Trump Found Guilty; Inflation Data on Wall Street
On today's podcast:
1) Donald Trump Reacts after Becoming the First US President Convicted on Criminal Charges
2) How the Trump Verdict Could Upend the Political Landscape Ahead of the 2024 Election
3) Traders Are Watching The Fed's Key Inflation Gauge, the PCE Index
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2024-05-31
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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:11.960 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.960 I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:19.560 Karen, we begin with the unprecedented, historic moment in American politics. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.840 Donald Trump has been found guilty in the first criminal 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.239 trial of a former US president in the nation's history. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.840 Five months before this year's presidential election, twelve New York 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.040 jurors found Trump guilty on all thirty four counts of 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.199 falsifying business records to conceal a hush money payment to 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:41.160 adult film actress Stormy Daniels ahead of the twenty sixteen election. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.239 Prosecutors argued it was a conspiracy that deprived voters of 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.080 vital information before they cast their votes. In twenty sixteen, 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.879 Trump spoke after the verdict came down, this was a. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.880 Rigged, disgraceful trial that the real verdict is going to 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.320 be November fifth. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:00:59.640 By the people. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.720 And Donald Trump criticized Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:04.960 led the charges. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:05.959 You have a so. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.560 Respect DA and the whole thing. We didn't do any 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:11.920 thing wrong. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.839 I'm a very innocent man. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.839 And now former President Donald Trump is due for sentencing 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.960 on July eleventh, after which he plans to appeal. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.119 Well Nathan Manhattan dished Attorney Alvin Bragg also spoke after 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.200 the verdict, saying his office handled in this case like 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:27.760 any other. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:33.240 Well, this defendant may be unlike any other in American history. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.760 We arrived at this trial and ultimately today at this 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.840 verdict in the same manner as every other case that 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.199 comes to the courtroom doors. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.639 Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg called the case a white collar 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.960 prosecution core to the mission of his office. Bragg thanked 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.280 the jury for their deliberations after the five week trial. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:52.480 Well Karen. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.480 One of the key questions following the verdict is whether 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.080 or not Donald Trump will become the first US president 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.360 sentenced to prison. Ramifications are unclear at the moment, but 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.840 Bloomberg Law host June Grosso explains the likely next steps. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.920 Donald Trump will be sentenced on July eleventh. Each of 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.919 the thirty four counts is a Class E felony, which 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.600 can carry a prison term of up to four years. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.440 A typical defendant convicted of a felony charged is sentenced 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.000 to serve some prison time, but there's nothing in the 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:26.280 law that requires it. Judge Wanmershan could instead sentence Trump 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.720 to probation, especially if he decides that leniency is warranted 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.400 because the former president is seventy seven years old and 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:38.000 a first time offender with no criminal record. In New York, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.360 June Grosso Bloomberg Radio, all right. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.440 June, thank you. So, how will the conviction impact Donald 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.880 Trump's presidential run? Republican strategist Man Gorman tells Bloomberg's Balance 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.320 of Power things will stay status quo. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.520 It's gonna be a typical Trump news cycle in this 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.760 respect that there's gonna be a lot of noise. I 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.520 don't think at the end it changes anything back dramatic. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.560 This is going to be competitive presidential election at today, 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:01.720 it'll be tomorrow it. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.960 Was yesterday, Republican strategist Matt Gorman. And on the other 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.160 side of the aisle, Democratic strategist Kristin Hahn says President 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.119 Biden needs to capitalize on the convictions. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.280 Still going to be a tight race, but President Trump 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.600 has laid the groundwork here. I think it's going to 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.240 be up to the Biden campaign to figure out where 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.519 and when they need to push back on this now 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.919 that he's finally been convicted. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:25.560 Because it really is a huge deal. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.359 Democratic strategist Kristin Hahn added that Democrats need to focus 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.839 on fundraising between now and the conventions. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.840 Well, Karen, President Biden's twenty twenty four campaign has already 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.560 put out fundraising appeals following the verdict. Then it released 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.200 a statement in response saying it showed no one is 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.120 above the law, adding that quote, there is still only 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.160 one way to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.560 office at the ballot box, Nathan. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.200 We also heard from Trump and Biden's political rival, Independent 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:52.800 presidential candidate Robert F. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:53.720 Kennedy Junior. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.560 He told it crowdon Austin last night, the outcome will 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.800 actually benefit the former president. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.760 My belief that it will end up helping President Trump 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.640 among America a large part of American public. 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.040 Who believes that. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:15.480 The judicial system and the enforcement system have been weaponized. 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.120 Independent Robert F. Kennedy Junior also called the verdict amos 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.760 steak that will politically backfire on Democrats and Karen. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.960 We continue to watch the political fallout in the nation's capital. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.599 We get that part of the story from Bloomberg's Amy Morris. 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:29.479 In Washington. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.760 The Biden Harris campaign released a statement saying, quote, we 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.640 saw that no one is above the law. House Speaker 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.359 Mike Johnson posted on x that quote. Today is a 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.800 shameful day in American history. Bloomberg's Megan Scully says, lawmakers 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.040 on Capitol Hill are all in campaign mode, and this 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:47.720 guilty verdict is a factor. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.800 We have tons of legislation coming to the floor that 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.359 are messaging votes, things that are never going. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.760 To become law, but that are good. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.599 For their candidates to vote on. And I think that 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:03.840 there will certainly be some messaging legislation targeted at supporting 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:04.480 Donald Trump. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.880 Bloomberg's Megan's Gully on Bloomberg's balance of power in Washington. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.440 Amy Morris, Bloomberg Radio. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.600 All right, Amy, thank you well. We do also have 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.760 some important news in the markets today. All eyes are 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.880 on a key data point. It's at an eight thirty 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.039 am Wall Street time. The PCE deflator, the Fed's preferred 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.520 inflation gauge, and Bloomberg's Michael McKee has a preview for 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:23.920 the Fed. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.760 PCE inflation is the number. They're two percent inflation target 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.760 is based on the PCE. The good news is this 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.360 measure of inflation is expected to tick down at least 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.320 on a year over year basis, suggesting the central Bank 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.760 is still making progress on its goal. Some analysts think 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.880 the core rate could even come in lower month over month, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.359 which might lead to a strong market reaction. What it 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.159 won't do up or down is change forecasts. For the 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.479 fed's next meeting on June twelfth, Policymakers have made it 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.360 clear they'll need more than one good report to start 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.920 considering any change in rates. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Radio. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:05:59.479 Mike, thank you. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.080 We are all so following more Fed speak, this time 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.680 from New York President John Williams. He says inflation is 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.920 headed in the right direction. More in this report from 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.600 Bloomberg's John Tucker, John and. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.080 Nate Williams telling the Economic Club of New York Hey 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.400 expects inflation to continue falling in the second half of 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.320 this year and that higher borrowing costs are restraining the 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.200 economy just the way they want. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.479 The behavior of the economy of the past year provides 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.520 ample evidence that MANTE policy is restrictive in a way 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.960 that helps achieve our goals. We're seeing clear and consistent 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.719 signs of the imbalances between supply and demand in the 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.239 economy are receiving and we've seen a broad based declient 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:39.000 in inflation. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.279 Williams can't say winning support a rate cut and that 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.840 any rate increases unlikely. He sees inflation as measured by 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.640 the PCEE Price Index, falling to about two and a 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.920 half percent by year and before moving closer to their 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.520 two percent target next year. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:58.960 All right, John, thank you, and again repeating our top 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.640 story of the morning. Donald Trump is the first US 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.839 president to be found guilty in a criminal trial. We 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.159 will have coverage for you of this historic moment in 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.560 American politics. All morning, long. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.440 Time now for look at some of the other stories 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.280 making news in New York and around the world. And 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.679 for that we're joined by Bloomberg. So Michael Barr, Michael, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:19.520 good morning. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.400 Good morning, Karen. Local reaction continues to come in after 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.080 former President Donald Trump was found guilty on all thirty 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.280 four counts in his hush money trial. People outside the 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.440 Manhattan court House had mixed views. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.040 It just seems to me like the fix was in, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.640 that they were out to get Trump. But I think 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.240 he's going to get more popular with the American people. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.480 I am feeling emotional because I have six grandchildren and 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.960 I want the United States to be for them what 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.240 it was for me, which you know is a baby boomer, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.920 which is growing up with presidents that you can admire 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.000 and feel safe with and look up to. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.520 Democratic Governor Kathy Okles said in a statement, Today's verdict 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.720 reaffirms that no one is above the law. Republican Representative 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.240 Nicole Meliatakis, who represents New York's eleventh congressional districts, at 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.480 in a statement, Today's verdict is a complete but sadly 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:16.240 unsurprising miscarriage of justice. In Connecticut, flags are being flown 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.320 at half staff after a state trooper was killed by 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.000 a hit and run driver on Interstate eighty four yesterday afternoon. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:28.120 Trooper Aaron Pellieteer was performing a traffic stop when police 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.440 say another vehicle crossed into the right shoulder, striking and 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:37.000 killing Pellioteer. That driver later taken into custody after their 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:41.800 vehicle became disabled. Connecticut State Police Colonel Daniel Lackman, he. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.120 Was a role model to younger troopers, and he set 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.800 a high standard for them to follow, but he was 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:47.559 much more than that. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.160 Aaron was a loving husband and a father of two 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:50.800 young children. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.600 Lieutenant Governor Susan Biswitz. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:59.480 He was trying to reduce highway crashes and fatalities when 0:08:59.520 --> 0:08:59.960 he died. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.400 So far, charges against the driver who hit Trooper Pelletier 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.480 have not been revealed. A Minnesota police officer was killed 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.680 when he responded to a shooting call and was providing 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.920 medical attention to a man who shot him in what 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:20.520 authorities are calling an ambush. Minneapolis Assistant Police Chief Katie Blackwell, this. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.640 Has been a terrible day for our agency and in 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.040 law enforcement, and it's happening all too. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.880 Frequently, and it affects so many. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.000 The suspected gunmen and another person were also killed in 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.679 the shooting. Truckers have joined in the fight against congestion 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.200 pricing in Manhattan. The Trucking Association of New York file 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.760 to federal lawsuit against the MTA. They argue the toll 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.720 plan unconstitutionally targets the trucking industry. Under the MTA plan, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.800 set to start in late June, trucks will be charged 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.920 between twenty four to thirty six dollars per trip. Drivers 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.400 or passenger cars will pay about fifteen dollars. Global News 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.800 twenty four hours a day, and when you want it 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.840 with the Bloomberg News Now, Michael Barn, This is Bloomberg Karen. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:10.640 All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.000 Bloomberg Sports Update with John stash Hour. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.720 John, Good morning, A right, Good morning Karen. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.120 Now they're close one between the Rangers and Panthers after 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.280 three straight overtime games, scoreless first period in Game five 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.160 of the Garden, Chris Crider got his first goal of 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.200 the series, I short handed breakaway two minutes into the second. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.920 Panthers tied it, took the lead midway through the third. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.439 They added an empty netter. Alexis La Frontier scored in 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.200 the final minute, but Florida won three to two and 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.000 now leading the series three to two. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.800 The Rangers coach is Peter Lobolette. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.560 Wasn't going to be wide open and we were going 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.680 to have forty chances a night, so we need to 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.360 capitalize on some of the ones that we did generate, 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.600 and you know, we were unable to do that tonight. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.240 It was like I said, it was, it was tight. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.160 The game was tight. I thought we had looks. I 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.440 thought we had chances. They didn't go in. It came 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:57.839 down to. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.679 One goal Game six tomorrow and South order. The NBA 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.319 Finals are set Boston against Dallas. The Celtics top seeds 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.040 in the East, the MAVs with a five seed in 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.680 the West. They dismantled Minnesota in Game five one twenty 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.840 four to one oh three. Wasn't that close. Maps shot 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.000 sixty one percent, led by twenty nine had halftime. Both 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.000 Luca Donson's and Kyrie Irving scored thirty six points. It's 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.920 the MAVs first trip of the Finals since winning the 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.880 championship in twenty eleven. Yankees moved twenty games over five hundred. 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.559 At the Angels in Anaheim eight to three, Aaron Judge 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.320 homerd Yanks broke it open with a five run seventh 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.880 thitting that included a three run triple by Juan Soto. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.920 Much needed win for the Mets after losing fifteen of nineteen. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.280 They rallied the top Arizona City Field three to two. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.760 Francisco Lindora had four hits, including. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:39.880 The home run. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:40.120 J D. 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.199 Martinez's homer in the eighth put the Mets ahead. Red 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.400 Sox held the two hits, lost to Detroit five nothing. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.400 Nationals won three to one. In Atlanta, the French Opendovak 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.520 Djokovic advanced sod the Americans Taylor Fritz and Tommy Paul 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.000 At the US Women's Open Golf Lancaster. Pia Nelly cord 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.800 of the big favorites. She's won six of her last 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.960 seven tournaments, but in opening round eighty because Corda had 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.440 on the par three third holes, you put it in 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:03.959 the water three times. 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.880 John staff Shell or Bloomberg Sports. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.480 Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.480 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.920 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:19.600 Good Morning. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.840 I'm Nathan Hager on a morning after a former president 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.000 and a major party candidate in the next president audential 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.840 election became a convicted felon for the first time in 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.520 American history. The guilty verdicts for Donald Trump come with 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.320 legal and political implications, so let's get right to it. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.600 Joining us now, Bloomberg News legal reporter Eric Larson, who 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.160 was in the Manhattan courthouse as those verdicts came down. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.640 Eric Good Morning, paid a picture for us because listening 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.000 from the outside, we heard the verdicts come down like 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.680 Domino's one after the other. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.240 Guilty on count one, two, three, etc. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.960 What was it like inside the courtroom as the jury 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.400 foreman read out those verdicts. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.760 It was a very solemn moment. There was quite a 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.680 bit of tension, you know. The former president was there 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:11.360 with his entire legal team and many supporters, including his son. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.400 The district attorney was there with many of his prosecutors, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.920 and of course there was a lot of press passed 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:23.000 into that courtroom. The jury filed out, and the jury 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.600 foreman was asked to stand up and read out the 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.560 finding for each of the thirty four counts, and he 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:33.000 just read out guilty thirty four times in a row. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:39.160 It was pretty unexpected. Actually, everyone in the court courtroom 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.559 believed that they were about to be excused for the 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.080 day around four point thirty in the afternoon, because that's 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.199 when the jury was supposed to wrap up, and there 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.040 was no indication they were going to stay late. The 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.480 judge had everyone gather, said he was about to dismiss 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.720 the jury, left the courtroom for a few minutes and 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.400 came back and said, well, actually they have a verdict. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:05.760 So it was quite a surprise. Trump had a very solemn, 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.960 you could say, potentially angry look, on his face more 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.079 so than during most of the trial, and walked out 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:18.200 of the courtroom without glancing at anyone anyone, any members 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.440 of the press, as he had done many times throughout 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.800 the trial. He just had a stoic look on his 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.000 face and walked out. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.840 Oh he certainly saw and heard that anger and frustration 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.920 following the verdict as he came out to address reporters 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.960 last evening, and he's promising to fight on all the way. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.840 What could that fight look like? 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.480 What could the appeals process look like for the former president? 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.360 You know, it's an appealed process that can't technically start 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:53.560 until he is sentenced. That's on July eleventh, So it's 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.000 not until he finds out how much time he'll spend 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.800 in prison, if any not until then will he actually 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.600 be able to start his appeal. That could drag on 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:05.600 for a while. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:10.480 I've been told by legal experts though, that in many cases, 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:15.440 individuals who are convicted for crimes like this are sent 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.760 to jail if there is a prison term while they appeal. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.000 You know, because the idea being that just because someone 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.880 is appealing, they shouldn't be able to drag out the 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:32.640 consequences of a jury's verdict by simply appealing and dragging 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.440 that out as long as possible. So it remains to 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.960 be seen whether or not he would be allowed to 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.640 remain free during the appeal. It also remains to be 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.560 seen if the judge will even sentence him to any 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.680 time behind bars. Of course, probation is an option. There's 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.880 no mandatory sentence, and for prison here, the maximum, of 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:56.560 course is four years, But experts have said that even 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.720 if he is sentenced to an incarceory period, that have 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:04.760 been nothing near that. Trump is a first time offender here. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.120 This isn't a kind of crime that involved traditional types 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.200 of victims, so the judge has some leeway if he 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.800 wants to give him a sentence that does not involve 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:14.920 time behind bars. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.480 Are we expecting to hear from the jury. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.320 Yeah, that's a million dollar question here. Obviously, the jury 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:28.200 was an anonymous jury, very rare, usually reserved for cases 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.480 involving you know, the mafia, or terrorism cases, something where 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.440 the jury is in real danger. And the prosecutors argued, 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.840 and the judge agreed that this jury should be anonymous 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.239 for their own safety. Given Trump's track record of attacking 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:47.440 people involved in the cases against him, and as he 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.920 did throughout the case. Of course, Trump was threatened with 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:55.000 jail during the trial for violating a gag order multiple 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.640 times that was intended to protect the safety of the 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:02.160 jury and the witnesses. On the judge made it very 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.000 clear to Trump that if he violated that gag order 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.399 again he would put him in jail, even if it 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.320 meant having his Secret Service, you know, in there with him. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.240 He said, I will do this, uh, and that that 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.439 that blocked, that stops Trump from doing that. So you 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.960 can see that how serious it was. But on the 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.920 after the verdict was handed down, the judge told the 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.160 jury everything all the rules that I've told you about 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.879 not talking to anyone, you know, including the press or 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.800 your family, that's all lifted. Now you can do what 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.280 you want. But you can imagine some of the jurors 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.040 might be torn here. Some would want to protect their safety, 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.600 the safety of their families. It's no uh, it's no surprise. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:43.879 You know. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.600 Trump has a lot of supporters and some of them 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.360 have resorted in violence in the past, and they're very 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.000 going to be very upset about this conviction. But there 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.480 might be other jurors who are willing to take that 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.840 risk and want to, you know, tell America what they 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.480 were thinking and when they came to this verdict. Why. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.639 One more thing to watch is we continue to follow 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.280 the ramifications of these guilty verdicts for the former president. Eric, 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.280 thank you for this. Eric Larson, legal reporter for Bloomberg News, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.880 who was in the courtroom as those verdicts came down. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.159 We want to look at the political impact now with 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.000 Greg Valier joining US now chief US policy strategist at 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.600 AGF Investments, Greg, good morning. When I heard those verdicts 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.439 came down last evening, the image that came to my 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.040 mind was from actually several years ago when former President 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:33.800 Trump was in the White House and he held up 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:38.480 the newspaper after he was acquitted an impeachment. Obviously, he's 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.040 not holding up any newspapers this morning. What are the 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:46.280 political impacts of a criminal conviction, a felony conviction for 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.200 a former president? 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.400 Well, good morning, Nathan. We're really in uncharted waters right now. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.960 Obviously nothing like this has ever happened in the US, 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.639 so it may be a few weeks before public opinion shells. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.000 Will the public say this is just a witch hunt 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.639 against Trump, or will the public say we got Trump fatigue. 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.040 We need to get rid of this guy. So I 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.440 don't think that the public has really solidified its opinion 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:13.359 just yet. 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.560 Well, we did get some snap polls from you gov 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.560 moments after the verdicts came down. Whether Trump got a 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.600 fair trial yes by ten points. Whether they agree that 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.439 he's guilty yes by twenty points. Obviously get very different 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:31.000 margins when you break it down by party. Could that 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.240 translate into how Americans vote in November? 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.320 It could? And I've been making the point for the 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.919 last few days that the biggest, next biggest story is 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.399 on June twenty seventh. That's the first debate between Biden 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.040 and Trump. I think that's going to be pivotal. If 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.880 Trump looks rusty and stumbles at all, that could hurt him. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.600 If Biden has a gaff which he's been known to do, 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.760 that could hurt him. I think the rest of the 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.480 election the tone will be set on June twenty seventh. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.400 I'm so glad you mentioned the debate. It's coming up 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.879 in less than four weeks, and you have to think 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.800 that even several weeks after the verdict, this is going 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.880 to overshadow everything, isn't it. 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.240 Yeah, the first debate four years ago got thirteen million people. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.840 I think they could get twenty million. This is going 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.960 to be such a highly anticipated debate, so with twenty 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.760 million people, there's an opportunity for either candidate to gain 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.960 a point or two and that could sort of set 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:30.520 the tone for the rest of the fault. 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:35.200 How does the political punditry handle something like this when 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.679 the major party candidate on one side of the aisle 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:40.440 is a convicted felon. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.240 Yeah, I know it's awkward for people, but it's worth 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:50.200 noting that the Republicans are, in my opinion, extraordinarily well unified. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.040 Maybe twenty percent of the Republicans have some doubts, but 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.320 I think Trump has really strong support in his own party, 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.920 and I think the overwhelming view is that he hasn't 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:01.080 been treated failure. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:06.560 Core support from core voters obviously, and we've seen Republican 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:12.000 elected officials pretty much all in all lineup behind not 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.159 just supporting the president, but adopting a lot of his 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.639 rhetoric about the rigged nature as the former president puts it. 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:22.880 Of this case, is there a risk for Republicans if 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:27.480 they continue to criticize the system that it could backfire 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:27.840 on them. 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.680 Absolutely, great point, Nathan. I think there are other issues too, 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.399 like abortions. So I think it's still way premature to 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.600 write off Joe Biden. I realize he has many flaws 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.560 and a lot of the issues are broken against him, 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:45.720 but I think that Biden still has a shot if 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.400 the Republicans are playing this incorrectly and just quickly. 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.280 How do you see the Biden campaign handling this. We've 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.119 seen a kind of a tepid statement up to this point. 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.520 But do you see whether the Biden campaign can sort 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.560 of shift the advantage that former President Trump has managed 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.440 to make from pretty much all the legal issues he's had. 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.560 Yeah, they can, But my lord, you look at Biden 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.639 only ahead modestly in New York State. You look at 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.600 Biden groveling for support among black voters. These are things 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.359 that a Democrat shouldn't even have to worry about. So 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.160 Biden still has a lot of ground to make up. 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.040 But I do think there's a chance that the Republicans 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.080 could overplay their hand with Donald Trump. 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:33.800 Thanks Greg, as always, Greg VALUERCHIFS Policy Strategist, AGF Investments. 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.320 Now a look at the front pages. What's making news 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.880 around the world, Your daily roundup of today's headlines from 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:43.000 major publications. 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.480 Sen Bloomberg's Lisa Mateo is here with the front page 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.159 round up. Obviously, every front page around the world is 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.080 focused on the Trump verdicts, but we had a big 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.800 take story from Bloomberg News as well that says, despite 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.119 the guilty verdicts, Lisa wall Street, billionaires are rushing to 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.240 back the former president. 0:22:58.280 --> 0:22:59.159 Good morning, Yeah they are. 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.040 Good morning. Nathan's so Amid Malik. He's president of seventeen 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.760 eighty nine Capital. He co hosted a fundraiser for Trump 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.640 at the Pierre Hotel on Fifth Avenue before the verdict, 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.560 and he said that the outcome would have less than 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.600 zero impact on his support. 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:11.800 Now. 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:16.359 The fundraiser also hosted by billionaire Howard Lutnick. Hours before 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.199 the verdict, hedge fund investor Bill Ackman was said to 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.800 be leaning toward backing the former president. Then you have 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.679 private equity Mogel. Longtime Republican donor Steven Schwarzman said he 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.280 was getting behind Trump again. I mean a big reason 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.520 for the support that you'll see through this article. It 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.920 says that it's money. Trump has promised to cut taxes 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:37.080 for the wealthy, eliminate regulations. President Joe Biden wants the opposite. 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.200 Yeah. Also an article here in the New York Post 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:43.840 Lisa about Trump's campaign donation page which crashed after the verdict. 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.280 Yeah, it did less than an hour after he was convicted. 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.400 His campaign wrote on x that the wind red pages 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.960 it went down trumpetviter Chris Lasavida. He said the outage 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.800 was due to quote millions of American patriots wanting to 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.280 donate to Donald Trump's campaign. Then you had Lee Zelden, 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.480 a Trump campaign sarrogate. He's also a former Long Island congressman. 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.600 He posted on X that one of Trump's campaign committees 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:10.240 reportedly secured an eight hundred thousand dollars donation shortly after 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.960 the verdict. What might have overwhelmed the site? Well, the 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.359 juries after the jury's decision, there was a post on 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.960 Truth social from the Trump National Committee. It said that 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.440 it called him a political prisoner. It said that your 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.800 support is the only thing sitting between us and the 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.400 total tyranny. But that website, it was back online about 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.080 a half hour after it went down. 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.600 And speaking of true socially, so the post is also 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:34.240 pointing out that shares of that social media apps parent 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:35.960 company tumbled after the verdict. 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.560 Yeah, so this morning, shares of Trump Median Technology Group 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.600 that's the owner of Yes Truth Social still lower before 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.919 the bell. They're down about seven percent right now. 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