Strange Forces in the Northwoods: A Wisconsin Mystery | The Portal by the Lake (Bigfoot Activity)

<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In tonight's episode, we dive
<v Speaker 1>into the mysterious outdoors of Hayward, Wisconsin with Paul, who
<v Speaker 1>recently moved to the area and quickly found himself face
<v Speaker 1>to face with some of the strangest experiences of his life,
<v Speaker 1>from translucent creatures darting through the woods, to silent bugs,
<v Speaker 1>phantom winds, and even a portal like black hole opening
<v Speaker 1>up in the forest. Paul's encounters raised questions about what
<v Speaker 1>truly lurks in the wilderness. Grab your gear, because this
<v Speaker 1>one is going to blur the line between the natural
<v Speaker 1>and the supernatural. I've had several guests on the show
<v Speaker 1>in the past from Hayward, Wisconsin, and they all seem
<v Speaker 1>to be sharing experiences of the supernatural. And there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of skeptics that live in the area that say
<v Speaker 1>these people don't know what they're talking about. But the
<v Speaker 1>simple answer is they have just never experienced anything in
<v Speaker 1>their life. And that's a common thing for many people
<v Speaker 1>out there in the United States to say about bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>activity or unexplained mysteries. If you enjoy listening to Sasquatch Theory,
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<v Speaker 1>sure to comment down below. If you have a bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>encounter you would like to share with me here on
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<v Speaker 1>me sometime. With all that being said, let's dive into
<v Speaker 1>Paul's supernatural encounters from the state of Wisconsin. All right, Paul,
<v Speaker 1>welcome Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well, Miguel. How are you?
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing really good. Thank you so much for asking, Paul,
<v Speaker 1>if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>where you're from, and your bigfoot experiences from the very beginning. Please.
<v Speaker 2>All right, So again, my name is Paul be turning
<v Speaker 2>sixty five here in a couple of weeks. I'm from
<v Speaker 2>Saint Paul, Minnesota, and my wife and I back in
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, decided to start experiencing some things. So we
<v Speaker 2>found this lovely place up by Hayward, Wisconsin, that's in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the Swamigan National Forest, and we dragged
<v Speaker 2>the camper up here and we parked it and we've
<v Speaker 2>been here ever since and absolutely love it. It is
<v Speaker 2>so quiet up here and stars at night unbelievable. You
<v Speaker 2>just can't get that in the cities. So my first experience,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, we got here in twenty nineteen. We
<v Speaker 2>purchased a bigger camper and brought it up in twenty
<v Speaker 2>twenty light fall. The next year, twenty twenty one, I
<v Speaker 2>came up here in the fall to close up the
<v Speaker 2>camper for the winter. And there's probably early to mid October,
<v Speaker 2>and I was getting ready to shut down for the night,
<v Speaker 2>and I stepped outside to have a smoke. I flipped
<v Speaker 2>on the awning lights and the awning was out, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's got that string of led lights, so
<v Speaker 2>you know how bright it gets underneath there when the
<v Speaker 2>awning's out. So I'm standing there. It's probably ten o'clock
<v Speaker 2>at night, so it's pitch black up here. And I
<v Speaker 2>stepped out, lit up the smoke, and I'm standing there
<v Speaker 2>underneath the awning, and all of a sudden, this thing
<v Speaker 2>flew underneath the awning, probably six feet from me. The
<v Speaker 2>yawning is when it's out, it is about eight to
<v Speaker 2>nine feet tall. So this thing came out of the
<v Speaker 2>woods underneath the yawning and just flashed by me. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm My first thought was, Oh, that's got to be
<v Speaker 2>an owl because there was no sound, but there were
<v Speaker 2>no wings either, And I turned and I started running
<v Speaker 2>out towards the road, which is only about ten fifteen feet,
<v Speaker 2>and I saw this thing flying down the little gravel
<v Speaker 2>road in the campground here, bobbing up and down, and
<v Speaker 2>it was probably moving, my guess, twenty five thirty miles
<v Speaker 2>an hour. And it got down by this light that's
<v Speaker 2>on the road, and I just turned and shot into
<v Speaker 2>the woods and I'm like, well, what the heck was that?
<v Speaker 2>It was about just a tad bigger than a football,
<v Speaker 2>and it was, for lack of a better term, it
<v Speaker 2>was translucent or opaque. It just totally blew me away.
<v Speaker 2>I just stood there and I'm like, what the heck
<v Speaker 2>was that? What the heck just flew by me? Like
<v Speaker 2>I said, there was no sound and it went into
<v Speaker 2>the woods, and I'm like, hmm okay. And then I
<v Speaker 2>talked to the owner of the resort and they've had
<v Speaker 2>some experiences up here as well, and he says in
<v Speaker 2>the spring and fall is when it gets really active.
<v Speaker 2>So the next spring, I came up here early in
<v Speaker 2>April to open up the camper again, and I was
<v Speaker 2>standing talking to the owner and it's one of those
<v Speaker 2>days where it's cloudy with a real low cloud deck,
<v Speaker 2>very windy, probably twenty five mile an hour winds. And
<v Speaker 2>we were standing there and where the boats are parked
<v Speaker 2>down at the dock. It was probably about, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>let's say, about two hundred yards away. So the wind
<v Speaker 2>is blowing like left to right, and I just happened
<v Speaker 2>to turn and glance and over the boats comes as cloud.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even describe how the size of it, but
<v Speaker 2>it was large enough to see it was headed the
<v Speaker 2>opposite direction at a much high rate of speed. Then
<v Speaker 2>the wind was blowing and just boom. I just caught
<v Speaker 2>a real quick glimpse of it. And I turned and
<v Speaker 2>I asked the owner. I said, did you just see that?
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, what did you see? So I said,
<v Speaker 2>I I'm like, I just saw this cloud moving from
<v Speaker 2>right to left. The wind is blowing left to right.
<v Speaker 2>He goes, yeah, I saw it, he says, every spring
<v Speaker 2>and fall. So then, uh, there's a couple just across
<v Speaker 2>the road from us. And when I say road, it's
<v Speaker 2>just this little gravel road. And so we got to
<v Speaker 2>know him and he wanted to try musky fishing. So
<v Speaker 2>took him out musky fishing, and this was in twenty
<v Speaker 2>twenty two. The lake is not very big. It's like
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty acres there. I think this place
<v Speaker 2>one other resort and then another cabin on it, and
<v Speaker 2>that's the only human activity on the shores, and it's
<v Speaker 2>very quiet, and so we went out muskie fishing. He
<v Speaker 2>ended up catching this really nice, like forty five inch musky,
<v Speaker 2>first one he ever caught, and I've never caught one
<v Speaker 2>that big out of this lake, but so he was
<v Speaker 2>pretty bumped about it and we released it. Then a
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks later, when we got back up here,
<v Speaker 2>this is in July now, we decided to go out fishing.
<v Speaker 2>And it was a Friday afternoon. It was probably about
<v Speaker 2>one o'clock in the afternoon, and we get out on
<v Speaker 2>the lake and it's just dead calm, just one of
<v Speaker 2>those days where the sun is high in the sky,
<v Speaker 2>not a liquor wind, no ripples on the water, And
<v Speaker 2>we get up on the north end of the lake
<v Speaker 2>and I made a comment to him that, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's a Friday afternoon in the middle of July, why
<v Speaker 2>are we the only boat out here? It just it
<v Speaker 2>confused me. And he's like, I don't know, and and
<v Speaker 2>just it just didn't sit right with me that we
<v Speaker 2>were the only people up there on that end of
<v Speaker 2>the lake, and so we were sitting there fishing, we
<v Speaker 2>were casting this weed bed, and all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>a little ripple comes on the water. It's coming from
<v Speaker 2>the south. I'm like, oh, okay, we at least we
<v Speaker 2>can get a little breeze now, maybe cool off a
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Well, that lasted for about thirty seconds and
<v Speaker 2>then it just stopped, went flat, calm again. Then probably
<v Speaker 2>about forty five seconds to a minute later, it came
<v Speaker 2>out out of the north, same thing, just a little
<v Speaker 2>ripple on the on the water blue for I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>minut and a half or so. Shut down. Then it
<v Speaker 2>came out of the east and I said that the
<v Speaker 2>guy that was with me. I said, do you notice
<v Speaker 2>the wind how it's changing directions? He goes, no, not really.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, And I thought that was very odd.
<v Speaker 2>I've fished all my life and I have never seen
<v Speaker 2>where the wind changes direction that quick. And it was
<v Speaker 2>just like maybe two miles an hour, just just enough
<v Speaker 2>to put a little ripple on the water. Well, after
<v Speaker 2>the wind laid down for the last time, all the
<v Speaker 2>bugs on the water disappeared. And we're sitting there fishing.
<v Speaker 2>And if you fish and you're sitting there fishing a
<v Speaker 2>spot and you just you know that it's there's nothing
<v Speaker 2>there that you have to make a move. I just
<v Speaker 2>overwhelmingly got this feeling that we need to move. There's
<v Speaker 2>just nothing here. It's just the word dead came across
<v Speaker 2>my head, and so okay, So we fired up the boat.
<v Speaker 2>We went over to the northeast corner where this creek
<v Speaker 2>runs in, and we were sitting there. The boat was
<v Speaker 2>parallel to the shore. We were about two hundred to
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty yards off the shore. Now, this
<v Speaker 2>lake is not very deep and it's very weedy, and
<v Speaker 2>we were sitting there and the other guy he was
<v Speaker 2>casting towards the shore, and I was casting out towards
<v Speaker 2>the lake, so I had my back to the shore. Now,
<v Speaker 2>if you are familiar with some of the terrain up
<v Speaker 2>around here, it's got a lot of trees, a lot
<v Speaker 2>of pine trees on the north end of the lake.
<v Speaker 2>And then it just like abruptly quits where there's the
<v Speaker 2>creek and it's got you know, tall grass and maybe
<v Speaker 2>some jack pines in there, but no trees whatsoever. And
<v Speaker 2>we were sitting there and all of a sudden I
<v Speaker 2>heard the wind, and the wind was it sounded like
<v Speaker 2>it was coming through the trees, and it was blown
<v Speaker 2>about thirty miles an hour. And I went, oh, there's
<v Speaker 2>our breeze. Maybe we can cool down a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>And I turn around and I look, and nothing is
<v Speaker 2>moving on the shore. Not the grass, not any leaves
<v Speaker 2>on the trees. The pine trees aren't bending with the wind.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, that's kind of odd. And I said
<v Speaker 2>to the guy, said, what the heck's going on? He says,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I said, why are none of the
<v Speaker 2>trees moving? And we could still hear this sound, and
<v Speaker 2>right then we're both looking at the shore now, and
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it sounds like somebody took a
<v Speaker 2>rock that's probably about two times the size of a basketball,
<v Speaker 2>or they took a bowling ball and threw it in
<v Speaker 2>the water, and it looked like it landed about, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, six feet from shore. But we were
<v Speaker 2>both looking. Nothing came out of the Nothing came off
<v Speaker 2>the shore or out of the brush, and when it
<v Speaker 2>hit you just heard the cabouche. And then you know
<v Speaker 2>how that stream of water shoots up when you throw
<v Speaker 2>something heavy in the water. That stream came up from
<v Speaker 2>the water. This disappeared. It didn't go back down. It
<v Speaker 2>just vanished. And We're looking at each other and looking
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what the heck was that? He goes,
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. And then down to the left
<v Speaker 2>of us, probably a good three hundred yards or so,
<v Speaker 2>is where there's more forest area. And I happened to
<v Speaker 2>glance to my left and I see this dark spot
<v Speaker 2>in the woods and the grass is just freshly laid down,
<v Speaker 2>all in one direction, right towards this dark spot. And
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say anything to the guy about this. I
<v Speaker 2>just kind of glanced. I'm like, oh, that's kind of odd.
<v Speaker 2>And then I turned back and we were fishing probably
<v Speaker 2>twenty yards from I call them pencil reads. They kind
<v Speaker 2>of looked like asparagus stalk. They're about the size of
<v Speaker 2>a pencil. Now, this read bed is probably a couple
<v Speaker 2>hundred feet in length or width. As you're looking at
<v Speaker 2>it from the lake, and all of a sudden, like
<v Speaker 2>thirty of those stalks they all bent down to the
<v Speaker 2>right and touched the water. The rest of them are standing.
<v Speaker 2>Just this one group laid down, touched the water, and
<v Speaker 2>stood right back up again. And I asked that guy,
<v Speaker 2>I said, did you see that? And he goes the reeds.
<v Speaker 2>I go yeah, he goes, yeah, I saw it. I go,
<v Speaker 2>what would do that? He says, I have no idea.
<v Speaker 2>Now this guy, he's ex military. He's got a really
<v Speaker 2>good head on his shoulders, so it's not some yahoo.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, what is going on? He says, I
<v Speaker 2>have no idea. We take the boat and we go
<v Speaker 2>up towards the shore where this where we thought something
<v Speaker 2>got thrown into the water. There's nothing there. It's just
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the lake. Now, you would think that
<v Speaker 2>if somebody threw something in there, it's gonna stir up
<v Speaker 2>all the silt. There's gonna be you know, it's gonna
<v Speaker 2>be muddy, dark area. Nope, clean, And there was no
<v Speaker 2>rocks on the bottom of the lake. So we backed
<v Speaker 2>the boat out and I go, you know, I think
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to call it a day, and he goes, yep,
<v Speaker 2>me too. So we're putting back in and the entire
<v Speaker 2>time it took us about twenty minutes, because it's a
<v Speaker 2>you can only go like ten miles an hour on
<v Speaker 2>this lake. The entire time that we're going back in,
<v Speaker 2>I just kept asking him what did we just see?
<v Speaker 2>He says, I have no idea. I'm like, help me
<v Speaker 2>understand this. I need to wrap my head around what
<v Speaker 2>just happened. He goes, I don't know. We get back in,
<v Speaker 2>get back up to the campers. I tell my wife,
<v Speaker 2>and he goes and tells his wife what have my
<v Speaker 2>wife said? I was just pale and like okay. So
<v Speaker 2>the next day he brings his wife back out on
<v Speaker 2>the lake to go show her where all this happened.
<v Speaker 2>And this is the freaky part. He comes back in.
<v Speaker 2>His wife broke down. She's like, just get me out
<v Speaker 2>of here. She's nope, get me out of here. I
<v Speaker 2>don't want I don't want to see this. He gets
<v Speaker 2>back and he comes over. He goes, hey, do you
<v Speaker 2>remember that hole in the woods from yesterday? I go yeah,
<v Speaker 2>He goes, it's not there today. I took the boat
<v Speaker 2>back out there and I'm like, nope, just solid woods.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, huh, what was that? So then that
<v Speaker 2>brings me to uh, October of twenty three up here
<v Speaker 2>again in the fall, closing the camper, sitting here watching football,
<v Speaker 2>and there's a bar on the property, but they close
<v Speaker 2>it at ten o'clock and so this is just a
<v Speaker 2>little bit after ten. I hear the scream and I'm like, huh.
<v Speaker 2>Usually don't hear that from the crowd that hangs out here,
<v Speaker 2>because it's more like the Senior Citizens Club, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And so I hear the scream, I'm like, and it
<v Speaker 2>was loud. I mean, it came through the camper like nothing.
<v Speaker 2>And then like five seconds later I heard it again.
<v Speaker 2>This time it sounded like it was coming up the road.
<v Speaker 2>Then it stopped. Five seconds later, I hear it again,
<v Speaker 2>but at a different area, and I'm like, well, whatever
<v Speaker 2>that is, that's going up the road and that's moving
<v Speaker 2>because it only took like ten fifteen seconds to get
<v Speaker 2>from the bar up by the campers. So I'm sitting
<v Speaker 2>there and I had six fishing rods sitting against the
<v Speaker 2>leaning against the camper, and all of a sudden, I
<v Speaker 2>hear the rods scrape across the camper. I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of odd. No wind, And as I'm sitting here,
<v Speaker 2>I muted the TV. I just had this overwhelming feeling
<v Speaker 2>that something was in the front of my camper with me.
<v Speaker 2>Didn't see anything moving or anything. And in the process
<v Speaker 2>of closing up for the winter, we have a little
<v Speaker 2>like one foot trash can in the bathroom that's got
<v Speaker 2>a little lever on it that you pressing. The spring
<v Speaker 2>loaded lid flies up. I had that sitting in the
<v Speaker 2>shower with the lid open. And then as I'm sitting
<v Speaker 2>here listening and like I said, I got this just
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming feeling that something or somebody was in the front
<v Speaker 2>of my camper with me, and that lid slammed shut,
<v Speaker 2>and I just said, okay, you can leave now, and
<v Speaker 2>then it was just dead quiet. So I got up
<v Speaker 2>and I went in the bathroom and that lid was closed,
<v Speaker 2>and I go out and I check my fishing rods.
<v Speaker 2>They're all standing up on the camper. So I have
<v Speaker 2>no idea what's going on up here?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is strange. And what do you think laid
<v Speaker 1>down the reeds or the grass when you guys are fishing,
<v Speaker 1>what do you think that was.
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, Miguel, I have no idea.
<v Speaker 2>I have never in my entire life been out on
<v Speaker 2>the water and seen something like that. We're just part
<v Speaker 2>of them. Laid down and my phone was sitting right there.
<v Speaker 2>And of course today I keep kicking myself that I
<v Speaker 2>should have just picked up my phone and filmed everything.
<v Speaker 2>But I was just enthralled by what was going on.
<v Speaker 2>It's totally unexplainable.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And we use our phones when we're bored,
<v Speaker 1>but when something serious is going on, that's the last
<v Speaker 1>thing we think about.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's kind of funny you say that,
<v Speaker 2>because mine was sitting in a bag on the bottom
<v Speaker 2>of the boat and I actually glanced down and looked
<v Speaker 2>at it, and I'm like, I should grab my phone,
<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to miss anything. And thank god
<v Speaker 2>that that guy was with me. Now about him later,
<v Speaker 2>that's summer. We weren't up here at the time, but
<v Speaker 2>him and his wife were. He said he got woken
<v Speaker 2>up at two thirty in the morning. He said rocks
<v Speaker 2>were coming through the woods and landing by his camper.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Now they they actually sold their camper and got out
<v Speaker 2>of here. No, he would he wouldn't talk about what
<v Speaker 2>happened out on the lake after that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an unexplained mystery. To me, it sounds like
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot activity because something the size of a bowling ball
<v Speaker 1>landed in the water. He was having rocks thrown at him.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people talk about these creatures being able
<v Speaker 1>to cloak like the predator, and that's kind of what
<v Speaker 1>I thought, Like something was right there watching you guys,
<v Speaker 1>and you observed the grass physically bend down, and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I've had experience is where it seems like something invisible
<v Speaker 1>is walking through the woods. It sounds like a lumberjack
<v Speaker 1>on two feet. And I'm not saying that's what this was,
<v Speaker 1>but there there is that aspect of bigfoot activity. But
<v Speaker 1>on another note, it could have been something else, maybe
<v Speaker 1>something paranormal or some other phenomenon taking place. What would
<v Speaker 1>you say?
<v Speaker 2>As I went I went down and I was talking
<v Speaker 2>to one of the owners about that, about what happened
<v Speaker 2>out there, and all she did was smile, and she goes,
<v Speaker 2>you just got a visit from one of the spirits
<v Speaker 2>out here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't want anymore.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe there's like giant human skeletons buried on the lake.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I just the thing that got me
<v Speaker 2>about about the quote hole in the woods is that
<v Speaker 2>I never said anything to him about it, but he
<v Speaker 2>saw it as well, and we never talked about it
<v Speaker 2>when this was going on, or when we were out
<v Speaker 2>in the boat. Just the next dage when he came
<v Speaker 2>in and said, hey, remember that hole in the woods,
<v Speaker 2>Like my head snapped around. I looked at him and
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, so you saw it too.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And when you say hole in the woods, did
<v Speaker 1>something big move through the brush or are you saying like
<v Speaker 1>a portal or what do you mean about it?
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to portal, Miguel. This thing was probably twenty
<v Speaker 2>feet in diameter, and it just what got me was
<v Speaker 2>that it was just pitch black going in, going into it,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, usually, you know, heavy woods and stuff,
<v Speaker 2>you'll see you know, the sun, you know, coming through,
<v Speaker 2>it'll it'll get through the leaves and the branches and stuff,
<v Speaker 2>and you'll see a little sun on the ground. And
<v Speaker 2>so this was complete black. And the way the grass
<v Speaker 2>was laid down, like I said, it looked like somebody
<v Speaker 2>just took a big thirty foot log and just dragged
<v Speaker 2>it with a tracker and just pulled that grass down.
<v Speaker 2>And it to me when I looked at it. I said,
<v Speaker 2>that's just freshly laid down. That did that just happened.
<v Speaker 2>That hasn't been that way for a couple of days.
<v Speaker 2>That just happened. But we never saw it. We never
<v Speaker 2>saw the grass move or anything.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting, And I've been waiting a long
<v Speaker 1>time for somebody to describe one of these portals. I've
<v Speaker 1>seen them. I've seen a portal before, but what came
<v Speaker 1>out of it was not a cryptid creature. It was
<v Speaker 1>a shadow person. And basically I've told this story a
<v Speaker 1>few times on the channel. But I was in Mexico
<v Speaker 1>at my family's house. They were gone for the day,
<v Speaker 1>and I went into the market and bought some spooky horror,
<v Speaker 1>some some scary movies basically, and I went back and
<v Speaker 1>I watched I was watching one of those extracism movies
<v Speaker 1>and it was freaky as hell. And by this point
<v Speaker 1>it was already dark outside. I was in the upstairs.
<v Speaker 1>It's a two story house. And when the priest is
<v Speaker 1>doing the exorcist on the on the woman, sorry, I
<v Speaker 1>was gett a call. When the priest was doing an
<v Speaker 1>exorcism on the woman, he was like talking Latin and
<v Speaker 1>she was like saying all kinds of evil things, and
<v Speaker 1>I was I was pretty scared at this point. It
<v Speaker 1>was just a scary movie, like holy you know, Moldy
<v Speaker 1>basically and that no, no, I didn't know what I
<v Speaker 1>was doing at the time. Well, when he was doing that,
<v Speaker 1>the power went out in the house. Just everything went
<v Speaker 1>pitch black, and I'm like, oh, man, yeah, this is scary.
<v Speaker 1>So I was feeling my way out of the house
<v Speaker 1>and I'm feeling my way out of the room, and
<v Speaker 1>then I'm in a hall and I got my hands
<v Speaker 1>on the wall to feel to feel my way out,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going down the stairs and I still have
<v Speaker 1>my hands on the wall because it's pitch black in
<v Speaker 1>that house. It's dark outside, and you know the houses
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico, they're all brick houses, so they're like pretty solid.
<v Speaker 1>You can't see anything in there. And as I make
<v Speaker 1>my way down the stairs, I go through a living room,
<v Speaker 1>through another hall and out the front door, and finally
<v Speaker 1>I can see because there's the dust of dawn light
<v Speaker 1>out there in the street lights. And this black cat
<v Speaker 1>runs in front of me and all his hairs are
<v Speaker 1>standing up and he's just like wow, like it freaked
<v Speaker 1>me out, so I jump back and I'm like, oh
<v Speaker 1>my god, it was just a cat. Well. I look
<v Speaker 1>quartering to my left and I see this black hole.
<v Speaker 1>It just looks like somebody took a bucket of paint
<v Speaker 1>and dumped it on the ground, and it was like
<v Speaker 1>dark black, like ink black. And I'm staring at that hole.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is that? And I'm slowly inching my
<v Speaker 1>way towards it. It's only a few feet away, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm staring at it, like what the heck is that?
<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, this being stands up out
<v Speaker 1>of this hole, and it's almost like a superhero that
<v Speaker 1>landed on planet Earth, like he's crouched down and he
<v Speaker 1>slowly stands up and he like confronts me, like we're
<v Speaker 1>standing face to face, and it's a shadow person. But
<v Speaker 1>this thing is like three D. It's not like smoke
<v Speaker 1>or see through, and it has the shape of like
<v Speaker 1>a mannequin and a mall, but it's like jet black,
<v Speaker 1>ink black, and it's like three D looking. And all
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, like the hairs on my arms on
<v Speaker 1>the back of my neck stand up and I freaking
<v Speaker 1>take off running like fight or flight kicked in and
<v Speaker 1>I was not going to fight, and I ran and
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty much the end of it. My family
<v Speaker 1>was across the street at my uncle's house. I told
<v Speaker 1>them they came running. I told them that somebody was
<v Speaker 1>breaking into the house. I didn't want to say there's
<v Speaker 1>a freaking demon over there or something, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to freak them out. I just said, somebody's
<v Speaker 1>probably trying to break into the house. Somebody was there,
<v Speaker 1>and they took off running and there was nothing there.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's what it was. It was like a
<v Speaker 1>black hole in the ground, like what you would see
<v Speaker 1>in space, but on the ground. It opened up like
<v Speaker 1>I've went back to that spot and looked at solid ground,
<v Speaker 1>like there's dirt there. It's like, how the hell would
<v Speaker 1>that happen? Is that similar to what you've seen? Like,
<v Speaker 1>was it like a black hole almost?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Like I said, it was just jet black and
<v Speaker 2>you could not see any trees or vegetation inside it.
<v Speaker 2>From from my vantage point there, it was just black. Wow,
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, no trees, nothing, just black.
<v Speaker 1>It makes me wonder if like the cryptid creatures use
<v Speaker 1>portals as well. I've heard a lot of people say that.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you hear the stories of tracks just disappearing
<v Speaker 1>in the snow through a field, or how these things
<v Speaker 1>can just evade people, or how you don't find any bones.
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of people don't question this stuff. They're like, no,
<v Speaker 1>they're flesh and blood. They are flesh and blood. But
<v Speaker 1>there there's got to be an answer to it. And
<v Speaker 1>it's scary. Actually, my friend Adam from the Half Inch
<v Speaker 1>French Crew, he heard me talk about my shadow person story,
<v Speaker 1>the same thing I just told you. He's like gonna goel.
<v Speaker 1>I heard the same story on the internet, except this
<v Speaker 1>these two kids saw it. And he said one of
<v Speaker 1>the kids like got pulled into the hole and he
<v Speaker 1>went missing for a long time, and I guess he reappeared,
<v Speaker 1>and the other kid that was with him said that
<v Speaker 1>he was never the same. It was like a different
<v Speaker 1>person when he came back. So that's scary. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>you hear about missing people, it's like, what's going on
<v Speaker 1>out there?
<v Speaker 2>You know. I don't know if this is a coincidence
<v Speaker 2>or not. But in twenty nineteen, I was battling some
<v Speaker 2>cancer and I was home recuperating, and somehow I got
<v Speaker 2>down the missing four one to one rabbit hole and
<v Speaker 2>I was just sitting there on the couch, just wide eyed,
<v Speaker 2>mouth open. I'm like, how can this happen? How can
<v Speaker 2>these people just disappear into thin air and not find
<v Speaker 2>a trace.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the stories are all over North America.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean obviously you've heard did played this
<v Speaker 2>and listen to him?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The one that hit me the hardest was the Hunted.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you watched that one. Yeah, that one, Yes, definitely,
<v Speaker 1>it touched my heart because you know, people lost their
<v Speaker 1>family members and it's their family talking about it, like
<v Speaker 1>they don't have any answers, like where else are they
<v Speaker 1>going to turn. I'm glad David decided to listen to
<v Speaker 1>them and you know, take them seriously, because it's like,
<v Speaker 1>once somebody goes missing, the search party goes out. It's
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the only answer you have is like we looked,
<v Speaker 1>we don't know where they're at, and there's no explanation,
<v Speaker 1>and that's gotta suck.
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I can't imagine the other thing that I
<v Speaker 2>wanted to add to about what happened hold on the Lake.
<v Speaker 2>Just before all this started, people have talked about this.
<v Speaker 2>I've heard many stories of where everything just goes quiet,
<v Speaker 2>and it did. Just before it started, the wind came
<v Speaker 2>through the trees. And then, like I said, there was
<v Speaker 2>no water bugs on the surface of the lake, no
<v Speaker 2>more birds in the woods chirping away, just dead quiet.
<v Speaker 2>And I I likened it too. You could have heard
<v Speaker 2>a gnat fart out there. It was so quiet.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And after and the thing that the other guy we
<v Speaker 2>discussed is that when when whatever hit the water or
<v Speaker 2>whatever came out of the water and that stream of
<v Speaker 2>water shot up and it disappeared.
<v Speaker 3>He's just like, did you see that? It just disappeared.
<v Speaker 3>It didn't come back down. Where did it go. I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I have I saw the same thing you did.
<v Speaker 3>I have no answer for you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That definitely is strange, and I'm glad you decided
<v Speaker 1>to call me to talk about this. It almost seems
<v Speaker 1>like our existence are I don't know what you'd call it,
<v Speaker 1>our dimension collided with another. And it almost reminds me
<v Speaker 1>of like when a bad storm's coming in, like a tornado,
<v Speaker 1>Like the barometric pressure changes and you can just hear,
<v Speaker 1>you can hear really good, like it feels different outside.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to explain it.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yeah, yeah, I totally understand it. You know, like
<v Speaker 2>I said, I've fished most of my life, and I've
<v Speaker 2>been out on water when really bad weather hits and
<v Speaker 2>when it's really good weather. And when you're out there,
<v Speaker 2>because you're sitting out there in a boat, alum, in
<v Speaker 2>a boat, you know, with fishing rods in your hand,
<v Speaker 2>obviously you're going to be aware of you know, lightning
<v Speaker 2>and thunderstorms coming in. And uh so that's that's why
<v Speaker 2>I pay attention. And you know, maybe that's why this
<v Speaker 2>other guy he didn't. He didn't really pay attention to
<v Speaker 2>the wind direction changes in such a short amount of time.
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, so there is some strange weather taking place
<v Speaker 1>before everything got quiet. Did you notice like missing time?
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear like a metal door slam? Anything strange
<v Speaker 1>that you can think of?
<v Speaker 2>No, none of that, you know, just like I said,
<v Speaker 2>just did it all just happened. And it took probably
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds from the time when that I heard the
<v Speaker 2>wind and snapped around to take a look. I think
<v Speaker 2>two of the things that got me the most was
<v Speaker 2>the sound of the wind and no branches moving. And
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're where you're located, you got plenty of trees.
<v Speaker 2>You know what the sound of the wind sounds like
<v Speaker 2>coming through the trees, and it was loud, and that's
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, that's got to be thirty forty mile
<v Speaker 2>an hour wind. But nothing was moving. And then push
<v Speaker 2>it all started. And then, like I said before, the
<v Speaker 2>reeds touching the water that was only like twenty yards
<v Speaker 2>from us if that, and we clearly saw them just
<v Speaker 2>and they just they didn't snap down. They just one
<v Speaker 2>two three four five hit the water one two three
<v Speaker 2>four five came back up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is strange. You have physical things taking place,
<v Speaker 1>but also it seems like something spiritual. Like the lady said,
<v Speaker 1>you experience the spirits, and yeah, that's scary.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't told this to too many people. What was
<v Speaker 2>running through my head when those reads bent down and
<v Speaker 2>came back up. I just had this vision of a
<v Speaker 2>giant musky swimming towards the boat, and I swear to god,
<v Speaker 2>I was going to see it come right by the boat.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm talking this thing was probably a foot foot
<v Speaker 2>wider better across the back. That's just the vision that
<v Speaker 2>I had. And you know, as we were coming back
<v Speaker 2>in and I was talking to this other guy, I'm
<v Speaker 2>like do you think it's the musky gods that are
<v Speaker 2>all all up in arms because you caught that big
<v Speaker 2>muskie a couple of weeks ago. He's like, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>He was a zero help to me, Miguel trying to
<v Speaker 2>understand what happened. I must have asked him a thousand times,
<v Speaker 2>what did we just see? What did we just see?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he still wonders about that still to this day,
<v Speaker 1>if he's still around.
<v Speaker 2>Well, my wife spoke to his wife. I think I
<v Speaker 2>told you that I had a conversation with somebody from
<v Speaker 2>MOUF about this, maybe last summer or summer before. But
<v Speaker 2>and I asked him. I called him and asked him.
<v Speaker 2>I said, do you want to have this conversation with
<v Speaker 2>this moufon group? He said, absolutely not. I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it anymore. Yeah, and that was it.
<v Speaker 2>And then, like I said, last year they sold their
<v Speaker 2>camper and got out of here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's creepy to think about. Maybe that's where the
<v Speaker 1>cryptid creatures are coming from, paranormal activity UFOs and maybe
<v Speaker 1>like the universe is like a giant maze and like
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what's going to walk out of one
<v Speaker 1>of these portals. Whether it's like a skin walker, just
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot, a dog man, I mean, a spirit, a
<v Speaker 1>shadow person, an alien. You just never know. And I
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're coming from different angles, they're not all
<v Speaker 1>coming from the same place. And I mean, I can
<v Speaker 1>only theorize it. I mean, I could be completely off,
<v Speaker 1>but there's got to be an answer to this strange
<v Speaker 1>phenomenon that's taking place.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'd love to hear what it is, because, like
<v Speaker 2>to this day, I still have no and I've told
<v Speaker 2>the story to a couple of people up here. And
<v Speaker 2>I was up here, well I don't know, about six
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, and having to go down to the to
<v Speaker 2>the bar to get some food and I was the
<v Speaker 2>only one in there. So the owner, the new owners,
<v Speaker 2>they're actually daughter and son in law of the previous owners.
<v Speaker 2>He goes, all right, he says, I got to hear it.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, you got to hear what? He says,
<v Speaker 2>I've heard it from different people. Tell me what happened
<v Speaker 2>to you out on that lake. So I told him,
<v Speaker 2>and he was just standing there staring at me like
<v Speaker 2>I just took his child from him. He goes, you
<v Speaker 2>gotta be kidding me, and I said no. I said,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to lie about this, and I'm not
<v Speaker 2>going to hide it either. I don't feel ashamed or embarrassed.
<v Speaker 2>And I think it was later that fall again is
<v Speaker 2>up here stepped out for smoke pitch black, and I
<v Speaker 2>see this light, for lack of a better term, an
<v Speaker 2>ORB and at first, Oh, I'm like, oh, shooting stars.
<v Speaker 2>So I just took like five steps and I'm out
<v Speaker 2>on the road and I'm watching this thing and it's
<v Speaker 2>just going down the road and I'm like, oh, shooting star. Cool.
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, that's just at the treetops. That's not
<v Speaker 2>a shooting star. I'm like, okay, time to go back in.
<v Speaker 1>What color was it?
<v Speaker 2>Whitish blue?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. I seen an ORB on the tree
<v Speaker 1>line one time and it was at the very top
<v Speaker 1>and I was just looking into the woods and I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what star that is? Like it's behind the
<v Speaker 1>trees at the very top, and it was bright. So
<v Speaker 1>I was staring at it for a few minutes and
<v Speaker 1>I started to walk away, and when I look back,
<v Speaker 1>this thing is moving out of the trees and into
<v Speaker 1>the sky and it goes all the way up into
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the sky and just floats off like
<v Speaker 1>into space. I'm like, what the hell that thing was
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there like in front of the trees. I
<v Speaker 1>thought it was like a planet or a big star.
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I'm telling I'm glad to hear that somebody
<v Speaker 2>else is seeing this stuff too, because I'm like, I
<v Speaker 2>was really starting to question my sanity. I'm like, I
<v Speaker 2>just and you can't make this stuff up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And I'm just aware of this phenomenon. So
<v Speaker 1>I'm always out there looking for bigfoot, and I'm staring
<v Speaker 1>at the stars and I'm listening to things that people
<v Speaker 1>normally wouldn't pick up on. And what I've noticed is
<v Speaker 1>some years, like certain things are like active, whether it's
<v Speaker 1>like UFOs or bigfoot activity, and other years it's like
<v Speaker 1>not things going on. So there's something strange to that.
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like it's all tight in because like
<v Speaker 1>the same areas that I've had bigfoot encounters in, I've
<v Speaker 1>also experienced UFOs and other strange phenomenon, but it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>all happen at the same time. Maybe it happens years later,
<v Speaker 1>but still it's like, that's no coincidence that this is
<v Speaker 1>happening here where I've seen sasquatch, but maybe it's not
<v Speaker 1>tight end. But at the same time, like if you
<v Speaker 1>were caught at a crime scene, you would be suspect,
<v Speaker 1>you'd be questioning. And I feel like when you tell
<v Speaker 1>somebody you've seen a UFO in the same area you've
<v Speaker 1>seen you've seen bigfoot, they're like, well, you're probably just
<v Speaker 1>seeing two strange, unknown things in the same area and
<v Speaker 1>they're not connected. I'm like, I don't know about that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you prove to me that they're not. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there's one more I want to tell you about. And
<v Speaker 2>I've got a picture that I can send to you
<v Speaker 2>as well. So there's where the campers are here. There's
<v Speaker 2>a little little like dog walking trail, you know, most
<v Speaker 2>people just take their dogs down this trail. It's just
<v Speaker 2>a little loop. And a couple of years ago I
<v Speaker 2>was walking walking my dog through there and come around
<v Speaker 2>this corner I see this tree laying over the trail,
<v Speaker 2>not a real big tree, probably I don't know, probably
<v Speaker 2>four or five inches in diameter, and I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of odd. I get up there and this
<v Speaker 2>tree is snapped and it's laying over the trail. Now,
<v Speaker 2>of course, this goes back to have you ever watched
<v Speaker 2>Less Stroud? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>I have.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this kind of goes back to some of
<v Speaker 2>his theories and others as well, that this is a
<v Speaker 2>sign from Bigfoot that hey, this is this is our property.
<v Speaker 2>You need to stay out of here. And I took
<v Speaker 2>a picture of it because this tree was the only
<v Speaker 2>one broken around several other trees, and I'm like, that
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't happen. And this was a fresh break. The
<v Speaker 2>owners had cleaned it out by the time I went
<v Speaker 2>back up there and took the picture, but I got
<v Speaker 2>the picture of where it was snapped. I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>I do not take the dog out there anymore. And
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, I've only been out on
<v Speaker 2>the lake twice since that little experience happened out there.
<v Speaker 2>I just I got a boat. It's sitting at my house,
<v Speaker 2>you know, one hundred and fifty miles away. I just
<v Speaker 2>don't have any desire to to go back out there.
<v Speaker 2>I just totally, like I said, I fished all. I
<v Speaker 2>have no desire to go back out on that lake.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't blame you. I mean, you experienced the
<v Speaker 1>strange unexplained activity that's taking place out there, and you
<v Speaker 1>almost you lose your taste for the outdoors. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you watched the Missing four one one, so you know
<v Speaker 1>the possibilities and what you experience wasn't normal, and you
<v Speaker 1>know it was real, and you also had someone else
<v Speaker 1>with you that confirmed it.
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, I just I just wish you would do
<v Speaker 2>it publicly, but unfortunately he's not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's understandable. And as far as the tree broken
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the trail, I've documented that a lot,
<v Speaker 1>especially on video and these things. They will block trails,
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I mean sounds like there's sasquatch activity taking
<v Speaker 1>place there and also other strange phenomenon that we don't
<v Speaker 1>have an answer to.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. There's a young couple that moved in moved to
<v Speaker 2>camp or in last year, just across the road from us,
<v Speaker 2>and I was talking to them last fall because he's
<v Speaker 2>got a couple of teenage sons that they that they
<v Speaker 2>go out there fishing all the time. And I told him,
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, one of these days, I'm gonna have
<v Speaker 2>to tell you what happened to me when I was
<v Speaker 2>out there. And so I got that opportunity and uh.
<v Speaker 2>His wife said, Oh, there are spirits all over the
<v Speaker 2>place up here. She's I can feel them. And she's
<v Speaker 2>one of those people that has got that I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>whatever extra chromosome or something that she she can feel
<v Speaker 2>all these spirits around here.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. And there's people that can definitely
<v Speaker 1>do the animals can certainly do it. And do you
<v Speaker 1>have a dog?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I do. And you know what that the when
<v Speaker 2>when this when this stuff happened in the in the
<v Speaker 2>camper where that trash can lid got shot everything. He's
<v Speaker 2>hard of hearing to begin with. He didn't move, He
<v Speaker 2>slept through the entire thing.
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, yeah, that's not the first time I've heard
<v Speaker 1>about that happening. There's a family that was being terrorized
<v Speaker 1>by sasquatch and I think these things were banging on
<v Speaker 1>the house. And they said, the whole time that was happening,
<v Speaker 1>all the crazy activity, the dogs were asleep. They never
<v Speaker 1>got up, which is kind of strange.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially with noises and stuff. I can give you
<v Speaker 2>another secondhand experience there is when we first started coming
<v Speaker 2>up here, there was a couple from South Carolina that
<v Speaker 2>would come up and spend the summers up here and
<v Speaker 2>his brother owns a house right across the highway from
<v Speaker 2>this place, and somehow we got on the subject at Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>He said, yeah, let me tell you what happened. He says,
<v Speaker 2>he's staying over at his brother's house. He says, about
<v Speaker 2>two o'clock in the morning, his brother was down in
<v Speaker 2>the basement sleeping, and he John was upstairs. It's kind
<v Speaker 2>of kind of an odd house where most of it's
<v Speaker 2>in the ground and there's just maybe one story above
<v Speaker 2>the above ground and the windows are like eight feet
<v Speaker 2>off the ground, okay, And he said, about two o'clock
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, he says, something was banging on the windows.
<v Speaker 2>He said it and it woke him up, and he
<v Speaker 2>thought it was his brother messing around. So he got
<v Speaker 2>up and he started walking downstairs. His brother's still sleeping
<v Speaker 2>in the basement. He said, there was definitely something banging
<v Speaker 2>on the windows at two o'clock in the morning. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I actually interviewed a lady earlier from Arkansas that
<v Speaker 1>was talking about the same thing with her neighbor, and
<v Speaker 1>she's seen the sasquatch on her property. So yeah, that's freaky.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like, like I said, there's unexplained phenomenon taking
<v Speaker 1>place there as far as cryptid creatures and other things
<v Speaker 1>that cannot be explained, And I don't know, it's just
<v Speaker 1>my theory. I feel like there's giant skeletons somewhere around
<v Speaker 1>there or sprinkled around there, and I've noticed the trend
<v Speaker 1>where the giant skeletons are found. That's where a lot
<v Speaker 1>of this activity is taking place now where the Native
<v Speaker 1>Americans like living there back in the day or Hayward.
<v Speaker 2>Yeap, yep, yep, yeah. Yeah, there's a there's a public
<v Speaker 2>access to this lake, but you have to take a
<v Speaker 2>gravel road probably bought a good mile and a half
<v Speaker 2>two miles to get to it, and it's nothing but
<v Speaker 2>forced on both sides of this road, right, So I
<v Speaker 2>think it's two summers of guys. Just figured i'd take
<v Speaker 2>the dog out there and go walk around and see
<v Speaker 2>what see what's what? So up from the oh, probably
<v Speaker 2>about I don't know, several hundred yards from the from
<v Speaker 2>the boat launchers a trail that goes into the woods,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, this looks kind of cool. So
<v Speaker 2>me and the dogs start going down there, and I
<v Speaker 2>just got this creepy feeling walking in there and it's like, man,
<v Speaker 2>yeah you could, you could go go missing, and the
<v Speaker 2>snap of a finger like that, and it just I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I just felt really creeped out and so
<v Speaker 2>I just turned around and got out of there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't blame you. And I've interviewed several people
<v Speaker 1>from Hayward or who were in Hayward that were on
<v Speaker 1>the Channel in the past, and I don't remember them
<v Speaker 1>mentioning a national forest. So Hayward is international forest area.
<v Speaker 2>Well it's uh, there's a it's called Swamiga National Forest.
<v Speaker 2>It's to the east of Hayward.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, that's very interesting. And there was locals in
<v Speaker 1>the comments saying I've lived here my entire life and
<v Speaker 1>I've never experienced anything. It's funny how non locals come
<v Speaker 1>here and experience this stuff, and they were just trying
<v Speaker 1>to write them off.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and that's you know, that's that's one of
<v Speaker 2>my questions. It's like, okay, so so you experience something.
<v Speaker 2>Are you chosen to experience something? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think some people are just prone to
<v Speaker 1>having these experiences, especially with the spiritual and I think
<v Speaker 1>they're attracted to certain people for some reason. Or I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe it's a gift, maybe certain people are chosen,
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's a curse. It's hard to say.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, depending on the day, it could go either way.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, But there were also a lot of locals
<v Speaker 1>who said, oh yeah, there's totally strange things happening in Hayward.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I remember one of your programs. Or I
<v Speaker 2>don't think it was that far from here. Either, it's
<v Speaker 2>gone on the I think it was like Sullivan Lake
<v Speaker 2>or the Tiger Cat flowadge. Somebody was talking about something
<v Speaker 2>back in the thirties or something, and somebody told somebody
<v Speaker 2>their experience, and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, there's plenty
<v Speaker 2>of that going along but going around, but nobody talks
<v Speaker 2>about it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big issue is a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people aren't talking about it all over North America. Like
<v Speaker 1>we hear a lot of encounter stories online, but I
<v Speaker 1>think there's probably only like fifteen percent of people actually
<v Speaker 1>opening up and talking about this stuff. A lot of
<v Speaker 1>people they don't want to ruin their reputation, they don't
<v Speaker 1>want people to think they're crazy. They don't want their
<v Speaker 1>workplace to find out about it. They don't want their
<v Speaker 1>wife or friends to find out about it, and that's
<v Speaker 1>just unfortunate. But that's just how it goes. A lot
<v Speaker 1>of people take it to their graves.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, just like the guy that that pecked everything
<v Speaker 2>up and left. And it was just it was funny
<v Speaker 2>because they'd never said anything. It's just and you know,
<v Speaker 2>we talked throughout the winter and everything, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>they lived on in southern Wisconsin, and we thought we
<v Speaker 2>were really good friends with them, and then all of
<v Speaker 2>a sudden they sent us a text and said, yep,
<v Speaker 2>we're selling the camp and leave it. And that was it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's a shame. I got family that lives
<v Speaker 1>in Round Lake, Wisconsin. I wonder if that's close to there.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, really yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I heard somebody say something about an encounter at round Lake,
<v Speaker 1>like somebody's seen a bigfoot and I was like, whoa,
<v Speaker 1>I've been there before. I know where that's at.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, just right outside of Hayward, right.
<v Speaker 1>I guess. So I haven't looked on a map, and
<v Speaker 1>I guess it is close. I used to drive up
<v Speaker 1>there with my family. I was just a kid and
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't driving, so I don't know the Highway or anything.
<v Speaker 1>I know, we went through like the outskirts of Chicago
<v Speaker 1>to get there.
<v Speaker 2>So okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's not far
<v Speaker 2>from here. Let me just put it that way. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean if people are having experiences in Oklahoma
<v Speaker 1>or Illinois, why in Wisconsin. Yeah, exactly, yep.
<v Speaker 2>And I know, probably about three years ago, one of
<v Speaker 2>our first years up here, you know, life and I
<v Speaker 2>decided to take a drive on some of these old
<v Speaker 2>forest roads and dirt roads up here and just see
<v Speaker 2>where they go. And it's just like, you know, it's
<v Speaker 2>kind of creepy how thick the woods are, and you
<v Speaker 2>could walk fifty feet off the road and you wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>even know there was a road there that you just
<v Speaker 2>came off of.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty remote up there. And what I find
<v Speaker 1>fascinating is like out here in the O's people talk
<v Speaker 1>about the legends of Bigfoot the Hairy Man, and then
<v Speaker 1>when I go up north, people are like talking about
<v Speaker 1>little people. It's like a big thing, like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the little people. Do you guys ever hear anything about
<v Speaker 1>that in Wisconsin?
<v Speaker 2>I have, I personally have not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a big thing like in Minnesota and the
<v Speaker 1>up of Michigan and in Canada and Alaska, like a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are talking about. I'm like, it's like
<v Speaker 1>common knowledge up there. It's like what little people.
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, another rabbit hole to jump down?
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. I just wanted to ask you
<v Speaker 1>never know. Nope, Well they say they're tricksters, and I
<v Speaker 1>feel like the sasquatch are the same, like they they'll
<v Speaker 1>trick you. And I feel like a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>activity that you were describing like there was like some
<v Speaker 1>type of trickster there, whether it was like something like
<v Speaker 1>a paranormal spirit, a sasquatch in the area, or I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, something messing with you. That's what it sounds like.
<v Speaker 2>I tell you what. It's last summer, Me and the
<v Speaker 2>dog were up here, and he likes to lay in
<v Speaker 2>the back of my truck. So I'd get him up
<v Speaker 2>in the back of my truck and put his bed
<v Speaker 2>back there, and he just loves to spend the entire
<v Speaker 2>day outside and just lounging in the back of the truck.
<v Speaker 2>So I had him hooked to a steel cable that's
<v Speaker 2>wrapped in plastic and it's got those spring loaded latches
<v Speaker 2>on each end, and he was hooked up to his collar.
<v Speaker 2>The other end was hooked around camper steps. And I'm
<v Speaker 2>in the camper doing something and I hear his that
<v Speaker 2>leash or that tie out hit the ground right outside
<v Speaker 2>the camperor door, and I'm like, Okay, well, maybe he
<v Speaker 2>just jumped out of the truck or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>I poke my head out the door and there's a
<v Speaker 2>cable laying down at the bottom of the steps, and
<v Speaker 2>the dog's still in the truck, and I'm like, I know,
<v Speaker 2>I heard that cable hit the ground. Why isn't it
<v Speaker 2>attached to the dog anymore?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is strange. And I hear it all the
<v Speaker 1>time with people, like in their home, they're like, my
<v Speaker 1>keys just went missing and they were on the counter.
<v Speaker 1>I looked everywhere I look for two hours, and when
<v Speaker 1>I look back on the counter there they were.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's strange. I mean, you hear the Native
<v Speaker 1>Americans talk about shape shifters, and you hear Christians talk
<v Speaker 1>about demons and deceiving spirits, and the Natives talk about,
<v Speaker 1>you know, these things being tricksters, and yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 1>it kind of mirrors the whole deceiving spirit thing, Like
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing, just in a different fashion.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's got to be an explanation to
<v Speaker 1>it all, a scientific explanation, but I'm sure there.
<v Speaker 2>Is, Yeah, but nobody's got it yet. That's and that's
<v Speaker 2>that's what gets me, is that I just I would
<v Speaker 2>like an explanation of what happened. Yeah, somebody tell me
<v Speaker 2>what happened.
<v Speaker 1>Please, absolutely. I mean I feel like other dimensions is
<v Speaker 1>an explanation, a portal opening up, and I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you got to experience what a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people talk about, especially like in Alaska with missing
<v Speaker 1>people and strange phenomenon taking place, like you watched it unfold.
<v Speaker 1>You may have not seen the beings that came out,
<v Speaker 1>whether it was cryptids or spirits, but you saw the
<v Speaker 1>physical altered right before your eyes.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Yeah, that's uh, hopefully something that will never see again.
<v Speaker 2>I'm good not seeing it anymore. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like more things will happen throughout your life
<v Speaker 1>and you just have to be ready for it and
<v Speaker 1>know that there are things out there that we cannot explain.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. Well, Miguel, those those are my experiences.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate you for sharing those with me, and
<v Speaker 1>I definitely believe you one, and I appreciate you for
<v Speaker 1>being open about it and not worrying about what other
<v Speaker 1>people think. And I am sorry that you went through
<v Speaker 1>the cancer that you did, and it sounds like you
<v Speaker 1>beat it. My brother recently got diagnosed with it, so
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely a horrible thing, and I'm glad that you
<v Speaker 1>were able to to pull your way through.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's that was not a fun trip,
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure it was a devastating time in your
<v Speaker 1>life for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could think of way better things to do. Deal,
<v Speaker 2>but knock on Wooded isn't coming back, so we're good
<v Speaker 2>to go.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, We'll pray doesn't come back and just enjoy your life.
<v Speaker 1>And I would get out there and go fishing. Man,
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't worry about it. And if it starts to
<v Speaker 1>happen again or you notice anything strange, I would get
<v Speaker 1>out of there.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm grabbing my phone. If something else happens again,
<v Speaker 2>I'm grabbing my phone because that way, if somebody doesn't
<v Speaker 2>believe me, I'm like, okay, watch this now, you tell
<v Speaker 2>me what happened.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, and you'll be surprised who will open
<v Speaker 1>up about this activity when you talk about it openly,
<v Speaker 1>especially with locals. So just see, kind of poke around
<v Speaker 1>and see if there's other people that have experienced the
<v Speaker 1>same thing. I know you have been, so you know,
<v Speaker 1>keep at it. You're doing a good thing.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. And Prayer's your brother.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. That really means a lot. All right, Paul, Well,
<v Speaker 1>you enjoy your time camping out there, and if you
<v Speaker 1>experience anything else in the future, definitely reach out to me.
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to hear what else happens, or if you
<v Speaker 1>run into somebody else who has an extraordinary story, let
<v Speaker 1>me know.
<v Speaker 2>I will definitely, And thank you very much Miguel for
<v Speaker 2>let me share this story, and mostly for my neighbor
<v Speaker 2>sending me the link to your YouTube so we can
<v Speaker 2>so we could talk. It's it feels better talking about it.
<v Speaker 2>At least she can explain to somebody that would understand
<v Speaker 2>what happened or understand that it's not a normal experience.
<v Speaker 2>You know, when I tell it to my wife, she
<v Speaker 2>knew something happened because when we came back I was
<v Speaker 2>just pale. But she doesn't quite grasp I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what is it the totality or exactly how it affects you. Oh,
<v Speaker 2>she's a I've been a Bigfoot believer for a long
<v Speaker 2>time and she's always you know, pooh pooed it. But
<v Speaker 2>she's I think she's sitting on the fence right now
<v Speaker 2>after what happened and some of these other things that
<v Speaker 2>we've seen. She's like, well, she said, you'd have to
<v Speaker 2>be closed minded not to think that something else could
<v Speaker 2>possibly be out there.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, Even like the diehard skeptics, eventually their
<v Speaker 1>way of thinking will warp and they'll turn to the
<v Speaker 1>other side and be like, well, maybe there is more
<v Speaker 1>going on. So everybody changes throughout time, and the believers
<v Speaker 1>they just keep believing and believing even more. But the skeptics,
<v Speaker 1>they will change their mind eventually. It is real. It
<v Speaker 1>is happening, and there's a lot out there going on
<v Speaker 1>this planet and in the universe that we just can't explain.
<v Speaker 1>And that's just how it is. But yeah, definitely tell
<v Speaker 1>your friend who showed the YouTube channel to you. Tell
<v Speaker 1>them that Miguel from Sasquatch Theory said thank you, and
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>I will, Yeah, I told them I said yeah, I said,
<v Speaker 2>I got a response from them, so I said, I'll
<v Speaker 2>let you know what happens.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, good deal, all right man.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you again, Miguel. I really appreciate your time and
<v Speaker 2>the effort that you're putting into this, because I do
<v Speaker 2>believe there is something out there that exists, and you
<v Speaker 2>just need to get an.
<v Speaker 1>Answer absolutely, and maybe it'll save some lives.
<v Speaker 2>You never know, you never know. Thank you, Miguel.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, thank you, Paul, and you have an excellent day.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah you too, Bye bye bye.
<v Speaker 1>That wraps up another chilling episode of Sasquatch theory. Paul's
<v Speaker 1>experiences and Hayward reminds us that the unexplained doesn't just
<v Speaker 1>hide in the shadows. It sometimes steps right into our world,
<v Speaker 1>whether it's strange winds, vanishing splashes, or portals in the woods.
<v Speaker 1>His encounters push us to question what reality really is.
<v Speaker 1>I was actually amazed when I heard him mention this
<v Speaker 1>black hole, because I had seen the same thing in Hollisco, Mexico,
<v Speaker 1>many years ago, and it's haunted me to this day.
<v Speaker 1>And for some reason, I don't usually hear people mention this,
<v Speaker 1>So when I heard Paul mention the black hole. It
<v Speaker 1>really hit me hard. So I was really really excited
<v Speaker 1>to hear about this encounter, and it does make me
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's connected with the missing people and other worlds, dimensions, portals,
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it. I feel like a
<v Speaker 1>lot of paranormal activity is coming from these portals, cryptid
<v Speaker 1>creatures and aliens and UFOs. Is it all connected? I
<v Speaker 1>have no idea, but I do feel like it's related
<v Speaker 1>in some way, shape or form. What are your thoughts
<v Speaker 1>about this? Let me know down in the comments below,
<v Speaker 1>And if you have a bigfit or crypted encounter you
<v Speaker 1>would like to share with me sometime, please feel free
<v Speaker 1>to get in touch with me. If you want to
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<v Speaker 1>to these encounter stories. And yeah, if you guys venture
<v Speaker 1>out into the wilderness, please keep in mind the information
<v Speaker 1>that you learned from the podcast, because you never know
<v Speaker 1>if it's going to happen to you or someone you
<v Speaker 1>know until the next one. You guys, take care, be
<v Speaker 1>safe out in the woods and I will catch you
<v Speaker 1>Guys on the flip side take care.