Raven-Symoné and Miranda Maday (Tea Time)

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<v Speaker 1>Much better?
<v Speaker 3>Much better? Indeed I was.
<v Speaker 1>Crappy yesterday and now that David.
<v Speaker 3>We're happy. Yes, we have two very special guests for
<v Speaker 3>you today, none other than Raven Simone and Miranda may Day.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for being here. We're excited.
<v Speaker 3>We were on the drive in this morning, we were
<v Speaker 3>listening to some interviews that you've done before, and I
<v Speaker 3>have to say, like, you just have such a fascinating
<v Speaker 3>life to me, like just really fascinating because I will
<v Speaker 3>actually elaborate on that because because to me, there's really
<v Speaker 3>only like, off the top of my head, there's really
<v Speaker 3>only like three professions that you can do, like almost
<v Speaker 3>straight out of womb, and that's like acting, singing, acting singing,
<v Speaker 3>and what like performing.
<v Speaker 1>Learn to walk.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's so fascinating to me to just like
<v Speaker 3>have such like your whole life essentially like on camera,
<v Speaker 3>Like that's such a unique human experience.
<v Speaker 1>You're in the category. You're in that Shirley Temple category.
<v Speaker 2>Definitely know a little bit about her, Yeah, definitely.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if she was the Yes, she could
<v Speaker 4>have been the first female. There might have been a
<v Speaker 4>boy beforehand, because we know how America works. But I listen,
<v Speaker 4>Shirley Temple's name was definitely thrown around the house a lot,
<v Speaker 4>and especially in the time that I grew up in
<v Speaker 4>the industry, early late eighties, early yeah, mid.
<v Speaker 2>Eighties, eighty five.
<v Speaker 5>Mayor you were born that's mids.
<v Speaker 2>That is exactly mid you guys, forget me, I have
<v Speaker 2>math issues.
<v Speaker 4>It was imperative that someone that looked like me, female
<v Speaker 4>and black, have everything underneath their belt just in case
<v Speaker 4>you get called.
<v Speaker 2>At any moment.
<v Speaker 4>And that was something that was definitely drilled into me
<v Speaker 4>at a young age. So dance classes, singing lessons, practicing
<v Speaker 4>and practicing day in and day out, and making sure
<v Speaker 4>you have good grades because you still have to know
<v Speaker 4>the war of eighteen twelve, if there is such a war.
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't. Maybe I have no.
<v Speaker 1>Idea, but at least you got the year right. Some
<v Speaker 1>yearly pissed off. That's insane. Well, no pressure, no, no, no, no.
<v Speaker 2>No, no pressure at all, because this is what life
<v Speaker 2>is about.
<v Speaker 4>I was taught at a very young age that, like,
<v Speaker 4>just because you're a kid in this industry, you still
<v Speaker 4>have to know that there's this amount of money being
<v Speaker 4>made for each episode. If you get sick or if
<v Speaker 4>you want to quit your ruining production and get on
<v Speaker 4>your stuff, and like you have days off and those
<v Speaker 4>are the days you take off, but sick, not sick,
<v Speaker 4>just get up and work.
<v Speaker 2>So no pressure, no, not at all, any talking pressure.
<v Speaker 3>And you were raised in and a round show business
<v Speaker 3>as well, as far as I understand correct, this is correct.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my parents both were big show biz people, and
<v Speaker 5>they're in the sense that, like my mom wanted to
<v Speaker 5>be an actress and my dad always knew he wanted
<v Speaker 5>to do something in the industry. And they met actually
<v Speaker 5>in school doing shows. I'm named after Miranda from The Tempest, okay,
<v Speaker 5>and so they were big Shakespeare lesbians. And then yeah,
<v Speaker 5>they moved to Los Angeles had me. My dad worked
<v Speaker 5>at CBS and then he went over to Warner Brothers
<v Speaker 5>and he worked at Warner Brothers for I think like
<v Speaker 5>twenty eight twenty nine years. So yeah, when by the
<v Speaker 5>time that I was born, I was you know, I
<v Speaker 5>was a lot.
<v Speaker 3>So you don't get starstruck or anything like that.
<v Speaker 5>Not really, not really. I feel like there's the one off,
<v Speaker 5>you know. I mean honestly, you like.
<v Speaker 2>What you well, just so much respect.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a childhood it's the childhood nostalgia. I think that
<v Speaker 5>you know, you're I mean like Winnie the Pooh, I
<v Speaker 5>mean that was like, so, so you have to do
<v Speaker 5>the voice for him?
<v Speaker 1>Well I suppose I could, but only honey, oh, poor Raven,
<v Speaker 1>that is so raven of you.
<v Speaker 4>It is a camera can I put that as my ringtone.
<v Speaker 2>That's the only time. That is the only time I
<v Speaker 2>claim that.
<v Speaker 5>See what I'm saying. I want to be can who
<v Speaker 5>say my name?
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so it would be ever so hard.
<v Speaker 5>He's like, no, Miranda, No.
<v Speaker 1>It's well, you know, I did a cartoon at Bonkers
<v Speaker 1>and my partner was Miranda, right, So is that's kind
<v Speaker 1>of cool?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah that is.
<v Speaker 1>But it's nice to meet you, Miranda. Oh that was Bonkers,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, And it is nice to meet you, Miranda.
<v Speaker 1>And you're just both as sweet as honey. And I
<v Speaker 1>know you're an excellent Bochler and I could give you
<v Speaker 1>a Bountain lesson. That's what the best.
<v Speaker 5>I'm a star struck moment because that's that's our that's childhood.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's like my mom would probably weep hearing
<v Speaker 5>that because Winnie the Pooh was so so special, so special.
<v Speaker 4>My question to you is, I really do have a question.
<v Speaker 4>I know this is your podcast question. Please, when you
<v Speaker 4>were up for that role, did you already craft that
<v Speaker 4>voice going in or did they help mold that voice
<v Speaker 4>from you?
<v Speaker 1>No? You know it was God bless him. Sterling Halloway
<v Speaker 1>Late Sterling Halloway. He the character actor. He was Winning
<v Speaker 1>the Pooh in sixty four maybe nineteen sixty five, and
<v Speaker 1>I was just a little towerp and I heard that
<v Speaker 1>voice and I would do it. Well, We're sitting around
<v Speaker 1>playing Monopoly, and it would be I.
<v Speaker 2>Believe I shall buypuck place.
<v Speaker 1>You know, and I just played around doing it.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>Never, I mean at a hundred years, you would never
<v Speaker 1>think maybe I'll grow up and they'll make a cartoon
<v Speaker 1>of this, Winnie the Pooh care because it was they
<v Speaker 1>were just the first three from the sixties. And then
<v Speaker 1>they took off for twenty years.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which was good.
<v Speaker 1>Because I've always said it gave me a chance to
<v Speaker 1>grow up and then then I could finally and God
<v Speaker 1>bless him. They started the series, The New Adventures of
<v Speaker 1>Winnie the Poop, and of course they called him in
<v Speaker 1>to do it Sterling Halloween. But at that point he
<v Speaker 1>was quite old. He was in his nineties maybe late nineties,
<v Speaker 1>and so it and it was interesting because he already
<v Speaker 1>had an older sound. I mean, you know, that's not
<v Speaker 1>a ten year old, you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, was supposed to be a ten year old.
<v Speaker 1>Well no, but I don't think so. But he appealed
<v Speaker 1>to them.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you know, I mean it is Winnie the Pooh.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's let's go with that.
<v Speaker 2>So is Morgan Freeman. So how old is why get
<v Speaker 2>out of here?
<v Speaker 5>It turns one hundred next year, Yeah, Morgan Freeman turns
<v Speaker 5>one hundred. I was like, God, damn you guys ageless.
<v Speaker 1>If my friend Tom Kane was here, he could answer
<v Speaker 1>his Morgan Freeman. I think he did a lot of
<v Speaker 1>doubling for him.
<v Speaker 4>Wow.
<v Speaker 5>So I'm curious to know with your voice, did you
<v Speaker 5>just as a child realize that he had a little parrot?
<v Speaker 3>Like?
<v Speaker 5>How does one realize.
<v Speaker 1>This incredibly annoying? Could you imagine sitting around with me
<v Speaker 1>as because I was worse than now I have a barometer.
<v Speaker 1>Now I can pull it down back then I was like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you know I'm doing it. Was just like, oh, shut
<v Speaker 1>this kid up. You know I was the poster boy
<v Speaker 1>for ADHD. You know I just made monkey our pay off.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that people would pay you. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 1>I found out and I said, okay, wow, let's do this.
<v Speaker 1>I ain't going anywhere.
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful.
<v Speaker 5>You know it was your favorite person to impersonate.
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I don't know. I never thought of it.
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, I'm supposed to be asking the question.
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, sorry, No.
<v Speaker 1>My favorite person to impersonate God I don't know. You know,
<v Speaker 1>Jack Nicholson's in there somewhere, and uh, Goley.
<v Speaker 3>You don't do many impersonations, had a ton. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 3>interesting on this podcast, like learning like the different facets
<v Speaker 3>of like voice acting. We just had Efron Ramirez. You
<v Speaker 3>played Pedro on Napoleon Dynamo. Wow, And like it's so
<v Speaker 3>interesting to me because like the more you focus on
<v Speaker 3>like any aspect of like humanity or any talent, any
<v Speaker 3>any job, any career, like it seems to get so
<v Speaker 3>like hyper focused that like, okay, you feel like you
<v Speaker 3>understand most of it, and then it branches back out
<v Speaker 3>and there's like all these other fingers of it, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And I say all that to go back to my
<v Speaker 3>initial statement of like, you know, there's voice actors who
<v Speaker 3>are like great impressionists, and then voice actors who are
<v Speaker 3>you know, great at coming up with voices, you know,
<v Speaker 3>unique voices and matching voices. And then there's there's another
<v Speaker 3>one that's like voice actors who just have a great voice.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, like you and like you you have a great voice.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you, And yeah, you know, they get cast
<v Speaker 3>over and over, like the guy who played Archer and
<v Speaker 3>Bob's Burgers.
<v Speaker 2>And oh my god, he's everywhere.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he's a great Benjamin.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, it's just so fascinating to like learn
<v Speaker 3>all these different facets of show business in general. Interesting,
<v Speaker 3>you know, like what I initially said to you, that's
<v Speaker 3>what fascinates me so much about like your life, you know,
<v Speaker 3>not just like your career, but your life is such
<v Speaker 3>a unique human experience. And I was even thinking about
<v Speaker 3>it on the drive here, like nobody can really even
<v Speaker 3>like teach you how to navigate life because it's how
<v Speaker 3>unique it is, right, so therapist can.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have probably somebody in them, you know, Like.
<v Speaker 3>Who who do you look up to and like to
<v Speaker 3>guide you who's had that same experience. It's hard to
<v Speaker 3>you know, look up to people who haven't necessarily walked
<v Speaker 3>in shoes before.
<v Speaker 1>And now I assume you have not met Shirley Temple.
<v Speaker 2>Great, if I met Shirley Temple, that was my best tea.
<v Speaker 3>Was there anybody in your life that you know, kind
<v Speaker 3>of gave you some guidance in that in that kind
<v Speaker 3>of way.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I'm going to answer two different ways.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I do have people in my life that guide
<v Speaker 4>my career and me as a human because of their
<v Speaker 4>career in this industry.
<v Speaker 2>And then there are people that I.
<v Speaker 4>Wish I could be guided by, but they're they're out
<v Speaker 4>of reach and they're not in my vibration. So I'll
<v Speaker 4>say it this way. Debbie Allen is someone that I
<v Speaker 4>look up to and admire and revere and just want
<v Speaker 4>to be up underneath her all the time because her
<v Speaker 4>career I'm shadowing her right now. Her career is spectacular, and.
<v Speaker 2>Who Debbie Allen?
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Debbie Allen is doing things that at her age
<v Speaker 4>that I want to do at her age and now.
<v Speaker 2>So she is someone that is definitely on the list.
<v Speaker 4>And I have some people behind the scenes as well,
<v Speaker 4>like Debora Martin Chase and people like that. However, the
<v Speaker 4>Jodie Fosters or the Ron Howards that actually started as
<v Speaker 4>a child and then became directors, and like, I wish
<v Speaker 4>I could be in their vibration and be in their
<v Speaker 4>world because I think the conversation would look different for
<v Speaker 4>me moving forward.
<v Speaker 3>What I'm pretty sure Ron Eric does podcast. I'm serious.
<v Speaker 3>I think he was on Michael Rosenbaum's.
<v Speaker 4>If I'm not mistaken, Oh that's fire, then I'll reach
<v Speaker 4>out because him, Jody. Very few people can say that
<v Speaker 4>they've been in the industry before they can walk. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>it's the Ulson Twins and myself and people like that.
<v Speaker 4>But I couldn't read, and I was doing scripts and
<v Speaker 4>entertaining people.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, I heard you telling a story that
<v Speaker 3>your parents would read you scripts as bedtime stories.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you read them right before you go to sleep.
<v Speaker 4>I go to sleep, I wake up, and then as
<v Speaker 4>I kind of talk to my therapist and uncover some stuff.
<v Speaker 4>I'm writing my memoir right now. It is the constant
<v Speaker 4>throughout the day, the rehearsal, and then when I get
<v Speaker 4>home the new pages my dad and I guess my
<v Speaker 4>mom too, but I think it was mostly my dad,
<v Speaker 4>you know, reading the script back and forth to me
<v Speaker 4>before all through the day, before I go to sleep,
<v Speaker 4>and then when I wake up, it's there. So they
<v Speaker 4>also said I had a photographic memory when I started
<v Speaker 4>to look at scripts, and it's kind of true now
<v Speaker 4>even still, like I can look at a script, you've
<v Speaker 4>experienced it, right, how quickly. I can like memorize it,
<v Speaker 4>but I definitely forget it, which is the side effect
<v Speaker 4>of the job that I have, which is I have
<v Speaker 4>a horrible memory, Like my brain just purges things. I
<v Speaker 4>can't remember what happened yesterday or you know, I'll remember
<v Speaker 4>big events or really traumatic ones, but you can't tell
<v Speaker 4>me what I said in a script.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know I've got a little of that too.
<v Speaker 1>I I wonder what that is, because you know, I
<v Speaker 1>tend to remember things and now I can not so
<v Speaker 1>much anymore.
<v Speaker 3>But but.
<v Speaker 1>You remember it as long as you need it exactly.
<v Speaker 1>And oh I don't need that anymore. I can get
<v Speaker 1>to Okay. Now I got a clean slate. Now I
<v Speaker 1>can absorb some new bullshit that I soon will not
<v Speaker 1>need exactly.
<v Speaker 2>And they'll change it probably.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how yours works, but they love to
<v Speaker 4>change the script from Monday to Wednesday when I'm rehearsing.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm learning one script on Monday and by Friday
<v Speaker 4>it's a whole it's new things, and the brain just
<v Speaker 4>learns to purge.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, fortunately for me, I just read it first
<v Speaker 1>time because I just do animation. That's it, and I
<v Speaker 1>the only the time the first time I read it,
<v Speaker 1>it's being recorded. That's why I it, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>just I don't, you know, because a lot of times
<v Speaker 1>I'll do read throughs and yeah, and that's fine, and
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it if I have to, but I'd prefer
<v Speaker 1>to just don't just put it right there. No, no, no,
<v Speaker 1>because you know, my joke is in stinks are the
<v Speaker 1>best stinks and and I love that, you know. The
<v Speaker 1>first thing that pops out into your head and out
<v Speaker 1>of my mouth at this point is, uh, it's probably
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, you know, And we'll do another take if
<v Speaker 1>we have to.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I understand that my wife and my wife
<v Speaker 4>and I kind of have this situation at at home
<v Speaker 4>when she does tiktoks. I was always taught do it
<v Speaker 4>right the first time, get it done. And you know,
<v Speaker 4>they used to call me a one take wonder back
<v Speaker 4>on the Cosby Show, like you if you did it twice,
<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of gonna forget what I did beforehand, and
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to get.
<v Speaker 3>The same thing, okay.
<v Speaker 4>And so even on that so Raven and Raven's Home,
<v Speaker 4>they were like, you never did the same take twice,
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like yeah, And in my head, I'm like, because.
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what I did?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And then when my wife is doing tiktoks with me,
<v Speaker 4>she's like, can we do it again?
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I just did it fantastic already, you need
<v Speaker 2>to do it one more time. I'm like, this is
<v Speaker 2>the third time? Are you sure? But you know not
<v Speaker 2>every well.
<v Speaker 1>I always thought that that was an odd thing. Anyway,
<v Speaker 1>that was perfect again? Right now? This time? What happened
<v Speaker 1>to that was perfect?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Where that was perfect? Go?
<v Speaker 4>I agree, I fully agree. That's why I don't use
<v Speaker 4>that word when I direct. Now I'm like, okay, okay,
<v Speaker 4>let's get another one. Let's see you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 4>because if it was perfect, you don't need it again.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I agree.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's let's let's do another perfect. Let's do another perfect,
<v Speaker 1>rewind it, play it again exactly. Hey, let's do that.
<v Speaker 2>I love that we won good.
<v Speaker 5>I think that's why sometimes when you work on a
<v Speaker 5>movie or a television show and you're so frustrated by
<v Speaker 5>the length of the hour of the work day. Because
<v Speaker 5>I just said that in such a twisted way, but
<v Speaker 5>I think you guys understood what I was saying. But
<v Speaker 5>I worked on a move where I mean I was
<v Speaker 5>on set, no joke, twenty hours a day, and the
<v Speaker 5>length of time obviously that our actors were there was
<v Speaker 5>much less, but they would do the same scene and
<v Speaker 5>this director actually ended up getting called out for it
<v Speaker 5>and it was a whole thing. But I mean six
<v Speaker 5>hours on one scene. I kid you not just and
<v Speaker 5>you know you haven't met your day at that point.
<v Speaker 5>Like the it was insane and I know we had
<v Speaker 5>to turn the camera around and get it. But the
<v Speaker 5>amount of times that he would require a scene to
<v Speaker 5>be shot was wild.
<v Speaker 1>It was.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, by the end of it, I had the
<v Speaker 5>whole I had everything memorized because I was hearing.
<v Speaker 3>It so much.
<v Speaker 1>It was wild, I would imagine. And then they ended
<v Speaker 1>up using the first one. Oh probably right, that's the kicker.
<v Speaker 5>Or they just cut the whole scene, you know what
<v Speaker 5>I mean?
<v Speaker 1>Like that that's always good.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're like, where was that moment? Oh they cut it?
<v Speaker 2>No, wonder those so much?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's true.
<v Speaker 3>But what inspired you to start a podcast?
<v Speaker 5>I really felt like podcasting was my medium, and I
<v Speaker 5>for what reason, I feel like I've had She likes
<v Speaker 5>I like to talk I like having conversation. I really
<v Speaker 5>really enjoy getting to know people and having insightful and
<v Speaker 5>intentional conversation. And I think that I used to work
<v Speaker 5>as a birth doula, and what is that? What birth
<v Speaker 5>doula is somebody who supports women through their labor and
<v Speaker 5>delivery or their pregnancy and then their postpartum. A midwife
<v Speaker 5>can actually deliver a baby, a doula cannot. A doula
<v Speaker 5>is really just a support person.
<v Speaker 1>I'd be good and I could probably do that one.
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what I'm gonna go. I'm gonna get
<v Speaker 1>a college.
<v Speaker 5>What time is it exactly? You probably could do it.
<v Speaker 5>And it's really just about knowing how to advocate and
<v Speaker 5>show up for the person who's having a baby. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>it's amazing work. And I realized though, and having conversations
<v Speaker 5>with my clients and with families, that there was such
<v Speaker 5>a lack of education and understanding, especially for first time parents.
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, Okay, this is interesting. So I
<v Speaker 5>kind of tried to start a podcast that focused on
<v Speaker 5>that didn't really go. And then Raven and I simultaneously
<v Speaker 5>started doing just fun things on Instagram or lives and
<v Speaker 5>people were really enjoying the banter between us and we
<v Speaker 5>started a YouTube channel in the beginning of covid, and
<v Speaker 5>the parts of the YouTube channel just kind of morphed
<v Speaker 5>into what is now tea Time and it's been great.
<v Speaker 5>It's been a real ride, but I love I love it,
<v Speaker 5>and I'm excited to see where it goes.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sounds like you guys have a good time on
<v Speaker 3>there watching a couple episodes.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we do have a good time.
<v Speaker 5>We do, and we have fun with each other. I
<v Speaker 5>think that's the thing too, is it's interesting to do
<v Speaker 5>that with your partner because we learn stuff about each
<v Speaker 5>other and it's also for us time for us to communicate,
<v Speaker 5>you know what.
<v Speaker 4>She's saying that as a personal thing because normally I'm
<v Speaker 4>extremely quiet.
<v Speaker 2>I'm extremely quiet. No, I mean you're I am quiet,
<v Speaker 2>and I know that you are quiet.
<v Speaker 5>But it's which I love. I don't mind. But it
<v Speaker 5>is fun to come in with like a specific topic
<v Speaker 5>that we know we're going to dive into and just
<v Speaker 5>talk to each other for an hour.
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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting that you say you're quiet, because I've actually
<v Speaker 3>noticed that among several actors where it's like you wouldn't
<v Speaker 3>think that they're quiet or shy or anything like that.
<v Speaker 3>Tell me of this. If it's like this for you,
<v Speaker 3>do you feel like performing you kind of like get
<v Speaker 3>to express like this wild side of you, and that's
<v Speaker 3>like a medium of you to showcase that side of it.
<v Speaker 2>That's so well said.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe for me, I'm an introvert whose job is to
<v Speaker 4>be an extrovert.
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's just my job.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But it seems like you really enjoy it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do.
<v Speaker 4>I've been doing it for thirty eight years and thirty
<v Speaker 4>ninety so it's more of a that's just what I do,
<v Speaker 4>you know, So that's kind of hard. I enjoy it
<v Speaker 4>because I've done it for so long. But then I
<v Speaker 4>also am just doing stuff by route as well, like
<v Speaker 4>I know how to turn it on and then it's
<v Speaker 4>funny even in our five year marriage.
<v Speaker 2>She's like, you have so much energy when you go out,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, babe, do you want me or do
<v Speaker 2>you want Raven Simone.
<v Speaker 4>She's like, I want you and I'm like, okay, well
<v Speaker 4>then I'm a little bit introvert.
<v Speaker 2>This was at the beginning of our relationship.
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm more introverted, I think because I have
<v Speaker 4>to extrovert so much for work.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>But I also know people in the industry that are
<v Speaker 4>extrovert out and in all the time, I personally can't
<v Speaker 4>be friends with those people because I think that.
<v Speaker 2>It's a drain.
<v Speaker 4>It's work, and there's two sides of me, you know
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, Like I wouldn't be able to be
<v Speaker 4>that person. However, with what you said it the work
<v Speaker 4>that I do does help, you know, expel that extra
<v Speaker 4>energy that might come out that at home shows up
<v Speaker 4>as cleaning the entire house in four hours, you know
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, Or like being in my painting room
<v Speaker 4>and staying there for two days and just painting a
<v Speaker 4>whole bunch.
<v Speaker 5>But to me, knowing you, that's even a different person
<v Speaker 5>like Raven Simone that the world knows is there's such
<v Speaker 5>a distinct switch, and I can see the minute that
<v Speaker 5>she changes over into that mode. That's not even the
<v Speaker 5>person you get on our podcast or anything like that.
<v Speaker 5>The person that is getting energized when we go out.
<v Speaker 5>That's just like any one of us who can be
<v Speaker 5>energized in a new environment. That's just a normal human thing.
<v Speaker 5>I think when your brain truly switches to work mode.
<v Speaker 5>And there's even difference between director Raven and actor Raven
<v Speaker 5>and you know.
<v Speaker 2>Saying I have multiple personalities and that's okay.
<v Speaker 5>They're just like very clear and clean differences between And
<v Speaker 5>I think that I know some people who are very
<v Speaker 5>very one note, meaning like they're an actor and but
<v Speaker 5>they're completely the same person. And then there are some
<v Speaker 5>people who are much more layered, and that's closer to Raven.
<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Well my old choke was I'm schizophrenic and so am I.
<v Speaker 5>That's great.
<v Speaker 2>I love That's wonderful.
<v Speaker 1>I love them. Yeah, it's I always say, it's stuff
<v Speaker 1>you get me kicked out of class.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look at us making you money. Now, that's
<v Speaker 2>the thing, you know.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you got to look at the talent that
<v Speaker 4>is naturally oozing out of what we can condemn at
<v Speaker 4>some points, especially when their children, and instead of medicating
<v Speaker 4>or instead of you know, shunning them, it's like, where
<v Speaker 4>is what are you?
<v Speaker 2>What talent? Can we mold that.
<v Speaker 1>Into Yeah, you know that's a good question.
<v Speaker 2>I think that will help a lot in our younger people.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boy, yeah, I did not have that. They said, God,
<v Speaker 1>what's the matter with him? You know, I got a
<v Speaker 1>lot of that, and like this kid, huh Jesus Christ,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and Phoenix barbital. That was what they
<v Speaker 1>were getting. That was they had to give. I guess
<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, climbing there. I am now it
<v Speaker 1>was five years old. Come on, get down here. And
<v Speaker 1>because I was climbing the walls and doing crazy sounds
<v Speaker 1>and imitating all my aunts and uncles and and and
<v Speaker 1>some people thought that was funny. Some people thought that
<v Speaker 1>get barbarital.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and some people thought you were calling.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that is?
<v Speaker 1>Well it was apparently, but no, it was something to
<v Speaker 1>calm your ass down. Yeah, you know to he's hype.
<v Speaker 1>I used to get it was hyper. I was hyper.
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have a name for it.
<v Speaker 4>If you put kids like you at that time, if
<v Speaker 4>there was an outlet for theater if it wasn't so
<v Speaker 4>stigmatized slash in school systems. I was having a conversation
<v Speaker 4>with a mother recently, and she was saying that I
<v Speaker 4>don't want to use her words, and I know she's going
<v Speaker 4>to be out here in the world talking about it soon.
<v Speaker 4>But what I liked what she said was when you
<v Speaker 4>have a kid, you need to make sure that you
<v Speaker 4>give them an outlet. Some people go into football, some
<v Speaker 4>people go into baseball, and her child tried a lot
<v Speaker 4>of different things, but the only thing that stuck was theater.
<v Speaker 5>And a lot of times boys are so overlooked, meaning
<v Speaker 5>people see really really energized boys and then they just
<v Speaker 5>want to say, oh, you have ADHD and let me
<v Speaker 5>sit you down. That was me, yeah, And so for example,
<v Speaker 5>my mom ended up teaching English later in her life,
<v Speaker 5>and she would be teaching these middle school boys and
<v Speaker 5>of course the theater woman and my mother was loving
<v Speaker 5>this and having so much fun. But she was like,
<v Speaker 5>my boys couldn't sit still, and my girls were fine
<v Speaker 5>sitting still, but she would have the boys just stand up.
<v Speaker 5>She's like, we're gonna read this book, but stand up,
<v Speaker 5>move around, play with the words. How does this make
<v Speaker 5>you feel and all of a sudden they were interested
<v Speaker 5>in reading and they were engaged and they had play
<v Speaker 5>with it. And I think that if people were able
<v Speaker 5>to take a little bit more time to kind of
<v Speaker 5>recognize the individual or see what people needed, kids.
<v Speaker 1>Needed, it would channel it.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it could change channel it somewhere. And it's not
<v Speaker 5>it's not always about just like someone who can follow
<v Speaker 5>direction and stay in line and do what is meant
<v Speaker 5>to be done between the school hours of nine to
<v Speaker 5>three or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, they are trying to train sheep. I mean
<v Speaker 2>that is you know, they don't really they don't really
<v Speaker 2>like wolves out here.
<v Speaker 5>This is true.
<v Speaker 4>And it's sad because you're right, I wish they did
<v Speaker 4>do that more. But they're looking to see how well
<v Speaker 4>you can just fall in line, Like you said, it's sad.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very very few guests on this show went to college,
<v Speaker 3>you know, had like a formal education. A lot of
<v Speaker 3>entertainers just doesn't really seem to match up quite.
<v Speaker 2>So I went to college, you did, I did.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that.
<v Speaker 2>I went to college. I went to the art school.
<v Speaker 2>I have a fine art degree, so'm I paint wow?
<v Speaker 4>And I did that right before right after Broadway, and
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I hate this industry. I'm getting out.
<v Speaker 4>And I retired for like three years and I got
<v Speaker 4>a degree.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what brought you to that point of saying I
<v Speaker 3>want to get out?
<v Speaker 2>We don't have enough time on this podcast?
<v Speaker 1>Or should we say who brought you?
<v Speaker 3>Like?
<v Speaker 1>You know what if I have to put up with
<v Speaker 1>one more day with this a hole?
<v Speaker 3>You know?
<v Speaker 1>I mean because there our.
<v Speaker 2>List is too long. Oh, the industry is too big?
<v Speaker 3>And how old were you in this time?
<v Speaker 2>Twenty something?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>The fact about Raven is is that if Raven wasn't
<v Speaker 5>put in this industry, I am ninety nine percent confident
<v Speaker 5>that she would not be in this industry. And there
<v Speaker 5>are some people who are just obsessed with it and
<v Speaker 5>want to be in it, like me where I was
<v Speaker 5>like watching from the sidelines and saw what my dad
<v Speaker 5>did and I was like, I want to do that
<v Speaker 5>and love the magic of a set and just I
<v Speaker 5>mean being at Warner Brothers as a kid was my
<v Speaker 5>happiest moment. Anytime I could get there, I was there
<v Speaker 5>and it didn't matter what I was doing.
<v Speaker 3>Let's the exact same way growing up.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's certain way to go to set exactly. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>and some of us just have that, and then others
<v Speaker 5>of us just want to be somewhere else. And I
<v Speaker 5>think Raven has like those passions and interests that really
<v Speaker 5>would put you in an art studio, like you don't
<v Speaker 5>want to paint, you would want science and space and
<v Speaker 5>things like that. So I think it's also interesting to
<v Speaker 5>be put in something right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I found a passion now.
<v Speaker 4>I remember when I left Broadway, I would look myself
<v Speaker 4>in there and be like, you don't have passion for anything.
<v Speaker 4>And people started to ask me that question because I
<v Speaker 4>was older, and they were like, what's your passion? I'm
<v Speaker 4>like acting, but it's it's not true. So I had
<v Speaker 4>to leave. I went to school found a version of passion,
<v Speaker 4>which was creating. And now I can look and somebody
<v Speaker 4>can ask me that, and I can say, you know,
<v Speaker 4>even though I told my parents that when I was
<v Speaker 4>younger that I can do what Rudy can do, what
<v Speaker 4>I think I was actually saying was I want to
<v Speaker 4>I want to mold what Rudy did, meaning.
<v Speaker 2>I want to direct.
<v Speaker 4>I love creating the picture, which is what I learned
<v Speaker 4>in art school. I love composition. I love being able
<v Speaker 4>to fix problems. I'm really good at problem solving and
<v Speaker 4>tasking and I found that out through the acting journey.
<v Speaker 4>So I know that that journey that I had that.
<v Speaker 2>Was tumultuous and traumatic, brought me.
<v Speaker 4>To a place now to where I can be like action.
<v Speaker 4>I know exactly what needs to happen. I know what
<v Speaker 4>the light's doing, I know what the actors need to do.
<v Speaker 4>I know how to schmooze the suits. But I don't
<v Speaker 4>need to be in front at the camera. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>I will be in the future. But it's more things
<v Speaker 4>that I want to do, not because I have to
<v Speaker 4>do them right right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's nice.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good place to be.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it took a long time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it took a while.
<v Speaker 3>What kind of stuff do you like to direct, specifically,
<v Speaker 3>like comedy drama?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I do sitcom so that comedy I
<v Speaker 4>really like.
<v Speaker 2>I like directing drama.
<v Speaker 4>I like artistic pieces, I think because I.
<v Speaker 2>Watch more of that. I'm a comedy snob.
<v Speaker 4>So until Jim Carrey wants to come back into the
<v Speaker 4>fold flit an Adam Sandler, then I don't care.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like that person. I'm like, where is Adventurer Seven?
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing it acting and directing.
<v Speaker 5>It was so fun.
<v Speaker 2>It'll be so good. But that's like my that's the
<v Speaker 2>way that I was raised. So yeah, I like drama.
<v Speaker 4>I like we're venturing into a lot of different things,
<v Speaker 4>but I want to go into the things that I
<v Speaker 4>watched that are on my queue, that are like I
<v Speaker 4>love like she said, I love science.
<v Speaker 2>So we just watched Interstellar with her mom over our
<v Speaker 2>vacation and I was just.
<v Speaker 5>Like, yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's a great movie.
<v Speaker 2>So good lift go yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>What happened to sitcoms? What happened?
<v Speaker 2>I have a theory.
<v Speaker 3>I bet you did. I want to hear it.
<v Speaker 4>My theory about sitcoms is it's twofold. Well there's threefolds. Actually,
<v Speaker 4>writing changed because some people did sitcoms cheaper, and then
<v Speaker 4>everyone saw that it could be done cheaper, and therefore
<v Speaker 4>the trickle came down and sitcoms didn't didn't keep its
<v Speaker 4>place of showcasing actual family situations to help further society. Right,
<v Speaker 4>there was a time when sitcoms just stopped and became
<v Speaker 4>the boom bumps and the oh yeah man, instead of
<v Speaker 4>this is you know, a goodness gracious, some loose Archie
<v Speaker 4>Bunker or The Cosby or even Good Times Red Fox,
<v Speaker 4>where you were dealing with social commentary and these comedians
<v Speaker 4>and comedians it circled around their comedy and pushed out
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. Now you can get a
<v Speaker 4>sitcom and yeah there's comedians, but it's.
<v Speaker 2>Like, where's that umph?
<v Speaker 4>And also here's the third fold s and p our.
<v Speaker 4>Society has really created a barrier of speaking the truth
<v Speaker 4>in an authentic way that they did back in the day.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, all in the Family, they had an episode
<v Speaker 4>about rape for goodness sake, so you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 4>you had real family conversations on The Cosby Show. You know,
<v Speaker 4>you had even Seinfeld just a show about nothing. You know,
<v Speaker 4>I dare somebody to do that right now with a
<v Speaker 4>brand new comedian that just got off of TikTok.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. Like, it's really it's different.
<v Speaker 5>I think the laugh track.
<v Speaker 3>Killed Big Bang Theory. Yeah, Big Bang Theory?
<v Speaker 2>Did you love it? Cool? Moving on?
<v Speaker 5>That was a huge show.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't watch it. I couldn't watch it.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but that was massively successful.
<v Speaker 4>But again it's because it fit. It hit all the molds,
<v Speaker 4>but it was just not the soul.
<v Speaker 3>When you started describing that, that was the first show
<v Speaker 3>that came to my mind.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, yeah, it was a coldness to that show.
<v Speaker 1>It felt formulaic. You be this guy, you be the
<v Speaker 1>sidekicker sort of, and you you guys over here, can
<v Speaker 1>you Let's let's put him in a weird ass sweater everything,
<v Speaker 1>and he'll.
<v Speaker 3>Be every sweater guy.
<v Speaker 1>Then we need some foreigner. How about a guy from
<v Speaker 1>oh perfect? This guy you know that guy who I sorry,
<v Speaker 1>whoever you are. You're really great actor, though, though.
<v Speaker 4>You it just became tropes and stereotypes of what sitcoms.
<v Speaker 2>Used to be.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think, in my personal opinion, I think cartoons
<v Speaker 3>kind of pushed in a lot too, like adult cartoons.
<v Speaker 3>You know, you get the Simpsons, the Rick and Mortis,
<v Speaker 3>the American Dad family guy, and that kind of like
<v Speaker 3>took over into the sitcom space south Park. You know,
<v Speaker 3>these shows have been going for thirty years, Yeah, literally
<v Speaker 3>thirty years and around like probably within the first decade
<v Speaker 3>of that run is probably. And that's my theory is
<v Speaker 3>like the cartoons really kind of took over that space.
<v Speaker 5>You're right, I think you're right. It's interesting because we
<v Speaker 5>talk about this a lot, and we have a production
<v Speaker 5>company and we are always kind of you know, idea generating,
<v Speaker 5>and one of the things that we are committed to
<v Speaker 5>kind of bringing back is a really good sitcom. And
<v Speaker 5>I mean this is sitcom Royalty, Like she is the
<v Speaker 5>Queen of the multicamp. So it's like we got to
<v Speaker 5>figure it out, you know, we know people would love it.
<v Speaker 5>But I think you're absolutely right about the cartoon element.
<v Speaker 5>And I don't know what else. We watched The mat
<v Speaker 5>About You pilot not that long ago, the original, and
<v Speaker 5>it's just so good and as somebody who writes on
<v Speaker 5>occasion but is also you know, I produce, I was
<v Speaker 5>watching it. I'm like, what what is it? Or even
<v Speaker 5>going back and watching what it was, but even watching
<v Speaker 5>some of that so raven, it's like you could net.
<v Speaker 5>It's like kids today are so different. They wouldn't even
<v Speaker 5>act this way. It's just like, I don't even know.
<v Speaker 2>We watered down, we got Yeah, it's.
<v Speaker 5>Just something is shifted and I don't I don't know
<v Speaker 5>the answer. I don't. The cartoon thing is new to me,
<v Speaker 5>and I think that's actually a very good answer. But
<v Speaker 5>I am constantly asking that question.
<v Speaker 4>And American Dad is a wonderful American Dad is a
<v Speaker 4>wonderful sitcom that took the sitcom. When you said that,
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh my god. That is a family
<v Speaker 4>dealing with issues, super funny point of view, not afraid.
<v Speaker 2>Pushing the envelope, you know, and writing killer, writing experimental.
<v Speaker 4>And I will say there is one sitcom that I
<v Speaker 4>am actually a part of, and I.
<v Speaker 2>Will boast as everybody should watch.
<v Speaker 5>I know, say it.
<v Speaker 4>The Miss Patch Show. The Miss Pat Show is taking
<v Speaker 4>those risks. She is going out on the limb. And
<v Speaker 4>I've seen her work and I respect her work.
<v Speaker 3>Where do we watch that on b et?
<v Speaker 4>Plus the reason I respect her work is because I
<v Speaker 4>saw her in the writer's room and the writers. I
<v Speaker 4>love you guys, you know I love you, but I
<v Speaker 4>gotta call you it really fast. They will do a
<v Speaker 4>joke and she's like, I heard that joke on three
<v Speaker 4>other shows.
<v Speaker 2>Do it again. And then they try again. She's like,
<v Speaker 2>I heard that joke on two other shows. Do it again.
<v Speaker 4>She will do it, and we if you watch sitcoms,
<v Speaker 4>the same jokes get done over and over again. She
<v Speaker 4>refuses to do it, and she pushes that envelope every
<v Speaker 4>single episode, and those the entire casting crew are working
<v Speaker 4>so hard to create originality.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's got to be harder than ever to
<v Speaker 3>write jokes these days. I mean, like even for comedians,
<v Speaker 3>like you know, you don't you have to put your
<v Speaker 3>jokes out there. You have to keep coming up. You
<v Speaker 3>don't get like a tight five and go tour around
<v Speaker 3>and nobody knows, you know, like you have to put
<v Speaker 3>that on TikTok and social media and then okay, now
<v Speaker 3>I got to get some new jokes and that's gonna
<v Speaker 3>get taken by this streamer and blah blah blah, and
<v Speaker 3>it's gotta be tough.
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be tough.
<v Speaker 4>And I think people like Miss Pat and that and
<v Speaker 4>that and that whole crew what they're doing too. And
<v Speaker 4>to me, a joke is really simple. If you look
<v Speaker 4>at the scenario that a great character is in, you
<v Speaker 4>got a joke because it's a situational comedy, you know
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. It's this is not a one two
<v Speaker 4>three punch, This is a raven Baxter is in the
<v Speaker 4>middle of a bowl of soup.
<v Speaker 2>Go, you know what I mean, Like, that's stupid, but
<v Speaker 2>you laughed and there was that you said, that's period.
<v Speaker 3>We're looking for.
<v Speaker 5>It's that simple. And when you have a great character,
<v Speaker 5>that's and that's what has been kind of fun, you know,
<v Speaker 5>working on some of the projects that we have and
<v Speaker 5>that Raven is attached to acting and we have another
<v Speaker 5>really fantastic actor attached and it's kind of like these
<v Speaker 5>two walk into a dental office say less period, like
<v Speaker 5>you know, you know what I mean, funny, you're goodxactly.
<v Speaker 2>Because it's about the situation.
<v Speaker 5>But that's a gift to have actors that are that
<v Speaker 5>skilled that they know how to then fall into their
<v Speaker 5>craft and make us laugh. That's that's you don't find
<v Speaker 5>that today either really, you know what I mean, Or
<v Speaker 5>it's not people aren't being bred or taught how to
<v Speaker 5>do that.
<v Speaker 2>You're definitely not being taught.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're making soup, you got to have the
<v Speaker 1>right ingredients and that's what they are exactly. That's what's
<v Speaker 1>up definitely.
<v Speaker 5>And that's like you were saying earlier, the lightning and
<v Speaker 5>a bottle element, you know, like so hard, it's so
<v Speaker 5>hard to find that, but when you have it, you
<v Speaker 5>know it everyone feels that energy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's great.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, jeez, this is quite a seminar. We're getting here, Hollywood,
<v Speaker 1>appreciate this.
<v Speaker 5>I think it's no.
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, good, well, it's interesting. You know, we're talking about
<v Speaker 3>things transforming and everything. And obviously, Jim, you can attest that.
<v Speaker 3>Attest to that as well with how animation has changed
<v Speaker 3>over the years, you know what I mean, animation itself
<v Speaker 3>has changed, even how it's recorded.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I missed the days it used to be.
<v Speaker 1>It was more like a sitcom, you know we do.
<v Speaker 1>We were doing Dark Wing Duck and a lot of
<v Speaker 1>the Winny the Poos.
<v Speaker 2>And it was Dark Wing Duck.
<v Speaker 1>Yea, keep going, oh look what am I going to
<v Speaker 1>do with you? But but it was everybody that was
<v Speaker 1>in the room. And I always said that acting is reacting. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's and and when and then of course
<v Speaker 1>COVID forget about it. Nobody there was no such thing
<v Speaker 1>as an ensemble. No, no, indeed no, you had to.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, some of them they were so stupid. Can
<v Speaker 1>you wait in the car? Okay? I get no. Actually,
<v Speaker 1>now that you ask, no, I'm gonna be sitting copping
<v Speaker 1>a squat and reading these ten year old national geographics, and.
<v Speaker 3>Exactly I have to jump in and tell a story
<v Speaker 3>about this time here we go because it was like, honestly,
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite times in LA was during the
<v Speaker 3>pandemic working in show business because it was just so
<v Speaker 3>hilariously inconsistent. They paid you to get COVID tested, so
<v Speaker 3>I was getting tested every day. I was okay bringing that.
<v Speaker 3>It was like sixty bucks every time you got really yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and you have to get tested in the morning and
<v Speaker 3>when you left work wrong. My favorite thing, my favorite
<v Speaker 3>I was doing like background work, that's audience work. And
<v Speaker 3>my favorite thing though, and I spread it to all
<v Speaker 3>my friends was game shows because game shows had like
<v Speaker 3>ten people on them and they all had to be
<v Speaker 3>from LA. They weren't flying anybody in, so I was like, gods,
<v Speaker 3>you're guaranteed to win, Like hilarious, I know the casting
<v Speaker 3>agent for the prices rasm like, let's go on this
<v Speaker 3>and I want a trip to Thailand, Like yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>remember that got a far huge, big screen TV. My
<v Speaker 3>friends didn't believe me. I was like, guys, like literally,
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you the casting agent's email, like you send
<v Speaker 3>a picture and you'll go on. They have to have
<v Speaker 3>like there's a dozen of you there, and they bring
<v Speaker 3>up ten people on stage.
<v Speaker 2>That's wow, Like if.
<v Speaker 3>You have absolutely no personality whatsoever, you're gonna be one
<v Speaker 3>of the two people not called up, like hike yourself
<v Speaker 3>up for a day.
<v Speaker 2>That's How was the Thailand trip?
<v Speaker 3>It was great? It was great. I went with my sister.
<v Speaker 5>When did you you want it in twenty twenty? But
<v Speaker 5>when did you have to wait to go?
<v Speaker 3>It was like a year?
<v Speaker 5>Okay, that's fantastic.
<v Speaker 3>Fantastic, Yeah, twenty grand too. It was on a let's
<v Speaker 3>make it deal with Wayne Braden.
<v Speaker 5>You're totally manifesting the next COVID. I can see this.
<v Speaker 2>I want this time back. She too, don't worry, Yeah
<v Speaker 2>she was.
<v Speaker 3>I got my sister on there. But yeah, it was.
<v Speaker 3>It was great. It was great. It was a really
<v Speaker 3>fun time and it was like your and then the
<v Speaker 3>the just the cap off this story was hilarious because
<v Speaker 3>they'd always be like, okay, when you say where you're from,
<v Speaker 3>like say where you like born or like something, because
<v Speaker 3>they don't want everybody like from Los Angeles, from Los Angeles,
<v Speaker 3>from Los Angeles from it just like makes like do
<v Speaker 3>you do you have like relatives in Phoenix? Like you're
<v Speaker 3>from Phoenix?
<v Speaker 5>Have you ever been to New York. You're from there.
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Hollywood people. That's a great story.
<v Speaker 5>It's so funny.
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, covid was wild in this industry.
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. We used to say, you can't catch COVID on camera.
<v Speaker 3>Everybody has their mask on rolling. Okay, that's what.
<v Speaker 5>Got the double standard was wild.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it was crazy.
<v Speaker 4>My favorite was having to take a picture with people
<v Speaker 4>and just holding people holding their breath.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't think that's how it works. I
<v Speaker 2>don't think that holding your breath is gonna help it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's only gonna glass just so long. And
<v Speaker 1>you know the most absurd thing was, you know, I down,
<v Speaker 1>I just do voiceover. So you have to wear a
<v Speaker 1>mask when you're in the lobby. You had to wear
<v Speaker 1>a mask walking down the hall. Now here's the engineer.
<v Speaker 1>He's doing this. Okay, take your mask off. How does
<v Speaker 1>COVID know that I've got a microphone?
<v Speaker 2>Right?
<v Speaker 3>How does it know.
<v Speaker 2>No condoms on the microphone?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>What the hell it was? So we're okay now, oh wait,
<v Speaker 1>but if I get up and go to the bathroom,
<v Speaker 1>I could be spreading the hell out of it.
<v Speaker 5>We did something where Raven was announcing, and again, so
<v Speaker 5>many protocols, like I had to get special permission to
<v Speaker 5>even come as he plus one, We had to wear
<v Speaker 5>masks the whole time, we had to take our tests. Okay,
<v Speaker 5>we get there and there's like twenty thirty people who
<v Speaker 5>are all part of this presenting situation, and I'm standing there.
<v Speaker 5>I was very germophobic during COVID. It really kicked it
<v Speaker 5>up at me. But I was very aware of watching
<v Speaker 5>where everyone's hands would go and whatever. Twenty to maybe
<v Speaker 5>thirty people are all sharing this one mic. Every single
<v Speaker 5>one of them is just and I'm watching people. I
<v Speaker 5>kid you not, I won't do it to this mic
<v Speaker 5>because I'm respectful, but they were clips to the mic.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah people do that, yes, and they would hand it
<v Speaker 5>to the next person handed it and I said, I
<v Speaker 5>was like, you get that mic. You better you know,
<v Speaker 5>like wipe it down because I've seen like thirty people
<v Speaker 5>lick it, but you had it. And I was like,
<v Speaker 5>and then spit on it, and they and all the
<v Speaker 5>steps that it took for me to sit in the
<v Speaker 5>back with a mask on, not talk to anyone, look
<v Speaker 5>at anyone, to just be here, and I was like,
<v Speaker 5>this is this is insane.
<v Speaker 2>I remember when it first happened.
<v Speaker 4>I got called from I got a call from the
<v Speaker 4>head of the network and he was like, Raven, you know,
<v Speaker 4>are you going to be okay with this? And I
<v Speaker 4>was like, I don't know. He's like, I just got
<v Speaker 4>I just got swabbed and they stick it all the
<v Speaker 4>way up to your brain handle that I was like.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm not coming to set. And then by the
<v Speaker 2>time we got to.
<v Speaker 4>Set, it was lower and lower than it was the
<v Speaker 4>mouth then it was not I got COVID twice once
<v Speaker 4>from set and then once all.
<v Speaker 2>Day I had it. I had it once was you
<v Speaker 2>know it was what it was.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know.
<v Speaker 2>I know, really, I didn't even know.
<v Speaker 1>I just thought I felt like sleeping, okay, and uh,
<v Speaker 1>and I went to the doctor and he said, uh, well,
<v Speaker 1>and this is like way or a long time ago.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I was the first guy. Maybe that's my.
<v Speaker 6>Fault, but zero zero, that's my doctor was kind of cool,
<v Speaker 6>and I just told him myself, well, I feel like
<v Speaker 6>I felt kind of fleming and kind of.
<v Speaker 1>Goes, oh, you've got the latest import from our friends
<v Speaker 1>in Wuhan, China. Oh my god, what he goes, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you got the you got the Wuhan They called it
<v Speaker 1>the Wuhuan because.
<v Speaker 2>That was super early.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it was in February. You were calling
<v Speaker 5>it the China virus. That was the first week exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh apparently there was a school of thought
<v Speaker 1>that they, the Chinese, were trying to screw us, and
<v Speaker 1>so let's get them all sick. Yeah you know. And
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't work because I didn't. I mean, and
<v Speaker 1>I was so sick. I didn't know I was sick.
<v Speaker 1>That's how sick I was.
<v Speaker 5>I go ahead, yeah, double things. I went to New
<v Speaker 5>York in January of twenty twenty, and as I was leaving,
<v Speaker 5>the person driving the car was like, oh, look at this,
<v Speaker 5>this is crazy, And the other people in the car
<v Speaker 5>were kind of like, oh, no, that doesn't mean anything.
<v Speaker 5>Got back to Los Angeles and February. First week of February,
<v Speaker 5>I was so sick, and in my head I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 5>it's just you know, a flu. Yeah, it's just a flu. No.
<v Speaker 5>It was definitely not as sick as I had ever been,
<v Speaker 5>but we didn't know anything about it at that point,
<v Speaker 5>so I was okay. Few months. I mean, by March,
<v Speaker 5>everyone was hysterical, and I think, goodness I didn't get
<v Speaker 5>it then because I probably would have ended up in
<v Speaker 5>the hospital just out of share anxiety, because I felt like, oh,
<v Speaker 5>oh gosh, yeah, sure, sure, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Those were wild times. Wild.
<v Speaker 4>Can you believe that it's only been five years and
<v Speaker 4>we're just now starting to like rise, not even like
<v Speaker 4>I still feel like our industry is trying to get
<v Speaker 4>back on its feet, like it really broke.
<v Speaker 3>Really dragging their feet though, because they love doing everything
<v Speaker 3>from home. I swear.
<v Speaker 5>Everyone loves you guys.
<v Speaker 3>You have a tripod and set up a ring light
<v Speaker 3>and film yourself on a blank wall. Actually order one
<v Speaker 3>of these green screens from Amazon. Do it all yourself yourself,
<v Speaker 3>teach yourself how to be an engineer.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, exactly, yeah, and then yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Getting no notes on anything.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so true, no notes, and then all the
<v Speaker 4>money depleted, and now we're having a problem getting stuff made.
<v Speaker 4>Smaller things can't get made. It's it's it was a
<v Speaker 4>real flip of the industry.
<v Speaker 3>Was really weird. And just going back to you, that
<v Speaker 3>just made me think of another thing I was thinking
<v Speaker 3>about on the drive in this morning, was you've you've
<v Speaker 3>been in the industry thirty years. Yeah, thirty plus, thirty
<v Speaker 3>plus plus, so and you're still in your thirties, which
<v Speaker 3>is crazy.
<v Speaker 1>She's twin she's twenty eight. That's That's the thing that
<v Speaker 1>I will say.
<v Speaker 2>One thing I love to say my age.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, because one, females in this industry need to
<v Speaker 4>be okay with saying there.
<v Speaker 1>Age, that's right.
<v Speaker 2>Two I look good for my age now period.
<v Speaker 4>And three, im, I'll be forty this year and I've
<v Speaker 4>been in the industry for thirty nine years.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So I always say my age. You'll never not
<v Speaker 2>see me.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no, that's perfect.
<v Speaker 3>But being in that you've seen so many changes within
<v Speaker 3>the industry. I mean like literally, I would say there's
<v Speaker 3>been like three major shifts in that time. That's definitely
<v Speaker 3>three major shifts. So what's that been like for you
<v Speaker 3>as a performer adjusting to those shifts?
<v Speaker 4>It's been a mess, you know, very very clunky with
<v Speaker 4>each level up. I guess you can kind of call
<v Speaker 4>it the first shift for me and I hope we're
<v Speaker 4>on the same What are your three shifts?
<v Speaker 2>What do you think they are? And I'll tell you
<v Speaker 2>what I think they are.
<v Speaker 3>I think I think somewhere like probably right around when
<v Speaker 3>you were a child, it was kind of shifting. It
<v Speaker 3>was kind of shifting. Then I'm not really sure how,
<v Speaker 3>but it was. And then I think prominently like in
<v Speaker 3>the I want to say, like the early two thousands. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>like there was like a major shift, it felt like.
<v Speaker 3>And then I would say the third one is the
<v Speaker 3>major shift back to like political correctness. And then I
<v Speaker 3>think we're starting to once again experience another one that'll
<v Speaker 3>probably fully solidify like by the end of the decade
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion.
<v Speaker 4>Interesting, Okay, so my brain went to these shifts digital, Instagram, TikTok,
<v Speaker 4>social media.
<v Speaker 2>And then streaming.
<v Speaker 3>I would completely agree. And that kind of coincides.
<v Speaker 5>With the data emerging all of this mergers that end
<v Speaker 5>up buying different companies like Studio Power, Yes, Amazon totally.
<v Speaker 4>So being in the industry during those three milestones of
<v Speaker 4>technology growth and Hollywood growth have, like I said, been
<v Speaker 4>very clunky, you know, having to live in a world
<v Speaker 4>where or the National Inquirer and the Star was our
<v Speaker 4>version of the comments section and not. At that time,
<v Speaker 4>it was moral and virtuous not to touch people under
<v Speaker 4>the age of eighteen. They didn't really talk about anybody
<v Speaker 4>under the age of eighteen unless you were Brookshields or
<v Speaker 4>something like that that kind of put themselves, that had
<v Speaker 4>themselves put out there like that. And then I was like, okay, cool,
<v Speaker 4>I understood Papa Rozzi. It was very calm for me
<v Speaker 4>because again I was under the age of eighteen.
<v Speaker 5>Now.
<v Speaker 4>Then TVO came and you can start recording things and
<v Speaker 4>seeing them over and over again. If you wanted to
<v Speaker 4>see something over you had to record it yourself, or
<v Speaker 4>you had to wait for the rerun later period or
<v Speaker 4>go to.
<v Speaker 2>Nick at night, you know what I mean. Then social media.
<v Speaker 4>I remember my first clunky thing was I was on
<v Speaker 4>video and I got a call from my team.
<v Speaker 2>They were like, what are you doing. You're talking about
<v Speaker 2>your real life. You're showing the inside of your home.
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing, and I'm like, I'll listen to
<v Speaker 4>you guys, but I'm letting you know right now something's happening,
<v Speaker 4>Like I if you really go back in the archives.
<v Speaker 4>I was actually on social media at the very beginning,
<v Speaker 4>and then I got off real quick because the people
<v Speaker 4>in my industry told me that I shouldn't do that,
<v Speaker 4>because the celebrity growth that I was taught was the
<v Speaker 4>more personal things they know, the less anonymity you have,
<v Speaker 4>and the less your star shines in the way that
<v Speaker 4>they blur the lines between personal and celebrity. And I
<v Speaker 4>was always taught, don't let them know who you're dating,
<v Speaker 4>don't let them know your personal life, all.
<v Speaker 2>That kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 4>And I remember that, and then you know, you have
<v Speaker 4>the Britney spears and people started to you know, kind
<v Speaker 4>of bleed out a little bit more. And then social
<v Speaker 4>media came in and it's like, oh, okay, now we
<v Speaker 4>have these people purely getting famous off of what they
<v Speaker 4>do personally. Now we have to fight with you don't
<v Speaker 4>want to know me because I'm playing a character and
<v Speaker 4>I'm not authentic enough for you. That's crazy is to
<v Speaker 4>worship that beforehand, and now anybody can be a celebrity.
<v Speaker 5>I also, anyone could be famous, you aren't.
<v Speaker 2>Anybody can be famous you are.
<v Speaker 5>There is a differentiation.
<v Speaker 2>You are correct, babes, you are correct. There's also the
<v Speaker 2>idea that.
<v Speaker 4>I have to do that now, like my personal life
<v Speaker 4>is necessary in order for the authentication station to say yes,
<v Speaker 4>you can continue working within comply merged.
<v Speaker 5>It's completely merged where it's like if you who are
<v Speaker 5>we talking to recently about, Oh, I know the new
<v Speaker 5>cast of SNL and that now they've they're bringing influencers
<v Speaker 5>into the cast of CNL. And why is that. It's
<v Speaker 5>because these people are writing skits, they are on TikTok
<v Speaker 5>doing their little bits. They're funny, they have massive audiences.
<v Speaker 5>So those suits know that when they hire this person
<v Speaker 5>and they bring them into this cast and I has,
<v Speaker 5>you know, massive name, it's a huge brand, it's very respected.
<v Speaker 5>Knowing now that you're going to see your favorite TikToker
<v Speaker 5>on SNL. I'm sure they're hoping we'll bring a younger
<v Speaker 5>audience and refresh you know what they've maybe lost.
<v Speaker 2>Over the years.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it will. Personally.
<v Speaker 5>I think that maybe is the hope though, because it's
<v Speaker 5>just you know what, I mean, and who knows if
<v Speaker 5>it will or won't work out. I also have you know,
<v Speaker 5>my doubt of our feels about it too. But I'm
<v Speaker 5>just saying the world in that way has really shifted.
<v Speaker 5>Influencers have incredible power, unbelievable.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Also, I also want to add on to that, which
<v Speaker 4>I was trying to say before kind of forgot, But
<v Speaker 4>I grew up in the world of.
<v Speaker 2>Gatekeepers.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you couldn't get in the industry without super talent,
<v Speaker 4>auditioning and making it through that first gate And obviously
<v Speaker 4>there was some.
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's my buddy, let them in.
<v Speaker 4>And while gatekeeping isn't the best, it's still hep celebrity
<v Speaker 4>and fame at a different level. Now there is no gatekeeping.
<v Speaker 4>You can collect a certain amount of followers no matter
<v Speaker 4>what you do, and now these big studios are like,
<v Speaker 4>that's who I want, and sometimes it's not.
<v Speaker 2>A one to one.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, the gatekeeping now is just the numbers of
<v Speaker 3>followers exactly totally.
<v Speaker 5>How many LI.
<v Speaker 3>Likes, especially dealing with like getting guests on the podcast.
<v Speaker 3>It's literally like they go, they see numbers, getting sponsorships,
<v Speaker 3>they go, they see numbers. You know, it's like just literally.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is the gatekeep now.
<v Speaker 4>So you know, like you said, I've seen a lot
<v Speaker 4>of different and I know you have as well, especially
<v Speaker 4>in the animation, And like, what in the world is
<v Speaker 4>going to happen next? We go so fast in society AI,
<v Speaker 4>we're fighting AI. Now the real people are going to
<v Speaker 4>be fighting a computer for a job.
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. What do you expect us to do?
<v Speaker 4>You have this whole world where you want us to
<v Speaker 4>consume everything you want, But how are we supposed to
<v Speaker 4>make the money to consume it?
<v Speaker 3>I have an idea for you, and it was brought
<v Speaker 3>up by a guest on this podcast. I forget who
<v Speaker 3>thought it was actor?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, child acting supers and a voice actor yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they said it was a woman though who
<v Speaker 3>said this? I can't remember who it was. It doesn't matter.
<v Speaker 3>They said, I wonder if there's going to be a
<v Speaker 3>rise in live performances because you can't AI a love performance.
<v Speaker 4>Well, it already happened. Look what's happening right now? Right
<v Speaker 4>now as we speak? We went back to forgive my years.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really do well in history class. But before television,
<v Speaker 4>there was the radio, the talkie podcasts. Podcasts are booming
<v Speaker 4>because a I can't do it, you want us.
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just repeating the cycle again.
<v Speaker 5>And that's also interesting too because I'm I'm sure this
<v Speaker 5>is not what they meant in saying that, because when
<v Speaker 5>you're saying live, I imagine you mean like with a
<v Speaker 5>live audience to theater. But Netflix has started an entire
<v Speaker 5>live branch. They have live shows. So they were doing
<v Speaker 5>Tyler Henry. He was a live show. They had the
<v Speaker 5>Poppet Balloon, which they took from YouTube. And so they
<v Speaker 5>are trying to integrate an entire live that's wing or
<v Speaker 5>of their of their Netflix.
<v Speaker 2>Netflix has taken over. Let's not for you.
<v Speaker 3>Netflix has taken oh yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember when Netflix used to send you a
<v Speaker 5>dvd ds?
<v Speaker 2>Did y'all steal from Netflix?
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Never?
<v Speaker 2>I never from Netflix, the like fifty bugs.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah I stole.
<v Speaker 2>So Mandy, I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't raving, Like, why are you banish?
<v Speaker 2>You can't do that.
<v Speaker 5>It's like not returning your vhs to it's.
<v Speaker 2>A blockbuster, guys, you've never done that. Books are the library,
<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you.
<v Speaker 5>You just forgot about it always.
<v Speaker 2>But I had so many good DVDs.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, those were the good old days. Good, we're
<v Speaker 3>in the good old days. Somebody going to say that
<v Speaker 3>about right now. Always, somebody is going to go up
<v Speaker 3>and say, these were the good old days.
<v Speaker 1>I always say that these are the good old days.
<v Speaker 1>All you need to do is add time. That's fair,
<v Speaker 1>Just just add time, and this will be right now.
<v Speaker 1>This will be the grandest freaking time ever. It's true
<v Speaker 1>right today. Yeah. And I've always told that to my kids.
<v Speaker 1>I said, don't don't forget, these are the good old days.
<v Speaker 1>And and and I guess I must have said it
<v Speaker 1>so much. My older daughter living, Yeah, you know what,
<v Speaker 1>you know what I live what? Yeah, I know, dad,
<v Speaker 1>these are the good old Let me guess these are
<v Speaker 1>the good old days. I go, well, yeah, damn it
<v Speaker 1>they are. You're twelve. You ain't gonna be twelve very.
<v Speaker 2>Long, honey, time is going so fat, happy days.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You guys think about we think think about having kids.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we think about it.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's we go back and forth.
<v Speaker 2>That was my answerment, Yeah, we think about it.
<v Speaker 1>I got it.
<v Speaker 3>She goes, oh, yeah, I've heard of kids.
<v Speaker 5>We know them, we know what they're like. It's it's
<v Speaker 5>so like little people only smaller with runny noses and
<v Speaker 5>like they're over they're so sticky when.
<v Speaker 1>You get a little older, go right to grandkids, your recommendation.
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't recommend grandkids highly enough. Only have
<v Speaker 1>the one and he beats the hell out of my kids.
<v Speaker 2>I love that.
<v Speaker 5>How many kids do you have?
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've got four daughters on my own. Wow and
<v Speaker 1>uh and uh, and none of them are having kids.
<v Speaker 5>So okay, I think it's okay.
<v Speaker 1>I guess you know.
<v Speaker 5>I still could.
<v Speaker 1>I can't do squat about it.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah they could, yeah, just some some people have kids
<v Speaker 5>a little later. I think that it will be our
<v Speaker 5>late bloomers kind of.
<v Speaker 2>We have a restic development.
<v Speaker 3>They're just millennials in general. You're millennial. Yeah, yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>think we're just having kids older.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah we can though, Yeah, like we want to live life.
<v Speaker 4>We're still trying to get over the traumatic experience from
<v Speaker 4>our childhood, and then we'll get into it because we
<v Speaker 4>know how important it is to heal before you have.
<v Speaker 3>They keep throwing disasters at us, the economic crashes, and
<v Speaker 3>then there's a lockdown and then some towers fall down,
<v Speaker 3>and it's like whoa.
<v Speaker 5>Whoa, whoa, Ye, yeah you have no time, and that's
<v Speaker 5>what we kind of talk about, is what does this
<v Speaker 5>world look like and do we want to bring a
<v Speaker 5>kid into it? Right now? It just feels overwhelming. But
<v Speaker 5>we're all going to end up being labeled geriatric. We're
<v Speaker 5>all going to have jered pregancy because if you have
<v Speaker 5>a baby passage of thirty five, you're geriatric.
<v Speaker 4>I'm geriatric you very much, so they can go kiss me, Jerry,
<v Speaker 4>you're geriatric pregnant.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that doesn't No, it.
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't sound I don't even look jeriatric.
<v Speaker 3>When you had your first kid, Jim.
<v Speaker 1>A long time ago, it was thirty twenty twenty seven
<v Speaker 1>or man maybe twenty eightish.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. See, nowadays that's like young.
<v Speaker 3>Y yeah yeah, yeah, true, true, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Well you know, I want to get it out of
<v Speaker 1>the way.
<v Speaker 5>Smart.
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I feel that way that I wish I had
<v Speaker 4>somebody younger, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 2>I wish that. But then now that I'm married and
<v Speaker 2>like that you had somebody. Yeah, No, I wish that
<v Speaker 2>I had. I wish that I had a child younger.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I meant. Sorry about that.
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually very happy with you, babes. I don't know
<v Speaker 4>anybody I didn't.
<v Speaker 5>Take it personally in that sense. It just was a
<v Speaker 5>funny way to say, like I wish I had somebody younger. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it.
<v Speaker 4>Keep me on my toes, but I do wish sometimes
<v Speaker 4>that I had a kid when I was younger. But
<v Speaker 4>then now looking at life, and we had somebody on
<v Speaker 4>our podcast that said something really really inspirational. It's like
<v Speaker 4>it's a lifestyle change. You have to be ready for
<v Speaker 4>a different lifestyle.
<v Speaker 3>It really changes the ship out of people.
<v Speaker 4>Oh boy, especially the women who have to have it.
<v Speaker 4>The hormones are different. I asked my mom.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Mom, have you always been a worry
<v Speaker 2>ward She was like, nope, not until you popped out.
<v Speaker 2>I never had any of these problems.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, that gotcha.
<v Speaker 5>Well we have too many. We have too much room
<v Speaker 5>to overthink it, you know what I mean, Because, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>when you're in a gay relationship, like you were missing
<v Speaker 5>something very necessary to a baby.
<v Speaker 4>Listen, yeah, but we missing nothing.
<v Speaker 5>We don't have sperm.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you just mean like hormonally, like testosterone make.
<v Speaker 5>It up to make a baby.
<v Speaker 3>Right. So, like you were just talking about a relationship.
<v Speaker 5>I think you were talking about you and your town
<v Speaker 5>got together and did sm.
<v Speaker 1>Class.
<v Speaker 5>Now taking you from your teachers.
<v Speaker 7>See the oven as the sperm swims into the Yeah, see.
<v Speaker 1>His little tail wigle exactly.
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<v Speaker 5>So I'm saying we're missing that. So we have all
<v Speaker 5>of this extra time time to sit here and be
<v Speaker 5>like we do we do we not? Whereas people who
<v Speaker 5>have everything that they need to make a baby can
<v Speaker 5>just kind of like, whoopsie, well.
<v Speaker 2>What happened on accident?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're gonna start trying now and see what happens.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And I think it's a good and a bad thing though,
<v Speaker 4>because we can really set our life up to prepare
<v Speaker 4>for that moment, and no one is the right time
<v Speaker 4>for us.
<v Speaker 2>But then at the same time, we.
<v Speaker 4>Were taking too long because we're like, well not now,
<v Speaker 4>We'll wait till next year.
<v Speaker 2>When we saw that show.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's why God invented adoption. Nobody gets stretch marks.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that you said that you have no
<v Speaker 2>stretch marks.
<v Speaker 4>Because of that, you're missing you're missing the.
<v Speaker 1>Then I stopped and thought, wait, yeah, I kind of.
<v Speaker 5>I love that you adopted.
<v Speaker 2>Why did you choose to adopt me? Ask?
<v Speaker 1>Uh, well, yeah, it was with my second wife and
<v Speaker 1>we were trying. We were trying to say, yea, let's
<v Speaker 1>let's have some kids, and it wasn't working. She couldn't
<v Speaker 1>turned out she couldn't conceive, and and it was interesting
<v Speaker 1>because we we adopted and uh one our first little
<v Speaker 1>girl was was a black girl, and the second one
<v Speaker 1>we thought her mother said well, we thought, well we
<v Speaker 1>better get somebody kind of looks like it. And uh
<v Speaker 1>the second mother was a white girl who thought she
<v Speaker 1>was pregnant with a black guy. So we're going, oh,
<v Speaker 1>well that'll be good. And then it comes to my
<v Speaker 1>second one and they go, who's this little Caucasian little
<v Speaker 1>thing here? What the hell you lied to us? Damn it,
<v Speaker 1>you know what? But but she was I think we
<v Speaker 1>did her test or genetic test, and she's ninety three
<v Speaker 1>percent French, and she's and she's got this, and she's
<v Speaker 1>got perfect skin. I mean she's like golden. I mean she.
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't look like she's like my color peak stuff. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cute as a bud, beautiful. Yeah, So I mean
<v Speaker 1>it worked out.
<v Speaker 3>When you were growing up, did you consume Disney television
<v Speaker 3>or was it like if you're so any, you were like,
<v Speaker 3>you don't really watch.
<v Speaker 4>When I was younger, I was in the okay, let
<v Speaker 4>me do the age brackets. Before I turned thirteen, I
<v Speaker 4>wantatched a lot of Nick at Night, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network. Sure,
<v Speaker 4>and then when I started working on Disney Channel, I
<v Speaker 4>watched the L word.
<v Speaker 2>I was watching the L word. I was watching a
<v Speaker 2>lot of movies. Rain Man was my.
<v Speaker 4>Movie, to be honest with you, I watched that all
<v Speaker 4>the time. And then I was always a big drama
<v Speaker 4>movie watcher. And then after I left Disney, I am honey,
<v Speaker 4>I watch the spectrum I call bad movie Mondays, which
<v Speaker 4>is all the movies I get two Rotten Tomatoes.
<v Speaker 2>And down and all of that. So yeah, I've never
<v Speaker 2>really I didn't really watch Disney. I wasn't. I watched
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Disney movies like Lion King was the
<v Speaker 2>one and things like that.
<v Speaker 3>But you know Jim did the singing scar yeah, and
<v Speaker 3>the Lion King.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was saying, be prepared. The villain's always get
<v Speaker 1>the good.
<v Speaker 2>Song, such a good song.
<v Speaker 4>Did you go to the Hollywood Bowl? I saw Jeremy
<v Speaker 4>Iron say it, But did you get to go?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 1>You know, I saw that and I was thinking, and
<v Speaker 1>this is the part where I came in and I'm
<v Speaker 1>listening to it, and he kind of flubbed it a
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I mean, was that me? That just thought?
<v Speaker 3>Was?
<v Speaker 1>Was I tried to get good? I mean, that's too bad?
<v Speaker 5>Uh? So that whole show was interesting.
<v Speaker 1>That was a weird. Yeah, that was an odd, odd situation,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah.
<v Speaker 3>That was that the one where they had Northwest singing
<v Speaker 3>sure was.
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna be a mighty king moving on?
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, cool, a lot of that. So, yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>what I watched when I grew up.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I was watching Dick Van Dyke, and I
<v Speaker 4>was watching Mary Tyler Moore, Jaxie and Welcome Back Carder
<v Speaker 4>and things like that.
<v Speaker 3>Were you pulling inspiration from those subconsciously.
<v Speaker 2>I guess you know.
<v Speaker 4>I love Lucy was on repeat all day that you
<v Speaker 4>know again, where I'm watching sitcoms that started the genre
<v Speaker 4>that you know created.
<v Speaker 3>I can see a lot of Lucy balling you.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.
<v Speaker 3>The facial You're so expressive.
<v Speaker 2>I am so it gets me into trouble.
<v Speaker 5>I talked.
<v Speaker 2>We had a conversation a little while ago, my wife
<v Speaker 2>and I.
<v Speaker 4>I was like, babes, I can stop a tick if
<v Speaker 4>I notice it, I can stop. You're like, well, then
<v Speaker 4>stop moving your face so damn.
<v Speaker 2>Much, and I was like, I can't.
<v Speaker 6>Do that any other I just can't do my.
<v Speaker 5>Crazy.
<v Speaker 2>It's worked for you, though, Hey, money money, money.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. That's what I always I've said
<v Speaker 1>it before. I turned Monkey Hour into a career, and
<v Speaker 1>it's if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I noticed you react to dark Wing Duck earlier.
<v Speaker 3>Are you a dark Wing Duck connoisseewer?
<v Speaker 2>I was a I was me and my brother dark
<v Speaker 2>Wing Duck for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Excellent.
<v Speaker 7>That's amazing, Goslin. We should have had you on the
<v Speaker 7>show if only I had known. But uh, yes, what's
<v Speaker 7>that are we're bringing dark Wing back.
<v Speaker 1>Why, yes, there is that rumor, so.
<v Speaker 5>I know that's how much? When? How much joy?
<v Speaker 1>When?
<v Speaker 5>Who brought me and take her to?
<v Speaker 1>Well? That's good, I'm both of them.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.
<v Speaker 5>How amazing to be so many people? Do you ever
<v Speaker 5>forget who you are?
<v Speaker 1>No, we don't have any I mean I don't have
<v Speaker 1>any problems at all. Yeah, just ask George.
<v Speaker 5>And you also somewhat look like the professor from Jurassic Park.
<v Speaker 1>He does, Oh god, British? Yeah, yeah, good old what's
<v Speaker 1>his name?
<v Speaker 5>You could be next one?
<v Speaker 1>Well, I got that.
<v Speaker 5>I know you're very much giving it today.
<v Speaker 2>There you are.
<v Speaker 1>I think I was a little too intrepid there, but
<v Speaker 1>but I can tell it back. Yeah. Oh god, it's
<v Speaker 1>going to bug me. I have to look that up.
<v Speaker 1>Somebody look that up out there? Yeah, put it in
<v Speaker 1>the y because we're live, aren't we? What the hell anyway?
<v Speaker 3>Recording lives?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as far as you're not recording live, is it
<v Speaker 3>even possible to do? Can you record not live?
<v Speaker 1>Well, you can record a recording.
<v Speaker 3>You can record a recording.
<v Speaker 4>Recording live while the recording is live.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now my.
<v Speaker 5>Brain hurts some meta stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, that's a word. Yes, it is, yet.
<v Speaker 5>It is.
<v Speaker 1>Now Are you a comic book person by any chance?
<v Speaker 1>I used to be, Yeah, because d C went over
<v Speaker 1>because uh, Marvel invented mutants and they're all superheroes now
<v Speaker 1>and that that worked out so well that d C
<v Speaker 1>had to invent meta Now they are meta humans, so
<v Speaker 1>on the cutting edge.
<v Speaker 2>Hair, I can't tell you something. There is no original idea.
<v Speaker 4>It's just copies and copies and copies, and it just
<v Speaker 4>gets watered down every time.
<v Speaker 5>We went to Comic Con this year for the first time.
<v Speaker 5>Fun Yeah, we.
<v Speaker 3>Were there too, you were Why didn't tell us?
<v Speaker 2>Next time?
<v Speaker 5>We went on Saturday and.
<v Speaker 2>The Lawrence brothers.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we got to walk around and see all the fun.
<v Speaker 5>We didn't get to any get to go to any
<v Speaker 5>of the panels or any of the talks like that,
<v Speaker 5>which would have been exciting, but just seeing the crowd
<v Speaker 5>and do you get mobbed?
<v Speaker 3>I wore a mask.
<v Speaker 2>I wore a silver mask the whole entire time.
<v Speaker 5>It was funny.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, yes, probably, but had clothes on, not like his girl.
<v Speaker 1>That is that? Is that a pain?
<v Speaker 3>Like?
<v Speaker 1>I mean just going to seven eleven.
<v Speaker 2>You go, that's funny?
<v Speaker 5>You know they never go to seven eleven.
<v Speaker 1>Aroon.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not a pain, it's just the job, right.
<v Speaker 4>I've been told that that's the that's the fallout of
<v Speaker 4>the job. And in my brain, you know, I've made
<v Speaker 4>sure that when someone comes up to me, I'm just
<v Speaker 4>honest with them, meaning if I'm having a bad.
<v Speaker 2>Day, I'd be like, honey, I'm having a bad day.
<v Speaker 2>Can you understand that with me?
<v Speaker 1>Please?
<v Speaker 4>Can I do anything other than put my face on?
<v Speaker 4>And I think if they know how I feel, they're
<v Speaker 4>not as mad.
<v Speaker 2>There are some that don't care, and I begrudgingly take
<v Speaker 2>the picture.
<v Speaker 4>But if you come up to me while I'm eating
<v Speaker 4>or asking for something, I am very honest and I
<v Speaker 4>try my best to give everyone what they need because
<v Speaker 4>I also know that if I'm having a bad day
<v Speaker 4>and I'm making your day right now, that means more
<v Speaker 4>to me than my bad day.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it helps you have a day that's not
<v Speaker 1>so bad exactly, that's not that's not bad.
<v Speaker 5>At We had an amazing moment because we went to
<v Speaker 5>the Jonas Brothers concert this last weekend and we're friends
<v Speaker 5>with Franklin Jonas, who is the youngest Jonas, and he
<v Speaker 5>was opening for his Brothers, and it was wonderful to
<v Speaker 5>see him perform. He has a great voice, but who.
<v Speaker 2>Songs out right now?
<v Speaker 5>Just gentle press for a little promo for Franklin. But
<v Speaker 5>what was interesting was that after Franklin set, we went
<v Speaker 5>backstage again hung out, and then we came back out
<v Speaker 5>and the house lights were up in the stadium and
<v Speaker 5>as we're walking to our seats, someone clocks Raven. Someone
<v Speaker 5>else clocks Raven. By the time we'd gotten too our seats.
<v Speaker 5>I kid you not, the entire stadium was cheering for Raven.
<v Speaker 5>And when you think about it, which I guess none
<v Speaker 5>of us really did, they're one to one meaning like
<v Speaker 5>a Jonas Brothers fan most likely is also a Disney fan,
<v Speaker 5>which is also somebody who had watched Raven. They were
<v Speaker 5>co workers for all tons of purposes. So this audience
<v Speaker 5>was just thrill and it gave me chills actually point
<v Speaker 5>because just hearing.
<v Speaker 2>The Raven Raven.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the excitement and enthusiasm, it was kind of electric.
<v Speaker 5>But she handled that with you always handle everything with grace.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you're very, very good at that. But it
<v Speaker 5>was really a moment of like.
<v Speaker 1>WHOA, yeah, that's that's cool. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's also because I just don't walk around
<v Speaker 4>with that air. You know, you'll have some celebrities that
<v Speaker 4>walk around like look how important I am?
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and I will you know, you.
<v Speaker 2>See y'all meet them, And I walk.
<v Speaker 4>Around two different ways. If I need to walk into
<v Speaker 4>a room with that air, I know where it is
<v Speaker 4>and I know where it lives in my body, and
<v Speaker 4>I use it. And then sometimes I don't need to
<v Speaker 4>walk into a room and be that way, Like I
<v Speaker 4>don't have to be that way. I don't need it
<v Speaker 4>for my.
<v Speaker 3>Ego.
<v Speaker 4>Ego, I have a big enough one already. I like
<v Speaker 4>to go home and be chill.
<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, isn't it you guys have this shared experience
<v Speaker 3>as we do. But isn't it interesting when you have
<v Speaker 3>a guest on the podcast and like you meet them
<v Speaker 3>for the first time that like energy, like what energy
<v Speaker 3>are they going to bring? You know, like, because you
<v Speaker 3>know of these people, but you don't.
<v Speaker 2>Know these people you know definitely and.
<v Speaker 3>It changes you know some people we do know, but
<v Speaker 3>it's always so fascinating to be like, you know, I
<v Speaker 3>was even thinking about it today, you know, like what
<v Speaker 3>what energy like do you bring as a person you know,
<v Speaker 3>and like yours was very friendly and warm and welcoming,
<v Speaker 3>so which is always are I am Southern?
<v Speaker 5>It makes me sweat. I get nervous when we have
<v Speaker 5>like these new people on and I'm kind of like,
<v Speaker 5>oh my goodness, how are they going to react or
<v Speaker 5>thing or whatnot? But yes, Raven is very sweet and southern.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where are you from? Atlanta?
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta?
<v Speaker 2>From Holana Atlanta? Yep, yep?
<v Speaker 1>But I I I hear what you're Atlanta.
<v Speaker 2>I love Atlanta. Is I hear what you're saying? What
<v Speaker 2>you're saying?
<v Speaker 4>And I definitely it's also because of the people that
<v Speaker 4>I'm around, right, Like, you guys are super nice, You're
<v Speaker 4>down to earth. I could feel it when we walked in.
<v Speaker 4>And I will go into a room with someone who
<v Speaker 4>thinks that.
<v Speaker 2>They're can I cuss here.
<v Speaker 1>Thinks that they're the ship.
<v Speaker 4>And I sit there and I stand there, I put
<v Speaker 4>on my mask and I go, sweetheart, thirty nine years
<v Speaker 4>he started last year. I'm just gonna sit in the corner.
<v Speaker 4>And then that's when I get the feedback of Raven
<v Speaker 4>that's just a resting bitch face, like what's.
<v Speaker 2>Wrong with her?
<v Speaker 4>I'm like what's wrong with me? Is you have someone
<v Speaker 4>peacocking throughout this whole entire Yeah, it's and I don't
<v Speaker 4>have to peacock boo boogook. Yeah, yeah, you know what
<v Speaker 4>I mean. And I really cannot stand peak.
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever done conventions where like you're signing autographs
<v Speaker 3>and stuff or no, back in.
<v Speaker 4>The day when I was at the height of that,
<v Speaker 4>So Raven, I've been asked to do some recently and
<v Speaker 4>I haven't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel ready to do that yet.
<v Speaker 4>But I used to go to Walmart and sign for
<v Speaker 4>five hours at a time like that was when that's
<v Speaker 4>Raven was at the height. I would do concerts and
<v Speaker 4>just stay there and sign all night long. I've done
<v Speaker 4>my dues, I've paid them.
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen times over.
<v Speaker 4>And when I just see new fame come in and
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm really proud of you for acquiring all
<v Speaker 4>of this celebrity and fame, but just remember that I'm
<v Speaker 4>older than you, so you can shoo on me all
<v Speaker 4>you want to, but I'm gonna still be here no
<v Speaker 4>matter what, and you have at least thirty more years
<v Speaker 4>to catch up. Yeah, you know, so I have I
<v Speaker 4>have an ego.
<v Speaker 2>I definitely have.
<v Speaker 1>Any and well you should thank you. And it keeps you,
<v Speaker 1>keeps you. You know, in perspective, I would think it does,
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I mean look at look at you know,
<v Speaker 1>there's this, that and the other thing. That's a bit
<v Speaker 1>of a pain in the ass, but you don't want
<v Speaker 1>to trade it. I mean, these are good problems.
<v Speaker 3>It's fair.
<v Speaker 1>You know, these are the good old days. These are
<v Speaker 1>the good old days. They really are.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.
<v Speaker 1>That's so true. No matter when you say it, that'll
<v Speaker 1>be true.
<v Speaker 2>This is very true. That was the truth. That was
<v Speaker 2>the truth. We're all been in the industry too long.
<v Speaker 2>We know how to put a button on a button.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What what's what's on your agenda? Do you have
<v Speaker 1>a wish list still? Oh?
<v Speaker 2>Career wise?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I want to direct a movie that's in AMC.
<v Speaker 4>I want to have a show that says created.
<v Speaker 2>By with our name on it.
<v Speaker 4>I want to be on a I want to direct a.
<v Speaker 2>What is that word? I can?
<v Speaker 4>I always mess up when we're in the meetings and
<v Speaker 4>it's a like high potential or will trent a procedural
<v Speaker 4>A procedure?
<v Speaker 2>I want to direct a procedural how you say it?
<v Speaker 5>Procedural?
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>I want to direct one of them.
<v Speaker 1>And an epidural, No, a procedural.
<v Speaker 2>Not an that's actually good, not an epidural.
<v Speaker 3>But they they rotate directors pretty frequently on procedurals, right.
<v Speaker 2>They do, and they also bring back.
<v Speaker 3>It's rotating director. Yeah. Yeah, So I want to lawn
<v Speaker 3>Order or something like that to direct order.
<v Speaker 4>I would love to direct a Will Trent Law and Order,
<v Speaker 4>Gray's Anatomy, like all those, because I watched them consistently
<v Speaker 4>and I just can see it in my head automatically.
<v Speaker 2>But I want to be a part of that. Nice yeah, yeah, easy.
<v Speaker 4>And then I want to paint. I want to be
<v Speaker 4>able to sell my paintings. And I want to see
<v Speaker 4>one of my paintings up in a Hilton. I know
<v Speaker 4>that's so randomly, well, but you know when you're walking
<v Speaker 4>down the halls at a hotel and you just see this,
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I can do that.
<v Speaker 2>Put my painting up done, Pierre.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I've thought about doing that too.
<v Speaker 3>I used to.
<v Speaker 1>I used to make my living painting in New Orleans.
<v Speaker 1>I of all things, I designed and painted Mardi Gras floats.
<v Speaker 1>Oh isn't that I mean, that's so random. Yeah, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I know.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I tell people they go, what what the hell? And
<v Speaker 1>I go, well, yeah, I designed and painted Marti Grass,
<v Speaker 1>and I did my own designs. And they used to
<v Speaker 1>have designers and then people who would carry them out
<v Speaker 1>like in the numbers. But I guess it was rare
<v Speaker 1>that I that someone did both, and I got to
<v Speaker 1>do both. I did for about three years. It was
<v Speaker 1>a ball and it was I don't know. Of course,
<v Speaker 1>you hit the ground running, but there were always certain
<v Speaker 1>weird little things that I knew that I wanted to do.
<v Speaker 1>When I mean, when I was like five or six
<v Speaker 1>years old, I wanted to make my living singing. I
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make my living playing drums, and of course
<v Speaker 1>then I did both. And then I wanted to make
<v Speaker 1>my living drawing or painting something, you know, and so
<v Speaker 1>and then when I was five, I saw my blank
<v Speaker 1>on TV. Excuse me, and my dad goes, you see
<v Speaker 1>this bastard. I go, yeah, he goes, he's the one
<v Speaker 1>who does all those voices and like bugs Bunny, and
<v Speaker 1>oh he go Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck and you know,
<v Speaker 1>Tazmane and Devin and I go yeah, yeah, and I said, man,
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to stand in the corner for being weird.
<v Speaker 1>I'll be him, and so i'm him, except that I'm
<v Speaker 1>not as good. But I'm hanging in there.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not okay, You're okay.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hung in there.
<v Speaker 5>You've done well with making Monkey our career for Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>that's exactly right.
<v Speaker 1>Monkey Hour is exactly what I did.
<v Speaker 3>So you've done some voice acting when I'm sorry I
<v Speaker 3>didn't do enough research. But when you did your voice acting,
<v Speaker 3>did you put on a voice or is it you?
<v Speaker 2>I did not put on a voice. I always tried.
<v Speaker 2>I always tried a.
<v Speaker 1>Good one, the one you're doing there, Thank you.
<v Speaker 2>I work really hard on it. No, I have done
<v Speaker 2>voice acting.
<v Speaker 4>I've done some movies and I've done some cartoon TV's,
<v Speaker 4>and when I walk into it, it's always just my voice,
<v Speaker 4>and then one is like just.
<v Speaker 2>All right and here we are and this is it.
<v Speaker 2>That's like the only thing.
<v Speaker 4>But I pride myself in what voices I can do,
<v Speaker 4>and I think I really want to be a part
<v Speaker 4>of a cartoon, so you can give me the green
<v Speaker 4>light if I'm good.
<v Speaker 2>To kidd Hello.
<v Speaker 4>I was just wondering if maybe I could be on
<v Speaker 4>your show and do some cool things here and there,
<v Speaker 4>because sometimes I don't really know what I'm supposed to do.
<v Speaker 2>I do kids like that.
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, you sound like you sound like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>my goodness, who played Tommy Pickles?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh yeah, not.
<v Speaker 1>Jake.
<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised you guys haven't had her on the pod.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, oh your points are lost?
<v Speaker 5>Know Christopher Nolan and you don't know her name.
<v Speaker 2>John, She's such a basic.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she's great.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really like doing kid voices like that.
<v Speaker 3>With me.
<v Speaker 2>It's how you talk to her dog and so cute.
<v Speaker 4>And then I did a I did an episode of
<v Speaker 4>that So Raven where I played multiple characters.
<v Speaker 2>I played a man, I played a baby, remember, yeah, best.
<v Speaker 2>And that's when I really was like, oh this is fun.
<v Speaker 4>Delroy Delroy, Oh my goodness.
<v Speaker 5>Please be Delroy.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can't think of del Roy this.
<v Speaker 5>This is my favorite episode.
<v Speaker 2>That's a right then, not going to visit up it?
<v Speaker 2>Just down here, man, None of the way, isn't I
<v Speaker 2>need a don't you go around?
<v Speaker 3>You don't know.
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't really speak English, doesn't its This Southern black.
<v Speaker 2>Man was like, you take him of roof of boat.
<v Speaker 2>Now you better go down there. And figure it out. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not playing with you. I'm not playing with you.
<v Speaker 3>And that was good.
<v Speaker 4>I like playing Delroy because he's this short, fat man
<v Speaker 4>and so he'll walk up the stairs like, don't you
<v Speaker 4>do what your first?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just so funny that when she did that
<v Speaker 5>episode last time, there was a callback to Delroy being
<v Speaker 5>in an episode of Raven's Home. Oh my gosh, coming
<v Speaker 5>to visit her on set in this makeup too is
<v Speaker 5>also just so hilarious. She was in prosthetics and the
<v Speaker 5>whole thing and the suit and the belly and oh
<v Speaker 5>my gosh.
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<v Speaker 5>Do you guys want to know something funny about me?
<v Speaker 5>Fun fact I'm not a voice actor at all, never
<v Speaker 5>done any of that. But there is a Ashley Mary
<v Speaker 5>Kate movie called Switching Goals and I was called in
<v Speaker 5>to be their voices. I looped for them because they,
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, we're doing other things that Mary Kate
<v Speaker 5>and actually do. And so that was the only time
<v Speaker 5>in my life that my voice was recorded in that way.
<v Speaker 5>And I was saying things like, hey, throw me the
<v Speaker 5>soccer ball, kick it over here, Hey, come on, having
<v Speaker 5>to do you know that type.
<v Speaker 2>Of stuff, which is even crazier switching goals.
<v Speaker 4>I do too, But but can I tell the whole
<v Speaker 4>it's crazy because she went to school with them.
<v Speaker 2>Too, I did.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, did they know that they hired you? No,
<v Speaker 5>they didn't hire me.
<v Speaker 2>No, I know they didn't be No, no, what is it
<v Speaker 2>called the propobial?
<v Speaker 5>They no, no, no, no.
<v Speaker 1>It suffering?
<v Speaker 3>I know.
<v Speaker 6>Sorry, understood, understood?
<v Speaker 5>No, Okay, that was something because clearly it was definitely
<v Speaker 5>like my father had something to do with something or
<v Speaker 5>a friend of his. It was because it was it
<v Speaker 5>was I think rich Heller was somehow connected to that.
<v Speaker 5>Who's a friend of my dad's. And then I came
<v Speaker 5>in just because they needed a young girl.
<v Speaker 2>To that's funny, I call that.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I'm me too, in the good way.
<v Speaker 2>Actually, we actually.
<v Speaker 5>Have a show that we're currently pitching that is a
<v Speaker 5>beautifully animated animated series. Yeah, and we're both voicing characters
<v Speaker 5>in that.
<v Speaker 2>The mothers in one of them.
<v Speaker 4>But on our tones page there's a win Winnie the
<v Speaker 4>Poop there is. Yeah, you did a lot for us.
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I'll take that. Yeah that's good. Thanks for
<v Speaker 1>telling me that. Oh that's sweet.
<v Speaker 2>If you need any voices, Oh, you're you're, you're, you're.
<v Speaker 2>You have a face for radio.
<v Speaker 4>I told your voice is crazy, Like have you always
<v Speaker 4>had that deep voice?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Pretty much?
<v Speaker 2>Really like you were just twelve years old, was.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people wud always make fun of my voice like
<v Speaker 3>high school? Yeah, yeah, my dad has a really deep
<v Speaker 3>voice too, But yeah, I always had like this deep voice.
<v Speaker 5>And can you do not tricks? But do you have
<v Speaker 5>range with it?
<v Speaker 2>And can you flip your voice up and downs?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I have like a hard time going high,
<v Speaker 3>like no, I can't it like starts to crack.
<v Speaker 2>How low can you go?
<v Speaker 3>How low can I go? That's probably like the lowest
<v Speaker 3>I can go. That's that's the deepest. I'm trying to
<v Speaker 3>go deeper.
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, deeper.
<v Speaker 3>I can go?
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, that's really low. That's really low octave.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty good.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you a trick, the voice trick. Yes.
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to get a fake deep voice
<v Speaker 1>and you don't really have one, I call it the
<v Speaker 1>slow motion voice. You take the tip of your tongue
<v Speaker 1>and stuff it up underneath the back of your.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, right there, right right right.
<v Speaker 1>Child, And it's kind of like it's slow. It sounds
<v Speaker 1>like you're it's slow motion. Like this is talking in
<v Speaker 1>regular just regular speech, and this is.
<v Speaker 3>The way it is.
<v Speaker 5>No, where are you sounding optimus prime prime?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>That's that does. Yeah, yeah, it really does.
<v Speaker 1>Peter and that. Yeah, Peter's a good Buddy's.
<v Speaker 5>Waiting for you to be like I.
<v Speaker 1>Have.
<v Speaker 5>It's just not like I went to the dentist auto box.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of that scene in Old School when
<v Speaker 3>he gets the dart in his neck. Well feral that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>go to do in your neck? Get out of here.
<v Speaker 3>You're crazy. I like you, but you're crazy man.
<v Speaker 2>So funny. Oh my goodness, good.
<v Speaker 3>Times, goody, good times, and the good times are walk
<v Speaker 3>You need to do that? What would you what did
<v Speaker 3>you call it to? Two star Mondays?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, madly Mondays bad movie Mondays.
<v Speaker 3>You need to do like a segment on your podcast
<v Speaker 3>if you don't already, I might do it on my
<v Speaker 3>tiktokd movie Mondays and do like a little review of
<v Speaker 3>like these especially.
<v Speaker 4>That makes me so happy that you said that, because
<v Speaker 4>then I can watch more movies because.
<v Speaker 2>It's her content. So I'm going to do it, babes,
<v Speaker 2>can I have a segment on this podcast. I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to do it on my TikTok.
<v Speaker 5>I mean we watched them together. We could totally do that.
<v Speaker 2>I got them totally.
<v Speaker 1>Jason and the Argonauts, that would be a good one.
<v Speaker 1>Jason And when I was a little kid and I
<v Speaker 1>thought it was the coolest, coolest movie ever. And it
<v Speaker 1>was Ray Harry Housen with that stop action dragons and
<v Speaker 1>big sort of Clay maate I think he invented clay
<v Speaker 1>mation nineteen sixty three film. Yeah, and it's a sad movie.
<v Speaker 1>Is just awful.
<v Speaker 2>It's horrible. I can tell my the pictures. It's but
<v Speaker 2>it also is like kind of kitchy cool.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh I want to see it's very much. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's I feel maybe it's a good bear and pizza movie.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, look at the poster.
<v Speaker 4>See I like stuff like that, I'm definitely gonna do it.
<v Speaker 4>There was one I can never remember the name of it,
<v Speaker 4>but it matted such critical acclaim. It's like this Jesus
<v Speaker 4>character that's walking through a big tunnel covered in rainbows
<v Speaker 4>and then he goes down to Hell and he's It's
<v Speaker 4>I can't even explain to you.
<v Speaker 2>It's horrible, but also like artistic genius, you know, it's
<v Speaker 2>like that.
<v Speaker 5>The one of our bad movie Mondays was honestly it was.
<v Speaker 2>It was so bad.
<v Speaker 5>It's not even funny bad. I mean, this was about
<v Speaker 5>like I did.
<v Speaker 1>It was just bad.
<v Speaker 2>It was just bad.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like the production value, the script was horrific.
<v Speaker 5>This guy was like a struggling dancer who had a
<v Speaker 5>wife and a child, but then just just ever that
<v Speaker 5>he was actually gay and he was like having this relationship.
<v Speaker 5>But also it was then being like played out through dance.
<v Speaker 5>So it was just like the most awkward thing to
<v Speaker 5>observe as an audience member, and it was just like,
<v Speaker 5>these people have no clue what they're doing at all.
<v Speaker 5>It's not like what was the one that James Franco
<v Speaker 5>did the Disaster Artist that was like that became Yes, exactly.
<v Speaker 3>They'd still do that. They do like a monthly screening.
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah at the theater in Glendale.
<v Speaker 5>And everyone knows every line, yes exactly. It's become such
<v Speaker 5>a classically.
<v Speaker 4>I was looking for the one with Jonathan Reese Myers
<v Speaker 4>that he did that you obviously he did after he
<v Speaker 4>like got back up on the horse or something like that,
<v Speaker 4>and he had a robot as a female.
<v Speaker 2>My wife was like, why are you watching this?
<v Speaker 5>And oh that was so bad, like AI robot sex
<v Speaker 5>and like then she she.
<v Speaker 2>Was super young. You could tell it was like awkward
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, just I love those me It's what not
<v Speaker 2>to do? You know what I mean?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're learning, Yes, exactly, you learn the contract.
<v Speaker 1>That's a learning process. Okay, well I am being to
<v Speaker 1>do that again.
<v Speaker 5>Exactly exactly, exactly.
<v Speaker 3>Tell from a script you usually tell. Yeah, it's hard
<v Speaker 3>to mess up a good script.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean you can. It's also just can't get
<v Speaker 5>good scripts nowadays. I think that's part of it. We
<v Speaker 5>bad movie Monday was born out of us kind of
<v Speaker 5>banging our heads against the wall because we're like, why
<v Speaker 5>how do these things get made? Like what is what's happening?
<v Speaker 2>And what don't we know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's something you talked about earlier, like people just
<v Speaker 3>want to be in the industry so bad, Like there's
<v Speaker 3>you know, I've met people who are who are billionaires
<v Speaker 3>who just want to fund a movie just so they
<v Speaker 3>can say they've produced a movie and hang out with
<v Speaker 3>movie stars. And we've talked about this like in you
<v Speaker 3>know how they bring all these celebrity on camera talent
<v Speaker 3>to voice acting for movies. Right. Yes, the reason behind it,
<v Speaker 3>I truly believe, is because those producers just want to
<v Speaker 3>hang out with a movie star. They don't care about
<v Speaker 3>the performance, like they don't you're an actor, you'll do
<v Speaker 3>good enough, you know. They don't understand the craft and
<v Speaker 3>how it changes. They're just like, I want to hang
<v Speaker 3>out with you know, Joe.
<v Speaker 4>Blow or you know exactly, and they know that that
<v Speaker 4>name brings it in even though the talent is not
<v Speaker 4>the same as when you get back into those original
<v Speaker 4>things and you're like, I don't know who that voice is,
<v Speaker 4>but I know it's that character my biggest.
<v Speaker 3>Right And I say it all the time on this podcast,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna say it again. It's Vin Diesel as Groot.
<v Speaker 3>Why oh, I did you need Vin Diesel as group
<v Speaker 3>because nobody saw that Diesel to say I am groot.
<v Speaker 3>Nobody was it? No, that was it?
<v Speaker 1>That isn't that's all I ever said.
<v Speaker 3>You could have made a whole new person's life with
<v Speaker 3>that three words. The new actor says, I am grow.
<v Speaker 3>And it's an massive franchise.
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you exactly what I wouldn't have been in
<v Speaker 4>the movie good No, but you know why.
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you why. Vin Diesel in the Fast the
<v Speaker 5>Furious franchise is massive. It's massive, billions and billions of
<v Speaker 5>dollars for.
<v Speaker 3>You, one of the biggest franchises in.
<v Speaker 5>So Universal will always put him wherever he may or
<v Speaker 5>may not want to go. He has young kids. It
<v Speaker 5>is very, very possible that they're like, we're just going
<v Speaker 5>to do this because it's a billion dollar franchise and
<v Speaker 5>it's no sweat off, and that is studio. But what
<v Speaker 5>that is, though, is the politics of this this business.
<v Speaker 5>I hear what you're saying. Though. It's frustrating and it
<v Speaker 5>could make it something for somebody else and it's pointless
<v Speaker 5>and whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Give me that like little role, like that's so little
<v Speaker 3>and so easy, but like I don't know it just
<v Speaker 3>strikes me as greedy. It strikes me as greedy.
<v Speaker 2>It does feel greedy. Yeah, that's exactly what it does.
<v Speaker 3>It's like I need to be this or like and
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'll just go on a rent right
<v Speaker 3>now because I'm in it. But I feel like that's
<v Speaker 3>like a hard thing for a lot of this generation
<v Speaker 3>of actors getting into the acting business, getting into show
<v Speaker 3>business is a lot of these directors aren't going away
<v Speaker 3>like they're staying like I'm Harrison Ford, We're going to
<v Speaker 3>do another one, like we're yeah that and their kids
<v Speaker 3>and their kids.
<v Speaker 2>Their kids are coming in and their.
<v Speaker 3>Kids absolutely, which I will say, there's some NEPO babies
<v Speaker 3>that are actually really talented. Yeah, like uh, Kurt Russellson,
<v Speaker 3>he's a great actor.
<v Speaker 5>Is that from Kane?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, no.
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, that's no, that's so yeah, that's you know Russell.
<v Speaker 3>Kurt Russell is the names Wyatt.
<v Speaker 5>I believe it's Kurt Russell's son. He was in His
<v Speaker 5>name is Wyatt Russell.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Wyatt Russell. He was in twenty two Jump Street.
<v Speaker 3>You remember twenty two Jump Street. He was like the
<v Speaker 3>buddy football player, long hair. He was in Black Mirror
<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of other really good He's a great actor.
<v Speaker 5>You know. Maud Apatow just directed her first film, she
<v Speaker 5>wrote and directed it, and Leslie Man, her mom, is
<v Speaker 5>in it, and Phillip Seymour Hoffman's son is in it.
<v Speaker 5>And the buzz that he is getting, people are basically
<v Speaker 5>saying that he's going to win Oscars, like he is
<v Speaker 5>just I'm forgetting his name.
<v Speaker 3>Well, if he has a sliver of his dad's talent.
<v Speaker 5>That's exactly. And I saw a quick clip of him
<v Speaker 5>on the Today Show and of course everyone is like,
<v Speaker 5>you know, did you always know you wanted to do this?
<v Speaker 5>And he was very much like, no, it just kind
<v Speaker 5>of happened, and you know, I'm doing it for the
<v Speaker 5>right now and we'll see where it lands. But everyone
<v Speaker 5>is just people that have that attitude sore. Yeah, I think,
<v Speaker 5>but you know when you are Philip Seymour Hoffman's child,
<v Speaker 5>and clearly now he's extremely talented and he probably knows that,
<v Speaker 5>so he has the quiet confidence. But I was just
<v Speaker 5>thinking about the NEPO element of they are the next
<v Speaker 5>generation to have Matt Avato writing and directing. You have
<v Speaker 5>Philip Seymour Hoffman starring I've seen about Zoe Kravitz the
<v Speaker 5>other day her success.
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big hater on nepple babies. I feel
<v Speaker 3>like in any avenue of humanity, you know, just because
<v Speaker 3>you're famous and you get these opportunities, but like nobody
<v Speaker 3>criticizes like a teenager going to work at their dad's
<v Speaker 3>coffee shop, or like hard going to work for your
<v Speaker 3>family business. Like I hate the notion of like don't
<v Speaker 3>work with family. I get it, it doesn't work for
<v Speaker 3>some people. But like you look around and like all
<v Speaker 3>the richest people work with their family.
<v Speaker 2>Like the keep it in the family.
<v Speaker 3>They all like they don't go out and hire other
<v Speaker 3>people like they work with their family, like the ends,
<v Speaker 3>and like you know these massive corporations, Like why would
<v Speaker 3>it be any different in show business? Like to me,
<v Speaker 3>it's just the same thing of human nature. It's like
<v Speaker 3>you're hiring your offspring. You know, they're working on the farm.
<v Speaker 3>We have eight kids, you know they're bailing. Hey, Like
<v Speaker 3>it happens everywhere. Like my dad was a fisherman like
<v Speaker 3>his father before him.
<v Speaker 4>You know, like yeas so true, so true, but.
<v Speaker 3>Then you get shipped for it because you're on TV.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because there is so much more invisible. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 5>the thing is.
<v Speaker 2>There's other people that want that position, so yeah, so bad.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're gonna have influencers soon. Think about that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to. I just can't.
<v Speaker 5>They've already started, They've already started, to be honest, because
<v Speaker 5>when you think about the mommy influencers or the Mommy
<v Speaker 5>lifestyle vloggers, but so many of their so many of
<v Speaker 5>their children are actually the appeal and because they're super
<v Speaker 5>cute in it. So it's like they've already started.
<v Speaker 3>I know one girl she does that with her kids,
<v Speaker 3>and I swear it's like she just keeps pumping out kids,
<v Speaker 3>so she has some young ones like to just keep
<v Speaker 3>keep putting out there.
<v Speaker 5>That's unfortunate, that's dangerous.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Octo mom, the.
<v Speaker 5>Original Natasha, like the original Octo.
<v Speaker 1>So what what's uh? Do you? What? What is your next?
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything shaken right now that we should be
<v Speaker 1>bragging about? Well, I mean because the whole world watches.
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, thank you the whole world.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're just really really proud of the podcast time
<v Speaker 4>with Raven and Miranda on YouTube and anywhere you get
<v Speaker 4>your podcasts from. Like I said, we are constantly out
<v Speaker 4>in the industry pitching things, and hopefully we can come
<v Speaker 4>back to you and we have sold something. But as
<v Speaker 4>of right now, we're just crafting the mission statement and
<v Speaker 4>have a few new have a few movies in the
<v Speaker 4>queue that I can't talk.
<v Speaker 2>About that we're both a part of.
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we're we're gonna stay consistent in the industry
<v Speaker 4>as best as we can. Knowing that we are a lesbian,
<v Speaker 4>mixed race couple. I think it's really important that we
<v Speaker 4>continue to craft stories that help our community, sure, and
<v Speaker 4>others as well, not just ours. But you know, just
<v Speaker 4>because we look and are like this doesn't mean that
<v Speaker 4>our story can't connect to something that doesn't look like us.
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's really important for us to keep
<v Speaker 4>out there and keep pushing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Shakespeare did it good enough for him.
<v Speaker 5>Good enough shape. We can do it.
<v Speaker 1>Right, amen?
<v Speaker 2>Amen, My parents would love that.
<v Speaker 3>All right?
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