Big Questions About The NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Look, this is a different sort of show here. We're starting the week and we're really starting to look forward to the draft in a more meaningful way. Doesn't mean every show moving forward until the Draft is draft related, but I'm honest about where I'm coming from. I've been studying the draft, but now it's time to really cram. It's really time to go into overboard. We're doing forties in free agence with Daniel jerem I every week. He's obviously helping me out. We talked to Adam West last week.

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Speaker 2: That was fun.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to kind of set up this this unofficial start of draft season here on NFL Daily by really just asking the big questions that I want answered over the next month and into the draft. So I'm recognizing that our listeners have a wide base here in terms of knowledge. Some they could break down, like the top ten defensive tackles in this class.

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Speaker 2: They already know it. Some are closer to me or they're behind me.

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Speaker 1: They're casual fans that they just want to start learning about the draft.

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Speaker 2: They don't know everything.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking kind of big picture just to kind of kick off a conversation, and who else but Patrick Laban to really have like a big picture view of it. We're just going to ask some questions that we want to answer. We don't have all the answers, but just just kind of taking a higher look at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the kimono, the swim lanes, all all of the corporate jardan that we can u it's all applicable here and unlike some other vehicles, we will define what they all mean.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here I'm gonna I'll kick us off. Why not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And this is.

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Speaker 1: Again a show I'm kind of thinking about for the fan who doesn't know that the total picture of this class. And I think one thing to know about it that I've learned at least enough, is that the profile of it, it's very deep. It's great at some odd positions that aren't usually as valued running back, tight end guard. And I think the conventional wisdom is after the first couple of picks, really, and there's only a couple of quarterbacks. Everyone knows cam Warden Shoulder standers that the difference between pick five in twenty might not be that great. Hell, the between pick ten and pick seventy might not be as great as it is in normal class. And I guess my question here is like, what impact does that have on the draft overall, in terms of trade, in terms of mock drafters not knowing what the hell's gonna happen, in terms of everything that we get into in the next month or so.

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Speaker 3: I think it makes it more fun, and I think it makes people show more allegiance to the value of the pick than the player. The teams that have the advantage to me in this draft are the ones that have already made the decision about this is the player I value, This is the player, this is the position that I would like him to play, and anybody that's just working off of when we need to amass picks, it's better to have three third round picks than this particular pick. They're going to be at a little bit of a disadvantage because the reason that these teams like the player that they have evaluated in that position is because they've done the work. I don't know that every team is doing the same amount of work, and that's why the results are some teams are continuing to be bad and some teams are continuing to be well.

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Speaker 1: In one of the teams, for instance, that have drafted stupendously over the last few years of Detroit Lions, and they've gotten a lot of pushback on draft day because they view the board differently than everyone else. And I think more teams, to your point, will be like them this year, where they're not going to worry about position value, like they're just gonna worry about the player. Because the sense that you get and it's very hard to know ahead of time, but I gotta admit, if you look back on some draft classes, some of the ones that didn't hit with top end talent, we're the ones that people thought didn't have top end talent.

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Speaker 2: And what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Taking away from that is that teams are just gonna take their guy, and it's not a great class to have the number seven pick or the number ten pick. That I really do think there is something that some of these positions, let's say edge, are getting pushed up a little artificially, where if those guys were in the last couple of classes, they wouldn't necessarily be viewed as potential top ten, top fifteen picks. But it's just gonna be dealer's choice. It is going to make it harder for the greaters, harder for the mock drafters. I think it makes it more fun because we still have plenty of names that we like. It's just unpredictable and there's not consensus, and who wants consensus?

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Speaker 3: Nobody in life.

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Speaker 2: This is good.

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Speaker 1: This exercise is good for me because I don't know if you're like me, Patrick, I think best out loud, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's how I talk through things to.

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Speaker 3: Act learn, literally have conversations with myself out loud. Not just because I it's just the way that it happens.

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Speaker 1: Right, Other people they have to think, they think it through and then they talk. No, I don't do that, not us, all right, give me a question, Okay, it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Along a similar idea to yours, And I think it adds a lot of randomness because so much of this draft is not just evaluating the decision that you want to make. It's evaluating the decision that you want other people to make. What impact do you think it will be that arguably one of the top I'll say, the best player in this draft, the top three players in this draft. Teams don't even know what position other teams want to play him at.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so those three would be Travis Hun or Abdull Carter and who's the third?

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Speaker 3: However you want, however you want to mix it.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be anyone, just wanted to be like Jalen Walker potentially.

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Speaker 3: I think I think Travis Hunter is the best football player in this draft. And yeah, I feel like a lot of people do, but they don't necessarily agree on what to do with him. And I think when you're evaluating how other people are going to pick or make that decision or perhaps trade, it puts you in a situation where you don't know what because it's hard enough to know what they're going to do anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremiah had Hunter falling to the Patriots at four in his latest mock and there's logic behind why that would happen. Two quarterbacks go ahead of him, and Abdell Carter is seen as just clearly the best edge, clearly the best defensive player pass rusher in this class. And yet from the outside looking in, Travis Hunner, of course at Colorado, plays a full compliment of snaps on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 3: It's insane.

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Speaker 1: At wide receiver and cornerback. It is not a good cornerback class.

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Speaker 2: He would be.

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Speaker 1: He is the best cornerback in this class, maybe by a lot. Will Johnson's got his fans out there.

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Speaker 2: John A.

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Speaker 1: Barron has his fans, but certainly Hunter is number one. Then at wide receiver, He's clearly number one at the wide receiver, And I just wonder does it is it going to be team dependent what they see him as, because if I'm Travis Hunter, I just saw Jamar Chase on his extension get like forty in new money per year, and yet I saw, you know, the Texans cornerbacks Stingley get about you know, thirty in new money and twenty three in real money. It's funny wide receivers actually get more money, which would tell me teams value wide receivers a little bit more. Maybe they're a little more stable than cornerbacks. So I don't think it's crazy at all that teams will see him as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, you know, somebody Travis has representation and they're going to you know, subsume three percent of his career earnings. It's it's up to them to determine a new pay structure, perhaps per snap right of some sort of way, because the traditional means won't do him, won't do him service as a player who plays both sides of the.

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Speaker 1: Ball, depending on how much he plays both sides of the ball. I just think Travis high as a story has randomly been undersold. I mean, everyone knows Travis Hunner. He's a Heisman Trophy winner. He's getting you know, a lot of attention in this draft, certainly, but maybe not even as much as Shudar Standers.

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Speaker 2: I've covered the NFL for twenty years. It's nothing. Never been a player like them.

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Speaker 1: There's never been a player like them in the history of football. And you can go, oh, well, what about Becca, who's that guy who? What about back in like the fifties and the forties, you know, smoking Chuck Berrik, smoking the heater. It's like, yeah, the sport wasn't integrated back then, it was barely professional. You just can't compare it. It's true what he was doing what they were doing back then. The guys that were playing that was badass, like incredible athletes. But you just can't compare the sport, let's say, since the merger, even if we want to be generous, and there's been nothing since the merger of anything like this, And I'm I can't help but think of show Hey a little bit and people thinking that wouldn't really work the way that they thought it was gonna work, and it did. Athletes are getting better in every single sport. They're just the greatest athletes of all timer right now, because that's how it always is. So why couldn't he just be the best at both positions? And who knows, maybe he can't play eighty snaps a game. I'm not saying one hundred and twenty. Well, maybe he can play forty on both sides.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And that's a value and it messes up, right, It fundamentally changes everybody's value ads or what what it means.

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Speaker 2: You should take him first overall, doesn't it? Because you just got the best at both spots? Me right? To me?

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Speaker 3: It makes sense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, does it make sense to them? I think it does. I think people will be so intrigued. I don't care what the mocks say from now until then, I'm gonna believe that Travis Hunter goes over Abdol Carter cam Woor. It's another thing because he's a quarterback, and I get why quarterbacks just get taken in front of any non quarterbacks. But I won't believe that the Patriots can get Travis Hunter until happens, unless they're training up because I just don't believe that teams would pass on this man. And I don't think they would pass it up for Should Sanders either, So I still think he's going like top two in this class.

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Speaker 3: There's there's president right on using cap space to acquire draft picks. And if you miss, yeah, if you miss right on the godwins of the world on you know, the Stanleys of the world, and you have some cap space, why.

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Speaker 1: Not because if you're going to give up it or like an extra draft pick to move up for Travis Hunter, you just got another draft pick by taking him, because you're getting the top cornerback in the top receiver.

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Speaker 2: In this class.

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Speaker 3: Two for one.

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Speaker 1: It's I think it's it's breaking people's brains. That was one of my questions too. It's like, what do they see him as I'm gonna go? How high do the second level of quarterbacks go so too high? So Shaudur Sanders is fascinating. I don't think he gets out of the top ten ultimately. We talked about him a little bit with with Adam West on Friday Show. I think the next crop of quarterbacks are fascinating, and I think there's consensus around that the top three of that group is Jackson Dart, Tyler Shuck and Jalen Milroe in whatever order you want to put him. And if you told me someone else pops up higher than any of those, it's not that crazy because none of these guys are incredible prospects. Dart is in DJ's top fifty and ultimately made his first round mock draft. We've started to see this weird Tyler Shuck Brown's connection popping up, like I've seen it from a couple of places locally, and then DJ said it two. It makes me think there's something something going on there where they're going to take Carter Hunter early and then like Shuck, they're saying, well, he's a big guy who fit in the ena AFC North. It's like yeah, but he shrinks away from pressure that you need in the AFC North too. So I don't know, but it's how high did these guys go because people talk themselves into the quarterbacks every year, and yet sometimes they really don't get taken high. It was just a couple of years ago that ultimately the Malik Willis draft class and Desmond Rinder, those guys didn't get taken until the third round, and so that could happen with these guys as well. And yet there's so many teams patrick that need quarterbacks in this class. Let's just quickly go through them. I would categorize these four teams as desperate, Brown's, Giants, Steelers, Titans. So that's already four and we only have two higher tier quarterbacks, and then three more in this and then two more teams I would throw in there as pretty desperate, and that would be the Saints and the Jets. I don't think the Jets viewed themselves that way. I think they might just be punting on this class. But I would say they don't have a long term solution, so I personally would would put them in that category.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think the problem is going to be the success of the twenty twenty four class where you've got all these guys and a lot of them going into good situations. Bo Nicks being able to play, and that Sean Payton offense to play pretty well get better as the season goes on, Jayden Daniels having arguably the best for quarterback season of all time. I mean, still plenty to feel great about Caleb season in Chicago despite how much of a chaotic mess it was, right and so you had all these guys be successful and JJ gets hurt, So it's kind of a nothing there right where it's every year. Can't be like that. And so I think, especially when you talk about like Shuck and.

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Speaker 1: Dart Chuck is a twenty five year old prospect from Louisville who can spin it, who has a lot of pro throws, but also some injury history and seems to really shy is away against pressure.

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Speaker 2: All these guys seem to have a little trouble.

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Speaker 1: They don't seem like three great prospects to me, Dart, mill Row or Shuck. They seem like third or fourth round prospects to meet personally.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to put like the sins of Bran Whedon on Tyler Shuck right for being twenty five years old, but just in terms of like evaluating the growth of a prospect, because I know there's folks out there and it's like, oh, well, the Browns can just take up Dual Carter if he's there, and then wait and take Tyler Shark and not have to worry about Shadur Sanders. I really think there's there's a significant gap to me, yeah, in terms of long term potential between Shaudur Sanders and Tyler Shark, where I think if it's shucked, if it's dark, one of those guys is gonna get taken entirely too early. Probably, you know those out there who believe you can play too early, they're also going to be put in that situation. It's not gonna be good for him.

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Speaker 1: He started college, Shuck did, by the way, and we're going to dive in later in this process. We'll go position by position and get really into these guys. But I was just checking to make sure I was right because I had a feeling he started college the same year as Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence is second, is in his second year of what is already seen as maybe a disappointing contract as a veteran.

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Speaker 3: That'll be the same year as Justin Fields too, and Fields is on his third team.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We got a couple of big picture questions about the twenty twenty five draft class coming up. Back on NFL Daily. We're asking big questions about a big part of our off season. This is the first NFL Daily off season, so we're learning what this pre draft process is going to be like. It's going to be a lesson for all of us. We're going to lean on you, Patrick, lean on me. I think it's better.

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Speaker 3: Learning is a process that's best achieved collaboratively, and so since we're all doing this together, it's going to be better for all.

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Speaker 2: All right, give me a question then.

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Speaker 3: Okay, considering what we just saw in twenty twenty four with Sakwon Barklay Derrick Henry Josh Jacobs, if the Raiders don't pick Ashton genty at six, is it realistic to think the Bears could just stay there and wait what will feel like six hours and pick him at ten. No, like somebody's coming up there.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's coming up I just think the Raiders are going to take it.

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Speaker 3: Like it like overcome. So you think the Bears want Ashton Genty that they need to be on the phone right now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think teams like the Bears or any team are gonna want to trade up for a running back as great and as unique a prospect he is. And one of my questions was about the running backs too, so we'll kind of combine these in mind, was, you know, just how do these running backs shake up fantasy? Just to get into the fantasy of it all? Because, as I mentioned, off the top outstanding running back class, so Ashton Genty, according to Maurice Jones, Drew is the best running back prospect he has scouted in terms of professionally having going through all these guys. And I love that he loves Genty because Genty reminds me a little bit of Maurice Jones, I mean just in terms of absolutely fantastic motor, shakes people off, great vision, can get small in a tight space, but can also run you over a little bit somewhat similar body type to Maurice. Look if you got Maurice that's a top ten pick. Yeah, but there's other guys behind him, o'murray and Hampton, some teams in terms of size, weight, speed, they're gonna love him almost as much as Gent Traveon Henderson from Ohio State, Quinn Schahn Judkins from Ohio State. Hell MJD had Scataboo as his number three running back. Love that, by the way, that was bold. Ultimately, I don't think a team is going to trade up. So if you're the Bears and you do want a running back at ten, and I don't know, man, they might have Will Campbell available to them there.

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Speaker 2: I think you're just.

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Speaker 1: Sitting and waiting and seeing what happens, because whether it's offensive line or running back, I don't think they're going to want to give up draft assets. Ryan Pols is not going to want to do that. I don't think to get to six and maybe the Raiders don't take him. Maybe all that buzz is wrong, but this seems like a buzzy pick Gent to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hard to imagine a player shows Ash and genty going that far down, but we've seen it before. I like six players into my running back review, I think Omarion Hampton. Right, it's gonna come down to how you view the way that he was coached at North Carolina, because I know that there was a lot of those dive places where it seemed like he just wasn't a very imaginative runner, but he was going to get what was blocked. The place where he really signs is that contact balance. But even when you're saying like, oh he's an a at contact balance, Genty's off the charts right in all of these metrics where you watch him and then you watch somebody else, and it's just so dissimilar that I think it warrants if the picks and the value are there and you want the player, which is what you know. I wanted to think about, like just in general about this draft, Yeah, why why sit there and mess around and be like, oh, well we've got this, We've got a third rounder's worth of value in twenty No, like, go get the player.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but the Raider might not want to give him up. I mean, man, would he look cool and silver and black. It's a cool group, gino him Brock, that'd be fun, be a fun team. They have bigger needs though, so they certainly they could go a different position and he could fall to ten. You're absolutely right, and I do think it's interesting these five guys. And then you've got other players that there's some Dylan Sampson from Tennessee, like true believers out there think he's top three or four in this class. There DJ Giddens from Kansas State MJD Is a big fan of like. It is very deep, and there are a lot of teams that need running backs quickly. Browns desperate for one. Steelers, you know, Jalen Warren's there, but they need one. Broncos desperate for one. Raiders don't really have one. I'm not counting Raheem Moster. Cowboys. I think they downgraded this offseason. They desperately need one. I could see them taking one in the first round. The Bears you mentioned, and then there's a secondary list where guys will be getting drafted in the third round here from some of these teams. The Chargers I think need another back. They can't just go with Naji. The Giants need another back. I think they like what they got last year, but not enough that you're not just gonna put the whole thing on your fourth round pick from a year ago Commanders. Maybe they want one of their own guys, the new guys, the Saints, the forty nine ers, the Chiefs. Like, there's a lot of different running back hungry teams. I'm gonna ask a question, how do the Giants, Browns, and Saints front offices specifically think is the best way to save their jobs?

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Speaker 2: Because those are the three teams I think.

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Speaker 1: That go into the draft with the most pressure on them, needing to deliver something.

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Speaker 3: Now, with the first two, it seems obvious the way to save your job is to take the quarterback and have some sort of promise with the quarterback. In twenty twenty five, if there's not that and they don't go to the playoffs, I don't think either one of those situations is viable in the long term. We've discussed Lumas situation. I don't I don't know what it actually takes.

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Speaker 1: I know he's got he's standing on the table saying, you know, we need to save our job, and it just that's I just think those three teams will be interesting. I think they need immediate impact drafts, So to me, it'll be interesting to see what they decided to do.

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Speaker 2: Give me another question here, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So we've considered, right that this free agent situation on linemen, like after after the most recent signings, like Cam Robinson goes that there's a significant drop off, right, and we we know like there's there's a premium at this position and we've seen like a huge run. Is it is it not conceivable that we purely just get lineman for like seven picks in a row in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good call that I think. I really believe that we're entering a new phase of the NFL where I think the premium on offensive lineman has gone to another level. Whereas, yes, there's always been a premium on them, but now the guards, this is a really good guard class. They're getting pushed up even more. Look at what they're making in free agency. The centers certainly as well. Teams hit on a bunch of rookie centers last year. This is not supposed to be a great rookie center class, but it's a good rookie guard class. And I do think that there's a premium on tackles to the point now where they're getting pushed up like a round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And aenough are there good enough players at these positions to really support like those guys getting so high, cause if you go and you go through like the top one hundred prospects rankings, like Eric Aedholmes does a good job of that, there's not a ton of guys near the top. Will Campbell from Lsu, Arman Membu from Missouri. They're legit up there and they're not going to make it out of the top ten. But there's not a lot of tackles that people are excited about in this class.

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Speaker 2: So like, how how far do you get pushed up?

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Speaker 1: Because you better be right too, Like, yeah, you need to find guards and tackles in the draft. But when you miss on him, like, no one feels bad for you. Uh, like kan Wu for the Panthers have been waiting for him to turn it around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think like with Zabel with Banks, like some of these, some of these.

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Speaker 1: Like Calvin Banks from Texas, He's a very divisive prospect.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like the spots where we're projecting teams to come up and reach to these quarterbacks. Uh, there's going to be an offensive lineman where a team is looking at looking at their cap structure Strafford, like they are going to want to have these years of control for these for these linemen where it's like, why am I going to swing at this quarterback that's I don't know, mm hmm, versus taking this guy where he makes the numbers work out for me long term if I think I'm going to have my job long term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's where a guy like Josh Simmons, who's coming off of a really serious injury, maybe he gets taken in the middle to the late first round.

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Speaker 2: He was from Ohio State. Kind of reminds me of Paris Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually, now that I think of it, and he's got his former offensive line coach in Arizona, maybe he's an option for them in the middle of the first round where you start taking bigger swings. Gray's Abel you mentioned, who can play center, play guard, play tackle. Probably he's going to play center. Josh Connery the Oregon tackle Like, these guys are going to get pushed up. Speaking of pushed up, my last question here is just how high to the top of the tight ends go, because, like I said, it's a great class. You're not going to be able to find brock Bauers every year. But coming off a couple of classes now where the tight ends came in and made pretty big impacts. Where coaches are being creative and what they're asking their tight ends, maybe not asking him to just be in there in line blocking, but figuring out the plays where they actually can block and not kill you, like a Sam Laporta when he didn't necessarily show that in college or some other players like that.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, brock Bauers is kind of like a big wide receiver and it's great at it.

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Speaker 1: How high do they go now in the first round, especially that's Tyler Warren and that's Colston Loveland. Could they go both of them or one of them ahead of any wide receiver in this class? Like that's sort of where we're talking about them. Yeah, any non Travis Hunter, right, So I'm not counting Travis Hunter. That's a fair point. Any just like only wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they could. I don't necessarily see them because even though I'm pretty sure brock bowers rookie season wasn't a surprise to anybody, Like anybody that saw him play Georgia and evaluated him, It's like, Okay, brock Bowers did brock Bowers things? Did we go back to the Kyle Pitts draft where that hasn't necessarily been successful. But like even those guys right, didn't go ultimately that high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like now that we're like ours fell the what thirteen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so with like Loveland, right, I just it's tough to imagine the value to the position going up more, even if even if you say that this draft isn't as talent heavy as previous years.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, the guys getting taken. Someone's got to go between five and fifteen. I don't think those guys would have gotten gone between five and fifteen the last few years.

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Speaker 2: And it might be Tyler Warreon.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren is a fascinating and weird evaluation. I think some teams will wonder how much he translates. But also he's just a total beast with the ball in his hands from Penn State, just dominating games. And someone's gonna fall in love with that guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so like Kyle Pitts ultimately did go before Jamar Chase, but the quarterbacks probably pushed brock Bauers down. You know.

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Speaker 2: Wait, Kyle Pitts went ahead of Jamar Chase, Is that right?

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Speaker 3: I think so? Right? I thought he went and like it was was it wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Four?

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Speaker 2: Oh? That's right.

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Speaker 1: You don't know why my brain has thought that he went like eight in that class. I was trying to be generous. That's where Drake London went to the Falcons. That's what I was I was thinking of, And so that's kind of rough. I feel bad for Pitts just that he went ahead of Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: There's still a chance and who knows what Falcons Jamar Chase's career would have been.

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Speaker 2: Like, he would have been probably probably would have been five.

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Speaker 1: Would Drake London has still shown that he's Drake London. And as great as Drake London is, he's not quite Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the whole. You know, it's hard not to look at the draft as like the individual constituents, but you have to look at the whole thing. And I know folks are like, well, hey, you can you can get Bucky Irving in the fourth round. If you knew he was Bucky Irving, then he wouldn't be he wouldn't be good lasting to the four right.

00:28:41
Speaker 1: And that's why these tight ends I think are going to go pretty early, potentially both in the top twenty, maybe Tyler Wood, maybe either one could go in the top ten. Nothing would be I think a shock here. And then there's Elijah Arroyo from Miami, There's Mason Taylor from LSU. These are guys with transferable NFL skills. We've seen that these guys don't really make it out of the top fifty to fifty five, and so I think the question for a lot of these teams, and this is more of the big picture thought, is like do you take the tight end or do you take the receiver prospects? So there's four really solid ones and great ones at the top, but also some good, maybe second round options. Do you have one more question?

00:29:18
Speaker 3: I've emptied the clip.

00:29:20
Speaker 1: I appreciate the honesty. We're just getting warmed up this week. I'm excited that's some of your favorites on the show joining us. Well, we got Shook, we got Colleen and Shorten later in the week. Look when it's time, when we're finally starting to cram for the NFL Draft, Patrick like free agency, it's over.

00:29:43
Speaker 2: Football's back