Charley Hoffman On 3 Years Of Never Beating Tiger, The Tour Pro he Almost Fought, & How To Punish Slow Players

We Need A Fourth

Four-time PGA Tour winner Charley Hoffman joins Brian, Cooper, and Kenny for one of the best episodes we've had. Charley breaks down what it was actually like playing alongside Tiger Woods in his prime — and why he couldn't beat him a single time in three years on tour. Plus: the story of the tour pro who took a rage divot on the 12th tee at AT&T in front of an amateur, the confrontation that followed in the scoring trailer, and why Charley has zero regrets about calling him out. Also: Charley's deliberate strategy for getting slow players put on the clock, why he thinks slow play will never be fixed on the PGA Tour, and the story of how a dinner conversation with Charley is the reason We Need a Fourth exists.


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2026-04-27 56 min

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