Fall is for Transplanting

<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Iconic Studio, a at proven winners
<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified radio
<v Speaker 1>podcast and YouTube show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick Weist,
<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, one of
<v Speaker 1>the fun things to do is impulsively buy some plants,
<v Speaker 1>not knowing where they're going to go, and the next
<v Speaker 1>scene you're walking around your yard with a plant in
<v Speaker 1>one hand a shovel in the other, wondering where you're
<v Speaker 1>going to put that plant. Many of these plants eventually
<v Speaker 1>have to move. Fall is a great time of the
<v Speaker 1>year to move these plants. I say bust to Move
<v Speaker 1>and bust to Move was a big hit song. It
<v Speaker 1>means to boogie or hit the road, leave someplace hastily.
<v Speaker 1>It was hip hop genre nineteen eighty nine Young MC
<v Speaker 1>and I loved Uncandy in the movie Uncle Buck when
<v Speaker 1>he dances to bust to Move. But regardless of that,
<v Speaker 1>there are many reasons to move plants this time of
<v Speaker 1>the year, but the number one reason to move a plant,
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, is usually because it's planted too close
<v Speaker 1>to the house, or it's being shaded by a tree
<v Speaker 1>or another plant. The goal in moving plants is to
<v Speaker 1>move a plant to a better location and minimize root loss.
<v Speaker 1>You provide optimal conditions for regrowth, so the ROI return
<v Speaker 1>on investment is good. Because if you don't move them,
<v Speaker 1>odds are you will have to remove them. So why
<v Speaker 1>not take a chance and bust a move. Many plants
<v Speaker 1>in my landscape Stacey are eligible for frequent Flyer miles.
<v Speaker 1>They've moved so many times.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that there is a assumption out
<v Speaker 2>there among people who don't really garden or plants a lot,
<v Speaker 2>that gardeners just get everything right the first time, and
<v Speaker 2>that is definitely not what happens. I have been a
<v Speaker 2>gardener for many years. I've known many gardeners, I have
<v Speaker 2>worked for many landscape designers, and I can tell you
<v Speaker 2>that a garden is never a you know, set it
<v Speaker 2>and forget it kind of thing. It is the way
<v Speaker 2>I see my garden, I've finally come to realize, is
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a never ending audition. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>you are looking at the you're casting the characters in
<v Speaker 2>your garden and figuring out where they're going to be
<v Speaker 2>set and what the scene is going to be, and
<v Speaker 2>and that never really ends. You know, you do have
<v Speaker 2>to keep a critical eye. And the fact is that
<v Speaker 2>most plants can actually withstand being moved pretty well. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>it will set them back, that is true. Some plants
<v Speaker 2>can deal with it better than others. But overall, most
<v Speaker 2>plants they're pretty okay being moved. And if you are
<v Speaker 2>going to be happier if that plan is moved for
<v Speaker 2>an of the reasons that you just mentioned, or just
<v Speaker 2>because you just think it should be at another place.
<v Speaker 2>And that's what happens to me a lot is you know,
<v Speaker 2>I get something, I put it in the garden, I
<v Speaker 2>get to know it, I start seeing, you know, how
<v Speaker 2>it really grows, because the way it looks in the
<v Speaker 2>container isn't necessarily representative of how it's actually going to
<v Speaker 2>be when it's in the ground, and I start to say,
<v Speaker 2>oh gee, well that would be better with, you know,
<v Speaker 2>combined with this plant, or I really need more of
<v Speaker 2>this color in this part of my garden, so I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to move some things around. And any of those
<v Speaker 2>are perfectly valid reasons to move stuff around.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I mean, we can debate timing, but I have
<v Speaker 1>rarely failed at moving a plant late in the season
<v Speaker 1>in fall, in October November. Maybe in some cases it's
<v Speaker 1>maybe not the best thing to do, but again, it's
<v Speaker 1>better than removing the plant all together and moving it
<v Speaker 1>to a better spot.
<v Speaker 2>I'd add, very often better than trying to prune it
<v Speaker 2>exactly to get it to fit into that spot. And
<v Speaker 2>I think that's people's first instinct often is I'll just
<v Speaker 2>cut this. But there are many plants that don't respond
<v Speaker 2>well to pruning or where all of the printing you're
<v Speaker 2>going to need to do is going to disfigure the plant,
<v Speaker 2>and you should just you know, kind of do what
<v Speaker 2>needs to be done and move it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. So move them at this time of
<v Speaker 1>the year because the plant is not going to be
<v Speaker 1>putting energy into generating top growth. The soil is warm
<v Speaker 1>and welcoming to new roots, and of course we get
<v Speaker 1>natural rainfall. Also, that's a totally different thing if you're
<v Speaker 1>going to be actually moving the plants to a new location.
<v Speaker 1>Let's say you've sold your home and putting them in pots.
<v Speaker 1>And in that case, if you know it's coming, it's
<v Speaker 1>a good idea to work around the plant with a
<v Speaker 1>sharp shovel, cutting into the roots and then walking away,
<v Speaker 1>watering the plant and hopefully over the course of a
<v Speaker 1>few months starting to establish some new hair roots before
<v Speaker 1>you put it into the pot. But in some cases
<v Speaker 1>that's just not possible. So watering the plant well and
<v Speaker 1>making sure that the plant is not under any drought
<v Speaker 1>stress before you move it, that's important. The other thing
<v Speaker 1>I do like to do is prune back plants when
<v Speaker 1>I move them. It makes it easier for you to
<v Speaker 1>move the plant, and there's less stress on the plant
<v Speaker 1>when you move it. My general rule of green thumb
<v Speaker 1>is take on woody plants, taking fifty percent off the
<v Speaker 1>top of the plant. Now that's just a rule of thumb,
<v Speaker 1>but again it reduces stress on the plant. Obviously, with perennials,
<v Speaker 1>we're going to dig and in some cases use the
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to divide and then replant. And then of course
<v Speaker 1>mulch is a very important thing to apply to these
<v Speaker 1>plants when you move them late in the season, especially perennials,
<v Speaker 1>because they can heave out of the ground if you
<v Speaker 1>have an area where there's going to be frost in
<v Speaker 1>the ground. As a matter of fact, I recommend you
<v Speaker 1>note on your calendar you got to do those winter
<v Speaker 1>walk arounds and inspections you got to get out of
<v Speaker 1>your recliner. I call mine a recliner, but you got
<v Speaker 1>to get out of that recliner, walk the yard, kind
<v Speaker 1>of press them back into the earth. Inspect in winter.
<v Speaker 1>If you're moving some larger plants, Stacy, I like the
<v Speaker 1>tarp and slide method. I have so much fun moving
<v Speaker 1>plants and scheming and late fall and say this is
<v Speaker 1>going to look better over here, and you prepare the
<v Speaker 1>soil in that area, just as if you were planting
<v Speaker 1>a new plant, and the other plant, which can be
<v Speaker 1>rather heavy, you can throw on a tarp after you
<v Speaker 1>dig it up and do the tarp and slide method.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sometimes you got to if it's a really big plant.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I am doing a lot of moving and
<v Speaker 2>transplanting this year. Obviously if you tune into us on YouTube,
<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of a couple videos about all
<v Speaker 2>of the renovations and stuff I'm doing in my garden.
<v Speaker 2>And I have to move two plants that are generally
<v Speaker 2>not recommended to move.
<v Speaker 1>Oh what are you moving?
<v Speaker 2>Summer of a hibiscus and decadence Baptisia oho. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>everything that I've read says that you should preferably move
<v Speaker 2>the baptisia in the spring, but I'm doing it in fall.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I often tell people you garden in
<v Speaker 2>the real world. You can sit there and read about
<v Speaker 2>all the ideals that you want, but ultimately you do
<v Speaker 2>garden in the real world. And to me, I've decided
<v Speaker 2>that I would rather move my baptisia in the fall
<v Speaker 2>and you know, give it plenty of chance to grow
<v Speaker 2>roots and hopefully maybe if I'm lucky, still get some
<v Speaker 2>flowers next year. And you know, most of the people,
<v Speaker 2>most are the things that I was reading, and I
<v Speaker 2>did not read anything about anything reliable that I would say,
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, this is definitely a definitive, you know, take
<v Speaker 2>on moving baptisia. You know, said the reasons that they
<v Speaker 2>say spring over fall is because of the potential for
<v Speaker 2>rot over winter. And I am not worried about that.
<v Speaker 2>In my extremely saying soil yes, and you know, so
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really concerned about that, And you know, I
<v Speaker 2>want to get this head start, so I am going
<v Speaker 2>ahead and taking the risk. I mean, if you've ever
<v Speaker 2>tried to move a baptisia, it is not simple. It
<v Speaker 2>is not easy, even in very sandy soil. So I'm
<v Speaker 2>not looking forward to it the task itself, but I
<v Speaker 2>am looking forward to the results.
<v Speaker 1>There you go a couple of suggestions. Espoma bioactive plant
<v Speaker 1>food with beneficial bacteria humates and Michael Risey that's something
<v Speaker 1>that I use for enhanced root development. So it's just
<v Speaker 1>a suggestion, but that is a product that I really like.
<v Speaker 1>It's a starter fertilizer that can be helpful. We mentioned
<v Speaker 1>the mulch. And also if you're going to do a
<v Speaker 1>lot of digging and digging some sizable holes, you may
<v Speaker 1>want to call eight one one, the call before you
<v Speaker 1>dig number not a bad idea, and of course that
<v Speaker 1>applies here in the UNI United States eight one one.
<v Speaker 2>And make sure you give them some notice. You can't
<v Speaker 2>just be like I'm doing this tomorrow. They do need
<v Speaker 2>some time because the various utilities do come out individually
<v Speaker 2>and mark your property. So if you're looking at doing
<v Speaker 2>some moving around, do it now call them now.
<v Speaker 1>Good advice. So we'll give you a move. My plant's
<v Speaker 1>limb a rick. I tried to cram a ten foot
<v Speaker 1>plant in an area far too scant. What was I thinking?
<v Speaker 1>That space seems to be shrinking and now it grows
<v Speaker 1>on a slant that bush. It has to go its
<v Speaker 1>boundaries overflow. I think a new location will be that
<v Speaker 1>plant's salvation before it starts to snow. A new location
<v Speaker 1>would behooved to let this shrub find its groove. Its
<v Speaker 1>eventual size wasn't foreseen. It's growing through my windows screen.
<v Speaker 1>It's got to bust a move. So let's get out
<v Speaker 1>there and move some plants. Let's see how Stacey ties
<v Speaker 1>this in with plants on trial that's coming up next
<v Speaker 1>here on the Gardening Simplified Show.
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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,
<v Speaker 2>where we are talking today about a topic that definitely
<v Speaker 2>mystifies a lot of people I know. In my years
<v Speaker 2>here working with gardeners who buy Proven Winners plants and
<v Speaker 2>trying to help them find the best success, I have
<v Speaker 2>heard from an awful lot of people who are like,
<v Speaker 2>can I move this? Should I move this? What are
<v Speaker 2>my chances for success? How can I set myself best
<v Speaker 2>for success. It's a very fraught thing. People, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they get very very nervous. If they kill a plant,
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be their fault. They're going to feel
<v Speaker 2>badly about it. And I don't think that for the
<v Speaker 2>most part, people give credit for plants as being as
<v Speaker 2>resilient as they actually are.
<v Speaker 1>As long as you can take as much of the
<v Speaker 1>root system along with you as you can, in most cases,
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be successful and do it at the
<v Speaker 1>right time of the year. And we're saying this is
<v Speaker 1>a good time of the year.
<v Speaker 2>To do it right for the same reason it's a
<v Speaker 2>good time to plant something new and fall. And my
<v Speaker 2>number one tip that I don't think it's discussed enough
<v Speaker 2>in terms of moving plants is prepare the new spot
<v Speaker 2>first as far as you can now. Of course, you
<v Speaker 2>don't know how big that root ball is going to
<v Speaker 2>be when you take it out. You can kind of
<v Speaker 2>roughly guess based on the overall size of the plants,
<v Speaker 2>but try to minimize the amount of time the plant
<v Speaker 2>spends out of the ground by digging that new hole first.
<v Speaker 2>As close as you can approximate it. Of course, you
<v Speaker 2>can still go in there and finesse it for what
<v Speaker 2>you're actually dealing with after the fact, but that is
<v Speaker 2>the that should be your number one step. Over well,
<v Speaker 2>your number one step should be watering it so it's
<v Speaker 2>not drought stress when you try to transplit. Number two
<v Speaker 2>step is to go ahead and get the new spot
<v Speaker 2>prepared as far as you possibly can, and then start
<v Speaker 2>digging the other plants.
<v Speaker 1>A great point, and keep the root shaded.
<v Speaker 2>Keep the rootshaded, yeah, like a piece of cheese cloth
<v Speaker 2>or an old sheet or something like that, just because
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't really see the little tiny root hars,
<v Speaker 2>but those will be sizzling and frying even if you're
<v Speaker 2>doing it on an overcast day because they're they're very sensitive.
<v Speaker 2>And another fun tip for you here for that I
<v Speaker 2>find very helpful when transplanting, especially larger things, is to
<v Speaker 2>take some old tights or nylons, or you can go
<v Speaker 2>to the dollar store and get them super cheap, and
<v Speaker 2>they're really nice. They're soft, they're springy, and you can
<v Speaker 2>use that to just tie your plant up into like
<v Speaker 2>a big ponytail, and you will get be able to
<v Speaker 2>get a lot closer into the plant to are digging it.
<v Speaker 2>It will make it a lot easier to move because
<v Speaker 2>you're handling the whole plant instead of just one stem
<v Speaker 2>which can easily break. So those are my top tips
<v Speaker 2>for transplanting. Now overall, I do think that shrubs are
<v Speaker 2>some of the easiest plants to move. You know, normally,
<v Speaker 2>if there is something that doesn't when people say, oh,
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't take well to transplanting, most often it's because
<v Speaker 2>the plant is tap rooted. So plants have two basic
<v Speaker 2>types of roots. They have fibrous root systems and there
<v Speaker 2>are tap root systems. And a taproot is pretty much
<v Speaker 2>just what it sounds like. You can more or less
<v Speaker 2>imagine like a carrot, and that is kind of more
<v Speaker 2>or less what's happening there. And because those tap roots
<v Speaker 2>are tend to be thick, they tend to be fleshy,
<v Speaker 2>they tend to be deep and very very difficult to
<v Speaker 2>keep intact as you dig, even in sandy soil like ours.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it can you know the sands, the soils
<v Speaker 2>collapsing back in on you. If you have clay soil,
<v Speaker 2>of course, that's just a lot of X you work
<v Speaker 2>and it makes the plant super super heavy.
<v Speaker 1>Try to move a yuckup plant.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, actually that's pretty easy. I've done that
<v Speaker 2>in our in our soil because of the sand. But
<v Speaker 2>but you will leave some behind, you know, But yuckas
<v Speaker 2>are super tough. So yeah, I don't I don't think
<v Speaker 2>you can kill a yucku maybe yeah, I don't even
<v Speaker 2>know if you could kill it through flooding. But anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so overall, shrubs have fibrous root systems that make them
<v Speaker 2>very easy to move. Plus they are multi stemmed. So
<v Speaker 2>even if there's some damage, which of course there will
<v Speaker 2>be no matter how careful you are, there's going to
<v Speaker 2>be some root damage. Shrubs deal very well with being
<v Speaker 2>cut back or you know, you could take out some
<v Speaker 2>of the stems to reduce the amount of you know,
<v Speaker 2>top growth that you have, because of course, the roots
<v Speaker 2>and the top growth grow in proportion to one another.
<v Speaker 2>So if you have reduced the roots, you should ideally
<v Speaker 2>reduce the top to kind of compensate for that root loss,
<v Speaker 2>as Rick said, But of course, even among shrubs, there
<v Speaker 2>are some exceptions. Although today's plant on trial is one
<v Speaker 2>of those exceptions, it's also not exactly a shrub. The
<v Speaker 2>plant on trial today is diamond ball clemitis, and this
<v Speaker 2>is a plant that is in the proven Winter's color
<v Speaker 2>choice shrubs line because it is a woody clematis. So
<v Speaker 2>some clemitists that stand by me cleminists from proven winters,
<v Speaker 2>those are perennial. They actually die back completely to the ground,
<v Speaker 2>so there's nothing left above ground over winter and they
<v Speaker 2>come back from the roots the following year, whereas the
<v Speaker 2>woody vining clematists like we sell like diamond ball, actually
<v Speaker 2>create a very thin but woody stem and that's what
<v Speaker 2>vines and twines around. And overall, Clematis are plants that
<v Speaker 2>you definitely want to plant in their final destination.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and who doesn't love clematis or clematis I'm good
<v Speaker 1>either way. We can't pronounce it, but who doesn't. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like not loving coffee or chocolate or.
<v Speaker 2>Pizza, right, I mean they are beautiful. I think a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people feel very frustrated about clematis because of
<v Speaker 2>the roots. So these same qualities that make it a
<v Speaker 2>plant that's difficult to transplant also make it a plant
<v Speaker 2>that's difficult to kind of make it happy. And so
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about it on the show before. But the
<v Speaker 2>roots of colmatis are not really like anything else that
<v Speaker 2>you see, and all you have to do is plant
<v Speaker 2>one and you will get it an up close and
<v Speaker 2>personal look at what this actually means. So they're very
<v Speaker 2>very thick, they're very fleshy, and they almost look like ropes.
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think of a corollary when I
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about this for today's show. They're a little
<v Speaker 2>bit like the brace roots on corn. So if you've
<v Speaker 2>ever grown corn, corn has two types of roots. It
<v Speaker 2>has fibrous roots that it starts to help absorb nutrients,
<v Speaker 2>and then it creates these thick, fleshy brace roots anchor
<v Speaker 2>roots that help it prevent from going in the winter.
<v Speaker 2>And it's very much like that with clematis. Like diamond
<v Speaker 2>ball woody clemtist have this base of the plant and
<v Speaker 2>it just has this kind of like octopus tentacle like
<v Speaker 2>outgrowth of roots coming from it. Now, those thick and
<v Speaker 2>fleshy roots establish very very well throughout the soil, and
<v Speaker 2>so you have to it's they're also quite brittle, so
<v Speaker 2>trying to dig them is very hard. You also don't
<v Speaker 2>have the predictability like you have with something like if
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to move say a nine bark or something
<v Speaker 2>like that, where you say, okay, this is roughly the
<v Speaker 2>space that this plant takes up. You know, the clematis
<v Speaker 2>is vining and winding and going all over the place,
<v Speaker 2>so it's much harder to tell, like what that diameter
<v Speaker 2>of the root system is. And then finally, because those
<v Speaker 2>roots are so thick and fleshy, they take a lot
<v Speaker 2>of energy for the plant to grow and produce. So
<v Speaker 2>if they are damaged, and again no matter how careful
<v Speaker 2>you are, they are going to be damaged somewhat takes
<v Speaker 2>a long time for it to recover from any damage
<v Speaker 2>because it takes so much more energy. Do you create
<v Speaker 2>those roots?
<v Speaker 1>We should say, Stacey that if you're planting a new
<v Speaker 1>clematis or clematis, this is one of those plants that's
<v Speaker 1>notorious for being a sleep creep leaf plant. Probably the
<v Speaker 1>same case if.
<v Speaker 2>You move it, absolutely same kind of thing that so
<v Speaker 2>sleep clean sleep creep leap takes the plant a while
<v Speaker 2>to develop a good roots system and begin to perform
<v Speaker 2>well for the same reason. So overall, these are just
<v Speaker 2>plants that just need to put a lot of resources
<v Speaker 2>into their roots. Now, I could have picked any of
<v Speaker 2>the proven Winter's Clematists proven Winter's color choice woody clematists
<v Speaker 2>to discuss for today's plan on trial. But I picked
<v Speaker 2>diamond Ball. It's a really interesting clematist. So it has big,
<v Speaker 2>kind of round ball like flowers. It's very doubled, so
<v Speaker 2>highly doubled they almost look like a dahlia really or
<v Speaker 2>something like that. And the flowers are just this beautiful, cool,
<v Speaker 2>icy blue color. You really have to see it to
<v Speaker 2>believe it. And I was inspired today thinking about the
<v Speaker 2>clemitis and a planting that we used to have in
<v Speaker 2>our trial garden where we had a black lace elderberry
<v Speaker 2>and a diamond ball clematis had been allowed to kind
<v Speaker 2>of wind and grow its way through the black lace elderberry,
<v Speaker 2>and the contrast of the icy bluey purple flowers on
<v Speaker 2>diamond bull clematis with a black foliage of the elderberry
<v Speaker 2>was just absolutely beautiful. And so this goes back to
<v Speaker 2>one of those things where you might just say, well, gee,
<v Speaker 2>I have a diamond ball clematist. It's not like doing
<v Speaker 2>that great or I'm not that happy with it, and
<v Speaker 2>you might want to try something else, and you might
<v Speaker 2>want to attempt to transplant a clemitist. Now again, after
<v Speaker 2>everything that I've just said, these are just things you
<v Speaker 2>need to be aware of. I'm not saying it's impossible
<v Speaker 2>to successfully transplant a clematist, but it is something that
<v Speaker 2>is definitely not recommended. So if you're thinking about adding one,
<v Speaker 2>I would say, consider you using a plant that you
<v Speaker 2>already have in your garden as its structure, rather than
<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to get it growing up something else
<v Speaker 2>that you might have to change or move or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>It's just a great way to get a lot more
<v Speaker 2>impact out of a little bit of space. So just
<v Speaker 2>to thought there, if you do want to try moving clemenis,
<v Speaker 2>I would definitely try that in the fall so that
<v Speaker 2>it had a chance to you know, regrow those roots
<v Speaker 2>and recover before tests. To think about, you know, growing
<v Speaker 2>out in the spring. And of course anytime you transplant
<v Speaker 2>something this is important make sure you give it extra
<v Speaker 2>time in spring to leaf out. If you're transplanting in fall,
<v Speaker 2>it very often will take longer to leaf out than
<v Speaker 2>it would have if it had just been undisturbed. But briefly,
<v Speaker 2>since we are talking about diamondball cleminists specifically, you can
<v Speaker 2>see pictures of it on YouTube or in our show
<v Speaker 2>notes at Gardening Simplified on Air dot Com. It's going
<v Speaker 2>to find to roughly four to five feet tall and wide,
<v Speaker 2>hard to USDA zones four through nine, generally pretty dear
<v Speaker 2>resistant kind of plant. And of course well soil is essential,
<v Speaker 2>so don't even think about planting or transplanting a columbus,
<v Speaker 2>and then you can give it very well drained soil.
<v Speaker 1>And like any clematists, you want to mulch at the base, right.
<v Speaker 2>Got a mulch, Although the nice thing is if you
<v Speaker 2>plant it adjacent to a shrub like I was just
<v Speaker 2>talking about with the black lace, that can kind of
<v Speaker 2>also function to shade those roots and keep the plant happy.
<v Speaker 2>So check it out Gardening Simplified on Air dot Com.
<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a little break. When we come back,
<v Speaker 2>we've got the garden mail bags, so please stay tuned.
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<v Speaker 2>a photo. And you know, I know that today's topic
<v Speaker 2>of moving plants is one that people do have a
<v Speaker 2>lot of questions on. And you know, I very typically,
<v Speaker 2>very often have said on the show when in doubt,
<v Speaker 2>don't And I think when it comes to moving plants,
<v Speaker 2>because you do. When you are moving a plant, it's
<v Speaker 2>usually because you have discovered that you know, again, like
<v Speaker 2>you said, it's too big for the area, it's not
<v Speaker 2>doing well, it's not doing as well as you had hoped,
<v Speaker 2>and you think that if it has more sun or
<v Speaker 2>more better drained soil or whatever, that it will do better.
<v Speaker 2>Or you just want to see it in a different
<v Speaker 2>location in your garden. You don't feel like the location
<v Speaker 2>that you originally chose is doing it justice. And you
<v Speaker 2>can take it from Rick and myself that that is
<v Speaker 2>something that happens all the time to gardeners. So you
<v Speaker 2>know you have to all also use your best judgment,
<v Speaker 2>and so you have to kind of think about what
<v Speaker 2>are the parameters that like, what would go into moving
<v Speaker 2>it now, what are the advantages and disadvantage, what are
<v Speaker 2>the risks, what are the benefits versus doing something in spring,
<v Speaker 2>and kind of make a decision based on that. I
<v Speaker 2>know that's not always easy, but if you do have
<v Speaker 2>a question, you can always reach us. And I specifically
<v Speaker 2>picked a bunch of questions about moving plants today.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great, and yeah, Cheryl Crow had that great
<v Speaker 1>song A change will do you good. I find that
<v Speaker 1>often with plants. Sometimes if a plant is struggling, if
<v Speaker 1>I move it, I change its environment, it responds.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's different conditions.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Amy writes to us, would it be
<v Speaker 1>better to move my summerrific high biscus in the fall
<v Speaker 1>or spring?
<v Speaker 2>Great? Question could not be better timed, Amy, since I
<v Speaker 2>am moving a number of summer high biscus myself this fall,
<v Speaker 2>and I am doing it in fall simply because that's
<v Speaker 2>when I have time. And that is often a case
<v Speaker 2>if you have a big garden and have a lot
<v Speaker 2>of different plants. You sometimes move things just when you
<v Speaker 2>have time to do it. And also I feel that
<v Speaker 2>the summerific Hibiscus will benefit from the establishment period for
<v Speaker 2>rooting in the fall, and that will set them up
<v Speaker 2>for a less disappointing from my perspective summer because they're
<v Speaker 2>going to have more rooting time. Or for if I
<v Speaker 2>do it in spring, you know, they're they're starting to grow,
<v Speaker 2>They've they're like, what just happened to me? I just
<v Speaker 2>lost a bunch of roots, Whereas now they can kind
<v Speaker 2>of recover from that, and they will have several weeks
<v Speaker 2>to recover. But of course if you do it in spring,
<v Speaker 2>that is perfectly fine. I have certainly transplanted summarific Hibiscus
<v Speaker 2>in spring, no problem. They didn't necessarily flower super well
<v Speaker 2>that following season, which is again normal, Like you have
<v Speaker 2>to expect when you put a plant through this that
<v Speaker 2>there is going to be some kind of drawback. But
<v Speaker 2>usually I would say I have seen thing bounce back,
<v Speaker 2>you know, after their first year.
<v Speaker 1>And if you move them right now, air temperatures cooled down.
<v Speaker 1>It's cooling down. It's not the heat of summer, but
<v Speaker 1>the soil's nice and warm, it'll establish roots. I agree
<v Speaker 1>with you. They're off to the races.
<v Speaker 2>In summer, right, so Amy, I would say, from a
<v Speaker 2>plant health perspective, both fall and spring are equally good
<v Speaker 2>for some horrific hibiscus. So base it on when you
<v Speaker 2>have time as your schedule allows.
<v Speaker 1>Joan writes to us five years ago, I planted a
<v Speaker 1>Japanese maple and a nine bark next to each other
<v Speaker 1>or near each other. Now it is a big block
<v Speaker 1>of red in my garden. Which one should I move?
<v Speaker 1>They are both beautiful.
<v Speaker 2>Ah, she has a real dilemma of paris here. So
<v Speaker 2>I would say, unequivocally move the nine bark. You know,
<v Speaker 2>as I said when I was talking about plants on trial.
<v Speaker 2>As I said when I was talking about plants on trial,
<v Speaker 2>shrubs generally how a fibrous root system. Because they are
<v Speaker 2>multi stemmed, they can recover from being moved a lot
<v Speaker 2>more easily than a single stemmed tree. Is I mean,
<v Speaker 2>think about when you go to a garden center, most
<v Speaker 2>of the shrubs are being grown in containers, and most
<v Speaker 2>of those trees very often are still in ball and
<v Speaker 2>burlap situation. So that kind of shows you that to
<v Speaker 2>move a tree, it's a bigger job. Trees generally have
<v Speaker 2>much bigger, more broad ranging root systems than shrubs do.
<v Speaker 2>Trees also tend to put out big, thick anchor roots
<v Speaker 2>that if those get damaged or though when you're moving something,
<v Speaker 2>you're really going to have some trouble on your hand.
<v Speaker 2>So I would say in this case, the Japanese maple
<v Speaker 2>is going to be far more sensitive to being moved
<v Speaker 2>than the nine bark, which is just going to probably
<v Speaker 2>not even skip a beat. If anything, you'll probably be
<v Speaker 2>grateful that it did get slightly set back because nine
<v Speaker 2>bar can be extremely vigorous shrubs.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and a Japanese maple is going to be more
<v Speaker 1>difficult for you to move than a nine bark. A
<v Speaker 1>nine bark you could prune back hard. A nine bark
<v Speaker 1>will respond well to pruning full agreement, move the nine bark.
<v Speaker 2>So if you find yourself in a similar situation to Joan,
<v Speaker 2>definitely opt for the shrub instead of a tree. You
<v Speaker 2>will be glad that you did.
<v Speaker 1>Stacy Valerie's asking us about let's see interested in knowing
<v Speaker 1>more about the shrubby horse chestnut tree you showed on
<v Speaker 1>one of your episodes.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well I could not resist asking or answering valeries
<v Speaker 2>question here And this was in a garden tour, So
<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it was in a garden tour
<v Speaker 2>that we did this year. I think it was one
<v Speaker 2>that we did last year when Reckon I went out
<v Speaker 2>to our trial gardens and I talked about one of
<v Speaker 2>my favorite favorite plants that is in our trial gardens.
<v Speaker 2>It is not a proven winner's plant, and it is
<v Speaker 2>ess parvaflora, the bottle brush buckeye, and oh it is
<v Speaker 2>one of my all time top five favorite plants. Absolutely
<v Speaker 2>love this thing. It is a native shrub and it's
<v Speaker 2>so it's most people, I think think of buckeyes as trees,
<v Speaker 2>which is not wrong, but this is actually a shrubby
<v Speaker 2>kind of suckering one. And the way that it has
<v Speaker 2>grown in our trial garden is it almost creates kind
<v Speaker 2>of like a little space underneath. And when this thing
<v Speaker 2>is in flower, oh my gosh, it just puts out
<v Speaker 2>these like two foot long flower spikes that are fragrant,
<v Speaker 2>absolutely swarming with pollinators. And then those flowers become buckeyes.
<v Speaker 2>And who doesn't love to pick up a nice buckeye
<v Speaker 2>and walk around with that in your hand. It's it's something.
<v Speaker 1>Well, we do have to tell folks from all over Canada,
<v Speaker 1>across the world here in the United States that in
<v Speaker 1>Michigan the Buckeyes subjects a little bit sensitive. There's this
<v Speaker 1>real rivalry between Michigan and Ohio and sometimes things can
<v Speaker 1>get just downright deflorable.
<v Speaker 2>Well that is true, but I'm not talking about the
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State football team. I am talking about the plant
<v Speaker 2>known as buckeye, scientifically known as esculus uh. And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's a great plant. Now, this is a plan I
<v Speaker 2>have to say. I don't have one in my garden
<v Speaker 2>because it is just too big. They are huge and
<v Speaker 2>they start to sucker and form a big, big colony
<v Speaker 2>over a wide area of space. So I don't, unfortunately
<v Speaker 2>have room for it. And that's also why you typically
<v Speaker 2>don't see it in garden centers is because it's really
<v Speaker 2>just one of those plants. It's you know, too big
<v Speaker 2>for most yards. But if you have a native plant
<v Speaker 2>nursery near you, they might sell it. You might be
<v Speaker 2>able to find one online. And if you have a space,
<v Speaker 2>well I'm jealous because it is easily one of my
<v Speaker 2>favorite plants.
<v Speaker 1>So Fore, people keeping score at home. Can you give
<v Speaker 1>us that botanical name again?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's Esculus parva flora, the bottlebrush.
<v Speaker 1>Buckeye Aesculus parva flora. That's beautiful.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a beautiful plant too.
<v Speaker 1>I love it all right. Mary writes to us, could
<v Speaker 1>you address monarch butterflies and milkweed plants native to our area?
<v Speaker 1>That would help them. I'd love to do my part
<v Speaker 1>in my small backyard. Sorry to see them on the
<v Speaker 1>endangered list. I came across this website, found it helpful.
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, so, Mary writes to us, And boy,
<v Speaker 1>this is a topic that's right in my wheelhouse, Stacey,
<v Speaker 1>because I have monarchs just all over my yard, and
<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of native so that'd be Esclepias syriaca. Yeah, Syriacus, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>syriacus here along the lake shore in Michigan.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So there are a number of native milkweeds out there,
<v Speaker 2>and escapist siriacus, of course, is the one that is
<v Speaker 2>most widespread. That is not one you typically see for
<v Speaker 2>sale because you kind of can't not grow it. And
<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons that I really wanted to address
<v Speaker 2>Mary's question is because everyone wants to plant milkweed. But
<v Speaker 2>milkweed is not a plant that does well under nursery production.
<v Speaker 2>And so what happens is people go into the nursery
<v Speaker 2>with grandiose ideas if they're going to plant a milkweed garden,
<v Speaker 2>and then they get there and they're like, ooh, these
<v Speaker 2>plants look awful. I'm not growing this thing. But the
<v Speaker 2>fact is it just does not do well. And the
<v Speaker 2>reason that milkweed does not do well in containers in
<v Speaker 2>a nursery production environment is because it is a tap root.
<v Speaker 2>So on our show all about moving plants, milkweed are
<v Speaker 2>plants that you should not move. They don't take well
<v Speaker 2>to moving because again of that tap roop. So, Mary,
<v Speaker 2>my advice to you would actually be to get seed now.
<v Speaker 2>If you're trying to just grow our native milkweed, which
<v Speaker 2>is great for monarchs, again, you can just go and
<v Speaker 2>take a handful of those and you can plant that
<v Speaker 2>seed right now where you on it to grow, and
<v Speaker 2>it will. Trust me, you will have milkweed next year.
<v Speaker 2>But if you have friends with milkweed, or you can
<v Speaker 2>find other milkweeds in a place where you can collect
<v Speaker 2>the seed, Like I'm thinking of our native orange milkweed
<v Speaker 2>Esclepias tubarosa. The best thing you can do is to
<v Speaker 2>start those from seeds. So if you can order some,
<v Speaker 2>fall would be a great time to plant those. You
<v Speaker 2>could also plant them in spring if you prefer. And
<v Speaker 2>they're pretty easy to plant. The seeds are easy to handle.
<v Speaker 2>And I have grown Escleapias tu barosa from seed successfully
<v Speaker 2>and it's done really really well.
<v Speaker 1>And here on YouTube or on the website if you're
<v Speaker 1>listening to the radio or podcast, I'm going to share
<v Speaker 1>a picture of milkweed seed, a picture I took on
<v Speaker 1>the beach recently of a milkweed pod breaking open. Love milkweed.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's such a cool plant, fabulous and I can't
<v Speaker 2>personally resist if I'm walking in the woods or a
<v Speaker 2>field or whatever, I can't resist exit tappen them and
<v Speaker 2>sending that fluff the parachute.
<v Speaker 1>Love that which has a great story behind it too.
<v Speaker 2>Someday we'll tech, we'll get into that. So Mary, lots
<v Speaker 2>of great choices. We have a number of native milkweeds
<v Speaker 2>to Michigan. But again, get your seed grown from seed.
<v Speaker 2>You will be a lot happier with the results and
<v Speaker 2>the cost. So we're going to take a little break.
<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we've got branching news, so please
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for
<v Speaker 1>branching news. And today we've talked about moving plants in
<v Speaker 1>your landscape, and it got me to thinking about moving.
<v Speaker 1>And I had recently seen a survey that well, it
<v Speaker 1>caught my eye and the survey the essentially said one
<v Speaker 1>in four Americans consider moving to be a more stressful
<v Speaker 1>endeavor than landing a plane in an emergency.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you had me into landing a plane
<v Speaker 2>and emergency. No, I would much rather move. I agree.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's totally ridiculous. However, that's what the survey says.
<v Speaker 1>A recent survey of Americans who have moved in the
<v Speaker 1>last five years investigated the overwhelming task of moving and
<v Speaker 1>found that more than a few startling answers to some
<v Speaker 1>moving related would you rathers came up. Respondents rated moving
<v Speaker 1>as more overwhelming than losing a job, switching careers, and
<v Speaker 1>even running for president. Now, I don't know how many
<v Speaker 1>people have run for president or how they'd know what
<v Speaker 1>it's like to run for president, but that's out there.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, they really hate moving.
<v Speaker 1>I guess. So the average America has already moved five
<v Speaker 1>times in their lifetime, expect to move three more times
<v Speaker 1>in the future. So that's a lot of digging up
<v Speaker 1>of plants and moving them. And let me mention that
<v Speaker 1>any good realtor also is going to remind you that
<v Speaker 1>if you sell your house, you can't just dig up
<v Speaker 1>those plants and take them along with you. You can't
<v Speaker 1>do that unless you've noted that in the agreement prior
<v Speaker 1>to closing the sale on the house. It's tempting to
<v Speaker 1>bring along those babies. I know in my life when
<v Speaker 1>I've moved, generally the fam you know, it's we got
<v Speaker 1>everything cleared out, the families inside the house, reminiscing, thinking
<v Speaker 1>about all the wonderful memories Christmases past, that sort of thing,
<v Speaker 1>getting emotional about leaving this home I'm outside in the
<v Speaker 1>garden getting emotional and saying goodbye to my plan. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's just the way you do.
<v Speaker 2>See that in certain real estate listings, seller reserves the
<v Speaker 2>right to certain plantings, that kind of thing. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I would do that now if I moved. I never
<v Speaker 2>had to do that because I didn't. I was renting
<v Speaker 2>before I moved in this house, so I didn't have to.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if I move now. But I also think
<v Speaker 2>that probably my garden would be a detriment to any
<v Speaker 2>prospective buyer. They would just be like, there are too
<v Speaker 2>many plants.
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that before from people buying my home, And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you drive by a year later and seventy five percent
<v Speaker 1>of the plants are gone.
<v Speaker 2>So their loss.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's hard. So yeah, you just you're out there
<v Speaker 1>and you're getting kind of emotional about the whole process.
<v Speaker 1>But yes, anything that's a fixed has to stay unless
<v Speaker 1>it's noted in the agreement. So for example, if you
<v Speaker 1>have one of those basketball hoops that you can roll around,
<v Speaker 1>well you can take that with you, but if it's
<v Speaker 1>in the ground, it stays. The poll revealed that the
<v Speaker 1>average American feels anxiety, excitement those topped the list of
<v Speaker 1>emotions felt during the moving process. Joy, hope, and dread
<v Speaker 1>were also on the list. So just fascinating stuff as
<v Speaker 1>it relates to moving. Here's an interesting news story in
<v Speaker 1>Idaho man and I want to try this, and Idaho
<v Speaker 1>man walked over one thousand, one hundred feet with a
<v Speaker 1>running lawnmower on his chin. It's amazing to see. We're
<v Speaker 1>going to put the link at the website Gardeningsimplified on
<v Speaker 1>air dot com. And I throw this in here because
<v Speaker 1>it's probably something for most people they've never thought of.
<v Speaker 2>I would say that I certainly haven't.
<v Speaker 1>Serial record breaker David Rush took a seventy eight foot
<v Speaker 1>and five point seventy three inch walk with a running
<v Speaker 1>lawn balanced on his chin to break a world record.
<v Speaker 1>He's the holder of the most concurrent Guinness World Record titles.
<v Speaker 1>Using an electric more to attempt the record at a
<v Speaker 1>track in Boise, Idaho. The record to beat was two
<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty four feet, so he smashed it. He
<v Speaker 1>struggled with wins after surpassing the previous record and would
<v Speaker 1>have kept going, but the breeze finally pushed the mower
<v Speaker 1>off his face. An assistant walking alongside. Rush quickly cut
<v Speaker 1>the power to the mower as it fell. So new
<v Speaker 1>world record balancing a lawnmower on your chin.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that that is worth the risk of injury.
<v Speaker 2>I agree, was there a blade in it? I was running?
<v Speaker 2>But did they say that, yes, but there doesn't have
<v Speaker 2>to be a blade in it?
<v Speaker 1>Good point. I better go back and sure.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious because it's true.
<v Speaker 1>What is your motivation? I wouldn't really want to be
<v Speaker 1>in the Guinness Book of World Records that much, not
<v Speaker 1>for that mister Rush does. So there you go. How
<v Speaker 1>about a horticultural history moment. Robert Prince founded the Prince
<v Speaker 1>Nursery in seventeen thirty seven, So this is something to
<v Speaker 1>look up, maybe do a little study on, because this
<v Speaker 1>is a nursery that operated for one hundred and thirty
<v Speaker 1>years until eighteen sixty five. And if you think eighteen
<v Speaker 1>sixty five, well, Civil War period and families of course
<v Speaker 1>were torn apart and that probably was the demise of it.
<v Speaker 1>But it was the first major commercial nursery in the
<v Speaker 1>United States. It was responsible for importing plants from Europe,
<v Speaker 1>sending American plants abroad, especially during the seventeen twenties, thirties forties.
<v Speaker 1>Really interesting how the Prince family there would write letters
<v Speaker 1>to see captains asking for their help obtaining new plants
<v Speaker 1>for I'm abroad. And then of course some very famous
<v Speaker 1>people visited the nursery. President George Washington visited the nursery,
<v Speaker 1>also Thomas Jefferson, So it was a big deal at
<v Speaker 1>the time. And they had the first known ads for
<v Speaker 1>nursery plants and the first catalog which was published in
<v Speaker 1>seventeen seventy one. So the Prince Nursery, So this would
<v Speaker 1>be in New York, the first garden center, nursery, greenhouse,
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it that we all love
<v Speaker 1>to shop at there in history, founded in seventeen thirty seven.
<v Speaker 1>So just something fun to read about in research.
<v Speaker 2>Did they sell in chimes.
<v Speaker 1>They didn't sell wind chimes. They probably they didn't sell
<v Speaker 1>barberries or cannas well.
<v Speaker 2>They could have. I suppose it's possible.
<v Speaker 1>I guess they were really big into fruit trees, and
<v Speaker 1>of course that was the big thing at the time.
<v Speaker 2>Well you need you know, it was not a luxury,
<v Speaker 2>it was a necessity then, and you know, water wasn't drinkable,
<v Speaker 2>so everybody was drinking cider. You got it, got to
<v Speaker 2>have your own supply.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. As a matter of fact, Thomas Jefferson broke away
<v Speaker 1>to visit the nursery and indicated for whatever reason, that
<v Speaker 1>he was taking this trip for health reasons. Yeah, there
<v Speaker 1>you go. Fall is synonymous with the roasted vegetables season.
<v Speaker 1>Do you like roasted?
<v Speaker 2>Love them?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? After months of only craving salads, we want tender
<v Speaker 1>caramelized vegetables, roasted root vegetables, anyone, it's the season. Mix
<v Speaker 1>and match carrots, parsnips, sweet potatoes, beats, turnips, root of begas.
<v Speaker 1>A British man broke a Guinness World record with a
<v Speaker 1>thirteen pound root vegetable called a solariac. Oh, it's either
<v Speaker 1>weight or length for a giant vegetable. But it's not beauty.
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty ugly, as he joked in a BBC radio interview.
<v Speaker 1>But that's a root vegetable that you don't hear a
<v Speaker 1>lot about.
<v Speaker 2>No, it's more popular in like Germany. They use it
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of German food and it's delicious. I
<v Speaker 2>do like it, but man, I tell you, they are
<v Speaker 2>pretty obsessed with growing giant vegetables in the Ukay, we've
<v Speaker 2>got our giant pumpkins. That's like the US thing. But
<v Speaker 2>over there it's like you can grow the biggest onion.
<v Speaker 2>Who can grow the biggest it's a brew of baga.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the biggest cucumber. Yeah, it's a big deal there. Finally,
<v Speaker 1>leave the leaves moment raking up. Of course, my good
<v Speaker 1>friend Neil Sedaka always saying raking up is hard to do.
<v Speaker 1>And unless you've been living under a pile of leaves,
<v Speaker 1>you've no doubt heard about the leave the leaves movement
<v Speaker 1>that's been gaining popularity in recent years. Now it's not
<v Speaker 1>practical to leave the leaves on a lawn. It's going
<v Speaker 1>to smother the lawn, especially under snow. Now you can
<v Speaker 1>grind up the leaves and be successful. I find up
<v Speaker 1>quite a few leaves. If you have a good more
<v Speaker 1>with a ninja blade on it more, which will basically
<v Speaker 1>take the leaves and cut them into fine pieces, then
<v Speaker 1>you can be successful with it. But there's this real
<v Speaker 1>movement of leaving the leaves for beneficial insects. And when
<v Speaker 1>you think about it again, as far as our yards
<v Speaker 1>are concerned, you'll see some yards where it's just cleaned
<v Speaker 1>up meticulously, and it is arguable that that's not necessarily natural.
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely not natural. Some people prefer that, and they
<v Speaker 2>just have this idea in their head that, like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>when winter comes, the garden should be a wasteland, and
<v Speaker 2>it's not really like that exactly. I leave the leaves.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't have a lot to worry about anymore,
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I would just mow right before. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's better for every It's free fertilizer, especially when you
<v Speaker 2>have lean, sandy soils like ours.
<v Speaker 1>I recommend people go out and collect leaves like I
<v Speaker 1>do in the fall and use them, grind them up
<v Speaker 1>and use them in your garden and landscape. Yes, money
<v Speaker 1>does grow on trees. Thank you Stacey, it's been fun.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Adrianna, and thanks most of all to you.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching us on YouTube, listening to the podcast,
<v Speaker 1>listening to us on radio. Make sure to visit our website,
<v Speaker 1>Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. Have a great week.