Girls Just Want To Have Sums (S17E19)

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Now that the boys and their atmosphere of intimidation are gone, we can
finally breathe. Breathe, ladies. Now let's buckle down and do some math.
Yes, how do numbers make you feel? What does a plus sign
smell like? Is the number seven odd or just different? Are we going
to do any actual math problems problems. That's how mensie. Math something to
be attacked, to be figured out. But isn't it. I mean,
confidence building can't replace real learning. Ear Lisa, sounds like you're trying to
derail our self esteem engine. Let's sing it back on the tracks. The
best thing I can ever be is to be okay with me me. Four
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sums, and Mitch has been given this scathing reviews on social media. So
I really enjoyed it until the end. I thought it fell off a cliff
at the end, really um. I thought it started off a cliff,
and then it started to crawl its way past the play. It started to
so like it got thrown off a cliff in the opening act. It got
this is sparted and kicked down the hole and then it slightly just snagged and
caught itself and it started to try really hard despite its own inability and climbing
strength to make its way back up, and like watching a spider trying to
climb out of a toilet bowl. For a moment there I went, you
know what, go you good thing, you can do it. I believe
in you. But then, like the venomous, poisonous Satan's creature that it
was, was flushed back down the toilet and the final lacks bad storytelling,
Grebit and went love storytelling through it all. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
it's not it's not all bad. There's there's some good stuff in there.
There's a lot of stuff in this one. But I'll get so do you
want do you want me to jump straight into my problem? Do you want
to synopsis? How it we talk about? I know people know this is
a season seventeen episode. Would everyone have watched this? I feel like there
would, particularly Patriots. I feel like there would be some people. You're
listening to this before you've watched it, You're a fool, Yeah, but
I think some people would if it was me for silly billies, if they're
doing that. But sometimes if it's an episode. I've done this with movies
before. I just listened to the Star Wars spoiler special because I don't really
have any care about that being spoiled. So it was more a case of
I listen to people review this, I'll know everything that happens. But then
when I do watch the movie, I'll go in with my expectation exactly where
it's supposed to be. And that's probably the best way for me to have
fun. And I think that some people that stop watching The Simpsons in season
ten might be the best way to go about it. You go, oh,
look, I'll listen to the review for that, and then I can
make my decision on whether or not I want to watch it. Well,
okay, so the story is that what device is schooled in the first place?
I know, they get a new principle, a principal Skinner slandering women.
Yeah yeah, so he says girls and good at maths. They get
a female who's played by friends as mcdormant by the way, Okay, yeah,
very really unrecognized. Yeah yeah. So she decides to split the school
between girls and boys, so girls go one way, boys or the other.
Lisa realizes that they're not going to be teaching proper math in the girls
section of the school, so she tries to sneak to the boys section.
But the only way to do so we need to dress up as a boy.
She gets beaten up, she does all the things, she becomes a
boy essentially in order to be to fit in, and then she How does
this end? How would you describe the way this ends? What's the ending
to this story? Because to me, it didn't have an ending. What
is the ending to this story? Let's just reveals that it was her all
along. Lisa then realizes that boys don't have it as easy as what she
thinks, and then nothing, and then nothing that she hits Martin with a
chair, and the b plot is that Homer and Marge at each other because
Homer doesn't think women are as good as men. Basically, yeah, and
oh that's right. Martin just comes in and plays the flute, and that
doesn't get wrapped up either. He gets kicked to the doghouse by the dog
and then that's the end of That's the last we see of him. And
here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. This is what really annoyed
me. They don't wrap up the fact that the schools divided. We haven't
even gotten to the fact that the parts that had always be yet so okay,
So how did Lisa win the award when she wasn't even enrolled? Well,
she's rolled under a fact name how she turned up. Okay, Homer
and Marge story never gets wrapped up. The other thing is so they don't
rectify the fact that the school was split up into two by the end of
it just ends and then the next episode it's back to normal again. You
mentioned this recently, like when they have, um, they build a tower
in Lisa's room make room for Lisa in season ten, Yeah, and then
just not fixed this. It's a pretty big change. Yeah. Um.
Skinner is also just left as a groundskeeper and has not learned a lesson.
No, now here's okay, So my problems in a So when this out
two thousand and six, ye okay, now two and twenty. This episode
feels so badly like it's been written by someone with a massive chip on their
shoulder and someone that's like, you can't even be funny anymore because some feminist
is going to say that you're joking about blah blah blah. It's sort of
taken the piss out of feminist. What Skinner says is awful, but then
they make the feminist counter argument stupid. All they do all that happens in
this episode from both sides of gender is they look for the worst in each
side of gender, and nothing is shown to act as a consequence for that
or to act as a counterbalance to that. So Skinner firstly massively out of
character, suddenly just goes off the deep end as a as a misogynist and
thinks that women are dumb and doesn't understand yeah, and not only that is
so stupid that he can't talk his way out of it and can't think of
how to like that. Instantly, I'm like, well, this is a
massively out of character. Then they do not show all they show feminists as
a wishy washy people that you know, it's how does math make you?
How does it make you? Feel? Like? They relentlessly mock feminism,
which would be fine if they also showed what the positives of it are,
and they don't do that because even by having Lisa be really good at maths,
that's not what the feminist agenda is. So they like, she's not
even showing that thing of like, oh yes, but this is you know,
this can be the positive upshot of trying to push for equal rights.
It just happens to be Lisa's really good at maths. But Lisa was always
really good at maths, So I'm not learning anything that we didn't already know.
This just basically comes across as people go on, how stupid a feminists
and boys are disgusting. That's that is what annoys me. And the whole
thing of the boys sided school falling to shit again needs some sort of counter
because of the fact that all boys schools exist and they don't descend into an
anarchy. Yeah overnight, Um that like there was just it was all one
way storytelling and lost common denominated stuff and not a shred of thought or intelligence
about how they would try to find the funny in this setup. I didn't
I didn't appreciate how they sort of played up that boys just can't be nice.
Yeah, there's no way a boy could possibly know. When they made
her beat up Ralph, I was like what what? Yeah? Yeah,
like that was awful to watch. I felt I felt horrible. There was
no repercussions for that. It's just no she becomes accepted, Yeah, her
even apologize. She feels no guilt or remorse. Ralph doesn't understand he's standing
there with a smile on his face. She punches him, he runs off
crying, and that's it. Yeah, she gets cheered. Yeah. Yeah,
um the So there's a funny way. So I just watched Mulan over
the weekend and there's a really funny line in that when Eddie Murphy's character is
Mushu is teaching Mulan how to fit in, and she's like, punch me
in the face. It's how men say hello. Like that's funny. But
then afterwards you see the men form a bond and they start to trust and
then they find out who she actually is. And then even though she gets
banished, the core soldiers still accept her for who she is, which doesn't
happen in this episode either. So there's absolutely no learning and there's no acceptance
and principal Skinners, the one takeaway and lesson that Skinner has is I don't
have opinions anymore. Yeah, just don't be your dickhead. That's the lesson
that you're supposed to learn. You can have all the opinions that you like,
just don't have shipped ones. And if you do have a ship one
And someone says that's a shit opinion. Put your hand up and apologize for
it. You don't have to go become a groundskeeper that's too scared to speak
because you're worried about upsetting the feminazis. That in a nutshell was what I
really really did not like about the episode. Now that's said, I did
enjoy Lisa, Lisa's role, Lisa trying to go under cover, Lisa trying
apart from the Martin sorry, is from the punching Wealth thing um, Lisa
doing what she can to study maths. Lisa was Lisa would never do that.
She'd never punch regardless if she wants to learn maths or not, she
wouldn't punch Realth. No, that was a moment where I thought that she
would give it up and just go no, this is or come up with
some excuse or some reason, whatever it might be. It just felt all
that moment was just it was just horrible to watch. Yeah, or it
was going to be the moment that she punches him and then they turn on
her. So like, you know, you just punched the weakest kid in
school and that should not be a good thing. No, Like you know
that not just the weakest kids, the most mentally challenged kids. Yeah,
there's that as well. Um, yeah, there's a lot going on in
the episode that really it's just there's nothing positive to take away from that.
Like I was like, there's an ugliness in this writing that I'm not used
to in this show, like a show that normally sarcasm yes, and satire,
yes, But I was like, well, what are they actually trying
to say here? And I couldn't find anything positive in what they were actually
aiming for. Well, I've just got that. It just felt like they
had a message, but they just copped out at every chance, and nobody
learned a lesson. I've no one's learning any lessons here. Yeah, there
were several and this is what I was talking about about crawling out. There
were several turning points. I was like, Okay, this is this is
where they're going to build the thing, and then it just doesn't happen because
the itchy and scratch you play. Cut that whole fucking thing out. That
in five minutes of just wasted television. It was a good parody of liking
I'll give it that. It was entertaining. Yeah, cut that out and
add five minutes to the end, and he wrapped some shit up. It
would have been better in any other episode. Yeah, wrap some shit up
because it feels like they ran out of time. Everything just sort of just
ends without any actual obvious No one learns anything, there's no there's no moral
lessons here. It's just everyone's a bad person. That's that's a springfield.
Get rid of that first five minutes and have Homer apologize to Marge. Yeah,
have them have that discussion, because Homer doesn't learn anything. Well,
he's a skinner. I'm just gonna have an opinion anymore. No, someone
needs to explain to him what you just said. Yeah, like I said,
that feels like he's been written by a forty year old white guy.
Who who who wasn't written by I'll tell you what. In the good Place,
there's a character if I do like that show. Have you been watching
it? Yeah? So you know in the new season seeing season three?
No first two. So they bring a character in in the third season who
is like your ultimate chauvinistic douchebag, And there's a conversation where he's like,
what do you mean I can't tell a woman to smile? What if she'd
genuinely be prettier? Prettier if she smiled, I'm helping her that. It
feels like if that guy was in real life. He wrote this episode,
and he wrote it in a response to being told, don't tell me to
smile, Like, that's kind of what al mats Oh, Matt, Matt,
it's a forty year old white guy. Oh man, oh man.
He also wrote some Bible stories. By the way, Really, it's been
a bad week for Matt Selman. He listens to this show too. That's
amazing. Well, hopefully he's not a patriot. So a couple of years
from now, he's given up. Six years from the now. When did
this go out? When? When the episode often years ago, two thousand
and six, So it was a thirty four year old white man. Is
he forty years old? Forty eight? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so
close. Yeah, he's outraged. It does feel like someone who It feels
like the episode is trying to tell us a message, but it just doesn't
understand the message by the end of it. It's just it's just a it's
a strange one. It was I want to reel it back. It's someone
that listens. Fuck it, sorry, Matt, it's bad. You should
have seen Mitch's faces, and you can feel free Matt to track me down
and tell me all the things that I've done wrong in my life. Um,
the list is equally as long. What was your favorite moment? I
had a couple of favorite moments here. I did like Charmers commenting on Skinner's
car. Oh house that had Yeah, that was very very funny. But
the Bart Junior Bate switch, Yeah, I thought it was from his penis.
Yea, and I did as silly as it was, I was running
up in the doghouse. Yes, Yeah, that was my favorite. Happened
that was really good, as absurd as it was. Yeah, yeah,
that was excellent the first time. Just no end to that story though,
I needed to wrap that up. Yeah yeah. The first time that it
happened, I actually thought that the cut wasn't perfect, that they needed to
wait a fraction longer before he saw Homer on the couch. Um. But
then the second time, Yeah, absolute perfection. I just feel like this
is the first time I can remember we're both the A and the B plot.
Don't get wrapped up. They just probably yeah, because not normally Margin
Home would have at least had a discussion where they're sort of they're happy with
each other again. You can't leave the Simpsons open ended like that. Says
that Matt Selman eventually became a writer on Seinfeld after two years of failed spec
scripts, and I wonder if this was one of those scripts that he pulled
out of the draws a chop. Yeah, he did write, That's how
he got on The Simpsons, I believe. Yeah, okay, yeah,
submitted a spec script for Sinfeldum of his writing on The Simpsons, Matt said,
the hardest thing that we have to try, that we have to try,
it must be due, is to try and make each episode as good
as everything that's come before it. We have a legacy of greatness and you
don't want to be the person that ruins the Simpsons. And I just wonder
if maybe Matt could have done with putting that on a post it note on
his desk while he was writing this episode. Harsh words from Mitch green Duck.
So overall, I'm not gonna lie. I enjoyed. You have to
turn your brain off because there's a lot of shit that's just like it feels
like the Ralph moment I didn't like. I was just bothered by the end
had nothing got wrapped up. That's what annoyed me the most. I know
you annoyed with most of the episode, and I've got here. I'm enjoying
this play, but I hope it leads to something and it didn't and it
didn't. Know, Yeah, like the same deal. I enjoyed the play,
And I think that that in another time and place, that that could
have been a really good segment in and of itself was a really good segment.
It was just a setup skin of making the sexiest remark. Yeah,
and that did not Like you didn't need five minutes worth of play for that
set up to actually work. It could have happened to any given It could
have happened in any number of what Edna, Yeah, I could have said
it to Edna. He it could have just been a school assembly. Like,
there's a million different ways that that could have happened that don't take five
minutes to introduce. It just felt like it was going a very long time.
Next question, you were there eating the paste. My first question,
this is the easiest question of all. What was Lisa's new name not toilet?
I forgot her first name. It was Boyman, Jack Boyman, Jake,
Jake damn, Um, do you just not put trivia questions together anymore?
I'd watched this on one lunch break at work. It's been an insanely
busy week for me. I'm sorry, so no, I didn't have time
to actually take notes. Um. I just watched it as recently as I
possibly could. Um the Mitch grint away. Look, I tried. What
was the symbol on Lisa's T shirt when she became Jake and Adam? I
thought it was going now it was a football? Oh okay, yeah,
a boy? Yeah makes sense. Second question, what was Marge studying when
Homer interrupted they were younger? Flashback calculus? Yeah, and she's not allowed
to do all the calculat That was a very good joke. Yes, now
I haven't been able to do all the calculus that. What was the equation
that Lisa souls on the white board or incorrectly solved to be fair minus five
plus five equals what white times? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, next question
from you that you're you're up next? Oh okay, sorry that was your
question. Yeah? What color skirt or skinner wearing pink pink blouse? What
was Carney's nickname for Millhouse Carney? Is it Carney. Is Carney the board
one? Oh, Kearney, Kearney, Well, part of me I was
thinking of Emma Carney, the AFLW player. Kearney lost on me. I
apologize mil Jew, mil Jew, which isn't that bad? On the on
the vague subject of mill or Jew. More to the point, did you
see Brian Cranston's Martin Mountain Jew Super Bowl ad? Men's fucking bizarre? A
parody of talking about it though the shining, I am talking about it,
I'm not buying the drink. Was anyone ever buying Mountain Jew? Parody of
I used to love mountain dew? Really? What is it like a lemonade?
I've never dreamed of. Yeah, it just never looked appealing to me.
I had a well when I was younger. I think it was a
green drink. I used to have a T shirt with in the Mountain Dew
logo called Brokeback Mountain Dew Do. The dude was the Slen Twin. Du
made it myself. Um, I say, T shirt, tattoo whatever.
Um, we all make choices. I yeah, so it's a parody of
the shining. But it's just you're waiting for something to happen that dulan't quite
happened and what was this episode? Yeah, and it's kind of like,
why is Cranston doing this of all people? It's probably three million dollars.
Yeah, but there's that like it must have looked better on script, like
on the page than what it turned into. He's just doing from winning the
Ryan Brian Murray, Bill rad Ground for cheap. Yeah, every day is
different. In the jeep. That was really good. I am. I
usually sit down and watch all the Super Bowl commercials, having had a chance
too. I've ever seen those two Okay that we were watching it at work
on the on the TV. Yeah, I think Galaxy's Edge got every single
fucking commercial, but just about it was. I think one of my favorite
super Bowl ones for recent years was when they had Um Leonard Nimoy and Zachary
Quinto as the duelings. Wow, it's dueling spots. Um. I think
it was for a car commercial. But yeah, very very cool. I
might at the end of this episode I'll show it to you. Cool.
I mean Donald commercial was pretty good. Actually, it was just a bunch
of band of people waking up after various nights out or it's just how different
people look when they wake up, situations they wake up in, and then
it's a guy delivering uber eats McDonald's to get you ready for the day.
It was good, right, so that was your final question one, Yeah,
I think so, get into the review. The original air date was
April thirtieth, twenty six, not Tribo Ga gag is. Characters are surprised,
character surprised, the family home has a heart attack. Yeah right,
Yeah, kicks off with the Springfield theater district and there's really not much to
explain to chiscratchy tablets, a linking parody. I thought it was gonna be
a camelot But do you feel like all they really had here was that the
circle of knife sounds like the circle of life, and then they built the
rest of it around that, but it didn't add a lot else. Yeah,
it's sort of Yeah. I enjoyed it. Though I enjoyed the visual.
I enjoyed the general gist of theater going and that sort of stuff.
And it's kind of a funny juxtaposition to have your usual waspy theater going types
going to watch this and then the Simpsons family sitting in the midst of it
all. I love marg being worried and interact with her. That's exactly what
my mum would be like, that's what they do. Have you been to
see the linking? No? I haven't. Actually, the animals come in
the ards at the start when this thing circle of life. Yeah, okay,
that's kind of cool. So the director comes out, she's a female
director. We also got the home at dumb Down Jack with the book,
which I was just like, yeah, yeah, forgettable. The doctor comes
out, she's female. Skinner makes the sex of remarks about girls are being
smart and yeah. It just felt very out of character, first kind to
say that, to say it, but then be to insist on it,
and then see talking the massive mishandling of it after yeah, yeah and again.
Whilst I could understand that if the episode was setting Skinner up as being
a foil for any number of men who have publicly done this and then said
something really stupid not handled the scandal well afterwards, that would be fine,
except the episode doesn't appear to see Skinner as the bad guy here. He
loses his job. It's almost like the victim. But that's the way he
plays at PSK. You know, he has to become the ground ski Asystem
exactly, and it's sort of kind of got one foot in his camp in
doing that. You can imagine people who think the ways you can act in
this would watch this going damn fucking right. We can't even depend on anything
anymore. Yeah, exactly. You can't even say that all women are shit
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Discount link is in the description of this podcast. It's such a thrill for
me to be back in my hometown Springfield. She also graduated from Springfield Elementary.
Principal Skinner, you know, Julianna, it's no surprise you became such
a success. You always got straight a's in school. Well I remember getting
a bee or two in math. Ha ha, Well, of course he
did. You are a girl. No, all I meant was, from
what I've seen, boys are better at math science, the real subjects there.
That should put the matter behind us. Calm down, Calm down.
I'm sure Principal Skinner didn't mean girls are inherently inferior. Oh, of course
not. I don't know why girls are worse. One thing we can all
agree on, though, This little lady sure looks pretty tonight, am I
Right? So then the mop of protesting at the school not even say that
someone shit at maths because they're a woman, even say woman in maths.
Gonna fix it. He's gonna pretend like he agrees. Again, like that
element of it that can work is satire. If he's not the hero,
or if he's not even just ambivalent treated ambivalently. They have the first of
a diversity forum, or first of many, as he says, as many
Skinner worth address. And he just doesn't know what to say. He puts
his foot in it. Today we celebrate the first of many, many,
many, many diversity forums. Why is it that women appear to be worse
at math than men? What is the source of this illusion? Or is
I call it the biggest lie ever told? You're a worse version of Hitler.
Please believe me. I understand the problems of women. See the principles
are ranny? Am I wearing women's clothes? I didn't notice when I look
in my closet, I don't see male clothes or female clothes. They're all
the same. Are you saying that men and women are identical? Oh?
No, of course not. Women are unique in every way. No,
he's saying women and men aren't equal. No, no, no, it's
the differences, which there are none, that make the saneness exceptional. Just
tell me what to say. At first, I'm watching someone I feel bad
for skinner, But then I realized, no, you're saying the wrong things.
Mate, Yes, he's being an asshole. It would you say he's
being an asshole though? Or is he just? Yes? You can't put
on address to show to try to make a point about I don't even see
your gender, Like, would you would you see it that was doing it
deliberately. You've already proved that you do. If by the end he understood
that what he did was wrong, would you still look at him now as
being an asshole? I don't think it's more. See if he was doing
this and then by the end he was like, oh wow, I really
shouldn't have done that. Now I understand why. Then at this point it's
like he's not being an asshole. He's just doing something. Doesn't realize he's
wrong. Correct If he learns, he's If he learns the less, but
he doesn't, that's why it's bad. Yeah, that's what they needed to
have him understand what he's doing is wrong. If you don't, and then
he just feels people watching going yeah, fuck off at leave Skinner alone.
It's like if you've got a dog in a movie that and the dog shits
in the house, it's not till the trained in the lane. That's like
your comedy things. The dog is always shitting. If that dog doesn't learn
to shit outside by the end of the movie, that's a ship dog,
bad dog. Yeah. If it does learn to go outside, it's a
beautiful dog and you love it. You're gonna be really upset when the farmer
takes it out back and puts a shotgun to its head, because that's what
happens to movie dogs kids. One dog, well, nearly the dog in
Babe the dog wasn't a pig going to be killed? No, because it
attacked. Yeah, yeahma, hogger was going to kill Oh yeah, farmer,
scary time monster. And then the second one, the dog nearly hangs
itself from the bridge. What the city one o the dogs? The dogs
hanging from a bridge? Why? I can't remember how. I can't remember
how I got that situation. But I was hanging from the bridge. Wait,
I'm gonna wata google this. It could be wrong. What happens when
you let George Miller direct a kids film? I've googled Babe Pig, City
Dog Bridge. So you have the dog hanging from the bridge. So it
was a pit ball. Yeah, I was hanging from the snakes hanging upside
down. That's a different thing wrapped around his neck was facing down. Though
I don't know. It's a dog hanging from the bridge and was going to
die. Dogs get treated poorly in Babe films. That's the best. That's
the moral that's the point. Yes, don't if you dog with James Cromwell,
the skinner gets replaced by France to Domant aka Melanie Uppuot. She splits
the school in half boys and girls. Then it ends with the boys forced
to do ball and dancing, which was a really weird visual was strange.
I didn't mind it from the perspective of the audience though, when you just
see charmers kind of conduct orchestrating the music or conducting the music seemed to be
flat. Yeah, the family are all at breakfast and they do the whole
reminding the views of the story what they're splitting the kids, the boys and
girls at school. We got the part Junior gag. I did like that.
That's what they would normally do with mister teeney Well, I was gonna
say, like it's it's good, but it is also almost a beat for
beat ripoff of the naked gun, one of the most famous naked gum jokes
ever off Nice Baba and then there's an actual baby. You just don't have
this episode. Well, I mean, if you gotta rip off, let's
steal a joke from a movie from the eighties. It's gotta be an artists.
All this whong about girls and man as silly. Women are as smart
as man. Why a woman invented liquid paper? Well, you know what,
a man invented actual paper. Well, a woman also invented the windshell
wiper, which goes great with another male invention, the car. I think
a woman came up with nylon stockings. I mean probably, we certainly use
them. Let see, men also have rocket ships, suspension bridges, constitutional
government. It's no shoes, bread knuckles, pinball machines, the Renaissance?
Why did women invent sleeping on the couch? Have you ever been banished to
the couch? No, I'm my house. I've never been banished. Have
you has ever got to a point where I've never been banished to the couch
because I put a door lock that can only be opened if you solve algebra.
Have you banished ash to the couch? No? No, no,
We've never had any fights that have been couchworthy. I feel like if you're
at the point where you're banishing the other person to another room, something needs
to be done. Yeah, let go see a council. It should never
get to that point. You should never go to sleep angry at each other
no down bottle. Anyway, I've never gone to sleep angry at out.
She's probably going to sleep angry at me, but never like she still stayed
next to me. But although, to be honest, almost worse because you
just feel anger radiating off the other person. Like have you ever got I've
never got an elbow back. No. But somehow, even though it's just
someone laying you know how they're laying down, you're laying down, you can
feel the tension. You can feel them being awake, yeah, like they're
not moving, but you're like, this is just just not I can feel
her being angry. It's like when you can feel someone's watching you, like
someone's there, but it's a thousand times worse. Yeah. Yeah, when
it's your partner angry in the same bed. Yeah, knowing cut a few
genitals in mid of the night if they wanted to, And you also know
that you've probably got two more days of it. I don't think I've ever
been in that situation. I think we've had a few blobs, but nothing
that last two days. I can see you doing something to pissash off,
though, does that Oh yeah, it's all been just your mum On the
other hand, No, that was last week. Well we up to so
skinners on the new principles should divide. Weirdly, Mum insists that I come
over and sleep next to her when she's mad at me, just so I
feel less. Kids are all arrive at school, are really painting a school.
So it's tw different colors that the girls they were to go and the
boys and whatnot. And the girls get like an uplifting farewell from Otto and
the boys are all locked in a cage. That was funny as well,
that was very cool like that obviously that sets the scene that the boys are
going to go to hell. Yeah. I don't get why they have to
treat the boys differently. I treat them like the animals. Well why is
it that? What is about having girls in the room that stops them from
just like that? Anyway? So why why do they not have like that
when the girls are they don't like the girls? Yeah, yeah, so
why they're not biding the girls? Yeah, just suddenly become a law unto
themselves. Yeah, it's not like there's no authority figure and it's still a
teacher had that had the school descended to that because they didn't have a teacher
anymore. That would be one thing of the flies or something. Yeah,
just because there's no girl in the classroom, that's it's not the case.
Sit there with your wighing out, but you're not going to cause anarchy all
the time. Have you ever done at school? Had my wing out twice?
You had your wing out twice at school on purpose? I feel like
it's a crime that you're admitting to. We're up to, So, Lisa,
my wing was my business. I was in school, lisas the dooring,
all the painting by women in the girls side of the school. Doesn't
like their new approach to math though, and as you mentioned at the start,
it's just weird, Like they say that girls is ever fair, crack
at mats and not dumb, yet when it comes to learning mats they portray
them as basically Yeah, they basically proved Skinner's point in Lisa realized that she
watches the boys that can be proved or should be proved. No, it
sort of goes against the moral of this episode. Yeah, yeah. She
sneaks into the boys school for a mental challenge, Um tells the wolf to
go away, sees the class learning gets it wrong. It's happy that she
got it wrong. She's just like I said, we know Lisa's happy.
Yeah. Yeah, Martin got it right, didn't he know? Because she
the first the first equation he got wrong because he forgot about the cone um
or about the carrot knows the area of the carrot knows. Oh, of
course, yeah, one third something times the base the skin at the base
times skin is now the assistant groundskeeper. No girl is allowed, Prince,
not Skinner. It's groundskeeper Skinner now assistant clowns keeper. Yeah, puke,
assistant groundskeeper Skinner. Do you think it's wrong that I can't get the best
math education because I'm a girl. I don't have any opinions anymore. All
I know is that no one is better than anyone else, and everyone is
the best at everything. Not you. You're the worst. Now get closing
in those squirrels. Please be reasonable. I'm sure we could this clip here,
this quote here, Everyone is the best at everything. This is true
to an extent when it comes, and I've mentioned it before. I was
kick, You're no less celebrated goal anymore. Yeah, scoring doesn't matter.
Yep, that's poors shit. Absolutely play sport to compete, yes, and
everyone that's the problem. Everyone is not the best at everything. Yeah,
it's also vital lessons to occasionally learn that you will fail. Outsides. Yes,
the squirrels poisoning skin to there suddenly became happy Tree Friends. Yeah,
I was really bizarre, Like I was just like, Okay, I guess
Happy Tree Friends were still a thing. I don't know when that was.
I really don't remember. Um, I completely forgot it exist unto you just
mentioned it. Yeah, it's quite crank Yankees, remember that was the thing.
Oh yeah, yeah, I never watched it as it used to be
on like before sighting the South Park. I think i'd always see like the
last one minutes. Yeah, I there was a time that prank phone calls
for the height of comedy. You kicked my dog? Yeah? Um I
I didn't mind the squirrel joke certainly where it started, like the idea of
poisoned their squirrels, that sounds like something that Willie would do. But then
they have them actually pulled the poison into his mouth. Kinners. Actually,
well that well, that's the resolution. That's why Skinner didn't learn anything.
He got killed by squirrels. Well he came back, though, how do
we see him again? But he's just brain dead. Possibly Lisa is talking
to Marge. Let me get the flashback he of Hommer interrupting her learning the
calculus when it happened, make Dunbergen erode some beach. Oh, I love
too, but I've got my calculus final tomorrow, My baby. The only
math you need is you plush me equals forever. Oh since then, I
haven't been able to do any of the calculus I've encountered in my daily life.
But that's not going to happen to you. It's very true you never
encounter maths in your day to day life. It's very Maths is very,
very pointless some stuff. I guess maybe when it comes to playing snooker.
Yeah, I would love to have a protracted with me on the table.
Yeah yeah. But besides that, I actually do or if I'm like,
the amount of times I'm like angle of incidents has to equal to the angle
of um fuck whatever the yeah, the exit angle. This is the thing.
Do kids still write at school or alto pretty much all laptops? Now?
I think that's a bit sad. HM. Imagine like not being able
to write? Well, why do they teach kids to write in primers?
With shouse for future historians. Yeah what why why teach me how to write
in primary school? I gotta know how to pass notes to your first love.
Yeah that's true, draw tee pictures of the teacher and whatnot, sick
notes, how to forge them. Yeah, there's there's still some skills that
you can use with a pen. Did you ever a forge your Paris and
I used to practice some peple times. Yeah, my ms was talking moms
is impossible. My dads were very jadan over. What I realized when I
got to high school is that I'd never be able to get dad's right.
But I could make up one one. Just make up a signature that has
a D in it. Yeah, that'd be fine. Not the first name,
just a D squint. Yeah, well his first name is Darren's.
I mean like just deep Dan squiggle. Okay, yeah, it's gonna be
d G squiggle. What fully players do that? Yeah? First letter,
the last name into just a cross march suggest that Lisa dressed up as a
boy. Um han't walks in. He could put full by it. Invites
to the movies, you know, invite our kids the cool friend. Yeah,
Lisa is then at school and it's really, actually really good acting from
the yardly here ye playing the boy? That really and and this is the
sort of stuff that I really did like that. Um bend it like Beckham
style? Um, what was it about a boy? She's no, there's
something else. She's the the man. Yeah, bye, I can kiss
the Amanda Show. I used to love the Amanda Show. I really don't
you kill me? I never saw it. Okay, you're gonna judge.
Um, But I wonder if this was the voice she pitched to do bart
this was her boy voice. Interesting, that would be a cool thing to
do for your for your own Easter egg. Like, I'm just gonna slip
this in. Yeah, ow, what are you playing? Punch for a
punch? How So? What's your name, Nuby, I'm a Jake.
That's your Christian name. What's your surname? Boy man? Boyman? Jake,
boyman. You have toilet paper on your shoe? Nah, yeah,
I guess they do. I'm gonna call you toilet. My name isn't toilet,
it's jake. Hey, you're talking toilet toilet. They want to know
his last name. That's actually true. Boys just referred to each other as
our last names. And she goes with boy man. They named her toilet
what I don't name a toilet? I can't remember because she had toilet paper
stuck to her till herp of stuff to the shoe. Yeah. They're in
class and Nelson has the gun drawing. I didn't appreciate all the guns in
this. I guess do kids still like that when as a kid I wasn't.
I wasn't really Presumably guns, presumably young boys would still play soldier and
play with pretend guns and that sort of thing. Lisa gets the equation wrong,
and this is where she's happy. Bat she gets the equation wrong.
Um. Yeah, they're in the cafeteria. Did you notice here that Ralph
is in the fetal position on the ground. Oh no, I missed that.
Yeah. I thought they're going to reference Ralph here. Know you was
just hunched on the ground. Yeah, just a broken little little man.
Um. I did enjoy asking me your house about Lisa. I had to
break it off. Yea clinging that's really really good, And I'm glad that
she didn't come clean there. Yeah. Yeah, Actually her voice does get
high pitch yeah yeah yeah. So do you miss having the girls around?
Nah? Girls never really got me. Did you know Lisa Simpson? I
heard she was pretty cool Lisa. Oh yeah, we totally had a thing,
but I had to break it off. What the hell are you talking
about? She got too clingy. Millhouse doesn't do clingy. I have to
cove that was what eating food spills the food on Nelson. This here,
though, if you're gonna do this, you're gonna go all the way.
If you're gonna have Nelson beat Lisa up, she gotta show some signs of
it. I understand why you can't show the repercussions of a male beating a
female, then don't do it in the first place. Like I said,
you mean likes to be has to be something, not just her crying.
Her pants were like, her clothes were a little bit scuffed. If Bard
comes in saying Nelson really wailed on this kid at school today, Remember when
Barker beaten up by Nelson, he can't having a trash heroid. Yeah,
I understand why you can't have felt comfortable. I felt uncomfortable just hearing a
cry. To be honest, it shouldn't have happened. Yeah, you don't
need to do that. Why did you need to do that? Yeah?
No, that's a good point. She didn't need to be beaten up,
so it could have actually talked away out of it. I mean perfect.
Resolution could have just been that the whole I love you, I love you,
and then they start that fight and then Nelson starts fighting someone else and
she slips away. Yeah. Perfect. Then you don't have to watch Lisa
or be aware that Lisa has been beaten up by a bigger, meaner kid.
What you could do is you have her runoff sort of scared, and
Bark goes something not right about her, follows her, sees her sort of
behind a dumpster or something she comes clean to. But yeah, you didn't
need a girl getting beaten up by a boy. I know you didn't see
it, but I wasn't comfortable to later have her, like, to have
her be the victim of violence and then perpetrate violence banks that even more in
Yeah, yeah, it just I didn't sit well with me at all.
Hay Lies, you'll missed it. While you were at girls' school, Nelson
totally wailed on this door. Oh my god, that's right, I'm toilet
toilet. So did you tell Mommy got beat up? Not yet? If
I do, she'll never let me go to the boys math class again.
Hey, no one with a choice should ever have to be a girl.
I'll teach you how to be a boy. You would do that for me?
That is so sweet? You're a boy? Nothing is sweet? How
that hurt? Sweet? Now, when you eat like a boy, only
two French fibes and five should make it into your mouth. If they fall
on the floor, you want them more because then they come with extra toppings.
I'm gonna be sick awesome doing that guy's bag while he's not looking.
I am looking, and Duke start a puke war that you cannot finish.
Good night. Madge is still angry at Homer. They're in bed talking about
it. Missus, where could keep the doghouse? So Homer? Still it
didn't learn anything, but at least it was funny. Yeah, Lisa,
I must then pick a fight. So she picks Ralph as we mentioned,
and I just felt so horrible. Yeah. Now from a final test to
fully become a man, you must pick a fight with someone weaker than you.
A fight. Haven't been rejecting the last part of me that's still a
girl. Do it, Lisa, you'll be greater than or equal two boys.
Even though you're only eight, your possibilities are infinite twenty seven. Okay,
I'll do it, But whom should I beat up? These darts are
itchy? Fine, I'll beat up Ralph. Give me a lunch money.
Okay, I guess I'm gonna have to get this party started. Fight fight,
fight, forgive me for this. You just beat up the most harmless
kid in school. Well done, Hey, toilet, I want to play
guns. Sure, and again I get the line in there about you know
what a man like you know until you've picked on someone weaker than you.
That's funny. That is a that's a funny joke about toxic masculinity, but
don't show it. But don't actually go ahead with that at least because then
with a character that wouldn't do it undercuts everything that you just said. So's
Lisa's going against everything she believes in order to be to fit in with these
people that she doesn't need to fit in with. It's like, yeah,
like I just I don't know, Yeah, don't beat up Ralph. It
reminded me of when um, this little Wiggie when they threw them in this
puddle and whatnot. It just wasn't fun at all. Lisa now fits in.
Now they're accepting it because she beat up the disabled child gets at the
montage, so she's playing guns? Whatnot? The people playing in Millhouse's eye
weird. He wears glasses, yes, well, and they're big glasses too,
but the plane was doing some loops. HiT's in the front of the
glasses coming coming on the upshot. He just got in underneath. Lisa then
wins yet Standing at cheap and Awards? And how long has she been at
the school? Four? She hasn't enrolled. She just she just snuck into
the Has there been a what the hell is going on here? What I
felt like? The Outstanding Achievement award hinted it there being a passage of time?
Okay, they haven't. They haven't indiscriminated amount of time. They haven't
asked where's Lisa at the girl's calling more? Well, they're too busy feeling
Yeah, She reveals herself, but claims it's because she was a boy,
That's why she's good at maths. Now, why's the auditorium in the same
room? Everything else is separated, but boys and girls are still in the
same auditorium. They're just divided. This the boys and the girls went in.
It was just the boys. Now the girls are there because the girls
were equally shocked, weren't they? Yeah, yeah, that's any more questions.
Trophy gets throne, hits Ralph again. Now she's been beaten up by
both Lisas or whatever. It's um poor Ralph not good. At least that
one was an accident. Yeah. Lisa then realized that boylife is more kle
than she. I don't. I don't. What is the lesson Lisa learns
from this episode? They try to play it off like she's learned a lesson.
Yeah, they try to do the South Park I've learned something today,
but she hasn't and I haven't. It's like, oh, boy's life isn't
as easy, and you know, isn't as what its cracked up to be.
I'm what what? What? What do you think this? What has
happened in this episode? What is her final? She says something on the
lines of that it's not as cruzies, it's all the lines. It's not
as cruzy as what she thought it was to be a boy? What have
I become? I always thought the boys had it easier. No he didn't.
You just thought the boys got to do maths. Yeah, um like
boys having it easier was never a point in this episode, nor hasn't ever
been a point with Lisa. But now I see their world is more cruel
and sadistic than I ever imagined. Yeah, boys cheering. Um I did
get better at math. He didn't. You just did the math that you
already knew. But it was only by abandoning everything that I believed in.
You didn't get better at math. You were just able to study math the
way you'd always been studying it. Well, that's right. Then they actually
do cut her off. So I guess the real reason we don't see many
women in maths and science is dot dot dot. Would you hurry it up?
Please? You're cutting into the award for best flouts. That's what I've
got. Do they have a message and then they forgot what it was.
Whatever the answer is, I'm glad I'm a girl, and I'm glad I'm
good at math. What happened? I don't get it. I get the
thing of they may be going with the reason that we don't see many women
women in maths and science, and then she gets cut off by a man,
So that could be the that they're going something there. Um, that's
the best I've got. I didn't actually look at it like that. That
could be the game he was going for. Yeah, yeah, but then
the flowers do not see much of it, do not see any criminally under
under estimated. And there's probably quite a number of examples throughout history of female
scientists whose um work went unnoticed or ignored for decades before a man looked at
it, before a man had the idea that someone else had. Basically,
but I don't understand. But if your point is that a men are holding
women back from learning mats, then why did you have a girl have to
become a boy in order to learn I guess No, yeah that work,
that works. Yeah, um, but the tracks from that women not is
that the women weren't trying to learn actly. That's why I'm like, I'm
confused. Yeah, the women aren't trying in this episode. Yeah yeah,
so yeah, like they show yeah, in the scenes where they should be
building up what is possible, they show the worst of it. They pander
to what the people of Skinner's viewpoint is. So like, here's this guy
who said this thing that's really stupid. But by the way, he was
right. But he's been punished he shouldn't have been, and now he just
thinks that he doesn't want to have opinions. I think they play enough too
much that how horrible boys are, Like, there are horrible boys and there
are horrible girls. Not all boys I like this, Yeah, not all
girls like that, and so on and so forth. The episode is over
swing and some sort of miss what do we learn? What'd you learn from
the episode, Mitch? That thirty four year old men shouldn't write from your
old girl about sexism? Yeah, that's probably it. Maybe the Simpsons Writer's
Room in two thousand and six was lacking in diversity. Thank you for listening
to a review of Girls Just Want to Have Sums. It was not a
fantastic episode. There are parts of it that I enjoyed, but the overall
story just left me befuddled. It just I don't think it knew what it
wanted to do. Word Yeah, berfuddled. Yeah, I enjoy perfuddled.
That's good. Probably the highlight of this episode. I thought I thought it
knew what it wanted to be, and by the end of it it was
like, I don't think it did. I don't think it had any fucking
clue what it wanted to be. What it founds like the angry It feels
like the angry manifesto of a postal worker before he goes into work and starts
killing all of the female employees. This is the kind of episode where you
really should have had a woman write it. It was directed by a woman,
but it was written by a male directed by a woman. Yeah,
directed by Nancy cruz Um. I would like it. I would honestly be
very interests funny. Her first episode should directed Simpson's Bible Stories. Wow,
I would read not a good team. Her and Matt not a good team.
I would really like to know in their heart of hearts what were they
trying to say? Yeah, because I want to believe in the best.
I'm sure he can explain something to us. Yeah, I just want to
know what happened to the school? How did it's going to get his job
back? How did home we get out of the actual doghouse? How did
he get out of the doghouse? Did he have to go via the couch?
You first have to apologize to Sound as a little helper, make his
way back to the couch, and then apologize to mar Just to get back
to the bed. You have to go back through the hierarchy. Just yeah,
where it was Maggie in all of this a bit of a mess.
Yeah, Maygie doesn't have it appeared maybe at the play. But hope you
enjoyed that set. How did they get the tickets? Look like a really
expensive play. I hope you thought that was your hundred dollars worth seth But
thank you so much for getting us for choosing that one. It was nice
to have Mitch back after six long seasons. As you were recording this February
fourth, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. Yeah, man, man, time
is flying. Imagine the things that is that will be different right now.
This, by the way, people Nostril has this episode is why you're not
hearing mentioned anymore, because it would just be a weekly rant. Yeah,
he hasn't got it in him. Yeah no, and you don't have it
in you like listeners don't have it in you. No, I'm like this.
I'm sure GLD could find a Probably, I'll be honest. If there
are people listening now, they probably never listened to the first ten seasons,
Like who the fuck is this guy? This could suddenly come in to shit
all over the show. Where's guy for his delightful charm? Yeah? Well
if you think, well, I'll tell you what if you think that,
if this is his attitude, he's not going to make it anywhere in the
podcast industry. I guarantee you that guy could put a positive bit on this
episode somehow. It's because he's a misogynist. Oh, any guys, were
any final words for listeners? Uh? Microphones are measured by women? Who
do you need to stop me? Now? I need to think of somewhere
to go with it. I was um trying to think of, like stay
on thame of this episode? No ending? Why? Why would why would
a woman invent a microphone too amplify the voice of the husband, But she
so dearly loves Let's everyone here, He's wisdom.