Ep. 401: Sid Tribute Part 5

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<v Speaker 14>And pose well, this is the run. This is the
<v Speaker 14>run of SID as we continue our tribute to the
<v Speaker 14>Psychotic One here on TLF which and Sid Fashion Boss
<v Speaker 14>is just.
<v Speaker 5>Well actually there was a SID.
<v Speaker 14>On this on the Austrian indies named Sid Vienna, but
<v Speaker 14>they didn't not they never got sued for copyright infringement
<v Speaker 14>or anything like that.
<v Speaker 5>Surprising it that's his fall. Should have checked it on it.
<v Speaker 14>But I mean, I adventure to say, if not for
<v Speaker 14>the run we're about to talk about, on a journey
<v Speaker 14>that into Sid fashion keeps growing new heads.
<v Speaker 5>As it Inferls before us. But we don't. We don't.
<v Speaker 14>We don't shy away from the challenge, no matter how
<v Speaker 14>psychotically those eyes wilink.
<v Speaker 5>That's the reality of it, all right. You know we've
<v Speaker 5>said it, and it's not we don't be We're not
<v Speaker 5>facetious when we say it that we leave no stone.
<v Speaker 14>Unturned TFX like damn fucking right. Indeed, And so as
<v Speaker 14>we look at SiZ returned to the w WF in
<v Speaker 14>nineteen ninety six where we last left you, this is
<v Speaker 14>the run where if you didn't have this run, I'm
<v Speaker 14>pretty sure we don't do a tribute show with this guy.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, as central as he was to the Hasbro
<v Speaker 14>era with the Hogan feud that was, that could have
<v Speaker 14>just gone down, as you know, no different than Hogan's
<v Speaker 14>feud with I don't know, somewhat different but not much
<v Speaker 14>different than this feud with what Big Boss Man or
<v Speaker 14>something or.
<v Speaker 5>Ki Kung Bundy King Kung Bunny. Very very good. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>because there's the wrestleming the main event competit to that
<v Speaker 5>one as well.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, but because he won the WWF Championship after stabbing
<v Speaker 14>ourn Anderson, after being h exiled and becoming you know, unemployable.
<v Speaker 5>And I knew that they even knew that he was,
<v Speaker 5>that he had stabbed arn Anderson when he came back
<v Speaker 5>in ninety six. I don't think I knew that. Now.
<v Speaker 14>That wasn't really something you would easily know unless you
<v Speaker 14>subscribe to the newsletters. Yeah, I'm sure it was on
<v Speaker 14>the internet, but the Internet was still you know, prodigy.
<v Speaker 14>It wasn't very easy and intuitive to find him for
<v Speaker 14>me about wrestling if you weren't plugged into the right
<v Speaker 14>message boards and forums. And even then, you know what
<v Speaker 14>happened to be sort of mentioned offhandedly, it had happened
<v Speaker 14>years ago, years prior rather, but when it happened in
<v Speaker 14>ninety three, yeah, I mean, there was very limited information.
<v Speaker 14>I'm sure further because it took place in England, it
<v Speaker 14>wasn't even like a right story The American news media covered.
<v Speaker 14>So it's just it's so pro wrestling that Sid has
<v Speaker 14>the run of his life and cements' legacy after you know,
<v Speaker 14>doing something more horrific than pretty much anyone in an
<v Speaker 14>American wrestling office. This other ever done into a co
<v Speaker 14>worker here. So that's the business. That's the Sid story.
<v Speaker 14>And he comes back in ninety six, as we talked about,
<v Speaker 14>because Ultimate Warrior has another falling out with the company.
<v Speaker 14>There was supposed to be a main event in the
<v Speaker 14>July ninety six international incident in your House where Hogan,
<v Speaker 14>pardon me, Hogan, Warrior was team with a sary.
<v Speaker 5>What do you mean an international dude?
<v Speaker 14>Hogan does not believe that was an innocent slip of
<v Speaker 14>the Tongue Warrior Shawn Michaels and I'm a Johnson. It's
<v Speaker 14>supposed to be a three man team and a six
<v Speaker 14>man Warrior falls out. Sid shows up. We played that
<v Speaker 14>clip last week and little did they know at first,
<v Speaker 14>you know, it's just this idea. We need to do
<v Speaker 14>an emergency replacement, get him on a couple of house shows. Well,
<v Speaker 14>warri were scheduled and the fans be pissed off if
<v Speaker 14>he doesn't show up. Replace them with somebody, you know,
<v Speaker 14>with the star power of Sid uh to make them
<v Speaker 14>happy and make entreaties to sit around just a fuck
<v Speaker 14>couple of shots, you know, just come in. We just
<v Speaker 14>need you to power mombs and people bail us out
<v Speaker 14>for this pay per view, and then pretty soon we
<v Speaker 14>need you, Pal.
<v Speaker 5>But I never said we weren't going to use you
<v Speaker 5>full time, you know. I didn't say that we weren't.
<v Speaker 5>I said, you know, we need you for a couple
<v Speaker 5>of things now, and then we'll probably have you working overtime. Listen,
<v Speaker 5>but I'm paying for you, Sid. We need you, Pal.
<v Speaker 5>You know, we need a lot of things right and
<v Speaker 5>right now we need Sid. We need a lot of
<v Speaker 5>things to go psychotic. In ring, he tells Sid, we
<v Speaker 5>need a lot of things. In other words like look,
<v Speaker 5>I can't I don't have any time right now for
<v Speaker 5>you to say no to a full time run. Listen,
<v Speaker 5>You've got to go full time hard and you can't
<v Speaker 5>turn back. And he does.
<v Speaker 14>And you want to talk about serendipity. What was the
<v Speaker 14>last pay per view that we did on the feed
<v Speaker 14>before SID before deciding on the SID tribute shows and
<v Speaker 14>embarking on that.
<v Speaker 5>It was buried Alive, right, I mean, come on, yeah.
<v Speaker 14>Right, that's the pay per view where it's now clear
<v Speaker 14>that they've shift shifted directions that Vader is not indeed
<v Speaker 14>going to take the strap off Shawn Michaels at the
<v Speaker 14>nineteen ninety six Survivor series, as we've talked about in
<v Speaker 14>the archives covering that show quite a ways ago, and
<v Speaker 14>that they're going to go with Sid because Sid beats
<v Speaker 14>Vader at Buried Alive or relatively cleanly, and you can
<v Speaker 14>kind of see the in my opinion, the pou pout
<v Speaker 14>face on Vader as he makes his way to the
<v Speaker 14>ring for that match. He does not look like a
<v Speaker 14>happy guy. He looks like someone that, according to Sid,
<v Speaker 14>was just kind of made it a ware over the
<v Speaker 14>weekend that he's not going to get the title and
<v Speaker 14>he's not going to get the run and that he
<v Speaker 14>he fucked himself out of the opportunity by having a
<v Speaker 14>match that wasn't to Shawn Michael's liking when they met
<v Speaker 14>at SummerSlam nineteen ninety six.
<v Speaker 5>So pathetic.
<v Speaker 14>And this the same Vader who has, you know, a
<v Speaker 14>fate intertwined with Sids from the Tag Team in WCW
<v Speaker 14>in ninety three, to sure being the guy that tried
<v Speaker 14>to help close the wound and the stabbing incident in
<v Speaker 14>the England hotel room a hotel, I should say, so
<v Speaker 14>just remarkable that it once again comes down to Sid
<v Speaker 14>in Vader. They finally meet in the ring, and in
<v Speaker 14>Sid is the one that pulls ahead in the race
<v Speaker 14>to become the top guy in the WWF. And we
<v Speaker 14>all know, we all know how impactful that win was
<v Speaker 14>at Madison Square Garden in November nineteen ninety six. We
<v Speaker 14>all know what we tasted and what we felt, and
<v Speaker 14>we're going to revisit it here as we essentially serendipitously
<v Speaker 14>pick up where we left off right around Buried Alive
<v Speaker 14>October nineteen ninety six, which is so true, and this
<v Speaker 14>I'm realizing as we go, this will make a really
<v Speaker 14>nice addendum to our ninety seven journey, which, as you
<v Speaker 14>will call, we launched rather stealthily by covering Roy Rummel
<v Speaker 14>nineteen ninety seven, without making any kind of a big
<v Speaker 14>production out of the fact that we were going to
<v Speaker 14>march stomatically through every pay per view WWF pay per
<v Speaker 14>view of nineteen ninety seven until we got to the
<v Speaker 14>Montreal Survivor series and you know we Sid gets short
<v Speaker 14>shrift in that Montreal story, right, Yes, yes he does,
<v Speaker 14>but he's there. He's kind of like, he's kind of like, no,
<v Speaker 14>he's not there. No, not not when the Survivor series happens.
<v Speaker 5>But I'm talking about when he's yeah, when he's yeah,
<v Speaker 5>he is, he's I mean, he's a major part of that.
<v Speaker 5>He's a major part of the company until the summer, and.
<v Speaker 14>He's part of you know, the Sean Brett tensions that
<v Speaker 14>that spill from the screen to the back and vice versa,
<v Speaker 14>that they kind of revolve around Sid in this title win,
<v Speaker 14>you know when Sid goes away pardon me, when Sean
<v Speaker 14>goes away having lost his smile. It was supposed to
<v Speaker 14>be said that he lost the strap back to when
<v Speaker 14>Brett has his absolute breakdown in the ring on that
<v Speaker 14>famous Raw episode and says this is bullshit and shoves
<v Speaker 14>Vince on the ground and punches Pat Patterson. He was
<v Speaker 14>in the steel cage match with Sid on that show.
<v Speaker 14>As we're about to talk about old, think about the
<v Speaker 14>fact that you know that the show we're actually going
<v Speaker 14>to deep introducing the first deep dive of the Sid
<v Speaker 14>tribute here. The next time We're with you next week
<v Speaker 14>on the Sid tribute the February nineteen ninety seven raw
<v Speaker 14>where Brett loses the strap back and it becomes very
<v Speaker 14>clear that it's not to be Brett and Sewan at
<v Speaker 14>WrestleMania thirteen, who does he lose the strap to Sid
<v Speaker 14>for sid second WWF Championship win. You think about the
<v Speaker 14>Alamodome and all the significance of that around the Brett
<v Speaker 14>Sean thing, and how it was to get Sean back
<v Speaker 14>into you know, pole position after so many fans seem
<v Speaker 14>to turn on him at that Survivor series. It's Sid
<v Speaker 14>and they're in the Alamodome with him as the nexus.
<v Speaker 14>I'm not saying Sid is the centerpiece, but he's there.
<v Speaker 14>He's the guy that all this is happening around while
<v Speaker 14>he just kind of stands. They're all orbiting around him.
<v Speaker 14>He's the Sun and he's just standing there expressionless. That's
<v Speaker 14>what I picture.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's you know, that's a leet. If he
<v Speaker 5>were if he were the Sun, if he were the
<v Speaker 5>center of the universe something like that, he would he
<v Speaker 5>no pun intended, He'd be just off in spacebsolutely would be.
<v Speaker 5>He would have no idea that there were things circling
<v Speaker 5>around him, he'd just be completely lost.
<v Speaker 14>And I'm not sure that's an inaccurate description of the man.
<v Speaker 14>I mean really, as this all takes place, he's just like,
<v Speaker 14>we're I'm I going to get a run, Like he's
<v Speaker 14>oblivious to the fact that the only thing that matters
<v Speaker 14>is Shawn and Brett. Like this title when we're picture.
<v Speaker 5>We're off it.
<v Speaker 2>In this.
<v Speaker 14>We're gonna play what About Me? Exactly right exactly. It's like,
<v Speaker 14>are you listening to the TV? We're about to march
<v Speaker 14>through it systematically. This is going to be one of
<v Speaker 14>the finer tooth combs of this whole Sid tribute because
<v Speaker 14>we want to really tie together Survivors Series ninety six
<v Speaker 14>and him winning the belt back for the show that
<v Speaker 14>we're going to deep dive the raw after the final
<v Speaker 14>four pay per view in February nineteen ninety seven. We're
<v Speaker 14>going to basically listen to everything Sid did for the
<v Speaker 14>period of time where he could have been framed as
<v Speaker 14>the top guy, as the WWF champion, and when you
<v Speaker 14>go back and listen to it, Boss, it's like they
<v Speaker 14>hardly talk about the guy.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, he's nothing.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, Sean Michaels is on commentary when he loses
<v Speaker 14>the time to Undertaker at WrestleMania thirteen, and the whole
<v Speaker 14>story is like, what if Shawn Michaels think about Undertaker
<v Speaker 14>versus Sid. It's not that Sid is main eventing WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 14>defending the title. Undertaker is about to win the title
<v Speaker 14>for the first time at WrestleMania. It's hardly about that.
<v Speaker 14>It's just about Sean running his mouth almost.
<v Speaker 5>The entire second time. The second time at.
<v Speaker 14>WrestleMania, I said, oh, oh, I see what you mean,
<v Speaker 14>and just running his mouth the entire time, like Sewan
<v Speaker 14>is just he's just blabbing over all of Sid's segments
<v Speaker 14>from Surrider's Series ninety six until the ray after Final Four,
<v Speaker 14>all the way through WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 5>In fact, I don't to see what's problem is.
<v Speaker 14>And when it's not Sean, it's Brett, you know, and
<v Speaker 14>his grievances and his feud with Steve Austin kind of
<v Speaker 14>overwhelming Sid's segments on Monday Night Raw as well. But
<v Speaker 14>we're about to transition. I'm gonna ask you a question.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, you talk about we talk about Sid kind
<v Speaker 14>of unwittingly being in the middle of all this when
<v Speaker 14>they make that fateful switch from the Monday Night Raw
<v Speaker 14>and the design and the graphics and the look and
<v Speaker 14>presentation from ninety three and switch over to Raw his
<v Speaker 14>War and that heart core look and presentation. Who's the
<v Speaker 14>first guy through the curtain on that first show?
<v Speaker 5>Sid?
<v Speaker 14>It's Sid. That's absolutely correct. Yeah, I mean, come on, folks.
<v Speaker 5>It's just listen. He's he's just a weird He's such
<v Speaker 5>a weird entity that he's always there.
<v Speaker 14>It's always there, and he ends up in these pole
<v Speaker 14>positions and it doesn't really ever seem to be quite
<v Speaker 14>by design. It's almost like happenstance, you know, like he's oh,
<v Speaker 14>totally You think about the pretense he was brought in
<v Speaker 14>in ninety one in the first place, with WWF about
<v Speaker 14>being this top babyface as Hogan's about to, you know,
<v Speaker 14>take a hiatus to get away from the scrutiny and
<v Speaker 14>do some movies. And by the time it's over, Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>he's in the Wrestlmini made event. But he's like a
<v Speaker 14>totally different presentation yep, than what we've been led to
<v Speaker 14>believe was in mind for him in the first place.
<v Speaker 14>And what actually is reflected in the way he's booked,
<v Speaker 14>not only in SummerSlam ninety one, but on that very
<v Speaker 14>first match we ever saw that he did in a
<v Speaker 14>taping against Teddy Biasse. He's like totally working like a
<v Speaker 14>guy who's going to be a world champion babyface, bumping
<v Speaker 14>and feeding and doing all that stuff, like yeah, definitely
<v Speaker 14>definitely feeding, Definitely definitely feeding. They bring him in to
<v Speaker 14>be a tag team wrestler in eighty nine in WCWNWA,
<v Speaker 14>and he just like absolutely captivates the crowd and pretty
<v Speaker 14>much is the main event of Hollyween Havoc nineteen. He
<v Speaker 14>is the main event of Halloween Havoc nineteen ninety but
<v Speaker 14>pretty much without any foregone plan in that direction. I mean,
<v Speaker 14>no one would have marked him as being in that
<v Speaker 14>position as recently as he had just come into the
<v Speaker 14>company his first national television run.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is the story of Sid.
<v Speaker 14>He just and he ends up making all this money
<v Speaker 14>and he never really is the reason the money's being
<v Speaker 14>generated around him. But he's still there, he's still in
<v Speaker 14>the picture. He could still lay claim to being a
<v Speaker 14>key face of it all. And it's really it's a
<v Speaker 14>fascinating career and I'm positive we didn't spend enough time
<v Speaker 14>thinking about Sid when we did the ninety seven journey,
<v Speaker 14>and now we get to focus in.
<v Speaker 5>Definitely did not. I mean no, there's no chance in
<v Speaker 5>hell that we that we spent any any real time
<v Speaker 5>on him, And so he talked about it outside of
<v Speaker 5>his matches. He probably got more, he probably got more
<v Speaker 5>attention during the dive of each show than actually you
<v Speaker 5>know 's actually talking about him.
<v Speaker 14>Absolutely, and I think we spent most of our time
<v Speaker 14>just trying to peace out and tease out, you know,
<v Speaker 14>the subtleties and everything Brett and Sean said on WWF television,
<v Speaker 14>and how you can start to start to feel the
<v Speaker 14>kettle boil between those two. You can start to see
<v Speaker 14>the remarks toward each other get more pointed and more
<v Speaker 14>sort of out of character for a typical WWF microphone showdown,
<v Speaker 14>and you start we're just like doing a forensic examination
<v Speaker 14>of how the Brett Sean thing just fell apart from
<v Speaker 14>being relatively on the same page going into WrestleMania twelve
<v Speaker 14>to not even being able to be in the same
<v Speaker 14>room with each other by WrestleMania thirteen. And yes, Sid's there,
<v Speaker 14>but there's no way we spent any time thinking about
<v Speaker 14>what he did or what he said, and WWF didn't
<v Speaker 14>really either. I mean he is he let himself, I think,
<v Speaker 14>be tricked into thinking that if he did well as champion,
<v Speaker 14>that they'd keep the strap on him. You know, well
<v Speaker 14>here ' helim say that later and Bruce Pritchard and
<v Speaker 14>others have squatted that away like completely ridiculous. It's like
<v Speaker 14>you should have known the second you beat Sean in
<v Speaker 14>the garden, Sid, that it's all about getting it back
<v Speaker 14>to Sean or to somebody else. There's it's not about
<v Speaker 14>let's see how long we can run with Sid, and
<v Speaker 14>you know, to Sid's I think SID is defensible and
<v Speaker 14>saying like, well, I kind of got fucked there because
<v Speaker 14>no one ever really gave me a chance. Everyone assumed
<v Speaker 14>that I would get long in the tooth as a
<v Speaker 14>champion and couldn't be somebody that could be a defending
<v Speaker 14>champion carrying a territory for a while. And he had
<v Speaker 14>certainly earned that reputation considering how many contracts he'd walked
<v Speaker 14>out on by this point in time. It was not
<v Speaker 14>sound business practice to really, you know, build an eighteen
<v Speaker 14>month campaign around Sid or anything like that.
<v Speaker 5>He might stab somebody in the fucking with scissors.
<v Speaker 14>Right, But when he sits back and looks back in
<v Speaker 14>his career, in the shoot interviews and stuff that he
<v Speaker 14>ends up doing, it's it's not a bad point. Like
<v Speaker 14>I never no one ever really found out if I
<v Speaker 14>could have produced as a as a touring champion, as
<v Speaker 14>a guy that you know that was given the ball,
<v Speaker 14>It's it's not a bad point. I think we all
<v Speaker 14>know what would have happened. But he was allowed to
<v Speaker 14>basically look back on his career and say, well, we
<v Speaker 14>can't say for absolute sure that I would have crashed
<v Speaker 14>and burned because the second the belt was put on me,
<v Speaker 14>the plan to take it off me was already in play.
<v Speaker 14>And that's that's a weird position to be in. But
<v Speaker 14>it did account for him having, you know, his highest
<v Speaker 14>triumphs in the wrestling ring, and the moments that flashed
<v Speaker 14>right to mine first when you heard about his passing
<v Speaker 14>were this run, yep, this title win, and everything that
<v Speaker 14>happened around it heading into a Wrestlemandia thirteen and now,
<v Speaker 14>of course, the night after Final four, February seventeenth, nineteen
<v Speaker 14>ninety seven, Monday Night Raw was live in Nashville as
<v Speaker 14>the ras after pay per views still were back then.
<v Speaker 14>And what do you remember? This is the first time
<v Speaker 14>that WWF championship ever changed hands on Monday Night Raw.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I remember it like it was yesterday. Honest
<v Speaker 5>to god. It was such a it was such a moment.
<v Speaker 5>It's the first time that I can remember where I
<v Speaker 5>was so excited that I got up my feet with
<v Speaker 5>my arms in the air. That's big, I, you know.
<v Speaker 5>And that's when Sid beating Brett, you know, because I
<v Speaker 5>was so sick of Brett. I was so sick of Brett.
<v Speaker 5>And you know when I when I when I heard
<v Speaker 5>that he had won, you know. And again I didn't know.
<v Speaker 5>I think I talked about this before. I didn't know
<v Speaker 5>that he that that. I didn't know anything that happened
<v Speaker 5>regarding Brett and uh and Sean, Like I didn't know
<v Speaker 5>that Sean had fucking released the relinquished the belt. No
<v Speaker 5>fucking clue I learned about that on that raw. I'm
<v Speaker 5>sitting there wondering how the fuck did he become champion
<v Speaker 5>when Seawan was champion last week? Right, And then you
<v Speaker 5>hear about it and you see what happened, and it's
<v Speaker 5>like what the fuck? And yeah, and then I and
<v Speaker 5>then I was just like, oh, of course, you know,
<v Speaker 5>something fucking happens, and of course they go back to Brett.
<v Speaker 5>It's always fucking Brett. Here we go again. And I
<v Speaker 5>was like, they're never going to change the fucking title.
<v Speaker 5>They don't do that shit, They don't fucking do that.
<v Speaker 5>They don't put they don't change it on TV. And
<v Speaker 5>then when they did, I just it was it was glorious. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>that glorious.
<v Speaker 14>At one, two, three hits different back then where the
<v Speaker 14>ref actually registers an official count for a world title
<v Speaker 14>change on live television. I mean even even WCW they
<v Speaker 14>had done world title changes. I think when Paul White
<v Speaker 14>beat flair Ford it was on Nitro, for example. But
<v Speaker 14>for the most part that just didn't happen. You just
<v Speaker 14>didn't get title changes world title changes on free television.
<v Speaker 5>You just didn't know.
<v Speaker 14>And yeah, it was it was definitely as we'll talk
<v Speaker 14>about as we examined that episode of Raw, it was
<v Speaker 14>definitely like their strongest bid to be like, Okay, how
<v Speaker 14>can we format a show where like we drag this
<v Speaker 14>thing out and try to beat Nitro or try to
<v Speaker 14>do well against Nitro. I mean, Nitro was fucking killing
<v Speaker 14>him in February ninety seven. But you know, they tease
<v Speaker 14>it out. They pretend they're going to open that episode
<v Speaker 14>of Raw with the Sid Brett match, and then they
<v Speaker 14>delay it, and then they try to bring it back
<v Speaker 14>at the top of the hour, and then they delay it.
<v Speaker 14>This is a two hour it's actually a very it's
<v Speaker 14>a very clever.
<v Speaker 5>Ratings ploy. Oh yeah, you know, the way that they
<v Speaker 5>the way that they strategize it, it's actually pretty it's
<v Speaker 5>pretty darn clever. Yep. You know, it's definitely it's cheap,
<v Speaker 5>you know, but it's also it's also pretty clever.
<v Speaker 14>And that's another thing about Sid, Like, you know, he
<v Speaker 14>wasn't there when they finally caught fire and started kicking
<v Speaker 14>ww's ass, but he was a key toy in the
<v Speaker 14>toy box to try to figure out what does it
<v Speaker 14>look like to reform that Raw to be more competitive.
<v Speaker 14>He was a guy. He was he was a he
<v Speaker 14>was on that chessboard of guys they moved around, and
<v Speaker 14>you know, even though it didn't succeed, as we'll talk about, necessarily,
<v Speaker 14>this title win for Sid was I think a direct
<v Speaker 14>offspring of the fact that WWF is trying to find
<v Speaker 14>its way to compete against this WCW and Goliath that
<v Speaker 14>was forming, and I'm not sure, you know, I'm not
<v Speaker 14>sure Sid gets the belt. If those pressures weren't in play,
<v Speaker 14>I'm not sure they would go back to him necessarily.
<v Speaker 14>I think it was sort of chicken in the egg.
<v Speaker 14>It was like, we need something huge on raw. It's live,
<v Speaker 14>so it's not in the can, right, so we can
<v Speaker 14>actually make a call on the fly about what would
<v Speaker 14>be most unpredictable, And so Sid winning the title I
<v Speaker 14>think probably penciled out as one of the most impactful
<v Speaker 14>things they could do to see if they could make
<v Speaker 14>a dent on the nWo phenomenon. So Sid again kind
<v Speaker 14>of just like in an advantageous situation that really is
<v Speaker 14>really none of his own doing necessarily. So you wanted
<v Speaker 14>Brett to lose the title on this show because you
<v Speaker 14>were sick of them going back to him, not because
<v Speaker 14>he was now like two and a half months into
<v Speaker 14>crying about how Steve Austin was costing.
<v Speaker 5>Him every ding. No, I wanted him to turn heel
<v Speaker 5>two years prior, if you remember, yeah, ninety five, after
<v Speaker 5>the during the World War I was like, I was
<v Speaker 5>ready for him to turn heel then, and I was
<v Speaker 5>just so sick of him. I was so sick of
<v Speaker 5>him always fucking winning.
<v Speaker 15>You know.
<v Speaker 5>It was ironic to me as a fan that he
<v Speaker 5>was whining about getting screwed and I'm like, you get
<v Speaker 5>everything fucking handed to you. That was my opinion of him. Wow,
<v Speaker 5>that everything he fucking had he always gets. Like he
<v Speaker 5>was he had been the guy since ninety two, and
<v Speaker 5>I was so sick of it at this point, Like
<v Speaker 5>he and he always beat the guys that were my
<v Speaker 5>new Hogan, right, you know, he beat you know, he
<v Speaker 5>he didn't really beat Luger, but he beat Luger in
<v Speaker 5>a different way. Didn't get the fucking strap, you know,
<v Speaker 5>he beat he beat Diesel, you know, and and you
<v Speaker 5>know Sean losing, I mean him losing to Sean was
<v Speaker 5>a big deal for me too. But this was huge.
<v Speaker 5>This was huge because I just I had them. I
<v Speaker 5>was not accepting of of a reality that WW was
<v Speaker 5>willing to switch a belt number one that fast and
<v Speaker 5>number two on TV. Right, I was like, they're just
<v Speaker 5>not going to do that, Like, get the fuck out
<v Speaker 5>of here.
<v Speaker 14>It's amazing happened because of course, after he comes back
<v Speaker 14>at Survivor series, the same show where said takes the
<v Speaker 14>strap off Sean that we've been talking about and beat
<v Speaker 14>Stone Cold and that comeback match clean afterwards, it's an
<v Speaker 14>immediate like campaign by Austin to just constantly sneak attack
<v Speaker 14>Brett Hart every single week. And so this is the
<v Speaker 14>beginning of that brilliant Brett Heel character who was justified
<v Speaker 14>in what he was saying. He was being wronged. He
<v Speaker 14>was being yep, you know what I mean. He was
<v Speaker 14>being cheated out of opportunities to get back on track cleanly.
<v Speaker 14>Because this guy made me happy. It made me happy
<v Speaker 14>that he was being wronged. And they got it that
<v Speaker 14>they leaned in. They said, Okay, even though on paper,
<v Speaker 14>Brett's the one on the right here, the people actually
<v Speaker 14>are responding strongly when Sean, when Steve Austin does this
<v Speaker 14>to Brett. So maybe Brett should just start being a
<v Speaker 14>cry baby as opposed to somebody that has like legitimate grievance.
<v Speaker 14>He's not the guy who's going to just turn the
<v Speaker 14>other cheek. He's the guy because I already felt that
<v Speaker 14>he was entitled right and so now he, like you said,
<v Speaker 14>they're leaning into that they're actually having him be, you know,
<v Speaker 14>play an entitled bitch. And if you don't think that
<v Speaker 14>part of the psychology here, part of the psyche here
<v Speaker 14>is Vince knowing that he just gave Brett a fatter
<v Speaker 14>contract than he ever thought he'd ever have to give
<v Speaker 14>a rest and that that's not kind of bleeding into
<v Speaker 14>how they're presenting Brett, then you've got another thing coming.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, Brett even picked up on the fact that
<v Speaker 14>after that Survivors Series match, which was a great match,
<v Speaker 14>they start talking on television like Brett started to look
<v Speaker 14>a little tired, started to look a little rusty, started
<v Speaker 14>to look like perhaps his better days were behind him.
<v Speaker 14>It immediately as soon as they signed that contract. I
<v Speaker 14>feel like the process begins in the way Vince's mind works,
<v Speaker 14>The process begins of trying to find flaws that don't
<v Speaker 14>justify that paycheck. You know, of course he's seeing everything
<v Speaker 14>not through the lens of what is Brett Heart doing
<v Speaker 14>out there, but his Brett Heart doing enough to justify
<v Speaker 14>what he was able to back me into a corner
<v Speaker 14>and force me to essentially pay him.
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, there's nobody who could you know, live up to.
<v Speaker 14>That well, especially considering how poor the company's fortunes were
<v Speaker 14>at the time. I mean, Austin was up to the
<v Speaker 14>task because he started generating revenue on par with no
<v Speaker 14>other and it's like, okay, well he's clearly running. But
<v Speaker 14>this is a time when they're in the fucking tank.
<v Speaker 14>And because Vince felt like Brett going to WCW would
<v Speaker 14>have been like the final referendum on WWF's lifeblood, like
<v Speaker 14>all right, it's over, Like they can't even keep red heart.
<v Speaker 14>He went deeper into his pocket than he had that
<v Speaker 14>twenty year deal two and a half million a year,
<v Speaker 14>whatever the hell it was. And and so it's it's
<v Speaker 14>amazing how suddenly within weeks Brett is a cry baby
<v Speaker 14>on TV yep, and Brett is entitled, and Brett is
<v Speaker 14>whining and he's really good at it because he probably
<v Speaker 14>kind of has a bit of that streak of his personality.
<v Speaker 14>I'm sure they're like, oh this, you know them, it's
<v Speaker 14>always like, you know, the way the guy pisses them off.
<v Speaker 14>Behind the scenes, they find ways to sneak that into
<v Speaker 14>the television presentation, because of course, how they process someone
<v Speaker 14>being able to get to them is all right, we'll
<v Speaker 14>just we'll make money off the fact that we can't
<v Speaker 14>stand the guy.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, he's being a bitch, so let's make
<v Speaker 5>him a bitch, put him on TV and right because
<v Speaker 5>but Brton, I think you're a bitch, so I think
<v Speaker 5>you'll play a great bitch on TV. Let's talk about it,
<v Speaker 5>let's talk about let's brainstorm.
<v Speaker 14>And when they get back, you know, think about it
<v Speaker 14>a Bretton Sean, go at it.
<v Speaker 5>It.
<v Speaker 14>It's time that that's Sid. You know, Sid's in the mix. Sid,
<v Speaker 14>that's his pay per view main event, was first ever
<v Speaker 14>a pay per view title defense main event. So it's
<v Speaker 14>it's uh, it's fascinating to adjust your lens on this
<v Speaker 14>off talked about, you know, the covered ad nauseum time
<v Speaker 14>period and adjust your lens to see it through what
<v Speaker 14>Sid was actually out there doing and what Sid was
<v Speaker 14>out there saying. And that's what we're gonna do here.
<v Speaker 14>As we enter a pivotal point in our examination of
<v Speaker 14>the career of Sid, we do have to remind you,
<v Speaker 14>of course, that this is all made possible by the
<v Speaker 14>fact that there were listeners among you who aren't bitch
<v Speaker 14>asked motherfuckers, yes, who understand and that if you don't
<v Speaker 14>pay for something, it dies.
<v Speaker 5>And there are people who aren't entitled bitches like Brett Hart.
<v Speaker 14>Right, well, we'll keep podcasting for you. We see you
<v Speaker 14>out there, but you can hardly blame us for taking
<v Speaker 14>the appropriate time each and every time we take the
<v Speaker 14>microphone to remind you that the only reason TLFX is here,
<v Speaker 14>and the only reason we can go this hard for
<v Speaker 14>this long, is because people decide. You know what, I'm
<v Speaker 14>not forced to pay for this, therefore I will, right, yes,
<v Speaker 14>I'm not forced to pay for it, Therefore I will.
<v Speaker 14>And patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan is the
<v Speaker 14>way you can oil the engine and keep all this
<v Speaker 14>going and get a ton in return. I mean, it's
<v Speaker 14>not just what tipjar here, folks, a ton in return,
<v Speaker 14>not the least of which boss let them fucking know
<v Speaker 14>about it. I can't believe you made me watch the
<v Speaker 14>latest installing in Scary movie Season under the cinemat.
<v Speaker 5>Terrified Too Motherfuckers.
<v Speaker 14>Starring Chris Jericho, but also starring some of the most
<v Speaker 14>gory and insane violence I've ever seen in cinema.
<v Speaker 5>And not only that, but I also you know, for
<v Speaker 5>those who who aren't a part of it, who who
<v Speaker 5>missed out thus far. I also made him watch every
<v Speaker 5>single gory portion of the previous films, like the highlighted ones,
<v Speaker 5>in order to build up to the fact that we're
<v Speaker 5>going to see something even worse. Well, you need context,
<v Speaker 5>right exactly. Of course, context is king and controversy creates cash.
<v Speaker 5>And what was the story? What was it? Arisa?
<v Speaker 14>He had a we did it. We made a fun
<v Speaker 14>of it in t n H. He had like an
<v Speaker 14>acronym for like story suspense.
<v Speaker 5>I'll find it. Oh he did, Yes, he did. A
<v Speaker 5>fucking idiot, But we got one more when we're coming up.
<v Speaker 5>We're going to take a week off this week and
<v Speaker 5>we're going to bring to you on Halloween Day proper
<v Speaker 5>and absolutely one of the best. And that's all I'm
<v Speaker 5>gonna say. It's one of the best. And I'm I
<v Speaker 5>am so fucking excited. You want to talk about SARSA.
<v Speaker 14>You want to talk about story, anticipation, reality, suspense and
<v Speaker 14>action or surprise and action. Sorry, we're talking about the
<v Speaker 14>capper for Scary Movie Season twenty twenty four under the
<v Speaker 14>cinemat And.
<v Speaker 5>Then we'll bring it back and we will conclude our
<v Speaker 5>James Bond journey during November and inciting times.
<v Speaker 14>Mpasize if you could. When can folks expect that final
<v Speaker 14>scary movie season installment?
<v Speaker 5>Halloween? Halloween Night, Halloween Day? Oh, Halloween. Halloween's on a
<v Speaker 5>weekday this week? Right, Yeah, it's on Thursday.
<v Speaker 14>So you know what to do, solar system, Right, you're
<v Speaker 14>at work. You know, Halloween when it falls on a workday,
<v Speaker 14>no one takes work that seriously, you know how to
<v Speaker 14>dial yourself in for trick or treating that night when
<v Speaker 14>you're at the at the cubicle.
<v Speaker 5>Bring That's all I gotta say is bring those fucking earbuds.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, make sure those sons of bitches are charged. On
<v Speaker 14>All Hallows Eve.
<v Speaker 5>It's going to be It's I can't wait. I honestly,
<v Speaker 5>I can't wait for your reaction. That's what I can't
<v Speaker 5>wait for. That's gonna be the fun part.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, don't forget folks, I don't know the movie.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I keep it a very very very deep,
<v Speaker 5>dark secret until we reveal it. It's actually kind of
<v Speaker 5>funny because in a weird way, they all know the
<v Speaker 5>movie before you know the movie, because obviously the movie
<v Speaker 5>is must I'm going like for a complete surprise. The
<v Speaker 5>movie obviously is in the episode title, and then you know,
<v Speaker 5>then you get surprised, right right. It's really cool. It's
<v Speaker 5>actually fun. I always like that about it me too. Yeah.
<v Speaker 14>I love not really knowing what I'm prepared for. I
<v Speaker 14>remember when you surprised me last Christmas movie season with
<v Speaker 14>It's a Wonderful Life, Yeah, and I like basically had
<v Speaker 14>to say hold on and I had to run upstairs and
<v Speaker 14>get my It's a Wonderful Life book because I have
<v Speaker 14>no idea. I'm like hustling looking through the bookcase. So
<v Speaker 14>I can't wait for that too. I mean, that's that's
<v Speaker 14>too far around the corner.
<v Speaker 5>It's right there, It's right there. Cap off the Bond
<v Speaker 5>Journey Christmas movie. I mean, come on, folks, what the
<v Speaker 5>fuck is wrong with you? Like, just you know what
<v Speaker 5>to do?
<v Speaker 14>And further to the Christmas point, by the way, that
<v Speaker 14>seriously fuck you for terrifier too. I cannot I saw
<v Speaker 14>the art the clown mask in a Halloween store and
<v Speaker 14>I was like.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can't unsee that shit. It's all over the place.
<v Speaker 14>I'm standing in the aisle in a trance looking at
<v Speaker 14>his mask like I'm four years old again.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's a petrifying individual petrifying.
<v Speaker 14>And I'm like thinking to myself, like, when is it
<v Speaker 14>ever okay to show that to somebody else? You know,
<v Speaker 14>like even an adult, I'd hesitate to say you need
<v Speaker 14>to see this.
<v Speaker 5>It's almost like I've got a friend who, like he'd
<v Speaker 5>never seen it before, he'd never seen any of them before.
<v Speaker 5>And he had a buddy who was like, I want
<v Speaker 5>to take you to go see Terrifier three, but you
<v Speaker 5>got to watch the other ones to get up to speed,
<v Speaker 5>and he was just completely grossed out by how nasty
<v Speaker 5>it was.
<v Speaker 14>Was he just actually hesitant to even go to the
<v Speaker 14>theater and see it.
<v Speaker 5>No, no, he wanted to, but he was worrying, why
<v Speaker 5>why do I want to go?
<v Speaker 14>It's not unlike wrestling. It's like a secret language of like,
<v Speaker 14>you know, terrifier. Yeah, Like you have to look at
<v Speaker 14>someone and be like, Okay, they enjoy it for what
<v Speaker 14>it is, and they're not going to judge me when
<v Speaker 14>I you know, when I tell them that I watched it,
<v Speaker 14>you know.
<v Speaker 5>And it's also like once you know, you know, situation
<v Speaker 5>if you know you know, and that's that's it with Terrifying.
<v Speaker 14>Well, the key scene from part one that you made
<v Speaker 14>me watch from the first movie.
<v Speaker 16>You know.
<v Speaker 14>I was talking to people saying, like, did you see
<v Speaker 14>the scene in the first one? You have to see
<v Speaker 14>you have say anything else. Either they know or they don't,
<v Speaker 14>And if they don't, it's not really appropriate to start
<v Speaker 14>describing it.
<v Speaker 5>No, it's not. But if they do, it's like they've
<v Speaker 5>It's like it's shared trauma, is what it is.
<v Speaker 14>It's shared trauma. And it's something that was full on,
<v Speaker 14>full throttle lap serendipity in that people started putting together
<v Speaker 14>in real time that this qualify just as we had
<v Speaker 14>made plans already to record it.
<v Speaker 5>And let me tell you, so that was actually planned.
<v Speaker 5>So keep in mind everything that has happened on Scary
<v Speaker 5>Movie Season this year was intended for last year because
<v Speaker 5>but then I booked that play and I just I
<v Speaker 5>didn't have time to put it all together. But all
<v Speaker 5>this was scheduled for last year, so it was like
<v Speaker 5>already there, and it was already in place, and I
<v Speaker 5>was already set to go, and then I had to
<v Speaker 5>push it off. I'm like, all right, well, well, just you know,
<v Speaker 5>I'll push it off to next year. So Terrifier too
<v Speaker 5>was in play last year. Amazing let alone the fact
<v Speaker 5>that there's a sequel out right now, you know, that's
<v Speaker 5>also the kicker, that there's a fucking sequel out as
<v Speaker 5>we're you know, as we were recording it, I had
<v Speaker 5>no fucking idea there was a sequel being made.
<v Speaker 14>It's it's not for the faint of heart. No, it's
<v Speaker 14>not one that I encourage people to watch the movie
<v Speaker 14>as we watch it with us. I mean, for some
<v Speaker 14>our description will be plenty, but you know, do so.
<v Speaker 5>For some even if you. Some of the comments too
<v Speaker 5>were like, you know, I thought that just listening to
<v Speaker 5>the audio would be okay, But it's as bad. It's
<v Speaker 5>as bad. It's as bad.
<v Speaker 14>Ye when you hear like the suffering and the screaming
<v Speaker 14>absolutely and the blood chortling noises.
<v Speaker 1>It's the La Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that
<v Speaker 1>knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed Fan.
<v Speaker 1>He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno
<v Speaker 1>m JP soro.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 14>And that's another thing, the comments like we don't sell
<v Speaker 14>that enough. So much fun to watch Solar System members
<v Speaker 14>go back and forth on comments underneath the audio files
<v Speaker 14>on Patreon, but you can't really participate in unless you pledge.
<v Speaker 14>But it's so fun man to see what people pick
<v Speaker 14>up on some of the notes people make, some of
<v Speaker 14>the corrections, some of the extra resources people point you to.
<v Speaker 14>It's like, so it's so gratifying to do all that
<v Speaker 14>work to put it out and then everyone just picks
<v Speaker 14>up the ball and tries to make it even better.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, it's amazing. So it's absolutely amazing. It's so
<v Speaker 5>it is very gratifying when all that happens.
<v Speaker 14>It's how we know it's real and long may continue.
<v Speaker 14>And it's a busy schedule because on the monthly premium
<v Speaker 14>live event calls that we do of the modern WWE shows,
<v Speaker 14>that's starting to kick into a year. On another level,
<v Speaker 14>you've got Crown Jewel and you've got sur River Series November.
<v Speaker 14>Of course, the River Series always a big show right
<v Speaker 14>around Turkey Day, so I'm sure we're going to be
<v Speaker 14>fat and happy going into that one. It looks like
<v Speaker 14>they're going to do the Saturday Night's Main Event as
<v Speaker 14>a December p l E the return of snm E,
<v Speaker 14>so that that qualifies.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it does. Live College doesn't. Uh Yeah, Live College indeed,
<v Speaker 5>Live College Podcast. You're damn right, So we're looking forward
<v Speaker 5>to that. As mentioned, Scary movie season becomes James Bond
<v Speaker 5>conclusion becomes Christmas movie season.
<v Speaker 14>Oh yes, Wrestle Mamia. Wrestle Mamia. Wrestle Mamia for the
<v Speaker 14>moat tier. Only the things that are coming, the things
<v Speaker 14>that are about to be unloaded.
<v Speaker 5>It's it's it's a non stop barrage of of of
<v Speaker 5>Mama sorrow.
<v Speaker 14>Yeahther around the hearth with Mama sorrow this holiday season.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, what more can I say? I don't know,
<v Speaker 14>but I'll try to say more. How about that versions you.
<v Speaker 5>Know, she's she's a she's a gem. Some people have
<v Speaker 5>called her a national treasure. It's saying they're wrong. I
<v Speaker 5>think that's hilarious to say. But I'm not saying. You know,
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying they're wrong. People would have just seen
<v Speaker 5>let me see here, I think, what's the moment. Okay,
<v Speaker 5>so people, oh wow, you know this? Uh, this is
<v Speaker 5>I actually did this. I'm trying to think, Yeah, I
<v Speaker 5>did this before before we were doing Terry Funk, all right,
<v Speaker 5>and I had, you know, with the idea of Halloween
<v Speaker 5>themed matches throughout October. I had my mom watch Rick
<v Speaker 5>Flair and Sting versus Terry Funk in the Great Moda
<v Speaker 5>Wow from Halloween Havock.
<v Speaker 14>I'll wait to see her reaction to the electrified cage. Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>I'm electrified of the thought. And again, for those unaware,
<v Speaker 14>that is an exclusive benefit for our Mote Tier members,
<v Speaker 14>the highest tier members. It's it's rich for a lot
<v Speaker 14>of people's blood, and we respect that and appreciate that.
<v Speaker 14>We appreciate all of our patrons in any denomination, but
<v Speaker 14>that's a special group that deserves special treatment. And Mama
<v Speaker 14>Sorrow says everything a mother should say while watching professional
<v Speaker 14>wrestling with her son.
<v Speaker 5>That's what I'll say.
<v Speaker 14>And if that's your if that's something that appeals to you,
<v Speaker 14>if you know kind of what we're saying when we
<v Speaker 14>say that, you might want to even just sample the
<v Speaker 14>vote Tier to get to get a flavor of what's
<v Speaker 14>going on with Wrestle Mamia. But add free versions.
<v Speaker 5>Of the show.
<v Speaker 14>You get deep dives or part twos a day before
<v Speaker 14>anybody else does. There's absolutely no arguing the utility of it,
<v Speaker 14>and we thank everybody deeply for their support. On on
<v Speaker 14>patreon dot com slash the Lapsed Fan. There is also
<v Speaker 14>there's also I don't know there there's there's an anticipation
<v Speaker 14>in the year there's a big vote coming up, is
<v Speaker 14>there not. Yes, there is probably the most important vote
<v Speaker 14>of most of our lifetimes. I would agree it's the
<v Speaker 14>most important vote. It is the tlf X Games King
<v Speaker 14>of the Cast. We are down to four competitors to
<v Speaker 14>determine the greatest character in the history of the Lapsed
<v Speaker 14>Fan podcast has voted on via X by all of
<v Speaker 14>you out there in listenership land. It has come down
<v Speaker 14>colapsed Jesse Ventura versus lapsed Kevin Nash on one side,
<v Speaker 14>and on the other side, lapsed tell In Hart versus
<v Speaker 14>lapsed Vince. And we've already delivered somewhat of a sizzle
<v Speaker 14>reel to the feed for those that are trying to
<v Speaker 14>get a flavor from Highlights Pass. And I was crying
<v Speaker 14>listening to some of them, crying listening back to some
<v Speaker 14>of the things, some of the words we have put
<v Speaker 14>in those characters' mouth sposs over the years.
<v Speaker 5>I actually I'm always you know, I always say, and
<v Speaker 5>we've said it a million times that with how how
<v Speaker 5>long these shows go and how long we record, that
<v Speaker 5>shit literally comes out of the mouth and it's forgotten.
<v Speaker 5>That's just the way it is, just the nature of
<v Speaker 5>the beast. It's very rare that something and actually most
<v Speaker 5>often something reads not because we did it, but because
<v Speaker 5>it resonates with all of you.
<v Speaker 14>And we hear about it. It comes back to us. Right,
<v Speaker 14>It's a great it's a great mechanism to determine like
<v Speaker 14>what really what really was gold is? Like do we
<v Speaker 14>hear about it again?
<v Speaker 5>Yep? And I I I was, I sat there like
<v Speaker 5>I cannot. I mean, honestly, it was. It was hard
<v Speaker 5>choosing things because you're like, well, wait a minute, there's this,
<v Speaker 5>and then I'm I didn't know where to go. Sometimes
<v Speaker 5>well you go.
<v Speaker 14>In thinking, you know, you go in thinking, you know
<v Speaker 14>the high points based on what gets set back to
<v Speaker 14>you the most, what gets referenced back to you the most,
<v Speaker 14>if you know, like a Twitter thread about what's the
<v Speaker 14>greatest thing or what should I start? If I getting
<v Speaker 14>into the podcast and those things, and over time those
<v Speaker 14>kind of cows find your mind. It's like, okay, like
<v Speaker 14>we'll put it to the people, like it's not my
<v Speaker 14>sense of what the best stuff was, it's what do
<v Speaker 14>people always mention when I asked independent of us and
<v Speaker 14>and then you get in you'll wait a minute, But
<v Speaker 14>this is not one of those. And this is funnier
<v Speaker 14>than all that shit. Yeah yeah, and I totally forgot
<v Speaker 14>about it, and the listenership didn't put it on the
<v Speaker 14>mount rushmore and it's like this is fun this is better.
<v Speaker 5>Or or to the point that I didn't even know
<v Speaker 5>this existed. That's the part that's always.
<v Speaker 14>Well, that's part of why it's better is because you
<v Speaker 14>don't even know where. You forgot where it's going. It's
<v Speaker 14>new to you even though you said it. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 14>mean you got to think about sometimes us like getting
<v Speaker 14>delirious at two thirty in the morning, like we're we're
<v Speaker 14>not always uh, we don't always have full control of
<v Speaker 14>our faculties. No, And I'm not only just talking about
<v Speaker 14>when Boss gets drunk and falls asleep on the live calls.
<v Speaker 14>I'm talking about just any old regular episode of the
<v Speaker 14>show where we're just marching through all the material we've
<v Speaker 14>prepared and it gets us, it gets a little ridiculous,
<v Speaker 14>you know.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it does. You know, there comes a moment
<v Speaker 5>where it's like I don't even you know, I'm just gone.
<v Speaker 5>I'm just completely gone, and like simpy, like say, and
<v Speaker 5>you know it's it's uncontrollable.
<v Speaker 14>It's uncontrollable and U and we had a great time.
<v Speaker 14>We're visiting all of that and kind of resurfacing kind
<v Speaker 14>of the heart of some of these characters. You know,
<v Speaker 14>it would have been way too tall of in order
<v Speaker 14>to do that with all thirty two participants in the
<v Speaker 14>very beginning of this tournament, but we've whittled it down.
<v Speaker 14>Now is the time to buckle in and make a
<v Speaker 14>real decision here and keep it locked to our X
<v Speaker 14>account and our socials for information on when the vote's
<v Speaker 14>going to drop and when you're going to get your
<v Speaker 14>chance to decide who the final two are. I mean,
<v Speaker 14>it doesn't get more t LFX than this, It really
<v Speaker 14>does not. And we need to send a hearty thank
<v Speaker 14>you to our friends over at Garage Beer who have
<v Speaker 14>helped make all this effort worth it to put together
<v Speaker 14>this tournament for everybody and to deliver as we have
<v Speaker 14>so very very appropriate and very exciting. As the X
<v Speaker 14>Games continues, two unfold on X appropriately enough, and we're
<v Speaker 14>heading into the holiday season and it's now officially starting
<v Speaker 14>to feel a little late. Just to send us yeah,
<v Speaker 14>the gifts qualifying you for the show. I mean, Boss
<v Speaker 14>gets out that post office as much as you can,
<v Speaker 14>but I mean it's it's getting tight.
<v Speaker 5>We gotta put it.
<v Speaker 14>We gotta put a data on the calendar soon when
<v Speaker 14>we're gonna get together around the Christmas hearth and open
<v Speaker 14>gifts from you the Solar System for the third annual
<v Speaker 14>Lapsed Fan Christmas Show. The best fucking thing on any
<v Speaker 14>podcast anywhere as far as I'm concerned.
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, there's no question about it. I mean they're a
<v Speaker 5>mix of of like funny, thoughtful, and ridiculous. That's perfectly
<v Speaker 5>and what more, what more do you need?
<v Speaker 14>That's a lapsed Christmas to me? Yeah, dare I say
<v Speaker 14>elapsed Xmas brother ten years in? I mean that's what
<v Speaker 14>we're looking at. Damn right, tlf X mess I'm here,
<v Speaker 14>Damn right, you're here, and you can be part of
<v Speaker 14>the show as we sit together, uh to unwrap gifts
<v Speaker 14>from the Solar System and just react to what we're
<v Speaker 14>seeing and just revel on the fact that you know,
<v Speaker 14>I think more than anything, it's not that this is
<v Speaker 14>the greatest thing on any podcast. It it speaks to
<v Speaker 14>the power of podcasting more than than any other thing.
<v Speaker 14>I think you could you could record agreed, because this
<v Speaker 14>is all made possible by the fact that we've taken
<v Speaker 14>to the mic and had had You know, we're given
<v Speaker 14>reasons to believe that if we kept going we would
<v Speaker 14>find kindred spirits out there. We would find people who
<v Speaker 14>were like, yes, this is what I need in my life.
<v Speaker 14>Here's the proof that I mean it when I say that.
<v Speaker 14>And as these packages come into the post office box,
<v Speaker 14>it's just such a such a heartwarming reminder that we
<v Speaker 14>are doing something that that really brings the good out
<v Speaker 14>in people and the best out. Yeah, and again, please
<v Speaker 14>don't overdo it like we've been blown away. And we
<v Speaker 14>all know that part of the magic of Christmas is excess.
<v Speaker 14>But man, we don't need four things from everybody. I mean,
<v Speaker 14>if you really feel you need to send it to us,
<v Speaker 14>if you have like a you know, if it's part
<v Speaker 14>of the execution of the gift, I mean, don't. We're
<v Speaker 14>not going to discourage people. But man, we always end
<v Speaker 14>up with way more than we know to do it.
<v Speaker 5>Oh god, it's it's unbelievable.
<v Speaker 14>You gotta remember we have to do something with this stuff.
<v Speaker 14>Aver we parcel things out aboundst each other, we're like,
<v Speaker 14>what are you doing this?
<v Speaker 5>What are you do with this?
<v Speaker 14>It's it's quite it's quite an experience.
<v Speaker 5>The consumables are one thing I'll accept and accept and
<v Speaker 5>really accept the fact that some ship's going to get
<v Speaker 5>burned over time. Yeah, or that night, no burned. Hey,
<v Speaker 5>you're going to send us a Jeff Hardy cut out,
<v Speaker 5>a cardboard cutout. It's going right in the fucking fire.
<v Speaker 14>Last year, boss Man literally burned a fat headset.
<v Speaker 5>I ever post that video on him. If I post
<v Speaker 5>that video, you know I haven't seen it, so there's
<v Speaker 5>no way to take the whole thing. I should will
<v Speaker 5>put that up around Christmas.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, that'll be a reminder last year at this time,
<v Speaker 14>talk about the hearth, right, damn right. Maybe if there's
<v Speaker 14>anything burnable we get this year, we have to save
<v Speaker 14>it and burn it during recording of next year, and
<v Speaker 14>that'll be our fire, our fireplace.
<v Speaker 5>Of course, that means I get to keep it great.
<v Speaker 14>And we know that came from the homie Big Steve,
<v Speaker 14>who also gave us Jerry Lawler half naked with.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, which got me almost in trouble with my wife.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, he already told us that this one's a doozy,
<v Speaker 14>and he's it's on the way. We've been informed and
<v Speaker 14>so if you want to be part of this, you
<v Speaker 14>probably just have a a week or two to get in.
<v Speaker 5>Every yeah, I will conveniently not make it to the
<v Speaker 5>uh yeah, the po anytime soon time the par officer
<v Speaker 5>of course, you mean, yeah, right.
<v Speaker 14>The address to send us your Christmas packages is the
<v Speaker 14>lapsed Fan seven to ten Main Street, south PO, Box
<v Speaker 14>one one nine, Southbury, Connecticut, zero six four eight eight. Again,
<v Speaker 14>the lapsed Fan seven ten Main Street, south PO, Box
<v Speaker 14>one one nine, Southbury, s O U T H b
<v Speaker 14>U R Y, Connecticut, zero six four eight eight. And
<v Speaker 14>we really look forward to gathering around. And it's because
<v Speaker 14>of you that we do it. You know, it's like yep,
<v Speaker 14>it's guaranteed time in the same room, which creates creates
<v Speaker 14>a certain podcast alchemy and magic that is very hard
<v Speaker 14>to create over our distant connection here.
<v Speaker 5>What we've been in this right, and it doesn't you know,
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't happen as much as it used to. So
<v Speaker 5>that's right, that's right.
<v Speaker 14>Life is life is intense, life is insane. But because
<v Speaker 14>we know you mean business, we mean business. It's not
<v Speaker 14>more complicated than that. So we look forward to that
<v Speaker 14>and uh, it's stef only time to up the urgency
<v Speaker 14>around getting in because I know folks really would like
<v Speaker 14>to have their gifts in our hands so they can
<v Speaker 14>get our in person reaction as opposed to, you know,
<v Speaker 14>weeks later we connect remotely and then open it over
<v Speaker 14>a video chat, which we feel obliged to do because
<v Speaker 14>people were kind enough to take the time and send.
<v Speaker 14>But you are missing that magic window where you really
<v Speaker 14>get that organic reaction. So that's your thing. Those are
<v Speaker 14>your directions. And if you're starting to think about stocking
<v Speaker 14>stuff first for the lapsed fan in your life or
<v Speaker 14>things to put on your own personal list, we have
<v Speaker 14>no shortage of shwag available at Pro Wrestling Teas dot com,
<v Speaker 14>Slash the Lapsed Fan, and our store.
<v Speaker 5>Over at Chopped Teas. Boss Yes, and.
<v Speaker 14>As we embark on a further examination on the life
<v Speaker 14>and times of Sid, the Vienna shirts I think are
<v Speaker 14>going to be a real hit this Christmas season.
<v Speaker 5>Oh I think so. I think everyone's going to be
<v Speaker 5>in the hunt for some Vienna's. Come what's up there?
<v Speaker 5>Let them know come Christmas, we got a couple and
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's it's so hard to keep track. Two
<v Speaker 5>of all, I have a list on my phone of
<v Speaker 5>the things that I need to get to produce. So
<v Speaker 5>hopefully before Christmas, all that stuff will be all those
<v Speaker 5>shirts will be up there, so you guys can get
<v Speaker 5>on it. Yeah, don't don't.
<v Speaker 14>Don't lose sight of the fact that in the Progresling
<v Speaker 14>Tea store, this stuff is hand drawn by the boss.
<v Speaker 14>Like he Yeah, he personally creates the look of the shirt.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And you know it's like it's it's it's good,
<v Speaker 5>it's bad, it doesn't matter. But right now we got obviously,
<v Speaker 5>we got Sid's Vienna's. We got Sid's actual Vicious Viennas
<v Speaker 5>sausages available, uh to to swallow. And we'll also have.
<v Speaker 17>The and I send him an autograph picture.
<v Speaker 5>And then there's a course, the the the Saint Vincent's
<v Speaker 5>softball shirt softball team, which is the team sponsored by
<v Speaker 5>Sid's Vicious Vienna's.
<v Speaker 14>Well, we definitely have Sid's Memphis Church in our hearts
<v Speaker 14>and minds this Christmas squad.
<v Speaker 5>Let's just say that for now, and not not to
<v Speaker 5>mention the fact that we also have an old one
<v Speaker 5>Sid's softball squad. Yes, that's an older bit ye sponsored
<v Speaker 5>by Michler's Deli, Sterling Golden Pharmaceuticals and I am the
<v Speaker 5>s m A. Youve got to need it, and the
<v Speaker 5>incredible line of other uh uh with with you know.
<v Speaker 5>You know what I love, honestly is that sometimes I
<v Speaker 5>look back at the shirts and I'm like, I know
<v Speaker 5>that meant something, but I don't know what, Like, like,
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking a bit could have this one right here. Okay,
<v Speaker 5>it's a gray shirt with three p's on it and
<v Speaker 5>it says Paradigm Partner Platforms. I don't know what I remember.
<v Speaker 5>I remember like thinking, oh, I got to make a
<v Speaker 5>shirt out of that, but I don't know why, Like,
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what that is.
<v Speaker 14>That's a mission for our pals at lasts, you know,
<v Speaker 14>they can look that one up because it's it's hard,
<v Speaker 14>it's hard to remember all this stuff. But yeah, sometimes
<v Speaker 14>it just occurs to us. It's just like making a
<v Speaker 14>shirt that was fucking that was a weird moment. And
<v Speaker 14>sometimes it's a minute and a half that spawns a shirt.
<v Speaker 14>Sometimes it's an entire journey that spawns a shirt. But
<v Speaker 14>you damn right, definitely a lot to consider, and if
<v Speaker 14>you're if you're looking for something sort of upscale and
<v Speaker 14>price in terms of like you know, the kind of
<v Speaker 14>like specialty gear that you can wear outside of just
<v Speaker 14>like a T shirt. You do need to check out
<v Speaker 14>our chopp stores. The Homie Dicky is just doing incredible
<v Speaker 14>work and the stuff he's putting up there is just like,
<v Speaker 14>it's so flattering to see a pail of that level
<v Speaker 14>and quality, from jackets to hoodies to hats, all that
<v Speaker 14>stuff is with the logo on it is amazing.
<v Speaker 5>And to you know, be able to finally produce shirts that,
<v Speaker 5>you know, for reasons beyond our control, were denied by
<v Speaker 5>Yes pro wrestling teas and be able to have shit
<v Speaker 5>up there, that is just I mean, I can't. It's
<v Speaker 5>absolutely breathtaking to see the ship that he's created, let
<v Speaker 5>alone the Kreme de la Creme, the Piece the Resistance,
<v Speaker 5>the Wonderful, the Wonderful Varsity jacket.
<v Speaker 14>As Bark uncovering the first Raw is War where those
<v Speaker 14>jackets were created. That's right, so amazing stuff over in
<v Speaker 14>the chop Tea store as well. Cameo if you want
<v Speaker 14>to put your co chairs to work, but mostly the
<v Speaker 14>boss yeah, honestly, and just you know, decide laps can
<v Speaker 14>and put words in the mouthls of some of the
<v Speaker 14>Rogue's gallery of lapsed characters, or just have your co
<v Speaker 14>chairman send holiday greetings or anything else, happy birthday wishes,
<v Speaker 14>whatever the case may be. Cameo dot com slash the
<v Speaker 14>Lapsed Fan is the place to do that. And one
<v Speaker 14>last piece of business on this front, shout out to Gabe.
<v Speaker 14>We've been trying to keep you up to date on
<v Speaker 14>Gabe's condition. You know, we've shared the information about the
<v Speaker 14>GoFundMe to help his family out as he went through
<v Speaker 14>open heart surgery. As we understand it, the procedure is complete,
<v Speaker 14>he is home, he is recovering. It is a slog
<v Speaker 14>I read a recent post of his, and you know,
<v Speaker 14>the fatigue is unlike any It is unlike no other.
<v Speaker 5>You know, you can't imagine, I really cannot imagine.
<v Speaker 14>Just your home. You're recuperating, but you can't you can't
<v Speaker 14>behave as if you're back on track for a lot
<v Speaker 14>longer than I think people would probably appreciate having not
<v Speaker 14>gone through something like this. So the long and short
<v Speaker 14>of it is, we're we're thrilled that one of the
<v Speaker 14>great lapsed fans of all time is on the mend
<v Speaker 14>and came out the other side of this thing. But
<v Speaker 14>further do keep them in mind this Christmas season, and
<v Speaker 14>if you find it in your heart earn your wallet
<v Speaker 14>to help, or help even more than you already have.
<v Speaker 14>Just go to Google, type and Gabe Yoakam go fund
<v Speaker 14>me fundraiser Yoakum is yocum and see if the solar
<v Speaker 14>system can't help make it, you know, a successful Christmas
<v Speaker 14>over there for those fine folks. That's what we're about,
<v Speaker 14>that's what we're here to do. And the reason the
<v Speaker 14>reason we're in a position to call out things like
<v Speaker 14>that is because we podcast, and we podcast hard. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 14>And I think it's time to pick up the most
<v Speaker 14>significant and medi part of the Psycho One's career, don't you, boss.
<v Speaker 5>I think this is what we've all been waiting for,
<v Speaker 5>the Revolutionary One. That's what Lutionary one too for them.
<v Speaker 5>That's when no one's run down. So yet I issued
<v Speaker 5>the call. I said, why do I think they used
<v Speaker 5>to call sid the Revolutionary One on WWE television and
<v Speaker 5>no one's found any example of it, So I just
<v Speaker 5>apparently made it up like VK Thunderliker as I do
<v Speaker 5>feel like you did tell me you made it up. Well,
<v Speaker 5>I had to.
<v Speaker 14>I had to conclude that because yeah, I've never found
<v Speaker 14>I feel like I've watched everything back by this point
<v Speaker 14>that he did that I would have would have remembered.
<v Speaker 14>You know, I'm not saying I watched everything he ever did,
<v Speaker 14>but I didn't watch everything back when I was that age.
<v Speaker 14>I mean we're talking seven eight years old, so there's
<v Speaker 14>only so many shows that would have left that imprint
<v Speaker 14>on my mind. Of course, and we talked about Sid
<v Speaker 14>in Vader at Buried Alive and in a shoot interview
<v Speaker 14>that Sid did with our video he got he got
<v Speaker 14>more into it than we even did on the Buried
<v Speaker 14>a Live episode. In terms of how the Chess piece
<v Speaker 14>has moved around to put Sid in position to become
<v Speaker 14>champion at the end of nineteen ninety six that there's
<v Speaker 14>been I think people that have kind of poop pooed
<v Speaker 14>the notion that Vader was actually going to win the championship.
<v Speaker 14>I'm pretty sure Bruce Is kind of said on his
<v Speaker 14>podcast that the idea that it was set in stone
<v Speaker 14>Vader was going to take the title and headline Survivor
<v Speaker 14>series as kind of overstated. But that's not how Sid
<v Speaker 14>puts it and here's here's what's going to get us
<v Speaker 14>oriented heading into his big November ninety sixth victory.
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I'll give you. You know, I don't think a
<v Speaker 15>lot of people remember this. What they call that was
<v Speaker 15>a tweener are in between baby face and hill, and
<v Speaker 15>that was somebody who could work with baby faces in hills.
<v Speaker 15>I was the very first one really to take that
<v Speaker 15>roll on when I won the belt from Sahn Michaels
<v Speaker 15>and what it was, I was told I was going
<v Speaker 15>to be a baby face for extended period of time
<v Speaker 15>and after that he'll etcetera, etcetera. Well, you know a
<v Speaker 15>lot of people realize actually that was supposed to have
<v Speaker 15>been Sean and Vader in that match, But I had
<v Speaker 15>worked with Vader in a house show at the Gardens
<v Speaker 15>prior to that and got such a reaction from the people.
<v Speaker 15>When I walked out, Vince was standing there. I knew
<v Speaker 15>without a word that he changed his mind. Who was
<v Speaker 15>going to be in that spot. No, they came to
<v Speaker 15>me said, we're gonna put this. You know, we're gonna
<v Speaker 15>Vader go over tonight because we'll go next time we're here.
<v Speaker 15>He's gonna be beating Hunk and then at the pay
<v Speaker 15>per view in Indianapolis, you'll put Vader over to, you know,
<v Speaker 15>for him to meet Shine at SummerSlam. I said, fine,
<v Speaker 15>you know that's that's perfect, you know. And so when
<v Speaker 15>I walked out that night to the walkway there I
<v Speaker 15>looked in Vince's face, I knew it was changed. So
<v Speaker 15>the month or so later, when Indianapolis get ready for
<v Speaker 15>the pay per view and they pulled me over the side, hey,
<v Speaker 15>things have changed, and I too, I told them what
<v Speaker 15>things have changed to.
<v Speaker 5>I knew it. You know, you just get those kind
<v Speaker 5>of feelings.
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, and you actually did the tweener role as well
<v Speaker 18>in the middle of the bratt Hard Steve Austin stuff too.
<v Speaker 15>Right and uh and that was that was a little
<v Speaker 15>you know for me too. As a hill when it
<v Speaker 15>was just hills and just baby faces. I was always
<v Speaker 15>a twiner, especially up in the Northern market. I was
<v Speaker 15>always perceived or cheered, and the baby faces hated that,
<v Speaker 15>you know, having to work with a guy.
<v Speaker 5>You know.
<v Speaker 15>And I don't know if you know this yourself, but
<v Speaker 15>you know, if you're a baby face and you got
<v Speaker 15>ten thousand people cheering, you got one person booing you,
<v Speaker 15>it really grows mine, not mine. It doesn't bother some people.
<v Speaker 15>I've seen people like Bill Goldbert just literally go nuts.
<v Speaker 15>Customed person shut up, I say, hey, man, And then
<v Speaker 15>he's working with me and we'd get north and more
<v Speaker 15>people doo him. But no, I always I like that.
<v Speaker 15>You know, as a Hill, it's acceptable, you know, you
<v Speaker 15>accept the cheers in the boost. But that was That's
<v Speaker 15>always been my favorite rose to Hill.
<v Speaker 18>Did you find that with Shawn when you are working
<v Speaker 18>with Sean back then, that he would get real frazzled
<v Speaker 18>when the crowdits are going nuts.
<v Speaker 15>For you, not Sean, not Sean, notice Sean. Sean was up.
<v Speaker 15>I don't know if people know Sean as well or not.
<v Speaker 15>Sean is a real He's a giver. He gives out,
<v Speaker 15>you know, he gives to you. He makes me you know,
<v Speaker 15>like when we were Triple Threat matches me and him
<v Speaker 15>and Brett. You know, I'm not saying I said before
<v Speaker 15>working with Brett was like pulling teeth.
<v Speaker 18>He said that in the last shoot interview.
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, and Sean when he saw that me and Sean
<v Speaker 15>would look at each other. We just so I say, hey,
<v Speaker 15>we'll work around this, and Sean would go out of
<v Speaker 15>his way to really make me look super cool in
<v Speaker 15>the match. I do the same for him, and we
<v Speaker 15>do the same for Bed as well.
<v Speaker 14>So Sid as tweener, I mean, this is the role.
<v Speaker 14>This is the ultimate example of that.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I mean, I mean I also I don't
<v Speaker 5>agree with him being the first tweener at all. I
<v Speaker 5>think I think it was definitely mashed the year prior.
<v Speaker 14>But you know, I mean, my fucking Paul Orndorff was
<v Speaker 14>a tweener when he was shooting with the Hogan. I
<v Speaker 14>mean it was like, oh was he I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 14>There's always been tweeners on the roster. It's just a
<v Speaker 14>question of who do they turn their attention to. You know,
<v Speaker 14>all it takes for a heel to become a tweener
<v Speaker 14>is have him do nothing different but attack a heel
<v Speaker 14>instead of a babyface.
<v Speaker 5>Right right exactly? Well yeah, or or to not give
<v Speaker 5>a shit about either. One really is what it is.
<v Speaker 5>And in many ways that was like that was Austin too,
<v Speaker 5>you know, in around this period. You know, he was
<v Speaker 5>very much a tweener and people were getting behind him,
<v Speaker 5>but he wasn't a babyface for sure.
<v Speaker 14>And that's another way Sids in concentric circles with this
<v Speaker 14>whole rising moment is that he's kind of a tweener
<v Speaker 14>that's setting a bit of the table for the Steve
<v Speaker 14>Austin tweener in that he's he's kind of showing that
<v Speaker 14>the audience is out there that will cheer when somebody
<v Speaker 14>does something like hyper violent to a goodie two shoes
<v Speaker 14>babyface yep, and they'll go with them. And Steve, you know,
<v Speaker 14>when he comes out to wrestle Bret Hart on that
<v Speaker 14>same show, Survivors Series nineteen ninety six, he does have
<v Speaker 14>vocal crowd support, but it's not yet. That Garden telling
<v Speaker 14>Vince like, no, this is the babyface or this is
<v Speaker 14>the guy we care about hadn't quite reached that point,
<v Speaker 14>whereas it had with Sid earlier in the night, and
<v Speaker 14>I think indicated that there was, you know, a stronger
<v Speaker 14>It wasn't just contrarianism. It was like, no, this is
<v Speaker 14>where the bulk of your hardest core fans, your New
<v Speaker 14>York fans want the company to go in terms of
<v Speaker 14>like structuring who's featured and whose babies and who's heels.
<v Speaker 14>And that's a huge night for that reason more than
<v Speaker 14>anything else. When Sid wins the bet and gets that
<v Speaker 14>kind of a response for doing it, even though he,
<v Speaker 14>you know, brings Jose Lafario in storyline of course, to
<v Speaker 14>the brink of heart attack and hits him with a
<v Speaker 14>television camera and does dastardly things to get there. No
<v Speaker 14>one gives a fuck and who who's doing that? To
<v Speaker 14>massive superstardom within weeks Steve Austin yep, just absolutely losing
<v Speaker 14>his mind, swinging anything he can get his hands on
<v Speaker 14>at Brett Hart and getting cheered even stronger for it
<v Speaker 14>every time he does it. So it's it's really interesting
<v Speaker 14>to think about it that way. And then there side
<v Speaker 14>is straight up confirming like it was in Indianapolis, the
<v Speaker 14>city where Buried Alive took place, that he gets the
<v Speaker 14>word He said that when he went to the curtain
<v Speaker 14>there in the garden once and he realized the crowd
<v Speaker 14>was with him, that it was going to be him
<v Speaker 14>and not Invader, and there was going to be a
<v Speaker 14>switch of the plans there. Yeah, I don't think Sid
<v Speaker 14>remembers it all the way down to what city he
<v Speaker 14>was informed of the change in plans if there never
<v Speaker 14>was a plan in the first place.
<v Speaker 5>To build up Vader he does.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, so what does he do? What does Sid do?
<v Speaker 14>He beat Sean at Survivors Series. And we've talked about
<v Speaker 14>it before and it's only appropriate here in the Sid
<v Speaker 14>tribute we talk about it again. First the sights and
<v Speaker 14>sounds from the garden that night.
<v Speaker 8>And Sid was an opportunity here to finish it.
<v Speaker 16>S just marry it, finish it, it said, hits it,
<v Speaker 16>HiT's over.
<v Speaker 10>We got a new champion.
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe it.
<v Speaker 19>Let's sing tell out Sid.
<v Speaker 6>I can't believe it.
<v Speaker 20>Son, don't say there's a new time w champion.
<v Speaker 4>But time I donna take care last.
<v Speaker 21>Don Michael's mother, n it miss Bettorn, this trainer, it's
<v Speaker 21>fully hood maybe having some serious medical problems here.
<v Speaker 4>Shun is trying to help. Well, could he be maybe
<v Speaker 4>more of a hindrances.
<v Speaker 8>And as you said, I certainly hope that that is.
<v Speaker 22>Heart damage. Talking barely Kay walk Josey's heart because they damage.
<v Speaker 22>Jade is broken.
<v Speaker 16>And in the ring.
<v Speaker 23>Stands the new World Wrestling Federation Champion, the man who
<v Speaker 23>now will face Wret the hitman.
<v Speaker 13>Heart that ghost said rules the World Wrestling Federation.
<v Speaker 24>On November than seventeenth, nineteen ninety six, and Ladies and
<v Speaker 24>Gentlemen Survivors series has been nothing short of extraordinary.
<v Speaker 4>We invite you to join us.
<v Speaker 8>On December fifteen, and Christmas might be coming early for Brent.
<v Speaker 4>They hit Man Heart who goes now one on one
<v Speaker 4>with the rating.
<v Speaker 8>World Wrestling Federation Champion Pacholl said.
<v Speaker 4>Who would have ever thought this would have happened?
<v Speaker 2>Anything? Anything could happen.
<v Speaker 4>In the World Rustling Federation, as said Remos and his victory.
<v Speaker 4>Sean Michael said earlier that he would.
<v Speaker 23>Do anything to retain the title and said proved he
<v Speaker 23>would do anything to.
<v Speaker 8>Tell you the World Wrestling Federation Champion Psycho said.
<v Speaker 1>He the Lapstan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows
<v Speaker 1>the boys need their candy.
<v Speaker 25>It's the Lapsed Fan.
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<v Speaker 5>What a night. Yeah, and again if you would recollections
<v Speaker 5>of seeing that play out and hearing it again, Oh,
<v Speaker 5>I mean I was disappointed in the fans because, you know,
<v Speaker 5>here was a guy that I was like, He's supposed
<v Speaker 5>to be the hero, you know, and what are you doing?
<v Speaker 5>Why are you booing it?
<v Speaker 2>What did he do?
<v Speaker 5>Why are you so happy to understand that. Why are
<v Speaker 5>you so happy when he lost? Did you hear that?
<v Speaker 15>Right?
<v Speaker 17>Right?
<v Speaker 16>Oh?
<v Speaker 5>It's huge? And what do we talk about?
<v Speaker 15>Who?
<v Speaker 5>Who's making the noise? The men, the guys, the guys,
<v Speaker 5>the guys.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yep, screaming over that one teenager you can hear
<v Speaker 14>go no is the ref's about to slap three.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's that's the thing too. It's like you got
<v Speaker 5>there is such a you know, it's it's it's younger,
<v Speaker 5>younger kids, Like I mean, I wasn't younger, I was fifteen,
<v Speaker 5>but you know, it's like these these much angrier, brutal
<v Speaker 5>guys are like they're overpowering.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, they want to see goody two shoes squashed like
<v Speaker 14>a fucking grape. Yeah, it's not just they get indifferent
<v Speaker 14>to them and kind of jeer them a little bit,
<v Speaker 14>like Hogan. No, they want to see them get fucking
<v Speaker 14>murdered in that way exactly. And when the company gives
<v Speaker 14>it to them, they can't help but react in a
<v Speaker 14>guttural way. Even if the company gave it to him
<v Speaker 14>for reasons other than satisfying them, it's almost like they
<v Speaker 14>accidentally gave it to them in service of another agenda,
<v Speaker 14>which is to get the strap off Sewan heading into
<v Speaker 14>WrestleMania plans, or at least to get the strap off
<v Speaker 14>Seawan heading into the Royal Rumble and his native San
<v Speaker 14>Antonio at the Alamodome. Unbelievable. What a moment that was
<v Speaker 14>and what a show that was so consequential Servivras series
<v Speaker 14>ninety six not talked about.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, Rockage celebrated nearly enough as it as it
<v Speaker 5>should be, for what it for, what it what it
<v Speaker 5>really signified.
<v Speaker 14>How wild We come back around to it here on
<v Speaker 14>on the eve of Saurvirora series season once again here
<v Speaker 14>this year, and and the references made there to the
<v Speaker 14>December pay per view where Brett, by virtue of beating
<v Speaker 14>Steve Austin earlier in the show, qualified to face the champion.
<v Speaker 14>And you were within your rights going into Survivor Series
<v Speaker 14>ninety six to kind of expect it to be Brett
<v Speaker 14>and Shawn again.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I mean, I don't think I even realized
<v Speaker 5>that it was. I don't think I even realized what
<v Speaker 5>that Brett was the going to be the top contendent challenger.
<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't think I even realized that at
<v Speaker 5>the time.
<v Speaker 14>I don't think they spent a lot of time ahead
<v Speaker 14>of the show emphasizing that, but I think in the
<v Speaker 14>body of the pay per view itself they decided to
<v Speaker 14>really lean in.
<v Speaker 5>So it was you know, I mean, I was just
<v Speaker 5>I was I was appalled. I was appalled and just shocked.
<v Speaker 14>And isn't it wild how you went from appalled to
<v Speaker 14>loving that same dynamic when it lit the fire under
<v Speaker 14>Steve Austin. Yes, your transformation was our generation. You know,
<v Speaker 14>we talk about the Attitude era as if like it
<v Speaker 14>was a generation after the one that we celebrate so
<v Speaker 14>much that really led to the record business. And the
<v Speaker 14>fans of the late nineties were the one. They were
<v Speaker 14>all us.
<v Speaker 5>We were just older.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it's not different, same fans, same fans that remembered
<v Speaker 14>it as like a kid thing tanemount to a Saturday
<v Speaker 14>Morning cartoon, in the same category as Captain Planet almost yep.
<v Speaker 14>And now it's like we're in a different place. Culture
<v Speaker 14>is in a different place. We're looking for something a
<v Speaker 14>little edgier, and what do you know, wrestling is willing
<v Speaker 14>to give it to us. But it's the same people.
<v Speaker 14>It's the same group of fans. I mean, yes, there
<v Speaker 14>are new youngsters watching wrestling in the Attitude era that
<v Speaker 14>weren't alive or were you know, babies in ninety one,
<v Speaker 14>ninety two or ninety But man, it was people that
<v Speaker 14>were like, holy shit, this is what wrestling is now
<v Speaker 14>because they had something to compare it to. And when
<v Speaker 14>you're oh, exactly having that reaction to Sid beating Sean,
<v Speaker 14>that's coming from a place of having learned what wrestling
<v Speaker 14>is supposed to be in the late eighties and early nineties.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I guess I would say, you know, in a
<v Speaker 5>weird way, that is that might have been a much
<v Speaker 5>more significant moment in I fandom that I really give
<v Speaker 5>it credit for. Yeah, as we're talking about it, because
<v Speaker 5>after that, I definitely paid attention more to what the
<v Speaker 5>fans were saying, right and what people were reacting to.
<v Speaker 26>Right.
<v Speaker 14>The reaction wasn't a give and it wasn't like, oh, man,
<v Speaker 14>this happens, and of course people are cheering. I don't
<v Speaker 14>even need to note it because that's logical. That's a
<v Speaker 14>logical reaction. But when people start reacting illogically, you're right,
<v Speaker 14>you start to pay a lot more attention to how
<v Speaker 14>the people are receiving it because you realize that this
<v Speaker 14>audience isn't calibrated like you are, right, The truth is
<v Speaker 14>they're just ahead of you. They know where you're going
<v Speaker 14>to end up, right, you know, as as a maturing
<v Speaker 14>wrestling fan in that era. But it's a remarkable night
<v Speaker 14>Sid becoming WWF champion for the very first time there
<v Speaker 14>and you heard it at this Fiber series nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 14>six and here he is in a shooting interview on
<v Speaker 14>the whole dynamic of Sean Michael's getting boot is the
<v Speaker 14>babyface by virtue of that of that program in that match.
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, you see, there's a big difference, you know, when
<v Speaker 15>you get everything inded to you in which I never
<v Speaker 15>got to push. I would run into a situation I
<v Speaker 15>see the businesses is bring a guy in, you'll give
<v Speaker 15>them a chance.
<v Speaker 5>To get over.
<v Speaker 3>I would.
<v Speaker 15>I came in right away my very first match as
<v Speaker 15>man event. I know, you know that was my argument.
<v Speaker 15>But give me time to you know, let me, you know,
<v Speaker 15>go six months you know, as a just killing people
<v Speaker 15>or whatever. You know, people like Dusty and only did
<v Speaker 15>with me. And that's how I got over, you know,
<v Speaker 15>And it was like it didn't it takes more than
<v Speaker 15>a week. It takes six months to a year. And
<v Speaker 15>I don't care who you are. I mean, I'm lucky
<v Speaker 15>I could draw money a little bit right away. But
<v Speaker 15>if I would get really the chance, and in my opinion,
<v Speaker 15>if I was the baby face and we had really
<v Speaker 15>built data up, I think we would do more business.
<v Speaker 15>And the company's ever seen in a long time.
<v Speaker 18>Was was management surprised about?
<v Speaker 5>However?
<v Speaker 7>You were in the garden, Oh I see.
<v Speaker 26>See.
<v Speaker 5>Some of the agents cried, I love that.
<v Speaker 15>My gosh, you know, you know they were so upset
<v Speaker 15>for shot, I guess, but it was pretty funny.
<v Speaker 18>It was like he was generally snapped at that point too,
<v Speaker 18>because he was going around the house shows and going
<v Speaker 18>off when he was getting booed, because it seemed like
<v Speaker 18>at that point he was more and more. Was there
<v Speaker 18>any resentment from him personally towards you. He never showed
<v Speaker 18>me to my face, you know.
<v Speaker 15>And you know, me and Sean I had pretty good
<v Speaker 15>relationships as far as I looked back at him. He's
<v Speaker 15>always courteous to me. I was was courtious to him,
<v Speaker 15>respected each other, He helped each other out. He was
<v Speaker 15>too tired to do a meet and great I did
<v Speaker 15>it for him. If I was too tired. He did
<v Speaker 15>it for me things like that, So, I uh, I
<v Speaker 15>know there was some kind of weird calls behind my back,
<v Speaker 15>but you know that that's always going to happen. And
<v Speaker 15>if you can't get that, then you shouldn't be in
<v Speaker 15>the business.
<v Speaker 5>What's kind of weird there? What hit your ear? Well,
<v Speaker 5>like it's someone doing meet and greets for Sean. It's
<v Speaker 5>like if he's too tired, It's like, well, if people
<v Speaker 5>are expecting you Shawn Michael's meet and greet, that ain't
<v Speaker 5>necessarily exciting when Sid shows, No, I mean it's better
<v Speaker 5>than nothing. But I get your point, and the same
<v Speaker 5>thing with the other way around, like you know, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I don't know that's it's well, you know whatever.
<v Speaker 14>And you know what he means by too tired, right,
<v Speaker 14>what getting later drunk and high? Drunk and high, yes,
<v Speaker 14>of course, not getting to bed till five thirty in
<v Speaker 14>the morning. So because they're mature adults, Well, I think
<v Speaker 14>that's the takeaway. I think by the time we're done
<v Speaker 14>with this tribut, we're going to realize that the business
<v Speaker 14>is full of mature adults. I think that's going to
<v Speaker 14>I think it's gonn be the big surprise revelation of
<v Speaker 14>this whole thing. Right, yeah, I agree, But there he
<v Speaker 14>is talking about how you know, the six month thing
<v Speaker 14>and how captive a window. This is just of Sid
<v Speaker 14>getting the spotlight and giving us even a sense of
<v Speaker 14>like what could have been almost and you know, no
<v Speaker 14>blowback from Sean, like yeah, because sew knew the whole time,
<v Speaker 14>then he's going to get it back from you, right
<v Speaker 14>he's now of course he's not going to consider you
<v Speaker 14>a threat. You're just a nexus to get this big
<v Speaker 14>moment in the Almaldome. So yeah, of course you didn't
<v Speaker 14>catch the wrath because they never went with you. But
<v Speaker 14>if they decided to go with you past royal rumble,
<v Speaker 14>if they said Sean actually were going to put Sid over,
<v Speaker 14>Sid would have been a Sewn's biggest enemy.
<v Speaker 5>In the world. Oh absolutely, So.
<v Speaker 14>Again we have this captive period of time where it's
<v Speaker 14>where Sid is the man, he's the champion, and you
<v Speaker 14>can reasonably, you know, start to talk about him as
<v Speaker 14>like the most important person on the show. And in
<v Speaker 14>that vein the World Wrestling Federation produces an issue of
<v Speaker 14>what they used to call spotlight. Oh yeah, what can
<v Speaker 14>you tell the people about spotlight?
<v Speaker 5>Spotlight was a it was a I don't know what
<v Speaker 5>you'd call it, but it was not a a regular magazine.
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't a monthly magazine.
<v Speaker 16>Right.
<v Speaker 5>It came out maybe a couple of times. It might
<v Speaker 5>have been quarterly or maybe, I don't know, I'm not
<v Speaker 5>sure how often. It seems sporadic, but yeah, it was
<v Speaker 5>basically they would use it to, I don't know, highlight
<v Speaker 5>somebody that probably needed highlighting.
<v Speaker 14>Right, Yeah, it was basically you know they're not dead,
<v Speaker 14>of course, but you know when someone dies, like Time
<v Speaker 14>magazine will come out with an issue that's about their
<v Speaker 14>life in Times, yeah, that'll sell because people are in
<v Speaker 14>the mood to learn about that person and you've taken
<v Speaker 14>their legacy. And when someone gets a massive push or
<v Speaker 14>wins the title, they would put a spotlight out to,
<v Speaker 14>you know, lead fans to think about the the arc
<v Speaker 14>of this person.
<v Speaker 5>And they even did Woe with Hogan for that matter.
<v Speaker 5>You know, they did them with Hogan in ninety three,
<v Speaker 5>right when he came back, they had they had a
<v Speaker 5>Spotlight issue right around the time, maybe a little bit
<v Speaker 5>after he had his first uh, his his return w
<v Speaker 5>magazine issue. Did you pick that one up? Oh, fuck you,
<v Speaker 5>I did excellent, absolutely no fucking whim missing that one.
<v Speaker 14>And so just the fact that they would do one
<v Speaker 14>said something on you. Yeah, yeah, it's not really you know,
<v Speaker 14>small beans. They do it about We're talking Warrior, Hogan Brett, Demolition,
<v Speaker 14>Jake Deebers. They did one in an L O. D.
<v Speaker 14>And Andre, they did some one of the Steiners and Diesel.
<v Speaker 14>You know, like, if you weren't it's very unlikely, if
<v Speaker 14>you weren't in contention for a belt in WWF, that
<v Speaker 14>they would think about doing a spotlight about you at
<v Speaker 14>the very least. And so the one on the one
<v Speaker 14>on Sid, if I'm not mistaken, is the last one
<v Speaker 14>they ever did.
<v Speaker 5>No kidding, I didn't know that.
<v Speaker 14>And it's a famous one because it's famous because it
<v Speaker 14>has that picture of Sid holding a globe in his
<v Speaker 14>hand of the world. Yes, yes, And that's a picture
<v Speaker 14>that's always circulated when it comes to like yeah, it's
<v Speaker 14>just a really colorful image and it's very evocative around
<v Speaker 14>like what Sid was and the character they wanted to
<v Speaker 14>portray him as. It's kind of like, you know, master
<v Speaker 14>of the World has got the world in his hands,
<v Speaker 14>but he's also got to look on his face like
<v Speaker 14>he's like he's having a perverse enjoyment holding the world
<v Speaker 14>in his hand, right.
<v Speaker 5>As you should. Really, if you are the master and
<v Speaker 5>rule of the world, you should have a perverse enjoyment
<v Speaker 5>of it with a.
<v Speaker 14>Really you know, uh, strange enthusiastic and wild expression on
<v Speaker 14>his face, very colorful look on his face.
<v Speaker 5>Oh sweet. Like we like characters, you know, big fan
<v Speaker 5>of characters, and you know, the larger than life individuality.
<v Speaker 5>So the fact they have characterization of characters, but we'll
<v Speaker 5>get into that, because the fact that they did one
<v Speaker 5>said something, but what they said in the pages of
<v Speaker 5>it meant even more. And this is from the pen
<v Speaker 5>of Vince Russo himself when he was writing for the magazine,
<v Speaker 5>still splitting his time between writing for the magazine and
<v Speaker 5>running for television before you know, the full throttle takeover
<v Speaker 5>of creative And so what we're gonna do is we're
<v Speaker 5>gonna march through it because this is really this is
<v Speaker 5>a document that tells us, I think the most about
<v Speaker 5>how WWF was thinking of sid in his place in
<v Speaker 5>the pantheon when they strapped him up. And so here
<v Speaker 5>we go through the pages of Spotlight, and I'll guide
<v Speaker 5>you here a little bit boss in terms of not
<v Speaker 5>every last thing that we're going to read, right, but
<v Speaker 5>there's that image on the cover. They're advertising the upcoming
<v Speaker 5>Royal Rumble and Vince Russo Boss has a word for
<v Speaker 5>readers right off the top letter from the editor, Well
<v Speaker 5>you should read that one.
<v Speaker 14>In the history of the World Wrestling Federation, there has
<v Speaker 14>never been a champion quite like Psycho Sid, with one
<v Speaker 14>of the most impressive physiques in the sport today or
<v Speaker 14>ever for that matter. The man from West Memphis, Arkansas
<v Speaker 14>finally exploded his potential at the nineteen ninety six Survivor
<v Speaker 14>Series when he defeated Shawn Michaels en route to becoming
<v Speaker 14>the World Wrestling Federation Champion. Up until that point in
<v Speaker 14>his career, bro critics always knew that Sid would be great,
<v Speaker 14>but the question most frequently asked was when Sid first
<v Speaker 14>entered the World Wrestling Federation in nineteen ninety one as
<v Speaker 14>a young man who was relatively new to the wrestling business.
<v Speaker 14>Bro later on, relatively Yeah, I guess three years experience,
<v Speaker 14>four years experience, then that counts as relatively new. Really,
<v Speaker 14>later on he would admit that he may have been
<v Speaker 14>just too green. Both mentally and emotionally to be able
<v Speaker 14>to cope with the big time. Immediately following WrestleMania eight,
<v Speaker 14>Sid disappeared from the Federation. This is interesting because they
<v Speaker 14>didn't talk a lot about his first run when.
<v Speaker 5>He came back. No, not at all.
<v Speaker 14>So this magazine is, you know, trying to do something
<v Speaker 14>that they didn't do on television, which is remind you
<v Speaker 14>that this guy had a prior incarnation, right right, and
<v Speaker 14>try to thread those two runs together from the Federation,
<v Speaker 14>only to return some three years later in February ninety
<v Speaker 14>five as the bodyguard of Shawn Michaels. Once again. After
<v Speaker 14>only a short stay, Sid left the Federation in early
<v Speaker 14>nineteen ninety six. Early nineteen ninety six.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess maybe he could have been January
<v Speaker 5>ninety six he left. I don't know.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, he was off television, but yeah, I think I
<v Speaker 14>think that might be right. He may have done how
<v Speaker 14>shows until the beginning of ninety six. The third time, however,
<v Speaker 14>seemed to be a charm for the man now referred
<v Speaker 14>to as Psycho. After returning to the Federation in July,
<v Speaker 14>this time to team with the former enemy Shawn Michaels,
<v Speaker 14>a mature and season, Sid silenced all his critics by
<v Speaker 14>beating his ex boss at the Brawl Classic, thus becoming
<v Speaker 14>the champion they would now call Sid. As of press time,
<v Speaker 14>SID certainly does rule the world all caps, like he
<v Speaker 14>tweets today, all caps and how great this individual can be.
<v Speaker 14>He is yet to be determined, I can say that again,
<v Speaker 14>however predetermined. However, one thing remains certain. He is the
<v Speaker 14>master and the ruler of the world. Okay, So we
<v Speaker 14>start flipping through and they do a piece going back
<v Speaker 14>to Spring ninety one and the arrival of Sid, and
<v Speaker 14>we see him in the Zebra stripes at Summer Slam
<v Speaker 14>ninety one, and they're talking about Slaughter and Hogan. They
<v Speaker 14>talk about to Hogan when he's in WCW.
<v Speaker 5>They didn't do a lot of that now I remember
<v Speaker 5>in like ninety five ninety six they started really changing
<v Speaker 5>that and sharing talking talking about history and talking about
<v Speaker 5>people who were in WCW right and or at least
<v Speaker 5>weren't even working for them, right. So they take us
<v Speaker 5>from there and they go through the match Made in
<v Speaker 5>Hell at SummerSlam and the interference in the wedding and
<v Speaker 5>the feud with Jake, and then they go through of
<v Speaker 5>course the nineteen ninety two Royal Rumble and show picture
<v Speaker 5>of that with him facing off with the Hogan and
<v Speaker 5>auld they hear it. Let me see what they say here.
<v Speaker 5>They were things being a changer and the ciilmonated some
<v Speaker 5>of his most hated enemies, even liminated Hall Cogan, a
<v Speaker 5>man he considered a frema. Sid was aware of the
<v Speaker 5>Rumos' most basic tenants. There are no friends. That is
<v Speaker 5>an event in which every man fights for himself. I
<v Speaker 5>had the opportunities to get rid of Hogan, and that's
<v Speaker 5>what I did. I didn't care. I didn't care what
<v Speaker 5>any would hear, anybody else would say about it.
<v Speaker 14>You're calling me and that's a quote sort from the
<v Speaker 14>old magazine. That's all I'm talking now.
<v Speaker 5>And then he talks about Yeah, they don't okay, they
<v Speaker 5>don't really talk about I'm surprised. Usually usually around this time,
<v Speaker 5>if they were talking about Hogan, they'd take a little jab,
<v Speaker 5>like like he says he deserved what he got. Sid
<v Speaker 5>says of Hogan, Yeah kind of, no, I guess, I guess,
<v Speaker 5>but but it's still like they would they would say
<v Speaker 5>like that Hulk Hogan was a coward. By pulling Sid
<v Speaker 5>out from Ah, you know, like they would they would,
<v Speaker 5>they would, they would kind of they would always belittle
<v Speaker 5>Hogan a little bit.
<v Speaker 14>This's what you're looking for, and it was the beginning
<v Speaker 14>of the end of Hulk Hogan. The man has never
<v Speaker 14>been the same since Wreslomania eight kind of. But that's
<v Speaker 14>still not it Like, that's not hard to know.
<v Speaker 5>They would they would have, they would have made they
<v Speaker 5>would have brought to attention the fact that the fans
<v Speaker 5>cheered for Sid right and boot Hulk Hogan right in
<v Speaker 5>that that's what they would have That's what they would
<v Speaker 5>have done. But I mean, even but they do they
<v Speaker 5>kind of go in gear and they say, you know,
<v Speaker 5>downward spot on Hogan's career. Bloody, bloody blah.
<v Speaker 14>But and it describes the end of this run in
<v Speaker 14>this article as days after the event wrestleming he Ate,
<v Speaker 14>without warning or notice, Sid vanished from the World Wrestling Federation. Vanished, Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>and it says he went in he went into self
<v Speaker 14>imposed exile for the next three years until returning to
<v Speaker 14>the Federation early nineteen ninety five.
<v Speaker 5>Would he go on an island or something?
<v Speaker 14>Well during his hiatus ad reads many say that's when
<v Speaker 14>he transformed into a complete, albeit popular psycho, and then
<v Speaker 14>they go through a period of his life where he's
<v Speaker 14>the bodyguard of Seawann Michaels, and they recount all of that,
<v Speaker 14>and as we did last week, go through WrestleMania and
<v Speaker 14>show him in the vest and jeans backing up Sean
<v Speaker 14>Yep and that big promo and the big heel turn
<v Speaker 14>and all of that, and they flash forward from there
<v Speaker 14>to the interview with Keith Elliott Greenberg. And this is
<v Speaker 14>to get into Sid's head while gripping the Gold Eagle,
<v Speaker 14>the Winged Eagle WWF title belt. I'll be Keith, you
<v Speaker 14>b Sid. World Wrestling Federation Champion Shawn Michaels, reportedly at
<v Speaker 14>the peak of his career, had been dethroned by his
<v Speaker 14>former bodyguard Sid. Overnight. The perception of Sid changed drastically.
<v Speaker 14>No longer was the granite bodied brute, regarded as a
<v Speaker 14>hot headed ruffian constantly threatening to but never succeeding in
<v Speaker 14>capturing the gold. Now Psycho Sid was the undisputed king
<v Speaker 14>of the squared Circle, the holder of the most coveted
<v Speaker 14>title in the sport of kings, the man for Michaels
<v Speaker 14>and every other top contender in the Matt Wars to
<v Speaker 14>line up to challenge. As reporters clamored to question the
<v Speaker 14>new titleist, Sid took time out of his whirlwind schedule
<v Speaker 14>to grant one of his first interviews exclusively to this publication.
<v Speaker 5>Like you'd fucking do an interview for anybody else's publican.
<v Speaker 14>Right, like second or third right. A few days after
<v Speaker 14>winning the World Wresting Federation Championship, you disappeared. No one
<v Speaker 14>could find you. When we finally attracked you down, we
<v Speaker 14>discovered that you've been hunting with your old buddies from Arkansas.
<v Speaker 2>That's right.
<v Speaker 5>After all the pain and the sweat till to get
<v Speaker 5>back to the top, I wanted to remember who I
<v Speaker 5>am and where I come from. I've been hunting with
<v Speaker 5>these same friends since I was a little kid. When
<v Speaker 5>I'm with them, I'm not the World Wrestling Entertainment Champion
<v Speaker 5>or a guy whose picture appears out of magazine covers
<v Speaker 5>in places like Japan, in India and South Africa. I'm
<v Speaker 5>the same guy I've always known, and it's important for
<v Speaker 5>me to face the people who've known me all my life,
<v Speaker 5>through good times and bad, to bring me back to earth.
<v Speaker 14>It sounds like you were floating above the clouds until
<v Speaker 14>you got back to Arkansas.
<v Speaker 5>Let me put it this way, how many people experienced
<v Speaker 5>a thrill of winning the ww Championship. One in one
<v Speaker 5>hundred million, maybe fewer. Is something any kid who ever
<v Speaker 5>turned on a wrestling match on TV dreams about. But
<v Speaker 5>I was actually able to do it. It was a long,
<v Speaker 5>rough road with a lot of detours and a lot
<v Speaker 5>of agony. But when I got back to that locker
<v Speaker 5>room after running the title, I really felt like I
<v Speaker 5>was in heaven.
<v Speaker 14>It's funny that you'd feel that way since it was
<v Speaker 14>kind of a controversial victory.
<v Speaker 3>What was so controversially about it?
<v Speaker 14>Well, the way that you found Michael's weak spot and
<v Speaker 14>managed to achieve the victory.
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean.
<v Speaker 5>Managed to achieve the victory as if it was a fluke.
<v Speaker 5>You know, I trained for a long time for that moment.
<v Speaker 5>I devoted my life wrestling, and I earned that championship.
<v Speaker 5>You want to know how I beat Michaels.
<v Speaker 3>By driving that with the bomb, Bob, That's how.
<v Speaker 5>By being the better man.
<v Speaker 14>But you also attacked his manager, Jose Lafario. True, That's
<v Speaker 14>all you have to say.
<v Speaker 5>True. What else is there to say it was my fault.
<v Speaker 5>He decided to climb up on the ring apron in
<v Speaker 5>the middle match, But when I saw him on a
<v Speaker 5>ring apron, I made a choice to tour a negative
<v Speaker 5>into more positive instead of letting him distract me, I
<v Speaker 5>grabbed the camera out of the camera man's hand.
<v Speaker 3>And smashed Lathoria with it.
<v Speaker 5>Hey, it's not like I was hitting some poor, defenceless fan.
<v Speaker 5>Jose Lathario has one of the most knowledgeable minds in wrestling.
<v Speaker 5>He knew when he was climbing up that ring apron
<v Speaker 5>that he was putting himself in danger, but he did
<v Speaker 5>it anyway, and he paid the price.
<v Speaker 14>Then you hit Michael's with the camera as well before
<v Speaker 14>giving him a power bomb in scoring the pen.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm not ashamed of that. Look at Michaels. Are
<v Speaker 5>you telling me that Sean wouldn't have done the same
<v Speaker 5>thing to me if he thought it'd throw off my
<v Speaker 5>game plan? You know he would. Now, I don't hate
<v Speaker 5>Sean Michaels. I don't hat Jose Lathario, but you don't
<v Speaker 5>get to the top of the world as he hit
<v Speaker 5>a dam it by loving your coworker. There's your coworkers
<v Speaker 5>gonna step over your body to grab the big prize,
<v Speaker 5>so you get to the top, but out thinking the
<v Speaker 5>other guy, which I did when I shifted Michael's mind
<v Speaker 5>to the Thario instead of the match, then blasted him
<v Speaker 5>with everything you got.
<v Speaker 14>Apparently the fans at Madison Square Garden appreciated your strategy,
<v Speaker 14>as I recall, they were jumping all over you after
<v Speaker 14>you won the belt. They didn't seem to have a
<v Speaker 14>problem with your actions at all. Now, come on, weren't
<v Speaker 14>you a little surprised about that?
<v Speaker 5>A massive square garden from New Yorkers? You gotta be
<v Speaker 5>kidding me.
<v Speaker 3>You ever been in New York? It's getting on the
<v Speaker 3>subways a fight to the death.
<v Speaker 5>Well during rush hour. He's not wrong if you got
<v Speaker 5>to elbows some Moosella Thario got out of the way
<v Speaker 5>just to get a seat. It's nothing personal, just the
<v Speaker 5>way it is. That's a lot of the fans were
<v Speaker 5>cheering for me. They know that I'm not some kind
<v Speaker 5>of demon. I'm just a regular guy, kind of like
<v Speaker 5>them in an Arkansas way who saw an opportunity.
<v Speaker 26>And took it.
<v Speaker 14>Michaels doesn't see it that way. He says, you attacked
<v Speaker 14>an old man and that getting back at you is
<v Speaker 14>almost as important to him as getting back the title.
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't right now what show Michael sticks does it?
<v Speaker 5>He seems to forget that, Uh, he's not a champion anymore.
<v Speaker 3>I'm a champion.
<v Speaker 5>He's the one who has to come to me if
<v Speaker 5>he wants a shot of the gold, and I'm the
<v Speaker 5>one who says the conditions, not him.
<v Speaker 14>Do you ever worry that under regular wrestling conditions, with
<v Speaker 14>no cameras to grab and no managers, Michaels would beat you.
<v Speaker 5>If I worried about that, I'd be in the wrong business.
<v Speaker 5>It's nice to imagine what the world singenterteam will be
<v Speaker 5>like if everyone stayed on the map, exchanging fireman's carries,
<v Speaker 5>hammer locks, leg grapevines. But we don't live in that
<v Speaker 5>kind of world. When Sid wrestles, he uses the whole
<v Speaker 5>arena as a weapon, the ring, steps, the guardrail, the cameras,
<v Speaker 5>stannuncer's table, So Seawn Michaels. So it's the undertaker, so
<v Speaker 5>does Brett Hart. Now I've heard people say that the
<v Speaker 5>world of sing entertainment is a place without rules, but
<v Speaker 5>I disagree with that. Today the world was sing entertainment
<v Speaker 5>is a place operated under Sid's rules. That's why I
<v Speaker 5>want the belt, and that's well, I'll be champion as
<v Speaker 5>long as I want to be amazing. By the way,
<v Speaker 5>he looks like an absolute bitch. Where that fucking painters
<v Speaker 5>idiot baseball cap the painter's cap he used to wear
<v Speaker 5>for some reason though, Oh, he's such a fucking I
<v Speaker 5>don't know what the deal was with that thing, but
<v Speaker 5>he would wear it backwards like a little boy all
<v Speaker 5>the time, all the time. It's not softball season all
<v Speaker 5>the time, you know, fucking moron.
<v Speaker 14>They want to give us a wider sense of the man.
<v Speaker 14>And after the article is about you know, beating on
<v Speaker 14>Sean and winning its arrivs. Series, we go to page
<v Speaker 14>twenty four to twenty six of the file here and
<v Speaker 14>the article is entitled when He's Sane Psycho. Sid is
<v Speaker 14>a man of contradictions.
<v Speaker 5>Uh oh.
<v Speaker 14>In the ring, he is fearless and utterly ruthless. He
<v Speaker 14>never takes a backwards step, and he's always on the offensive,
<v Speaker 14>splattering opponents like Vader and gold Dust with alarming ease.
<v Speaker 14>During interviews, sid sinister look and vocal outbursts have been
<v Speaker 14>enough to dissuade most athletes from wrestling him. Yet beyond
<v Speaker 14>the glitter and the glitz of the World Wrestling Federation,
<v Speaker 14>Psycho Sit is a man of reserve, a man of patients,
<v Speaker 14>and a man who has a fond appreciation and respect
<v Speaker 14>for nature and game.
<v Speaker 21>A man.
<v Speaker 14>I've been waiting to find out what he measured in
<v Speaker 14>game management Fridays to say, ducks.
<v Speaker 2>Game.
<v Speaker 14>So Boss take it from here. Sid, I guess, is
<v Speaker 14>a much different person off the mat, is he not?
<v Speaker 5>Sid is a much different person off the mat. In fact,
<v Speaker 5>this magazine has learned that the Quote Monster from West
<v Speaker 5>Memphis is an avid hunter who uses the sport as
<v Speaker 5>therapy to help him Quote relax. The wild gives me
<v Speaker 5>a chance to reflect on my career and other choices
<v Speaker 5>I've made in my life.
<v Speaker 14>Also an avid hunter Stephanie's husband.
<v Speaker 5>On that note, Sid isn't any different from other professional
<v Speaker 5>athletes scores of NFL and NBA superstars. Superstars, by the way,
<v Speaker 5>not players or athletes. Superstars as well as professional baseball
<v Speaker 5>players enjoy hunting and f like said, they enjoy the
<v Speaker 5>challenge of the hunt and the peacefulness of being at
<v Speaker 5>one with the land and the animals that live upon it.
<v Speaker 5>Each year said, does what every deer hunter must do.
<v Speaker 5>He pays for and obtains permits to harvest deer pays
<v Speaker 5>for and obtains permits. You heard it here. First he
<v Speaker 5>obtains permits to harvest, not to hunt. Harvest, because are
<v Speaker 5>they growing deer to be harvested? Is that what's going on?
<v Speaker 14>I suppose, yeah, that he's seeing to it that deer's
<v Speaker 14>you know, procreate so that he can kill them. All right, Well,
<v Speaker 14>there we go, they're harvesting and procreating deer. He realizes
<v Speaker 14>that his payments for permits, licenses, and ammunition help maintain
<v Speaker 14>state designated hunting habitats.
<v Speaker 5>Oh good, well, I'm glad. He realizes that in the
<v Speaker 5>United States, all the money I pay for deer tags
<v Speaker 5>and hunting licenses is funneled back into the game management system.
<v Speaker 14>Also involved in the game management system Stephanie, who says.
<v Speaker 5>The calendar in the in the the Helmsley House. This
<v Speaker 5>secures hunters safe every areas in which to hunt, and
<v Speaker 5>also maintains ecosystems. You know, the balance of the herds
<v Speaker 5>in the woods.
<v Speaker 14>The jim herds in the woods, said the jim hers
<v Speaker 14>in the The first time he's tried to hunt a herd.
<v Speaker 5>O deer herds have skyrocket in the last decade. He says,
<v Speaker 5>there are millions of deer in the United States and
<v Speaker 5>their numbers are always increasing. I'm going to say about it.
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna say it doesn't seem like it actually, if
<v Speaker 5>it weren't for concerned hunters, like said, those numbers could
<v Speaker 5>pose a problem to people.
<v Speaker 14>Oh thank god, he's killing these animals, especial what we do.
<v Speaker 14>He wasn't fucking killing these animals all the time, I.
<v Speaker 5>Mean, we'd all be in deep trouble.
<v Speaker 14>Come on, dear, I really kind of thought like it
<v Speaker 14>was gonna say, you know, there are millions of deer
<v Speaker 14>in the United States and their days are numbered.
<v Speaker 5>That's what he should say.
<v Speaker 3>I'm hutting you down.
<v Speaker 14>Just the guy you want to see trapesing through the
<v Speaker 14>woods and fatigues. Jesus, Now I know where they got
<v Speaker 14>the very windom gimmick from.
<v Speaker 5>Imagine you see Sid It's like, you know, just also
<v Speaker 5>I picture mounting with you know, like he's wearing fatigue,
<v Speaker 5>Like he's wearing like those kinds of cargo pants. You know,
<v Speaker 5>he's were you know, uh a camo uh cargo pants
<v Speaker 5>and a camo vest, no shirt, all right, and a
<v Speaker 5>white baseball hat.
<v Speaker 14>Oh my god, all right, that's the whole Cogan movie.
<v Speaker 14>What movie is it where he's got the camo vest
<v Speaker 14>and like the fake hair? Is that a secret agent club?
<v Speaker 5>One of those? Oh yeah, it was one of those.
<v Speaker 5>You see a picture here in the magazine. No you no, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 5>no no no no, it wasn't that. It was the
<v Speaker 5>ultimate weapon, Ultimate weapon? Sure, ultimate weapon. So are they
<v Speaker 5>called Rick Wilson? They should have called them.
<v Speaker 3>I'm proud of you, dear. You can'todd from Sid.
<v Speaker 5>God, I thought you were reading the article again. I'm
<v Speaker 5>like trying to Did you say that? Did I lose
<v Speaker 5>my place? That would be amazing. So the if it
<v Speaker 5>weren't for concerted hunters like Sid, those numbers could pose
<v Speaker 5>a problem to people, especially farmers who depend on their
<v Speaker 5>crops for a livelihood. Too many deer in one area
<v Speaker 5>means too many hungry deer. Too many hungry deer means
<v Speaker 5>the animals will wander deeper into populated areas in order
<v Speaker 5>to eat and survive. Another reason Sid likes to likes
<v Speaker 5>deer hunting is because the sport unites families, and it
<v Speaker 5>also destroys exactly. It depends what you mean. During the
<v Speaker 5>rare occasions away from the ring in the deer season,
<v Speaker 5>Sid often takes his twelve year old son, Frank, I'm
<v Speaker 5>gonna teach you how to deliver Vienna's. Frank, We're gonna
<v Speaker 5>hunt deer venison. You got that. This is where it
<v Speaker 5>comes from. We got Vienna venison, sausages, hot dogs, canned
<v Speaker 5>Vienna medallions. These are these are the Vienna medallions. Right.
<v Speaker 5>Don't want you to aim. I want you to shoot
<v Speaker 5>that deer, Frank, I said, put your gun, put your
<v Speaker 5>gun on your shoulder. You aim, and you kill that deer.
<v Speaker 3>Fank, Dude, I said, kill the deer.
<v Speaker 5>It's gone. Now look what.
<v Speaker 3>Happened right away? Because you're stupid.
<v Speaker 5>Because you're stupid ass. Are you sure that's why you
<v Speaker 5>run away?
<v Speaker 15>Dad?
<v Speaker 3>Hey, right away? Because you're stupid.
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, Frank just a fucking twelve year old kid,
<v Speaker 5>just like trying to, you know, please his dad, Daddy.
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't talk like that. He ran away because you're stupid, Naddy.
<v Speaker 5>Why are you yelling at me, daddy?
<v Speaker 3>Because you're stupid, Frank.
<v Speaker 6>You let him get.
<v Speaker 5>Away, Daddy, and you're ruining everything. Now I'm gonna go
<v Speaker 5>up to Zuzu and see her room.
<v Speaker 2>What do you say?
<v Speaker 5>Now, I'm gonna go up and check on Zusa.
<v Speaker 3>And Susan's sick.
<v Speaker 11>I'm gonna fucking check your because you're a fucking sellure.
<v Speaker 5>Frank Christer was one of the kids. Frank, No, so
<v Speaker 5>it's so drafting in this house.
<v Speaker 3>It's so fucking class in this house.
<v Speaker 5>That's it as George Bailey. Too bad we didn't attribute
<v Speaker 5>this guy before we did that one.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I would have named George Bailey Heasley
<v Speaker 3>out a boy, Clarence.
<v Speaker 5>Clarence is like said, I'm managing the heels.
<v Speaker 3>Oh Jesus, allright.
<v Speaker 15>Uh.
<v Speaker 5>This is a great year old hunter picture to the
<v Speaker 5>right with his dad and younger brother, Gunnar. Gunner along Gunnar.
<v Speaker 5>That's a nice spelled gunner. It's Gunnar along with him.
<v Speaker 5>In fact, Frank is an accomplished marksman. Skip skip skip
<v Speaker 5>here two years ago, Frank would sit it a side
<v Speaker 5>bagged an eight point buck. Oh yeah, and I got
<v Speaker 5>my attention.
<v Speaker 17>Son.
<v Speaker 5>There's just pictures of fucking deer heads in the wall,
<v Speaker 5>which I just you know, I've never understood that the taxidermy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I just don't understand, Like, I don't want animals heads
<v Speaker 5>up there looking at me. I don't get it.
<v Speaker 14>So I know it's not even like an animal rights thing.
<v Speaker 14>It's like it's creepy as fuck.
<v Speaker 5>Right, I I listen, I get it. You know that's
<v Speaker 5>the way some people are. They want to hunt. Fine,
<v Speaker 5>it's really it's just it's that, I that what the
<v Speaker 5>fuck's looking at you?
<v Speaker 6>Right?
<v Speaker 5>Those eyes are I don't need that. I don't need
<v Speaker 5>that ship. It looks like a Christmas display in the lawn. Really,
<v Speaker 5>I know, it looks like animatronic reindeer. Creepy, creepy as fuck.
<v Speaker 5>Two years ago, Frank with the other eight point fick.
<v Speaker 5>It was the youngster's first registered deal deer kill, and
<v Speaker 5>it made both father and son extremely extremely proud. Frank
<v Speaker 5>Baggs first deer while he was in the sixth grade.
<v Speaker 5>Three years ago. It says he's twelve, right, I know
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna do that. That doesn't make any sense. He's twelve.
<v Speaker 5>He should be in the sixth grade. Awesome, right, that's
<v Speaker 5>you turn ten. Maybe he is fourth grade you turn
<v Speaker 5>eleven in the Uh, yeah, he should be in the
<v Speaker 5>sixth grade, maybe seventh grade, I suppose, But maybe he
<v Speaker 5>was on accelerated learning because he's just so brilliant. Maybe
<v Speaker 5>maybe maybe that's maybe that's why he can't fucking h
<v Speaker 5>he can't deliver Vienna's and he's so fucking smart.
<v Speaker 14>Don't you know that when kids are on track to
<v Speaker 14>Star and brother one year that they shoot him up
<v Speaker 14>four or five grades.
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure he shoot him up a
<v Speaker 5>whole different kind of ways. He shoot him rigs and
<v Speaker 5>fucking needles and shit, just rigs. What about bagwell? What wow?
<v Speaker 5>Will you getting it? Will you do him? Sid there's
<v Speaker 5>no bagwell, there's no time to.
<v Speaker 14>Bagwell, right, and that's ladies and gentlemen. While he got
<v Speaker 14>fired from the grocery store.
<v Speaker 7>Ah.
<v Speaker 5>Indeed, I have heard that he used twelve gage shotguns
<v Speaker 5>and bagged the bucket the Panther Creek game refuge in Mississippi.
<v Speaker 14>I want to short change the kid twenty gauge shotgun
<v Speaker 14>T ten, sorry to double the gauge double gate brother,
<v Speaker 14>if only double gate. Panther Creek is one of the
<v Speaker 14>most prestigious state owned hunting preserves in the United States.
<v Speaker 14>The refuse, what do I feel like we just talked
<v Speaker 14>about we talked about something on cinemat with turkey turkey hunting?
<v Speaker 5>Did we did?
<v Speaker 27>We?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? We did. There was some article because it had
<v Speaker 5>the guy the same name about It had very little
<v Speaker 5>to do with the actual movie, but the the guy
<v Speaker 5>who was in charge of the same name as somebody
<v Speaker 5>we were I was doing a profile on. But it
<v Speaker 5>turned out to not be the same guy. But the
<v Speaker 5>story was just so fucking funny that I had to
<v Speaker 5>read it. And it was involving Panther Creek. No, it
<v Speaker 5>wasn't Panther Creek, but it was about some kind of
<v Speaker 5>like organized turkey hunting. To bring that one back to Thanksgiving,
<v Speaker 5>yeah exactly. I'll have to find that that piece. I
<v Speaker 5>can here in Black Bear, as well as a variety
<v Speaker 5>of water fowls such as canvas back ducks. Teals, Wait,
<v Speaker 5>canvas back bumps? Brother, what canvas back ducks? Haven't heard
<v Speaker 5>of that? Canvas camas? What we mean do?
<v Speaker 1>It's the Laps Wrestling Podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows
<v Speaker 1>the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's
<v Speaker 1>the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio.
<v Speaker 5>And Japiso ask your question, boss, real quick, Yeah, pumpkin
<v Speaker 5>seeds yet soon this week? Checking this sweet checking. I
<v Speaker 5>didn't want to miss the opportunity. Get it. No, no, no,
<v Speaker 5>it's it's gonna happen. Listen, listen, I'll tell you what
<v Speaker 5>You'll know for sure because I'll be snacking the fuck
<v Speaker 5>on this. As we talked about turkey, you know, I
<v Speaker 5>had to had now we get because we got to
<v Speaker 5>carve the jack lane in his first and then pumpkin seeds.
<v Speaker 5>I made my cinnamon sugar ones. Those were oh lovely.
<v Speaker 5>You know we have I'm actually might try a batch
<v Speaker 5>of that because we have it. Man, so simple, we
<v Speaker 5>have so many. We actually have a ton of just
<v Speaker 5>by chance. My parents came down and brought small pumpkins
<v Speaker 5>as well. Despite the ones that we bought that I
<v Speaker 5>got for my family, we actually have a huge amount.
<v Speaker 5>So actually there's this is a good year to to
<v Speaker 5>mix it up a little bit elt butter. Well, let
<v Speaker 5>them drive elt butter in a bowl, ye, and put
<v Speaker 5>them in cinnamon sugar on top, mix them up, bake them.
<v Speaker 5>We'll give us shop business.
<v Speaker 14>I'll give it Thanksgiving sandwich come as well. I take
<v Speaker 14>it as Oh yes, I see turkey's wandering the neighborhood,
<v Speaker 14>and I'm saying, guys, your days are numbered.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, you're gonna get in my belly on the
<v Speaker 5>day after. I'm thanksgiving him the day after. More importantly,
<v Speaker 5>so that's where the danger happened.
<v Speaker 14>You can only read this much about hunting this close
<v Speaker 14>to game season, foul season without reminding folks that Dosa,
<v Speaker 14>those sweet smells and flavors right around the corner as well.
<v Speaker 14>Oh it's it's so necessary for Christmas this year. Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>it's the plan. There's the plan.
<v Speaker 5>I'm planning numbers, showing it up pretty hard. Please continue,
<v Speaker 5>all right. Canvas back ducks, teals, and Canadian geese, not
<v Speaker 5>to mention other game birds such as pheasant, bob, white, quail,
<v Speaker 5>and partridge. Said tells this magazine that deer hunting almost
<v Speaker 5>caused him serious injury, not by his or someone else's gun,
<v Speaker 5>but by a buck itself and buck, damn bucky, by
<v Speaker 5>a damn buck itself. I was hunting during the rut,
<v Speaker 5>the period when dominant bucks compete for their foe. They're
<v Speaker 5>doe the female of the species, Sid says, when a
<v Speaker 5>big deal charged with me. Now I'm an't afraid of
<v Speaker 5>any man in the ring. I'll take on vader or
<v Speaker 5>mankind any day of the week. But this was unreal.
<v Speaker 5>I froze for a second as the buck came at me.
<v Speaker 5>The sun was going down, so I couldn't really see
<v Speaker 5>him well coming through the brush. When he got about
<v Speaker 5>ten feet away from me, that's when I decided to
<v Speaker 5>harvest it. Oh, harvest is another word for kill. I see,
<v Speaker 5>I get well. I mean, I guess it's still fucking weird.
<v Speaker 5>It's weird to me. I don't know because to me, again,
<v Speaker 5>the idea of harvesting and you know, listen, I'm not
<v Speaker 5>a hunter, so I don't fucking know shit. So anyone
<v Speaker 5>who's a hunter can can definitely tell me that I'm
<v Speaker 5>an idiot for saying this. But to me, harvesting is
<v Speaker 5>you row something and then you harvest it. Right, They're
<v Speaker 5>not again, they're not growing deer.
<v Speaker 14>Harvest is when you turn something you brought into existence into.
<v Speaker 5>Food, right exactly.
<v Speaker 14>Let me ask you a question, growing, does this article
<v Speaker 14>qualified deer hunter?
<v Speaker 15>That?
<v Speaker 5>Okay, just checking, Although I forget I think we had
<v Speaker 5>this conversation before. I don't think deer hunter yet qualified.
<v Speaker 5>I think I think it's or was there something that's
<v Speaker 5>a great move. It's a great movie. But it's a
<v Speaker 5>great movie. Huh, it's a great movie.
<v Speaker 3>It is it is.
<v Speaker 5>It'd be great to be able to have that on
<v Speaker 5>the list.
<v Speaker 14>Uh So, I mean, can we call sids run the
<v Speaker 14>rut because he's also competing for dough.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, wrestlers are always competing for you.
<v Speaker 14>It's not a run terry, it's a rut broiler. He
<v Speaker 14>doesn't like that at all, exactly. Low this the fuck down?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that he's nervous.
<v Speaker 14>Now when they we're talking about you know, canvas back ducks,
<v Speaker 14>teals and Canadian geese, I'm thinking, yes, any of other
<v Speaker 14>any other of Cody's siblings in there besides this teal.
<v Speaker 14>I don't know why only she got the invite.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know what happens the uh when he got
<v Speaker 5>ten ft away, that's when I heard. Really, I didn't
<v Speaker 5>have a choice. It was either shoot or climb up
<v Speaker 5>a tree. Yeah, I know it's what he's doing. Yeah, God,
<v Speaker 5>he climbed up the tree. He's gonna he's gonna fucking
<v Speaker 5>break his leg in half. Sid leveled his gun with
<v Speaker 5>steady hands and calm breathing. He pulled the trigger. It
<v Speaker 5>was an excellent shot. Sid says. The animal crashed to
<v Speaker 5>the ground and a thud. When he retrieved the animal,
<v Speaker 5>he saw just what a prize he had. It was
<v Speaker 5>a ten point winner and huge. When I dressed him out,
<v Speaker 5>that's cleaning the animals, enterds and some bones. It weighed
<v Speaker 5>three hundred ninety pounds. That's more than our way, said,
<v Speaker 5>says he bagged this beauty at Little Twisted Game Reserve
<v Speaker 5>in northern Mississippi. The owner of the private land hunting retreat,
<v Speaker 5>Howard Brent, told Sid that the buck was one of
<v Speaker 5>the biggest ever harvested there in the last five years.
<v Speaker 14>God said, that's got to be one of the biggest
<v Speaker 14>bucks I've ever seen hunted.
<v Speaker 5>Oh God, now, hey see it. I just took to
<v Speaker 5>tell you, man, Wow. Now I've seen people harvesting bucks
<v Speaker 5>all you know, for for decades. That has got to
<v Speaker 5>be the biggest damn buck I've ever seen harvest.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, Howard, I'm counting this thing. I mean, I
<v Speaker 14>don't think we've got a big enough table. I mean,
<v Speaker 14>I've seen some bucks laid down on our table before,
<v Speaker 14>but this is on a whole other level.
<v Speaker 5>Man. I don't. I'll tell you said. You said, you
<v Speaker 5>can't bring that here. You can't. No, you're gotta bring
<v Speaker 5>that someplace else.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what.
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to tell you. I can't. I don't
<v Speaker 5>have space for it. What do you mean you have
<v Speaker 5>the space for it? I don't have. Look, I don't listen.
<v Speaker 5>I can tell you right now that that is going
<v Speaker 5>to be a stray buck. I don't. I don't grow
<v Speaker 5>bucks that big. Now, we we do, we do, we
<v Speaker 5>do medium size, not this fucking big ass ship. What
<v Speaker 5>do you want me to do with that? I want
<v Speaker 5>you to do what you gotta do to clean the
<v Speaker 5>sun of bits exactly. I said I don't have the
<v Speaker 5>space for it, and you know what said I don't
<v Speaker 5>want the space either. But this is horrifying. Oh my god.
<v Speaker 5>I said, you're you're killing You're killing deer on my land.
<v Speaker 5>That's the whole idea. How you told me that's what
<v Speaker 5>you have here. You said that that is what's going
<v Speaker 5>on here, that this is land specifically designed and registered
<v Speaker 5>for harvesting animal. Uh, well, well, take a look at
<v Speaker 5>this beauty. I mean, that's what I call a trophy.
<v Speaker 5>This one's a king in the Woods said, I mean,
<v Speaker 5>I must have taken a lot of patience to get him.
<v Speaker 5>Been watching him for seasons, said said, we don't have
<v Speaker 5>We don't kill animals here, we harvest them.
<v Speaker 10>Mhm.
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you a question. What does that mean
<v Speaker 5>when you put a bliss fucking meme? Said, we don't
<v Speaker 5>we don't murder. We don't murder animal life here. This
<v Speaker 5>is a place of nature, is a place of God. No, look,
<v Speaker 5>let me speaking of witch. Wait, let me ask you
<v Speaker 5>a question. Wait, when you shot this thing, did it
<v Speaker 5>do like three or four summersaults? I'd say, yes, it did,
<v Speaker 5>And my god, I'd say, we got a young buck
<v Speaker 5>right here, said just let me ask them here after
<v Speaker 5>you shot it, did you notice it kind of engage
<v Speaker 5>in a in a in a in a party of
<v Speaker 5>super kicks with a lace three about kicking people in
<v Speaker 5>the face? This was wow, said you're under a rest
<v Speaker 5>for killing a young buck. Matter, Nick, how long you been?
<v Speaker 5>How long have you been tracking him? Said I've been
<v Speaker 5>tracking him in my mind for five years?
<v Speaker 14>Smart old buck too, wasn't he who ever trick in
<v Speaker 14>the book to keep out of sight? From what I
<v Speaker 14>can tell, how did patients pay off in the end.
<v Speaker 16>See it.
<v Speaker 5>I don't have patience. I get it done, just like you.
<v Speaker 3>Got Howard Brent.
<v Speaker 5>This one's gonna make a great story. That didn't even
<v Speaker 5>better Mount.
<v Speaker 3>Harding the mount your head, hold my fucking wall.
<v Speaker 14>He's trying his best to sound happy for Sid, so
<v Speaker 14>he doesn't go down this road, but he knows he's
<v Speaker 14>going to. He knows he's start threatening him. There's gonna
<v Speaker 14>be something that dissatisfies Sid, and at that point all
<v Speaker 14>bets are.
<v Speaker 5>Off, said listen, I said, I didn't mean a fan,
<v Speaker 5>all right, I did not mean a fan. Let's can
<v Speaker 5>we let bygones be bygones? Please?
<v Speaker 3>Shut You don't determine bygones, you bitch.
<v Speaker 5>There's the quote, you don't determine bygones, you bitch.
<v Speaker 14>That's awesome. I cherished that one more than anything said
<v Speaker 14>has said this whole series. You don't determine bygones. That
<v Speaker 14>think of the utility that that phrase has across everything.
<v Speaker 14>You don't determined by like exactly like okay, I'll let
<v Speaker 14>bygones be bygones, but you don't decide what's meant by bygones?
<v Speaker 5>Power I did.
<v Speaker 3>It's right, you don't determine so.
<v Speaker 14>Long as I decide what bygones are, yes, I am
<v Speaker 14>very willing to let bygones be bygones.
<v Speaker 5>Oh Man, Little twists, it ads, Little twists it Ads
<v Speaker 5>is one of the premier locations for waterfowl hunting. Ducks
<v Speaker 5>and geese are migratory birds protected under the United States
<v Speaker 5>Federal law. Little Twist Game Reserve is located in the
<v Speaker 5>migratory flyways for these birds, and it isn't uncommon to
<v Speaker 5>see thousands fly overhead at any given time. When deer
<v Speaker 5>season ends, you can find Sid and his son and
<v Speaker 5>their duck blinds waiting for their choice game to fly
<v Speaker 5>into range. Just sit is just everywhere with an arsenal
<v Speaker 5>of weapons.
<v Speaker 14>Just make sure when they fly into range that you
<v Speaker 14>catch them so they don't break their ankle on the
<v Speaker 14>descent to the floor.
<v Speaker 5>Like every ethical hunter, Sid values the role of conservation
<v Speaker 5>at conservation officer and conservation of what exactly. Officers and
<v Speaker 5>biologists are these sportsmen's best friends. The rules and regulations
<v Speaker 5>of hunting aren't determined by conservation officers and biologists. They're
<v Speaker 5>the guys who conduct studies on the animals and figure
<v Speaker 5>out how certain populations of certain species are overpopulated. Is
<v Speaker 5>also great to be in the woods and I see
<v Speaker 5>all the animals I can't hunt, such as owls, eagles,
<v Speaker 5>and songbirds. That's being at one with nature. That's what
<v Speaker 5>hunting is really about. I love the idea that they
<v Speaker 5>have this. You know, you know, God forbid that there
<v Speaker 5>come a time where some some being higher on the
<v Speaker 5>food chaine of sides. You know what I want to
<v Speaker 5>tell you, Some of these humans are overpopulating in the earth.
<v Speaker 5>I think we're gonna kind of make some reservations where
<v Speaker 5>we can hunt them, kind of tone things down a
<v Speaker 5>little bit. How we feel about that? Out of hand?
<v Speaker 5>It really is all these humans getting out of hand.
<v Speaker 5>Got to fucking cut them down.
<v Speaker 14>I think the owls and eagles and songbirds have gotten
<v Speaker 14>the memo that they're not going to be hunted. Do
<v Speaker 14>you think they kind of just like flaunted.
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'm sure that they do. I'm sure that they're
<v Speaker 5>completely aware.
<v Speaker 14>Oh my god, Like how foolish he looks with that
<v Speaker 14>big bass he cut. He looks like such an idy teenager.
<v Speaker 14>That's what he wants to do, man, he's a country boy.
<v Speaker 14>He wants to go home, tend the farm and hunt
<v Speaker 14>and softball. It does not take a lot to get
<v Speaker 14>his mind to turn to all right, how do I
<v Speaker 14>find a way to do an Irish exit here and
<v Speaker 14>disappear without anyone even noticing I was leaving?
<v Speaker 6>Right?
<v Speaker 14>That's always the way, And I'd like for Sid, you know,
<v Speaker 14>David Letterman style here Top ten Psycho Sid's Hunter's tips
<v Speaker 14>for safety.
<v Speaker 5>They do them in order here or go backwards. I
<v Speaker 5>guess they're in no particular order, so I don't know.
<v Speaker 5>Always hunt with your parents or relatives who've been in
<v Speaker 5>the woods a lot. What if I want to hunt
<v Speaker 5>and I have no parents, relatives I've ever hunted before.
<v Speaker 5>I think what he's saying is, then you can't hunt.
<v Speaker 5>I guess. Number two. Always keep your gun on safety
<v Speaker 5>even when you're shooting at bucks. Three, Never run with
<v Speaker 5>a gun, even with a safety mechanism activated. Number four,
<v Speaker 5>Be sure what you're shooting at and what's beyond your target.
<v Speaker 5>Five When in doubt, don't shoot brother? Yo, Yo, Sid?
<v Speaker 5>What's up? Brother? WHOA? I just want to you know,
<v Speaker 5>Si his brother? What's going on?
<v Speaker 6>Dude?
<v Speaker 5>Big says dude. We graduate you on winning the strip. Brother.
<v Speaker 5>That's really awesome, Bro, I saw it. I was watching,
<v Speaker 5>you know, brother, I was watching the Survivor series.
<v Speaker 17>Dude.
<v Speaker 5>You guys you know you did. You did really fucking
<v Speaker 5>great in the gizzard and day we're giving you guys
<v Speaker 5>a run for your money over here.
<v Speaker 2>Brother.
<v Speaker 5>But I tell you what, when I saw them strap
<v Speaker 5>you up, brother, I thought, oh, man, we got some
<v Speaker 5>real strong counter winds coming in. Brother. Like, I was like,
<v Speaker 5>oh ship, you know we got You know, I've always said,
<v Speaker 5>you look, you can make a bunch of little mistakes too,
<v Speaker 5>but you can only make a few big ones, brother,
<v Speaker 5>And I think we made a big mistake by allowing
<v Speaker 5>them to put the strap on YouTube. I'm telling you what.
<v Speaker 16>Brother.
<v Speaker 14>So I'm at the grocery store, dude, and I see
<v Speaker 14>this this WWF magazine, the Spotlight gimmick on the on
<v Speaker 14>the newsstands. Brother, and I opened it up, and I'm fumbing, dude.
<v Speaker 14>You know, I just want to you know, I just
<v Speaker 14>I just you know, my monster to get in a little.
<v Speaker 14>I was like, wow, dude, this guy is very well spoken.
<v Speaker 14>You know, nice little stories there about Sid kind of
<v Speaker 14>getting some of that background.
<v Speaker 5>Dude. I'm wandering, dude, you know you kind of lossen
<v Speaker 5>this especially intrigued Browner, by those by those you know
<v Speaker 5>your your safety tips are hunting in big fan, And
<v Speaker 5>I just want to say, you know, number five dude
<v Speaker 5>really kind of caught my attention, and I was wondering
<v Speaker 5>if you could kind of elaborate on that. Dude he said,
<v Speaker 5>he said, when in doubt, don't shoot? What do you
<v Speaker 5>mean by that?
<v Speaker 6>Brother?
<v Speaker 14>I love how long it takes him to get to
<v Speaker 14>the question. The preamble is like it's too much. He
<v Speaker 14>thinks he can couches his paranoia.
<v Speaker 5>He thinks he can. Yeah, yeah, he thinks you won't notice,
<v Speaker 5>right exactly exactly. I mean, you don't shoot? Like where
<v Speaker 5>you're thinking about shooting?
<v Speaker 11>Like?
<v Speaker 5>Is who you like?
<v Speaker 2>Are you?
<v Speaker 5>Are you like in a shoot? Dude?
<v Speaker 15>Are you like?
<v Speaker 5>Well? Brother? You know this has gone from work to
<v Speaker 5>a shoot? Like, what's you know? Where are you at
<v Speaker 5>with that? Brother? What's your what's your you know? Dude, Like,
<v Speaker 5>what's your what's your kind of mentality on that?
<v Speaker 28>Dude?
<v Speaker 5>It's your angle? I mean, you're the big dog over
<v Speaker 5>there now, brother. You know we're battling company company. Listen, Dude,
<v Speaker 5>I want to tell you something. You know, I've been
<v Speaker 5>the big dog over there, brother, I've been a big
<v Speaker 5>dog on that big company up north. I kind of
<v Speaker 5>I get what you're talking about, dude, Like you got
<v Speaker 5>people kind of coming for you at all angles. Brother,
<v Speaker 5>I just want to I want to ask you you
<v Speaker 5>put that in there, dude? Are you saying that? Like,
<v Speaker 5>are you advising people like not to shoot on me?
<v Speaker 5>I mean I read number four, brother, and I was like,
<v Speaker 5>that could have RAMI vacation for Hull Hogan as well.
<v Speaker 5>You know what You're Yeah, dude, I was like, I'm
<v Speaker 5>reading the whole thing, and I'm like, you know, be
<v Speaker 5>sure what you're shooting at and what's beyond your target? Dude.
<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, well, wait, wait a minute. You know
<v Speaker 5>he is he's like got the championship brothers Now, he's
<v Speaker 5>he's gonna go after whole Coogan. Am I beyond the target?
<v Speaker 2>Brother?
<v Speaker 5>Am I? Beyond the target?
<v Speaker 2>Brother?
<v Speaker 17>Am I?
<v Speaker 5>Am? I? What's what's next? Dude? Like, I'm just trying
<v Speaker 5>to get listen. I'm not trying to I'm not trying
<v Speaker 5>to accuse you of anything, dude. I just want to
<v Speaker 5>get all our ducks in a row, all right, brother. So,
<v Speaker 5>So I just want to you know, like what I
<v Speaker 5>just got. I just want to I guess here, here's
<v Speaker 5>my question, Dude, are you coming for my tour? You
<v Speaker 5>don't study?
<v Speaker 14>Because last time our paths cross? Brother, All of a sudden,
<v Speaker 14>I'm looking I'm looking up from the floor at Almondy
<v Speaker 14>in New York, and and I gotta wonder if the
<v Speaker 14>rugs being pulled out from under me.
<v Speaker 5>Dude, not I read this, I'm saying myself. You know,
<v Speaker 5>is this where they're pulling the trigger on on hul
<v Speaker 5>Cogan too? Yeah? I'm just you know, I'm over here
<v Speaker 5>happy for you. Are everything's done? You've been talking to
<v Speaker 5>Bishoff dude, right like? Are you are you going to
<v Speaker 5>be Hollywood Hogan too?
<v Speaker 16>Like?
<v Speaker 5>Are you gonna be Hollywood sit or something?
<v Speaker 29>Brother?
<v Speaker 14>To talk to Eric before putting this top ten list together? Brother,
<v Speaker 14>I mean, it's just like a shot at hold Hoagan.
<v Speaker 5>Was just you know, be all you know, d you
<v Speaker 5>don't don't feel obtimated to, like, you know, tell me
<v Speaker 5>something that you don't feel comfort to telling me. But
<v Speaker 5>I'm just curious, dude, was it Eric's idea to put
<v Speaker 5>this top ten list in there in the Spotlight magazine? Dude?
<v Speaker 5>Was it Erics? Did Eric say we want to bring
<v Speaker 5>you over be Hull COVID right and do it? Eric,
<v Speaker 5>say that you're the third guy and you're already been
<v Speaker 5>the third guy. Brother, And does he want like a big,
<v Speaker 5>you know, double truck spread on how good you are
<v Speaker 5>at shooting? Brother as send a message? I mean, is
<v Speaker 5>he kind of get an idea of like how will you?
<v Speaker 15>Like?
<v Speaker 5>I just got to know, dude, what's your angle? Right?
<v Speaker 14>I'm reading this You're so happy for your brother. I'm
<v Speaker 14>reading all this great coverage, all these cool photos of
<v Speaker 14>all the things we were working together that's in there.
<v Speaker 14>That was great to see, brother, And then I get
<v Speaker 14>to this article about how good of a shooter you
<v Speaker 14>are and I'm like whoa.
<v Speaker 5>Like whoa? I'm like, dude, I don't know about to
<v Speaker 5>said dude, Like who do I put my trust in?
<v Speaker 14>Just earlier in the same magazine, Brother, you're talking about
<v Speaker 14>how I was never the same after we met at
<v Speaker 14>Russell Lani, your brother, and I get that this you
<v Speaker 14>know the wiz erk, right, it's a wiz erk, But
<v Speaker 14>I don't know. I get to this article and I
<v Speaker 14>got to wonder, like is this subliminal?
<v Speaker 5>Brother, Like, like are you I mean, I basically what
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to say is, are you like, is this
<v Speaker 5>like subliminal messaging? Dude? Are you warning me? Brother? Are
<v Speaker 5>you saying hey, you know hall because time to look out,
<v Speaker 5>dudecause I'm coming for your ass. I'm right now You're
<v Speaker 5>gonna roll me up right exactly? Answer the question, Go ahead,
<v Speaker 5>answer it. I'm also a little concert you haven't re
<v Speaker 5>applied to anything I said. He's kind of standing there
<v Speaker 5>with a blank stare where you're your your white baseball
<v Speaker 5>at Dude, I'm just starting to get an idea of
<v Speaker 5>where we're at, you know, in terms of I mean you.
<v Speaker 14>Understand right said, you can't blame me for for having
<v Speaker 14>to like, you know, cross this this dot this iron
<v Speaker 14>crosses t brother. I mean, if this article came out,
<v Speaker 14>I want to.
<v Speaker 5>Say you it's nothing personally gets you, dude on emphasize
<v Speaker 5>came out. I just got to know, brother, are you
<v Speaker 5>trying to take me down? Exactly? Brother? I mean, if
<v Speaker 5>w W magazine came out with an article about how
<v Speaker 5>I like to shoot and how I went in doubt,
<v Speaker 5>don't shoot, brother, I mean, you would be within your
<v Speaker 5>rights as the champion in New York to call me.
<v Speaker 5>I would expect you to feel the need to call
<v Speaker 5>me and say, hey, you know, you know Hawk, what's
<v Speaker 5>going on to you? You're shooting on me? Shooting I said, no, dude,
<v Speaker 5>I'm not shooting on you. Brother, I'm not a magazine piece.
<v Speaker 5>I have nothing to do with that.
<v Speaker 14>And that's what I would say to you. Brother, full
<v Speaker 14>of much them but love, dude. Yet I'm not getting
<v Speaker 14>that from you yet.
<v Speaker 16>Brother.
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm kind of feeling like you're you're hesitating game,
<v Speaker 5>like we're not really on the same page with this, brother,
<v Speaker 5>And I just want to know what your intention is, dude,
<v Speaker 5>Like how far do you how far are you going
<v Speaker 5>with this shooting thing? Like what's the end game?
<v Speaker 26>Brother?
<v Speaker 14>He doesn't take the hint and said his nut said
<v Speaker 14>a word. He just keeps filling the silence with more questions.
<v Speaker 16>Like.
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna look if it, If it's good, it's gonna
<v Speaker 5>keep you from from like coming at me. Dude, We'll
<v Speaker 5>give you the dose. Still be about white now, brother?
<v Speaker 5>All right?
<v Speaker 14>I mean I'm sitting here and I'm reading about how
<v Speaker 14>you had this three hundred and three pounds buck charging
<v Speaker 14>at you and that you shot on it. You shot
<v Speaker 14>on him, dude, am I not supposed to read? Are you?
<v Speaker 14>Am I a buck in your shot? Is this literal, brother,
<v Speaker 14>or is this allegory? Like I just I'm trying to
<v Speaker 14>figure out what the metaphor is here, dude, because I
<v Speaker 14>don't just think this article appeared drop out of the sky.
<v Speaker 14>Brother is a human interest piece. You don't bullshit a
<v Speaker 14>bullshit her brother, You don't work a worker.
<v Speaker 5>I just got no dude, what's the dis mhm?
<v Speaker 14>I mean you're silent to speaking volumes. Dude, I gotta
<v Speaker 14>tell you, brother, you're not making me feel any better
<v Speaker 14>about the gimmick.
<v Speaker 16>I what.
<v Speaker 5>Mh the fact that I said what you didn't respond?
<v Speaker 5>I'm and I can still see her on the line.
<v Speaker 5>We didn't get disconnected. I can hear. I can hear
<v Speaker 5>your breathing. Brother, I ever heard said, let me ask
<v Speaker 5>you this brother, your court in this call? What a
<v Speaker 5>sharp detour? What he's worried about? And then there's a click,
<v Speaker 5>h are you.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm?
<v Speaker 17>You sent my church a case of being sausages and
<v Speaker 17>I send him an autograph picture.
<v Speaker 5>I didn't get a picture.
<v Speaker 17>Brother said, listen, my church, it's a case of the
<v Speaker 17>and a sausage and I send him an autograph picture.
<v Speaker 5>What else is on the top ten list? Yeah? At
<v Speaker 5>number six, respect and clean the land on which you hunt.
<v Speaker 5>Number seven, always retrieve any game you shoot. Number eight.
<v Speaker 5>Respect others in the woods, such as hikers and others.
<v Speaker 5>It's for them to Number nine never harvests more than
<v Speaker 5>a legal limit. Number ten, learn how to cook game.
<v Speaker 5>It tastes great, and his lone fat and his family
<v Speaker 5>fun well, fucking psycho literally.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, that actually makes me more scared of him than
<v Speaker 14>anything they ever did on television.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 14>And finally we go to his peers. These are others
<v Speaker 14>around the federation, ask to weigh in on what makes
<v Speaker 14>Sid sid? First up, crush three words? Make Sid a
<v Speaker 14>great champion, bred a strong, impressive, and psychotic. But he
<v Speaker 14>will only have the title until I get to him. Okay,
<v Speaker 14>Brian Adams, Okay, okay, first champion in w FI history
<v Speaker 14>to have a nose ring running into his ear, and
<v Speaker 14>then we will see just how strong his heart is.
<v Speaker 14>How about the goon? What does the goon have to say?
<v Speaker 5>Psycho?
<v Speaker 14>Sid will go a heck of a long way. And
<v Speaker 14>there weren't Wrestling Federation farther than that, sissy boy. We
<v Speaker 14>had as a champion before him. But hey, I wouldn't
<v Speaker 14>mind whacking that paranoid brain of his back in place
<v Speaker 14>with my hockey stick if given the chance. Savio, Sid
<v Speaker 14>is a great chump because the men try like a
<v Speaker 14>machine every day. Im Eagle, He's had the hunger inside
<v Speaker 14>of him for a long time and it's going to
<v Speaker 14>be hard to get that belt away from him. Shabbia Bubble,
<v Speaker 14>jjse James. I don't think Sid is going to go
<v Speaker 14>very far as a champion. It was a fluke that
<v Speaker 14>he beat someone with the caliber Shawn Michaels in the
<v Speaker 14>first place. Billy Gunn. He's got the.
<v Speaker 5>Size and the skill, but does he truly have the
<v Speaker 5>talent that I have without a doubt? No why.
<v Speaker 14>I don't care what these other idiots think, But once
<v Speaker 14>Sid stops running and gives me a match, he is
<v Speaker 14>as good as roped cattle in my book. Jake Roberts Boss.
<v Speaker 5>I was surprised Sid won the belt, not down his skills,
<v Speaker 5>but I was amazed he could actually beat Sean. As
<v Speaker 5>far as whether he will be a great champion, it
<v Speaker 5>just depends on who you match up with. Who you
<v Speaker 5>match him up with. A champion is only as good
<v Speaker 5>as the many faces.
<v Speaker 14>If Cassidy, only any living man can beat said in
<v Speaker 14>the long run, except me, Without a doubt, it won't
<v Speaker 14>be long before I boogy all over his thick skull
<v Speaker 14>and shine at that nice piece of gold to mount
<v Speaker 14>on the dashboard of the rockermobile. Don't digressed, No, really,
<v Speaker 14>you could care less if Sid is a great champion
<v Speaker 14>or not. If I got a shot against me Da,
<v Speaker 14>I'm sure won't be holding on that belt very low
<v Speaker 14>on Hurst Helmsley as far as I'm concerned. As far
<v Speaker 14>as I'm concerned, Sid go lucky.
<v Speaker 5>I can't even do his fucking his his idiotic voice.
<v Speaker 5>He's like in ninety six.
<v Speaker 14>We would like did a Hampshire accent, still kind of
<v Speaker 14>creeping in just.
<v Speaker 5>A little bit, and his voice is like so like
<v Speaker 5>it's just very weird. It's very weird. It is. It
<v Speaker 5>doesn't have the base in it yet. Yeah. At the
<v Speaker 5>Survivor series against Sean Michaels, I don't see him being
<v Speaker 5>a champion very long due to his mental instability. The
<v Speaker 5>man should have remained locked up in that sell of
<v Speaker 5>his far away from civil human beings like myself, Mark Merrow,
<v Speaker 5>you know the very first time I saw said, I
<v Speaker 5>said to myself, this guy is going to be a
<v Speaker 5>champion somewhere down the road. I guess I'm not too
<v Speaker 5>surprised that he beats Sean. But Sid's worst enemy in
<v Speaker 5>the long run will be himself. Don't get me wrong, though,
<v Speaker 5>He's the man to beat now jb Al Sid is
<v Speaker 5>one of the greatest athletic talents our sport has ever seen.
<v Speaker 5>In the past decade, Sean was great as a champion.
<v Speaker 5>When you look at Sid, you see a man who
<v Speaker 5>is almost seven feet tall and more than three hundred pounds.
<v Speaker 14>Yes, you do, that's true. I've heard that that is
<v Speaker 14>a major force to reckon with. Boy, we heard from mankind,
<v Speaker 14>he says. Psycho said, can go straight to some place
<v Speaker 14>he belongs. Okay, you see, Uncle Paul has alerted me
<v Speaker 14>to look into Sid's eyes, and do.
<v Speaker 5>You know what I see? Fear? That shows me that
<v Speaker 5>he's not that crazy. After all, He's got the most
<v Speaker 5>common sense to fear mankind as well. He should.
<v Speaker 14>Flash Funk says that I was smoking big fucking hash
<v Speaker 14>and that Sid will go a long way as World
<v Speaker 14>Wrestling Federation champion because he is a big man with
<v Speaker 14>big skills, just like a lot of people say, the
<v Speaker 14>man is psycho and that's a tough thing to deal
<v Speaker 14>with in the ring. You never know what that boy
<v Speaker 14>is going to do to hold on to that belt.
<v Speaker 14>Garry Lawler says, I'm sure all the inmates back at
<v Speaker 14>the Looney Band we're proud of that stupid head case.
<v Speaker 14>He's got the physical skills, but he obviously needs a
<v Speaker 14>check up from the neck up.
<v Speaker 5>I'm at Johnson, that's awful.
<v Speaker 14>I'm at Johnson thinks Sid winning the title was something
<v Speaker 14>that was long overdue and that he's gonna go a
<v Speaker 14>long way because I really can't see anyone stepping up
<v Speaker 14>to the plate to beat him except me when I
<v Speaker 14>get the chance. And we hear from Bart Gunn okay,
<v Speaker 14>we've been waiting for. Sid's got quite a powerful man
<v Speaker 14>in my book, partner. He's big, tall, and athletic, a
<v Speaker 14>complete package. I don't see anyone beating him and win
<v Speaker 14>the Federation and win the Federation title. I just see
<v Speaker 14>him getting confidence and going stronger as time goes on.
<v Speaker 14>Sonny thinks Sid is going to be a perfect champion
<v Speaker 14>and the word Wrestling Federation.
<v Speaker 5>Honey.
<v Speaker 14>Not only does he have the size to be a
<v Speaker 14>great champion. But he's insane, she would know. After all,
<v Speaker 14>we are in a land of giants, she says, And
<v Speaker 14>he's got that attitude you need to win at all costs.
<v Speaker 14>And hey, you never know what could happen in the
<v Speaker 14>future between him and me, Babe. Maybe Sunny could be
<v Speaker 14>ringside for his matches, always recruiting someone with a gold
<v Speaker 14>I know, right heart, I never saw an eye with
<v Speaker 14>Sewn Michaels, but I was disappointed all to see his
<v Speaker 14>reign end like that against Psycho Sid. It's a sad
<v Speaker 14>state of affairs. A world champion whos worked as hard
<v Speaker 14>as Sean has can be whacked over the head with
<v Speaker 14>a camera and power bombed into the mat to lose
<v Speaker 14>his title. If I were Sid, I would have never
<v Speaker 14>kept the title. I would have been ashamed to have
<v Speaker 14>wont it the way he did. Of course, you would
<v Speaker 14>have mean while he goes on to win titles like that,
<v Speaker 14>that's SummerSlam in ninety seven. Rocky by via Sid is
<v Speaker 14>the champion. It's as simple as that. Thanks Rocky, with
<v Speaker 14>the World Wrestling Federation title around his ways, it tells
<v Speaker 14>me that he's going to take someone with a lot
<v Speaker 14>of experience to take a big body like his down
<v Speaker 14>for the three count. Hopefully I get that chance somewhere
<v Speaker 14>down the road.
<v Speaker 5>I'll not with him. So there you go.
<v Speaker 14>In house propaganda as it regards Sid the Spotlight pages
<v Speaker 14>as World Wrestling Federation Champion, it's the cid Era, boss,
<v Speaker 14>it is, and we can't we can't talk around it.
<v Speaker 14>It is the cid Era that magazine giving us a
<v Speaker 14>look at all kinds of components of the man. After
<v Speaker 14>Survivor Series on television, Vince doing commentary calls Sid unquestionably
<v Speaker 14>the most intense man to ever wear the title, and
<v Speaker 14>Vince and pettent Gil really that's what he says.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, really.
<v Speaker 14>On this clip, Vince and Petton Gill are going on
<v Speaker 14>and on about how Shawn Michaels put compassion for his
<v Speaker 14>true friend beyond his title ambitions by caring for Jose
<v Speaker 14>Lothario and that critical moment during the Survivor Series match
<v Speaker 14>when Lothario had been hit by Sid and Sean took
<v Speaker 14>his eye off the ball to make sure Lothario was okay.
<v Speaker 14>And here is Sid speaking for the first time is
<v Speaker 14>WWF Champion on WWF television, giving his take on how
<v Speaker 14>to interpret all of that.
<v Speaker 4>It's about lad and Tillman.
<v Speaker 30>Why you're playing in the world US played veneration Champion.
<v Speaker 21>What if the manage last night, albeit controversial, you have
<v Speaker 21>thousands upon thousands of fans and medicines Square Garden that
<v Speaker 21>were cheering you on a lot of folks that it
<v Speaker 21>can never happen that you were too unstable, but that
<v Speaker 21>was not the case.
<v Speaker 4>You are of the Man.
<v Speaker 2>It is your time.
<v Speaker 4>But do you have any remorse.
<v Speaker 21>Over your accents last night as it relates to Sean
<v Speaker 21>Michaels or the sixty two year old Josela Thario.
<v Speaker 3>I got to say no.
<v Speaker 11>The reason why that's because JOSEI I made I have
<v Speaker 11>played respect for but you put your ass.
<v Speaker 30>On the apron and then you even came for the game.
<v Speaker 6>And then when you.
<v Speaker 11>Play the game with the Man, they only the three
<v Speaker 11>can't count with that?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what of the Michaels.
<v Speaker 13>What about a rematch with a heartbreak kid?
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, heartbreak kin. You want a rematch, you got it.
<v Speaker 11>I'll beat you once and then that time I'll beat
<v Speaker 11>you again because I am.
<v Speaker 20>Because I am the man, will I am the master.
<v Speaker 3>And the ruler of the world.
<v Speaker 21>Seventy superstars are lining up to challenge you. Vader song Co,
<v Speaker 21>Steve Austin, the Undertaker, and on December fifteenth, the legendary
<v Speaker 21>Britt the Hitman Heart.
<v Speaker 30>We'll go hold on round with here, Wwrcyle.
<v Speaker 4>Are you going to be a fighting champion?
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something.
<v Speaker 11>I was dever o'clock to wrestle again. Beat me, Boll
<v Speaker 11>called me back. Stephen Bieball made me and Jef ben
<v Speaker 11>be for the baseball. I will be my fighting jafman.
<v Speaker 5>Who have hurt out.
<v Speaker 21>Brett Hart specifically, he's looking to Rigga the ww.
<v Speaker 30>A Poddle for the fourth time.
<v Speaker 16>Brett, my friend, you're trying to make comportunity. You're trying
<v Speaker 16>to make retiputation to going.
<v Speaker 3>Through this store.
<v Speaker 11>Will you wrestling come back in the Wrestling World Wrestling
<v Speaker 11>Federation will end like that on December fifteenth, because you
<v Speaker 11>have to face me, Britain Man, hit Man, Brickman.
<v Speaker 5>You have to face me.
<v Speaker 4>The Master.
<v Speaker 16>The game is simple, my friend. Two minutes there, one
<v Speaker 16>man survives the Decemblar system. When the snow clears, I
<v Speaker 16>will be standing firm the Master, and I am a ruler.
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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, hardly a home run there, No, not at all.
<v Speaker 5>That was a awful Remember what.
<v Speaker 14>Jim Cornette said, It wrings in our head right why
<v Speaker 14>he had to be paired with Million Dollar Man because
<v Speaker 14>right beyond delivering an explosive one minute of xatives, so
<v Speaker 14>to speak, Sid really can't remember everything he's supposed to
<v Speaker 14>hit on the promos, the data, Michelle, the opponent, he
<v Speaker 14>says master and Ruler of the world twice. It's not
<v Speaker 14>the kind of promo you hope to hear from a
<v Speaker 14>guy who just won the world title for the first time, right,
<v Speaker 14>not at all. We're on this track and they're setting
<v Speaker 14>up the Royal Rumble, which of course was in January
<v Speaker 14>of nineteen ninety seven at the Alamo Dome in San Antonio, Texas.
<v Speaker 14>Very ambitious venue for the WWF to run for a rumble,
<v Speaker 14>especially in this time period where they were struggling, especially VISAVWCW,
<v Speaker 14>but the whole attraction to Sean Michaels. The San Antonio
<v Speaker 14>boy is going to get his rematch against Sid if
<v Speaker 14>Sid emerges from the title match against Brett Hart at
<v Speaker 14>the its time in your House as champion. They had
<v Speaker 14>kind of a tough time kind of basically telling San
<v Speaker 14>Antonio that they were going to get Sean getting revenge
<v Speaker 14>on Sid without right right for running the result of
<v Speaker 14>the Brett match. So they're threading that needle carefully through
<v Speaker 14>the winter of nineteen ninety six. But that's already in place.
<v Speaker 14>The venue is booked and they got to start moving tickets.
<v Speaker 14>They've got to start convincing people that this is going
<v Speaker 14>to be a big homecoming and a big thing to
<v Speaker 14>be there for to see Shawn Michaels achieve. So they
<v Speaker 14>set up a big old press conference in San Antonio
<v Speaker 14>and you know, the Alamo theme is there. They introduce
<v Speaker 14>a lot of the Triple A wrestlers. Remember in that
<v Speaker 14>rumble Boss, they brought in a lot of lootra doors.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 5>I remember, not a fan, but I remember.
<v Speaker 14>Forged a promotional alliance hopefully to get a little bit
<v Speaker 14>of the you know, the Mexican fans to cross over
<v Speaker 14>and come to the show and help fill the building up,
<v Speaker 14>get some some buzz going on on Mexican wrestling television
<v Speaker 14>as well as their own television network for the show,
<v Speaker 14>and that all starts to blossom. And of course the
<v Speaker 14>dais is there for Sewn and Sid to carry on
<v Speaker 14>and to get people fired up for the show. Problem
<v Speaker 14>is Brett's there as well, of course, because he's got
<v Speaker 14>to keep open the possibility that he's going to go
<v Speaker 14>into the the Royal Rumble show is Champion. But missing
<v Speaker 14>from the day, missing from the press conference for the
<v Speaker 14>nineteen ninety seven Royal.
<v Speaker 5>Rumble was Sid. Oh thank god.
<v Speaker 14>They play this package on their television show about how
<v Speaker 14>huge this press conference was and how impactful it is
<v Speaker 14>and how Sean's going to get a shot at the
<v Speaker 14>championship against whoever may be the champion, And the champion
<v Speaker 14>isn't there, and you might ask yourself, what kind of
<v Speaker 14>game is he playing? We've seen this from Sid, we
<v Speaker 14>studied his career thus far. Yes, or, according to Bruce Pritchard,
<v Speaker 14>who was in the front office at the time, the
<v Speaker 14>reason for Sid's absence much more prosaic.
<v Speaker 25>Well, he overslept.
<v Speaker 4>And that was that was it.
<v Speaker 25>It was like what's the big deal. It's a press conference.
<v Speaker 31>Well, we had done TV in the next day, myself, Vince, Sean,
<v Speaker 31>I think the marketing people were already there. But we
<v Speaker 31>all get on the plane in Hartford and looking around
<v Speaker 31>and I'm saying, where the hell Sid?
<v Speaker 25>There's no Sid. We're trying to find out, were you
<v Speaker 25>s SID? Last night?
<v Speaker 31>It's like no, And a couple of the boys were
<v Speaker 31>in the airport and I'm asking, I'm going down the
<v Speaker 31>aisle asking anybody anybody's seen Sid. Didn't see him? Didn't
<v Speaker 31>see him? Very uncharacteristic for Sid. Well, we get on
<v Speaker 31>the plane. We're calling all the hotels in the area.
<v Speaker 25>No Sid.
<v Speaker 31>We all three get on the plane, myself, Vince, and Sean,
<v Speaker 31>and we go down for this huge press conference. Man,
<v Speaker 31>we had this square in downtown San Antonio, this beautiful
<v Speaker 31>Spanish square, all rented out to make the announcement of
<v Speaker 31>Shawn Michaels, you know, coming home and all this bullshit.
<v Speaker 25>He's gonna face Psycho Sid and no world champion.
<v Speaker 31>And finally Vince gets a hold of him around noon
<v Speaker 31>one o'clock and he just was like, I guess I overslept.
<v Speaker 25>I guess so Vince was pretty fucking pissed, to say
<v Speaker 25>the very least.
<v Speaker 31>And we we had Antonio Pena from Triple A and
<v Speaker 31>a lot of the Triple A guys there.
<v Speaker 25>We made it work.
<v Speaker 31>But if you'd imagine today the champion no showing a
<v Speaker 31>major press conference for a.
<v Speaker 25>Major pay per view, it just wouldn't happen.
<v Speaker 31>And that was when Vince was kind of like, well,
<v Speaker 31>only a little while longer than he's going to be
<v Speaker 31>in that position, and.
<v Speaker 25>Bit the bullet and we moved on.
<v Speaker 31>But that was a major fuck up, and that was
<v Speaker 31>one that kind of stuck in Vince's craws for a
<v Speaker 31>while because Seawan was had been out. Sean stayed up
<v Speaker 31>all night long with Austin and they had been drinking
<v Speaker 31>all night, and Sean was showed up, had been drinking
<v Speaker 31>all night, pretty fucked up, got on the plane and
<v Speaker 31>he made it. But yet, you know, Sid, the guy
<v Speaker 31>that doesn't go out and party, the guy that is,
<v Speaker 31>you know, mister reliable, no shows and can't be found
<v Speaker 31>and just thinks it's okay to say I overslept.
<v Speaker 25>It was just a press conference. So that was again
<v Speaker 25>one of those beginning of the ends in a lot
<v Speaker 25>of respects.
<v Speaker 5>I can't imagine why Sid never got his Just do boss, Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I know, right, unbelievable. Why do not get that six
<v Speaker 5>month run? Well, well, Pallyannoi, you did oversleep the.
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't matter.
<v Speaker 5>It kind of doesn't matter. I mean, you know, we
<v Speaker 5>have we have the shot exactly exactly the shat you
<v Speaker 5>think that works on everybody and on everything. He thinks
<v Speaker 5>it works. Of course Coruly does.
<v Speaker 14>So they're trying to get tickets sold for this rumble
<v Speaker 14>and they don't have a champ there. You know, Bruce,
<v Speaker 14>I think is kind of putting the card before the
<v Speaker 14>horse a bit one, suggesting that they were announcing Sid
<v Speaker 14>and Sean because they still have the the It's time
<v Speaker 14>thing to get through with. But in the NAPTI Convention,
<v Speaker 14>the National Association of Television Producers, where you know, you know,
<v Speaker 14>Vince would always set up a booth and Breck would
<v Speaker 14>set up a booth, and they would have this big
<v Speaker 14>show for television to sell their television ad time, mostly
<v Speaker 14>in syndicated side. Sid apparently was there representing the WWBF.
<v Speaker 14>This took place, according to the records I could find,
<v Speaker 14>on January fourteenth of the fifteenth, nineteen ninety seven in
<v Speaker 14>New Orleans, Louisiana. Sid calls out the NAPTI convention in
<v Speaker 14>New Orleans when I'm talking about this and shoot interviews,
<v Speaker 14>And it was during this period of time, which I
<v Speaker 14>believe is subsequent to the aforementioned San Antonio press conference,
<v Speaker 14>that he kind of talked it through as far as
<v Speaker 14>where they're going for this show and where they're going
<v Speaker 14>for Sid's title reign in his short term future. And
<v Speaker 14>again to hear Sid tell it, he talked himself into
<v Speaker 14>thinking that he actually could get a run, that there
<v Speaker 14>was a way out of this, this this title win
<v Speaker 14>that didn't involve him losing it directly back to Sean
<v Speaker 14>and San Antonio. And here in an R video shoot interview,
<v Speaker 14>Sid what counts talking to Vince McMahon at the NAPTI
<v Speaker 14>convention about what was about to happen to his first
<v Speaker 14>WWF title run.
<v Speaker 15>Now, because that was the idea, you know, I guess
<v Speaker 15>I hear say that Sean's dream was to be in
<v Speaker 15>a big show like that in his hometown.
<v Speaker 26>All Right.
<v Speaker 15>The agreement was this, I take the belt at Survivor
<v Speaker 15>series and we'd keep it only as long as I
<v Speaker 15>was drawn. Okay, going to the Nazi Convention or wherever
<v Speaker 15>it's called, the New Orleans representing the WWF, you know,
<v Speaker 15>one day and Vincent I went in and we were talking.
<v Speaker 7>He said, said, he's right, two uns for you.
<v Speaker 15>Drop that belt back to Sean and san Antonio. I said, Evince,
<v Speaker 15>I said, you say the things were core good that
<v Speaker 15>you know, we want to think about it at least
<v Speaker 15>or talk about it. He said, no, See what I'm
<v Speaker 15>gonna do is this this is on down. We're gonna
<v Speaker 15>drop it on me, putting on there, and then we're
<v Speaker 15>gonna do a thirteen hour roll and each will put
<v Speaker 15>it back on you there. And that was my understanding.
<v Speaker 18>Was and that they did have all they had. The
<v Speaker 18>Thursday night wrong was scheduled but didn't go as planned.
<v Speaker 18>You know, Sean came out and gave the classic interview
<v Speaker 18>about losing his smile and never wound up, you know,
<v Speaker 18>losing the title that night.
<v Speaker 5>Was there any personal resignment from you towards Sewn.
<v Speaker 15>No that night, not Mae, because they'll tell you what
<v Speaker 15>this step my business, that's his business, and that's what
<v Speaker 15>I don't nobody in my business. If I want to
<v Speaker 15>do a no show or I want to fucking cuss
<v Speaker 15>up promotion. You know, I want my freedom to do
<v Speaker 15>what I want to do if I want, you know whatever.
<v Speaker 15>I don't judge anybody, but that's Sean. That's what Sean
<v Speaker 15>want to do. More power shot. It didn't bother me
<v Speaker 15>at all, you know. Uh, of course it's unprofessional, but
<v Speaker 15>you know didn't because it pays the same.
<v Speaker 17>Right, you know what I mean?
<v Speaker 16>Right?
<v Speaker 18>And the only reason I asked is because it's now
<v Speaker 18>infamous about the problems that Brent and Sean had behind
<v Speaker 18>the scenes, and it seemed like it's them from Sean
<v Speaker 18>not wanted to put Brett back over and Brett take
<v Speaker 18>it personally. That's why I asked with you. And you
<v Speaker 18>actually did some three ways with Breton Sean. Could you
<v Speaker 18>sense any tension between the two during the Three Ways?
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I was putting little situations like but uh, we
<v Speaker 15>all came out of it every night pretty good. It
<v Speaker 15>was a weird batch for it. Who booked out pretty good?
<v Speaker 16>Yeah?
<v Speaker 14>I mean he said he was always put in the
<v Speaker 14>middle of these situations. That's what we were saying.
<v Speaker 5>Yep, it's so fucking funny. I think part of the.
<v Speaker 14>Reason that you were so jarred back in the day
<v Speaker 14>as to why Sean suddenly didn't have the belt anymore,
<v Speaker 14>is what he just said. It was a Thursday night Raw. Yeah, right, exactly,
<v Speaker 14>That's definitely it. Like I missed that Thursday Night Raw.
<v Speaker 14>I didn't watch it. I forgot all about it for
<v Speaker 14>whatever reason on that Mondays.
<v Speaker 5>US Open or Dog Show whatever, right, and so you know,
<v Speaker 5>you know, for me, I was watching. You know, the
<v Speaker 5>last time I saw I saw the WW would have
<v Speaker 5>been the Monday previous, so two weeks had gone by
<v Speaker 5>for me before I realized that Shawn Michaels gave up
<v Speaker 5>the belt and Brettheart was a champion at Thursday Raw. Thursday.
<v Speaker 14>Yep, that was a very memorable night for a lot
<v Speaker 14>of reasons. It was live's Lowell mass. Sean does the
<v Speaker 14>the infamous I've lost my smile speech and relinquishes the belt,
<v Speaker 14>having tweaked his knee in one of the aforementioned triple
<v Speaker 14>threat matches off television with Brett Hart and sid that
<v Speaker 14>they were doing around the horn, and he, uh, you know,
<v Speaker 14>does it heartfelt speech in the ring and gives the
<v Speaker 14>championship to events and leaves and they do the whole
<v Speaker 14>tell Me a Live thing again where Sean leaves before
<v Speaker 14>he's supposed to. And yeah, according to what Sid says there,
<v Speaker 14>and according to the advertising going in, as we'll get to,
<v Speaker 14>it was supposed to be Shawn Michael's versus Sid for
<v Speaker 14>the title in the rematch on Thursday Raw Thursday, and
<v Speaker 14>Sid was supposed to do, at least according to the
<v Speaker 14>conversation he just recounted with Vince win the title back
<v Speaker 14>on that show. He doesn't, of course, end up winning
<v Speaker 14>it until the show We're going to Deep Dive next,
<v Speaker 14>the February seventeenth Raw. This one took place a little
<v Speaker 14>earlier in February. That's also the night where Rocky my
<v Speaker 14>Via wins the Intercontinental title for the first time, right
<v Speaker 14>beating Triple H and thus really accelerating the Die Rocky
<v Speaker 14>Die fan backlash, which is part and parcel of the
<v Speaker 14>same phenomenon that we were just talking about, with the
<v Speaker 14>fan siding with Sid over Sean.
<v Speaker 5>And Yeah, it's very true. That's a good point.
<v Speaker 14>It's all happening in real time. It ends up being
<v Speaker 14>Sid and yes, Sid and stone Cold in the main
<v Speaker 14>event of Thursday Raw Thursday, instead of really Sean. Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>and I don't know if I've ever seen the entire thing. Actually, yeah,
<v Speaker 14>it's quite it's quite a memorable night. Prickly in retrospect
<v Speaker 14>did a lot of stuff that ended up having ramifications.
<v Speaker 14>They go back to that show a lot, you know,
<v Speaker 14>and telling histories and stuff.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, it's always a thing.
<v Speaker 14>Now, Bruce takes a little bit of exception, saying, you know,
<v Speaker 14>this idea because Conrad references this interview and says that
<v Speaker 14>Sid was under the impression that as long as he
<v Speaker 14>was drawing his champion that he would continue having the strap,
<v Speaker 14>and Bruce, I think rightfully pushes back and says, no,
<v Speaker 14>it was always the idea. Everyone knew before Sid even
<v Speaker 14>beat Sean, that it was always a plan for Sid
<v Speaker 14>to drop the title Sean and san Antonio. And there
<v Speaker 14>was never this proviso that if you were drawing, we're
<v Speaker 14>going to leave it on you. That was never ever
<v Speaker 14>the case. He says, from our point of view, his
<v Speaker 14>talent was aware of that. Talent talent was aware of
<v Speaker 14>what we were going to do between Survivor's series and
<v Speaker 14>the World Rumble and what we were going to do
<v Speaker 14>at the Rumble, so that it just doesn't hold any
<v Speaker 14>water to suggest anything. You know that there was any
<v Speaker 14>other plan other than that, and I think that's very clear.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, there's no way you book Alamodome and put
<v Speaker 14>Sean in the main event and there's even a centil
<v Speaker 14>of a chance that he doesn't win the championship.
<v Speaker 5>Of course, I mean, or you know, yeah, it needs
<v Speaker 5>to be exactly.
<v Speaker 14>Exactly would be fucking death if they didn't have the
<v Speaker 14>happy ending there. And there's hardly in the early days,
<v Speaker 14>hardly any meditation on WIF television around Sid's era. You know,
<v Speaker 14>they're not really trying to tell the fans that this
<v Speaker 14>could be the beginning of a long rain. Not initially
<v Speaker 14>they don't say that, and of course that's probably because
<v Speaker 14>it wasn't supposed to be. But it's so obvious when
<v Speaker 14>you actually go back and watch all this stuff and
<v Speaker 14>realize everything about Sid is equal parts about Sean Michaels.
<v Speaker 14>Anything they say about Sid is just the entree to
<v Speaker 14>point out that he cheated by attacking Jose Thethario, and
<v Speaker 14>thus Shawn Michaels shouldn't be demerited for losing the title
<v Speaker 14>to Sid, because he lost it because he cared more
<v Speaker 14>for his mentor in this old Man than he did
<v Speaker 14>the championship and it's all about Sean, even though sid
<v Speaker 14>now was walking around his champion. There was a satellite
<v Speaker 14>interview where they they asked, Sean, who's now starting to
<v Speaker 14>show you know, he's starting to wear the stubble, he's
<v Speaker 14>starting to show a lot more grit on it interviews
<v Speaker 14>he started.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's he I think I talked about this
<v Speaker 5>when we did the ninety six Survivor series. He actually
<v Speaker 5>made me nervous that he was going to turn here.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah you're saying, and before or after the match? After
<v Speaker 5>the match? Yes, when he started, because he started acting
<v Speaker 5>a lot like Kevin Nash did when he lost about
<v Speaker 5>the year prior. That's the same playbook. And I was like,
<v Speaker 5>oh god, they're going to do this now, right, not Sean,
<v Speaker 5>He's my new Hogan. Amazing. Why do they keep doing
<v Speaker 5>this to me?
<v Speaker 14>It's weird They went that place with him, considering there
<v Speaker 14>was the Cinderella finish coming up at the Alamodome.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, exactly.
<v Speaker 14>But he starts acting out. I think Sean, you know,
<v Speaker 14>you read his book and hear him talk about the zero.
<v Speaker 5>He was so.
<v Speaker 14>At his own head about the presentation being all wrong.
<v Speaker 14>You know that this playing to you know, screaming teenage
<v Speaker 14>girls and being a boy toy and stuff that it
<v Speaker 14>was very clear after ninety six was done that that
<v Speaker 14>was not going to be his meal ticket. You know,
<v Speaker 14>that was not going to be the kind of presentation
<v Speaker 14>that was going to leave him perceived. He does a
<v Speaker 14>really successful champion, and he was always very insecure about
<v Speaker 14>being accepted at the level his predecessors.
<v Speaker 5>Were as a champion. That's a big thing.
<v Speaker 14>We finally get the strap and we heard, like Isaacady
<v Speaker 14>Guerrero for instance, struggle endlessly with feeling unworthy of having
<v Speaker 14>the belt. And for Sean, I mean, I think that
<v Speaker 14>is a huge part and we did a lot of
<v Speaker 14>the psychoanalysis of this when we did the ninety seven journey.
<v Speaker 14>A huge part of why there was tension with Brett
<v Speaker 14>is because Sean, when push came to CHEF never really
<v Speaker 14>felt like Brett was sincere in saying that Sean was
<v Speaker 14>going to be able to carry the WWF the way
<v Speaker 14>Brett did as champion, and that he never really never
<v Speaker 14>really did the things that Sean would have expected him
<v Speaker 14>to do to give him that boost and that acceptance
<v Speaker 14>and that endorsement, and he was always waiting for it,
<v Speaker 14>and he was always waiting for it, and when he
<v Speaker 14>finally didn't get it, over a period of time, he
<v Speaker 14>started acting out. And I think by the Winner of
<v Speaker 14>ninety six we're starting to see that where Sean is
<v Speaker 14>acting so much more. It's kind of like a preemptively
<v Speaker 14>defensive and everything he says on television, and I have
<v Speaker 14>to believe this is before every line was scripted for
<v Speaker 14>these guys. I have to believe that part of that
<v Speaker 14>is Sean trying to really go in a business himself
<v Speaker 14>to some degree and framing his presentation differently considering how
<v Speaker 14>massive the crowd rejection was in you know, the leading
<v Speaker 14>litmus test arena for Vince Madison, Square Garden. So he's
<v Speaker 14>talking about in the satellite interview as they're asking him,
<v Speaker 14>did it throw you off that so many fans were
<v Speaker 14>cheering sid And he's saying, it didn't throw me off.
<v Speaker 14>I always said, I want the fans at WWF to
<v Speaker 14>enjoy themselves. If I can't provide what wouldn't make them
<v Speaker 14>enjoy themselves, then they can get it from somewhere else.
<v Speaker 14>I want the people behind me, but I will not
<v Speaker 14>beg the people to be behind me. So he's starting
<v Speaker 14>to get that streak of like that fuck you.
<v Speaker 5>Right, it's in again. It made me very nervous.
<v Speaker 14>And they go to London and very nervous. And when
<v Speaker 14>they were there they shoot some TV and Steve Austin
<v Speaker 14>actually hit Sid with the belt. There was a little
<v Speaker 14>mini Sid Austin feud during all this that's kind of
<v Speaker 14>easy to I vaguely remember that. Yeah, they have Sid
<v Speaker 14>versus Austin for I think the first time at least
<v Speaker 14>on television a couple of weeks after the Survivor's series,
<v Speaker 14>and Austin hits Sid with the belt and Davy boy
<v Speaker 14>Smith actually runs out and starts fighting with Austin, and
<v Speaker 14>Sid is dq'ed. He goes to power bomb Davy boy
<v Speaker 14>Smith and Brett makes the save for Davy boy and
<v Speaker 14>then Brett and Sid go face to face. This is
<v Speaker 14>ahead of its time, of course, allowing Stone Cold to
<v Speaker 14>knee Brett from behind and then Sid choke slams Brett down.
<v Speaker 14>So it's all, you know, all the different cross currents here,
<v Speaker 14>everybody's feuds are intertwining. And then there's another Shawn Michael
<v Speaker 14>satellite interview that they it's almost like these damage control
<v Speaker 14>satellite interviews they're doing with Sean after Survivor series where
<v Speaker 14>they're just hammering that he did this for jose Lethario
<v Speaker 14>and he doesn't care if you don't cheer for him,
<v Speaker 14>and he's in for his supporters and all that. And
<v Speaker 14>this is one that I think colors in a lot
<v Speaker 14>of Sid's early presentation.
<v Speaker 5>Here is champion. Okay, I really don't know what the
<v Speaker 5>controversy is about.
<v Speaker 30>Why everybody is where aroulse sticking their nose in my business.
<v Speaker 11>First of all, you Brett Hart, you come down, you
<v Speaker 11>davy boy, you come down.
<v Speaker 3>There's no place for you there.
<v Speaker 7>So what happens when you stick your nose in my business?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?
<v Speaker 7>The champ I am the champion of the world.
<v Speaker 27>That says at all that says that I am the
<v Speaker 27>man that says that I am the master and the rule.
<v Speaker 28>The world.
<v Speaker 8>By New Era darding here in the world Roastic Federation
<v Speaker 8>with the highly aggressive cycle to the rating world ROSTI
<v Speaker 8>feration in Jamie'll just winning to end the title.
<v Speaker 4>I guess the hit man on the early Christmas President
<v Speaker 4>in your house that fits.
<v Speaker 5>But there it is.
<v Speaker 14>That's that's all tasty and new era. Did he just
<v Speaker 14>say yeah, yeah, it's fleeting, but they start talking about
<v Speaker 14>it and Sid kicks off the December ninth, nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 14>six braw as well in this vein.
<v Speaker 16>Welcome to be wanting a ww have Monday night Raw
<v Speaker 16>begin you along with Terry the King Lawer.
<v Speaker 4>And ed On Jr.
<v Speaker 13>And look goostrolling from the squ circles.
<v Speaker 4>No last than the World Last Thing Federation champion.
<v Speaker 8>Himself a monster of three hundred Conder's in jar An individual.
<v Speaker 4>Perhaps it's indeed leading us into a new here here.
<v Speaker 21>In the World Last Thing Federation of Donald Willis Morris
<v Speaker 21>Biscol Gifts are concerned, Sycho said, Maybe.
<v Speaker 2>The leader here in the w doesn't live for a
<v Speaker 2>long time to come.
<v Speaker 3>But what a cross road.
<v Speaker 21>Psycho sit and finds himself backing this Sunday on pay
<v Speaker 21>per view, because will it be time for Psycho said
<v Speaker 21>to catch his name into immortality there you see it?
<v Speaker 21>Or will it be Brett Hart's opportunity to regain the
<v Speaker 21>WWF title for the fourth time.
<v Speaker 2>Give me a break, Jim Rush.
<v Speaker 32>I don't see anybody in the WWF they can beat
<v Speaker 32>Psycho Sid right now.
<v Speaker 2>Look you beat Sewn Michaels, He'll beat.
<v Speaker 6>Bret to hit man heart looking woo him down.
<v Speaker 8>Look at that cych co Sid, But we're all ross
<v Speaker 8>plays fighter action champion tonight.
<v Speaker 4>And going against another champion.
<v Speaker 8>Yes it's a champion pursus champion, sich Com said, perhaps
<v Speaker 8>power bombing us off here raw as sids work up.
<v Speaker 13>Again come late.
<v Speaker 2>Hum.
<v Speaker 14>So there's the framing new era of stuff, talking about
<v Speaker 14>his his physical gifts and all that. But it really
<v Speaker 14>starts to sound to me like, you know, this is
<v Speaker 14>going to be the only time Sid's going to headline
<v Speaker 14>the pay per view as champion. We better we better
<v Speaker 14>hurry up and accelerate the hype for this guy as
<v Speaker 14>someone that uh is worth buying a pay per view
<v Speaker 14>to see defend the championship and create the impression that
<v Speaker 14>you know, you're watching history in the making with him
<v Speaker 14>defending as opposed to it's kind of hard to get
<v Speaker 14>people to buy a champ a championship match when you
<v Speaker 14>think the champions lame duck. But it's just all of
<v Speaker 14>a sudden, it switches from Sean got screwed, Shawn got screwed.
<v Speaker 14>Sid won the belt, But that doesn't really that's not
<v Speaker 14>the story here to Sid is launching a new era
<v Speaker 14>of aggression here in the WWF.
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of weird now, it's so fucking convoluted and
<v Speaker 5>it's so phony.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, because they didn't really, they didn't react that
<v Speaker 14>way when Sid first won the belt, and now that
<v Speaker 14>there's a pay per view to sell without Sewn involved,
<v Speaker 14>it's like, well, we got to really kind of make
<v Speaker 14>it about Sid because we're not No one's going to
<v Speaker 14>buy this pay per view for what Shawn does. He
<v Speaker 14>doesn't have a match. He's going to be there, but
<v Speaker 14>we can't spend much more time emphasizing Sean and the
<v Speaker 14>damage control element of it, or it seemed to me
<v Speaker 14>at least to be damage control. But I think also
<v Speaker 14>we've got a lot for the possibility that week to
<v Speaker 14>week they're changing course, you know, they're trying to decide
<v Speaker 14>what's going to be most effective for that WrestleMania. The
<v Speaker 14>loosely sketched out plan of the Shawn Brett rematches very
<v Speaker 14>clearly becoming a fraught thing. It's not going to be
<v Speaker 14>very easy to put that match together. Definitely not going
<v Speaker 14>to be easy to get Brett the win back, which
<v Speaker 14>is probably the only way they could get that match
<v Speaker 14>in the ring. I'm not sure Brett would be a
<v Speaker 14>huge fan of losing to Shawn again to Wrestlemani's.
<v Speaker 5>In row, No, not at all.
<v Speaker 14>I cannot say this. Shawn Michaels in the state of mine.
<v Speaker 14>He's in agreeing to do the honors either. So that
<v Speaker 14>whole U come to Jesus conversation about how I just
<v Speaker 14>want you to know I wouldn't return the favor for you, Brett.
<v Speaker 14>I think could have been pushed forward quite a few
<v Speaker 14>months if if the issue was forced to WrestleMania thirteen,
<v Speaker 14>But for now, its time is on the calendar. Sids
<v Speaker 14>the champion, and we're going to frame him as a
<v Speaker 14>revolutionary New Era flag bearer on that. On an episode
<v Speaker 14>of Raw, as Vince was talking about he was to
<v Speaker 14>face Triple H. You at the time was the continental champion,
<v Speaker 14>and during the course of the match, Sid hits Triple
<v Speaker 14>H with a huge guerrilla press slam. They start fighting
<v Speaker 14>in the isle way. He power bombs him out there
<v Speaker 14>on the floor, but actually they get back in the ring,
<v Speaker 14>he power bombs him, Triple H rolls out, crawls up
<v Speaker 14>the aisle, and is counted out of the ring. So
<v Speaker 14>this WWF champion that's harbor the harboring der of a
<v Speaker 14>new era of aggression and dominance in the Wwfah can't
<v Speaker 14>even beat Triple H by pinfall. I mean, so I
<v Speaker 14>would love to know the negotiation that went on there,
<v Speaker 14>because this is, you know, this is Triple H starting
<v Speaker 14>to come out of the penalty box from the whole
<v Speaker 14>click incident as ninety six becomes ninety seven and now
<v Speaker 14>he's got the championship belt and he's gonna win King
<v Speaker 14>of the Ring again in ninety seven's it's just amazing
<v Speaker 14>to me that you just can't have Sid just beat
<v Speaker 14>the intercontinental champion to further cement him as your man.
<v Speaker 14>But those are the kind of things like, okay, those
<v Speaker 14>little signals I feel like that you give to the fans.
<v Speaker 14>So this guy isn't actually a long champion because he's not.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're like they're completely uh uh you know, they're
<v Speaker 5>they're they're they're not making him feel important. They're not
<v Speaker 5>making him feel like he's worth paying attention to me
<v Speaker 5>or investing in. Right, he's not.
<v Speaker 14>He's not having the definitive outcomes that a champion of
<v Speaker 14>tenure would. You know that they've trained the fans to
<v Speaker 14>expect from a champion that's going to have a tenure
<v Speaker 14>with the belt. And as this all happens, as Triple
<v Speaker 14>H crawls up the aisle to avoid the pinfall, Sid's
<v Speaker 14>got this flat look on his face like he's watching
<v Speaker 14>the cashier ring him up or something, and it's like normal, look, yeah,
<v Speaker 14>he looks like a guy competing at a protest. Really,
<v Speaker 14>and they would get to the its time pay per view,
<v Speaker 14>which is mentioned is in December, I think December fourteenth,
<v Speaker 14>ninety sixth plus Palm Beach, Florida. And of course back
<v Speaker 14>at the time, Superstars was still on syndicated television on
<v Speaker 14>Saturday Sunday mornings of.
<v Speaker 5>Pay per views, and so you'd wrestled twice in the day.
<v Speaker 14>Well, if there was a match in the can that
<v Speaker 14>had been taped weeks before, yeah, sometimes they'd play that
<v Speaker 14>match in the morning of the pay per view and
<v Speaker 14>then you'd wrestle that night. And just like you said,
<v Speaker 14>on the pay per view, they talk as if you
<v Speaker 14>wrestled earlier that same very day, which is just hilarious.
<v Speaker 14>But in this case, they would set up a live remotes.
<v Speaker 14>So if you watch Superstars that Sunday morning and this
<v Speaker 14>gets me really cozy, this thought of like, you know,
<v Speaker 14>Bowl of Cereal pay per view and you watch Superstars
<v Speaker 14>at eleven in the morning and they're there in the arena.
<v Speaker 14>The arena is empty, you can see all the empare
<v Speaker 14>Oh I love that. Yep, so good, such a good
<v Speaker 14>use of that time. And they're telling you tonight's the
<v Speaker 14>night and they'll have interviews with the principles, and you
<v Speaker 14>just get this sense, you know, kind of like how
<v Speaker 14>the you know, the super Bowl pre show, even though
<v Speaker 14>the super Bowl doesn't kick off till whatever it is,
<v Speaker 14>eight thirty starting at noon.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but you watched, yeah exactly, you watch all the
<v Speaker 5>shit leading up to it.
<v Speaker 14>You at least get a glimpse of the terrain and
<v Speaker 14>the and the atmosphere and the energy, and you get it.
<v Speaker 14>You hear from from from the players, and you get
<v Speaker 14>a sense of what's going to mean to them when
<v Speaker 14>they finally hit that field. And that's what these little
<v Speaker 14>Superstars occasions would mean. And and Sid actually had some
<v Speaker 14>some some bright shining moments during some of these, uh,
<v Speaker 14>these Superstars previews, if you can call them that, that
<v Speaker 14>morning of its time. Sid is outside in westbaum Commentation,
<v Speaker 14>commenting on the match after Shawn Michaels had done an
<v Speaker 14>interview going off pretty much just on Brett Hart exclusively,
<v Speaker 14>and then they did an actual face off between Brett
<v Speaker 14>and Sean outside the venue in the daylight near some
<v Speaker 14>palm trees and they're jaw jacking and talking trash. So
<v Speaker 14>they basically shot angles for Superstars that morning, and it
<v Speaker 14>definitely seems like they had even up to its time
<v Speaker 14>a Sean Brett match in mind, it still seemed like
<v Speaker 14>loosely penciled in as we're building to Brett Seawan again,
<v Speaker 14>because they are not leading people to want to see
<v Speaker 14>something different than that after Sean gets the belt back.
<v Speaker 14>They are really getting you to want to see Brett
<v Speaker 14>and Sean again. There's no other way to watch this.
<v Speaker 14>This television show. It's interesting, yeah, and it's lost, and
<v Speaker 14>it's lost to history because people just accelerate right from
<v Speaker 14>Survivors series to Royal Rumble, and by Rumble, I feel like,
<v Speaker 14>you know, lost in winning and stuff. It's a little
<v Speaker 14>more up for grabs. And then of course the knee
<v Speaker 14>injury happens and Sean relinquishes the championship, and then whatever
<v Speaker 14>vestiges there may have been off Brett sewn in a rematch,
<v Speaker 14>go down the toilet, but they're definitely still comfortable as
<v Speaker 14>of the superstars. The morning of it's time pointing fans
<v Speaker 14>toward a Shan Brett rematch and trying to get them
<v Speaker 14>hyped for it. And here on that broadcast is Sid
<v Speaker 14>weighing in and all that's happening around him as WWF Champion.
<v Speaker 10>The WWF Champion, Psycho Sid.
<v Speaker 33>It is sold out here tonight and millions of people
<v Speaker 33>will be watching on pay per view in your house.
<v Speaker 10>It's time your challenger, Brett Hart.
<v Speaker 33>Feels it's time for him to regain the WWF title
<v Speaker 33>for a fourth time.
<v Speaker 10>A lot of other people feel it is a new
<v Speaker 10>error here in the WWF.
<v Speaker 4>It's Psycho Sid.
<v Speaker 5>Time see it.
<v Speaker 11>You're exactly right, And what I feel, I feel a
<v Speaker 11>little parannoy you coming from you here, man, and no
<v Speaker 11>reason why, because you consider yourself the best there is,
<v Speaker 11>the bester was and the best ever be. So you
<v Speaker 11>gotta understand something, my friend, you're.
<v Speaker 10>A great technical wrestler, but.
<v Speaker 11>I beat the greatest technical wrestler of all time, and
<v Speaker 11>that's Sean Michaels, And so wow, he is planning in
<v Speaker 11>the back of your head, and you know that you've
<v Speaker 11>got to come to my game plan.
<v Speaker 10>Hey, that is power, power.
<v Speaker 3>That you don't have.
<v Speaker 33>All right, Well, speaking of Sean Michaels, he'll be at
<v Speaker 33>ringside doing color commentary tonight.
<v Speaker 10>Is that going to be a major distraction?
<v Speaker 2>No, it won't be good.
<v Speaker 11>I'll tell you something, Sean, if you stick to your
<v Speaker 11>nose in my business, you'll get the exact same thing.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank god.
<v Speaker 10>But so it won't bother you none whatsoever. There's Seawn Michaels.
<v Speaker 4>Who sit.
<v Speaker 14>Sewn, just flies into frame and jumps on said, wow,
<v Speaker 14>street clothes like black shirt, black jeans. Way, I'm pretty
<v Speaker 14>sure you can hear Vincent there. Hey, knock it off.
<v Speaker 14>Knock it off, ye, knock it off. Goddamn you remember
<v Speaker 14>that Sid doing an interview outdoors and like the sunny
<v Speaker 14>Florida and then Sean flies into the frame with like
<v Speaker 14>a planchet.
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember at all.
<v Speaker 14>I think they replay it during the body of the
<v Speaker 14>Royal Rumble nineteen ninety seven. Pardon me, it's time ninety
<v Speaker 14>six broadcast. So yeah, Sean's showing up and he's fighting
<v Speaker 14>anybody at noon. It's pretty it's pretty wild.
<v Speaker 5>Then that sounds like Sean during during ninety the nineties.
<v Speaker 14>It's Sean looking for anybody to fuck with. And then
<v Speaker 14>later on during the pay per view itself, with the
<v Speaker 14>white painter's cap on backwards, Sid has this to say.
<v Speaker 33>Oh God, you have found out in a short you've
<v Speaker 33>been World Wrestling Federation champion.
<v Speaker 30>You are no longer the hunter. You are the hunted.
<v Speaker 33>I'd like to take you back to earlier this morning
<v Speaker 33>on Sunday Morning Superstars, when that has never been more evident.
<v Speaker 10>Now there it was Shawn Michaels diving on you.
<v Speaker 33>As I was conducting an interview with you, out comes
<v Speaker 33>Brett harton At one time you and Brett Hart are.
<v Speaker 4>Both beating on Shawn Michaels.
<v Speaker 33>And then Brett Hart really made the big bad mistake
<v Speaker 33>of turning his back on Psycho Sid. And boy, you
<v Speaker 33>sure took advantage of that opportunity. As we can see
<v Speaker 33>right here here it comes wow.
<v Speaker 6>Thiss like that. Dot.
<v Speaker 11>See if you head the loan by now see, don't
<v Speaker 11>put your nose in my business. And if you can't
<v Speaker 11>believe that as today.
<v Speaker 33>All right, Sid, but Jose aside tonight you can squelch
<v Speaker 33>the critics. You can silence everybody by defeating the legend
<v Speaker 33>Breda hit Man, Heart, bad Hair and the future.
<v Speaker 3>We make take it that top Brett, Shine, be.
<v Speaker 7>Je Shine and Shine fall. It's easy.
<v Speaker 28>Last.
<v Speaker 10>Thanks, all right, all right, Vince back to you at rings.
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<v Speaker 5>Sorrow barely understand Dan thing. You know, so you get
<v Speaker 5>to kind of change it up a little bit. You know,
<v Speaker 5>I might might get it. You're a master of the
<v Speaker 5>ruler blah blah blah bah blah. But you know, maybe
<v Speaker 5>say something new, something fresh, something that maybe isn't that.
<v Speaker 5>Please maybe say you're you're a goldfish, You're a monkey.
<v Speaker 5>I'm the monkey and the ruler of the world fans,
<v Speaker 5>if if that's what it takes, Yes, maybe say you're
<v Speaker 5>a goldfish or a monkey. Yeah it's a little a
<v Speaker 5>little monkey's uncle maybe.
<v Speaker 14>And uh something from that major And on his entrance
<v Speaker 14>to face bretton the main event of this In Your
<v Speaker 14>House show, Vince is talking like Sid's going to be
<v Speaker 14>the dominant champion, for years to come. And then Shawn,
<v Speaker 14>who gets on color commentary, call Sid the WWF's most
<v Speaker 14>expensive piece of luggage. He says, me and others carry
<v Speaker 14>him here and carry him there. Oh my god, Shawn says.
<v Speaker 14>Shawn is now totally id. It's just shouting everything. He says,
<v Speaker 14>gave him a live mic and he just like lets
<v Speaker 14>all of his insecurities pour out onto the television screen
<v Speaker 14>during the course of the match.
<v Speaker 5>It's a good one.
<v Speaker 14>Sid always worked well with Brett, Suplex's and mayors and
<v Speaker 14>Sid's taking bumps. And then suddenly Austin comes out and
<v Speaker 14>chop blocks Bred on the floor. This leads to Bulldog
<v Speaker 14>and Owen coming out to stop them, which again leads
<v Speaker 14>further credence to the idea that before Austin was to
<v Speaker 14>face Brett at WrestleMania thirteen and the Infamous, not the Infamous,
<v Speaker 14>the famous submission match, it was to be Steve Austin
<v Speaker 14>versus Davy boys.
<v Speaker 5>Smith, which just hurts. It hurts. It's hurts so bad.
<v Speaker 14>When they still thought that there was a chance Brett
<v Speaker 14>and Seawan were going to tangle in Chicago. So Brett
<v Speaker 14>now has a bad wheel thank to Steve Austin's blindsided
<v Speaker 14>at t the action hits the floor, Sid goes over
<v Speaker 14>to the announced table and pie face as Shawn Michaels
<v Speaker 14>sewn gets up on the apron and Sid tosses Brett
<v Speaker 14>into Shawn Michaels, leading to a collision and that allows
<v Speaker 14>Sid to hook Bread up for the power bomb and
<v Speaker 14>the one two three. SID defeats Brett Hart to retain
<v Speaker 14>the title and the only pay per view he ever
<v Speaker 14>went into and successfully defended the title against an opponent.
<v Speaker 5>That is true, that's a very good point of time.
<v Speaker 14>The next night, the December sixteenth, nineteen ninety six, Raw, Brett,
<v Speaker 14>of course has many grievances because of Sewan and Steve
<v Speaker 14>Austin's interference. Says, there's no good reason I'm not the
<v Speaker 14>World Wrestling Federation Champion, and I feel like here the
<v Speaker 14>Raw after its time is where they really turn up
<v Speaker 14>the dial on Brett as the whiny complainer because he's
<v Speaker 14>not just making points that are valid, but you can
<v Speaker 14>kind of hear the announcers kind of like try to
<v Speaker 14>kind of coach you to start to have a bad
<v Speaker 14>taste in your mouth about this guy, Like we've heard
<v Speaker 14>enough of this, Like win the championship man or shut
<v Speaker 14>the fuck up. And then that's when Brett starts talking
<v Speaker 14>about how you know things have changed, I don't know
<v Speaker 14>who my friends are anymore in the WWF, you don't
<v Speaker 14>know what the rules are. Remember that that's because there
<v Speaker 14>is no rules. And then they call Sean prissy. He says,
<v Speaker 14>you said you wouldn't interfere in the match, and you did,
<v Speaker 14>and Sean can't handle that. He's not as boy toy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>that's that's coming. And you can hear the words if
<v Speaker 14>coming out of Brett's mouth. Sean just can't handle that.
<v Speaker 14>He's not as good as I am.
<v Speaker 5>You can just hear it. You can hear it. And
<v Speaker 5>on that show, it's a Austin versus Vader, like holy shit,
<v Speaker 5>you know they they weren't shying away from Steve Austin
<v Speaker 5>building up his tough guy bona fides, despite doing sneak
<v Speaker 5>attacks on Brett to put him in there with Vader
<v Speaker 5>and have him go toe to toe and fucking slug
<v Speaker 5>it out with him. Oh yeah, I mean that's I mean,
<v Speaker 5>they're really doing such an amazing it's really amazing work
<v Speaker 5>they do with Austin. Yeah, especially it's really remarkable for it.
<v Speaker 14>Like really crystallizes. You're like, wow, yep, they actually were
<v Speaker 14>really smart every step of the way, and like doing
<v Speaker 14>little things to make you still realize that as sneaky
<v Speaker 14>of a motherfucker, Steve as he's not running away from anything.
<v Speaker 14>He just rabbid and that will actually come to love
<v Speaker 14>him for that. And during the course of this match
<v Speaker 14>with Vader in the main event of the Raw, after
<v Speaker 14>its time, Brett hard actually shows back up and attacks
<v Speaker 14>Steve Austin on the floor and chop blocks him and
<v Speaker 14>puts him in the sharpshooter, And that's a big uh.
<v Speaker 14>That's a big moment too where Brett is kind of
<v Speaker 14>being aggressive in a way that we should boo him
<v Speaker 14>as justified as he may be in his frustrations with
<v Speaker 14>Steve Austin and costing him the championship the night before.
<v Speaker 14>He's carrying himself in a way that we haven't really
<v Speaker 14>been programmed to cheer, and of course Sid has something
<v Speaker 14>to say about it all because he's still remember me,
<v Speaker 14>you're WWF champion.
<v Speaker 8>Gentlemen, we have pretty much core get to you the
<v Speaker 8>one and only what like butter Rectionia champion, showing us now.
<v Speaker 5>Goodhead, but the moment the fake razor music, of course annoying.
<v Speaker 16>Thank you very much, mister fitz McMahon said, you haven't
<v Speaker 16>crossed the entire world westing direction.
<v Speaker 4>J I just paide a point.
<v Speaker 8>In less than thirty days, while you have dominated to
<v Speaker 8>the extent, you have defeated Sean Michaels with a power bomb.
<v Speaker 8>You have defeated Prett Hart with a power bomb in
<v Speaker 8>less than thirty days.
<v Speaker 4>Can anyone stop you? Can anyone take.
<v Speaker 2>That title from you?
<v Speaker 4>Dis No, It's simple.
<v Speaker 11>See the game might play. I am the master, and
<v Speaker 11>if you step back to the ring, you will go down.
<v Speaker 4>All right, Then let's take you to the Alamo dum.
<v Speaker 34>The day will be January nineteenth, Seventy thousand fans will
<v Speaker 34>jam packed the arena said, and when you face Sean Michaels,
<v Speaker 34>the outcome of that is didn't question at all as
<v Speaker 34>far as you're concerning.
<v Speaker 30>I'm gonna tell you something.
<v Speaker 3>I know I'm going to shine Michael's backyard.
<v Speaker 30>But you gotta understand something, mister McMahon.
<v Speaker 11>I thrive, I thrive unversity. So it will be my victory,
<v Speaker 11>a sweet victory to walk into San Antonio and take
<v Speaker 11>Sean Michaels way more.
<v Speaker 3>Don way more don to the top, two feet up
<v Speaker 3>and two down.
<v Speaker 7>It works.
<v Speaker 4>And as far as don't get it, I think your
<v Speaker 4>part be interrupting it. As far as Jose la.
<v Speaker 8>Fario is concerned, he's Valcavie in the corner of Shawn
<v Speaker 8>Michael's once again.
<v Speaker 4>And I wouldn't think that would necessarily concern you though, will.
<v Speaker 11>No, I'm gonna tell you some pose. Remember what happened
<v Speaker 11>to Survivor series. Do yourself favor and stay at home
<v Speaker 11>where you belong.
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, thank you
<v Speaker 8>for joining us, Psycho said World of Rustling Counteraction.
<v Speaker 14>Champions, and had taken a step further. The next week,
<v Speaker 14>December twenty third, nineteen ninety six edition of Monday Night Raw,
<v Speaker 14>Sid visits with Vince.
<v Speaker 4>There's a little food for thought there.
<v Speaker 21>You can't talk to this man, and he is the
<v Speaker 21>man sixty nine, three hundred and thirteen pounds, but he got.
<v Speaker 3>A wonder one of the folks in.
<v Speaker 21>San Antonio think of Psycho, said, the folks in New
<v Speaker 21>York City.
<v Speaker 2>Loved him at the Survivor's here.
<v Speaker 13>I don't think sim will get that kind of reception.
<v Speaker 21>It's San Antonio at the Altamodome on January nineteen.
<v Speaker 13>What a magnificent physical specimen.
<v Speaker 4>He is not tendingly cure.
<v Speaker 21>He beats people in a pad with a string and
<v Speaker 21>what's been timid.
<v Speaker 14>Edison always apologizing for his lack of technical skills.
<v Speaker 5>I know, well that's that's the j R. Way Federation.
<v Speaker 5>City is young. This that is true.
<v Speaker 13>Man Sean Michael is looking on as we speak back
<v Speaker 13>in the locker.
<v Speaker 4>Amarion here he is psychos in less than thirty days.
<v Speaker 5>Keep the music going. Hear that power bombs go yeah.
<v Speaker 8>As power bomb roughly hitting man hard defeated both individual
<v Speaker 8>and indeed establish your dominant. It seems to me, however,
<v Speaker 8>that John Michaels has an attitude rent the hitting man
<v Speaker 8>heart as an attitude.
<v Speaker 5>Attitude is that word? Very interesting, Undertaker.
<v Speaker 4>Everybody has an attitude. When it comes.
<v Speaker 8>Attitude, Oliver, I would suggest that they all are going
<v Speaker 8>to be playing right into your hands.
<v Speaker 11>I do you think about second for a second. With
<v Speaker 11>the thirty days, I had to feed it the two
<v Speaker 11>waited technical wrestlers thround the world, but the game they
<v Speaker 11>played was technicality.
<v Speaker 3>And then at the end there was only power.
<v Speaker 19>For well, walk the ground guy, listen.
<v Speaker 11>Right, because I understood repredator, But the World.
<v Speaker 3>Wrestling Federation.
<v Speaker 5>Should say that after that there is.
<v Speaker 30>About the world.
<v Speaker 4>What was was Shan microsby thinking.
<v Speaker 30>But I will everyone to realize one thing.
<v Speaker 11>As I stand here right now, I am six foot
<v Speaker 11>nine and over three hundred.
<v Speaker 4>Pounds, and tomorrow I was a sixty.
<v Speaker 25>Times three hundred pounds.
<v Speaker 10>No doubt, I'm a going to day after and the
<v Speaker 10>day after.
<v Speaker 19>Earthy day after.
<v Speaker 5>This man is he's little nets but stuff. To be
<v Speaker 5>honest about it, I don't know, not working for me. No,
<v Speaker 5>I mean, listen, he says the same thing over and
<v Speaker 5>over again. It's not you know he it's kind of
<v Speaker 5>funny because he I feel like he had more to
<v Speaker 5>say in ninety two.
<v Speaker 6>You know.
<v Speaker 5>Now it's just the same shit over and over again. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>you're probably right.
<v Speaker 14>It got the psycho character, so it's like it's all
<v Speaker 14>affect and like there doesn't seem to be a great
<v Speaker 14>depth of things that he's able to pull out and say.
<v Speaker 14>It's just like as long as I scream and laugh
<v Speaker 14>maniacally at certain beats. They clearly fed him the super
<v Speaker 14>Predator line that was a new one. Yeah, that was
<v Speaker 14>a big one in the news, like a characterizing like
<v Speaker 14>inner city youth that were killing and murders like super predators.
<v Speaker 14>That's very ninety six of them to try to adopt
<v Speaker 14>that phrase and their Sid just try and trying to
<v Speaker 14>to sound like somebody that we should receive as our
<v Speaker 14>WWF champion, And I'm not sure it's working.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I don't think it is.
<v Speaker 14>Well, we do have the great luxury of Sid having
<v Speaker 14>taken the strap right around Christmas time as we head
<v Speaker 14>into the holiday season here as well. We were the
<v Speaker 14>beneficiaries because when the crack WWF production staff got together
<v Speaker 14>to try to come up with some holiday themed content
<v Speaker 14>for the syndicated weekend shows and such, the fact that
<v Speaker 14>Sid was champion allowed them to create a little jingle.
<v Speaker 14>Do you remember this, No happy Holidays from the World
<v Speaker 14>Wrestling Families.
<v Speaker 5>You're a damn right, So yeah you better? Uh what
<v Speaker 5>was it?
<v Speaker 14>A choke slam and a power bomb and uh, they
<v Speaker 14>were just they were just trying to make holiday content
<v Speaker 14>around Sid. It was so bizarre.
<v Speaker 5>And you know when they would do that around certain guys,
<v Speaker 5>it was always so fucking weird. You know, it's a guy.
<v Speaker 5>You know, there's one. There are a few people, and
<v Speaker 5>Sid's one of them. You don't need to make him Christmas,
<v Speaker 5>all right, he's like the he's like the opposite of Christmas.
<v Speaker 14>It doesn't occur to them like whether it fits. It's
<v Speaker 14>just like, well, all these guys are fair game for
<v Speaker 14>a little well we do can't well we could be lighthearted,
<v Speaker 14>we can have some fun. These guys are entertainers.
<v Speaker 5>It's like like like like the entertained.
<v Speaker 14>Actually Sid isn't an entertainer, Vince, He's if you make
<v Speaker 14>him a parade float, suddenly he's he's not as interesting
<v Speaker 14>to watch as a wrestler now as yeah uh. And
<v Speaker 14>to further humanize the man, probably to his detriment, Let's
<v Speaker 14>not forget. This is also the winter of Live Why
<v Speaker 14>the Live Wire experiment October I believe it was they
<v Speaker 14>or September, they just started doing this Saturday morning call
<v Speaker 14>in show concept from the television facilities in Stanford, where
<v Speaker 14>you know it would just be Vince and Sonny or
<v Speaker 14>Jim Ross or whoever it was. Vince Russo be involved
<v Speaker 14>taking phone calls from ww fans and emails and stuff,
<v Speaker 14>and they'd have special in guests in studio, guests that
<v Speaker 14>would you know, ninety percent k fabe in the interviews.
<v Speaker 14>But you know, it was interesting because they take calls
<v Speaker 14>from people that would ask about WCW and kind of
<v Speaker 14>like troll jobs, and they'd try to, you know, Vince
<v Speaker 14>Russo would try to say shooty things on the show.
<v Speaker 5>And uh, what do you know?
<v Speaker 14>Christmas nineteen ninety six, that live wire not Christmas Day,
<v Speaker 14>but that you know, the live wire before Christmas. Sid
<v Speaker 14>makes the trip. The WWF champion is in studio, and Boss,
<v Speaker 14>you better believe he's taking your calls.
<v Speaker 32>But if we take some calls from the subs and
<v Speaker 32>go to Craig in Florida, Craig you.
<v Speaker 35>That, oh, I'm certainly here. Good morning to you.
<v Speaker 5>Donc get goodness sure this is a real guy.
<v Speaker 35>By the way you the man did. I was there
<v Speaker 35>West Palm Beat Auditorium. The way you took care of Brett.
<v Speaker 25>To hit man heart a thing of beauty.
<v Speaker 35>I got to tell you, root for you to take
<v Speaker 35>care of Sewn Michaels.
<v Speaker 31>I'm tired of hearing him running his mouth, complaining Brett
<v Speaker 31>Harr complaining you got anything in doors special for Shawn
<v Speaker 31>Michaels to take him down.
<v Speaker 9>I'm will tell you a step that I'm going to
<v Speaker 9>take to Sean Michael's Trim Survivor series when has always
<v Speaker 9>worked for me, and that is my game plan. That
<v Speaker 9>is power, that is strange, and that's what's coming straight on,
<v Speaker 9>straight on.
<v Speaker 5>Well right now, tell you who's straight on.
<v Speaker 36>Today?
<v Speaker 25>Good morning, b You have a question?
<v Speaker 35>Ever said? Yeah, Well, first of all, I decided I'm
<v Speaker 35>a major SIT fan for years. I think it's about
<v Speaker 35>time that he has a title. Right, And my question
<v Speaker 35>is how older wife said, doesn't put his opponents o
<v Speaker 35>stretcher and knocking on the alley more like he used to.
<v Speaker 5>Well, let me tell you something.
<v Speaker 12>See that's what that's what I might have him store
<v Speaker 12>coming Alamo. Don't but don't be surprised if it happened
<v Speaker 12>and Yushaine Michael or the first one to be stretchered out.
<v Speaker 2>Cool.
<v Speaker 4>I believe them could be a prophetics named it. There
<v Speaker 4>are you saying that you would like to.
<v Speaker 33>Have Shawn stretched out in front of seventy thousand people?
<v Speaker 9>I would just say that it would it would just
<v Speaker 9>prove everyone's too is demand?
<v Speaker 33>Well, I would have to say, right now, twenty seven days,
<v Speaker 33>you power bomb Brett Hard and Shawn Michael's within that
<v Speaker 33>twenty seven days. Undoubtedly we are in a new era
<v Speaker 33>here in the World Wrestling Federation.
<v Speaker 16>But sid you.
<v Speaker 33>Gotta admit your work's cut out for you three weeks
<v Speaker 33>from the morrow.
<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm gonna tell you something. My work has been
<v Speaker 9>cut out the day one dog, But I'm gonna tell
<v Speaker 9>you something.
<v Speaker 5>My head's off to you, SHAWNE.
<v Speaker 17>Michael.
<v Speaker 5>My hat's off to you.
<v Speaker 9>Bretton Hitman Heart, the one time World Wrestling Federation Champion.
<v Speaker 9>I now know the pressures of having this belt around
<v Speaker 9>your waist. I feel the pressures on my shoulders, but
<v Speaker 9>I actually take the pressures and I can carry the
<v Speaker 9>load of the World Wrestling Federation.
<v Speaker 25>Let me ask you about pressure.
<v Speaker 5>Now.
<v Speaker 25>We talked about this earlier.
<v Speaker 4>You do have a beat fan following.
<v Speaker 5>Your mindset.
<v Speaker 25>You don't care what happens as long as you get
<v Speaker 25>a victory.
<v Speaker 13>Now, how important are these people as far as motivating you?
<v Speaker 5>Will tell you something.
<v Speaker 9>When you're down, your look, your face is down on
<v Speaker 9>the mat. The only thing that brings you up is
<v Speaker 9>the fans, either doing or cheering the fans. Everything that
<v Speaker 9>comes through your body and out through into your heart
<v Speaker 9>and out your eyes, out to your skin.
<v Speaker 4>Pards here feel the fans.
<v Speaker 5>I feel them, and.
<v Speaker 9>I've heard them from day once since I've been back
<v Speaker 9>in the World Rusting Federation, and I will continue.
<v Speaker 5>Doc.
<v Speaker 6>Are you go ahead?
<v Speaker 37>Would one mind taking another phone call?
<v Speaker 13>And those people would love to shock you.
<v Speaker 27>Let's take Mike in Connecticut.
<v Speaker 35>Mikey there, Yeah, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 5>You got a question for sick?
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?
<v Speaker 17>Happy holidays everybody.
<v Speaker 36>Thank you.
<v Speaker 35>Sid.
<v Speaker 17>I just want to say I'm a major fan of yours.
<v Speaker 35>I'm glad that you destroyed the heartburn kid there, and uh,
<v Speaker 35>what's on?
<v Speaker 15>Uh?
<v Speaker 17>What else is on the horizon for sit in ninety seven,
<v Speaker 17>not only with yeah on coming.
<v Speaker 13>Up and possibly Brett, but maybe a possible match with
<v Speaker 13>you Invader maybe.
<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm gonna tell you something.
<v Speaker 6>Messages.
<v Speaker 9>Being the World Wrestling Fair Racing Champion, you cannot go
<v Speaker 9>by thinking who's your next opponent.
<v Speaker 17>You gotta live off the interstinct.
<v Speaker 9>And instinct is the only thing that's gonna make you survive,
<v Speaker 9>help you make it to the next day.
<v Speaker 17>And that's the one thing I have going for me
<v Speaker 17>is good instinct.
<v Speaker 1>I have a la fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast
<v Speaker 1>that knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed
<v Speaker 1>fan fan wrestling with Jack.
<v Speaker 5>And that's the one thing he's got going for him.
<v Speaker 5>Boss Good. Who's the woman there that's sunny?
<v Speaker 15>It was.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, obviously the tape quality is poor, but they don't
<v Speaker 14>have pristine quality ones on the on the network for
<v Speaker 14>this live wire stuff. But yeah, that's one thing he's
<v Speaker 14>always had going for him as instinct, uh.
<v Speaker 5>Is in Yes he stinks.
<v Speaker 14>Isn't he such a charmer? And that extemporaneous speaking role,
<v Speaker 14>it's awful. What's awful about it?
<v Speaker 5>He just because he doesn't know what to fucking say.
<v Speaker 5>He's got right, It's like he he It's like he
<v Speaker 5>comes in there with an attitude and then he blanks,
<v Speaker 5>you know, and he realized that the it's like the
<v Speaker 5>attitude can't get you through it all, Like you need
<v Speaker 5>more this attitude. You need to have a fucking point.
<v Speaker 14>It's like I already said that. Uh, I already said that.
<v Speaker 14>You can almost hear him like run out of things.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly, And it's awful later.
<v Speaker 14>On in the show, and it wasn't I try to
<v Speaker 14>write home about But Shawn michaels him cell phones in
<v Speaker 14>probably slept in as well and screamed it said a
<v Speaker 14>little bit and said we'll rustling Federation one hundred times.
<v Speaker 14>And we go to the December thirtieth raw where Brett
<v Speaker 14>and Seawan are in a face off and they call Sewan,
<v Speaker 14>I believe, for the very first time on WF television,
<v Speaker 14>a degenerate. I think it's the first time really the
<v Speaker 14>word degeneratives used, yes, and then Brett attacks Austin during
<v Speaker 14>a tag match. Brett says, this is the show, the
<v Speaker 14>December thirtieth raw where Brett jumps on Sean for being
<v Speaker 14>in Playgirl, which was a key kind of point of
<v Speaker 14>friction between the two, something where you know, Brett of
<v Speaker 14>course claims he cleared it with Sean beforehand, but Seawn
<v Speaker 14>just took it in a way that wasn't expected. He says, Playgirl,
<v Speaker 14>I don't think any girls buy that magazine, you know,
<v Speaker 14>intimating whatever you will, and then he says, you've degraded
<v Speaker 14>the championship, which is a you know, it's a little
<v Speaker 14>close to home too, because, like I said, you can
<v Speaker 14>look at it as Brett saying that because Shawn's in Playgirl,
<v Speaker 14>and like doing immoral things. But you can also look
<v Speaker 14>at it as you've degraded the title in that it's
<v Speaker 14>not as right, it's not as prestigious as it was
<v Speaker 14>when I had it, and you know.
<v Speaker 5>It right and because you want it right.
<v Speaker 14>He's basically Brett comes right out and says, if you're
<v Speaker 14>not fourteen year old, fourteen years old and female, you
<v Speaker 14>were a step down essentially as champion, and h I
<v Speaker 14>kick your ass because I can, and Sean says, yeah.
<v Speaker 14>This is where Sean fires back, and I have a
<v Speaker 14>hard time believing that this one was arranged ahead of time.
<v Speaker 14>He says it with kind of like an annoyed tone.
<v Speaker 14>He says, I've seen you on the road, pal, and
<v Speaker 14>you're no role model. Wow, Sean bringing up you know,
<v Speaker 14>that's kind of like a preview of the Sunny Days
<v Speaker 14>comment in a lot of ways. Yeah, sure, So this
<v Speaker 14>is like the first to me claws out caddy kind
<v Speaker 14>of exchange between Sean and bretn on television. They'd had brawls,
<v Speaker 14>they had had cross words, but they always felt like
<v Speaker 14>they had more pomp and circumstance and blustered to them
<v Speaker 14>and sort of like promo over the topness whereas this
<v Speaker 14>one was kind of like, these guys are cutting into
<v Speaker 14>each other saying things that that it's not really business
<v Speaker 14>to to say those things about Sean.
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's it's not going to help.
<v Speaker 14>It might help sell the match, but it's not going
<v Speaker 14>to help, you know, Sean be perceived as as someone
<v Speaker 14>to be taken seriously as an n ring guy, and
<v Speaker 14>he's coming up on the Royal Rumble, and you've got
<v Speaker 14>Brett reminding people that gay guys look at playgirl. You know,
<v Speaker 14>I'm not sure this isn't actually a huge moment because
<v Speaker 14>these two. Yeah, but the point of this for our
<v Speaker 14>purposes this time is Sid comes out any screams you've
<v Speaker 14>played the game, I'm sure, He says, it's very simple
<v Speaker 14>at one point.
<v Speaker 5>That's another one. Yeah, simple, very simple. Yeah, it has
<v Speaker 5>to be real simple. It has to be Sid. I mean,
<v Speaker 5>they wouldn't they wouldn't hand you something complicated to say. Yeah, listen,
<v Speaker 5>you've proved that simplicity is the only way you can go.
<v Speaker 14>He says, I've beat you both. I need competition. And
<v Speaker 14>it's at this point December thirtieth, nineteen ninety six, this
<v Speaker 14>is the line in the sand. To me, the Undertaker's
<v Speaker 14>gong hits, and the Undertaker comes out, and they tease
<v Speaker 14>for the first time that Sid and Undertaker is a
<v Speaker 14>match you will want to see. Now, we've heard Bruce
<v Speaker 14>Pritchard say before that Sid Undertaker was always going to
<v Speaker 14>be at WrestleMania, but not necessarily for the championship, and
<v Speaker 14>that really tracks when you think about the kind of
<v Speaker 14>opponent they tended to match up Undertaker with at WrestleMania
<v Speaker 14>in that sure period. Sure, totally someone of his height
<v Speaker 14>and stature. It was Diesel, it was Jan Gonzalez, it
<v Speaker 14>was huge guys.
<v Speaker 5>And kund it was everybody.
<v Speaker 14>So I think we're within our rights to think of
<v Speaker 14>what we're seeing here is them setting up Sean winning
<v Speaker 14>the title back from Sid and wrestling Brett Hart at WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 14>and Sid facing Undertaker in a singles match, but knowing
<v Speaker 14>that a non title match, but knowing that it becomes
<v Speaker 14>Sid and Taker for the title. It's also easy to
<v Speaker 14>look at this raw and say, oh, they knew that
<v Speaker 14>that was going to be the WrestleMania thirteen main event
<v Speaker 14>months before, But I don't think that's what this was.
<v Speaker 14>I think this was them setting up a match for
<v Speaker 14>after Sid dropped the strap with no consideration of it
<v Speaker 14>being a match where Undertaker would win the belt, just
<v Speaker 14>because of the way it's presaged by the Brett Sean fight.
<v Speaker 14>That's clearly trying to set up and get you excited
<v Speaker 14>for Brett versus Sean on the other side, just fascinating
<v Speaker 14>stuff going on, all kinds of games. So Taker comes out,
<v Speaker 14>Vader attacks Hi, actually because Vader's going to wrestle Undertaker
<v Speaker 14>at Royal Rumble. Remember that, oh god, Vader pins Undertaker
<v Speaker 14>clean at the Royal Rumble, which is to me probably
<v Speaker 14>a make good for stepping aside in the fall and
<v Speaker 14>letting Sid take the center stage and the championship. And
<v Speaker 14>if you give a Vader Winter Undertaker, then it can
<v Speaker 14>come back and benefit him later. Of course, it never
<v Speaker 14>really did, No, it did not. It was a complete
<v Speaker 14>waste of waste of a match. But it is important
<v Speaker 14>to remember that the final rob nineteen ninety six has
<v Speaker 14>Sid and the Undertaker facing off and then Sean doing
<v Speaker 14>a big dive over the ropes to the floor onto Sid,
<v Speaker 14>and it's a big old brawl. We flip the calendar
<v Speaker 14>to nineteen eighty seven. On the January sixth, raw the
<v Speaker 14>first of ninety seven. As Sid makes his way to
<v Speaker 14>the ring. The signs and the crowd include one that
<v Speaker 14>says Sid enough said.
<v Speaker 5>If only that was the case, and no right, I
<v Speaker 5>mean it's funny on so many levels.
<v Speaker 21>On January the nineteenth, in San Antonio, Texas, there will
<v Speaker 21>be seventy thousand fans in attendance, cheering the hometown hero
<v Speaker 21>Sean Michaels, who will attempt to regain.
<v Speaker 3>The WWF title?
<v Speaker 5>Or are you that didn't sound positive in timid days?
<v Speaker 21>No about going into such hostile territory in San Antonio.
<v Speaker 11>See dear Ross, you haven't even got a clue because
<v Speaker 11>I intimidated by nothing.
<v Speaker 19>No man, then wolves, what we're standing in.
<v Speaker 16>Here right, here's what I consider the dying field.
<v Speaker 19>And inside this area.
<v Speaker 5>We'll be hidden hitting.
<v Speaker 19>The dick, We'll be dickings. I'm caso take.
<v Speaker 2>The camera.
<v Speaker 30>And hit someone before you were hit first.
<v Speaker 13>Told you wouldn't apologize me, man, good.
<v Speaker 16>Dying Seeing San Antonio Talamo Dome, everybody's gonna.
<v Speaker 3>Realize something dislike that scene that.
<v Speaker 2>Day I was born.
<v Speaker 3>I was born the man.
<v Speaker 16>See Sean Michaels, you, my friend, you can never have
<v Speaker 16>that clean I don't care, even if it's.
<v Speaker 7>In your hometown.
<v Speaker 16>So I'm gonna walk kidsto San Antonio. But the yards
<v Speaker 16>against me.
<v Speaker 2>I will walk in.
<v Speaker 7>The man.
<v Speaker 3>And I will walk out.
<v Speaker 38>Yes, Oh, look out the man. Oh I say this,
<v Speaker 38>does it, Susan? Because I am the master?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I am the ru the ruler. Blah blah
<v Speaker 5>blah blah blah. I get it. Well.
<v Speaker 8>That remained today saying I would suggest I remember said
<v Speaker 8>is not the underdog.
<v Speaker 4>John Michaels clearly is the hunderdog.
<v Speaker 2>Cannot learn about it.
<v Speaker 14>I somehow don't understand, don't remember or call boss when
<v Speaker 14>we were doing the Terry Funk Journey uh doing his
<v Speaker 14>interviews in succession and being like, oh god, here he
<v Speaker 14>goes again. I don't think a single time.
<v Speaker 5>It's like it really is. Know, it's impactful when he
<v Speaker 5>says it once in a while, but every time it's
<v Speaker 5>not good.
<v Speaker 14>Guys shouldn't even talk for like a month, you know,
<v Speaker 14>I know, you should only be brought to talk in
<v Speaker 14>an explosion of you know, intensity or something. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 14>I mean we're really seeing you know, his upper his
<v Speaker 14>upper limit, We're seeing his ceiling, and we forget this
<v Speaker 14>when when the guy passes away, and we, you know,
<v Speaker 14>think so fondly on the moments that he participated in
<v Speaker 14>that impacted us as fans when a week to week
<v Speaker 14>it was kind of a chore to watch him do
<v Speaker 14>his thing, even as WWF champion. So here there we
<v Speaker 14>are in nineteen ninety seven. Later, Sean comes to the
<v Speaker 14>commentary table and Sid says he wants to apologize for
<v Speaker 14>what he's going to do. He's someone apologize to you
<v Speaker 14>for attacking over Lithario. He wants to apologize for what
<v Speaker 14>he's going.
<v Speaker 17>To do to you.
<v Speaker 5>How aboudy apologizing to us for fucking awful promo? Oh
<v Speaker 5>he doesn't do that. Later on the show.
<v Speaker 14>I don't know if you remember this, Remember when Pete
<v Speaker 14>Lothario's son was backstage and said power bombed him on
<v Speaker 14>a table.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean Pete Lothario, Pete. I remember seeing
<v Speaker 5>clips of it. I didn't see it happen.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, they played it up on the Rumol Landy seven
<v Speaker 14>broadcast as well. But it's on this raw or Pete
<v Speaker 14>Lothario's backstage and his cowboy boots or whatever, and Sid
<v Speaker 14>grabs him by the throat. Just an innocent bystander, right,
<v Speaker 14>to further exacerbate the the cowardly attacks that he was
<v Speaker 14>making on Lothario to get it Sean heading into. But
<v Speaker 14>then we have an inspired promo and come to find
<v Speaker 14>out there is a different approach to this one. This
<v Speaker 14>is a promo that Sid cut in an empty Alamo
<v Speaker 14>Dome to be the site of his upcoming match with
<v Speaker 14>Sean Michaels, and Sid is kind of contemplating on what's
<v Speaker 14>going to happen in these hallowed halls?
<v Speaker 5>Uh in just a in just a little while.
<v Speaker 14>And the thing about this interview that's different is Sid
<v Speaker 14>has said and shoots that this is pretty much the
<v Speaker 14>only one that comes to his mind when they ask
<v Speaker 14>him the question about you know, is it better now
<v Speaker 14>that guys are handed scripts to read on promos than
<v Speaker 14>it was before when they weren't. And he does say
<v Speaker 14>that this promo right here was the only example that
<v Speaker 14>he remembers a Vince handing him basically a script handing him,
<v Speaker 14>you know, the structure of what to say.
<v Speaker 5>And he liked it.
<v Speaker 14>He said, I really thought it was thought out well.
<v Speaker 14>It was something that at the time was a perfect
<v Speaker 14>interview for the right time for that show, and it
<v Speaker 14>was leaning up to the big show that at the
<v Speaker 14>Alamo with Sean. I was in that empty arena and
<v Speaker 14>I pretty much did word for word with Vince. They
<v Speaker 14>were that good all the time. If they were that
<v Speaker 14>good all the time, he said, I'd sit back and
<v Speaker 14>let them do all those all the time.
<v Speaker 5>But they weren't. And he said he had the luxury
<v Speaker 5>because he kept a lot of the inner material himself.
<v Speaker 5>Of being prepared, he says, he is always going to
<v Speaker 5>be prepared with something you know exactly. But Vince would say,
<v Speaker 5>you know, this guy knows his interviews. I doubt he'd
<v Speaker 5>say that. But he says, they let me look at
<v Speaker 5>one and say do you like this or what do
<v Speaker 5>you think? You know?
<v Speaker 14>They would bring material by him, and Sid says, if
<v Speaker 14>I had one better than that, they'd let me do mine.
<v Speaker 14>But he thinks of this one right here is one
<v Speaker 14>of the better interviews he did. It was laid out perfect.
<v Speaker 14>So if they come up with things like that, I'd say,
<v Speaker 14>that's what I let them do. I think a lot
<v Speaker 14>of times myself will have something good to say too,
<v Speaker 14>and so I think I'll listen to him in that instance. Well,
<v Speaker 14>you'd be the judge.
<v Speaker 5>This is Sid.
<v Speaker 14>Holding court, so to speak, under different pretenses and auspices.
<v Speaker 14>Ahead of the Alamodim MATCHICT Royal Rumble with Shawn Michaels.
<v Speaker 28>See over one hundred years ago, a great German philosopher.
<v Speaker 28>He said, in the act of fighting monsters and the procedure,
<v Speaker 28>be sure that you don't become a monster yourself. But
<v Speaker 28>in the Alamodome, I will have to be the monster.
<v Speaker 26>To take what is mine, to walk out the World.
<v Speaker 7>Wrestling Federation champion.
<v Speaker 26>And I think Sean Michaels would say the same thing.
<v Speaker 28>The battle progresses, and at the right moment, I reach out,
<v Speaker 28>shine and I have you by your throat.
<v Speaker 4>The look did you look gift to me.
<v Speaker 27>Will be obvious for over here it ring inside or
<v Speaker 27>be your mother, And once you will know that look too,
<v Speaker 27>and then all the way over here will.
<v Speaker 7>Be whole saved. He will know that look too, but
<v Speaker 7>this time he won't get on the apron.
<v Speaker 5>Because he knows better.
<v Speaker 39>And if someone told me that this section over here
<v Speaker 39>was gonna be nothing but your friends from your hometown,
<v Speaker 39>Seehan Michaels, but they will see that look too. And Jose,
<v Speaker 39>you are going to summon all the Mexicans from Mexico.
<v Speaker 11>And all above there, all above here, they will be
<v Speaker 11>seventy thousand of them.
<v Speaker 3>And even at the highest seat of the roof.
<v Speaker 26>That look, and that look, this says at all, this
<v Speaker 26>says Sid, You're a man.
<v Speaker 7>You're the master.
<v Speaker 14>And that was one several days out from the rumble,
<v Speaker 14>and then the morning of the Rumble on Superstars, this aired.
<v Speaker 40>No doubt, ladies and gentlemen, he is the most intimidating,
<v Speaker 40>the most imposing WWF champion of all time. At six nine,
<v Speaker 40>three hundred and thirteen pounds, indeed, he is an intimidator.
<v Speaker 40>But Sid, you're probably the only man that I can
<v Speaker 40>think of within thirty days to beat the Shawn Michaels
<v Speaker 40>at the Survivor series and then Brett Hart on December
<v Speaker 40>the fifteenth. In your house, Shawn Michaels, I talk to
<v Speaker 40>him earlier. Seems to be under obviously a great deal
<v Speaker 40>of pressure. But one would think, because you're in his hometown,
<v Speaker 40>that you too, sir, are under a great deal of
<v Speaker 40>pressure as well.
<v Speaker 5>See, you're right, Jim Ross.
<v Speaker 3>Everyone would have to say that the crushers on me.
<v Speaker 3>I am in your hometown, Sahn Michaels, I.
<v Speaker 5>Am the man, and the man feels no pressure.
<v Speaker 3>Let's go back to earlier today.
<v Speaker 27>Now, let's go back to Monday night roll when I
<v Speaker 27>said at the Animal Doome that the people would see
<v Speaker 27>it in your eyes were earlier today, Shahine Michaels, that
<v Speaker 27>was there that same and then I heard the excuses.
<v Speaker 5>I have few, I don't feel good excuses.
<v Speaker 9>Try to walk.
<v Speaker 11>Let's see Sehn Michaels at the Royal Rumbo when you
<v Speaker 11>enter the ring with me, then I finally get my head.
<v Speaker 41>Yeah, seventy suries. They will see the same look that
<v Speaker 41>you show.
<v Speaker 19>They will see the same look for fear.
<v Speaker 26>That you cannot be the man. Yeah, for I am
<v Speaker 26>the man, I am the master, I am the ruler.
<v Speaker 14>H Later on the Free for All, he came out
<v Speaker 14>with the belt resting on his shoulder before the people
<v Speaker 14>who had already filed in, and again apologized for what
<v Speaker 14>he was about to do. To sit in Jose Lethario
<v Speaker 14>and it's time for that walk boss to walk in
<v Speaker 14>to a packed Alamodome as w w F champion.
<v Speaker 8>Sewn Michaels, Ladies and gentlemen applauding this capacity crowd.
<v Speaker 4>And there, ladies and gentlemen.
<v Speaker 8>There is the man if you would, there is the
<v Speaker 8>World Rustling Federation champion. You can hear this capacity crowd beginning.
<v Speaker 4>To view booreadder what they are viewing on this massive screen.
<v Speaker 8>Yes, this monster and someone say this great champion on
<v Speaker 8>his way to the square chuckle.
<v Speaker 4>He has indeed dominating the World Rustling.
<v Speaker 8>Federation as highest medal, defeating Sean Michael's defeating brown Hark.
<v Speaker 4>And that brings us to this Jr.
<v Speaker 14>This is Vince with one last flourishing what chifontimidating.
<v Speaker 21>More dominating peynacal champion.
<v Speaker 16>Ever s.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it has come down to death.
<v Speaker 8>Shacko said, has his fans as well, Harry, the all
<v Speaker 8>them all gone?
<v Speaker 6>Well?
<v Speaker 21>Fans them all out the United States over thirty states?
<v Speaker 3>Brief or patres are here?
<v Speaker 2>Sacha said, Yes, we'll have a scamandery a fans. I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure they will be very much.
<v Speaker 6>That's right.
<v Speaker 32>You know what, this is a brilliant move by sich
<v Speaker 32>Go Sin because I gotta tell you this, Sean Michael's
<v Speaker 32>ego is so big it needs its own sip coach.
<v Speaker 32>And when he sees even one from these over sixty
<v Speaker 32>thousand fans, Jerry.
<v Speaker 6>Fer said, that could blow his mind.
<v Speaker 2>You can see Sean Michael snap.
<v Speaker 4>I'll just keep this in mind said apologized and the
<v Speaker 4>free for All. He apologize for what he has to
<v Speaker 4>do tonight and the last time he apologize. Pete Lethario
<v Speaker 4>went through a table.
<v Speaker 8>Sid World Rustling Federation in Champion defeating Sean.
<v Speaker 13>Michael Fanam Square Garden.
<v Speaker 4>Half the survivors are and.
<v Speaker 2>I know where are they all at all?
<v Speaker 5>For Sean, it's just so disappointing kind of how, I
<v Speaker 5>don't know, like, you know, he really fizzled so fast
<v Speaker 5>as an interesting, badass bad guy. You're not feeling it there, No, no,
<v Speaker 5>I'm over it. Really interesting, like he it's interesting. It's
<v Speaker 5>kind of funny that his his promo work and his
<v Speaker 5>intensity were much more easy to get behind before he
<v Speaker 5>was champion. Yet when he becomes champion, he's uh, like
<v Speaker 5>he just suddenly becomes utterly worthless. True. I mean it's
<v Speaker 5>so you know, and I don't understand what about what
<v Speaker 5>it is that makes that change. It's like you're giving
<v Speaker 5>the belt, but why do you become different? Why do
<v Speaker 5>you become why does it become such a buffoon?
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it's it's interesting, you know, casting is important. Casting
<v Speaker 14>is a skill. Casting as an art. Yeah, and in wrestling,
<v Speaker 14>guys whore just casting in the correct role or they're
<v Speaker 14>not and you only realize when they're taken out of
<v Speaker 14>that role that, Okay, they're not multifaceted enough to play
<v Speaker 14>any role. They can't they can't adjust, they can't be like, Okay,
<v Speaker 14>this is what I used to say. But now that
<v Speaker 14>I'm the champion, what the fans, The way the fans
<v Speaker 14>are going to look at me is going to change,
<v Speaker 14>and so the way I express myself and relate to
<v Speaker 14>them has to change. In that I have to create
<v Speaker 14>interest in my opponent. He doesn't create an interest in
<v Speaker 14>his opponent. He just sort of says the same thing
<v Speaker 14>that he said. He's got to be the menace at
<v Speaker 14>the door. He knows how to do that, which is
<v Speaker 14>why I actually put a little bit of credence and
<v Speaker 14>care and asked joking about you know, when they were
<v Speaker 14>going to give him the Hogan spot in ninety one.
<v Speaker 14>He says, what you need is a big, vicious heel,
<v Speaker 14>because he knows that doesn't quite know what to do
<v Speaker 14>if he is the title holder, that that's not really
<v Speaker 14>how he put himself in a position and make more
<v Speaker 14>money than he ever expected in the wrestling business, earlier
<v Speaker 14>than he ever would have expected. He's going to keep
<v Speaker 14>doing this, and you know what you get with Sid.
<v Speaker 5>It's like Andre. If Andre had a title reign, you know, like,
<v Speaker 5>what the fuck is he going to say with the belt? Yeah? Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I mean I guess you know, with Andre, you kind
<v Speaker 5>of have somebody else speak for him.
<v Speaker 14>But because Sid never had a program where his challenger
<v Speaker 14>was nipping at his heels and creating doubt, or a
<v Speaker 14>challenger who was in his facing, I'm taking that belt
<v Speaker 14>off you beyond Sean, which we'd already seen. We'd already
<v Speaker 14>seen the dynamic between Sid and Sean, right, but Sid
<v Speaker 14>didn't have a kind of run where he was able
<v Speaker 14>to prove that, like, no, I can spark interest in
<v Speaker 14>a challenger for my belt, and I know how to
<v Speaker 14>adjust what I'm doing and how I'm reacting to make
<v Speaker 14>this other person feel like they're rising to my level
<v Speaker 14>and that I need to be worried about them and
<v Speaker 14>therefore elevate them in the process. There really wasn't that.
<v Speaker 14>He just came out, to your point, said the same
<v Speaker 14>things he used to say now going into Royal Rumble
<v Speaker 14>nineteen ninety seven, as someone who was rather mortified at
<v Speaker 14>the crowd reaction at Survivor's Series nineteen ninety six, do
<v Speaker 14>you remember feeling like this was justice was done and
<v Speaker 14>all was right with the world again when Shawn wins
<v Speaker 14>and you know, storybook fashion, you.
<v Speaker 5>Know, when Sean won the title back, it actually felt weird. Yes,
<v Speaker 5>it did. It actually felt like it was I could
<v Speaker 5>only the only equivalent championship run that I can think
<v Speaker 5>of right now is when Flair won the title back
<v Speaker 5>in ninety two, because both Flair and Sean had lost
<v Speaker 5>the titles in such big fashion, splashy. Yeah, it just
<v Speaker 5>didn't feel like I couldn't. It was like, there is
<v Speaker 5>I don't feel it. I don't feel like they're champion anymore,
<v Speaker 5>right right, All it really.
<v Speaker 14>Did was kind of cheap, and the feeling of the
<v Speaker 14>first title reign like I kind of felt stupid for
<v Speaker 14>being as over the top excited that Randy Savage pinned
<v Speaker 14>mc flair at WrestleMania when Flair just won the belt
<v Speaker 14>a few months back.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it just, yeah, I don't know, there was there
<v Speaker 5>was something about it. It just didn't I mean, I
<v Speaker 5>knew that Sean was going to win, you know, I
<v Speaker 5>mean it was such a foregone conclusion, but it just
<v Speaker 5>didn't feel real. Yeah, it felt like that whole those
<v Speaker 5>those few weeks that he held the belt again, it
<v Speaker 5>was just so like, Wow, Sean Michaels is champion again.
<v Speaker 5>It's so weird.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know what all what allegory
<v Speaker 14>to make what well, what the similar situation is. I
<v Speaker 14>don't know, it's it's an analogy is tough because it's
<v Speaker 14>like I'm trying to think of like in television, like
<v Speaker 14>you know, after a show Cross that jumps the shark.
<v Speaker 14>It's kind of hard not saying Sean jump the shark.
<v Speaker 14>But it's like, really, you just want us to go
<v Speaker 14>right back to feeling about Sean the way we felt
<v Speaker 14>before Survivor series.
<v Speaker 5>Right, and there was no you know, especially with Sean
<v Speaker 5>because he he'd been playing that that tweener character.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, we we had an ambivalent feeling for a month
<v Speaker 14>towards him in Bivlin feelings Brett hadn't turned fully heel
<v Speaker 14>and yet he's he's he's trying to beat the shit
<v Speaker 14>out of Brett Hart.
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, you know, it was a weird.
<v Speaker 14>There was a weird kind of like dissonance going on
<v Speaker 14>with him because he still had to be the hometown
<v Speaker 14>hero because the show was in San Antonio. If The
<v Speaker 14>Road Rumble ninety seven was in fucking Indianapolis, I'm sure
<v Speaker 14>we wouldn't have felt so weird about this title win
<v Speaker 14>for Shawn Michaels. But he was making adjustments he felt
<v Speaker 14>he had to make after Survivor series, all while heading
<v Speaker 14>into a show where he had to be the Shawn
<v Speaker 14>Michaels he was before those adjustments, and when he wins
<v Speaker 14>the belt, it is kind of like, okay, where are
<v Speaker 14>we going now? Like am I supposed to feel like
<v Speaker 14>Sid is never going to get him? Try to get
<v Speaker 14>the belt back?
<v Speaker 16>You know?
<v Speaker 5>Sid?
<v Speaker 14>Just now an afterthought? Yeah, the matter was okay. He
<v Speaker 14>was one of Sid's better ones, But again it falls
<v Speaker 14>into that category. Even if you can think of big
<v Speaker 14>studio stadium shows that Sid was on, it's like what
<v Speaker 14>came of it?
<v Speaker 5>You know what?
<v Speaker 15>What?
<v Speaker 14>What's the legacy? Do people look back on that show
<v Speaker 14>and say, my god, did Sid rise to that occasion? No,
<v Speaker 14>it was just like he was window dressing almost in.
<v Speaker 5>A weird way. Though it does make me wonder, like
<v Speaker 5>what the fucking I mean, granted they didn't know where
<v Speaker 5>they were going, you know, there was so much change
<v Speaker 5>going on, but part of me is like, I wish
<v Speaker 5>they'd just let it, you know, let let Sid just
<v Speaker 5>stay champion. I wonder what that have happened. I mean,
<v Speaker 5>there were have been a lot of stuff that would
<v Speaker 5>not have happened that were crucial right in regards to
<v Speaker 5>really the future of the company. You know, like you
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't have had the Brett Hart Sid moment that we're
<v Speaker 5>highlighting here, yea, And.
<v Speaker 14>It's it is it turned out to a great moment,
<v Speaker 14>but really what it is, it's like if you're going
<v Speaker 14>to pick a show that that that fits a SID
<v Speaker 14>tribute and you'd already done Survivors series ninety six, this
<v Speaker 14>is his other title, Wind makes sense right.
<v Speaker 5>Right, But what I mean, it's it's like it's just
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying though, is is it's like, it's it's
<v Speaker 5>just a you could I would have liked to have actually,
<v Speaker 5>you know, given how it all played out and given
<v Speaker 5>how weak it was that Shawn Michaels kind of wanted back.
<v Speaker 5>It makes me think when I would have liked to
<v Speaker 5>I wonder what it would have been like for Sid
<v Speaker 5>to go from Survivor Series to WrestleManias Champion, but so
<v Speaker 5>much would have been lost in that. I think we
<v Speaker 5>already got a little flavor of what would have happened.
<v Speaker 5>He would have just yeah, I mean, it would have sucked.
<v Speaker 5>It would have sucked. I don't think he would have
<v Speaker 5>gotten more exciting. I think, I mean, in a weird way,
<v Speaker 5>it's like, why the fuck did he you know, like
<v Speaker 5>why even give him the championship? Like why, I mean,
<v Speaker 5>I know that Sean Miami. I guess it's like it's
<v Speaker 5>a weird one of those things where you never really
<v Speaker 5>you know, Sean wasn't doing great and you need to
<v Speaker 5>get the belt off and to kind of, you know,
<v Speaker 5>let him be refreshed.
<v Speaker 14>But I think they really got the belt off him
<v Speaker 14>because they wanted him to win the belt in San Antonio,
<v Speaker 14>and it was like, yeah, whoever he crossed paths with
<v Speaker 14>the Survivor Series was probably going to take it off
<v Speaker 14>of him. That's what's always been my impression.
<v Speaker 5>It's just like, but why, Like it just seems I mean,
<v Speaker 5>I guess winning it back is a big deal, but
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it just seems weird.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah it didn't. They didn't account before in that
<v Speaker 14>planning that the person who beat Sean at Survivors Series
<v Speaker 14>he would end up capturing the narrative, you know, and
<v Speaker 14>being the talking point. It was a bigger deal that
<v Speaker 14>Sid won the belt than Sean lost the belt, and
<v Speaker 14>I don't think they count counted on that at all.
<v Speaker 5>It'd be like Hulk.
<v Speaker 14>Losing the belt to Warrior. Yeah, it was a big
<v Speaker 14>deal Warrior won the belt, but it was clearly a
<v Speaker 14>bigger deal that Hogan lost the belt, especially in retrospect.
<v Speaker 14>This was not the case for Survivor Series. So during
<v Speaker 14>the course of the match, in the Almo dumb Sean
<v Speaker 14>hits Sid with a camera, a television camera to get
<v Speaker 14>revenge on that front and hit some of the chin music,
<v Speaker 14>and you know, they do the whole thing. The kid
<v Speaker 14>came home and he won the WBF title with mom
<v Speaker 14>and dad in the front row, et cetera. The next
<v Speaker 14>night on Raw, Brett's out complaining again because remember he
<v Speaker 14>got screwed out of the Rumble match itself when Steve
<v Speaker 14>Boston was kind of hiding out and threw him out
<v Speaker 14>at the ends. So he's complaining about everything to Vince
<v Speaker 14>McMahon at ringside and Sean about how Sean being on
<v Speaker 14>commentary at its time when he had a title shot
<v Speaker 14>against Sid was a problem and getting a chance at
<v Speaker 14>the Brumble and he won, but then Stone cold screwed
<v Speaker 14>him and the people were with him, and then he quits,
<v Speaker 14>and he quits in Vince's face right here on Raw
<v Speaker 14>the night after Royal Rumble, and Vince's you know, he's
<v Speaker 14>out there as the company owner, not just the announcer man.
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was legit. Do you really remember this? Yeah, yep,
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was legit.
<v Speaker 16>I was.
<v Speaker 5>And again, you know, I was so paranoid at this point,
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, of WSW getting all these guys, and so
<v Speaker 5>was Vince. I was like, right right, and it just freaked.
<v Speaker 14>Me as paranoid because he knew you as a lifelong
<v Speaker 14>WWF fanly paranoid out there. And so he's looking nervous,
<v Speaker 14>and Vince is like, Brett, don't do this, like under
<v Speaker 14>his breath, as if like he's like shooting with the guy.
<v Speaker 14>And then Gorilla non Soon, who is still WWF president,
<v Speaker 14>makes the fatal four way man event for the February
<v Speaker 14>pay per view, and Brett returns, he doesn't quit. He
<v Speaker 14>comes back on that episode of Raw to attack Stone
<v Speaker 14>Cold Steve Austin to hand him a little taste of
<v Speaker 14>his own medicine blindside Attack, and then they this is
<v Speaker 14>where they announced that coming up on this special Thursday,
<v Speaker 14>Raw Thursday, it's going to be Shawn Michaels versus Sid
<v Speaker 14>the rubber match for the WWF Championship. And to hear
<v Speaker 14>Sid put it, as we heard in the shoot interview excerpt,
<v Speaker 14>he was to win the belt back on Thursday Raw
<v Speaker 14>Thursday from Seawn. And you have Sean saying you know what, Yes, Sid,
<v Speaker 14>he gave me a shot after I lost to you.
<v Speaker 14>It's only fair I give you a shot after I
<v Speaker 14>beat you. And then suddenly Undertaker speaks up and he
<v Speaker 14>starts saying it's time that that title goes to the
<v Speaker 14>dark side, and he says I will now be the Hunter.
<v Speaker 14>So I feel like the night after Royal Rumble, it's
<v Speaker 14>now clear what WrestleMania thirteen is going to be. Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>and this is even before Sean tweaks his knee. I
<v Speaker 14>think they shifted from Shawn Brett for the title, SID
<v Speaker 14>Undertaker non title to sid Taker title. Sean Brett non title.
<v Speaker 14>That's what it seems like to me, because Steve Austin
<v Speaker 14>is still not on track to wrestle Brett, even though
<v Speaker 14>they're still beating the shit out of each other, He's
<v Speaker 14>interacting with Bulldog in such a way that it becomes
<v Speaker 14>clear that that's going to be the match. So here
<v Speaker 14>is Sid's promo before that, faithful as it turned out.
<v Speaker 14>Thursday Raw, Thursday broadcast. This is on February third, nineteen
<v Speaker 14>ninety seven. And what's significant about this edition of Monday
<v Speaker 14>Night Roboss. It is the first two hour Raw.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, give me the laps fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling
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<v Speaker 14>So again, Sid is in the crosshairs of all these
<v Speaker 14>changes that they're making and all these adjustments that they're
<v Speaker 14>making to their presentation, trying to catch up to w CW.
<v Speaker 14>And here's what Sid said on that first two hour Raw.
<v Speaker 21>Psycho Sid, I'm gonna ask you a question about the
<v Speaker 21>WWF canda before we do it. All started the Survivor series.
<v Speaker 21>You walked into Madison Square Garden and you became.
<v Speaker 13>The World Wrestling Federation Champion. And then in less than
<v Speaker 13>thirty days you went to West.
<v Speaker 21>Palm Beach, Florida, and you beat a legend and breadth
<v Speaker 21>they hit man Heart, but it all ended for you
<v Speaker 21>at the Royal Rumble.
<v Speaker 4>Fate is a funny game.
<v Speaker 21>So what I want to ask you right now in
<v Speaker 21>your gut, in your gut, said, what do you feel?
<v Speaker 4>What do you really feel personally.
<v Speaker 21>About the WWF champion? Sean Michaels.
<v Speaker 3>See, I've heard Shot say it himself. The relationship then
<v Speaker 3>that I have, it's a weird one.
<v Speaker 4>They can roller.
<v Speaker 11>Coaster up and down listally, physically and emotionally.
<v Speaker 3>You can say it's a friendship.
<v Speaker 30>Baby on the edge of madness.
<v Speaker 3>We'll say that.
<v Speaker 11>I feel safe to say that. Even Shine Michaels will
<v Speaker 11>agree that evil is just that it is evil.
<v Speaker 3>That's sometimes we mistaken it for happiness.
<v Speaker 30>Maybe in my case.
<v Speaker 5>Evil showed up its survivor serious.
<v Speaker 39>In the your case, Shine Michaels, maybe evil showed up
<v Speaker 39>at the roll Rumble.
<v Speaker 3>But when this roller coast, the ride is overshone.
<v Speaker 16>When it is over, it has time up and that
<v Speaker 16>has come down and the rod comes to a halt.
<v Speaker 2>In the smoke.
<v Speaker 3>Clears, I won't be standing the man. I won't be
<v Speaker 3>standing a man.
<v Speaker 2>In the Master.
<v Speaker 4>In the rule. Oh my goodness on Royal.
<v Speaker 8>In twenty seconds, ladies and gentlemen, we will speak with
<v Speaker 8>the tag team champions Bullog again.
<v Speaker 14>Oh so that's the last promo he does before Thursday,
<v Speaker 14>Raw Thursday. And you would think that, you know, it's
<v Speaker 14>always a question to me, like when was it clear
<v Speaker 14>that this was off the rails? When was it clear
<v Speaker 14>that it wasn't to be Sean versus Sin on the show,
<v Speaker 14>and that Sean fact only wouldn't wrestle on Thursday, Raw Thursday,
<v Speaker 14>but relinquish the title well as of the Superstars in
<v Speaker 14>the morning of.
<v Speaker 5>And this is not live.
<v Speaker 14>This is in the can so you can't read too
<v Speaker 14>much into it. But they didn't take the time to
<v Speaker 14>edit it out, which says, I guess something in its
<v Speaker 14>own way. Shawn Michaels is on Superstars the week before Thursday,
<v Speaker 14>a Raw Thursday, and has this to say about Sid
<v Speaker 14>and Man. Everything just seems on the rails this.
<v Speaker 37>Thursday Live at Thursday Raw Thursday, you are gonna have
<v Speaker 37>an awesome challenge when you defend your World Wrestling Federation
<v Speaker 37>title against the man you wanted from Psycho Sid.
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know something, Psycho sid.
<v Speaker 16>Was man enough to give Seawn Michaels a rematch after
<v Speaker 16>Survivor Series.
<v Speaker 4>So Sid, I'm gonna.
<v Speaker 2>Turn around and do you the same favor you did.
<v Speaker 16>Me, because Sid, there are four other guys here in
<v Speaker 16>the World Wrestling Federation that are just aching to get
<v Speaker 16>a shot at this belt. The World Wrestling Federation Championship
<v Speaker 16>as of late, has brought out the Monster and all
<v Speaker 16>the superstars of the World Wrestling Federation were show and
<v Speaker 16>he's ever been. It's made Stone Cold, much colder than
<v Speaker 16>he ever thought he could have been. It's named Vader, Well,
<v Speaker 16>it's Nde Vader Vader and now the man from the
<v Speaker 16>Dark Side feels like he has gotten the shaft one
<v Speaker 16>too many times, and the Undertaker now wants a shot
<v Speaker 16>at the World Wrestling Fedation Championship. And then, of course
<v Speaker 16>there is a hit man, Brett Hart, who, even though
<v Speaker 16>he quits on lot of TV, complains online TV, makes
<v Speaker 16>excuses on TV, does not want to be referred to
<v Speaker 16>as any of those things.
<v Speaker 4>So I won't do it. But regardless of what Prett.
<v Speaker 16>Says he wants to be the World Wrestling Federation Champion
<v Speaker 16>more than anything. I said, the question is who will
<v Speaker 16>go to WrestleMania to defend that title.
<v Speaker 6>Will it be you or will it be me?
<v Speaker 3>And on Thursday, Rob.
<v Speaker 16>Thursday said, the entire world on WA thirteen is gonna
<v Speaker 16>find out who the man is in the World Wrestling
<v Speaker 16>Federation and who the man is that will go to WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 16>And I want sid, I want the fans to the
<v Speaker 16>World Wrestling Federation, and I want those four superstars, and
<v Speaker 16>I want the entire world to know that there's been
<v Speaker 16>one thing synonymous with WrestleMania and the ma I WrestleMania
<v Speaker 16>over the last.
<v Speaker 30>Few years, and it's called not So the year.
<v Speaker 16>Candidate Heartbreak Kid Sewn michaels So said Cresh just short
<v Speaker 16>on Thursday, Wrong Thursday, you will get another chance at
<v Speaker 16>the World Wrestling Federation Championship. Shawn Michael's the Heartbreak Kid
<v Speaker 16>will be until he deems differently the World Wrestling Federation Champion.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, until he deems differently. Indeed, I would love to
<v Speaker 14>know what the finish was originally supposed to be between
<v Speaker 14>Shawn and said on this show, sitting here realizing I
<v Speaker 14>don't know that. I know Sid was supposed to win
<v Speaker 14>it back, according to Sid, But how was Brett to
<v Speaker 14>interfere with Sean just going to go in there and
<v Speaker 14>lose it clean? I said, how doubt it?
<v Speaker 5>Sid was going to win it back anyway, That's what
<v Speaker 5>Sid said. It's very fucking It's very strange.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's almost like Sean agreed to it knowing it
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't ever ever get there. Yeah, it seems kind of bogus.
<v Speaker 14>But you know, all of that promo work they did,
<v Speaker 14>and the first thing you see when you tune into
<v Speaker 14>that Thursday Raw Thursday is Shawn is going to forfeit
<v Speaker 14>the belt. They make the announcement, It's like what and
<v Speaker 14>he comes out and he starts talking about, Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>What did you think when that happened? I was because
<v Speaker 5>like I didn't again, I didn't know.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, I was willing to believe that he had
<v Speaker 14>a knee injury, you know, I was willing to believe
<v Speaker 14>that just because he was so hard felt in the promo.
<v Speaker 14>It was like, yeah, this guy does not want to
<v Speaker 14>relinquish the belt right now. This is the worst possible
<v Speaker 14>time for an injury. Like this and that does happen,
<v Speaker 14>and he was limping like hell. It was only in
<v Speaker 14>retrospect that you had the cynicism because he never got surgery,
<v Speaker 14>although he's a serious surgery. And then when he comes back,
<v Speaker 14>like in June, he's backflipping all over the place. I
<v Speaker 14>remember remember that that raw where he wins tag titles
<v Speaker 14>with with Stone Cold. He comes back, has like a
<v Speaker 14>five star magic and Stone and he's like doing all
<v Speaker 14>these things to almost rub it in people's face that
<v Speaker 14>his knee was never really hurt.
<v Speaker 5>That was always my impression of it. Maybe, but it's
<v Speaker 5>just so weird, like I can imagine it's just a
<v Speaker 5>shocking thing that all of a sudden, Yeah, it seemed
<v Speaker 5>really sad. I bought into it for sure, because I
<v Speaker 5>just everything happen, like I said, everything happened to me,
<v Speaker 5>and such a such a a a it was such
<v Speaker 5>a big so much happened in so little time that
<v Speaker 5>I didn't really have a chance to process what it
<v Speaker 5>was like to experience that, like Sean Michael's just relinquishing
<v Speaker 5>the bell out of nowhere.
<v Speaker 14>It definitely it didn't I don't remember. And I was
<v Speaker 14>somewhat plugged into like online gossip about wrestling at that time,
<v Speaker 14>but it didn't really register with me as all, this
<v Speaker 14>guy doesn't want to drop the strap. It didn't because
<v Speaker 14>I didn't really have the context of knowing that they
<v Speaker 14>were going to go with Shawn and bretton the rematch
<v Speaker 14>at WrestleMania. It hadn't been made as apparent as I
<v Speaker 14>think people thought without reading the sheets, so it was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 14>this is this is a horrible turn of events. I
<v Speaker 14>don't even remember really going into that Thursday Raw Thursday
<v Speaker 14>having it really sunk in that he was going to
<v Speaker 14>defend the belt against sid on the show. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 14>remember even feeling like that was a key feature of it,
<v Speaker 14>but it was because they wanted to draw rating on
<v Speaker 14>an off night, and putting a title match of that
<v Speaker 14>caliber on there would probably be the best they could
<v Speaker 14>do to get that. And for sure he comes out,
<v Speaker 14>he starts talking about being told he can't wrestle again maybe,
<v Speaker 14>and they're chanting, we want sid in Lowell. They're jenning
<v Speaker 14>we want sid at the guy Jesus, And this is
<v Speaker 14>where a Grilla Monsoon announces that the final four winner
<v Speaker 14>at the pay per view will be ww champion. As
<v Speaker 14>a matter of fact, and what does this leave Sid?
<v Speaker 14>They ask, He'll get his chance Monday in Nashville, as
<v Speaker 14>they announced that Sid, in fact, we'll be wrestling the
<v Speaker 14>winner of the final four match for the championship on
<v Speaker 14>the February seventeenth raw. As for the third mass, absolutely so.
<v Speaker 14>Sean does the whole heartfelt speech, leaves the belt in
<v Speaker 14>the ring with Vince and says I'm going to go
<v Speaker 14>home now. And somewhere along the way, I lost my
<v Speaker 14>smile with the stubble and the tears and he looks
<v Speaker 14>like he hasn't slept and all that, and the main
<v Speaker 14>event of Thursday rought Thursday's mentioned with Stone Cold Steve
<v Speaker 14>Austin versus Sid, and Austin is rabid and they're chanting
<v Speaker 14>for Austin. You want some of the earliest kind of
<v Speaker 14>green shoots. Yeah, I'm sure the fans too are kind
<v Speaker 14>of like throwing up their hands like fuck, Like we
<v Speaker 14>were supposed to invest in Sean, We're supposed to invest
<v Speaker 14>in Sid. Look what's going on here? Austin's consistent. You know,
<v Speaker 14>Austin keeps showing up, kicking ass. Austin keeps showing up
<v Speaker 14>to an awesome shit on television. Well, we're with this guy.
<v Speaker 14>You know, if we don't know who to get behind,
<v Speaker 14>because shit is so impermanent, let's go with him. So
<v Speaker 14>he's out there, they're chanting for him, and Brett hits
<v Speaker 14>the ring and attacks Austin. And now it's very clear,
<v Speaker 14>I think, on the night where they have to grapple
<v Speaker 14>with the fact that Sean is going to relinquish the
<v Speaker 14>belt and not wrestle at WrestleMania at all, it seems
<v Speaker 14>like they immediately kick it into a higher gear between
<v Speaker 14>Brett and Steve Austin, and the decision is clearly now made,
<v Speaker 14>at least in my mind, that that's going to be
<v Speaker 14>a feature traction match at WrestleMania. Yeah, Breton Sid also
<v Speaker 14>tussle a bit because you got to keep the heat
<v Speaker 14>between those two because you know, the night after Final
<v Speaker 14>four it's going to be Breton Sid for the championship.
<v Speaker 14>So the Final four pay per view comes and we
<v Speaker 14>of course have done it in the archives. Is part
<v Speaker 14>of the nineteen ninety seven journey, and Sid was in
<v Speaker 14>fact on hand, even though he didn't wrestle on the show,
<v Speaker 14>but as telegraph there it's been told to the fans
<v Speaker 14>and everybody that Sid's going to face the winner. And
<v Speaker 14>here's some remarks Sid himself had to make at Final
<v Speaker 14>four in your house.
<v Speaker 42>Stee Boston, the undertaker of the man they call Vader,
<v Speaker 42>whoever wins, knows that tomorrow night they have to go
<v Speaker 42>right in and on Monday night, Raw face this man.
<v Speaker 42>He looks like he's ready to go right now, Psycho
<v Speaker 42>Sid a little bit more than twenty four hours away.
<v Speaker 4>That's not too much time.
<v Speaker 21>Time.
<v Speaker 3>Time is the one I did not want to air.
<v Speaker 3>See time way out for you, Seawn Michaels.
<v Speaker 11>And yes I am sad for you, but I did
<v Speaker 11>not get my SAIDs they get my belt back on
<v Speaker 11>Thursday nights.
<v Speaker 3>You see time, Sometimes it turns out to be funny.
<v Speaker 11>This time it's a regular old it's something different.
<v Speaker 30>So my time will come. Want to beginning?
<v Speaker 3>You ot a new time for Monday night.
<v Speaker 2>Row excuse me what.
<v Speaker 7>He'll be paid by the winner of the Final four?
<v Speaker 43>You have to make demand? Yeah, and then it is time.
<v Speaker 43>It is time to give me back what is mine?
<v Speaker 43>I am a master in the.
<v Speaker 5>New time he's referring to. Is they move Raw back? Yeah?
<v Speaker 5>I guess. But what the fuck man like he's he
<v Speaker 5>he just I don't.
<v Speaker 15>I.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he definitely sounds psycholo.
<v Speaker 14>That now, But when he comes to that line again,
<v Speaker 14>it's like, oh my god, he's that's all he's got.
<v Speaker 14>He's doing the Master and.
<v Speaker 5>He just doesn't know how to fucking say a cohesive sentence.
<v Speaker 16>That was.
<v Speaker 14>That was one of the worst ones, as it was
<v Speaker 14>clear that he got direction to try to draw attention
<v Speaker 14>to the fact that ra'z going to move to nine
<v Speaker 14>to eleven if he had to head for two hours
<v Speaker 14>with Nitro instead of seeding that ten to eleven to them.
<v Speaker 14>But so bizarre Brett Win's the fatal four way clotheslining
<v Speaker 14>Undertaker out or was it Austin I don't remember.
<v Speaker 5>Now it was Undertake here. Austin was out early. It
<v Speaker 5>did a match where he was the first. He was
<v Speaker 5>the first one out, first one out right.
<v Speaker 14>It was elimination style and over the top to the
<v Speaker 14>floor counted like a rumble for god knows what reason.
<v Speaker 5>Well, remember it wasn't just elimination style. It had a
<v Speaker 5>number of things.
<v Speaker 16>It was.
<v Speaker 5>It was you could either win by tossing somebody over
<v Speaker 5>the top or pin or make them submit, and nobody
<v Speaker 5>did the pinner submit. It was just over the top rope.
<v Speaker 5>It was such a weird like it was very reminiscent
<v Speaker 5>of those of the of the Rumbles of No Mercy. Yes,
<v Speaker 5>you know where you could have the different the winning
<v Speaker 5>you know, or elimination combinations, but they never did any
<v Speaker 5>of them except for over the top rope, Yeah, which
<v Speaker 5>I just don't understand.
<v Speaker 14>That's if they re ran the Royal Rumble almost with
<v Speaker 14>just four guys. And so, of course Brett wins the
<v Speaker 14>championship here on the show, and Sid comes out at
<v Speaker 14>the end to confront him, setting up Nashville the next
<v Speaker 14>night Live on Monday Night Raw, February seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven.
<v Speaker 14>That'll be the subject of our deep dive here next time.
<v Speaker 14>And with that on the horizon, we're just going to
<v Speaker 14>quickly tie it up with a bow. What happens after
<v Speaker 14>that Raw as regards Sid and what becomes of the
<v Speaker 14>WWF title reign that begins the second one. The night
<v Speaker 14>after Final four, they go out to Berlin. This is
<v Speaker 14>the last edition of Raw that's not called Raw is War,
<v Speaker 14>and they tape television out there, including the European Tournament
<v Speaker 14>final where Davey Burl wins the belt from Owen to
<v Speaker 14>become the first European champion, and also on that show
<v Speaker 14>in Berlin, Sid as champion versus Mankind. That's pretty much
<v Speaker 14>the only time I think Sid worked mcfoley on television
<v Speaker 14>as champion. You're right, and here's what he has to say.
<v Speaker 14>I'm pretty much like, I don't know. It kind of
<v Speaker 14>feels like the only Raw where he was championed again
<v Speaker 14>before losing it, Undertaker, it really wasn't. But here's what
<v Speaker 14>he has to say on that on that Berlin edition
<v Speaker 14>of Raw before Raw well becomes War.
<v Speaker 4>Any other surprises you think man Kind's going offer.
<v Speaker 11>Listen to me, Mankind, I can hear you lost up.
<v Speaker 19>All your German language.
<v Speaker 7>But what you should have done, you should have gotten
<v Speaker 7>ready for the game.
<v Speaker 3>Because the game we play is simple to manor.
<v Speaker 7>Playing.
<v Speaker 16>I am the master, and you have to find out
<v Speaker 16>the hard way, because then you come another symbol.
<v Speaker 26>Of one of my many victories to WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 7>Do you, Undertaker, to the dark side, to the drug side?
<v Speaker 7>I go, and you what would come? Another police side
<v Speaker 7>of my victories? Because I am a man, I am
<v Speaker 7>the master. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
<v Speaker 13>To take it vers of Psycho sit So many but man.
<v Speaker 5>God, last time we'd hear that raw music right there,
<v Speaker 5>that's trus track. That's true.
<v Speaker 14>And Vince Call, said one of the great WWF champions,
<v Speaker 14>on his walk to the ring to face mankind on
<v Speaker 14>this edition of Monday Night Raw. The next week, Raw
<v Speaker 14>is indeed War. They set up a new stage with
<v Speaker 14>a graded kind of rampway and a huge ass Titan Tron.
<v Speaker 14>They don't switch out the aprons though. The aprons are
<v Speaker 14>still that original blue with the white stencil WWF logo
<v Speaker 14>on it. Yeah, and they haven't transitioned yet to the
<v Speaker 14>Attitude Scratch logo. There's still the yellow kid friendly logo
<v Speaker 14>on the lower left. But the show is starting to
<v Speaker 14>look a little more intense. And yes, you remember the
<v Speaker 14>original Ra's War opening that they filmed with the explosions
<v Speaker 14>inside that fact, Oh.
<v Speaker 17>I love it.
<v Speaker 5>And they fucking they're fighting on the roof of Titan Towers.
<v Speaker 14>The roof of Titan Towers was the ninety five one,
<v Speaker 14>but I'm not sure this This was more like a factory.
<v Speaker 14>It kind of it pans down into like.
<v Speaker 5>They did both. Let don't have that one in two. No,
<v Speaker 5>I guess maybe you're a different one. But it's funny. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's all like it's all fucking metal, uh,
<v Speaker 5>you know, fucking steel cans exploding and shit and barrels, barrels.
<v Speaker 14>It's like the ones like les encampments would have fires
<v Speaker 14>in and stuff. Right right, you have these huge doors
<v Speaker 14>swing open, and Steve Austin is the choice for the
<v Speaker 14>guy to walk through those doors, and he's one. He's
<v Speaker 14>the one power walking as things explode and fire off.
<v Speaker 14>And there's like scenes of these stars being projected under
<v Speaker 14>the screen and barking dogs. And one of the things
<v Speaker 14>they did was put a bunch of guys in a
<v Speaker 14>ring with like fire everywhere and had them just brawl
<v Speaker 14>it out like this generic brawl happening, and Sid was
<v Speaker 14>in there with his leather vest, brawling with I think
<v Speaker 14>Brett Hart, and it was funny. For years after Sid
<v Speaker 14>left the WWF, he was still in that opening montage
<v Speaker 14>because he was part of that brawling scene. And tonight
<v Speaker 14>Ro's war on Peacock. Of course, the image of the
<v Speaker 14>show is bloody Steve Austin for Mestlemania thirteen, before that
<v Speaker 14>match had even happened in the chronology, So God bless
<v Speaker 14>those folks over there. But but you know, it's that's
<v Speaker 14>what Peacock's fault is. It is the fact that.
<v Speaker 5>You can't forget this. What was the original Raw is
<v Speaker 5>War theme song? It wasn't. It wasn't too many guns
<v Speaker 5>and not enough? What was it? I don't remember? What
<v Speaker 5>was Beautiful People by Marilyn Manson? Wasn't really remember that?
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I do, I do, I do vaguely.
<v Speaker 14>Music that they had to pay for. And while it
<v Speaker 14>probably felt like a smart investment to get this new
<v Speaker 14>concept of Raw off the ground, pretty soon they stopped
<v Speaker 14>paying for it and went to the Raw is War
<v Speaker 14>that we would know for years and years and years
<v Speaker 14>during the Attitude era. But the problem is would that
<v Speaker 14>I think with that change over in the music, they
<v Speaker 14>also had to swap out the opening montage for the
<v Speaker 14>one that they created after they stopped using the Marilyn
<v Speaker 14>Manson music. So you go to these Peacocks Archives episodes
<v Speaker 14>before Steve Austin ever bleeds against Brett WrestleMania, and you
<v Speaker 14>still see that freeze frame during the open of Raw
<v Speaker 14>because they swapped it out on those Archives episodes.
<v Speaker 5>That happen.
<v Speaker 14>Looking at and like I said, who kicks off the
<v Speaker 14>first ever raw is war sid said.
<v Speaker 21>Psycho said, I understand that you have had several meetings
<v Speaker 21>with ww OF officials and that you are somewhat reluctant
<v Speaker 21>to join Porza's tonight with the Undertaker.
<v Speaker 16>What's the story, Jim Ross, You and everybody included must
<v Speaker 16>think of something kind of fool something. I'm gonna tell
<v Speaker 16>you something, Undertaker.
<v Speaker 30>I know when pull bears around it was mankind of vader.
<v Speaker 30>I smell something.
<v Speaker 5>Yes you do, see, yes you do.
<v Speaker 2>You'd be right in man.
<v Speaker 30>So what I'm gonna do is this I've thought of
<v Speaker 30>that I am not gonna fall for your.
<v Speaker 16>Trap, Undertaker, because of WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 3>You will fall victim have.
<v Speaker 16>Become another symbol of one of my victories as the
<v Speaker 16>World Wrestling Fairly said champions.
<v Speaker 4>Like said, refusing to join forces. That's the Undertaker.
<v Speaker 16>What you need to do tonight, Undertaker, and maybe even
<v Speaker 16>for the rest of your career, is you stay in
<v Speaker 16>the cemetery where you belong, because after WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 30>That's where I will put you once and for good.
<v Speaker 2>What about you? Oh, we are.
<v Speaker 5>Thirteen days away, once and for good, for good? What
<v Speaker 5>the fuck is wrong with him? How does he just
<v Speaker 5>get so stupid. How does he get so stupid and
<v Speaker 5>yet be such a smart businessman? Apparently? Yeah.
<v Speaker 14>So later on the show, Taker and Sid do team up.
<v Speaker 14>They end up fighting each other and there's choke slams,
<v Speaker 14>and this is one of the first times you see
<v Speaker 14>take Er do that huge dive where he clears the
<v Speaker 14>top rope. He does that really because everyone comes out
<v Speaker 14>right shake it up, and then Sid ends up power
<v Speaker 14>bombing Undertaker. So the hype is on for that WrestleMania
<v Speaker 14>main event on the March seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven Raw.
<v Speaker 14>This is a historic one. This is Brett Hart versus
<v Speaker 14>Sid in the cage for the WWF title, and they
<v Speaker 14>go back and forth about whether the match will be
<v Speaker 14>for the title that night. Guerrilla Monsoon finally decides yes,
<v Speaker 14>it will be Bretdheart's new motto in the World Wresting Federation.
<v Speaker 14>He says, you scratch my back.
<v Speaker 5>Well, what's the second half? Seems like there's a new
<v Speaker 5>motto in the World Wrestling Federation. I'll screw yours. You
<v Speaker 5>scratch my back and I'll stab yours. I'll stab yours.
<v Speaker 14>Jesus Christ, remember remember Sean walking away with a small
<v Speaker 14>you know tears running down his face and limping.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 14>Two weeks later, he's back on Raw and he's not hobbling,
<v Speaker 14>he's not hobbling, and he's dressed like Don Johnson brought
<v Speaker 14>Miami Vice. I mean, what the fuck, guys, no wonder
<v Speaker 14>people said this. I mean two weeks later he's on Raw,
<v Speaker 14>prancing around and.
<v Speaker 5>Part of the mix.
<v Speaker 14>Part of the mix they're hype in WrestleMania, and he's
<v Speaker 14>standing there. He's in frame, So Shawn in play again.
<v Speaker 14>I'm sure they didn't even fucking know. But this is
<v Speaker 14>a famous one because they extend the window. Raw does
<v Speaker 14>an overrun like for the first time, and they do
<v Speaker 14>this usually controversial for the time angle after the matchup.
<v Speaker 14>But before we get there, one last promo as champion
<v Speaker 14>on Raw before he loses it to Undertaker at WrestleMania.
<v Speaker 5>Here is sid be Constructed.
<v Speaker 13>Psycho said, are you ready for Brett?
<v Speaker 4>They hit man Heart.
<v Speaker 11>Ready, miss big Back, go Stave Austin be Rediy, you
<v Speaker 11>asked out of my business?
<v Speaker 3>Did I know why you're here?
<v Speaker 30>And you would have to be a complete idiot to
<v Speaker 30>know what you're up to.
<v Speaker 11>But tonight I am going to take red Hawk and
<v Speaker 11>I'm going to power upon him.
<v Speaker 19>Right through the floor, and I will walk out the.
<v Speaker 3>World Wrestling Federation Champion.
<v Speaker 11>One reason why, because I am the man, and I
<v Speaker 11>am the Master, and I am the ruler of the world.
<v Speaker 14>So Sid hits the ring, takes a minute to admire
<v Speaker 14>that sparkling SID sign, which I feel like is such
<v Speaker 14>an underrated part of why he's so fondly remembered.
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I agree, I agree. That was huge because he
<v Speaker 5>you know, he actually uh, it's funny because the Warrior
<v Speaker 5>was doing that and then they gave it to said, Yeah.
<v Speaker 14>They probably just like took a few pieces off the
<v Speaker 14>Warrior's logo so it's spelled Sid instead.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's true. That's huge.
<v Speaker 14>That's such a great entrance here with that thing, and
<v Speaker 14>Undertaker and Steve Austin are trying to get their man
<v Speaker 14>the title so they can go forward at Mania. Remember
<v Speaker 14>that that was like the I do you know if
<v Speaker 14>I do remember that wins.
<v Speaker 5>It was was so weird because, you know, because because
<v Speaker 5>the way that the championship was so sloppily done, not
<v Speaker 5>not I don't mean like in the way that but
<v Speaker 5>the fact that it was. It was you know because
<v Speaker 5>back in the day you know, they the whole thing
<v Speaker 5>was whoever wins the Royal Rumble faces whoever's champion, it
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter, you know, you know, if if it's Brett Hart,
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter, if it's Undertake, it doesn't matter. The winner
<v Speaker 5>gets the title match. But because there was no winner
<v Speaker 5>of the rumble, you know, the whole rumble scenario was
<v Speaker 5>so just wasn't valid anymore. It was interesting because it
<v Speaker 5>actually made it, you know, it actually made that possible
<v Speaker 5>where you know, where one the championship would then get,
<v Speaker 5>you know, they would have their match be for the
<v Speaker 5>title at at WrestleMania. It was very interesting.
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, your match was your match before they knew who
<v Speaker 14>the champ was going to be, right right, as opposed
<v Speaker 14>to one guy's going to challenge no matter who comes
<v Speaker 14>in champion. And so you have Steve Austin ironically trying
<v Speaker 14>to help Brett win the cage match against Sid so
<v Speaker 14>he could get a title shot, and you have Undertaker
<v Speaker 14>trying to help Sid so he could get a title shot. Yeah,
<v Speaker 14>and a big spot where Brett super plexus Sid, which
<v Speaker 14>is always a spot that they would do when they
<v Speaker 14>work together to get the people up, and Sid goes
<v Speaker 14>for the ride, and he does it for the industry.
<v Speaker 14>I mean, I'm not here at enough.
<v Speaker 5>That's true. There you go, that's what he does to
<v Speaker 5>look past the.
<v Speaker 14>Fact that Sid knew that taking massive soup plays off
<v Speaker 14>the top rope equal to half a star in the
<v Speaker 14>sheets and led to him being just a tad more
<v Speaker 14>worthy of spotlight and a tad more worthy of our
<v Speaker 14>desire to see guys that are too big to be
<v Speaker 14>taking flip bumps take flip bumps.
<v Speaker 1>It's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that
<v Speaker 1>knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed fan.
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<v Speaker 1>and JP Soro.
<v Speaker 5>And so there it was. And then Brett tries, you know,
<v Speaker 5>you bump to take the bump, and you bump to
<v Speaker 5>bump right, and then sometimes you feed the bump.
<v Speaker 14>I don't think said would disagree with the single word
<v Speaker 14>you just said. And that's kind of the beauty of
<v Speaker 14>what we managed to achieve. Looking so closely at a career.
<v Speaker 5>Like this, sometimes sometimes you don't understand, and sometimes you
<v Speaker 5>have to bump. Sometimes you gotta bump to bump right,
<v Speaker 5>and on different times you know when you got a
<v Speaker 5>thing going on and you cut me people coming from
<v Speaker 5>you at all sides. Sometimes sometimes you gotta feed the
<v Speaker 5>bump and then bump to feed and things go different ways, up, down,
<v Speaker 5>all around. But time and time again, I've proven that's
<v Speaker 5>real simple, that it's real simple. A bump defines who
<v Speaker 5>you are as a bump master. I guess that's true. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>if you're a bump master. Yes, bumps do define you.
<v Speaker 5>That is true, And it's time to feed at the
<v Speaker 5>draft of glory and definition.
<v Speaker 14>What a troll job that would be if they convinced
<v Speaker 14>the local newspaper that wrote a feature little bit for
<v Speaker 14>Sid that his nickname in wrestling was the Master's that's Sid,
<v Speaker 14>who is known in the industry as the bump Master
<v Speaker 14>for his ability to take amazing follows from awkward angles.
<v Speaker 5>The Revolutionary bump Master.
<v Speaker 14>Sounds like a discarded nickname for PN news or something.
<v Speaker 14>The Revolutionary bump Master, as he was known.
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 14>So it plays out and Brett tries to get through
<v Speaker 14>the door of the cage and Undertaker slammed it in
<v Speaker 14>his face because he wants Sid to win, and as
<v Speaker 14>a result of doing that, Sid does win. So he
<v Speaker 14>retains the championship. The ring clears and Vince gets in
<v Speaker 14>the ring to do a postmatch interview with Brett Hart
<v Speaker 14>and he says, you know, Brett, you must be frustrated,
<v Speaker 14>and Brett goes frustrated. Frustrated is not the goddamn word
<v Speaker 14>for it. This is bullshit. First time ship had ever
<v Speaker 14>been said. I remember like watching this, like, oh my god,
<v Speaker 14>he just said that, like I was so heart in
<v Speaker 14>my throat when he did that, and then he shoved Vince,
<v Speaker 14>like whoa, he's actually attacking Vince, Like that's that's crossing
<v Speaker 14>a line we haven't seen cross before. And he says,
<v Speaker 14>if you don't like it, tough ship. And it's funny
<v Speaker 14>because Sid is uh having won the match, He's still
<v Speaker 14>up at the top of this new rampway and he's
<v Speaker 14>listening to everything Brett's saying, and Brett looks at him
<v Speaker 14>and he's telling him, you know, if you don't like it,
<v Speaker 14>I'm the champion. If you don't like it, that's tough
<v Speaker 14>ship to you. And Sid's pointing to Brett and if
<v Speaker 14>you listen to the camera picks up Sid saying something hilarious.
<v Speaker 4>Is it apologize takes a red.
<v Speaker 3>You are wrong belt.
<v Speaker 4>Apologized, takes a red.
<v Speaker 3>You are wrong belt.
<v Speaker 14>That hard lady, Sid, I don't know shit, ladies and gentlemen,
<v Speaker 14>witness said, when they let guys say shit un raw
<v Speaker 14>for the first time, first chance.
<v Speaker 5>He gets I don't know shit, cry baby, Sid, Sid
<v Speaker 5>wil it out.
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I can't fucking handle it.
<v Speaker 5>I can't.
<v Speaker 3>He's so I don't know shit.
<v Speaker 14>I never told would say I don't know shit, like
<v Speaker 14>you know, and like in the moment, it's you get
<v Speaker 14>why he said it, But like somehow no one else
<v Speaker 14>ends up doing that to themselves, you.
<v Speaker 5>Know, no one else ends up suddenly complete.
<v Speaker 14>And utter fool Sid, all right, and what's the one
<v Speaker 14>with Nash does We'll get there, But it's in w
<v Speaker 14>C in the run to come, and he says something like,
<v Speaker 14>you know, you don't have half I have half the
<v Speaker 14>brain that you do. And he would try to patch
<v Speaker 14>that up and act like he was told to say that,
<v Speaker 14>like that was he was giving a script to say that,
<v Speaker 14>to make him sound.
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, dude, like it's just bad. It's just bad.
<v Speaker 5>He's such like you know, for every for every like
<v Speaker 5>you know, moment of greatness, he's got like eighty of
<v Speaker 5>just it exactly. And that's what we're here to do,
<v Speaker 5>is to do the math, right. I don't know shit.
<v Speaker 5>I'm a fucking to add that. That's when he really
<v Speaker 5>dug his own grave.
<v Speaker 3>You know what I do, Bret Hort, I stick my
<v Speaker 3>head in the sand and I eat warm.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know shit, cry baby. I don't file taxes
<v Speaker 5>like I'm supposed to a hot income. I'm a tax dodger.
<v Speaker 5>It's like what, I don't know shit.
<v Speaker 36>I don't live here, he says Russ Upple, I got
<v Speaker 36>to be on us. I don't know shit on just
<v Speaker 36>no Fianna Sausages.
<v Speaker 14>And Austin and Taker are tussling as well to end
<v Speaker 14>this episode of raw and uh, it's amazing. And this
<v Speaker 14>is also where Brett Deck's hall offimer Pat Patterson, that
<v Speaker 14>dirty son of it in Vince almost says son of
<v Speaker 14>a bitch on commentary because Brett laid out Patterson, who,
<v Speaker 14>by the way, absolutely had to be the agent that
<v Speaker 14>was crying for Shawn Michaels after Sid beat Sean. There's
<v Speaker 14>nothing pat loved more than to cry at Shawn Michaels.
<v Speaker 14>Uh famously. Uh, you know he agented the Iron Man match,
<v Speaker 14>and I would cry. And afterwards, you know, with Pat cries,
<v Speaker 14>he does, he'd let you know he cried. You know,
<v Speaker 14>that's like his way of remembering something as being epic. Oh,
<v Speaker 14>if Pat cries, it's a big deal. And he loved
<v Speaker 14>Shawn and loved you know, coming up with stuff for
<v Speaker 14>Shawn's matches and all that, So that would be my guess. Anyway,
<v Speaker 14>Brett Deck's Pat Patterson as well. And now Brett's well
<v Speaker 14>on his way to being this uber heel that elevates
<v Speaker 14>the uber the baby faced Steve Austin, and we're off
<v Speaker 14>to the races in that regard. And while this is
<v Speaker 14>all going on here in this final rob before WRESTLMINGI thirteen,
<v Speaker 14>Shawn Michaels himself surefooted as ever, comes out and surveys
<v Speaker 14>all the chaos and Sid makes one last walkers Champion,
<v Speaker 14>Ladies and gentlemen at the WrestleMania thirteen in Chicago, where
<v Speaker 14>he is to defend the championship against the Undertaker.
<v Speaker 5>And here it is.
<v Speaker 8>Sean and Michael's and Sean Michael's did you have those
<v Speaker 8>ghost bumps all over your body?
<v Speaker 6>With us man coming in a ry?
<v Speaker 44>Oh yeah, I love yeah, are you ready to take
<v Speaker 44>a walk on the dark side?
<v Speaker 6>Guests to night.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna happen when Yonder Taker's got my man,
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming in. I'll tell you what. Then you're in
<v Speaker 2>this building right now, I'm mounting that. Boys and girls,
<v Speaker 2>you can feel it.
<v Speaker 6>Something is definitely gonna go down tonight.
<v Speaker 8>And something I already has its spiking up. Something going down.
<v Speaker 2>Here he comes, she.
<v Speaker 13>Said, ladies and gentlemen, And he is the man, and
<v Speaker 13>he stepped.
<v Speaker 6>To the ring, and he speak.
<v Speaker 4>And then think about Ken said, if.
<v Speaker 2>He has time upbraid and I'm the dark and I
<v Speaker 2>know what.
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes back you, okay, sometimes you.
<v Speaker 6>Gotta be smart enough to be a plaid like see,
<v Speaker 6>I'm afraid of the dark.
<v Speaker 32>You know what I'm afraid of, Sean Michaels. I'm afraid
<v Speaker 32>you're a big liar. Why don't you tell the truth.
<v Speaker 32>You're out here for one reason. You're out here to
<v Speaker 32>try to do something the fight.
<v Speaker 2>Don't sit Why don't you tell a night not to
<v Speaker 2>out a chance?
<v Speaker 6>Not a chance.
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to watch fine, here's a rustling fan.
<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm a gold year old boy against sitting.
<v Speaker 2>Here watching the sport that I love from the good scene.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in the front call.
<v Speaker 29>Theres I is said three sixty nine per team, the
<v Speaker 29>challenger six ten three twenty eight?
<v Speaker 13>What a nic will not be a technical master fee that's.
<v Speaker 5>Gonna be up come again?
<v Speaker 2>God mean who will follow his tenth?
<v Speaker 4>Of course?
<v Speaker 2>Will it be the five five?
<v Speaker 6>Or will it be the tenth?
<v Speaker 4>Don't tile Driver and Sean Michels.
<v Speaker 8>You've been in the ring with both of these individuals,
<v Speaker 8>and I would suggest that you know exactly what it's
<v Speaker 8>like if you want to receiving end of when them
<v Speaker 8>Psycho said power bombs is land matter?
<v Speaker 4>A duke got oh there it is?
<v Speaker 2>What he's the man? Is he enough?
<v Speaker 15>Man?
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you what a lot of this has
<v Speaker 2>to do with's momentum.
<v Speaker 6>Stud has had momentum. It's an India those square card. No,
<v Speaker 6>I don't think he's had flu then on but the
<v Speaker 6>other night, dr night.
<v Speaker 2>I just played to the awards. You can tell that's
<v Speaker 2>the other day. A walk up there to receive.
<v Speaker 4>The war deck for award.
<v Speaker 2>Its fun.
<v Speaker 6>He was changing, beam was changing I well of first
<v Speaker 6>time ever. I don't want to write for much.
<v Speaker 45>I would not want to be in the ring, But
<v Speaker 45>either one of these guys, you're talking a whole lot
<v Speaker 45>of bunk, a whole lot of mass.
<v Speaker 6>You ready to get that.
<v Speaker 8>It's all about respect, is it not, Sean Michaels, and
<v Speaker 8>I would suggest, and certainly you respect Boom in the
<v Speaker 8>Miduels in the ring as well as they respect each other.
<v Speaker 28>Certainly.
<v Speaker 44>Oh yeah, I mean there are a lot of guys
<v Speaker 44>you're in a well ustling federation that it would sit
<v Speaker 44>in my.
<v Speaker 6>Chair right now and take the cheap shots to post
<v Speaker 6>these guys.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna do it.
<v Speaker 45>I respect for Sid and I have my limited respect
<v Speaker 45>for the Undertaker. He's got ice water ring through his veins.
<v Speaker 45>You ain't gonna shake up the Undertaker, So you got
<v Speaker 45>to pay out some way to beat him, and it
<v Speaker 45>ain't ees.
<v Speaker 14>So it's wrestling Mania thirteen. Sid walks on to a big,
<v Speaker 14>big stage. I think we can say one last time
<v Speaker 14>in a lot of ways, well he sure got some people,
<v Speaker 14>I mean, events, WCW. It never quite felt like this
<v Speaker 14>again for Sid as he does the honors for the
<v Speaker 14>Undertaker and and you know, not before Brett comes out
<v Speaker 14>and gets involved like the bitch he is after.
<v Speaker 5>That, I know, I know seriously, like they just this
<v Speaker 5>is that. I mean, it's it's great to me. It
<v Speaker 5>was great because it solidified his heel status, but still
<v Speaker 5>is he is He is a bitch.
<v Speaker 14>He is a bitch for coming out after assaulting Steve
<v Speaker 14>Austin after the bell and passing him out in the
<v Speaker 14>sharpshooter and then taking the chair to his knee and
<v Speaker 14>all that. So he's full heel now flipping fans off
<v Speaker 14>on his way back up the aisleway, and then he
<v Speaker 14>comes out and tries to fuck with the WWF title match.
<v Speaker 14>So it happens, and Sid ends up getting basically hot
<v Speaker 14>shot across the top rope from the apron by an
<v Speaker 14>interfering Brett Hart and spins right around and to the
<v Speaker 14>end of his second and final WWF world title reign.
<v Speaker 8>The moment tivin dat w w F Champion is his drink.
<v Speaker 46>Maybe a love best going on in the arena, but
<v Speaker 46>that love is about to turn the rage. This man,
<v Speaker 46>the World Wrestling Federation Champion. Psycho Sid has defeated Sewn Michaels,
<v Speaker 46>he has defeated Brett Hard and tonight, Psycho Sid, this
<v Speaker 46>could be the most important night of your w WF career.
<v Speaker 46>As you meet the Undertaker letting go, You are right,
<v Speaker 46>my friend, WrestleMania is the biggest, the beat of the world.
<v Speaker 6>What's a year but.
<v Speaker 7>The night when darkness false?
<v Speaker 26>Every man, woman and child, Oh, he is scared except.
<v Speaker 2>For one person.
<v Speaker 47>Only one person is that scared of the darkness. And
<v Speaker 47>one person is not scared of the Undertaker. And that
<v Speaker 47>has me, my friend, the game.
<v Speaker 26>We plase, I am the master.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they already has.
<v Speaker 8>It's pigging up, something going down there. You come, lad
<v Speaker 8>and gentlemen, and he.
<v Speaker 6>Is the man who he sapt for the rag. We speak.
<v Speaker 2>And then they are hot.
<v Speaker 8>Like con said, if he has time up grade, I'm
<v Speaker 8>the dark and you know what, sometimes.
<v Speaker 6>I can work against ship. Sometimes you gotta be smart
<v Speaker 6>enough to be afraaid, Like, gee, I'm afraid of the dark.
<v Speaker 32>You know what I'm afraid of Sean Michael's I'm afraid
<v Speaker 32>you're a big liar. Why don't you tell them truth?
<v Speaker 32>You're out here for one reason. You're out here to
<v Speaker 32>try to do something that's not gonna sit.
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you tell him to about that?
<v Speaker 6>Not a chance, not a chance.
<v Speaker 2>I'm here the last five years a rustling man.
<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm a twelve year old boy against sitting.
<v Speaker 2>Here watching the sport.
<v Speaker 4>Then, oh boy, I'm a.
<v Speaker 5>Good seats again. All about Sean in a fun ron.
<v Speaker 29>Theres I'm a said the six y nine treatmer ms
<v Speaker 29>the calender six ten three twenty eight on this that
<v Speaker 29>will not be a tend'tal master th.
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be a slick or knocker. There's gonna be
<v Speaker 2>who will follow his tenth the pass.
<v Speaker 3>Want to be the high bab or will it be
<v Speaker 3>the tents.
<v Speaker 4>Don't til driver and Sean Michaels.
<v Speaker 8>You've been in the ring with both of these individuals,
<v Speaker 8>and I would suggest that you know exactly what it's
<v Speaker 8>like to be on the receiving end of when mside goes.
<v Speaker 4>It's power bombses l.
<v Speaker 8>Matter a dum got oh there it is what he's
<v Speaker 8>the man?
<v Speaker 2>Is he enough?
<v Speaker 36>Man?
<v Speaker 6>Wan tell you what this has to do with momentum.
<v Speaker 6>Sid has had momentum since he med me in those
<v Speaker 6>square garden, and I don't like he's had from then on.
<v Speaker 6>But the other night, dry night, I just.
<v Speaker 4>Play the awards.
<v Speaker 2>You can tell as the other make a walk up
<v Speaker 2>there to.
<v Speaker 6>Receive more des for award and Fucting was changing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm moments changing.
<v Speaker 6>I'm well the first time ever. I don't want to
<v Speaker 6>wait for much.
<v Speaker 2>I would not want to be in the ring with
<v Speaker 2>either one of these guys. You're talking a whole lot
<v Speaker 2>of folk, a whole lot of masks. You're ready to
<v Speaker 2>get that.
<v Speaker 8>It's all about in respect, is it not, Sean Michaels,
<v Speaker 8>and I would suggest it certainly. Respect individuals in the
<v Speaker 8>ring as well as they respect each other.
<v Speaker 2>Certainly. Oh yeah, I mean there are a lot of
<v Speaker 2>guys here in the Love Vessel Federation that.
<v Speaker 6>I would sit in my chair right now and take
<v Speaker 6>cheap shots in both these guys. I'm not gonna do it.
<v Speaker 45>I respect for Sin and I have no limited respect
<v Speaker 45>for the Undertaker. He's got ice water running through his veins.
<v Speaker 45>You ain't gonna shake up the Undertaker, So you gonna
<v Speaker 45>to fire.
<v Speaker 4>Out some way to beat him at it ain't he's
<v Speaker 4>here on in.
<v Speaker 19>It's a new set of rules.
<v Speaker 4>You're pretty showing me.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my, I can't remember last time Brett was anybody's friend.
<v Speaker 9>And you.
<v Speaker 5>You know, and I know Brett comes out before the matter.
<v Speaker 16>No, he said he's a compet dang that World Resident
<v Speaker 16>Federation shiff.
<v Speaker 4>You're suppel belongs.
<v Speaker 6>To me and you are fraud.
<v Speaker 4>Well it looks like.
<v Speaker 39>You know it.
<v Speaker 26>I know it.
<v Speaker 20>And every single person in this building, whether you're here,
<v Speaker 20>we're outside of TV man, you all know that I
<v Speaker 20>am the pestor is the pestor was and the pestor
<v Speaker 20>of a.
<v Speaker 30>Wilber said, I'll read that.
<v Speaker 4>And now you're getting beat up because you're big mouth.
<v Speaker 5>Oh prop hard power.
<v Speaker 13>After that submission match, let's not put him in a
<v Speaker 13>bad way.
<v Speaker 19>Do you take your side?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah's amazing Ron.
<v Speaker 4>Hart, who was technically a winner.
<v Speaker 8>You may say technically because Steve Austin never said he
<v Speaker 8>said he will.
<v Speaker 4>You never hear the words I quit, and we never
<v Speaker 4>ever did.
<v Speaker 11>Hold along time lady, because why did the din you
<v Speaker 11>hear ass We.
<v Speaker 33>May tell him.
<v Speaker 4>They chip out of watchings.
<v Speaker 44>Anything can happen, and it usually does. It's just the
<v Speaker 44>rest of us don't warning about it. Just he does,
<v Speaker 44>regardless of the undertaker is Hall. Steve toughslam f Tough
<v Speaker 44>slam SA.
<v Speaker 10>Said, what.
<v Speaker 2>Are you baby?
<v Speaker 4>There no no well cover I can man.
<v Speaker 6>Coming believe the.
<v Speaker 21>Water sat tech tou They got the right seer up
<v Speaker 21>if you can watch have a leave that.
<v Speaker 8>Set in the undertaker fuck man back up on their feet, repurt.
<v Speaker 8>So now I'm gonna take her off the ropes from
<v Speaker 8>the other side, under take.
<v Speaker 2>Her in there.
<v Speaker 21>Set, I'm going to the contact there say it saw
<v Speaker 21>im come, I'm gonna move by said, I'm undertake your
<v Speaker 21>way for the flying clothes on against Sid ducked.
<v Speaker 2>Out of the way.
<v Speaker 8>And a sea saw matchup for the World Rosstak Federation Championship.
<v Speaker 2>And here we are.
<v Speaker 35>Power power.
<v Speaker 5>Shure ho run your fam Come on, Pratt.
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't he ever had time?
<v Speaker 5>Rda tombstone?
<v Speaker 20>Tombstone, He's as time.
<v Speaker 14>And so the title reign that said is over, but
<v Speaker 14>our examination of his title reign has one leg to go.
<v Speaker 14>The next time, We're with you on t LS tribute
<v Speaker 14>to Sid we deep dive the February seventeenth, nineteen ninety
<v Speaker 14>seven edition of Monday Night Raw, where Sid captures the
<v Speaker 14>belt for the second time. We'll see you then, biting announcement.
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