Club 520 - Ish Smith on his record-breaking NBA career, Wake Forest team with Jeff Teague

Alright, we back at the episode of Club twenty Podcasts. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:10.319 I'm the host, my name is DJ Well special guest. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:12.760 To my left, were gonna introduce my man's last to 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.360 my far left, usual suspect, my dog Bishop after prailes, 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:17.080 my nigga be here. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.079 How you what today? Man? 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:18.480 Cool? 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:19.680 And let's get to it. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:21.639 They got they got it, tally man. They said, how 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.560 many episodes you're gonna have the violent shoes on? 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:24.840 Man? That the white license? 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:26.360 Oh? 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.040 Season two? 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:28.040 Season two? 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.320 What's up? Inspiring Doe boys across the nations. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:32.680 Start worrying about it? Fuck y'all. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.280 To my right, a juicual, my dog young your team 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:37.839 you up? 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.520 Man, bro got some weak heat on today. I don't 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.080 know they was weak closing. It is kind of weak though, 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.879 but the SB so no matter. Flex If you don't 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.640 you know what I'm saying, that jar a little like today, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.440 We're gonna make sure that's accounting for Yeah, I oh, 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.960 like twenty dollars eleven, Mike, you count it. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.600 That's Hayten, that's Niche Lokey too. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.280 But to my left man for guests, man, we got 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.919 one of the fastest players to ever play fucking NBA 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.320 record breaking the NBA and just finishes last year in 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.080 the n b A coming off a championship. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.160 Conference last season. We know where you're at now, point guard. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.600 Respect we're. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.440 Uh, one of the coldest point guards I ever played 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.600 against him, play with probably the fastest, one of the 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:29.920 nicest dudes you ever met. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.319 I'm surprised he hasn't won one. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:32.960 Of the awards for the nicest dudes in the NBA, 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.479 for sure, But my dog is Smith. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:36.959 Hey, man, I appreciate you. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.760 Yeah, man, appreciate you. Put up the five twenty man 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.280 all right, now, you fastest? Obviously we know that who 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.040 is the warm player you played against? Like, damn, he 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.000 might be faster than. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:52.080 Me him over there. Really Yeah, no, I'm not gassy, man. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.720 I don't think people understand like we know Derrick Rose 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.720 his that m v P year that he was on 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:02.840 one and then uh Wall was fast. But just Westbrook, 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.560 Westbrook was fast to Westbrooks fast. Yeah, Westbrook was fast. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.520 No, but you remember when you and Todd Lawson went 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:08.760 at it. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.400 Let's before you get going there. I was talking to 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:18.160 Marren Williams today, so we was talking. I was like, yo, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:26.200 remember that Carolina game. Many Jeff looked at the bitchy. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.840 I don't even want to go to this k gardy, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.000 I said, y'all, Jeff was on one matter of fact, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.720 I didn't even look at the rim that whole game. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.560 I was like, man, I'm throwing it the Jeff the 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:42.800 whole game, and uh about me not? Cast need to know, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.400 like I'm looking at the camera, like I know, we 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.200 get the podcast. We joke around you, you know what 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.160 I mean. We have a good time. But cast need 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.200 to know, like Jeff tige man, he was he was. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.200 He was you know what I mean, Like he was him, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.360 he really was. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.160 But him and Ty Lawson in that game they went 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.079 layup for lay. That ship was four points that game 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:06.760 he had thirty four. He had thirty four. Man, listen 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.200 when you and that's just the mark of a point guard. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.639 Like my job to make sure he ate like he 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.040 was rolling and so like I gave him the ball 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.280 and he kept it going. But uh, those five dudes 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:22.840 like Jeff thy lost was fast to myself, ship, John Wall, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.960 Derrick Rose, Russell West. But it was fast fast ship. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.480 That was yeah, it was fast. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.720 Who else man, you call some deer fox smoke yet yo? 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.200 Yeah that's what yo. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.720 He he when he first came in league. He up 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.160 there too, the fox up there too. Uh think about 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.240 dee Fox though, he ain't got me yet because as 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.720 soon as he scored, Man, get the ball out quick. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.360 I'm running right like you better be doing like this 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.480 so uh yeah, nah, he ain't. He ain't embarrassed me yet. 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.480 He ain't, but he this year he might have my knees. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:08.040 I gotta want my knees up. Man, that's crazy. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:14.240 It was crazy, bro already already ready, already looking at 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.000 you when y'all be letting them trainers, get y'all ready 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:16.840 for the game, I'm like. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.040 The job, man, want this gu. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.760 Athletic trainers as Wow, we just add them to the photography. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:39.320 Listening with the party promoters for sure. Sorry yeah yeah 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.760 so nah but defox defoxes. I've seen the part we 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.840 just talking about. Defose He he wanted them to. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:52.320 Man, but damn, my career for show for real is Garland. Yeah, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.880 but yeah, we got started with the orders. Man. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.480 You know you're from North Carolina. Man, when did you 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.359 start off playing ball? And how did that start for you? 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.040 Man? I was a kid like my dad, I think 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.760 he uh smith, yeah, my dad like he wanted to, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.240 like play basketball. Everybody used to joke around, like he 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.120 used to play in a thirty five and over church 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.080 league and so like for him, like that was his thing, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.599 Like he wanted to And I think he just you know, 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.839 put all that into me at Paul's and uh wanted 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.480 me to, like I gotta. 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.120 Anybody outside of the field. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:26.960 Yeah, I got you, I got you. I gotta make 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:27.720 sure I'm on the point. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.560 So yeah, it started my dad, like and my sister 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.600 she she hooped my brother Jeff no autumn like they played. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.520 They might didn't play at the highest level, but they 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:42.640 That's what kind of started when I was a kid 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.760 and started when it was a kid. I played church 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.680 league when I was like five six years old, and 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.120 then I kind of just ran with it from there. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.000 Yeah that's when you realize you was fast on everybody 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:50.600 else at five. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.800 Yeah, you know what's crazy. I always been fast. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.880 I can tell yeah, I always been fast. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.760 Like and it ain't on on like if we got 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.599 on the line and like ran suicide, I'm not that fast. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.479 As soon as we get a basketball, like and like 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:04.200 I was out. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.840 Literally the fastest the ball every sing man. When Jeff 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.960 wanted to be fast. He wanted to, but but this 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.719 is what I learned to cases full court crossing over 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.960 run as fast. I used to work on that joint 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.880 in the gym. White full speed crossovers. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.279 Yeah, we used to. I used to work on it. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.760 I was on you and Eric that this kid, Yeah, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.279 I heard Eric go was problem. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.160 Yeah. He probably one of the best hig School players 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.479 to ever played basketball, y'all. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.040 I was talking to Gordon hay Well. He was talking 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.840 about all the boys that was in Indiana basketball during 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:37.200 that time. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:40.680 Nice run. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.760 It was a probably y'all had it all man. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.640 And what's crazy is Gore was cold, but like he 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.559 was alway, he was my year. Jeff was our seven. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.600 So they had our sectional a lot. Imagine being as 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:52.919 good as you are and still having to deal with 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.200 another NBA player of your section. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:55.240 That's crazy. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.520 Any of the basketball, especially that time period, was different 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.720 because everybody had a pro player at one point? 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:02.520 Was it like that where you was from? 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.920 Man? Honestly, we had Jamie Skiing. Jamie was good man. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:09.280 He went to vc U. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.880 That was the final four run. Who was Steph was from? 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:17.440 You know? I grew up playing with Steph. Funny story, Yo, 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.600 So Jeff, we're watching. Uh, Jeff came to We was 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.960 at at what's a much joint? When you go in 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.120 the back door, I don't even remember it. Wait, so 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.760 you came to the room hung out. We was used 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.560 to play the game at uh at a phase room 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:32.920 video game. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.640 So we was playing video. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.680 Games and and Jeff like, this is Steph. The first 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.920 year of Steph at Hoop. I was like, yeah, you 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.400 know I used to play you waste that you didn't man, 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.160 I said, yeah, you don't remember. I play like I 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.120 played you in and whatever the case is. So they 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.280 end up doing something I think, yeah, all American things. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.960 And Jeff was like, oh you did play. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.440 I was like yeah, I was like this nigga. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:04.960 Yeah it was a nigga too named Neil Mack that 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.200 was so down. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:10.000 That's the homie. So he worked, Uh he do training. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.480 So yeah, so he was getting me ready for the season. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:14.800 And then I ain't gonna lie to you like I 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.960 was like, I ain't trying to play no more. Like 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.120 I was really like chilling, and uh, that's still my guy. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.440 We talked all the time, being d back. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.480 That nigga was at five start. Came with me bro 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.280 a while back. He was the coast nigga in the gym. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.280 You know, fire start crazy. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:29.760 Yeah. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:30.960 L D. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.440 Smith was in from North Carolina to who will. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:41.120 Yeah he was Jeff l D. One of the most 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:49.080 athletics all Jose aside. No was that's our guy. Many 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.920 shout out to him, crazy shout out. He worked with 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:52.720 the G League now. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.840 Uh j Yeah, he worked for Brooklyn. Yeah. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.920 Man, Yeah, when I'm talking about athletic, can defend two 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.880 time All defensive Uh, we got man, we got a 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.920 super talented team. But l D was there. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:09.200 Who else? 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.439 I don't know who else? Who else was it? 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.640 Donnelle Mack had a niggname, Sonny. I can't think of 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:16.960 that name. We'll get back to it. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:25.400 You tapped, Yeah, real North Carolina world wild took my job. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:27.760 I was supposed to be scamming these little necks a 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:28.560 long time ago. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.720 Bro High School. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.520 This is part of my cold niggas in North Carolina. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.120 I just know y'all don't really get spoken on. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.600 Everybody always speaking on the high school basketball back then, 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.720 we was like prominent big for sure. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.560 But Pauls. But y'all d C North Carolina, New York, 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.160 y'all have some motherfuckers too out there. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.800 Brod is by the point when he's growing up. Yeah, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.240 you ain't know that na growing up? 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:57.360 Who else is? 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.680 Remember used to play a care Atlanta will Graves? 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.920 Oh yeah, William Graves had a clip Nigga. Yeah it 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.160 was nice for sure, that's sixth class. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:12.400 Yeah yeah, nigga really tapped in Nigga a tar Hill 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:13.920 North Carolina. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.120 I told you I really like Carolina Squad. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.439 Who you grew up up? I ain't gonna lot to you. Man, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.280 my fault wait for hers? It was Carolina. How did 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.199 you get to wait? Like? Why did you go to 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:25.920 Wabody else? 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.040 Oh? Well, I ain't gonna lie to you. So when 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.600 I was a kid, like Muggy Bowl is my favorite player, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.480 I knew I wan't gonna be tall. So I was like, man, 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.160 Muggy you know he fast whatever the case is. So 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.240 I knew he went to Wake Forest. Then Wake had 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.120 this other buzz with Tim Duncan Randolph Childrens. 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.520 I'm like, oh bet, Carolina was like, I ain't gonna. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.959 Lie to you. Like they had uh Antoine James and 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:55.200 Vince Carter. They was loaded and colder like yeah they was, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.559 that's colder flop man. They was cold blooded, like from 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.240 top to bottom and so like I was a fan 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:03.720 of them, but I you know what I mean, I 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.400 was thinking as I start getting older, like and they 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.480 ain't recruit me like they recruit outside of the state 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:09.880 of wherever they were going with, you know what I mean, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.520 and that Carolina. So I didn't get who they want. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.680 So then all of a sudden, Jay like we what happened? 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.880 They and then Chris Paul came, Josh Howard. Josh Howard. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.280 And then way Fares always recruited off Carolina kids and 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.280 they would use it to be like yo, Duke and 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.480 Carolina ain't offer y'all, and so that. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.320 We use that like to go play. Then when we 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:32.800 were you know, different things like. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:33.880 That, I don't know how we got J T. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.559 Chris. Yeah, see that's what it was like. Chris had 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:38.240 that buzz going. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.000 We was like, yo, and you know, I didn't want 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.920 to play no princess that offense, So I want to 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:43.560 play fast. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.840 But that's that's really be honest with you. Like I 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:47.760 was like, Yo, this point guard. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.920 You if you really think about wake Forest, like it's 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.040 really point guard, you really think about. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.959 It, like what the school as you thinking about though, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:57.520 I say. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.959 I don't know nobody else. They let us play like 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:01.280 the NBA game for real. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.000 I start of Kentucky off. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.880 I can't think of too many schools to just consistently 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.200 put out guards at that level, especially league guards. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.160 But who out of Like you got Kentucky, you got 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:17.360 John Wall and Eric Blessing, they got Okay. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.160 I don't even like the niggas. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:27.439 But it's just like and then like the last ten years, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.439 Cole started like, yeah, got. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:35.319 So you're trying to give yeah ship, You're trying to 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.959 get a ship to wait for us for a point guard. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:43.240 You though, after you start naming, once you start naming 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:48.440 all them, we've done got rings we dot, we. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.800 Got yeah, we got rings? Man, that was crazy, j 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:57.280 you go ahead, man, don't mean nothing. How was it 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.200 waiting for your first year? 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:01.280 How was your first year at wait? 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.559 First year? It wasn't good? Like, yeah, it wasn't good man. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.000 We was like fifteen and sixteen. It was like five 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.680 and eleven. In the ACC, I tore a ligaman in 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.560 my thumb. I had never been hurt before in my life, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.440 like tour ligamany in my thumb. Like the this was 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.320 crazy about college man like, you know, God rest his soul. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.800 Skip process like I remember I tore my ligament. We 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.120 were playing air force in my so my thumb like 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.480 it's down here and skip like. Man, you know I 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:34.400 recruited like tough guy. I'm like yeah, like I'm like dang, 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.520 like all right, man, let me let me take you. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.720 Every time somebody hit, like I would get this rush 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.240 to my all. So we finished the season whatever the case. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.840 But we knew we had like a really good recruiting 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.840 class in James, Jeff and Gary. So we was like, Yo, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.480 we're gonna be striight. We're gonna be better next year. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.880 We're gonna be way better next year. And when they 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.360 came in, man, we just got like my sophomore junior year, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.960 we was we got Yeah, we was turned man. We 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.559 had wait, yeah, we turned we had wake like turned man, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.800 we had wake turned up. I'm talking about people used 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.520 to come into the practice facility and like sitting there 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.960 and watch us practice. I'm talking about I'm saying, play 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.840 pick up. They're sitting in there like hey, Yo, you know, 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.880 hey what time y'all playing pick up? Was like we're 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:16.880 gonna be in there like four o'clock. They used to 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.480 sit in there like be like locked in, be like 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.160 fifty people in the gym just watching. I'm like, yo, 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.960 this it was crazy because we had talent. I mean 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.400 you think about the talented guy. We had four guys 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.440 that played ten plus years in the league in fact, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.640 and I'm talking about like you know, legit, and that 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.680 they weren't just on the team whatever the case is. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:35.640 Yeah, so. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.760 That's crazy. That don't usually happen. And wake ain't seen 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.760 it since they definitely won't y'all. And I'm looking right 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.240 here just to get right here. Yes, wait, get my 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.440 boy in the Hall of Fame and this jersey retiring? 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:50.960 He do that? 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:51.240 No? 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.200 I mad dad seriously about wait for man. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.280 Yeah, but but we talked about listen, were talking about 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.480 on the court, though, talk about it is we're talking 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.640 about on the court. You got to give him his respect. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:11.160 All American was second, which is crazy. He got second 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:11.920 team All a c C. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.040 But All America. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:13.720 That's why I. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.000 Compared Antonio Brown all the time. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:24.040 Yah, they think about second team All a CC. Listen, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.800 we was the number one team in the country. That's 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.000 only happened one other time. That's Chris Paul. You average 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.600 twenty in college. You're not harder than the average twenty 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.600 in college hard bro, bro, that's hard. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.200 And then a champion All star come on, man like thing. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:44.400 For sure, like talking about his off court activity. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:45.320 That was my dude. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.720 Like he was he was like I met though, Yeah, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.160 the first time we met, talk about that. It was 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.360 always nice as hell. So when I met him, I'm 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.280 like he was on the recruit visit. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:55.880 Yeah, I met him. He was cool as hell my 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.160 recruiting visits. But I was an asshole. Y'all know me. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:58.920 I'm an asshole. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.560 He was just quiet. Want I don't talk. When I 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.760 first met, I ain't say a word. But when I 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.960 got to wait for its, it's like my dad, you 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:06.640 know my dad. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:07.320 He messed up. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:07.640 Dude. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.680 He like they already got a point guard. He let 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.720 the acc and assists I did. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.640 I'm like, damn, He's like, you probably gonna play, so 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.560 you know me, I'm like, I'm on some like man, 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:19.920 fuck that nigga. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.800 That's how I'm coming in. But he knew how to 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:22.120 get you. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.480 Yeah, so I go, I come in. It's like, what's 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.320 the baby. I'm like, man, what the fuck is shaking 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.600 my head for the nigga know I about taking spot, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.080 Like That's what I'm here for. 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.160 He like, yeah, y'all need something to eat? You want 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.280 to go somewhere, ye want to do it. I'm like, 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:34.560 he keep talking to me. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.120 So the whole time, I'm not trying to talk to 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.400 this nigga, I'm telling Gear Geary like, nah, is cool 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:38.920 as hell? 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:39.240 Bro. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.760 I'm like nah, Gary like nah, Bro, you tripping. I'm like, nah, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:43.640 I ain't fucking with it. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:44.920 So we go hoop. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.600 I'm going straight at you and he going back at me, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.000 and I'm like, damn, he can hoop. I'm like, fuck it, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.400 I'm gonna keep going. So we start talking and Ship. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.640 I'm like, yeah, shoot, nigga. He like da da da da. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:55.240 He going back. 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.240 He was like he looked at me. He was like, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.680 all right, bet the niggas started. When we start doing 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.000 they start doing a pick a roll called waggle. I 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.760 ain't never guard no screening row man. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.399 Man. They killing us. All the football players and they're like, 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.680 oh shit, oh Ship. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.119 He was like, yeah, motherfucker's gonna have to learn something. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.360 I was like, I'm like, damn, so I leave. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:16.320 It's Gary. We go in the room. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.200 Gary like that nigga who came. I was like, man, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.399 nigga all right. I was like, I'm gonna take it 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.280 spoter niggas like nah. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.600 But you know what we did though, man, we uh 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.000 one thing about me. Man, My mom and dad taught 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.679 me this, like you respect everybody like they game what 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.879 they can do. Like I learned this when I was 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.719 I was young. So you know in your area, you're 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.840 the coldest in your area. I went to the Nike Jamboree. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.399 I don't know if y'all remember that Nike jam. So 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.359 I went to the Nike Jamboree. Man, I see there. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.480 I'm like, yo, Kevin Love. I'm like, oh, I ain't 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.040 that good. But it taught me like yo, these like 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.919 it's dudes all over this country that got game. So 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.879 when Jeff came, I was just like, yo, he's just 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.680 gonna make us better. Like and our games. We both 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.879 needed the ball. But I was so like, I. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.880 Was like, man, do you like I ain't tripping? 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.120 And so like his freshman year average fourteen and then 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.480 his second year you average twenty. And he'll tell you like, man, 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.800 the donkey had in Maryland. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:16.879 Oh. I was like, man, I'm giving it to the 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:21.400 homie like remember, yeah, Like what a different nigga I'm 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.520 trying to say. I told you he's the nicest person every. 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:25.760 I'm also somebody I know. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.359 Like so for Jay, like you just got Paul's like 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:30.440 cracking shield Like. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.359 That's why I said, Paul, That's what I said, Paul, 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.959 I just got got up nigga, one of them ones. 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.280 Y'all. 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:48.080 Don't start that. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.280 Don't start that. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:54.720 No text message you have, but that's how Jay is 0:18:55.760 --> 0:19:01.880 trying to crack the ship. You turn D twelve, Yo, 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:07.520 Oh my, tell the story show with Jay, like you know, 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.679 he was like he tried to come off like, yo, 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.359 I ain't talking to nobody like I'm locked in. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:13.440 And this is the thing I did. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.800 I did love about him, like he he knew what 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.560 he wanted when he came into school, like he knew 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:19.840 like y'a, I'm gonna be here for a little bit 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.240 then I'm out, Like, yo, I'm not I ain't coming 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.480 in here, Like I remember, yo, who would you work 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.160 it out with? First day at workouts, he was shooting 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.119 and somebody was like, hey, we could get your shooting. 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.639 He was like, I ain't doing that, like yo, this 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.480 is no. He was realized he was like, I ain't 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.040 doing that. Like y'all recruited me average twenty something in 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:43.199 high school with the same jump shot facts and I 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.800 was like, dang, it was all gullible. They like this, 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.480 do it like this, and I was man, all flicked 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.920 and everything was like, nah, this is why I'm doing it, 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.560 like y'all, I ain't changing. And I respected that. Like 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.800 he was like he knew what he wanted to do. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.720 He'd be like, y'all is I ain't lifting no ways, 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:00.080 I'm just. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.400 Doing push up. That's what he's doing. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:05.280 Man. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.240 Niggas was man, they was. He was crazy. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:08.440 Bro. 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.840 Man, y'all talking about a nigga arms. Bro. They had 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.080 it was on steroids, bro, that's all they had us doing. 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.040 He was so strong. I was like, that's when I 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:18.480 started lifting because I was like. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.720 Now, but Jay used to just do push ups like 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.080 push him, sit up. I come in the room when 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:27.840 I come, hollered them him and G and do. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:39.200 With this loose white you know. He was just getting 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:39.560 it like. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.119 G yeah for real and so uh. But like just 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.439 stuff like that. He was already like, and this is 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:47.960 why I give him a lot of them. He already 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.200 knew what he wanted when he came into school, like y'all, 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.240 you could see somebody like he was going like, y'all, 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.879 I'm locked in and go I'm locked in. And so 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.879 for me, it was a situation where I was like, dang, y'all. 0:20:58.160 --> 0:20:59.879 So I ain't never like, had no ill will to 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:02.399 a nah. That was my guy, like he don't know this, 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.359 like we took it, and then he'd be trying to 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:05.080 fake on people. 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.240 So we had a what class. I'm abody to tell you. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.800 We had a class, so Jeff act like he. 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.280 I don't know what's going on we're doing. And we 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.280 had a public speaking class, right damn. And so people 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.439 be sitting in there like, yeah, man, Jeff, Yeah, you 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.119 know it's you're so articulate, you know, I mean, I 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.119 call him, you know what I mean? Like they you 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.040 know what I mean, so articulately whatever. I'm like, y'all, 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:28.679 I could just know how to switch it up. 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:30.120 I can be around y'all. And then I go there 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:30.880 and like be cool. 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.440 So Jeff get up there, and when I say this 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.960 negro I'm talking about, he gave the best speech. 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:45.840 People sitting there like this like Jeff did. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.159 Now he killed it did I change his voice? 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.320 Wait for he did. 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.840 But but the thing I respected it though, Like I said, 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.080 like when he came in, I knew he was called 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.240 and I knew like if we was gonna get that, 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.199 we wanted to get to like he had to be 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:03.879 the best version of him. James had to be the 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.399 best version of him for Rupe l d Chase, David, 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.400 all those guys had to be the best version of him. 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.840 And we weren't gonna win if he wasn't getting a dug. 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:13.360 It was just the facts, like. 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.879 He No, that ain't true, because you you the reason 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.879 we all got better because he was like you was motivated, 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.240 like we always motivated differently, but you would like push 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.600 everybody like we going to hoop, like some of. 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.240 Our teammates didn't want to go. 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.119 So he will say something like that's why we were 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.600 sad last year and then they had come hoop Like 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:31.879 he was like the leader. 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:36.720 It was nof segondate. 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:40.240 So his first his first year, we like you know 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.280 what I mean, We were like we actually should have 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:43.520 made it to the n I T that year. We 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:43.879 should have. 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.440 Oh, I can't wait talk about tournaments since you're the leader. 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:55.359 Yeah, he was, I was, I got something your story luck. Yeah, 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.040 let's talk about that second or whatever. 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:58.919 That second year. You should have lived that. 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:04.199 He was the leader, go ahead, hey, so much I 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.480 think about Remember he was in the locker room when we. 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.679 Lost and we lost state, right. 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.359 Ja said, yeah, I'm going to the league. 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:17.720 Hey, hard man, I apologizeta tell this story. So Harve 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.200 was sitting there crying like, hey, y'all got so much talent, 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:26.600 and man, y'all sitting here, yeah hard. Everybody got their 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:32.000 hands down and like hard crying. And I felt bad 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.440 hard because it was the senior year. It was Jeff 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:36.520 had the choice to come back and go. James had 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.880 the choice to come back, and Gou had a choice, 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:40.960 you know, I mean we all was like Harv was 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.960 like the only singing him Micha Lapour and Bobby. 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.800 But Harv was like, man, your goal, this talent. 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.760 All of a sudden, this get quiet. James said, hey, man, 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:57.439 shut that up, man, and then that I'm going to 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.840 the league. Yeah, I said. This is the bad part 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:02.520 about it is, you know how you get a woman, 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.280 your mam will tell you like, hey, suck it up. 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:09.040 That's what he was trying to like, was trying to 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:13.480 like he was like, I'm like, oh man, most dudes like, 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:14.800 hey man, this is my career. 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.280 Like I don't know Jamesohson, No, I don't know Jamesson. 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:22.000 I don't know James. When they got in the pocket 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:23.000 with James. 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.639 And I was I remember that, I was like, I 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.760 don't give a fuck. Fuck you everybody you love niggas 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.280 James said, say less. 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.040 The whole prank. I was just looking at that. 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:36.000 Yo. 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.000 They they were like best friends and then all of 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.080 a sudden, like they had us like they had us pect. 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.280 James and Jeff they were like best friends. Like they 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.120 came in what was yourll three? What was yours? Yeah, 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.359 fellow friend, fellow friends. So they came in. 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.040 I didn't know about this rap group. Yeah, I know, right. 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:58.359 They did everything together, and so Jeff was like ascending, 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.920 James was descending. Like James was averaging like sixteen a game. 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:02.760 Jeff was averaged. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.719 It was hooping, and you know, my job was to 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.800 be like man, I gotta connect, like everybody together. And 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:14.000 so all of a sudden, like I think like they 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.040 both was going the same place, but they was like 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:17.760 I don't know what it was. So they in practice 0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.400 they like just went off. We were like that, what's 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:23.480 going on? All of a sudden he said, he said, say, 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.800 let's we was looking like he ain't never said nothing. 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.800 I was like, ah, ship, like that was new. Yeah. 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.400 I was like, yeah, I talked too, but I'm thinking 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.120 about Heim, Like, damn not this motherfucker. 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:35.640 I fight everybody, but not him. 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:39.080 Man, James, that nigga said, I'm a fuck you up 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.560 niggas sounds like the term ship. 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.440 I was no wonder that niggart was like, don't worry, 0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:47.720 but I ain't gonna let yall fight. Yeah, please be 0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:52.439 there because he was like the piece bag please. It's funny. 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:53.640 We had the free throw line. 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:57.800 You remember forgetting yo. 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.240 He had the free throw line, y'all. We're playing against 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:04.320 dang Jeff. I think this might have been your first 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.880 thirty point game. We was playing. Uh, this is why 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.200 I knew he was gonna be nice. We went to Anahei. 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.119 We had the free throw line. We're playing against who's 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:18.080 a little short cold pepper you youtub So we man, 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.919 we're going back and forth with them, and so we 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:20.880 had the free throw line. 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.320 It's James, the dude from utap me. 0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.720 Jeff on the other side of the cross from me, 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.359 and then there was another utap playing and I think 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.080 it might have been like chasing something down there off 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:34.560 for Root and so James going back and forth with 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:38.960 the dude. They talking crazy at each other, and James said, Hey, Jeff, 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.760 y'all better tell him it's basketball stuff. That ag what 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:43.200 I do. 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.640 This is what my ball. 0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:47.879 Was like, that's what he and we was like, yo, bro, 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.639 you might that is what he really do. Bro, it's 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:55.080 a part time Yeah. And you know who Colepepper is, right, yeah, 0:26:56.240 --> 0:27:01.920 that's so we like, I'm I'm telling him like, bro, 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.159 you gotta do Yeah. Yeah, I was like this, I'm like, bro, 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.359 this what I'm like? He really be on that? Man. 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.720 We had to tell him. Oh boys, like he was like, 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:11.400 was like. 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.159 Yeah, this is what he did. I was like, he 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.600 on hoop bro, he fighting man? He many I heard 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.439 it here from smith Man. Let's get Jeff back to 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.160 white Man. Let's get this. Oh you will come back. 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.440 I go, yeah, when they do your Hall of Fame, 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:23.800 I'm going back. Yeah. 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.880 When they doing it, I don't know what they're doing 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.560 for really, it's supposed to be like coming up the right, Well. 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.280 What now I'm playing like I don't think I'll be 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.560 able to do it, but but I do. And I'm 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.080 not even joking, like they need to, like it should 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.200 have been Jeff first, then James, and then they can 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:40.760 put me in for Rook in there or for up 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.159 before me, whatever the case is. 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:47.400 Because deserved though, Bro, all of us, James burn down. 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:49.560 I mean, we deserved. 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.200 You know what with us because James left right after 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.320 we left Los Bro. 0:27:54.600 --> 0:28:00.240 He was on a flight. Yeah, this sounds crazy for you. Yeah, 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.320 it's waita. 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:04.399 Is that a Catholic school. 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:10.040 No, it's a Baptist school. Baptist yeah, yeah, But my 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:10.800 thing is. 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.880 Like I had a couple of Baptist sneaks rolled around 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.840 that It's crazy. 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.160 These dudes really like Jeff and James. Really, I'm telling you, man, 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.600 they held it down for us. That's and I told him. 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.920 I was like, it was funny my junior year when 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.600 I came back from injuries and they was rolling, I 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.760 was like, man, how I find my way? I was like, man, 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:35.760 these dudes are about to be pulling me over. I 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.120 gotta I gotta like, I gotta come in and hoop 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.920 and uh. But they held it down, like they held 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.440 it down for Shure, that's why they should be in 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:43.960 the Hall of Fame. 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.600 That's and that's real, and that's far. 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.960 Like you said, everybody there end up being a league 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.920 down pushing each other to the leg. For you, we're 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.040 trying to make that transition from White's NBA. How was 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.840 it for you, like the workout process and then going 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:58.400 to get into the rockets. Yeah, so, man, my my 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.400 four years was up and down far as like injuries 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:02.160 and stuff like that. 0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.880 But like I and I'm not just trying to gasp 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.640 my dude because he's here, But like I knew jeff 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.880 It made it to the leaves of nineteen pick at 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.320 one time he was a lottery pick and one time 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.120 he was a lot o. So I'm thinking to myself, like, yo, 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.000 I'm playing against the best point guard in the in 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.840 the in the country at the time, Like yo, I 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.520 could like I can you know, I mean, I'll be straight. 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.760 So when I went through the process, I remember who 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:31.040 was it Memphis They was deciding between three guys. It 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.920 was Jordan Crawford, my boy, Jordan Jordan. I played against 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:40.240 jac Xavier. Jordan gave us like thirty something professional bucket man, 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.400 he a bucket and I'll be trying to tell sid 0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.520 and I'll be trying to tell the young dudes like, yo, 0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.160 it's bigger than that, because there's some dudes that came 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.720 through here. It's ten times as good as you and 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.480 ain't all about like, oh man, I get a bucket. 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:57.080 Nah man, Like it's not like Jordan Crawford, Marsha Brook. 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.520 This is what I'm telling people like yo, y'all don't understand. 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.880 Like Terrence Williams, I played with him, and what these 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:09.960 dudes was cold. And so anyway, I get a call 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:11.400 and they was like, man, they trying to make a 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:16.720 decision between grievous Jordan Crawford or yeah, grievous my guy. 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.200 So Jordan went twenty fifth and then they decided to 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.160 go grievous. And then I can get a phone call 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.080 from Oklahoma City and they was like, man, we got 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.280 a forty second pick. You know, we'll take you, but 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.320 we're gonna stash you over see. I said no, no, 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.080 and I got on the street. That had to be 0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.000 the lord because for me, like I ain't know what 0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:37.440 I was doing all the time. I said, bro, I'm 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.480 not no overseas, but I don't stash me oversea because 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:40.960 I know you can get over there and get lost. 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.800 So I said, nah, I go n drafted. I find 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.880 my way. And so then like the fiftieth pick came 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.240 and that's when Detroit and Houston was like, hey, Detroit 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:55.000 actually offered me a Joe Dumars actually offered me a 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.720 one year guaranteed deal. And I was like, nah, you 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.960 know what, I just go to Houston And. 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.400 What made you do that? This nigga was y you 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:04.560 talk about betting on yourself. 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.880 What made you do? You know me, man, I don't 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:07.560 know whatever you thinking? 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.480 For one year guaranteed and then Houston offered a two 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.840 year non guaranteed. Most years was young guaranteed. And I 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.480 was just like, man, you know what. They played the 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.479 pay They played fast. You know remember back in the day, 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.320 Dero was like, I can't go to no system playing, 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:30.480 So so I went Houston played fast. At the time, 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.840 Rick Adaman was our coach. Y'all gonna cry laughing. It 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.680 was y'all mean. On my team, Brandon not Brandon brad 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:43.720 Miller playmate, No, just miss Tate the man. 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:44.080 Listen. 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:49.360 Another Kyle Lowry was on the team. I had Shane Battier, 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:50.920 that was a nasty roster. 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.040 But that was when Kevin Martin. But that's when you came. 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.000 Jared Jefferies. 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.400 Oh that was a filter. That's why. God, man, Joe. 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:11.520 Crazy different now like yeah, we're gonna keep it like yeah, 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.200 but like all joic, that was when you came in, 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.640 like Jeff getting tested it like when you came in 0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:18.320 the league. 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.920 Like man, it was all head. Oh and you had 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:21.920 to work your way up. 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.040 Like think about it, Jeff when it came out of 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.000 college averaging twenty and he could just go somewherehere they 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.320 be like, hey, man, get you a bucket. 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.360 Man what oh he would have been able to get 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:32.720 like twenty five thirty. 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.200 Especially he knew how to get fouled like the league 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:37.520 now like back in the days, Man, you try to 0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:38.760 get foul, they'll be like, man. 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.680 Do like that, yeah, get up now, that's crazy when 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.120 you was a rookie. To you were a rookie and 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.560 gett no costs now, like the dudes come in, let 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:47.400 me get casts. 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:48.440 That's crazy. 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:49.160 He cold. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:54.000 Yeah, yeah, I didn't know how cold he was. He 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.280 got a game, so so yeah, that was my roster 0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.840 and like man, old head would like tell you different stuff. 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.640 Shane Benny taught me how to like manage my money. Uh. 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.200 Then I got traded from there with the Memphis. I 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.000 got traded in Memphis. That's when I had z Bow. 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.840 Yeah. They was like z Bo was like, that's like 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:13.280 my guy. 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.600 Like those guys like taught me how to like be tough, 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.320 like fight through stuff, like push through stuff. 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.440 That was getting made it to the playoffs and we lost. 0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:21.680 Shout to Mike Conley. 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.000 Yeah MC man, y'all, so. 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.280 Y'all to what I tell you before he came. They 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.160 the two nicest dudes I ever met in my life. 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.120 Bron They MC was my guy. 0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:32.360 Man. 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:33.680 He a good dude. 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.360 Every time I see his dad, his dad, I was like, man, 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:38.680 you know I saw you in college. 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.160 He was like, yeah, man, you guys all made it. 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.840 That's nicest people in the world. Bro. 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.040 The he was on that that Memphis was the fire. 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.479 Yeah. We was good, man, We was good. But we 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.040 remember that was when I knew, like it's bigger than 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.360 like you got to figure out what role you gotta play. 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.000 So like, I ain't playing the playoffs, but they wanted 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.080 me to be Tony Parker, so I. 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.880 Had to scout team. So I had to be Tony Parker. 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:05.920 It was like, Yo, it's just do that fast though, 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.560 and that's what like I was coming off like you 0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.799 remember tps to pass it. 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.360 And go all the way around. 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.880 Yeah, like, and so I had to be Tony Parker 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.319 and so z Bo they had made a decision at 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.799 the end. So when I got traded over there, I 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.600 kind of knew, like, yo, this ain't my color, so 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.600 like you know how I fit in whatever the case is. 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.680 And so we're getting ready for the playoffs and uh lot, 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.239 don't tell me Linel Hollins. He tells me like, yo, 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:33.880 it's you're gonna You're gonna come up to you know, 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.319 you ain't gonna play this serious. And I'm like, all right, 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.600 bet cool, Like I'm not tripping, I won't expected to play. 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:40.759 And so then that's what z Bo. That's why I knew, 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.840 Like z Bo just had this weird way of like 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:44.440 talking to you. So he pull you, Hey, little bro, 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:45.960 come in, little bro, come in. 0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:46.920 That's him. 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.120 So he put his all around in like, hey, look, bro, 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:50.759 you're gonna help us win this series. And I'm like, 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.040 I don't know how we just heard coaches. He said, 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.280 I won't gonna play. He said, nah, a little problem 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.000 telling you you gon'na help us win this series. And 0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.799 so that's what lott them tell me, Like, Yo, you're 0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:03.239 gonna play like TP the rest of the history. And 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:04.320 then once we won. 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:05.680 The series, that's crazy. 0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.839 That's when Zebo came to me. It was like, see 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.640 what I tell you a little bro, Like, if you 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.440 ain't played like that, we would have never got like 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.759 a visual with TP kind of play left. 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.480 That's hard and that's crazy. That's a testament like what 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:18.480 it takes a winning NBA. 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.120 Like everybody can be talking, everybody could be cold, but 0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.879 just having somebody your team who can mock somebody else 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.280 makes your game preparation totally different. 0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.120 They didn't have that for a mic at all. 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.120 Even more credit than you for taking on that road though, Bro, 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:32.919 a lot of niggas ain't equipped for that. 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:34.560 Egos checks. 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:36.919 So that's some love to you, for real. 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:39.600 There's a lot of dudes thoughn't met you. I mean, 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.239 we all got egos. Nobody said no, you. 0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.120 Want to play, Bro, but I'm saying you, I'm talking 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:45.160 about your sacrifice. 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.160 Yeah, that was the biggest thing. A lot It's been 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:49.600 a lot of z BO pulling me to the side 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.680 and telling me like, yeah, it probably took you along 0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:55.280 with yeah. Like like for me, I was like and like, 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.840 like I said, I go back to Wake like I 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.919 knew playing Wake with all these town the dudes like y'all, 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:03.480 I can't come in and be like, oh no, this 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:05.560 is how I'm gonna do it. Nah, I'm about to be like, 0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.040 all right, what's needed, you know for the game of night. 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.440 Like if it's like I said that joking around the 0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.920 Carolina game, score four point, he got thirty four, we won, 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:18.600 I'm cool, like yeah, like that's what matters because I 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.400 know it's gonna be a game where Jay might be 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.239 struggling and then I got to step up like it 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:24.719 is what it like, you know what I mean, That's 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.960 what that's what team is all about. Like so that's 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.200 when he told me that. I was like, yo, cold, 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.440 But it did mean a lot coming from ze Bo 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:34.319 because ze Bo z Bo, you know. 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.480 Or any good word I guess at heart because when 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.919 as fuck fact, man, if we know you said the record, 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.160 know what I'm saying, teams play the NBA. Now we 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.680 gotta ask you some tough questions. Top five cities you 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:50.360 played in no particular order, Like, yeah, Phoenix. 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.680 Now you said that Phoenix, Phoenixes City. 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.000 I was twenty four years old. 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:56.560 Phoenix was. 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:05.640 You know whatiggas a? I wasnteen. 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:11.040 I was a motherfucking back nineteen nigga. 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:18.160 That was when I was twenty five back yere, I 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:24.280 was Phoenix. Uh dang, you know why I rock with Detroit? 0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:25.960 Man, I knew he was about to say that. I 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.160 feel like that's where you knew it too. You was crazy. 0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:32.080 That was that was like the first time like I 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:33.120 got a chance. 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:33.399 To like hoop. 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:37.320 They took care of you to like one thing about Detroit, 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.040 like if you can hoop like my game may you 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.520 asked Jay? Like my game ain't like I'm doing a 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.640 lot of like zig zagg and like I'm getting them 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.520 like I'm not like in certain cities like that might 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.279 not be Like Jay's game was perfect for Atlanta, like 0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.680 they turning up he dunking on cats like that's but 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.680 like you know what I mean, like even steps game 0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:00.320 steps game perfect and San Francis Like you know what 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.920 I mean, Like that's the demographic and so for me, 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.080 like my game was perfect for like Detroit, they respected it, 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:10.360 you know what I mean? I was gonna give them, 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.120 you know what I mean. I was gonna play hard 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.640 every game and all that different type of stuff. So 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.439 but that was the first opportunity I got a chance 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:16.799 to hoop. 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.520 Like before then, like you, j J liked you on 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.960 this team. Now yeah, man, I'm just trying to find 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:28.719 my way. It's still still well. I was. I was undrafted, 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.359 so I knew like my way was gonna be. 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.239 Like a different path. It wasn't gonna be like dang man, 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:39.120 these people invested in me, nah, like, and then each team, 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.239 like I tried to take a different little perspective. So 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.520 like when I was in Orlando with Jamia Nelson, I 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.080 was like, yo, Jamir at the time one of the 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.239 best point guards cold, So I was like, man, if 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.120 I play against him, I gotta get some confidence. When 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.200 I was in Oklahoma City Russ, I'm like, yo, yeah, 0:38:56.440 --> 0:39:00.960 Like Russ almost came to wait. Yeah, yep, Rush almost 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.560 came to wait. So the story behind that is Russ 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.400 was getting recruited by he wanted to stay home. He 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.720 was just waiting for UCLA, and so they had Jordan 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.799 Farmore was trying to make a decision if they were 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.400 Jordan Farmer was gonna stay and leave, and so he 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.759 had two offers, big time offers that was like Wake 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:24.200 Forest and and well UCLA had not offered yet, and 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.840 some other like local schools. But he had took a 0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.320 gross spurt late and so he had came on a 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.239 visit and UH, coach Prossec call me and said, hey, man, 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.280 I had my court, my Green ninety three court. 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.320 I drove all the way down from UH. 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.319 I drove like forty five minutes when my mom stay 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.040 and UH with Winston is like forty five minutes. So 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.759 I drove up and Uh that's when Russ dunked on 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.560 Trent Strickler. Dangn something nasty. But then all of a 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:50.520 sudden he went back. Jordan Farmer left, he ended up, 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.719 but me and Russ been cool since then, like since 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.960 he was seventeenth. Yeah, so we would have had him, Jeff, 0:39:56.160 --> 0:40:03.239 that would have been crazy. I wouldn't come. Yeah, that's 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:03.600 too man. 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.239 I still don't know how he got how we got 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:09.400 him out of the state. Oh my fault. 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.080 Phoenix Detroit. Damn. 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.120 Well, let's start looking at him. Phoenix Detroit. 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.200 Charlotte was you know, I mean, Charlotte's to put them 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:19.560 one Charlotte's Home. 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:25.759 I mean it's not in those particular order. Charlotte's Home. Uh, Phillis. 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:27.640 I rock with Philly too. 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.600 I rock with Philly because they like again, I got 0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.080 a chance to just hope, like when you're just sitting 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:37.560 on the bench like like yo, I'm telling you like, 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.200 that's why I like No Jay, he lied like last 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.200 year was and I gotta say Denver because we want 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.200 to chick. But last year wanted easy, like you going 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:47.799 in a situation where you're like, man, you know I 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.240 just came up. Well no, no, no, it's d CEDD 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.879 and uh Denver, I got DC. 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:59.480 You got hell of wizards highlights, especially against the pacers 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:04.080 all yeah, So with them, I just uh, Indiana, it's 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.000 I mean, I don't know. 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.040 I don't know why I said. 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:08.719 We're on the top of every highlight of word. 0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:10.759 It's not just no, it's not that. When he was here, 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:11.360 they was cooking. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.200 I don't know why highlights to get Si Deana too. 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.319 He went to Blake days when he came here with 0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:17.160 the forty four. 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.719 The weekest go ahead, the week is yo. 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:24.960 Hey, he tried to go. So he tried to come 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.440 to Wake and get forty, but it was like, no, man, 0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:28.480 you gotta get a low number. 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:33.640 Somebody said, oh d yeah, we. 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.840 They was like we've got it, and we wouldn't give it. 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:40.840 You keep that motherfucker awaed weekend. 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.879 So yeah, but like Jay ain't lying, Like it's hard 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.799 man when you especially when you've been playing like I 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.800 have been playing like six or seven years, like a 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:50.640 consistently started. 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.640 Playing and so went up. Now I had to be like, 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.040 all right, what road do I take? 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.680 You been on the bench. But if it wasn't for 0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.880 like you know, the team camaraderie, like been around the 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.279 eyes and we just like enjoyed each other, it would 0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.120 have been a situation. I'm like, man, I would have 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.360 been on like yeah, you know. 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.600 What I'm saying. So you start you start seeing it 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.040 like yeah, I'm damning her. 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:11.640 Cool off. 0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:12.600 Some damning are. 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.680 Done like I was done when you get to that year, 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.560 like you year fourteen now, so you probably having a 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:19.080 good time. 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.719 Though no, I know, I enjoyed it because it's helping 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.040 the guys out. But I really had to talk to 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.640 my wife like I'm like I want to stay home. 0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.360 But it was a situation where like my wife's like, yo, 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.840 it's home, like you, Charlotte, It's not like they asked 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.759 you to go to Houston, like you know what I mean. 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.319 Like, and then you got a good relationship obviously with 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.239 the front office. So it's gonna be an easy way 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.960 to Yeah, if he wants to keep doing with the NBA. 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:44.200 That's the hell. 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.840 That's a hell of a job. Though, you got brother. 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.440 Your team. We love to Charlotte Hornets. 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:51.479 He got a sunset park. 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:01.880 He bullshit. 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:11.040 They yeah, they straight up. 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:14.520 No cap. 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:29.040 A tough assignment, but they uh, bro show you want 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:39.360 to stay home your hands one. 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:44.560 Man, tough off good dudes, man, they really are man. 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.600 But think about this though, like we all came in, 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.200 like me and Jacob Lee, like it was like a 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.480 pecking on. You started down here. You had to work 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:53.120 your way up. 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:54.920 I think about it. 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.680 If you keep drafting dudes as nineteen, it's hard, man, 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.320 thinking about it, it's hard. So you got the blind 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.880 leading the blind. You know, I don't know y'all giving 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.200 me this like mellow my dog. Like when we won 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.239 the championship, he was the first one texting, like and 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:10.960 then when he got his money, like I texted him 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.360 like that's my god. He wrote, those guys remember scary 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:19.120 man like, but they kind of get it. Yeah, you 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.400 can tell they get it. Yeah they Brandon Miller may 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.920 he got game, I believe. So they got talented guys. 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.040 But you like, how you gonna know where to go 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.799 if you ain't never been, like, nobody's there to tell 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.680 you where to go. So like we had I had 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.200 all his many they. 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.359 So we talked about this a couple of poles ago. Bro, 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.120 I'm telling you, like, that's a lost art in the league. 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:45.560 Now, o G. Somebody who's season to come help the 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.279 young guys at least show him the little stuff that 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:47.640 you need. 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.239 You're not helping them out, and then you get mad 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:51.799 with him, and then when you're done with him, you 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:53.440 just like wash your hands with him and you're done 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:53.719 with him. 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.080 Now they needed you. It's like how we was a 0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:57.680 way for us. We needed you. 0:44:58.120 --> 0:44:59.359 If I didn't go to when I went to wait 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.279 for us, if you wasn't like trying to like if 0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.359 you was like fuck you kept like trying to fuck 0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:05.799 with me, I wasn't trying Like if you didn't do that, 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.560 I've been a wild boy because I was already quiet 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:10.320 into myself. 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:11.799 But like I wouldn't. 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.080 I wouldn't a workout dude, and I would go to 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.200 the gym with Geary because Gary was a workout dude, 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.400 and you would be in there. But you my competition. 0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.400 So I'm like, oh, ship, like he in here shooting 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.279 thousands of shots, got the music blasting, So I'm like, 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.040 I gotta do that ship because I'm ever play I 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.480 gotta play with. And then once he started telling me 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:32.839 he was the first one, like I took it wrong, 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:35.000 so y'all know me, I'm I'm my asshole. 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.399 He was like, Yo, I'm gonna be CP. You gonna 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.680 be Jay Gray. I looked at that nigga like he look, nigga, 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:41.680 you got me fucked up. 0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:48.680 But you know what's funny though, all jose aside like 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.440 and then it flipped like I got hurt and Jeff 0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:56.279 became because I honestly don't look people with no disrespect 0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.919 talent wise. I don't think it's been a talent more 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.839 talented dude has ever walked into Wait. I'm just keep 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:08.000 it a being somebody who can jump, shoot, drive past 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.480 like he could do it all. Now, Chris, I love him, 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:12.520 you know what I mean? He wasn't this tall like 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:14.000 you know what I mean, he not dunking or you're 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:15.640 not doing none of that. He knew how to run 0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.760 a team. Chris. Y'all people forget Chris is fast. 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:20.080 He forget the. 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:23.480 Ultimate point guard like he was elite like Chris is. 0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.840 We know Chris is up it, but talent wise walked 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.600 into wake far as far as at the point guard 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.920 position is not nobody better. So for me it flipped 0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:34.960 like because I got hurt and Jeff was cooking, so 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.000 he on magazine he doing all that, so it flipped. 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.040 He became Chris. Why I started telling him use some i' 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.560 never tell him this. I said, look, no offense to 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.600 this guy, love him. I was like, I ain't about 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:52.560 be no to Ron Downy tcause you know the rule behind. 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.840 You know what happened with TV so torn Downey. It 0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:57.400 just came off a year where he was hooping, and 0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.040 I love TD like this is my guy. But he 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.120 came out a year he was hooping, and uh, he 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.920 got like Mono or something like that, and we got. 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.720 Mono the hose. That's what happened. 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:14.080 By that mono for something like that, it's putting on 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:21.960 your figure. That nigga about homes out there and filth. 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:31.319 Wait, go to that decap what's going little? Excuse me? 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:36.000 We see girls like walking without they have mud on 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:36.560 their toes. 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:44.120 Issue hit something, no shoes on? 0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:48.000 We get got him a barefoot. 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:49.680 Was cold. 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.359 I was. 0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:58.880 Here. I was walking over stay for show. I'm like, 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:00.399 you just can't run. Oh. 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.120 Me and Jim went to State. I said, you ain't 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.440 nobody if my cousin with the State. So she's a 0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.520 call and be like, yo, Jeff, that was over here, y'all, 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:09.239 amie ski. 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.200 The reason I went over there, I was like, man, 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.200 I don't know how to do this that way for it's. 0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:19.560 Like it's a black school right there was the way it's. 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:21.120 Like seven minutes. 0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:26.160 Cutting down the schools are though for real, it was 0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.480 if you was I went over there, I was like, 0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:34.960 I gotta go to the room. 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.279 It was hanging on the door. 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.960 Yeah, like on some like there on the block or 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:46.560 something up to what boy man? Yeahs y'all good. That's 0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.640 how it was for real. We went to the N 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.759 Club one night and we. 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:55.280 Was is sharing that so we said envibing. 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.879 We was and uh, they'd be like hey, because Jeff 0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:01.399 always like to stay low and uh, it was like, hey, 0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:03.480 shout out to Jeff T Like. 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:05.920 What you mean. 0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:11.520 It's like, trust, it's time to go. Let's get about 0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.280 of facts. Bro was funny. 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.800 Bro Deal would have enough back home like high school. 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:22.280 So sigasiggas slide. 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:23.600 It's time to get about. 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.200 It all right, man, we actually your top five cities. 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:26.799 Now we got to push on the hook. Top five 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:30.320 players you play with? He plays killers? 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:34.239 Yeah, uh no order of course? Yo? 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.759 Man? He up there man for sure? Yok. 0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.080 He just made the game just look so easy. 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.560 I played. It's crazy because I play with a lot 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:43.440 of guys. I didn't get a chance to play with 0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.480 Joel and B but he was on the team. Hm, 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:48.839 So I don't know if I can count that. KTI 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.040 obviously is up there. 0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:55.000 Uh Still who else who you think make the game 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.480 look easier? KD or yo? Yo? 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:00.840 And the reason why I say yo, it is because 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.440 like when you watching the game, like I ain't give 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.960 him his true respect that to I got there, like 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.200 you know how it is like when we was coming 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.400 out and he was coming up, like, man, I love 0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:11.680 you yo. 0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:15.480 Put him yeah yeah, make him go yeah, like y'all 0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:15.880 beat him. 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.680 Remember that year y'all beat him like, and they always 0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:22.759 talk about like how that was, Like they're like, yeah, 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.080 changing for him. So he was like, yo, when you 0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.520 watching the game, you like, bro, he got sixteen rebounds 0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:32.480 on the first hand, I don't know where this came from, 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.560 seventeen sixteen and eight in the first Like, I was 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.440 just sitting there watching, like, and he just he just 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.040 run down the court. And the thing about him is 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.520 he stayed at the same pace the whole game. So 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.200 it's like the totters in the hair. So it's like 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.560 we more like some guys are more athletic, but he 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.320 just keep going the same pace, same pace where he 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.719 can't stop it. You can't stop it. So he's him 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:58.319 kd uh dang, Jeff, it was man, Russ. Yeah, Russ 0:50:58.360 --> 0:50:59.200 up there too for sure. 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:00.640 Animal Bro. 0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:02.920 I don't know how many people be disrespecting him. I 0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:04.520 hate it, Bro, he is an animal. 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.759 I was there though when in this shout out to 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:08.600 my guy man Russ. 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.880 I love Russ. That's like my brother. So I was 0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.080 at the I was playing for Oklahoma City and I 0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:16.080 told Russ. I was like, Russ, Yo, Jeff got game, man, 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:19.959 because I know when he's locked in. Jeff was could 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.359 have been easily one of the best point guards. When 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:25.200 he would be like locked in, like it was scary. 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:28.759 So he was sitting there and I seen Jeff like, 0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:30.200 I was like, saw him on the other end. I 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:31.799 don't know if you remember this. We played against y'all 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:35.080 in Atlanta, and Jeff was like, he just did like this. 0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.080 Usually we talked, he did like this. 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:38.279 I said, Oh, he locked in. 0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:39.759 So I told Russ. I was like, Yo, Russ, he 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:43.080 locked in. And that's when you got to still like it. 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:45.640 So I remember that battle. He was going back and forth. 0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.080 But Russ is up there for sure because when he 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:52.640 was in his uh that that MVP little stretch and 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:54.719 triple double because I played with him in Washington, man, 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:55.880 he was and he was still. 0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:57.919 Killing in that Nigga is hell. 0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:00.360 Bro. I don't know why people be disrespect because he 0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:01.360 played for Theakers. 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:02.360 Bro, That's what happens. 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.640 And the thing about Russ is he don't like he 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:09.080 don't he just be keep driving it, driving it, driving 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.280 the basketball. Yeah, like he just and you be like, yo, Russ, 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.400 like calm down, yeah, like and he don't get tired 0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:19.880 like you be like yo, this dude, keep like eating 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:22.279 that halftime because I'll be good the first have. 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.920 But when I got the halftime, all right, I'm look 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:26.440 at my phone. Who going out tonight? 0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:28.480 You see? That was my problem? 0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.480 I half fifteen that half okay, Who's going out tonight? 0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.160 Russ come back out like he took an energy drink 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:34.680 or something like. 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:36.279 What the hell is wrong with this nigga? Man, Like 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:37.279 calm the fuck down. 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:38.960 You know you used to go in all the time 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:40.399 that I used to be like, yo, he got something 0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:41.800 person with a Reggie. 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.640 Oh, because you know, why go at Regie jection when 0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:46.479 we play that wake. 0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:49.640 I don't know if you remember he dumped okay, hedn't 0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:52.839 he like drops up and he dunk and he bumped Mek. 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.360 He might have been a freshman. He like bumped me, 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:56.719 and I was like what the fuck? Like you know 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:58.040 what I mean, because I was like, nigga, this is 0:52:58.080 --> 0:52:58.960 Tyre's Rice team. 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:04.279 Even you ain't even him, Like why the fun you 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:04.799 bumping me? 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:07.000 Like I was shiitty ever since I seen him, I'm 0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:08.839 I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna try. 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.120 You always known when he's trying to, Like that's how 0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:14.880 Jeff was, like, you always knew when he was trying to, 0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.320 like yeah. We played against Tony Douglas. 0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:22.040 He'd be like, oh yeah, yeah, I was trying. 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.279 To Will too. 0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:23.800 Yeah, Jarn Williams. 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.280 He used to go at his ass. 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.160 He was cold too. It was cold, bro, there's somebod 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:30.960 who may handles this. They're like, y'all left me Will. 0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:34.800 I was like, yeah, we definitely definite respective, but definitely 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:36.839 him and John Wallas the only people I know can 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:38.160 cross over going full speed. 0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:41.000 I used to be in practice, like, how the fuck 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:42.239 are you doing? 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:48.080 Like a nigga was niggasu be broo put you on 0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.880 that though, Bro, you know what we used to play, Uh, 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.880 it's funny. We used to play saying like you know 0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:58.560 they called the saying love football. So like uh, I 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.800 used to be like in the back. I was the receiver, 0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.760 so I would be like running, changing directions, changing directions, 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:08.120 catching the ball. Yeah, so I'd be like, yo, hold 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.479 on man, Like I was like seven eight years old, 0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:14.360 so my mindset was yo. Like like I saw Reggie 0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.440 buck Bush, he would change directions in football, like without 0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:18.680 like changing, So I. 0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:19.920 Was like, yo, this is crazy. 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:24.360 Shady Leshaan McCoy, Shady mcurt they would like change the direction. 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:26.960 So I'm like, yo, what if I can do this 0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:30.080 with a basketball? So I just tried it and like. 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:32.759 Type of people. 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.440 Just growing back, like I'm not about to catch this. 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:38.640 I could wait to get on the other team. 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:40.719 That's the thing that like, this is what bothered me 0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.960 is we played together like doing the game, but like 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:45.080 coach will always put. 0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.600 On opposite side and practice. 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.200 And like when he did that. 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.040 If he scored, he knew. 0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:56.399 If I scored, was gonna get the ball. Start playing 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.640 with the one used to get mad. This is not 0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:02.279 gonna just be on one on one game, Like y'all 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:03.080 got to share the ball. 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:06.799 I'm we're going at it, like do you remember the 0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:07.600 day with you know? 0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.840 Custs me up. He went through the whole team. He 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:12.560 told everybody what they do good and he got to 0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:14.560 me at the end. When was this We was like 0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:15.799 we was winning. 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.239 We was on the roll. He was like, Chris Paul 0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:18.840 was running this team. I think your foot might have 0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:20.520 been broke, you still would have been hurt. 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.439 He was like, well, Chris Paul was running this team, 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:24.319 we would be the best team ever. 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:25.080 I looked at you. 0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:27.520 I was so shitty, like I was like I could 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:29.840 have punched him. I was like, I fucking hate this. 0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:31.840 He's like, and you're on the second team. 0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:37.680 I wouldn't practice. Yeah, he was killing l D. I 0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:40.680 was to like, LD you got him. He was kill. 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:43.799 I was killing this. Nick. 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:45.759 I know you was heart because I remember you was 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.879 on the side. He was like, chill j He's gonna 0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.120 be all right you. He was good on worded about him, 0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:52.520 was like, fuck this. Yeah, he was killing I was trying. 0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:55.640 I'm telling you when he wanted to, like y'all seen 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.359 it in high school, bro, when he wanted to, like y'all, 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.319 I'm I'm gonna go get a bucket every time like. 0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:03.239 He did. 0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.319 You was like, yo, it was on some burger king 0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.600 type like having your weight from the three point line, 0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:12.799 finish it, dunk it like yo. I was like, I'm like, yo, 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.759 this like, I mean he can get five. So we 0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.440 was I remember that. I do remember that, But I 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:20.880 also remember when. 0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:26.080 Yo. I remember that day that Joe was crazy. 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:27.960 But I mean you remember when. 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:31.239 I know because it was always the piece bager. He's 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:33.960 a good We had some rebels on our team. You 0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:35.799 remember what I told everybody. I was like, yo, it's 0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:42.080 one girl. Nobody could talk to him. This I think 0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:43.040 he's gonna bring that up. 0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:52.360 I was like, girl, we ain't dropping. So it was 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.920 like yeah, yeah yeah, it's like okay, everybody we got that. 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:56.680 Yeah yeah. So what. 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.680 He decided to Like, what was he thinking? Oh no, 0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:04.600 he decided to try me. I guess I was sure 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:07.960 he believed me. I was like, I pulled up on him. 0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:10.560 I got active, called me. 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:13.760 Said j t Yo, what the heck? Man? What you doing? 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:17.000 Man said he tried me. I was like, he talked 0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:20.920 to I said he can't talk to damn because Jeff. 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:22.720 Battle to hit me. Coach Be hit me. It was like, 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:26.240 go get go get Jeff. Y'all wonder why we don't 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:28.120 we got all this talent and we can't win. 0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:30.440 No games because Coach Be used to always hit me up. 0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:34.440 And I said, I'm like, all right, let me let 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:36.280 me call him. So I called him. He was like, 0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:43.200 y'all they said he had him him jump on the wall. 0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:48.160 Yeah, Yo had up on the wall. 0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:51.160 But it's respect. The thing that blew me was like yep, pause, 0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.920 Like you can't say respect, Yo, he had him. 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:58.680 But they was like, yo, he already told me to yo, 0:57:58.760 --> 0:57:59.440 he already told you. 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.960 That was the like I used to be like, we're confidence. 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.360 First of the foremost, the only reason that person was 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:13.760 there because yeah, I was tender for that Reason's keep 0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:17.520 it a bean, Let's keep it the bed. He told me. 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:22.320 We had listen. The Lord utilizes so many people in 0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:25.400 so many different ways. 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:27.760 Freak, you gotta. 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:34.800 Let's this is the season. But keep it a bean, 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:36.160 like my dog told me. 0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:39.560 He was like, let he did, Like that's really I mean, 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:40.680 like get mad. 0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:44.440 You know you can't get and then leave. It's freaking. 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:47.000 And then this is the thing. She used to do 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.480 a little certain things to try to trigger Jay, And 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:51.480 I'm like, I don't need a trip, Like just do 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:53.080 certain things about here. 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:54.760 Call me be like let's let's go to the gym. 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:56.160 Yeah, I don't need a trip. 0:58:56.840 --> 0:59:01.919 Even after that incident, he was like, damn was yeah 0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:09.120 right there with me on the show. She walked with me. 0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:17.000 He like, yeah, yeah, hold on, I know you're doing that. 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:22.040 That's that door. Let me hot you open that door. 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:27.400 It was, oh, you know. 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:29.480 What I'm saying, don't kill. How you find out? 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:31.240 Talk to how I found out? 0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:32.520 How you find out killer? 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:36.040 Remember how exactly I found that out? To the blackberries. 0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:41.760 It might have been liked love and. 0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:43.720 Facebook beef is crazy, which is crazy to me because 0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:45.240 now you got people's grandmas and. 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:49.560 Stuff Facebook you but now it's. 0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:53.560 Like grandma's and city girls too, bro. 0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:56.120 Man. 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.800 And then remember that year, yo, this was funny. Our 0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:02.480 first day backed my junior year. We're playing pick up, 1:00:02.640 --> 1:00:04.760 going back and forth and this is when that person 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:08.680 was hooping. Yeah, the person was hooping, man. 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:14.720 Yo. He was like, so after. 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:16.160 We had their recruiting class, then for Rook and the 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.600 recruiting class come in. So now we got for roop 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:25.400 Tony Woods, ty Walker. Who else was in that class? Yeah, 1:00:25.600 --> 1:00:27.360 it might have been it might have been them three. 1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:31.680 So they come in and now we got like an 1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:35.600 NBA team for real because we got seven footas on 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:37.080 seven foots like them boys. 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:37.800 Is huge. 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:41.760 Short pause. So we're sitting there and we're playing and 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:43.360 stepping out hitting. 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.320 Three because was there. 1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:49.640 He said, I'll never forget because you was cooking CEP 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:51.840 and he was like, let's start doing this pick and 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:52.760 roll ship. 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:54.000 Because I was on C team. 1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:58.000 Yeah, and I was like, and ty started hooping, I'll 1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.360 never forget, and how he was like he one. 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:04.040 Baby Tyson Chandler. Yeah, that nigga t would sit. 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:11.240 That nigga just read up to him. Whoa what because 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:13.040 the nigga say he was baby Tyson Chandler. 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:14.800 The team was nuts. 1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:18.120 Yeah, and I love he was the only saying Now 1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:19.840 we all had our awn little crazy. 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:24.840 After after that, I didn't get to see that wal Bro. 1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:26.360 We never seen it. He was he supposed to go 1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:27.360 to the NBA. Yeah he was. 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:28.040 He was. 1:01:28.400 --> 1:01:31.439 He was as tall as hell. You deserved our career 1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:33.040 for the you had to deal with it now. 1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:35.200 But you know what they don't understand, Like I was 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:36.520 with him my guys. 1:01:36.840 --> 1:01:38.240 Yeah, but he was the same one. 1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:41.520 Like I mean, it was my dudes, like, man, we 1:01:41.560 --> 1:01:42.360 was crazy, I'm. 1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:47.560 Thirty for thirty up, come out of retirement. 1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:54.400 We needed thirty Philip like phil Yeah, he was like 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:58.120 just like that's why they just like like he was 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:00.880 such a like now y'all come on, nah and did 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:02.960 He'll make you like come together. 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:04.280 Just did stuff together. 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:07.880 Because I'm over there, like you know, I gotta fucked 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.120 up mind. I'm over there. When you hit him, like. 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:14.640 Ni, he ran downstairs. I'm like so remember we was 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:16.800 like yo, that's it. We go downstairs. 1:02:17.160 --> 1:02:18.120 We don't find him. 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:21.360 All of a sudden everybody phone blowing up, were like, yoh, like, 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:23.640 who calls us coach battle? Like I said, oh, yeah, 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:25.200 it's coach b It's. 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:26.400 What are you doing. 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:29.440 I'm like, man, what you mean? Like we was playing 1:02:29.680 --> 1:02:33.280 got a little whatever scuffle. He was like, Tya's mother 1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:37.000 just called me. It's saying y'all was laughing at him 1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:37.960 getting punched in the face. 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:41.840 I'm like, well, I mean it was me. What we 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:45.240 all was like, oh, like so we was was like, yo, 1:02:45.760 --> 1:02:48.440 Tony jacked up, bro, you do that? Like Tony, why 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.000 did you do that? Tony was like, Tony didn't give 1:02:51.080 --> 1:02:51.600 the explanation. 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:54.160 So we went downstairs. Whatever the case is. We couldn't 1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:57.280 find time after that. Man, I love time. Man shout out, 1:02:57.520 --> 1:03:00.680 that's my guy. But he just yeah, he could have been. Yeah, 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:03.080 he really should have been. And he not telling you. 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:05.800 The truth was it was another time we was hooping, 1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:10.400 playing five on five and CP again. We love you, bro, 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:12.440 But me and Jeff when he used to come, we 1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:15.320 ain't wanted to play on his team. We was like, man, Jeff, 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:17.240 we're on the same team. And so Chris used to 1:03:17.240 --> 1:03:20.960 come back all the time and bring uh, bring Jay 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:23.400 Greg shout out to Jay Gray. He coaching Western Carolina. 1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:26.640 Now that's my guy, Eric Williams bringing back Eric Williams, 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:28.680 Like he used to bring back all these guys and 1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:29.960 we used to be like, yo, y'all would not have 1:03:30.000 --> 1:03:31.960 to beat us, Like you don't know how much talent 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:34.200 we got, Like nah, that's not y'all would have. Whatever 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:40.280 the case is. So this is one's particular day. Jeff like, 1:03:40.760 --> 1:03:43.960 hey man, stop calling them picking rolls. Try to get 1:03:44.000 --> 1:03:46.600 by me, just one on one. And he like and 1:03:46.680 --> 1:03:49.920 Jeff when he wanted to like defend all, he like 1:03:50.520 --> 1:03:51.440 getting over screens. 1:03:51.480 --> 1:03:53.480 He's like, hey man, I'm telling you I do this. 1:03:53.560 --> 1:03:55.280 And then he came back. You know, Jeff was the 1:03:55.400 --> 1:03:57.120 king of one on one. This is what I do. 1:03:57.640 --> 1:04:00.680 Bang like I'm talking about what's hooping and then that's 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:01.960 when some other stuff. 1:04:04.000 --> 1:04:09.040 I'll tell you what my boy, No, I hit a 1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:11.600 reverse layup. Ye was like that. 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:15.680 Ship nasty, that's fucking nasty. He was like, shot up, nigga, 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:21.960 you ain't do it, like what start going at it? 1:04:22.560 --> 1:04:27.040 Yeah, was still hooping or still we were still hooping, 1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:29.520 but like kind of going back. He started chasing that 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:33.240 nigga around the jail like running after not running, but 1:04:33.280 --> 1:04:36.480 he just was talking and then he was like y'all yeah, 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:41.000 he was just like was like it took a minute 1:04:41.040 --> 1:04:43.720 for James because he really was off for a minute. 1:04:44.080 --> 1:04:46.400 Like we couldn't get him to come around. I'm like, 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:48.640 see peop about to go hoop. He was like, no, there, 1:04:48.680 --> 1:04:49.040 it's up. 1:04:50.160 --> 1:04:51.400 He would have caught that nigga. 1:04:51.720 --> 1:04:54.400 I think like the first couple of years to lead, like, yeah, 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:58.200 he would mess with he was because Chris made here 1:04:58.240 --> 1:04:59.960 a good dude. But like he'll try to hit you 1:05:00.200 --> 1:05:02.360 like some little trigger to like get you mad. 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:04.440 Yeah, he like and he go like low. 1:05:04.680 --> 1:05:06.800 He tried to go low, like like if he know 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:10.200 you like lost your dead, like I lost your dog 1:05:10.280 --> 1:05:12.080 when you was like four years old something like that. 1:05:12.160 --> 1:05:13.480 He'll say something about that. 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:15.120 You'd be like, y'all want to kick your dog like 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:16.920 something like that. 1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:19.840 Or like I remember he was playing against I was 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:22.040 wide open in the corner one time I was we 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:25.000 was playing he was in Phoenix and so he was 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:27.560 guarding me in the corner and Brad Joel and he 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:30.560 stood there like to like force him kick it, and 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:32.360 then he tried to play my games with Brad was 1:05:32.400 --> 1:05:34.520 like see you. You gotta play the right way. 1:05:35.000 --> 1:05:36.120 You want to be playing the right way. 1:05:36.160 --> 1:05:37.160 He ride open in the corner. 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:39.320 You got throwing the ball like. 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:39.400 Like this stuff like that. 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:41.160 You see, like why would you go that low? But 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:43.360 I know, see so I don't be tripping. I'd be like, 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:46.040 all right, see like it is, I wouldn't do with that. 1:05:46.160 --> 1:05:49.520 I like, yeah, Jeff, Jeff be like, no, I don't 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:52.880 play that game. I be like, because you can go 1:05:52.920 --> 1:05:54.440 as lowd as you onto, I don't care. 1:05:54.360 --> 1:05:56.600 Like I know I am yeah, I'm that. I'm that. 1:05:56.760 --> 1:05:56.960 I'm not. 1:05:57.120 --> 1:05:59.440 And what's the problem because this is when I knew 1:05:59.480 --> 1:06:01.680 you was gonna go to the NBA, like because. 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:04.240 Like I knew our team was the NBA. But I 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:07.960 remember we had it was Pargo, Jared Jack, Rudy g 1:06:08.240 --> 1:06:10.320 k D. And I think they might have had like 1:06:10.360 --> 1:06:14.880 Brian McKnight or somebody. Yeah. 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:16.920 So we're playing on five on five and this is 1:06:16.960 --> 1:06:20.800 when we like we like, yeah, get ready. So Rudy 1:06:20.800 --> 1:06:24.040 gave him they chilling and is going at Jared Jack 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:28.400 and c P. I'm like ship, I said, I said. 1:06:28.200 --> 1:06:32.200 Oh yeah, Pargo, start guard me because see start your 1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:37.000 name was like cook. You't even like that after the game, 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:40.600 Park was like, now this motherfucker is gonna be an NBA. 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:41.080 Yeah. 1:06:42.760 --> 1:06:46.360 Yeah, we're hoping like this is gonna be in the NBA. 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:46.640 Man. 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:50.160 That's when I knew. Like I was like, yo, we 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:52.160 we're gonna be called Yeah. I was like And then 1:06:52.440 --> 1:06:53.720 two days later I broke my foot. 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:56.720 I remember I was at the movies. They called me, 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:58.800 was like come home. I'm like where then, I'm at 1:06:58.840 --> 1:07:01.640 the movie. You need to come and get serious about basketball. 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:05.280 I'm like, what it's like, it's broken his foot. I 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:07.520 ain't gonna lot my heart drop because I we had 1:07:07.600 --> 1:07:08.360 just started. 1:07:08.440 --> 1:07:11.200 We started working out. Yeah, and I'm like, oh because 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:15.640 the middle of his well, Jeff like the first ten games. 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:17.840 But we knew it was gonna change. So then after that, 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:21.520 Jeff went on this tear the whole we play started 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:22.360 to gethering freshman. 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:24.400 Yeah, so we started rolling. 1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:26.920 And then after that we started the year and they 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:30.520 had us top twenty five. Yeah, like starting point guard 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:33.880 is two guard jet like, so we had already played. 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:37.160 We was like, oh man, we're just about to be hooping. 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:38.960 And you guys think he put me in a mind 1:07:38.960 --> 1:07:41.640 to just like go get buckets. So when Nates called 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:43.360 me like, you about to be the point guard? Mind 1:07:43.400 --> 1:07:46.160 you just got three make dollars. All Americans like we 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:50.520 got j J. I'm a bucket getter. I'm like, hell no, 1:07:50.840 --> 1:07:52.960 Like you'all think I'm about to be passing this, but 1:07:53.000 --> 1:07:58.240 I told yeah, in trouble somewhere there, I wasn't, but 1:07:58.320 --> 1:07:59.280 I told what I told you. 1:07:59.320 --> 1:08:01.280 I was like, man, don't be don't be me, be 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:02.520 you man. 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:04.840 When I say we were playing at b YU, this 1:08:04.920 --> 1:08:08.120 is one I was like, Yo, Jeff is the real deal. 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:13.800 So we go, we kill in Anaho and then we 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:16.320 beat the crap out of Indiana? Are you he took 1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:17.920 that person? He beat beat the crap out of. 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:22.400 So now we're like eleven challenge yeah, ac channel yeap. 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:24.280 Then we won some more games and then we went 1:08:24.280 --> 1:08:26.880 out to b YU and that's what I was like, Yo, 1:08:26.920 --> 1:08:28.800 this is the real test. And it was Legiti white 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:33.320 out white people, but like legit white out. So we 1:08:33.400 --> 1:08:37.440 sit there, bro, it was twenty three thousand. 1:08:37.760 --> 1:08:42.400 Yo, all yelling, screaming, saying some wild stuff. Wow, warming up. 1:08:42.439 --> 1:08:49.519 I'm shout racism yeah because I use it run bro. 1:08:51.400 --> 1:08:54.599 So we were in there and I'm like, we saw 1:08:54.680 --> 1:08:56.320 Danny Ainge at the game like it was a lot 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:58.880 of scouts. Then of course all of a sudden like 1:08:58.920 --> 1:09:00.679 oh yeah, Danny Age went to be yeah, I forgot 1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:02.840 about Yeah. So we're sitting there, but there was some 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:05.559 other scouts there and we're like, okay, Man, jem put 1:09:05.600 --> 1:09:07.400 on the show. Would you had thirty four that night? 1:09:07.640 --> 1:09:11.920 Something like that, man put on a show? 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:18.479 Was I was going crazy? I was going now Jim 1:09:18.560 --> 1:09:19.240 had twenty three? 1:09:19.360 --> 1:09:21.320 Yeah, yeah he was good. I just remember he made 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:24.320 James touch Earth. Yeah he hit a crossover nigga James 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:25.360 oh ship hit that three. 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:29.720 I said, because pack Because coach Kelsey came in and 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:32.599 were sitting around and he's like, yo, this guy plays 1:09:32.600 --> 1:09:33.200 like Darren Wims. 1:09:33.240 --> 1:09:35.639 We looked at each other. Let me get the fuck out. 1:09:37.000 --> 1:09:39.120 What it was like, Man, stop Darren Wims. 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:40.439 Y'all didn't know nothing about him. 1:09:40.560 --> 1:09:42.120 No, not like that. 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:44.519 We played in the year before and he ain't do nothing. 1:09:44.640 --> 1:09:48.760 He ain't doing nothing sophomore years. The sophomore he was 1:09:48.800 --> 1:09:50.880 another one. He had like he had the Jeryman run 1:09:50.920 --> 1:09:52.720 in college, Like he's another person. If he would have 1:09:52.720 --> 1:09:54.600 probably came out like three or four years later, he 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:55.679 did probably had a different career. 1:09:56.400 --> 1:09:59.000 He's top five white boys ever do it on the college. 1:09:58.840 --> 1:10:00.920 I feel bad for because he just he's just in 1:10:00.960 --> 1:10:06.280 a different era. Think about shooting threes now, yeah five 1:10:06.360 --> 1:10:10.879 years ago, be like like one of the top shooters 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:14.800 and figure it out for him out Like the same 1:10:14.840 --> 1:10:17.160 thing I said about Jo been like if you don 1:10:17.240 --> 1:10:18.559 went to the team, like how they do guys now? 1:10:18.640 --> 1:10:21.439 But man, just go get a bucket. Man, what but this. 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:23.520 Nigga just told you what he was doing at halftime. 1:10:24.800 --> 1:10:27.320 That's because I had already figured out my role. Yeah, 1:10:27.560 --> 1:10:29.920 that's what young boy. Like. They was like I was 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:31.640 came in out of score score score ye. 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:33.919 And then when I got to the NBA, they like, yeah, 1:10:34.320 --> 1:10:36.240 you ain't gonna be doing that, Like you're about to 1:10:36.280 --> 1:10:38.240 go to the corner and you're gonna pass this motherfucker 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:40.479 to Joe and you're gonna wait, see if you want 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:42.200 to pass it to you, and then you're gonna come 1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:44.160 out and you know that messed up with your head, 1:10:44.280 --> 1:10:47.000 Like yeah, I can score good as HM Like no, 1:10:47.000 --> 1:10:47.759 the hell you can't. 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:50.760 I'm like, no, I could score it, Like, na, that's 1:10:50.800 --> 1:10:52.160 a good thing you said before we got here. 1:10:52.240 --> 1:10:54.320 Last question, what do you think the hardest adjustment they 1:10:54.360 --> 1:10:57.160 try to make your game, like change for s C 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:58.280 A or for a B A. 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:03.040 You said change emotion. Not for me, It was the 1:11:03.120 --> 1:11:05.120 NBA for you. I wash. 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:09.240 It was privately college for me because when I was 1:11:09.240 --> 1:11:12.000 in when I went to the NBA, like I was 1:11:12.040 --> 1:11:13.519 you know, I was on teams for a little bit 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:16.640 and then I would go, uh, once I got to 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:18.679 the league, like I kind of figured out the game 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:21.040 like it was pick and roll game, whatever the case is. 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:23.640 And then like dude asked for the ball, like I 1:11:23.760 --> 1:11:25.120 throw him the ball, you know what I mean, Like 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:27.360 it wasn't no problem. I just needed to find the 1:11:27.439 --> 1:11:30.439 right team. It kind of like fit you know how 1:11:30.479 --> 1:11:32.479 I was gonna play, Like I wasn't really tripping. But 1:11:32.840 --> 1:11:36.360 college was crazy because like they it wasn't even a 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:38.320 bad thing. It was just like I was just like 1:11:39.040 --> 1:11:40.160 why did eye bushy tail? 1:11:40.200 --> 1:11:41.280 Like what did you say? Coach? 1:11:41.360 --> 1:11:43.800 Okay? Cool? And that's why I said I respected Jeff, 1:11:43.840 --> 1:11:45.840 Like Jeff was like, no, this is this is how 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:47.160 I'm gonna do it. That's what I'm gonna get done. 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:50.439 And guess what, when you do it right and you 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:51.880 do it like he can guess what they do. They 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:57.320 be like that we win it. I don't care what 1:11:57.360 --> 1:12:00.160 you say like that, that's that's the facts, and I'm 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:03.400 not saying like it for sure helped me, but like 1:12:03.479 --> 1:12:04.800 it was just a situation. 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:06.160 For me when I was in college, like they would 1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:07.200 be like I. 1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:08.519 Was in high school. I was like, man, I shot 1:12:08.600 --> 1:12:10.320 the ball like this, and it was like, nah, it's 1:12:10.439 --> 1:12:12.960 just we're gonna do like whatever the case is. So 1:12:13.800 --> 1:12:15.600 but when I got to the NBA, it was it 1:12:15.600 --> 1:12:17.240 was cool. It was a cool, litt adjustment because I 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:19.800 had seen everything. I had been hurt twice, Like, I 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:21.080 didn't play with talented dudes. 1:12:21.160 --> 1:12:23.000 So for me, it was like all right, man, like 1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:26.280 no injury. I'm an see like on an art experience. 1:12:26.600 --> 1:12:28.360 I don't play with great players, so I know how 1:12:28.400 --> 1:12:30.360 to like play off of them or play you know 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:31.120 what I mean, play with. 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:32.439 Him like it was what it was. 1:12:32.479 --> 1:12:34.680 So I like the adjustment in the NBA wasn't bad. 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:37.000 But I know for Jay it was. I remember it 1:12:37.080 --> 1:12:39.720 was funny. We came in and saw me and G 1:12:39.960 --> 1:12:43.519 drove down from Winston come see G play. I mean, 1:12:43.520 --> 1:12:46.040 he's come to see JT player, And J was like, yo, 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:52.080 is gh Like I was like yeah, because they was 1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:53.880 forcing him to play like you know what I mean, 1:12:53.960 --> 1:12:55.920 like when we first came in the league, like you had. 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:58.599 To play like a true point guard, like. 1:12:57.880 --> 1:13:00.040 Like everything was like and I was so proud of 1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:02.120 him when he got his Uh I think it one 1:13:02.200 --> 1:13:04.360 year it was your second year and you know what 1:13:04.400 --> 1:13:06.519 I mean, Mike Bibby got hurt up and then that 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:08.479 was his coming out party and then that's when they said, 1:13:08.479 --> 1:13:10.960 oh the next year he started like that was a 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.760 jet that was him and d Rose going back and 1:13:13.760 --> 1:13:16.640 forth and uh that that was the time where I 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:18.400 was like, yeah, that's that's the jetf I know, like 1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:20.840 he still had to like get everybody in, but it 1:13:20.840 --> 1:13:24.160 has just been like all right, go then you know 1:13:24.200 --> 1:13:26.360 you probably would have saw a different dude. But he 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:27.280 he did it the right way. 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:27.479 Man. 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:30.120 Look, I ain't joking around. I'm so proud of him. 1:13:30.280 --> 1:13:31.880 No, I'm proud of you because you did it the 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:33.760 right way. Unbelievable, bro, Like. 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:41.320 You got a story bro fourteen years. 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:44.720 That's why I say, like, wait, they gotta they got 1:13:44.720 --> 1:13:47.479 so like you don't get an opportunity like Kentucky, like 1:13:47.479 --> 1:13:50.360 they get that stuff, Like I remember we played against him. 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:52.840 And I always tell John this, like if I would 1:13:52.840 --> 1:13:55.040 have had my goons and we have played against that 1:13:55.120 --> 1:14:00.240 Kentucky Kentucky because when we played good teams, Bro, all right, 1:14:01.840 --> 1:14:06.439 well for Kentucky, but. 1:14:07.240 --> 1:14:17.360 Hold on this Swiss his posture got hold on. They 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:21.559 was gonna kick yourys. It was gonna kick your ass 1:14:21.600 --> 1:14:23.679 by yard, Bro. But they don't kick your ass. 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:26.200 When we played good teams, Bro, we always won. 1:14:26.520 --> 1:14:27.840 We always want to play good team. 1:14:27.840 --> 1:14:29.360 We had that brother, it's one of my favorite college 1:14:29.360 --> 1:14:29.880 players ever. 1:14:29.920 --> 1:14:30.040 Bro. 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:32.800 But that UK team Bro, I'm telling you, Bro, they 1:14:32.880 --> 1:14:34.400 beat the sleeves off you. 1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:35.920 We beat Carolina? 1:14:35.960 --> 1:14:36.799 Did we beat Carolina? 1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:39.919 They was the national champs Carolina. 1:14:40.960 --> 1:14:44.519 He han' dup and then James that shout out to you. 1:14:44.560 --> 1:14:47.280 No no, no, I'm just telling well keeping the team together, 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:48.320 No no, no, no. 1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:53.799 Wall blood, yes, okay, who was gonna guard the markets? 1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:58.439 We had five you know I feel about palls. 1:14:58.439 --> 1:14:59.759 We had five seven footers. 1:15:00.120 --> 1:15:02.480 Name was no good and then my guys like they 1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:05.400 got puss in his face. He would he wouldn't work 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:06.120 a quarter. 1:15:06.479 --> 1:15:07.840 Chase, That's my god. 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:09.200 The first chase. 1:15:09.280 --> 1:15:11.320 The chase was good at college chase. 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:16.120 The reborn Shane Brown. Fuck him, y'all was toast. 1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:20.479 I would have been a good game, all right, John 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:25.720 John Wall, I'm picking my dog. Yes, y'all lost the 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:28.479 fucking Cleveland good to get. 1:15:29.960 --> 1:15:32.120 I wasn't trying to We've been having a good interview. 1:15:34.240 --> 1:15:35.760 Hold on a little. 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:40.880 I lost my whole sam sclub. Check what you talking? 1:15:40.960 --> 1:15:41.240 Leader? 1:15:41.320 --> 1:15:43.120 Talk to me man, I was talking about. 1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:47.800 The leader. He said, boys, Bro, when we get off 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:51.280 this show, other stories lead that. 1:15:51.280 --> 1:15:52.760 Had been a good game. I ain't gonna say y'all 1:15:52.760 --> 1:15:55.120 have dust them. I'm hating because just talking ship. But 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:56.960 now for that had been a good game. I wasn't 1:15:56.960 --> 1:15:57.680 gonna smoke him. 1:15:57.880 --> 1:15:59.960 No, no, we're not saying smoking. We would have went 1:16:00.360 --> 1:16:03.200 so we played good against there we go. We struggled 1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:05.560 when we used to play against like the Miamis. 1:16:05.600 --> 1:16:09.720 You want to like trying to Patrick Patterson, what's my 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:18.880 nigga from Ja Lexington? Okay, okay, there's Miller six all the. 1:16:18.800 --> 1:16:22.880 People Carolina had, Bro they went off the Pine Bro. 1:16:23.000 --> 1:16:25.160 They had a whip shout out to Yeah, they had 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:25.719 a whib. 1:16:25.880 --> 1:16:27.479 We beenished that year. 1:16:28.320 --> 1:16:31.600 Look they had seven Think about that team though, No, 1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:32.799 I'm not saying Kentucky. 1:16:32.880 --> 1:16:35.880 Not listen, I'm just saying we wanted. 1:16:36.240 --> 1:16:40.920 Look, we lost themout real, they beat us back, but 1:16:41.520 --> 1:16:45.240 we got j T and James what look a little different? 1:16:46.720 --> 1:16:51.320 Look j five, John Wall. 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:54.000 And the Marca's cousins. Was unfucking real. 1:16:54.120 --> 1:16:56.240 Bro Ye, you wouldn't watching a lot. 1:16:57.360 --> 1:17:02.200 I'm tapped. I knew you before you knew who you was. 1:17:05.360 --> 1:17:09.679 We played good against the good things. But we beat Baylor. 1:17:09.760 --> 1:17:11.439 We be all the teams that was good. But when 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:15.320 we play that John, we used to just be like 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:17.679 sucky Duke. 1:17:19.160 --> 1:17:22.120 Remember let me tell you know the Duke game on YouTube. 1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:25.240 Let me tell you what this jugger did. It was 1:17:25.280 --> 1:17:27.000 the fun I tell people this story all the time. 1:17:27.439 --> 1:17:30.040 So we go to Duke. They beating up forty one 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:32.840 to nineteen like they like, they beat it. 1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:36.400 Jeff coming in a huddle and Youno drawn over play 1:17:36.920 --> 1:17:40.000 and I looked at Jim, I said, and man, he 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:42.800 was like, don't eat trip. I got you. Man. 1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:46.120 He came down to momb like two threes after that, 1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:49.760 let's go. I was like, man, we all know that's wrong. 1:17:50.280 --> 1:17:52.120 Came. We should have won that game. 1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:53.240 We came. 1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:56.320 That was no swimming for cale singling man. 1:17:56.360 --> 1:17:57.640 Cole Singer couldn't do nothing with. 1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:03.040 James come with on. It was he couldn't do off 1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:10.559 Like I love James Johnson, I love James. We gotta 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:12.880 get out of here. But he was doing Greg. I'll 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:15.360 never forget, Bro, you had Greg Paul's legs. Bro. 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:16.160 We was cooking. 1:18:16.200 --> 1:18:21.280 Remember, I was like, damn he did it? Like, let 1:18:21.320 --> 1:18:21.640 me tell you. 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:24.240 We would like we ain't run no place in the 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:28.160 white point guards something real. We'd be like, hey, Jeff 1:18:28.600 --> 1:18:32.439 got out at you were playing kill him, come down, 1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:34.840 get to that pad and floater like he was just 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:36.439 they back up shooting man. 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:40.759 We was like, hey, next, hey man, you got him kidding. 1:18:40.880 --> 1:18:44.479 We used to like go and then Elliott Williams traveled 1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:46.280 all the way from No. 1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:50.680 That was cheating coach Kate ripping off his jacket. I got. 1:18:50.760 --> 1:18:53.519 I definitely got Elliot Williams was nasty. G P three 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:54.200 was hard too. 1:18:54.120 --> 1:18:56.040 Though we beat Carolina that year. 1:18:57.880 --> 1:19:00.120 Greg Paul, I'm just saying you got. 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:02.960 No. 1:19:03.160 --> 1:19:06.120 I'm not gonna say. Greg Hous was on y'all level. Bro. 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:08.800 He was a great. He was a great college player. 1:19:08.800 --> 1:19:10.680 He went to he he wants to end up. He 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:13.920 ended up going to he was New York. He wanted 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:16.320 to play quarterback. But I'm saying they had a good team. 1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:16.800 Y'all. 1:19:17.040 --> 1:19:22.559 Quit y'all gonna quit disrespecting these niggas. Y'all, was you 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:24.519 was better than great posts. You got him dancing like 1:19:24.560 --> 1:19:27.519 a jab Walker. Yeah, that's cool. But I'm saying, like. 1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:32.160 Jill Henderson was called Joe Henderson was three bigs. 1:19:32.200 --> 1:19:37.440 Kobe he did, he was bro Number fifteen was nasty. 1:19:37.479 --> 1:19:40.080 He was one of the best due players. He was. 1:19:40.160 --> 1:19:41.720 I kept trying to tell these niggas, Bro. 1:19:41.920 --> 1:19:44.600 They used to compare him to Kobe, not saying he 1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:47.000 was like Kobe, but the similarities though. 1:19:47.080 --> 1:19:47.400 He was. 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:49.320 He was Kobe in college for real. 1:19:49.360 --> 1:19:53.000 Bro, say that before my nigga went, before my nigga 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:53.559 had to go ball. 1:19:54.280 --> 1:20:01.160 Joel with with the hety Fame nasty. 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:03.760 Against Carolina and Tyler Hansboro over there playing and like 1:20:04.040 --> 1:20:09.400 James like, yeah, yeah, look at this, what's wrong with 1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:09.880 this dude? 1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:10.120 Man? 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:13.680 We know he talked to none. He did run, but man, 1:20:13.720 --> 1:20:19.479 it was a good old time. But we would have 1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:21.639 got that Kentucky. Yeah, facts, Bro, it was good man. 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:23.599 I look, I played against them, but they we're gonna 1:20:23.600 --> 1:20:25.240 throw Polo. See how people feel about that. 1:20:25.439 --> 1:20:28.599 They definitely they're gonna say Kentucky, especially in this region. Man. 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:29.920 Shout out to bless So Niggy. 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:33.960 Yeah, I appreciate. 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:38.439 Y'all, So proud of y'all. Man, I'm so proud of 1:20:38.479 --> 1:20:39.240 y'all man for real. 1:20:39.360 --> 1:20:42.880 Like shouts to the Patrech Game. Shouts at the Volume 1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:43.719 Club five twenty 1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:45.639 Volume