#356 - Tyler Hubbard on The Truth Behind Florida Georgia Line’s Break + Addresses The Rumored ‘Political Divide’ +  The Pressure He Feels Now Releasing Music Under His Own Name

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Speaker 1: We'll go to episode three fifty six. Tyler Hubbard the lead singer of Florida Georgia Line now just the lead singer period. No more Florida Georgia Line. Well after this fall, they're gonna finish up their shows. He's like, I don't, We're done. I want to do it anymore and we'll readdress and I think he says five to ten years. So it's a good talk. We talked for over an hour. He's very honest about stuff, which I completely respect. And we got to it and at some point I go, hey, what's what's the deal. Why did you guys break up? I hear it was political. He addresses all of it. Got to give him credit. He came in. We talked about all of his backstory, which I always think is great when people are very open and generous about that, and then we talked about Florida Georgia Line. So we also talked about his new music, which is very important to him. This is his new song called five ft nine Got Me Five. Also, I felt like it was interesting when he came to Nashville, he didn't really know what he was here to do. He wrote motorcycles, He talks about it. So Tyler Hubbard, the lead singer of Florida Georgia Line, I encourage you to check out his new music as well. You know that's what brought him in. But again, very open and honest about the whole situation with f GL. So enjoy this. Thank you for listening to the Bobby Cast. If you don't mind, please go and do the thing where you give us all the stars and write a nice review because that actually helps and we appreciate that. And we're just a little mom and pop podcast. Just getting off the ground really got we We are all right. Thank you guys. Here's Tyler Hubbard. Hey something I was gonna ask us talking to Al Dean briefly, and he was he had a real nice watch on. Wait wait gum trash can Yeah, I might not be a chumping in your microphone. You would be surprised, that's very mature of you. You would be surprised at how many people will come in and chew gum the whole time. Well and then at the end go, oh, should I not have been chewing gum and the whole time? It's in and it might go on if I hadn't put my hands on I might not. I might not have thought about it. But then there I was just chewing away. I was talking to and Aldin had a nice watch on. Then I think I asked him off the air and I was like, we were just talking about watches. I guess it's something that people do that never had money and then you get money all of a sudden a little bit, and you're I guess I need a nice watch now. Because we were talking about watches and we didn't know a lot about it, and he goes, Garth gave me this one, and I said, Garth, Garth gave you a Rolex said, yeah, I said, we talked about this. Yeah, sure, So I want to make sure it's cool talking about that in the air. We hopped on and I said, hey, Jason just said Garth gave him this role X. I said, so, what's the story and he said, well, I hopped on the Garth like maybe like a tribute album or a duet album or something. Oh yeah, and he said Garth showed up, He goes, but heck, he showed up to the f g O guys house with free jeeps. Yeah, well the jeep and a motor. He gave me a motorcycle and gave b K geep. So what happened? So how Jason made it sounds like he's like the Easter Bunny and he just shows up and he's got stuff just like the Easter Bunny and he was coming or anything. Nope, Bi Canon, We're on music row in our building in the middle of a right and uh, our manager at the time walked in and said, Hey, Garth Brooks just randomly showed up and wants to see you guys. He's actually out in the street and uh, he's got like a trailer behind his truck. So we went out there and saw him and hey, Garth, how are you? Holy cow good good to see you. I don't even know if we I think we've made him briefly before, but that was like the first time really hanging it all. And he was like, well, you know, thank you for being on this project with me. I think at the time it wasn't supposed to come out, or he was bummed because it wasn't, so he felt bad or something. He was also thankful. He was like, thank you for you know, doing this with me. I actually got you a g b K and Tyler hear you like motorcycles, So I got you a little something. It's awesome Indian motorcycle. And then he just closes up the trailer. He was by himself, drove his truck, uh, parked it right in the middle of music row, unloaded the toys, and then closed his trailer up and drove off and hit a hit a sign on the way off. Was the best part of the whole thing. But anyways, is that the me too? And I I'm lucky enough now to have some really cool experiences with someone that is somehow human and somehow still is the biggest I mean selling our American artists of all time. I mean it's to the juxtaposition of those two things is like almost shouldn't exist, how sweet and kind he is, but also he's like the biggest, most successful. It's to say that you can actually be cool and genuine and authentic and kind and still be successful, right, I mean, because sometimes I think people think they have to put on the front or they you know, or or be an image or a certain person or whatever to maybe to maybe be successful. But it's nice. I love I get so inspired by watching Garth. I watched The Stadium Show, and I'm just like dude. He he makes everybody in this place feel special and he doesn't stop for the whole show. Also inspired by that Mike Bros. He's in better safe than I am, and he's he's he's crushing it. So I'm I'm ready to, uh yeah, be more like Garth. That's my m O. It's interesting talking about attitudes of folk because sitting where I sit, both in this chair and then you know, trying to do my own things, if it's in the TV world or write books or whatever, you know, getting to be on both sides of it. It's why. Mostly new artists and it's it's the cycle and I see it over and over again, so it's you kind of know what to expect from folks. Mostly new artists are very humble and just happy to be there and exhausted right because it sounds they're running hard. But when there's that threshold that's crossed into you've got a number one, you're working on your number two, it's almost like they go, Okay, I have to kind of act like something like I gotta have to act like tired, tired, They gotta they feel like they gotta put on some sort of semi front because that's the expectation they think is on them. And so that's when I've seen even some of my friends, heck, even probably me early on, go all right, I gotta be way cooler than I really am. I gotta be And that's when it kind of goes into they don't like them much right now because they're trying to be something and I haven't put that on myself a little bit, especially my first few years here. But then once again there's another threshold of success where they're just cool again because they realize that one this is fleeting. Yeah, I mean so much too. It's not real like the success that you have in the you know, the people that you touch, but like, what what is this? I mean, you can't touch it. It's fundamentally it probably didn't change you that much. At the end of the day, you're like, oh, it's just you know, yeah, they go distress, but it's not really changing who I am. I almost wonder if one of those stages that you talk about almost pushes you or forces you into like a cool stuff discovery stage of life where you're like, you know what, like who am I other than just the person that's in grind mode? All the time figuring out How'm gonna pay my bills and hanging out with my buddies, you know what I mean. And then it's like, Okay, how do I manage the life with it? Just it forced me into like sort of like how do I manage life with uh, less stress but more stress in different areas, you know? And then it was like, well, how do I manage life being a homeowner? Well? How do I manage life being a husband? And then it was just like you know, it kind of it kind of at least for me personally, and forced me into kind of like growing up as well as more self discovery. You know. Yeah, I think due to how I grew up in my personal life, there are parts of me that had to grow up really early, like right. But I think now I'm just into some of that area where I'm just married and I'm still trying to figure it out totally, and not just the married thing, but also the I've just been so selfish in I've only been focused on me, not selfish and keeping everything. I think for me, it's a bit of the opposite of that, but it's like I've only been focused on me and it's really hard and I'm trying to figure out who I am as like a human because I've never had to figure it out because I've only just had me to care about, and i just cared about working and breaking that cycle. And so as you say that, it resonates with me. I'm going, Man, my wife's like trying to get me there too, and she's like, I don't just value you for your job. As a matter of fact, I don't care anything about it. Like we cannot do it. We can, We're good, Um, so we I struggle with that, but I have her as kind of a shepherd to lead me through and and it gets a bit. It's uncomfortable for me at times because I'm working fifteen sixty hours a day and she's like, you gotta chill Outney Man, with you? What about? Yeah? You and Haley like, because you guys, a success hit hard quickly. No, I can totally relate to you because those years, those those first you know, five six seven years from probably two thousand twelve to two thousand and six things. I guess that's not that many years, but yeah, it was a grind mode, only thinking about work, getting to the next show, paying the next bill. You know, figuring it out and uh eventually getting to that point of a little bit of comfortable, a little bit of success, and then and then uh yeah, navigating this season now has been I mean it continues to change and evolve in different responsibilities and priorities. But for me, it's really uh just checking myself on, like keeping a balance, man, you know what I mean. And and that's always shifting too. So that's why I say it's been a journey. It's like, well, once Haley came into my life and then and then, like you said, you realized, oh man, my all my value isn't in just what I do or just the songs I write or the shows I play, um, and really that's not what I want my whole life to be about. You start thinking about building, you know. Or for me it was about kind of building the legacy and starting a family, and you know, what's the next chapter? What's the next chapter? And so uh so yeah, and I'm still growing and learning, and I mean we're still young. We've been married, we just celebrated seven years and uh we have three kids, and essentially I'm starting a brand new career. So it's very it's very much still that in the career and the things that I'm doing for work is very much enjoyable for me. I love doing what I do, So, like you said, I can catch me. If I'm not careful, I'll definitely over work, you know. Um, but it's pretty quick that that I'm aware, Like, all right, you need you need to chill out this week or you know, find a better balance. I definitely want to talk to you about having it in a sense start over, not not all the way because you do have some equity starting over with benefits. Yeah, yeah, you definitely have some equity, but you are doing a lot of things in a start over way, So we want to get to that in a second. Uh, just you know, talking about humans and having to grow and weird. This is one of the scariest things to me, and it's a bit counterintuitive. One of the scariest things to me was money because I didn't know anything about it, never had it. Was scared of it, was scared I started to make it, scared of screw gonna screw it up. I mean when I look at my first three or four years here, I mean that to me, scared money and people that were just wanting to hang out with me because they thought they could use it as a as a way to get ahead. But the money thing was why to me? I never saw it, didn't know anybody who ever had it, so I didn't know what to talk to. And so I'm I'm having to figure out who can I even ask for advice on where to get advice? Yeah. So again, when you guys were lined out of a cannon, more so than almost anybody that I've seen in my ten years here, Um, that seemed from the OUTSI I didn't like. It came quick like that success and all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you're you're rich, and it's just like what's happened? Yeah, I mean I can totally relate to that. I tell the story occasionally. I might have told you this story, but I'll never forget one of the pivotal moments that I'll never forget. I'll tell my kids. But I remember being over in berry Hill recording our first album and we were literally working on Cruise um, which you know, who did know at the time that that someone was gonna do what it did? Um? And I was coming back from lunch and I was sitting in the parking lot literally checking my bank account and I had twelve dollars left him in my bank account, which was you know, and at the time, you know, I didn't I didn't have of a resource to go to other than what where is the next car I'm gonna watch, you know, And so for me, I knew the next day I can't go to the studio because I gotta go work because I'm I'm down to pretty much one bill left and so and that was in two thousand and eleven. I mean, that was right before it all took off, and that's kind of the that's all I sort of new for you know, college was like that obviously, and it's kind of like that for a lot of people. And then that that was three years out of college. So I'm you know, I'm sitting there with a degree and and just grinding and trying to figure it out and really just trying to not get a real job so that I can, uh or continue to be self employed, I should say, so that I can pursue songwriting, you know, because that was the ultimate goal. But yeah, I mean to think from that year, I mean a year after that, I mean, the stress level went way down and the money was coming in and it was like, oh man, the patients and the and the uh in the grind was starting to pay off. And but yeah, then there was that point of like, Okay, how do I manage money? You talk about college when you went into college your freshman year, what what did you think was gonna have? Un do you upon graduation? Oh? What did you want? What? I think? Actually, honestly, my freshman year of college, I had no idea. I just knew that I wanted to be far away from home to where it wasn't like a weekend trip or you know, it wasn't like it wasn't thirty minutes away, which was U g A, which was where a lot of my friends went, or even an hour away. So and I'd come to Nashville once or twice and as a little bit younger and knew that I liked Nashville, and I just thought, well, great place to go to school. Um, why did you come here? Was it just well? I knew, uh, Belmont had a music business program, you know, like as a kid, like was it a family vacation? No it wasn't, or was it? Actually it was in high school? It was for a passion conference, which is like a big Christian conference that Chris Thomin and a bunch of the guys play at, and uh, I came up here for that. That was That was a pretty big moment. I was like, I love this town. I mean, we were staying downtown and yeah, I wonder when you kind of fell in love with it. So that was part of it. And then there was a trip where we came up here with my parents too, and I believe that was in middle school and I just remember being like on music row and I just have like cool memories of of just being like, Wow, there's a lot of history in Nashville. This is a cool cool At the time, it wasn't a big city. It didn't feel like a big city. It was like it was a big city for me, but a large town, you know, and it was I really liked it. So you got a college here, you're a freshman, and freshman is always interesting because, yeah, you know, in many ways you're lost, even if you kind of know, you're still lost because the roads very long ahead of you. Well, okay, what do you think you're gonna major in? If you didn't, well, honestly, the only thing that got me even interested in going to college was well, first of all, I felt like I was gonna miss out because originally I wasn't gonna go to college. I thought I was gonna be like my dad and I was just gonna work for myself. And I owned a card telling business that I just thought, you know, I'll just work for myself and I'll just grow this business and you know. And then I started seeing friends going to college visits and doing the thing. And I went to a few visits and I was like, oh, this is like, this is not like high school. This feels like freedom and fun. And I don't really like school, but I think college would probably be prett fun. So what am I interested in enough to get me through four more years of school? Music? You know. I started playing in church and I thought the songwriting was interesting. I did not know at the time that that was actually actually a career, um, but I thought music. Music holds my attention, and I'm I'm intrigued by it right now and I enjoy it. So maybe if I study music and can still get a business degree, I could potentially work for myself or do whatever that may lead. So the only place that had it was like Butler in Belmont or something like that. So I thought, Nashville is perfect. If I get into Belmont, that's my sign I'm going to Nashville. So I ended up getting in UM by the grace of God something somehow, and we're you a good student, because you're shaking your head like maybe you was decent, but I never It was honestly a surprise when I got in. I didn't have the kind of grades, you know, and I wouldn't like a superior athlete, you know, or anything like that. So I really just took it as a sign like, all right, that's we're supposed to go. Came up here and realized, oh, pretty quickly, I don't know. My freshman year well, actually, I first realized that everyone at Belmont was super good, super talented. They were all into music or nursing, and I was just like, oh my gosh, Like I was fairly intimidated. And I also have this thing about me where whenever everyone else is doing something, I tend to I tend to really steer away and want to do something else. So I kind of did. I kind of put my guitar away for the first few years and just sort of hung out with uh athletes and rode my motorcycle around campus and just sort of had you know, kind of jumped around different crews and hung out with a bunch of people. And one of the things my dad told me when I went to college was really good advice I think looking back now, was Hey, I don't care if you make straight a's. I want you to pass your classes, but the most important thing I want you to do is get to know everybody in that school. And uh so that's kind of what I did. Man. And then once I realized songwriting was a career and that that's something, I was like, Okay, that's what I want to pursue. That's what I want to do. He said something where and I and I probably do it for a different reason. I'm not sure, but you said, you see everybody doing one thing makes you want to do another, and so I have a similar thing. But I I, after a lot of therapy, I think it's because I'm so insecure or that I'm not going to be as good as everybody else that's doing it. So I go, I'm just gonna be cool and do this other thing. In reality, I'm going, man, I'm not as good as them, right, so I don't want to get involved and feel even lesser than So that's me. I think that was me. I mean, there wasn't too many people riding around on cross rockets at Belmont and uh, especially being silly on them, you know, and I thought, well, I'll be I'll be the cool guy that pops Willie's on campus. Nobody else is doing that. Come to find out, it wasn't as cool as I thought it was. But uh, but yeah, that I think you're right. I mean, I think that was a big part of it, where it's like, man, there's maybe I'll hode out in my dorm room, which I didn't do. I didn't do until later on. But uh, and try to get better. But there's a lot of great people in this school, and I'm I'm not trying to embarrass myself. Who did you meet that's still here? And maybe nobody, But was there anybody at school at the time that you're like, Okay, you're good and we kind of feel the same way about things, let's be friends, and uh, they're still hanging around in the business somehow. You know. The first person I met when I went to Belmont, uh as a guy named Jason Knicks. Do you know who that? Man? He's an awesome guy, huge songwriter, actually just had a big number one last year. And uh, and so he's still like in the mix. You know, we're still we still hang when we see each other. It's just like, um throwback, man, I love Jason Knicks. And then one of my best friends, Kanan Smith, is also a friend from We probably met a sophomore year, but he was one of my best friends in college and still to this day, you know, really close. Um, but there's a there's a it's been fun, man. I mean a lot of the people I went to school with her kind of venturing out and doing different things. Um, some of my friends are playing with c c wanas who was you know, you know, yeah, just a bunch of different circles in Nashville. It's it's really cool to see you start focusing more on songwriting, focusing a good word, yeah, like trying to learn also actively getting better at the same time, right and occasionally yeah, which, so what were you doing more than all through college? Were you playing a little bit or were you writing? I really wasn't playing much, man, I was just sort of just goofing off and and and having fun, uh and you know, working out, playing basketball, intermural basketball, and just kind of doing the normal thing. Occasionally I would start writing in my dorm room by myself and just because it was kind of therapeutic for me. Um. And I lost my dad my sophomore year, so there was probably a lot of uh shifts going on and needing to express emotions and feelings, and so I started probably doing some songwriting on my own. But it really wasn't until junior or senior year, you know, when I when I really started writing and thinking, all right, I really want to pursue getting a publishing deal because I knew I had four years to figure it out. I knew I wanted to graduate college. UM. Not that I thought my career was gonna take off so drastically that I was gonna have to drop out, but I did know like Thomas Read and these guys that did that, and I was like, you know, I'm just gonna I at least want to graduate. UM, So I buy myself some time and just have a good time in the meantime. It sort of not put too much pressure on myself. UM. But my senior year, for sure, I knew all right. I don't want washed cars too many years. If I can help it, and if I could pay the bills and write songs, that's the ultimate for me. So when did you start to feel like you were good enough, not to be great, but good enough to be good enough to pay the bills. Well, we started, I would say senior year. Um, I ran into b K. And at that time I was starting to play like writers rounds and stuff. I was starting to get enough courage to like get out, and I had written a handful of songs that I was proud enough to play at writers rounds. So I started kind of doing that and starting to Uh, I wouldn't say getting a bus, trying to you know, trying to get a buzz going, but starting to have some people that would believe in me. And um that I met b K and we started doing our thing together and writing songs and playing writers rounds together. Scott Belmont, Yeah, he played baseball, and uh, so we kind of connected dots and realized that we both liked writing songs. On the side, we both let's get together and hang and see where it goes. And so we started playing like Hotel and to go together quite a bit um as a unit or just Tyler. And at first it was just me and b K. And then like we would get another eight or two, we just do like around. And then eventually as we wrote more songs together, we had enough to be like, hey, let's just me and you do the round. I'll sing some of yours, you sing some of mine. Will sing the ones we did together, and then and then uh, and then eventually we ended up like, why don't we pull the stools away and stand up and turn into like a you know, but it never was? It what never was? We're now we're gonna go and pursue this from ground zero. Um, because it sounds like you're writing, I would say. After college we graduated, we had a handful of songs we had written. We knew we loved writing songs. We knew we and started to really enjoy playing them and these writers rounds, and we thought, why don't we, um, why don't we spend the next couple of years and just I have a trailer, you have a you have a tahoe, and let's just travel the southeast and see if we can book some shows. And so that's what we did. We started calling clubs and acting like we were booking agents and we had this band that we come and they did you have a different name? Did you name it different things? No? We we we landed on Florida Georgia line pretty quick. Um. But that was when it was one night after an hotel end Togo riders around where we were hanging out and drinking with some friends at the house and somebody said, hey, you guys should start a You guys should make a name and and start a thing, you know, and that's what well, what would it be? Well, let's, you know, let's have something that represents who we are and where we're from. And that was about That was about as simple as it was, and it stuck. So does it feel like as you look back and you know you can sit and remembering it, you really can't sit when it's coming at you so fast? You know, like you mentioned earlier, because even when you're grinding and you're not making anyone, you're going extra hard. Um, does it feel like it hits you fast? Definitely in times it did. Once two thou twelve hit it definitely, did you know cruise was out? It started taking off and then uh, but taking off like I mean it I can outside in I'm talking just from my perspective, and I was back. I was in the pop world at the time, and I the Nelly version. We were playing it on our station and I was like, God, dang, this is I mean, out of nowhere. It was just as sive al right, you're living it. So probably didn't feel out of nowhere to you. But did it feel like a rocket ship? Did feel fast? You know? We didn't have anything to compare it to. Yeah, I guess that's my question. It's like, but you know, there was times where it didn't feel fast either, because we were in we were determined not to get on the tour bus until we could afford one, and so we were in a you know, there was a time we were on the Country throw Down tour in the on the in the summer at two thousand twelve. We were the only band in a van driving ourselves around the country following this tour, and we were the barbecue band and we were roughing it and it was a long summer. So yeah, I would say at times it felt like forever and we had, you know, we we couldn't get there fast enough. But looking back now, I was like holy cow, that was super fast. Were you guys, and forgive me for not being completely educated on this part of it. Were you guys signed? Whenever you wrote and recorded cruise or did you was that song? Did it hit? And like go and get played on streaming? Wasn't a thing get played on satellite? And then everybody, it's a bidding war. Then what happened? It took off on its own before we got signed, and then it was and then it was a bidding war. That's pretty cool. It was fun. And we were also, I mean nothing against being in town and doing the coming here and trying to get a deal first thing. But we we literally had a like a motto that was like, hey, we don't need a record deal. We're gonna do this on our own. And when when we do need a record deal, the record labels will be here and they'll be asking us to sign. So when we when they start coming to us and we'll know. And then they started and then yeah, it all took off and they all started coming and and we were just looking at each other the whole time. We still have this kind of attitude like man, like, we're doing it on our own. If you'll want to join us and do it our way, then let's go. But we're I mean, at that point we were rocking, you know what I mean, and they were and they could see dollar signs so they came running and we were just kind of like, ah, but you know, it's part of the part of the process. But it was nice to build the fan base and build our thing and have that confidence with going in to signing a record deal and be able to say this is who we argue, aren't really going to change it because we have left. I was scared of that too, that's very much. You know. You hear all the horror stories and we were we were so scared of that. So we were just like, nah, we're not we don't want to play the game. Well, I mean, the truth is I'm British and I had to change the coming to country so now I got it from Arkansas. But they made me they signed me before and They're like, you're not going to be a hill building and I was like, okay, you guys didn't have to go through that, so that's good it. Let us be us. Have you um played any shows by as you by yourself? Yet? I played one show weird? Uh? No, it was a little I was definitely nervous, but once I got out there, it felt it wasn't too weird. It felt really good. It was a Spotify house show and during the c m A Fest. It was a small show. Um at oh Red did part of I guess what's part of you? I mean, it just feels natural. You've done it so many times, like you didn't have anybody right there, I mean that safety net or not always a net that that's not there. You know, I would say it felt different for sure. Um it was a small stage, so it probably didn't feel as odd as it may feel on a big stage. But I still had my band and uh the crowd was basically right on top of me too, so it was you know, it just felt like a big party and it felt natural. And how long was it that fun? It was like, Uh, it was only a thirty minute set too, so it was easy quickly. It was also a little nerve wracking because all these songs are brand new. You know, I never probably when I'm just like all right, uh, here we go. But it was it was a good It was a good uh good first show. The analogy that I feel is, you know, I do my my morning show, and I got these are all my friends had you know, never done radio. We've all we come up all together. I brought him with me, um similar you know to you guys, you did this together from college. And then I go on stage and I'll do an hour of stand up at a theater and you're just you're just alone. And when it when it's going right, it's it's freaking easy because you're just killing. It's going right, you don't need any But whenever things there's no there's nobody there and I'm in for a while. When I first started really pursuing doing comedy or doing you know, motivational talks, things would crack or it would be an audio problem, or I would bomb a joke. I was used to go in and being like, well how about that and getting something, but it wasn't there. So I wonder, you know, since you've been doing it so long, because that will happen at some point, right, And of course it's a it's a really interesting, scary but awesome feeling. Once it happens a couple of times and you're like oh yeah, no, no, like yeah, I'm good. You're like you're like yeah, I'm good, So that would be that'll be fun because you're going out on the Keith tour, which I saw, and that's a that's a lot of people have. It's a much bigger stage, a whole lot of people. And I guess you still have your band, right do you have all the guys? It's the guys. Um Tom our bass player moved on and ended up taking a gig with Luke Bryan, so he's he's rocking. But yeah, all the same guys. I na him, and uh, it just feels right when after this fall will be will be in a group, but this fall will be the you know, it'll be fun because it's it's like it's all brand new and all exciting and yeah, like you said, there's that added fear or nervousness or excitement or whatever the feeling is there all the above that you're like, Okay, yeah, it's gonna be different. I don't have a bi k there. You know, we're not playing off each other and um, but but the crowds they're still and be honest, if they're there, it's like, man, that's it's easier to play off them than anybody else. So I'll probably be leaning on them quite a bit, you know. And the Keith Keith. I know, I think Ingrid's on the tour to so where are you playing? Is it Ingrid? You Keith? And then how long as the main support? How long do you get a set? There? Sixty minutes you get an hour? Wow, that's jumping right in the deep end. So when you geez, that's awesome because you have to you have to get it quick. We'll be yeah, exactly. That's why I say, after this fallt tour, like I'll be ready. So when you play your sixty minutes set and they're like, here's Tyler Hubbard. Obviously, I was talking to Ronnie down this morning about it, because you know, he's like, he's like, I gotta I'm gonna go and play some shows from my solo now. And he's like, but I'll always play some of the Brooks and Dunes always. He's like, it doesn't matter, like people know me from that. I gotta stay true to that, even though I'm gonna do this new projects. I think it comes out next Friday. And you know, he said kicks the same thing, like there's a there's a respect and appreciation we go out. So what is your goal there, because regardless of let's have twenty number one in a row, you're still part of Florida Georgia line how you were introduced to folks. So is your dream to not play those songs solo? No, No, It'll all be kind of depending on the amount of time that I have. But I definitely want to have a moment in this show that will probably be uh rooted in my songwriting, you know, and I'll get to play some we can call him covers now, but songs that I've written, whether it's an out Dane song or um, you know, any of the songs I've written, or f g L songs, you know, So like cruising meant to be in a little bit for example, Like we can just take those three and say, all right, I'm just gonna And I'd also just like to pay Yeah, I want, I want in my show. I wanted to tell my story and that's a big part of my story, so, you know, and being a part of writing those songs, and so I think it'll be fun to, you know, within the context of telling my story, going to play a few FGL songs. But ultimately, I don't know if the key set is gonna allow it, because we were having rehearsal last week and we were kind of working through it and we're like, man, you know, we've we've worked up like thirteen of the new songs and it's just like really hard to not want to play those new ones. And so I'm not exactly sure what we're gonna do yet, whether whether or not we're gonna play you know, some covers in the sixty minutes said or wait and do that, you know next year. But I mean there's medley, that's the word. I know, a little medley, a little verse course for four minute, fifteen second medley of four or five songs. And so people are like, oh, yeah, you did. I remember I just went to r M once um, and I was super because I didn't get to see the r M was you know, when I was young, young. R a M was massive and you know, early nineties, and so then they kind of went off and they came back and I was like, heck, yeah, I want to go watch r M and had great season and they never played one of their older and I was like, I was like, what just happened here? I didn't get one one hit. They just played a medley for like four minutes of what's frequency again it everybody would have been okay, But it's good feedback to have as I'm trying to figure it out, you know, I just I just left going. I spent all these years listening to so much of their music. I just needed a nibble. I just wanted to feel a little bit of that. Yeah, So I'm gonna play some of these songs here because you're putting them out pretty good. Every time I look at I knew someone coming out. It's like Tyler always got a new song. I think at three out. Now let's play five ft nine and then this is the single, right, all right, here we go God Me five and Small True Dead make Whiskey makes good stuff. So as this is a single, who are you with? Label wise Universal? Okay, that's not the same label, new label. So what's that? The whole swim everything, that's a big deal. The management SWI I mean, the label swich is significant, but even the management, which because that's who's with that's every day. Yeah, and that was a big um. That was a big need for me. I mean to be honest, you know, the last couple of years of the f gl thing. You know, it was pretty um undermanaged, and I knew, I think my biggest fear and my biggest hesitation in doing any of this solo stuff. Um, before I met my new management team was was just that like that I'd be feeling the loan, you know that I'd be trying to do it micromanager every little aspect of it, and you know how many aspects there are and how many moving parts, and it's it's impossible for one person to do. So I met them and I felt so much more equipped and supported and actually like that was when I actually decided like, all right, I'm gonna do this. I can do this, so if to the folks listening, I didn't know what a manager was either until I had to have one. And so even today I did. Uh. I did a radio show and then we did my kid's books out and so we did a whole online signing and then I'm here. So but my manager overseas all that everything that I possibly do. It doesn't matter in what world it's in, what space it's in, Like they are part of everywhere, your labels, your music, But my managers dealing with the tour, the little so that is such an intimate that's a that's a person you have to really trust or people you have to really trust. But it's a very intimate part of your career and even your personal life honestly because it is someone who's very close to you. So you I mean, that's a lot of change, man. How do you pick a new label? Well, the uh, my manager helped me navigate that, you know. Oh and we um, we only we knew that it was between a couple, you know, and then we we just uh took a couple of meetings and I honestly just felt really at home, you know. Um. I met with Mike Dungan over there and uh played the music and their level of excitement, you know, I just uh, you know, and then after meeting their whole team, I was like, yeah, this feels this feels like the right team and the right um, the right move for me. Um. So yeah, it was. It was pretty simple. It was actually a lot more a lot less complicated than it had been in the past. I'd be so neurotic. I was so neurotic about everything, Like I Yeah, I just like I I hold up with people, even professionally to my detriment sometimes and like, that's it, that's it. You haven't stolen from me, you haven't stabbed me. We're good forever and that that again I And at times that's not good for me. So I commend you for just going all right, this feels good, it feels natural, let's go, because I I don't have that growth yet. And they were, you know, there was there were people that I mean everybody in my previous career, if you want to call it that, my last ten years f Gail chapter. They were great. But but a lot of people I think UM had a difficult time, uh fully wrapping their head around the fact that we were moving on and doing different things and had a hard time with the transition and or or accepting the transition in general. So I think it was necessary and beneficial just to have UM kind of a clean table to be able to rebuild a little bit. New eyes, new years, new perspective, because you have new eyes, new year as a new perspective, so you need teams got to match it. Yeah, thirty five little more. When you're writing, I'm assuming you wrote all these songs. Did your first project did? Yeah? So you've written as a writer for and sometimes probably specifically for people. Right, You've written as a writer just trying to write a great song, you don't know where it's gonna land. You've also written for you, but you wrote for you as part of a unit, so when it comes to you're not creating in a different way. But my question is did you write these songs for just you or they just really good songs you thought are for me? So like half the album, um, we ended up recording eighteen songs total so far. So I'd say about half of those were songs that I had written previously, either for somebody or like you said, just to write a write a song and see where it lands. And uh, several of them are songs that I pitched other artists or that, um, you know, they got passed on, and it just stuck around in my phone and and and even started to resonate even more with me and become more true to who I was. And I was just like, once I accepted and kind of decided that I was going to put an album together, there was a handful of them and I was like, yeah, this these belong on my project, you know. So uh so there was that and then once I made that mental shift into knowing that this is what I was doing. My writing change where it was like I go to a room and they would say who were writing for and I would say me as opposed to you know whoever, and uh and then it was cool because then I got to really dive into uh a little bit more that, like I mentioned, like self exploration and really what do I want to say? How do I want to tell my story? And you know, how do I want to? Now I can connect with fans on a deeper level and they can get to know me more, like you said, more of who I am personally and individually as opposed to a band or a brand. Did you feel more vulnerable when writing for just you? Yeah, I think so, but I try not to also overthinking and ultimately we were still just trying to write great songs, but I was trying to integrate my own personal, uh you know, stories or inspiration into them, and so uh, yeah, there were times where I definitely felt more vulnerable. Um, but it was I think that's necessary there when you're writing a lot of these kind of songs, I think I can just outside in perspective. I think if you're writing because I've written books that are specifically about me. I know that's about me, and everybody's gonna know that's about me. If I'm writing with other people and it's really about me, I can always just act like it's not. I mean, as long as no one's just gonna we're like, hey, it's a very personal song for us, and who knows which parts about who. I think there's a little bit of shelter there. And even if you are vulnerable, people not knowing where to attach the vulnerability, so it's a lot easier and you don't feel as like your rib cage is wide open. I think when you're writing and it's your own stuff, it's only you. Like what you're saying, the feelings that people are feeling from you, that's all attached to you now. And I just you know, when I say vulnerability, like it's like if you put it out there and it it's you, it's now you. And there was that I was gonna say, there was a pretty uh. I mean, there was a big shift and a lot of I think just me you trying to fully process, like, oh, when I put a song out, when I quote record a song, now, this doesn't say Florida Georgia line which is actually a brand that people that I was probably guilty at times of just kind of saying, oh no, that's an FGL song, or that can be I would justify maybe making certain decisions, or maybe the quality wouldn't be up to par, or something that maybe I wouldn't have potentially signed off on if it has said Tyler Hubbard, Does that make sense that there's this extra pressure I'm saying, and now you have to have your personal name is attached to stuff. I even considered, like do I come up with a stage name? Do I do something that I was like, you know what, No, I'm gonna put my name on it. It's gonna be my story and it's yeah, and there is gonna be the added pressure, but I'm gonna try to let that, you know, I'm gonna try to channel that pressure into great music and uh hopefully a deeper connection. I'm gonna place them away home. But before I hit this one, this is one I'd like for you to kind of, um, just elaborate a bit on when you were in the room right in the song, what you'r what your what your point was in that room in creating the narrative and recording the song way Home Cool. Yeah, I mean this was this was actually we talked about that moment where I decided that I I was going to make a project and then I wanted to start intentionally writing for me and telling my story. This was one of the first songs that I wrote. I wrote it with Corey Crowd and Kanan Smith and we went to the lake for the weekend and we just sort of made a goal to write a few songs that were, um, that would be for me, you know. So this was one of those. And it really is very an autobiographical. I mean very you know, you don't have to to to look too deep and to understanding what the song is about and who I am and part of my childhood and how I was when I was younger and hopefully how I am now and you know where my headspace is at and where you know, it feels a little bit more mature, but um again, it's it's really a first taste, in my opinion of the fans getting to uh no, more of my personal story, you know, and and where my head's at. Uh So, Yeah, it was a lot of fun and liberating writing and it was cool too to start to to shift my perspective, my goal. Maybe attaching too much to this, But when you say, you know, one of the first songs that you wrote when you're chasing just you and you're writing with Canaan, is that because again, Canan feels safe and is a good writer, and that's why you wrote with him, because you're like, it's a big change and probably a little nervous and probably and let's talk. Let's spend three days out of the lake. Let's talk about what this looks like. Let's let's not put too much pressure on ourselves, but let's be intentional in Crowder is the same way. I mean Canon and Crowder and two of my closest buddies and my most highly respected songwriters in this town, um and producers. So I knew we would leave this lake with a great demo, a great song or two, and we did. We wrote three songs and two of them made the album. So so yeah, it was very beneficial. But it was helpful to have those guys that that I could trust us and that I could just you know, just be real with the card, the the easy, the fun and the tough. So it was it was great. Here is way home. Dating life is a how way. Now I puts myus on my more than one time out to the wrongs of Lane, just letting my horse and all a while. Yeah, I got along until I got found who Now that it's well in my soul, I just right in seeing this, Jesus suddenly know the way home? Will there be again? It's you. I know, faith is very important to you. Do you feel like there'll be a little more of that since it's your story and your story actually is a lot of faith, And yeah, I mean there's always been little nuggets of that within the f GIL stuff because it's a big part of b Cana's story right together. Even I mean I met v K to worship service where he was leading worship, you know, so that we've actually led a worship together before. So um, so that was a big part. So I don't think it will really change a whole lot, and there won't be a whole lot more, but yeah, um, it's still a big part of my life and a big part of of who I am and where my joy comes from. And so I love to sing about it and you know, talk to the world about it. But it'll still be dynamic. You know, I wanted this album to uh to showcase all the sides of who I am, you know, and that is a big, a big part of who I am. But the more I've learned about myself, the more I've learned there's a a lot of sites to who I am, you know, which is was great as a creative and an artist to get to slowly showcase all those you know, different size and let people more into who I am. What's happened with you today? So far? You wake up? What? How do wake up? Man? Today was well, the kids and my wife out of town, so it's different than typically I wake up like six, but I slept into like seven thirty, which is pretty epic, and I was still able to have some me time, you know, in the morning. So so yeah, I had my coffee. I uh probably just I caught up on some emails. I probably got into my work a little quicker than I should have, but I was super sore, so I did a little stretch in the day and ran a little bit. I'm trying to get my cardio back up, so I did a little exercise and then uh man, I just kind of chilled this this knocked out a few emails, had lunch, and came over here. Has it been they'll, uh, let's let's remove the pandemic, because I think for everybody that's odd situation. Has it been a bit more? I will use my um uh, it's a lot more thinking than doing right now because you're strategizing what's coming up. Has it been a lot more of that since you're not really traveling and touring yet, then it would have been otherwise if you're still in fl Yeah, because you're rebuilding something, you know, it's not something that we're just trying to maintain at this point. We're rebuilding, we're re establishing, We're re relationships, were re reputation where everything, you know, we're re defining who I am as now a thirty five year old married man with kids who was install writer and an artist, you know, um as opposed to who I was with F g L, which was quite frankly a twenty five years and it's ten years ago. You know, it was we're all as we've you can imagine how much growth happens in ten years between thirty five. But but yeah, it's been. Uh, it's been amazing because it really caters to my personality to have someone or a team that I can really strategize the nuts and bolts in the details of every movement. You know, every intention between behind every release and every video and every you know, what's the purpose, what's the narrative, what do we want to say? And all those kind of conversations were not conversations we ever had before. So from so for me it's like, oh man, this is highly uh, this is highly efficient and effective way to do business. And and it really speaks to my personality, my my o c D attention to detail and just uh, maybe that's a control thing. I don't know, but it's nice to have a team that thinks and is align with me on that. And I was wondering where and not that I thought Haley was coming with you, But I guess Haley and my wife had message messaged something and she was she was like Tyler's coming over to do it, and so I guess I thought she would may come with you. I told Helen and said, hey, they may come over too. So but if they're out of town, it makes sense she's not sitting in the car. I thought maybe locked her in until it was you cannot go to Bobby said it was, or she's just out there waiting for the call. And then so three you got three kids. Now you're obviously a dad. I guess my point is in Florida Georgia Line, you were and even in your mind like that's a twenty five year old person project, this is a thirty five year old person project in Florida Georgia Line on stage. I guess I didn't picture part of that unit as a dad. Did you have songs that listen? Did you have any father songs without you? Okay, So my question is you're more mature as an artist. Is that going to be part of it a bit, just referencing the growth as an adult and having kids. I think underlying for sure, whether it'll be really directly um uh you know out there, I'm not sure, but I do think the fans will feel an evolution or growth or maturity. I've even had a fan. One of the coolest things that someone said recently to me was thank you for your knee music. I'm so glad you're doing this because it allows us to continue to grow with you. Because yeah, when you when we were all coming up with your music and f g L and which'll were doing, we were also kids and we were young and we were out wanting to go party and go to the bars and listen to f G music. Well, now, you know, we're all a lot of us are in the season that you're in where we you know, we have young kids, were exhausted. Life got a little bit different perspective. We still want to go out and have a good time occasionally, so there's still gonna be that, but there's more depth. There's more you know, just inspiration from even or from even my kids, you know, like Inside and Out for example, as a song that's not directly talking about my daughter, but I was definitely had her in the back of my mind when we were writing that song, and just the beauty of um, you know, the beauty that she has inside now and that's the message that we constantly want to tell her and the boys for that matter. But um a message that maybe not everybody gets to hear. And yeah, there'll be there'll be some more depth to it that hopefully makes an impact in the world for more than just you know, selling beers and uh having a good time, but there'll still be having a very public personal life. Again, it just goes back to as a unit. It's different than it. Neverboy knew Tyler and b K, but they knew f gl more than they do Tyler and b K. People know Dan and Shay more than they know Dan. I'm very close to Dan, but Dan himself can kind of live a life Dan and say camp they're they're mat so. But here you are now and you're solo and you have a personal that's you know, pretty public, do you consider more of a spotlight on the direct hubbards now? You know, we've talked about that, Haley and I, you know, and and I. I'd be silly to think that it's not going to change a little bit from me now that it's like my name and my face as opposed to because a lot of times somebody might say, hey, they're Florida Georgia line. It's like, well, actually I'm not Florida Georgia Line. But sure, so yeah, I mean I expect a little bit of a shift, you know. Um. But also we're trying to be intentional with man, like how much do we eat? Because it's so hard because our kids are such uh bringers of joy for us that you give us so much joy and they're so funny and they're entertaining and there this and that. That's so we're always constantly like sending videos to our friends. We're wanting to post videos for the fans because it's just so entertaining and that you know, everybody loves it. So we're trying to now find this like, Okay, well, we need to be careful a little bit here, because how much privacy do we want to have because we don't need to you know, we need to keep some of this private. We need to and we need to showcase what we want to showcase, but it needs to be again, intentional and thought out, and we don't need to just be um putting them on blasts all the time. They don't know that, you know, they don't they're not old enough to know. So anyways, Um, again, it's something we're constantly trying to navigate and figure out and and uh, we try to back off from that a little bit and just stick to you know, the music and the branding and the purpose behind what we're doing. And Haley's got a you know, um platform herself, and so she's and it's around motherhood and stuff like that. So there's a little bit of overflow there with a personal life and but she's also kind of especially lately, really trying to be you know, trying to be focused more um on outside things and outside of people other than other than our family and our kids. But we just love our family so much that makes it more difficult. For sure, what do they know? How old your oldest kiddos? Our oldest is live and she's four, Okay, so she ight doesn't still grass. You would be very surprised. I swear sometimes I think she has a brain of a twenty five year older. It blows my mind. She probably grasped quite a bit more than a lot of four year olds, and I wouldn't have I wouldn't be able to say that if it didn't have two boys to compare it to. So it's drastically different. So I'm like, okay, um, but for her, I mean, um, like what dad does, but also who these people are. If you're somewhere and somebody that she doesn't know comes up to you, like, this is all normal to her, but it's not normal, right, So how do you have that conversation? Yeah? Well everything is is exactly that, just a conversation, right, And I try to keep it simple for her, But I try to inform her because she's super intuitive and also really aware, like way more than I ever thought about being. But Hayley's more like that. So she's really and sometimes I don't even have to tell her. She just gets it. She just knows, like, oh yeah, they're a fan of Daddy's music. Oh yeah, and they know they've known for years. Daddy writes songs and Daddy plays shows and Daddy makes music. That's what Daddy does, and so they're super proud of that. They love my music, which makes me feel good. But there, um, they've also become kind of my I mean, they'll tell me if they don't like a song too, so they're kind of like my and our team unsolicited uh opinions. But um, but it's great and and right now it's it's a really a fun season where we hadn't had to navigate to too much of that, you know, um, the fame thing. I mean, honestly, the pandemic really protected us and allowed us to live a very very normal, simple, just you know, um life. Um, but I think now that we're getting back on tour, they'll be and she's getting a little older and um, but a lot of it just comes with living life. She's super observant and just having conversations, and she'll ask the questions when she doesn't when she wants to know something, she'll ask. So it's really just being prepared to know how to answer. What does more music coming out this year? I mean, what does that mean? Um? Well, I'm going on this fall tour. I know I need more than three songs out to play, and I probably won't be able to put all the songs out that um that I'll be playing on the tour, but I'd love to have some more. So we're gonna put some more songs out throughout the fall and just keep them coming and then we're gonna Um. As of now, at least the plan is to put to put an album out in the beginning of next year. So will you play songs? And I guess you're gonna have to, but let me ask a questions like a dummy. Will you play songs that aren't out? Yeah? Yeah, that I'll play for you for sure sixty minutes if you only got three songs out, unless you're playing like the Big Dave Matthews Band jam fish jam style, you know. So I think I'm gonna have like eight or nine. I'm gonna try to have like eight songs out um by the time hopefully. I don't know if it'll be right when tour starts, but anyways, it'll be it'll be top of fall, you know, at some point in there, and then just so I can have some more familiarity. But even though songs will be brand new, they probably won't be known, so it'll be different for sure, playing songs that people hadn't heard. So and we're getting close to the time here, and I appreciate you hanging out and talking for an hour. Um, what does indefinite what's the term you guys use indefinite hiatus? What's what was it? Yeah, because I'm sure official my official uh thing was we're not breaking up, We're just taking a break, you know, Um, which was which it is that? But at the same time, UM, you know, these careers that we've chosen to pursue don't happen overnight. You know, it's not like you're just gonna there's a building process and there's a there's a journey that happens if you want to pursue a uh launching a different career and so or another career. Um, so yeah, for me, I mean I told b K, you know, let's we're gonna give this adent and we're gonna both build something great and then we can reassess when when you know, five ten years down the road, we can. But I'm not taught. Yeah, but for me, this is the thing that I'm gonna be doing for for a while. You get a million bucks to play a wedding together? Uh uh probably not? Probably not right now. It's that important to you, And I'm not saying it is a reason, but I'm just it's that important to you to really focus on the Tyler Hubbard. Yeah, and I'll tell you why, because UM and I and I have had to turn down some dates because if you don't cut it off completely, it will always be there and it always creates more UM confusion for the fans. They don't know what's going on. They think you know and not. Well, it's multiple, there's multiple things to it. UM. At this point I needed to fully fully stop one thing to be able to fully focus on another, UM because it really does take all the capacity that I have, all the creativity, all the schedule, all the time. UM. Because you have that wedding date that you just mentioned there would have been something that popped up that I needed to go do that I would have had to say no to last minute or you know what I mean, just something and so um, so yeah, we've just decided to um completely pushed pauls on all that. Starting in Septembers are last f g L date and then we're are you're still playing shows? Yeah, we're playing f GL shows through the summer festivals that we've committed to, got on the books, and we kind of wanted to get to play some shows before we well I commend you guys were sticking with that. I mean I no contractually, but yeah, still we wanted to. We thought we were going to get to do more, honestly, and we ended up having to cancel some tours and it was trying to get back into it after the pandemic was hard for us. So to get to have some shows for closure wasn't was important. You know, well, you do a final shows, and you do a purposeful final show, Uh like this is it the last one will be the last one. But it's like it's like a schedule to have a special log huge you guys get along right now? Yeah? Completely, I mean, yeah, we don't hang out on the weekends. Uh. Yeah, we when we get together and play shows, it's just like all right here, you know you still hang like like my show, we don't hang out. I mean we both literally we both have our own bus. Even before all, I mean for the last five years, it's really not like we you know, I don't go antiquing with b K. I don't completely get the thirteen years. Right, it's important to have each other. We used to hang out all the time. We don't anymore together all the time, right, That's how we That's exactly how it was a Bekna. And then now that we live in different states, you know, it's it's it's not like it used to be where we're hanging out all We used to live in the same house together, right, So so yeah, it's shifted. But uh and we're both in different seasons of life. But ultimately, um, b K is my bro and I love him and we've you know, created a lot of life together and when we get back together and play shows, it's it's a good time for sure. I get off that. My final part of this is a lot of people and you probably heard it yourself, say those guys do not like each other, that's why they split up, or or it was political you know. Sure you've heard that too. And if I don't ask this, people gonna kill me online. I'm glad you are. Was it a political division that caused you guys to go, we can't do this as a unit anymore. I'm so glad you asked, because nobody does ask. And the problem is, UM, at the time, we didn't want to talk about what was going on internally, or I should take that back. B K did not want to talk about what was going on. I wanted to talk about the shifts that were happening, the decisions that were being made, the conversations that were being had. I really wanted to sorry in the band, within the band, but but I also wanted to respect b Kay's desire not to talk about it, and so I didn't feel like it was my place to tell his story with his decision and his you know everything that you know, he's the one that initiated this whole solo thing in the first place, so I didn't feel like it was my job or my responsibility UM, And so basically nothing got said. So it created confusion in which everyone to creating their own narrative at that point, to have something to try to understand why in the world would these guys not be you know, why would they want to go do their own thing? And so at the time, it was in the middle of the big political It was actually literally around the same time that the um that the election happened and all that, and so that was kind of people just said, well, it's political, you know, um. But ultimately, no, it was never political. Me and b K don't. I mean, we definitely don't see out on every single thing, but we don't have any animosity about it, you know what I mean, we totally agree to disagree on certain things. We talked about it. We've never had any beef over any kind of politics. I'd like, I mean, I literally I'm personally not a political person, so it kind of it's just sort of humorous to me. And we've never up until the election, we never even had any conversations about politics that did you hear that people were going, you guys are fighting. Oh. I would see it all the time. I still do, because people say why are they breaking up? And then someone else will say, oh, it's political, and I'm like, which kind of bothers me. I'm just sid of decided like not to let it bother me. But I'm like, because they gotta they gotta um blame it on something other than they can't just say, oh, the guys really just want to have some individuality and do something different. They've been doing this for ten years like um so, so yeah, I mean, we can blame it on that if we want to, But ultimately it does bump me out because I'm like, no, that's not the narrative. That's not the story. Um and and quite honestly, I don't I don't care enough about politics to let it affect my life, especially my career. So I was, you know, I was a little bunned that that was a narrative. But at the same time, again, like I said, I didn't feel like it was my place to to buddy in. But when anybody asked me, I'll gladly talk about it. So say a million bucks no wedding, that we can't do it, I'll just be tight we could do it, yeah, and I'll pass crap. All right, Well, listen, I you know, I commend you for a few bucks about a wedding. I love. That's that's what stood out. Well, I mean the question is, you know, is this a line of all right, that's that, this is this, We're not mudding the That's a great way to ask it. Hey, million dollars yes or no, and probably not. I'm like, all right, well I get it. You are respletely dedicated. If it's your September, nope, call me, call me on the personal number and I'll come for half at Tyler Hubbard. Um, yeah, I appreciate you sharing that, and you know, you know as well as I do. People are gonna pick up that back part of that especially, and that's going to be in lots of places going. Hey said it wasn't political. Um, I think it's good. I think that's I think that's a good thing, and so good luck. Man. It's cool to see. You definitely could have just gone, you know, I'm good for a while. Chill. I tried that, bro, I literally did. I'm like, I'm just gonna write songs and literally just chilling my family. But what what was? What was itching? What that was? It? To get on a stage? Was it? It was? It was to make it. It was to see if you could do it by yourself. It was all the above. It was to tell my story to see if I could do it by myself, to record songs that I loved and and you know, maxing master songs that I love and have a project and then yeah, I'm mistouring like crazy, and so yeah, all those things that I thought I could do without for about six months, I realized pretty quickly now that's a big piece of the puzzle that that's what that's part of what makes songwriting so much fun. You know. It's also and will end on this It's gonna be a fun humble not that you need it, but I've had it in a way too of you having to be you're the second act. You're now the guy that they didn't buy tickets to see, you know, and you have to kind of win them over. And that's kind of a new world that you've seen for acts that you've brought on and now you got to go back and do it. And it's just getting to appreciate that again because once you're in it, you're like, oh, dang, you know, for me to have like my own radio show or TV show and then for me to have to drop down and go and be on American Idolize not the main I'm second. I'm the second line. It's Ryan and Luke and Katie Lionel. Then it's me and it's like, man, this is all I'm used to and it's great, but it's like, yeah, it's I had to adjust and go, well the same about me, and that's weird. But it was great for me because it's perspective that I lost a bit when I was only worried about running the show. So it's good man, I I'm I'm super pomph for you. You know your song is doing really well right now. I looked at it before you came over, think maybe like nineteen or twenty or twenty one or something. Are you watching it? No, I just look at my weekly update that I get, which is that's watched just enough, just enough to know what's going on, but not to get obsessed with it, because yeah, it will it could. I can see it over taken. When you gets is that when you start to go probably top ten, probably six, yeah, because then you know, well, some more requests. There's gonna be some work tied to the rest of this this pool here, so yeah, you guys follow Tyler at Tyler Hubbard Three songs out now, but as he said, it'll keep coming and then he'll be out with Keith uh this fall. That's it. You're doing it. You're doing it. It's a different stage and I'm super excited for you and it's an honor coming here and hang out with you. It's always fun. Thanks for chatting with me, and thanks for the support. Dude means a lot. Read Anything you want to say to Tyler, you've been what you've been? Reads a big you know, music guy. He runs all the digital, but he usually has a question. He's been just itching to ask. All right, let's see here. Um, how often do you find yourself recording at home? Like do you have a home studio? I do? Um, that comes in waves for me. You know, I'll take a few weeks off and then I'll you know, I'll feel creative and want to get on there and make tracks and try to record some demos. Um, but just enough for me not to get good enough to want to do it on the regular basis, because I'm there's so many great guys in this town that it's you know, it's it can be frustrating, um, because they make it look so easy and it's not always that easy so, but I do enjoy like tracking vocals and getting to kind of have that outlet if I want. That's awesome. I like it really good job, I've had, Jealousy you Have. That was the first song to listen to. I just got a new vehicle. I'm not trying to flax or anything. It's got a new whip, all right, Tyler. Good to see abuddy too. Bro. Thanks