814: REVENGEANCE

It's not Tuesday. Welcome to BombCast Revengeance eight fourteen for Thursday, November ninth,
twenty twenty three. I'm your bad host, Jeff Grubb. We're gonna
we're gonna get through this together. Everybody. Jan o'hoa is out, but
we're still gonna do BombCast Revengeans because we got a lot to talk about of
a simpled crew of experts here. Whether they're experts in fridges or handheld computers,
it's for you to decide, that, concludes mister Dan Reiker, Dan,
how are you doing? I'm doing great playing all the newest, hottest,
greatest games on my Steam deck. O. Let here look at that,
to look at the look at the colors on that I got bright of
this. Oh that's vibrant. That's what I would say? Is that?
Which one was that exactly? Which game is that? Specific? Okay?
Yeah, next block right now? Oh yeah that looks nice. Tomorro,
who's saying? Is here? Tom? How are you doing? I'm doing
great? My Steam deck is behind me, I'm very very excited to talk
about it. And uh, the oh, let's screen has been rocking myself
slately. Yes, it's good stuff. And then Jeff Becklar, how's your
steam deck go? Led Uh, it's doing really well. I'm assuming it's
just you know, out there somewhere, perhaps in production or maybe not even
a figment of anyone's imagination yet, but we'll see. I do need a
new fridge though, because mine has decided to start leaking into the ice maker.
The ice maker is leaking and I'm getting cubes that are stuck together.
So if we have a fridge expert in the house appreciation, the question is
do you need do you need a new fridge or are you doing boy in
math and being like, well, I have to get into this entire thing
replace it with a brand new one. When it's like a little fix,
if something breaks, you can't fix it. I once moved because I wo
a window in a house. You have to get the whole thing replaced.
If I was grubbing my water heater broke, I would have moved. I
replaced it myself, like you guys, Yes, you didn't want to explain
that. You guys are like, what are you gonna do with all the
extra money. It's like, no, I did it because I don't have
two thousands. Why that's why if if I ever break a limb, I
am potato immediately. Yeahs I don't have a youth up here is because I
didn't have money to get to They could have fixed the tooth, but it
was gonna cost like three hundred dollars more, and I was like, I
just take it out. I don't need it, and they they told me,
They're like, hey, you're probably gonna want to as you get older
have a tooth there. It's going to fuck up your jaw and all sorts
of stuff. You're in three hundred bucks. I don't have that, and
so now that's why I have to get my whole fucking jaw fixed and stuff.
So has the science improved on replacing that tooth now, because I know
for a while there there was like, no, we just actually can't put
a tooth there anymore. I and six to nine months when my bite is
aligned, I can get a tooth foot in there. But yeah, please
please get a gold tooth. No, could it be funny chrome one?
Yeah? Chrome one would be amazing. Yeah, it would be funny.
Well that's not a can you get? Can you get replacement teeth that are
also like Bluetooth enabled? I was literally just sitting there waiting for an opportuny
to make a bluetooth jokes. And I don't even know if it's funny,
Tam, but I'm glad that we're on the same page. Like, if
you could have like a wireless transmit in your tooth walk around being bone conduct
Yeah, it goes right to your brain. What's the stupidest thing you could
put in there, like instead of you know, like cyanide capsules are like
the horrible ones. That's something like that concept, but a stupid funny thing.
A little speaker, A little speaker that is only a to play one
sound. Yeah, Ryan carries Christmas song? That yeah, very probably that
only plays Mariah carries Christmas. No, I can play doom in my tooth?
Yeah yeah, with my tooth. Yeah No. Every time you like
take a bite, is the taco bell bong that would get buried enough water
torture. That's just not gonna work. That sounds terrible. I think all
the times you chew in a day that that would be wrong. My Xbox
made that sound every time I turned it on, so I already heard that
too much. Oh did you turn that? Did you turn that off?
Or did you uh with that? Either? You can. My Xbox one
X was the Taco Bell one so like everything, turn it on, dung
dung. Sure I could get in there and break the little speaker. I
don't want to change it. No, no, no, no, so
yeah steam deck. Oh lad you guys want to just hop into it or
be ready to go? Yeah? All right, I want to hit the
button then make a laugh for you guys. I hear it's happening. Baby.
I think the most important thing to start with here is something I've had
to think of eight million times in the last two weeks. Is bezel or
bezel Bezel. Yes, you guys both said bezel if you like, you
interchanged a little bit. By the time you did the short, though,
you said bezel. And I'm really glad you had said on that turbo.
Shawn would have fucking died when he was editing there. He would have lost
his mind, that you guys. So I remember looking it up before I
shot the TikTok thing. But when we were in Seattle, I was just
talking what the seans and Chow already all caps bezelzel. You would have killed
Bezel? Yeah, Bezel? Okay, okay, uh but yeah, that
Bezel is smaller this time, so you see more of the screen. It's
uh we talked in the video a little bit about uh oh, I wonder
if it's gonna be a smaller form factor and stuff like that. It's not,
but the size of components has changed in a way where it's like,
Okay, the screen is actually bigger, and one of the batteries actually because
because of the OLED technology it wasn't taking up as much space with the oily
was skinnier. The screen skinner because it doesn't need back lights because it has
its own light emitting diodes. That's what they are, and so yeah,
they could fit more battery in there and it makes a huge difference. Yeah,
So, like looking at it, outside of like you know, the
red power button, there's not a lot of things just looking at it turned
off team deck, LCD and an O lead that you could tell right away
like in a police lineup. But uh yeah inside inside there are things that
are shifted around in different sizes. For sure. I so I got it,
and you had seen it by the time I got it, and you
were saying, oh led screen, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but lots
of other cool stuff there. But let's let's start with the screen though,
and then we'll get in all those little things. It really is impressive.
I think that the screen that they have here is it's the best OLED screen
I've seen in a handheld gaming device for sure, better than the switch,
which is a good, really good screen. Not to like put down the
switch, but it's better than what the switch has. That switch, Yeah,
get in your place and then think it's better than like my phone's HDR
o LED screen and those things. That's a thousand dollars and these things are
getting up there in price, but that's I got. It's pretty impressive that
they're playing in that field. A big part of that is they seem to
be obsessive about the color accuracy and making sure that they hit that one thousand
knits of HDR brightness, which is what you need to get to have really
good HDR. And you got it. And it's impressive, and it's we
go like that battery because the battery I feel so much better. I don't
mind using it on full HDR brightness. It's really impressive, I trust me.
When I was at valb and like the display experts were going into the
nitty gritty and showing me like spectrograms and stuff and saying knits and stuff a
lot. It's a lot of me going into the like oh oh yeah,
yeah. It's like yeah, yeah, I know these words that you're saying.
Yeah, I can tell with my eyes it doesn't look a lot better
exactly. Real world testing is the thing I've just been doing. I'm not
sitting there trying to do anything scientific. I'm just like I've used the steam
Deck a lot, I've used the roger Ally a lot. Now I'm using
this a lot, and this one it just feels really good. It looks
really good, and a lot of those anxiousness I would have about the battery,
you know, running out too fast, most of that stuff's gone.
And then yeah, I was okay with the original steam Deck screen. I
thought it looked pretty good. I know a lot of people don't theyres a
lot of people like, hey, I'm going to replace the screen myself,
and I'm going to try to mess around with the vibrancy settings. And steam
Valve released and update so that people could do that themselves. I was like
whatever, But seeing the difference, it's like, wow, it really is
night and day. This is a much better screen. Yeah, I feel
like I mean, they talk about how impressive it is. They make a
big deal of it being the first like HDR enabled, like little screen or
led screen that you can take out about and it's when you start playing games
I have HI enabled and seeing it on there, you're like, oh,
okay, this is actually a pretty big deal. And in most cases they
say that they doesn't need to be extra work done to games to make them
function with HIO on the Steam deck. I feel like that is true for
the most part of what I played, but there were some games that I
think require a little bit of finessing, a bit more just like a little
bit of performance noticeable hitches heir in there, but nothing close to even like
ruining the experience. It feels like a very impressive but seamless upgrade that is
enabling more features in a way that you would expect would require way more like
fiddling from from the user, but it's more seamless. Yeah, seamless.
I took the micro st out of my LCD steam back and put it in
and it just worked everything right away, no weirdness at all. So now
I have terabout two terabytes of storage in this thing now, because then they
able one terabyte model. That's what they sent me, and I think that's
what they sent you guys as well. Ready the right, the one terabyte
model, and so I put in one terabyte SD card and it's great,
And of course the SD card is actually still pretty fast to load stuff,
but you know, one terabyte SSD built in very fast. Also, Yeah,
we should probably, I mean it's obvious, and I like it makes
a lot of sense, but we should probably just clarify that we were sent
these Steam decks by Valve ahead of time, correct, so you know,
do without what you will. Our impressures are based on them providing us the
the hardware, which we appreciate both. Yep, honestly one of my favorites.
Like there's a lot of like little tiny things that add up to this
being a bigger upgrade than something like the switch to lead one that I think
will make a serious difference for me as I travel, because like this is
a it's a great plane platform for sure, but like this case, it's
this outer case is the same size as comes with the device. If this
comes with the device, Uh, this this new case comes with the one
terabyte versus yes, yes, not the lower ones, but the outer case
is still super bulky and everything, but for the audio listeners, I'm there's
a belcrow thing here that actually I don't think you have to even on zipp
it you just yeah, yeah. So there's like an inner sleeve that you
can take out that is significantly skinnier. So if you're just like trying to
pack light or just do like a one bag situation or something, it makes
it a ton easier. So that's that's one of the upgrades. I really
like a lot. I'm sat in chat to EVO Shawn saying, what is
this screen people keep talking about? I can't find it anywhere and you can't
hot swap, steam deck, LCD and old led pots. So I interviewed
spoke to Lawrence Young, one of the key people behind this, the other
day and asked him, like, what is the deal with this screen?
And apparently it's one of the reasons that they couldn't have it in the original
model, is like they had to work with manufacturers to get this screen made.
I asked. I asked him like, who did you work with?
And he was like, we're not quite ready to talk about that yet.
And he also indicated like there's a bunch of manufacturers that they work with.
You can once you have an old lead, you can go in there and
see what where your panel came from. But it's not something that he said
at the time. When they first made the first steam deck, the original
version, they wanted to do this, everyone that they worked with was basically
like, what we've got these tablet panels, you can put that in there,
and that was not what they wanted. They needed something more bespoke.
So the process of, according to Lawrence, like getting this first steam Deck,
like proving it to be a success, and then that helped them leverage
that kind of experience and the market share to go back and be like,
we need this specific screen. So it's not something that you will be able
to easily find, I imagine. But Valve also has kind of a good
history of just making parts available for repairs, and they're getting better at that
all the time too. Yeah, a screen seems like an expensive proposition and
a tricky one from like manufacturing to getting it available in a consumed to consumers
in an easy way. But it's not beyond the realm of possibility for them
to be like, hey, if you want to replace your screen, here
it is, but I feel like it's on paper feasible to do it with
the LCD one because the power is not all that different. But then you
have to factor in, like the battery size is an issue because the smaller
screen means bigger battery and vice versa could be a problem. Yes, So
I don't know which one people were sourcing before this was announced, that people
were trying to put in their own screen. I don't know if it was
an O LED screen or if it was just a better LCD screen. No
clue, but uh, I mean the reality here now is that this is
available, and this is probably your best option. I know some people are
already have their Steam decks there might be hesitant about upgrading. We could talk
about that maybe here at the end, where we're like, hey, is
it worth upgrading if you already have one. So we'll keep that in mind
as we're going through all these questions and stuff. But like to kind of
touch back on the HDR real quick. HDR on Windows is bad, It's
real bad. Yeah, it's getting it's broken. I had there was a
hot key thing where I'm like, oh, this is great, I'll do
this hockey every time I'm about to start an HDR game, turns HDR back
on and everything, and that'll it's still bad, but it will be less
of a headache. And it's like Nope, that hockey just stopped working.
Windows. It's like, no, that's not going to work anymore HDR.
What are you talking about? And then when you have multiple monitors, it
just makes it just unbelievably. And you know, obviously we're we're a very
specific case as well where we're doing a lot of video work and we can't
have HDR signals getting mixed in with SDR signals whatever. But HDR in general
on Windows is bad. This isn't Windows, this is Steam OS. It's
Linux Day, but it's their version of Linux Steam that they you know,
baked in such a way to make it just work. And so far,
when I'm mooting up a game, it either automatically boots into HDR mode or
it automatically boots into a mode where it's like it's ready to have HDR turned
on inside the game. That's going to be a game by game situation.
But all you gotta do is flip it on the screen instantly. It doesn't
even like fade the black real quick it just like nope, just goes right
into HDR. Yeah, and then you can press the little you know,
the three dot menu button, the one that has all of your quick menus,
and you can see on there on the brightness and now just says that
there's an HDR badge up there and says, hey, you have HDR.
It's working. It's great. They do recommend setting the brightness to eighty five
percent, so that way, when you get those really bright things at the
really bright moments, those can actually go above that eighty five percent brightness.
So it just works and that's been a real relief for me. So who
wants to do more HDR gaming? And that's something that's gotten better with steam
Deck ever since the original came out, is that you know, at first,
there's a lot more fiddling required, what'stuff. And as time has gone
on, there's so many more games that are just like, okay, we're
going to launch into that like twelve eighty by eight hundred and you know it's
it's just going to work. And now this feels like like the I think
they even described it as like this is like the ideal first sagetive, first
gen steam Deck. Yeah, yeah, it is not the seame deck too
or anything like that. They're not marketing it as such, but like there
is enough there to where I do think that like it might be worth an
upgrade. I think about all those little things like the first one Bluetooth,
I played with my AirPods on the plane, and you know, if I
have to go to the bathroom or something and I got to just put it
in sleep mode per a second. It's not a huge deal, but I
would have to go into the settings into Bluetooth reconnect my AirPods every single time.
And now the new Bluetooth driver on this, it just connects. It's
totally fine. I've tested that little parks like it running cooler and quieter,
things like that, Like it's not just lip service, you know. I've
spent a couple of weeks with them now and it really is. And the
battery life thing on the way out there, I had I was playing Dave
the Diver and I had to do like a pit stop during my layover and
like charge I just played for like two hours day the Diver and I had
to recharge it and then go on the next leg. With this, with
the battery life, I probably could have just gone the whole way and not
had a charge. It is a little crazy to sit here almost two years
after the release of the original steam Deck and be like, well, finally
the definitive steam Deck. Yeah, that's the right. I think I agree
with you, Like it's like, then, what have we been using?
But I think the original steam Deck wasn't It wasn't just a proof of concept.
It was better than that. But it definitely felt like them proving to
themselves that they could do this and then people would care. And I think
even they were a little surprised that people cared enough that they're like, oh,
had we known this thing was going to sell like this, Had we
known developers we're gonna get on board the way that they have, we would
have done this and this and that, and now this has all those extra
things in there. Now if you have, if you are someone who's already
bought one and you're feeling burned, yeah, I don't blame you. You
gotta maybe yeah, go ahead. I was gonna I was gonna say like,
yeah, I can understand why you might feel burned, but I and
I would definitely feel have some element. But having played it, like I
this is going to sound like I'm talking shit, but like it doesn't at
all diminish what the steam Deck is. Like. Sure the screen is like
not as amazing, but in terms of in its and power, it's the
exact same thing. And yes, the battery life is isn't as good,
but the fundamental experience that you're having with a steam Deck is the same.
And for a lot of people, I feel like that is the kind of
like now that's the cheaper entry point, and I feel like that's important to
kind of not like cast aside. And because I know we have a hit,
we have like a tendency to be like new thing is better than old
thing, thus old thing must be thrown into sun. But like, no,
this thing is one of those ones where it's like it's the new one
is good to have if you're about to buy one for the first time.
Amazing, But I've I would have no issue having experienced a buff. I
would have no issue just carrying on with my current steam Deck because it is
still very, very nice. And they also promised that a lot of the
up the software updates that they're learning to do, because they're putting so much
work into this, they're going to bring as many of those to the original
steam Deck as possible the Steam Deck LCD as possible. Have you said something
about, like, you know, them testing the waters with the first one,
And I can kind of understand that too, because you look at their
history with hardware. It was went the Steam link, the Steam controller,
things that are in the hardware Steam issues. That's the thing, Like,
none of that stuff took off, and so I think when this got announced,
it's like, all right, that sounds great in theory, but let's
see. And I feel like this was the first piece of hardware from them
where people were like, oh, wait, that's actually like this kicks ass.
And the reality is like the first it's a PC, but they're treating
like a console. And this is something I talked to Laurren seeing about as
well, and they're like, we really like that it's both. We really
like that it's open and you could do whatever you want with it, but
then we can make the experience as as simple as possible. And and it
started not not quite there, it got there pretty quickly with updates, and
now they're so far beyond that that it's like, oh, they're making improvements
to this thing that just improved the quality of life so much that it's really
noticeable, and it's like, oh, man, I this is almost the
ideal consoleized experience that I want when I'm picking up a device and it's for
a PC, let's finish up on the screen. It's not just HDR,
it's not just a thousand nits, it's not just OLED. It's also ninety
hertz. And there's some benefits there. For one, you can run games
at ninety frames per second, some games that would be fine with the improved
battery life. That's actually possible and reasonable for some things. But also you
can run games like I usually do at forty five frames per second, and
it just there's this one slider. Now you move it down to forty five
frames per second and it will run the games at forty five frames per second,
and then double the frames like they do for the VR devices, to
ninety hertz, so it actually smooths it out even more. And then there's
another option, go down to thirty frames per second and use frame tripling to
not get back to ninety hertz, and it makes thirty frames per second look
way smoother than it's ever really looked for me. And I'm like, whoa,
this is actually really impressive stuff. So a lot of options to say
battery and still get a really nice image quality. That's awesome. Yeah,
so we'll get some other stuff, but so far, back Lar, do
you have any questions that I have some questions from people on Twitter. We
maybe we get some questions from chat if we need to, But anything that
comes to mind that you want to ask about Backlar, I think for me,
I was curious more about Like it sounds like I already know the answer
to this question, but I always found like the touch pad squares that flank
the screen to just sort of be like a little pointless in a lot of
ways. And you're completely wrong about that. But I understand why you say
that, right, Like you know, I find myself using them by accident
more than deliberately. Uh, maybe you could change my opinion on their usefulness.
Well, so they didn't prove the haptics on there, right, Is
that what you're going to mention, Dan? Yeah, the actics better.
Well, I was going to say that, like if you're not doing a
lot of like Linux and emulator stuff, like that's where it really comes in,
like an ideal way to kind of do that is like Bluetooth mouse and
keyboard. But if I'm you know, on a plane or something and I
just need to get into Linux and like move a file into another fold or
whatever, that's when you're using those track pads and like for those like kind
of short use, you know, but it's like it's fine. It's not
just a mouse though, Like you can use the Steam So Steam is great
because of Steam controller input, and they basically can make these thumb thump pads
do anything, and you could turn them into radial menus for any game.
You turn them into radial menus for any emulator so that you don't have to
like bring up a keyboard on your virtual screen and hit this and do alt
F four whatever to get out of thing. You could just set that to
a radial menu input. And it's because it's Steam. It's like universal for
all these games and not just that you don't have to do it yourself.
The community is doing these things and you could just download the profile and apply
it to a game, apply it to emulators, and it just works.
It's kind of it's magic stuff. But the haptics are better, and yeah,
that's noticeable as well. It's like all a million tiny little things like
that that are noticeable once you start using it. I've also used those things
for like games are point and click adventure games for example, that are in
early access that I haven't reached the point yet where they optimize for Steam,
and that's been like super helpful for me as well. Like I don't use
them a lot, but there have been moments where I've been like, oh,
I can just use mouse, great, fantastic and it does feel a
little better now, yes, exactly. Yeah. I tried it with like
Command and Conquer a Red Alert remastered and like you can do the mouse,
but with that just fine, let me see im. Lets se if I
get some of these questions. In the meantime, I don't know any other
big things about the Steam that you doesn't want to mention some of these.
The one thing I will mention, like is they on paper? I believe
the the like change in weight is like like is it thirty grams or something
like that. It's like they said, it's like five. I have to
look at the press thirty longer battery life and then it's like five. Yeah,
it loses on paper if you get if you can look at the exact
number. On paper, it doesn't look like a massive like drop in in
like the weight, but when you play it and hold it, I feel
like it feels lighter, and over time you get less of that fatigue that
you often get with the original steam deck. Yeah. So so I feel
like the weight is a pretty good good like change, an important one for
me as someone who likes to do long sessions. Yeah. On the video
we did the YouTube video we did with it, we did like the blind
test where it's like I put on a sleep mask and had Jan Handy.
Both women like it was immediately noticeable. Yeah, uh yeah. The press
kid says thirty longer battery life. It does just say lighter. I wonder
if it's it's like, okay, you know what the hereo hereo reduction of
five percent five percent, it's a six hundred and forty grams down from six
hundred and sixty nine grams sixteen And that's right. Then you started by saying
that doesn't sound like a lot. You notice it, You notice it,
Yeah, you feel it, especially in those longer sessions. Like, especially
in those longer sessions, there's like a I feel like the weight the slight
weight change also makes it feel more like ergonomically better, Like I realized that
because I was playing the rock ally, and the Rock ally is a less
like it's more of a shop design, if you know what I mean.
But I can felt like I play it for way longer because it's lighter,
and I can hold it for much longer. And now that this is lighter,
I feel like I'm able to play it for much longer. I think
it's in my hand. Yeah, it's in the comfort zone now, even
though like the physically it hasn't changed too much. I always liked the shape
of the steam deck. It really just was there's something about the weight or
the weight balance that made it slightly more fatiguing than I was expecting. And
now now I think that this is on like yeah, the other side of
that that comfort zone where it's now safely in that green zone where it's like,
okay, I can use this for an extended period of time, and
I am again because of the battery life, all right, there's some questions
here, how are the temperatures holding it after hours of prolonged use literally one
compared to the switch O led But I think for me, I've noticed that
it's much cooler, much cooler overall. Yeah, a contract, it's cooler
overall, or if the heat is distributed in a way where it's less noticeable,
well it is. So they were usually the seven nanimeter a die for
the original steam deck, and now this uses a six nanimeter so, and
because they are keeping it on the exact same performance profile, just physics means
they would be producing less heat to get to the same performance with a small
with a shrunk down die. So and it's actually producing less heat improved thermal
performance due to larger fangs. I don't know about you guys, but like
it doesn't the fan doesn't sound as aggressive to me, maybe much because I
haven't I haven't like played a game that forces it to kick into super high
gear. But I remember when I played the original was like, man,
this is loud. I need to put headphones in because it's drowning out the
audio coming out of this. But now I'm just like, oh, this
is much quiet. So I had the steam Deck that they originally sent me
for a review, and that one apparently had a different fan than what went
out to all the customers, and so mine's always been relatively quiet. And
yet this one is noticeably more quiet now that. One of the best parts
of the video Dan that you and Jan put together was that moment where he
had the shotgun Mike Pony pointed at each one and you could hear the difference.
It was immediately noticeable how much quieter the new the new ola was.
Yeah, yeah, all right, let's see, uh would you guys?
Okay, So, like, if you do have a raj Ally Tam,
you're still gonna go back and play that because it's more powerful or what.
I don't know. I feel like I haven't had them long enough to really
define the thing about it is. Steam is so good man like now It's
like sometimes I'll be like, I use my roger Ally as my like in
bed device, where I'll keep it by my bedside, whereas the Steam that
goes like with me. And because like the way that cloud Save works,
it's so easy to move back and forth between them, I do come back
to the the Roger Allies power is is like still a bit of a advantage,
but I usually only use it when I know that that power is gonna
actually help. Same like Ball of Gate three runs a bit better on the
Roger Ally. The problem with the Roja ally is the armory crate thing is
just annoying. I hate that it boots. It's bad software. Yeah,
it's bad software. Whereas the steam Deck has got like super nice, super
easy to use and like esthetically pleasing software. So if it's a game that
really won't benefit from a little bump in power, I'll just default to the
steam Deck because it is lighter and it feels like existing in that ecosystem is
more intuitive on the steam Deck than it is on the Roger. Ally,
even though you can do it there. Crooked View chat says, have you
tried Bluetooth headphones at all? Does it still have the bad audio delay?
Now, they always had apt x apt X, which means if you would
have had a certain kind of wireless head phones, you could get low latency
Bluetooth. But the chances are, like the fact that if you were not
going in the setting to making sure that everything was working right, you're probably
getting just that basic level of Bluetooth, which does have really bad audio delay.
But the good news is they got a new Bluetooth radio in here.
Five point two that will probably help a little bit. Three five point three,
thank you, that will probably help with Bluetooth audio a little bit.
What that's really gonna help with, though, is if you want to dock
this thing to your TV and have maybe up to eight controllers connected, it
might be able to support that. It's definitely gonna better than the original Steam.
They said. It will support multiple controllers and it will do it better
without the cross talk that the previous Steel exactly. Oh yeah, I know
that was a thing. I think there's a test we're gonna need to do
because Grub, you've got that bullshit thing you say about how you can wake
up your switch with a by shaking your controller's yeah, that's true. There's
no way that's real. It says here that it now supports wake via Bluetooth
controller. So the question is, can you turn on your Steam deck by
shaking another controller? All right, I'll get that connected and mobile, see
if we can make that happen of it? Okay, yeah, yeah,
I wonder. I'm gonna assume that is the case, because that's not like
an exclusive to the switch thing. No, try and throw it against that
closet mirror. If that it works, I feel like that's what it is,
right, Like, that's the wake up gesture for that like the apid
doh thing, right, Like for sure, that's how it wakes up my
then you connect to the switch bea bluetooth. I would imagine that's how it
works. Yeah, it seems just to be its wake up signal with that
a good set. Yes, let's see. Uh, we all have the
one terribies, so that means we all have the etched glass, little kind
of more reflective glass. I guess I compared that to my ring one that's
the non reflective. I think it looks pretty good in most situations I'm going
to be playing it in. It's not going to be when it's daylight where
there's gonna be a lot of sun kind of beating down on it. But
I would imagine with the one thousand knits, this is probably actually going to
be a better experience outside. I don't know, how do you guys feel
about that etched glass on the way. They did specifically say that they wanted
to be more playable outside with the brightness. I think it definitely is.
I've not played it outside because of imboggos and confidentiality and don't play this outside,
yes exactly. Yeah, so yeah, so I can't say for that,
but I have played it in a very well lit room, which is
the room that I'm in now, and it's definitely not as much of an
issue like the glare and not being able to properly see stuff. It seems
fine. All right, two more things. How do you feel about the
orange power button? I love it? Love it, I love it,
I love it. Yeah. Have you seen the translucent one? The edition
they're doing that last question? Dan, you got to see the translucent one
and you didn't get to take it home though, right, No? No,
I told him I was a big mark for the fantastic against sixty four
stuff, and yeah, a little bit about that one. Yeah, yeah,
I'm moudeled my PS five to ye. I had the like translucent blades
and everything. I just love that look. And so yeah, it's like
a limited one terabyte that they're putting out. I don't know if they said
the specific amount that they're putting out, but there's more orange on that.
There's more like vents and things like that where you see the orange poking through.
But yeah, it seems sick. Yeah, but they actually had to
like make it out of a different material because they're like, oh yeah,
when you make something translucent. You know, there are factors that you don't
think about where it's like, oh god, we're gonna have to do a
whole different set of drop tests on this and everything. So, uh,
they had to do all that just for this limited dition. It. Originally
the translucent stuff they would get back and like this looks shitty, this looks
bad. We got to like keep going at this and see what materials are
actually going to work. So is more money. It's a limited edition one,
so it's got yeah yeah, and it's like but it's got a lot
of cool like accents on it. The the orange power button they like behind
the fans, it's all orange and stuff and they try to make that all
over the place and it's just orange. Is so back in such a big
big Yeah, it's big again, Spice orange taking over the world. Like
originally got a transparent orange red. Okay, let's I'm bad at colors,
so an orange. I think they I think they said it was orange in
their in their video. Oh no, in the translucent one. When I
looked at him, Oh there's the translucent one. Yeah, I thought it
looked red, but they said it was to mat the orange power button.
So I think they won't want it to be orange an over video. Who
knows how that's always gonna play. I mean orange, orange. Orange is
the color of valve, isn't it. Yes, exact, yeah, and
then that's exactly what they went for it, yes, Freeman, but the
valve itself is red. Yeah. Okay, whoa, everyone's mind is blowing
one of the portals orange, very clearly clear one of the portals. Yeah.
Yeah. I've always been been on the Orange train for years. Okay,
So last thing here, I've had a spider Man Miles Morales on this
entire time. I've been trying to keep the screen awake so it's as bright
as possible. It's HDR. I haven't set to eighty five percent brightness like
they say, And I mean the battery thing, it's just not it's barely
moved. Uh So okay, you know I started at eighty percent battery.
It's down to sixty nine percent battery. And that's it's just been running.
You know, I don't have anything special on it. I think I have
it at forty five frames per second. Yeah, it's it's it's real nice.
That's been the biggest thing for me. It's just feel more perfident using
it for longer periods of time. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely quality
of life all around. And I feel like I would probably no brainer if
I didn't own an original Steam Deck, I would be buying this one.
But you know, obviously, like I said, more than a dozen things
where you're just like, man, all these little parts add up to something
greater that stead performance wise under the hood, it's uh, it's it's not
going to really perform better, right. They wanted to be exactly the same
as what they said, right, So I think at a certain degree,
like there is a bit of a ceiling here, and I think that's probably,
like I said, for me, the deciding factor about upgrading sort of
mid generation if you will. How do you guys? How do you guys?
I think that's completely fair, right, Yeah, yeah, I said
like that. They describe it as the best version of the original Steam Deck.
Yeah, and you haven't very much, Yeah, I mean much.
I don't know. It depends on who you are, because like I remember
when Nintendo made that switch, not the O lead, just the model that
I had better battery. I did swap it out. I did buy the
new ones. So it's like, I don't know, if you were something
that always wants the newest model and newest bells and whistles and stuff, like,
I would have bought this, you know. I mean if I would,
if I would have spent my own money on this, and I would
have sold the original steam Deck on like a craiglist or something, I would
probably feel pretty good about this because I I think I did some similar with
the with the switch where I had a launch switch, I uh, I
think I actually gave that one away, and then I have a switch O
lead and I'm like, this is just an O lead screen And the battery
was improved, So that was that improved there as well, because they did
the same thing. They shrunk the dye. But it's like those two things
that was enough. I was. I love my switch old and I used
it all the time in handhel mode all the time. This having those same
two improvements and a kind of a couple dozen other small things on top of
that, uh, it really makes the case. Now. You know,
if you are looking at the price, Dan, are you looking at the
fact sheet? You have the private Okay, yes, so the steam Deck
LCD, the previous model, the two fifty six, isn't it go ahead?
Yeah, no, it's gonna say the storage side, yes, but
you got it, go ahead. Yeah, the two fifty six old model
LCD is three ninety nine now, so that got a price cut. And
then the three models of the O lead. So the five to twelve is
five hundred and forty nine dollars, the one terabyte is six hundred and forty
nine dollars, and the limited one is six seventy nine, also one terabyte.
They are they also they're going to continue selling the LCD models or the
other versions until they sell out. So like there's a five twelve, and
there's yeah two and fifty six, and the five to twelve and then so
and then also just the SD card one, right, the one that has
the eMMC memory. They're going to keep selling two of those until they sell
out, and then the two is it the two hundred fifty six get gigabyte
model or the five to twelve that's sticking around fifty six? Second round?
Okay? Okay? Cool? Yeah? Well, hey, I've been excited
about it. I've been using it a ton. I'm someone who likes these
things a lot, but I forgot my ally, even though I don't really
like using my ally because of Windows and because of the software on there.
I just kind of like the faulted to that because it was running things better.
And now I'm so happy to be back on the steam deck because of
the experience, and the screen is so good in the battery like so so
just it's it's just real nice. Yeah, Okay, there's a bunch of
there's a bunch of like small things as well that oh yeah, I always
say like there's it's I feel like it's a on paper, it looks like
a bunch of like random bits and pieces that changed it. You're like,
yeah, it's not that great, but when you the experience of how it
comes together, you're like, Okay, I see why it's worth it.
Like even small things like the the kind of texture on the thumbstick, like
the it's it just like grips a bit better and it's less like the thumbsticks.
That's right, feels like improve Yeah. My my original thumbstick was a
little it felt a little shop on my fingers, if you know what.
Yeah, and this one feels just a little more comfortable. So it's good.
Any aesthetic changes to underneath the thumbsticks it's now black instead of kind of
that white gray. And also the the letters themselves on the face buttons are
more of a darker gray than more of that white light gray before. So
some little aesthetic changes like that, but it still looks like a Steam deck.
And I think they said like it's its height is like one millimeter different
difference, a different than the labored But basically what that means is it's such
a small difference in terms of form factor that if you have any accessories that
you bought for the original steam deck, it will just work. And all
the ones that have been manufactured in are sitting on shelves. If this is
your first Steam deck, you could just go pick from those and they will
all just like snap right on, no problem. This inspired me to finally
buy a dock for it, and obviously it was an old one since this
sidn't been announced. Yea, and it works totally fine. Yep, yep.
I got my dock set up too, and I've been doing the same
thing. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break when we get back to
Inspired by this topic, Dan, you wanted to talk about the best games
to play portably, right, The best portable game of all time. Let's
figure it out. All right, We're going to talk about that right after
this. All right, we're back and we've got a top discussed. This
is what we do on a bomb cast Revenge Gents, where we talk about
games we missed, embargoes we missed. But then we want to have a
conversation that might be a little bit longer lasting because we did just get our
Steam decks, and by us I mean me Tam and Dan Jeff Baslar.
Yes, we kick the non Steam deck. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
the cool kids are here. Human Trek has replaced him in Human Trek's not
gonna have much to say. Uh Dan, what are you thinking here?
How do we going to approach this? Let's just talk. We're all adults.
We're gonna have a conversation here. We do this with Game of the
Year. We've determined many things in categories. This is simple. This is
one category. What we wants the best portable game of all time. And
that's the goal to define the best portable game of all time. Yeah,
okay, links Awakening settle, Let's go No. One of the week of
sell the games. All right, So here's another thing about why links Awakening
isn't the best ever are? To me? The a portable game to me
is synonymous with like I want that time travel aspect where it's like because I
think about it on planes all the time, because that's generally where I've played
portable games. Or there was a really arc period of my life. It
was my first semester of college where I went into classes and sat there and
there were dudes standing at the front trying to teach me things and it was
harrowing. It was just awful. And it was the Game Boy Advance sp
that got me through that. So I look at games like Final Fantasy Tactics
Advance, which like made an hour long class go buy in a blink or
a flight I think of Across three D. I think of a shout out
to Lucy who wanted those to plash for Vampire Survivors. Yes, games like
that that can take things that can be a chore like a flight or school,
and you can make it go really fast and make it there I say
fun. And so that's to me when I think portable games, that's what
I think of. I Okay, it's cool that you think of that.
I think of Links Awakening. Let's go it's it. That's it, all
right, we got it. It's a confusing, not grade zella game and
it's got that shitty olive the original game Boy. Yeah my god, you
had to like figure out one puzzle and you got scared by it and that
explains it all. Now, okay, I you know what, I like
your definition there. Uh, you're probably right, Like if we're talking about
the fact that it's portable, does make it does make the difference there.
I will say though, because of the Steam Deck recently, my definition of
like what makes time go by when I'm playing at portable game has changed a
little bit. Uh. The one that comes to my first is Elden Ring.
Now I just want to throw it out there, just maybe to get
out of the way. But that was a very good portable game and it
really did just eat up time. And I have camp battery too. It's
a battery that I think that's against it portably by Alton Ring on the airplane.
What are you gonna fight? One hundred and fifty hours on my Steam
Deck and like maybe like an hour or two on my PC. Uh,
So I was fine playing most of it on my handheld device. Yeah,
I would like I don't think like a battery life is a we're talking about
the best game. We're not talking about best hardware impacted by you know,
a game. Every game on Steam you're opening it up, They like,
that's just a game. I don't think. I don't think every game on
Steam cuts it like I don't think most games on Steam cut it next to
like a portable version of or a portable game on a game by advance.
For me, like I want, the question I have is like what makes
the best portable game? Is it like a singular experience that you have that
is like amazing and sticks with you, or is it the fact that this
game's got a longevity that means that you can come back to it over and
over Because Vampire Survivors is like the forever game right like you can. I
wouldn't put it as my favorite. But if I had to say, like,
what's my one of my most memorable portable game experiences, I'd say like
maybe Metro Fusion or peace Walker or something like that. So it's the criteria.
Hey, you know well, I would think once that are benefited by
the portable nature, And I think Nintendo is always on bout this, Like
what you're saying, I guess, yeah, that ends right there in your
hands. Yes, I think it's a game that you can pick up and
play for like five minutes or something. You could sit down and sink your
teeth in two for five hours, and like, I think Nintendo really got
that right, especially during that like DS three DS era there's lots of Animal
Crossings, or remember an early DS where it's like Sidoku and brain Age and
all these games were like you could pick up play for like, you know,
five minutes while you're waiting for a doctor's appointment to start or something closing,
and you're good to go play it on a bus ride it's ten minutes
long, okay, or yeah with that with that criteria in mind, because
you you were like, oh brain Age, that kind of stuff. No,
those are not video games. Those are stealth. I would I wouldn't
plush for those, but like they were example, I'm submitting for discussion,
uh two games fire Emblem on Awakening. Yeah that's the one I would go
to. Yeah, Advance Wars, I really like a danswer Wers. Both
are really good. Yes, those are like those are like replayable games.
Yes, what about Warrior Ware? I like Warrior where a whole bunch,
dude. That's uh yeah, Warrior Way is good, but like it has
a limited Like I feel like shelf life compared to something like, uh Fire
Emblem or Advance Wars to me, but the thing is fire and I'm in
Advance Wars. I think I would be hesitanting if I was on a bus
ride that was going to be like twenty minutes long, I'd be hesitant to
start a fight because it's like some of those go long and sometimes there's cut
scenes afterwards and ship you gotta do it in the town afterwards. Like it's
not like Warriorware. I know, if I have five minutes, I can
still get a full experience with the Warriorware in there, you know. Or
with Awakening you just you know, got the Clamp Show. Yeah, Awakening
was really fucking good. Yeah, yeah, I don't make a big difference.
Yes, because the fact that you could put things in these things in
the sleep mode, it kind of brings a lot of these games many so
good to be in the middle of the game and close that clamp Show,
You're like, I'm just like I'm locking up this world. Yeah myself,
right back up. The second you open it. Yeah, Fire and Bloom,
Fire and Bloom. I feel like fire Milam Awakening is a fantastic,
fantastic one. Same with like peace Walkers. While I love peace Walker came,
uh, I'm you guys are playing into the Breach? Yeah, to
go into the Breach is a phenomenal on. Yeah, that's a really good
one. That realm, it's one that boy, that that one is bite
sized levels. Uh, it is. You can so you can pick it
up and play and at the same time, if you get it into like
a good run or you can get in the zone, it can eat up
time and make it melt away. And it's it's little and easy to understand,
but like has a ton of depth. So it's like it's just goes
up and down and left and right in terms of filling up a really good
portable experience. Hey, hey, listen, I would like to submit Thevania
games. Yea, all three DS ones, all three They all kick out
bangus like they are some of the best gaming that you. Yes, they
are. If I had to pick one and say, maybe Aria of Sorrow
or maybe Order Ecclesia is really good too. Aria Sorrow is probably yeah,
yeah, yeah, Ari Aria is probably the one that I would go for
order of the case. It's pretty good. I love Circle the Moon,
but I'm like, I'm not gonna try to push because I know that's a
perversion of mine. So I would go with our. Also, those games
are like repackaged and available on Switch now. Yeah, they're so fucking good
collection advanced collection, which sting. I don't know. I feel like Ario
Sorrows Caslovania is a solid entry for all right down. Yeah, as a
real contender, collecting all those souls like formless I have. I have more
phone collecting all those souls than I've ever had collecting any Pokemon in any Pokemon.
Yeah, for sure, feel like a bone archer and take a soul
and then you can throw bones. It's like, man, the collect of
like the little game Boy Advance effect of this little sprite just popping out of
this guy because you hit them and it's just like circling. Yeah, it's
good to be surrounded by other smart people. This is nice. Yeah.
Anythings coming to life and trying to kill you, yeah, God damn it.
I didn't even have it written down, but you're so right. Okay,
here's the short list. I'm putting together a little shortlist here, like
it's a game of the year deal. Here's what I have on here right
now, and tell me which ones we can just straight up takeoff. I
got Fire and Bloom, Awakening Into the Breach, Ari of Sorrow, I
love the Cross, I love Warrior Ware, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Dare
I say Tetris, Yeah, Tetris is good. Yeah, I think Tetris
is a good one. Yeah. I mean we could put it on the
shortlist. Yeah, and then Vampire Survivors. That's what I have here.
I feel like we should probably have like Luminez on there or something that.
Luminis is a bang, as you know, it is really great and definitely,
like I would say, potentially even the best PSP game. But I
don't know if it hangs against these other ones, you know, Okay,
what about what about Hades? Yeah? Fuck, Hades is a good one.
It's really good. So again, it's like so strong in so many
ways. Now, It's it's not exactly bite size, but you could,
you know, go in sleep mode and come back and you're not gonna have
that hard of a time getting back into it most of the time. No,
but boy, just have in that game up in your face and playing
it for long periods of time in your own little world. Hades is real
good at that. Have you played that on the old Steam deck? I
have not, but I downloaded because you and Jam were telling me to do.
It looks good. Yes, we had a side by side with the
switch O lead version, and man they look both of them look good.
But the the switch the Steam olid one is is quite nice and just runs
way better. Yeah. Yeah, and the loading times are like snappyers.
It's just like such a good experience. Okay, we got to cut.
We got nine of them. Here is I hate to say it, like
I hate to be this this kind of person, but like the math games,
they're they're not They're not the ones for me. I like the period
games Oh Cross as well. It's like good, I understand, I understand.
I looked at my top under games of all timeless I did, and
that is the highest ranked. Oh no, no worry, where is my
number one? And then across three. It's just at a certain point.
Here's the thing. I can play Ario Sorrow or Fire Emblem for maybe four
or five hours continuous. After about an hour of Picross it's homework, and
it's it's it starts to feel like I've never been for us. Maybe I
feel like I feel like I want a little more game in my game,
you know what I'm saying. My god, I had one in mine and
we start talking about something else. It's gonna bother me. But we could
though. All right, Okay, we got uh what what do we have
on there? The Okay, let's cut Tetris. We're not We're not gonna
be basic bitches. Let's just cut Tetris. Okay, yeah, yes,
Tetris effect better version. Yeah, sure, yeah, you play that on
we can play it on switch. But we don't need to put that back
on the list. We were just during this, I started downloading it on
my team. Yes, oh man, yeah, it's it's good on the
switch. Ole's it's gonna be real good on there. I feel like,
surely we should have a Pokemon game one here. I mean it's our list,
and I mean, like, I like Hot Gold and Soul Silver,
I like Yellow, but I wouldn't be like fighting for it to be the
best pull games all time. Well, tam, if you're positive on it,
and I don't give a shit about Pokemon grub. Where do you land?
I mean, I I enjoy Pokemon. Fine, I don't need to
put it on this list, but we put on the short list. We
can put heart Gold on there and then take it off. Yeah, just
what Jane was so extra life this weekend. No one can see this as
the dock. But I just typed in heart Gold and now I'm heading backspace.
So we didn't put it on and take it off, so it got
the honors. Ye. What about called Goody Black Ops for the Nintendo DS?
Hell? Yeah, no, the DS Modern Warfare Reflexive. No,
that's the wee one, Yes, the one that's completely different. We don't
have metro Fusion on the What about zero Mission? Zero Mission? Zero Mission
is fantastic, but there's something about metro Fusion that I like the whole Like
survival horror, but you can come back, come back around on fusion really
hard the last time. So it's like it's like funnels. You we're supposed
to go and I just don't care anymore. I'm like, that's fine,
I expect that now. So when I go in there and play, it's
like, oh no, it's just a really good game. It turns out
when you're like more falling through like a pipe, and then it freezes and
then like the the other version of sim it's just like walks in. You're
like, please, God, don't don't see me. No alien, It's
awesome, Yeah, incredible, it is. Okay, what do we we
have ten? Now? Or no? We took tetras up? We have
nine? Yeah, only one more to make it ten Ghost Pebble, No,
let's that. No compeled to put mel gate. Let's do this.
Let's do this. Okay, we got three of us on here, we
got nine games. Let's go through. Each of us gets to cut one.
No questions asked, Oh I know, can I just add this?
This is Grand Theft, Auto, Chinatown Wars. It's pretty good, but
you know it's not gonna have so good Okay it isname styles are fantastic.
Yes, okay, it's just like really good way of shrinking down that experience
down to the portable level. But fine, you're right, let's cut.
I'm going to read these nine and then we will go around the horn and
each of us cuts one and nobody can say shit. Okay, okay,
all right. Across three D Warrior Ware, the first one Final Fantasy Tactics
Advance, Vampire Survivors, Fire Emblem Awakening into the breach Aria of Sorrow Hades,
and metrod Fusion tam cut one. And we cannot argue with you,
say, say the FoST send me a link to the dock. I'm gonna
put some on the screen for people. Let me just here. I've got
terrible memories. I'm just going to discord it to you, Grub. Those
are the games, okay, all right, it's a Across Warrior where Final
Fantasy Tactics, Vampire Survivors, Fire Emblem Awakening into the breach Aria of Sorrow
Hades, and metro Fusion tam war A way. I was gonna go Pick
Cross, but I left Pick Rock because I know you love Pickcross. I
just think more. Okay, well you look it's gone. I took it
off. I'm just saying, like like fifteen, you're probably done. Do
let me playing Warrior where this entire time, like my entire life. It's
one of the never stocked. When I stood on every device, I have
probably put three hundred hours onto the first Yeah. Same, uh okay,
Grub, come on, Yeah, this is tough because I want all these
games. This you know, what I I do love it. But of
the ones I, if I had to cut one, it would be Metroid
Fusion. Okay, I love Metroid and yeah, but that's the one I
would cut. No, apparently, apparently not enough. I'm going to cut
Fire Emblem because it's a great game, but because of that, like it's
not really one. I can get a full session and in like five minutes
you can't stut it. Tam. That was a great point, but I
still feel like you'd be cutting something off in the middle where it's like,
I'm preferring a portable game that was like, no, I had a full
experience with that, you know. Okay, that's fair, that's fair.
All right? Then the verse six, the cross taxes the vampire survivors into
the breach. Are you of sorrow and hades? All right? We're going
back around. Is that how we're doing this? Or should we do one
more round of cuts? And then we debate the final three? Did you
put them up on screen? Show I'm doing it right now? Yes,
I got it. There we go actually put that behind there? Do you
just have the six? I can't see the program, I just have the
six. Yes, I'll cut them, Olky go, let's do another round
of cuts, and then we'll debate between the last three, and then we'll
have two runners up in one winter. I feel like this is it was
besides gone gone is it's evil science is what what can I do? Oh?
God, damn it? All right, I said said, there's no
arguing, can't argue. Okay, I'm I'm gonna do this because if I
do this, then it guarantees one that I love. I mean, I
love this one. To be clear, I love this one. But if
I cut this one, the other four that are left, I would be
happy with any of them winning. Ok I'm cutting. I'm cutting, and
I'm sorry, Lucy James vs. Okay, hate see it. I hate
to see it. That's right. We're going to cut. Despite of being
a fantastic choice into the breach. I understand. It's at this point I'm
like, that might be my number one choice. Looking at what we have
left here, it's great, but I get it. I get all.
These are three. These three are amazing. Now, it's amazing. They're
all gonna they're all gonna medal here audio listeners. We so we're left with
final Fantasy Tactics Advanced Cansylvania, Aria of Sorrow, and Hades. All Right,
I think this is gonna be my argument for Ari of Sorrow because it
does fit those criteria so well. Of like, if I play it for
a little bit and then I say and quit, I still made progress.
It's not like a story thing. It's like I could I could level up
a couple of times, I get a few souls or whatever I am,
I find a new save room or something that I'm done. That could be
a five to ten minute session. Or it's a fucking Castle Vane a game.
It's a great two D one. I could play that game for five
hours and have a blast. Uh. Are you're saying that's your pick.
I think I'm leaning towards it. Yeah, I'll back that. I think
that's my pick of those three games. Say it again, I was not
paying attention. I was leaning towards Casaveni Ario Sorrow. I have a very
strong feelings about Tactics Advance. But my own logic of like, you know,
it's the same as the firing limp thing, where it's like, well
they're longer, so it's like I can't get a full tactics round in in
five minutes, So I think that pushes me more towards Ario of Sorrow.
Using AI. Yeah, I use Google's AI and I asked it, Hey,
Google, what is the best portable game of all time? And it
said Final Fantasy Tactics. Advance have been listening to number one up there right
now currently. Maybe it's like pulling from that, or maybe it's just trying
to tell us something, or maybe we say fuck AI because I also want
to say Cassavani Ario Sorrow. If that's what you've been saying this whole time,
should I should all let me GPT? They don't matter In some ways,
they matter more than all of us because it's just what we're thinking,
all right, old game of all time? God fucking damn it. I
just saw someone saying link between Worlds. Yeah, that was what I was
gonna bring that one up too, but I didn't want to because you was
shot on links Awakening. I didn't want to get enough fight about It is
the only ten I ever gave it game, and four Between is a perfect
video game. GPT has a number of submissions. Uh. It's submissions are
links Awakening, Pokemon Red or Blue, Starting a Valley, or Hollow Night
thirty is I don't considered that a portable game. Hollow night. It's not
good. So do you want to throw all this out and just go with
Link between Worlds? I'm ready to fucking like the Wise, Let's do it.
No no, no, no no no. At that Game of the
Year, tam, I wasn't I that matter? Wait what you're saying a
link between worlds? Yeah, and I'm not saying that the way that with
the attitude you just said it with. I'm saying a link between worlds.
Yeah, I'm trying to see it. And then Aria of Sorrow better than
any video game. It's so good. Come on, man, it's it's
a good game. But like fundamentally it's is a spin on link to the
past, but it plays so much better than anything. Okay, okay,
single single play through Link between World's done? Great? Was it like fifteen
hours? Something like that? Sorrow is the game you keep coming back.
I find new ship. I played Link between Worlds four times in a row,
once to beat it for review, once to get every heart piece,
once in that master mode, and another time. This is all like back
to back to back to back, which I've never done. Another time just
because I hadn't got enough for yet Sorrow. I fucking love but I just
played through it that one time. Chat in a poll and now Link between
Worlds was the only option in that poll, but it did win. You
know, Chat is smart, Chatto, Chat's important, you know, I
think we got to go with Chat the people. You know, this is
unbelievable. You've added a new game into this and like it completely invalidates the
cutting portion because like, now we go put everything back in and like rules
this as well, it requires a requires we did everything rather although hang on,
I will throw this out there. Me and Greb obviously feel very strongly
about Link between Worlds, but this is a three person thing. We are
deciding who and like we all feel good about Aria Sorrow exactly. I don't
want to just throw like I don't want to just majority rules on me and
Grub two to one. We almost like Sorrow would be like a very strong
number two for me right now. So uh yeah, yeah, my personal
is like if it was a person one, it would be like Link between
Worlds and Across and Warrior and everything, but it's not. I would say
the official Giant Bomb Pick game of all time. Yeah, there was the
Giant Bomb emblem on Castlevania Aria sorrows like box art and saying the best portable
game of all time. I think that looks right to me. I think
that's correct. Yeah, I think that objectively correct. All right, congratulations
to Konami all these years later a time. Sorry, I'm sorrow. Five
other games that are like almost that good that game? Yeah, so yeah,
those games, everybody, I'm a big fan of this. All right.
Cool. Hey, hey, thanks for hanging out with Giant Bomb all
week. This week, everybody, we're off tomorrow. If you're listening to
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nothing Giant Bomb, We're all for Veterans Day. We will be back next
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should be checking out. Extra Life, Extra Life, Yes, thank you
Weekend extra Life. We had a lot we had the community do Extra Life
last weekend. This weekend, at a nine am Eastern time, I will
begin playing some DDR and then I'll probably play some other stuff maybe Allen.
Wait, two or something. I'll catch up on some more of that,
and then at three pm, the West Coast crew is gonna be taking over
tam You guys are you're you're part of that, right? Yeah? I'm
trying to convince Johnny to doing a secular race with me. Oh okay,
that would be fun. I haven't played secular in a real long time,
but it might be trickle. So what might do is Saturday play on this
game to play on the stream, and I'll play on a Steam deck,
and then once the time is up, we reveal how fall we've got.
Oh I like that. That's fine. I like that all right, And
so yeah that they will be going three pm and on Saturday. If I
said tomorrow Saturday, and then the weekend after that the fall. So the
weekend after this one Minneapolis, Minnesota. The crew is coming together at Dan
Reicherts for an in person middle of the country extra life. Dan, you
get things set up, it is set. I have been spending the last
few weeks getting everything set up, and I think I am in a good
spot. I have a lot of fucking games. I have a lot of
systems that have four controllers. So this is going to be a real local
multiplayer. There's some party games involved in it, and not just the obvious,
you know, Mario parties and stuff. I have plumbed the depths and
we got Dreamcast sixty four original Xbox We all with four controllers, good to
go. Maybe we'll make Robo Misplace, Deal Battalion or something. Who's going
to be there, Grub, Mike Manatti, the wind Bag and some guests
from the area, some somebodies I got. Okay, So it's an extra
midlife crisis as well as yes, oh oh yes, yes, yes,
I can't wait to meet Jesse Vantera finally all right fun. Oh Jesse,
you're watching, Please come by. Look I've got weed. I'll give you
weed, Jesse. Jesse. We all fans of the movie of Brexas please
card you don't live that far for me, Jesse. If anyone knows Jessevntera,
invite him to Extra life for me. Thank you for watching, Thank
you for listening. That was the BombCast Revenge. It's Dan tam think for
thanks for ringing out Jeff back Lark. Thank you for your work as well.
Until next time, everybody, take care of yourself, have a good
one and goodbye. That was a very