35 Years of Bart Simpson and Beyond | Nancy Cartwright (The Simpsons)

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with
<v Speaker 4>Jim Cummings. I am producer Chris, joined by the legend himself,
<v Speaker 4>mister Jim Cummings. How you doing today, sir?
<v Speaker 1>Another day in paradise? And boy, are you guys in
<v Speaker 1>the right place today?
<v Speaker 4>Yes you are, because we have none under their Nancy
<v Speaker 4>Cartwright joining us today. And I want to read this
<v Speaker 4>description because I love this description and I didn't memorize it,
<v Speaker 4>but I love this description of you. Nazi Kurtwright has
<v Speaker 4>often been arrested for truancy and vandalism, yet maintains a
<v Speaker 4>spotless criminal record. She has repeated the fourth grade dozens
<v Speaker 4>of times in spite of earning her college degree, and finally,
<v Speaker 4>despite being a grown woman, she has given voice to
<v Speaker 4>a certain spike. You had a ten year old boy
<v Speaker 4>for thirty six plus years, and how, you may ask,
<v Speaker 4>has she managed to live this double life? Let's find
<v Speaker 4>out today's episode.
<v Speaker 1>Ye, thank you so much.
<v Speaker 5>I'm so glad to be here. I'm very touched.
<v Speaker 3>And you have quite a following so far, so good.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, very well done. Congrats.
<v Speaker 1>Well you're gonna double it. So this is great, this
<v Speaker 1>is working out. It's good to see. But it's been
<v Speaker 1>a while. We haven't seen each other in a few years.
<v Speaker 5>You know. It's so interesting because I was reviewing the
<v Speaker 5>stuff that we did together, and I did find that
<v Speaker 5>our casting is very different. We did go true but
<v Speaker 5>you were you were the you know, you were pistol. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I mean yeah, that guy was and I was a
<v Speaker 5>little pistol. Very different. Yeah, and that's mostly but I
<v Speaker 5>don't usually play the antagonist, and you are very strong
<v Speaker 5>in that area with the stuff that you've done. You know,
<v Speaker 5>your voice, your pipes are just it lends itself to
<v Speaker 5>kind of like that gravelly and kind of right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would think, yeah, except for Pooh, he's kind
<v Speaker 1>of the other end. But that's easy when you can
<v Speaker 1>do an opposite, you know what I mean, it just
<v Speaker 1>seems to be easier.
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's quite a range, I mean, that's.
<v Speaker 1>What I meant to say.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm no, that's so true. I mean your range
<v Speaker 5>is like, it's incredible, and we're different that way. But
<v Speaker 5>we did we did that. We did too Innsylvania. We
<v Speaker 5>did a little bit of Animaniacs, but I don't know
<v Speaker 5>that we ever played together. We were on the same show,
<v Speaker 5>but your characters, I did Little Mindy and.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, except for goof Troop, you know, Pete, Pete Pistol. Right,
<v Speaker 1>it was so damn cute and I liked it was
<v Speaker 1>one and I couldn't think of the name of the show,
<v Speaker 1>but it was one where Pete was reading the newspaper
<v Speaker 1>and Pistol wanted to do some outlandish things. Daddy, can
<v Speaker 1>I do this and do that? And I'm gonna go
<v Speaker 1>out there and break up a glass bottle and juggle
<v Speaker 1>it and you know, and just do all this stuff
<v Speaker 1>and that's good. Honey, daddy's busy, you know. I just
<v Speaker 1>and your delivery was just like okay, thanks, I gotta go.
<v Speaker 1>You were you were like boom, like this little ball
<v Speaker 1>of fire. It was incredible.
<v Speaker 5>But that was you know, looking back, that was in
<v Speaker 5>the nineties. I think that we did that and yeah,
<v Speaker 5>that cast was that cast was phenomenal because that that
<v Speaker 5>was you and meet Bill Farmer obviously, Dana Hill, April Winchel. Yeah, Corey,
<v Speaker 5>I think that yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it was a phenomenon.
<v Speaker 5>And Robby Paulson, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Frank Welker when he
<v Speaker 5>was still doing stuff dynamically you know, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he's like a one man band exactly what
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Yeah, it's crazy. It is so crazy, and
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I can remember I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>you ever had this and because I've told people like, well,
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to do? Well, I want to
<v Speaker 1>be like melt blank yeah okay, but what are you
<v Speaker 1>going to do for a living? But what are you
<v Speaker 1>going to how are you going to eat? Though? See
<v Speaker 1>that's did you ever have that discussion with your family
<v Speaker 1>or were they like, uh, let's see, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>school teaching would be nice.
<v Speaker 5>You know what. I kind of skirted around. I didn't
<v Speaker 5>really approach my folks about it.
<v Speaker 3>I just I had worked at.
<v Speaker 5>W Yeah, probably probably no. I started. I worked at
<v Speaker 5>a radio station and filled in for people that went
<v Speaker 5>on vacation. But I had a penchant for or doing
<v Speaker 5>commercials and I could do stuff, and so they created
<v Speaker 5>a promotional gimmick for the radio station. Her name was
<v Speaker 5>Lily Pad, and it was with sound effects, and at
<v Speaker 5>that time they were using these what do they call
<v Speaker 5>this cassette, these big cassettes that.
<v Speaker 1>They were in for commercials and like eight tracks.
<v Speaker 5>Eight tracks exactly, So they had like the sound effect
<v Speaker 5>of somebody diving in a swimming pool and everybody get
<v Speaker 5>out of the pool. And it was like he was
<v Speaker 5>an ancestor or a precursor to Bart Simpson, sort of similar.
<v Speaker 5>Her name was Lily Pad, and my boss knew that
<v Speaker 5>I did that. And I'd gotten a scholarship to go
<v Speaker 5>to Ohio University because I had done so well in
<v Speaker 5>high school competing on the speech team and I did
<v Speaker 5>individual shock hard.
<v Speaker 1>To believe, but okay, this.
<v Speaker 5>Was my training ground. It was like I could you
<v Speaker 5>can't make any mistakes. I mean, you could get trophies,
<v Speaker 5>first place, blue ribbons, and that was awesome, But I
<v Speaker 5>was bringing home some hardware.
<v Speaker 4>You know what.
<v Speaker 1>My brother knows that about you. Yeah, that's that's that's
<v Speaker 1>happened to me too. It was the same thing.
<v Speaker 5>It really.
<v Speaker 1>They went to all the speech tournaments and everything.
<v Speaker 3>You're kidding, Yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>All over all over Ohio.
<v Speaker 5>And I was in Youngstown, Green Youngstown.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was in Youngstown. You were down to Dayton.
<v Speaker 5>Over Yeah, it was there, Ohio. You was Athens and
<v Speaker 5>we were highly competitive. Now this was for me. I
<v Speaker 5>graduated high school in seventy six.
<v Speaker 1>When did you, well, seventy so we never ran into
<v Speaker 1>each other.
<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, okay.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah I went all around. They put me in
<v Speaker 1>the paper all the time.
<v Speaker 5>And dude, we got that. I didn't know that.
<v Speaker 1>And I bet you you won all the time.
<v Speaker 5>All the time, pretty well, not all the time, but
<v Speaker 5>I had a yeah, I had a modest collection of
<v Speaker 5>like nice first place.
<v Speaker 1>Than me. Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>It was really fun and that was really it. And meanwhile,
<v Speaker 5>some woman came in from Warner Brothers, who, to both
<v Speaker 5>you and me, meant mel blank oh right, And I'm
<v Speaker 5>like wow, But she was promoting music for Warner Brothers.
<v Speaker 5>And I shook her hand and she said, you know,
<v Speaker 5>put together a tape of voices that you do on
<v Speaker 5>these competitions and let me. I don't know, it's not
<v Speaker 5>my industry. I'm music, but let me see what I
<v Speaker 5>can do for you. And we shook hands and I
<v Speaker 5>took her card. And after work, I'd stay late and
<v Speaker 5>i'd go up there and an engineer would record me
<v Speaker 5>and I'd take these speeches. Now, Jim, Okay, my demo,
<v Speaker 5>my first demo was about fourteen minutes long.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 5>And it was long, you know, descriptions and some dialogue
<v Speaker 5>and stuff. But sometimes I feel like it's good. There's
<v Speaker 5>an advantage to not knowing, because.
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, boy, I had no idea what I was doing.
<v Speaker 1>But but fourteen minutes, see, that's that's great because it
<v Speaker 1>just shows like, yeah, well there was no format. Really,
<v Speaker 1>there's no ABC, so it's not like you know, but
<v Speaker 1>I remember doing that mine and mine was like eight
<v Speaker 1>minutes and the guy doing the thing goes, no one's
<v Speaker 1>going to hear that these last four or five wow,
<v Speaker 1>and that's really yeah. But I sent it around and
<v Speaker 1>it seemed to work. I edit it down to like
<v Speaker 1>three minutes, and I don't even think does anybody even
<v Speaker 1>do that anymore?
<v Speaker 5>I don't even know, don't I don't know either. It's
<v Speaker 5>it's such an evolved industry.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but she was good to.
<v Speaker 5>Her word and she sent it around and I got
<v Speaker 5>a letter back from her and ripped that thing open
<v Speaker 5>and I couldn't believe it. And there was Film Filmation Studios,
<v Speaker 5>Wally Burr, sure, yes, yes, such of names. Disney I
<v Speaker 5>think was on there. And then the last name was
<v Speaker 5>DAWs Butler and it said that he did the voice
<v Speaker 5>of Believe it or Not, road Runner and Wiley Coyote.
<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, wait, what because that yeah, exactly exactly.
<v Speaker 5>But his phone number, it was the only one with
<v Speaker 5>a name and a phone number. It wasn't a company.
<v Speaker 1>Right, okay, yeah, yeah, an actual person person and what
<v Speaker 1>And he was.
<v Speaker 5>Elroy Jets and Babble, Luis, Peter Pottamus Pick, Dixie of
<v Speaker 5>Pixie and Dixie the Raising brandson. Yeah, did did all
<v Speaker 5>that stuff. And yeah, so I went down to the
<v Speaker 5>basement and got on the extension phone they used to
<v Speaker 5>call him, and yes, quietly called him up and left
<v Speaker 5>a message. Long story short, Now we're in touch. And
<v Speaker 5>he sent me scripts through the mail and I met
<v Speaker 5>ohio U my first year on the speech team, and
<v Speaker 5>occasionally a script would have a male key character and
<v Speaker 5>a female character. So I would get somebody else from
<v Speaker 5>the speech team to join me and we would record
<v Speaker 5>us to other and send it back and he would
<v Speaker 5>listen and critique it, and it was always positive, and
<v Speaker 5>there was nothing and like, well, that was interesting. Now
<v Speaker 5>let's see what you do with this one. She's an alien.
<v Speaker 5>Let's see how you play this.
<v Speaker 1>And just like just adorable, no kidding, wow that that
<v Speaker 1>was like a real masterclass.
<v Speaker 5>It was, And so I moved. I told them, I said,
<v Speaker 5>I talked to my counselor at Ou and he said,
<v Speaker 5>you know, do another year here and get your basics done.
<v Speaker 5>Your rudimentary class is done, and then when you transfer,
<v Speaker 5>you'll do much better there. And I said, Okay, I
<v Speaker 5>probably should have listened, because I didn't. I took a
<v Speaker 5>lot of fun classes, and I had a ball and
<v Speaker 5>competed on the speech team.
<v Speaker 1>Did I did, Okay, make pottery. I'll tell you it's true.
<v Speaker 1>The best bases in the business.
<v Speaker 5>One class I took was a phonetics class. I had
<v Speaker 5>no idea how this would help me. But later and
<v Speaker 5>I'm flashing way forward, this is the way forward, like
<v Speaker 5>flipping into an episode of Thesens where Bart gets adopt
<v Speaker 5>he goes over as a foreign exchange student to France. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>he and he ends up getting kidnapped by these two
<v Speaker 5>guys that live on a farm and they're they're growing wine.
<v Speaker 5>They're they're they're making wine, and they made Bart stay
<v Speaker 5>and live in the in the barn, and he's so like, oh,
<v Speaker 5>it's this is not what I wanted. And he escapes
<v Speaker 5>and he runs into downtown Paris and Jadam Jahdam and
<v Speaker 5>I had to do this whole speech in French, and
<v Speaker 5>so first of all, I'm like, how am I going
<v Speaker 5>to tell what I'm I have no idea what I'm
<v Speaker 5>saying here because I guess to say totally and he
<v Speaker 5>made me read it. But this is where phonetics. So
<v Speaker 5>I wrote it phonetically on top of the thing, and
<v Speaker 5>so I'm kind of double reading, like my left eye
<v Speaker 5>reading what I'm saying in English and my right eye
<v Speaker 5>reading phonetically, so it would come out alright, plus his plu.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's all I know jar Dom.
<v Speaker 5>That's all I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that came
<v Speaker 5>in handy oh god. Anyway, that was the transition for me.
<v Speaker 5>I just moved out to California, and yeah, he took
<v Speaker 5>me under his wing.
<v Speaker 1>And and and then you got an agent, did you?
<v Speaker 1>You made a big bodacious demo tape, got an agent?
<v Speaker 5>You know?
<v Speaker 1>Boom.
<v Speaker 5>He worked with me for a couple like about a
<v Speaker 5>year and a half and then yeah, and then I
<v Speaker 5>would I would catch the bus in Westwood, u c.
<v Speaker 1>L A.
<v Speaker 5>And go to his house and we'd work together. And
<v Speaker 5>he would play stuff from old radio serials that he
<v Speaker 5>was on, like the series Radio Hour and Whistler and
<v Speaker 5>he did the standard Freebrig show or something and yes,
<v Speaker 5>yes he and June Foray and.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Jude Forray and him that's.
<v Speaker 5>Right, and and I guess Mel was in there Mel
<v Speaker 5>blank yeah, yeah, and Stan obviously, And you know, he'd
<v Speaker 5>play these things and play commercials and I'd listen to
<v Speaker 5>him doing.
<v Speaker 3>Was it bosco tastes like chocolate?
<v Speaker 5>Just like chocolate, and He's and I'm going, I was
<v Speaker 5>just who is this guy? I had no idea of
<v Speaker 5>his history where he came from to get to the
<v Speaker 5>point where he is with me with Huckleberry Hound, you'll
<v Speaker 5>give beer a quick and all these names and these
<v Speaker 5>characters that we grew up with.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, I wonder. I don't think see. One
<v Speaker 1>nice thing that Disney did was they came up with
<v Speaker 1>the Disney Channel and Disney Plus and they're mining all
<v Speaker 1>the old shows. They're just playing them and playing them.
<v Speaker 1>Hannah Barber doesn't have that. I have a you know,
<v Speaker 1>a Hannah Barbara Plus.
<v Speaker 5>Was it brought out by Warner Brothers? Don't they own
<v Speaker 5>the library? And it's like, I'm not sure why they
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't make it available because have already Yeah, why not?
<v Speaker 4>As you're saying that, I'm trying to think of like
<v Speaker 4>which streaming service would have those? Yeah, Like it's not
<v Speaker 4>Paramount and.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's not. It's not Warner brother it's not Disney,
<v Speaker 1>not Warner brother it's not the two big Juggernauts.
<v Speaker 4>That's really curious.
<v Speaker 5>I think it's you guys. I think it's chi ching.
<v Speaker 5>I think they have to hire a whole They have
<v Speaker 5>to hire people to be able to put together and
<v Speaker 5>then the promotion for it. But you know, the actors
<v Speaker 5>that were a part of it, some of them. You know,
<v Speaker 5>it's like that's that's history. And I think people would
<v Speaker 5>be animation buffs would be interested in.
<v Speaker 1>God that you forget it. Yeah, I can remember all
<v Speaker 1>those those little cats phrases. It was crazy. It was
<v Speaker 1>like golden years for me.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, it really was all of.
<v Speaker 1>The you know, and and Hannah Barbara's limited animation. And
<v Speaker 1>I can remember as a child going thinking, wait a minute,
<v Speaker 1>you know, because always when you hear the bomb goes,
<v Speaker 1>you know, Yogi's his legs are churning away and he's
<v Speaker 1>not moving, and then all of a sudden he just vanishes.
<v Speaker 1>And then that was when I I first realized that
<v Speaker 1>there are different levels of animation. Okay, you know, and
<v Speaker 1>it was uh and it was limited. You know, they
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to draw as much. If if the whole
<v Speaker 1>top run, the body's going like this, not moving, and
<v Speaker 1>then you do the storm on the legs and then.
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, you know, it was a lot of action for
<v Speaker 3>no animation, exactly.
<v Speaker 5>And if you have, if you're fortunate enough to get
<v Speaker 5>an original and it's got in layered cells, you got
<v Speaker 5>your holding cells in the back background, and then they
<v Speaker 5>would just replace, like you said, like replace the feet,
<v Speaker 5>but those things are quite valuable.
<v Speaker 4>Do you have any of those old cells, because I
<v Speaker 4>know you collect, Yeah, animation cells. I do.
<v Speaker 5>I have a few of the classics like Hanna Barbar
<v Speaker 5>I'm and some Disney I've got. I've got a Pinocchio
<v Speaker 5>and I've got Mickey Mouse. I've got Mickey Mouse. And
<v Speaker 5>the way that I framed it, it's got I have
<v Speaker 5>two of them, one of them and they came together.
<v Speaker 5>One is just the blue outline before they even painted
<v Speaker 5>in it on the cell right right, it's like an
<v Speaker 5>anumatic type paper, and so then they put the film
<v Speaker 5>on top of it, so it looks like he's kind
<v Speaker 5>of outside of himself.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 5>I thought that was kind of cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, I remember at Hannah barbera way
<v Speaker 1>way back they were and I don't know why, but
<v Speaker 1>they were getting rid of I can't even say this now,
<v Speaker 1>but they were getting rid of these backgrounds and the cells.
<v Speaker 1>They were getting rid of an original like there's on them,
<v Speaker 1>there's and they're real thick. Yeah, but you know, like
<v Speaker 1>almost like walking walk walk, you know, like a thunder
<v Speaker 1>clap thing that they use, and they were throwing down
<v Speaker 1>down the hall and running and jumping on them and
<v Speaker 1>sliding and then they's a way right plasphemous and they
<v Speaker 1>and they and they said, I said, what are you
<v Speaker 1>guys doing? Well? No good anymore? And I thought that
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound right. How could they not be good anymore?
<v Speaker 1>And I wasn't they. I don't think anybody was collecting
<v Speaker 1>the way they do now.
<v Speaker 5>So true. But you know, when I was at Hanna Barbera,
<v Speaker 5>I had a bright idea not to do that. No,
<v Speaker 5>was to walk over to the other building where they
<v Speaker 5>did do the animation on the lot. And I ended
<v Speaker 5>up getting like it was the color.
<v Speaker 3>It was the I think it's just the color.
<v Speaker 5>It was a color frame that had the entire cast.
<v Speaker 5>And there's Gloria from Richie rich That was the first
<v Speaker 5>one that I did. There's Gloria and it's got these
<v Speaker 5>arrows with numbers to identify, like orange number ten, blue
<v Speaker 5>number three and I and I said, what could I have?
<v Speaker 5>Could I have it? Would you mind? And I can't know?
<v Speaker 5>Ahead take it? So they gave me this original thing,
<v Speaker 5>which is so cool. And I've got Genie, remember I
<v Speaker 5>dream a Genie the introd. So there's her and that
<v Speaker 5>was animated.
<v Speaker 1>And some how.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how I found this, but I got
<v Speaker 5>an original of that background by a guy named Seamus Colehane,
<v Speaker 5>and he's a well known background artist. So I've got that,
<v Speaker 5>and the way you described it was perfect. It's like,
<v Speaker 5>really it's like a eighth of an inch cardboard that
<v Speaker 5>they used to paint on it. And so that's a
<v Speaker 5>cool piece that I treasured.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, that's a pretty good fine that's
<v Speaker 1>a collector's piece.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And some of the early Simpsons from Tracy Omen
<v Speaker 5>when David Silverman and West Archer they hadn't quite figured out, well,
<v Speaker 5>the show wasn't successful. We were at a half hour
<v Speaker 5>and they the spikes on Bart's head. It's not standard.
<v Speaker 5>This was like pre.
<v Speaker 1>On model, I think, weren't they kind of floppy at one.
<v Speaker 5>Point absolutely it wavered because they realized in getting the
<v Speaker 5>animation back that it had to really they needed to
<v Speaker 5>standardize it and make it so that and also the
<v Speaker 5>layout of the house standardize that too, like do a
<v Speaker 5>blueprint that the living room's here, the dining rooms here,
<v Speaker 5>the stairs upstairs, because they said, what if this thing
<v Speaker 5>becomes a hood, we need to be consistent here. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>So they had to feed and we kind of led
<v Speaker 5>the way for the other the next level of animation
<v Speaker 5>that followed the Simpsons that was years later, you know,
<v Speaker 5>And that's that's a cool piece of history.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.
<v Speaker 4>And the Simpsons have been animated in like virtually every
<v Speaker 4>way at one point or another. Right, Like they've had
<v Speaker 4>three D, they've had yeah, all kinds of all kinds
<v Speaker 4>of different iterations of right. I mean, I'm even in
<v Speaker 4>my mind, I'm thinking about like a Universal Studios, Like
<v Speaker 4>the way they animated for that ride. Is that still there? Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it's still there? Yeah, still there.
<v Speaker 1>Wow.
<v Speaker 4>It's just crazy to think what a cultural impact that
<v Speaker 4>the Simpsons have had. Like it's been around longer than
<v Speaker 4>I have.
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's still going. Okay, it's okay, he's only eighteen.
<v Speaker 5>Why people write me and tell me that they have
<v Speaker 5>learned to speak English by by watching the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 1>Wow?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, people from around the world. Yeah, it's shocking.
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, the first phrase they learned was.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, thank you, Hello a minute, eat to my shorts,
<v Speaker 5>Thank you very much.
<v Speaker 1>We're having the fun. You know, Well, you never know
<v Speaker 1>who's listening, You never know who's out there. Right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's it's incredible. You must and I know you've you've
<v Speaker 1>done appearances, You've done this and that. Who was because
<v Speaker 1>every now and then you'll run into somebody. It's kind
<v Speaker 1>of a famous person that you've admired and seen and
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I really like dark Ring dark Ors.
<v Speaker 1>How you know, you must have tons of those like
<v Speaker 1>you fighting He run into Sophia Loren You know, I
<v Speaker 1>love bart you know.
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah. Jeff Goldbloom was one that just like ran
<v Speaker 5>into him at some I think it was a premiere
<v Speaker 5>one year. I think it was in the fall of
<v Speaker 5>one year, and he was at this party in Hollywood
<v Speaker 5>on Melrose and he was coming towards me and he
<v Speaker 5>had done he'd already done some of Jurassic Park, right,
<v Speaker 5>So he's walking towards me and I knew and he's
<v Speaker 5>like he looked at me and went oh, and he
<v Speaker 5>just he started to like do this like all the
<v Speaker 5>way down to the ground. I'm like, Jeff, oh my god,
<v Speaker 5>you're a goddess. I'm a fan of That was cool.
<v Speaker 1>That is very cool. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>We just had Frank Hellendo on the other day and
<v Speaker 4>he did the funniest Jeff Goldblum impression. Impersonation. Yeah, Oh,
<v Speaker 4>he's so talented and could just turn it on. And
<v Speaker 4>I know he seen anybody impersonate him before, Like yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like an obscure and you know it's
<v Speaker 4>not like a Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, like one of
<v Speaker 4>the common ones that everybody does. And the way he
<v Speaker 4>did it, it was just like you could see him
<v Speaker 4>like all of a sudden he was in the room.
<v Speaker 4>Is hilarious.
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's just like I meet these people. I recently
<v Speaker 5>went to a taping of the Voice and Michael Boublay
<v Speaker 5>is one of the judges on there, and he and
<v Speaker 5>I have been and he he we haven't seen each
<v Speaker 5>other in quite a while, and yeah, it was very
<v Speaker 5>surprising and their reactions, his reaction. And I met also
<v Speaker 5>with Snoop Dogg. He's one of the one of the
<v Speaker 5>judges also, And these guys practically they buckle their knees
<v Speaker 5>buckle when they and I'm like, yeah, dude, the flow.
<v Speaker 5>It's like mutual admiration kind of thing going on.
<v Speaker 1>It's great.
<v Speaker 5>It's really fun and sports some sports guys. Early on
<v Speaker 5>we had Jose Conseco and who else, Steve, you guys
<v Speaker 5>have had some incredible We have some of their guest stars.
<v Speaker 1>JK.
<v Speaker 5>Simmons, and some rappers and musicians, and most of the
<v Speaker 5>time though there's only a handful that we work with
<v Speaker 5>because I think past not the nineties. It was very
<v Speaker 5>hard to book these celebrities. We've had so many, but
<v Speaker 5>most of the time they're recorded separately. And a few
<v Speaker 5>times they called me in to read my lines because
<v Speaker 5>it was bart and like Jessica Lovejoy who was Meryl Streep,
<v Speaker 5>And that was quite a that was quite a reversal
<v Speaker 5>that I did not expect when I was like, my
<v Speaker 5>heart is like pounding, and I'm standing there waiting for
<v Speaker 5>this consummate artist that has gotten so many awards and
<v Speaker 5>her voices and you know, voiceover on cameras, like she
<v Speaker 5>has been able to change herself and become like with
<v Speaker 5>the flick of a switch, she's like somebody else right
<v Speaker 5>in front of you. But she has never at that time,
<v Speaker 5>she had never done any voiceover work. And here she's
<v Speaker 5>in the position playing opposite me, and the way they
<v Speaker 5>positioned us was her beside me, and the window of
<v Speaker 5>the engineers is in front of us, so we're both
<v Speaker 5>facing this way. But she's turning and talking to me
<v Speaker 5>like this, and I realized that, like, could you do
<v Speaker 5>us a favorite? Like yeah, so it's simple, simple kind
<v Speaker 5>of a thing. And so then we're talking to each
<v Speaker 5>other and she was just just so, She's like, I
<v Speaker 5>had no makeup on, she was so clean, and just
<v Speaker 5>can we do it again? Let's do it again, and
<v Speaker 5>I've got another idea. She had dozens of ideas for
<v Speaker 5>every take and like, Meryl Man, you're making me look bad,
<v Speaker 5>just again in another arena, just like the cont some professional.
<v Speaker 5>And at the end we're walking out, I'm thinking I'd
<v Speaker 5>like an autograph, but I don't know that I should ask. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>and I feel a tap on my shoulder and they
<v Speaker 5>turned in. Mirrol says, you know my kids are big.
<v Speaker 3>Fans of the.
<v Speaker 1>That's great. Well let me think, okay, yeah, I have
<v Speaker 1>an idea. Let's trade that's pretty good. Yeah, that's one
<v Speaker 1>for the wall.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>They got smart and they had the guest stars sign
<v Speaker 5>the cover of the script that they're on.
<v Speaker 1>Sure. Oh yeah yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So I've saved every single one of them, and
<v Speaker 5>I've got notes in them, and they're all kind of
<v Speaker 5>filed and maybe Smithsonian don't get it today. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure you've been to Disney Character Voices or
<v Speaker 1>one of their recording studios that they have over there,
<v Speaker 1>and they have those big bulletin boards. Well they're not
<v Speaker 1>what are they white boards? I guess anyway, you just
<v Speaker 1>and they have everybody right sign and you look these
<v Speaker 1>names and you're going, holy crme.
<v Speaker 5>Right, it's been there a long time too.
<v Speaker 1>There a long time too, is right? Yeah, I know,
<v Speaker 1>And it's and it's crazy, it's it's not the kind
<v Speaker 1>of thing because there's no way like for the Simpsons.
<v Speaker 1>Starting off on Tracy Oleman, you're thinking, well, in thirty
<v Speaker 1>nine years, I'll be doing a podcast about the fact
<v Speaker 1>that I've been doing this for thirty nine. I mean, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you can't.
<v Speaker 5>Nobody knew.
<v Speaker 1>You can't see it coming.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, at least that was my thought. I Mean, I
<v Speaker 5>knew it was the only primetime animated show, but that's
<v Speaker 5>all I knew. And yeah, but they I hear things
<v Speaker 5>or read things. Now I'm going like they had a
<v Speaker 5>little twinkle in their eye that this thing was going
<v Speaker 5>somewhere because there was also they were objectors to it,
<v Speaker 5>and that brings promotion to it and then more publicser
<v Speaker 5>will watch it. But we weren't even Fox wasn't even
<v Speaker 5>a network. It only reached I don't know, seventy percent
<v Speaker 5>of the market.
<v Speaker 1>So true, isn't it. That's true way back when.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my folks couldn't even see it in Ohio. It's
<v Speaker 5>like I'm telling them about it and I didn't even
<v Speaker 5>think it. I mean, it was like a little snippet.
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't even a show. I'm like, yeah, Tracy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
<v Speaker 5>I kept my mouth shut, and I'm so glad I did,
<v Speaker 5>because I mean to start complaining that early on Audiosmiths
<v Speaker 5>cart right exit stage left, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>because that would happen when people you have to you
<v Speaker 5>got to keep your manners in. And they were figuring
<v Speaker 5>it out, and here I am, little miss voiceover who'd
<v Speaker 5>been doing it for six seven years and felt like
<v Speaker 5>I was the only one that knew what was going
<v Speaker 5>on and they didn't know, and spending all day to do,
<v Speaker 5>you know, to do a two minute well it's two
<v Speaker 5>hours to do a two minute thing, and it was
<v Speaker 5>eight hours to do a twenty one minute show.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, these people have no idea what.
<v Speaker 1>They are doing and yeah, I just like let.
<v Speaker 5>Them ride it and just just yeah, it's not my
<v Speaker 5>I'm not it's not my show. I'm gonna work for
<v Speaker 5>hire sure, and let them wear their hats. And they
<v Speaker 5>they they did it. Man, they figured it out.
<v Speaker 1>That's incredible.
<v Speaker 4>What were the objections to the show you mentioned people were.
<v Speaker 5>Object Oh, mostly it was Bart they made Bart was
<v Speaker 5>was the lead at the very beginning. But there's only
<v Speaker 5>so far you can take a ten year old boy
<v Speaker 5>that's in elementary school. Homer had so much more range,
<v Speaker 5>I mean from from extreme exhilaration to major depression and
<v Speaker 5>like kind of psychotic jumping up and down, and in
<v Speaker 5>terms emotionally that there was more I think humor in that.
<v Speaker 5>And Bart was very very much antagonistic and he and
<v Speaker 5>Lisa would go at it. Tracy Omens show. It was
<v Speaker 5>mostly them going at each other, but on the half
<v Speaker 5>hour that's when it really they just you know, started
<v Speaker 5>taking more risks into developing him as a fully if
<v Speaker 5>you'll excuse an expression, but fleshed out character. You know,
<v Speaker 5>there was more of a there's a better arc where
<v Speaker 5>he could have some emotion. And this first episode of
<v Speaker 5>the second season where Bart gets an f that was.
<v Speaker 5>That was the first time he really got upset and cried,
<v Speaker 5>and he was so upset that he was going to
<v Speaker 5>flunk the fourth grade for like the second time. And
<v Speaker 5>it's like, missus Crapoppo wasn't happy about that either, but Bart,
<v Speaker 5>you know, he burst into tears and it's it's a
<v Speaker 5>pretty sensitive moment. And oh yeah, I was very happy
<v Speaker 5>about that that they were I'm going, wow, this show
<v Speaker 5>what they can do with animation, go into the future
<v Speaker 5>and go way back to Caveman or even a Zygote.
<v Speaker 5>It's like, wow, you can go anywhere with animation.
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about the zygot factor very crucial.
<v Speaker 4>I have a theory that shows like The Simpsons, you know,
<v Speaker 4>animated sitcoms like really pushed all other sitcoms like out
<v Speaker 4>of the market, Like you don't really get many sitcoms
<v Speaker 4>and I'm talking you know, filmed sitcoms anymore. And I
<v Speaker 4>think that space really was like filled by you know
<v Speaker 4>the Simpsons. I mean, obviously Simpsons was there. It was
<v Speaker 4>one of the you know, original ones. Oh but then
<v Speaker 4>you know the family guys, the Rick and Morty, American Dad,
<v Speaker 4>you know, those shows are all South Park, you know,
<v Speaker 4>they're all, you know, looking at around thirty years running now,
<v Speaker 4>you know exactly, and like, you know, you can't do
<v Speaker 4>that with a modern family. You know, the actors are
<v Speaker 4>going to grow up. You know, they're going to hit puberty.
<v Speaker 4>They're not going to be children anymore. People are gonna
<v Speaker 4>have babies. You know, it's like it doesn't have that
<v Speaker 4>same longevity. And now we just don't even really see
<v Speaker 4>those sitcoms anymore in my opinion.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, true, you're so right. It's like how many
<v Speaker 5>Barts would they have had to hire if they would
<v Speaker 5>have hired a ten year old boy, Yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 5>seventeen Barts or something. But yeah, you're totally right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we went through about ten Christopher Robbins because they
<v Speaker 1>always insisted on getting a little boy.
<v Speaker 5>Wow, yeah, wow.
<v Speaker 1>And I remember Nikita his dad was one of them,
<v Speaker 1>was named Nikita and cute kid. And he said, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, he keeps he'll sit there in gold. He's
<v Speaker 1>talking like this, no, so don't do that to you.
<v Speaker 1>Up we go, Up we go. And he made a
<v Speaker 1>joke about squeezing part of his anatomy to get it
<v Speaker 1>up there, so to speak. It's his voice.
<v Speaker 5>Up, I should say sometimes what it takes, boy, I
<v Speaker 5>tell you the sacrifices that voiceover actors do.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, we give, We give till the chaps
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<v Speaker 1>there's no way. I mean, you know, when you guys first,
<v Speaker 1>you're probably like four years in, maybe five, and I
<v Speaker 1>have to tell you this. I'm not told just before
<v Speaker 1>years ago by but but you guys getting a raise,
<v Speaker 1>and as you know, you've got praise the Lord, thank
<v Speaker 1>you Jesus. I mean, I'm all for you know, we're
<v Speaker 1>all going, yeah, give them a right, you know, and
<v Speaker 1>while it's only an anime, okay, well give them all
<v Speaker 1>the same amount that Tom Selleck gets from Magnum p
<v Speaker 1>I or you know. And then because it's parody. It's
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And they and who was it?
<v Speaker 1>I guess who was the parent company, but they had everybody, Well,
<v Speaker 1>we're going to replace the cast. We're going to replace
<v Speaker 1>the cast. You remember that. I don't have to tell
<v Speaker 1>you that.
<v Speaker 5>The loyalty of the industry there were I don't think
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember that because it's like people are like, no,
<v Speaker 5>I'm not stepping in there. Let them know they're going
<v Speaker 5>to have to deal with it. And you know we're
<v Speaker 5>setting a precedent.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and yeah. Well I went and I sat there
<v Speaker 1>for an hour and a half from my audition, and
<v Speaker 1>I told and I lied, I said, I do a
<v Speaker 1>perfect part and I do a fantastic Homer and I'm
<v Speaker 1>never gonna do.
<v Speaker 5>It for you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they him, and I said bye, and I
<v Speaker 1>walked and I said, pay them.
<v Speaker 5>And you showed up to.
<v Speaker 4>Just to do that, just to just to do it.
<v Speaker 1>I lied, I didn't do a perfect anything. But they didn't.
<v Speaker 1>They didn't know. They probably believe me. Wow, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they probably believe me so not that they gave a damn,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. And I said pay them and then we left.
<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do?
<v Speaker 5>Wow?
<v Speaker 1>I mean if it was on camera, well, thank you
<v Speaker 1>very much. Oh wow, nothing to it. Yeah, yeah, you
<v Speaker 1>gotta because and I mean, I certainly know what it is.
<v Speaker 1>On the other side of the fence. For years they
<v Speaker 1>were casting for a new poo and a new taker,
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking around. Yeah, and one of you know,
<v Speaker 1>friends might have told me. They said, well, they called
<v Speaker 1>me in and and and a couple of them said, well, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but I kind of sucked. And I said, well, good,
<v Speaker 1>that's great. Thanks. That's too bad. You're breaking my heart
<v Speaker 1>that you suck.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, nobody, nobody. You can have a you can have
<v Speaker 5>an acceptable facsimile of the original. But when it comes
<v Speaker 5>right down to it, even the word anime, it means
<v Speaker 5>injecting life into something, injecting spirit and without the original person,
<v Speaker 5>the being, the spiritual being. That's like creating that sound yink,
<v Speaker 5>got it? You know, Ai, I'm not worried about AI.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's good.
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm not worried about it. Hank Hank Azaria
<v Speaker 5>did a really cool thing. I think it was with
<v Speaker 5>I think it was with Vanity Fair And they did
<v Speaker 5>a whole thing with him, and they challenged him and
<v Speaker 5>they had him read something and then they did the
<v Speaker 5>AI of him and you can totally hear the difference.
<v Speaker 5>It's like there's no there's no passion underneath it. You
<v Speaker 5>cannot create art with a with a computer.
<v Speaker 4>I think it is really interesting though. I agree with you.
<v Speaker 4>But we just had Raven Simon on last week and
<v Speaker 4>she has a podcast with her wife, and they were
<v Speaker 4>telling me that they had an episode where the audio
<v Speaker 4>like cut out on their recording, like they didn't it didn't,
<v Speaker 4>you know, it came through all you know, with white
<v Speaker 4>noise and every thing like that, and they were able
<v Speaker 4>to use AI to match their voice to what they
<v Speaker 4>were saying. And I think.
<v Speaker 5>But that's a good point though, But for a little snippet,
<v Speaker 5>I think it's acceptable and it's kind of like the
<v Speaker 5>intention behind it is it to completely wipe out and
<v Speaker 5>take away somebody's job that can literally do it, you know,
<v Speaker 5>And it's a bizarre thing. It's complicated. It's complicated and
<v Speaker 5>you can make agreements. And it brings to my mind
<v Speaker 5>is like will the Simpsons ever end, you know, after
<v Speaker 5>we do, when they finally, are they going to make
<v Speaker 5>an agreement that we.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, have you ever heard? I'm sure there
<v Speaker 4>has to be Ai Bart Simpson out there. Have you
<v Speaker 4>ever heard one of your of yourself?
<v Speaker 5>Not only that, I've never heard anybody be able to
<v Speaker 5>do any of my characters at the Bart Nelson, Ralph
<v Speaker 5>Todd Kurny database, I've never heard anybody. I think it's
<v Speaker 5>because I'm a woman. A dude can't do it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>you know, you prove that very well.
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, yeah, yeah, that's so true.
<v Speaker 5>But I think the fact that I'm a woman. But
<v Speaker 5>it's also and they've had competitions and I've been a judge. Oh,
<v Speaker 5>it's kind of fun and I get the opportunity and
<v Speaker 5>I hear them and they're they're the contest is to
<v Speaker 5>do it? Was it was Ralph I think, and it
<v Speaker 5>was Bart and it was you can find it on YouTube.
<v Speaker 5>But it was like they would do it, And now
<v Speaker 5>I'm supposed to critique them, and it's like, wow, that's
<v Speaker 5>tough because it's pretty good what you're doing. It's pretty good,
<v Speaker 5>but can you do that and can you sustain that
<v Speaker 5>what you're doing or you know, your placement is pretty good,
<v Speaker 5>it's a little too nasally. You need to drop it
<v Speaker 5>down and to try to describe physically how you make
<v Speaker 5>a sound. I don't know about you, but yeah, I've
<v Speaker 5>never thought about it. I just just did it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeahs are the best stinks. That's I mean, that's that's.
<v Speaker 1>I've said that for years. It's like, you know, because
<v Speaker 1>people start to analyze it and I go, oh, it's right.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can do that even yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>why yeah, you know, if you're doing it, it's like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>well that's how you do it. Well.
<v Speaker 5>I've been inspired. I've been inspired by characters that I've
<v Speaker 5>seen on film and television. And I look at people's teeth,
<v Speaker 5>you know, how they're made, how the splits in their
<v Speaker 5>teeth are their jawline. And Mara Wilson, who was the
<v Speaker 5>little girl on Missus Doubtfire. She had the cutest little
<v Speaker 5>like she was like six years old, and she has
<v Speaker 5>this little sound. And I've never done this voice. I
<v Speaker 5>have never been paid to do this sound that this
<v Speaker 5>is my Mara Wilson, this is Doubtfire. And I just
<v Speaker 5>pretend like I have a split there and all of
<v Speaker 5>a sudden, you got a character.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Yeah, that is so true. I do things
<v Speaker 1>like that too. Like we were talking about the other day,
<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm not going to over repeat myself, but
<v Speaker 1>you could do a slow motion voice by taking your
<v Speaker 1>tongue and sticking it right up behind your teeth to
<v Speaker 1>don't move, leave it right there.
<v Speaker 5>Leave it right there.
<v Speaker 3>That's a whole new character challenge, brun, don't take back.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's nice. Yeah, all these weird little things, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And here's here's my dolphin. I can't kid sound effects. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>I can't smile talk about shaft a weird little things.
<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, shaft Isaacase, I love isaaca'se. He's a friend. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>he has a dear friend.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we went did Wasn't he a guest here and there?
<v Speaker 5>Well? He was on No, he played chef on he
<v Speaker 5>was on the South Yeah, and he No, he was
<v Speaker 5>never on The Simpsons. He was a personal friend. No,
<v Speaker 5>he was a personal friend of mine. And I went.
<v Speaker 5>I went to Africa with him and here was We
<v Speaker 5>went to to to West Africa and to Ghana and
<v Speaker 5>like nobody, you don't there's no tourism in Ghana. It's
<v Speaker 5>like but it was a culture and he was putting
<v Speaker 5>a school in and I wanted to go help him,
<v Speaker 5>and I I was there for a couple of weeks.
<v Speaker 5>I brought my nine year old daughter and Lucy. Wow,
<v Speaker 5>that was amazing because it's it's just such a different
<v Speaker 5>culture and they all they all wanted to marry her
<v Speaker 5>when she was gonna be of age. It's just such
<v Speaker 5>a learning It was an incredible like culture shock to me.
<v Speaker 5>But the people and their attention on the family dynamic
<v Speaker 5>was extraordinary. And it was very clean and they had
<v Speaker 5>like no money and they just kept the environment really
<v Speaker 5>really clean. But he was because of what he did
<v Speaker 5>for them. They dubbed him and honored him as a king.
<v Speaker 5>And for a gift they gave him are you ready
<v Speaker 5>for this?
<v Speaker 3>An island?
<v Speaker 5>They gave him an island. So I went island shopping
<v Speaker 5>with Isaac Hayes.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well you're in a very small club show of Hans.
<v Speaker 1>Anybody island shopping? Isaac?
<v Speaker 5>I miss him. He was dear, dear, big big being
<v Speaker 5>amazing man.
<v Speaker 4>I met him once when I was a kid. He
<v Speaker 4>was on an episode of Stargate. My dad was an
<v Speaker 4>actor on the show called Stargate, and he did an
<v Speaker 4>episode of the show, and I remember me and my
<v Speaker 4>siblings were so excited to meet him. Yes, and my
<v Speaker 4>dad's how do you know who Isaac Hayes, daddy? That's chef?
<v Speaker 4>Like to this day he doesn't let it go like
<v Speaker 4>he was like, well, chef, really, Isaac Hayes's chef.
<v Speaker 5>Maybe chef to you.
<v Speaker 1>But he chaffed me.
<v Speaker 3>He shut it up.
<v Speaker 5>Done, and before he passed they did a whole tribute
<v Speaker 5>to him on the set. They did a thing with
<v Speaker 5>Lisa and Bart doing a thing on shaft and so
<v Speaker 5>I got them to give me the cell because this
<v Speaker 5>is when they were still doing the original thing. And
<v Speaker 5>I got the cell and I gave it to him
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, I want to see your collection.
<v Speaker 4>I love it so much. Sounds so cool, yes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the cow don't forget the cow.
<v Speaker 5>Don't forget milk out cool as hell.
<v Speaker 1>Only you could have a cow on the on the river, okay, sure,
<v Speaker 1>well mind much better than a fiddler, probably less noisy.
<v Speaker 5>Well that cow My husband and at the time and
<v Speaker 5>I were driving up the what was that the fourteen freeway,
<v Speaker 5>and I looked over and there was a whole pasture
<v Speaker 5>of cows and I looked, yes, exactly, but I looked
<v Speaker 5>over there, but they were not moving, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 5>are those things real? Like, what's the deal. It didn't
<v Speaker 5>make it any cents. Murphy, turn around, turn around. We
<v Speaker 5>got to go back. So we get off the next desk,
<v Speaker 5>go all the way back to this place, I think
<v Speaker 5>it was called the barnyard, and we go in there
<v Speaker 5>and sure enough, and these were prop cows, so for
<v Speaker 5>like Westerns and when they needed or they needed to
<v Speaker 5>have animals in the background, they were. They made the
<v Speaker 5>and it was life size, so made out of firebrough glass.
<v Speaker 3>It was nine hundred bucks, which.
<v Speaker 5>Is a lot of money. And I said, I want it.
<v Speaker 5>I want to get this. So I got it and
<v Speaker 5>painted it Jersey like and I still have her.
<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful.
<v Speaker 5>And her name's Milk Dud.
<v Speaker 1>Yes it is.
<v Speaker 3>Good story, Yes very much.
<v Speaker 1>So well, Snickers was taken, but that's incredible. What's keeping
<v Speaker 1>you happy these days? Whatever you want?
<v Speaker 5>No, actually, I stay really busy. I paint, I sculped.
<v Speaker 5>We've got this podcast that recently dropped, and yeah, it's
<v Speaker 5>just I gotta tell you you You Chris and I
<v Speaker 5>talked a little bit before, I before I stepped in here.
<v Speaker 5>But that is a it's another job. It is a
<v Speaker 5>full time job, and you must have an amazing staff
<v Speaker 5>all the research and all the prep that you do,
<v Speaker 5>and then there's the post production on it. It's full time,
<v Speaker 5>and I.
<v Speaker 1>Think you're the staff.
<v Speaker 4>We have some great people that help us out. We
<v Speaker 4>have some great It does really take a whole team though,
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a whole team effort of like absolutely not
<v Speaker 4>even to mention the planning, the coordinating, the studios, the locations,
<v Speaker 4>like I mentioned, you know, we do it on the
<v Speaker 4>road as well. But what made you want to start
<v Speaker 4>a podcast?
<v Speaker 1>You know?
<v Speaker 5>It's just like the idea was suggested to me a
<v Speaker 5>production company and we've done some films together, some live
<v Speaker 5>action films, and maybe I might make a little appearance
<v Speaker 5>in it, but I'm not so interested in doing a lead,
<v Speaker 5>not an independent film. Actually doing these films. We had
<v Speaker 5>one recently in Spain and shot even during COVID shot
<v Speaker 5>another one in Spain called Brego that you can see,
<v Speaker 5>uh you can pull that off of Amazon.
<v Speaker 1>Is called.
<v Speaker 5>Which means sheep. It means uh yeah, means sheep like
<v Speaker 5>like sheep. People like you follow like sheep. And it's
<v Speaker 5>it's actually a suspense thriller drama. It's kind of hard
<v Speaker 5>hitting about drug the drug cartel in in a.
<v Speaker 1>In people that you don't want to piss off.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, And and the life of a guy that
<v Speaker 5>is hired to fly the drug and drop it in
<v Speaker 5>the United States and what happens, and he's got a
<v Speaker 5>family and it's it's it's tough.
<v Speaker 1>Uh.
<v Speaker 5>Lucy Lucy Hale is the lead in it, and she
<v Speaker 5>does quite an incredible job. And anyway, and I'd done
<v Speaker 5>my own film in Search of Fellini and that was
<v Speaker 5>the first one that we did. That was a bit
<v Speaker 5>of go but that's you could see that on YouTube.
<v Speaker 5>And took us to Italy on that one, and that
<v Speaker 5>was a great experience. We've got this podcast called Simpson's Declassified.
<v Speaker 5>It's like nobody's doing it. There's a there are a
<v Speaker 5>couple of fans out there that have some sites, for sure,
<v Speaker 5>but this one with the situation of having well, it's
<v Speaker 5>not like it's exact, not like a roll index of
<v Speaker 5>people I can just call up because these are guests
<v Speaker 5>on the show and we have to go through the
<v Speaker 5>you know, managers in the traditional way. But the opportunity
<v Speaker 5>to do it just seemed too fun. It's kind of
<v Speaker 5>like you got to find your own voice on how
<v Speaker 5>to do it. What positions this show with you and
<v Speaker 5>me right now, what positions this outside of the other
<v Speaker 5>shows that are there. And I think we found our
<v Speaker 5>own little niche you know, that brings people in, we
<v Speaker 5>play games with them, and you know, we got some
<v Speaker 5>guest stars coming up, Alis and Janny. We're at Al Yankovic.
<v Speaker 1>Oh great, Yeah, I love that guy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh my gosh, I don't do you know him personally?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's been on the show, he's been on The
<v Speaker 5>Simpsons a couple of times. But it was really when
<v Speaker 5>we did the Hollywood Bowl that he he really just shone.
<v Speaker 5>He sang a couple of songs of his own parodies
<v Speaker 5>and he was just a delight and so kind to everyone.
<v Speaker 5>So I called him up and you know, we would
<v Speaker 5>love to do something else together, but he's busy. He's
<v Speaker 5>on the road right he's doing his own tour and man,
<v Speaker 5>he's filling stadiums. This guy is so out there and
<v Speaker 5>just a genius.
<v Speaker 1>And oh god, yeah, he's a delight.
<v Speaker 5>He whipped out his accordion.
<v Speaker 3>His story is just.
<v Speaker 5>Playing his song.
<v Speaker 1>You're going to say his organ because that would different
<v Speaker 1>whipped out his accordion. Well that's awesome. Yeah, not accordion
<v Speaker 1>playing it's a lost art, you know, it's.
<v Speaker 5>Like, okay, I got to say that, maybe you can react.
<v Speaker 5>He whipped out his accordion.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah wait a minute, oh man, oh man, that's so cool. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so how long? How long? I think we should plug
<v Speaker 1>your cast of pod? Sure? And what is the name?
<v Speaker 5>Let us Simpsons declassified?
<v Speaker 1>It is declassified? Yeah, okay it oh sorry, no, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I got it.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, no, the name Simpsons declassified. Because what we're doing
<v Speaker 5>is having the the common thread is like, what's your
<v Speaker 5>take on the hot takes of the Simpsons predictions? You know,
<v Speaker 5>we want to get that from people and obviously find
<v Speaker 5>out a little bit about things that they remember from
<v Speaker 5>when they were on the show. Or if it's somebody
<v Speaker 5>that worked on the show, you know what we would
<v Speaker 5>love to get. You know, the plan is to get
<v Speaker 5>guys that actually work on the show. You know, Mike
<v Speaker 5>Reese is on it and you'll say that, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 5>and bring in the sound effects guy. And this was
<v Speaker 5>before they had libraries, now, you know, Travis, he ended
<v Speaker 5>up taking a microphone and recording the sound of Bart's
<v Speaker 5>heart beating by using a watermelon and like pounding on
<v Speaker 5>like creating and this guy is a genius and I
<v Speaker 5>want to get him on the show. And some of
<v Speaker 5>the producers they're they're interested in doing it, the writers
<v Speaker 5>are interested in doing it will be fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that is cool. Yeah, well people love that
<v Speaker 1>looking as Rob Polson always says, it's a chance to
<v Speaker 1>go to the circus tent and lift up the flap
<v Speaker 1>and see how the sausage is made or however whatever
<v Speaker 1>the expression is. That's good stuff.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thanks for asking.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah, it's always fascinating. I mean, even
<v Speaker 4>on this podcast, you know, we've had Disney animators and
<v Speaker 4>collectors and it's just so fascinating at all the different angles.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, how much merchandise does the Simpsons produce?
<v Speaker 5>Like, oh please, let's not even go there. I mean, no,
<v Speaker 5>I'm inspired by what you're doing because you do that
<v Speaker 5>thing where's what's it called? You don't have a guest,
<v Speaker 5>And it's like the questions that they ask.
<v Speaker 1>You, the talks, the oh sure sure, well the mail.
<v Speaker 5>Bag mail bag. Yeah, that's a great idea, you know.
<v Speaker 5>And I think I have a co host named Sophie Kerts.
<v Speaker 5>Excuse me, I'll say it again. I have a co
<v Speaker 5>host named Sophie Kurtz and she has been a friend
<v Speaker 5>for a long long time and she sits with me
<v Speaker 5>and you know, and we haven't done one like that yet,
<v Speaker 5>but we will and delve into and touch on some
<v Speaker 5>male bag subjects and answer questions. It's just it's a learning, evolving,
<v Speaker 5>ever growing kind of a live thing, you know that
<v Speaker 5>you that we're creating.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean me personally, I've learned so much over
<v Speaker 4>the course of the last two years, you know about
<v Speaker 4>like once again, like the logistics and microphones. I didn't
<v Speaker 4>know anything about microphones, you know, yeah, right, pretty much.
<v Speaker 4>You walked into Guitar Center and like, hey have this
<v Speaker 4>YouTube clip and everybody seems to be using these microphones.
<v Speaker 1>Where are they?
<v Speaker 4>Oh you want that? Sure, SMB seventy or whatever, you know,
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, okay, I'll use that. And I don't know
<v Speaker 4>how to use this equipment. Okay, I guess I need
<v Speaker 4>to learn wow, you know. And like I know a
<v Speaker 4>little bit about cameras, you know, not much. Still I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>we have to film it. Like we got to film it.
<v Speaker 4>People love watching.
<v Speaker 5>That says a lot about you, and it says a
<v Speaker 5>lot about you too, because the smartest thing you can
<v Speaker 5>do is surround yourself with people that know more than
<v Speaker 5>you do.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's easy for me. I can walk by
<v Speaker 1>the kindergarten get that done well.
<v Speaker 5>Monica Gill, she's my co producer, co founder of the company,
<v Speaker 5>and she like we've been together for business partners working
<v Speaker 5>with I mean for like eighteen years.
<v Speaker 1>Oh good.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's been a quite an amazing evolution because
<v Speaker 5>as she's growing and learning, I am too, and taking
<v Speaker 5>on more responsibilities and more challenges. And it's just it's fun.
<v Speaker 5>And one of my one of our themes really is
<v Speaker 5>if it's not fun, why bother? Yeah, yeah, it's gotta
<v Speaker 5>be fine.
<v Speaker 1>Or else you lose you lose your interest.
<v Speaker 2>I do.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I have eighty eh D so badly
<v Speaker 1>that you know, it's like, if it's not got to
<v Speaker 1>keep me going or else, I'm just gonna Okay, I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna go eat some cereal, you know, or something.
<v Speaker 3>I have to go now, dude, you know, we're just active.
<v Speaker 5>I think you're just an active person and that that creative,
<v Speaker 5>creative stimulation and artistic contributions keeps that that's the fuel
<v Speaker 5>that keeps me going for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well I always said that Monkey Hour. I make
<v Speaker 1>my living doing Monkey hour. Now you know you used
<v Speaker 1>to get me kicked out of class and and then
<v Speaker 1>I learned more outside in the hall. Oh yeah, in
<v Speaker 1>the in the classroom.
<v Speaker 5>Now we get paid to bourbon fart. It's just.
<v Speaker 1>Yes.
<v Speaker 5>And do motor boats? And do.
<v Speaker 1>Can you do a motor boat's? See? Oh there you go.
<v Speaker 1>That's a damn fine before.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, if you've been in the air, that's true.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I could. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm much better. Oh
<v Speaker 1>my god, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 5>Such fun.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for an exclusive. No, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 1>we're not letting you go. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Wait quick, well how about we use this opportunity to
<v Speaker 4>play a voice swap game A game?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, we have this, yes, and please explain away.
<v Speaker 4>Alright, I'll explain away. It's a voice swap game where
<v Speaker 4>Jim will say something in one of his character voices,
<v Speaker 4>say like Winny of the peer Dark Wing Ducks say
<v Speaker 4>one of their cash phrases, and then you'll repeat that
<v Speaker 4>catchphrase with one of your characters in that character voice,
<v Speaker 4>and then vice versa. Sound like a plan?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah alright, alright, Well I might as well start a
<v Speaker 1>familiar territory for us, but I'll be peaked. I'll be
<v Speaker 1>I'll be your dad. And now let's see.
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like I always tell the goof, you can't
<v Speaker 2>please everybody, but you gotta please me.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, who would be the most unlikely character to say
<v Speaker 5>something like that, Probably Ralph?
<v Speaker 1>There you go.
<v Speaker 5>No, see, I only remember what you said.
<v Speaker 2>Will It's like I always tell the goof, you can't
<v Speaker 2>please everybody, but you're better please me, Ralph.
<v Speaker 5>It's always like I tell who. It's like I always say,
<v Speaker 5>It's like I always say, if you don't please yourself,
<v Speaker 5>what oh this is embarrassing.
<v Speaker 6>Perfect, perfect, use yourself, you might as well please me.
<v Speaker 6>That's right, Yeah, that's pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it's always.
<v Speaker 3>Comes of a catchphrase.
<v Speaker 1>All right, well okay, so now you have to so
<v Speaker 1>now I give you one.
<v Speaker 5>Oh well, okay, so the most common one, eat my shorts.
<v Speaker 1>I think we need to poosh and answer that. Oh wow,
<v Speaker 1>eat my shorts. But I don't have any on okay,
<v Speaker 1>no lightning bolts. Good good, I was waiting for a
<v Speaker 1>lightning bolt. Okay, we're getting we can we can do.
<v Speaker 4>How about Tigger? How about tigger?
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, let's see. Yeah, okay, well, well, have tiger.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, give me a tigger.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's a tigger. The wonderful thing about tiggers, it's
<v Speaker 1>tiggers are wonderful things.
<v Speaker 5>The wonderful thing about tiggers is.
<v Speaker 1>Pigures.
<v Speaker 3>Let's do it together.
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, okay, hold on, you were you played the
<v Speaker 4>voice of Rufus and Kim Possible didn't did Rufus talk?
<v Speaker 4>I remember a few words you would make noise.
<v Speaker 5>Though, he would say, Wow, they recorded me separate because
<v Speaker 5>I would spit a little too much. Really, I guess apparently,
<v Speaker 5>or least that's what they say. Sure, it was great.
<v Speaker 5>He's such a he's a loved character. But what is
<v Speaker 5>a naked mole rat?
<v Speaker 4>You know?
<v Speaker 5>I had to look it up. It's like an overcooked
<v Speaker 5>hot dog. It looks kind of looks dust.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, well you know you've done some on camera
<v Speaker 1>here and there too, and and you'll well maybe you'll
<v Speaker 1>remember this. I remember running into you telling you I
<v Speaker 1>saw you in this movie Sword and Sorcery, Sword and something,
<v Speaker 1>and you you were playing a wench, a peasant girl. Yeah. No,
<v Speaker 1>she's going no, that wasn't me.
<v Speaker 5>That wasn't me. No, we're not going to quote that.
<v Speaker 3>Let's not talk about that.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, good time. We're going to forget that. Okay, I
<v Speaker 1>should have cleared that before you had a story about that.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're not going to go there.
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to go there. You're going to have
<v Speaker 1>to wonder. You're gonna have to wait for that. Now,
<v Speaker 1>they're all, now you're gonna you have to read it
<v Speaker 1>in your mars.
<v Speaker 5>I will tell you that I look like Harpo Marx
<v Speaker 5>and I got to go to Spain to shoot it, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>because it was it was a period piece and my
<v Speaker 5>hair was all curly, and I played with Rutger Hower
<v Speaker 5>and Susan Tyrrell was in it, and Jennifer Jason Lee
<v Speaker 5>and what's the young guy's name that Robert Arrow? Robert No,
<v Speaker 5>It was a Australian actor that was a big news
<v Speaker 5>at the time. And I can't remember his name, but
<v Speaker 5>that was That was a trip that was hard. That
<v Speaker 5>was a very difficult shoot for me because I came
<v Speaker 5>in they'd already been together for a month and I
<v Speaker 5>didn't know anybody, and I really didn't know much about
<v Speaker 5>acting in front of the camera, and I was just
<v Speaker 5>scared and I had to kiss a total stranger and
<v Speaker 5>let him kind of whatever, and it's like, wow, I
<v Speaker 5>was scared and it was really kind of a bit
<v Speaker 5>of a me too, to be honest with you, before
<v Speaker 5>it was me too and I had nobody, nobody standing
<v Speaker 5>up for me, and I was scared and this guy
<v Speaker 5>that was not Okay.
<v Speaker 1>It's a bit gotcha. Yeah, itsna on the or say
<v Speaker 1>an orcery say it's hard to pig Latin that one. Yes, gotcha? Okay, Yeah, Well,
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I brought up a terrible subject. Want to
<v Speaker 1>there you go?
<v Speaker 5>But wow, No, but I've done. I did some other
<v Speaker 5>on camera stuff. It was on Cheers and Empty Nest
<v Speaker 5>and Mister Belvedere and did a movie of the Week
<v Speaker 5>that I was That was with Kathleen, which casting the
<v Speaker 5>Sundance Kid Kathleen, Oh.
<v Speaker 1>Not turn Oh god, I can see her Sam. Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>Is there a husband Robert Redford? No, she was in
<v Speaker 5>but Cassidy and now I can't remember her name.
<v Speaker 4>Do you have a preference of doing voiceover on camera?
<v Speaker 4>Do you do stage?
<v Speaker 3>I have done stage.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I started out training on stage and taking acting
<v Speaker 5>classes and didn't quite know what to do because they
<v Speaker 5>didn't have voiceovers in university you know. So I did
<v Speaker 5>theater and a lot of my in high school, you know,
<v Speaker 5>junior senior class play, I did summer theater, but I
<v Speaker 5>never really had any dreams of pursuing as a career,
<v Speaker 5>but graduating as a senior. A lot of my friends
<v Speaker 5>would write in the yearbook, hope to see you on
<v Speaker 5>the stage someday, or You're going to be a big star, Nancy,
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, no, no, I'm not going to do that.
<v Speaker 5>And really it's kind of going back to what we
<v Speaker 5>were talking about earlier, is that I would do these
<v Speaker 5>speeches and mostly tell children's stories and found I could
<v Speaker 5>change my voice. And once I got this comment, you
<v Speaker 5>have an interesting voice, you should do cartoons for a living.
<v Speaker 5>And I never realized that there were actors and never
<v Speaker 5>thought of it. It's just like was a kid watching
<v Speaker 5>the Flintstones and Jet said, you know, and not thinking
<v Speaker 5>about an actor actually doing I thought, wow, you can
<v Speaker 5>make a living doing that, and that started a passion
<v Speaker 5>to pursue, and so I started making choices like that.
<v Speaker 5>But along the way I went to Ohio you and
<v Speaker 5>then eventually Ucla to be by Dawes that I had
<v Speaker 5>said and dropped out of school to do a play
<v Speaker 5>and interesting. But Alan Oppenheimer, who's a name you'll remember
<v Speaker 5>mostly seventies and eighties, but he played my dad in
<v Speaker 5>a theater production. I was twenty two playing a twelve
<v Speaker 5>year old on stage. And it's with that that I
<v Speaker 5>got an agent that then started sending me out for
<v Speaker 5>on camera and this was like, okay, I guess I
<v Speaker 5>could try that. And next thing, you know, I end
<v Speaker 5>up getting a lead in a pilot that never went anywhere.
<v Speaker 5>And then from that, Twilight Zone the movie came up,
<v Speaker 5>and that's Joe Dante, who is major animation buff.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, oh wow, yeah, huge, huge.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, huge fan. And he had me read my resume
<v Speaker 5>and said, if you can read that, you got to
<v Speaker 5>get cast in this episode of mine. And I get
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm on one of those conveyor belt kind
<v Speaker 5>of a thing and I'm pretending it's a green screen
<v Speaker 5>and I'm getting eaten by an animated monster in his
<v Speaker 5>version Twilight Zone the movie that opened up a whole
<v Speaker 5>new door for me in terms of like expression as
<v Speaker 5>an artist. So that was kind of fun. And then
<v Speaker 5>I met this fella and went off to had gone
<v Speaker 5>off to Italy and had an adventure over there. It
<v Speaker 5>was quite an adventure and did that as a movie
<v Speaker 5>and then met this fellow and it was quick. We met,
<v Speaker 5>fell in love, got married, got pregnant, and had our
<v Speaker 5>first baby. And now The Simpsons is also happening. So
<v Speaker 5>it's been a there's been of a Cinderella story to
<v Speaker 5>be honest with. Yeah, boy, lucky, lucky, very very very fortunate.
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, you're fortunate, but not lucky. I mean, lucky
<v Speaker 1>is the lottery. Fortunate is being but you were prepared
<v Speaker 1>when opportunity.
<v Speaker 4>Not there you go.
<v Speaker 5>I'll take that.
<v Speaker 1>I take that. Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt about that.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like to say being lucky is being prepared
<v Speaker 4>for the.
<v Speaker 5>Moment there you go, you know, because rewind Oh, this
<v Speaker 5>opportunity came along and I wouldn't call it luck, but
<v Speaker 5>it's like I was there. I didn't want to do Lisa.
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to do Bart. Yeah, I said, I'll do Bart. Boy.
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<v Speaker 4>Do it Now?
<v Speaker 1>How many times has Bart been on the cover of Like,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's been on Time, He's been on Newsweek.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, time twice.
<v Speaker 1>That's not bad. I mean that's crazy cool. Yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>who can say that?
<v Speaker 5>It's so funny. But I don't know about you. But
<v Speaker 5>like when I do on camera, I see myself and
<v Speaker 5>I get critical of me and I see me. But
<v Speaker 5>when I do Bart, and I do any animated show,
<v Speaker 5>I am very removed from it. I can look at
<v Speaker 5>it objectively and I can say and I can just
<v Speaker 5>be a fan. I can just like be a public
<v Speaker 5>and enjoy the show, which I love to do. With
<v Speaker 5>all the stuff that we did and watching the shows
<v Speaker 5>and they were so fun and so delightful, it was
<v Speaker 5>just a just a whole different time than it is now.
<v Speaker 5>But there's much more opportunity now actually for artists out
<v Speaker 5>there wondering how am I ever going to do this?
<v Speaker 5>Because you can create your own stuff.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, yeah, before I mean twenty years ago, not
<v Speaker 1>that long, it would be unheard of. Yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I mean a podcast, what is that even?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>People get boosts from this type of thing. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>social media what is that? Yeah, you know it's relatively new,
<v Speaker 1>and there are people out there, Oh my gosh, buddy, Nathan,
<v Speaker 1>there are people that make fabulous livings with their phone
<v Speaker 1>or couple of cameras.
<v Speaker 4>Even like James the We have this YouTuber. His channel
<v Speaker 4>is called the odd One is Out and it's like
<v Speaker 4>a little animated comic and you know, so he's like
<v Speaker 4>an animator, a voice actor, a producer, an editor all
<v Speaker 4>in one and like self made and like his videos
<v Speaker 4>get like hundreds of millions of views. Like he's like,
<v Speaker 4>it's so interesting to me because he's like technically in
<v Speaker 4>show business, but like in a completely different, like uninstitutionalized section,
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you know, he probably knows more about
<v Speaker 4>like you know, the violation policies on YouTube than like
<v Speaker 4>you know, any part of production or anything like that.
<v Speaker 4>And not to disparage him, it's just, you know, so
<v Speaker 4>fascinating to me.
<v Speaker 5>It's like anonymity. He gets to keep his anonymic because
<v Speaker 5>he's animated.
<v Speaker 4>Do you like that aspect of being a voice actor,
<v Speaker 4>because to me, it's almost like a superpower, like when
<v Speaker 4>I like gym or something. It's like you can transform
<v Speaker 4>somebody just like that. You know, It's like you can
<v Speaker 4>walk by somebody, but you hear the voice and it's
<v Speaker 4>like whoa.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I know that voice.
<v Speaker 5>I'm so curious about you and this because now because
<v Speaker 5>you because this is on the people.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's filmed.
<v Speaker 5>So are you recognized now a little bit?
<v Speaker 1>You know, a little bit here and like yeah, well,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been in the store and and people
<v Speaker 1>will go mm hmmm, and they're they're trying to go, wait,
<v Speaker 1>did I buy insurance from this guy?
<v Speaker 4>Or do do I know you?
<v Speaker 1>Are you? You know, you get a little of that,
<v Speaker 1>and I think, well, comic cons are are get you
<v Speaker 1>out there too? Oh yeah, you know, I enjoy doing those.
<v Speaker 1>Those are fun. But yeah, it's a little bit right.
<v Speaker 4>The craziest instance I've seen was when I was with you.
<v Speaker 4>I know that always freaks me out when like I'm
<v Speaker 4>at a convention or something like your producer.
<v Speaker 1>Cristy's what is going on here?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, It's like it's weird because like you forget that
<v Speaker 4>it's like put out there. It's like a job to me,
<v Speaker 4>you know, like I'm so focused on like the production
<v Speaker 4>side of things, Like I'm not sitting there watching myself
<v Speaker 4>on YouTube, you know, like I see the edits, I
<v Speaker 4>see the clips and stuff like that. But it's just weird,
<v Speaker 4>weird to me. But the craziest thing I saw of
<v Speaker 4>you was when we were at D twenty three and
<v Speaker 4>like everybody knows who you are, and it was like
<v Speaker 4>it was like you were like Michael Jackson walking through there.
<v Speaker 1>People keep coming up, coming up, coming.
<v Speaker 4>Up from everywhere, and it's like holy cow, because they're
<v Speaker 4>all you know, Disney super fans.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and next thing, and I can't move, Yeah, and you.
<v Speaker 4>Have to start like actually, like sorry, there's no time,
<v Speaker 4>you know, like sorry, sorry, like you know, and you
<v Speaker 4>need other people to do that for you, you know,
<v Speaker 4>because it's it's inconsiderate if you do it yourself. But
<v Speaker 4>if you have like team members who are like this
<v Speaker 4>is our job, like sorry, you know, there's a time
<v Speaker 4>and a place, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't imagine, you know what, I understand why
<v Speaker 1>Paul McCartney or the Beat, somebody can you imagine. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>or you know any George Clooney, Brad b Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you probably can't budge. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Well, like even like Raven was talking about it last week,
<v Speaker 4>like she would wear a mask, like a full lo
<v Speaker 4>like diamond studied masks to go to a concert because
<v Speaker 4>literally she can't go anywhere, just like everybody knows your face.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's tough, you know, Disney the View.
<v Speaker 4>Like everybody knows what Raven looks like. You know, it's like, right, Ven,
<v Speaker 4>you literally can't be yourself the Cosby Show, Like that's
<v Speaker 4>just such a fascinating life to me, like being like
<v Speaker 4>a child. I keep bringing this up, but it's so fascinating,
<v Speaker 4>like you know, her and people like Donnie Osmond or
<v Speaker 4>just like people who've been famous like since they have memories.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 5>It's interesting because artists we really are looked up to,
<v Speaker 5>and it takes a certain amount of responsibility to be
<v Speaker 5>able to be the lead or a co lead in
<v Speaker 5>a show, and because you set the attitude of the
<v Speaker 5>rest of the show and responsible wise, when you go
<v Speaker 5>out in public, your pr has to be in you
<v Speaker 5>have to you know, you need to be and some
<v Speaker 5>people that's not so common to them. It's it's hard
<v Speaker 5>for them to do that. They're not used to it,
<v Speaker 5>and it's a it's a it's a learned I think
<v Speaker 5>it's a learned ability that I know for sure I
<v Speaker 5>have learned it and how to do it. And it's
<v Speaker 5>not being afraid of it. This this world is full
<v Speaker 5>of a lot of force, a lot of attention on you,
<v Speaker 5>and you have to be willing to have that and
<v Speaker 5>communicate back. And when you do that. So when I
<v Speaker 5>get mob at the end of a comic con and
<v Speaker 5>I'm getting mob by some people that haven't paid money
<v Speaker 5>to go in, it's just unethical so much. How can
<v Speaker 5>I do that? It's just wrong. And I I know,
<v Speaker 5>but they're not they're not the fans. These are guys
<v Speaker 5>that are taking that and they're selling it. And it's
<v Speaker 5>like no, But it takes a lot of front to say, Okay, guys,
<v Speaker 5>here's the deal. I wish I could help you out. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I know you're recording this. It's fine, Yeah, I just
<v Speaker 5>you know, you got to make a living. I got
<v Speaker 5>what you're saying, But I am thinking about the people
<v Speaker 5>in there.
<v Speaker 4>They've got her waiting five hours, yeah, and they've brought their.
<v Speaker 5>Whole family, and they've flown from Wisconsin to come all
<v Speaker 5>the way out here in San Diego, and it's that
<v Speaker 5>this is their vacation and they saved up for it.
<v Speaker 5>How can I, in my heart of hearts, then just
<v Speaker 5>give you an autograph? So sorry, guys, it's not gonna happen.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm sorry. They know what they're doing, they know exactly,
<v Speaker 4>they know where you're gonna be, they know where you're
<v Speaker 4>getting picked up, they know what flight you're getting on.
<v Speaker 4>Like that always blows my mind when they're sitting there
<v Speaker 4>at the airport and like, honestly, like pisses me off.
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, yeah, you know way more than the
<v Speaker 4>fans know, and you're trying to use that fact to
<v Speaker 4>take advantage of somebody.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Then there's times when you're sitting on an airplane
<v Speaker 5>and the guy next to you, he doesn't have any
<v Speaker 5>idea who you are, and you're just for me. I
<v Speaker 5>get a little sometimes I get a little curious about
<v Speaker 5>the guy next to me, and I start chatting with
<v Speaker 5>him and I'm not telling him who I am. I'm
<v Speaker 5>just me and finding out about him. And he's not
<v Speaker 5>recognizing me. She's not recognizing me. And then then they'll say, so,
<v Speaker 5>but what do you what do you do? And I
<v Speaker 5>kind of like it when I prefer to give them
<v Speaker 5>all the attention because people love to talk about themselves,
<v Speaker 5>they really do. And if you give somebody the opportunity,
<v Speaker 5>you can make a four hour flight last, you know,
<v Speaker 5>one hour. And then when it turns around to me,
<v Speaker 5>they're like, wait what I said? Yeah I am, but
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, he come here. Let's do a Sophie.
<v Speaker 5>And it's kind of like that to me is one
<v Speaker 5>of the perks that we have that we can pop
<v Speaker 5>this thing out of our back pocket. And I'm Bart
<v Speaker 5>Simpson and.
<v Speaker 1>That's a nice thing to be able to say, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and it's good. And you see their little faces light up.
<v Speaker 4>Oh you know.
<v Speaker 1>Do you get criers? Yes?
<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, I get people that can't they can't even
<v Speaker 5>shake it right, yeah, And I take them by the shoulder.
<v Speaker 5>If it's at a comic con and there's a table there,
<v Speaker 5>I will physically, I will reach around and hold their shoulders.
<v Speaker 5>I'll say, shake my hand, shake and give them some
<v Speaker 5>physical contact and it kind of actually will settle, It'll
<v Speaker 5>put them there, you know, and.
<v Speaker 7>It'll just say look at me, look at me, shake
<v Speaker 7>my hand, Come here, give me a hug. Coming, I'm
<v Speaker 7>coming around, Give me a hug more than a handshake.
<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you try it. It really really works.
<v Speaker 1>You become very real, yeah, you know, And it'll always
<v Speaker 1>be some lady like for Pooh, and she can't she
<v Speaker 1>can't really say anything, and the husband's going, she's really
<v Speaker 1>a big fan like, and I go, yeah, I'm getting
<v Speaker 1>that it is, you know, and I you know, I
<v Speaker 1>want to give him something to take away that made
<v Speaker 1>the work, the weight worth it, or the price of
<v Speaker 1>admission or whatever it is, you know, because you don't
<v Speaker 1>want to because I mean if I you know, if
<v Speaker 1>I was like five years old or ten or how
<v Speaker 1>or right now. And there are certain people that if
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what i'd do, if I met Paul McCartney,
<v Speaker 1>i'd probably fall apart, you know, or ring, you know
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So I get it, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>have to get it, and they have to respect there
<v Speaker 1>because it's them. And I always say, it's it's them
<v Speaker 1>revisiting their childhood. So you don't want to poke holes
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, anybody's childhood.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know.
<v Speaker 5>There was an episode on the Simpsons when Ernest borgnine.
<v Speaker 5>It was it was a scouting we all went to
<v Speaker 5>camp or something, and he was a scout leader. And
<v Speaker 5>he walked into the room and of course, I mean
<v Speaker 5>I knew him from Michale's Navy for sure, but before
<v Speaker 5>that it was a television This was Patty Chayevsky's telefilm Marty.
<v Speaker 5>He walks into the room and I go, Marty, Oh gosh,
<v Speaker 5>did I really say that they walked him. I'm sorry, Ernest,
<v Speaker 5>I just got.
<v Speaker 1>To tell you.
<v Speaker 5>He was actually very touched by that. It was really sweet.
<v Speaker 5>We had a nice chat, and you know, to reach
<v Speaker 5>out and I live for the moments when I can
<v Speaker 5>do that with another artist and be able to validate
<v Speaker 5>them in a way that is totally sincere. And they
<v Speaker 5>get it because they get a lot of super film,
<v Speaker 5>Oh you're so great, I love you. You're the most amazing,
<v Speaker 5>but to get very specific with them and tell them
<v Speaker 5>how you you're the reason why you contribute greatness to
<v Speaker 5>our culture. You lift people's hopes up, you inspire others
<v Speaker 5>and along that line, and it's that that, Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 5>one of the pleasures that I have doing what I do.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it's very meaningful to a lot of people. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's sure is there's absolutely no doubt about it.
<v Speaker 1>And there's no way to see stuff like that coming, right,
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't, you know, I imagine. In fact,
<v Speaker 1>I presented it the Annis with Matt one year and
<v Speaker 1>he was just so self effacing. He's just the nicest guy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>didn't It doesn't act like the king of the world,
<v Speaker 1>which he kind of is, you know, And it's refreshing
<v Speaker 1>because then you run into somebody who's like ten rungs
<v Speaker 1>beneath him and they act like there are all that
<v Speaker 1>in a bag of chips, you know, and that gets
<v Speaker 1>that gets old. Yeah, but you got to keep your
<v Speaker 1>feet on the ground, right, and you do, and you
<v Speaker 1>have a cow on the roof too. I still can't
<v Speaker 1>get over the cow. I really get a kick out
<v Speaker 1>of that.
<v Speaker 5>Man.
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I'm jumping topics big time here. But I
<v Speaker 4>got to ask you. It's Sabrina Carpenter really your niece?
<v Speaker 5>Oh?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 5>And no?
<v Speaker 4>Yes?
<v Speaker 5>And interesting, well she's not a blood relative. Her grandmother
<v Speaker 5>was married to my dad, so her dad was my stepbrother.
<v Speaker 4>Interesting.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but when she was like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
<v Speaker 5>I met her when she was eight. I had never
<v Speaker 5>met her before her folks and brought the three girls
<v Speaker 5>out to my house and they stayed with us because
<v Speaker 5>she was interested in Her dream was to do everything Disney.
<v Speaker 5>She wanted a Disney contract and she said, I want
<v Speaker 5>to do that since she was six years old, and
<v Speaker 5>her dad produced her in videos and did it. Edna
<v Speaker 5>James did a lot. I mean her voice, this this
<v Speaker 5>little gal could really do it. So they would come
<v Speaker 5>out every year and stay with me, and they lived
<v Speaker 5>with me for four months at a time during pilot
<v Speaker 5>season and absolutely and helped her get a you know,
<v Speaker 5>management agent, and you know, but you know, not to
<v Speaker 5>take the credit for it, but it's something that I
<v Speaker 5>had no problem doing. But she needed to hold her
<v Speaker 5>own obviously. And this little gal, she sings, she dances,
<v Speaker 5>she writes, she's she's an egot. I she will be
<v Speaker 5>an egot someday for those that don't know. That's Emmy,
<v Speaker 5>Grammy Oscar, Tony Winner. She can do it all. And
<v Speaker 5>I think she's adorable. She certainly doesn't need my help.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 5>I gave her a little boost and she ran with
<v Speaker 5>it and just I'm very proud of her. You know,
<v Speaker 5>it's it's it's kind of sweet and man, oh man,
<v Speaker 5>her fans are my fans. My fans are her fans.
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of kind of a cool thing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.
<v Speaker 4>She's reached that level of like celebrity. Like in my mind,
<v Speaker 4>there's always like a level of celebrity where like even
<v Speaker 4>if you don't consume their media, people start to know
<v Speaker 4>who you are. Like you just hear this name so much,
<v Speaker 4>you know, like hear it, hear it, hear it. You know,
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't listen to Taylor Swift. Obviously I
<v Speaker 4>know who she is.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 4>It's like that thing of like, whoa, you reached this
<v Speaker 4>level of like, holy crap, you're being pushed to everybody.
<v Speaker 4>Pretty fascinating.
<v Speaker 5>Well look at her now, she's just flying what I'm saying,
<v Speaker 5>yeah flying, it's really cool.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's in the driver's suit. That's so interesting. Like this,
<v Speaker 4>this is this town, like everybody's kind of like one
<v Speaker 4>off from each other and work together relatives.
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's interesting, kind of like the Kevin Bacon. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>six degrees? What are you a degree of Kevin? We're
<v Speaker 1>all six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
<v Speaker 5>Oh where I'm I think I did figure it out
<v Speaker 5>one time. I think I'm three degrees.
<v Speaker 1>Moved fam Well now you well, now you're too, because
<v Speaker 1>I worked with him and we worked together, so that
<v Speaker 1>makes I think that does not mean it too Now
<v Speaker 1>I think you're you were a two. You just didn't
<v Speaker 1>even know it.
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Kevin, Yeah there's Bart Simpson. Yeah yeah, no, it's
<v Speaker 5>me for reals. Yeah, yeah, dude, I'm a fan. I'm
<v Speaker 5>a fan from the beginning. It's dance.
<v Speaker 1>Now, you can leave my shorts alone. That's okay, you
<v Speaker 1>don't have Oh that's funny. Oh did you ever do
<v Speaker 1>that really, like like prank calls or anything like going
<v Speaker 1>through a drive through, because I tried it. I've told
<v Speaker 1>it before and it's and it's like okay, yeah, well,
<v Speaker 1>so what do you want? All right, give me a hamburger? Jesus.
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to I was trying to impress you.
<v Speaker 5>Oh sometimes it fails miserably. Say I'm Bart Simpson. They're like, huh, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>I don't watch that.
<v Speaker 4>Show, so you're the one.
<v Speaker 1>You're the one that didn't.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, like the Simpsons, Like I was just saying,
<v Speaker 4>like the Simpsons, the show is on that level of
<v Speaker 4>like celebrity, you know, where it's like, even if you
<v Speaker 4>don't watch it, you know who Homer Simpson is. You
<v Speaker 4>know true.
<v Speaker 5>If I do talk to somebody and I try to
<v Speaker 5>you know, I just want to have that surprise and
<v Speaker 5>shock them and they don't fall for it. And then
<v Speaker 5>I tell them who I am and they're like hmmm,
<v Speaker 5>like wait a minute, are you really?
<v Speaker 1>Are you?
<v Speaker 5>Like you really him? And I said, yeah, man, do
<v Speaker 5>you think people sound like this normally? He's like, you're
<v Speaker 5>kidding me. I go, yeah, what's your name, Jason? Jason,
<v Speaker 5>what's happening?
<v Speaker 8>And then it's a but it like, yeah, that celebrity
<v Speaker 8>thing has some magic quality to it that people are
<v Speaker 8>just like, whoa.
<v Speaker 5>It's not the same in England though from what I understand,
<v Speaker 5>it's not quite the same. Artists or you know, they
<v Speaker 5>work for a living, they do their thing. The series
<v Speaker 5>don't last as long as they're not set up like
<v Speaker 5>they are in America. It's a whole different thing over there,
<v Speaker 5>and not k not going to it's kind of like
<v Speaker 5>it's just what it is, and you kind of got to.
<v Speaker 4>Roll with it, you know, yeah, well they come like
<v Speaker 4>I feel like my take on that is, you know,
<v Speaker 4>like theater is like much more ingrained into their culture,
<v Speaker 4>you know, like shakes. You know, they grow up like
<v Speaker 4>really respecting the form of theater. Yeah, and like a
<v Speaker 4>lot of actors are just like, like you said, another profession.
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, everybody, everybody acts, you know, we all
<v Speaker 4>did this before. Like that's how it feels to me,
<v Speaker 4>at least when I'm over there.
<v Speaker 5>We're America, come on over here.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we sure do.
<v Speaker 1>Thank god. Yeah that's crazy.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so well, thank you so much for being here.
<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate it. I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to shoes, do you Yeah, those are
<v Speaker 1>really cool. My girls, speaking of the Beatles.
<v Speaker 5>Key Landry, the Growth, this is Albert and Ginny and
<v Speaker 5>I've got a whole collection and I love them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too.
<v Speaker 5>It's her grandma and grandpa. And that's that's a shameless
<v Speaker 5>self plug for my good friend Kelly.
<v Speaker 1>See you learned something new.
<v Speaker 3>I like yours.
<v Speaker 4>There's a there's a very coachy, comfy work shoes.
<v Speaker 1>There we go all of a sudden, we're doing fashion.
<v Speaker 4>Nobody sees my shoes.
<v Speaker 5>Such a pleasure. I've this has been such a treat,
<v Speaker 5>and it's been you conversation. I loved it.
<v Speaker 1>I know same here. We should do this more often.
<v Speaker 4>We absolutely should.
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely let's do it more often. I all come back
<v Speaker 5>whenever you want me. That'd be fun.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, we'll do part two stay tuned. Yeah, thank
<v Speaker 4>you guys all for watching. Really appreciate it. Once again,
<v Speaker 4>I'm producer Chris the Legend, mister Jim Cummings and Nancy Cartwright.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you guys all for being here, and we will
<v Speaker 4>catch you in the next one.