Ken Rosenthal’s Inside Scoop: Bo’s Phillies meeting, Cards-D’backs Arenado trade, Kyle Tucker's market

00:00:05
Speaker 1: FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal is here, and Ken, we love when news breaks right before the show starts instead of Saturday night at midnight or right after the show. So your thoughts on Nolan Ironato moving over to the Diamondbacks.

00:00:19
Speaker 2: When I look at it, I'm actually not that surprised, simply because we know the Diamondbacks were interested in Alex Bregman. We know they were looking for a right handed hitting corner infielder, and Aronato from that perspective, makes a lot of sense. So once Bregman went off the board, Arnado to the Diamondbacks heated up, and that is how this came to pass. The one interesting thing about this to me is how much money the Cardinals are paying. It's thirty one of the remaining forty two million. Now some of that is deferred, So the less of a hit to the Cardinals in that respect because they're going to be paying that out and it's deferred money. But at the same time, the Diamondbacks are essentially getting Nolan Arnatto for five million one year, six million the next. In this day and age, that's not very much at all. And the pitcher they gave up was an eighth round pick last year, Jack Martinez at Arizona State, and he wasn't listed among the Diamondbacks' top thirty prospects. I imagine hein Blue must have liked this kid out of the draft for some reason. So from the Diamondbacks perspective, it seems to be a win win and the Cardinals, as you guys discussed in the previous segment, this is the route that they're going right now. This is the direction that they're in, rebuilding and trying to put together the next great Cardinals team. It's going to be a few years. But as we've discussed before, this was kind of overdue for them. They kind of held on too long and now it's going to be a crash and they understand that. But at the same time, this is the way for them in their minds to move forward.

00:01:56
Speaker 3: Ken, what can the Diamondbacks fans expect from Aronado? Because we talked about his numbers and how the people are questioning whether he's slipped or not. And the other thing I want to know is how did the Cardinals finally get an Nolan Arnado to agree to a no trade, to waive his no trade because he fought it like hell last year, obviously declining it, and now this year he accepted the trade to Arizona.

00:02:19
Speaker 2: Well, he obviously wanted out to and he knew that. Listen, at some point he was going to have to be more flexible. And you guys mentioned Katie Who's tweet. She basically said that Ronado was told by the Cardinals, if you're more flexible, we can be more flexible with the money, and let's make this happen. And that seems to be the way this came about. And Arnado did not want to go back to Saint Louis. It was a tough place for him to hit. Now, how much better will it be in Arizona, I don't know, because here's a guy who has been in decline for a couple of years now offensively, and can he get it back? I don't know. I don't know how much he's lost. So it's going to be really interesting from that perspective to see what noa on Arnado still has left. Defensively, he's still really good, maybe not as elite as he once was, But for me, this is a good move for the Diamondbacks. It raises some questions about what's next with them, What do they do with Jordan Lawler, What do they do with Blaize ally Xander, because remember it could tell Marte is still on the Arizona Diamondbacks. They now have Arnatto a third, Perdomo is short Martey at second. They don't really have much at first base. Peven Smith is a guy who certainly can contribute there. Do they go out and sign Paul Goldschmidt as well, because they've been looking for a right handed hitting first base type. There are a number of those guys still available, so that would be quite interesting if we saw a Goldschmid Arnado reunion in Arizona kind of along those lines.

00:03:50
Speaker 4: You didn't quite hit it for me. What about that money that they possibly could have spent on Bregman? Is this a once off type of thing when we hear that possibly they are in on Bregmant, Is there another player on the market that if they were to make some moves because they still want their young players to play. Like you said, Lawler and Blaze Alexander had a quality year last year. Is that money Do you think that money's still out on the table for Kendrick the owner, not for.

00:04:18
Speaker 2: A player of Begman's caliber. They are going to do things, and there's not much question about that. They want to upgrade their bullpen. That is the area of focus right now and it has to be because if you remember, not only is Corbyn Burns recovering from Tommy John surgery, but Justin Puck I'm sorry, Justin Martinez and aj Puck are both covering from Tommy John as well, and they need help in their bullpen before those guys come back. And with Tommy John returnees, you never know exactly what you're going to get, how long it's going to take them to find their form again. So they're still looking. Are they going to spend the amount of money Eric that they would have spent on Bregman No, But at the same time, they are going to upgrade their roster. They're pretty aggressive about it, as we've seen over the years, and this Arenata move speaks to that.

00:05:12
Speaker 3: Ken, you mentioned that they wanted a right handed hitting and they're not sure what they're going to do at first base. I'm going to ask this because we've had some questions about Gaby Moreno as a catcher defensively, which that was kind of his thing when he first came up, but last year they ended up with mccannback there a lot more. Would there be some thoughts from the Diamondbacks to maybe move Moreno to a first base position and let him learn there, much like what happened with Wilson Contraz. I know, Moreno's much younger and it still has much more upside, but especially defensively, but would that be possibly a thought to help them out if they don't go get somebody.

00:05:49
Speaker 2: I have not heard that. AJ. I don't believe that they're willing to give up on Gabrielle Moreno as a catcher just yet, but I would imagine teams look at all possibilities and while this might be what a five to ten percent right now, maybe it's something in the future. And if they did that, the problem becomes, you've got to go get a catcher now. JT. Real Mutto is still out there. I mean, we're just playing connect the dots here. We're not talking about anything that we know to be serious. But that would be one issue with moving out from Moreno, especially when he was so highly regarded defensively just a couple of years ago. I don't know that he's lost it there, so I would expect that that's not going to be the solution the way it was described to me. This was before Arnado. There are a number of right handed hitting first base DH types out there, and they can go get one of them, probably at a rate that is pretty good.

00:06:45
Speaker 1: Hey, make good eats at home part of your twenty twenty six New Year's resolution.

00:06:49
Speaker 5: Hello fresh is what we're talking about.

00:06:51
Speaker 3: Here, steak, seafood, whatever options you want. They have stone fruit to corn on the cops. Got to know you're a big stone fruit fan.

00:06:59
Speaker 5: Hey, you've beaten all I have.

00:07:00
Speaker 3: I've tried a lot of things, but HelloFresh always delivers. They're fresh, delicious meals that you get to cook so you feel like you actually accomplish something when you get eat them after you're done.

00:07:11
Speaker 1: Cooking over one hundred mouth watering recipes each week. It's made with wholesome ingredients like one hundred percent antibiotic and hormone free chicken. Because when dinner tastes this good, nothing hits like home cooking. Go to HelloFresh dot com slash ft ten FM to get ten free meals plus a freeze willing knife, a one hundred and forty four ninety nine value on your third box offer a valid while supplies last free meals applied as discount on first box new subscribers only varies by a plan get America's number one meal kit, Hello Fresh.

00:07:47
Speaker 4: Based on what's happened in the last two days, Bregman, Now, obviously are not a much smaller deal. Is Kyle Tucker's decision looming closer or is there still another chip that needs to fall before Kyle Tucker's says okay? Now it's time.

00:08:02
Speaker 2: The Kyle Tucker market is active. And Will Salmon of The Athletic reported on this just today and he said that the Mets similar are in the range of three years, one hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty million. That is what sources have suggested to him. And if that's the case, and if that is their range three one twenty to one forty, then the question becomes, Okay, will the Blue Jays go beyond that? Will the Dodgers go beyond that? Well, the Mets need to raise their offer. So this particular negotiation, the one involving Tucker, with all of these clubs, seems to be coming to a head. I would not be surprised if it was this week, next week sometime soon.

00:08:43
Speaker 3: That's it. Ken's here's my reaction to what you just said. He was supposed to get four They were talking four or five hundred million. Now we're talking three years, one twenty.

00:08:52
Speaker 4: What happened?

00:08:53
Speaker 2: What? That's what the Mets we're talking? I don't know, I know, but Bucker is talking, and maybe the Blue Jays are Dodgers are willing to go longer.

00:09:01
Speaker 6: But you raise a good point aj that the Mets even being at that level, the level that sources have suggested to Will Salmon, shows you that Tucker and the demand for Tucker is not.

00:09:13
Speaker 2: What we thought it would be going into last season. He's coming off two injury marred years, not his best years because he has had injuries, nothing chronic, nothing that necessarily people need to worry about. But he's had some things happen and he hasn't had maybe the production that he had in Houston. So yeah, I don't know that he's going to get four hundred. I don't know that he was ever going to get four hundred. Could he get three hundred from a team? Is some team willing to step out longer? Of the three we've mentioned, I don't know the answer. To that is yes. Now, the Blue Jays would seem to me to be the most logical one to go long because they've got Springer and Dalton Varshow who are free agents after this season. They are going to need to supplement their outfield in some fashion. But at the same time, they've already signed Okamoto, They've done a number of other things in free agency. They seem to be in a mode right now where they are spending and spending rather freely. But all teams have limits, and is a longer term deal for Tucker where their limit is? I don't know the answer to that. But Ajau raise a great point. Where is he going to end up when the expectation was so much higher? Now, one other thing, if he does sign one of those shorter deals with opt outs, he can put together a great year this year and then do what Bregman just did and go out and to the market once again when perhaps he would do better.

00:10:41
Speaker 4: Does he need to do that? Is he a guy that needs a prove it season? He's gonna turn twenty nine here in a couple of days. Does he need to prove it? Because we just talked about yesterday, teams and agents alike. Look at the last three seasons he had a OPS plus of one one seventy nine injury shortened, I get it, and a one forty three. Because if he gets this again, like Tucker, I mean, like like Bragman, like all the guys, all the guys. Is this a way that owners are really kind of manipulating one more year of you not using your free agency because it's all paid out for all those Boris guys, which you wrote nice, very eloquently in your article.

00:11:26
Speaker 2: It's a good question, and I don't know the answer to that if it's a concerted strategy of clubs to do this. Certainly with Juan Soto that wasn't a problem. With William Donalas, it wasn't a problem. Those are the two guys who have signed longer deals in the last couple of years, along with on the pitching side to Unca Smax Freed. But with Tucker, it seems and we don't know the answer yet because we have not seen the market play out to the fullest, but it seems that the demand for him is not what we anticipated it would be, and there are reasons for that. The performance what happened in Chicago where he was kind of playing hurt, but he missed some time and it just wasn't great at the end. First half was amazing. So it seems to me it's what the market for him is possibly dictating right now. And I say possibly because he may end up seven years, three hundred. I don't know what the answer is, but Eric, if we see a pattern like this development and it continues to develop where teams are trying to squeeze players to go short, and teams have been successful at this with several players in the last couple of years in free agency, then that question would be fair. But you still have longer terms being given out just not to maybe all of the players that would have received them in the past.

00:12:49
Speaker 3: I mean, right, so far, the one Scott Boris has signed of worked out Alonzo Snell, Chetan Montgomery, but he got hurt also, so let's not forget. He also had he also had the zipper put on his arm, so he's the one guy. But most of them have worked almost all of them for Boris have worked out. What what about bo? Bo has been kind of queerly quiet even after the Bragman thing. I know he had the meeting with the Phillies, and he had and he's had some talks. But where does Bo Boschett fit Because I think if you start looking at teams now Diamondbackscott arn Nott or to fill their infield hole, right, so you start slowly losing teams for Bo Boschett, where does he fit on a team?

00:13:30
Speaker 6: Aja?

00:13:30
Speaker 2: Once again, I encourage you to read The Athletic, and I encourage you specifically today to read.

00:13:36
Speaker 3: The story of Las Vegas Athletics.

00:13:38
Speaker 5: No Athletics, that's.

00:13:41
Speaker 2: The Athletics, that is the sports publication that I work for. Matchil wrote today was just published this morning about this situation with the Phillies and how they seem to have momentum with Bouchett Bashett and they are a team that is not afraid to go along with players. They're the exception to what Eric was just talking about. They've got a number of players under longer deals and it's a separator for them, and it looks like it might be a separator for them with Bashett as well. They'll be willing to go seven years perhaps for a twenty eight to twenty nine year old Bobaschett, where other teams might not. Now will Boston react and respond to losing Bregman by going long on Boba Schett as well. It's possible, but certainly, what we've seen from the Red Sox over the last several years is that they don't like these kinds of deals and the only one they gave out Devers was an overcompensation for losing and trading Mookie Betts. So I don't see Boston necessarily doing it. It's possible. They certainly have a need for that player. They had a need for Alex Bregman. And then you ask about other teams. Could the Dodgers jump in, could the Blue Jays get back in? Maybe? But if the Phillies are the one team want to p only a handful, if the only one willing to go long, then I would expect that they're the favorite froubers chat and they certainly seem to be motivated to do this. They had the meeting yesterday, but by all accounts.

00:15:12
Speaker 5: That went well.

00:15:12
Speaker 2: These meetings always go well, and it goes beyond that. It goes to a team that wants a younger position player star they've got some older ones still, and a team that because they've been unable to sign J. T. Wil Muto might be willing to reconfigure its roster in different ways with Bishett as part of that. So if they get him, they probably almost certainly trade Alec Bohm and then we see where they go from there.

00:15:40
Speaker 4: This is called inside scoop and you're the ultimate insider. So can you confirm or deny my theory that this was a meeting with the Phillies, that the genesis came from Bobachett's camp because of the lack of interest, that the Phillies were like, we're done, and Bobachett's camp call and said we'd love to talk to you guys, and they were like, all right, cool, anytime you get to talk to an all star superstar.

00:16:09
Speaker 2: I don't know, Eric, and I will say this, that would seem to suggest that theory that the interest was more Bushette's than the Phillies, and that does not seem to be the case. The interest here seems to be mutual. Now, how it all got started, that I'm not sure of. But as we've talked about, and as Matt has written about in the Athletic, the genesis of this is the Phillies' inability to get something done with j Tuumuto and a desire that they kind of had anyway to do things a little bit differently. Remember, they've had a great team for a number of years now, but they haven't gotten quite to where they want to go, and this last elimination was particularly disappointing. And we've heard really for two years now they'd like to shake it up, and this is a good way to shake it up, right if you bring in burshett and trade boem So to overstate this coming from Burshette, I think would be a mistake. It seems to me to be mutual. And you're right, teams will always take meetings. I get that, but this late in the offseason, why would either side want to waste either side time?

00:17:20
Speaker 5: True? True?

00:17:21
Speaker 3: All right, Ken, there was a list we showed and you mentioned him, JT. Real Muttu. Everyone, I'm assuming just thinks he's gonna automatically go back to Philly, kind of like what the Bragmant thoughts were before he signed with the Cubs. We haven't heard much about him on his market. What's his market like because he's been a great player for the Phillies for a while now.

00:17:41
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Aj and I'm not exactly sure what his market is now. At one point early in the off season, the Red Sox met with him, but I don't since that he is a focus of theirs right now. I might be wrong about that, but I don't get that sense. Then you had other teams that perhaps they traded their catchers, maybe the Giants, if they would trade Patrick Bailey, then they would be a spot for jt. Real Muto, But I haven't seen any indication of that happening either. So you wonder the question is, if not the Phillies, then where And I've been asking this question in my head for a while, so is Matt or Phillies writer. So is other people, and none of us have come up with a good answer. Not to say that there isn't a market. There's always a market for good players. There's someone who's interested, but maybe not interested in the price jt ul Muto wants, because if that was the case, he would have gone by now. And if he's waiting for the Phillies to just finally meet his price, I don't know if that's going to happen. At this point. We're sitting here on January thirteenth and they're talking to Boba Schett.

00:18:48
Speaker 4: Last one, where do they pivot to if it not JT. Because there's not anybody on the market that's JT's caliber. Do they make a trade and is there significant interest in other catchers where teams will be willing to get rid of them.

00:19:04
Speaker 2: That's another good question. And Eric Victor Kartini as a free agent, is still out there, probably more of a backup at this point in his career. They've got the other catcher machine or not him, another catcher, the backup that they have. His name is escaping me right now. They trade for a guy like Ryan Jeffers, and there are some catchers who will be available in Trey. I'm sure they can do some things along those lines. But to your point, and you guys know this as former catchers, there is a lot of value to JT. Real Muto with that staff. In particular, he's caught that staff. They're accustomed to him. They like him because he is one of the best catchers in the game. He thinks along with him very well. There's a real connection between j. T. Real Muto and a number of their pitchers. So if they do not sign him, certainly there is a loss there no matter who they bring in, but I'm quite certain they would bring in someone else.

00:20:04
Speaker 5: Ken good stuff. Appreciate it. A lot to go. I think a lot more to go this week, so we'll talk to you later this week.

00:20:11
Speaker 2: Thanks guys.

00:20:26
Speaker 5: Where will bo go?

00:20:28
Speaker 3: Nobody knows?

00:20:29
Speaker 4: Apparently the song.

00:20:30
Speaker 1: Continues, so John Hayman tweeted that the meeting went well.

00:20:36
Speaker 5: When do they not?

00:20:38
Speaker 1: Bashett admires first class organization other Plus's roster park maddingly link spring proximity to home with the Phillies, need to deal bowm do lesser catcher than J. T. Hayman, says, other bow suitors, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers more.

00:21:00
Speaker 5: What's gonna happen here? Nobody knows. Nobody knows.

00:21:05
Speaker 3: Even Ken Rosenthaler inside Scooper doesn't know.

00:21:08
Speaker 5: Of course, you know, I want to cue this clip because my thing is.

00:21:12
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, the Phillies they don't have an immediate fit, so it kind of goes back to a cratz ass. Ken is with Stott and Boem and Trey Turner and Bryce. Okay, their infield is kind of set unless they make a move of one of those guys, and then they would okay, but then they okay. So let's say they do sign bow, they move bom okay, then they BO plays third. I guess mm hmm, okay, fine, but then you probably not bringing back JT. So then you got to go get a catcher. There's a lot of pieces of this. That's why I asked the other day, where does he fit on teams? When you start digging through teams without moves having to be made, and there's there's that's where the market is like, it's interesting, especially if he's not gonna play short stop. Shortstop is a different animal, but if he's playing second, it's a different market.

00:21:58
Speaker 5: It is, but all of those teams make sense. They just might have to do some maneuvering.

00:22:02
Speaker 1: On the Phillies topic, the Phillies Show, part of the Ft Network, discussed how this recruiting is being put together by the Phillies organization and there are always players involved for the superstars, but they might actually be pushing some of their friends out.

00:22:19
Speaker 2: I think it was.

00:22:20
Speaker 4: Hayman reported that Phillies players have been texting Boba shit.

00:22:27
Speaker 3: JT is one of the most beloved guys in that club.

00:22:30
Speaker 4: Posse has everybody's back, I can't believe that sits well with him hearing that.

00:22:36
Speaker 7: No, I don't know if the players really understand that it's an either or thing.

00:22:40
Speaker 8: Necessarily. They don't care about that. They they think that there's a good player out there to get they're trying to go get it. I don't think that that's a decision for them, and I don't think that they really think about that. I know that is when I was a GM I want to player, just wanted more players to play with.

00:22:57
Speaker 7: They have a better team, and I don't know that they know who they know like all the ins and outs, and it doesn't necessarily does it.

00:23:04
Speaker 5: Preclude that's the real big question.

00:23:06
Speaker 7: If they get something done with him, does it preclude them signing JT. And that's like the bazillion dollar question literally pun intended, because it's gonna blow a lot of numbers out of the water for.

00:23:21
Speaker 5: The Phillies as far as their payroll is concerned.

00:23:25
Speaker 1: If they acquire Bobashett, if they sign him, they likely trade Alec Bohm and there's a little bit of money savings there. I'm actually still in the camp that money does grow on trees. For Phillies owner John Middleton, and that he would bring back JT. O real Muto and sign Bobachett in the right circumstance. But for more, let's go to our Pennsylvania reporter Eric Kratz to get his thoughts. Eric, do you think there is any case where Bobaschett signs with the Phillies and J. T.

00:23:53
Speaker 5: Ro Muto also signs with the Phillies? Or is it one or the other.

00:23:57
Speaker 1: JT apparently does doesn't have the crazy market out there, and he knows he's towards the later stages of his career. He probably only wants to go to certain places. But it's not like they're about to sign him to one hundred million dollars. I don't even think he's getting fifty million dollars. And again, I know this is massive money, But for the Phillies, is it massive money.

00:24:17
Speaker 4: When you start talking about that luxury tax threshold, you know, putting them in the one hundred and ten percent threshold. Boem will be a free agent after this year. I think clearly, if something would happen with bo Bom being gone and then you're locking down the left side of your infield or even Statts, free agency isn't that far away. In two years, you know, maybe bo could move to second, Maybe Stott, who's been versatile, could move to third. I don't know how that works in that sense. But last offseason, all the trades about, all the talk about Alec Bohm could be traded, could be traded. Teams are calling about him. So I think they have a rolodex of teams that called about Alec Bohm.

00:25:00
Speaker 5: It wasn't the Phillies.

00:25:02
Speaker 4: Actively shopping them. And to me, most likely situation, they don't sign Bow, they signed JT back. Least likely they signed bo and not JT. And so in the middle, I would say second place, they signed JT for a two year deal, probably somewhere in the thirty six range. I think that's that's probably what you know. He'd probably like three years forty seven ish. I think they don't want to go that high. They don't want to stretch it out too long. He is a catcher. But to me, I think they need him back. Here's here's my theory. Sign Bow, move Boem to first for one year. Harper caught in high school. Have Harper catch for one year Boom. You got your whole team.

00:25:52
Speaker 3: Okay, now that we're playing fantasy Land. Now we're playing dungeons and dragons stranger things. Here's why I think the Phillies can sign both. What's happening at the end of this year, CBA, what's more than likely going to happen.

00:26:07
Speaker 1: I don't think that, Are you gonna say, cap No, I think I think the luxury tax will go up.

00:26:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think the number will go up.

00:26:15
Speaker 3: And I bet you there will be a provision in there. And I don't know this, but I'm thinking this is me spitballing here. The Union will go to the owners and say to new CBA, everyone gets auto reset for the luxury tax because you know, if you go over it keeps multiplying.

00:26:33
Speaker 5: Right.

00:26:34
Speaker 3: So if I'm the Phillies, I say, okay, we signed bo we signed JT. We only have to eat it for possibly one year CBA new one. It reloads the luxury tax numbers and they're probably gonna go up. So Boem's a free agent at the end of the year. Okay, then they can make some other moves if they have to, to try to clear some money up if they need to. But for the next year or two years, they have Harper schwar where they have basically the band back together and you had boba shit.

00:27:01
Speaker 1: I think the league's gonna try and have stricter penalties on the soft salary cap that exists right now, and so there is concerned from teams like the Phillies that who knows, maybe it turns into one hundred and fifty tax on the dollar and it starts to get ridiculous.

00:27:15
Speaker 3: Then you have almost a hard cab and the union's not gonna want that.

00:27:18
Speaker 5: I agree, but I mean just throwing it out there.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: There's only certain teams that go there anyways. And then the teams that do go there at times say oh we got a reset, so they trade a bunch of guys away, and then they rescind and then they go for The Yankees tried it right, the Red Sox tried it right. Some of these teams try. Now there's teams like the Dodgers you just don't give a fuck. Yeah, they're like, we make so much money, we don't care.

00:27:38
Speaker 5: I like those teams, of course, but the Phillies are close to them that they really go for it. And that's why I don't think.

00:27:45
Speaker 3: Dave Dombrowski has a history of and we kind of talked about this on our production meeting.

00:27:49
Speaker 5: Uh huh?

00:27:49
Speaker 3: Is he goes long term to get these stars and if he dials in on a star, he goes and gets them. Trade Turner right star. But all these guys, like if he believes in this guy's swerver, if he's like this guy's a starring, can definitely help us get to the World Series and have a chance. Here sht us a miss.

00:28:06
Speaker 1: He also likes to get things done, and this has been frustrating because it's taking a while for them to figure out the real Muto situation.

00:28:14
Speaker 5: Hey, that's JT's right. He's in free agency.

00:28:17
Speaker 1: Maybe a team swoops in, But I do think they want to start getting to move on finishing up the pieces of their offseason.

00:28:30
Speaker 5: I told you we'll be back. Bet. I'm jam futures regular season win total Mariners. We're doing ninety point five because that's the actual over under ninety and a half for the Mariners. Are you going over or under this year?

00:28:43
Speaker 3: I'm going under. I'm going eighty eight.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: Well, explain yourself. Why do you think that they will slightly underachieve?

00:28:52
Speaker 3: I don't think that the col will have as great as a year sixty Homers is really hard to do again. Their starting rotation started showing knicks last year, guys going down in their offense. I know they brought back Naylor, but they don't have Suarez there for n't less they resign them. But I just I don't know. Eighty eight Houston, I feel like might be a little bit better. Anaheim should be a little bit better. Texas can't be as bad as they were again.

00:29:17
Speaker 5: Why, I just don't think they will be okay.

00:29:20
Speaker 3: And so I think eighty eight is a good number. Eighty eight probably might win that division.

00:29:24
Speaker 5: That's true. Crat's where you're going.

00:29:29
Speaker 4: I just don't think much is changed in this division. I think the division is very similar. I think they didn't get to ninety so I have last year, and they're all because of the travel, I guess is the reason they're gonna have swoons where they just just crater like their East coast their East coast trip last year when I think they came to Philly Atlanta played some good teams, but they just lost every one of the games and they look listless. So no, I'm gonna say under and I think that I think I might actually still pick them to win the division. I just don't think the divisions changed that much.

00:30:06
Speaker 1: I guess I was gonna say the Astros have added some starting pitching depth, but they also are losing.

00:30:14
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:30:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they also brought into my Yeah, but I don't.

00:30:20
Speaker 3: Think Christian Walker will be as bad as he was last year. They have a four year with Korea. He wasn't dead, he was, that's not Alvarez won't be out all year. Hopefully that's a big one allegedly. So I just think I don't know. I think there's some hater. Hopefully he's back for the year. Bray you they make some move. I just I don't I think eighty eight.

00:30:43
Speaker 5: Is the number. Actually, this is the easiest way to put it.

00:30:47
Speaker 1: I know you're both probably not touching this one among the many others that you really like or don't like, because that's that's just too close. If you're if Crats is in that range and you're feeling eighty eight, that generally means look elsewhere. So anyway, let's talk about any sport parlay boost token that you can get involved with. On the bet MGM app, players will receive one to start the new year off right. Maybe you used it already, but if you haven't, you can add that wager and it's got to be any sport wager to a bet slip to activate the token. It doesn't have to be obviously in a particular sport only you can combine a little football, little basketball, a little hockey, and if you win that wager with the token, you get extra winnings. That's how the little boost works. You know, the deal, gambling problem or concern, there's help called winning hundred Gambler