Back in the Ring & The Dating Pool with Nikki and Brie Bella

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Speaker 1: Hi, Amber, Hilelah, Welcome to an Unlikely Affair. Today is like, Amber, I don't know if you were into like reality TV back in the day.

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Speaker 2: I've always been into it.

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Speaker 1: So I watched Total Divas on E became obsessed with these two girls known as the Bella Twins. Today we have Nicki and brig Garcia on the podcast. I am so thrilled to have them on because number one, I'm obsessed with the WWE.

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Speaker 2: I just find it fascinating and.

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Speaker 1: The shit they right and what they built off of it, and they're so hot, right, they're so hot and like rock and bods. And then Bree goes off and like finds the love of her life. I really want to know how that happened, like picture perfect marriage, what does one look for? And then Nicky's kind of like me, where she's like I'm gonna dabble with the younger men. I'm like, ooh, I feel like we're on the same life path. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: So that's I'm excited. I am too.

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Speaker 1: It's like gonna it's like nostalgic but very I mean, they're a household name at this point, so I'm excited to talk to them, especially them returning to the WWE.

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Speaker 3: It's a whole world, that whole you know, like it's just a monster world that a lot. You're either in it and you know everything, or you're out and you're so curious, like, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Want to be in the club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this. That level of fandom is so crazy to me. The people in the audience with the signs, holy fuck. I want to also talk to them about who they think would win between you and I going TOES. I would definitely take a fulld out a fold up chair to you.

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Speaker 2: That's my most favorite move.

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Speaker 3: Well thank oh, well, thank you. I'm sure that would feel amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's not real. It's not real.

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Speaker 3: But knowing you, you would actually do it and it would be like a oop, and then I would be like, okay, let's, you know, get a stretcher Ambernesea.

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Speaker 2: You know what, You're right, You're so right. I see you like missing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, remember the slap that we did for the TikTok and I did the wrong.

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Speaker 2: I should not play pretend.

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Speaker 1: Your your liability for the biggest liability. Let's get Nikki and Brigarcia in the building. I cannot wait.

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Speaker 2: Hi, you both wait what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, we going today?

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Speaker 2: Is this just for us?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: We had We're here in New York, so it's like media day.

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Speaker 5: We did some stuff. But I feel like for you both, I can like kind of open it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let it out. My love to have you, choker, and this is cool. You both look amazing.

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Speaker 1: I have been watching you guys since the time I was I was a youngin right when Total Divas came out?

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Speaker 2: What year was that? Gosh, do you remember two with that?

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Speaker 4: I mean before twenty ten, like two thousand was it?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 5: I got married twenty twenty thirteen, twenty yeah, twenty twelve, twenty year right, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, oh my god. And the moment you guys stepped on the scene, it was like, who are these two incredibly gorgeous women who are in such a strange world like you guys, And the level of fandom.

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Speaker 2: I have to know because.

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Speaker 1: I know that you guys were like in the modeling world and you were acting. You were also waitresses, like I know the drill. How did you fall into the wwe?

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Speaker 4: Well, what's crazy?

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Speaker 5: So we were also competitive soccer players and Nicky and I. It's funny because when we were growing up traveling in the United States playing soccer, there was a couple of user girls who we loved dressing up as the Spice Girls and lip.

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Speaker 4: Singing for everyone.

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Speaker 5: So we always loved entertaining, and then we started to waitress after high school.

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Speaker 4: We were hooter girls and we would always.

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Speaker 5: Do wwe pay per views, but yeah, we were total hooter girls. And so this is like way before social media. There was pretty much like a flyer where they were on the search for female wrestlers.

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Speaker 4: They called it Diva Search, and I was like, Okay, there's characters.

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Speaker 5: They're like rough and tough. I was like, this is I was telling myself start like this is our calling. But Nikki wanted to go play pro balling. I always playing college soccer at the time, so college soccer, waitressing and then we would do like modeling and acting gigs on the side for extra money.

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Speaker 4: But we were well we drop out and go back.

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Speaker 5: But at the time I was playing college fall Yeah. But then so you guys, it was wild because Diva Search. I don't know if you guys ever saw Glow on Netflix, but kind of like the same deal. You just show up and you're like yeah, I got this, and then you either make it or you don't. And actually Nicky and I didn't make it. They're like, yeah, you're not what we're looking for.

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Speaker 2: Well, can I ask you what that search was? Like, like what did they have you do?

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Speaker 4: So my breed told me.

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Speaker 5: She's like, so you're just gonna show up, You're gonna fight people. And I'm like, okay, cool, I got this. So we show up in like jeans and shirts and then they're like, so you need to get into bikini we need to like rate your body.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they like judged us hard.

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Speaker 5: It was ended up being like almost like a hardcore pageant vibes type of thing, like like you got judge being bikinis.

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Speaker 4: You had to do like.

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Speaker 5: Cut a promo, your walk out, do a walk out, what it would be like, what your character would be.

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Speaker 4: So there was no fighting at all.

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Speaker 5: Like and Her and I showed up because we thought we were gonna be wrestling, so we showed up in like ponytails. We made these shirts. Mine said Breezy foot cheesy, her said Nicole.

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Speaker 4: For show.

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Speaker 5: We were like, bab you got us so dead, Like all these girls like dressed up like go go damcers almost yeah, and we're like, oh damn. I was like I looked at her and I go, where did you take me? Like what is this?

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Speaker 4: Because I just thought you were going to fight.

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Speaker 5: But we ended up making our way to the ring and then had a proper like audition and they're like, okay, there's something.

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Speaker 4: More like a tryout.

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Speaker 5: So they flew us out to McDonough George outside of Atlanta and they're like, go let him get in the ring and like day one, they're slamming us and it hurts so bad.

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Speaker 4: But we both looked each other and I'm like, this is it, Like we love it.

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Speaker 1: So you knew that you loved it the moment you stepped in the ring. It was like, oh, this is our calleague yeeah.

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Speaker 4: We were like they had this like many little independent show.

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Speaker 5: I remember seeing one of the guys dressing up as a vampire, like like everyone getting.

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Speaker 4: These weird gimmicks. But I'm like, we be a part of it, and they're like you want to be a part of the show. We're like yeah. So the vampire guy, he was so crazy tall.

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Speaker 5: His cape was like this, and then he opened it and Breen and I like came out, We're like, this is so like we just I was like, this is where I belong.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, it felt like, yeah, we're part of the circus.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say.

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Speaker 3: I literally was gonna say, it's like the circus on steroids.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if the circus just randomly started beating the shit out of somebody, Yeah right.

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Speaker 5: I'm like jumps in and joins and like someone isn't on an animal good old carny energy.

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Speaker 2: Yea Carni energy.

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Speaker 1: You know. It kind of was combining all of the worlds that you guys had been in for so long, like you got to be an actress that you It was you know, the modeling obviously because you they want you to be esthetically pleasing, but then the athletic background where you guys get to because I have to imagine that that is grueling. Like when you're done, you're fucking exhausted.

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Speaker 5: Oh beyond mentally physically, it takes. It takes a huge toll in your body. I mean people don't even realize running the ropes alone, when you're hitting those ropes coming off for weeks, you'll be bruised and so tender till you're back. We've always said, like your back almost grows like this layer of protection because like this is what a doctor put it tests. When we slam our bodies on the mat, it's like putting yourself in a car accident every time you're slamming the mat. So think of the impact you're putting your body through. We've been doing it for almost twenty years with breaks in between, but it's a lot, and you have some matches that are even harder than others, and you're just waking up the next day, like and you have to tell a story. So you're being that physical and then you have to telling a story, right.

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Speaker 3: I think looking hot would be the hardest part. You're like, oh, wait, my angle, this is the better.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's definitely times out of the match we'd go on the back and I was like, oh and then when people now when social media came around and people just screenshot you in action, and I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Dude, like I don't love that. Can we not do that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So now that you guys are coming back, what was the break like? Because I know that you said that you would have breaks in between, but do you feel like you have stayed on top of your game, like people are losing their minds that, like, you guys are going to be back in action.

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Speaker 2: How are you guys feeling pressure?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: A lot of pressure for sure, because the women, it's the greatest the division's ever been, and I are we inspired a lot of the women, which are so amazing for what our era was doing. And when you take that time off and then you come and compete with girls that looked up to you, or women that looked up to you but also are holding an even higher standard, You're like, oh shit, I'm in my forties and these women looked up to me. I need to go prove like one I could hang with them and then show them that I'm still the woman that inspired them so long ago.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of pressure there for sure.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you guys don't look like you're in your forties. I think you're lying. That can't be true.

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Speaker 2: Forty two Yeah, it looks so good.

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Speaker 4: I believe it.

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Speaker 1: You know what, though, you want to know who? I feel like the game has just changed. I mean, Gwen Stefani, the kim Kys of the world, Jennifer Lopez, like no one, no woman is tripping on age anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well at least they don't look like they're tripping on age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when you guys get in the ring, do they pair you based on is it weight high age?

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Speaker 2: How does it work?

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Speaker 4: In the WWE, It's all just based on stories.

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Speaker 5: So for example, right now, Lash Legend and Nya Jacks are the tag team champions for the women's division, and so Nicky and I really want those titles.

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Speaker 4: So that's who we're going to fight.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: They're way taller than us, but if you have those titles, we're coming for you. So it's all based on story, which is so fun. But you know, we're pros, like we're professionals. It's you know, you learn the craft and it takes a long time, so you can get it in the ring with someone who might be way shorter than you or way bigger than you. Yeah, which is great. It's like it leaves it for the ar I think our fan base. It makes it more fun because you know, like David and Goliath, David found his way to take down Goliath and they you know, so when we get in the ring, the fans want to say, how do you take down this giant? And I think that's the major connection to wrestling for people is you find a character that you're drawn to, but they get in moments that they overcome, Like that's how our storytelling kind of is. Or they turn bad for a bit because a girl broke their heart, or we kind of have that what do you call it? I want to say telenovela, but what is it? Soap opera vibes to us tell these stories and that's like, especially our men, it's like a men soap opera get super attached because they feel those moments of like failure or succeeding. But this guy's like my superheroes, strong and buff, and I.

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Speaker 4: Want to be him.

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Speaker 5: And then for the women, women, especially during the Total Divas Total Bellas, are started to get really drawn to us because they're like, holy shit, these women can do what like the men are doing, or they're kicking ass and then they're going to having fun wine tasting like on the side or so now there's so much connection there and it's like totally the characters and the stories we tell.

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Speaker 3: So when are you guys getting back in the ring with WrestleMania coming up?

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Speaker 2: What's the date?

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Speaker 4: Good question?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's one of those crazy things.

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Speaker 4: The thing about our business is, so.

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Speaker 5: We came back the or I came back to the end of January, and I just assumed, Oh, you're gonna have me back every Monday. But they're like, okay, so i'll let you know when you're needed back in the story. And I'm like, it's been five weeks and so I'm hoping you know we're back there soon.

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Speaker 4: Much better. We're bitch better works.

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Speaker 5: But I like, you know, I would love to be able to wrestle before WrestleMania, and I do because of the titles are on the line and they will be at WrestleMania.

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Speaker 4: Nikki and I both want to prove like that we can hang with.

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Speaker 5: This division and that we deserve to be in that WrestleMania match to go for the titles.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, they're just gonna give me the tent.

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Speaker 1: I'm gotta get in there living for everything that's happening right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want front row.

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Speaker 4: It's in Vega.

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Speaker 2: It's in Vegas hundred, tell me when, tell me when April.

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Speaker 4: So we'll find out it's a two day event.

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Speaker 5: But we'll find out what day we're on April eighteenth and nineteen, So we'll find out we're Saturday or Sunday, but Las Vegas, it's.

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Speaker 4: So much fun. You just get and when you start.

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Speaker 5: So live and can you explain like a live wrestling show is going to be the funnest thing you ever so entertained.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna guys, I have to be there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, We're gonna have you guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so excited. My found. We let's go, let's do no and I'm gonna have new boobs.

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Speaker 1: Oh my boobs are going to be there to me, and my twins are going to be there to share on you twins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the same. What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I have so during my second pregnancy, you guys fucked me up so hard. I had like mass s titis I think is what it's called, like the yeah, and it caused scar tissue around one so they have to go in and clean that out reattach the pector muscle. And then I figured, since you're in there, why don't you make them just a little bit bigger, just a little bit bigger. You know, you guys are both parents. Yeah, I know that that isn't a huge shift. And you you guys have been uh in this entertainment world. But then you know, cameras turn on, and I don't think anything can prepare you for cameras turning on to capture your life. But then they chop it up because like, who has the fucking time to watch your entire life? Right?

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Speaker 2: We wish that.

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Speaker 1: Everyone did, because maybe had it may be a little bit better. And you guys went through you know, love, heartbreak, becoming parents, all in front of the public eye, right, how have you handled that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was it was hard. I feel like you know how it is. It's reliving those hard moments. So it's like you go through it on camera and then many months later you have to relive it.

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Speaker 4: So it's like just an awful feeling. And I feel like, well, we're a lot like you.

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Speaker 5: Like Nicki and I were like, we're gonna just be authentically us, the good, the bad, all of that. We're going to showcase like we're not going to filter ourselves, like we don't give a shit.

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Speaker 4: You either like us or you don't. We don't care.

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Speaker 5: So then a lot of those moments how people would take them, and I'm like, wait a second, you misunderstood what we were saying. But and that was that was like tough, and I think though, what has gotten us through is like we have such an incredible fandom that.

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Speaker 4: We call the Bell Army.

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Speaker 5: And the one thing that would get me through, especially the hard times and having to relive it, is I realized even when they hate would come in, but there's so many people in the world that are relating to you and they get to sit on the couch and they get to feel like they're not alone. And so Brie and I would talk about this lot. I'm like, Breede, we give them the good, the bad.

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Speaker 4: The ugly, because that is life.

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Speaker 5: We all go through that, and people who are tuning in or relating to that they hate always seems so loud, but that actually the people you inspire and have picked up impa on is so much bigger. And that's why I kept doing it for so long, especially my first public breakup was so hard, but when I realized the impact people were really having, and I'm like, see, this is why we do what we do. And I feel like some of us come into this world because it's our purpose, because not a lot of people can handle.

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Speaker 4: What we all go through in this world.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like that's why God chooses people and be like, Okay, you all got some shields.

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Speaker 4: I know you're all going to get through it. Shit might be top at times, but you're gonna get through it. Some people don't get through that, but we all do.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: I am sure people love you guys because it humanizes you. People want to see They don't want to just see the perfection right, because that's not real. And that's how people really freaking connect. And that's probably why your fan base is so strong, because you're beautiful. You've gone through shit, heartbreak, motherhood, life gets messy, and people are like, oh, I love those girls like they.

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Speaker 4: Get it get totally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it took a while to get to this point where you kind of have to separate reality from reality, which is such.

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Speaker 2: A mind fuck.

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Speaker 1: But also, and this just happened recently, you guys have been doing this far longer than I have, which is amazing. I mean, the fact that you guys have built this empire based off of like just an audition that you saw on a flyer is pretty and it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you both.

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Speaker 1: But it was like I got to a place where it's like, it is not my job to get you to understand me, right, you can understand me or you don't have to.

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Speaker 2: It is not my issue. My life goes on.

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Speaker 1: And once I kind of accepted that and knew that I'm not going to get married to my own story because I can't.

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Speaker 2: It's ever evolving, it's ever changing.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a producer, you know, may go, this is interesting to you, doesn't fall in line with the rest of the story. It's got to come out great. I can't fucking worry about it. So if anyone wants to like slide in the comments section and be a little twat when they should be saying thank you for entertaining me on a Tuesday night, that's on you.

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Speaker 2: It's not on me exactly.

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Speaker 5: So well, you know, I read that. I'm sure a lot of us did, but the Mel Robbins book let them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it was so you go read it. It's so good.

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Speaker 4: It's so good and it's so true.

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Speaker 5: And one thing I took as like just being a reality star is like they're already going to form their opinion before they even see you on TV, before they watch your story throughout this season. They already have their opinion. It'll be very hard to change. So let them, and I always start to go like that. I was like, you know what, I can be like Mother Teresa on this series and they.

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Speaker 4: Will still talk shit and hate me totally because I blew my nose weird, like something weird. And so I loved that book like them.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was the most freeing reading experience I've ever had, And so I was like, I almost wish I had that my early days of filming, because I got like it would get heavy, like some of the stuff, and I'm like, wea like, you guys are watching twenty percent of what we film, like there's no depth to me, Like you're seeing these beats and these five minute scenes and you're not understanding the depth of the whole conversation or story. But I think it even goes into podcasts, you know, like she has to help me a lot more at times on the whole, like let them or whatever, because like I contend like I feel very misunderstood at times and I'm like, no, but they're not understanding.

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Speaker 4: Me or I'm not like projecting it right.

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Speaker 5: And I had to finally get to the place like, you know what, being misunderstood's my charm and if people don't like my charm.

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Speaker 4: Then that's on you.

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Speaker 5: Because I just I've realized this has been my whole career of just totally being misunderstood, like wait, no, I didn't mean it that way, or I just put my foot in my mouth a lot, like I just whatever I think first, instead of like pausing and like actually think about what I'm saying. I'm just going to say it. And I said, I don't know if that's what I meant.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it is so endearing. I think, yes, it is, Like I think it is so cute.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's something very sexy about being misunderstood. Yeah, you know, right, So I think you roll with it.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you, b because the cameras are on and you have managed to have a love story that most people can only dream about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so true.

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Speaker 1: How did you How did you know that this person was your person? How are you able to have a sustainable relationship being in the public, Like, I know that there's so many of us for me for sure, Yes, give me, give me the secret sauce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know it's interesting because Brian was never considered my type. When I looked at my type in my twenties of what I was dating, and we both never really looked twice at each other.

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Speaker 4: It was like we were kind of forcing him. He like we cringed him out so bad.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not a cringe out.

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Speaker 5: He would gets so annoyed at us because we'd be on overseas tours and we were always the type that was like blasting music, drinking wine and wanting everyone to party, and he does not drink and never has and like just wanted to read a book in peace and quiet.

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Speaker 4: And we'd be on the tour bus and we're like.

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Speaker 5: Come on, Brian, and he'd be like, oh, I hate these girls so much, like hated us. Well, I don't know hate, not hate at that point. But we got put in the storyline and we started talking a lot, and we just had the same views. We connected on so many of the different things. We both realized, like we wanted to go in the Peace Corps out of high school, like just a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy.

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Speaker 5: I never had felt so connected with someone in conversation. And we started to become friends, and before wrestling shows I would always invite him. I always liked to go to museums or something in the arts world and he started tagging along with me, and we both just fell for each other. And I felt like, if I saw it all, yeah, I would ask you, oh, you're not calling for Daniel Bryan, are you like segments? And I was like, do you think he's gay? I don't even think he's into girls.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you're brutal, brutal, You're brutal.

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Speaker 5: But before he and I, it was like, so when we fell for each other, I remember when we started to do Total Divas, we both just kind of told each other like, if it ever gets to a point that it's tearing us apart, it's not worth it to us, because this means more than any of that. Yeah, And there was times where he and I had to kind of step to the side and I'm like, listen, guys, Brian can't film today, Like it's too much. And I was very delicate with the situations, like I'm like with him, and we didn't mind showcasing when things got hard, especially because my husband does fight depression and we've been on that journey.

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Speaker 4: But he and I just feel.

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Speaker 5: Like we're hippies, Like we're very grounded people and when we know we need to decompress. We go hiking together, we garden together, like we're out in nature a lot. And I hate to say it, I feel like nature is this calming, free decompression all this humans. Sometimes when we're out there, we don't realize how good it makes this feel. But it's good for relationship. It's good for their relationship with our children. And so I don't know if it's been in more in the natural world, having.

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Speaker 4: This relationship that's helped us. You know, they're very good people.

00:23:51
Speaker 5: But also yeah, and I know a very understanding husband. We've respected each other along the way too, in a lot of respect.

00:23:56
Speaker 3: Like that's the most important thing, is respect. I told a lot of this the other day. Is you have to respect someone first and then you admire them, and then you trust them, and then you love them, Like that's the order of operation. And I could totally relate. I moved in August last August from la to Montana, And when you were talking about nature, I didn't know why I came out here during the summer to just visit my sister and I had no intentions of moving here. And I got here and I looked at the mountains and I said I need to be here. I don't know why. And then I figured out I need to be up in big sky or the bridgers in the middle of nowhere. And it was like the most healing thing. So when you said, I was like, oh my god, one hundred percent get that.

00:24:42
Speaker 4: It's crazy when you're like soul calls you.

00:24:45
Speaker 5: Because like bra and I would always go to NAPA because we never really got vacation time, so when we'd have a few days off, like NAPO was always our spot.

00:24:53
Speaker 4: To go, decompress, have fun.

00:24:55
Speaker 5: And then when twenty twenty hit and when we were pregnant and then we had our boys, we just wanted to be away from cities and we're like, why does NAPA always call us like we it has to be more than vacations. So we just picked up our ship and moved there.

00:25:09
Speaker 4: We found two homs like each other.

00:25:10
Speaker 5: On Zillow told like our dudes like bye, you could not but we're going and it's been the greatest thing. But I realized, like it just we had to be in a place where we can disconnect. There's no big buildings, there's no airports. Were amongst vineyards and mountains and sunrises and sunsets and like like we were just called there.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: And I get it. Yeah, my dream is for Lala and I to live next door to each other.

00:25:36
Speaker 1: Oh we get big scat is so not happening. I hail from Utah, all right, I got the nature.

00:25:47
Speaker 2: Love it great. I'll bop in, bop out.

00:25:50
Speaker 3: She always says to me. She's like, when are you coming back to La And I'm like, it's going to take a lot.

00:25:54
Speaker 2: To get back yourself.

00:25:55
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm some like little social butterfly and want to be in a big city. Not what it is at all. Like I hunger down. I love my little house. I like love to go.

00:26:05
Speaker 3: Outside, and you go to Palm Springs. You escape to go to Palm Springs.

00:26:08
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm the the gray in this situation. The three of you have gone rogue, off the grid, joy.

00:26:21
Speaker 4: Have all of us to come to and then, yes, you.

00:26:23
Speaker 2: See That's how I feel, Big Sky. Do you think you'll ever come back to like the city life?

00:26:31
Speaker 4: No away?

00:26:34
Speaker 5: I mean I like chickens, my greenhouse, oh, my garden beds.

00:26:39
Speaker 2: You know what with the state of the world, you have it figured out.

00:26:42
Speaker 4: I do you know what I told my kids. Now my kids are eight and five.

00:26:46
Speaker 5: Okay, the garden. My kid's not to grow food. I was like, what's so important now is to learn life skills. My daughter right now is learning how to ham like she's in sewing class. And I was just like, life skills. If you know how to grow your own food, you're already ahead. And I think it's such an important skill and it's easy, and it's like like Sunday, just past Sunday. I sent her picture. I went to the nursery, spent like four hundred dollars. I like, planted like spring flowers. I did a bunch of my garden beds, I you know, cleaned out the coop. I like, just our whole family was out there and make my kids do it with me and my husband. We both obviously enjoy it. But it was such a fun family day.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: I loved it. You're speaking my language.

00:27:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, And oh my gosh, you need to get chickens because chickens will change your life. Like those girls make me laugh all the time. They're the cutest little things. At gather them for dactyls that just.

00:27:39
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, oh they still don't let you know, Oh, my mom has My mom has a ranch in Nebraska, and she's taught us how to you like put them to sleep.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's like.

00:27:52
Speaker 4: But that's so. But you know, I rescued mine from a fight.

00:27:56
Speaker 2: Pa, you know what, I fuck with you so hard.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: I love that you rescued your chickens for you.

00:28:04
Speaker 2: Good for you, you know what I mean.

00:28:06
Speaker 5: But they're like fighting chickens, so they do not let me get closed. You know.

00:28:11
Speaker 1: Do you take the birds out of the streets, but you can't take the bird?

00:28:16
Speaker 2: No? No, no no. Do they each have a name, by the way, did you need your chicken?

00:28:23
Speaker 4: And they have their own plaque, their own flack.

00:28:25
Speaker 5: It's Miss Hide and Seek, Tinkerbell Fiddler because she loves me on the roof, Brownie Princess Pearl, and then Fluffy rest in Peace got taken by a hawk.

00:28:36
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, a bird cried, Yeah.

00:28:41
Speaker 4: You gotta watch I go. I literally, you guys have to see me. I'm on hop duty like every.

00:28:44
Speaker 5: Damn out there, and like like one day this hawk came and I was like, oh shit, it's like right up in this tree and my girls were like laying out. So I like grabbed this hoe and I like stood on my garden bed and I didn't want to make a loud noise to my chickens go crazy. And I'm like like flipping to.

00:29:02
Speaker 4: The hawk because I'm like, you know, hawks have those good eye visions. I'm like, it can see me.

00:29:06
Speaker 2: I can see you for sure. You know what I mean, You've got great eyes.

00:29:10
Speaker 4: The two crows.

00:29:11
Speaker 5: Came and started pecking up the hawk and made it go, oh my good.

00:29:14
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm loving the amount of bird. The bird should it's happened. You know, it's the circle of like over here. I know this is like what I do on my off days.

00:29:26
Speaker 4: Is that like crazy?

00:29:36
Speaker 1: Speaking of hoes in the air, Nicky, not call you a hoe. By the way, I was referring to myself because I have been in my whole era and I was twenty twenty years younger then her.

00:30:01
Speaker 2: Ex he's hers, I don't claim him.

00:30:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now I've started holding it up with like young young men and then an article Yeah but okay, yeah that you too like a young man. And I want to ask how young is too young?

00:30:21
Speaker 2: First? Let's talk about that.

00:30:23
Speaker 5: I mean, I do like twenty years young, super young, like you can't go beyond that I feel like, and what what was it like twenty years? Like twenty years is too young's.

00:30:35
Speaker 4: Oh, like twenty two is even super young.

00:30:37
Speaker 2: That's very young, very young? So what are we in? Like maybe like twenty six is that? Okay?

00:30:42
Speaker 4: Yeah? I like late twenties are good if he's mature.

00:30:46
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.

00:30:47
Speaker 4: That makes a different conversation with the one.

00:30:51
Speaker 5: No, I know, but what I mean is like I kind of feel like one week from Obviously it depends on the person, but I realized, like young twenties are young, like late twenties.

00:31:00
Speaker 1: Are great, Okay, So this is the problem that I I have I've run into is even with the twenty let's say twenty six, because I was I started to like kind of talk and communicate with a twenty three year old, and my family intervened and had like a full on sit down with me. They were like, you've lost your fucking mind. So I'm like, all right, twenty six, ten years, but you cannot teach life experience, no, right? So yeah, I was talking to this guy who was like very well educated.

00:31:39
Speaker 2: But then there were moments.

00:31:42
Speaker 1: For example, I asked him we were at dinner, and I was like, how do you feel about me having children because I you know, I know you've never dated anyone with kids, And he goes, it's not a problem, you know, it's just like it's what you have, And I'm like, it's not just what I have, like quite literally makes up who I am as a person. Yes, I'm like, all right, So you can have like this big fancy degree, play a professional sport, and travel and do whatever it is you do, but you cannot teach the life experience. When you start talking to two younger, younger men, what are like the little red flags that you go like, Okay, this is not going anywhere beyond like either a hookup or just like a good conversation.

00:32:26
Speaker 4: Well, I already look at the guys in their twenties. Is just a hookup? I know?

00:32:29
Speaker 5: For me, like, it's not It wouldn't be anything more than that. It's not realistic. And I'm someone who's obsessed with conversation. I'm obsessed with sharing experiences. So I already know like alone, especially just to being a man, like I need to have someone like you said, who's lived a journey.

00:32:51
Speaker 4: I need that. That's how I connect.

00:32:53
Speaker 5: So I've only looked at the ones in their twenties that I've been with as hookups like have fun, helps you get your group back, makes you feel sexy. But I've never thought of them anything more because one being a mom and just knowing what I want for.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: When I get older.

00:33:10
Speaker 5: What I've realized and tell me if you feel this way. One thing that has made me realize being with some guys in their twenties, they don't have the appreciation and they shouldn't by the way of aging or of what a body does when it gives birth, like when you're like, my dream would be like someone maybe around my age give or take, who's maybe divorce and has kids, who can appreciate what a woman has gone through as far as like pregnancy, had a kid, but also the aging process, like I kind of I was thinking after I've talked to some of the younger ones, I'm like, I really want to connect with someone that I could be like doesn't it suck getting these wrinkles? Or like, gosh, isn't this forty era like so crazy? Like sometimes when I'm alone, I realize it where it's like, so you could grow old with someone so you could laugh at those things and have fun and they get it. I love this when they don't appreciate it in that way. And then like with her, I almost said it almost started to giving me an insecurity, and then I have to be like no, no, no, wait, you look great.

00:34:09
Speaker 4: For your age. I don't mind her all the time. I'm like, dude, you're smoking hot.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: You are hot.

00:34:15
Speaker 5: It was the media because they made a big deal about this age gap that it was the time I had people come at me calling me a groomer, calling me a grandma, and I was like, what.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: The fuck, I'll fuck with you.

00:34:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it kind of it made it ruined things for sure, like even something fun, because it was like it just made me feel very weird, and I was like, I don't like this kind of attention at all.

00:34:42
Speaker 1: It's just like there, I so relate to everything you're saying. Because they're the twenty years older was like disgusting. But now going even just ten years younger, that does pop up for me because there are things that they say and I'm like, what is happening? Like you never heard the word crows feet? What the fuck do you mean?

00:35:10
Speaker 4: I mean it's wild?

00:35:13
Speaker 5: Yes, well I completely agree with you, and when I mean no, see this is where it could be different, Like it's hard when there's professional athletes. So where I feel like they're different when they're younger is you can't grab a younger athlete's hand and be like you're going to be a pro.

00:35:30
Speaker 4: That's how we were going to do it.

00:35:32
Speaker 5: They have their own motivation, their own goals, they're they're very what's the word I'm looking for, the driven driven for young men.

00:35:42
Speaker 4: So to me, that's where I like didn't.

00:35:45
Speaker 5: Feel weird about my thing is like it was a very driven man, like you wouldn't think young unless.

00:35:51
Speaker 4: Like then you realize there's no life experiences.

00:35:54
Speaker 5: Then there's another one that was like younger who didn't have those kind of goals And I'm like, whoa, you are such a guy in his twenties who like.

00:36:01
Speaker 4: To do in life and that was like weird and didn't know things.

00:36:06
Speaker 2: But yeah, he didn't know things, you know.

00:36:09
Speaker 1: It is a different It's just a different ballgame when you have a child to think of as well. Because how how old is your son?

00:36:18
Speaker 4: Mateo's five five and a half.

00:36:20
Speaker 2: I love that name. That's right, because you're your guys is Yeah.

00:36:24
Speaker 4: Boys are two hours apart. Our boys are and then my daughter eight.

00:36:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I love this. That is so so much fun.

00:36:33
Speaker 1: That is an age where like who you bring around, they're gonna have memory of him totally.

00:36:40
Speaker 5: And I have like a rule for me is like I won't let anyone around Mateo. Tell I've been with the guy for a while.

00:36:47
Speaker 2: What's a while?

00:36:49
Speaker 4: I mean for me probably minimum a year?

00:36:51
Speaker 5: Really yeah, Like I need to know he's for good because my son, he's sensitive.

00:36:57
Speaker 4: And he's very protective of me, and it would break him.

00:37:01
Speaker 5: To one for man to he's not even ready for a new guy to come in like at all, Like that would break my son and I wouldn't do that to him.

00:37:08
Speaker 4: But let's just say years down the road, Like I would.

00:37:10
Speaker 5: Have to know it's for good pretty much for him to be around Matteo, because Mitteo loves people very much, Like he's crazy close with Uncle Brian, and if anything would to put him through a breakup again, I think would be devastating for him.

00:37:25
Speaker 4: But like I just have to make sure I know someone's right, especially as Mama's boy. While you're sharing, I was.

00:37:32
Speaker 5: Just laughing thing this I do want to say, just because like so Cooper, because obviously that's when I've made headlines with incredible guy.

00:37:42
Speaker 4: We just have a big age gap. But I want like, because.

00:37:46
Speaker 5: There's been other ones, but for him, like he's amazing, it's just the age gap.

00:37:50
Speaker 2: What's the age gap between you and Cooper?

00:37:53
Speaker 4: Well, he's the twenty year one that I made the headlines with. Yeah, he's amazing.

00:37:57
Speaker 5: It's other ones that you know, with the life EXPERI but with him because I don't want anything, you know, bad about him. You know, have you guys seen the reels of the premenopause stuff?

00:38:07
Speaker 2: Women doing no tell me, oh my gosh, it should be doing it.

00:38:11
Speaker 5: So they go to their husband They're like, can you take off the take out the trash and the husband's like yeah in two minutes and then it's like they like just scream and rip them.

00:38:19
Speaker 4: Apart like a joke.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:38:21
Speaker 5: I was just thinking of these like twenty year old guys dealing with like women who are like like, yeah, I had off for like.

00:38:28
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you just made me think a lot. I did not even think about that part.

00:38:34
Speaker 5: Well, and that's like my thing is I just That's why I'm like, I have to have someone older because there's just too much shit going on like inside outside.

00:38:44
Speaker 2: You're right, you know, I need someone.

00:38:47
Speaker 4: Like connect with and be And because.

00:38:50
Speaker 5: The guy at the bar last night that even though he ended up being a douche, ended up being a douche, but he was just he was around eighty eight or something, thirty five, I can tell why he's been single for son.

00:39:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I've always stated older men.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I'm an old soul.

00:39:07
Speaker 1: No, but she likes im like just shy of a foot in the grave.

00:39:14
Speaker 8: But you're way too fucking hot to be Oh with saggy balls. Okay, Saggi balls. There's nothing wrong with Saggie balls. Maybe that's my thing.

00:39:28
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm with you. There's it.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, like almost seventy. Wasn't that guy almost seventy? About die? No? Sixty? It doesn't matter. Here's the thing, this one I'm saying.

00:39:39
Speaker 3: Because I have children, I find that even guys around my age, even the guys that I've tried to date, they're like still growing out. And I'm like, I'm not at that phase in my life. Like, shit's real. I wake up. I have a kid that didn't go to school today. I have a meltdown in the other someone's going through a break up. I'm dealing with paramenopause Like this is real fucking life, Like I can't deal with the child. And some guys that are thirty eight, yeah, they're just not there yet.

00:40:11
Speaker 2: They're not there.

00:40:11
Speaker 3: So if you go a little older, maybe someone that's been married or has kids, like you said, they have an appreciation for being a single mom for you know, doing everything that we have to do on a day to day basis to keep looking young, healthy, fit, a happy home like, spiritually aligned, sober like it's it's a lot, No.

00:40:33
Speaker 4: It is a lot.

00:40:34
Speaker 5: I you know, the young ones are great to just make you feel sexy again, if you know, they make you feel that way, right, But that's you know, that's kind of it. They give you that, they give you that confidence boost. I'm an older man that make you feel sexy?

00:40:47
Speaker 2: Well no, but what I mean.

00:40:48
Speaker 5: It's gonna say, what you want to be with is like an older man that's they know how to seduce that.

00:40:54
Speaker 4: Okay, that's been the biggest thing too. I like to be seduced. I mean, that's point.

00:40:58
Speaker 5: If you want incredible set wine and dang you you there has to be sedection before. We don't just get right to it. And that's the one thing about an older man. He knows how to seduce a woman.

00:41:08
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, the foreplate has to be amazing.

00:41:12
Speaker 5: Yeah to me, that's like great sex now, Like I don't need to get banged all night.

00:41:17
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to be banged all night please, Like the jack rabbiting is just like so no, thank you. Like if you are trying to get my pants, you're gonna have to start at the crack of dawn, all right, but that work.

00:41:31
Speaker 5: I love day sex like I'm too tired to have night sex, Like I love data.

00:41:36
Speaker 4: Oh.

00:41:36
Speaker 2: I love to roll over on my side like this.

00:41:39
Speaker 5: Yeah. We literally love having day sex. And then we walk and go get tacos. It's like our favorite thing.

00:41:47
Speaker 2: I love. Like mid day sex. That's the best.

00:41:50
Speaker 4: Midday great.

00:41:51
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like I'm energetic, like I have no bags. Yeah no, that's when you found your person though. Mid day light.

00:42:03
Speaker 5: Out dating now and like having sex, it's like you don't want lights like just that, like holiness.

00:42:10
Speaker 3: I want my red light on. I want like it just I got to set the mood. It's got to be all totally.

00:42:16
Speaker 1: That's a seeking mood. Yeah, I've had the heyday talking to you guys. Where can people follow so that we can like be on our shit. And I'm going to see you guys at midd end of April.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm coming.

00:42:28
Speaker 5: Yes, you are well, Nikki and I I have a feeling you will be seeing us here soon on Monday Night Raw on Netflix or Friday Night SmackDown on USA.

00:42:37
Speaker 4: But we will be at.

00:42:38
Speaker 5: WrestleMania April eighteenth and nineteen, eighteenth and nineteenth in Las Vegas.

00:42:43
Speaker 4: You guys will get the Allegiant Stadium.

00:42:45
Speaker 5: Obviously we want those tag team titles, so we hope that we will be fighting for them. But the minute we find out we are follow our social media's, we're putting it out there.

00:42:54
Speaker 4: We're going to bring you both to the show. You're going to be a cham you guys' faces rest hustling fans.

00:43:02
Speaker 5: WrestleMania is like our super Bowl, but even grander. So you it's it's the best show to come. And now we're going to Montana to decompress because that I love that.

00:43:11
Speaker 2: Skuy please come and we needed.

00:43:14
Speaker 4: We need cowboys. So if you find some single cowboys.

00:43:17
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, I'll hook you up. There can be our wing woman.

00:43:22
Speaker 5: I will I find I honestly, huh, I feel like I'm good.

00:43:25
Speaker 4: I find them. I don't know, hot guy.

00:43:31
Speaker 2: I love it.

00:43:32
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for being on an Unlikely Affair. You guys are freaking amazing. I'm so happy for you guys, and you guys, thank you for listening to another episode of an Unlikely Affair.

00:43:41
Speaker 2: We're going to catch you guys next week. Bye bye