Ep:78 The Beast Of Pearl River

I think he was very familiar with you know, would he call him the
old guy or big old guy when he would make this call. It would
come up to the river bank making all kinds of noise and throwing branches around.
And that's kind of similar to what I had happened to me later on.
It's all flooded most of the year, and it's really only accessible like
certain times a year, especially during hunting season. Is one year you can
get in there the water's low enough to be able to at least walk around
and hunt. It's kind of like a little island that's all surrounded by water
and slough. So I was sitting in this field, you know, all
surrounded by water. You can't really see anything at this moment, you know,
I can start to hear something walking from the other side of this little
slough, and two minutes, three minutes go by, and can still kind
of hear it walking walking on and slowly I hear whatever it is enter the
opposite side of the bayou, kind of coming towards us on the other side
and this little island, and by this time I've already like looked at my
buddy. That's twenty five yards on the opposite side of me, so I'm
kind of closer to whatever the creature is. I turn around and I'm looking
at him and his eyes are huge, and he's like, what is that?
So it, you know, it proceeds to come, you know,
further through the water, you know, comes up to the other side.
There's like a little embankment, and as soon as it comes out that embankment,
I mean, you just hear dripping. So I'm like, oh my
god, what is this? Like this is big? Like this is this
is big. I'd like to welcome David to Bigfoot Crossroads. Man, this
is kind of a weird one for me. How you came to be on
Bigfoot Crossroads is a pretty crazy story. I guess. A while back,
I had Alexander Petacavan. He's a filmmaker makes documentaries about Bigfoot for small town
monsters, and as the legend goes, he was going to work on a
film in the Honey Island Swamp and you had listened to that episode and heard
him talking about it and then reached out to him when he just happened to
be in the Honey Island Swamp area making the film that he talked about on
that episode. Yeah, like crazy coincidence and timing for sure. Yeah,
synchronicity at its finest. Yeah, and like the funny, I guess the
fun this thing about it was he had done because he had had some issues
trying to make like a plan for his trip here whenever we found out that
that we had some high water situations that he wasn't able to get into the
small Yeah, so he's like, Okay, well I'm gonna head out to
another part of the state and do some some more research. And I guess
in that amount of time, I was able to like DM him on Instagram
and say, you know, hey, man, I heard this podcast that
you're on and I think it was probably two months had been recorded two or
three months before. I just happened to hear it, you know, driving
in the car one day and I was like, well, shoot, I'm
just gonna send this guy a message, you know, and see if he
gets back to me, you know, And I don't even think it was
maybe twelve hours. I'm like, holy crap, Like he got back to
me. And then as I'm reading it, you know, he's like,
wow, you know, you know, I can't believe you heard that.
Like I don't even remember mentioning anything about the Honey Island really, and I
think because like I at the time, I had a job where I was
I did deliveries, so I was like, oh my god, I need
to pull over right now and message him like before I forget. So,
yeah, it was kind of funny. There was a couple of things that
really interested me about your story, So let's just get right into it.
I doubt all the listeners have seen the Honey Island Swamp Monster documentary that Alex
did, So if you don't mind just kind of going through your story for
me, Yeah, for sure. And I guess you know, my first
kind of experience I had was I think about twenty seventeen, and and all
of my experiences I've been centered around hunting and fishing, so I mean that's
usually the reason why you know, I'm in the swamper in that area.
So and actually, whenever we did a little bit of filming that night or
we did the interview, actually like in the area that I had one of
one of the experiences, and we ended up not really doing too much that
night because I mean it was like we were getting destroyed by mosquitoes, you
know, what I mean, it was. It was pretty intense. But
so you know that that time, I was was coming back from a little
hunting trip bill hunting, and I was I was leaving, you know.
So we had this wildlife management area that we all, you know, kind
of hunt in this area. I'm pretty well known. Pearl River Wildlife Management
Area is kind of the most well known one that we hunt. And so
I'm just going to the main launch, you know, where you can get
into the river and then go on to where you're gonna hunt. And I'm
leaving out that afternoon after a little hunt and just driving along the main road,
going pretty slow because you know, rock road and whatnot, and all
of a sudden I kind of notice out of the corner of my eye just
something veering towards, you know, coming towards my my truck out of the
woods and then bang them, you know, loud branch hits the side of
the truck. Stop get out. I look around. I'm like, okay,
nothing's really you know going on. I mean, get back in my
car, you know, kind of a drenaline starry pumping. I was like,
yeah, that was really strange, Like, you know, I didn't
know where that came from, ended up taking a wrong turn out of this
little little launch air at, getting my truck stuck, and so turned it
into a whole big ordeal and ended up calling my buddy. I was like,
hey, man, like something kind of weird happened to me today,
and he's like, you know what it is, and like he's always messing
with me. You know, that swat monster, you know what I mean,
because like he knows I'm in there all the time hunting, but yeah,
he doesn't. He didn't really buy into it very much, but he
just likes to mess with me. I guess he gets that. And so
that was like one of the first times I had something really strange happened to
me, and I guess, like sorry to think, Okay, maybe there's
something out there that we don't really know. And so a couple of years
later, kind of my main experience that I talked about a lot with Alec
was in the area where my uncle had spent a lot of time hunting,
and he kind of showed me the area. So that's why I got,
you know, really familiar with it and started spending a lot of time there
and when he would hunt, you know, back in late eighties and early
nineties. You know, he would spend he would spend the night in the
swamp. You know, I guess they didn't have as many rules as they
do nowadays where you have to be in and out of areas at certain times.
So he said, he you know, he would set up in the
swamp, or he would even build like a little blind and be able to
keep his spot. You know, being public land, you kind of have
to hold on your spot. You might have somebody else come in and try
and you know, take your spot from you if it's a good spot.
Or so he said. You know, you can imagine spending you know,
twenty four hours in this swamp, you know, overnight. The things that
you would hear and possibly see, you know, and he got, you
know, to the point that he was staying out there. I think he
would say, you know, four or five days a week, you know,
during hunting season. So he was pretty much living out there. And
this one area he said he would always go to that he could you know,
at a certain time a year, or certain time of night, he
would always have you know, loud calls and you know where you know,
you could hear things moving around in the bushes, and he even would do
like this one loud call that was you know, very much like I would
say, like a kind of like a chimpanzee type like aggressive kind of not
so much like an elongated call like you're used to, you know that you
hear a lot of people doing like in on TV or anything like that.
It's of like kind of a like a barking kind of I guess, kind
of ape call. And I can remember one time we were because he would
he would travel over the country and I wouldn't see him too often, but
he would come in town for you know, Thanksgiving or this out of the
other and we'd be, you know, talking about hunting and all the different
stories that he would have. And I can remember one time he did the
call inside of my you know, inside of my grandmother's house, and when
I swore, she kicked him out quicker than you know, he finished that
call. She said, Yeah, I told you you can't be doing that
in my house. Blah blah blah blah blah. I wasn't having it.
No, I wasn't having it. But he was. He was very familiar
with you know what he called him, the old guy or big old guy,
you know. So I mean he didn't even really have like a formal
I guess name, like we do you know, for it. But yeah,
and then he had stories as well as bringing my aunt out there and
she said, I mean there's something out there, and when he would make
this call, it would it would come up to the you know, the
river bank and be making all kinds of noise and you know, throwing branches
around. And that's kind of similar to what I had happened to me later
on, you know, just a couple of years ago. So it you
know, when he told me that, I was like, oh my gosh,
like, you know, I never I guess I never thought it would
really happen, you know, to me at least, but you know,
and that story kind of started with me and my buddy going duck hunting.
I would say, it's about a mile and a half two miles from the
area that my uncle you know, said that he would have this you know,
kind of regular action, you know, or interaction. But the area
is it's all flooded most of the year and it's really only accessible like certain
times a year, especially during hunting season. Is one year you can get
in there and the water's low enough to you know, to be able to
at least walk around and hunt. And we walked, say maybe half of
my oil or so from the from the car from the parking lot, which
the parking lots you know, really deep into the swamp. I mean,
you're probably you're probably driving for twenty minutes, you know, on just rock
roads. But so this area that we go, it's it's kind of like
a little island that's all surrounded by water and slew. Really really good place
for duck hunting, you know, and I've honted there, you know,
three or four years in a row. Really the only thing I ever see
there is you know, occasional deer. We see lots of pigs. We
have lots of wild pigs down here, so we see those all the time,
you know, and then we don't really ever have any strange reactions from
them. It's usually oh, they're running away, you know. It's not
any type of like violent you know, or scary and encounters how some people
talk about. But this particular time, when I was with my buddy gav
It, it was funny because it's actually the first time he had ever been
hunting, so he kind of like you know, you think he doesn't have
any idea what's going to be. Like so, but SO was seeting on
this field, you know, all surrounded by water. I'd say it's about
twenty minutes before shooting light, so I can't really see anything at this moment,
and you know, I can start to hear something walking from the other
side of this little slough kind of taking its time. So I'm like,
okay, like I don't know what that is, but I'm sure it's will
just you know, make its way through. And two minutes, three minutes
go by, and can still kind of hear it walking walking walking. I'm
like, okay, like it's really taking its time. Usually a deer or
a pig would have noticed this by now and taken off and slowly I hear
whatever it is enter like the opposite side of the bayou kind of coming towards
us on the other side and this little island. I was like, jeez,
like whatever this is, like really, And by this time, I've
already like looked at my buddy. That's you know, twenty five yards on
the opposite side of me. So I'm kind of closer to whatever the creature
is. And I mean, if I couldn't see his eyeballs at nighttime,
you know, like i'd be lying. But I turn around and I'm looking
at him and his eyes are huge, and he's like, what is that?
And I mean, I just addn't know, but I'd like, I
have no idea. So it you know, it proceeds to come, you
know, further through the water, you know, comes up to the other
side. There's like a little embankment, and as soon as it comes out
that embankment, I mean, you just hear dripping. So I'm like,
oh my god, what is this? Like this is big? Like this
is this is big? And so you hear dripping onto the leaves, dripping
on the leaves, and it's kind of walking up the in banking and then
I just, you know, on you know, I mean, rack my
shotgun, you know, just kind of make a little noise, like,
you know, who knows. I mean, this could be a hunter.
Maybe I don't know why he doesn't have a light on or you know,
usually you know by this time, like you would have a light or something,
or you wouldn't have swam through you know, you wouldn't have swam through
a bayou at this point in the dark. Yeah, yeah, it's thirty
degrees out, Like, this doesn't make any sense. And you know when
they say we have black bear down here, I don't know. I still
don't think like that would even if it were a black bear. I feel
like as soon as it knew we were there, it would have high tailed
opposite direction, right, Yeah, I would think so, right. And
you know, and everyone that I've talked to since then, they're like,
yeah, I mean that doesn't sound like any behavior of like any normal animal.
So you know, we hear it coming up the side of embankment,
water dripping off of it, and you know, and we start to hear
it breathing. Oh my god, Oh my god. I'm like, I'm
like, this can't this can't be you know, this can't be, like
because it was like everything that kept happening. I'm like it it was checking
a box to say, Okay, this isn't what I think it is.
Yeah, And so at that point we start to hear that, and we
had already been talking. So whatever this, whatever this is, probably knows
we're there. I mean, we're not that far maybe thirty yards, you
know, and it's a side of like this field. So when you kind
of go into the to the little bayou. There's a lot of trees right
there, so it could be hanging out right there. We couldn't see it
anyway, So so I just decide I'm just gonna, you know, kind
of re rack my shotgun again. It's so loud. Whatever it is takes
off, goes back into the bayou, either runs into a massive tree or
picks something up, throws at our direction, and then proceeds to kind of
curve around the side of the field and run off through the woods. Like
the loudest thing I've ever heard for We probably could hear it for a good
twenty seconds before it kind of you know, maybe the wind picked up and
we didn't really hear it anymore. But like breaking limbs and stuff, breaking
limbs, I mean you could, yeah, breaking limbs, I mean you
could kind of almost physically feel it, you know, maybe like impacting the
ground. I don't know if that's like you're heart beating at that point or
what, but I mean I swear I could feel like a difference of more
weight. I guess you could say, like contact from the ground than just
just like a deer or something like that. You know, whenever you heard
it coming through the water. Did it sound like a person on two legs
or did it sound you know, could you tell it sounded exactly like if
you were to wade through the water, you know, just like if you
were to take your time kind of wading through the water and then yeah,
you know, coming up the other side and you know, taking its time.
It wasn't in a rush, which was it was kind of like difficult,
you know, because I was just like, okay, could this thing
whatever it is, just passed through? But it was like, I mean,
probably the entire kind of thing probably lasted three or four minutes because it
was taking it so much time walking on the opposite side of the little slough
before it came through, and then you know, and then it took off
run an opposite direction. But yeah, so it was just like I just
had never experienced anything, you know like that. No, I would think
not did your friend ever go hunting again? Yeah? I mean I think
for me, like he realized that like I wasn't like high tailing it at
that point, picking my bags up and like walking to the car. You
know, I think he realized that I wasn't, you know, and not
at no point in time, felt like I wasn't in fear really in the
sense of like something bad was gonna happen. I was just like wrong place,
the wrong time, I guess type of thing. You know, just
knew whatever was happening wasn't right, right, Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I mean and being I mean, I've I've seen packs of
pigs come through the swamp and I mean it's it's nowhere near like what this
sounded like, you know what like I heard of pigs sounds like versus like
you know, breaking branches and just I mean, I mean, it's just
so loud. I don't I don't know. It's like have you heard like
other stories from other people outside of you know, you and your uncle in
that area. Yeah, And that's that's kind of the weird part about like
once I contacted Alec and then kind of was like, well, this is
like a cool community, Like let me just kind of start trying to ask
people, you know. It didn't take me very long. I literally asked
one guy that I worked with that grew up in Pearl River and he's like,
oh, you hunt out there. He's like, hey, you need
to be careful. I'm like I'm like, I'm like, please tell me.
I was like, don't, don't, don't, don't say what you're
about to say right now, because I was just you know, I just
thought it was funny, you know, how like how quick he was about
to say, you know, you don't not be hunting there. Yeah.
His story was from when he was I think he said when he was like
fifteen or sixteen was the last time he had hunted in there with his dad,
And I think they were hunting a little bit further north in Boga Chitto,
which it's kind of all the same areas connected Boga Chit is just a
little bit further north on the Pearl River. But he said they were hunting
one morning and he happened to look over and he asked his dad like,
oh, you know, do you see that guy over there? And as
soon as he got his dad to look over there, the guy was gone.
He said, you know, it was like up on top of a
ridge, kind of like had been pee you know, looked like he was
peeking around a bush ridge three and that was it. As soon as he
turned his head, you know, it was gone. That was really that
was really, you know, the only story that he had other than saying,
you know, obviously it's super well known you know around here. Not
too many people are gonna not have heard at least one or two stories,
you know, through the years. I would think, and it's the whole
area, like public hunting area. Yeah, the whole area. I think
it's i mean all combined around like sixty to seventy thousand acres. Wow.
You know, so it's it's it's a and it's it's not necessarily very wide.
It's about you know, sixty seven miles wide, but then you know
extends along the Mississippi and Louisiana border for like forty forty or fifty miles at
least in this area, this section. Wow. I mean you've mentioned you
know, deer and ducks obviously. Do you guys have like just open season
on hogs there too? I mean, for like in public land, they
still have you know, your kind of season, you know, open and
closed season, just because I mean, if you had a bunch of public
land and a bunch of you know, open public land Louisiana all year around,
that would be kind of crazy. A lot of a lot of people
run around with the guns at that point. Yeah, But for the most
but there's no limit. I guess you could say, like during that time
of year, if if you could kill one hundred, you'd be doing them
a favorite, you know what I mean. I don't I don't know if
it's the same that it used to be. But I know at one point
in time here in Oklahoma, they were, you know, such a nuisance
animal doing so much damage that it was just no season. There. There's
always season for hogs. You can take one anytime you want, day or
night, right, you know. But I didn't know if it was like
that. There is there like a time of the year whenever there's not hunting
going on in this area. Yeah, so it's mainly from October to February
will be like the block or the time of year when most of people are
going to be there, you know. Other than that, not too many
people are going to spend too much time in the small you know. Yeah,
so pretty much deer and ducks, Yeah, deer ducks. You know,
a lot of squirrel, small game, you know. I mean you
can said, I mean, there's a lot of fishing as well in the
area because it's all you know, it's all good river systems. Yeah,
that's mainly what I do is is deer and duck hunting there, and you
know pigs as well. I mean there's yeah, there's lots of those running
around noise. And I think it was about a week after I had gotten
in touch with Alec and we we had hung out and done a little interview.
I had heard from a buddy of mine that his mom had passed away.
So I was like, okay, well, shoot, let me you
know, I can get some dinner together and I'll come and bring it by
one night night and stop by there. And he was, you know,
asking me how my season is gone, you know, hunting wise, and
I was showing him some pictures and and whatnot. He was saying, you're
still in there in that swallow, you know, because he hunts private land
now. And he's like, yeah, man, I really, you know,
I really, I really love it out there. He's like, well,
you know, I got a couple of stories for you if you want
to hear him. I'm like, oh, buddy, I was like that.
You know, as soon as I said that, the hair on the
back of my neck raised. Though. I'm like, I know what he's
about to tell me too, And he said a group that he used to
hunt with. He wasn't in the group at the time, but a group
that he used to home with head you know, got a party together.
And in this area they have especially you know, fifteen twenty years ago,
they had tons of house boats that would more on the side of the river.
During hunting season, you can hop out of your you know, hop
out of your house boat and go hunting. You know, you don't have
to travel too far. So they had a group of guys that were set
up, you know, hunting for the weekend, and they had all their
gear you know, outside the cabin and they had heard some loud banging.
They came out and all their stuff had just been thrown all over the place.
They're like, well, that's weird, Like I don't think any other
owners are trying to get shot tonight, you know, like probably not to
be a good idea to be running around other camps, you know, throwing
people's stuff around. And they following day, somebody in the camp had had
shot a dough and when he went to go blood trail it, he you
know, blood trailed it and found it, you know, saw it going
into a thicket. Said well, maybe I should go get some help.
When got a couple of guys and they came back and you know, I
guess they are approaching thicket or starting to walk into it, and next thing
they knew, the carcass of the deer is being thrown over top of them
and landed, you know, outside of the thicket. And I think from
there they you know, picked up and ran out, you know, and
probably didn't hunt that area anymore. But the deer was thrown Yeah, thrown
out of the thicket. Yeah. Wow, that's I've that's crazy. I've
never heard that one before. That would freak me out, man, that
would freak me completely out to see a deer carca just flying through the air.
Oh yeah, I mean because a lot of these you know guys have
no idea any of this type of stuff. You know. Yeah, I
think you know, some of the people that hunt out there nowadays, they'd
be like, Okay, maybe I shouldn't go in that thicket. You know,
it's probably better to not go in that thicket. If a deer went
in there, you know, it's not worth my life, you know what
I mean. Yeah, I mean, I think if you see a deer
flying through the air, you figure it out real quick though. Yeah,
yeah, I know, I mean I can't, I can't imagine. So,
like I want to back up to your your original story about the stick
hitting your truck. So was that during daylight that that happened. Yeah,
it was about three o'clock in the afternoon. I've been hunting most of the
day. And then I can't remember why if I had work that night and
I was coming in and you know, riding down this this rock road and
you know, I can remember actually thinking like my trailer was making a bunch
of noise on this on this little rock road, just bouncing up and down.
It was. It was annoying me. And then next thing, I
know, I just kind of like look looked to my side, you know,
out of my peripro vision, and you know, about the size of
a baseball bat and maybe six foot long, just smashes right off of you
know, where my rear view mirror is, and I you know, stopped
and so right there next to you, yeah, right there, yeah,
right there next to me, and like you you caught like the movement of
it going through there. So it what I'm getting is it didn't like it
wasn't like a dead limb that fell from a tree. It was actually going
sideways through the air at your truck, right, Yeah, that's the only
you know, that's the only way that I could imagine. You know,
I don't I can't forst see me catching my peripheral vision if it were coming
from the top. Yeah, and kind of like where it is. It's
it's kind of like the road's kind of like a levee, so you're you're
driving through the swamp at that time, So like off either side is like
sawgrasst t tall sorry tall sawgrass and and pal meadows and I mean super super
thick. So if something was down in there, you don't even have like
trees hanging over the road or anything. Now, oh wow, yeah,
that would rule out the dead limb theory in a hurry, right, did
you like stop the truck and get out and everything. Yeah, stop the
truck and got out, and it was just kind of I mean, the
most odd part about it was the fact that I could see kind of see
it coming. That's what you know, if it hit the top of the
truck or if it fell on the hood or something out and be like oh
that was weird and go pick it up. And throw it off the side
of the road and you know, keep going. But it was just like
how I don't know, I guess how like how how how much I got
scared? Was the part that like made me second guess, like whoa,
Like, well, you know what exactly was that? Like, yeah,
it was really strange. Hit the truck pretty good. Did it leave any
marks or anything? No, No, I canna remember. I mean it
busted, so I mean it, you know, it was like a which
was strange. I think it was a pine tree and there was no pine
trees around, you know, or really anywhere, you know, even on
that side of the that side of the the swamp, there's really not a
lot of pine trees, so I mean, you know, and there's always
the water comes up and down, so wood floats all over the place,
and you might find a you know, a pine tree log, you know,
ten miles from an actual pine tree because they're always you know, floating
around. I guess, I mean that could you know, b why it
would be in that area, But but that wouldn't explain why it was flying
through the air at your truck, right yeah, yeah, no, and
and and just you know, and then and then getting my truck stuck afterwards,
was like, I mean, it was like the icing on top of
it. I mean, what better timing, you know. Uh yeah,
Well, just for your own piece of vine, I want to let you
know that you're not the first person who's had their vehicle hit by a limb
as they're driving down a road out in the middle of nowhere. Okay,
yeah, because I've never I've never really heard of it. I mean other
than you know, kind of like piecing it together in my mind like what
it could possibly be like, I had never really that I can think of,
other than people, you know, having stories about rocks being thrown at
them. I've heard, you know those stories, I guess. But yeah,
I know a couple of people that's had their vehicles hit with tree limbs
as they're driving out of an area. Yeah, I mean it makes sense
if they were mad or they didn't want you there. So your uncle.
The thing that really grabs my attention about your uncle is the fact that he
was going out there and making calls, because that's something that the group of
people that I was associated with back whenever her eyes going out actively looking for
these things. Their whole claim to fame was they would do calls and this
they were the first people that I was ever around that did calls. And
it wasn't really like an accepted thing to even do calls out in the woods
like it is now for you know, bigfoot researchers. Right. So did
your uncle ever say why he used that call? Is that something he developed
on his own? Is it something he heard? Yeah? For him,
I mean it was a mimic from what he had heard, you know,
honestly, Like, I mean, he's like a smoker, so and he's
he's got some health issues. But I mean I've never of all the people
that I've ever heard do a call like on TV or anything. I mean,
this man has got it. I can say that. I mean,
and it's it had to have been because he's heard it. Yeah. When
he would when he would built this call out, I mean it would it
would almost make you, like, you know, come to tears, like
it was so scary like and if you were to hear that in the woods,
I would probably be one of these people that sold all their hunting equipment
and never stepped foot in there. Again, did he always go to the
same spot to do it? Yeah? So, like the area that they
have it. It's an old highway that used to run from Pearl River to
Pickyune, Mississippi, and they had a bridge that washed out at the Mississippi
Louisiana line and they've just left it washed out for I don't know, fifty
or sixty years now. And that's like the border for the Wildlife Management Area
is the state line on that side. And he would go to the go
to the edge of this bridge and make these calls, and you know,
he said that the creature would come to the opposite side of the river bank,
you know, breaking branches and you know, you know, screaming and
all, you know, the whole the whole thing, you know. And
yeah, he would, you know, did it multiple times that he would
go there, because he brought my aunt out there, you know once and
she said she would never go back. Do you know how you found that
spot? It's just a it's just a really popular spot because you can you
can you can park your truck there and you can walk down and get to
the river and a lot of people can go down there and launch like little
pros and whatnot. So I'm not exactly sure how he stumbled upon, like,
you know, having the encounters there. I'm not exactly sure if he
maybe was hunting in the area and had a siding and then figured I'll go
back here, you know, maybe if he wanted to, you know,
which to me, I can't imagine ever going to like poke the beast,
I because you should say if I knew where he lived, but I mean,
he always called him the big guy, so he said he knew where
he lived, and you know, and it was right around this old old
bridge that had washed out on the river. Yeah, I bet your uncle
knew a lot more than he than he let you know about. Yeah,
and he Yeah, there was a few times that we we went and camped
out there, and he would fall asleep like a baby out there, and
he would wake me up. You know, he would wake up like you
okay, like anything happened, like no, we're okay, we're okay,
and then he drow his back off, you know. So yeah, he
definitely could definitely tell that he was nervous, but he'd still you know,
enjoy being out there. Why do you think your grandma ran him out of
the house. Why didn't you like the call? Because it was it was
almost sounded like it was about to break the windows and he was like this.
I mean, yeah, I tried to do it with because Alec asked
me about it, and I tried to do it, and I felt like,
you know, it wasn't a newhere near like what he does, and
it's probably you know, it's been probably ten fifteen years since I've heard him
do it, but it's ingrained in my brain, you know, how he
how he made that call, and it's nothing like I've heard anyone else do
you know, on any type of TV show or any anything like that.
It's it seems more like something he would have had to have heard to come
up with. You know. Well, man, thanks for coming on and
sharing your stuff. You've got an interesting story. Are you still going out
there? Are you? Have you ever thought about trying to, you know,
go out to the bridge and do a call yourself or anything. I
really haven't. I mean I wish like I could almost maybe find something like
a recording that's similar to try and you know, maybe try and do that,
because it's such a you know, such a like difficult for me to
even make any any of those types of noises. I guess you could say,
yeah, like you know, I guess it's it's hard, like you
kind of I mean, like when I try to do I guess I kind
of felt silly at first, and then I was like, all right,
now I need to really try. But yeah, I still still wasn't able
to do it very well. Yeah. I used to practice in my car,
just driving around with the windows up, trying to do big foot calls.
And one time I looked over and there, you know, how to
stoplight, and the letty was giving me a funny look. So I quit
doing it. I mean, that's probably not too strange now with all these
TikTok dancers and what else they got going on or not. But yeah,
I've never really really thought about, you know, kind of doing my own
research, you know, maybe just hope something would happen, you know,
through the time I spend in the woods, you know, during hunting.
But you know, after these two experiences, coming on the podcast and then
being able to hang out with Alec, I mean, it's like a pretty
cool community to get, you know, into, so I might need to
start doing some stuff. Yeah, I mean, for sure, if you're
into it. I mean there's a lot of other outdoorsmen too, you know,
people that are in the hunting and fishing that are you know, into
Bigfoot. It kind of goes hand in hand with one another, it seems.
Yeah. I mean I think that's like the the community, you know,
good community, especially if you've had some sort of experience, you know,
because it seems like a lot of people still are worried about the seeming
like you're crazy. You know, people thinking you're crazy or what it might
be. You know. But yeah, I've definitely broken down this stig.
But at least in my family. I mean, I've got like my sister,
my brother, and they're all like, oh, you know, I
can't believe the un this is so exciting, like you know, and watch
the YouTube video with Alec and stuff. So that was that was a cool
experience. Have you ever experienced anything paranormal or seen a UFO or anything?
Not that I know of. I mean I've seen some I mean in crazy
you know, I guess meters, but you know, who knows if they're
you know, UFO related or what. But I mean in some time out
in the you know, in the in the marsh at nighttime with no lights,
you see some some crazy student star. Does that make you wonder?
You know what I mean, yeah, you always end up seeing a lot
of crazy stuff out in the woods at night, regardless of what you're looking
for. And if you've had a run in with your own swamp monster or
something else you can't explain, send me an email at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail
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