182 | Mastering the 5 Goals of Child-Centered Play Therapy Sessions: From Theory to Practice
Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy
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Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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0 00:00:00,409 --> 00:00:04,309 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks. 1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,119 Your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:08,449 --> 00:00:10,630 Hi, I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,729 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get 4 00:00:12,739 --> 00:00:15,029 a master class in child-centered Play therapy 5 00:00:15,109 --> 00:00:17,379 and practical support and application for your 6 00:00:17,389 --> 00:00:19,399 work with children and their families. 7 00:00:19,540 --> 00:00:20,450 In today's episode, 8 00:00:20,459 --> 00:00:23,110 we are continuing in the summer school series 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,350 reading seminal texts from the child-centered theoretical model. 10 00:00:27,709 --> 00:00:28,319 And today, 11 00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:30,889 I'm going to be reading a few things from 12 00:00:30,899 --> 00:00:34,330 the practical handbook for building the play therapy relationship 13 00:00:34,659 --> 00:00:37,049 by Giordano, Landreth, and Jones. 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,639 So before we dive into that, 15 00:00:39,650 --> 00:00:43,020 I have a few housekeeping things and then we'll get to the text. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,750 So, first and foremost, 17 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:47,740 I wanted to let you all know that we have a couple spots 18 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:52,049 left in the August group of the play Therapy Professional Certification program. 19 00:00:52,389 --> 00:00:56,009 So if you have been thinking about being a part of the coaching program, 20 00:00:56,020 --> 00:00:58,659 if you've been interested in setting up a discovery call with me, 21 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:03,009 we have a few spots left that cohort begins on August 19th. 22 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:04,699 So we have a couple of weeks to go 23 00:01:04,919 --> 00:01:07,230 if you have been wondering if it would be a 24 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:09,459 good fit for you please set up a discovery call, 25 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:11,650 go to www.playtherapypro.com 26 00:01:11,989 --> 00:01:15,360 and click on "get certified" and you can set up the call there. 27 00:01:15,870 --> 00:01:17,660 Ok. Housekeeping item number two. 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,449 Back by popular demand, 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,419 we are launching 30 00:01:22,660 --> 00:01:26,300 one last and final Six-Figure Play Therapist program. 31 00:01:26,790 --> 00:01:29,230 So for those of you that have not been around for a while, 32 00:01:29,239 --> 00:01:32,459 are not familiar with how the coaching programs have evolved. 33 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:36,639 The Six-Figure Play Therapist program was a year long program 34 00:01:36,949 --> 00:01:42,239 and it combined child-centered play therapy skills with business acumen. 35 00:01:42,250 --> 00:01:46,779 So it was very focused on private practice, on making that profitable, 36 00:01:47,199 --> 00:01:51,660 as well as building child-centered skills so that you can 37 00:01:52,209 --> 00:01:54,300 provide for yourselves and your family 38 00:01:54,589 --> 00:01:55,690 and do what you love. 39 00:01:56,309 --> 00:02:00,650 I had a lot of people reach out and say that they wanted one but not the other. 40 00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:05,180 So we split those tracks, but I've now had people say I really want both. 41 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:07,180 So we're gonna do one more round 42 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:09,710 and we're going to take the content from it 43 00:02:09,979 --> 00:02:12,699 to create some on demand training in the future. 44 00:02:12,729 --> 00:02:16,220 But if you are interested in the private practice coaching 45 00:02:16,509 --> 00:02:20,970 and the business coaching as well as the child-centered play therapy training, 46 00:02:21,089 --> 00:02:23,639 then the Six-Figure program is probably for you. 47 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:28,600 So more information to come on that we are wanting to launch that mid September. 48 00:02:29,139 --> 00:02:32,570 So we will keep you aware of what to do to 49 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:34,809 express interest in that and get signed up for that. 50 00:02:35,119 --> 00:02:37,289 But that is going to be one final hurrah 51 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:41,110 of a year long coaching program for both tracks. 52 00:02:41,539 --> 00:02:43,639 Ok. And then last, but not least 53 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:45,410 wanted to give you all an update. 54 00:02:46,009 --> 00:02:48,630 I was not given a booth at the 55 00:02:48,860 --> 00:02:51,270 APT convention in Atlanta this year. 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,710 I'll keep 57 00:02:53,660 --> 00:02:56,250 my thoughts quiet on that. However, 58 00:02:56,410 --> 00:02:59,050 I am going and I do wanna make you all aware for those 59 00:02:59,059 --> 00:03:02,600 of you who've been thinking about going or have already plans to go. 60 00:03:03,070 --> 00:03:07,820 I will be there. I am planning a big meet up on Friday evening. 61 00:03:08,339 --> 00:03:12,229 So that Friday, I don't know whether we're going to get a room in the hotel, 62 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,300 we're going to get a restaurant, we're going to 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,029 cop-a-squat on the pool deck. I have no idea, but 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,750 I promise I'm working on it. 65 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:24,750 Just know that I'm going to get all of my tribes people together. 66 00:03:24,759 --> 00:03:28,110 So if you're a podcast listener, if you're a coaching participant, 67 00:03:28,279 --> 00:03:31,710 if you are a collective member, if you've ever heard of me, 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,259 ever know anything about me? 69 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:34,710 This is for you. 70 00:03:34,929 --> 00:03:39,539 I love you all. I promised y'all I'd be there. So I, so it will not be in a booth 71 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:40,779 environment. 72 00:03:41,009 --> 00:03:44,440 I'm going to make sure that we have an opportunity to all get together. 73 00:03:44,970 --> 00:03:47,899 I'm probably going to do some live podcast episodes 74 00:03:48,059 --> 00:03:51,729 and I'll probably do some interviews. So who knows what's gonna happen? 75 00:03:51,740 --> 00:03:54,279 But Friday and Saturday, I will be at the conference 76 00:03:54,580 --> 00:03:57,160 and more information to come on where those meet 77 00:03:57,169 --> 00:03:59,279 ups will be and what that will look like. 78 00:04:00,009 --> 00:04:03,070 All right, housekeeping over, let's get into 79 00:04:03,289 --> 00:04:03,910 the text. 80 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:07,179 So again, I'm reading from A practical handbook for building the play therapy 81 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:07,990 relationship, 82 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:10,080 Giordano, Landreth, and Jones. 83 00:04:10,570 --> 00:04:15,770 So five goals of play therapy sessions are outlined in the beginning of this book. 84 00:04:16,329 --> 00:04:18,678 And I'm going to go through each of the five 85 00:04:19,108 --> 00:04:21,220 and I found it so interesting 86 00:04:21,488 --> 00:04:24,589 that once, you know, child-centered theory, 87 00:04:25,579 --> 00:04:29,309 it's so evident why these are five goals 88 00:04:29,589 --> 00:04:31,809 and how you get there 89 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:35,209 with use of specific tools. 90 00:04:35,369 --> 00:04:38,690 So you'll see what I mean as we go through these. So let's look at each one. 91 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:41,279 So the first goal of play therapy sessions 92 00:04:41,510 --> 00:04:42,670 is to number one, 93 00:04:43,459 --> 00:04:45,829 allow children through the medium of play 94 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:48,739 to communicate thoughts, needs and feelings. 95 00:04:50,709 --> 00:04:52,489 So when we understand 96 00:04:53,179 --> 00:04:57,149 that they're not going to communicate verbally, it's going to be through their play 97 00:04:57,769 --> 00:05:01,429 and they will communicate thoughts, needs and feelings. Sometimes 98 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:04,029 in other texts they reference 99 00:05:04,250 --> 00:05:05,709 wants and desires. 100 00:05:06,359 --> 00:05:09,359 So you might wanna throw those in there as well, communicate thoughts, needs, 101 00:05:09,369 --> 00:05:10,910 feelings, wants and desires. 102 00:05:11,649 --> 00:05:15,799 But the goal is to allow children through their play, to express those things. 103 00:05:16,670 --> 00:05:17,440 And 104 00:05:17,570 --> 00:05:21,339 this essentially means that they are having an experiential 105 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:24,619 and emotional conversation with us. 106 00:05:25,859 --> 00:05:28,410 So we're not necessarily talking about these things, 107 00:05:28,630 --> 00:05:33,079 but we as play therapists in a child-centered playroom are experiencing 108 00:05:33,089 --> 00:05:37,200 these things and we are connecting emotionally on these things. 109 00:05:37,420 --> 00:05:41,779 And what is the tool that allows us to most effectively do this 110 00:05:42,220 --> 00:05:43,679 are reflective responding. 111 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:49,350 So as the child is behaving, 112 00:05:49,929 --> 00:05:51,940 speaking or emoting, 113 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:55,059 they are letting us 114 00:05:55,660 --> 00:05:57,809 a little window, a peek through the window 115 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,929 of their thoughts, needs feelings, wishes and desires. 116 00:06:02,089 --> 00:06:06,589 So through the use of reflective responses, we are able to 117 00:06:06,750 --> 00:06:09,739 create an environment where that goal can be achieved. 118 00:06:10,609 --> 00:06:12,029 OK. Goal number two 119 00:06:12,359 --> 00:06:15,440 to help children develop a more positive self-concept 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,880 and more positive feelings 121 00:06:18,329 --> 00:06:21,859 of self acceptance, self-respect, self worth 122 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:23,109 and self-confidence. 123 00:06:24,209 --> 00:06:28,350 Let me read that again to help children develop a more positive self-concept 124 00:06:28,910 --> 00:06:34,109 and more positive feelings of self acceptance, self-respect, self worth 125 00:06:34,220 --> 00:06:35,350 and self-confidence. 126 00:06:36,420 --> 00:06:37,019 OK? 127 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:41,399 And when we understand that children will naturally 128 00:06:42,010 --> 00:06:45,769 start to think of themselves in more positive ways through the child-centered 129 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:46,619 process. 130 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:51,390 And a universal outcome is an increase in self esteem. 131 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:56,010 The way that we create an environment where this takes place 132 00:06:56,149 --> 00:06:57,950 is conveying the be-with attitudes. 133 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,149 I'm sure you're all yelling them at me. You know, my pop quizzes, 134 00:07:03,380 --> 00:07:07,100 I'm here. I hear you. I understand, I care, and I delight in you. 135 00:07:08,899 --> 00:07:10,589 So when we convey 136 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:13,470 those five principles 137 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,230 and attitudes to children, 138 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:22,709 they naturally will develop positive feelings of self acceptance, self respect, 139 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,970 self worth and self-confidence. 140 00:07:23,980 --> 00:07:24,359 Why? 141 00:07:24,489 --> 00:07:26,190 Because it's unconditional, 142 00:07:27,489 --> 00:07:30,619 I'm here, I hear you, I understand, I care, and I delight in you 143 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:32,019 no matter 144 00:07:32,769 --> 00:07:37,829 what your behavior is, no matter what you say, no matter how you feel, 145 00:07:37,940 --> 00:07:39,510 no matter what happens. 146 00:07:40,859 --> 00:07:43,220 So they develop a more positive self concept 147 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:47,880 and the way that that takes place is our expression of the be-with attitudes. 148 00:07:48,859 --> 00:07:50,170 OK. Goal number three 149 00:07:50,429 --> 00:07:53,239 to help children develop more self direction, 150 00:07:53,679 --> 00:07:54,920 self reliance, 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,190 self responsibility 152 00:07:57,359 --> 00:08:00,850 and self control. There's a lot of self words in these goals. 153 00:08:01,190 --> 00:08:02,470 Isn't that lovely? 154 00:08:02,670 --> 00:08:03,739 Does it? OK. Sorry. 155 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:06,690 I'm just gonna take a quick left turn here, but I promise it'll, 156 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:08,369 it'll come back full circle. 157 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:11,359 What other modality 158 00:08:12,709 --> 00:08:15,859 would have goals that have so many words 159 00:08:15,869 --> 00:08:19,809 that begin with self as a hyphenated expression. 160 00:08:20,809 --> 00:08:25,269 We've said self concept, self acceptance, self respect, self worth, 161 00:08:25,279 --> 00:08:28,950 self confidence, self direction, self reliance, self responsibility, 162 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:29,829 self control. 163 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,230 Why? 164 00:08:32,549 --> 00:08:37,528 Because we believe in the child's inherent awareness of what they need to do 165 00:08:37,938 --> 00:08:39,308 for themselves 166 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,659 and it's 167 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:42,619 child directed, 168 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:44,539 child initiated 169 00:08:44,780 --> 00:08:46,190 child led. 170 00:08:46,539 --> 00:08:49,659 Why? Because it's self actualization. 171 00:08:51,469 --> 00:08:53,479 We can't force a child 172 00:08:53,729 --> 00:08:54,390 to 173 00:08:54,820 --> 00:08:56,349 do any of these things. 174 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,440 It's predicated on the notion 175 00:08:59,590 --> 00:09:01,309 that they will self 176 00:09:01,419 --> 00:09:01,979 direct, 177 00:09:02,979 --> 00:09:04,659 they will self heal, 178 00:09:05,049 --> 00:09:06,700 they will self change. 179 00:09:07,489 --> 00:09:09,080 We could give them a worksheet. 180 00:09:09,729 --> 00:09:11,229 But that's us. 181 00:09:12,309 --> 00:09:15,820 That's Brenna, that's you fill in the blank, your name. 182 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:17,929 That's therapist, that's adult, 183 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,250 that's authority figure, that's teacher, 184 00:09:21,570 --> 00:09:22,650 that's coach, 185 00:09:22,859 --> 00:09:24,450 that's counselor. 186 00:09:25,530 --> 00:09:27,400 There's nothing self about that. 187 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:31,500 But look at all the times that this says self in these goals, 188 00:09:31,770 --> 00:09:32,830 how delightful. 189 00:09:33,239 --> 00:09:36,080 Ok? I promised I would come back. I'm back. So 190 00:09:36,330 --> 00:09:40,150 number three to help children develop more self direction, self reliance, 191 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:42,590 self responsibility and self control 192 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:44,309 and 193 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:48,969 the skill that we use, that creates the environment for that. 194 00:09:49,090 --> 00:09:51,299 Actually, this is kind of a combo 195 00:09:51,940 --> 00:09:54,789 we limit set when needed and necessary. 196 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,210 And otherwise 197 00:09:57,380 --> 00:09:58,989 we provide choices. 198 00:10:00,859 --> 00:10:03,919 So there's kind of a hybrid here of choice giving and limit setting 199 00:10:04,099 --> 00:10:08,239 as far as the skills go. But because limits are only needed when they're needed. 200 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,000 If we're not setting a limit, then we would be providing choices 201 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:17,940 and through the necessary limits though few and far between 202 00:10:18,130 --> 00:10:21,750 and through the opportunities that children have to make choices, 203 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,950 they develop self direction, self reliance, 204 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,820 self responsibility and self control. 205 00:10:28,020 --> 00:10:29,229 OK. Goal number four 206 00:10:29,469 --> 00:10:33,630 to assist children in learning to identify and express feelings. 207 00:10:34,770 --> 00:10:37,109 This one's probably the, the easiest of the bunch. 208 00:10:37,119 --> 00:10:38,880 I don't even probably have to go into this. But 209 00:10:38,989 --> 00:10:42,590 our skill and tool is to reflect the child's feelings. 210 00:10:43,380 --> 00:10:45,489 Notice how we're going through pillars here, 211 00:10:45,739 --> 00:10:47,419 we're going through tenets 212 00:10:47,530 --> 00:10:49,340 and foundational principles. 213 00:10:49,729 --> 00:10:52,320 We have reflective responses. We have be-with attitudes. 214 00:10:52,330 --> 00:10:53,840 Now we're hitting the pillars 215 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,979 y'all. This is the beauty of 216 00:10:57,250 --> 00:10:58,700 child-centered play therapy. 217 00:10:59,739 --> 00:11:03,940 There's framework, there's system, there's process, 218 00:11:04,140 --> 00:11:05,919 there's grounding. 219 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,010 We know what we're supposed to do 220 00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:11,080 and we know why 221 00:11:11,210 --> 00:11:12,900 and we know the outcomes. 222 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,700 This is 223 00:11:14,859 --> 00:11:18,030 the most freeing thing that we could do as 224 00:11:18,340 --> 00:11:20,020 therapists that work with children. 225 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,979 You have a theoretical model 226 00:11:24,219 --> 00:11:26,090 that gives you everything you need 227 00:11:28,409 --> 00:11:28,940 this. 228 00:11:29,609 --> 00:11:31,830 I don't understand why anyone would do anything else 229 00:11:32,059 --> 00:11:33,750 but you know, that I think that way so 230 00:11:34,109 --> 00:11:37,549 to assist children in learning to identify and express feelings, 231 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,429 we reflect their feelings, that helps them to develop an emotional vocabulary. 232 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,039 Because remember, it's a two part process, 233 00:11:44,119 --> 00:11:46,750 they have to accurately identify their feeling first 234 00:11:47,109 --> 00:11:50,710 and then they have to effectively communicate the feeling subsequently. 235 00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:55,010 So they have to identify and express them. That's what that says here. 236 00:11:55,830 --> 00:12:00,039 And they do that through an emotional vocabulary which is built from 237 00:12:00,049 --> 00:12:03,909 us being able to reflect their feelings to them in sessions. 238 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:05,590 All right. 239 00:12:05,599 --> 00:12:06,580 And then finally, 240 00:12:06,609 --> 00:12:11,429 fifth goal to help children develop an internal source of evaluation 241 00:12:11,929 --> 00:12:14,119 and to become more trusting of self. 242 00:12:14,869 --> 00:12:15,909 There's our word again, 243 00:12:16,380 --> 00:12:19,580 to help children develop an internal source of evaluation 244 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,080 and to become more trusting of self. How do we do that 245 00:12:23,789 --> 00:12:24,940 esteem, building 246 00:12:25,369 --> 00:12:26,380 and encouragement, 247 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:34,049 they have to trust themselves because someone tells them that they're capable, 248 00:12:34,669 --> 00:12:37,179 someone expresses to them that 249 00:12:37,380 --> 00:12:38,900 they can feel competent, 250 00:12:39,619 --> 00:12:44,510 someone communicates that they can have confidence in their own abilities. 251 00:12:46,070 --> 00:12:48,809 They learn to develop an internal source of evaluation 252 00:12:49,780 --> 00:12:51,739 because we're not praising them, 253 00:12:51,989 --> 00:12:53,229 we're encouraging them 254 00:12:55,119 --> 00:12:58,700 and they become more trusting of self because we're building their self esteem. 255 00:13:01,059 --> 00:13:02,320 All right. So 256 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:08,190 very clearly to me, I looked at those five goals and I was like, oh my gosh, I can, 257 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,520 I can see 258 00:13:10,270 --> 00:13:11,010 how 259 00:13:11,419 --> 00:13:17,099 those are achieved by the use of specific skills. So I kind of added my own spin there 260 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:20,130 in the book. It only went over those five goals. 261 00:13:20,140 --> 00:13:22,299 I just added the way that you get there. 262 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:25,039 Now, that's on page four, on page five. 263 00:13:25,729 --> 00:13:27,489 I want to read you two paragraphs 264 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:30,099 and we'll kind of 265 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:31,960 digest this together 266 00:13:33,369 --> 00:13:35,270 a little bit of a pep talk, I suppose. 267 00:13:35,669 --> 00:13:38,710 Although words carry powerful messages, 268 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,380 the attitude in which the words are communicated is equally important. 269 00:13:45,820 --> 00:13:50,239 Responses made in an interactive and conversational manner, 270 00:13:50,250 --> 00:13:52,359 sound natural and genuine. 271 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:56,979 The therapist's body posture, facial expressions 272 00:13:57,090 --> 00:14:02,390 and tone of voice, convey interest, warmth and acceptance of the child. 273 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:06,299 So let's look at a few of those components. 274 00:14:06,830 --> 00:14:08,919 Although words carry powerful messages. 275 00:14:08,929 --> 00:14:12,530 Yes, of course, we don't do our jobs if we don't have the words 276 00:14:12,890 --> 00:14:13,679 to do so. 277 00:14:14,289 --> 00:14:15,919 So they do carry powerful messages. 278 00:14:15,929 --> 00:14:18,940 We just looked at five goals and we looked at how the skills 279 00:14:18,950 --> 00:14:23,520 that we're using allow those goals to develop in sessions for children. 280 00:14:23,789 --> 00:14:26,479 So yes, of course, words carry powerful messages. 281 00:14:26,489 --> 00:14:30,559 However, the attitude in which the words are communicated is equally as important. 282 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:37,539 It is not just about the skills, it is not just about robotically 283 00:14:38,099 --> 00:14:41,469 spouting off what we're supposed to say when we're supposed to say it 284 00:14:42,409 --> 00:14:46,210 responses made in an interactive and conversational manner, 285 00:14:46,650 --> 00:14:48,090 sound natural and genuine. 286 00:14:48,099 --> 00:14:52,150 We talk about the flow and the fluidity and the ease of sessions. 287 00:14:53,150 --> 00:14:56,169 Trust me, I've watched gosh, thousands at this point, 288 00:14:56,510 --> 00:14:59,080 thousands of therapists play sessions 289 00:14:59,739 --> 00:15:03,770 and you know what I see consistently across almost all of them early on 290 00:15:04,869 --> 00:15:06,789 a robotic, stiff, 291 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,739 awkward vibe 292 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:13,460 in sessions. Even if the skills are being appropriately used. 293 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:15,169 Why? 294 00:15:16,090 --> 00:15:16,969 Because 295 00:15:17,070 --> 00:15:17,960 it's not 296 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:22,260 natural and genuine in an interactive and conversational manner, 297 00:15:23,559 --> 00:15:26,969 it's use of skill, use of skill, use of skill, use of skill. 298 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,049 But the attitude in which the words are communicated is equally as important. 299 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,859 The therapist's body posture, facial expression and tone of voice 300 00:15:37,219 --> 00:15:40,340 are what convey the interest, warmth and acceptance of the child. 301 00:15:42,049 --> 00:15:43,830 That's why our personalities 302 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:45,520 are a part of this. 303 00:15:46,359 --> 00:15:48,409 That's why how much we love kids 304 00:15:48,859 --> 00:15:50,570 comes out in sessions 305 00:15:51,940 --> 00:15:52,840 because it's, 306 00:15:52,979 --> 00:15:53,849 it's us, 307 00:15:54,820 --> 00:15:58,039 it's our facial expressions and tone and, and posturing 308 00:15:58,210 --> 00:16:00,150 that convey the important things. 309 00:16:01,130 --> 00:16:01,640 Ok? 310 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,500 And then the last paragraph which I think is probably the most impactful 311 00:16:06,510 --> 00:16:08,429 understanding, the rationale 312 00:16:08,690 --> 00:16:11,780 and wording of therapeutic responses 313 00:16:12,260 --> 00:16:14,659 will not produce a healing atmosphere. 314 00:16:16,419 --> 00:16:17,150 Wow, 315 00:16:18,390 --> 00:16:20,409 understanding the rationale, 316 00:16:21,349 --> 00:16:24,229 why we do what we do. You know how much I care about the why 317 00:16:25,409 --> 00:16:27,340 understanding the rationale 318 00:16:27,859 --> 00:16:28,880 and wording 319 00:16:29,710 --> 00:16:31,409 do we need to know 320 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:33,239 how the skills are to be worded? 321 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,349 Absolutely. 322 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,640 But understanding the rationale and the wording of 323 00:16:38,650 --> 00:16:41,590 the responses will not produce a healing atmosphere. 324 00:16:42,830 --> 00:16:43,679 Instead, 325 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:45,799 a genuine 326 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:47,049 trusting 327 00:16:47,239 --> 00:16:49,200 empathic relationship 328 00:16:50,049 --> 00:16:51,989 is the foundation from which 329 00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:54,309 in quotes, the words 330 00:16:55,780 --> 00:16:57,869 can empower and heal. 331 00:16:59,599 --> 00:17:01,200 All right. So that last sentence, 332 00:17:02,099 --> 00:17:03,619 the only way 333 00:17:04,060 --> 00:17:06,118 that the words that we use, 334 00:17:06,699 --> 00:17:08,250 empower kids 335 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,050 and heal kids 336 00:17:10,229 --> 00:17:14,199 is the genuine trusting empathic relationship 337 00:17:15,150 --> 00:17:17,180 that serves as the foundation 338 00:17:17,739 --> 00:17:18,810 upon which 339 00:17:19,260 --> 00:17:21,410 empowerment and healing can take place. 340 00:17:23,458 --> 00:17:24,708 So it's not 341 00:17:25,569 --> 00:17:26,260 the why 342 00:17:26,979 --> 00:17:28,439 it's not the wording, 343 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,880 it's not the skill, 344 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:33,010 it is 345 00:17:33,829 --> 00:17:35,199 the relationship 346 00:17:36,479 --> 00:17:39,719 which is genuine, trusting and empathic. 347 00:17:40,969 --> 00:17:42,010 And that 348 00:17:42,219 --> 00:17:43,439 is the foundation 349 00:17:44,369 --> 00:17:46,349 that allow the words that we say 350 00:17:47,989 --> 00:17:50,380 to create empowerment and healing for kids. 351 00:17:52,349 --> 00:17:55,709 So moral of the story and why this is a little pep talk for you. 352 00:17:56,670 --> 00:17:58,410 I hear so many of you 353 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,349 be very hard on yourselves. 354 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:05,969 I hear so many of you and, and watch so many of you and listen to so many of you, 355 00:18:06,949 --> 00:18:08,290 comment on, 356 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:11,689 I still have such a long way to go and I still have so many things I need to improve. 357 00:18:11,699 --> 00:18:14,790 And I'm still not there yet and I'm still not where I wanna be. And, 358 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:17,880 and there's so many things that I am still trying to figure out. And 359 00:18:18,579 --> 00:18:21,140 yes, as you should, as we all should 360 00:18:21,390 --> 00:18:23,709 never stop learning, never stop growing, 361 00:18:23,829 --> 00:18:25,709 never stop honing skills. 362 00:18:27,189 --> 00:18:28,469 Always, always, 363 00:18:28,949 --> 00:18:30,520 if we stagnate, we die. 364 00:18:30,930 --> 00:18:31,569 So 365 00:18:31,729 --> 00:18:33,939 let's make sure that we're always 366 00:18:34,099 --> 00:18:35,410 trying to 367 00:18:36,770 --> 00:18:38,939 be the best child-centered play therapist that we can be. 368 00:18:39,719 --> 00:18:40,400 However, 369 00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:47,709 we cannot get so caught up in the words and the skills 370 00:18:47,890 --> 00:18:49,069 and the rationale 371 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,459 and 372 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,180 whether or not we had it exactly like the book says it, 373 00:18:55,739 --> 00:18:58,650 that we lose the fact that yet again, 374 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,040 what, what's, what's my favorite phrase about this whole thing? 375 00:19:02,869 --> 00:19:04,969 It's always about the relationship 376 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,180 and if there is a genuine, 377 00:19:08,349 --> 00:19:11,219 trusting, empathic relationship 378 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,560 that serves as the cornerstone 379 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:18,930 and then, and only then 380 00:19:19,410 --> 00:19:20,760 the words, 381 00:19:21,069 --> 00:19:22,380 empower and heal. 382 00:19:23,109 --> 00:19:25,060 So it's, it's a combination 383 00:19:25,699 --> 00:19:26,579 you getting that. 384 00:19:27,310 --> 00:19:30,479 Please let that settle into the depths of your soul. 385 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,750 Please hear how important it is 386 00:19:35,060 --> 00:19:41,560 to remind yourselves that it is not the be all end all if you say every single skill 387 00:19:42,199 --> 00:19:43,880 in an ideal manner 388 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,500 because it is never 389 00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:48,829 the words. 390 00:19:49,089 --> 00:19:50,550 It's the attitude in 391 00:19:50,869 --> 00:19:52,630 which the words are communicated 392 00:19:53,089 --> 00:19:55,739 and it's the relationship that is created 393 00:19:56,719 --> 00:19:59,030 and it is the non verbals 394 00:19:59,430 --> 00:20:00,660 that convey 395 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,030 the acceptance. 396 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,579 So prioritize that just as much as you prioritize your skills 397 00:20:08,829 --> 00:20:12,300 because they both are equally important. We can't lose sight of that. 398 00:20:13,890 --> 00:20:15,819 All right, y'all, I'll end with that. 399 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,099 Feel loved, feel encouraged, feel supported. 400 00:20:19,329 --> 00:20:20,939 We'll talk again soon. Bye. 401 00:20:21,969 --> 00:20:25,949 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr Brenna Hicks. 402 00:20:25,959 --> 00:20:28,109 For more episodes and resources. 403 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,989 Please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.