OUT With Nintendo Switch, IN with PLAYSTATION PROJECT Q | Nontendo Podcast #54
The Nintendo Switch is in TROUBLE, now that Sony's PlayStation Project Q is right around the corner... and by TROUBLE we mean, not really even worried a little bit. Let's talk about it.
2023-06-02
64 min
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Okay, we need three too. I'm that bad boy. But okay, we are alive, my friend, all right, everyone, we are live. It's a it's a it. We haven't done this before from a studio. It's a whacking wild I'm hoping well alive. We had a debate, a discussion about whether or not we had a time accountdown before we hear a lot of but I said, wanted to go because people hate when there's like a five minute time accountdown a lot. There's usually a little countdown so people can come in. So we have a minute too, because it takes a while for I'm just I'm not explaining to you, I'm explaining it to them. Usually there's we want people to come in. People need to a second to get the notification and then come in and they don't want to miss anything. The problem is after the fact that timer stays baked into the video and it's annoying, really annoying to remove, and we can remove, but it stays there for a day and sometimes it messes up the order, sometimes completely breaks down. I was like, you know what, let's just do it. And for everybody that's going to be asked skiing today, is this live, unlike every other episode that's premiered. This time, baby, it's live. Are we touching to prove that we're not screen Yeah, there's one guy that thinks that we're green screened every episode. He's like, they almost got me this time, but the reveal is going to blow his mind. Well maybe not, maybe only his mind will not be blown. Yeah, we have frigging George Lucas directing every one of these episodes. You know, I heard something really interesting the other day. AI has gotten to a point where it's creating art and it's creating visual effects. George Lucas in the seventies with Star Wars, invented special effects and invented careers in special effects because he had to find people to learn how to do special effects, and he rended a whole career. Now fifty years later, that career is almost gone because of AI. What does that have to do with anything here? The intro let us know when we're out of the interim, What do they have to do with anything? What do you mean George Lucas created special effects? Now AI and there's no special effects. You mentioned George Lucas, and I just found that really earth shattering. That AI is. It's taking over like art and visual effects. Now when people make pitch book pit pitch books in Hollywood, they used to get artists to do the art. Now they just use AI to like render out, and it's starting more and more to gain in Hollywood and visual effects. I just find it really interesting that George Lucas in our time kind of I mean we're kind of young, created a whole career in special effects and that career is almost gone, and you wouldn't there's not even he pioneered a lot of special effects and a lot of special effects technology, but there's always there's been special effects since like the freaking thirties. As far as like special visual graphic effects. He had to like find people to create visual effects that they've never been. Lucas Arts had a lot, had a big it was a huge impact, pioneered and is credited for really the boom of special effects. Yeah, sure, especially in the movies he took. I just find it interesting that in in a lifetime, a whole career that is so influential has been created and is almost dead. And now if you want to get into special effects or Hollywood, you're better rock getting into coding so I can program the AI to do it. So I took a I used to want to be a concept artist for like video games and stuff, and I took a class that was about concept art and the teacher did concept art for west Anderson movies. The Dog one. Maybe he did one with like a dog puppet. That's the only one I've seen. Any one I've seen is the one with the child pile of dogs. Yes, No, I saw the Fox one. That's good. There's one with a train with Owen Wilson, I think. Yeah, movie's like an Indian something like half of his movies. Yeah, that was a really good, funny Like she did the concept art for that stuff, and I was interested, and she stopped working with Weston. She just stopped getting work for some reason. So she became a teacher, so true. And then I wanted to show her like video game concept art. So I brought in the art book for Assassin's Creed because I was like, this is really pretty, like the Assassin's art books always better than the games. For Assassin's Creed. Yeah, Fanny, I showed her and she's like, oh my god, this is beautiful. I was like, yeah, they do this all like, like digitally, you know, it's like awesome. She's like, wait a second, these are pictures, but they draw over. I was like, yeah, sometimes they like they like kit bash, they like throw. They take pictures off the internet and they just make them. You know. She's like, that's not art. I was like, is that not when a paint just sits down with his little easel in a in a lake and paints the lake. Is he not doing the same thing? So I like get what she's saying, but it's one of those things where it's like she must love AI. That's what I'm saying. It's like these people started doing things digitally because it was faster. They just needed to get the concept across, so they use pictures and it helped them make things quicker. And older people were like, that's not art, And now AI is doing the same thing. It's I mean, we joke about it, but it is a little scary. There's gonna be a time pretty soon where there will be AI podcasts and like odd jobs that that's already a thing. That was one I saw with Steve Jobs and um and uh called what's the old like the guy that the oh you're talking about Bill Gates and Socrates. Yes, that was the one Bill Gates and Socrates. I was having a conversation and Socrates was like, how does the window users enjoy the experience? I like the ones with the presidents where they're yes, amazing. I like that. I think that's more though, that is when they type into a chat GPT constituation and they read a text. Yeah that's what this like Bill, Bill, Bill and Ted thing was like actual AI communication, which them mimicking their personalities and which is freaky. Yeah. Um, and that'll be I've said this for a long time, but there's gonna be an AI YouTube but pretty soon, like there's a two streamer. There's that uh like anime girl that is just all AI. Well there's already AI models like on Instagram and stuff, those supermodels that don't actually exist. Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's it started to bleed into photoshop a little bit. It kind of sucks, but like, no, dude, have you seen the photoshop thing that I sent you? Yeah? You used it, because like that's the limit. Oh, just like the creating the room. Yeah, it's really good at like expanding like like a picture and like trying to fill in what's around it, and it's good at like changing the shirt, like, oh, I want to wear a collar shirt and if you high light the shirt it will change it. A lot of that stuff is getting really easy. When I did my my Birth of the While to the Kingdom playthrough on twitch U, I redid the trailer and put me into it, and I was like, well, how am I gonna get link out of this trailer? That's gonna be really hard. No, it took two seconds on YouTube to learn how to do it on after effects, where you I just traced link like pretty much once, and then it order filled him in the rest of the scene and I could just hit remove and it removed him, and it replaced him with what like the AII guess figured might be there, and it was really good at it. Yeah. So the whole thing with AI, though, that is going to make it way easier for people, is instead of going through that whole YouTube tutorial and highlighting link and telling it to remove it and everything, you will just type into a text field remove link the main character and it will just do it. You know what. I've always They've included that into Unity now the game engine, so you can make a game by saying I want a pac Man style games instead of pac Man like this, it's it's Woodhawker's face dot jpeg, and I would play those games are dola dot png. Oh, I wouldn't want to eat dollar. But that's you will just explain the game that you want and it will just make the game. Okay, we'll do that for me. Please, then thank you, and then there goes all game development. You know what, what I've always wanted is to be able to edit with my brain. Imagine like you sit down at like like a premiere and you put on like a cap and like you put like you plug into your neurons and then you're just like looking at the screen and you're just like editing in real time and you don't even have to like really do anything. I mean you could do an eye tracker. Yeah, wow, let's do it like that. You know how like on like laptops to like grow and like shrink things, you use your two fingers or if like it's like shrink gift like a cross like making it smaller. I feel like I have like a very simple formula for my videos that in AI could absolutely do if they needed to. I think with something like what we do where we do the same thing so often, it should be able to learn and be like that thing i'd last week. You have to write a script and everything, but then like all of the b roll and stuff is just And that's why I'm saying, if you want to get into visual effects in twenty twenty three, get into coating, because that's visual effects of the future. Baby getting AI to do it. You know. The other thing I've really been wanting lately, what a PlayStation que. Something to stream your your game, something to stream my PlayStation in five games on a crisp LCD screen. What a transition? Yeah? Nice? Oh I have it. Oh, so out with the he's actually getting something out with the Nintendo switch in with the panastonic que PlayStation que. I always call it pesst here it is. Oh is that a video? Uh not yet? That's smart actually, because you, I mean, without getting too ahead of ourselves, you have effectively created it there. Yeah this last night. Really you're having a lot of fun with that. You've come a long way from Booby Zelda. That's the first thing. This is so I found this piece. This is a little clip for the dual Sense controller. Uh, and then I look like a push up broad and then I found I mean, yeah, then I found a case for this Google pick a case for the Google Pixel phone, and then I just I just put I just connected them, and then I just hit print. Can you make me one? And I can't find the PlayStation five? So I suppose you're not home. You make I mean no, it should still work. You want this for my iPad? Uh? Yeah, if you can. Yeah, tell me the model the IPAP That is essentially what the PlayStation Q is. It's a PlayStation five controller that's been band sold in half and then stuck on the side of a switch tablet ye, So you the thing. The thing that's really confusing is that the hit I keep wanting to say, Panasonic, give it to me, the PlayStation Q. Yeah, streaming only? Did I get that into your head? You I've been doing I didn't think about it at all, and now that's the time. Now you're doing it every time. So yeah, the it's it's streaming only. But that exists already, there's already you already have a remote play on any Android and any iPhone, or you can just have the app and it does the exact same thing. That the Panasonic. God damn it, the Q can do I have a Panasonic que thing that I wanted to say. We should have put it on the breaking table. Here, I can get it. No, it's okay, Scoot, he's in chat by the way, Scoot Jackson, where the hell? Oh I'm here. I got it. Oh nice, So you'll in so you'll PlayStation just turned on at home. Yep, this is actually pretty well, it's uh as long as it's in rest mode. So the yellow lights are going, yeah cool. This is actually kind of freaky. There's not that much lag. There's a little bit ali so it's really good on my MacBook, but it sucks on this. Yeah, it's going in and out. Initially it was like super smooth, and now it's also we're off of my home WiFi, so but that's an old I'm on the studio WIFA. That's a Google Pixel Free a so XL so it's an old phone and I got it like two hundred. This is a I mean, possible good example of the Q and some stuff I wanted to talk about today because yeah, when you're at home, let's talk about what it is. Yeah, So Sony just revealed the PlayStation Project Q, which is a handheld PlayStation console in a sense, but it works over Wi Fi to stream your games. It can't play anything locally. Now, there's not a ton more information to give about it. Second eight inch screen, and my biggest killer here, a regular LED screen is not LED as far as we know, is that it's it's LCD. Yeah, yeah, so it's not. It's a regular LCD screen, which I think is a weird choice, even if you're cutting down on cost. In today's society, you have your video games on PlayStation a kind of like the cream of the crop, especially visual. You want to get the ray tracing, you want to get the full K experience, you want to get all of that. Why would you want to play those games on an LCD screens were for battery? Yes, yeah, I guess, but that's a that's a that's a dumb choice. But I think people are going to be home when they're playing this anyway. I think LCD screens can look good, and I thinks can look bad. You need a good OLED screen, you know, to make it worth it. What are you playing that trending? Okay, I just got to say for that, just so that we could jump in and yeah, I want to see how it rugs. Uh. I will say I have done Xbox remote play on that before and it is smoother. Though, Oh I have an issue. What's that? This? Uh? Double d cup makes it so you can't bring the control of the analogs down all the way. All right, it's the first print. I printed it last night. I have to shave that down at yea, you can easily edit that. I'll do that when I print yours. I I got so I started using sendico yeah for like um for bids and stuff, and I got the game Boy Player for the pants on a Queue. Oh that's aweso. Yeah, how much was that? Dude? They had ones that were like two three thousand dollars, but like I did a bid for like six hundred, which is good because like if you go on Ebate, they're like four grand. Someone was selling christ some most selling out on Facebook marketplace for the pants on a Queue with the game Boy Player for like forty five hundred dollars, and I was like, dude, can I just buy the good Boy Player off you? And he uh, He's like no, I want to sell both, which I get, but yeah, Sendico had him for a lot cheaper. My god, and it's actually I was surprised how easy it was to use sendico. Yeah, O lord, I'm straight into a bus fight. Yeah, that's why. That's why I even started using it. Please don't ruin my safar. So here's the big problem with with can I show the camera? That? Just show your camera? Yeah. The big problem with PlayStation remote play is that you need a PlayStation four or five controller. So I have all these great Android devices. What did you do? It's like, oh, my god, did you picture and picture? That's crazy if you do picture and picture with that on. I don't know what I did. I didn't do anything. It rotated and it ruined everything. And now I'm being attacked by the boss because the control it's well, bub fixus is my mistake. I just stood up. H it is in my eyes au pad situation. I finished what I was saying. Yeah, the big problem is that it needs a PlayStation four or five controller. I have all these great Android devices. Even you have a Steam Deck, we got the Asus Allied whatever. You can't use any of that stuff unless you connect a PlayStation four or five controller to it. So where to do the PlayStation streaming. Yeah, so where an Xbox remote player or game pass even will work on the Steam deck with the built in controller, you don't need a PlayStation queue. I almost said Panasonic again. PlayStation has created this walled garden where the only way to do the streaming is with what I have in my hands right now. Or you get a PlayStation que. Or there's one more thing, the backbone controller that I just ordered. I kind of get it though, because the PlayStation controller is so unique. A lot of the games utilize all it's adaptive features, and like the weird touch pad and everything. It's a little less generic than like an Xbox experience where you're playing PC games just with controller inputs. It's like I kind of killed me in the game. I didn't do nothing, I stood up. So I get why they'd want to. You know, you can play in their mind, it's like you can play our games remotely and on other things, but at least experienced them in the right way by using the controller. Yeah, and I get that because that's so much technology in this control. Yeah, but you gotta let some of it go, Like there's no reason, Like how often is the adaptive triggers like detrimental to the game. Point. No, I don't disagree, but I feel like they're really trying to build an ecosystem of gaming entertainment, whereas Xbox is just completely let go because their console failed, you know, like everything is failing for them. Well, Microsoft is a software company, Yeah, and that's why they're more open to that stuff. The PlayStation still wants to keep It's the same as Switch. Yes, Switch wants to keep everything contained. You're just lucky enough that PlayStation is more willing to do some things that are more twenty twenty three. Yeah, I agree, but I don't think there's a reason why they can't if they're going to well yeah, I guess they want. They want you to buy their hardware. That want to buy that, And I think it's about the experience of you're playing a PlayStation game, but you still need to play it on a PlayStation. Have to let go of some of that experience. There's don't know if they do PlayStation the dual sense controller is not revolutionary, right, but it's that controller. Okay, it's like the most generic ass controller with this line with this fun like, but you're not liking it. Doesn't change their need or want to do anything about that. No, yeah, no, you're right, but they should. There's no reason for them to be so they should for you. I know, it's just I don't think they should. As a company, I think that. I think they're fine to not. I just wish they made it more like a PSP, like a true handheld. I think that would have been cool. That's the thing is that it can't run any games on its own at all. I know. Yeah, but then and I kind of I had a video that I am hoping to upload after this kind of about that. But I think that's asking a bit much to get PlayStation back into the handheld market now in the middle of twenty twenty three, starting a whole library from scratch, unless you're gonna say, like, well, just have the same library, just haven't played PlayStation. Well that's what the que does. But it would be cool if it had like a cloud download system where it's not just like you like where you don't need your PS five on. But then it would be cool if it was cloud based where you can download the cloud safe, play the game, and then go on your piers. Then it's gonna cust more true. And it's also not going to be able to run most of the PlayStation library. What he's saying is it should be like game Pass. Yeah, yeah, the download that that makes it sound like a different thing. You want it to be able to stream the game from PlayStation servers, not necessarily your PlayStation five. Yes, yeah, that's that's PlayStation plus premium. And it sucks. It's like like they have this like like it's almost there, but not quite. They're working on something like that to be more like a game Pass competitor. They haven't stated whether or not this will do streaming in that way. So far. All we know is the PlayStation Q will do remote play from your PlayStation five, so you will need a PlayStation five. I would imagine in the future it will do something more like game Pass where you can stream from PlayStation service. But that would make it more worth it for me to buy it. Yeah, I like, I already know I wouldn't get it. Yeah. First, it's not going to be for a lot of people, But I also think that a dedicated handheld isn't going to be for a lot of people. I mean, I think there's a reason why the Vita kind of failed for them, and they moved on from it, And I think in twenty twenty three, when the Switch has that market cornered and already has an established library of games, they're hopefully going to roll into the next thing too. And you have a billion actual handhelds coming out. People have the Steam Deck, they have the rug Ally now they have thirteen thousand things from A and EO every single week. Yeah, Like, I don't think that's a market that PlayStation can really viably get into right now, it's going to cost twice as much. So why did they do this? Because I think it's a successibility. It's just a way of getting more games into plays hands. And if they found a way to hopefully get it down below three hundred dollars, and just how is it getting more games and how is it getting games and more people's it's giving need a PlayStation. It's giving people more ways to experience their games, so they can play it handheld in their house and get that Switch feel, but in their house, or if you have good remote play, I mean you could go to your friend's house and go to a land and not have to bring a console like it has uses, It's not going to be for everybody. I'd imagine it has better WiFi than this old phone that I'm using, which I will say again, I mean it's worked a little better, but yeah, it'll I'd imagine it's going to be a lot faster. I think what they've done with this, I don't know if it'll be a huge success or not, but I think it'll do better than trying to release the Vita three. At this point, I think it well, I don't know about that. I think I think they would have They would definitely have much more success if they released the handheld that could play games on its own. At least you know what you're getting with this, rather than buying into a Vita three that ends up getting no support after a year or two. So the big problem with the Vita was that when it launched, they said, this can play any PlayStation three game. Yeah, and it can't, and it could, and they lied and they got sued for it. And then they thought was going to remote playoff of the PlayStation three, and the only game that was able to remote play was MLB The Show. So then when the PlayStation four came out, they said, guys, we need to make sure that every single game could play on the Vita, and then they did, and it was pretty good. Other than wanting another consult to get exclusives for which they could just make those exclusives on PlayStation. What would you even want a PlayStation handheld for this? This is what I want out of the what they what I think they should do out of the PlayStation Project Que. It's Project Que. We got to call it project this, Project Que, not PlayStation, because that's how I'm going to start saying Patasonic the Project Que, which actually gets a whole new name before it comes out, because I hate this day. It's not gonna be Project que hate noway it should be. It's it's got some juice in it, all right, Like it's for a remote play, but it's got a processor and stuff. It's got something. So you're looking forward to hack in it. It's going to be impossible to hack. It's going to be so annoying. At the very least. Let me download like small like indie games like Celeste or Dead Cells or something like that. Dead Cells can run on an Android phone. Why can't it run on something like this? This is very similar to the Logitech g Cloud, which was also a low powered Android tablet, but that could play dead cells. I think maybe it was an old or nothing thing. They were like, why would we give people the option of just downloading a few indies that aren't even odd first party ips. It's it's an Apple sort of mindset where it's like, if we can't do it absolutely perfect, or we don't want anything to do with a stick to the streaming element. But it's like to an extreme because I don't think place theation does. I think it's perfect. There might have also been like a level of marketing confusion they would try to avoid rather than have it to go into Yeah, it streams everything, but you couldn't download some things but not all the things, only deep things like the confusion. Maybe they would just like it's its own thing and it's only streaming. That's probably more accurate to why they did this, but I think that that's not I think that's going to hurt them. I think that that's not the answer. I think it'll sell as much as the PlayStation VR two, and they seem okay with making that, so I think that they're lying about how okay they are with the places of VR two sales. I don't understand. That's a different conversation, but I don't understand how they could have seen it going any other way. But yeah, no, I agree, Yeah, it doesn't really. I mean, they had the market gauge and analytics from the first time they did it, there wasn't that much interest. It had its cool community, but what did they think that this time around everyone would be like, oh but this time though, Yeah, I don't know. They had the exact same like situation at launch and the exact it seems like the same sort of support with games and stuff, like, everything seems exactly like it was before, and it didn't really work that well before, and it did seem to they did sell more I thought, having been long, but it did seem to die immediately. And then we had the PlayStation Showcase recently where we saw the Project Q was revealed, and we did see some things residume before remake in VR, a new uh Arizona Sun. Yeah that looks sick and I don't I doubt those will even be exclusives. But well, the so the residume before, we had that in VR already, but this is the remake. The remake, Yeah, so this is more interesting. But yeah, I had when I was watching it live, I think I did confuse a lot of people. A lot of people in chat were like, wow, I told you would. PlayStation looks so much better than Oculus. I was like, no, it's different games. Yes, that was that was the GameCube version era in VR, this is the remake version. Yeah, idiots dumb. There was one they had three VR games, Resume, Befour, Arizona Sunshine. Then there was one that was like a tactical game that actually looked really cool, but I forgot the name of it. Actually, since we are live, why don't we do a poll in the chat. You don't got accessibility of that over there? Right now, let's let's do it. Let's pull our audience and see out of PlayStation five owners. People keep asking if this is live or premiere. It's live baby. Yeah, it's very confusing because some of you guys were live baby, but we are actually live, and guess what. Guess what we can do live? Cut to Bob, cut to me, we're live? Well, live baby? Did you want to show them something? So do a poll for for PlayStation five owners, I'm interested in buying the queue. I have no interest in buying a queue. And then I guess a third option for just I don't even have a PlayStation five. What's a queue? What's a queue? Yeah? Did you want to show them this or something? Yeah? Goes. You can use my camera maybe I'll do I'll tell you one. Yeah, that's good. I'm gonna die. It's me. That is literally what the queue is. It's a it's a tablet that streams the game. Just a screen will be bigger. But it does look like it's just a straight PlayStation five controller. I mean, I'm down for it. I want to say. I think it looks good. I'm gonna buy it. It looks like just another PlayStation five controller that happens to have a screen in it, which is the WU, which is the WI you. I mean, I think it'll have some uses for me. Again, let me let me let me talk about remote play within a house because a lot of people might think of streaming games and they have bad taste in their mouth because they've tried Stadia which was bad but had issues, or they tried our audience have probably tried the streaming on the switch, something like control or residentat. I think people have had a bad experience with remote play because they probably don't have a great internet infrastructure. Yes, well, with those other examples I listed, those are streaming off of a server somewhere else in the world. Remote play is your PlayStation is running on your network, and if you're at home with your queue, you are on your Wi Fi network on your queue on your network. And there really shouldn't be any lag. If there's any noticeable input lag, PlayStation has done something wrong. Yeah, and you should really only need like a medium amount of decent internet for this. You don't even need to have fiber or anything. Yeah. So the way that streaming works is it's show. It's streaming you a video like you would like how you're watching this like watching YouTube exactly. You're just getting this on your screen and then your device is sending the inputs and it's just like video game. Yeah exactly, yeah, exactly. You're just getting the video feed while you're sending out your inputs like like you would if you were typing something and like a text chat. You know, it's just in real time, so there's really not much data involved. Yeah, King of data. Though. Do you think they would offer like now, they probably wouldn't. I was gonna say if they would offer some sort of like that poll is up in chat by the way. Yeah, I was going to say if they would offer some sort of cell type of thing, like you need Wi Fi to do this at this point with the with the pready good WiFi. That's why I like. It's about latency. But that's why I like doing It's not so much the data speed. It's the latency that's the biggest issue. And when you're outside of your WiFi, that's when you start going to start getting the lagm what are we thirty miles away? I'm thirty two. But that's why I like it on my iPad because my iPad head is cellular and it's a big screen. And if I get something like that where I can clip it onto my UM controller, then I'll be good at like medium quality. So I was using remote play in bed connected to the PlayStation five that was downstairs when we were playing Destiny. When we're starting up Destiny playing it on my laptop and my laptop's got good Wi Fi because it's a laptop, and it was awesome. Yeah, I had no idea I was on remote play. I completely I have a good example to it after this. That's my whole example. Oh so you know, wow, you know my glasses that I have my my v True glasses. They finally sent me the neck band piece, which is really cool. So you plug the glasses in the neck band and then it's a contain unit. The neck band has controls on it. It connects to Wi Fi or the Internet, and you can stream to it. You can like watch Netflix and all of that, um and you also stream games. So when I was at my house, I downloaded Steamlink onto the neck band and I connected an Xbox controller to the neck band and I loaded up Cyberpunk on my PC and I was sat upstairs playing Cyberpunk on glasses from my neck from my PC downstairs, and it was one for one. I saw no lag and it looked really good. And that's like, you know, that's not's not even a PlayStation or something bulky on your neck? Is it? Like? Is it like it's considering considering what it's doing. Not really. Have you ever seen like people that wear the ear plugs that have like a band, Yeah, it's like that. It's a little bigger. How is it wirelessly connected? Yeah, I'm also trying to fig that. Well, I was on Wi Fi, So the neck band connects Wi Fi to your router, yes, and then you're the controller connects to the neck band wirelessly, and then the glasses have a little cord that connect somewhere around. Is it like an HDMI caboard? Like? How does what type of cable is going from the glasses to that? It's its own proprietary magnetics snappy cables video. Yeah, how does? We got a lot of questions. How does the controller connect to the neck band? Just Bluetooth Wi Fi and something? Why the neck band and not the device that you're playing too? Because because I'm streaming the game, so you're on steam Link, yes, using ste I downloaded steam Link to the neck band. Is it like Android? Yeah? The next Google Play. Oh that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. The only annoying thing is, for some reason, the PlayStation streaming app and the Xbox streaming app aren't supported on it. So there's Xbox Link and PlayStation Link apps, third party apps that four four dollars each. I didn't want to buy them, so but you can do that all of the PlayStation remote play third party apps because they're do exist. Ones like that, uh are a nightmare. Yeah, the x Box one probably works fine, but the PlayStation one you need to take your eye. You need to find your PlayStation ID in Base sixty four. So it's not just your PlayStation id, it's you need to do some freaking Python script to get your long string of code and then put it in. And then I tried it, it's still didn't work. I can't be balded. Yeah, but I will say I've never felt more in the future than sitting there wearing classes and streaming a game to my neck. Yeah, that was wild. The reason you need a third party app for PlayStation is because you want to use a different controller. That's the only Yeah, and they have third party apps, but they all just are hard to use. I wouldn't want to play a PlayStation game, not with a PlayStation control. Why I'm playing a PlayStation game. Why I don't want to use an Xbox control? I gonna get the box is so confused. It's gonna ask me to put in triangle. I'm gonna be staring at my control. Is that why? X is the one that will confuse you on any platform? Right, So that's going to confuse me. And then it's gonna be like they're gonna be pop up on the screen. I'm gonna be playing a game, it's gonna be like, do you feel the awesome adaptive feedback? I'm gonna go no, because I'm using that happens all I'm wild Backs controller from twenty two thousand and three, Like, I don't feel that most of the games that you're playing are gonna be third party games that have that support every freaking control? How's that? Planet? Also, these controllers are so similar to each other. Why does it make a difference? How's that? Paul Goaling? Four hundred forty votes? Four hundred forty votes. That's how many people's winning are freakinging active? You have twelve hundred people watch. That's quite good if you're live right now watching. This is the first time we're doing a live in person. I kind of like it's so many, I know we should we talk about it. Let's do let's do the Paul. What were we looking at here? Oh yeah, oh, let's go Okay. For PS five owners, thirteen percent said they are interested in purchasing thirteen most of the market cap right there, that's their entire Budgetty said they're flat out not interested, and then the rest are either confused on what a queue is or they don't have a BS five its Hey, how many sales did the PlayStation five had a lot? Actually, like a deceiving amount for how little they were able to keep up with demand. They actually sold it thirty forty mil. That sounds about right, so ten percent of that they it's like five million frigging past pasques. God damnit, No, here's here's a lot. That's a lot for a console. First of all, I think that I think that it could be successful control. It could be successful only because of this walled garden that PlayStation created for themselves, where like, uh, you need to have their stuff in order to even use the technology at all. But the other factor that we don't know is the price. This thing is not going to be cheap. It should be cheap, but it won't. The market predicted is between two or three hundred. I'm impossible. I'm hoping it's impossible. It's an LCD screen. They should it should be two hundred. This thing's not gonna sell for less than three hundred. I think two ninety nine is the highest five sales from that's the highest they can get away with. But PlayStation will fris It's gonna be surprises, I think, yeah, uh, total pres five sales from April twenty eighth is thirty eight point four million. They're gonna make it. Oh, I was so close. If I had to guess, i'd say three fifty because they just get just gonna They're just gonna scutch you a little. Speaking at prices. I'm so happy I was right on the money with the ass it's gonna be. I message Bob right away and we will like, we'll both like I'm only assuming you had that face because I texted, but we will buy. Like. I was absolutely blown away when I heard that that was blown I was like, no way, you just used it. I did just use it. How is it? I have a video coming out right after this life, so you don't want to spoil and say if you like it? Really, I kind of just played Eldon Ring and Genshin on it and I had very little time with it because of Zelda. It's cool. I like it. I like it a lot. Are they sending you you guys are already have it. I have a video already. I thought you were a subscriber. Everything out of Happening birthday parties, out of every U A great time, I bet I stored on Twitter I out of every handheld console that I was have been sent, uh, that was the best one I bought steam Deck. I'm not counting that I would compare it to steam Deck. I think steam Deck just wins an accessibility and everything just working. Like I had Genshen working on the rug and I was like, this is sick. Steam Deck can't do this. I loved. I even have a clip of me going like, this is so cool and then I look back and then it crashes and then I couldn't get it to load back up again. I was like, this wouldn't happen on steam Deck. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, steam Deck wins with accessibility. I will say there is a lot of times where I try to play some steam Deck and it also doesn't work, or it also needs some like launcher or something. But it's a lot less frequent than it would happen on a Windows device. But of all of the Windows handhelds, this is definitely the best one I've ever used. Yeah, no, it's good. I do like it. I like it a lot, and I will opt to pick that up over the steam Deck sometimes. And that's another reason why I think PlayStation just trying to get into the handheld market right now. It's too hot. It's it's already flourishing and getting crazy and wild and wacky out there. I think that they have the name power to surpass all of the other people who have been trying to make handhelds. You would think that, but then the Vita failed. Yeah, the Vita failed because it had no games. It had JRP and they would have to stop making games, developing games full the Vida, and that's going to take resources away from the PlayStation five, which, let's be real, hasn't exactly been the best generation. We've had a lot of great games, but we could have more. I expected a little more more. Starting, you want to split the studios to a handheld. They have so many studios. They do Microsoft right now, we have so many studios and they have no We don't know what any of them are working. We've already seen Nintendo, who are kings of handheld go. It is time to merge this. Let's stop splitting our efforts and doing portable teams and home console teams. Let's merge it together. We're all working is one force to make the best thing possible. It just doesn't make sense for a PlayStation to say wagon and do the opposite and go backwards. So the best part of about the Vita, the reason I bought one back in FA twenty thirteen or whatever the hell I bought it was because of the indie games and a little bit because of the cross and you can watch Spider Man on it. No, they didn't advertise it as like an indie machine. They did a horrible ad campaign for it. They were based. They were like, this is the PlayStation four in your pocket, and it wasn't. So I think that there's plenty of room for a device that will just let you pick up your low powered games but in your pocket. Yeah, unless you comply it from A and the or like one hundred bucks. Probably I've been saying this. I think Nintendo should make a handheld that's like a hundred bucks that could play like you know, like only the Nintendo Switch online like S ANDDS games or really low powered indie stuff or like a like almost like a class just call it the classic Nintendo Classic and yeah, or well I'm yes, but I'm thinking more like like playing Celeste. But why would they do like that, because then that that's someone they're convincing someone pussibly who doesn't have a switch to invest in this other thing instead. That doesn't net them much profit off the they buy like a two DS type of thing, but the two DS could at least play everything. True, I get why some of these things would be really cool to have, but I also get why they don't make sense to make. Well. Remember at the time you had a GameCube, and then you had a GAMEBOYD fans and the GAMEBOYD fans a little tiny guy, a little thing that could play all of the all of the like low powered two D stuff, and then you had GameCube, which is all graphically intensive really, but that's what the switch but strive to much. Also, yes, I feel like that. But now we're in a time where the switch is not powerful enough and the next switch to agree with more powerful, probably more expensive. Agree So there's room in the market. There's room in the market for a cheaper thing. Because we see a lot of people buying all of these Chinese devices. I don't think Nintendo would want them money to go anywhere other than on the thing they're doing. Except they've always had two. They've always had two, yeah, until now, because they wanted to get away with having two, they wanted to merge it yet. But also, but this is a when I'm shut up, my little my little pie in the sky idea that Nintendo will never for. It's a cute idea. Is it would have to be linked with Tucket into bed Give the Kiss. It would have to be linked with Nintendo Switch online, so that you're all of your stuff transfers over. Yes, ends, That's why it's not like their money is being separated as you buy the game and you get it on everything, but it's separated from hardware sales. It's separated from hardware sales. If it's a cheaper thing that someone's gone. Do you think that they make profit every time they sell a hardware They're like the only company I know. But if they're making a cheaper buy in, people are going to buy that and be content and then not gonna get the switch as well. No, because then you can't play Zelda on it. But then why would you need both? You don't need both. If you have a switch, you have the cheaper thing. Why why is a PlayStation Q exists? Going full circle? PlayStation QUE exists to give people another way of playing their games they already have and stream them from their play Yeah, yeah, Nintendo should do that, but it's one hundred dollars and you can play the games on it. They're never gonna do that and stream to it. No, but then you don't have your whole library like you would on the queue. You have a lot of your library because are playing on Nintendo, so you have a low powered gap. Product is redundant. Yes, so it's a cheaper buy in for people that can't afford to switch. People aren't gonna get you can't play the big Triple A stuff, right, so you would get a switch and you wouldn't need the cheaper thing. No you Yes, you don't need the cheaper thing if you already have the switch, because it's the more expressive thing. So people that wanted to play the thing are gonna have to get a switch, which benefits Nintendo rather than giving them an earlier buy in where they can't then buy Nintendo's other games. Yeah, you're you're explaining the argument why the PlayStation Q is stupid. No I'm not. Yeah, no, no matter, because you need the Q. You need the PlayStation first and foremost even get the QUE. You don't need a switch to get the cheaper thing. No, but you don't all it depends on the types of games you want to play. Yes, I agree with that. I want to do that. People are gonna want to play Zelda. Yeah, like people aren't gonna want to play Celeste off a cheaper hunter. Why the game Boy advance exist? So this is what I was trying to say before, because I had exclusives, but not even that. Okay, I feel like back then you can play the exclusives on both. I feel like back then there was too much on the cheaper hypothetical thing that like, back then they were trying to figure it out. That's where I feel like there's a difference, Like now everyone's doing three D games, INDI's doing two D stuff, but I feel like now there's not enough innovation for people to be like handheld is two D. Someone in chat said, you're talking about the switch light by the way, I said that before too. Yeah. I feel like because it's like, oh, the Superintendo and six to four GameCube. Now we're going to focus on three D, but people still want two D because they want Superintendo. They're like, oh, we'll split it up because they were trying to figure it out, but now they know so what's the point of splitting it up. I think there's such a big market with all of these handhelds that we're seeing hitting the market. We see a lot of these Chinese companies making like fifty. I don't think Nintendo has to make an idea of them. I don't see a point in Nintendo making it. I know they won't, but I think that there's a lot of people that want something like that. Well, let's why, I argue when it's never gonna happen. Well, it's just something I want. I want it for you. I don't think it happened. Why do you want it if you already have a switch and a million? Because it's cool to have a little guy. I have so many little guys. You just want a little an official? Do you want a little guy that has a Nintendo on it? Yes? Why don't you got a game? Why don't you got a GBA? Then and put one of the Chinese things in it or one Nintendo games on it? Do what that guy doesn't take up? They always come with like a hundred of them, like marrying five. Do you think that that guy does takes like a game Boy color and puts a DS in it and it's got a high sound yeah or whatever on Instagram. Yeah, that's that's that's crazy. I don't know. I don't see a point here. I just I just see that as like a nostalgia factor. It's not It's not an innovative thing for Nintendo to be like, oh yeah, this makes sense. It's just a more portable version of something that exists already that plays as good of games that it could play. Can I ask you a question, what do you think of Dolphin not getting the approval for Oh? Yeah, that's a whole another on the topic. Can I say one last thing before we moved to it. I don't disagree that the que is silly, but I don't think doing a full thing is worth it. So I'm just happy with getting something. And if we didn't get it, we wouldn't even be talking about this anyway, because nothing else was ever going to happen. So I'm thinking a little silly because they just took a dual sense control or and cut it enough, like a little silly, close the gap on the grips with some room to breathe, not try at all. Well, it's supposed to be cheap, that's why it's only two hundred dollars. We don't know. Now. Dolphin deleted from steamies. Yeah, yeah, that's a huge deal. It was a big deal that Dolphin was even on Steam, and I think we talked about it on this podcast when it was on Steam, and we talked about how it had no Nintendo assets on the Steam Store page or anything, so they were trying to skirt around copyright and whatever. Um. But they got a season assist from Nintendo and they got taken down off Steam. Now I'm surprised they even thought that wouldn't happen. I don't know if that's a weird way of looking from the outside in, but when I heard it was happening, I was like, all steams allowing that? Yeah. So that's the thing is that it was a big deal that Steam was allowing it. But in hindsight, Steam kind of just allows everything. Yeah. I mean, didn't Steam release a trailer for the Steam Deck on their official channel that had the Nintendo emulated on the Steam Deck? Yeah, and then they immediately took it down. But that's the thing is that Steam or Valve seems to quietly support emulation without like blatantly supporting it. Yeah, you can tell that, Like developers at Valve and stuff are they got freaking MBU deck on their steam decks. They're using Uzue like we saw in that trailer. So them allowing Dolphin on steams seemed like a win. It was like, all Valve is you know on our side, this is kind of crazy. Well, I think they still says that they are. Well, so it's it's rumored that Valve contacted Nintendo and said is this okay? Oh, and that don't do that. That's what I'm saying permissions exactly. I say it's a rumor there was and they're not going to say yes, that only going to say no or ignore you. There was an ex Dolphin like employee or somebody who was like he was the ex treasurer of like the foundation, which means he like handled the money for Dolphin, which sounds really weird that they even had money, had sweet Dolphin money. So um. He said that from his understanding is Valve contacted Nintendo and asked if it's okay? That seems really bizarre and that is a big loss. That like is a big blendish on what I think Valve is to emulation. But yeah, and they obviously said no, take that down, and then they had to take it down. And then Kataku asked Nintendo for a statement, and Nintendo usually just doesn't respond, but they were like, no, this is a we took it down because by by now they said they said that they said those times. The direct wording is crazy. It's specifically like they think that this is bad for innovation. Yeah, this stifles innovation. Emulation and stuff like this stifles innovation and we want to preserve our intellectual property or whatever. Yeah, the stifling innovation thing was the big thing that everybody was running away with because that seems pretty ridiculous because these are games, this is GameCube, and I mean there's some weird is that point that people are spending too much time playing older games and not enough time playing newer experiences. Yes, I don't know. I don't know what their point is because I think that's kind of a manator that they've leaned into recently with the whole not really doing virtual console and pushing newer releases. I mean they do. I mean Intenno, starch Online, it's pretty robust. Now. I think I think they got really soured on Weiu that everyone just had it for old stuff, and they were like, no, we're making good stuff. Though. I think that you really get sad with them. That's why I really loves Nintendo's for all their legacy content, right, but that's such a big But Nintendo, the whole thing is innovation. It always has been. They always want to move forward. I think they're having a I think they're having a hard time. I think there's like a hubrist that that they can't like go of where they're like they can't. I don't know. I'm sure they appreciate you'll playing the old game, but they're seemingly having a hard time appreciating it because they're like, yeah, the new stuff though, Like stop wanting to buy the old stuff and buy our new stuff. The problem with Nintendo is that they're really good with It's crazy because the new stuff stulls so much better than everyone else's. They're really good at releasing a game that is timeless. You know that they innovate in some weird, wacky way that nobody else has done. They're so forward thinking and the Kingdom maybe sure, and you go back and you play it ten years later and it feels great. It feels in sometimes like Metroid Prime feels like a modern game that was wild playing that again because it felt so good still, and they are like, no, you can't do that. We're not gonna What are the GameCube games we have? We have Metroid Prime, we have Mario Sunshine. Sometimes maybe maybe you're lucky enough on your switch. That's it. That's all. That's two GameCube games on the entire I know well that you can care about, right, I feel like it's yeah, yeah, I guess you chat so they can't be it. So they dmcaid dolphin because they want to hold off on anybody playing GameCube games. We need a tunnel of darkness. Yeah, we need a lot of GameCube games. There's a lot that are locked away forever. Is one of those Kobe remakes not from GameCube. It was like seventeen of them chat chat. Speaking of chat, we did get a super chat. I just want to point out what was it was. I took a picture because it was going to disappear. It is from Nathan Copeley and he asked he went back to PlayStation QUE stuff. Have they said anything about PlayStation Q specs? How do you guys think it could affect modding scene with other devices like three DS slash Vida. So it only all we know is it's Wi Fi only and has a ten ADP sixty frames per second screen, and it's LED or LCD LCD and it's Panasonic Q. That's that's all we know. I don't think it will be modible at all, uh for for the near future. It'll be a long time until it's modible at all. Uh. Alex and Chat said he appreciated my those times over now reference that everyone in the room missed. No, I heard, I remember, but no one said anything. You want me to point you want me to? Yeah, yeah, you've done though. Those times are over. You say that a lot. Yeah, I know that was who We've said that, me and Motor. No, it was someone from the Nintendo. It was a quote from an earlier episode. Yeah, it was a kid and Crystal, wasn't it? Yeah? But did they wasn't the Pokemon thing? Those times are over now. That's all I remember is someone saying remember over now. I don't remember where it came from. I think you were right. I think it was King Christa. I just don't remember. Who's actually sick. Yeah, it's a great platform. It's actually it's a very similar to Ratchet and Clank and stuff like that, and they made like four of them. Is that only on GameCube? Yeah, it was on gamecubet and PlayStation two at the time. It might have Fixbox too, probably. Um. Anyway, I was gonna say, well live, we're trying something new. We didn't really talk about it. Uh, there's something that I mentioned early on. I was like, wouldn't it be cool if one day we could do a live I don't know if we'll do it. We'll talk about it after this and see. Um. But also you guys let us know how you liked it. Um. I think a big reason why we wanted to try it is because when we record the episodes and then they come out, they're a little delayed, so they're not always super topical. But if we can do some live they we kind of can't get any more topical than this baby. And what did we choose to talk about on our first topical episode? Something that happened a week ago. Yeah, but it's still the most relevant. And though no because we would have recorded on the weekend and it would have came out today, stuff happened pretty recently. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, that hasn't been that much in this week anyway. But in future weeks there might be something that happens on that they could something that could happen. The Queen could die again, drink this live and then we could talk about the second time, and then we could talk about that live. But it could be one of them like hot breaking situations. Well not hot um. I mean there's some future news. They're gonna rumors future that's a great thing about that book. No, but w w DC's on Monday, and this the speculation is the new mixed reality headset from happens. Oh yeah really, Oh yeah, see him Punks coming back on the seventeenth. Oh. They announced it last night on on Dynamite on the new show Collision on Saturdays. I'm interested in Chicago show. No, yeah, I don't think they even had to reveal that he was coming. As soon as they said the first show was in Chicago. The crowd, the crowd popped just hearing it was in Chicago. I think the reason why they did that is because today a lot of gameplay is starting to leak for the aw Fight Forever game and everyone I'm watching, I watched a lot in the drive up here, they're like, yeah, here's the character screen. Sorry, I had to blur somehow. I'm not allowed to show you these characters yet. And it's because punks still in the game. So if the game's going out, they probably wanted to get ahead of any of the leaks. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I see it too. It's okay, I figured it. I got it. Don't worry. We're good. Are we doing? Are we good? Yeah? Is that a live connection issue or yeah, it's just a little jittery, but I'm fixing it. So like, should we wait? No, we should be fine. No, I don't want to stop wrestling tool. We need to keep I'm excited for the Apples Mixed reality head said, it's probably gonna be like four grand, But I want to know what the hell they're cooking up by mixed reality. Is that like the augmented reality what you put on glasses and you see stuff in the real world. So it's probably some sort of VR AR hybrid. So yeah, okay, it's gonna be a weird Apple thing. The glasses I have at AAR or they're like floating in this guy. Remember that this is like seventeen years ago when Xbox showed the table in a presentation and they were playing Minecraft and it like came up on that. Whatever happened to that? What was that called surface something? I don't know, something connect Xbox that was cool, It was cool cool. Then gave up on it, Yeah they did. They scrapped it. Cool cool. That was one of the coolest things they've done in a long time. I know it never happened. We good now? Someone in chat said, we good now? But looking, you know what, I jinxed it by talking about five. That's all your fault. Do you want to talk about Zelda and hope that they can hear us? Sure? How much more of you played? Nothing? I kind of stopped, like I'm getting the feeling that you're done kind of. I mean, I'm gonna dabble it like in and out a little bit. But that's the type of game that I feel like it is you kind of just gotta pick it up and just mindlessly do some shit. Would you consider just be lining the story? Um? The problem is there's just a lot of things that constantly get in your way when you have like a goal. Because I am trying to be line the story, I'm trying to just do all the U. I'm trying to be line it to all of those and you know, on the way there's this guy needs help. Guys sign up, but sometimes you do like like so that that's the fun. I'm just saying, if you're trying to be line it, but like I and I do like getting the car rock seeds and stuff, but like some like I. All right, So I started off in the in the north. Uh. I started off in the northwest. I did that one. Then it said go south, so I went seed Garden City. No, north west was the fly northwest right, So I did that one and then it's a ghost south and I was just mashing. So I don't really know exactly what it said. But I went south. Then it was too hot and everything was one shotting me. So I it actually doesn't say what it go after that. I don't know where you go south from. Maybe like an MPC set it no one of the main people. So the south was in red. Remember the last time you told me it just mashing? It was, yeah, it's a south. So I went south. I went all way and it was everything was one shotting me. There was this big sand worm thing that just would not leave me alone. And I went up to where like the temple thing is, and then it was too hot and I got annoyed. So I was like, all right, I'll go east, and I went northeast, and that's the Goron city. That's hot too. That's hotter, and you can't even step foot in there without bursting into flames. So now I'm going to the fourth one. Did you not learn how to do that in the first game? No? I eat the food and then I have to get a suit that's in the Goron thing. But it's seven hundred dollars and I don't want to do the glitch. That's fair. I wouldn't want to either, So I'm just gonna go. Would you ever take any help from me? Sure? Okay, I thought you were gonna give me. I can There's there's actually a mask you can get um and I can tell you where to get it, and it has the same effect of that suit and it's just in a chest, so it's free. All right, where's that? I'll show you later? Okay, I don't know exactly on the map. I'm just gonna do the Zora one because that's right. I was gonna say it's interesting. I don't, I don't. I didn't pick up on someone saying south because if you actually look at the quest, it doesn't tell you where to go next. And I did go to Zora next because all the towns is complete opposite, I know, but all the towns are down there, so I wanted to hit But how do you know if there's if there's no map from the first game. Oh, oh, the first of course, but the first game, baby, of course. Yeah, all the towns are in that one. I don't know why. This is my one complaint with the game. All the towns in the game are in the lower right hand corner. That's four want the towns. Hannah learned that the map is based off of Kyoto. That's cute. That might be why I was like towns in that area. Was really hoping and really excited to find a new town and a new group of people to meet. Never happened. What do you mean, like it's all the same as Breath of the Wild. It's all the same towns. Yeah, that's annoying. It's all the same time. I mean when the game first came out, I was saying, it's unrecognizable from Breath of the Wild it is, and just the towns because I didn't play them as Breadth of the Wild. No, I would say it is unrecognizable. It's just the towns are all the same, but they've changed them up. I find it interesting a lot more lively, for sure. Yes, I've played one hundred and thirty hours now, and I realized the other day I've done very little on the actual land of Hirall. I've done so much sky and well that's underground. That's the fun difference, I know. Yeah, and then obviously the main stuff I've all done wherever the main stuff has been. But as far as exploration, I've explored the uppies and the Downies way more than the Middle East, the Middle East, the Middle East, So I've been doing a lot of Middle Ease. Over the last couple of nights, I've had a lot of fun. I've played like twenty hours, so like that's pretty long. It's just you know, like, would you if this was like Breath of the Wild, would you consider just like beating the game. If this was Breath of the Wild, that would have stopped. Like that's what I did. I played like twenty hours. No, but I mean, like you know how you. I do want to do that. Yeah, I want to do one more U domain or whatever, and then maybe I'll go right to the ND. Okay, yeah, skirting around something because of a spoiler. So the game, I've given up on spoilers because they're all over Twitter and everything, and I can't I give up on spoilers. And Breath of the Wild, well, I meant more for chat, no, I understand. So if anyone in chat doesn't want to hear what I'm about to say, don't listen for the next ten seconds. Breath it's freaking for the next ware. We not like we are, but it's like for some reason jittering now. I don't know why are we not? Can you get a one in chat? If you guys can hear us in a two in chat? If you can't, And if I don't see twos, it's because you can't hear us. If you see twos, that'd be interesting. That would be confusing. If I hit stop, will it just totally? Yeah? Not on YouTube? I don't know. You can hit stop and start again on YouTube as long as she doesn't hit stop on the livestream. Okay, all right, sounds like you can't do that either, I'm getting I'm getting a lot of ones are like flooding in chat so they can hear us. Everyone said it was fine one but it's a bit choppy. All right, just leave it. We're almost done anyway, it's a little choppy at the end. It's a little chopy at the end. We're learning what what what about? It has not worked? No, it was fine for the whole hour and then buffer are you are you ethaneted or your Wi Fi? M that's probably just buffering yep. So people are saying they had to reload, maybe tray refreshing the page. So what what were we talking about? The audio is fine? Everyone spoil the game. Spoil the game forever, Okay, if you're somehow we would be really annoying for people if we cut out while I say, and then it cuts back in right as I say the spoiler. So maybe I just won't because we're having too many tell me tell me in the bonus. I'll tell you the bonus. Oh, in the bonus. And speaking of the bonus, we're doing a live hopefully bonus right now after this, So if you're still listening and watching this, go sign up to the bonus Patreon Real Quickly bonus Patreon five dollars. We'll get you access to over fifty episodes, including the live we're about to do. We appreciate all of you guys. We actually had a lot more to talk about that. I guess we'll filter into the bonus or are we asking questions? Both? Okay? Well, we also have no topic for the next that was so true. We have to do so true. Sorry. In the bonus episode, we're gonna be asking patreons for questions. All patreons able to ask questions. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed it. I feel like did we talk about everything? Though? That was all the main stuff we want to talk about, But there's a lot more that's okay, that's in this doctor. Do you feel like we really wrapped up the que talk. I think we did. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's now Are you gonna get much? Oh? Absolutely only because of a video Like I would never buy that thing otherwise I'm gonna get it. And if I don't like the screen, I'm not going to use it. The LCD I'm really worried about. I think it'll be fine, but I'm worried about the price. I'm worried about the price, O King, because it's an accessory that's gonna be a lot of one. Speak it to my groin, al right, everyone screaming into my booch, alright, everybody. I love you guys so much, like coming. I subscribe. If you on YouTube five stars, if you're on wherever, wherever I got Bye.
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