Club 520 - Master P & Chris Johnson on CRAZY Jimmy Butler story, AAU & NIL

The volume. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, NYC. What's happening? Yeah, yeah, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:14.960 I'm sorry. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.040 You know team got home court the NYC. You know 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:19.440 what I'm saying. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.599 That's off the books of the show Man first Seas. First, 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:23.919 we appreciate y'all pulling up. Shout out to my god 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.960 Marcus having this few of our culture. We appreciate y'all. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.560 Man Club five twenty Man, I'm the host. My name 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.199 is DJ Wells. I got my game with me to 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.559 my far for our left, my dog Bi should be 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:35.639 hearing out the pearles. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:36.800 How you what nasty? 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:37.800 Cool and nasty? 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:38.800 What's up in New York? 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.520 You know the vibe to a right that back home here? 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.239 But show still to my right, my dog young not 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.040 yo your tea? How you are brother man? I'm cooling, man, 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.279 I'm happy to be here. It's a good vibe in here. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.560 Already we can be ourselves. So that's all I needed 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.640 to hear. Oh yeah, he already set the tone. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:57.880 Man. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.400 Listen, man, we're gonna have some great guests today. Let's 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.040 start it off right man. We got two of basketball 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.600 spinders joining us on the stage right now. We got 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:09.440 from the Legends Basketball Survived, My man, Chris and last 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.279 a certain lot at least one of the best talent 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:13.800 evaluators in basketball. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.440 Coach P Paul j N already appreciate y'all. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:21.400 Come on up, y'all, show ups a love, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.000 Hey showing the DJ some love, My boy going crazy 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:30.720 with the segments. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.759 Tap me me in for showing show ups a love. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.480 Listen, man, it's a lot of basketball up here. But 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.640 first things first, you know what I'm saying. We love 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.320 having a good storytime here at Club five twenty for 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.759 coach P and T. Y'all got a connection from way 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.160 back man letting people know about it. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.080 Oh he told me today, Yeah, you worked. He knew 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.240 my father. So I'll let you explain the first and 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:54.280 that I could comment about it. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.760 So when I was grew up in Boston and I 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.200 used to attend practice is at Boston University when Rick Patino, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.720 you're Saint John's coach, was the head coach. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.600 Let's hear it for Rick and Saint John's yeah on 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.200 top of the Johnny love. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.200 Yeah, uh no. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:17.040 It is. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.280 So I'm a young college player trying to walk on 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.800 Division three and I'd go to all the practices in Boston. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:28.320 So I went to Boston University watched Patino practice. Jeff's dad, 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.200 Shaun Tigue, was there. He was one tough son. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:32.560 Of a bitch. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.800 I can say that, right, Marcus, say anything I want, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.480 Coach Am I right though, your dad tough, hard nose player. 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.800 I don't know he was. He was sad to me, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.120 but I'll let you go. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.400 That's not what I saw him practice. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.239 Now, so you telling me that and he gonna watch 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.160 this show and you giving him all that love. Now, 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.600 I'm not to hear that for the rest of my 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.960 life that he was a good player, and every day I. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:01.760 Was telling me so. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.600 So he's a og man. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.519 Don't say that now you got og title. It's crazy 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:07.880 for sure. Ben. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.520 Listen, what my favorite things about basketball? And you got 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.359 a lot of vantage points. A lot of people are 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.160 play a part in people being successful. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.359 One of the best traders around, Chris Man. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.359 Please tell the people how you got started and say 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.000 helping people get to the next level. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.640 I mean, first of all, shout out to Marcus, my guy. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.320 I met Marcus at USA basketball. Okay, so I had 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.880 a couple of players on the USA team and I 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.440 met him with Tobias Harris. So Tobias and him are 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.480 really good friends. And I've been a part of Harris's 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.520 family for a while. And we met gambling with me 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:40.840 and him and Russell Westbrook. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.600 So we were. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.720 We were gambling and me and Marcus was looking like, hey, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:53.760 double down on zero. We was telling Russ the next 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.160 one they hit with zero, which payout is like thirty 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:01.040 three to one, and nobody on it. But that's how 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.480 I'm at Marcus and you being in a basketball space. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.880 It's all about community and it's all about you know, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.840 the youth, the ground, the grassroot, and it's all about 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.400 you know, it's a small circle. And I went from 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.440 being a player and understanding like what my true craft is. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.560 So my true craft is not hooping. My true craft 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.240 is developing people and really taking it into like a 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:33.880 science of like understanding, like mental mental health, mental wellness, 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.479 like understanding moves, you know, looking at people and being 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.720 able to identify not just what their skill set is, 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.880 but who they really are. So basketball for me has 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:48.359 been great, and to be around the world, to be 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.480 able to touch people around the world through basketball, it's just. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.240 Been a great vehicle. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.479 Most definitely, one thing I like about you Chris, is 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.359 the fact that you said off the court is just 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.000 as important as on the court, and coach, you can 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.520 contest it. Is you evaluate talent, you have to evaluate 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.640 the person as well. Do you keep that in your 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.440 mind where you go through rankings and stuff like that. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.240 It's like on court, but off the court is just 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:07.880 as an important. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.960 Absolutely. I put a big emphasis on traits, not just talent. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.760 There's a lot of talent out there, but talent doesn't 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.960 develop without traits. I believe that your your traits can 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.640 protect your talent and it can grow your talent. A 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.840 lot of talented guys with red flags. That's why they 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.280 don't make it in the basketball space and sometimes they 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.520 don't make it in the professional space. So character, to 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.800 me is huge. Every high school player I have a 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.799 chance to talk to, I tell them three things. Focus 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:42.320 on character, academics, and talent. I tell them to chase 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.640 the cat. That's the acronym. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.960 So far as there's a hell of an acronym, coach 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.120 that might get you in trouble too. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:52.960 Wow. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.680 So far as the talent side of it, though, how 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.240 you go about like ranking a player? 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:01.880 What are the steps? 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:03.480 Well? 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.000 I coach for a long time so I have that. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.960 Hopefully I have the experience right and background and seeing 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.560 the players at the highest level of college. I coach 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.000 at Ohio State, Boston College, so I know what the 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.520 high major looks like. Been a head coach at Wright 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.640 State mid major, and I was an assistant with Rick 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.640 Majeris at Saint Louis University then he passed away. So 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.200 for twenty two years I've been in the college game 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.880 as a head coach or an assistant. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:30.080 So I look at. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.800 Different categories that are important to the game talent wise. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:38.159 First athleticism. You have to see who has the athleticism, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.960 who has the measurables skill level, who can impact the 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.760 game without scoring for me? And I know for Chris 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.920 basketball IQ is missing in the game and it's needed. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.479 And I look for kids that understand what they're doing 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.520 and why they're doing it. Quick story on that. Talk 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.440 to an NBA assistant coach just this year and he said, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.040 half our team doesn't know where to go on the court. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.000 They don't know when I say cut, they don't understand 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.040 when I say screen, they don't know how This is 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:15.000 a high level NBA assistant. So basketball IQ is another factor. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:21.240 And then I put the traits competitiveness, coachability, body language, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.320 and being a caring teammate. Those are my top four. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.520 Because you had Jeff rank so low high school. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:29.560 So I just wanted to. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.080 I'm gonna get I checked that before I came. Yeah 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.640 about that, okay, all right, well here's the disclaimer. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.280 I wasn't doing it then. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:40.440 I was coaching to. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.760 Say, Louis when you come out of high school, So 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.040 blame the guy before me. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.720 I need to talk to him. Was that they had met. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.960 Yeah, they didn't know what That's why I got the job. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:52.640 They have bad eyes. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.120 You're right. I had your brother up high. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.200 You did shouts to FoST when you moved, shout to him. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.840 Okay, yeah, thank you for that. Though you're trying to 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.160 put me in a corner. You can't put a boss 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.080 the guy in a corner in New York. Not good. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.840 But so yeah, he tried to it up for you. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.640 Paul's but listen, oh in YC. Yeah yeah, y'all know 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.080 what time it is? We playing them games? I said, 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.880 Paul's Relax, now you know what I'm saying. We only 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.520 got introduced to each other. Why is Kayane Anthony not 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:21.600 McDonald's all American. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.480 What you got to do with that? 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:27.280 I need to know. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:29.720 Committee votes. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.280 Who is the committee? 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.640 Yes, a lot of people who oh, different people. There's 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.080 a whole list of people we live in. You got 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.240 to reach out to McDonald's to get that. That that's 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.000 information that didn't want me to give out. 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:45.679 So if you reach out, they'll give it. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.000 To you McDonald's. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.440 But honestly, it's always been a vote. Look, I recruited 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.720 McDonald's All Americans. Now I'm voting for them. There's so 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.360 many great players every year, and Kayanne's a great basketball player, 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.959 especially on the offensive end, and he's a really likable kid. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.120 Not to get voted in, somebody has to get left out. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.400 There's other guys too that had great high school careers 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.040 this year. Great, I mean great. I don't throw all 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.720 compliments unless they're they're earned. They didn't make it either. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.560 Son on the West Coast. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:19.480 I think six eighty McDonald's All Americans in California. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.319 At one point it used to be like two per stake. Yeah, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:23.679 and so now yeah. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.200 They don't do that. It's not about it's the twenty 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.600 four best players in the committee's mind, based on the 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.800 criteria that they give you, which is who can be 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.199 a pro, who's dominated the game at the high school level, 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.920 and who has the greatest upside among the group. And 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.040 that gets difficult, as you know, you make a list 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.080 top one hundred, top two hundred, somebody's going to be 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.440 left off that could be deserved. Just like the NCAA tournament. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.679 We were talking about that in the back room. Yes, sir, 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.720 teams that got in maybe shouldn't have teams that didn't 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.320 make it North Carolina, Yeah okay, and then you know, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.040 other people didn't make the tournament. That's the unfortunate part 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:58.000 of making a list. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.280 Okay, I guess that was a pr answer. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.520 Respect, What would you like me to say the truth? 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:05.520 I just did. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:06.920 He didn't make it. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.240 He didn't get hold of Hey, I like him. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.199 You got to watch him. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.960 You gotta watching someone to ask you like, I'm good, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.280 I got I'm back on you next hold on, Chris. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:25.160 That's crazy, you know, you know, yeah, oh, Jeff, Jeff, 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:30.720 this wasn't in the contract. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.680 Now, Chris, I wanted to ask you, like, who was 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.520 that first player? Did you develop him in high school, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.680 college or the pros? 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:38.680 Like first? 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:39.720 Yeah? 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.199 Yeah, cool? Or even that you you might have started 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:44.600 with a pro. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.560 I heard you basically changed Jimmy Butler game round. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:49.959 Yeah. I remember him in Minnesota. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:51.800 Yeah, Jimmy. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.040 Shout out to Jimmy because getting traded a Golden State. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.440 I think they're like fifteen and two. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.560 Yeah, and okay, look at Jimmy. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:07.199 With Jimmy, Jimmy's very interesting because Jimmy does. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.240 All the things that you just mentioned. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:11.000 Right. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:12.880 He wasn't ranked in high school. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:17.000 He wasn't ranked in the city of Houston where I'm from, 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:23.400 he wasn't on the top scholarship boards. Coach Bulls Williams 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.640 gave him a scholarship going to Marquette the thirtieth pick 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:27.800 in the draft. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.760 So when he got to me, when. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:35.679 I looked at Jimmy, Jimmy has what you need to 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.840 be a pro. It really doesn't matter how you start, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:44.240 but when you pick up, you know that I got 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:48.000 to prove something. I got to go out and change 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.880 my life. I come from nothing. When I get that 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.720 type of ingredients, like a player like Jimmy, it's easy 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.120 to develop because he already had the mindset, he already 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.120 had the competition, and he already had the will and 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.760 the want to be that So I put Jimmy on 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:11.280 a five day workout, play like five workouts a day, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:12.720 like micro. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.480 I had him trained with the point guards. 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:20.040 I had him trained with two guards, the forwards and 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.920 the sentence. So when you watch him play now with 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.680 Go to State, he can play anywhere on the court. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.920 He got all the footwork. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.160 And he has the ability to make the team better. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.800 And so that journey with Jimmy was great because he 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.079 gave me an opportunity, a platform to be able to 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.960 build him and to build him into something great. And 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.079 that year people don't know Jeff when he was in Chicago, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.240 Jimmy had a contract I think about forty six million. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.880 He came to me and was like, say, bro, I'm 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.360 a decline. I was like, bro, I can't tell you 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.680 to climb forty eight million. I ain't got forty eight million. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.240 I can't tell you the decline. And he was like, no, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.479 I'm gonna get max. I put into work. I'm focused, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.199 and I don't give a fuck. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:09.200 Turned it down. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.440 And once he turned it down, at the end of 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.640 the year, he was Most Improved Player of the Year, 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:20.559 First Team All NBA NBA All Star got a picture 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.400 of us taking that picture of signing a hundred million 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.480 dollar max contract for the Chicago Bulls. And that's a 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.280 player that wasn't rained, sir, He wasn't on nobody board. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.600 It just comes from peer desire of what you want 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:36.000 to become. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:37.440 That's the fun. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.640 Now, listen, if I ain't the best advertisment to tapping 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.120 of a Christmas training on what to tell you, Well, 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:43.800 you just he just sold the ship out of me. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:44.959 I'm about to get back out of. 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:48.400 You would have took that risk? 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:53.920 Hell yeah, no, no, that would have been signed. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:01.600 I said, Chris, you're right, No, you can't. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.560 You can't take that risk because there's so many players 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.760 that have had your teammate before. 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He was part of that. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:11.600 Listen. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.040 So you called Rachel Nicholas, Yeah, he tried to. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:21.240 I'm gonna tell you Jimmy. Jimmy is a true competitive 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.080 Jimmy crazy. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:32.160 Suah hey yo aw he said. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:39.040 He said, Jimmy is the type of guy to keep receipts. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.040 Let's just start there. He ain't forgetting, he plays Domino's. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.840 He's he's ultra competitive. You know, and sometimes guys that 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:54.080 are really competitive, they just black out and they just 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.080 focus on what's that in the moment, and him going 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.080 to practice was just a build up of what was 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.760 going on in his life at that moment. And when 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.439 you have that in you where he started for nothing, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.639 playing with the third team and going after cad and 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.879 going after people, those are true stories. But he was 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.840 there to show them that he wanted to win so bad. Now, Jeff, 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.800 before you got there the year before, let's talk about this. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:24.680 After All Star. 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:30.560 Break, Jimmy tore his meniscus a euro step against the Rockets. 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:31.680 Oh no, I was there. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:32.960 Oh he was on the team. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.160 Yeah, we came the same year. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:34.680 Yep. 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:40.320 So Jimmy called me. I wish you wouldn't have He 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:41.920 should have told me he was gonna do that. Shit, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:43.800 how was State of Indiana. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.480 But exactly, But to show you the type of competitor 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:53.920 is show you that practice. Jimmy could have canceled the season. Sure, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:58.040 I told him once again, counsel the season. He looked 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.119 at me and as like Minnesota had never been in 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.119 the playoffs, like in fourteen years or something. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:03.720 He was like, I'm gonna come back. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.200 I'm gonna make us go to the playoffs, and I'm 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:10.160 gonna sacrifice my body for this team and for the organization. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.280 And we left. We went to California and we trained. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.200 He went out of surgery. We started training the next day, 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:23.480 sitting in a chair, dribbling. Four weeks later he was back, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.040 and I think he had like thirty eight thirty six. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.680 First game back was in LA I told him to 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:31.080 sit out. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:36.400 I was trying to kill they was in there that night. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:41.040 I had seen some people I wanted to something body. 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:48.000 Crazy. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:50.600 All right, man, before we get out of here, when 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.280 I ask both of you, gentlemen, keep his brief as 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.960 you can. Obviously, is there a big change of how 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.760 you go across dealing with younger athletes with the NIL effects? 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.119 Well, nil now is in the high school game. Forty 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:10.800 states allow nil and the other states will eventually doesn't 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.359 affect what I do at all. It's more so what 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:14.440 happens to the players. 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:15.359 The public school. 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.359 Public schools have lost a lot of kids going to 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.400 private schools because a lot of the public schools, and Jeff, 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.280 you could probably speak on this, being the head coach 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.199 of Pike High School, kids will leave for the private 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:31.880 schools because the NIL is more open. Each state association 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.320 makes their own rules, but at the end of the day, 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.520 the government is going to decide NIL, not state associations. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.320 But for what I do, the only thing I noticed 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.240 is when kids get NIL, I take a look to 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.000 see if their game starts to digress because of all 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.000 the distractions. I tell every kid that will listen in parent, 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:52.880 you know, your brand is not your brand. Your game 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.639 is your brand. And when they decide to have a brand, 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:58.920 to have a business to make money. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.199 We're all cool with that. 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.720 But when it affects your game or your grades, it's 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:05.800 not a good thing. So and it's a hard thing 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:10.879 to balance because adults can't balance money and game. So 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:15.959 now you have a teenager grades, school, game, money, it's 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.280 a hard balancing act. But for me, I just continue 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.400 to watch the progression of the digression of them on 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.800 the court, their talent, their impact, and then I always 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:27.159 keep an eye on their traits. 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.280 Mo Stepan, Chris want to ask you this as a 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.520 parent of a kid, it's going crazy right now. You know, 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.240 I'm saying, obviously you got the game and the knowledge, 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.240 but you see, as other teammates, how is that for 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:36.760 them to kind of adjust to this new type of 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.600 lifestyle or opportunity. You got a lot of kids, like 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.680 you said, they come from nothing. Somebody way of checking 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.439 your face. You can change your mama life today, but 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.720 that check may not last longer if you go crazy 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:47.080 later and get more money. 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.879 Yeah, as a parent, my son is going to Colorado, 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:53.560 shout out to Colorado, Big twelve, Yes sir, and he's 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.520 yeah taboid, he can play. I think it's the big 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.359 thing is building a system and community around the kids. 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:00.680 Right. 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.440 The money's always been there, so the money's not changing kids. 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.479 Social media has changed kids and the fact of like 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.159 showcasing what you actually have. So you just need to 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.080 educate kids on how to utilize the platform of social 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.000 media to be beneficial so versus them having to do 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:18.800 it themselves. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.119 Just hire a team. So it's there. So we just 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:23.720 need to educate the. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.040 Kids, the community, the system, the people around them of 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.920 how to hire people to put in place that can 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.119 manage those things for them so they can keep the 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:33.560 main thing. 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:34.160 The main thing. 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:38.920 Now, what I've learned having people kids that come from 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.760 influent houses, those are your top basketball players right now. 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.720 The people that can afford training you don't see a 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.560 lot of kids in the hood getting the right training 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.920 because they can't afford it. It's become a business now. 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.640 So like for myself, if I got a person that's 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.320 in a hood, I make enough money where I can 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.280 just say you good, I'm gonna take care of you. 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.399 I'm gonna build you from the ground up, so his 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.000 sacrifice will be different. But you find people now that 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.879 parents can afford training, their skill sets are much better. 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.480 So it's really has nothing to do with nil. It 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.320 really comes down to what's in your chest, who's around 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.280 you if you want to really play basketball, or you 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.920 want to be a celebrity or influencer, because there's three 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.000 different levels to that. So we can't box a kid 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.120 in Because I got people that parents are filthy rich 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.240 and play basketball in the NBA, as so many kids 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.600 that I have that dad played in the NBA. That's 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.040 better than a kid straight out the hood because he 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:43.280 has more opportunity to get trained and to be developed. 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.679 So that's why you looking at the NBA now, you 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.720 see a lot of kids of dads that play in 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:53.399 the NBA because they have the resources to be able 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:54.480 to get to that level. 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:58.439 But do you think it lacked passion now, because I 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.639 think when you come from nothing and you are hoping 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:02.600 the passion be a little different. 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:03.000 It does. 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:04.880 A look, it does be a little different. But then 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:06.040 I look at Steph Curry. 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.119 But then I look at Anthony Edwards. 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.640 I think we all can relate to him a little different, yeah, 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:12.440 than we can to Steph Curry. 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.919 Right, I mean, but we can relate. But when I 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.000 look at Staph, I look at Clay, I look at 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.560 some of the two parent households by in the NBA 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.800 that people don't talk about because the game of basketball, 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.840 no offense fall is a black dominated game. And so 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:34.960 when you look at that hero, no offense, but it's 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:39.000 dominated by black players, and so a lot of people 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:43.879 don't talk about two parents. They don't talk about the 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.440 two parent household, you know. And so being a two 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.959 parent household, you can produce a mentally tough kid. You 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.080 don't have to be abused to be mentally tough. 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:55.919 It's her. 0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.159 We're down on time. But I want to tell this 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:04.120 for everyone more watching whoever coaches trains parents. We talked 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.119 about social media, you talked about mental wellness. We can 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.439 talk about basketball all day long, and the biggest thing 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:15.440 that I've noticed, whether it's millennials, Generation Z and now 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.680 it's I think it's Generation Alpha. The biggest problem the 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.760 kids are experiencing is not on the court social media. 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.280 First was the Internet, now it's social media. And the 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.679 one game I tell everyone not to play is the 0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.560 comparison game. It's a never ending game. You can never 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.240 win the comparison game. And so many kids are playing 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:41.719 that comparison game. And it's a recipe for unhappiness. So 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:43.960 you don't even get to the trainer, you don't get 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.359 to the coach. You're just unhappy all the time because 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:52.280 you're constantly comparing other kids have versus what you don't have. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.280 So if I can encourage everyone to help kids not 0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:01.160 to play the comparison game, someone's always gonna be better 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.440 than you. You're gonna be better than somebody else. That's 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.960 the way life goes. But if you can keep them 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.359 focused on their own growth, their own development, they'll be 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:13.480 happier and they'll make faster progress. The comparison game is 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.280 the quickest way to fizzle out of anything, whether it's 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.680 somebody at work or somebody in sports. 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.160 I just want to get that in I well saying, coach, 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.040 I need to hear that. Hey man, we got to 0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.920 move on. Make some love for coach P and Chris 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:27.120 Johnson for show. 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:27.960 Gentlemen. 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.000 We appreciate y'all. Gonna take a quick break and we'll 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:32.679 be back at it. We get to be in the 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.360 presence of a mongul philanthropist and mostly partly right now, 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.280 President p Man. We got the one, the only master 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.440 p the build. It makes a love Master p Man. 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:45.920 Thank you Man. 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:47.920 So I honored to be in your presidence tonight, big dog. 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.480 Before we start, can I say some p Yeah, Hey, DJ, 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:53.640 can you play break. 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:54.800 A Moll's something real quick for me? 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:56.680 Yeah, we gotta send to bar exact like we ain't 0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:00.760 got they know in my house. Oh, it's like a 0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:05.680 national anthem. No no no, no, no no nothing, no no. 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.360 No, no no no, break the ball something, hold on. 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:16.880 They don got that. That's cool. Respect, respect, don't worry 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.840 about it. That's my mama. It's cool. 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.399 Oh there. 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.960 Now getting right here we go. Hey, you don't what 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:28.440 I'm saying. 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.320 I had to do this for my sister, she said. 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.399 If you don't tell him how we feel about this, 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:33.840 I ain't gonna never forget you. 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:40.240 What they say. 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:41.280 Well, you starting off. 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:48.080 Hustle ball against Captiller who I beat your neighborhood drug dealer? 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.240 You turned me out? 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.000 Seek me o me. 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.239 I'm all right right, my faull DJ, I just had 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:56.760 a shower. 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:57.560 I had a show. 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.080 Yeah, all right, the ball that's right now we locked 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.920 in up to. That's my song, man, that's my song 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.760 for sure. Listen, man, first things, farts. Congratulations on your 0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:08.680 new role. You know what I'm saying, New Orleans holding 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.360 down to president of operations. Man, tell us what inspires 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.280 you to take that role? Man, You're so successful with 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.720 everything you've ever done. What made you go on this journey? 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:16.560 Well? 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:21.680 So black athletes, right, A lot of these people don't 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:22.439 understand us. 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:23.800 They don't understand our culture. 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.560 And for me to be a coaching to be president 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.560 of operations of a major university and coming from hip 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:35.359 hop exact history, and I'm just letting God lead me 0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.240 on this journey, y'all where I come from. And this 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.680 this is big for our culture and our people because 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.760 we always talk about the negative things. 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:44.840 So think about it. 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.440 It's been twenty five years that I've been doing right, 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:49.800 and so I know that this is a way that 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:54.280 garden and I'm just taking this journey. 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:55.280 Most definitely, Tea. 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.160 Listen, you got a little bit of leneaship with Master 0:28:58.320 --> 0:28:59.920 being here, don't even though I'll let him know about 0:28:59.960 --> 0:29:03.360 it now. So remember when y'all went to ABCD camp, 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.920 you took Romeo and DeMar DeRozan. Well, I was happen 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.880 to be on the team with DeMar DeRozan, and I 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.040 was having some bright moments at that camp, and you 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.160 tapped me on my shoulder at one time and you 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.800 was like, hey man, you nice. He was like, but 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.960 it's a cat on your team right there. He was like, man, 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.440 trust him, he can play too. And you told me 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.120 drive the ball to the lane and throw it up. 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.360 I promised he'd go get it. We played the next game, 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.120 I threw it up to themar He wouldn't go get it, 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:36.680 and I ain't get the ball no more like it 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.360 became his team. It was my team for a minute. 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.400 The next thing you know, it was his team. 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.400 And so that's what I want to tell y'all. 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:47.160 Right, when you look at DeMar DeRozan, Lance Stevenson, I 0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:51.000 coached all those guys, Jailer Sus, Big, Chad Holby, and 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:59.080 my thing is those guys come from real community, places, 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.440 a property, and I think a lot of these coaches 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.240 they give up on our kids. And that's why I 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:08.160 tell any kid in college right now, right, the reason 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.000 why you want to play for me at the University 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.800 of No organ is I want nothing but dogs. 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.400 No puppies allow. And I know real talent. 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.720 But I'm also going to help these kids get to 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.760 the next level, whether it's to the NBA or even 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.480 your education is more important because I call it, we 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.760 all should be seeking wisdom and not money. 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:29.360 Right, think about it. 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:34.080 A lot of us use wisdom and as avoid and stuff. No, 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.840 you don't avoid wisdom. Wisdom is advancing. So I'm going 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.320 to show the next generation how we advance. And so 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.280 when you look at me and say, man, I grew 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:43.960 up in the cality your products, just like you was 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.880 listening to break them off, right, So if you follow 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.160 me on that journey, then you're going to follow me 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.560 on this journey showing our people how to get our money, 0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.360 how to take care of our families, how to build 0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.000 generational will. And so that's the journey I'm on right now, 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.240 educating our peace people. And so y'all give y'allself a 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.960 round of applause in here, because everybody in here we 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.840 on that mission. We want to get better. Right, y'all 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.959 know that I was able to accomplish this. I mean 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.040 I lived in the projects with my grandparents and they 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.400 had twelve kids. Me and my brother made fourteen and 0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:22.320 sixteen people in a three bedroom project. And so my 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:26.840 goals was to give my grandmother house. So that's what's 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.600 my motivation. One day, I want to give my grandmother house. 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:33.000 So you also have to have that why. And if 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.719 you had that why, you can be successful. 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.320 Most definitely with you, like you said, accomplish so many 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.800 things across the board, the discipline, the things, the foundation 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:42.840 and place have you can accomplished that. And listen, we 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.440 love basketball. We're going to talk about it. How was 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.480 that like making it to the NBA? 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.400 You know it was? It was something I think basketball 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.520 changed my life and saved my life. So I've been 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.080 with all the time, all my life. Right. 0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.640 But the thing about it is right, people didn't understand 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.320 that because I had made it a music and so 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:08.360 people forgot that this was my first love. This is 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.800 where I came from. This what took me out to ghettom. 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.520 And so I've always was putting in the work. And 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:15.960 I showed my son, my son right now, I play 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.040 for University of Houston. They're the number two team in 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.320 the country, and I showed them hard work because I 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.560 know if you stay in the gym, it's like anything 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.440 in like this, the game alike, it's not just basketball. 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:30.960 So I just used that as this what took me 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.360 out the projects. But I also used that in my business. 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:39.360 So it teach you dedication, It teach you consistency because 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:40.680 it's all about consistency. 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:41.680 So think about it. 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.960 I wouldn't be here where I'm at if I didn't 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.480 put the work in. And so basketball gave me that. 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.640 And so you know, think about it. We all sitting 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.480 up here. But you're gonna get older. You can't play 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.200 basketball forever. You can't do what you used to do 0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:55.400 on a basketball court. 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.200 You can't do that, right, hold on, you can't do that. 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.320 I know I was rolling with you, bro. 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.160 You can't do what you used to do back you 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:10.280 want tie him up because you won't play See that, 0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.840 y'all see how you know that's what they do too. 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.280 That's why it's a mental thing, right you like to 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.840 start thinking that you could do what you used to 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.840 do back in the days. And you know, I mean, 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.040 look at Michael Jordan, and that's why that's why we're 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:31.120 having this conversation. Product always talent, So think about the 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.600 product gonna be around when we're not around. And so 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.240 when you look at it, the reason why Michael Jordan 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.680 is still so successful because of those shoes. Take nobody 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.400 you still wearing them now? Fact, and he ain't even 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.000 playing no more. And if you ask Michael Jordan that 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:46.080 same thing, he'll possit. 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:46.280 Man. 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:50.200 Now, I owe y'all can do it. You can't. It's 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:51.360 called for all the time. 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:51.640 Right. 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.239 I'm only thirty six, brother, that's old and basketball. 0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:58.720 Repect. 0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:13.480 Huh in basketball? When I was playing with what the honeys, yeah, 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.440 I mean, my music is what got me out. The 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:16.680 leader wasn't basketball. 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.799 So the GM was listening to the ice Cream Man, 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.040 and I'm like, man, what you where you get that room? 0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.200 So I knew, y'all I was done. 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.960 So I walked in there and sit down. This older 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.440 white man by bass. He not here, no no more, 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.120 but he sent me down. He said, man, your music 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:40.400 is pure field damn. And it's a Bible built state, 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.759 and your music is pure of phild. He said, I 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.960 love your basketball. You tough because he seen me and 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.200 Anti Mason get into it. So he said, why you're 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.040 not scared of Anti Mason man? And the Mason was 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.799 a tough dude on the basketball court, like for real. 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.520 He let when I got to the gym, man that 0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.279 Mason said, I'm from New York, give me the ball. 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.839 I'm like, damn, big dog, for I just got in there. 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.920 I just got in there, man, And so what I 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:08.680 like about it? 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:09.000 Right? 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:15.000 I had filed Anti Mason right, and he was like, man, rookie, 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:16.800 when I get in the back, I'm about to whoop you. 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.800 So I'm thinking to myself, damn them over like sixteen. 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:23.560 I was like, oh right, I got to get back 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.799 to that locker room first, right, So I got back 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:26.799 to the locker room first. 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:27.440 I was ready. 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.080 You said, nah, big dog, I like you. We end 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.840 up being friends. But in the GM couldn't understand that. 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.919 He said, to your music, pill Field, and you ain't 0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.520 afraid of and the Mason. 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:49.319 Man. We decided to go another director. Man. 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.880 They changed the colds on the So think about it, 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.000 y'all right, By the time I left, I had left. 0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.279 Something in there. My cold wasn't working no more. 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.799 I had to call a security So that's why I said, right, 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.880 we have to start thinking about being entrepreneurs, because you know, 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.759 we get locked out of situations when it's when it's 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.560 over for us. And UH had nothing to do with basketball. 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:15.040 I was going hard every night. I mean, they had 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.600 some great players on that team. BJ Armstrong to tell me, 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.080 slow down, you're asking this story when you see them, 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:22.120 and I was. 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.800 I was out running everybody. B Jones said, Man, we 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.000 got eighty two games while you're running so fast. I 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.919 was so used to running from the police. This wasn't 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:34.239 nothing for me. This was nothing. I'm and I'm thinking, man, 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.080 I'm on this team. 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.440 Y'all ever played one on one at practice? 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:38.520 I guess who? 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:38.800 Like? 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.839 I'm just anybody like we always used to play ones 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:42.000 that practice. Anybody play one? 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:42.760 And what everybody? 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:43.320 Who you be? 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:44.600 Man? 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.640 Come on, dog, I was you acting like I am 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.840 from the project. I just told you I grew up 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.680 in the project with people. 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.719 Know what I'm saying. You played bj On, you beat everybody. 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:58.160 Step Curry that. 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.560 His dad was on the teah about the ones with 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:01.319 dal turn up. 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:02.040 Yeah he was. 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.080 He was, man, you know what, you had to file 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:05.480 deal back in the way. I know. 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.399 That's why steps so good too. When he touched the bottle, 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:09.760 I'm slapping. 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:11.839 Shoot too good? He shoot too good. 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.279 Now you can shoot though. I ain't gonna lie you 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.560 guys jump. I've been watching you, man. I learned how 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.400 to shoot in the project with no lights. 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:20.359 Damn. 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.839 Imagine when the lights come on. I'm like, man, look 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:28.640 at that light right here here. I ain't gonna get 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.560 no shooting contest with you. I've seen you too. Yeah, 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.960 but it's definitely. One thing I like about you is 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.239 that everything is always based on family. And like we 0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:37.960 already talked about this, were in the age when we 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.000 saw them shows on TV. You know what I'm saying. 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.320 Everybody remember these shows on Nikkoloine. You remember the movies 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.560 Uncle Pee, come on tap In. I don't know, we're 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.960 too old, but I remember that. The dope part about it. 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.240 You have the Martin Rosen. You have to bring the gens. 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.280 They get to see that type of life as an influence. 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.000 What's that being able to pull your family up as 0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:55.839 you excel as well? 0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:56.640 Yeah? 0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.520 No, I mean I'm greatful and thankful. I just talked 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.120 to Brandon Jennis the other day and I was like, Brandon, 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.080 what what made you make it? He said, coach pe 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.359 because I am. I'm like, and I'm coach Pete for real, right, 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.759 I start thinking, because you know it don't hit you 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.680 till you get older. And he was like, you know 0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.200 you you believed in me when nobody didn't believe in me, 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.200 and then you showed me stuff because you already had 0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.400 the mansions, you had the nice cars, all this stuff. 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.400 He said, that made me go harder. And so I 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.480 do the same thing with my family, with my kids. 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.880 Right So I didn't give my son. He's one of 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.040 the top players in cal he's the number one player 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.120 in California, and he's a freshman at Houston right now. 0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.280 He didn't get a car till he got to Houston. 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.160 So I start realizing, right that you got to start 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.400 make people, making people work for what they want. And 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:48.240 I think with this generation, we give these kids everything 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.120 they want, even if you look at it right now, 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:51.920 we got to stop that and you just got to 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.640 start being real parents and make them appreciate everything that 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:56.400 you give me. 0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:10.080 I said, bar for sure, listen where do you see? 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:15.640 Yeah? 0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.480 So oh for us in New Orleans, what I see right? 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.200 And I know a lot of people talk about what 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.680 went on before I got there. I just got there. 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.400 So we're gonna be way better than I mean we 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:33.600 was last year. But I'm giving kids second chances that 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.879 I know that deserve it, that then changed their lives. 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.200 Thinking about it, like, none of us are perfect. All 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.600 of us then did something that we could hide from 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.320 or go and act like or whatever. But think about it, 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.239 how do you get to the league if nobody really 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.160 pulled you to the side and believe in you. So 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.640 I told you I coached Lance Stevenson right, So y'all 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.080 know Lance Stevenson out. 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.720 Here in New York. He was wilding out at. 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.200 First, and so I was able to see the good 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.520 in him and showed him the value like man, slow down, 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:06.960 and me and his dad built a good relationship. So 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.719 it's also what I'm gonna do is build relationships with 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.600 these parents. At the same time, it's all about holding accountability. 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.640 But my thing is asking them what do they really 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.600 want out of this? So you got to know what 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:19.080 you want? 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:19.839 Do you really want? 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.239 Because I had to change my parents couldn't change me. 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:24.640 You know, once you get on that school campus, you 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.239 could go wild out, sir, And I had to start 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.239 policing myself. I had to start saying that I want 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.400 somebody of life. And so I'm gonna show these kids 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.960 everything that I've been through. I got a brother dead, 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.800 I got a brother incarcerated, right, so it's nothing you 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.000 can fool me with. But I got real love. These 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.360 kids are part of my family. And so when you 0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.200 use that word family, that we're gonna be able to 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.399 know each other even after life, after basketball and still 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.239 keeping those relationships. How many of these other coaches do 0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.719 that with us, because once it's over, they don't care 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.080 about us no more think about it. And that's what 0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.799 I'm gonna be able to give the kids that come 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.879 into my program. Like I mean, I'm looking out here, 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.279 I want some of the top kids in New York. 0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.239 Were able to give them the same nil deals that 0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.640 we could that they could get from any other universe. 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.920 And so I think that's gonna be the good thing 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.800 about it. But I want them to know this is 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:19.000 about getting the education, because once that nil money run out, 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.680 what you're gonna do. So I'm gonna teach them how 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.959 to invest some of that money, you know, and don't 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.120 just take this money in your personal name. They don't 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.040 teach you our activites that so go get your LLC, 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.880 Go get you an incorporate a business, so now you 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.400 could write some of that off instead of just taking 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.280 that money. Even though we call it name and likeness, 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.360 you know, but we're saying, now take this money and 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.520 investors in something. So when them four years come, you 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.480 got your money. The triple double quatjup. 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:48.759 And so they're not gonna teach us that just won't 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.759 give us the money and hopefully that if we don't 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:53.439 win for them, then we go back to the hood. 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.480 And I want to change that most definitely. 0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:58.560 So yeah, clap it up. That was the bar right 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.880 there for surest. 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.840 Think about to write everybody up here, how many coaches 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.840 still keep in touch with you, Let's be honest, like 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.400 me and all my players were still in contact. 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:12.480 Yeah, I don't see. 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:17.040 I definitely talked to them about cause I talked to 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.960 I talked to Mike Blueholt. That's the NBA though like 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.920 college and high school my AU coach, I still talk 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:24.239 to him. 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:25.880 But other than that college now. 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.320 See, to think about it, because all they doing is 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.480 bring one player in then once it's over. 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:33.920 They looking for the next best player. 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.040 Yes the fact, but we see like, because you you 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.840 coach a bunch of NBA players, you man, you one 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.600 of the most influential people ever. When we see a 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.480 lot of people at New Orleans like kind of like 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:46.920 Coach Prime did in Colorado. 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:48.760 Man, let me tell y'all something. 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.360 I model what I'm doing after Coach Prime because he 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:55.440 the go yes sir, and uh, to be able to 0:42:55.600 --> 0:43:00.239 celebrate a black man that did something historical. Let me 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.200 know that I could do it in basketball what he's 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.520 done in football. And so you're gonna see, you're gonna 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.879 see everybody at our games, but you're gonna you're gonna 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.600 get a great game because these the players that I 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.759 bring in there, the goal is to get them to 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:17.239 the NBA and to create more testimonies and so more 0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.880 players that we get into the NBA, that's when we 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.680 get more students to the to the university and uh, 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.319 we bring enrollment up. 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.400 And so that's the page I'm on. 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.200 Like, so the basketball part is one thing, but for me, 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.440 it's the education and that's that's about changing lives and 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:35.040 saving lives. 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.239 I feel like this is my most important job, to 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:37.879 be a server. 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.680 So yeah, I got to shout out Coach prime Man 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.080 because he paid the way and I'm just about to 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.560 kick the dough down, especially coming from hip hop. Think 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.520 about you think they want to give me this job 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:48.600 coming from hip hop? 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:48.920 Nah? 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.360 So that means I had to be doing right a 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.680 long time for sure, because they put me under the 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:59.160 microscope right like, and it's hard to do. So I 0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.120 had to have a degree, I had to have a 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.480 good record. So all these things that I want to 0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:06.880 show our culture that we could leave the past behind 0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:08.840 and we could grow up and get better, they do it. 0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:12.160 They got tattoos under their suits. They done been in 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:16.120 trouble before, let's be honest. But they give a second 0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.399 chance at changing their lives. That's why I said, I'm 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.719 looking for dogs. I'm looking for players that they done 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.440 gave up on, and we're gonna have We're gonna have 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:27.759 an opportunity if you really about changing growth. And I'm 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.239 gonna show them these diamonds and the ruffs that they 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.680 forgot about. Like all they needed was a chance, and 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.800 that's all I need. I'm gonna live in testimony, that 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.200 if you put your trust in faith and go, you 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:39.200 could actually go to. 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:39.959 The next level. 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.080 Most definitely make some letters. 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:44.000 To that with a bar there. 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.960 Now, I gotta ask, obviously, you in in many markets 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:48.200 and dominated just about everything. 0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.439 You did get into the snack world. 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.760 We all love rap snacks, man, how is that transition 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.000 going from rap music to making chips? 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.759 You know what, nobody believed in rap snack me and 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.319 used to go to all these different places and tell 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:07.080 people about it. But it's all about the flavor and 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.400 think about it. We understand what flavor is and our 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.400 people we eat chips. You know, we got the hunting buns. Now, 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.080 we've been eating this stuff a long time, but we 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:20.080 don't think that we can create this stuff. So there's 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.200 been a journey for over twenty five years. I know 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:25.160 a lot of people think that it's a success story overnight. 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.800 It took us twenty five years. So how many people 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.480 willing to be in business that long? In the staying business, 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:37.560 the sustainability, So when nobody believed that you could put 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.880 all this that looked like us on packages and bags, 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.000 we did and that's what changed the game. 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:45.880 Both definitely, you like. 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:50.320 My community people, I grew up around you like a superhero. 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:54.759 You did everything. You played basketball in the NBA, you ride, 0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:58.320 you act, everything that a black person wanted to do. 0:45:58.600 --> 0:45:59.080 You did. 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:01.319 I had that straight up. 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:06.200 We all dream of be a TV movie who, right, Well, 0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.000 what's that feeling like? Like you kind of just when 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.120 you can't feel like you don't you don't You probably 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.239 don't feel that way. We like, Bro, you an icon 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.520 of us, So it's a little different for us how 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:16.200 that feel for you. 0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.400 So to be honest, y'all, I'm more. 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:28.360 Thankful like it don't really, it don't really touch me 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:32.680 like that because I know where I come from, and 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.640 I know that I had a lot of close calls 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.239 in life, and if God didn't spare my life, I 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.160 wouldn't be here with y'all right now. And I'm all 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:46.640 about helping our community in our culture, you know me 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.080 and one of my guys was laughing the other day, right. So, 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:53.600 in California got a program called Urban Born and Nipsey 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.560 Hustle was in our program in the eighth grade. And 0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:00.759 so it's all about helping people will look like us, 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:05.200 knowing that you are important. So I'm looking at life 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.520 thinking God like man, you spared my life because I 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.520 had a lot of close calls, and I'm thankful and 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.359 grateful that I could be here with y'all and show 0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:14.839 y'all that we can change and grow. 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.760 Because a lot of people they think that we gotta 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:19.160 be tough, we gotta be real. 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:19.920 What is that. 0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:24.040 I never wanted to be tough in all this. I've 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.279 always just wanted to survive. I want to be better. 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:28.400 And I tell people all the time that. 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:31.080 We invest. 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:36.320 Five, ten twenty of the life in going to prison. 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.600 Why can't we invest four years to go to college 0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.520 or to create a business or brand. And so I'm 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.480 a living testimony that if you do that, then you 0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:48.239 can live a legit life. Because think about it, if 0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.279 we do all this negative stuff. And so when I 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.160 start making these movies, I'll invest my own money into it. 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.800 I want to show us that if you believe in yourself, put. 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.160 Your money into what you believe in, because you're going 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.440 to get the make a piece of the pie. But 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.880 when you running around and you want to be pampered, 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:05.279 that mean you don't want to put the work in. 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:07.640 So all those things that you talk about, what I've done, 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:11.920 I never been pampered I've always get out and put 0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.359 the work in and then I get my bigger piece 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.920 of the pie because I made the biggest investment in myself. 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.799 And so when you look in that mirror, I want 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.400 you try to look in that mirror and say, what 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.120 am I doing? How can I get to the next level? 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.200 Am I spending my twenty four hours wisely? Think about 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.960 because most of us turning up. If you turning up 0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.120 twenty four hours, then you're not gonna beat me. Not 0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.879 gonna beat me at nothing I'm doing. And I think 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:39.160 that that's what's my motivation is. And I know a 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.200 lot of people say, pe, you did this, this and this, 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.560 But I love what I'm doing, So I don't see 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.520 it as like, oh, you're doing all these different things. 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:47.760 No, they all go together. 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.879 Like think about like you say, every athlete in the hood, 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:57.680 they love music, they love movies, they gonna love products. 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.880 And all these different things. And I just like this, 0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:01.000 that's what we do anyway. 0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.200 And I just said that, you know, when I stopped 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.880 saying that I wanted to be a boss and I 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.000 wanted to be a leader. It's two different things. Because 0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.319 a boss just he controlled everything. Being a leader, you're 0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.560 gonna create more leaders. And so when I got to 0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:18.319 that point in my life, I feel like that's when 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:20.680 God spared my life and saved my life. Say hey, 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:23.719 you know, you can lead the people and the ones 0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:25.520 that want to listen, because think about where we come from, 0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:26.919 a lot of us don't want to listen. 0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:28.600 That's why I told you I got a brother. 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.080 Then I got a brother incarcerated, because that's all about 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:32.240 that one word listening. 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:33.840 So you got to be able to listen. 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:34.840 You know. 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.640 They say a wise man learned, but a fool never will. 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.000 And I learned from not only other people mistakes, but 0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.440 I also look at my life and say, Okay, if 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:46.000 I go that way, I'm gonna be good. 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.320 But if I go this way with all my homeboys 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:49.520 and I'm going to prison. 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.680 I stopped getting in the car and wanting to go 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:54.960 to jail with my homeboys and saying, man, look, I'm 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:56.120 investing my education. 0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:59.319 I think that was the only thing that changed my life. 0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:00.080 And that's why I keep. 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.560 Telling y'all, wisdom is the most important thing that we 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:05.879 could have. Just thinking about most of us to pray 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.640 for money, man, Lord, I need to pay my bills. 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:11.840 Help me, No man, if you get the wisdom, the 0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.640 money gonna come. And that's what's been happening for me 0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:15.479 my whole life. 0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:23.560 And one thing I want to applause you on getting 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.160 back to the music. Obviously you are success in it, 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.960 but the way that you ran your record label needs 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:32.000 to be applauded. If you look everywhere from the marketing aspect, 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:33.239 and we talked about some of the best people to 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:35.640 market your names needs to be on that list. Everybody 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.719 here know a no limit cover when you see it, 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:40.880 marketing genius. 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:44.560 The quality you know, tap in. The quality was. 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:46.640 There, The marketing was there, and you was a well 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.520 oiled machine. You look at so many people who have 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.080 so many sad stories of music. You was an independent 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:53.920 I won't like you talk about the boss of leader, 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.080 but you was a real boss in the music industry. 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:58.560 When you came to that realization, what was like to say, 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.640 all right, I see where everybody else is, but I'm 0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:02.439 doing this way different and way better. 0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:03.319 Yeah. 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:05.840 So when I first got into music business, you know, 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.080 every business I created, I find a problem. 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:10.320 So I found the problem. 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.760 None of us was making money in the music industry, 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.360 and a lot of us were superstars. We was on 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.480 all these billboards. We was on all these records, but 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.960 we wasn't making no real money. And when you look 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:27.120 at the deals, was like us making seven percent, twelve percent. 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:32.759 The biggest percentage in music was Michael Jackson. He was 0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.840 making twenty two percent of record and I said, I 0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:36.719 need to change that. 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:37.920 And so. 0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:41.719 And then I started making my own covers. I came 0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:43.560 to New York. So when I first did about it 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.719 bout it, I came to New York, I went through 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:52.359 every hood out here, and people was like, man, that's 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:54.160 you on that post. I said, nah, man, I'm from 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:54.640 New Orleans. 0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:55.439 We all look alike. 0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.960 But I came out here y'all and put my own 0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:02.920 posters up because think about it. You know, back then 0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:04.640 you will pay somebody to put your stuff, but you 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.359 we don't have social media back then, they might throw 0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:09.200 it in the garbage cab. 0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:11.680 I came up. I was my own street team. 0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.320 And so when people start seeing and then when the girls, 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:17.960 you know, I sounded different. So I got this big 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:22.000 dunky gold chained on right, and the girls, I'll be talking, Yeah, 0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:23.920 what's up baby, how you doing. She's like, I like 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.200 the way you talk. I'm gonna listen to your music 0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:29.600 because nobody knew who I was. And and just being 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:33.239 able to communicate and network with the people people that 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.279 look like because even though I sounded different and and 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.400 but New York really gravitated to me. 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:39.200 That's when I knew. 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:42.440 I was like, man, I think I'm gonna make it 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.200 in this business because I come all the way from 0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:47.200 the South and they started messing with about it, about it, 0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.120 and uh and and I and I tell the DJs 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.120 and I tell the people in the community out here. 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:55.920 I appreciate that because this was the first spot that 0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.759 really outside where I came from, because I was in 0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:00.480 the Bay Area and I was in the Orleans. But 0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:03.480 to actually see some a whole different culture, because you know, 0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:06.600 music started him. So I felt like I needed to 0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.080 come here, go in these clubs and test the waters. 0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:13.120 How can I get New York to like my music? 0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.240 And when I got New York to like my music, 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:21.360 I mean the rest was history because they jumped around 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:23.520 in the clubs, and you know, that's what my music was. 0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.920 It was like, you know, it was all like that 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:30.640 military jump around, get you up and listen party. And 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.239 so now I appreciate you guys. I just always wanted 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.279 to say thank you New York for believing in me. 0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:43.040 We go. 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.840 And I want to tell y'all, right, so I know 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.160 y'all see me in the music side of the business 0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:01.600 making music, but as a young person, I also got 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:05.360 into investing into other artists, and so that's when I 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:08.719 took on doing concerts and shows. I was able to 0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:13.680 do the fifty cent first tour and invest into other artists, 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:15.800 and so I think that was the part that started 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:19.920 taking my business to the next level. Then I Snoop 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:23.160 Dogg and you know, all these incredible artists that I 0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.800 was able to sign and help their careers and jumpstart 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.200 their careers, and it's been a blessing man. 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.719 Because I feel like when you help other people get 0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:33.480 to where you're go and go to keep blessing you 0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:34.600 most definitely. 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.399 Now you talk about being able to get Snoop Dogg, 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.120 is there an artist that you almost had as you 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:38.680 wish you got. 0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:42.480 I think. 0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.760 Indy I Re I didn't know like that type of music, 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.480 so she used to come to my house and sing 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:51.920 and I was just like, I just don't want to 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:56.840 mess up your career. And uh, I think that was 0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:58.680 the one that got away that I just could have 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.560 just I didn't know, because y'all know that what I'm saying. 0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:05.200 That's why I say education is so important. Right, I'm 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.759 only into the hip hop and I'm just like, man, 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:09.960 I got this diamond in a roof right here, and 0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:11.080 I wanted to I'm like. 0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.560 How much you need to do this? But I didn't 0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:17.200 know personally how to do like an R and B tour. 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:19.759 So I told her that, and I think that was 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.719 That's probably the one artist that I feel like that 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:23.560 I really couldn't. 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.200 Let me tell you right now, if you got any 0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:29.719 R on a no lipit cover, shit would have been crazy. 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:36.000 I am not my here, but. 0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:38.439 That's what I'm But that's what I'm saying about being 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:42.080 about being since it I truly didn't know what to do, 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:45.560 but like, I've never done that type of music, and 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.680 so I think that God has blessed her too on 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.040 her journey because I feel like I probably would have 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:50.560 stopped her. 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:53.919 Yeah, that's real. 0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:58.520 That's definitely real, because I would never thought India I 0:55:58.920 --> 0:55:59.200 would be. 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:01.560 Yeah, I was to that. 0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.480 That kind of threw me off, man, But that's how 0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:06.520 influential you being. I mean, people just want to be 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.600 around you. Like we said, I know the show about 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.520 the end or whatever, but we just really appreciate you 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:11.960 even taking time to sit with us. 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.120 I won't to tell y'all I'm not finished. 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.200 So if you follow me on my music journey, follow 0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:20.120 me on this journey with the University of New Orleans, 0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:25.440 changing lives, saving lives, helping our future athletes and student 0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:26.120 at least. 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.360 Get to where they need to go at because we 0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:29.120 give up. 0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:31.840 On us, and I'm not gonna give up on us. 0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:36.239 I'm gonna give our culture the blueprint. And I want 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.799 y'all to know that. Everybody think they got a lot 0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:44.080 of time, but Junior Bridgeman played basketball. He died the 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:46.520 other day, right me and him to sit down and 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.560 talk about all the things that we was gonna do. 0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:50.960 I want us not to sit down and do that. 0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:54.319 I want us to move, make moves. Don't wait till 0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:58.120 it's too late. And if you have an idea, bring 0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:01.800 it to light, because the most treasures are in the 0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:04.719 grade and we got to stop that because we keep 0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:07.440 thinking we got so much time, but use. 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:09.160 Our time wisely. Just start now. 0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:12.000 Whatever ideas you have, whatever business you want to start, 0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:14.160 go for it and create it and do it and 0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:15.400 and there's no limit from that. 0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.960 I did it. You could do it, most definitely. 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.960 Man, it's make some lord to master fee one time 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:21.800 for the one time. 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:22.400 Yeah. 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:26.640 The volume