David Banner Schools Us on Southern Rap History, Homeless to Grammy Winner, TI, Lil Wayne, Pimp C

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, all the smoke, l a brother Nadale ready to be exact nic See, I like your floral pad. We're contrasting a little bit today. You're with the florals with the tired eyes. He's with the army fatigue. Man, this is long overdue, but like you said, it's always time. It's always the right timing. Our guy Gino had picked you up today. Yeah, and you guys had a brief conversation about you just being ready to get up out of here. Overall, first of all, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Dave Man, thank you, ah Man, my brother thank you.

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Speaker 1: Right would talk to us about the root of your guys conversation?

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Speaker 3: Well, can I say something before we start?

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Speaker 4: Man, I say you should have let him do this?

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Speaker 1: Do that.

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Speaker 3: I do want to say something man. It's very important to me.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: I try to make sure that we show proper respect for each other because in our culture, when we have problems with people, we loud.

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Speaker 1: Then when we have.

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Speaker 3: True respect and admiration for each other, we don't say anything or we whisper. You understand what I'm saying. Like, Bro, you all have done something in sports man and have given our coaching people from our coach who really from it a voice in a way that's so unapologetic, bro, but so needed, you know. And to a certain degree, some people and we don't have to call no names, have warped it.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Y'all do what y'all do, Bro, but it has a certain level of honor, has a certain level of respect, bro like, and I'm so so so so can I say, fucking y'all, I'm so fucking proud of y'all, dude, and as a man, Bro, I want y'all to know that bro and y'all both have done it in different ways, man, And so for you all to give other people jobs, give other people ways, you know, because a lot of times, Bro, when we successful, we were just talking about how a lot of people hower og og. But I'm actually just starting, Bro, I'm about to do all action films bro. Like, who would have ever ever thought that? Man? And I'm so fucking happy, and so I wanted to tell y'all man like, you both have grown up in front of each other because I got two questions for both of y'all. I got a question for each one of y'all that I think y'all fans would benefit from But you know, man, just just thank you all for representing the culture and then represent those of us who are hot heads. Like Bro, it took me, took me almost thirty years. Bro, that David bannershit didn't come from rapping.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you that because I mean, obviously a fan of your music early on, not really knowing you've been getting a chance to know you over the last handful of years. Your energy and your positivity is different. When did that shift? And obviously you brought it up.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll answer your question if you answer mine first. Bro, something Bro, something something. I always wanted to ask you this and it sort of fucked up. Then I'm gonna ask you this on camera. But Bro, something something happened to you that changed your bro in my life, in life, it's something that something happened, Bro, and it to a certain degree. Bro, I'm just seeing you get it back.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Took your happiness away? Bro, Like what happened to you? Bro? Man, if you don't mind.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't mind. I mean it's just been a journey. I think my you know, my my journey has been a very public journey, and I think you know, obviously growing up with two parents that were into drugs but functioning, you know, facing racism. I just always had a real chip on my shoulder and then had to grind to make the league. So I think there was always maybe a chip, but also a misconception of who I was as a person as I continue to grow, you know, just figuring this life out as we go, you know what I mean. Obviously fail relationships and kids and and trouble on and off the court. But I think trips at the four, Yeah, it wasn't even long. It was only fifteen minutes. Yeah. No, But again, I think there's a obviously a reputation's earned, whether good or bad. And I think some of my reputation has earned, but I think some of it's almost kind of like mystified, almost to an urban legend type status. At the end of the day. I mean, my team knows me, stacks known me for a long time. Like I'm a real chilled out, down to earth, regular person who like wears the emotions. And you know, my life is unfolded in front of the world because I chose twice to have my family on reality television, you know what I mean. So I give that people an opportunity to really have that inside looks so at the end of the day, I mean, there's always a ton of judgment and opinions on situations, but I just, you know, just day by day try to improve as a man and grow. And you said, I have my happiness back. Now you can feel it. Yeah, that's good. That's sitting there. It's getting feeling again. I mean, it's yeah, yeah, see it. I'm serious in my bright colors. Yeah, no, it's again. It's just I wear my life on my sleeve, you know. Me said, You're gonna ride the good and the bad with me. I won't let it affect my day. But it's funny you said that because maybe, like a month ago, my six year old was like, damn are you said? And I just thought I had a regular face watching TV, you know what I mean. So I definitely feel it. Just a lot of shit going on. But I'm on this new spiritual journey and I just think day by day, I'm getting stronger and improving.

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Speaker 3: Can I clear up something on youall platform?

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 3: Somebody told me yesterday they was like, man, well not yesterday. A couple weeks ago, it was like banner like sometimes it seems like you're so mad, and you had this chip on your shoulder similar to you. And then I thought about something and it pissed me off. I said, tell me the only time I get mad, And then it was like, damn when people fucking with black folks, So only get mad over your ass. Like, we have good lives. Actually we could fall back. I'm near the rest of our life and be very fucking irresponsible. But like, my anger only comes about people mistreating my people. Bro, That's the only thing that fucking make me mad. Besides that, Bro, I have an awesome fucking life and we're a big guy, so most people ain't gonna do or say shit to us in our face anyway.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: That so now y'all question, bro, like, how do you deal with man? Like knowing because I'm watching man, how responsible you becoming with your anger? Because I deal with anger issues like both of you all do, and like when people don't understand, mine comes through constant prayer, constant meditation. I do a lot of meditation and a lot of fucking therapy. You know what I'm saying. It's funny because one of my therapists is white and I being there, like the fucking white phones to the white dude. That's the craziest shit. But but like, bro, like, how do you deal with knowing that you have a certain amount of influence. I know who you are, a certain amount of calls that you can make. We just got off the phone and one of them people and a lot of times, bro Like, you have to love people more than they love themselves. Bro Like, I'm watching how you navigate that. Where did that come from?

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Speaker 5: I think I didn't got to the point where you know, I still have crazy thoughts who want to do crazy ship trust me go, I ain't through working with me yet. But I love the people like my team and people who who who believe in me, who I'm responsible for.

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Speaker 4: So I've grown to know that.

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Speaker 5: If if I fall, they all all you know what I'm saying everything, So I don't, like I told I said, I'm not gonna be the person my attitude now, I'm not gonna be the person.

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Speaker 1: To fuck it up.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying for nobody, especially the people that's depending on me. So that's I think now. You know, perfect example, somebody says something about me and George Fullard recently, No, you know, I normally.

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Speaker 4: Anything somebody says, I'm jumping on this.

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Speaker 5: I didn't say nothing, you know what I'm saying, because I know that person is trying to bait me to say they name. You know what I'm saying, And I know I saw somebody. By sawing the person, they wouldn't say nothing, you know what I'm saying. But just because I have people depending on me and the responsibilities responsibilities I have, I make better decisions. But I want to say something to about what you're saying about him. I think he's I think people don't understand the responsibility that Matt has on the shoulders with this company, with family, Like it's a lot that he's done and he's built. He has a big role in where our company is today. You're giving us our props. He has a big part of that. So people don't understand what all the bullshit they hear read, they don't understand the responsibility and things he's carrying and the things he's doing for all of us, not just his family. He has all of us, this whole company on the shoulders, you know what I'm saying. So to see him get his happiness back, but it's good for all of us to see. But at the same time, he got a lot, he got a lot of dealing with with this company and family and stuff like that. So people don't see that, you know what I'm saying. They just see the bullshit that people read, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just giving you a side of my brother. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I love I love him regardless, you know what I'm saying, good and bad.

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Speaker 3: But and I think it's very powerful because we don't get to see that in Americas, y'all brotherhood. I don't know if y'all know how important it is because if you even think as a rapper, there's not many of us who love rap groups and they still together right barely ever see that Man Dayla Soul is one of the only groups that I know of that real, real lives stayed together. So it's a mischief in the Bay Area, but it's not too many of them. So like kids are actually looking at y'all brotherhood, and sometimes I'm realizing that we the concept of us is actually bigger than bigger in who we are as human beings.

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Speaker 1: Totally we didn't. You know what's funny is it's starting this show. It was never That wasn't my thought process. That wasn't either of our thought process. We didn't really know what we had we and we wanted to build a safe space. But in the same time, to your sentiment, it was encouraging our brothers and sisters do the same. We jumped in this shit. There was maybe two or three of us. Now there's hundreds of you know, similar talking about sports and shooting the shit. But that was never our mindset. But to to you know, the highest human acts is to inspire, you know what I mean. So I think that's something and obviously having a voice that is respected in the space is something we don't take for granted. I think you know, you saw Stack and I play our career and haters to love us. We went about it the way we went about it, and I think we've been able to polish that version of our athletic self into this next phase of business and have the right business acremen to be able to still have the same success, if not more. I think we're both you know, obviously he was a better score that we were both role players to an extent, you know what I mean for our careers and to be able to have the success we've had post career and to almost have our second act just as big, if not bigger than our first act is crazy. You know obviously you know the march he led was heard around the world, you know what I mean. To have a voice that carries that far and is respected that far is a huge responsibility. So I think we've both grown post career in that space understanding the responsibility that has been bestowed upon us.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think any of you all can talk about too many men or women and had to respect in the hood the way that you all do. But then it's able to deal, maneuver and navigate that corporate space, yeah, the way that y'all have.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I've been in and Jack to me is starting to kind of he can do it. He just had to be pushed, I think. But I've always proud of myself on being able to be in there.

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Speaker 3: Jack don't give a fuck me.

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Speaker 1: He's starting to.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: In the past, he hasn't.

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Speaker 3: There's all that smoke.

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Speaker 1: I want to stand.

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Speaker 4: I want to stand the hood twenty four seven. But I'm starting I'm starting to come about the hood now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think in the past, but I mean again to your point, to be respected and be in a in a in a dangerous space, but feel safe and be safe and respected by those peers, and but then also be a call to the White House. You'll also be in these Disney buildings to also start our own company. There's not too many people that have that type of versatility. But I think the reason why we have that, we had it and we have it even more now is because we stay true.

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Speaker 3: And you own your own shit huge, Like I've been talking about that, like we got to start back putting out things America has convinced us. Did you talk, Talk Talk. One of the reasons why I don't have a podcast anymore is because I think it's too many niggas talking. I really do. It's too many motherfuckers un in their mouth that's not qualified and I ain't saying nothing. That's why I respect y'all so much. Mother fuck can't tell y'all sit about basketball, you lived it, you know. One of the reasons why I stopped producing as much as I did was because there was a white an r He was twenty three years old and came to me talking about southern music. Excuse me, bitch, you can't tell me about no fucking Southern music. Maybe maybe R and B. Okay, maybe I take that, maybe country, maybe Dad. But for you to feel comfortable enough in my culture to think that you can tell somebody whether I had a big part to do with it or a small part, but somebody that really was in the trenches doing this shit for real, you feel comfortable enough to even say anything. That's a problem. I got a problem with that. But where the blessing comes in is I used to want to do something. Now I understand that David Banner as a concert up. People want you to go to jail. People want you to touch them so they can sue you. What I'm realizing is that our anger is actually the devil's remote control because once it let go, both all of us are examples and when that shit went way wrong, yep. But the blessed part is that we can live in it. Though it's one thing. Once I decide to go, it's gone. I mean, it just is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when did that switch over happen? Though? Like I said, we've kind of our journey's kind of played out more on television because we you know, played sports. But when did your kind of that switch flip to Obviously it's still in me, but I understand it's bigger than me now.

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Speaker 3: I used to I used to be a really wild dude. I'm actually preparing to do a travel show and where people don't know, bro, I jump out of airplanes. I used to do all of my own stunts.

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Speaker 1: You do white people all.

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Speaker 3: That, well, well, well well, well, well, well all humans have a want to tell that's death in danger. But the fact that black people us just living on this earth is dangerous. It's the reason why we don't. We could just go out in the hood and get that brush that y'all get from jumping out of motherfucking plane. But as a CEO, I always wanted to know, like what the fuck why these white boys do that shit? Like what is it? And I realized when I jumped out a plane for the first time, I had a meeting because I did the end. I did the music for the international release of the A Class for Mercedes Beings one year, and I was really nervous about talking to the CFO of Mercedes Bears after I jumped out that plane and looked looked at death the way man. Fuck that dude. Yeah, Like, I ain't put on these draws the same way I do. And I think that that is the reason why I started testing those boundaries. If I can swim with a shark, I can definitely swim with your black ass.

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Speaker 1: I'm dead serious.

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Speaker 3: And I just realized, man that instead of think about this, bro, I think about this in training because a lot of my friends ask me why do I train so hard in the gym and still run and fight and do the things that I do. I'm asking, as fuck I am. I get a ship over here, I'm probably gonna lead it in a second. That's what my homie said when I got here. He's like, man, watch you like you've been eating powdered downnuts. Like but but honestly, though, I learned that if, if, when, when mountains and hills come, if you set artificial ones in your life, then it won't shock you when life brings. You're ready, stay away, stay around danger. People always say that, bro, stay around the hood and with the hood, then you ain't never got to go back home because you never really left, you know. And I'm just grateful. One thing that I can say, bro, is that I'm one of the few people that hip hop allowed to grow up. Most people want you to stay exactly who you are, you know, similar to how they do Marriy J. Blige and Anthony Hamilton. Some people they don't want to see us happy. They don't want to see us move to that next left. They want to keep y'all mad, you know what I'm saying. And so for me, Bro, I'm just grateful that in all of this time, Bro, they allowed me to grow up.

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Speaker 1: It's a blessing. Back to my original question that just blew by two of your questions, But I want to know, I mean, because again you're so tapped into kind of just life and culture and policy. You mentioned being ready to just get up out of here. It's got to that point for you feel like.

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Speaker 3: No, what happened with me is I realized, Bro, that for me and my spirituality, God showed me that I am the God of my reality. And I think that's the reason why we go through depression. That's the only reason why I consider that they may may be a heaven a hell is because we make choices. Other animals don't have the opportunity to make a choice, right, So what I realize is that if you really think about it, bro especially with our influence, like let's say let's pick a place Hawaii, right, well, for me, let's say Bali. I like Bali, all right, you can either let Bali be your place that you go vacation and then I for me go back to Atlanta, right or since we got money in influence, might not allow Bali to be our home and then fly back to Atlanta to do work. Literally, so if you spend let's say in a month, if it's thirty days in a month, you spend twenty eight days in Atlanta working and two days in Bali, right, well, then why not spend two days in Atlanta working? You know what I'm saying, We actually can do that. And what they do to black people is they make us feel like our worth is connected with how hard we fucking work. I'm learning it's not about working hard, it's about thinking hard and setting up systems. You all, if you chose to, you can now put youngsters in these seats and then y'all can go set up other systems like this and just check on your systems. But we feel like if we're not working every day, think about Oprah there was a time in Oprah's career if she wasn't on every fucking cover of every magazine, it wasn't popping. If she wasn't in every movie. Bro, that's high priced slavery. If you really really think about it, BRO, we should be thinking dog. We should be on the beach. Bro, like you all set, I just gotta be honest with y'all. I'm high as fuck. I wouldn't have done this in any other setting, Bro, but like, no, like y'all, these ain't my shoes. I left my shoes and I was like, I knew that I was taking you bitches a trip on that, but seriously, Bro, I walked in and I felt comfortable enough to be like, hey, Bro, I left my shoes.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I got some I thought that motherfuckers went with your fit.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was you.

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Speaker 3: I think that your But seriously, that's the environment that you are set man and and me. Bro. I just this is very personal, BRO. Like I haven't treated my eye, I don't treat myself well. I fight for everybody else because I know how it feels to be for Mississippi. You know, you know how it feels to be for p a Bro.

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Speaker 5: Tell I tell him what I told your stairs when I when I first saw you, because we talked all the time. First thing I said to him what I said, Bro, you're getting risk and I know what he's doing. I know how you been moving around. I know I know the blessings that's coming this way and he trying to he moving there. When as soon as I seen him today, the first thing I said to him my first words, Bro, you get some resk.

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Speaker 3: Actually because I know it, actually said you want some weed. Now you didn't say that.

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Speaker 1: I know. I say that is not smoke.

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Speaker 3: That's the second thing you say.

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Speaker 1: Just joking.

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Speaker 3: But seriously, y'all, Like, I don't I don't treat myself well, bro, And I'm learning. My therapist told me this, Bro. My therapist said, you always talking about black people, black people, black people. He said, well, you black, so why don't you treat yourself the way you want to see black people treat it? And I was like, fuck, I damn sure do you know what I'm saying? And so like now I do I do myself better?

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Speaker 1: Y'all?

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Speaker 3: You know me, bro, I never won't know all this ship at the at the.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you got a style its not Brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you motherfucker's mouth. I told him ithert that. I was like, Bro, like, you can't offer me ten thousand dollars my outfit?

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Speaker 4: Nine? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How to give me?

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Speaker 5: You?

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Speaker 3: How to give me eighty?

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Speaker 1: You feel me?

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 3: People treat you how you treat yourself? You understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting too, because I've always been a shirt off the back, giver, provider, push and neglect myself when I'm actually the one that's really in control of everything around me, Bron, interesting aspect.

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Speaker 3: We need you here, We need you to love yourself. So listen to me, y'all. I usually don't talk about this kind of stuff, but this environment makes me feel comfortable. If God was standing over there when you pray, where would you look over there? Where God is right? You know why you close your eyes. You close your eyes because you're actually praying inward. If people knew where God actually was, That's why so hard for black people to find God, because we can't believe that God is actually inside of us. So if we really thought about that, Bro, we would treat our bodies better. Like Bro, the shit that I eat. I just came back from Columbia doing stem cell bio x because of what you said. I was so embarrassed, BRO, when you asked me the question, because I know I should be sleeping more and I get I get on my wheel, bro, because sometime we don't we can't even believe that we that blessed. We should know it, We should know that we deserve this. Bro. As hard as you all work, you deserve to live better.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: And thank you for allowing us to meet your children.

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Speaker 4: Broh Man.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy your kids like I'm watching TV. God, that's just so fucking dope and they so free. Yeah, Like I wish that's once one of my dreams, BRO, that if my children grew up. I don't want them to be ass wholes, but if they chose to be and they had that kind of freedom without pushing it on other people and being oppressive, And I hope for my children to be free, bro. And you're allowing that for your kids.

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Speaker 5: You want your twins to be burnt out like his it was about thirteen fourteen.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy them, Bro, I really do that.

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Speaker 1: You've been out spoken about you know, I'm saying this isn't the best time right now for our black community and being poor and stuff needing to band together? Why is that such an issue in our communities?

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Speaker 3: You feel, well, actually, I think it's the best time. I think it's the best time because America has clearly shown us that we're not crazy. You remember the stuff we used to tell people. They really fucking thought we was crazy, bro, And now that it's crazy times, they come and get the crazy men. You know what I'm saying, This is actually the best time in history for us to be free. The thing is that most people won't admit. And I'll say this, bro, and I said this a lot, but I mean this. I think some, not all. I think some black people they don't want to free the slaves. They want their opportunity to hold a whip. They want to do the same thing to black people that white people did. Think about rap in the NBA. Truthfully, to all it really takes for the NBA, it's fucking seats, a fucking ball and some asses in them seats. Bro, It ain't as hard as we make it, bro. But think about it, when somebody is a rapper in your hood, you being hot or having the buzz, what does that equate? That equates power?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: What's the first thing a rapper going and do go find them a white person to run their business because they don't believe that they can run their own fucking businesses because we are afraid of power. I think that black people are afraid of freedom the same way they're afraid of death. Death may be better, but you don't want to test that shit because you ain't never been there before. You feel me, so for me, bro, like, what does freedom look like? That's the reason why I started a Banner Vision and I started my movie company. Watch this, y'all, it's gonna fuck y'all head up. There was there was this black child with a father and she was screaming uncontrollably. Her dad said, baby, what's wrong? She said, daddy, are they gonna be any black people in the future. I was watching the Jetsons and I didn't see nothing. So it's our responsibility to show them. You all are showing them what sports looks, what looks like in the future. Y'all are showing them what it's supposed to be. Can't no motherfucker tell y'all about basketball. Motherfucker can talk all of that shit, But if you ain't never been on that court. You ain't never had them inside and outside pressures. A bitch can't tell you shit and they shitn't right, and so like that's how I feel about now. Now is the best time if we get off our asses. These kids are waiting for us, most negroes. Bro, they ain't even respected in their own hood. How can you save the world and you can't even save your own house. You can't even save your own hood. Bro. If we all went outside and picked up the fucking paper in our front yard and everybody did that, inherently, it'll be a better place. It'll be a cleaner place. So that's the reason why it means so much to be Bro. I think you a fucking sucker if you got this power influence and you turn that shit in on people. I never understood that, Bro. People would come to Mississippi, Bro, and not like we was dirty, Bro, act like they couldn't come out their little VIP motherfucker. We paid all this money to see you. You can't bring your black ass and then wonder why you don't make it home safe. No, I'm dann serious, Bro. Yeah, Bro, I love La so much because I know how La pressed niggas and Bro they protected me, dog, Bro. When I left and moved away from la and I started realizing the motherfuckers that was around me and what they did for a living man. I was so grateful to their motherfuckers. Bro, they allowed me, they had a level of respect or reverence for me. Well, they ain't even let me see some of that shit. Bro, Come on, bro, you can't buy that. That's one thing. And these niggas came excuse me, these people came by. Yeah, facts, All right, let's bring it back up, y'all. I said I was gonna do bound them.

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Speaker 5: Let's migrate back to Mississippi. Brookven so Port Arthur is a small place. You know, it's only forty fifty thousand dollars forty fifty thousand people eleven k where you from.

00:27:09
Speaker 1: Talk about growing up in brook.

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Speaker 5: Haven and how it is because that's one of them cities where everybody know everybody, everybody doing.

00:27:15
Speaker 1: The same thing. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Well, brook Cavern. I grew up in Jackson. My grandmother and my family like from Slavery. That's where they're from. Yeah, And the crazy thing is it's fifteen minutes from a cone where Snoop was born where Brandy and ray J was born. You know that period and that part of Mississippi and Mississippi as a whole, so almost like the birthplace of culture to a certain degree.

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Speaker 4: Montellis Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And so for me, Bro, growing up in Mississippi, man was it just really made me and prepared me for the world. I can make it there, Bro, I can make it anywhere, Bro. And actually fair Con told me that fair Con was like Banner, like, if you can do anything, Bro, with the press of black people coming from out of Mississippi, just the fact that you are from Mississippi, where people think sorta is the beacon of racism. If I can come from out that bitch man and do the stuff that I'm doing, even with my diet, people are so surprised.

00:28:14
Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't ate pork since I was in eleventh grade. That again, I haven't ate pork since I was in.

00:28:21
Speaker 1: Y'all are missing out, Bro, So well, you send me pictures of bacon and bacon something.

00:28:27
Speaker 4: I would see all kinds.

00:28:28
Speaker 3: Of shit every day and I'm not see but see, this is the thing that people like about me.

00:28:34
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:28:35
Speaker 3: If I could bathe in pork. I never said that ship wasn't good, didn't taste good. I never said. But what I will say, and watch this answer this question for me. And I'm not trying to convince you. If you knew for a fact, watch this. If you knew for a fact that rat tasted good, would you eat it?

00:28:53
Speaker 1: If it tastes like bacon?

00:28:54
Speaker 3: Probably hilarious, but like a rats rats.

00:29:03
Speaker 1: We were eating some ship that we don't really know. I mean, my daddy was a butcher by day, in the streets by night, so I knew about how nasty these animals are. These motherfuckers just taste good, he said. I just I work out a lot to try to flush it. But yeah, there's a lot of it in me.

00:29:20
Speaker 5: Cheers to bacon. Yeah, no, I would not do that. I would not do that. Do it over, do it over.

00:29:30
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. I got doing that. I got a cousin that came to my crib and he thought I was joking about pork to dB. Yeah, he cooked something while I was gone, and I smelled it when I came in the house, and I threw away all that ship, the pots and pans, everything.

00:29:50
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:29:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, no pork in my house bro at all And actually that came from hip hop me listening to Brand Nubian when I was young. Yeah yeah, and that's one of the things I always wanted to do in hip hop.

00:30:03
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:30:03
Speaker 3: It is like, we used to have people that would take us to different places. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like, think about how powerful NWA was, bro, Like we knew that cops were beating the shit out of us and the places that we were from, and nobody ever talked about that shit. And yeah, hell yeah yeah UGK for life. Bro.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: Hey, but the time you was growing up though, it was the murder capital. Yeah.

00:30:28
Speaker 3: Well, Jackson, Mississippi was the murder capital of the United States. And actually my friend Chucky was the first person to die in Jackson, Mississippi from game violence. So it hit me a little bit different. And that's one of the reasons why I love rap music so much. And people didn't notice about me, bro. I used to be a battle rapper. I was a hip hop dude, and all my friends would always ask me, like, why you listen to that shit? The niggas don't give a fuck about us, And I was like, Bro, the shit that most people rap about, we see that shit outside our house. Why do I want to encapsulate my shit, myself in that shit all the time. We see that the ship that most people rap about the most, the most shit that people rap about. Bro, we really new that shit for real, and it's not cute. That's why I tell you it's not cute. Like a lot of people trip on me, man, because I always told my homies, like, bro, if y'all don't have a job, get the fuck away from me. We can't fuck this shit up that we doing, man like. I never got that shit about rappers. What are you mad about? Bro? We got out. You need to protect this shit, dude. Why you why you showing out? Dug. That's why I never ever got in trouble, Bro. People trip on that. I ain't never got in trouble because I know how much a blessing these Bro. I'm from Mississippi. I'm from the poorest motherfucking state in the United States, and y'all gonna fuck this shit up over some bullshit, over some words, some nursery rhyps, shooting a fucking basket shit shit, the fuck if I fucked this up, bro, And I am so grateful, even man like I'm deding serious. I'm grateful for you all to allow me on y'all platform, and I know that we're friends and we know each other. That ain't got nothing to do with y'all business. For you all to allow me to have access to y'all fans, it means something to me. I am not playing bro. When I went to the clubs, all my hommies with trip like this is my job. Who's the dope dealer, who's the most influential girl, who's the DJ?

00:32:29
Speaker 1: Like?

00:32:30
Speaker 3: I always looked at that. I still do that to this day. Y'all saw when I walked up in the spot at Steph Shit, first thing, I went to the fucking DJ. What's happening to humboy? Everys your name blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Who's the most influential person in this room? I'm not playing when I'm in the club, dog, And I don't really want to go to that shit when I'm off. People like, man, why you don't want to go out while yn't want to go to concert? Man, I don't want to see all that loud shit. I'd be somewhere quiet.

00:32:55
Speaker 4: Dog.

00:32:55
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers think I'm a geek because that's my fucking lifestyle.

00:32:59
Speaker 1: Bro, did you have a place sports?

00:33:00
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:33:01
Speaker 1: What you played?

00:33:01
Speaker 3: Play basketball? Rand?

00:33:03
Speaker 1: Track?

00:33:03
Speaker 4: I used trash day style.

00:33:05
Speaker 3: Hey, he didn't ask me what? He didn't ask me if I was good? I ain't nobody talking about your active career. I ain't get on here. I mean I don't have no basketball career. I couldn't let him go on like, yeah, yeah, he asked what I played. I didn't say I was good and killing.

00:33:30
Speaker 5: But don't push what level you playing?

00:33:34
Speaker 3: I was just high school?

00:33:35
Speaker 4: High school? It starts hell now or you just start?

00:33:38
Speaker 1: Did you get some time? Yeah?

00:33:39
Speaker 3: I got a little. So what was your talent that much? What's crazy? I was like Chambers? But what's funny is, Bro, I didn't have a vertical bro. Ye, I had a one leg like Tom Chamber. I put your ass in there he had.

00:33:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah that's and I dunk on a lot of people too.

00:33:57
Speaker 3: And I had heart, bro, Like that was got to get you a long way. To be honest with you, Bro, I shouldn't have played basketball. I was really good at track. To this day, I still I can be fat and run eighteen run eighteen miles huh yeah, very long distance.

00:34:13
Speaker 4: I'm not fast.

00:34:13
Speaker 3: I can just run all day. I can Zulu truck. I really believe. And I heard Will Smith say this one time, and I actually now believe it. Running is mental. All you really have to do is take one more step. What happened is the same way we do with our goals. We look at our lofty goals and it intimidates us when in actuality, all you gotta do is take one more step. Any motherfucker can take one more step.

00:34:36
Speaker 5: I gotta think of that when I'm I'm going to get this peloton, so I gotta keep one more step stack because of the shit.

00:34:42
Speaker 3: Well, but I ain't gonna tell people where we are because I wanted to stay out here. I was gonna get a spot out here and it didn't work out. But like, bro, go by that water, Like get outside, bro, that peloton. Shit is cool and it's raining, but get outside in the sun and look at it. Like Bro, you walk by and see a nice ass when you run by. Bro, that'll help you. I'm there, serious.

00:34:59
Speaker 4: I motivation.

00:35:02
Speaker 1: I go to a gym with a lot of motivation. It's crazy.

00:35:06
Speaker 4: You get through.

00:35:10
Speaker 1: You are walking motivation. Bro, Thank you I live through.

00:35:13
Speaker 4: You appreciate that.

00:35:15
Speaker 3: I can't wait till your motherfucker see what's up under these clothes.

00:35:18
Speaker 4: Though.

00:35:18
Speaker 3: I'm so motherfucking fire of the bitch right now, I'm about to tell that I'm dead.

00:35:23
Speaker 4: Get ready to peel.

00:35:24
Speaker 3: Let me tell y'all something. Let me tell y'all, cotton. Cotton ain't never done nothing for a nigga from the South. I'm done with T shirts in three months. I don't even wear them, bitches, no more shirtless. I'm done.

00:35:37
Speaker 4: I'm aware of.

00:35:38
Speaker 3: Barrel pelt pussy on my right shoulder just to show a certain gratitude. That's it.

00:35:44
Speaker 1: That's it.

00:35:44
Speaker 3: That's the only That's the closest thing I'm gonna have to I'm a Russian during the winter time, no shirt on. I'm that fucking sexyst y'all, I'm on their motherfucking ass. Yes, you can use your hair. I don't have that, bro. You got the Superman curl right?

00:36:00
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:36:00
Speaker 1: Saw that ship.

00:36:01
Speaker 3: I tried to do it myself.

00:36:02
Speaker 1: It didn't work.

00:36:04
Speaker 4: You have to.

00:36:05
Speaker 5: You just have to see him go in the building and just see how it is real. Ship is unreal, and sometimes it's Loki annoying sometimes because he'll come back by me and make a little smart comment.

00:36:23
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's Loki annoying.

00:36:25
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's really y'all just get ready to watch your brother. I'm done. I'm telling y'all no kind I'm on these mother like dude, I honestly think, and it's great that I tape this show now because I think in three years I want to transcend the human form. I'm half DEMI god under this bitch right now. I'm dead serious. Sorry, Yeah, I hate. I really hate that Prince died. I got that though. I really think I'm the sexiest motherfucker in this bitch ever. Enjoy yourself.

00:36:56
Speaker 1: Hey, dismissed, I'm like stepped.

00:36:58
Speaker 3: I'm like stepping. I'm like Steph Curry. I didn't have the natural attributes that some people have.

00:37:05
Speaker 1: But I worked on it. I worked on it.

00:37:09
Speaker 3: I don't have a swaging bird the sweat. I worked on it. That's it. I just was a personal announcement really quick.

00:37:17
Speaker 5: Tell me this, What was your thoughts of the movie Center's been shot in Mississippi?

00:37:21
Speaker 3: I mean set, it wasn't It wasn't shot Mississippi. Bro. Actually, I just left Mississippi. They didn't have a theater that could house the movie. So it was a young man bro here about twenty eight years old. What's his name, Sweeten? Huh? Steve yar Bro Tyler Yar Bro. Yeah, young man from Mississippi. Bro. He got on the internet, Bro and really started talking about it, and Ryan Coogler Ryan Coogler and what is Warner and Warner Brothers. Man flew down Bro and set it up and let the whole time watch the movie. And so I flew down there. He don't, Bro. They had the tax credits and he said something really dope. He said that the studio in Louisiana was big enough because the idea was so big, he had to have a studio that can actually house you know that idea being that big man. And I really think man that like that, he's going to really really do something because he really can. And I found that his family is from Mississippi too, and so man, I'm honored.

00:38:27
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:38:28
Speaker 3: The only thing that I say, and I meanness, it's now our time, bro, to start writing our own movies and our own stories, bro, because it's cool to talk about the blues. It's cool to talk about dope and pain and all of that kind of shit. But when do we write ourselves into the future? Right, What does Mississippi look like in the future? Like I saw, a white scientist said something that was so powerful man, and nobody ever thought about this. He said that there's no way possible that super Man is white. You know why, he said, because superman power comes from the sun. White people are allergic to the sun. If Superman is really if he's a if he's a battery and his power comes from the solar system, then he would be darker than the darkest night. There's no way possible that he could be a white man. So for me is when are we gonna be gods? When are we gonna be superheroes? When are we gonna feel that way about ourselves? Have y'all ever noticed that when black people direct films? In most films, that's why I love Ryan so much, we lose in our own film shit. In a bene vision, I'm gonna get the girl, I'm gonna have sex with up, I'm gonna get all the fucking money everybody, the police ain't the police gonna Everybody gonna get it, but the black folks I'm dad serious, bro.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: Jack played blank man, didn't you.

00:39:55
Speaker 3: Y'all funniest fucked up? But like, I'm honored that he gave us that look, man, because it was crazy. I didn't see I didn't know that the story was about Mississippi till I saw the movie. And I'll say this, man, I think that every black person in America should go and see that man's movie. Like what he's doing. Even from a business perspective, y'all understand that y'all setting the precedents of how people handle us from a business perspective, think about this. I thought about this man. Y'all know how we complain about how Spotify is doing music and you know, our publishing and all that kind of stuff. The only thing we gotta do this shit is not hard. It's signed artists ourselves and just pay him the same way that y'all doing with some of the ogs. Y'all go and get the ogs and the people who should have had jobs and should have got paid. Mister Jackson. You know what I'm saying, y'all giving them an opportunity.

00:40:52
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:40:53
Speaker 3: Y'all are be in the gods of youall own reality, bro, and that's important to me. Bro, Yeah, getting real quiet. That's how fun.

00:41:06
Speaker 4: Yeerz.

00:41:06
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, talk to us about the Demi tapes and going from Cricket Letters with Kama Cosy.

00:41:16
Speaker 3: First of all, Man, Like, this is something that I didn't think about until recently. Bro. Like me and t I were one of the few artists. Bro, we made it out twice. I didn't think about that. Bro. Like people forget bro that I had a record deal when Noriega was was the hottest thing on the planet. I was signing the Penalty the same time that Noriega was. I was in Cricket Letters. Right, That's where I signed to Right, That's.

00:41:42
Speaker 2: Where get Krunk came from. Your people thought that was a HUGK song, you know, Bro, I didn't. But yeah, but Bro, I'm just proud man that that I've had the opportunity.

00:41:56
Speaker 3: Man, It's it's lonely because I know I'm a fucking genius. Bro. I know how good I am at this shit. And it's funny. Pimpsy used to tell me that shit all the time. You said, Banna, you smart, you smart man, you like it. Just take people, he said, put out two more like a pimps. Man, It's gonna take a minute for people to understand you. You smart and bro like to be able to represent Mississippi in a way, and Bro to be able to change the way I even watch man like. People didn't used to even come through Mississippi on their promo tools. And Bro, after I came out, the motherfuckers came to my city. People don't even notice that kind of shit, Bro, the things that we do for our city. And sometimes Bro, like my mom say this shit all the time. She said, being a visionary is a blessing and a curse. Your God has blessed you to see things that other people can't see, but you curse to sit in them alone. And it's actually backwards to want people to understand you, because if they under more people understand you, then the less your worth is. Do you want to be the person that creates the iPhone? Or you the person you want to be the person that does the updates? And if you the person that want to create the iPhone, motherfucker's gonna laugh at you like niggas laughed at me. Bro. Bro when I first started rapping, and I may be dating myself a little bit. Bro, they weren't even playing rap on the main radio stations. They weren't playing rap on the radio stations only on Sundays on WNPR at four o'clock. So like, Man, for me to be able to say, man that now I may, I don't know if it's still that, it's still the same. I think I'm the youngest person. I'm in between Elvis Presley and BB King and in the I'm in the Mississippi Music Hall of Fame. So to be able to say that, Man, it's a blessing.

00:43:47
Speaker 1: Bro, how do you make beats while you're homeless? Oh?

00:43:50
Speaker 3: Man, that's dope, great question. I tell kids this, Bro, Like, I went to Walmart and got a what's the thing that tread? It takes the electricity? You put it in a converter. Yeah, I went to Walmart and got a converter and built the studio of my van and bro like a lot of my homeboys didn't want to get on the road with me, dude, and so I turned that the passenger side literally into a studio.

00:44:19
Speaker 5: But I ain't I'm me personally, I'm deeper than that. I ain't talking about the equipment, talking about mentally, Like how you even keep yourself focused?

00:44:26
Speaker 1: To know you homeless. I gotta do this to you, know what I mean?

00:44:30
Speaker 3: I tell you why, because I did some research, bro, and I found out there's two types of rich people. There's rich people who become rich because they have family and their parents have influence, their parents have friends, like they can show you the way. Or you could be so fucking poor that you don't have no fucking choice. You either gonna make it or you're gonna die. So I didn't know no rich people. I didn't have to be homeless.

00:44:56
Speaker 1: Bro, we didn't hear shit.

00:44:57
Speaker 3: I didn't have to be homeless. But I knew that either I can be lower middle class and work at a bank and have a fucking boring ass life because to me, hell is working in the fucking office and doing the same fucking thing every day. Bro, I probably blow my fucking brains up. As hard as it is for us, there is not one day in any of our lives that's the same. This ship is actually like being on the fucking Gandalf or something. I'm serious, bro, Like, it's like being a fucking wizard. Every day. We create magic. Yeah, Lord of the Ring. Yeah, like, bro, we this ship is. This ship is fun, bro, Like Honestly, we at work high. I mean a lot of y'all at work high.

00:45:41
Speaker 4: But y'all faking y'all.

00:45:42
Speaker 3: Y'all can't say y'all high.

00:45:44
Speaker 4: Everybody on our staff is fine.

00:45:46
Speaker 1: Oh y'all high.

00:45:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking light up here.

00:45:49
Speaker 4: We do it as a team. That's what we think about it. Every we do everything. We do everything.

00:45:56
Speaker 1: It's just a high rainbow over there.

00:46:00
Speaker 3: Yeah everybody, But no, man, I knew that in order for me to be successful, I had to burn the bridges. Not only I not only burned the bridges, I burned the boats.

00:46:10
Speaker 1: Doug.

00:46:10
Speaker 3: I was SGA president at Southern Bro. They said I was one of the best SGA presidents in history ever, Bro, Like I could have I could have done that corporate shit.

00:46:19
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:46:19
Speaker 4: I was a.

00:46:19
Speaker 3: Semester in the thesis. I'm I'm a semester in the thesis. Away from my master's degree. I had a three point nine nine eight seven. An accelerated masters.

00:46:28
Speaker 4: Program is like a paper.

00:46:30
Speaker 3: So yeah, I've always been intelligent, always bro. When I was in when I was in the third grade, I read on a junior in college level. I could count to a million.

00:46:41
Speaker 5: That's funny, because I knew that right, you're looking at everything.

00:46:45
Speaker 3: It's like, what look at my brother?

00:46:48
Speaker 1: You know what?

00:46:48
Speaker 3: The thesis is right? And so for me and so for me it was just it was just like I had to burn the bridges, man, and I had to get out there man, and it was crazy man.

00:46:58
Speaker 1: Like.

00:46:59
Speaker 3: I went back to the streets twice, bro, Like I made it out and then I went back and created it my own company. Huh. Just twice, yeah, just twice.

00:47:09
Speaker 5: Just twice, Okay, okay, just twice.

00:47:15
Speaker 3: I'm different than these other negroes. I'm not proud of that ship, Bro. I'm a I'm sort of embarrassed some of the ship that I did. Like we talked about outside, I'm not happy about that ship. Ain't nothing cute about that ship at all. Bro. You know, I'm just happy that we are able to talk about it now we do it.

00:47:32
Speaker 5: Tell me this, with the record business being so shady, how did how did you learn it and navigate through it being independent?

00:47:40
Speaker 3: I didn't know. Eric Abadu taught me this like in some cases, and you know, I'm a man of knowledge. I never say that ignorance is cool. But like, B, I really thought that ship was real, Bro, I really thought that that like I looked at hip hop. My little homeboy man who just got out the streets. He used to tell me that shit O the time. He said, Man, this rap shit hurt you, like it's a girl or something. Bro Like, I really love the rap. Bro, I really thought that shit was real. Motherfuckers don't care nothing about us. Bro. You know, Pimp taught me that, Bro, like, we got to care for us. I got this theory, man, that the story of Jesus, the story of Jesus isn't about a man coming down bearing a cross for you. I believe the story of Jesus is about a man coming down to show you how to bear your own cross. So like hip hop, hip hop ain't fair hip hop being pay attention to us until the Bay Area in Texas showed us how to be independent, how to make our own record companies. They only cared about Southern hip hop because we were making more money than they were. As a whole, we didn't look at ourselves. Imagine little Flip Thugger, David Banner, Ludicris Pastor, Troy E forty two, short master p. Imagine how many to you a South Park Mexicans? How much money we were making as a conglomerate. Bro. So what they did is they signed all of us, got us all out of the way, and then motherfuckers fell off.

00:49:10
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:49:11
Speaker 3: But together we were putting the dent in that shit, y'all. And we didn't have the We didn't have the foresight to see what they did and then watch this, watch this, this fuck your head up. Then we learned how to get mom and pop stores. We had a Southwest distribution, we had Gonzales, we had our own distribution companies. They sucked the distribution companies up, bought the distribution companies, sick the fans on the main DJs and the mom and pop stores. Then they sucked the mom and pop stores up, then closed the Virgin Mega store. Right when we had learned, Bro, I had just got to the point where I was getting nine dollars a fucking album. Dog. If I would have sold one more album, Bro, and then negroes wan to stream, I'm about to get nine dollars and you tell me now, I'm getting a fraction of a peny shit. Bro, This shit, Bro, it's actually genius. Racism, Bro, and imperialism is actually genius. Me and Scott was talking about this in the back. If you take away the fact that they fucking over us, the shit is actually genius, Bro, and they got us happy about streaming. Man that shit so fucking stupid, you know. But what I will say bro again, Bro, like, all we have to do is be successful, Bro, and then we can change the shit for these kids, because think about what they have successfully done. There is now one generation of children that have never bought anything, so it's hard to convince them to give you nine dollars an album for something that they have always gotten for free. And then we're giving our money to tech companies, not even people who care about us, who care about me. We even know who we are. Bro. It's funny. I'm about to be I'm about to go meet with the dude from Spotify. But the real truth is, Bro, from a business perspective, you my enemy. And it's hard Bro when it's just one of us, Bro that shits so fucking lonely dog, when God has blessed you with the information to know better, Bro, and niggas look at you like you crazy or like you wet. And then sometimes because we're in flesh, sometimes you start tripping, like damn, am I fucked up. You know who knows? Who knows?

00:51:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, another drake, What does a what does an early David Banner production package look like? What do you mean like earlier in the day, Like when you go to produce an album, make an album for somebody all beat?

00:51:47
Speaker 1: How does that look like? You show up to the studio?

00:51:49
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I get you. Honestly true story. I was one of the few producers similar to many Fresh and Jazzy Faber. I would make the beat in front of them that I'm talking about because I never I knew how it felt bro At first, I couldn't afford beats, and then when I hustled up enough money to buy beats, nigros will never give me the beats I heard on the album. Like, dog, I'm a fan of you, How are you gonna give me this bullshit? I want the ship that was on your album.

00:52:15
Speaker 4: You made you made your everything?

00:52:17
Speaker 1: No, no, no, who made that everything?

00:52:21
Speaker 3: I did? I get Well, that's clear up something I thought you made that. No people thought I did international players too, that was that was juicy Jay, and I didn't do that. To this day, people I said, I did not do that. I appreciate you a lot of people that gave me money thinking I did it. I tell him, like, bro, I didn't do it, but I still want your money.

00:52:38
Speaker 5: You have done record for Bough, You have done records for Buny pim right.

00:52:42
Speaker 3: I've done records for Pimp. I never did stuff for you, GJ. I was actually slated to do a lot of pimpsy like big album and the independent album that he was gonna do. Yeah, what drew.

00:52:55
Speaker 1: You to transition from rapping to getting more behind the production, the producer's side of music.

00:53:02
Speaker 3: I never Honestly, people don't notice. I never wanted to be a producer. I just couldn't afford beats, and I come to find out I don't. Most people don't notice that shit. Yeah, most people don't know this though. But the person or that is my father isn't my blood father. He raised me from when I was three, I found out that my biological pop father played twelve instruments. I've never been classically trained in music ever, maybe except the drums. But and so that shows you that God has a purpose.

00:53:36
Speaker 1: Right.

00:53:36
Speaker 3: One time, I really wanted to do something to my biological father. I was gonna find him when I was eight months he threatened my life. I mean, he jumped on my mom and threatened my life, and I always wanted to see him be like what that looks like now. But I realized, Man, maybe his only purpose in the universe was to give me musical talent, and he did that. He dumped that all. You know what I'm saying. In music, man, As much as I can complain about it, every time my life goes bad, music is always the thing that brings me back. So you know, just I'm grated. That's the one thing that I can say. I'm a good actor, and I honestly work at that shit. I go to acting school, been going to acting school for twenty years. Really, I have to work at that, bro, really really hard bro music. That drum machine. Bro, I'm serious, Bro. On a good day, I don't think too many people can fuck with me on the drum machine program and an actual drum machine. I could do that shit with my eyes closed in the dark, you know what I'm saying. So it's just what I It's just what I've always done, bro, and I'm great at it.

00:54:41
Speaker 1: Man.

00:54:41
Speaker 3: I'm actually he produced my next album with that money he got.

00:54:46
Speaker 1: He got that.

00:54:48
Speaker 5: Shit, sweety what's that alcohol? It was alcohol this time, that was water. Last time I would like one.

00:54:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine. I used to that to the DJ.

00:55:00
Speaker 1: Now we to get yours too, because you're trying to run this time.

00:55:04
Speaker 4: Cheers to DV being in the building to his But no, I.

00:55:10
Speaker 3: Am. I'm one of the executive producers of Jill Scott. Somebody got a hold in the lip and I'm enjoying that.

00:55:17
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:55:17
Speaker 3: That woman.

00:55:18
Speaker 5: We can't talk about her in front of me. Everybody knows how I feel about Jill Scott. We're not gonna do that. I've DMed her and told her and guess what she told me what? I am so flattered in another lifetime. Damn wow, she with that Eric. I love Erica too. With Jim, I told her I had to. I had to tell her physically how I felt it.

00:55:36
Speaker 3: And that motherfucker's so talented, bro, Like I learned so much.

00:55:41
Speaker 4: Hey, Jill, I'll get the next session.

00:55:47
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a word mouthpiece so you don't fight you.

00:55:49
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. That motherfucker, she's man, She's I tell you all the story, bro. I was in the studio working on a record, bro, and she was just over there writing and when a person is vibing, bro, let them do what they do. And I went and looked over her shoulder and it was only two or three words on the paper. So she would do this and then put a word, and then go down and put a word. And I was like, baby, I don't want to fuck up your vibe, but like, what are you doing? And she said, better, the words are in the paper, I just have to find them. So she would stop the music and then go back and fill in the words.

00:56:28
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:56:30
Speaker 3: It was the most magical shit I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen and I will say this, Bro, Jill Scott is the only BRO. And I've produced hundreds of people in my life. Jill Scott is the most efficient person I've ever worked with. She don't go in the studio on vibe. She don't go in the studio and drink and get high and shit.

00:56:49
Speaker 1: Bro.

00:56:49
Speaker 3: Work eighty percent of the time. Eighty I'm not boyshitting. She in the booth eighty percent of the time we're in the studio. She said, I don't come here to write, I come here to execute. You don't go You don't go on game day and start doing new ship. People don't understand most people, Like I remember Magic talking about like that half court shot. He practiced that ship every day of his life, so when he would hit that ship in half court, people thought it was magic. It wasn't no fucking magic. You work on that ship. That woman worked so fucking hard, bro, and she's so fucking dope, and she do everything. Bro. She wrapped poetry, everything, Bro. She told she told me something that made me feel really good too. She said, I want to show the world how dope you actually fucking not, because they really don't know it. Ain't nobody really ever took up for me like that. Brobody else's working well, I know we talked about a name that I asked you about in Fristyll.

00:57:45
Speaker 4: I was like, you know who you should be, you should start doing stuff for you showed me your fine. Who else you're working with?

00:57:51
Speaker 3: Oh Man, Andre, Bro, I've been I've been shooting Andre beats bro over ten years. Bro. This is what I This is my thing about music, and I'm gonna be totally transparent with you all. My patience for music is gone. Like I'm just being honest with you, bro, Like I really only work with people that I care about in kids, kids that wont to learn. Like like I talk about this and I'm serious, But the last time I produced for t I, he didn't pay me. I didn't want this money. I just wanted me and him to get back in the studio, GiB because anytime me and him in the studio make money, money happened, just like him and too him and to getting in the studio, It's gonna happen. And whenever we get back to doing it for the right reasons, the money chases us. Bro. I just wanted.

00:58:49
Speaker 1: You know.

00:58:49
Speaker 3: I didn't know this, bro. A lot of people didn't know. I did tip drill for Nelly. I did that too. I got that boy in trouble. That whole credit card ship my.

00:58:58
Speaker 1: Fault that shit was.

00:59:01
Speaker 3: He said that shit was five. That was college time, crazy thing that people don't know about. I wasn't even at the video, like I was only at the video fifteen minutes. Most people didn't know that that was actually a remix to EI. So he told me he was shooting the EI remix. I don't know what the fuck that is this new tip drill and man, I got to the motherfucking video, bro, and Benny booone.

00:59:23
Speaker 1: Was my homie in Atlanta.

00:59:25
Speaker 3: It was in Atlanta, and I was like, bro, just put me in different places and shoot me and then edit me in the video. Bro, I know what I had missed. Bro, I missed the number one video all time that I produced. And it wasn't even really that.

00:59:37
Speaker 1: It was that.

00:59:38
Speaker 4: Huh here was that?

00:59:39
Speaker 1: Like?

00:59:39
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't remember.

00:59:42
Speaker 1: Was it the two thousand?

00:59:43
Speaker 3: Ye? Now it had to be two thousands because I didn't come out to two thousand and two, so that had to be two thousand and four, two thousand and five.

00:59:49
Speaker 1: O five doing five shout oh fire. When Outcast said the South has something to say? What did that mean to you and me?

00:59:59
Speaker 3: And everything to me?

01:00:00
Speaker 4: Everybody? Yep, you showed right say it.

01:00:02
Speaker 3: And men everything to me, Man.

01:00:04
Speaker 4: Everybody's TV like this, Matt.

01:00:09
Speaker 1: Obviously when that happened. I mean, this put some content. There was a lot of shit going on with the East and West Coast at that.

01:00:14
Speaker 4: Time, and we always overlooked. You know, when he said.

01:00:18
Speaker 1: It, it it rained true because so much talent, but it wasn't necessarily focused on that. Bro.

01:00:23
Speaker 3: People still really don't I don't think the South is going to get its proper look until we own our own shit.

01:00:30
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:00:31
Speaker 3: It's like what we do is we make a lot of other people money until you can cut the check yourself and I have to run and beg somebody else.

01:00:39
Speaker 1: Bro, check got your name on the signature line in the end, the line.

01:00:44
Speaker 3: I give you a great example when I did play Bro, I told Colin Park but I said, I may not have the money that you used to getting paid for a beat, but I got my check book right now. I get ten thousand right now, like right this minute. And it was funny because that was actually supposed to be eight forty beat, but I had the money right then. Man here running that I didn't know that was supposed to be in forties until after because he told me. But like, Bro, like it's crazy, man, because we still really don't have that South movie. Like if you really think about one of the reasons why the West Coast is so powerful, because at the same time when Snoop and dra came out, what else was happening. It's a society Like yeah, Bro, yeah, we never had that proper depiction of the South.

01:01:29
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:01:29
Speaker 3: That comes from us, you know what I'm saying, man, So like for me. And that's one thing that I hope to do with a banner vision, Bro, is just to give honest depictions. It don't even have to be positive. People always think when it's me because of the spiritual mindset that I'm in, Like nah, I just want it to be real and honest. That's the only thing that we can ask for. Bro. All we need in culture is balanced. That's it.

01:01:53
Speaker 1: What roles do strip clubs play in Southern hip hop? Everything? You see his face when I asked them everything, everything.

01:02:01
Speaker 3: Therapy, money, linery.

01:02:04
Speaker 4: Now I'm just joking.

01:02:07
Speaker 3: No, honestly, Bro, The strip club for us was always Jazzy Faye taught me this, Bro, that's.

01:02:12
Speaker 5: The Southern golf course. You know y'all make y'all deals on the golf. That was our spot. That's the Southern golf course. Dazzy Fading helped so many make all ideas and means the ship that be at the strip clubs in the South, it don't be at the golf course.

01:02:25
Speaker 3: So watch this, Bro, Jazzy Faye did something so genius. Bro, we would be in the studio working right. I'm used to putting my head down just grind out night like calm down, calm down. It's like, let's take a rest. He bounced down the n P three. Let's take it to the strip club and see if the ship really works in real time. So you hear it in the studio, you watch us, see if the girls react to it. That's how I knew that like a pimp wasn't hit DJ will Bro, I'll never forget.

01:02:58
Speaker 5: And that became the bluepens for every rapper in the South. Popping in the strip club.

01:03:03
Speaker 3: You gotta hit, yeah, and you ain't gotta ask nobody. You can't fluff that, bro. Yeah.

01:03:11
Speaker 1: If the strip was like it and they getting it played in there, your shit is at work. Hit.

01:03:16
Speaker 3: You ain't got a beg nobody, Bro. And so what we end up doing is okay, you watch it in the studio. Okay, we can slow it out. We can speed it up in real fucking time.

01:03:25
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:03:25
Speaker 3: That's what the strip club was for us, man. And then the other thing was bro it was also a gathering place that was neutral and safe because pussy has a way to start violence and end violence, you know what I'm saying. And so Bro, and that's one thing brother, I have to say, man, and I'm serious about this that I'm so grateful to Atlanta for Atlanta Bro was one of the few places I've ever been to, BRO where they didn't mind you coming there and getting money. You know, people always trip on while everybody running to Atlanta, Bro, because if you started treating people in your town the way that Atlanta treated people, BRO, you would go there too. And so, Man, the Strip club was just a place for us to congregate, man and talk about the really shit in the world.

01:04:11
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:04:12
Speaker 3: It was so dope man. Good food, yeah, some of the best food in the world. I remember I told kros onon that Bro, me and karas One was building on hip hop and I asked him. I was like, what's the definition of hip hop? And he told me and he was like, well, the real truth is probably do eat chicken in the club, in the fucking strip club. That's just the truth. My home boys are adult dealers, That's just the fucking truth. Shre. So hip hop may not be the same, but that doesn't mean that it's not hip hop. I do have a Cadillac with twenty two's I do. That happened for fucking real. So it's just that you know that our hip hop is just different than our experience. And that's one of my few criticisms about music.

01:04:56
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:04:57
Speaker 3: I want West Coast to be West Coast. I won't oft to be South so we can talk about our experience and enjoy each other. Bro. You know, bro Like I heard Perico, Bro, it felt so good to hear him be so fucking West Coast. You don't even know how much of a fan I am. My home boy Sally putting me on a bro. That was the reason why Life Grisel di so much. They sounded so fucking East Coast. You know what I'm saying, So like for me, bro, Like, it's not about judging each other, It's about loving each other for exactly who we are. You know what I'm saying.

01:05:39
Speaker 1: The current climate of Southern Rap right now, obviously with the you know, the YSL trial and going down and the violence, and still with the talent the future, and there's a lot of talents still, what do you think that the current state of Southern Rap is.

01:05:54
Speaker 4: Welcome home, Welcome home.

01:05:57
Speaker 3: I think it's beautiful.

01:05:58
Speaker 1: Man.

01:05:59
Speaker 3: Honestly, what we don't understand, bro, is that we are all different, and what we can't do is do the same thing our parents did to us. Think about it every generation. It happens in basketball. I say this, bro, and I hope y'all feel me on this. Bro. Like most people, I really believe if you're gonna have a goat conversation, that we should all sit down in the room enough of us and say what are the goidelines? Let's say what the godelines are? Because most people are just emotional about who that they who they love when they was a child, really, but they really don't have no Is it about championships? Is it about influence? Is it about what is it really about?

01:06:35
Speaker 5: That's the only two things, I mean three things peers, influence and championship.

01:06:40
Speaker 3: So if we're going to say that, we have to I believe in any debate we have to agree on something before we disagree. What do we agree on? So we'll have a baseline if it's If it's not, then it's emotional. The reason why people don't really want to get godelines because then it may not be none of the people that we like, you know what I'm saying, Because then we can go to those Boston teams, Bro, we can go to those early LA teams that people don't ever talk about Bro. So for me in the South, Bro, it's just really man about realizing that we all have different perspective. Our perspectives are different. These kids getting information from all around the world everywhere, the pressure that is on them, it's different, Bro, Their brains move in a different way. So for me, BRO, it's really just about and think about it. Let's just really be honest because people my age won't, they won't admit this. Everybody from my generation wasn't fucking dope. There was a lot of whack ass niggas that was Yeah, So bro, like, just sit back and listen to the music and if you don't like it, shut the fuck up. And what most people won't do, if you really don't like it and make better music, then you can't do that. You can't do that. Everybody want to have a motherfucking opinion about shit that they can't do, you know what I'm saying.

01:07:57
Speaker 1: So, like, Bro, that was the criteria to talk ship. A lot of people will be able to say nothing. Yeah, that's they only hate what they can't be You you had that credentials to speak on something. She would be quiet. I'm gonna give you some Southern names. Tell me the first memory or story that may come to mind. Pimps, Trim damn Bro, rest in peace.

01:08:23
Speaker 3: I wanted to be upbeat. I wanted to be upbeat man.

01:08:26
Speaker 1: But now give a summary. We got some other people. It's gonna get your beat.

01:08:30
Speaker 3: But but Pimp call me and I didn't pick up the phone, and then he died. And then I went back and listened to the voice. Man lax, gonna pick me up. You know you can't help. But they because one thing, one thing about me and Pimp that I don't talk about much. Pimp never talked bullshit with me ever.

01:08:55
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:08:55
Speaker 3: We never talked about women, We never talked about drugs. It was always the next level. And Pimp was really about to do some amazing shit, Like if you really go back and listen to that last UGK album, they were shifting. Bro. Pimp just told me, it's gonna take me a little bit longer, Banner, because like Bro, I got on from real niggas, bitches and hustlers and dope dealers Banner, so that I have to slowly take them along with me. Nip was the same way. He understood that there was a certain culture that he had. He couldn't walk off and leave, Bro. And so for me, Bro, thinking about that day, Bro, is it stay on my mind? And I just got to the point about three years ago. Well, I can't blame myself for that. I can't, you know, it just it just happened. But what I will say, man, is that something that I know most people won't talk about. Pimp was one of the funniest motherfuckers on Earth, Earth when I tell you, Earth, when I tell you, but he all, he would always say.

01:10:00
Speaker 1: Truly funny dude, and him, I'm talking about what I try.

01:10:02
Speaker 3: And man, he would always say, better don't let these niggas know you, though, he said, because if they really know you, you have to hurt them. Because people take being kind and fuck being funny. It takes that as a weakness where we from and you end up literally having to take the motherfucker off this earth. But Pimp was so fucking him and fucking three six Mafia, like you wouldn't believe how kind of one the same too, but not a joke, not a joke at all, nothing that lasted, but naturally funny and naturally good people.

01:10:35
Speaker 5: And when Pim died, I'm on the way to his mom's funeralom Bun called me, oh wow on the way from the Bay to San Francisco, right to San Francisco, right Sacramento. I'm from the Bay of Sacramento driving up and pimp called me. I mean Bun called me on the phone while he was driving his mom field.

01:10:54
Speaker 1: Bro, I crazy day and I remember that like yesterday.

01:10:58
Speaker 3: Very batter things and zachermano.

01:11:03
Speaker 1: That could be anything. Wayne, Oh, Wayne, all right, just dropped the Carter six. He's still in Sacramento right now.

01:11:10
Speaker 3: That's okay, Wayne, Wayne told me the most admirable. I got so many stories, Wayne, I tell you.

01:11:17
Speaker 1: Wayne.

01:11:18
Speaker 3: So when I did La La Lala actually from the car to three was actually for Shrek three and I was working on that and Wayne was. Wayne is one of the few people man where he loves music so much. Wayne. If you go back and listen to a lot of the freestyles that people like, some of those were my beats. Wayne was really a fan of me musically as an artist, Bro, And that felt good. Wayne was smoker blunt. This is the craziest shit. Put his head in the big ass cone of the speaker. Y'all know how shit that how loud that shit is put his head in the speaker, smoke a whole blunt and say, play all your beats. I wanna hear all of them. And I would play every beat, and I got hundreds of thousands of beats.

01:12:07
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:12:07
Speaker 3: He said, play all the motherfuckers that's on your laptop. But Wayne heard la la, and he said, who that for a banner? I said, I was for Shrek. Wayne said, fuck Shrenk. You know what, what?

01:12:26
Speaker 4: Fuck Shank?

01:12:27
Speaker 3: And that's how that ti oh man Ti I is a hard one, bro, because through every iteration of my career, we've been tied together. And he's one of the few people, bro that I really honestly think give a fuck about me. I don't really think most people care. They say that they're cold, but most people really don't. Man, all right, I'll tell y'alle, this is a quick one. I know this ain't the normal one, but this just happened. So me and me and Tip working on some music, and so we go outside and there's a slight little ruckus outside and then I see Tip, you know, getting in it, and so, shit, nigga, what I look at Tip? I said, brother, you all right? He looked back at me and say shit, are you all right? I was like, all right, bro, and took my ass home. But I tell you Tip, I talked to Tip and Tip. I told Tip Man that he literally changed my life with this.

01:13:36
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:13:37
Speaker 3: I didn't like the way that hip hop handled him, you know, over the last situation. And you know, he lost his movie deals and lost a lot of money, bro, And black folks think just because we have money, it don't really matter what happened to us, and that shit ain't cool. And so I talked about it when I was on Nori in them show, but I felt bad at it. It took me so long to say anything about it. So I told him, man, like I apologize, bro, that it took so long. He was like, better fuck that shit. He was like, Bro, you know the folks trying to give me thirty years, the fuck about the rest of that shit, Bro, I'm free And I never thought about it like that.

01:14:17
Speaker 1: Man.

01:14:17
Speaker 3: Sometimes we get so caught into all of this shit, and it's a blessing that we just alive from the where the fuck we frying? Bro, Just to be breathing sometimes, Bro, when we pray, we always praying for something and not thanking God for our vision. But the ability to steal walk Bro, for you to know and have a healthy relationship with your children, Bro, you know what I'm saying, for us to just be able to exist. Do you know how many motherfuckers got swallowed? Bro, No, literally got swallowed, like you know they mom or dad could have shows. Yeah, Boosy Boosy, Oh Man Boosy. To me, there's three people that you can't deny their effect on. When they came out, Little Boosy, g Z and Master p. There was something else, Bro, when they came out a lot of us, it took us a minute to sort of bubble and we sort of had like the motherfuckers spread like like wildfire. And yeah, Bro like Boosy Bro was such a people from other places don't understand like how hot that motherfucker.

01:15:40
Speaker 1: Was was but still at this a still has a cult.

01:15:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they made man what and and and the thing was Bro that Boosy and what's crazy. Pimp had been talking to me about Boosy before anybody knew who he was. Web like Pimp Son and Bro like man to even see the father that he's become Bro and the fact that he's not afraid like Bro. People don't listen to what Boosy actually has to say. Booseye reminds me sometimes of Kevin Samuels, Bro, Like if you take the emotions away from what they're saying, Bro, he's saying some shit that y'all really really need to listen to. Bro. And I'm just proud of him, man, of his growth because Boosie didn't give a fuck. I went to school in ben Ruge, man Ruge and Jackson, Mississippi are very similar. That's places where motherfuckers come to college and come you know, the party, and go to LSU guns and come back in the fucking casket. Like Boosey ain't no motherfucking joke, Bro. So for him to become the businessman that he is, to become entertainer the father that he is man. And one thing that I'm happy about Boocy is similar to you, Bro. I see Boosy at them fucking Atlanta Hawk's.

01:16:59
Speaker 4: Game having the time is life.

01:17:00
Speaker 3: That motherfucker having the best time in his life. And he said it when he had that same situation, Like, Bro, when I got out of prison, he was like, fuck that, I'm gonna have fun. Bro. Think about how blessed we are Bro, I did not enjoy my career, bro, ask Scott. I just started smiling. I didn't have fun though. I was so serious, bro, and I was so scared of fucking it up, Like I hailed the ball manny and I didn't even bounce the motherfucker.

01:17:26
Speaker 1: You missed the journey. Journey is the best part.

01:17:28
Speaker 3: But it ain't over with. To tell his motherfucker's mouth out good.

01:17:31
Speaker 4: What transition to acting?

01:17:34
Speaker 1: Acting?

01:17:34
Speaker 5: You started rapping a lot about how movie movie business money is different.

01:17:39
Speaker 1: Talk about that.

01:17:40
Speaker 3: The cool thing about it about movies is that if you get the project, the money is there. You know what I'm saying. I'm so used to Okay, you gotta I'm doing a.

01:17:49
Speaker 4: Rod for free next week.

01:17:51
Speaker 5: Really getting my reps up so you can't so I can have an acting career so for you, so you can't say I don't have one yet.

01:17:55
Speaker 3: Bro, All we gotta all we got no no, no, I'm serious, B All we gotta do is make our own ship. I'm down with that too, yeah, Bro, Because this is the one thing, bro, that I do hate about my peers.

01:18:06
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:18:07
Speaker 3: We spend money on cars. We spend money on all of this high price, high price clothes. I believe in spending money on me. Like everybody talk about investing, investing with investing your own ship. Look at what y'all to build, bro. For believing in yourself. Bro, then you ain't got to worry about auditioning. All you got to do is go to acting school and make sure that you got your reps up, bro. But then make it shoot your own ship. Fuck waiting waiting on them? Man, never come to say.

01:18:34
Speaker 1: I told I'm shooting my own document. And we're not talking about that that uh, small porn. We're talking about like real feature.

01:18:40
Speaker 3: Hilarious.

01:18:41
Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't auditioned for porn yet. You ain't have to. I haven't this district for yet.

01:18:46
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. No, man, but I'll tell you this.

01:18:52
Speaker 5: I just go along with the jokes now because I know they come from anywhere I don't.

01:18:55
Speaker 3: I don't talk about this much, bro, But I actually based my my acting career off ice Cube. It makes sense that a lot of people don't know that man, Like people didn't see him as an A list star. He saw himself and he made it bro. And then what he did was he was so successful with Friday they couldn't come to him with no bullshit because he had the numbers. Where white people fuck us up a lot of times they talk strictly business. We're spiritual people and we talk about how dope shit is and they don't give a fuck about that. How many asses can you put in the seat where Ice Cube showed them? I can put ninety two million asses in the seat. So if you ain't paying me at least half of that, get the fuck on. You know what I'm saying, And so like, bro Like, that's why I created a banner vision. A banner vision comes from cute vision and a five call quest. It's a banner vision and so man like for me, bro Like, they don't see us as superheroes, but I do. And the thing is, Bro, all our asks is people work on their craft man as hard as they possibly can. Bro. At least a deck the actor, Bro, I mean the comedian Bro is one of my really tight homies, Broe. And at least Ad taught me something, Bro, And I really believe y'all to a feel this Bro. He changed my life, he said, Banner Bro, I don't fuck with these niggas, he said, And they don't fuck with me, and I started wondering, like, Bro, why don't fit in? Don't I don't fuck with nobody but with threats?

01:20:28
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:20:29
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one thing, bro, with all of this AI ship, and one thing you can't fake. It's authenticity and realness.

01:20:35
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:20:36
Speaker 3: That's why they're scared of you too. And then the fact that you ain't just talking you can do something too, and with some big old niggros Bro.

01:20:45
Speaker 4: A lot of frustrations building.

01:20:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what we all gonna do, Bro, is create our own situation, collect our fans, bro, and now all we have to start doing is as a banner vision grows what y'all doing. We just gotta fuck with each other, have fun.

01:21:00
Speaker 4: Bro, at least dig to that. My boy.

01:21:02
Speaker 1: He always telling the team, Man, we ain't got to reinvent the wheel. There's a lot of the motherfuckers out here doing it.

01:21:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've been successful in every medium of art. What are the trades needed to succeed in the project, regardless of the medium dealing? That's too many big words and one question for that.

01:21:19
Speaker 3: But I was actually really dope. But you did a good job.

01:21:22
Speaker 1: But I don't know on the inside and the inside I was mad in the inside.

01:21:25
Speaker 4: I was struggling.

01:21:28
Speaker 3: I read I read it.

01:21:29
Speaker 4: I didn't start doing nothing.

01:21:30
Speaker 3: Don't don't let the editor try, but listen to this. I'm serious, Bro, you don't broke there. Other people judged that ship. I used to do that ship as an actor, and I was starting. You know I can handle That's why he did it. You know you did a great I was thoroughly impressed.

01:21:49
Speaker 5: I'm impressing out me get myself.

01:21:54
Speaker 3: I said a whole bunch of big words in one sentence and didn't suck it up.

01:21:57
Speaker 4: Man, I'm growing.

01:21:58
Speaker 3: I was saying sears to that. I would say, because I would say consistency, Bro, like one thing that I don't want these kids to know where you gotta practice. You gotta fucking practice.

01:22:08
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:22:10
Speaker 3: Again, Bro, I tell people that that's the reason why I love stuff so much. Bro, It's because from if you think about nature and nurture. Bro. He didn't have it, Bro, like he was short, had bad ankles. Bro. Come from a small college. He had to bust his fucking ass, Bro and get them fucking rep see in every fucking day still to this fucking day.

01:22:32
Speaker 4: Bro.

01:22:33
Speaker 3: And that's how I had to be from Mississippi. Bro, I had to bust my fucking ass, and kids don't understand how hard broke. I've been in acting school. A lot of people don't know this. Bro. When my homeboys was buying chains and cars and shit. Bro, a lot of my money went to for flights coming to LA. I came to LA every fucking week. Now, if I knew what I knew now, I should have bought an apartment out here for the amount of money. But I didn't have nobody to teach me that I was flying to LA going to acting school. I've been in acting school. It's like a pimp, bro. Really, yeah, I'm not fucking I'm not playing bro because I didn't. I didn't want people to say. I didn't want people say I got it just because I was a rapper. I didn't want people to say. And then I take this series man, and I know I shouldn't, but Bro, I know how hard people work every day just to be an actor. So if I'm gonna take your spot, BRO, I want to be able to look in your eyes say, Nigga, I'm just better than earned it, and I look better. They already know that when they look at me, but like I want them to know that I'm better.

01:23:34
Speaker 4: Quick hitters.

01:23:35
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us know one album with no skips that you're listening.

01:23:40
Speaker 3: Did you listen to uh ill matic?

01:23:44
Speaker 4: Childhood Crush?

01:23:46
Speaker 3: Childhood Crush? What's the dark skinned black girl from Dead Presidents that came out to trash?

01:23:52
Speaker 1: Shoot? Oh my god, good call, good call.

01:23:59
Speaker 3: Y'all got.

01:24:03
Speaker 1: Right, y'all got lotions? Top five producers in your opinion?

01:24:10
Speaker 3: Top five producers. Oh that's a hard one, bro. That's a hard one for me because as a Southerner, I know that Southern producers don't get their light.

01:24:19
Speaker 1: But if I'm being like, honest, let's go top five Southern producers, then.

01:24:24
Speaker 3: No, We'll keep the question because that gives me an opportunity to put my folks over that fields awesome. I would say Dungeon Family as a whole. I would say Neptunes, not just for real Neptunes together. Yeah, when they were doing that crazy synthetic.

01:24:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.

01:24:49
Speaker 3: I see. That's hard, bro, because there's no way that you can't say doctor Dre, no way in hell that I can't gotta you gotta say that. But I naturally want to say battle Cap. You know what I'm saying like I want because I'm a hip hop historian, Bro, and then I want to say, just blade, you know what I'm saying. Timberland, you have to say you know? But then for me, for me, you can't. You cannot say Kelsey and beats by the Pound just because of the influence. And he changed music, He changed the way people literally put out music.

01:25:35
Speaker 4: Bro.

01:25:36
Speaker 3: Then then how can you dare not say many Fresh? He was alone? Bro? People don't get see. People are not used to people articulate enough to be able to express why they feel the way that they feel.

01:25:48
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:25:49
Speaker 3: He did that ship alone. Do you know how hard it is? Bro? In the environments that he had to record, You don't talk about that ship Bro? Literally, Bro, when I went to do the Car to three and this don't had nothing to do with with with Manny, but it has to do with the situation.

01:26:10
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:26:10
Speaker 3: What was the I forgot the studio.

01:26:13
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:26:13
Speaker 3: They took over in Miami, but they took over the whole studio, Bro, and Nigros was standing outside on the third and second floor, Bro, like literally outside on the on the windows. I never it took over the whole fucking studio.

01:26:29
Speaker 1: Bro.

01:26:30
Speaker 3: People don't know the ship that we go through studio you talking about, Yeah, but those are my those are those are summer my. It's my favorite. Shout out to bun Bee and this verse on murder. I want to say that I think that's.

01:26:46
Speaker 1: One of the most will It's bun Bee bitch and I'm the king of moving chickens.

01:26:49
Speaker 5: Got the finger lickings my pocket sticky.

01:26:52
Speaker 4: I'm sicking, nick when I'll be clicking.

01:26:55
Speaker 1: Now, take a look at the bigges Nigga my liquor swigger playing.

01:26:57
Speaker 5: Hey that this nigga figure might half trigger give her one of your shaken quick niggas niggast then the.

01:27:04
Speaker 1: River huh yeah, yeah that I like. All Right, Okay, one actor you wish too, you could work with one actors. Here's to you, oh Man actress, act actress.

01:27:19
Speaker 3: Oh Man. Michael B. Jordan's an Iris album.

01:27:24
Speaker 1: I like that.

01:27:25
Speaker 3: The reason is because I know both of them, and I like, I like a second I haven't worked with Michael B. Jordan, but I like a second run at it now that I am who I am a little more seasoned. Yep, yeah yeah yeah, so you're pulling it together yep yeah yeah yeah, And it's crazy, bro we talking about basketball. We most of us used to play basketball at the twenty four hour Fitness or sub sat and Vine, okay and subseat and Vine, And like Michael B. Jordan's Chris Brown, Corey Halk Pooch Hall, like all of us used to while we were waiting for auditions, you know what I'm saying.

01:28:13
Speaker 1: And so.

01:28:15
Speaker 3: To be able to see him rise and do what he's doing now, and especially with the stuff that he's doing with Coogler bro I would love to to to be a part of.

01:28:23
Speaker 5: That right in that if you could see one guest on our show, who would it be?

01:28:27
Speaker 1: But you have to help us get your answer on the show.

01:28:31
Speaker 3: One person that I would like, have y'all had, have y'all had Chris on here yet? Chris Brown?

01:28:39
Speaker 4: No good? Let me tell you.

01:28:41
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why.

01:28:42
Speaker 5: I believe that's a good that's a good one for one of the reasons later look the ladies like, please don't do that, Please don't do that.

01:28:48
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why, but go ahead. I think that one of the reasons why I created one of my shows was because of what they did to Chris. You know, he never really got an opportunity to be in a space where he can articulate hisself and the shit that he went through, because they are parts of his story that I know about for sure, but it's his place, the place to talk about another man shit, Bro. But I love for him to be in the space where I know he's protected and I know y'all would protect it, and it would give him an opportunity to speak. Chris Brown is literally one of the most talented people, if I'm not the most val person I've ever worked with in my whole entire life. And I really think that Bro just always needed more men around him. Not niggas, not male, but Bro, he just needed more men. And the type of men that you all are, y'all don't need nothing from him. Y'all are the type of being that I want to see my little brother around. And he's one of the few people in this game that I ever really cared about, you know what I'm saying. And I've watched him be railroaded, and something that people don't talk about that I'm going to say on this show, it's Chris Brown. Never Ever, he could have condemned a lot of people. He never threw nobody. Yeah, yeah, ever, he could have thrown a lot of niggas under the bus, and he never did kept his mouth shut.

01:30:21
Speaker 1: Well, see if you heard that from your big brother. So we're gonna make sure we cut.

01:30:27
Speaker 4: Well, Dave Man.

01:30:27
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, and obviously before we get you out of here. I mean, it's been a pleasure to see just again where you came from, for your music and what you've evolved into. And I think every day, whatever our journey is, we're trying to get better. But you've always been one of those rare positive influences and speaking for the culture, always putting other people first. But it's just refreshing to hear people like you speak. I was excited about the interview just because I think you speak so much life, and I think that's very important in today's day and age, because we're surrounded by so much negativity. Man, So thank you for your time. Continue blessings if you if you got an extra role for Jack on any kind of movie set at Banner Vision, let him know he's really manager.

01:31:10
Speaker 4: He'd be joking, but he really nobody want to see any way more than him. Bro, Man, don't take the jokes. I know y'all see joke. On me all the time.

01:31:16
Speaker 1: Nobody want to know only jokeuse I love him. It's like when the coach yells at you because he loves you. You don't anyway, man, that's a rap. David Banner all the Smoke. You can catch us on all the Smoke productions, YouTube and the DraftKings Network.

01:31:28
Speaker 4: Feel so.

01:31:32
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm

01:31:48
Speaker 1: Mm hmm