Sam McKinney & Alli Jo Go the Distance | Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: Hey, every well, welcome back to Thatcher Happy Hour. I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with Sam Dan Joe. Welcome to the podcast as a couple for the first time on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Serena's kind of been jumping in taking taking over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my coffee kicked in before Joe's did coffee.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just I think I'm just stupid. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: So, so, last time Sam, we had you on the podcast was Paradise. Were yep, right before we were rooting for you.

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Speaker 1: We were sad to see you go.

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Speaker 3: We were sad to see you go. We really were, And I would say, you know, would love to see you on next season, But I actually hope you're not on next season because you're here with your girlfriend Ali Joe, and we're so excited to chat with you. Guys both kind of how this came to be, You guys were ships passing in the night on Bauchler and Paradise. What a miss?

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Speaker 2: What a miss?

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Speaker 1: Actually, because I really am not just saying this because you two are both here, but it would you both together getting together on Paradise would have been a great addition to the season because you're both fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Some would say that, some would say.

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Speaker 1: That, hey, listen, if they're talking, at least you're doing something. So so it's reality TV, you know, don't get.

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Speaker 4: Us started on that experience.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's take it back. Before you know, we get into The Bachelor in Paradise and all of this fun relationship stuff. You guys had spoken a little before Paradise, right, you both knew you were going to be there. Kind of walk us through where your relationship was before you went to Paradise and you know how you connected and what was going on.

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Speaker 4: Take it away, baby, Well, we didn't definitely know we were both going to be there. I was really hopeful, like I had a feeling because I just had a good feeling. But I had messaged him first, So ladies, don't be ready to message somebody first. Because we knew of a mutual person. I don't know, long story short, somebody like compared me to him, and I just thought that was like comical, And we just started talking and Sam had given me like really really good advice just moving forward. So it was just like a little bit of chit chat. It wasn't anything crazy. And then yeah, we would just kind of like swipe up on each other's stories and that was really it. And then we just kind of started talking about Paradise, asking if each other were going. We both really didn't know, and that was an honest answer, and yeah, that was it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So going into paradise, I think it's safe to say you were both on each other's radar, like you never know until you get there.

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Speaker 1: But well, I mean, I don't know if I mean that's I don't know if that's safe to say. Were you Well, they were, I mean, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It was more friendly from what I'm Okay, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Tell us, were you like, maybe there's something that romantically or were you friend zoned?

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Speaker 2: No, I think there was, there was definitely something there romantically.

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Speaker 5: I think it's it's kind of easy to figure out in the way that two people communicate. You can figure out if somebody's trying to be friends or if they want something more than that. I think for us, we were trying not to spoil what could possibly be. You know, we're still communicating through a phone and through social media and stuff like that, so just kind of saving the you know, the the chit chat for in person getting to know each.

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Speaker 2: Other and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: So my experience on the Bachelorette was completely different than what hers was on the Bachelor. So whenever she got compared to me, I was figuring things out week by week because I didn't necessarily know what was going to be shown, what wasn't going to be shown. So all I wanted to do was kind of give her the heads up of, hey, what could happen. Hopefully it doesn't happen, Thank gosh, it didn't happen with her, But for me, whenever I went out to Paradise, she was the only name that I dropped. I think I was first and foremost because I talked to it. I knew that was somebody that I was going to be interested in. There was nobody else from really any other season that I was like that I spoke to, that I was really interested in. So I really just locked in on her, But ultimately she was She was really the only person that caught my eye. And now, long story short, I do understand why. So so yeah, that was That's that's my take for forgetting to Paradise at.

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Speaker 3: Least Okay, so you get down there, Ali Joe isn't there. We see you kind of start talking with Jazz, walk us through that relationship a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was extremely disheartened that that Ali Joe was there. I think I was the last person that came down for episode one, so everybody was already there on the beach outside of Kat and Dale. I think they were on a date whenever I went down there, So I was, you know, expecting to see Ali Joe there and uh, you know, and that she wasn't there, and we kind of took a little bit of a break and I'm like, hey, what you.

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Speaker 2: Know, what's going on here? Like I really did.

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Speaker 5: I put all my eggs into one basket and it wasn't there. So I had to completely diminish what I had thought I was going to walk into and just start from scratch. So ultimately, I was extremely nervous walking down there. I was definitely uneasy just from the way that my you know, the last time I was on TV, the way that it all went. So I went in there just with kind of just an open mind and wanted to see the way that some people treated.

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Speaker 2: Me maybe was going to be different than what other other people did, and Jess with somebody that.

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Speaker 5: Was just super warm. She also, i know, caught a little bit of hate on her season on the on the Bachelor as well, so it was something that she was like, hey, you know, don't don't sweat any of this stuff right here. Everybody that's here right now does understand this process a little bit. So you know, they're looking at you as Sam. They want to get to know you for, you know, what you claim to be, not what they, you know, the America think you are.

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Speaker 2: So she was somebody that really just I think took some.

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Speaker 5: Nerves away from me and uh, and that was something that was really important to me.

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Speaker 2: The timing from me getting to the beach to making.

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Speaker 5: Somebody to go on that date was very limited, so I got to talk to three people and that was it. Ultimately, just went with the person that made me feel the most comfortable in that moment right there, and.

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Speaker 1: That was just nice. I would say for our listeners, whoever ends up getting cast at Bachelor in Paradise, if you're listening to this podcast, that is important. You should go into Paradise and whoever you expect to see there, tell yourself that they're not going to be there, and if they are, they are it's a pleasant surprise. But I think that happens so much on this show, where people are like, Okay, like this is how I think it's going to go. Me and this person like hit it off on DMS, But I really I think we're going to be something.

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Speaker 5: And then it's a matter man, it's a matter of like human nature is to try and figure things out. You want to put yourself on a path of success, and the problem is that you can never figure out what the Bachelor production is going to do because they are already five steps.

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Speaker 2: Ahead of you.

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Speaker 5: So you think that you're on the right path and you have this game plan and then you go down there and Ali Joe isn't there, and my game plan is shot to hell.

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Speaker 3: After that, Yeah, it's this constant fight for trying to like control your experience and your journey while simultaneously having no control at all. Exactly, So, Ali Joe has jumped to you. Obviously Sam didn't work out with Jess. You get sent home, Ali Joe. You hit the beach, You have a sick entrance on that jet ski. You look great. Are you looking for Sam? When you hit the beach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So just like to rewind a little bit my experience on The Bachelor, Just like mentally, I have like a lot of anxiety behind the scenes. That environment was just like not the best for me. So preparing for a Bachelor and powered ice, I went in with it like such like a great head on my shoulders. I was like really comfid in myself. Like before the Bachelor, I had like three weeks to prepare, Like I got asked extremely last minute. This at least I had months to prepare. Mentally, I kind of knew what I was getting into. So when I was told I was going in with a date card on a jet ski, I was like, finally, this is my moment, Like I feel so good, Like I really feel like Sam's going to be there. They're doing this on purpose, they know like I want to meet him hopefully he like said he wanted to meet me, which is how I felt in the moment. So doing this like sick entrance with Parisa, who's my friend, I just felt so good and I was so hopeful. So when I got on the beach and I saw that he wasn't there, and I had found out that he had just got sent home. I was really disappointed, but like Sam just said, I also did have an open mind because you guys know too, you like, you know, you give up a lot of stuff to prepare for this show, Like I almost lost my job two times. So I was like, you know what, I'm here, I'm in the moment. I'm going to make the best of this situation. Everything happens for a reason. I would have loved to have met him, but you know, I'm here and I'm going to make the most of my opportunity. I'm open, Like that's what dating is about, and I have.

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Speaker 1: To you have to be when you go on these shows, like there's a part of you that has to be selfish, Like you have to be like hey, like I'm actually like this could go bad. I'm giving up. I'm giving up a lot, Like I got to make sure like I get what I want or try at least to get.

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Speaker 4: What I want absolutely, and like that's I feel like exactly what I did. But I just felt like I just was so disappointed. And I also was only there for like thirty six hours, so I really feel like I didn't get you know, the experience, Like, yes, do I have Sam, absolutely, but besides him and like separating the two, I just felt like so disappointed and frustrated. But you know, the thirty six hours I was there was cool. I did really good shrimp tacos.

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Speaker 3: I forgot you guys were having rose ceremonies like non stop on this season.

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Speaker 4: And also it rained every single day while we were well, I was only there for like two days like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I heard it rained a lot.

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Speaker 3: Cost Rika was a gorgeous setting to film, but that rain. I wanted to go a problem.

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Speaker 4: I'm never going back, Sam, you should go back though.

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Speaker 1: Honestly we went to We love Costa Rica. We were in Costa Rica last last like New Year's Eve, yes, for like twelve days and it was.

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Speaker 3: But it did rain like the first three days. Yes, And I was like, oh.

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Speaker 1: No, it did did. Yeah, okay, So so you both go on paradise. It doesn't work out the way you want and you have average experiences at best, but you did it, and then how does this come to be?

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Speaker 4: So I had message to him again, but like have a season to know that, Like, you know, I had my phone. I was like, I got a message this guy, and I was like, hey heard you were here a couple hours ago, and this is like on my way to the airport, and he was like, hey, here's my number, text me. We started texting. I got back to Florida, He got back to South Carolina. From Florida, I went to Jersey because, like, when I tell you, guys, I was so upset and I like was so distraught over this experience. I like literally had to come to Florida, drop my stuff off, pack new bag, and go to Jersey and be with my family because I was just I was so upset. So I was really upset. So Sam was there, and it's hard to talk to other people about this, which I'm sure you guys get because they're not in the same position. They don't understand. So Sam did and that's kind of when we really just started talking every day. I remember it was like Mother's Day weekend and I was with my mom and Sam and I were texting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about the first time you guys met actually in person. So you guys, so you both get back from Paradise and when do you actually meet up?

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Speaker 4: And Wall gave him a shot of whiskey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how long was that was? That? Like? A month.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, about a month went by where we were kind of just like talking back and forth, and then he finally booked a trip to Florida and the rest of his history versus His first trip was early June, mid June.

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Speaker 3: You guys facetiming or was this mostly like DMS?

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Speaker 5: No, we would FaceTime. Yeah, we would FaceTime. I'd like talked with her and her mom and stuff like that. Obviously, if I'm gonna fly to Florida, then uh, then I need to make sure that I'm walking into a situation where I'm not going to make I'm not gonna feel uncomfortable, She's not gonna feel uncomfortable. And and ultimately just seeing if we were compatible, you know, through the.

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Speaker 2: Through FaceTime and just talking and seeing how all.

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Speaker 5: That went, seeing if we could keep that connection for a month without ever seeing each other or meeting each other, if that was possible, and if it proved that it was, then you know, she was definitely worth a trip down there.

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Speaker 2: I was. I wasn't really nervous leading.

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Speaker 5: Up until the trip until my dad goes he said.

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Speaker 2: Where are you staying down there? And I was like, oh shit.

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Speaker 5: I'm like I just assumed that I was gonna stay with her, and I'm like, oh man, so I'm like sweating bullets. So she picks me up from the airport and we go back to her house, and like in the it's in the back of my brain like if she asked me where I'm staying, I am so fucked.

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Speaker 2: I'm so fucked.

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Speaker 5: And uh, I think I moved a little timidly around her for like the entire day. I think, uh, also too, she only knows me from Bachelor, you know what. Bachelor has shown not really me as a person outside of the month that we had spoke, So I don't want to give off any impression that she might have or.

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Speaker 2: Anything like that.

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Speaker 5: So I moved definitely, uh cautiously around her.

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Speaker 2: And I think she was the one that finally.

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Speaker 5: Was like, yeah, are we doing this or we're not doing this?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, here we go, here we go. You know, yeah, I can get behind this.

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Speaker 1: Ellie Joe, were you when he flew to Florida? Were you automatic? Was it like automatically like he's staying with me?

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Speaker 4: Like I like didn't know, and like I don't.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys should I don't know how you guys did have that Cobo.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: You're like, I don't want to. You're probably thinking like I don't want to be, like, so are you staying with me? And like give him any assumptions or if he's like no, then you're like putting yourself out there for rejection. Sam, you're probably feeling the same way, like I didn't even think of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm blaming my dad.

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Speaker 4: This is such a unique experience too, because I don't like having people here, like in my apartment, to be honest, but like, it's just such a unique experience that it was kind of like okay, but like I was, like, I can also drop them off at a motel or something down the street.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the street.

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Speaker 3: But truly, like I think if I was in your shoes, I picking him up and we hadn't had the conversation, I'd probably be like, well, let's just see how the first few hours go, and if it's weird, I'll be like, so where are you staying? And if it's good, then you know, we can see where then I take that.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine that though? Could you imagine being Sam? And then and then and then she hits you after like two and a half hours of hanging out. Where are you staying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's gonna be so it's going bad.

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Speaker 4: I live in a place that people vacation, but my I wasn't nervous about this because I kind of had a good feeling about like the flow of our conversations before we met in person. But something that was always on my mind is that I don't want a relationship and our conversations just because we have this in common to be about the Bachelor, Like there needs to be something else because in previously relationships are dating things like dating guys before, like the gym for instance. I'll talk to me about the gym and like their diet, and I'm like that's great, Like I don't care, Like there's got to be more right off the jump, like we had so much to talk about. We had so many things that we had in common and so many things that we definitely didn't have in common. So it's really nice to know that, like our relationship didn't just start because of this you know thing that we got kicked off of Paradise, Like it was more than that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, totally, do you think do you think you guys, if you if neither of you were on the show and you met, you would have hit it off the same way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I mean I would have walked up. I would have walked up too, that's for sure. So yeah, I think so. I think it was just something. It was such a good like icebreakers. Really, I think the best way that I could put it.

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Speaker 2: It's something that no matter you know, if you haven't.

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Speaker 5: Walked through the process of this show, then you will never understand it. I've tried to explain it to my parents, and it's so difficult to see anything past that, Hey, this is just a real dating show. The emotion that we all experience on this show is left only they're not you know, the eyes of America can't really fathom it. So for me, it was just a it was a really easy icebreaker with her her experience. Obviously coming from Paradise, she definitely had a lot to say and there was a lot to talk about, so there's always something there to fall back on. But also too, like she's just the easiest person really to talk to. She's straightforward, pretty blunt. I would consider myself the same way, just kind of a you know, fuck it mentality and that's just how we move, and if you don't like it, it's totally okay, and if you do, then great. So knowing that she moves, you know, she walks through life in a very similar fashion, just made it very easy to see that, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Whatever I saw is what I was going to get.

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Speaker 5: And I liked everything that I saw and continue to see.

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Speaker 3: So after that first meeting, I don't know how many days it was. You guys go your separate ways.

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Speaker 1: A date meeting sounds it was a weekend, Yeah, date?

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Speaker 2: Wait what meeting?

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Speaker 4: His first day ever, he ended up extending his flight to He was supposed to come from like a Friday to Sunday. And on Sunday he's like, I think I'm gonna stay and I was like, okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Out of here. Don't don't freaking nonchalant me saying that right there, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: Now, I've never I've never extended a flight, but we were having so much fun and also too like whenever I was booking my flight, the same thing. I didn't want to be in a place for too long and her feel uncomfortable or me feel uncomfortable. So I didn't want to push my you know, push the limits at all. And then Sunday came around and we were having a blast on a Sunday fun day and I thought, shit, I don't want to go home right now. Let's let's see if we can move this flight. And we did and it was Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: So when you leave, are you guys officially boyfriend and girlfriend?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when did that happen?

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Speaker 4: Uh, that happened the third time actually that we hung out. But here's the thing too, Like, and I'm sure you guys can relate to other people can relate, Like being with somebody consecutive days in a row is like going on like five dates. So like by the time we hung out the third time, that could have been like the fifteenth date by then. But yeah, the second time we hung out, I flew to South Carolina and I met like his entire family, and there was a lot of people in his family, friends, everybody. Like we weren't even really alone, like I was in the weeds with his family. But it was great and I feel like it was even said He's like, it's like a test, and I fully respect to that, because if I'm dating somebody, I need my family's approval, and he's the same way. So I think once he saw me kind of like fit in or how do I fit in with his family, then it was my turn to see how he could fit in with my family, and then we would go from there. And you know, you you I feel like in these types of reallyationships long distance, especially like you do these things sooner rather than later. And plus I don't even live in the same state as my family, so the timing, the timing was just crazy how it worked out for us all to basically meet.

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Speaker 1: And what's what is the how does this look moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: You're Ali, Joe, You're still in Florida. Sam, you're in Charleston, right or South Carolina?

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Speaker 2: South Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: What what is?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 1: There is there a plan yet?

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Speaker 4: We talked about it really often. I still have my lease.

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Speaker 1: We'll part of Florida, We'll part of Florida.

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Speaker 4: I'm in Fort Lauderdale.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: See, this is why I needed the show Bachelor and Paradise to win the money. And I could have just broke my lease, cup hot us together distance, but no, I think by you know, twenty twenty six, we'll have a lot in store for for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think whenever her lease ends, I own my house here in South Carolina. I think the long goal is to live in Florida. I was just there this past weekend, and I'm not gonna lie. It was really tough to be in the you know, eighty degree weather, and then by the time I landed in South Carolina at ten o'clock at night, it was twenty five degrees. I forgot to drip my faucet and my water froze. So I'm like, sh dude, I did not want to be here anymore. So long goal is to be in Florida. But I think the short term goal is to probably make her way to South Carolina for a little bit. We'll live together, save some money, and then go buy home that we can kind of both see ourselves living in raising a family and down down in Florida.

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Speaker 1: What how far of a drive is that?

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Speaker 2: Ten hours?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Really, it's that I for some reason I thought it was a lot closer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my sister said the same thing the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like South Carolina and Florida, Like, you're right there.

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Speaker 2: Only five hours. It's only five hours to Jacksonville. But when you get into like the southern part of Florida. It's yeah, it's down.

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Speaker 1: There, Florida.

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Speaker 4: That's another thing we also said to like if he was to live, probably in any other state, this wouldn't work, like the flights an hour and a half, saying, you know, we're on the east coast, even if he was, let's say I was in Florida and he was Injuried Like, to me, that's even too far, Like we're right, I feel like where we need to be at least to make long distance work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how have you guys been doing that? What's what are the hacks? What are the tips to make this work? Long distance?

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Speaker 4: We see each other basically every other weekend the past time we have it, and that felt really long. But just like planning things that like we're excited to like do together, like we always have something to look forward to. It's only off. I'm not going to lie, but you know it's really worth it to us.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, which is being intentional.

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Speaker 5: It's being intentional with I think all of your conversations and stuff, and obviously there's days where you know the depth of some the depth of some certain conversations from an outsider's perspective can be shallow or deep, but to her and I, whenever you know you can feel the emotion behind the words that you put out, whether it's how is your day or if it's something that's you know, a little bit more deep, as long as the intention is there with you know, just hey, this person means everything to me, then yeah, it's kind of.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of easy to maneuver through that.

00:22:17
Speaker 5: Not seeing each other is definitely difficult, But the communication aspect of it, she's a good communicator. I'm working on it, but yeah.

00:22:28
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's one of those things.

00:22:29
Speaker 5: It's really not as bad whenever the person means as much to you as what Alijade means to me. What are guys?

00:22:36
Speaker 4: This horoscope signs I'm a Scorpio.

00:22:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Capricorn.

00:22:41
Speaker 1: I think what month were you born?

00:22:44
Speaker 2: January January fourteenth?

00:22:46
Speaker 1: What's January?

00:22:48
Speaker 3: January? Is Capricorn and I think you're bordering on Aquarius.

00:22:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what I don't Yeah, Okay, before before we'd let you guys go, Sam, it's been announced that you were casting on the Home Improvement Bachelor home rental show. Were you surprised by that. How did it go? What can you tell us without spoiling it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was definitely shocked. I think anytime I get a phone call from California, I'm like, oh gosh, what if I.

00:23:24
Speaker 1: Do you keep getting calls? I mean, I mean listen, like, hey, this is like a year.

00:23:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously.

00:23:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's still the same shock every time I get all the time, like these people they can't stand me, and then they keep calling me. So I was shocked, but I was also relieved to hear that it wasn't a reality dating show. It was just more of a you know, a renovation show. So it was it was neat because that's definitely obviously more of my wheelhouse. So it was a lot of fun. Honestly. It was cool to get there, and I'm probably allowed to talk about other people that are on the show. Noah Herb was on the show, so it was cool because I had met Noah previously. Well, Aaron was on the show, and so Aaron was my roommate. He was my first roommate in Australia, so I got to know him.

00:24:12
Speaker 2: He's a twin. They live in Oklahoma. My dad is from Oklahoma.

00:24:15
Speaker 5: So actually the last time I went there, right after the show, before the Bachelotte had aired. I was in Oklahoma, and I stopped and I saw Noah and Abby and whatnot. So it was cool to catch up with them, and then to walk into the house and and see Noah there. I was like, oh, well, this is awesome right here. You know, I'm already friends with this guy.

00:24:33
Speaker 2: So it was definitely a sense of relief. And then yeah, the whole process of it was not what I was expecting. I think in a really good way.

00:24:43
Speaker 5: I had so much fun and definitely the most enjoyable time I've had being a part.

00:24:49
Speaker 2: Of being a part of a show, to say the least.

00:24:54
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, were you were you worried? Were you worried at all? Because it is still a bachelor, right and you guys are dating and now he's he's going on a bachelor show that's supposedly about home improvement.

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Speaker 4: You never know, No I remember he called. I mean he was like, I don't know if I should do it, and I was like, you need to do this. This is such a great opportunity, Like this is literally what you do for a living, Like put yourself out there First of all, never know what opportunities are going to come from it, Like this is literally what you do for a living. So I just thought, from like a business standpoint regardless, that he should just go. And Yeah, it was like early on when we first started dating and we didn't know how long we would be apart from each other. But I was so excited for him. I was like, you gotta go, you gotta go. I was like, I want to how come no one's asking me.

00:25:43
Speaker 2: To do there?

00:25:43
Speaker 3: Can you tell us a little bit, Sam, just like your experience, what you do for people that maybe don't know, and like how it you felt like it was going to help you in this competition.

00:25:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I am a residential contractor back home, so one thing, it's the only job I've ever had my entire life, so being I think having the knowledge to be able to build a home from the ground up is a big plus. Also, just the vision that you have to have in my field is you have to be able to see the finished product before you ever start, and that can be challenging.

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Speaker 2: So I felt pretty confident going into.

00:26:19
Speaker 5: A show like that where we had to really put our skill set out on the table, not just not just building things, but being able to actually design things, having to see an image and then bring it to life. So I think me doing that for as long as I have, and then going out there, I knew that I would be or I assumed.

00:26:38
Speaker 2: That I would be in pretty good shape.

00:26:40
Speaker 5: I didn't know who all was going to be out there, and yeah, everybody brought a different skill set to the table.

00:26:46
Speaker 2: I think I've just been very fortunate to have a pretty good teacher back here.

00:26:50
Speaker 5: That has taught me so many different aspects to this field. And then just being able to go onto that show and implement all of them, just like it put my mind to ease a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We're really excited to watch maybe you and know it will be the next Property Brothers.

00:27:04
Speaker 5: Who knows if there's.

00:27:05
Speaker 3: A physical Bachelor competition, Ali, Joe, we gotta get you on it.

00:27:09
Speaker 4: I'll be the new Jesse Palmers.

00:27:11
Speaker 2: There you go.

00:27:13
Speaker 1: Thank you both so much for coming on and talking to us, and hope you guys both enjoy your holidays.

00:27:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, hope you guys have a merry Christmas, a good new year.

00:27:24
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