#317 - Deana Carter on Special Re-Issue of ‘Did I Shave My Legs For This?’ With New Collabs on ‘Strawberry Wine’ + Writing You and Tequila” that Kenny Chesney Made a No. 1 + Randy Travis Singing Demos In Her House As A Kid

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Episode three seventeen. Dina Carter is on with us. Obviously Strawberry Wine talk about that writing you in tequila. Fun fact she recorded it how Canny Chess and he ended up getting that song to record later on. She put it on the record too, So then that's one of my favorite songs period in country music. You went tequila make me crazy. I'm pretty good singing that too, don't pretty good? Thank you? Also Randy Randy Travis ing and demos at our house. Interesting story. So all coming up from Dina Carter. I do want to do my top five releases of the week. Morgan Evans has a new song called Country out of My Girl you Can't See the Country, but which we had in last week at number three and people were like, hey, why was audio different on the number three last week because we were gonna put that there, but then it didn't come out for some reason. Came out this week now, so we bumped at the fives to show what's up, just to show who the boss is. Number four. Taylor Acorn has a new song called Uncomfortably Numb with the band named Arrows in Action. It's a pop punk song. Here you go, you see in all the breads out of Scummy in the set song tell Me When did this? Stumpy and fun and uncomfortably numb. At number three, Mickey Guyton put out a record called Remember Her Name, and this one's called Different. That's what makes You Differ one and a billion. It kind of feels good that difference. At number two, Ryan Heard has a new song called tab with My Name on It from his upcoming album that comes out October. Here you Go when It's with my Name on It? And the number one Larry Fleet, who I Love. I had the guy over at the house. He did the talk show we did on Twitch. Yeah. Man, that guy's good. Huh really good. He has a new album out the people are going crazy about called Stack of Records. Here's a clip of the title track if you want to know. So there you go. Those are the five releases that I'm recommending you check out This week. In Music News, Walker Hayes lands in the Hot one hundred top five. I mean can't stop, can't stop it. They can try, They've tried. They can't stop it. Yeah, you can't. He released a remix with Kesha I haven't heard the Kesha one of You. I have. Yeah, I won't pull it up. I can listen it later. You like it, I mean, is it just Kesha on the yah hook pretty much makes it a lot more pop friendly for pop stations. Good for Walker, that's life changing for him. I mean that's life changing money. The Apple Beets commercial, the pop streams. That was cool to see seeing him on that commercial is life changing. Just so pumped. Put that dumb down. Take me to waffle House means chilling in the deep sound Casey Musgraves and Brandy Carlyle or set for Saturday Night Live. They're gonna both play that show, not together, but they're both gonna play the show. Let's see albums out today. Just I'll mention some Third Eye Blind, Angels and Airwaves both I mentioned because Third Eye Blind from being a kid and Angel Airwaves is kind of blank one D two yeah side project Yeah um. Randy Travis has a special edition thirty fifth anniversary of Storms of Life Natalie and Brulia. A lot of this is old school stuff. Do you remember her? Yeah? Secknd inn ap tune, Oh little, I'm already to un damn it do. But yeah, that's a jam um Okay, I think that's it. We'll get to this Dina Carter interview. Check out the Ashley McBride one if you didn't check it out last week. It's great. It's just a plus stuff there. They actually reached out to me and said, hey, would you give us a quote for something to do with the c m as and Ashley McBride, And I said, sure, quote about her? Yeah, you want to hear my quote I put in there. Let me scroll real quick. I'm pretty proud of it. Find it. I said, Ashley McBride did not compromise her credibility for commercial success. She earned her credibility and now the commercial success has no choice but to come chasing her and it can't run fast enough. Good quote. Come on, come on, that's part of the waiting a minute for me to scroll through my email. Okay, that's the deal, you guys. Check out that one from last week. Thanks for checking out this one this week. Uh. Here's Dina Carter Inage a second in studio at Dena Carter Who And I say this because so many people call me the wrong name. I get called Bobby Jones all the time. And I'll do and sometimes I'll do a TV show and you know in the little description box, what's like on American Idol this week? But Bobby Jones, and it happens so often. I have to think that people who don't know you like I do, or they're a big fan of you, would be like, here's Deanna Carter, like is that all the time, all the time. And we've kind of fixed it. On the website and on socials we put it's d e e e E n A. It's Deana, And people do put two ends in my name, so it's Dan, It's Dean d E A N with an A on the end. I never thought about it like that, Yes, that it's like the name Dean. Yeah, like Dean Martin, that that's my dad. Um. Around the time I was born, he had a cut on a Dean Martin record called it just happened that way, ironically that Jimmy Bowen produced, who signed me at Capital. So that's why my name is spelled like it is. I was at the I've done some comedy at the Governor's Mansion in Arkansas a few months ago, and on it was a big deal. Bobby on the place card said Bobby Jones, Oh my gosh. And so when you were coming in. I was like, I bet she gets it all the time like I do from people who just don't. For me. My name is so dumb that they go, there's no way that's Bobby. That's not his real name. But you mentioned your dad. Your dad was a studio musician back in the day. Yeah, was he what was he a guitar player? Yes, he was part of the A team in Nashville on the road. So he played on so many records in Nashville and in the sixties and seventies, mostly UM, and he also signed. He would work with artists, you know, he would like Randy Travis was in our living room doing demos before he had a deal, which is really the first guy. Always liked rock as a young person, as a teenager. And when I heard Randy Travis's voice in my house, like my job at fourteen or whatever was bringing the coffee in the cream and you know, host whoever was there, and um, when I heard him down the hall, I was just like, wow, this person. And so I thought he was going to be about seven feet tall and this big guy, you know, because his voice was so massive. And I walked in and this just very humble guy. I was standing there, you know, small framed. I mean, Randy was a tiny little guy back in the day when he was getting started, and I was mesmerized by his voice, and so I really started paying attention to country on my own after that. And John Anderson, my dad helped him early on. He would come like at nineteen, was coming to the house, and just a lot of people. But he also played on records like, um, all the Simon Garfuncle things like Bridge Over Trouble Water and the Box There, all that guitar workers my dad on and the Bob Dylan the Skyline record, and like Joan Baias and all these other artists that would come through town would hire my dad because he had just such an amazing sound. He kind of stood out from the rest of the guy us and um, he just plays. He's like played on the soundtrack of Our Lives, you know, across all genres. So I grew up with a very broad influence. Levon Helm speaking of Arkansas, he and my dad played with Ronnie and Dale Hawkins respectively and kind of started the band, and Robbie Robertson took my dad's place in the band. So a lot of very rich very southern, that Delta history and feel musically that would uh permeate all the records that he played on. You mentioned Randy Travis. I can go back for a second. He's in your house singing demos, his own demos or demos for other people. Like what what was he doing? Just songs like that my dad had written or UM. I think it was some things he had brought in. You know, he's wanting to get things on tape, and back then it was lit legit tape and it was a two big real yeah. And my dad had in a Kai, one of those eight VHS ones. And so I was into gear too, like I'm a geared nerd as far as studio goes, and just being around all of that. He had a studio growing up north of town like all the guys did back then, Ohen Bradley and Johnny Cash, everybody had a studio off the row as well. So I grew up in a full fledged recording studio where people would come in they recorded, I'm not Lisa there recorded. Uh. He produced Sammy Smith's UM help Me Make It through the Night. You know, all these great songs and monumental writers that would come through. He just he was such a lover of songwriters and artists and just like, would you know, love them and and try to help them along their path. Was being so close to country music? What kept you from loving country music when you were a kid. I think part of it was that our our kim people, you know, would come from Louisiana and Mississippi and all around, and they want to go to the grandel Opry, the Hall of Fame and the Hermitage, and so my brother and I were like, not the Hermitage, not the opera, you know, because you just would go with them. And I don't know, I think I appreciated it. You know. I love Dolly Parton. I was a big fan of her and being a little bitty kid and watching her except her awards, I'd sit there with my tissue and cry with her. You know. I just thought she was so inspirational. And Eddie Arnold I met him later in life, and he was just such a gentleman, I mean, just suave. He was so he was this, you know, giant man that was just this gentle giant and his voice was amazing, and I think I just I loved that they crossed over as well, you know, I came up in the era of UM, the Variety Show. Everybody had a TV show that was musical and and so I was connecting things visually pretty early. Um the effect that that had, and that the pool in the draw and the outreach that that had for a very large audience outside of Nashville as well. Just respected the fact that they could sing and dance and do skits and be funny and and be great you know musically. Yeah, you had you really had to focus on more than just one thing, you know, back in the day. Yeah, I mean we used to watch and my grandmother had some old tapes of Johnny Cash's UH show from the Rheyman. I think it was shot in the Rieman if I'm thinking back. Um. But then even watching like Hehaw and I still watch HEV on now on Circle Network because they I'll flip through us on Peacock and so and I do the opery. I produced that the opera show over there on the TV on the TV. I sound like I'm but they had those They had to be so good at so many things. They were funny, they could play, they could sing, they could act, and that was just accepted as well. You got to do this to be well rounded in Nashville. Yeah, it was great. The timing, their timing was impeccable. And I think, you know, after my record came out in ninety six and then seven and eight, we were touring and busy and it was just amazing and crazy. I started getting offers to go to l A and beyond TV shows and do like King of the Hill and um, do some movies and things, and so I moved out there to pursue that because of my roots system in watching artists out of Nashville have such a broad reach on TV. And but the it wasn't like my show, you know, it was like spread myself a little thin trying to do all these things. And I think that that hurt me a little bit, leaving town, leaving the community that I love so much. I mean, I'm from born and race here in Nashville, and um, it's hard when you're not here, if you're not in the circle and being a part of the community, you know, and they're always open arms for you to come back and be a part of it. But um, the TV era just kind of went away, and I'd love to see it come back. I would love to see it a new he Hall. I would love to see some programming for artists in a variety kind of way. And we have the voice and we have you know, things that involve artists in the music business. But it just be fun to do it more theatrically in the way they do it like Carol Burnett ish, you know, like they used to. He has a great example. Yeah, there's not really a new buck Owings. You could do it, and I watch buck Owings now and I'm my only crap. The guy could do it. Obviously, could sing play. He's so funny. He's so funny. It's so funny. Yeah, you mentioned the record, which is really the reason we're here. We'll talk about more than that. But um, nineties six the record came out. It's been twenty five years, and so by the time this has heard on Friday, I will have already talked about the announcement on the radio show. But that being said, let's act like no one's heard it, Okay, So tell me, tell me exactly what is happening. Well, we are celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of I Shave my Legs for this the album, and it came out September three, actually of n was the release date, and I got to go in and re record Strawberry one and did I shave my legs for this, those two songs with collaborations, and I wanted to pull in some girls, some artists that I felt like had either mentioned me or acknowledged me or something my songs through their songs, you know. So we invited a couple of girls to come on board, and Vince Gill played guitar on these two tracks. Um, being the kid of a guitar player, I was like, Okay, my dad's not around, so we gotta go with the next best thing. And Vince is just incredible. So and Vince was monumental in my um the launch of that record initially back in nine because he came down to tow our records on West End and in the back of the room and you could just when we had an in store to celebrate the release of the album, and you could just hear the room go, you know, and Vince was standing back there, like just him being there was an endorsement to what we were doing. So I always told him, we're going to do something together. And I'm a man of my word. Yeah, this is it. It's like I told you we were going to give you the exclusive when we do it. It was a few years back, and then we're like, here we are, so we have to go to Bobby first. I told him we would, So here we are. It's Vince. I can say who's on the song, right, Okay, it's Vince, Martina McBride, Lauren Elena, Ashley McBride, and Kylie Morgan. Yeah, that's on Strawberry. That's on Strawberry specifically because Vince is playing the guitar there. And so, I mean it's a pretty so like group. I'm sure nobody said I don't know, let me check on my people. I'm sure they all ran screaming yes to you to do this. Well. It was amazing because I got to work with Actually, Lisa Lee organized um a performance on a c M Honors a couple of years ago with Ashley McBride and Laurena. Lena and Ashley was brand new at the time and just blew it, like knocked it out the park and we got to perform together. And then Lauren had released her you know nineties song that was kind of a tip in the hat to Strawberry wine, which is really cool. So having them on board was the perfect combo and Martina. Of course, Martina came out before I did, and I used to look up to her so much. She just again this little bitty person with this giant voice, and she was very unique when she came out and helped the genre kind of progress. So I had to have her part of it. And Kylie more going to be in a brand new artist. Her voice is so unique and cool, we wanted her to be a part of it too. The did I shape my Legs for this has events. It has Terry Clark, Sarah Evans and also Ashley mcbrian and so do I why that group for that song? Well, I've worked with Sarah and Terry you know, through the years, and they're kind of I consider them we're all from the same era, and what I love about them their uniqueness, how they stand out artistically, and their sense of humor, and just seeing Ashley's sense of humor as well, and her kind of following suit in that way and her songwriting just blows me away as far as her what she has to say, you know, in such a unique way. So and that is representative of shapes, so I wanted to make sure that she was included in that. So it's it is a select few, which is cool. When will those singles be out? Well, we are still figuring it out. Yeah we are. We're going we're actually sending a thank you to to radio. Can I say that no one's listening to me and you okay, it's October nineteenth that we're going to be sending out sort of an unofficial you know, here you go, thank you so much, and I've like pounding my fists on the table. We cannot leave radio out of the mix because they're the reason that the fans got to hear the song in the first place. They were willing to back when we answered phones, and you know, they're they're blowing up, very receptive, to the point that all the regionals, we're getting calls from the station saying, you got to scrap this other single we were planning on releasing, which was I've loved enough to know and you've got to go a strawberry wine. So Scott Hendricks listened to the radio folks and put Strawberry out instead, and the rest is history. So you have to go and thank them. We cannot do this like and leave radio out of the mix. How far did you get with that other single, which one the first one that you mentioned, Oh, not at all. It didn't even we pulled it before release date. It was two weeks prior. So I was going out and mom and radio visits. But no, it hadn't been released to radio yet. And so you do all the promo going hey, it's coming, and then you have to call him back and go okay, never mind, okay, So why Strawberry Wine? What was it about that song that kind of took over? Was it playing it live? Was it it was we would play I've Loved Enough to Know. We already had a video in the can, We had all these cassettes, you know, for everybody, and um, then I'd pick up my guitar and play Strawberry Wine, maybe before we ever heard of buy something acoustic in the studio and everybody was just going bananas over Strawberry Wine. And that's what made the phones light up, like, well, wait, what was that song? And I've Loved Enough to Know was like this up tempo, happy song, and Strawberry was just this very heartfelt, honest, six minute waltz, you know, and I thought, in my heart, this may be the only time people hear this song because it's never going to get played on the radio from a new artist, A six minute waltz, you know about your first I don't think so, So I'm going to get it in while we can. And it just really resonated with the fans when you say six minute waltz. The song wasn't six minutes long, was it? Yeah? It really was almost, wasn't it five seven? That's why I didn't know that would never happen today. I mean even the version that I played now, because I'll still played on our show sometimes they've cut it down to three and a half minutes at this point, no outro um, but you know it was. It was just groundbreaking for the time. I can't believe the song was almost six minutes long. That's a that's a song when I was doing early in radio and we had to actually put in disks and stuff. You're trying to find a five and a half minutes so long to go to the bathroom, and so you I would find like an old Matchbox twenty song from my first record that on it was way long. But that sounds like one of those songs that like the radio person could stick in no, people would like it and they could go pee and get back in time exactly. That probably helped me a lot, right, Yes, absolutely, And there's a lot of money that the label has to give up because they've are like you said, they've already made a bunch of promotional materials. Yeah, for sure. And so you're going, hey, all the money you just spend on that song, and we were gonna go with we need you to get just write that off and let's start over. How hard was was that conversation though, to get them to go, Okay, we believe in what you're saying and what you're seeing. It was harder for them to convince me to change it. Scott Hendricks called me on the road in Texas. I was in the car with my regional at the time, and he said, Dina, everybody's resonating with strawberry wine. We got to change the single. And I had already waited like four years. It had been such a long haul up to this point, and I said, no, we're two weeks out, no way, And uh, I said, if you promised me that we can stay on schedule and you can get this turned around in two weeks so I don't get bumped again. Then I'm all for it. And he said, we'll make it happen. And Scott Hendricks was a hero because he did that. He pulled everything, didn't he He pulled everything and just like fast forward, just hot box the whole process and made it happen on delivery day and get a bump to the thing. Because if you lose your spot, you know, they've got an other artists and other single so they have lined up. Yes, absolutely, so he still made that spot happen. He did, and it even happened when we had five females coming on that Tuesday, the same day we had it was me, Reba Martine or excuse me, um, Kathy Mattea. I want to say, maybe Mila Mason and Mindy McCready or I can't even remember who it was, but it was five women. You know, it's like you're at the race track, you're on the horse and you're all getting waiting for the gun to go so you can just take off. And it was unheard of to have five women coming on that day, some new artists and established artists, you know, and see how the the race was gonna turn out. What was the rise of that song, Like, was it Holy Moley, this is rolling quick or was it okay just hanging there slow and steady. It was slow. I think it was sixteen weeks to chart, well, not even be number one, to just hit the top, wasn't it. It might have been that it took sixteen weeks to climb the chart. But it was slow going in the beginning. And then Alan Jackson took us on the road and that was amazing. We got to do major arenas and be with him, and we saw a few lighters flickering on Strawberry Wine, and then a few more and a few more, and as we went, like a year and a half on the road with him solid it was really taken off and um, So it was slow in the beginning, and then it was just like wildfire amazing and we came right behind Strawberry Wine with which was a number one UM with we danced anyway with the cool video and that went number one. And then how Do I Get There was the first song on country radio to have a drum loop in it, kind of a funky feel um and that went number one, and then count Me In went up the chart, you know, to number two, I believe and then shave. So it's five singles for a new artist off the first record, which was had never happened in Nashville before. Let's roll through some of those Milay, a little bit strawberry wine. It's funny. I'm sure you have to hear this, Dina at times and places you're changing your oil or your you know, Kroger, and you just hear because this, this the song is everywhere. You know. What do you ever just wanted pointing yourself? I was playing to be like, hey, guys, this is me, this is me the song you're all singing too? Right here? Or have you ever been somewhere someone's covering it? Oh? Yes, and maybe they don't know you're in the crowd, you know. I was. I posted something on socials a couple of years ago because we were driving down Broadway, which is rare. We're just on this side road over by the Palm at a red Law, and I heard this girl upstairs in the open air sports bar up there singing it, and I'm like, stop the car, and I get out of the car and I run up there and I'm standing watching her and she freaking We got it all on camp. You know, she freaks out and I went up and hugged her and it was just like a super moment for both of us. That was really cool on Broadway to hear someone covering it up. So that's pretty cool that you heard. Cool, but cool for her too that you happen to be driving by and then you ran up the stairs to kind of acknowledge her. So crazy. And the thing that I am just in love with right now is TikTok and being able to do duets and and thumbs up people and seeing all the love. But there's a lot of TikTok people singing Strawberry Wine. It's millions, millions, Like I'm going, there's where all my people are, you know, I feel like that I've finally found. I just joined two weeks ago and there's millions. So people sing that. Because I've worked on American Idol the last four years, they will sing that auditioning because it's an arena to showcase your voice. I mean, not only is that a great song, but you hit some notes in that song that are that everybody can't hit. And so I heard that song a lot too, and I think That's why it's probably saying a lot on TikTok is because if you can sing that and sing it right, you'll get the wow because it's a tough song to sing it is. I love it. I love even people that aren't singers or you know that are just in their bedroom just trying it out. The innocence of that, like that touches my heart so much. And then you've got like Raleigh Green covered it, and um just all the people that have covered the song it's and have made statements about, you know, what it meant to them in their career. These artists coming out, it's just been super cool. And the record went up and it's sold over five million albums for a new artist that was it just broke all these records, not even on purpose. It's like the proof that authenticity and honesty and your your story resonates with someone's story. You know that. That is really the crux of the whole thing for me is that song was written like Matraca Bergen Carrie and Gary Harrison wrote the song And when I heard it, if I was going to have to do outside songs, I was like, oh my god, this is my life. How do they know, how do they know? I had a grand my grandparents had a farm and first love and all that stuff, you know, And they just poetically said the truth so beautifully that I could not sing it. It was my story, and it turned out to be millions of people's story. Dan and Shay have tequila, and they get tequila everywhere they go, not because they want it, because everyone's like, well, they have a song about tequila, so let's just shower or pummel them with tequila. Was there a time when it was people giving you strawberry wine everywhere you went? Or is that still a thing? It's still a thing, still a thing. Like I'm so happy Rose came out because it kind of emulates strawberry wine. You know, the hue of it is uh fun and yummy and and it works. It's it's a little better. I have to tell you, though. I did find some strawberry wine in Ohio at a vineyard. We had a gig out there that was amazing, and like sixty people were at this show. So on the way home, I saw the vineyard, I'm like, let's pull in. We tried it and they had strawberry wine, and I brought home bottles of Strawberry wine, which it's been decades, but it's really good. It's verse I Venue VERSI Vineyard in Ohio. It's so good when that song was was at its peak and you have all these number ones. I mean, was there ever ever a moment where you're singing that song you look out of the crowd and you're like, this venue or this show or this is happening right now, Like it's kind of unbelievable. Absolutely, I still feel that way. It never gets it never gets old. I'm so humbled watching people sing it. That's what gets me because it could little kids like four year olds or seventy year olds. It is such a generational thing that connects everybody. It's just unbelievable. I can't even believe that it's it's just like keeps going and going. It's amazing. Uh we danced anyway might be my favorite, not the Strawberry Way. It's not just here, same record, but I think this this one is my favorite. Yeah, so you put this out second. It's amid. I called it. I called a mid tempo song. Yeah you know what did the label go? Hey, we need to switch stuf and go with an up tempo or because to go with a slow song and then amid again kind of a risk. Yes, why did they choose this is the second single when it wasn't even gonna be the first. You know, he's going to have gone back to the first one. I think it was just it was a reprieve from the the storyline of Strawberry One, like it was the follow up with a good, feel feel good love song. Yeah, the message was lighthearted, and I think the production the music was lighthearted. The video we didn't send Juan, you know, like vacation and just let your hair down, and it was important to have that kind of follow up to Strawberry Wine and show the lighter side of me. It was pretty genius in my opinion, to come with it that way. You know, it's like sequencing the album. I always prioritize it being a rollercoaster ride, right, You want the music to take you in different directions, and we do it with the set list when we play shows, make sure that we're not too balad e in the middle or whatever, and so sequencing the record was like that. The releases of the singles are like that's very very thought out, and um, I guess it's you know, a communal decision with the label and me and and us talking about it. The label was so monumental in the success of this record. They worked hard and they did a great job. Follow that up with another number one? How do I get there? Get this? How I tell So this is the first number one that you've written though, which had to be satisfying, because you've got two number one. That's amazing. You're first of all, you have your hit, then you're not a one hit wonder, and now you have a song that you wrote that hit number one. Yes, I gotta imagine that feels pretty good, amazing, really amazing, and it it felt good because I've I've really wanted that drum loop on the song because I've never heard it on country radio. Like I feel rhythm in two and four, I don't feel it in one and three, and country music can sometimes be very like one and three oriented, just traditional um four on the floor rhythms, and I don't I feel like I call it I have funky, but I can't help it, like that's how I feel music. And it was really important to fight to have the not to fight, but I mean this too creatively. Make sure that that drum loop was heard on country radio, and and it was, and I think people just resonated with the feel being again lighthearted and following up dance anyway with that, and I think it if honestly, I think that was a marker on country radio that kind of hit the trajectory for artists to step out a little bit and come in. You know. We had instrumentation that was reflective of seventies rock, the guitar solos and things like that, the sounds I'd bring in references from Bread and Journey or whatever, because I wanted this record to represent me as a whole person. You know, in country music is part of it, but also funky, but it's part of it, and also red fro rock is part of it. And I just think people really connected with the fact that it was sort of this corny copy ofs of fields and sounds and stuff. Did you ever get the tag, hey, she's doing things different, this is a country I did get that early on UM, but you put my voice on it and it pulls it right back in. You know. I don't have the luxury of being vocally talented like Marion Morris and a lot of these saying, you know people that just can sing different genres and knock it out. Um, you put my voice on anything and it's going to be straight down the pike country pretty much. You know, this happens a lot now. I just did a whole thing I take talk about people are sounds that are told, hey, this is not country, and then how we look at it now and go of obviously that was country. I mean even the drums, the drums weren't country forever. They weren't allowed on the opery stage until you know, it was from the drums to you know, Johnny Cash was too rock and roll. He wasn't. You know, there's always been ok at Elvis. I mean we could do a hundred deep right, and every generation you have that group of that ain't country Garth for example. I mean I've sat with Garth and Garths like, hey man, I had the biggest group of that ain't country people against me because you know, one he said his stage shows and too you know, he was crediting people like Journey like all these the same kind of band you mentioned as influences in him, and people said, well, that's not country. But what happens is if the format ever stays the same generationally, anything, If anything stays the same, it dies, you know. Even with with you talking about the drum loop. You know, Nico Moon as a guy, as a new artist, now who put you know, put drums on like real drums that it's like, you know what, I want to loop this instead, And he had the number one song and he was like, people were telling me I shouldn't do that, but it's cyclical, right, Like you had this similar situation with you where you're like, I just like this loop, let's do this next thing, you know, boom number one and then everybody goes oh, of course, but at the time it probably wasn't the easiest decision. It wasn't and but it fits the song, you know, that was the thing. It really fit the feel. And I'm very glad that that we did that because I do think that it sort of helped the genre expand and breathe a little bit, you know. And the thing about the nineties that is so amazing is that we had so many artists that sounded so different. You know, there was room for everybody, and I mean you had duos and you had bands, and you had all the girls sounded unique and there was so you weren't really competing with one another. It was just a matter of when your song is gonna go up and the other ones coming down, and vice versa. Right to make room for everybody. And we were all touring on the road and we'd pull over our buses and have flying jay parties and it was a real community that um and it was before obviously social media and you know, I mean cell phones were coming in early on. It was just we see beat it on the road and would meet and just it was very intentional to be together as a community of artists on these massive shows and festivals and things, but and to support each other in the community, supported you know, all the labels. It was like we would vote for them and they'd vote for us, and you know, it was just this win when time on the row and in town. I just I'm so grateful to being a part of it. I just still pinched myself being from Nashville, that that I've had any success at all, because it could have gone the other way. Were there any artists or a single artist that said, hey, DNA, like I'm gonna mentor you in a way. I've been around town for five ten years got some success, Like, let me give you a little bit of advice, um, or did you even need it since you had been here? Because that's that's a rare thing that someone who grew up here stays here and then becomes super successful. I think, as I asked that question, you're kind of a you know, corn in a way because most people, do you know, do this come from somewhere else? Yes, and haven't been raised in it. So maybe you should have been giving advice before you were even you know a number one artists. Well, I'm waiting for American Idol to call me. I've got a lot of help I can give you. Don't hire anybody apparently, No, I don't know. I'm teasing, but um, in all truth, Uh, probably my dad. You know, he was always very vocal about what I shouldn't shouldn't do and um being respectful. And he's one that would say, you know, you need to play the opry because when you're gray haired, it could be paying your bills. It's a faithful format. You need to be doing this. You need to be planting these siegs, you need to be nurturing the community. You know, he was very community oriented for Nashville, and um, just great advice. He told me. He's like the most important thing before I ever had a deal. He said, you have to write a song by yourself and be able to perform it by yourself about something that's authentic, like a universal thing that people can relate to. And if you can do that, you'll always have a friend, You'll always have a meal. You're gonna be okay. So I was really protective of my songwriting and songs. To release two songs that I did not write initially off this record was a real challenge for me if it hadn't been the truth that I had lived, you know, to find that song that someone had written that was about my life, that was huge Talking about songwriting, I mean, you wrote one of my favorite I mean, I was a top ten Country songs of all time and you and Tequila, which is I mean, if I were just to start listing off my favorites, this always is in my list and Kenny Chesney and Grace Potter cut it went number one. It's such a massive song. I mean, and I know you cut it too, How Like, how does that process going? Does can he call you and go? I just love the song can I cut it even though you've already I mean, what was that and was it hard to allow? Well? I was on the road, you know, I had recorded it for my record I'm Just a Girl album for Arista, and I was on tour with Kenny and Keith, and I've sing that song during the show and they would come out and sit at the soundboard every night and watch me sing that song, and then they'd go get ready for their show. And so fast forward ten years and Kenny went through a divorce and he said that when he was in l A he would write up down the coast and that that song, my song got him through that time in his life because it has a lot of California references and things in it. And I didn't even know he had recorded the song. I had no idea that he had cut the song. But Tresa had had the song demo with the guy singer. I had nothing to do with that, and pitched it and he recorded it. So you know, it's a testimony to God, know in my heart with wine and tequila, that he is like allowed the success from those two major things like the grace in it, the willingness to humble yourself and allow um someone else to be in front of the line, you know, all that, all the lifeless and stuff. Without getting too heavy. I really associate it all along with my career, with how it has gone down, and I think that that's part of the longevity of it is given God credit for it, and being willing to applaud other people, you know, being willing to let someone else run with something. That's it. That is, it shouldn't be hard to do, but that is important. I have to imagine too, there will be some knock ahead kids in the crowd as you're singing that, thinking you're covering a Kenny Chesney song. Oh yeah, I love it. I love to see You may not know that I co wrote this song, and I always say because I showed up at my Traces to write for that record, and she had a hangover and I had a heartache. She had been out at the Um the wake for Harlan Howard and they had had tequila the night before, and I was having boy problems or whatever, and when I showed up, it was just the perfect combo for two girlfriends to get together and just speak, speak the truth musically, What are you like running to Kenny? Though? To like randomly out of places that I mean, when you were in Nashville. Yes, he The first time I met Kenny, I was writing at Tom Collins on the corner of six and right there across from it's where a new building is now, but it's across from R. C. A. And there was this basket of keys because the parking lot would get backed up and we'd all put our car keys in there so that we could move car is around. And he and I think he was blocking me or something. And I had to go to my waitress job and and and that's when we met, was at Tom Collins Music back in Gosh, that was probably ninety two. It's a long time, long time. I mean that was yeah, way before, yeah, way before. Yeah. Okay, well listen, we we were here. Let's let's say it one more time. You have anniversary? Yes, did I shave my legs for this? Which you're going to have strawberry wine with U? Must if I can go for a memory here Martina, Ashley McBride yet, Kylie Morgan, Lauren Elena Yeah, and Ben Benski playing. I'm assumed he did a thing though he doesn't. But look, I have to tell you when I was pulling all this together and I had were emailing back and forth the managers and all this stuff, you know, and we were in a tom crunch to get anything done. And Vince is a busy guy. I mean, he's only you know, with the Eagles and on the rud He's just amazing doing his thing. And my phone rang and it said Vince Gill. Like I forgot that I even had his contact in my phone. But I'm out by the pool at my house in Florida, and uh, I looked down and it says Vince Gill, and I get so freaked out and nervous, just like hello, you know, and he's going, what's up, buddy, And we just talked about what was gonna go down and and him playing the tracks and all that stuff, and he just he's so awesome. Yeah, he's awesome. And he's just the nicest guy. Yes, did I shave my legs for this? With Terry Clark, Sarah Evans, Ashley McBride. Vince Gill remastered the other songs are remastered the new tracks. Um, that's pretty cool. It's very cool, you know what's cool too? And I was a little nervous about this. But they've gone through the catalog of all the songs that didn't make the record, and a lot of things I did with Bowen, just our demos that we were trying to see if the songs were good enough to include on that first album. So they're releasing a lot of unreleased material that we worked on and recorded that you'll hear that I wrote. I co wrote all of those, and um that didn't make the cut. So it's kind of cool. They're just including everything they could find from the vault and pulling it all together, and there'll be some digital media with it with the girls in the studio and interviews and some snippets of that too, of the process for the remask, the rerecording of everything, and the whole thing is coming out November five. Okay, I don't know what a couple of times, No, it's okay, the whole if you say it, and and you're not supposed to say that, I don't get in trouble. Yeah, the whole thing's come in November five. You're doing the before we finish? Are you doing the four thousand opery? Yes, right, yep, that would be awesome. It will be and then we realize we're like, wait, can we do the five thousand too? You know, but they've had it booked for you for a long time, so we'll be there warming up the crowd for everybody. Thank you for coming by, thank you for having we're actually, you know, I talked about your new on TikTok. You talked about that. We're actually gonna go shoot a couple of little videos for TikTok out there, and then we will, I'm sure, see each other at the operation in the next few weeks. I'm a lucky girl. I'm out there every day. And congrats when you're married. Thank you very much, very happy for you. Me too. Hopefully I don't have to feel those two qui la songs, you know, if they don't need that like to relate to, I can listen to because I like it. That's right, Yes, all right there. She has Dina Carter follow her on Instagram at Dina Tunes. But Dean, like Dean Martin forever, I have not gotten that. Yeah, I just thought you spelled Dina weird. If you don't put two INDs in it, it's Dina. That's the easy way to remember. Yeah, I would still go Dion if I were just reading it, you know, I have to tell a quick funny story. There were some girls that came to a show and they were calling me Diana, and I try to be really nice. I don't want to hurt me body's feelings, obviously, and it doesn't bother me, but I just don't want to answer to a different name. And so I said, it's actually Dina. And they were in their thirties and they're like almost started crying. They go our whole childhood, We've called you the wrong name. And they got all upset and I was like, no, come here, and put my arms around him. I was like, let's take pictures. It's okay, Like I just wanted you to know. And then those two people were Dan and Jay's funny. Okay, Dina card everybody, you guys. November five is when that comes out, and I'm sure we'll hear these two singles maybe before that. Yeah, okay, great, all right, thank you, thank you,