NEW Nintendo Switch Console REVEALED at Super Mario Bros. Wonder Direct! | Nontendo Podcast #67
The boys share their thoughts on the NEW Mario Wonder Nintendo direct which included the reveal of a BRAND NEW SWITCH
2023-09-01
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And beep Careo Day, Happy Mario Day, Bob, not like that. Whatever you August thirty first of all days on a on a Thursday, Actually Thursday is normal, but end of the month and at thirty first direct? Is that normal? I don't know you're bringing it up now. So I'm bringing up a list of Nintendo directs because I always like to see like how consistent they've been. Usually they are. Usually they have like a set amount that they do sprinkled around the year. Because it's a video game centric direct around Mario Wonder, it might just be one ever made sense to promote the game. So on August tenth of last year, they did just a Splittoon three direct. And then on September thirteenth, the last year, which is a very special day. Do you know why that day so special? It's a very special day to all of us. September thirteenth, Yes, oh it's your birthday. They did a regular old Nintendo Direct. Oh well, it's it was nice. That's a nice present. So that means we might get a regular old Nintendo Direct in September. We might. We may on your birthday again, who knows, late September, early October maybes, maybes, maybes. Uh, everybody, we're gonna be talking about that direct today as well as as well as we got the new switch. We were right, everybody, the new switches. Here much to say about what is seemingly not much information. I haven't even seen the direct yet, so this is before were watching it together. Yeah, well, watching it together, Bub, seeing it, you're gonna hear me talk a lot about Mary Day. I'm so excited. Okay, maybe we should throw to the intro alright, Tokyo no koko or fium she marshall. I was so distracted by those glasses lighting on what you said, not the fact that you said it in Japanese. Yes, it is tiny wood, Bob with yet another Now, Bob, I want trying to show you. I was looking at this. You know what this says? Right here? Baby, that says I learned that the first kanji means east and Tokyo means East city. Oh that's cute. Might also explained kyot because city is something over here we have sunk. Also Japanese snacks Tokyo treat. The theme this time is Moon Festival. Take the festival through the Moon Festival inspired snacks like kit cat chestnut, Japanese mecan orange juice, pickled dacon, potato chips, and black pepper potatoes. Good, I'm drinking this drink. Drink if you don't know, people complain that I eat during these spots and I'm sorry, Oh we have to. Tokyo Treat is a monthly pop Japanese subscription box that features seasonal and limited edition snacks that are only available in Japan. This is just really good orange juice. What do we go? Where's the booklet? We got? We need the booklet so we can tell what some of these snacks are. Because some people can't read Japanese as well, ask us, Actually I can read it great, I just don't know what any of it means. So the booklets will tell you dietary restrictions for everything ingredients and also yeah, just what it is. Both these boxes come with a book, so say hello to order. Japanese people will stop the season by celebrating Suki Me, the Japanese Immune Viewing Festival Szuki Me. We're gonna be there for this. This is we're going this drink drinking. This is Japanese mecon orange juice. Hell yeah, brother, I've moved on to Sakuraco because I want to see if we get a pastry this this month. Sakura theme is the also the Autumn Moon festival. Let's go full moon soft shoe full moon cookies are Yusagi mash mellowa Sakuraco strawberry white chocolate. Yea wait, strawberry white chocolate? Is that the Oh my, I'm not gonna get so excited and I'm gonna have to cut this out because it's not what I think it is. I'm gonna have to have this chocolate cream pie, tell you what, because they once they sent these strawberries dipped and chok it is all these were the best things. I'll have one with you. White chocolate fruit strawberry. I don't know how they do it, man, It's like a strawberry that's like freeze ride, but filled with white chocolate too, like a real strawberry. Oh damn, that's good. So Coroco is a monthly subscription box that supports local Japanese snack makers. Each box contains exclusive items like teas and special Japanese table where. Oh it's a cool plate with a little bunny rabbit on it. All right, Experienced Japan from the comfort of your own home, or gift a box to a loved one. Check out the special promotion from the link in the description box below. We'd really appreciate it, and we clearly love it. I'm gonna have one of these little gummy guys. I'm gonna make a hot tea. All right, let's get on with the episode. Okay, Oh, hello again, Bob and I was just talking during the ad break that was previously filmed. Hate to spoil the illusion that we're playing Starfield tonight, and that's what's currently on my mind. I'm a little excited for it. Yeah, I forgot that it's coming out today and I do want to play it, so I'll give it a try tonight. I'm making a poll right now as well for chat because we're live again. Are you getting the Mario read oh lad? Nintendo switch? Yes or no, which we'll talk about at some point quickly right off the bat here, Uh not that it not that we have to apologize or I have to apologize. But we promised, well I promised that would be live in person this episode, and when not, and it's my fault this time. There's actually a few reasons it's kind of worked out. Let's play. It was my fault. I tried a new medication to help me sleep a couple of nights ago, and it like knocked me out for like like like literally at the time. And then all of yesterday I was like really dizzy, and I like fell down my steps in my house and I couldn't drive, and I was like, I'm a little worried about Thursday. So we just called it off to be safe and said we do it in person. Also, Dalla had a surgery, so I wanted to be home to look after her anyway. And then we realize that tonight's Starfields, so it's best that we're all home to stream the game. So we'll try. We'll aim for next week to touch tips in person. Yes, I'm excited. So what do you want to do? You want to talk about the switch first? You want to talk about Mario first? People are here for the people here for both. Let's let's talk about the switch because that's what I'm interested in, and then we'll talk about the game. Three hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, here here she is the old nintend To switch. That's cool, that's old, and I my favorite version of the original switch might be the Mario red because the whole thing's read. Yeah, I agree, it was probably the very lack loss of design, but at the same time, one of the All A special editions we had because they fully read it. It. So from the front of the switch on the screen pots you could see red on the top and the edge. Now with the old because the screen is so much larger and it comes right to the edge, is it going to be as obvious that the whole thing is red. The whole thing is not red. I can't like click on the pictures, but the whole thing's not red. The front is black, the back is d What the heck? The back is red and the and the volume buttons and stuff are red, but the front is black. Bring up a picture of the original red one here. It is the whole point. What I didn't even know this. The whole point was that it was all It was all red. That's what made it cool. So from the front, the bezel around the front was red. Ye, So so there was there's a thicker bezel around the screen on the original Nintendo switch that is black. But still the front of the case was red. And that's what made it look really cool because the whole thing was wrapped in red, but on this new one, it's not like, oh, it's like yeah, you can literally see it's half black. Yep, what the heck? Why did they do that? I'm so mad about that. I like it a lot less because of that. That little, small little detail is so important. It's so weird because it was the only time they ever did it with the original model, and now they have a chance to do it again, and they intentionally didn't. So did they just not like it? Were they like that's dumb, let's not do that ago. It was definitely just too hard for them to do it. Well, that sucks. Actually, I care about this a lot less now, I know, I like, don't want it. It's such a stupid little detail that's so important. I mean, it's cool that the back is red. I mean it's a different color. That's unique. But and I guess the knock is red. And they did show in the trailer this is the one pot I skipped to. There's some little hidden coins in the back that and also a little Mario figure, which I mean, but I mean that's hidden and also at the back, so you're never gonna see it. It's just a nice little leaster egg. Yeah, I mean it's cool, But I'm not buying this thing for the coins on the inside of the dock, you know. No, I'm buying it to make a YouTube video opening it. But if it wasn't for that, I actually wouldn't want this because you can already buy Mario Red. You can just use the Mario Red joyt guns from the last switch, or you can buy those separately. I'm not sure how much. I don't think I want this anymore. It's specific. Honestly, I think the big deal breaker is the fact that the front is black, because otherwise it's just a regular switch. I didn't know that until now, and I'm literally getting hot broken. You can, like Millhouse in Simpsons, you can pinpoint the moment I went so excited. What's what's even weirder is that the original had a blue wikon grip and this only has a black one. It's worse. Yeah, it's so much worse. Oh. Same thing with the joy Coon rails. Oh yeah, because they were like blue and yellow as well. Oh what a disappointment. I'm assuming this doesn't come with a case either. I don't see a case anywhere. How how can it get worse? Bob? It is. It is pretty disappointing. Someone said I prefer this and chat. I mean, everyone's gonna have different takes, and that's fine, but I think I think you would have to be in the minority there. Ninety two percent of people said no. By the way, they are not buying this switch, which yeah, there's no real reason too, I guess yeah. I mean I also when I tweeted about it and people were saying that they weren't going to get it, but I mean, people were saying that they like this version more, they like the black more, and I don't know, I don't know why. That seems like a that's just not as fun. It's not, Mario. It's very clearly not as they put less effort into it. Blue. Someone in chat said, Zach said blue and Red is cooler than the old lead version. I agree. I think it's cooler. I think the blue and red looks cooler, and the wrap around made it unique. This is just the wrap around is the most important thing to me. That makes it us a very unique That's what made it special and unique. Otherwise it's just another special edition to put up there alongside the Zelda one, this Platoon one, the Polka one one, and I think it pales in comparison to all of those. The only thing that's kind of cool is getting a red DOC because we only have white and black docks, so getting a red one that's pretty unique. But also it's not going to really fit the theme of anyone's Daycore's gonna have a random red doc. Remember this, though, the back of the original version has a black kickstand. Remember that, you know the new one. I mean, it's all lads to The whole back is red. I can only imagine they did that because it's so easy to lose, and if you wanted to replace it, you could just replace it with a black one. But you would think that wouldn't matter. You would think, just make it red, and then if you end up having to replace it with a black one, you end up getting that ugly look. Anyway, why does the ugly look come default? It's an excuse for them to not have to have a bunch of red ones on standby. When you send servicing cheapest pot of manufacturing a new switch. Yep, yep, you're right. Okay, well that's the new switch. I actually was kind of excited, and now I am not as much. I just want a color match it to the old switch, but I'm not going to spend three hundred and fifty dollars to do that. You can borrow mine, you do well, you have both, right, yes, so you you do that, and you do it and then we're good. I would buy it purely because at this point I have every switch and I gotta keep buying them. I'll do one. I'm boxing for it. Also, you have to imagine this is gonna be probably the least sold special editions switch they're going to make, because at this point, this late in the game, who doesn't have one already? No one's upgrading to a red one. This one. I think maybe maybe they might. We did last generation with the last switch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is true. Honestly, even if I wasn't a content creator guy, I might have done that. I might have gotten the Mario Red Edition one because it'll think the original Nintendo switch wasn't as good. It had worst battery, and it had some that is, their minor issues that got fixed and then you know, a nice special edition comes out and it makes it worth the upgrade. But we don't have. That's not the situation this time. This is the same switch we've had for a couple of years. It could it could know it's the old. It could push people to getting the old versus having a regular launch one. They could done that on Pokemon's Platoon Zelda. Maybe they're Mario fans. Mario was a big n But but it's not even Mario Wonder. It's just red. It's something that's already happened. It's just red. If it was Mario Wonder themed, Sure, it's Mario themed, it's you like Mario here, it's it's it's not Mario themed. It is red and black. It has He's there. No one's going to see that. It needs to be on the front. It used to be Bam. It needs to be a little coin on the Joycon. It needs to be something wonderful. Then the game is called Wonder and there's nothing to wonder about this switch. I wonder why they didn't try harder. I'm not saying I like it. I'm saying there's gonna be a select few people that will use this as an opportunity to upgrade to the old. I'm not yelling at you. I'm yelling at Nintendo. I understand because I'm disappointed. All right, let's talk about the actual Mario Wonda part of the whole thing. I I'm gonna get a water though, because I forgot to grab on. I'll be two second. Okay, while you do that, I can hear it. Oh oh you want me to start already? My mouse disconnected? There goes. All right, we'll talk about Mario wonder sure why not here? It is so they're having the same issues that we have sometimes with YouTube, where they tried to cut the beginning of the video out because when you click on the thumbnail, the thumbnails is fifteen minutes. Is that? No, it's not, but it says it's it's a forty six minute long video. Okay, Well, at least we know it's not just us. Yeah. And and you can't scrub. You can't scrub the bottom. The whole thing's a wash. YouTube's chalked. Can you watch it? Though? I can't. I just have to find where it starts while you're finding it, Okay, find it. We had a we had a cup full of agaton. Thanks for the gift, and mister Rock, thanks for the five super chat. Appreciate you. I can hear I'm going to open it up alongside I'm not I'm not playing audio all right. It is just the cutest. I love the animations. The animations are so good, and throughout the whole trailer you get you get a lot of there's a lot of little snippets of like incredible animation that all you know, come together to make it the whole thing look really nice. I've been looking at clips. I haven't had a chance to watch it because I was taking care of Dollar this morning. But the actual game, when you see gameplay off, it looks a lot more traditional than I was hoping. So when he's moving around, yeah, it seems like just new Super Mario Brothers. But the animations are way different. And there's like a billion power ups and new moves and stuff that they showcase later on in the trailer that I think make it worth a completely new game. Okay, and we'll talk about those later. I have some thoughts on that too, because there's like there's gonna be a lot of you're gonna have to do a lot to get all the little secrets and all the little one hundred percent of this game. It's gonna take a lot, well, argument's sake, though, what I'm seeing right now is the start of every Mari your brother's game of the last ten fifteen years, Bud, would you're in the flower Kingdom? No, I don't care. That's a new kingdom and laterally starts with bows of doing bows of things. But Peaches right there, Peaches right there? Yeah? Do you think that giving up on the whole Peach being a captive princess thing a little bit? I can't. I mean, I like it. I mean Peaches a boss bitch. No, yeah, no, I agree. I think it's time. I think it's been time, and you want to be able to play us here, So I think that's cool that they switch it up every once in a while. I agree. So I don't want to jump ahead too much. But the way it seems to work is that you get a some of the levels will have this specific flower in it that if you water or something, the whole thing changes, Like something about the level will drastically change. Maybe you'll turn into something. Maybe the level will tilt in a weird way, and then it causes all this stuff to happen. Maybe the floor will drop out and you'll just start falling like levels can shift like all of a sudden. That's the wonder part. Sounds wonderful. Also, there's the Overworld's like a normal Mario game, but it seems like you there's some you know how in Mario three D world you can like kind of walk around between all of the different stuff in the overworld. Yes, there seems to be a mix between you being snapped onto rails and then also some areas you can just walk free your Rome too. It's a different style of an overworld. It looks like, okay, all right, it's gonna be a lot of this today. It's gonna be a lot of little changes that we're gonna be talking about. I'm waiting to be kind of wowed by the new Mario because I was really ready for it to be very different, and so far I am seeing what I've been seeing on the Wii and the wi You yeah, but look, it's a little hat comes off when he jumps, and when you jump on a guy's head, it goes, wow, excellent. Cool. Okay, I'm gonna start up. I'm gonna get a poll going. Well, you can do a poll now and then do a poll later when we're done. Okay, watch it the fall, because I was thinking, does this look different? Look different? Yeah? Do it now and then we'll do it again at the end. Look different to what and the last two d Mario just different? Does this? Does this Mario look different? Period? That's it? Does Mario wanted to look different to recent tudi Mario's sure? Okay, sure? Because I feel like if you, if you joined in in the next like ten minutes or so, you'd be different to what. I think. That's the point, like, is it different? Is this a different Mario? Like? Are we getting a different? Like very a lot of nice, cute little enemy designs. Now, there's a lot of new enemies and they all do wacky stuff that I think we'll see later. Right now, this part of the trailer is really just their slide showing a bunch of stuff. I will say, the world looks really full of a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff in the background, there's a lot of stuff on screen, there's a little look at the overworld, and you seem to snap really quickly between the overworld stuff. So when you will watch this, well, was it fifteen minutes of the direct? Yeah? Did it? Did it feel long? Was it exciting? Was it a little I mean, I was locked in because I'm interested in all of the little tiny changes, and it was just a lot of little tiny changes. Was there anything that really stood out and was like, whoa, I this is different and I can't wait to try this new mechanic. I noticed that. So there's the fact that the world can just change. You hit a power up in the in the whole world just changes and does something different. There's the fact that there are a handful of unique power ups that are unique to this game. And then there's also ability upgrades. Basically, like you can get in ability that you can equipped that will make it so if you hit lava, you get rescued, like so you get a free lava hit, or you get like an extra jump in the air. I don't know if that one's real, but there's stuff like that. Or there's one where it's a vine that you can basically whip to a wall and like like a grappling hook. Almost that's an ability that you equipped, it's not a power up, and you unlock those abilities. So that's completely different from any Mario game. Okay, okay, And there's also a lot more about the multiplayer. Now I don't think there's like real online multiplayer. I'm not surprised by that at all. I'm very upset by that. But there is like a like a weird ghost world type thing where like other players their ghost will be in your game if you want it, and you can like use them to save you if you get in trouble and stuff. It's a weird like Nintendo style of multiplayer. I'm playing it while you talk, and I just saw elephant peach. Yeah, we'll get to that. That was a big one. I would be able to Are we able to actually just watch it like with sound on or no, you won't be able to hear the sound. But it's the guy's just talking the whole time. I don't know if that's a good idea if we just sit here and listen to him talk. If you'd rather, we can just pull up an article that has all of the key points. I no, I just really I want to get like a full picture here. I didn't get a chance to watch it, so it's a little tough looking just at it with no sound because it looks just looking at it, it looks exactly the same as other mars. So there's a guy that's just telling you all of the things that I'm telling you right now. That's all you're missing. This is the overworld thing that I was talking about. How some of his on the line and then some of it is, wow, look it's open. Yeah. Why why do I care about that? Because you can choose the level you want to go to, right yeah, instead of being like locked in interesting anyway, more overworld stuff. Uh, there's the talking flowers. You know how they kept yapping. They're on the they're in the original trailer, and you're like, oh my god. There's a lot of what's the propos of them? Why are they? Why are they yelling? Why are they here? They're just fun little goofs and gaps. No. I think they give you like abilities, and I think there's certain ones that if you water them, they change the level and stuff like he just he just watered that one and you got a bunch of coins out of it. Okay. Also there are look at look at the character select screen. One of the questions that I had originally with this game was you could play as four different types of Yoshi's, like different colored Yoshi's. How is that going to work? And it looks like they're just you just pick. They're all here all what one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen characters. They split up the colored Yoshis, and they split up the colored toads and stuff and the Yoshi's. Fun fact, you can be a Yoshi and go jump and ride on another Yoshi. That's cute. Yeah, so if you play as a Yoshi, I can just jump on you and ride you. Oh please do The nabbitt is an interesting choice. Yoshi's a nabbit won't take damage, but they also won't transform with power ups. Oh that's interesting. I didn't catch that. The first time nabbit I know from the previous games is like easy mode h And I guess that's that's the catch. One of the concerns that I had was like when you're playing a two D Marry game where there's a bunch of different characters, sometimes those characters like Peach can float, and I don't know what the special abilities are in this. I guess the Yoshi's have nabbit have special abilities, and that's why they can't interact with power ups. If well, Peach has to be I would have float. That's like a whole thing I didn't catch it the first time I watched the trailer. So you can jump a little. She's just floated. You just watch your float, okay. And yeah, I don't know about Luigi either. That's another weird thing because like there's certain, you know, secrets in the level that maybe would be a lot easier to get if you were a different king. The total shell Upwoods just then was interesting. Did you catch that? I think Daisy did. She kicked the total shell up and it like fell down a whole stack. Oh. Yeah, that that you've been able to do? Oh if you hold up while you kick something. Sorry, I thought it was something new. Yeah, So that's what we're looking at so far. I'm just playing. I'm playing the fucking thing now to see what else we can like. I am trying not to be a hater. I'm just like taking it all in. Someone just I guess watching from the outside who's been kind of burnt out on Mario games. I love the Odds style. I'll give you that odd style is a fantastic change. I guess kind of what I'm looking for in a revamped two D Mario is to really flesh out the platforming aspect and do something new and unique with how you interact with the world and like the platforming elements like what not, Like I guess what's an example of something new and different that you can do A plan? I mean, if you keep just keep playing the trailer, it's all very much at least for this trailer and for what I'm looking at, it's all very much on a two D plane, just running left to right or right to left on occasions, very flat sort of environments. And maybe that's just for the for the sake of this trailer, but I mean, it's a two D game, I know, but like, where is the where's the crazy platforming and the reimagination of like controls and getting around the world. It's just this is very and it might just be this trailer, but it's very much here's the power ups, here's the enemies. It's coming. Okay, fifteen minute long trailer. Show it to me. We just got to the are in the trailer with the new power ups. Show it to me, because right now it's looking like I don't want to I don't want to scroll ahead because there's no fucking scrubber on YouTube price now, and I'm gonna lose my spot. Here's the elephant may that's cute, but like, why do I care? It's a new guy. It's another way of going left to right right now. It's a duty game. That's all you do in the game. No, I mean, but like they could reimagine it so it's not all you do in the game. They could take some leads from other games like Hollow Night or Metroid Vanya is like, okay, there are downs and uppies. Most of the game you go left and right because it is a Mario game. Also, there is you remember how I said you you water a flower and it change the level a little bit. There is one of the flowers you water and guess what it's top down. Now show me that that I want to scrub forward. I want it gets there. I'll that's that. That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for. I don't really, I don't care. How when your elephant Mario you can run over are two blocks? Two blocks? Really the same thing is when you went big Mario mode and you just ran through everything I've seen that you're just an elephant. Okay, But then you can put water in your trunk and it's easier to water the flowers. Yeah. Yeah, but yo, Luigi, you got toad turns into an elephant and then you got big Yes, that's all very cute, and the first time I do it, I'll be like, oh I saw this in the trailer. That's awesome. Also, you got pig Marrio, keep it, please keep the trailer going. You want you want a two times speed the trailer. No, it's fine. I just I'm trying not to be a hater. I just want to see something like really different play the game. The Bubble power up lets you create a bubble that you can bounce off of, so you create your own platform space. And I like, but right now, I'm not seeing any reason to actually do it, Like, you didn't need to do it there, show me a level to avoid those ice skating Cooper track. You didn't need to show me a level where you kind of need. There you go, they it go, baby, there you go. Baby, That's what I want to see. Stuff like that is actually that's what I'm looking for. What about drill hat Mario? That's cool. I like that. That's cool. I kind of wish it wasn't just right overalls on all of the power ups, like give me a new colors that. I like, whatever just happened there, stuff like that is unique. And she used the drill to get into a new area. But yeah, you can also on the ground and voice is what I want to see. Keep it going, keep it going. This is what again, That's what makes me more excited. Different ways to navigate the world rather than just going left and right on a two. That's what I'm talking about. You just gotta have a little faith and nintend. They'll give him a little second. I was trying to tell you I was doing my best. You didn't tell me about bubbles and drill hats ball. I had to get there. Man, there's a lot going on in the trailer. I was legitimately worried through the whole start of this trailer. I'm still on. I'm still there's there's still so much more. Those good those two though, those two things alone, that's what I'm talking Okay, to try and explain what I'm talking Remember what I when I kept saying water the flower, I was wrong. It's called a wonder flower. You can water the flowers and they'll give you a little special stuff like coins and whatever. But the wonder flower is the thing that's gonna you just I guess you just touch it and it changes the whole the whole level. Okay, and this is where things are gonna get whacky for you. You're gonna go, oh wow, Now how does that look? Is it in specific locations? It looks like they're just around the world and you just touch it and it changes stuff. There's a wonder effect here. It looks like you're on mushrooms because yeah, playing a Maragan. Yeah you got slinking warp pipe, you got a stampede. Here's the level is canted. That's different, and you're not left to right, you're going on top left to bottle. I would have liked the level to flip ooiver completely. But maybe that is something that happens. That could. I mean, we've seen that in Americans before. There's top down baby. Okay, okay, all right, all right, that is Yeah, that's what I was looking for. Floating world, floating hate. I hate that. I hate those mechanics. That's I'm glad it's different. It's fine. Yeah, it's like swimming. I hate swimming. And we're seeing some Mariodyssey influence here. He's a freaking gumba. But a little mathat now he's a little spike ball thing. Seems like you can turn into different stuff, not just an elephant. Go back, though, go back, go back. This is my this is my back a little bit more. Yeah, this is my one issue with Mario games. Though, Please have more than this, because that the idea is cool, But if if I'm just following a line, that's kind of why I don't like like a lot of sonic mechanics, because yeah, you can go real fast, but like when you get guided through things and you actually don't have any control, I'm like, why I'm watching a movie at this point. Give me understand, give me branching paths and fun things to do with it. I don't say, really experiment with the ideas. Those are fun to see every once in a while, but not for the whole game. I get what you mean, not not too much of that, because sometimes it makes you feel cool and it's on like a guy path and they can do it if there's like paths and you can roll down certain paths and blah blah blah. I understand. We got new little flower guys. You like a little flower? Guy Wood really winds me up. He's simply a Haita shock Harra a two D side scrawling. Mario game is full of two D side scrawling. Yeah, okay, sorry for one fall out of these franchises, and now you know, I feel what we talk about Zelda. This right here is the badges, which are the abilities that you equipped, which is a brand new concept to Mario. And there seems to be a lot of them, and you can either purchase some of these or you or you find them in the world. There's the parachute cap that we saw on the in the previous trail. This is just an ability you equipped, so like you have this the whole time. You have the ability equipped. It's like a brand new mechanic wall climb jump. That's sick. You're playing freaking Ninja guide over here. Kick when you're swimming. Okay, I still hate I still hate swimming, but this is good. This is good stuff. It'll make swimming less bad. That seems like it's like the frog suit crouching high jump, so kind of like in a three D mariogame. You hold a Z for long enough and you'll be able to Oh this is the Castlevania grappling Yeah, oh yeah, safety bounce now getting extra bounce on the lava and I'm assuming you have a limited amount of abilities you can equipped. I don't know what the amount would be. This is uh something that tells you where the secrets are, which I probably have equipped a lot because I like to know where all the secrets are. One thing I want to say to these little piss ants and Chat, I haven't seen this yet. You guys have all seen it, so you know, Yeah, you came in like, give me something new. There's all the new stuff. When we were freaking like two minutes into the trailer. Yeah, because the first like two minutes looks very boring. Well, now we're getting good. But everyone in Chat has the knowledge of what this game looks like. I don't you gotta give me a sick. You gotta give the trailer a sick. I'm giving it as much time you were pausing it a lot. There's there's just more abilities invisibility Jet Run, which is just you just run the whole time. I think I don't think you can stop. I think you're just freaking florid, which is gonna be crazy for speed running. People are just gonna have this one item equipped the whole time, and they're not gonna be able to stop, and they showcase that this one also lets you like it gives you more air when you fall off a platform. Okay, And then they're showcasing all of the abilities once again, the same stuff that we just saw, and there's probably gonna be more than what we're seeing in this trailer too, and that's how you equipped them, and there's more about her. So there's like they call them badges, but they're really just abilities that you equipped, and then you can collect some of them by doing special challenges, or you purchase some of them from this little vendor guy. All of that. It's very unique and I like, I like the sound of it. This game, Like I want to stress, this game has to convince me to want to play it, because Mario's have been very boring and cookie cutter for the last ten fifteen years. I'm trying to be convinced hit to dive back into a two Dy Mario for the first time in like two decades. I mean, I'm gonna play it because I just like two Dy Mario games and I'm just very happy that it's it seems like a brand new, ground up refresh that we haven't seen quite sometimes. I like the little ghost Mario when he's dead. That's instead of a bubble, it's a ghost. Yeah, that's pretty bleak for a Mario. Yeah, that seems very strange. It's not like a boo. It's like your Mario. He's dead. Mario has died as an elephant you can ride Yoshi, and Yoshi is not very happy about it. Mario is boring. Though this looks good so far. I agree. It looks a lot better than every two D Mario since the Supernintendo or maybe GBA we're seeing right now the online play, which is the ghost characters that I'm not I'm really not happy about this. Uh yeah, but it's just this weird mode with like ghost characters like that in the world. I can only pause it when you tell me to pause it. You you, I lost it? Hold on, hold on pause it? Yes you Union Union? Oh yeah you so, no, that's a that's it's Union. Yeah yeah, this Union Toad's name is Union. So this mode, it looks like there's just ghost characters in the world and the only way you interact with them is when you die. They can touch you and revive as a giant penis head. And I think there's twelve ghosts characters that can play in your lobby. So like, it just seems like a really like easy mode way to play the game. I don't think I will ever play like this. WHOA what is that? I don't know. I don't remember this. I'm gonna play the audio just so I can see if I can understand what it. Of course, stand can revive ghosts, so place them in. Oh it's like a checkpoint. It's a checkpoint for the other ghost characters. Oh wait, it's pretty cool. So is that standard or is that like a baby mode thing? This is online mode. It seems like a baby like you have to elect to play this mode. I don't know how often I would ever play this mode. This, this all seems pretty important to me. I don't really have any idea what's good done here the I think the reason they're going with this like weird ghost online mode is because the online has been so bad in Mario games. They'll past couple even Mario Maker, and they just were like, screw it, you don't get online anymore. This is the only online you get. It seems like an online mode where it doesn't matter if there's a bit of lag or not. Everyone's completely in sync. You're just kind of existing in someone else's game, which is disappointed because it's like, just fix it, just fix it, and then we can have No one wants to play with the c through translucent characters who aren't your actual friends, could you? Because you can't actually match make with your friends, right, No, you can't in the mode we were just looking at. But this looks like friend races. It looks like maybe you do it like a ghost mode in Oh, it does say friends, So this is different. This is a new thing that we're just looking at. Now. This looks like maybe it works similar to how it works in like Four's a horizon where you race on a level and then like it'll tell like like if I do it, it'll tell you, Oh, this is Bob's time. See if you can beat it. Oh so you think they're not actually there at the moment. Yeah, I don't think how they played when they played it correct. Okay, I don't love that. I don't love that either. I mean I'll still I'll still gloat and hold it over you when I beat your ghost, but I don't like it. Oh here's a friend room. Wait, no, that seems pretty real. Time, I'm going to play audio players from around the world, whether you're casually connecting with players from around the world or syncing up with friends for riving friends. You can make love you said someone, You can create a room people in chatising. Okay, so it just looks different. You're just the other guys are just ghosts in your world. For some reason, this is this is starting to feel like a whole new thing, even if some of it isn't. Necessarily I'm not even gonna use it or play with it, but yeah, I don't know how much I'm gonna do online stuff. But I mean, I'm glad that there's something, but I'm disappointed that it's not just straight up you can play with your friends. It's like a special thing. I mean, it's good that you can even just be ghosts in somebody's world, but I wish that it was like I think Nintendo is just helping on if you're doing co op and it needs to be on a couch, especially for a Mario games. I mean, honestly, some people didn't like how a new su Marabella is. You can affect the other players, like if if if we run into each other, we can like cook each other into like a into like a pitch, which was the technical term that Nintendo used to in development. Yeah. Yeah, so maybe it's better this way. I don't know, but it doesn't was that it was a oh interesting? Was it the big deal? I'm I'll keep playing it. But the big deal thing is going to be the abilities that you can equipped and stuff and the new power ups. It's Mario, so those are the big the big deal things. Yeah. Look, I needed to be convinced. Uh. I think there's a certain level of feel that's going to need to go into it when I'm playing it. But what I was looking for was essentially something like those badges, which gives you grappling, hook waol, bouncing, extra floating, and then a lot of the example gameplay they played with those badges was like vertical gameplay, which is also what I was looking for. Yeah, it's it's all new ways to play the games. I'm just hoping that you're not just gonna like find a power up and then the whole level is based on that power up, and then and then the next level you're like back to normal again, you know, like I don't want to equip the inability and then the whole levels, like use the vine ability or else that is the only way you're going to use it. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. That's the kind of stuff that is just played out and formulaic, and I'm not looking for again in another Mario, Like, I feel like we have a lot of the same concerns. I feel like a good eighty percent of this trailer was on two D planes going left or right with Bailey, any platforming or like it's I don't know why some people in chat are like, surprise, that's a two D platform. Yeah. If that's a two D platform and that's kind of where we're at, then I don't want it because that's I mean, I can that plays itself. I can, like I can hold right on a thumbstick all day long. What I'm looking for is something that gives me challenge while I'm going left or right, which I wasn't necessarily seeing in this trailer until about halfway through. But that could just be either early levels, it was just because easy stuff for the tis because you were judging it, because that's our job is to judge the game, and I kind of review games from living I know that's our job, and you looked at it and you were like, what's different about this? What's different? And I was trying to tell you, but you're a visual learner. You needed to see it. And that took five minutes for the trailer. I'll get Okay, you can't just tell me. I gotta see you. Yes, exactly. I'm excited. It was really cool. I'm very happy we're getting a new two D Mario game. I don't know how much of this I'm gonna play, because like, I'm gonna beat it once and then what how much more replayability am I gonna get out of it. I'm gonna have a lot of fun speed running it. I'm not sure I am gonna have a lot more replayability out of something like Mario Omega where people can make levels, because then I just have infinite levels. I don't want to have to play the same levels over and over again. So I hope there's a lot in the game. I hope it's a very long game. Otherwise I'll probably just beat it once and then call it a day. Here is what I'll say. It does look very different to Mario. It's a traditional Mario, and I like that it seems like the focus has been taken away from the full play a coop, even though it's obviously still there. All of these shots essentially what's a single player shots of just one character going throughout the world and interacting with the world in their way, which is what I'm looking for, because while having the co op is fun, I'm not playing it with four people. I'm most likely playing it by myself or maybe with Kim, But I want the experience to be fun when I'm on my own two. I'm skeptical how good the multiplayer is going to be. I'm gonna just assume that it's not going to be worth it to play. It could be really good, but I'm just people bare minimum expectations. I think two people could have some fun. I think when you start getting more than you start getting three or four people into these games, it's just a lot just I mean, most of the screen's taken up with playable characters at that point. Sometimes it's fun having the hectic, you know, Mario experience. But also I like to play a game, you know, I'm a matter guy. Like playing the game. I like running through it, I like getting all the stuff, you know, and sometimes you're held down by another guy, or you get cucked by the other guy when they when they hit you or pick you up by accident. So it seems like they're trying to change a lot of the stuff that didn't necessarily work or was frustrating in previous multiplayer Marrio games. But again, it seems like pared down experience in the multiplayer So I'll have to try it out. What I'm holding the game is going to feel like after seeing this. Once you get stuck into the game, you get a few levels in is you're like some challenging levels and you can kind of play them however you want to play them based on what badges you have, equipped on what abilities you find. It would be nice if the abilities were a little more random, like you said, not so much. Yeah, you find this one ability and the levels designed around you using that ability because they know that you find it in the level. And it almost be cool if like the abilities were random, like you hit a box and you don't know what ability you're going to get, and it's like always different because it doesn't matter. You can get through every level, just how are you going to get through it? I can imagine like blowing a bubble and trapping an enemy, and then jumping on the bubble you kill the enemy. You also get some height, but then while you're in the air, you grapple hook onto a platform that you couldn't normally reach in this level unless you had a grapple hook. And then you find a whole above up top separate area where you can play left or right up there instead and kind of slide and glide and beat but boop and chain all these things together. That's kind of the experience I want to have in a Mario game at this point. I'd assume that when you get a new ability, one of the equippable abilities, it's gonna like have a bit of a level that's going to show you how it works, you know. But hopefully later on in the game they'll be things where if you have that ability to equipped, there'll be some cool little things to show you rogue like Mario. Someone said, I wouldn't I would want the game to be tailed, and it's when Nintendo does best. I just wanted to take risks with it. I feel like they play it very safe with Mario. I want it to be linear, but I want it. I wouldn't mind if the abilities were more roguelike, if the abilities were completely just randomized. So well, the whole reason I think it's different and I like it, it's because you equipped the abilities, Like you can make a you make a build on your on your Mario, Like I think that's pretty cool, but that's gonna make like new two D Mario games have like kind of splintering paths, Like sometimes there'll be two levels that you choose from and that might create a path, or you could find like a secret that warps you to a different world, or they'll be certain stars that you can only get if you have certain power ups, and having all these equippable abilities will completely change all of that because you'll need certain equippable abilities in order to reach certain areas and stuff. Or I don't know that, I'm assuming that's how it's going to work. That's what I want, That's what I would like. I think a lot of mixed reactions to what I'm saying and chat here, Like someone says, I agree with Wood, I'm scared I'll get bored two levels in. Someone else said the game I just explained sounds terrible, which I don't think. So I think I described a game where all the abilities work seamlessly together and you can traverse the level anyway you want. I don't really know how that sounds terrible. Nintendo is really good at letting you play the way you you well, no, well, I mean incoherent drill seems to want it to be more more difficult to traverse the way you want and just vary one way. So well, I think everybody wants the same thing. They're just vocalizing it differently because we want it to be a somewhat linear experience, because Nintendo caters the whole experience to have to be a perfect as perfect as they can make it, you know. That's why these games are relatively linear, because they know how to design a good game. But we want to be able to have options to traverse it a couple of different ways. And I think that they're really good at doing stuff like that, and I think that that's something that will end up see you, and I think that that's what you were saying. You were just, yes, you know, saying it differently than what that guy said, and that guy just so happened to say his way but prefaced it by saying woods an idiot. It seems to be a common take. I mean, Nintendo are really great at designing video games. They look at Tears of the Kingdom or like any of their other games. I just feel like they played it really safe with Mario. And I mean that's they've been phoning them in. They that's not even that's I mean, I don't, I honestly don't know where a lot of this, like backlash and chat against me is coming from in this regard because I am in hot. You came in hot at the trailers? Should should we? Not? All? Because they have been phoning it in with these games for years and for this game have been awesome. I've been We're quirky and interesting and different. But this was our first look at the actual game and not just his elephant Mario, which is cool, but like, what does he do? You know? This is our first look a deep dive. How's the game actually play? Yeah, and they showed us and I think it looks good, very looks good too. I've said, I've said I came around on it. I think it looks good, it looks very different and interested to see how it feels to play. Yeah, I'm still I'm still skeptical on the multiplayer. I don't think I'm gonna love that, but everything else looks great. I'm excited for everything else. I'm glad after how many new supermar Bos games, we're finally getting something that's uh flips the formula on its head, gives us some new stuff to play around with. What sounds like he's getting too old to play Mario and Nintendo games, not Nintendo games, but Mario. Yes, if if the Mario is going to be how it's been up to this point, I am too old to play those, the same way that Bob and I came to a realization recently that we're too old for Pokemon. Yeah, I've felt too old for Mario the last ten fifteen years. I mean, I gotta say I don't love I haven't loved the last couple of two D Marios. Even three D does even Mario three D World, I'm like, you know, you play through it and you're like, all right, I get it is far the most sick. Though. Boss Fear was awesome. Completely knew three D Marrio. That was my favorite Mario thing since Odyssey, and in the last like fifteen years, Odyssey was awesome. I'm just talking about Mario a three D world that kind of felt like, all right, this is just vanilla Mario. But I have a lot of fun with what fans are doing with Mario and two D Mario games, like with Mario Maker, and also all of these crazy rom hacks and stuff, and even some of the like D Sea levels for New Super Marios too, Like there's some really cool stuff if you look hard enough, But just what Nintendo is giving to mainstream audiences has been pretty like safe, yes, and ig it up a little bit wanting more, And I've definitely got more. They've tried, They've tried something wacky, and I love that. I love them for that. This is like, it doesn't even feel Nintendo. We It feels like another team has made a Mario game. It feels almost like you'd be soft adjacent, kind of Capcom, almost like Capcom took a stab at a Mario game. Somebody asked me what I think the next couple TWODI Mario games are gonna be like going forward, if they're gonna follow like the Mario Wonder formula for the next couple, And I said, I think two D marios are now going to be like the mainline Mario games, where they're completely different, all of them. Wait is that again, Tudi Mari's gonna be like the mainline Mario game. Yeah. People people ask, oh, I get what you're saying. So everyone is going to be different. Yeah, like there's gonna be a thing, and this one it's the flowers, and like that's the thing, and the next one's going to have like a new thing, you know. Yeah, because unlike the three D Marios, as you said, they've been phoning it in. They've been doing the same thing every time. And I think it was just because the original Marios and Supernansano Marios was some of the best selling games of all time, that childhood favorites, everyone loves them, and they was scared to change the formula. It's the same thing with Pokemon Company. They're scared to change the formula because it's what made them popular. It's what's been working for so many years. And if it's not broke, don't fix it. I mean, they've been selling a lot for the two D Mario games, but I think they they sell well that they they thought, you know, this is getting stale, and we're gonna start selling well, you know it's stale, Like that was something. I hope the Pokemon Company figures out. Like they're making a lot of money, but I hope one day they're like, all right, we're gonna start selling less if we don't. Tropic Company's problem is they lack creativity and innovation. They don't really know how to change, Whereas Nintendo clearly understand video games, understand what's fun, the understand how to make things wild and wacky. They were just scared to do it in Mario and they finally decided, Hey, I mean even the reviews for the recent Mario games they were high eighties, but like Nintendo, Nintendo's a high nineties company. Nintendo doesn't get hi eighties, they get high nineties. So I think they were like, look, this is it's time that we innovate and change. And it's very different and I love it. It doesn't feel like Nintendo made it, which is a similar feeling I had when I played Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, Like there's elements to those games that it doesn't feel like Nintendo made because it's just it's like, how did Nintendo do this? Like Nintendo, I know they're amazing, but those cut scenes, for example, like, how is Nintendo doing this? So so we had a poll before asking if this game felt different, Read those results, and then do the poll again. Okay, seventy eight percent said yes, now Paul was running the whole time, though it was running the whole time. Yeah, we'll do another. Well, but a lot of people voted initially. We'll do another one, same poll. Does Mario wanted to look different to two D Marios. Now, if I had voted on the first pole, which I didn't, I would have voted now because I hadn't seen everything yet, I would vote yes now, so I expect I expect this to be much closer. I knew that was gonna That's why I wanted to do it like that. That's why I wanted to split it up. So yeah, well, else, we got a couple of minutes left. Do you want to frigging there's there's you want to talk about Starfield weekend? I but you're going live tonight as well. Yeah, So Starfield goes live seven pm R Time, which is five hours from now. I'm gonna go live a little earlier around six kind of talk to chat and stuff. I have the game installing behind me here on my Xbox it's preloaded. If you want to play Xbox App right now, do it get it installed. If you want to play it tonight, I think the only way is to have game pat I might be wrong. You could also probably just buy it digitally. It is a weird thing. There's a weird they've like release the game a day early for some people. I really hate when they do that because that's it's actually even more confusing than that, because the standard version of the game doesn't come out for like a week. But if you buy a collection, and I believe I'm right here, maybe tell me if I'm wrong, Chat, I think it's like September six or seventh or something. If you buy the If you buy the Collector's Edition, the big box that comes with the watch and everything, you can pick that up on the first, which is tomorrow, so I can actually go and get mine tomorrow at Best Buy. If you want to play even earlier, as in tonight, a day before even the Collector's Edition, you can buy digitally with the upgraded version, or if you have game Pass, you can install the base game and upgrade for thirty bucks to the to the space following me Chat to the special Edition barely following you. I'm just waiting to show you that I can't install it yet. It's as pre install I can't play it on game pass. Yeah I know. But install it and hit that. It'll install the whole thing, and then at seven o'clock PM, it'll unlock and you can play it. Why seven pm, that's just when it goes live. It goes It's like it's like a midnight launch adjacent thing. Play it the day before, but only if you have to buy it, though, Bob, you have to buy the specially if the upgrade to the Special Edition, you get the base for free. Thanks. I'm not playing star fielding it. No, thank you. I'm not fucking doing that. That's so dukay. I know it's dumb, but it's so stupid. I got game passed for a reason. I want the day one releases of brand new Triple my first party Microsoft games. That's why I have game pass. I agree with you. One launches, it's day one negative one. What the fuck are where are we? I agree with you, I'm hate with you. I agree with you. People in shadow say pay for this. I've been paying for years, So you do get it. Day one you get your standard edition that you get with Game Pass day one, But if you want the special Edition that does not come on game Pass, and that's the one that comes out day negative one. Yes, that's not day one, that's not day one, the special Edition day one. That that's the special editions day one, the standards releases on game Pass. Man, I'm trying to explain to you, you're being a hated right now. I understand it, and it sucks, and I hate it how quickly we flip. The reason I hate this dumb bullshit of a game leasing early is because it's not early. It's out. It's out, it's not early. You're purposely making it late for other people. That's how that works. So while Bob is read that, people in chat are saying it's eight pm. Okay, fine, it's eight pm on my Xbox. When I installed it, it said seven pm. So either my Xbox will get it an hour early on my Xbox was wrong. No, your Xbox, everybody else will get it in an hour late. That's what that means. I think that's I did notice that the time of my Xbox is an hour ahead, because it said ten thirty when it was eleven thirty. So I don't know if that has something to do with it saying seven, but if that means I get it at seven, I'll see you guys at seven. I'm hot now. It's hot here, it is hot. I don't disagree with you. However, I want to stream it tonight, So I spent forty bucks to play it tonight, even though I bought the Clucks Edition, which was three hundred and I'll get that. I think how much was it? Actually? Does that come with the watch? Yes, the watch looks awesome and the box looks awesome, and you get it. You get the you get the little you get like a key chain that has the code engraved in it or some shit. Yeah, that's the only reason why I got that. It doesn't even come with the actual physical game. It comes with a digital download code for the Collected edition. It was three hundred dollars and I can't get it until tomorrow because it's physical, So I had to buy the special edition today. On top of that that I already have that I'm getting tomorrow just so I can stream it tonight. Fuck all that that. I don't want to reward them for such a bullshit ass relation either, but it's my hecking job and I stream thosdays and what am I gonna do? It doesn't gotta be what am I be? Your job? Am I gonna stream freaking again again tonight? Everyone again. It's so fun. It's a great game. I can't wait. Everybody else is gonna be looking and playing Staffield and I'm going to be dicking around because I wanted to say forty bucks everyone. It's gonna the category is gonna be miffed anyway. There's gonna be too many people playing it. Just play blasphemous, not really be playing that. It would be great. I've already bought it. It's too late. It's already bought it twice. Lightning McQueen says, wait have special editions. Lightning McQueen, I'm not explaining it again. Scroll back. Already yelled about it. I've already yelled about it so much. I need like a visual breakdown of all the different editions and when they release, because I'm a visual learner. What's the poll? What's the new poll for the pall is actually isn't that much higher. It's eighty two percent. So even though even it is higher, though even though a lot of people in chat thought I was being a hater. There is still there's still a good like almost one hundred people in chat who aren't seeing the difference between this and other Mario's. And to be honest, if you haven't played them all and you're just looking at them all from the outside looking in, it probably doesn't look very different. Yeah. Probably probably only looks any marginally different because we've played the games and we know a little better. But let's be real, it's not like you're looking at the difference between the NSA Zelda to Breath of the Wild. It's the difference between two different two de marios. You ever see that meme, that's like guy who's movie guy who's only ever seen the movie boss Baby seeing a new movie for the first time. This has giving me boss Baby vibes. I can agree with that analog. All right, we're good. I'm good, Get me out. I need to go hang with the Patreons for a bit. Hey, guys, if you want to come support us on Patreon and you want to do a little debrief on today's episode with us right now live, it's fine dollars over on Patreon. Actually, Bob, maybe you should tell them because I have upset most of them today. Maybe they'll want give us listen it's Bob here from the Nintendo podcast. Give us money. I want money, and then we'll give you a bunch of episodes that are all over thirty minutes of us yapping. It's a hood in the holler. Come over there and give me money. Sixty seven bonus episodes you'd get for five dollars. Do the math. 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I was like, you know what, they're gonna they're gonna hate this whatever. I owned it, I owned the whole time. It's not my fault. These people go see a kid's movie and it's not good, and then they say, oh, well, it's a bait, it's a it's a movie for kids. What do you expect? This has given me boss baby vibes. I expect quality from from movies, from games, from everything. I'm giving this company probably how much is this sixty or seventy dollars? Definitely seventy. I'm giving this company seventy All is this time? I need it to be different to the last twenty games. Maybe it'll come out early. If I pre order it, I'll go get it all game pass. I'm going to the pre order now to see how much end this? Please? Yeah? Thanks for hanging out. Bye bye? Where's the bye button? Here? It is? Goodbye? I got music too, Hold on everybody relaxed. There. It is by
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