Hour 3 – Kirk Herbstreit, Kurt Warner

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Thursday, broadcasting live from the Distillery Complex in Pittsburgh all week long.

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Speaker 3: And I want to.

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Speaker 2: Thank them for their hospitality. This crowd has been unbelievable today. Thank you for bringing the the energy today, the spirit and uh, we'll give you a round of applause here.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not that great, yes, Paulie.

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Speaker 4: And they love Bill Kauer. Oh my god, he was in the middle of same bye I heard.

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Speaker 5: I love you.

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Speaker 2: He's the coachiest coach though. It feels like you'll meet like he He sounds like a coach, looks like a coach, everything like he's ready to go it just and he hasn't coached in a long long time. Plus the guy's jacked Pauli all, you know, all of a sudden, PAULI goes, uh, you know, let me feel your abs. I didn't do the ads.

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Speaker 6: I grabbed a shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Oh it felt like you were going towards the abs there. But no, we want to thank coach Cowherd. And you know what a man of his word, because he said, if you go to the draft, I'm going to come to the draft. I'm going to be on your show. And then I saw where he had signed up to be on Pat McAfee's draft special, and normally Pat will get people and there's an exclusivity that you're going to be on his show and no other show. So Coach Cower said, I'll be on your show to Pat McAfee, but I'm doing the Dan Patrick Show. And I really appreciated that that he said he was going to come here and he did. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. All of our guests this week receive a gift bank provided by Rectech Panini Penske Dude wipes. By the way, we have a meet Friday. They're busy with the Rectech grills up above us. The smashed brought worst and the hot Capacola Permonti style. You know that, Dylan, the Promonte style.

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 8: But I believe that's Gaba gol dan Oh.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not Coppa cola that you know.

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Speaker 8: The Italian say Goba gol oh do they Yeah, not to nitpick, but.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's fine. I want to make sure I get it right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the hot Goba goal.

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Speaker 2: But it's spelled c A p I co O l A.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: Okay, herb crusted.

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Speaker 2: That's herb crusted, not herb u Herb Herb Williams herb crusted. Pork loin, grilled steakhouse burgers and wood fired pesto and hot goba gool? Who has it better than we do?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: No body, no.

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Speaker 7: My mother in law texted me, PAULI, am I lying? What's that? Say? For sure?

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Speaker 2: It so goba goul.

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Speaker 7: She's like, that's the house.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, but you got to be Italian to be able to say, like, I'm not Italian.

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Speaker 9: It's the worst because my wife, who's Italian, it's like, oh, can I have fresh muzzadels? It's Jersey Mike's and Bridgeport, Connecticut mozzarella?

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Speaker 6: Is that Italian?

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Speaker 2: When does it get to is that stolen valor?

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Speaker 6: I think it might be.

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Speaker 2: It's like you go into a subway, you can't say, was that.

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Speaker 8: A like stolen valor? Show us your Italian card.

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Speaker 2: All meat provided by Heartland Steak CEO. Kurt Warner will join us, probably wearing a Super Bowl ring a little bit later on. He is a friend of the show Kirk curb Street and his dog Peter, the ESPN College Football analyst and lead analyst for Thursday Night Football. You can see Kirk tonight on College Game Day at five eastern on the mother ship ABC's coverage at the Draft, beginning at eight eastern. Ladies and Gentlemen, Kirk kurb Street and his dog.

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Speaker 5: Peter, holdlo, We'll come man, wait, wait.

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Speaker 3: Come on here he comes. Oh man, good boy.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get him a chair like we did at the draft to come up here. He's looking for his chair.

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Speaker 7: Come up here.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Pad, he come up here.

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Speaker 6: There you go, Come up here, Come up here, Come.

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Speaker 7: Get those legs.

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Speaker 3: There is alright, pd, there is.

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Speaker 2: What is the breed? I've pure bred Golden retrieve room, okay. And then there's brothers and sisters. Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 10: I have four goldens tempting. His mom and dad had their last litter and they're four weeks old, and I just can't say no. So I'm contemplating possibly.

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Speaker 6: Getting a fifth. So I have to wait and see if my wife will allow it.

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Speaker 2: How does that go over at the house, like you can't make a purchase like that.

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Speaker 6: No, it's because it's a big responsibility. Yeah, you know, but I I just I love.

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Speaker 10: Them, you know, and I've got room for him, you know where I live in Nashville, and and it just their family, you know. So I I love and I've found a breeder that every time you get one, they're they're incredible.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you about your wardrobe at the Michigan game. Uh uh, because you went to see your son. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah yeah, okay. But but I was told by Ohio State fans of course, because I'm in Ohio. They're like, hey, Herbie's wearing Michigan colors. And I go his son goes to Michigan, and I'm like, you, poor guy, you can't even you can't just have like just a normal day where you're watching your son in the spring game.

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Speaker 10: It's just and my son played in Minnesota. I might be in Minnesota. He plays at Michigan. They offered him a full ride to go up there and play. And my wife and I support our sons. My son plays at Michigan. I didn't have a block m on. I had a navy coat, and then I.

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Speaker 3: Think I had this. You did have that hatos hat on?

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Speaker 10: Yes, it's like incognito as I could pass make it. So it is what you know, how it is. I mean, anything you do, you're you're you're pretty much screwed. He's just checking you out back here.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's fun. You know how that goes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But I I you know, I was just over at P and C.

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Speaker 10: You know, baseball guy grew up in the seventies and Southwest Ohio with the big Red machine. So I mean, I'm as big a baseball fan as I am football, and P and C. I've always looked at that is maybe the best, the crown jewel of all the new stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, it's congrats to you guys.

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Speaker 10: I mean I think it's beautiful and it's great to see because when I grew up the Pirates, you know, we are family. It was it was a big deal, the Pirates baseball. And it's great to see Schemes and Reynolds and you know this rookie Griffin. It's it's neat to see they have a nucleus and they're they're winning games and so they invited us. Over All I can think about is they're going to ask me to collaborate on this. As I'm taking reds, fans are going to be on it, and it's like, what can you do is we were just honored to be over there and take some photos.

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Speaker 2: Well, you try to tell people what a real rivalry used to be, and that was the big Red Machine in the Pirates. Man, it was good.

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Speaker 3: And then you throw in the Dodgers back then.

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, and it was so good.

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Speaker 2: It felt like every year was coming down to the Pirates against the Big Machine.

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Speaker 10: Willie Stargel and Phil Garner and Tim Foley and Bill Madlock and Easler, Mike Easler, Omar Marino, Dave Parker behind the plate. I mean that group seems like in those days they were together for seven, eight nine years.

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Speaker 2: Well you could stay together. But you know, Rennie Stennant, yeah, I think they Gene Alley, I go back to Gene Alley short stuff. Yeah, yeah, I you know, growing up in the late sixties, early seventies, Yeah, and to be able to watch those rivalries. And we were just talking about Roberto Clemente. Somebody brought me a bottle of wine the Clemente Museum and I remember, you know, when you watch certain athletes and you go, that's different, different. And I remember Clemente, he his batting stands, the way he ran, but his arm, his arm was incredible. Yeah, it might have been the greatest arm I ever saw. Now Parker was Parker, Yeah, yeah, But Parker was.

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Speaker 6: Such a big, imposing act.

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Speaker 3: I think he was a running back in Princeton High School.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I can't imagine he would have been you imagine he's like six four, six five.

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Speaker 7: He would have been like Derrick Henry y yeah, or if not bigger.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, Dave Parker was a monster and of course ended up coming over to say he ended up playing for a bunch of teams. But Glory Gory years of course was the Cobra as a pirate.

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Speaker 2: So when you start assessing talent and you're trying to figure out you're projecting here, and I don't know what's tougher to go from high school projecting success in college or college projecting in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Which one would you say?

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Speaker 10: I think if you're talking quarterback play, I think it's equally as challenging because I think the thing that we all look on quarterbacks is we get caught up and enamored with a guy's size, his arm strength, the numbers maybe that he put up in college or even in high school. And I think what it's so hard to define, and it's why we always see teams miss is the ability to process, the ability to see a defense pre snap, and then in the NFL you're going to get a different look more often than not post snap. And it's hard because of the way the college game is played so much, no huddle, looking over the sideline.

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Speaker 6: You know you're looking at four signs on the sideline.

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Speaker 10: It's all tempo, and then you're going to go listen to a John Gruden type of play call where you're just trying to manage the huddle and get the call out, let alone deal with them. And so there's really no testing that can evaluate guys unless they come out of a system in college that you feel like, Okay, we've seen them, like Sark with with what they do with Arch, that's a little bit different because Sark was an nfloc He's known for his ability to be more sophisticated, more NFL like, So with Arch, I think your next year when they're evaluating him, I think it's going to be a little bit easier to evaluate based on what you see. But I think the most underrated thing and most difficult thing to predict is the ability to process and beat a defense with your mind and not just look at my primary he's covered and take off and run. Because we live in this era of dual threat quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: High school.

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Speaker 10: The best athlete in high school used to be a running back, a receiver, a linebacker, a safety.

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Speaker 6: Now he's a quarterback.

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Speaker 10: And they go up to college and they dominate, and then they go up into the NFL. Caleb Williams is a great example what Ben Johnson's trying to do with.

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Speaker 6: Him in Chicago his whole life. Imagine being the best athlete on.

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Speaker 10: The field middle school, high school, college, Oklahoma and the USC. So when things get uncomfortable, his natural instinct is to go and because he's done it so well, and Ben Johnson this past year works so hard and getting him to be like, trust it go from A.

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Speaker 6: To B to see, Ben, let's not take away your.

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Speaker 10: Ability to create. We don't want to eliminate it. But let's not just go to that as the answer.

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Speaker 6: And so I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I think each guy's different, each guy and how you evaluate him. I think that's what makes Fernando so interesting with Tom Brady being in Vegas, is he's kind of a tom Brady quarterback. Yeah, he can move around a little bit we saw in the National title. But he's a guy that does have the ability to look at a defense, evaluate it, get a pre snap feel, have some answers, they move to a different coverage.

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Speaker 6: I think now they got to get pieces around him.

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Speaker 10: But I think I'm very confident in his ability to go up to that next level, maybe not year one, but eventually just because of his wiring and his prep and how he'll be.

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Speaker 6: Able to dissect the defense.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at quarterbacks, and I've said this before, Michael Vickers said it before, that you don't put in the time because you're such a great athlete, like Kyler Murray in high school. Like that's freakish, you know. Josh Allen, I kept saying, you got to learn how to play the position because you were just not there. I'm going to take off and run, and I go back to Steve Young and Steve said it was so easy for him to look, look, go and he said I had to go to the third and fourth and then I became the quarterback that I was. But I don't know what that's like because you played the position and that clock in your head of how long is long enough and how long is too long when you're ready to make a decision.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: See, I have a great appreciation for it because I never could do it. I grew up at Centerville High School that you're familiar with, and my high school coach.

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Speaker 6: In these days, you know, they ran split veer.

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Speaker 10: My high school coach went to Fisher to Bury at Air Force Academy and he brought back the old school Wishbone. So I ran Wishbone high school offense, eating a triple option. I was like a high four five four six guy and big, you know. I was six three, two hundred and eighteen pounds, but could run.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I could never drop.

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Speaker 10: I go to Ohio State, I had to drop seven steps and run more of a West Coast offense, and I never I never could get comfortable with I could do the drops, but I was that look at the primary.

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Speaker 8: It's uncomfortable, get out guy, right.

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Speaker 10: So I have such appreciation when I see a guy like a Tom Brady or a Drew Berg more of the old school guy that has that ability to just comfortably ignore his blind side. You know, my first time I went in against Ohio State against USC Junior Saal, they still had their ones in Junior Sale was on my blind side and we were running a play action to my right in the LA Coliseum. I've got a backup left tackle in the game, and Junior sayou at this point, I think he had three sacks in the game, and all I could think about it was on color, so it was it was down blue. So I said, down blue, and I started to take the snap, and out of my corner of my eye, I could.

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Speaker 6: See my left tackle still in his stance, and.

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Speaker 7: I had to.

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Speaker 10: And I had I had to turn my back and carry out a fake knowing that my left tackle, who had no chance to block him to begin with, was still in his stance.

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Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, is he gonna spear me in the back?

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Speaker 2: How bad?

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Speaker 10: And by the time I got to the top of the of the faith, I was ear holding down and in USC number fifty five, he used to just kind of do like, I am that guy kind of thing, and I'm looking up at that. But I never had the ability to.

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Speaker 6: To look at two and three and four.

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Speaker 10: That's why I can really relate to it so well. And and and to hear Steve Young say, because I think Steve Young, if you put him in this era, oh, I mean, honestly, he just missed his era. Yeah, he would have been so dominant because he had the ability to throw, the ability to create. But it's cool to hear him say he even had to learn one to two to three to four because he was so dynamic as a playmaker.

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Speaker 2: Where are we headed with this playoff situation where it feels like sixteen but there's a push for twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I mean that happened quickly.

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Speaker 7: Herb, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 10: I think the Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti was really the first one to get out there and talk about it last year.

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Speaker 6: And then everybody was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, twenty four.

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Speaker 10: That's ridiculous. You'll cheapen the regular season. That's one of the great things about the college game is you still feel like these games in September really matter.

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Speaker 6: And if you go to twenty four, are able to hold onto that.

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Speaker 10: There's that argument, then there's an argument that let's do away with the conference championships. Let's make that a you know, four against five and three against six and almost like a play in to advance to the playoffs. So I don't I really don't. He just staring that camera down. I don't know how I feel. I don't know what the antswer is. It seems like the twenty four is gaining momentum.

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Speaker 2: But why wouldn't the SEC want twenty four?

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Speaker 6: Have no idea because.

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Speaker 2: I'd heard Greg sank, Yeah he doesn't want it. Yeah, but that's more teams, yeah, more revenue?

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Speaker 6: Is it about the aqs? Like how many teams are you just automatically?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many they're going to a lot, but let's just.

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Speaker 6: Put the best teams in, no matter what the deal is.

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Speaker 10: I don't like when we get to the end and we got to be nice and like, let's make sure that a team gets in, because this past year we had a couple of teams in and I don't mind it, like Ben Roethlisberger Miami.

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Speaker 6: Ohio group of five teams.

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Speaker 10: Put those kind of teams in Boise State, Like those kind of teams when they were really good, no.

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Speaker 6: Problem put them in.

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Speaker 10: But let's not just do it to do it, you know, And I feel like we're at an era right now where that's kind of what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: Who you with tonight on ABC?

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Speaker 10: So, like you said, Game Day from five to seven on ESPN and then so there the mel Kiper Game ESPN Draft is on ESPN breaking down teams needs.

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Speaker 6: And this is what they're gonna do me. Nick Saban, Desmond.

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Speaker 10: Howard, and Rees Davis will be on ABC and it'll be more of a Game Day version of Fernando Mendoza. We're gonna tell you about him, We're gonna tell you about his mom, We're gonna tell you about you know what, what his career has been. Like, we're gonna talk about r Vel Reese as a person as you tell.

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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, yeah, it's cool with it.

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Speaker 10: Here's this is the greatest thing about Nick Saban. And I've known him since he was the head coach at Michigan State, so I've known him for almost twenty twenty five years. He when he first came on to Game Day. I mean, I've already told you this, but it just stands out to me. He's Nick Saban, right. And we'll get done with a segment and it'll turn to me, and because I'm sitting right next to him, he'll look over me He's like, was that was that okay?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, yeah, man, yeah that was. But he wants to be coached like he's a player. Like he's like, don't just tell me what I want to hear. I want I want to get better at this.

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Speaker 10: Like he really, I think has an appreciation for not just being I'm Nick Saban and that's enough, but really understanding studio television and how can I be better?

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Speaker 6: So I love that.

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Speaker 10: About him because he doesn't have to do that, right, I mean, he's Nick saving he can just be Nick Saban, but he wants to really try to study the craft and get good at it.

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Speaker 2: Kirk Kurbstreet and Peter is not going to be on the show tonight, right, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think so, Okay.

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Speaker 6: I think he's going to hang on the bus tonight.

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Speaker 2: You can watch Kirk tonight College Game Day at five eastern on the Mothership, ABC's coverage NFL Draft beginning at eight eastern. Herbie, thank you for making time again. Yeah, of course, Kirkurbstreet. Everybody, We'll be back after this.

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Speaker 2: We'll try to sneak in a few more phone calls here. It's bringing Kurt Warner, Hall of famer, NFL Network analyst. You can see him on NFL Networks coverage of the Draft tonight at eight Eastern. We welcome in the two time NFL MVP er.

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Speaker 7: Thank you because I'm going off. How's that ready?

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Speaker 3: What kind of in playing shape there?

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Speaker 7: I mean pretty good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Feel good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like if the helmet's on, we don't see the gray hair, but I might just see you out there playing. You look like you can still like you and Brady if you had like a combine right now, who wins? Oh?

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Speaker 7: I mean Brady? Maybe maybe me and Philip Rivers?

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Speaker 11: Maybe I could. I could take Philip. I'm not sure I'm taking Brady man. I still looks like he could.

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Speaker 2: Go okay, But but I feel good.

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Speaker 7: I feel good.

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Speaker 2: But throwing ones like could you have done what Philip Rivers did this past year?

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Speaker 7: I think all of us old guys when we watched him, said I could do that.

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Speaker 11: It made me go back in my backyard and start throwing it around a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Like if somebody calls, I think I could do this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But if Brenda's looking outside and sees you throwing the football, what she say.

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Speaker 11: She's like, yeah, I mean, just the fact that she doesn't want me to get hit anymore.

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Speaker 7: That's what she thinks about. Like she could see me.

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Speaker 11: Throw and be like, yeah, it looks great, but they're still gonna hit you. And the guys are big and fast, so that's that's what she worries about.

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Speaker 7: But I think she looks and says, this guy's make a lot of money right now.

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Speaker 11: Maybe go back for eight games, ten games, and let's see what we can get out of this, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: When you see yourself hit and as opposed to feeling getting hit, Yeah, like how different because we see it and they look like car accidents there. But I don't know how much it hurts in the moment when you get hit it because there's adrenaline going.

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Speaker 7: Not very much at all.

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Speaker 11: Like we can watch it on you know, on film and you're like, man, it does look bad, but you remember and you're like, I didn't feel anything.

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Speaker 7: The amazing thing now is obviously you played the game.

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Speaker 11: When I stand on the sidelines now and watch it like you're talking about, i'd sit back and go I can't believe I ever played that game, Like it is like.

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Speaker 7: Car crashes and the violence.

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Speaker 2: But when you'd rather not know you're gonna get hit it or you see it, you don't even you really don't even think about it as a quarterback because you're so focused.

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Speaker 11: On everything else. I never once thought, oh, I'm gonna get hit. It was just kind of like, hey, throw the football to where you're supposed to throw it, then you take the hit. Like you said, the adrenaline, you're more worried about, did I complete the ball? What happened on the other end than the fact that you got hit. So it is an amazing thing. It's as violent and as big, as strong as guys are. Most of the hits you never even field, you never even thought about.

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Speaker 2: But you brought up something to me a couple of years ago. You said you welcome to blitz. Yeah, because you thought that was to your advantage. That's not normal. I think for quarterbacks. Is it that, Hey, I hope you blitz because now I know I got a weak spot over here.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it is.

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Speaker 11: I don't think you know, we all have different skills, right, Obviously, there's lots of guys that have physical skills that the ability to run around. My greatest gift was my ability to process information. And so if I could see you coming, I knew that I could always beat you with my mind and with my right arm, And so it made the game easier for me. Like, if you're gonna blitz from over here, you don't have any guys there to cover. As long as I've got a guy who can throw it to the game became easier for me.

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Speaker 12: And you know they're blitzing well, I mean, before they blitzed it doesn't have to even be before they blitz. All I have to see is that guy take two steps, and once he's gonna take two steps because he's still a long ways from me, boom, balls out of my hands. I know exactly what my answer is if that guy comes, and to me, it just it made the game easier. It made it more fun.

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Speaker 11: It was a fun challenge to be able to beat that pressure with a throw, and it didn't didn't have to be a thirty yard throw down the field, which I know a lot of people love that, let's block everybody up, let's throw it down the field. To me, it was more fun that cat and mouse going, oh, you're gonna blitz. You don't think I know, you don't think I have an answer? You come boom, and then they're just frustrated because all you had to do was throw the ball five yards and you pick up fifteen and they're just looking at you like, okay, now now what do I do?

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Speaker 7: You know, guys in the middle.

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Speaker 11: I used to love to play you know, that game with different guys. I remember, you know a time with Charles Woodson, and I always thought, I always thought you got to you got to play use their strengths against them. And so one of the great things he was great at was, you know, the slot blitz. And you know, one game we're playing against the Packers in the playoffs, and I knew that he was coming, and so he takes two steps, and he also.

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Speaker 7: Knew that I knew he was coming.

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Speaker 11: So he took two steps and he stopped because he's like, you're gonna try to throw it behind me, and I'm gonna stop you from doing that.

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Speaker 7: But he blitzed.

00:24:12
Speaker 11: I was gonna throw it behind him, he stopped. I was able to stop and.

00:24:16
Speaker 7: Turn and hit the guy on the backside for a big play. And that, to me is the fun part of the cat and mouse.

00:24:22
Speaker 11: A guy like Charles with great instincts, you have to match those instincts and use it against him, and that to me was the most fun part of the game.

00:24:29
Speaker 2: But I look at Mendoza and you talk to Mendoza and he seems like a football nerd that he he's like forty years of age.

00:24:38
Speaker 7: But when you.

00:24:39
Speaker 2: Talk about processing, help us understand I get to the line of scrimmage. What am I processing here in real time? Yeah?

00:24:48
Speaker 11: And with Fernando, great thing I actually met Fernando a number of years ago. He came out to my house to train right when he was taken over as the starter at CAL and so same exuberance for the game, saying passion for the game. No, my son was not a cou No, just a trainer. Brought him over to our house and so so, yeah, just training with him. But all the stuff that you see when he's when a camera's on him is the same person I saw years ago that he just wanted to be great at the game. So it's been fun to watch that ascension. And when you talk about the processing point.

00:25:22
Speaker 2: But what are teaching him, I mean we're working on everything.

00:25:26
Speaker 11: We're on the field and we're talking about technique and we're working on different throws. Then we would go you know into you know, on the board, and I would talk him through how I prepared and what I saw and when a coach gave me a play, these were the checklist that I would go through to make sure that I had the answers. So the stuff that we're talking about the processing part of it, I had all the answers to the test and all I needed to know was what the defense.

00:25:49
Speaker 7: Was going to do. And then boom, I could respond to it.

00:25:51
Speaker 11: So we talked about all of that stuff, and so it's been fun to watch that process and stay connected with him over the years.

00:25:58
Speaker 7: And you know, again back to your your.

00:26:00
Speaker 11: Question about processing, there are so many different things that you're seeing. Every play is different, you know, depending on what the concept is. There's different things that I'm looking at. Is there a safety here? Is the corner in an off position? Are they going to bring pressure? Who can possibly bring pressure? There's times I'm looking at linebackers. You know, if the linebackers are a little bit out of position, it makes you go, okay, why is he bossed over there? The safety must be dropping down here, So I know I've got this available to me.

00:26:26
Speaker 7: So there's so many.

00:26:27
Speaker 11: Different aspects to it that it's not just Hey, I come up to the line on every play and I'm looking at this and then I'm looking at everything is different. You give me the play and I can tell you exactly what I'm looking for when I go up there, what the keys are to throw it to this side or that side, How I'm going to respond versus different coverages that I may see. That's all part of the processing and again, that's the fun part of the game. To me, that's you know, I know for some guys it's probably you know, running around and making a forty yard run or throwing the ball forty To me, it's what are you going to do? Can I respond accordingly in two seconds and get the ball to you know, the guy on my team that's gonna gonna give us the best chance to win.

00:27:05
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner the Hall of Famer. You can see tonight NFL Network coverage of the NFL Draft. They start at eight eastern trying to assess as a quarterback. Are you better at assessing defensive backs or wide receivers?

00:27:22
Speaker 7: I would say probably wide receivers.

00:27:25
Speaker 11: You know, being around so many great ones over the years, I think I have a better sense of what I'm looking for, you know, what what makes them great or the little things and the nuance to that position that that I think can make you successful at the other level.

00:27:40
Speaker 7: Not as good at some of the positions that that I wasn't, you know, quite as.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: Close to Yeah, because I always wondered about that, like why aren't catchers better hitters because they're they're catching every pitch, they're seeing every batter there, and I wondered that with a quarterback of you know, you see these defensive backs, you know what they're going to do. Strength and weakness. Is what's like that one wide receiver? Is there one wide receiver? If I say, you can have any wide receiver in the history of the NFL.

00:28:08
Speaker 7: Oh in the history of the NFL. Oh, Yeah, I mean I'm taking Jerry Rice, Okay.

00:28:13
Speaker 11: And I played with a lot of great ones, obviously a lot of Hall of famers, but Jerry was just so good at so many different things. How definitive he was running routes. There was never a misstep. Obviously you know the amount of success that he had. But you know, the interesting thing when you talk about dbs, I had never worried about the most physically talented dB.

00:28:34
Speaker 7: The guys I worried about were the guy's instincts.

00:28:36
Speaker 11: And so even when I'm watching tape and breaking down for the draft, I'm looking at guys and going, Okay, can they play.

00:28:41
Speaker 7: With their eyes? How quickly do they react to something?

00:28:44
Speaker 11: Can they can they read, you know, route recognition and understand where to go with it? Those guys, to me, were the hardest guys to play against. The guys that were big, strong and fast. It was like, all right, we can counter that. What was hard to counter was guys that could see and react to things that that would different than other guys. So Troy, Paulamalu, and Ed Reid exactly those guys, Charles Woodson.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: But they are all the other guys they're not they're their own defensive coordinator.

00:29:09
Speaker 11: Well that's because they're seeing things and doing things that nobody else does. So you think they can't see that, they don't know what's going on, and then all of a sudden, you know, I remember playing against Troy in the Super Bowl, and you know, he'd be down on one side of the field, you know, like he was in a drop position, maybe even a blitz position, and right on the snap he goes running back to a cover two position and you're like, that's not even possible. Now, if you know that and understand that, you can take advantage of it. But there were so many times that you thought one thing and then he just goes running off and like you said, doing something completely different and is actually able to accomplish it. You know, most guys that did that would be like, okay, that guy tries to do that, We're gonna kill him.

00:29:51
Speaker 7: A guy like.

00:29:52
Speaker 11: Troy or Ed they do that, and they find a way to get into that position because they know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it.

00:30:02
Speaker 2: Juxtapose losing a super Bowl to winning a super Bowl. How high is the high? How low is the low?

00:30:10
Speaker 11: I mean, winning is always going to be better than you know, I mean, the high of winning is always going to be better than the low of losing. But I'll say this, Unfortunately you always bring this up, I think. But I lost two super Bowls, so yeah, a lot to talk about. But I would say that the difference of the two super Bowls that I lost was also the expectation going in the loss to the Patriots when we were fourteen point favorites.

00:30:35
Speaker 7: And you know, really we were the better.

00:30:37
Speaker 11: Football team week in and week out roster wise, and we didn't play our best football. And so going through that game and knowing you didn't play your best in the biggest moment hangs with you a lot longer than when I lost with the Cardinals, and we weren't supposed to win. We weren't even supposed to be there, you know, And here we are with two and a half minutes to go and we're leading in the super Bowl. You know, it hurts to lose that one, but because of how far we had traveled and what we had accomplished, it didn't hurt as much because there was a lot of pride in what we had accomplished. The one of the Patriots is probably the game that I still think about of all the games that I played more than any others. You know, if I could have just done this different or that different, you know how you could be a two time super Bowl champion.

00:31:22
Speaker 7: So that low was pretty low compared to the other one.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: Paul, bring out Tom Brady here?

00:31:31
Speaker 11: All kinds of things to talk about, don't we Maybe we just throw it here. Maybe there's some competition.

00:31:37
Speaker 2: What happens, what happens when you see Brady? And there's any you guys don't open up a scrap book.

00:31:44
Speaker 7: Do you? We know? We don't.

00:31:46
Speaker 11: I don't even go back to that game at all. We don't talk about it.

00:31:49
Speaker 2: If you played them ten times, how many times do you win?

00:31:54
Speaker 7: I think we win at least eight of those?

00:31:55
Speaker 2: Okay?

00:31:56
Speaker 11: If yeah, if not, yeah, I mean we were the better team, but we didn't play our best and it's the hard thing about the Super Bowl is that when you show up, you're there for you know, sometimes one week, sometimes two weeks, and every time you turn on the TV, they're telling you how you're going to play and if you're going to win. And so for two weeks we heard how we were going to kill the Patriots, and it really felt like as we got into that game, we had a lot of guys that you kind of believed, Hey, we just need to show up and we're going to win. And so, yeah, Tom and I don't we don't talk about that much. You know, we were we were at the front end of starting that Patriots dynasty and stopping our own. So it was a bit of a bummer, but uh, you know, but fortunate that I was able to get back and play three of those things.

00:32:39
Speaker 7: But you're a Hall of Famer, though, It's yeah, I mean, I am may great, but I'd rather won three super Bowls. I'd rather be a three time super Bowl champion. But you're right, it's it's it's great. It's it.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: Okay, I can give you three super Bowls, but you're not a Hall of Famer. I'll take the three super Bowl Okay, yeah, yeah, I think.

00:33:00
Speaker 7: But it'd also be pretty hard to keep hard to keep me out if I won three super Bowls. But but yes, I'd take the three super Bowls.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: I thought Ben was going to be the MVP in the game in the Super Bowl against you guys. Yeah, like that throw that he had to San Antonio Holmes.

00:33:15
Speaker 11: I mean the throw, the catch, I mean the drill, I mean the fact that he didn't get both feet down, all the different things.

00:33:23
Speaker 2: Oh, you're in Pittsburgh.

00:33:27
Speaker 3: You're in Pittsburgh.

00:33:28
Speaker 11: I'm still looking for visual evidence. Where's the evidence. I know I'm in Pittsburgh.

00:33:33
Speaker 7: I love you guys.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: I think maybe Homes didn't get both feet down.

00:33:37
Speaker 7: I actually don't. I mean, and I mean, first of all, it was so close.

00:33:41
Speaker 11: Secondly, in those moments, what you love is that, you know, I thought we played a great game.

00:33:48
Speaker 7: We came back and got the lead.

00:33:49
Speaker 11: But it was a couple of great players making a great play in.

00:33:54
Speaker 7: The moment to win the Super Bowl.

00:33:55
Speaker 11: Like that's what it should be if if we're going to lose, that's the way you want to I mean, it was. I couldn't even believe Ben through the ball because we have three defenders there and then to put it in that position in Santonio be able to make I mean, it was just you just have to tip your hat to great players. And so I was fortunate to play in three great Super Bowls, right, one that came down to a yard one that was the first Super Bowl that was won on the last play of the game against the Patriots, and then that one against Pittsburgh.

00:34:22
Speaker 7: And that's what you want.

00:34:24
Speaker 11: Two best teams playing a great football game. Comes down to great players making great plays, and you just have to tip your hat to them.

00:34:31
Speaker 7: I mean, it was just an unbelievable play.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: What's the call to Larry Fitzgerald for the touchdown that gave you the lead? Do you remember the call?

00:34:39
Speaker 11: Yeah, So we were basically in our two minute drial, so we had concepts on both sides. So to his side, it was a concept that we called under so his little five yard en route A Kwon was over the top of him. Who would run a twelve yard in or he had the ability if they played man coverage to break out and so what made that play so great and Kwan pushed up it was man coverage he broke out. Troy Palamlu was the safety there he jumped and kwan you know, on the out portion of it. So you know, Larry beat Ike Taylor on the little under and so as soon as I hit him, there's out nobody in the middle of the field, and so, I mean, it was it was cool. I remember just running over to the sideline and you know, of course we had some people that hadn't played in the Super Bowl and lost on the last play of the game.

00:35:27
Speaker 7: But everybody's like, we just run a super Bowl and I'm like, no, there's two minutes ago.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: Just just to hang.

00:35:34
Speaker 1: On, just you know.

00:35:35
Speaker 11: But but I mean, it was so cool that excitement because nobody did expect us to be there. Nobody expected to ever say that Cardinals are going to win the Super Bowl, and so we had that moment. Unfortunately it was it was short lived, but uh but yeah, I was.

00:35:48
Speaker 7: Uh you still remember that pretty vividly.

00:35:50
Speaker 2: Are you glad you came by today?

00:35:53
Speaker 7: I am.

00:35:53
Speaker 11: You know, there's just certain things that there's always going to be a constant reminder.

00:35:58
Speaker 7: You come to Pittsburgh, what are we going to talk about? Right?

00:36:01
Speaker 11: You cover the Super Bowl? You know you're gonna hear about a little bit. But again, I have those experience to pull from, so I always loved being on with you.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: Played in three Super Bowl That's right, They're a Hall of fame.

00:36:13
Speaker 3: There you go, your two time MVP.

00:36:15
Speaker 7: Right. We could talk about the one I won a little bit more, though, I'm.

00:36:19
Speaker 3: Just saying we are out of time.

00:36:21
Speaker 2: Out of time, yeah TV, nobody wants to hear about a victory. Come on, we want pain, we want tears. Here Kurt Tonight. NFL Network coverage twenty twenty six Draft. They started eight Eastern Kurt Warner, everybody, We'll come back after this.

00:36:40
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. The NFL Draft is where it all starts. This is crazy.

00:36:56
Speaker 7: I can't believe it.

00:36:57
Speaker 1: From the picks to the breakdowns, weird covering because in the NFL.

00:37:02
Speaker 7: I'll put myself in a position and be.

00:37:03
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00:37:20
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Meet Thursday, kind of like Meet Wednesday, but then there's meat Friday tomorrow by thanks to a Kurt Warner. Why do I do that? Why do I always touch on the negative? There is it better radio TV to see a grown man get upset or cry for you? It feels that way, it does. I apologize you're an instigator, I know, but I didn't mean to. But I think you learn more about somebody in a loss than you do a win.

00:37:49
Speaker 8: They say you learn more from failure.

00:37:52
Speaker 2: I've learned an awful lot about you guys.

00:37:55
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, Well, the win for the Rams is awesome, is great. It established Kurt, But he says he thinks about that loss to the Patriots all the time.

00:38:02
Speaker 6: We want to hear about it.

00:38:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we think about our losses in the sports Emmy all the time. We never think about the winds.

00:38:08
Speaker 8: Which loss is the worst.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: It always feels like the last one is the worst one. But you know what, I did have somebody who votes, and they said you got to stop whining his words, and I said, okay, I'll stop whining. Does that mean we win a sports m He goes no, but I think it could help you stop whining. I don't know if we're capable of doing that. We're very petty and it hurts. Who's on Friday show there, Todd.

00:38:36
Speaker 11: We got Lewis Riddick coming by, and Tom Pellisero and maybe other surprises.

00:38:40
Speaker 2: Do you have food in your mouth?

00:38:42
Speaker 7: I'm just finishing a last little bit of something. Fill ups there? The sandwich from the rec tax.

00:38:46
Speaker 2: I know, but you knew you were coming down coming back on so you don't have to take a b As I.

00:38:50
Speaker 6: Was going down the steps, I thought I washed it down with the water.

00:38:54
Speaker 8: Okay, yes, do I almost choked on that sandwich running down the stairs. I was trying to I was like, I have.

00:38:59
Speaker 6: Ten I can to finish this thing.

00:39:01
Speaker 2: Okay, my thanks to Rectech. They did a wonderful job. Beautiful spread there, gave way a Rectech grill. So yeah, all good stuff today. Beautiful day here weather wise, if people are going to the draft, don't have.

00:39:17
Speaker 3: To worry about weather, yes, Paul.

00:39:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have seventy three in Pittsburgh today, low high fifties and totally clear tonight, same for tomorrow.

00:39:24
Speaker 2: Okay, bank to you.

00:39:25
Speaker 3: That's good, Thank you, super Doppler radar.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: Tune into the NBA playoffs Celtic Sixers, Lakers and the Rockets. By the way, we came up with something when Bill Cower joined us. He said BS twice, but he actually said bullshit, and we were wondering, can we make that just not a curse word? Can we just like, can you just say it, Paul, like on radio?

00:39:50
Speaker 4: You're not supposed to, But when coach Cower said it, it felt like natural coach football talk.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was okay with it.

00:39:55
Speaker 4: No, no mean spirit in this.

00:39:57
Speaker 2: But then what happens if your kid says something to you about taking out the garbage and they say, that's BS.

00:40:03
Speaker 7: So you could even say it.

00:40:05
Speaker 2: I know, Well, I'm not so posted. I'm a professional. I'm a journalist, yes, Marvin, Well.

00:40:09
Speaker 9: If it is BS, I want my son to be honest, So just call it like you see.

00:40:14
Speaker 2: Wait, if Lorenzo says and uses those words around you for purposes, now.

00:40:19
Speaker 9: What goes on in real life at the Prince House is the whole different end?

00:40:22
Speaker 2: Okay? All right?

00:40:23
Speaker 3: H yes, yes?

00:40:24
Speaker 8: Is there a difference if it's just BS or if he says this is F and BS.

00:40:28
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, you can't do and oh, child services just checking, but it does feel like you could say that and it's not terrible.

00:40:36
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he's the coachiest coach ever, so whatever he says.

00:40:40
Speaker 8: Oh, you could say bullocks too, that's the British version.

00:40:45
Speaker 2: All right.

00:40:46
Speaker 3: Final results of the poll question, Well.

00:40:48
Speaker 8: We added one last hour, Dan, Who's better looking?

00:40:51
Speaker 2: Kirk?

00:40:51
Speaker 3: Kirbstreeters Dog Peter?

00:40:53
Speaker 8: Sorry, Kirk, because this is overwhelmed.

00:40:55
Speaker 3: Man Pedia is gorgeous?

00:40:56
Speaker 8: Eighty six percent agree.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: Pedia is well maintained. He gorgeous? Still, yes, Paul, I'm not gonna stand for that.

00:41:04
Speaker 4: Kirk's a legend in their good looking god community.

00:41:06
Speaker 6: Them slapping the face.

00:41:07
Speaker 8: How many times did you vote for Kurt?

00:41:11
Speaker 2: He's still voting yes. Uh, let's go around the room, Todd. Would you learn today?

00:41:15
Speaker 11: Bill Cawer thought he was taking his wife for a nice gentleman a doctor vote for his twenty figh school reunion, not realizing they were about to embark on a three hour cruise.

00:41:21
Speaker 3: What did I learn today?

00:41:23
Speaker 4: Kurt Wanner doesn't believe Centennial Holmes got two feet down now Cardinals super.

00:41:26
Speaker 7: Bowl lost to the Steelers.

00:41:27
Speaker 6: Uh?

00:41:28
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