what I'm reading that information, Monica has not been disclosed either, So I do have a.

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Speaker 3: Question, and I don't you know, I don't know is home confinement does that mean house arrest? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Much?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so pretty much she will have to stay in her house like with like an inkle monitor type of thing.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, inkle monitor for sure.

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Speaker 1: Having a curfew.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yes, having curfew from my understanding, not being able to leave the state.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's yes, yes, yes, it's it's listen every I'm sure a lot of people will prefer to be home and yeah, battle what it was like to stay at home during COVID.

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Speaker 1: But that is the case.

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Speaker 2: She will if she is at house arrest, she will run inco monitor, she'll have her curfew.

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Speaker 1: She would not be able to travel.

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Speaker 2: Unless it's something that they approved. So it really is a restriction. But to your point.

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Speaker 1: Again earlier, she will be at home with coach Seaw and your kids. And to me, that's a that's that's a huge blessing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What is not maybe a blessing to you, my sweet Monica, is your former castmates Honey Buddy Pudding decided to do a Women of Salt Lake City Mean Girls dance that you know, when they all were their Santa outfit. Yeah, so, just so we are fully aware of who was involved. It was Angie Whitney, Uh, Meredith and Britney as they recreated the infamous Mean Girls jingle Bell.

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Speaker 1: Rock dance, and Bromwin was Regina Georgia's mother. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I had so many, you know what, I wanted to go off and people came at me. People actually like I made her reel about it, people I made and it was nice. That was the nice version. But look, Bronwyn actually fucking killed it. She actually had me laughing my ass off. She she did an amazing job. She was let me just be very clear, she is exempt from this. She and Writy and honestly Whitney. My beef is not with them, honey, Okay, my beef is with the other two who made it seem like I was such a fucking loser for bringing up a mean girl reference because I made my receipt book a burned book and then they have just been piggybacking off that. It was just it was very comedic, like everyone's like shut up and move on and da dah da da da Yet over it, and I'm kind of like, don't like to say people that are still crying about your trauma from the third grade, so shut the fuck up. First of all, Okay, because you guys are still talking about stuff that happened to you when you were ten. This was just a couple of years ago for me literally. And also they talk so much shit on the burn Book and then you're gonna be out here looking a fool dancing on stage doing the mean girls dance. So it really just give me some credit for giving you that idea, that's all. That's all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, look, listen, you were iconic and evidently it shows because listen one of those things where I saw where it was sort of like.

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Speaker 1: And this is for the girls, right like you said. Yeah, I'll just say.

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Speaker 2: That because I think she's like the ringleader haven't can't denay you're impact, And she can't deny the impact of what you brought to this show at the Lason going viral. So let's be clear, they're not doing doing this to raise money for charity, no to go viral, and they know that. Yeah, taking backing off of something you did after regaining with the Burn Book was the best way to go about it.

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Speaker 1: So it was in a weird way. It was sort of like unbeknols to have it. Maybe a smoke.

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Speaker 2: Pike nod, a nod to Monica Garcia, you know, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was, it's this is the thing. Stop acting like I traumatized you so fucking damn bad, and that you're so mad about it. But you're you're doing the mean girls dance, that's all, that's all, And let me throw my little shade and let me have my little reference. I thought the real was hilarious, honey. I thought it was funny as fuck, because you want to be on that stage, so offended, so appalled, so uninterested that I made a burn book. And then you're up there with your little kuchikuchiku dance on the stage pretending like you're so that's all. Just give it a moment, Just give it a moment like she deserves.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Well listen, that was a moment that I thought was comedy because yeah, to this episode, they're about to recap, the snowflakes are melting and it's not standing on solid ground.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's This.

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Speaker 3: Episode had me all the way pissed off.

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Speaker 1: To be honest about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you already know me?

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Speaker 1: You already know.

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Speaker 2: She got.

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Speaker 3: Jackie Collins, Okay, because you know I've been waiting to talk to you about miss Brounland, honey, because I know she is. She is, She's she's the one to talk about because she's the newest, newest snowflake. So we're trying to figure this woman out on multiple levels, right and and I've been saying to you, she's over here acting one way, acting another way, say on one thing, doing another thing, Carlos, this might be, bitch, this might be some of the most whack ass shit I have seen a housewife try and backtrack. Girl, you cannot run this shit back. You cannot say let's have an open marriage and then be like I never said that. I am so cuny used because now you got me over here siding with fucking Heather Gay and I'm mad at you for that. I'm mad at you for that, because what do you mean you never said that? What do you mean we had this whole moment that you showed the viewers of you literally having an open conversation about open marriage, that you were like, I want to pick out the girl and you know, if that's what you know, he's in too, and let's talk about it, and I'd be open to it, and like, and then you're gonna say, no, I'm so happy, there's no problems at my house. Honey, we're good, We're good. We don't have an open marrior. No, I never said that, bitch, What the hell, Carlos.

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Speaker 2: I listen, as you know, I'm a Bromant Newport sand Yes, I will say I literally thought of Monica Garcia.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh fuck, I said Michael cob and she said, bitch, that wrong with I like her, but Carlos, she's not keeping it one hundred something. I was shocked. I was shocked that she tried to not only lie.

00:16:48
Speaker 2: So let's call it what it is, and I'm forgetting about it.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a bold face Live Live.

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Speaker 2: You told these girls that you were even open to have an open marriage.

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Speaker 1: But you and I called it a few weeks ago when we said, look, brom Win's playing chess.

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Speaker 2: She is aware that me and my husband are going to last long, and I'm going to expose all of the transgressions that he has, whether it's looking at.

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Speaker 1: You know, having naked women on the phone while.

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Speaker 2: Sitting in first class ordering a bloody Mary, and a woman or male behind him is taking pictures to show brown in for their house fan.

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Speaker 1: She knew that. She knew to go on camera saying are you open to have an open marriage? Because she want to show the courts.

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Speaker 2: I have done everything and try with this man to make this marriage work. You and I both know. You know, whether you know relationships married or not, you can feel a certain way about your wife or husband at the moment, and that shit dissipates as time go on. And that's why people say, don't tell your best friend what's going on your marriage, because two days, two business days later, you can have a whole complete feeling that the best friend, we hate your husband because he's looking at fucking photos and he's having an affair.

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Speaker 1: You exactly, but you're like, what do you mean.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stand beside him.

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Speaker 2: She got up, so I thinel wrong when in the moment said that told the truth. Weeks ago, I think she realized she may have said too much, and she's trying to protect her husband Todd, which is normal because in any marriage it is up and down. You hate your husband one day, you love him the next, but you realize, fuck, bitch, I exposed his transgressions.

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Speaker 1: Then these women are going to hold my feet to the fire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. You can't try and protect your husband and marriage when you completely ran it over with the bus, backed up, ran it over again, backed up again, and ran it over again, and backed up again, and ran it over again, and go, honey.

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Speaker 1: This whole season.

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Speaker 3: You have been dogging him out this whole season. What do you mean, what do you mean? Like, I, here's the thing. It's exactly what you said, and I actually I've never thought of that, but I love your take. You cannot tell your besties the shit your man did and then be like, oh, we're back together. That was I'm a different person, that was yesterday. But not expect your besties to feel, you know, still feel some type of way. They're still gonna feel some type of way. Now, that's fine, we've all been there. That's totally understandable. What I don't understand is you acting like that should never happen. That's what I don't get. It's one thing to be like, you know what, Yeah, we did talk about having an open marriage. And me picking out the women for him, and he was just looking at lingerie women on the phone and blah blah blah. But we're working through it. Those are two very different things. You can acknowledge what has been going on and be like, but we're staying together. Yeah, but you can't be like that never happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah.

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Speaker 2: The thing is this, she also knows that these women are genuine when it comes to their concern for your marriage. And that's why I appreciated Meritive giving her the play of like, look, I made the same mistake with these holes. They don't care about your marriage, so the fact that you're being vulnerable to them is going to work in a favor. And that's why from me, Yes, I've said this about Potomac a few days ago in my recap, and i'most say this same my Stamach City, and I'm curious to get your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The only friendship that I believe, well, there's two, there's one and a half I love the Okay.

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Speaker 2: The biggest friendship that I believe is genuine, that they really do like each other is Lisa and Maria. Yeah, Like, I really believe that they have this history, they have to Bob.

00:21:24
Speaker 1: Like most friends, they fall out, fall back in, fall off, fall back in.

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Speaker 4: But I think genuinely they like each other and that they take in touch when they're not filming. Y maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe I'll give it to Mary and Angie maybe, but I think it's too.

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Speaker 1: Soon to call.

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Speaker 2: My issue with Salt Lake City is I don't believe they're genuine friends.

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Speaker 1: Because this is what you do want, Monica.

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Speaker 2: You do want somebody to care what Brolin is going through her marriage. You do want somebody to huger and say, is gonna be okay, It's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: And we're rooting for you.

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Speaker 2: One thing about Atlanta, even even New York City when Bethany not should be watch New York City also Wives back in the day when it was amazing.

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Speaker 1: But hey, Bethany, Ramona lud.

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Speaker 5: Yes, when Louis was about to get married and Bethany had to tell her like, my best friends saw your fiance kids of another woman the lobby at the hotel, like, and they all cried, and they all cried to the way, that's what you want.

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Speaker 1: You want these girls to support brohmwin.

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Speaker 2: The part is On one hand, I kind of understand browin if she felt that it wasn't a safe space for her anymore, to be because she knew those women were not genuinely concerned about the state of her marriage.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna come that way. Okay, let me say this. Yes, one of my favorite favorite sayings is never confused curiosity for care. And that is what we're seeing. And it's very, very true. They don't care, honey, They're just curious. And especially miss Day Honey, she don't give a fuck. She just doesn't want to have to talk about her own damn life. So she's gonna talk about yours.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Gonna combat that with That's fine. I'd agree one hundred percent, But she still should have acknowledged.

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Speaker 1: I said that, agreed, agreed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I shouldn't have. I don't feel comfortable sharing anymore. Like, let's have a real conversation. This is the problem that I hate is be real. If you do feel like it's not a safe space anymore, then be like, you know what I did say that, I did share it, I overly shared, and I don't really feel like it's a safe space anymore. And that would have been tea. You know, so I just wish that she didn't just completely act like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know man, that was that that had never happened.

00:24:08
Speaker 1: That happens. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. So look, the ladies are in Greece or the international trip.

00:24:18
Speaker 3: Shocking, shocking, we get to hear more about Greek ship.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I I'm.

00:24:34
Speaker 3: Just jealous bitch because I Greece is in my top five places to go. I'm just a jealous petty.

00:24:41
Speaker 1: No Greef is top two, like I swar, so I'm just.

00:24:49
Speaker 3: Being petty, honey loosely washing.

00:24:52
Speaker 2: It was like, okay, Carlos kid, you gotta plany Greece for twenty twenty six.

00:24:58
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm so mad, so mad, I'll.

00:25:04
Speaker 1: Give me the discount ray please. It look good. Angie's Greek, so that's why they're there.

00:25:14
Speaker 3: Look, I didn't know that is she?

00:25:20
Speaker 1: She doesn't that. I had no idea.

00:25:23
Speaker 3: That was a shocking reveal for the episode.

00:25:28
Speaker 1: You needn't tell me as Greek.

00:25:33
Speaker 3: I didn't know it all.

00:25:38
Speaker 1: I'm okay. So they're in Greece. It looks gorgeous, and Monica are jealous.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: Tell us we're jealous congratulations girls and the producers.

00:25:51
Speaker 1: Okay, Tripp, Okay, so this party watch, I watched the ball. Okay, let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I literally haven't written down Guardian.

00:26:10
Speaker 1: Thinking of this. Just like we did not know Angie's Greek. We had no idea that Lisa a cardiac watch. We don't know that. We didn't know that. Yeah, it was the first time I heard that that Lisa that watch.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: So listen revelations in this episode.

00:26:29
Speaker 1: Okay, so said, Heather decides to.

00:26:35
Speaker 2: Take advantage of duty free and buy a six thousand dollars cardiac watch as a gag gip and bought her husband Whitney rosewe and said, is duty free?

00:26:51
Speaker 1: So low key? We got too for the price of wine. Okay, fine as a dad as a gag gift. Feel like front, Lisa, it listid to me. It was splicid.

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Speaker 2: I just thought, like Lisa said, it's the silliest argument to Are you girls running out of things to talk about? Yes? Are going to spend more than six thousand dollars to have a storyline? Yeah?

00:27:21
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, Heather Day spent twelve k to have a storyline.

00:27:26
Speaker 1: We're moughing we're the same, man, are you?

00:27:31
Speaker 3: I literally I that they just what floppergasted, truly, because I don't understand they keep coming and coming and coming for Lisa. And it's it's one thing that pissed me off about that seeing Carlos, I have to say this was Lisa actually handled it like a chap. She's like, I'm happy for you. I'm so that's amazing, that's amazing. I love that. I love that. And she was ready to let that shit go Carlo. She was like, I'm good, good on you, I'm happy for you. And here come little miss Angie greek.

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Speaker 1: K and she just like.

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Speaker 3: I have a Portia and I had this and I had that, and you're this and you're and it's like, girl, she handled that with class. She was like, good on you, I'm glad you have a watch. And it was done. But I just you know, it was It was literally so ridiculous. I think it's funny that Angie is coming at Lisa for being materialistic when that was exactly what I was saying in season four. And Angie was up my ass for saying that about Lisa. And here we are, literally a couple of years later, and we got Angie and confessionals talking about how Lisa's materialistic.

00:28:59
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I did it. You know what it was for me?

00:29:04
Speaker 2: It was one of the things where I felt like Angie was either told by producers to bring this up, yeah, or because it just it was so silly. And I'm getting tired of the silly, nonsensical arguments that doesn't really hold any true way to it. And I said this last week, and I will say every fucking week until I see something different.

00:29:33
Speaker 1: I feel like they hit a wall with with Yeah.

00:29:37
Speaker 3: I mean, we're in Greece, still on Meredith's ass. We're doing the same ship but in a different country, like there's no and you know, I do want to say I love that they showed Meredith attempting to have a private conversation with Heather, Like I love that they rolled the footage on that and showed that Meredith is out here trying with Heather and honestly doing it in a genuine friendship way. If we're really friends, Carlos and we got beef, I'm going to pull you aside. You and I are going to have that conversation. And that's exactly what Meredith was trying to do with Heather, and Heather kept trying to make it a group event. So props to Meredith for trying to keep that between them and have a conversation with just her, And props to production for showing that because they didn't have to, they could just like, you know, whatever, but they rolled that back and they showed that.

00:30:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: No, Meredith was and has been attempting to fix shit with Heather.

00:30:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And that's why I'm for me. In this episode, I thought Meredith handled everything well. Yeah, because listen.

00:30:50
Speaker 2: I think Meredith's sort of like, look, did I active full on the plane?

00:30:55
Speaker 1: Sure? Did?

00:30:57
Speaker 2: I think for the past month, you girls, we're gonna bring this shit up every fucking.

00:31:02
Speaker 1: Day and and have a heart on for this. No, So in order for us to.

00:31:07
Speaker 2: Move forward, let me just address it, make a mint and and and and.

00:31:11
Speaker 1: Push past this because it has done out of hand. Yeah, and I agree with you. I appreciated them showing that.

00:31:19
Speaker 2: Meredith is at least trying with Heather because that Heather is, in my opinion, it produces pet and.

00:31:28
Speaker 1: That means obvious. It's obvious.

00:31:30
Speaker 2: She Yeah, obvious, and she Meredith knows that Heather's the one that's going to continue to fan the flanes when it comes to the airplane story, and unfortunately we are subjected to another dinner where that is the main topic of conversation, and.

00:31:51
Speaker 3: It was so frustrating for me to watch it and not be at that table.

00:31:56
Speaker 1: Let me tell me about that.

00:31:57
Speaker 3: Yeah no, because the way people can believe what they want. I know everyone thinks I'm full of shit. That's fine, but I truly have not watched Yeah right, I truly have not watched a season since my season, so this really is my first time watching all episodes, full episodes and every the last couple episodes. Carlos, I'm like, this is why I'm not there, man, Like, this is why I'm not there because I challenge the fuck out of them and they do not like that. So watching that scene with Meredith and seeing Heather and what the fuck she was saying for, if I were there, I would have been like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, did you just say selective outrage? Did you just say that? Because the amount of selective outrage that you have for others versus Jen Shaw is astronomical, So I know you're not getting on our girl, Meredith Marx for being selective about what she chooses to be upset about, and not chooses to be upset about, chooses to hide, not chooses to hide when you are sitting on the biggest throne of selective outrage out of everyone else at this table, Like it's infuriating Carlos to have somebody like Heather yelling at Meredith marks okay about what she can and can't choose to be upset about. Are you be so fucking for real right now? Because he watched Jen. Look, I don't want this to be a Gen bashing thing. I really don't. I'm but this is facts. This is just facts. We watched Jen lash out at every single person. We watch Jen throw glasses, We watch Gen charge Lisa on a bus. We watched all of this stuff happen. Where the fuck were you, Heather, Where the fuck were you Not once were you like coming at Gen for how she was acting? But this is being drug to hell because Meredith lost it on a plane. Like, I'm just it's it's so infuriating. It's so infuriating to have such a hypocritical piece bitch, let me go, su bitch wha you know what it is. It's also the sexual thing. Okay, because I don't know if you remember in season four when we were dressed bitch, I showed up as Johnny Depp with a mustache as a pirate y. Yeah, and we were I brought up sex, and I was the fucking disgusting for bringing that up. When we've got Heather fucking dry humping a champagne bottle okay and talking about sex this sex, then if this is what I'm saying with Heather, the hypocrisy is astounding. And I wanted to be at that table so bad to charge her ass for what she was the words coming out of her mouth to Meredith when she has the track record she has it's it's a it's a damn joke. It's a damn joke. At this point, it's even with Lisa, right, you ruin my life. I mean, there's so much shit that people don't know that that woman has done to me in the real world, not just the show a Heather, yes, over this blogger page. But then you find out apparently you have receipts, which I'm wondering if they're the ones that I gave you, bitch from the burn book. Okay, but then you sit there and watch what happens live and say you have receipts on Lisa talking to bloggers, and then in the same bressay, it doesn't matter. So for me, it's burn her at the stake. For Lisa, it's doesn't matter. And you want to talk about selective outrage, Okay.

00:36:11
Speaker 2: Question for you, why do you think speaking of the word selective?

00:36:16
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take it to another category, why do.

00:36:19
Speaker 2: These women have selective memory when it comes to calling Heather out on how duplicitous she is when it comes to having selective outrage over one thing over another like it?

00:36:35
Speaker 1: Are they scared of her?

00:36:36
Speaker 2: Do they just not remember or or are they afraid to call her out?

00:36:42
Speaker 3: I don't mean this to sound insulting at all, Okay, I don't think they're quick with it. That's it. And I think that's why she hated I think that's why she hated me so much. I think it's, you know something that in the moment, it takes a special kind of per sin to be able to be like.

00:37:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, spot on the spot, on the spot on the spot.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom. Yeah, yeah, it really does. Okay, you got your you got your nanny leaks like that, you got you know what I mean? It is yeah, can yeah, yes, it's yes.

00:37:19
Speaker 2: Bitch to take what somebody's to you and taking that living.

00:37:27
Speaker 1: Boom. Yes.

00:37:29
Speaker 3: And I'm not I'm not saying this cocky, but I am able to do that. Call it years of training with l D. Okay, my crazy ass mama. But unfortunately I have gotten into a place where I'm just very quick with it. And I think that's why they hated me, because where do you go from there? You know what I mean? What is Heathery going to say to that? Literally, it's the truth. So what are you gonna say? Other people need a minute. I don't agree with you, and they need to process and they need to think and they need to you know, it does, it's it's it's baffling. It's it's honestly so baffling and infuriating to watch. And it's just I don't even think it's about Brittany. I don't even think that.

00:38:22
Speaker 1: They don't know.

00:38:25
Speaker 3: No, no, like, come on, it's not even about that. I just I can't.

00:38:31
Speaker 1: I don't.

00:38:34
Speaker 3: Carlos, Heather, I don't know if you know this was on watch what happens live last night, and I didn't watch it because here, but I did see. Yeah, I did see a lot of the clips. And this is just an example. That woman sat on that stage and was asked a question about Brittany versus Meredith in which one she would pick. Again, I didn't watch it, so I don't I can't say exactly what was asked, and she picked Britney. And that woman sat on that stage and said, because a friend that gives ultimatums is not a friend at all. And I'm like, not, when you gave an entire cast an ultimatum, don't talk to Monica or else, not when you gave a network an ultimatum, don't bring back Monica or else, Like, this is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. So I see and.

00:39:40
Speaker 1: Watch what happens.

00:39:41
Speaker 2: I mean, bitch for people in the comments calling her out, because I hope they're quick with.

00:39:48
Speaker 1: It too, taking magnesium pails with people.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: I don't even know what goes on behind the scene, right, I even know about watching Michelle. You could tell that aultimatum to those casts about you, like said on that on that Big Little Lies as seeing on the beach where.

00:40:10
Speaker 1: All these women are in their swimwear. Yeah, like I know, it gave little lies to me, was orchestrated by a boy. The iis bitch.

00:40:21
Speaker 2: Old, like, yeah, you don't have to be producer to see what was happening. So the fact that she want to watch he happens live to say anything about automatoes on being a thing when you are the queen of aultimatums, it's not bad Mormon.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: It's a bad aultimatum. Like that's what.

00:40:41
Speaker 3: Hurry, She's gonna take that for.

00:40:43
Speaker 1: Her twentieth book, Aultmato Mormon. Yes, bench in store soon. Okay, what did you exact?

00:40:56
Speaker 2: Lisa crying about feeling like, look you girls, well you have that just have been against me and you know she said it hurt.

00:41:08
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, man, like I said, you got me fucked up because I'm out here. I'm out here feeling bad for Meredith. I will I would Meredith if this gets to you, if you're watching, I would have fought so hard for you at that table.

00:41:26
Speaker 2: Girl.

00:41:27
Speaker 3: This season is pissing me the fuck off. I don't like it, and I also don't like that they had me feeling bad for Lisa Barlow. Man, I don't where I'm not right because Lisa and Meredith have they have, They've taken a beating this season, and unfortunately, I know how that feels. It's not fun. It's not fucking fun. And I get you know, people are gonna be like, well, everyone gets the role. Everyone has to be a villain. Everyone has a bad season everybody. Yeah, sure, but it still sucks. It still sucks. They're still living it, they're still going through it, they're still dealing with it, they're still facing it. These are long ass filming days. I couldn't believe Carlos, they went straight from the plane to a dinner. I'm like, I'm in their plane clothes. They are exhausted. I'm sure this is a lot. It's real. At the end of the day, it is. These are real people and they are filming, and you do have real emotions. So you know, when she was crying, I'm sure that's coming from somewhere, whether it's a culmination of a lot of things, Uh, John, her kids, she's tired. I don't fucking know the lawsuits, Honey, you gotta I felt bad. I felt bad that she was getting glam which we all know is Lisa Barlow and you've got them all just talking shit the whole time, like you guys know that's Lisa at that point. You know it's Lisa and you should just expect it, right, expect it.

00:43:06
Speaker 1: And accept it like that's yeah. And I think that's the listen.

00:43:10
Speaker 2: I think this show has to do an.

00:43:17
Speaker 1: Overview what they have.

00:43:21
Speaker 2: Of course, who they have, they have to they have to reascess. There needs to be a cash shake up now, Oh no, there.

00:43:31
Speaker 1: Has to be.

00:43:32
Speaker 3: I will say, I will say, you're not wrong. I just have to say this before I forget. Allegedly they are they are doing that. I will just leave it at that. But allegedly they are not with me, Okay, but yet yeah, allegedly they are doing that. So I'm just letting you know.

00:43:54
Speaker 1: You're right.

00:43:55
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

00:43:56
Speaker 1: Well it's music look music to my ears. Yeah.

00:44:01
Speaker 2: I think it's for those things where they just don't have aims to talk about. And I really do want to see real friendships. I was looking forward to seeing a friendship between Bronwin and Lisa because they you know, they have friends and they were friends. I don't like it where friends fall out to the point of no return. Yeah, there's no trust there, and it just seems to me like there isn't the group is in a safe space in terms of having conflict resolution, like okay, bitch, we have conflict, let's resolve it.

00:44:38
Speaker 1: We do like each other, even at the end of the episode where Meredith walks away because she just like at one point, do you guys just stop beating me?

00:44:52
Speaker 3: Uh like, oh I get that, honey, Yeah.

00:44:55
Speaker 1: No, And and I want to ask you about that.

00:44:57
Speaker 2: Like, I felt really bad for Meredith this episode because the only way for it to make sense to me, for definite, to keep dragging us out is if we have footage A and B.

00:45:10
Speaker 1: She was like, it never happened. I think Meredith in so many words as.

00:45:14
Speaker 2: Saying something's happened and they not have happened the way you are saying it.

00:45:19
Speaker 1: But I knowledge something happened, and she's right. I only owe Brittany an apology and didn't have Whitney.

00:45:25
Speaker 3: Reil said, oh no, you also, Oh that's an apology.

00:45:29
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, Whitney, I love you.

00:45:31
Speaker 2: Down Boots, but stay out of this girl like by like, it doesn't involve you, it involves Brittany. If Brittany can move on I don't see why these other girls are on it still.

00:45:45
Speaker 3: It's it's yeah, it's just there's nothing else going on. And unfortunately, that's literally what you said. That's what it comes down to. Either we're harping on it because we've got footage that's going to be revealed, or we're harping on it because we've got nothing else to talk about. And I completely disagree with the fact that they have nothing else to talk about. You could be riding Bromin's ass right now instead of giving her yet another fucking green for go pass and not making her talk about the fact that she's completely denying that she ever said any of this shit. Why are you guys not talking about that? Like, I don't know, Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, there are other things happening that you guys could be talking about. You guys could be talking about Whitney and Justin's business situation that Whitney is talking about, like like truly though.

00:46:38
Speaker 2: There are boys, Yeah, there.

00:46:40
Speaker 3: Are things going on, there's other shit going on, and so yeah, like you said, it's gotta be either they don't want to talk about any of that shit or there's footage. I just it doesn't make it doesn't make sense. I don't know, it's it's weird.

00:47:02
Speaker 2: It is weird, and I'm actually just surprised by you because I haven't seen this happen on the show before.

00:47:07
Speaker 1: So the fact that is happening is why I'm saying.

00:47:09
Speaker 2: The only answers for me is like, we're going to need to make some changes with this cast, and at least unfortunately, because I don't want to any of my loser job obviously, but I think what makes sense is, you know, I can see a world where two of them are removed and replaced.

00:47:29
Speaker 3: Ooh, so okay, I have to clear this up because my ass always gets in trouble. Bitch. Everyone else gets away with everything. I am held to a different standard. But I have I have to clear this up because I will I will get in trouble. I have not talked to anybody in production. Okay, I don't know shit for sure. These are all things I'm seeing online or stuff that is anonymously sent to me. Okay, but just you know, just keep that in mind. Okay. Apparently Meredith was offered a friend of role for next season and she was like, absolutely not, And so they're dealing with that, which if that's true, I don't think it is. But if that's true, good on her for being like, uh ah, honey, I gave you a plane story for the rest of the season. But apparently, yeah, they're looking at demoting two and bringing in like three newbies. And again, I don't know any of this for true. I don't know any of this for certain. We're just keeking and having fun talking about it. But that is what's sliding in my DMS. And honestly, I mean, I don't even real opinion. I don't even think they've had negotiation talks yet, So that's why I don't personally, Yeah, that's why I personally don't believe it and don't give this shit a lot of stock. But it's funny to hear the rumors and it's fun to see what's happening. But I don't even think they've talked about ship yet.

00:49:09
Speaker 2: So no, I think I think this. I definitely think, which, by the way, happens on every show.

00:49:15
Speaker 1: Guys.

00:49:16
Speaker 2: I definitely think they're looking at other women, oh for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're definitely looking at other women and poking around and talking to people, putting people on tape awaits always yeah, that's I think, that's for sure. I think nothing definitive just yet have been made. I think possibly, like I said, some like you know, little conversation something, yes, you know, suggestions, some different positions on the show.

00:49:48
Speaker 1: I could, I can.

00:49:49
Speaker 2: See things being seated in conversation. But I think to your point, nothing definitive today, So I have to agree with you with that.

00:50:02
Speaker 1: And look, next week they're still in Greece becoming attractions. Didn't show anything different, but hey, we'll see. I was like, wait a minute, are we still on this ship about the plane? I know, I know.

00:50:18
Speaker 3: No, and I'm like, gent is out, bitch y'all better bring that ship. Gentra is actual, is free free gent shaw hashtag uphold the Constitution, honey, and they have some real competition now, so they better bring it.

00:50:32
Speaker 1: Hey better bring not uphold Constitution.

00:50:36
Speaker 2: Monica Garcia, I'm says I love you, love you, love you, love you, love you, love you love you.

00:50:41
Speaker 1: Have to the games and days, Monica Garcia.

00:50:43
Speaker 2: I will be back next week to recap another episode of City. Make sure if you listen to this on audio, check out the youtubes. We can see our reactions to us a fun.

00:50:57
Speaker 1: Love you. I love you, baby,