165. We love Kristen and Luke's love; Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Reunion; David Beador's restraining order

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Unknown: That's the thing about
Kristen, like, she just

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naturally has a funny way about
her. She's not trying to be

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funny. She doesn't self produce
herself. She just is so

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entertaining. It's like the
difference between her a Stasi a

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page. It's like, what makes
somebody a natural reality star

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that we want to watch like
people often would say, like

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Paige is a good example on
summer house, like she's not

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even doing anything, but yet,
like we're all tuning in to see

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her, because she's just got a
way about her, obviously,

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totally different than Kristen,
right? Her way, Kristen's way,

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right? Different.

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Welcome to cocktails and gossip,
the podcast where we drink

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cocktails, but you better
believe we're going to spill the

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tape. We chat reality TV
celebrity blinds and the hottest

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tea from bravococktails.com and
as always, it's all alleged. And

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just for fun, we do not verify
our blinds. I'm B

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and I'm Amanda. Let's get into
this week's team.

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What's up? Cocktail ers, Amanda,
people are loving your hat with

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the upside down cocktail, yay. I
don't know how you saw my order,

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but I had a few any drinks and I
ordered, how many? Did I order

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20? Oh, God,

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I need to go back and look I
was, I did see it come through.

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It was when I was traveling.
Maybe, yes, I

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feel like I want to, like,
personally, mail a couple,

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oh,

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to cocktail ers, because I
obviously, I would have been

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able to just pick a couple
cocktails and then have this

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apparel company

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ship it. Yeah, I

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was gonna, I went ahead and
ordered, I think 15 to 20, I

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can't remember. I was like,
everybody needs this. And my

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sister in law, who's also
drinking, was like, Oh, my God,

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I need one. And I'm like, Yes,
you do. And then I'm like, Well,

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my brother will wear it. My
husband will wear it. My other

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sister in law will wear it. Oh,
I gotta give it for my cousins.

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So I feel like I could have two
to three cocktails. So I'll

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make a post about that. That'll
be fun. I mean, who doesn't need

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a hat that says cocktails on it?
Yeah? Cocktails and then the

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back says cocktails and gossip,
yeah? So we love it, yeah? So

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fun. Well, happy, Fourth of
July, everybody. I am happy to

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say, Guys, despite bees worrying
about me, I survived a summer

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vacation with water sports. And
although I was good about like

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not drinking before, not
drinking too much before I wake

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surfed, did not get hurt. Sent
be a picture of me up on the

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weak surfboard that said I
didn't die.

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Yeah, after she sent me a
picture of the surf sides, which

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I highly recommend. Aren't they
so good? They're so

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good. So we've tried the sun
cruisers, which are also really

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good. But you're right. Those
surf sides are just like an iced

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tea, yeah, alcohol, like, you
don't taste the alcohol really,

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they're really good.

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They're kind of dangerous. Oh,
they're only 4.5% so they're not

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really dangerous. But in the
sun, if you have a couple, it's

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like a nice it's a nice vibe you
feel having What are you guys

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doing? You are the fourth house.
How is vacation? It's good.

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It is hot. So many flights were
canceled. We got out, but a lot

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of our we had family and friends
meeting us here. Some made it,

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some didn't. We're just, we're
going to be grilling, chilling,

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watching fireworks on the beach,
like low key. There's a lot of

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us, so it's like easier just to
do that than to try to organize,

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because we're organizing meals
every other night. Shout out to

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our follower, Joanne, who got me
into Louis bossey. I love Louie

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bossy in Fort Lauderdale. Oh,
and she's told me before that

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she she works there, so when I'm
down here, I always shoot her a

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DM, and she gets me in because
it's like a popular place, it's

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hard to get in. So thank you,
Joanne,

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and you got, I'm sure she got
you a sizable group, and not

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just you, right?

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Yes, it was supposed to be
bigger, but some of our friends

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were their flight was canceled,
so I think it was 16 of us.

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Yeah, so it was good. I know
we're always like, Amanda

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laughs, because it's always all
deep lady, it's ridiculous. It's

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so ridiculous. Well, my
daughter's like, Can we order

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soul bowls? And I'm like, not
for 20 people, like, not on my

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phone. Adios,

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yeah, yeah, keep on moving,
lady. Yeah, that's what I say to

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my kids. They're like, No, no, I
will run you. If you're dying

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for whatever, I will run. Get it
for you. But yeah, I'm so

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excited. I love the Fourth of
July. What are you guys doing?

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We are having some friends and
family here at the house. I we

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will be doing some fireworks,
driveway, fireworks that are

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illegal, but nothing like
nothing too crazy because we

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have too many trees. But I love
doing i. Driveway fireworks.

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That's my favorite.

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Of course you do, and I'm the
one who sits in the house. Our

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friends always, if we're not
away, they throw a big party.

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Some years we're here, some
years we're home, and her

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husband does like real deal
fireworks in the middle of the

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street, and I literally stay
inside and watch from the

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window.

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Yeah, I love to do like, the
real big ones. But we just,

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like, I said, we have too many
trees. I grew up in the Midwest

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where you like, that's what you
do on the Fourth of July. It's

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more about the driveway show
than it is about going to, like,

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a big public display. So

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down here they do it like, I
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beach, somewhere out in the
water. So that's

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cool. Yeah. So, yeah. No fire
risk, no fire risk. Okay, so

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really good week of TB this
week, starting with Kristen and

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Luke getting engaged on the
valley. Finally, a light and

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happy moment after a mostly dark
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So dark. We'll get to that. So
thrilled for her. And in real

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time, we know that Kristen and
Luke welcomed their daughter.

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And I think we mentioned it on
here, but I have to say it

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again. I joked a lot last season
about how Luke was weird and I

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didn't like him. I have
completely changed my mind. He

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makes Kristen so happy, and more
than happy he makes her feel

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it's she seems so settled and in
her natural way with him, yeah,

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like a really stable, good
partner who loves her, for her,

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who doesn't try to, like, calm
her or change her, thrilled for

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her, her engagement, the birth
of their daughter. We did see

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him a little bit bug out the
night before. Listen, his

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grandmother was sick, combined
with the nerves that we know

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must come with the guy having to
ask and everything, yeah, but

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Amanda Kristen digging her heels
in about not showering like you

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see Nia texting her pictures.
Nia. Nia is so cute and sweet

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and like, I think it's
authentic. Oh, I 100%

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think you can't put on an act
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Nia is one of those people who
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people and wants the best for
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somebody sent me a DM yesterday.
I shared it to stories that they

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spotted Danny, I guess, leaving
the church they attend, they

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said with an older woman, either
his mother or his mother in law,

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and that he was just like, so
sweet. And they said, Hello, and

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they're just sweet people. And
so you see, Luke's looking at

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her like, Oh my God, you're not
gonna shower. We're about to get

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engaged. But that's the thing
about Kristen, like, she's just

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naturally has a funny way about
her. She's not trying to be

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funny. She doesn't self produce
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entertaining. It's like the
difference between her a Stasi a

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page. It's like, what makes
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that we want to watch? Like
people often would say, like,

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Paige is a good example on
summer house, like she's not

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even doing anything, but yet,
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her, because she's just got a
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totally different than Kristen,
right, her way and Kristen's

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way, right, different. But

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I just see what you mean,
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yeah, like, so they don't need a
storyline, because their

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personalities just are, like,

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authentic, yeah, because, I
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Kristen's sitting in there on
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she's gonna be on camera on this
boat ride, and still I'm not

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gonna shower. Yes, most reality
stars would have glam, or at the

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very least, put an hour and a
half into their appearance

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knowing that they're going on a
sunset boat cruise. This is why

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we love Kristen. And honestly, I
really felt for Luke, because

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again, like thinking from his
perspective, can you imagine

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trying to propose to someone
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and producers? And

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he's really new to reality
television, so he's not as used

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to filming as say, Kristen or
Brittany.

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Yeah. And then there's not to
mention the, I don't know, eight

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other people who are completely
unpredictable along for this

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trip. I can't imagine how
nervous he was. Let's discuss

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Janet and her reaction to
finding out that Kristen and

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Luke got engaged, and that the
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them. So Zach calls her, and
Janet, at first was like, okay,

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you know to say, like, hey,
Kristen and Luke got engaged.

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They're coming back on the boat.
We're throwing them a surprise

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party. And then Janet says, You
know what, we're just not we

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won't go to the party. But then
you can see her start to spiral

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in her head, and she's like, we
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next day either. And it quickly
becomes clear that Janet's offer

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to step out of the surprise
party was not a consideration

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thing, but it was more her
actually being piss. Stopped

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because she realized that the
trip was all about Kristen and

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Luke. I'm starting to think
Janet is the kind of person who

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would wear white to a wedding
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I bet she would. You know, she
immediately is like, Oh, how

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about when she was like, this is
the longest I've ever left my

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son, girl, he's a few months
old. He isn't a 12 year old. You

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haven't overcome a fear of
leaving your child at the age of

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15, and regardless, what does
that have to do with anything

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she's so pissed, as you said,
spiraling, throwing a tantrum,

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saying how she can't do any
activities anymore because it is

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now Kristen's trip. I also
thought it was very funny to

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watch Jason get annoyed at it,
like, What are you talking

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about? We could skip dinner
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excluded. We decided not to go,
and tomorrow we can hang out.

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And I it was, it's about
Kristen. It was Janet realizing,

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oh my god, this makes Kristen
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all people headlines and all the
headlines are going to be that

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she's got engaged and she's not
even pregnant yet. She must have

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really spiraled when she heard
she was pregnant. Yeah, she's

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thinking to herself, the
audience is gonna love Kristen

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and be so happy for her and
Luke, and she's just such a

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bitter Betty it. I think the
reason that all of us have a

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dislike for her is because you
can be a person, and I'm gonna

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bring up your B, E, C, Sheena,
who has annoying traits or who

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has faults, as all of us do.
None of us are perfect, but then

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there are some people who just
don't have good intentions and

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are mean spirited, and her
husband is no better. And I did

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find it funny. It almost seemed
like he was petrified that he

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was going to be stuck hanging
out alone with her on the rest

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of the trip, and he was
basically begging her to do

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group events, which I think is,
I've said, like, I think they

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have more of a boring
relationship than, like,

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anything going on there. But I
don't know about you, if you're

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happily married and you have a
beautiful hotel room in Hawaii,

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would it be the worst thing for
your wife to be like, You know

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what I mean, aside from the fact
that she's acting like a baby

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and throwing a tantrum. But you
know what? Like, let's charter

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our own boat. Let's go to our
own dinner, like I would, kind

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of welcome that with my husband.
So I think it's very telling

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that Jason isn't interested in
spending a couple of days alone

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with just her. Or does he love
the camera time so much too?

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What I think it is, yeah, he
realizes that if they don't go

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they lose another day of camera
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Wow, yeah, so it's important to
him clearly,

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and he acts like it's not, and
he's just there to support Janet

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and, you know, he's a lawyer and
whatever, but he's, he's eating

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it up. I completely agree. So
also, cocktails have known for

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quite a long time that it was on
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so Erin is Michelle's new
boyfriend, that they actually

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are both on the trip, that they
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up being kind of buddy buddy,
which we also know that really

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pissed off Michelle behind the
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that sometimes the spoilers,
like, I think, make the watching

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the show more fun, and then
this, yeah, it did, because just

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watching that whole scene where
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him whether they were together
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to Jesse and Michelle splitting
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take on this whole situation and
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I'm gonna give my take. But I
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point out Michelle's reaction to
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genuinely happy for her, even
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had issues with Kristen and
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Aaron's ex girlfriend, or who we
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And she had her own reasons. You
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gotten very close to Jesse. She
didn't throw a fit it. She

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seemed genuinely happy. So
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although I have my issues with
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like mean spirited through and
through. She's also going

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through a very contentious
divorce, which gives her and her

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mother was dying during this
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happy, happily married with a
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So credit where credit's due?
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interesting. You know, Aaron
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happened, but we did text a few
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each other. So like, at a
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situation. I don't think Jesse
is off base here. Jesse did not

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want this divorce. Jesse wanted
to work it out. And I'm not

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saying that Michelle should have
worked it out. I'm just saying

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we see where Jesse's coming
from. I see Jesse is wrong. I

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see Michelle is wrong. I do feel
that Aaron to Jesse's face,

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makes things okay, but we
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bringing up all the bad things
Jesse has done. And I do feel

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like him and Michelle know that
it's easy to get a reaction and

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make Jesse look bad on camera,
and they just go there. So I

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think all parties, and that
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Jesse's girlfriend, who, again,
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We've seen her on camera. We
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Michelle and her new boyfriend
have to be willing to, like, put

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down the petty swords and move
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Isabella. I mean, and I can't
help but feel like everybody on

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this show Jax and Brittany and
then, like, they're just

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weaponizing these little kids.
And it's like, actually, do it?

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Stop talking about how important
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kids and like, try to be good
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easy. I know it's not easy. I'm
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I don't agree with you that
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really do feel like Brittany has
been doing her best to act in

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Cruz's best interest, because we
know, like Jax didn't actually

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reach out to see him, right? And
that he's had a drug problem,

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he's been violent, and that she
has let him see the see him just

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supervise. And I think since
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But I think Jesse, I think Jesse
had a really valid point about

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posting on Father's Day, about
Aaron posting his daughter,

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Jesse's daughter on Father's
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anything, I think Aaron was kind
of weaponizing Isabella a little

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bit in that situation. But I
think it's really clear that

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everybody really loves Isabella.
I think they're maybe fighting

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over who loves her more and
who's better for her. But even

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Michelle says like he's a good
he's a good dad. I think where

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things become problematic is
when you know if the parents are

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talking badly about the other
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and we don't know if that's
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to say I think Isabella might be
the most beautiful child I've

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ever seen. She's

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really beautiful. She's so
gorgeous. She's just so cute.

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And she's Yeah, I mean, Michelle
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Jesse's cute too. Yeah. So I
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combination of both of them. I
see a lot of both of them in her

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I see Michelle, and then I also
see Jesse, and, like, the

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lighter eyes. And, yeah,

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yeah. I guess the question
becomes, will Jesse, will he

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follow through on his promise to
respect Aaron and Michelle and

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their relationship? And I'm
guessing that's a

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no. Yeah, I'm guessing that's a
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So it is. As you guys know, it's
Fourth of July weekend, which

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means summer house is starting
to film. So hearing a lot of

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chatter about who the additions
will be, I really I really I

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want to know what the inside tea
is. We got. We heard that Amanda

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betulla said one of the new cast
members is somebody that we

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already know.

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So of course, it had me and the
cocktail is going down rabbit

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holes in the DMS. And we had
told you guys last year in

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cocktail party that Brian Benny,
who was on family karma and

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winter house was on the short
list, but that they wanted him

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to move to New York. I don't
know why that didn't work out,

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but obviously he wasn't on last
season. So I assume that's a

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possibility. Not that I've heard
that he's planning to be on this

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season, but if it was a
possibility last year, people

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are saying, Schwartz, ah, I
don't see them adding him full

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time. I think that ship has
sailed. I don't think they would

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add someone older to the cast.
Yeah, I could be wrong, but I

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just don't see it. And then, of
course, we had some of you guys

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saying, oh my god, what if it's
Dylan Efron, who was on traders,

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who's Zach Efron's beautiful,
sweet brother, we'd all love

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it the most. Yes, I just,

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I think that's I think that's
wishful thinking. So you guys

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will know if you're in the
cocktail party. I received an

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email with names, and I will
make that public once we know

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who's on some of the names. And
you guys already know this about

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Amanda and I but it bears
repeating that if the person

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that if I get a name, like I did
with Rhode Island housewives,

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and the person is not at all a
public figure, I'm not gonna put

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their name on a post. Thanks to
you guys, our website gets

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millions of hits a month. I
don't think it's appropriate to

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put Jane Smith's name publicly
saying they're gonna be on a

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reality show based off a rumor.
If you're in the public arena

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already, then, yeah, I'm gonna
share your name like Dylan

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Efron. So one of the names on
there is a guy whose brother was

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on a reality show, and the
family is famous all over Tiktok

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so his name is Steven Sansone. I
think that's how I say it. I'm

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only saying his name cuz
apparently the pair, the

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family's very famous tiktokers,
not that I know them. Can't even

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think of the name of the reality
show The brother was on. So do I

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think that maybe Amanda was
teasing this, hoping we would

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all be like, Oh my God, it's
Brian Betty. It's Dylan Ephron.

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And really, it's somebody that
some fans may know because

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they're an adjacent reality
tell. Vision family member with

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a big tick tock following. I
think it's possible. I mean,

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Amanda and Kyle. This is their
livelihood. This is their 10th

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season. This is they are the
king and the queen of summer

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house. So she's gonna use her
fan base and her interviews to

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get people interested in talking
about her show, as anybody

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would. I don't think that her
saying that means that it is a

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big name that we're all going to
know immediately. Does that make

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sense?

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Yeah, yeah. Well, I think we'll
find out soon enough, because

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the cocktails are also very good
about being in the Hamptons at

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the right time and selling these
pictures. Yes, so yeah, it'll

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be, it'll This is the weekend,
guys that we always start to get

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even more tea flowing in. So the
secret lives of Mormon wives

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reunion came on Hulu this week.
So I have to say, I was actually

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really surprised, because you
guys have heard us talk about

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how I feel like the show kind of
dragged a little bit this

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season, like that the drama was
good, but that it felt like each

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episode could have been shorter,
but this it was about an hour

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and a half. I think I watched it
in a couple of sittings, and

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there was a lot more juicy, a
lot more juicy revelations that

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we definitely hadn't heard
before, some like more just good

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salacious gossip and then some
sad stuff. Nick Fayol was the

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host. I have, like, mostly, I
think, mostly positive feelings

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about him and the job that he
did. I think overall, he did a

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good job, but he definitely
shows his biases, which, if you

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think about it, so does Andy and
so do you know, so do some of

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the other good hosts. I think he
like, I mean, watching Nick

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versus like a Nick and Vanessa
Lachey on love is blind like

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Nick file blows it out of the
water. So just to give you guys

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some like frame of reference,

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yeah, you know, I think people
are very critical of him, and

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I'm not sure why. Maybe because
they didn't like him on his

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season of The Bachelor. I don't,
I didn't watch it, right? So I

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know him from his podcast, and I
know him from this reunion. He

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doesn't bother me. I, I do agree
that he shows his biases a

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little bit. I think he's a good
host. I think he's good in this

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role. Yeah, I'm fine with him,

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yeah. And he, you know, he asks,
he's not afraid to ask the hard

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questions on his pod or on the
show, which is good. So before

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we get into all the stuff that
happens with the cast, I learned

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some things. You guys know that
I am very interested in

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religion. I think Mormon culture
is really interesting. So I

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learned some things, I'm
guessing maybe you did too that

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I hadn't heard of. So we've
heard that unmarried Mormon

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couples will engage in soaking,
which guys, by the way, like I'm

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gonna use some terms here. So if
you're in the car with your

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kids, just just hit the you
know, fast forward mark for a

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second. So soaking is the act of
insertion sexually, but not

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moving. Apparently, the moving
is what's considered sex. Stop

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it. Stop it. Yep. Okay, so I
knew that one, but then we also

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learned what docking and derping
are, which are both forms of dry

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humping, which I told Justin
Anderson on the podcast a couple

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of weeks ago that I find
triumphing to be a lost art. But

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the best, my most favorite, I'd
never heard of this. It's what

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they call the BYU super weekend,
where couples BYU is the

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freaking young university where
a lot of Mormons go to college.

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This is where couples go to
Vegas, get married, have sex all

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weekend, and then they have the
marriage annulled.

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Okay, so I want to not offend
anyone, but what the hell is

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this? So I too, had heard of
soaking. Okay, so all weekend

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you're gonna have sex. So
technically, being married is

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better than divorce or annulment
when it's all premeditated,

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right? Like, yeah, I think it
would be different if these wild

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kids, we know they're not
getting drunk so they have too

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much soda and they decide to get
married in the heat of the

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moment, have sex, wake up and
go, Oh, we shouldn't have done

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this. Let's get this annulled.
But when it's premeditated, I

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think that is so much worse than
just having sex before marriage

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and being safe. But I feel like,
Is this okay? So is this one of

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those things that, like, a
couple of people do it, and then

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everybody talks about it like
it's common, or is this really

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widespread? And we're gonna need
our Mormon folks, because we

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have some to let me know, and I
know that they will,

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yeah, please do. Because I
Googled it, because I was so

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entertained by this whole
concept, I didn't see a lot

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about it. So I'm, I don't know
if it's like one of the things

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that was like, back in the day
when Urban Dictionary was like,

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a bigger thing, like, maybe a
couple of people have done it

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and then they name it. I don't.
Know, yeah, but wild, I agree.

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So let's start with Taylor and
Dakota. So they tell us they're

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no longer together. They also
say to Nick though that they are

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still having sex Dakota once
more, but Taylor doesn't trust

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him, and says that she never
will, because even since the end

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of season two and before the
reunion taping, which I think

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was in April, she's heard even
more about his cheating and

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caught him lying even more, even
just weeks before the reunion.

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And like this was one of those
where I felt like Nick was way

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harder on Taylor than he was on
Dakota.

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And I also think that Dakota
wants to be with her, and Taylor

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senses this because Taylor's
making a lot of money now.

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Taylor's famous. Taylor has all
this attention, and Dakota wants

426
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,360
it, but what he doesn't want is
to be monogamous and treat her

427
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:05,400
well, and I wish she would stop
having sex with him. Yeah, I

428
00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:09,360
think that, like her
insecurities are overwhelming.

429
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,420
And I think I mean, we watched
her with her family, and we

430
00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:15,360
watched how they treated her,
and I think she just has so much

431
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:20,780
healing to do, and I wish for
her to be in therapy and to find

432
00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:25,040
that healing, and to find a
partner who values her Yeah,

433
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:32,120
and to find her own strength and
validation from within and not

434
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:37,100
seek it out in a partner, I
agree. Okay, so then we have

435
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:42,220
Jesse who cocktails. Know. Jesse
is the one who looks like Demi.

436
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,660
Jesse is the one who has a hair
salon. Cocktails know that she

437
00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:51,100
was reported. And by reported, I
mean like a cocktail. Saw her

438
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,500
making out with Marciano in
public in LA and at the end of

439
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:03,180
season two, Marciano meets with
Layla and tells Layla that

440
00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:06,120
nothing happened with Demi,
because you guys will remember

441
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,580
Demi and Marciano were acting
very, very flirty. And P there

442
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:16,320
was a lot of talk about that
during Vanderpump villa. So

443
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,440
Marciano says, nothing happens
to me, but that he slept with

444
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,220
Jesse multiple times. Nick asks
Jesse about it, and she says she

445
00:27:25,220 --> 00:27:28,700
can't talk about it because it's
a central storyline of season

446
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:29,000
three,

447
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,380
which we'll see Jesse is the one
who online accused of assaulting

448
00:27:33,380 --> 00:27:34,040
her, right?

449
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:40,900
No, no. Demi. Demi implied,
implied, okay, yes. And kind of

450
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:44,980
went with this kind of victim
route, which also gets kind of

451
00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:51,460
discussed on on the reunion,
because we hear this wild

452
00:27:51,700 --> 00:28:00,720
recording of Demi and Brett on
the phone with Jen and Zach. And

453
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Zach thought to record it, and
what, like the essentially,

454
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,080
they're like, Okay, well, here's
what you're gonna say Jen about

455
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,360
the situation. So they're
totally busted trying to cover

456
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:18,180
up the story. But Jen doesn't,
she still doesn't say what

457
00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:22,520
actually really happened. But I
think this is going to be a big

458
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:29,360
part of season three, because we
here anyway. To me, did not come

459
00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:34,040
to the reunion either, but she
did do a one on one sit down

460
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,960
with Nick before the reunion.

461
00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:39,140
If you expect me to believe that
she couldn't cancel her family

462
00:28:39,140 --> 00:28:42,700
vacation to go to the reunion
Disneyland. Yeah, that's

463
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,940
ridiculous. We all see through
that. I'm not surprised her head

464
00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:49,540
has gotten so big that she
demanded and one on one, sit

465
00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:52,900
down. I am surprised that Hulu
let her get away with it,

466
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,320
especially we know she's going
to be on Season Three. There

467
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200
just must be good drama there
that it's worth it to them.

468
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,400
Well, I think that's, I think
that's exactly what it is,

469
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,720
because I think there is, and
maybe it was almost on purpose,

470
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:10,920
because there is so much drama
there, and a lot of it is going

471
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,040
to be happening in season three,
that maybe Hulu didn't want to

472
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,400
give it

473
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,120
away. That makes sense. Yeah,
but we wanted to have a reunion,

474
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,200
because we wanted it.

475
00:29:19,619 --> 00:29:22,879
And we see in the preview for
season three, which looks so

476
00:29:22,879 --> 00:29:27,799
good, by the way, that it looks
like Demi gets accused of paying

477
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,879
Marciano off to make up the
whole thing about him and Jesse

478
00:29:32,059 --> 00:29:36,199
in order to take the heat off.
Demi and they even, Jesse is

479
00:29:36,199 --> 00:29:40,099
going to even give Marciano a
lie detector test. I mean, it's,

480
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:44,559
it's messy, yeah. So not only
did Jen and Zach have that

481
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:48,999
recording of the phone call, but
there are text messages between

482
00:29:48,999 --> 00:29:52,479
Demi and Marciano that
completely cross the line, in my

483
00:29:52,479 --> 00:29:56,499
opinion, including her talking
about swallowing, swallowing

484
00:29:56,619 --> 00:30:00,359
male ejaculate. I don't like
saying the C word send. Finding

485
00:30:00,719 --> 00:30:05,939
emojis that are a clam, eggplant
and water squirting all in a

486
00:30:05,939 --> 00:30:06,299
row.

487
00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:09,480
Yeah, Demi and Marciano
definitely hooked up, period.

488
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Yeah, those emojis you're not
sending that unless you're

489
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,220
hooking up. Her not showing up
to the reunion solidified it

490
00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:21,080
think that, yeah. I mean, we're
seated for season three. These

491
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,160
people are wild out of their
minds. On another sad note, so

492
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,980
saddened to hear Conor tell his
story about being sexually

493
00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:31,340
assaulted as a boy. You know, he
was very honest in the way he

494
00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:34,760
spoke about it and about his
abuse and how it's contributed

495
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,060
to his need for validation, his
addiction to porn. Yeah, that

496
00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:40,840
was hard to hear and sending him
love,

497
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,480
yeah, and I think he was very
brave to share that, and he

498
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,920
takes a lot of account. He takes
all the accountability for you

499
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:56,920
know, he doesn't blame his
abuse, but he explains that this

500
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,320
is part of what got him to some
of the bad behaviors, and that

501
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,400
he's put in so much work, and
that he shares the story with

502
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,200
hopes that other people can
realize they're not alone, and

503
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,920
that you know, that there's
hope. And it was quite a moment.

504
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,120
It was we find out at the end of
the reunion that Whitney and Jen

505
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,980
will both be competing on the
next season of Dancing with the

506
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:26,000
Stars. Amanda. Is this making us
watch Dancing with the Stars

507
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,360
again?

508
00:31:26,659 --> 00:31:30,499
I mean, I I think so, especially
with the rumor that Sierra will

509
00:31:30,499 --> 00:31:34,819
be on too. I do love watching it
with my daughter, and I think

510
00:31:34,819 --> 00:31:38,719
Whitney and Jen are both like.
Whitney is has been like a like,

511
00:31:38,719 --> 00:31:42,519
professionally trained dancer,
and Jen is a good dancer, so

512
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:46,179
it'll be fun to watch them
compete and see who they get

513
00:31:46,179 --> 00:31:48,399
partnered with and how far each
of them

514
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520
get. Okay, but you know, these
crazy Mormon Swingers, are they

515
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,520
gonna be hooking up with their
partners? We know that these

516
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,460
Dancing with the Stars, they're
always cheating rumors, so

517
00:31:57,460 --> 00:32:00,900
Mormons cheating seems to like
fit in perfectly, and you can't

518
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:04,200
tell me that the network and the
Dancing with the Stars producers

519
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,740
don't recognize this. Come on. I
know it's a family show, but the

520
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:12,540
tabloids and the gossip behind
gets us to watch. Yeah, I say,

521
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,380
someone get Gleb, the serial
cheater, as their dancing

522
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:21,620
partner? And I can already, I
can already write the post about

523
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:25,940
it. Now I could preemptively
write posts about them cheating

524
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,980
and know that they would
probably come true

525
00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:32,900
if Zach flipped out this much
about Jen going to Chippendales.

526
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:36,740
Could you imagine he's gonna
lose his mind? He's gonna lose

527
00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:40,100
his mind like seeing his wife
dancing because, I mean, when

528
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,640
they're dancing, like they're
all up in each other's business,

529
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,240
and they're part of it is
selling the like, the sexiness,

530
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,200
like there's gonna be a lot of
drama with that alone. Oh so

531
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,340
much. Okay, let's talk next gen,
because we have a lot of insider

532
00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:59,260
tea before we get to that. We
spoke last week about how we are

533
00:32:59,260 --> 00:33:04,500
loving Ariana and the end of
last episode, and then beginning

534
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:09,060
of this, she confronts Ava's
comment. Her comment was like, I

535
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:12,540
can't believe Ariana has a is
starting a fashion line. And

536
00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:14,160
then we see the whole thing play
out.

537
00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:18,000
I think the common thread, which
is funny, is that the non Bravo

538
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,980
kids are acting like they're so
much better, not Georgia, but

539
00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:24,740
certainly, well, I mean Georgia,
in a way, like they kind of act

540
00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:27,140
like they're above it, because
they're real New Yorkers, and

541
00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:30,560
certainly Ava and Charlie are
acting that way. God help

542
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,100
Charlie. We'll get to him. Yeah,
I have to give GIA credit. Say

543
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,260
what you want about the Bravo
kids, but they've all been

544
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:39,140
having each other's back.
They're supporting each other.

545
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Some might say GIA speaks on
other people's behalf too much,

546
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,520
but I kind of think that's
endearing. I like that about

547
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,280
her. They must get it from their
mom. You know, they're used to

548
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,720
the drama and the nonsense. They
really are. I don't know. It

549
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,660
seems like they're really we
know that Ariana and Riley are,

550
00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:59,380
like, really tight. We saw the
scene with candy and Todd with

551
00:33:59,380 --> 00:34:01,980
the two of them. But also in
real time, like Ariana was on

552
00:34:01,980 --> 00:34:04,440
Watch What Happens Live This
Week. And she's like, I speak to

553
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Riley every day. We're best
friends, and I love that. I love

554
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,120
that too. Eva's like, we know
you're Rachel Roy's daughter. It

555
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,740
was her playing like a deer in
headlights that her comment is

556
00:34:16,740 --> 00:34:19,980
being interpreted as rude. Is a
joke. Say what you mean. Mean

557
00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:23,060
what you say. You didn't expect
Ariana to confront you. You

558
00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:26,120
expected some talk behind the
back. And I'm happy she's

559
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,160
confronting and yeah,

560
00:34:28,699 --> 00:34:32,539
I mean, I definitely agree with
you that the intention behind

561
00:34:32,539 --> 00:34:36,139
that statement was kind of
shitty. But I also think Ava

562
00:34:36,139 --> 00:34:39,139
barely said anything, and Gio
was the one who kind of jumped

563
00:34:39,139 --> 00:34:42,519
on her throat before she even
really said or clarified or

564
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:46,479
really said anything all that
offensive. And you know, you're

565
00:34:46,479 --> 00:34:51,519
exactly right. Gia knows reality
TV, and I think she also knows

566
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:54,939
that if she's not directly
involved with drama, she needs

567
00:34:54,939 --> 00:34:58,059
to get involved with drama to
get camera time, you know. And

568
00:34:58,059 --> 00:35:02,099
then Ava, you know, either she.
Not a confrontational person, or

569
00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:05,399
she's just getting her reality
TV legs under her.

570
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:07,920
I don't think it's that she's
not a controversial,

571
00:35:08,220 --> 00:35:12,660
controversy. I think that she
runs off and we see her like run

572
00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:15,660
to the bar, because I think that
she didn't expect them to step

573
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:18,180
to her. I think she expected
them to take it. I think there's

574
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:21,980
a difference between not being
confrontational and never having

575
00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:24,260
to be confrontational because
nobody dares

576
00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:28,160
fuck with you. Yeah, that's
actually, I think that's a

577
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,700
probably a good point, or
probably right. I'm also

578
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:35,780
starting to wonder, guys, if we
have another it's not about the

579
00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:40,840
pasta situation with Charlie and
Georgia. So like running through

580
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,000
this entire episode, he's
texting her over a series of

581
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,880
weeks about how she hasn't
returned a borrowed $200 Sonos

582
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,600
or whatever. Speaker. I know, we
know a lot more about Charlie

583
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,380
now, but like does a trust fund
baby who says you have no idea

584
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,340
the money I've spent the amount
of money I've spent in the past

585
00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:06,300
two weeks. Does he really care
about a $200 speaker or is this

586
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:06,900
about something

587
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,680
else? I don't know. If it's
control. I don't know. You know

588
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,100
what I was thinking as I was
watching the episode, we're just

589
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,700
meeting George's boyfriend. I
wonder how long they've been

590
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:21,200
together, and I think that
Charlie may be mad about it. I

591
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,140
think maybe he got a lot of
attention from Georgia when she

592
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:27,140
was single, and now that she has
a boyfriend, she's I'm not even

593
00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:29,600
saying they necessarily hooked
up, which I think they certainly

594
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,740
may have, but I think that he's
jealous that her attention is

595
00:36:33,740 --> 00:36:36,800
elsewhere. That's my opinion.
That's what I was picking up on.

596
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,580
He actively get

597
00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:40,780
this whole boyfriend thing. I
think they are such a they are

598
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:42,400
such an odd couple, by the

599
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,200
way they are, and it seems new.
I don't know, Charlie seems mad,

600
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,780
and I don't think it's about a
speaker. Maybe it's control.

601
00:36:49,780 --> 00:36:52,300
Maybe he's mad that Georgia
isn't kissing his ring,

602
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,800
considering that he got her on
the show, as he says, he adds up

603
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,020
like an animal at that lunch,
yeah, leaving all of them with

604
00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:04,140
bills at clubs, which we heard
all of them say, bringing these

605
00:37:04,140 --> 00:37:06,900
girls to the table, having them
drink up all the liquor, and

606
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:11,220
then being like, I'll Venmo you
when you have people who are not

607
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:14,700
trust fund babies paying for it,
or like you have Riley, who

608
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,140
obviously is a wealthy girl from
her mom, it's just all a bad

609
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:22,580
look for him. But you know, what
little did we know at the

610
00:37:22,580 --> 00:37:26,480
beginning of the season that we
found out? Or I forget, because

611
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,640
I feel like we may have known
this, but when I don't, and I've

612
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,580
told you guys this, when I don't
know a reality star, I can't

613
00:37:31,580 --> 00:37:36,560
remember, but we reposted that
he filed for bankruptcy, Charlie

614
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,580
in 2023 so that would have been
the year before they filmed. So

615
00:37:42,580 --> 00:37:45,040
we have a little info about
this, just because I think some

616
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:52,480
of the details are interesting.
So in his filing, he disclosed

617
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,320
that he was unemployed, living
off money from friends and

618
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,900
family, that he had $1,500 in a
checking account and no property

619
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:08,280
or significant assets that he
was living with his parents. And

620
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,380
can I just say something about
that? I do find it crazy that a

621
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:19,500
quote, unquote, trust fund baby
at 29 years old, Father hasn't

622
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:23,600
bought him like a one bedroom in
Manhattan in his name, right?

623
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,280
Why is he renting, right? Why is
he renting? Or does he live in a

624
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,620
property under his father's
name? It's

625
00:38:30,620 --> 00:38:35,480
under the it's under his parents
name, right? So, yeah. What else

626
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,660
was interesting in here, as his
personal belongings, he listed

627
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,460
$1,000 in closing and $2,000
worth of electronics, no

628
00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:48,580
investment, stocks, life
insurance, retirement. His

629
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:53,200
monthly income was $1,000
including 300 and then his

630
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,200
spending match his ex his
income, including $300 spent on

631
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,780
entertainment clubs and
recreation, and he had $38,000

632
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:06,660
in credit card debt when

633
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:12,000
he filed again. $38,000 is a
huge sum of money to regular

634
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,960
folk I don't understand. Maybe
his dad is just sick of his

635
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,580
shit. Wild. Yeah, we also got
some next gen t we got an

636
00:39:20,580 --> 00:39:23,000
anonymous email. We don't know
who it's from. We don't know its

637
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,300
accuracy, but it said that
Adeline Shannon, the doors

638
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:29,240
daughter, lives in New York
City. She's been approached to

639
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:34,760
join next season, and now that
she's 21 so then we posted that

640
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,960
up, I don't know, week or two
ago, then yesterday, Julius

641
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Michael, who you guys will know
as Lindsay Hubbard Margaret,

642
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,700
Joseph's hairdresser, posted a
picture of Shannon's other

643
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:49,900
daughter, Sophie, and wrote, The
Next Generation is on fire,

644
00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:54,040
which seems to be a hint that
she'll be on is it Sophie? Is it

645
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,500
Adeline? Is it both of them? Are
they just pushing this narrative

646
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,040
they're seeing? Seeing how well
someone like Kim zolciox,

647
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,600
daughter Ariana, is being
received. You get on a show

648
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,140
these days. You get a huge
following all of a sudden, you

649
00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:13,320
can be an influencer. You can
post links, you can get brand

650
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,740
deals. You can start a business
and have great visibilities. Are

651
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,840
the door girls looking to hop on
that train. It seems they're

652
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,720
looking to hop on that train,
whether it's legitimate, on

653
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:28,760
Bravo's. And I could see them.
We know that they love to

654
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,420
feature Shannon. I could see
them wanting her on a la

655
00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:36,260
Meredith, a la Theresa. I
totally could see it. And I

656
00:40:36,260 --> 00:40:38,300
don't know if it's one or the
other or both. Those are the

657
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:38,780
twins,

658
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,100
right? Yeah, I'm trying to
remember it's the oldest

659
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:45,040
daughter's name, though, she's
the one she lives in. Doesn't

660
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,200
she go to school in Texas,
though? Or maybe she's already

661
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,260
graduated, I can't think of her
name. Or maybe we'll see one of

662
00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:52,480
the the door daughters on next
gen. La,

663
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,020
well, they say that, yeah, maybe
one's going to the new

664
00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:59,080
Yeah, one's going to one, one's
going to the other. It's

665
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,300
possible. And we'll get Shannon
on both so there's one part of

666
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,840
the show that's kind of bugging
me that I want your opinion on.

667
00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:12,600
It does feature the housewives a
lot more heavily than I

668
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,400
expected. Do you think that,
like Seth and Meredith and to a

669
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,840
lesser extent, Theresa, that
they're too involved in the show

670
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,720
like I think it's good to see
them here and there, and I

671
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:28,700
absolutely loved seeing candy
with and Todd with Riley and

672
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,620
Ariana. But do we need to see
Seth and Meredith at most of the

673
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:34,580
parties? I

674
00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:38,420
say no. I say no. I think they
were looking to hook an

675
00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:43,300
audience, right? I think that, I
think that the scope is and our

676
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:46,360
kids are a little bit younger,
obviously, well, quite a bit

677
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,840
younger. But maybe the idea was
like, get the moms to watch with

678
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,480
the kids, to hook a next
generation of Bravo lovers.

679
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,700
Which makes sense, right?
Because Mom wants to tune in,

680
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:58,900
and she's like, Hey, dear child,
come sit with me. Yeah, look at

681
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:03,000
these young kids acting a fool.
It's like my housewives, right?

682
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,400
So I think that, I think going
forward, I don't think they

683
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,520
would be as heavily featured. I
think it's appropriate, like

684
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,100
candy scene, which we loved,
where it's like, oh, like

685
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,740
catching up on the last few
weeks and how things are going.

686
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:17,520
I agree with you. We don't need
Georgia hosting Meredith's

687
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,720
caviar party. That's taking it
too far. I think the lunches to

688
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,620
discuss the drama with the moms
is cool, because you know you're

689
00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:27,200
going to the head gossip queens,
the housewives to get the

690
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,020
advice. I like seeing Theresa. I
like seeing Meredith. I love

691
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:31,820
seeing candy in that capacity.

692
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,660
I love candy when she, like
Ariana, comes and joins them,

693
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:37,940
and they're talking about how
they like talk every day, and

694
00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:41,980
they're becoming best friends,
and candy like Josh, was that

695
00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:45,340
both at them both and saying, I
love this for you. Like, I

696
00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:47,020
thought, I don't know. I thought
that was super

697
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:50,140
cool. I did, too. Always want
to. I teared up a little

698
00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:50,860
honestly,

699
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,540
yeah. I it was, yeah. And then
you could see their other, their

700
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:57,460
other, younger kids kind of
running around in the

701
00:42:57,460 --> 00:42:58,000
background,

702
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,800
yeah. But Eileen used to slow
down with her spending. Give me

703
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,100
a freaking break. I was shocked,
because I know that, you know

704
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:07,920
candy is very wealthy and but
candy is very smart with her

705
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,400
money. And you could see that
she was like, we are having a

706
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,460
real conversation off camera
about this, because this is not

707
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:14,940
going to be a

708
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:19,080
thing. I mean, seriously too,
like Riley, that behavior is not

709
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,260
like, it's going to be real hard
when you're trying to buy

710
00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:24,560
yourself more time. Yeah,
you're, you're, you're dead,

711
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:31,100
yeah, so I wanted to go back to
the bed doors because of the

712
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:36,500
news from the last couple weeks.
So TMZ announced that David

713
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,380
bedor has a restraining order
against his on off again, on

714
00:43:41,380 --> 00:43:45,820
again, on again, off, again,
whatever. Leslie wife, Leslie.

715
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:51,820
So in in this restraining order,
he accused Leslie of physical

716
00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:56,680
abuse, called her a pathological
liar in the court documents. So

717
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,180
this was filed June 17, which is
important, you'll know why in a

718
00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:03,840
second in the documents, he says
Leslie has physically abused me

719
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:07,860
on several occasions, and only a
small, small portion of these

720
00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:10,860
incidents have been detailed in
previous domestic violence

721
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:15,120
actions. And then also in the
documents, he, funny enough,

722
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,200
accuses her of marrying him for
money, says that she's even

723
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,540
admitted, which I just that
part. I'm like, okay, come on,

724
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:26,900
he knew that. And in the
documents, he also says that

725
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,880
after a June 11 physical
altercation, Leslie also accused

726
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,200
David of being gay. The court
order says, I think she's

727
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,620
accused him of that before. I
think she has too. I think

728
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:42,640
you're right. Court order says
Leslie has to be 10 yards away

729
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,360
from David, his home, his work,
except for custody exchanges and

730
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:51,340
that they she must vacate his
Newport Beach home. So guys,

731
00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:55,180
just to be clear, I do not think
domestic abuse is funny.

732
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:58,900
Obviously it's not. It's not
funny because it's a girl on a

733
00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:03,720
guy like I'm not. Poking fun at
any of that. That's not funny. I

734
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,640
do find it funny that David
seems to just now be realizing

735
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,680
that she married him for money,

736
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:15,600
but, but here's the crazy part.
Yeah, so this is all swirling.

737
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,020
TMZ is posting it. We're
reposting it. I get it to him,

738
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:22,880
and remember, guys, June 17 is
when he filed a restraining

739
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,200
order. I get the DM, hey. B,
they were spotted together last

740
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,760
Friday, June 27 at Pelican hill
at the pool, which was before

741
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,360
the restraining order, as Amanda
pointed out, I get a DM last

742
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:41,560
night, which was Wednesday, July
2. B, David bador and Leslie are

743
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,940
currently at montage Big Sky,
Montana and I posted the

744
00:45:45,940 --> 00:45:49,840
pictures, which were very funny,
because they weren't talking to

745
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,780
each other. She was on her
phone, and he looked to be half

746
00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:56,500
asleep, and that's exactly what
the photo showed. Talk about

747
00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:01,080
karma. I mean, what an
insufferable pair of people.

748
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:04,080
I think they both deserve to be
miserable with each other,

749
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,360
because they both seem like
miserable people.

750
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,860
Yes, just to wrap up our next
gen, we were told. We got an

751
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:14,280
email. Actually, we weren't
told. So it's an email. Our

752
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,460
emails for next gen have been
pretty legit. People are leaving

753
00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:21,500
next gen, Charlie, it says, on
his own accord, and his friend,

754
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,920
Cheyenne Dylan, some newbies
will be added. The email also

755
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,000
said, funny how all the Bravo
OGS are the safest, and everyone

756
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,560
was mad they were joining. I
want to also add that and get

757
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,380
your opinion on this. I think
Bravo is cutting their losses

758
00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:39,740
with Charlie. I think they hoped
he would bring the hedge fund

759
00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:44,800
spoil brat vibe. And with that
comes the downside. We've all

760
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,700
watched Gossip Girl, by the way,
somebody is like, B if you call

761
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,940
Dan the boyfriend one more time,
he was fucking Gossip Girl, put

762
00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:56,140
some respect on his name, and I
always forget that. All right,

763
00:46:56,140 --> 00:46:56,680
right,

764
00:46:56,860 --> 00:47:00,160
we don't find out until the very
end of the show. I honestly

765
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,180
always thought it was his
sister, to be honest, I did too.

766
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:04,740
Actually, that's funny that you
say that.

767
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,700
But no, we're watching Charlie
verbally attack female cast

768
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:12,060
members. And even so far as to
say I would slap the shit out of

769
00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:15,600
you if you were a man, yeah,
bye. I think Charlie being

770
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,320
spotted with the asshole crypto
bros who kidnapped and tortured

771
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,160
the Italian crypto guy. He was
in the photos when the guy was

772
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,860
being arrested, and he has a
connection to them. I think that

773
00:47:24,860 --> 00:47:28,160
Bravo is like, Okay, this kid is
not just a spoiled brat. He is a

774
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,340
CD character, which is putting
it mildly. I think they hoped he

775
00:47:31,340 --> 00:47:35,360
would be more entertaining, but
they're like, a Adios,

776
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,300
I would agree, because, like, I
actually think he could be a

777
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:47,860
total jerk and be fine on the
show and like, but I what I

778
00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:52,480
don't think is that they want
is, I do believe that email that

779
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,080
we got a few months ago saying
that next gen Bravo believes

780
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,860
that next gen is the next big
franchise, and they don't want

781
00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:04,320
Charlie's, I don't know,

782
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,720
periphery they're dealing well,
getting rid of Jax, and they

783
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,460
don't want another one on their
hands.

784
00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:12,960
Yeah, well, and just like that
is a whole that is a whole other

785
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:18,960
level of dark and scary. And
while he hasn't been charged

786
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,580
with anything, just him being on
the periphery of that situation

787
00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:26,960
could mar the show's name. And
so I I think that. I think

788
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,640
you're right. I think they're
cutting their losses.

789
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:34,280
See you when we see you, see you
never. Yeah, wait, I have a

790
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,840
funny story about see you never.
Oh, when I was in college, my

791
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:41,860
this is like, so random, but I'm
gonna tell it. I had a

792
00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:45,160
graduation party, and a lot of
people came, and so one of my

793
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,760
friends, who I'm not gonna say
their name, let a bunch of,

794
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,980
like, a bunch of the people
slept at my house in my

795
00:48:50,980 --> 00:48:53,560
basement, and her parents were
away. She was like, a bunch of

796
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,560
them can crash in my basement.
So some girls, some boys, not

797
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,500
hook ups, nothing. Just crashed
in her basement. She had to call

798
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:01,620
her parents are on their way
home. She's like, oh shit.

799
00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:03,780
Everyone's gotta go. So she's
getting them all out of there,

800
00:49:03,780 --> 00:49:06,840
and one of the guys that we went
to college with turns to her,

801
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:09,600
and instead of being like, hey,
thank you so much for letting us

802
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,280
crash in your basement, says to
her, bye, see you never and my

803
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,960
friend was like, That ass, if I
ever see him again, I'm like, Oh

804
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,400
my god. So I always say, like,
I'll say to my friend when I see

805
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,720
her, bye. See you. Never you
never. But yeah, that's Charlie

806
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:30,440
vibes all day long. Bye,
Charlie, bye, Charlie. And I

807
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,760
think next week we'll dive more
into Miami, because it's Miami

808
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,760
is great. I mean, I assume you
guys are watching because you're

809
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,980
our people. But what did you
think of the new housewife,

810
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,860
Stephanie. I already like her.

811
00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:48,400
I do too. I mean, she took a
plane to pick up dogs,

812
00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:52,480
which I love. These are the
kinds of things that we need to

813
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,860
be doing in private jets.

814
00:49:54,580 --> 00:49:57,580
There are rumors all over, and I
need to look more into them,

815
00:49:57,580 --> 00:50:00,900
because I have some emails and
some DMs that. In real life,

816
00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:03,540
they're having financial
trouble.

817
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,040
Oh, yeah, I hadn't read that.
Yeah, which would make sense?

818
00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:13,620
Yes, it would absolutely make
sense. We love you guys. Have a

819
00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:16,440
great Fourth we got a book on
Zoom,

820
00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:22,160
yeah, happy, safe. And for our
non American listeners, just

821
00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:25,280
have a great weekend, and we'll
see you guys next week,

822
00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:27,800
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823
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,140
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