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Five four three two one go. Boys are back in town. Okay,
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The boys are back. Everybody. Another edition of the Deadlock podcast podcast The
Kiss on Coming. Oh my god, it's coming. It's not this an
episode ever? Isn't that the greatest thing ever? Johnny is not crazy.
It's absolutely the best. This is episode number one eighty eight. Tony,
don't come up. I got some one episode number this. Then we won't
get anything wrong when we uploaded. I promise ads will be right. You
will, the ads will be just as they usually already promised. It's it
was an accident. We're learning the system and we're fixing the ads stuff.
But I just want to let you know the odds are targeted and what you
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well. On this edition of the Deadlock Podcast, we'll be talking about the
April second, two thousand and one episode of Monday in that Raw, which
came after Wrestleman he is seventeen on April first? What if April Fool's joke?
That was? But before you get to that, let's get into the
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to watch some Concussion City. Let me tell you you can see little shitty
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Of course. Continuing last month was El Generico Month. Of course this well,
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it was. It was fucking hilarious. I think it was great because,
like, I don't think we've watched neither of any of us have watched it,
this whole paper Union, it's entirety, I don't I don't remember.
It's been like for I've only seen like the bit, so watching the whole
thing was like sure, kind of crazy and then throw it to the commentators
like yeah, you guys figure it out and they're like a right, here
we go. Very of them. It was awesome, super It's yeah,
it's a half of the show felt like, wow, this is a good
show. And then half dude Mike also versus Scott Steiner's on that that's the
craziest match I've ever heard of loss. You got to see that just for
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DPW Forever Steelcage Showdown just aired on DPW dot Live, DPW on Demand dot
Com over the weekend. What I think it was our best show ever.
Unbelievable stuff Man evented by the DPTW World Tag Team Championships on the line.
Violence is Forever defending against the Workhorseman in the first ever steelcage match we ever
did? You're right, steelcage actually happened. We had a cage. We
manifested it a cage. We manifested. It happened. We had a cage.
We just said the fucking fire Marshall stop us, Tony, that's not
that bit died a long time ago. What do you mean? I will
never hear that ever again. Also, we said we're having a cage match.
We did a cage match. It was awesome. Check it out DPW
dot Live, DPW Forever Steelcage Showdown. Speaking of DPW, we might be
coming to your areas sometime soon. April six teenth, will be in Ridgefield
Park, New Jersey for our first out of North Carolina event. Uh.
You can get tickets at DPW btix dot com right now. Meu Yamashta already
signed for that show, and many, many more are going to be announced
very soon. That's in Ridgefield Park, New Jersey. Check us out DPWO
btix dot com. And huge fucking announcement. We're going to fucking Japan.
It's awesome. Let's go. DPW is going to Japan April twenty fifth in
Shinkiba April twenty seventh in Shinjuku. Tickets on zeale right now. Check out
gato move dot com or find us on live pocket or just check out the
deep enw e Twitter at deadlock pro. This is in the making for a
while, ever since we first heard about God remember now, even before then,
since the manifestation of DPW Got to Move. Working together has been a
long time thing, and I'm so glad we finally got to do it Japan.
There's obviously a gigantic goal for us, so we're finally fucking happening.
We're going to goddamn Japan. It's unbelievable, and hey, you should go
to Japan two but if not, if you can't make it out, those
events will also be on DPW dot live. Uh that they aren't being live
stream, but they will be premiered on DPW dot Live. Stay tuned for
more information on that. Oh. Also, James isn't here this week,
probably already figured out He's not just sitting there quietly. Uh, he was
ran over by three trailers and then uh had hydrochloric acid poured into his butt.
That's so yeah. So this week it also, oh, he had
a great time, but you know he's he's reeling from it and uh,
you know, so it's gonna take a minute to recover. So uh,
best switches to the boy James, Uh, and uh, he'll be back
next week. But we we're gonna we're gonna have some funny. We got
the Q and A coming up here. But before we get fuck you,
Tony, you know about the quality of the qual guy. Come on,
bro, Well, before we get to the Q and A, let's take
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two five four has no bit this week, so I'm just gonna say thanks
for the laughs and cheer me up, and I feel it down me Johnny
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made it. What a crazy run this Jose has been. He's un taking
it now he's back and he's still and he's new and I don't know,
but he's killing it over there. So I appreciate you and everybody else.
Yes, thank you all so much for being patrons. We are. It's
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to get into the five dollars Q and a quote. If you're a five
dollar Patreon or above on patreon dot com, size deadlock PW, you can't
ask a question to us and we may read it on the air and then
answer it. I We'll do something like that. Yeah, you never know.
Like this first question here from Ricky the Dragon Steaboat's real name is Dick
Blood, asks what is your biggest pro wrestling what if scenario? Tony?
What is yours? Hmmm? What if? Like am I going to say,
like what if this didn't happen? Or what if I gotta come?
How about that? That would be a crazy if if you never watched wrestling?
Yeah, whereould my life be? That'd be crazy? Because like I
wonder that sometimes as well, because I I have nothing else. I got,
dude, I found fu else on my wife through wrestling. I found
everything through I mean I've got my girlfriend through wrestling. I mean all of
my proxy by proxy of by way of elimination around wrestling. Like a good
amount of my friends came from wrestling. Uh yeah, that's the that's some
fucking good ones. Anything. Because one of scenarios, you know what,
we probably would be better off as like humans, we'd be better off like
uh financially, yeah, right, because like I don't know what else,
Like I legit, I got into wrestling super young, and then that's all
I have. Like I got into other stuff after, but like, you
know what, now I think about it, like, uh, I don't
know if I would have been that big into video games because literally the wrestling,
the N sixty four games got me into like the wrestling, Like I
that's why I started watching mostly was because those games. So I don't know,
man, maybe I wouldn't have been into video games. They would have
just been working nine to five at the docks or something. You know,
who knows. Well, there's another big one if scenario you want to talk
about, Tony, have you heard that? This you the listener? You
know what I we're talking. You know what we're talking. What if one
last night? But he didn't dude, if he one last night and then
came out on Raw and started shrinking off and mowing like a girl. But
it's dead, Cody one, because we watched Usmania, and that's how If
WCW survived Tony, what if ECW survived? Also, if hec to be
survived, I'd be working there. Richard Ives ask, are you guys huge
haul Cogan fans? Now? Now, I put this in here because I'm
very curious as to why you think that US horrifically beating this guy off for
once and making fun of him and calling every horrible name possible would make you
think that I like that fucking guy. No, if you actually, you
actually very fun to make If you actually it's just very fun to make fun
of that fucking guy. You've got an easy voice to impersonate. He's a
big dumb you know, rip on him, jay Z drew asque you have
to replace your dick with wrestling gimmick? Which one are you picking? They
called DIBs on head? Sorry, Al Snow. So if if you're Tony,
this is great for you because you are packing that fucking They're taking a
they're taking all Snow's head on their dick. Yeah you can't. Yeah,
you can't. Dick can't be head doesn't work like that that they said that,
so you gotta pick something. I'm assuming you got DIBs on light tube,
right. Is that a gimmick? Is that what you're talking about?
A gimmick? I heard that. I oh, maybe okay, because they
maybe you're okay. In my mind, I think I was thinking character like
I was thinking you would be cock, would be the big red of machine.
You be all cod dude of course with the mustache. And mine's horse
a good brother, you know, because bawling mine is Vincent aka Virgil aka
don't word about my T shirt color. Brother. I don't know now,
I don't know. I thought he made gimmick like well, he did say
head. He said physical thing. Okay, read it again. Sorry,
I read it as you place your dick with a wrestling gimmick. But he
picked head. That's confusing. Zecau's gimmick. You can say gimmick for like
anything. Really, the way I see it would be yeah, yeah,
sure, okay. Well, if if we're talking wrestling character, then Mines
uh uh the original gangster. Yeah yeah, that's the original playoff from the
Himalayas is the almost chicken plucker. Yours is the big red machine. That's
the lord is the dead man because I never give the rection. But if
it's a gimmick, like a physical thing like too, my guesses mine's big
evil brother. Wait, big evil your cog? Yeah, you know what
about an item like a right, like a Oh yeah, yeah, mine's
a table. You gave me mine table? Why very breaks, very easily
expensive. Yeah, we did, trust me, did do them and jumped
them up your ass. No, I don't know, pizza cutter. That
doesn't make any stets at all. What the fuck is wrong with your dick
gimmicks? Well, I too makes sense, right, I understand for me?
Yeah, long white bad kendos full of powders back for you. Mine's
a kendo stick. I don't know. Oh yeah, made a made of
bamboo leaves a mark alight, I like that one. Okay. Here's a
question from wondering if Johnny, If Johnny and James talks Tony salon Obs,
I don't remember this name about it? They ask, your homie is dying,
And the only way to say this for you, Tony, your homie
is dying, and the only way to save your homies life is to suck
their dick. Would you suck off your boy at completion to save their life?
Past? You gotta answered it made five dollars or more? Best,
Bro, James is dying Tony and well maybe not. Let's see who else
you Uh, Macho, Macho is dying Tony. The only way to his
life is to suck his dick. Would you suck call Macho to save his
life? Past? He's dying? Sorry savage answer, you're dying, Macho?
See you me which friend? Oh that makes a big difference. Course
all some good girl, you know, pick a friends. Dad records gets
I got I need him around, Bro, he's good for my Dude's Dan,
He's gotta go. Sorry alright. Hey, Dan Reichert has Dan Recherds,
Please explain what happened between Fred Flintstone and James's wife. I constily hear
the rever to have no idea? What's about? Apologies for bringing up would
you sure to be a sore personal issue? Well, damn, I'm sorry
that James isn't here to answer this, but I feel like it's only right
to uh. Let you know, so this comes from the s GH we
did on the WWE and Flintstone's movie where we found out that Fred Flintstone is
fucking James's wife. Who is it Wilma James's wife? Yeah, Wilma was
originally James's wife and then Fred Flintstone fucked her bed Rocks dial um, and
then, uh, he's just held a grudge ever since. We've been trying
to get him to get over it. Um. But yeah, if you
check out the w W E Flintstone's movie, sha, is that the one?
Is that? I think that's right? Yeah? Is there two?
Is there more than one? I don't know. They have the wrestle many
of Scooby Doo and in the Jets, and I think Scooby Doo this multiple.
I think that one only has the Okay, Um, so yeah,
check that out. But shouts out Dan record, I would keep you alive.
Um, screeched to Rat asks Johnny, can you reflect on your time
working at CZW and potentially any or an interactions you've had one to gage,
I feel like I've talked about this before, but maybe people didn't know this,
so I'll you know, there's new people listening. I'm sure sure,
Yeah, it shouts out to the new people listening. So, yeah,
I worked for CZW for a year. I want to say I was a
sound guy. I was a sound guy for CZW. Oh a question.
I don't know if you ever you probably called me this before, but how
did you get that job or how did you become the sound guy? That's
a question. Even I was friends with another actually my buddy James, shouts
out, James, not our James, another James who also who um,
I'm pretty sure still runs CZW studios dot com. So I met him from
Pro Wrestling Unplugged, which was another local m Philly in that rivaled SZW was
started by the Backseat Boys. Yeah, they left CZW and then started PWU.
So I was a PWU mark and I started like or I didn't started.
I joined in on a PW fan forum and then took it over and
then I met Then I met James through that, and then he was doing
music videos for something. Somehow he got in. He started working for them,
and then he obviously we were a friend. So they needed somebody to
fill a music spot, a sound guy spot. So I I was like,
fuck it, I'll do it. It's so funny look back, because
I was stressed because like doing music for Show of Wrestling show actually like stressful.
It was. It's now that I'm like, you know doing it or
you know we run DPW, it's like wow this and that didn't mean fucking
anything. But back then I was stressed. All hell yeah, hell yeah
they are man. Uh. So I was on a couple I'm trying to
think. So there was one where John Moxley wanted to use um was it
was it New Jack's theme. Yeah, he wanted to come out to he
was facing homicide. Yeah, he wanted to come out to New Jacks the
Natural Born Killers. Uh. And I was ready to do it. I
was like, oh fuck. And then uh, DJ Hyde, who was
the owner at the time, I don't know, he might still own it.
Actually um put the kai bosh on it. So I was very upset
about that. But just having that interaction with mox was funny. He was
like he was super super excited to come out to New Jack's theme. But
then I think the month after we made it happen. That's awesome. Wow.
Yeah. There was a time where they were filming something. I think
they were trying to film something for G four or something like that. So
they there's a camera crew around, so they took it was after a fucking
really bad show. Um it was main invented by Oxley and Brodie Lee,
and like the crowd was fucking super unhappy and everyone was just pissed. So
they call us to the we all go to this back area where and this
is in the ECW arena. So they call us to this back area and
there's a ring back there because that's where they did the training, and DJA
hides in the ring and DJA hides like I think he was trying to put
on for the cameras because he's like dressing down the locker room about it being
a bad show, and I'm like this had never happened before. And all
of a sudden, i recy cup back getting falls out of his big pants
pocket and I'm looking around and I'm like, I'm like, how is everybody
not dying laughing right now? I'm struggling so hard, and he like steps
on it like no one's acknowledging this thing. I'm like, fucking, oh
my god. So that was a vivid memory a Nick Gage interaction. There
was one time I think it was a CZW Jersey All Pro doubleheader show.
There was like cupcakes in the back age had a cupcake and then he I've
never like, you know, Gauge is a you know, you know,
everyone knows Nick Gauge. Yeah, tough guy. But I saw him drop
like we saw him drop this cupcake. And I'd never seen him sad before,
and this it was like he was so fucking sad. It was so
sad. I felt so fucking bad Nick. Every interaction I've had with Nick
Auge was fucking awesome though always super nice to me. When I was a
sound guy, he was super fucking nice. I did a couple music videos
to sew he always he thought, well, yeah, so I've been on
one or two road trips with Nick we U. I did sound for was
it i wa Deep South Carnage Cup. That might have been two thousand and
eight oh nine, I don't remember. Gauge was in the tournament though sexyed
he was in a tournament Thumb Time Jack. I was doing sound for that
and Brett Launel was also there, and he gave me a queue to hit
a song and that was the wrong queue and Gauge was not happy but getting
cut off, which led to him like storm because he knew I was me.
He stormed over and fucking threaten me with like a knife photo. I
was like sixteen, this is all. Yeah, by the way, I'm
super fucking young here. I'm like seven, sixteen, seventeen years old here.
Yeah, that was funny. I think that's on video. So where
I saw that. That is when someone tweeted it, like recently. Yeah
I was. That was when I had short hair too, fuck me.
But yeah, those are like those are like the major ones. Other than
that, it was like, you know, it's just fun hanging out with
like MLJ and Rob Naylor before shows. We would fucking just die laughing about
just the stupidest fucking shit. Um yeah, just it was. It was
a really good time. And then I just didn't want to do it anymore,
so I stopped. I was like, I just want to I just
want to go to the shows and hang out. Yeah, I want to
watch the show that working. Yeah, So so that was my time.
It's easy dupe. That's crazy. Jay McCarthy asked what has been the most
surprising thing you have learned running a wrestling company. What do you think,
Tony, I don't know, man, it's kind of a lot. Yeah,
there's a lot. Um, it's not the stuff you would expect it
to be, like, you know, like I feel like, uh like
you assume, like you know, dealing with wrestlers, deal with wrestlers isn't
like it's I mean, it's you know, it's not sorry, not dealing
with us like getting wrestlers as in like you know, trying to work around
people's dates and all. That's a fucking pain in the ass. Oh yeah,
and venues too is kind of painting. The venues is the fucking worst,
man, it's the worst. It's always like a thing where I'd say,
they don't know what you think about wrestling, and then they wanted like
a diagram, which is fine. You have to draw like a whole diagram
of like what the show is, and we're just like, there's just a
ring in the middle and will chairs around it. I don't know what else
you want, yeah, ma'am, I'm sorry. I don't know the wattage
that we're gonna fucking run here. I don't know, man. And then
like there's always some like dumb bullshit with that, uh, I mean for
the longest, I mean, thankfully up until recently. I mean think now
it's different. But like before, like dealing with a wrestling ring sucks because
we were like for i'd say seven months, Tony, you want to about
that, Like we were, we were loading and unloading. Yeah, the
whole fucking setup. It was. That was the biggest thing. Was doing
everything ourselves is kind of like, uh, I mean, yeah, I
don't know what. It's just surprising, but like, uh, I don't
know, trying to ask for help and trusting other people is kind of like
a hard thing for us to do because he wanted to be exactly right,
So it's kind of hard. It's not something we expected. We didn't expect
to have to like and maybe maybe it's just us being stubborn. We want
to be hands on with everything. We want to, you know, make
sure everything goes right. So it's like, yeah, you know, uh,
you know, there's some stuff we could let go of. But like,
yeah, doing the ring truck fucking sucked. I fucking I mean,
we got used to it and it was like a bonding ship for the boys,
you know what I mean, Like I was just fucking we gotta go
to the truck. But like, damn, I think one of the most
surprising things is that like YouTube isn't our main focus because I thought that would
have been like our home run for us would be like sure, it turned
out that it doesn't work. It's not a very good money maker really to
to do the shows that way. So it's like trying to pivot and figure
that out. I think that was a big surprise me because I was like,
oh, yeah, we'll just make YouTube, but we'll make a YouTube
series in a show and whatever, and then so many different reasons, not
even just like monetarily, but just like everything that came together. It's like,
that's not the way that we should run this. And I think there's
been a couple things like that were like maybe what if we could have done
a little bit different and when we first started, sure, but that's just
like somebody I won't name names just because it's you know, it's it's not
necessary, but there's they know who they are. There's some people that we
book that became like key players that I never expected to become key players,
like not just on the show, just like behind the scenes, like super
fucking helpful. Yeah, stuff like that, Like you know, it's it's
never who you expect. So it's stuff like that's also pretty cool. The
biggest, I say the biggest, the biggest, biggest, biggest thing is
the venues. The venues is such a fucking pai. Yeah, it's trying
to find the right venue and then hav an availability and like because we run
in a you know, the Raleigh Durham area of the Triangle, so it's
kind of like there's a lot going on in that. So like you have
to compete with not just wrestling, but like everything else from oh my god,
that fucking gun show. There's a gun show everything you ever, every
time the Snake shows a gun show everywhere halftime. People come to our show
and say, hey, where's a gun show, and we're like down the
street, go down the street. It's right down the street. So it's
uh yeah, trying to compete with that. People that wrote like concerts and
just everything. Man, Mma, you know they all run in all the
venues we try to run in. So it's kind of crazy, but yeah,
yeah, pretty surprising. Just imagine what this is. The Roman rains
fucking guy asked, uh, suck a dick or save your mom and nine
million dollars what I'll take an I'll take nine million dollars Yeah, so you're
gonna save your mom and nine million dollars instead of like a dick. Sure
is that the question? Yeah, I'll save my mom would take nine million
dollars. Okay, so holy shit, you change what about you? You
already it was for you? Yeah, for sure it was to my it
wasn't my question. And last year Plasma fifty two, what is your favorite
wrestling game story slash season mode? Uh? Story? I think I'll maybe
honing it on because there's a lot of season modes that I like. Any
of the ones from No Mercy I fucking love any Like the championship modes are
just so fucking fun. Those are awesome, Like any any of the story
as much as I can. Played about any of the stories where the APA
is gonna fuck me up made me laugh. Yeah, that was funny.
The one where Candis Michelle turns you into like a girlr SBR seven, I
think that is okay. I'm just thinking because I played like what my channel
was built. I was like spr twenty eleven, so those are as were
sentiment sure, yeah, yeah, the one versus the Undertaker, I think
you user c aw and you fight the Undertaker and you collect go backstage and
collect souls and stuff. You remember that one? Oh my god, I
do remember't know why I remember? Is that the one with the druids.
Yeah, you get the Druid Ring, you get the Druid Ring and stuff.
Remember you unlocked that. That's the one I remember for some reason,
just because I played it on my channel for so long, and that was
like, what was the um? What was the one? We're all like
the Irish and English dudes came the better than Utopia one? What was that?
That might have been two ten? Was that two thousand and ten?
Or was that twelve? I think that might have been w twelve. That
might have been twelve. You might be with Shamus and stuff and Drew mcinti,
yeah, yeah yeah and Regal. Yeah. In fact, it was
better than Utopia probably. Think about road Dressmania was a really good series to
think about. It was fun. The villain story in the Outsiders story,
remember they had that one and the hero that three dies, That's what it
was. You know, I can't believe I'm for fucking my fucking favorite favorite
one. The wrestling nineteen Revengement. Yes, I was just gonna say that
with with the with the security guards and you chuck them off the thing.
And if Revengement is kind of like a console version of w Betrayal for the
Game Boy. You remember that, Yes, oh that's a good one,
dude. A lot of people sleep It was a fun story. It's just
a shitty game people sleep on that you just run on and punch people.
You can beat in like two hours. But it's a super it's a fun
game. I played that multiple times on my channel just because I thought it
was if you If you guys haven't played The Betrayal was a game Boy game,
and the story was I think, was it Stephanie gets kidnapped and you
have to like fight through to get to the top of w E Headquarters to
choose between the rock Taker, Triple H, and Stone Cold. I think,
yeah, I think if you pick anybody but Triple H, the story
is like it was a swerve. Yeah, there was a sorry spoilers,
I get the boss's Vince or something. Is it or is that not?
How Yeah? I think so. But there's also dudes, like you find
the enemies are weird. It's a side scroller and you're fighting through like I
think w B Headquarters and like the dude, there's like a guy with a
briefcase assault right, like plumbers. I think, yeah, it's great.
Yeah, but that's how the WrestleMania nineteen one is as well. They have
random dudes that just come at security guards and cops. Yeah. I think
the idea is like you're you're trying to like you got kicked out of WrestleMania,
and then you and Stephanie like put together a plan for you to like,
fuck, WrestleMania is canceled. Isn't it? Is that the one where
is canceled or is that a different one? The storyline is WrestleMania is canceled.
Do you remember that? Was that revenge? Don't remember that one?
Is that the same one? That might be the same one. It might
be the revenge I swear WrestleMania is canceled, and then you have to like
figure it out and like it might be that one. Yeah, that might
be that one. Yeah, that one. That one's very dude. I
played that with Scott Steiner because I thought it was crazy that scut Steiner was
in that game, and it got really fucking hard and I just got like
rage and I could not beat it. I don't think I ever beat it.
Brutal. Oh really, because once you just keep getting thrown off and
it just started to kiss me off. Bro. There's some where you have
to like swing from fucking chains to like four security guards are beating the shit
out of you. I think I was playing on if I I remember,
but it was. Yeah, it's fucking great. There's like a construction royal
rumble. I guess where you like have to throw like thirty construction guards off.
I think that math was that just me off. It was like thirty
dudes just keep running ads you and you have to throw them off that.
You gotta try to beat that. Now I gotta play that again. I'm
gonna start that all over again. I beat dumb in revenge mode in one
video or something. It's good. It's fun as fun. It's also a
Dolphin emulator come to Steam so you should check it out. What is that
true? Yeah, it's slated for the Steam Store, so you can play
it on switch. Probably well you can buy or this is not the Steam
not Switch, but the Steam Deck because it's not illegal to have the Dolphin
emulator. It's just illegal to have the ro Dolphins. The best fucking emulator.
Yeah, an emulators so it's not illegal to have it. It's illegal
to have the ROMs, you know, so you could could technically have the
dolphin thing. It's apparently coming to steam, which sounds crazy. Wow.
That is insane, wow, Dick, Yeah, yeah, well there you
go. That is uh. That is the Q and A for this week.
Thank you for asking questions everybody, and any of those give us your
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star review. Uh. And now it's time to get into the retro review.
All right, now it's time to talk about WF Monday Night Raw for
April second, two thousand and one. But Johnny, before we get into
that, let's take a look at what was going on in the world of
wrestling around this time. By a looking at the Wrestling Observer news. Let's
have of course, this is gonna be interesting, uh I guess before you
get into it. WAV you had just ended last week was the last night
I bought. It was the last nightual of all time ever was last Monday.
So should be interesting to hear what you got to say. We have
reviewed that Nitro as well, by the way, so check the archives for
our review on the last Nitro evers we have so from the Observer, April
second, two thousand and one. We've gone through about this area of the
Observer, so I tried to pick out stuff we haven't talked about before.
Some of this you might have heard before, someone might won't be so,
from the Observer, April second, two thousand and one. The purchase of
World Championship Wrestling by WF Entertainment this past week, combined with the ending of
all wrestling programming on the Turner Network, changes the entire landscape of the pro
wrestling industry forever. Last year, when WCW was first put on the market,
the negotiations ran in the hundreds of millions of dollars and there wasn't even
the consideration the product wouldn't keep two valuable prime time slots on two of the
strongest cable stations. This past week, TBS and TNT canceled wrestling. Fusion
Media Ventures, the company that had been announced in January as the buyer for
WCW, still was in the game trying to buy the company. All they
had to do was clear a cable outlet with several major stations out there,
and this is wrestling and its ratings are still strong. One would think people
would beg for the product, but as easy to be found out months earlier,
which calls Paul Hayman to throw in the towel and accept the verdict the
current lance that we had given this wasn't the case. The USA Network publicly
washed their hands of wrestling and didn't want to negotiate. E had no interest,
and after a last stitch attempt to make a deal with Fox for FX
failed, Fusion had to pull out. So no fuckus. If they gould
have got on any fucking network, there was a chance that would have arrived.
If you want to talk about the biggest bag fumbles of all time,
Eric Bischof took the biggest hell here man. He did not buy it.
Unbelievable because he didn't have a TV deal and he said the product was worthless.
Well, WWE is still making money off the deal and they're forever going
to make money out. Yeah, man, you're the biggest idiot of all
time for not buying it, and like you could have like yeah, like
okay, they didn't have a TV deal right then, but surely if they
would have bought it and fucking tried to figure, like, they would have
found somewhere, right, surely, yes, it was a time sensitive thing,
but like they would have found somewhere. And you know, the fucking
tape library is super valuable. I mean obviously they maybe didn't realize how valuable
compared to what who maybe he just wasn't in the game yet, like as
far as like a TV guy, because now he's like very into TV and
like how everything works like that him just was that him? Like him and
Hervey, Like had they already been doing Fusion Media or FUSIONET or Fusion meat
whatever that fusion yeah, fusion yeah, whatever that was that was there.
I think that might have been before Bishop Hervey or maybe they just got a
commune or something. But right, okay, dude, they made the biggest
mistake here. That's unbelievable. I think Chris Jericho says like, once he
found out how much it actually went for, he was like, I don't
because I do you know the number? Yeah, I just sick it up.
Actually, um, what is it? So WF bought the name and
the logo for two point five million dollars in two thousand and one, So
just the name in the logo, so they only had the name of the
ago when they like did the invasion stuff. Yeah. Um, and then
they purchased the entire video library for one point seven million after that. So
the total that they paid for the entire name, logo and video library was
two point four million dollars. That's fun, just like Super three point four
or two point four or four point two did I say, oh oh sorry?
Yeah. So it was four point two point five million for the name
in the logo and then one point seven for the for the tape library,
and that's four point two million dollars. Yeah. I think Chris Jericho was
like, Dude, if I would have known, I would have bought zo.
Could have like a lot of those guys could have, Like Big Show
had a lot of money for his contoint two millions. That's like fuck,
oh yeah, um. The talent that were under contract uh two WWF at
this point that via WF buying w CW were Landstorm, Chuck Palumbo, Shaun
O'Hare, Mark Jindrak, Mike Awesome, Elix Skipper, Shane Helms, Shannon
Moore, Stacy Keebler, Chavagarrera Junior, Mike Sanders, Hugh Morris, Sean
Stasia, Kazayashi, Young Yang, and Billy Kidman. All these wrestlers were
picked up because they had ninety days cycles, which means they can be cut
from their current deal and in most cases will and then we'll be renegotiated with
by w WF and Jim Ross. Now the wrestlers WWF don't appear to want.
I guess there was a meeting hell this past week about this with some
of the main creative forces in WF. While we've only been given sketchy indication
as it regards everyone, every name on this list except except for Bigelow,
Vicious Flair, Duggan, and Stevie Ray, we're specifically told. We were
specifically told that most were in agreement. They didn't want them. So these
are the wrestlers that were on the We Don't Want list, Rick Steiner,
Jim Duggan, Bam Bam, Bigelow, Stevie Ray, Animal, Jeff Jarrett,
Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell, Dustin Rhodes, Sid Vicious, Medajia,
Miss Jones, David Flair, Chronic and Vampiro get Chronic of course, get
them. What the fuck? What Bam Bam had heat? What from Leavin?
Probably w WF. I don't know. I guess so Jared had mad
I mean Jared Luger, I mean Boston buff a really low deal to get
over there. Huh, Well, he does it. He comes over for
like a yeah, he does it. He does end up taking something low
for sure, right, because he does end up showing up for a cup
of coffee. They probably cati like a try out. Here's one one night
contracts. Yeah, some of them were weird, like Stevie Ray, I
don't want to sit Vicious, okay, I like some of these, you
know guys that worked in WWF. Rick Steiner seems like a fucking weird one.
Miss Jones all right, must just be like they're not even on our
radar, like not that they have heat. The hero I guess not Okay,
he's got a mouth. You know, he probably said some shit about
right. There was a lot of people like that. I bet Stevie Ray
said a bunch of shit about WF. Sounds like Steve Ray invented podcast to
talk shit about way. Yeah. Um, I just want to put this
perspective right now about the sale of w c W to w because you said
four point two million was the total that was done. You want to know
what Minecraft sold to Microsoft? O, No, what when Microsoft about Minecraft?
They paid two point five billion dollars The fucking the fucking blocks. The
blocks were two point five billion dollars. I'm sure to feel like a guy
an Apple Minecraft, Tony, but I feel like that's that's incredible just to
put that in like scope of like how things are, like the whole organization
with millions of people. Minecraft way more than the like wrestling ever, I
think so. But that's just it's crazy to think like the cost, you
know, the scope of things. That's great. A major one if in
wrestling history, Tony, if we bought WCW, dude, major would have
been wrestling is if we bought Minecraft, crazy and eight apples in it,
that have been crazy. Rob Van Damn tapes an episode of NBC Spy TV.
Meltzer says, since it really doesn't matter now it can be revealed that
Van dam was in serious negotiations with WCW and Bischoff. Uh with ww and
Bischoff was attempting to keep it quiet to bring him in as a huge surprise
on the restart. Yeah, that was the That was always the room or
I remember, that would be crazy. They're gonna close down come back,
is like Rob Van Damn one of the main guys. That'd be crazy.
Yeah, man, I mean because especially with how long it takes for WWF
to you know, strap him up big. I mean RD obviously, I
think you know they have him in some main event stuff, uh post invasion.
You know he does ship with Triple H and all. But like,
I would have been fucking super curious to see how what RVD does and w
CW unless he's like putting the Misfits in action two, he's Glacier's brother some
bullshit like that. No, I don't know. At the last Nitro,
Luger, and Bagwell were still acting like no matter what anyone was saying.
When push came to show, they were big time players. And would have
a job. Well, sorry about that, hey, Luger, you know
whatever. For whatever reason, Luga just never got picked up. He never
even had a one off run or you know, like he never comes They
put him in the Hall of Fame though, right, yeah they did,
but like that he Nike doesn't. He doesn't. He didn't even have a
cup of coffee there. Like, he didn't even come back for like I
don't even know if he's ever come back for like a one night only type
of or anything. Yeah, like I don't legend Snyder or anything. Nothing
really, that just crazy, not that I can think of. Obviously he
does something in TNA for like he's like in and out of TNA a little
bit. Um. Yeah, I'm just thinking about the way he left it
if I guess that really pissed him off Stack. That really fucked them big
style. Yeah, that made that like legitimized Nitro for But even then they
still brought Hogan. If there's somebody you know, Vince would hopstally. In
twenty eleven, Luger worked with w WE on their wellness policy. I did
not know this, Okay, Well that's a good idea. Helped them get
away with doing drugs wow uh in w after news, the plan for Mania
is to run the show itself for nearly four hours, as opposed to doing
a one hour postgame show as some of the advertising lists. This part.
I couldn't believe, I guess because I was not a dirt, cheat,
fucking kid back at this point, like two thousand and one, I was
only like I was like nine, Oh, yeah I was. I definitely
was on the internet though at that point, yeah, you had to be
um, but I did not. So it says here. As of last
week, the Austin Turn with Vince was still on the books, even though
the crowd reaction to Rock indicates the people right now don't want it. The
Triple As turn made to be the lead. I had no fucking idea about
the Austin Turn. I feel like it would have broke my little heart.
If I had known about it before it happened. That would have been no
even I was a dirty guy, because I read all about like that going
out of business and all that, and sure, but I never heard about
the Austin Turn to ever, I do know that the Rock was getting super
bowed going into the match, though, yeah, because it's Texas especially well
even then on the rows leading up to it, before then it was like
totally in favor of Austin, so well they kind of made Rock at heel
too, they were doing the show with Debra, you know what I mean,
Like they weren't like entire like he wasn't super baby. I try to
forget that the Rock had to manage the Rock or something that she was like
a fucking big crux of the story, part of the story. But yeah,
like now I feel like it's way easier, like big turns like that
don't really like that's like common practice, like finding out about something like that,
Like I mean, like, uh, spoilers for something coming up here
if you but supposedly like they're gonna turn trish, you know what I mean,
Like like that already has already been talked about it, So like stuff
like that like feels normal to me. But like finding out that Austin was
turning at the main of anamania would have been fucked up. Dude. It
was like for me it was such a shocker because they go the match is
now no disqualification. I was like, what the hell? During the main
I had no idea what was going No, I just thought. I was
like, Oh, they're just gonna fucking fight little shitty Johnny had no fucking
idea's going on. Let's see an observer from April ninth, two thousand and
one. Combat's one Wrestling on April fourth in Dover, Delaware at Froggy's Bar
was headlined by John Zandig versus Tommy Dreamer for their heavyweight title. I put
that in here because we watched this. This is on patreon dot com size
Deadlock. That's where Dreamer went over like immediately after ECW officially closed, right,
yeah, this was like this was the day that ec to be like
legally closed, and so Zandig versus Dreamer for the season to be I don't
think. I don't remember it being for the season to be titled, though,
I don't think that was true. I think I went to a no
contest or so I don't remember. You can check it on our Patreon.
It's fucking very fucking funny. Sucks and it's always sucked. I think.
Yeah, Dreamer like does a pro seasonw fuck everything else pro. He's like,
this is the real shittier okay cool in w CW news. I didn't
know about this either, One of the reasons Flare's interviews on Nitro over the
past few months weren't up to his usual standard war because he was banned by
management from saying woo. Johnny As told him he couldn't do it anymore because
management felt that he was playing the role of a CEO and that a CEO
wouldn't be saying woo. Flair never could get into his rhythm without it,
and his interview on the Last Night Show, the band was lifted and he
did his best interview in a long time. While nobody directly has said it,
the feeling is Ace was acting under orders from Bischoff. Okay, all
right, well that's how do you like? Yeah, that's like fucking telling
stone Cold he can't say alustly three sixteen, or I mean maybe telling stone
Cold hen do what for a minute, it might have been fucking pretty good.
Yeah, that's crazy though, But I just thought that was Flair's like
CEO. I didn't really think it was like a band or anything. I
just yeah, they told him not to do it. Yeah, wow,
Okay. Brock Lessner appeared on Wrestling Observer Live on March twenty nine, talking
about his background. He was first approached his junior year by Joe Briscoe and
Jim Ross. He had off He had also gotten offers from WCW through Bishoff
and New Japan through Brad H. R. Rainins and Inoki. Uh he
didn't want to. He also yeah, he so he had fucking w New
Japan both one of them. It says here Brock didn't want to work in
Japan, although he had a story about doing a sixty minute sparring session with
Anoki and marveling at his conditioning for his age. He said at one point
a few years ago he was an interest in UFC after meeting Ken and Frank
Shamrock, but he had never considered it as a viable option over the last
few years because the money wasn't good enough. I just thought it was funny
because Brock goes to both of those fucking places he goes and UFC. You're
right, the money was right at the time for Brock in us mean by
the time he fucking goes Yeah, it's just like crazy, I god,
how did how is there not footage of sixty minute Brock in Anoch sparring fun
bad? That's probably dude, think about like w reboot with brock Lessard and
RVD. Oh my god, Yeah, Vampire is gone, Steve your A's
gone. Yeah, I mean I imagine a bunch of those guys would have
been called in, right. Yeah. But in hindsight, like you know,
W had like the perfect brock Lesner story, like they brought him in,
Oh my god, protected God, would that have happened? You know,
I don't know, probably not, because you know, I can't imagine
they would have did that because you know, like not that Goldberg was still
fresh. But they're not gonna bring Brock in and do that with him.
Not that W did that, but like Brock was super fucking protected, you
know, like, yeah, you're right. If it was best case and
Aaron he came in like exactly how he is now, that would be credible.
Man would have came back. That was wrong. Uh. And the
last few things here observed from April sixteenth, two thousand and one. The
latest on Whole Cogan is that he's still in negotiations with Universal regarding a possible
Hull Cocan restaurant and getting him back into a wrestling promotion. Oh yeah,
bro, they need chicken tetrasini, dude, we need to get back into
the Chicken Tetrazini business brother and maybe you can run all cocin pro dude or
I'm the booker about that? Was it really like did Hogan ever like I
guess TNA he had a lot of sand, But did he like fully book
a company on his own ever? I think it was usually him and Bischoff
or something like that, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like,
I don't know if it was ever like like haul Cogan's what was a micro
championship wrestling or whatever? But I don't know if we never watched that,
I don't know. That might have to go on the book somewhere. Yeah,
we gotta figure that out. Yeah, I have no idea. But
I don't think he ever was like the main dude because he always had someone
else he was the main brother brother. I don't know. Uh. June
Kasai a Big Span Wrestling made a surprise appearance on April fourth season of show,
doing a running on Zandig versus Dreamer, which ended with a ton of
wrestlers brown with barbed wire, light bulbs and tables. This is the part
where I want to talk about because I need to find this. On April
seventh, in Seoul, New Jersey. He did a dive off the top
of a building and reported thirty five feet legit through two tables, which may
be the highest dive in tables through a table and wrestling history. This is
right, thirty five foot high, fucking Judeka size splash. That's incredible.
All we have to find that, we have to find that somewhere. Sounds
fucking awesome. Yeah, I'm trying to find out CCV studios. I imagine
that's on there. And the last piece of a couple of things here if
the five nine first w C t B taping in Trent, New Jersey has
been postponed, and the first taping now looks to be on June ninth at
a site yet to be determined for an for an air date that evening on
a three hour tape delay, although the date is also tentative. If not,
the first taping would be June thirteenth in Fairfax, Virginia. This entire
ww operation is very much a work in progress, as a roster hasn't been
established. There's no front office, referee crew, and now there's agents or
anything. And we're only a few weeks away from that first taping. Tenant
the plans for the first pay per view show to be in September. So
even up to here, like you know, we're a few weeks out after
they got bought, and there's still like an idea you know, at least
out I don't know how much internally, but at least externally from Dirty Guys,
that there's gonna be a fucking w C t B show. You remember
we want I think found the trailer and we talked about this a while.
Yeah, remember, but there was a teaser for that, there was a
spot, right, Yeah, so it was on the books and they were
trying to do something. But dude, if I feel like, I don't
know, it's hindsight's twenty twenty. Maybe it was the best. Maybe they
shouldn't have ever rebooted it. You know, like I just wish I would
have wish it would have happened, just some we would have known, you
know what I mean, like just got to experience what it was, would
have been. Like that's the thing, like they always the problem with like
w B is like they can't it feels like they can't do like the side
project promotion, like when they were trying when they rebooted ECW is still under
the band. Sure, like maybe if it was like it if like I
always heard the rumors like Shane McMahon is gonna buy ECW and it's gonna be
its own thing, and then Shane McMahon and then it became Shane mcvaanon's buying
was gonna be Nitro like that, right, Yeah, Thunder was going to
be the Knackdown, was going to be the something. Yeah, I think
something like that. Yeah, yeah, which sounds crazy for them to do,
but they just they should have like made its own thing and just toured
on his own. But yeah, I don't know, maybe in hindsight it
was a bad idea. Well, last part here, the original role for
Shawn Michaels at resuming in seventeen I didn't I've never heard of this either,
was that he was going to interfere in triple ate for the Undertaker, presumably
the Screw tripleach over, and lead to a singles match between the two of
them. There's no official on Michael's yet, we're told his name is simply
not a subject to anyone is talking about in the company, So that I
have you ever heard of that? I don't think I ever did. Well,
at the time, he was just not even in the company, right,
I don't think so. I mean, he that might have been he
was still doing his school and shit like that. I mean, maybe he
was coming in to be like a fucking ref every so often or some bullshit.
But like, I think he would make a like in two thousand,
I definitely remember who making appearances, So, like, I don't know if
he had shown up in two thousand and one yet, Like obviously he did
commission did the casket match in ninety eight, right, and then that's when
he retired, and then he did the match at Wrestaming he was at fourteen,
Yeah, and then he makes an appearance on Yeah. He makes an
appearance at Deputy from New York during Armygeddon on December tenth, two thousand and
then he's also training people at the Texas Wrestling Academy UM and then Sean leaves
the academy in two of them two okay, So yeah, So I it
sounds like, I mean, if there wasn't if there was anything floated that
he was going to come back for that, it sounds like he was ready
to go in two thousand and one, which is also crazy to think about
because he doesn't come back until two thousand and two. Say, yeah,
it was Nash right, yeah, exactly, but he doesn't actually like wrestle
until whenever after that. I don't remember he did the stuff with Triple Hs,
like at SummerSlam, Right, was the SummerSlam two thousand and two?
I think that's right? It was? Yeah, I think yeah, so
he could like theoretically they could have ran the entire program they did just a
year earlier, the feud with Triple H and all that, but then it
wouldn't have had the episode we have tonight. Yeah, And speaking of that
episode, let's get into it. Let's talk about Monday Night Raw for April
second, two thousand and one, Raw after WrestleMania seventeen. All right,
now it's time to talk about WF Monday Night Raw for April second, two
thousand and one. Tony what what? Yes? Trip back in time?
Let me tell you. We are the raw after WrestleMania seventeen. We figured
this would be appropriate to watch because this is the Monday after WrestleMania. So
we are doing a raw after WrestleMania. So we start off with the usual
intro and actually no cold open, no cold open. You think they'd do
a recap of WrestleMania or son you know tells, don't he made a deal
with the devil? You know that kind of Yeah, don't ship they might.
You know what I was thinking, was it because of the olymp biscuit
song. They maybe didn't put that, but then later they do, so
yeah, maybe it wasn't that. I don't know what. It's my life
in a buck, said George's Meat. Well, they had no competition.
There's no competition. Doesn't matter we do no competition, doesn't matter. People
watching WrestleManias have no competition. So we start off the shot of win from
New York, showing all the fans there and then showing crowd signs will come
back to the arena Austin to sell out to Austin. Now why why why?
Jr? Says I knew championship crowd and stone cold, But why why
has the ryal snake shoulder should to shading himself? Jr. Was also on
commentary with Paul Hayman, which is like my favorite commentary duo ever. Really
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my that's my that's my Uh,
it's them or it's Tana and Don West that's my fucking those are my
guys too, because Paul Hayman was very annoying here and I felt like they
were. That's why I liked it because well, yeah, but not even
that. I felt like they were trying to do Jerry the King Lawler,
Paul Hayman here tonight and all we'll get into later into it. It's like,
oh, because he gets weird, like not him now, but I
could see where they wanted that color guy and Paul, you know it was.
It was interesting though, watching him piss off Jim Ross all night,
which dude, that was the whole thing. Yeah, he went out of
his way to like fucking poke at JR. And it happens even during this
show. I'll come Stephana McMahon and she has she has a strap Tony.
I didn't know what she at first. I swear that she had a noose
in her hand, and I was like, why did she have a news?
I really didn't know why she had singing on the death by Hanging Dead
Turner and she's gonna kill W and bring back ECW, I think is what
you wanted. A lot of strap on her hand and seventy gets in the
rings. She talks about last time russell Man, Trish had the nerve to
slap my dad mistrick Man right in the face of slut slut. She can't
say anything, but she had done nothing. She's talking about her dad and
her husband and slut slut. Maybe she's not with Triple Edge at this point,
is she? Uh? She's still seven? Mcman Helmsley, I don't
remember my time. I feel like he Pedigreeder like recently, or it happens
or it did or didn't. Maybe are you who know? Well, dude,
there's fucking Stephanie's talking here and then they pan to the crowd and show
this sign. It's a drawn picture of Trish Stratus with her She's naked.
It's her fucking tits out and everything and just her fucking titties. Her censor.
I said, all you fucking why are they even showing this? The
fuck is going on here? Oh yeah, Steven, he says, after
everything my dad has done for Trish, and Hayman says and to her,
step says, payback is a bitch. So she's not only gonna kick your
ash, she's gonna whip it. She's requested and granted a whipping match with
Trish here tonight in this very ring. But this, she said, this
night is not just about Trish, It's about someone of important. So all,
I'm gonna introduce you to the most and more important man in sports entertainment
today, my dad, Vince McMahan. And Vince comes out. He's got
a big fucking red box in his hand, a gift you guy. I
guess who do they do that anymore? I don't know if has. I
feel like the asshole chant has might may be lost in time. Yeah,
I don't think they do that asshole chant anymore. Really, I love bring
back the asshole chant, please. So Vince comes out with a big red
box. Vince and Stephanie hug and Stephanie leaves, and Events says, I
would like let I respect, And he talks about, you know, the
fans wondering why he's happy and why smiling, he says, I have the
privilege of personally handing the debitative championship. Uh as soon as he arrives to
stone cold Steve Austin And as many of you might say, mister man,
you shouldn't be happy because Trish strates to a woman whom I heaped lavish gifts
on you know, fur coats and diamond rings, slap me in my face
at WrestleMania. That didn't make me happy. And my wife Linda, obviously
Trish had given her sufficient medication for that week. My wife, he says,
my wife, Now get this. My wife falls off. Get this,
My wife hauls off and kicks me in the gonat And what kind of
what kind of I'm in? We do such a thing. He talks about
McK foley beating him up, in him in the corner and fucking hit him
in the knee and in the head. And then my very sun Shane takes
a garbage can and jams it into my chest and flies from that corner all
the way to this corner and drop kicks that can into my head. So
no, maybe I shouldn't be happy, but you know, it's all the
old expression all is well, that ends well, and Russellman ended just fine
for me. And that's when I saw a sign behind Vince's head that said
rock sucks cock. Everyone everyone was not on the rock side. Nobody.
I don't think anybody really liked the rock at this time. Well they did,
no, which is weird. I don't know why. I mean,
he was still the fucking Rock, because he was. Because I've become apparent
that the Rock was the guy who takes the title in Doomani and loses it.
That's kind of how well Rock is also leaving here soon to go to
Hollywood's do But I don't know. Mummy returns scorpion Scorpion king after this,
right, isn't that what he leaves? Um returns his first one? Right?
I think Mummy returns up first, I think, but he does,
But that's what he's leaving for, right, sure, yes, exactly.
Okay, So Vince says, well, now I've had a chance to listen
to the play by play on that match a Mania now without a mind,
good old JR. I've got a question for you, And Vince walks over
the announce table and he says, JR. Did you or did you not
call Stone Cold s O B? And Jared says hero No. Now Jr
Has like the announces heads it on and Vince has a mic in his mouth.
So it sounds like nobody hears this because nobody reacts. No, there's
no way that anyone hears. It's just the TV crowd. Yeah, but
like Vince is on that mic. How does that work so they can hear
it? He can hear Vince, but the crowd can't hear him. I
don't know. It's weird, that's yeah. I don't know if they shut
the miclf because they knew what I don't know what it was. But anyway,
Vince says, don't deny that. Don't deny that. Did you say
that's stone cold Stone out to the devil himself? Jarry says, you damn
right JR. Well, Vince says, let me think about that for a
moment. Let's see at the At this moment, I thought, well,
Vince is gonna bring him in, be the crap out of JR. There
gonna have something? Does happen on SmackDown? And I think we did talk
about that SmackDown and that's JR interviews Austin in the ring and that's where he
fucking yeah, but I assumed it was happening right now right here at the
shore. Yeah. Uh, well, Vince says, when you think about
a JR, I'm not the devil, although the devil is a powerful individual,
so I guess we do have a bit in common. And Vince just
fucking fucking rambles on for goddamn ever here. This is horrible. This was
not good talks forever here, dude, I'm like, holy shit, it's
like fifteen minutes in and Vince just won't shut the fuck up. So he
says, when I got to the arena night, a bunch of you gave
me a gift and honor of me being here in Texas, and I want
to share that with you. And Vince put goes over to that red box
and he pulls out a ten gallon hat, puts it on his head.
He's yeah, I'm a real Texan. Now he does he does this crazy
strut around the ring. He says, yeah, I can step into some
gal crap and I can choot Tobacca. Yeah, I got some red all
down that backam my ne right here in my back. I'm a real Texan.
And whoever got me this hat, let me just say. And he
puts the hat down on the mat. He says, when I think of
Texas, he rubs his boot on the hat, this is what I think
when I think of Texas. And he rubs his boot on the hat and
fucking stomps it out, and all of a sudden if you some rock comes
out with a very interesting hairline. I don't know. I don't remember this,
like I don't remember this rock look in the games. I don't remember
this hair exactly like this, But it's like it looks kind of up like
I've always heard rumors that, like, oh, they have to have big
muscle, like some wrestlers make them have big muscles. I went if the
Rocks like one of those guys that makes him have a good hairline. He
tells, you can't make my hair look like the contract. You know,
you gotta make me look cool, and says make me really bald. Well,
the Rock comes out here and Rocks is the Rock will make it simple.
The Rock is demanding a rematch for the title. The Rock is demanding
it here tonight, right here, and texts us and then says Rock stone
Colds not even here. It's not fucking happening. Rock. Why does Stone
Cold never arrive on time? I always wondered that about this game. Is
there ever a show where there always doesn't show up? He's always late every
time. Someone should look that up. If I find a raw where Austin's
already at the building when the show stars Roderi's opened and he's got a promo
at the start of the show, but still okay, maybe a lot of
time is Austin is always arriving late, He's always going to Tripleach is always
on time, except for tonight. He's got to be already with the fucking
beginning promo. Uh. Rock reiterates. He says, let's one more time.
The Rock wants a return match. You got a return match. I
like that. That was cool. And if you don't give it the Rock
right now, the Rock is gonna find a way for you to change your
mind. And Rock starts fucking walking down the ramp. He's gonna fuck Vince
up. Vinceas like four times. I think he's like, yeah, calm
down, Rock, got Rock really calmed down, calmed down. I can't
give you your match night, and I'm not going to, but if you
lay a hand on me. The Rock takes the mic again. He says,
the Rock will give you one more chance to change your mind, and
Vince is getting pissed. Vince says, I'm warning you, you lay one
hand on me, there will be a Rock fucking punches him in the head.
So nothing happened. Rock punchs him head, nothing happens. He puts
them in the fucking sharp shooter. Vince taps out, and then Vince fucking
gives Rocket shot he agrees to. He said, you get your title match
to nights, and that's fun. So Rocket, it's really a word to
you, wise the wise excuse me. You beat up your boss, you
get whatever the fuck you want the shooter right now, and then that'll happen.
You'll get what you want, even if he tells you not to,
just do it. Yeah. Well, Vince gets back on the mic because
Rock is leaving, and Vince's, hey, Rock, yeah, you get
your title match to Nights, but you're gonna get it in a steel cage.
By the way. Rock leaves and they play the Rocks music. Vince
cuts this one line promo and then it changes the Vince's music. It's the
last word. I never thought of that. That's always how it is,
but that's what it what happens here. Yeah, I think I think that's
how it works. I looked up. I don't think there was a cage
hang in there. I think they either build it or did it different.
They show it later. Yeah, they build it during the show. Yeah,
because which is very rare. Yeah, it's very rare. But I
guess they wanted to you know, no spoiler, that's awesome, Yeah,
which come pretty unnecessary though they could have just put the cage up there and
never shot it. Yeah exactly unless I mean, you know, I didn't
understand. But still, And then we move on to our first match of
the night, and it's Eddie Guerrero, Dean, Malinko and Perry Saturn taking
on Test Faruke and Bradshaw, which this is an insane fucking matchup here.
Test and the Acolytes are team. Where's Eddie, Dean and Perry with Terry?
But Perry's got Perry and Terry. Yes, yes, I don't know
how that tea. I still don't how Perry got Perry and Terry. You
know, that's that's how a lot of fucking teams to get together, you
know. Just if you rhyme the names that did fucking works true true.
Uh so, uh, the Radicals come out first. Test comes out and
and Eddie h gets on the mic and says cut the music, and he
says, hey, homie, you're missing something. You're resting in the European
Championship because Eddie beat him for you missing the title. He says, you
also have gonna be missing something else. A couple of friends, maybe a
couple of guys to help you compete. Uh. And just to show you,
Dan, Dan, I got fucking chills. That's a fu fucking APA
is here. So APA come out, Eddie, APA and Test rush the
ring. Eddie runs out of the ring. Is Dean and Perry get fucked
up by the apah and matches underway. This is a you know, run
the maile fucking match. Here. APA hit all the classics. They do
a reverse three D to Perry Saturn, which I was confused by, but
I was like, okay, that's cool. Uh. Saturn gets in and
Fux tuts up and hits the as Hyman calls it the moss covered three handled
family gunsh Test hits a full nouse and slam on Saturn for two uh and
then goes for the Terry goes it, gets on the apron to distract after
for that, but Test fucking brings down the ring, goes the pump handle
slammer, Saturn makes the save and then Test big boots Saturn right in his
fucking head. The boots I've ever seen in my life. That was awesome.
It was awesome looking. Then we go backstage William Regal. Before you
get into Regal, he's like, I would just let Terry take the public
House and then get the wind and they come back and beat him up.
Yeah, that's pretty hyman. I don't you know. I wonder how much,
Like I don't know how much because Vince was obviously on headsets, I
wonder how much he actually was produced. I wonder because there was a lot
of segments where Vince was just in the ring because Vince was on camera.
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
That's interesting. So we go backstage. Regal is in his office.
He's still a commissioner here. Regal says, uh, he's I know,
Chris Jericho's a miserable troll. I know he's on the phone, he's talking
to somebody. Says, I know Jericho's a miserable troll. Uh. Sephody
comes in and says, I just want to make sure I have your personal
assurance that will be unable to weasel her way out of the whipping match to
night, and Regal says, no way, But are you sure you want
to go through with this, and Stephany starts attacking his desk with the strap
and she's crazy, is I want to make her squeal like a pig that
she is? And Rego has a fucked up crazy look on his face and
Stephanie just whips this table for a whole minute, it feels like, and
then we go back to the ring. Hayman is looking at the w Diva's
magazine and commentary and Hayman says, I would like to personally volunteer to Rob
sav on the loser of the whipping match, personally me please, I would
like to do that. Yes, that is the the garry the king lawer
coming out of it. Yeah, that's right, that's that's a good point.
It feels like that was like a lawlor thing, but maybe you know,
I guess oh one everyone was still fuck everyone's Yeah. And this is
where they do the mic Way recap. They recap all the title changes out
the show, like the Hardcore title, the European title, and I believe
the tag titles and of course Austin Um winning the title. Yes, they
do the TLC picture recap with audio but his pictures but no, Yeah,
it's like magazine like it says it's doin magazine, but it's all just stills
from the show, like it's not like real pictures. Yeah, so it's
a recap of that match with that match is like one of the craziest matches
of all time, which is incredible. Yeah, so we go back from
that, We go backstage again to Regals office and Vince is in Regals office
and he asked. Regal says, I got some things to do when Austin
gets here, and I don't want to have to worry about my little girl
in this whipping match. You do know what to do. Regal says,
I know exactly what to do, and Vince says, good, I'll go
take some care of some other business. Did we really need that, Like,
did we need to know that Regals gonna interfere? We couldn't have just
they could have just did that. Well, they had a foreshadow and let
you know, and blah blah and the love of the foreshadow. They even
fucking foreshadow Austin's turn it maybe he's staring at himself in the mirror. Yeah,
they foreshadow Triple H two. This all foreshadowing here, It's just lots
of foreshadow. Yeah. Well, speaking of t h is walking into the
building and he's wearing seventeen different jackets. He has a jean jacket, a
leather jacket and shirt under that, probably a vest under that. You can
buy that glass jacket, leather. I saw that Chocolne has a right,
Yeah, that's incredible. How much is it a couple hundred bucks? Let's
see here? Let me look, Yeah, they're open here. Is it
on sale? Yeah? It was, Yeah, I think it is.
Let me see if I go and see, I see, oh this on
the Austin fucking Jersey. There's a lot of bread harts of the two two
hundred dollars is what it runs for. The triple hs the game denim entrance
jackets. Damn, that is fucking expensive. It looks crazy though if you
look at it here. If you chocolate is such good fucking shit, it
is expensive, man, But everything I bought from Chokoline and the chalk Line.
If you want to sponsor the show, please fucking do. Everything I
bought from Chalkolne is fucking super good quality. And they have a jacket on
here that literally looks like Bianca bell Air's sequence entrance jacket. Like it's that
looks like to it, which is crazy, dude. Every time I'm around
you now I wear the beavers and butt head shorts. Yeah dude, Yeah
those are chocolate shorts. Yeah. All the freaking shorts they have are Austin.
They have like legit like DX Jerseys would like suck it in the sixty
nine. Yeah, I think chocolate. Please sponsor our show. I love
your shit. Thank you. So, Triple HCH is walking into the building.
He's got all this bullshit on, and Michael Cole comes up to them.
He says, Triple HCH kind of get your thoughts on something that rarely
occurs. I lost by you to the Undertaker, which you're gonna have to
tell them I never lose. Triple Hch says how many days or in a
year, and Cole says three sixty five, and Triple It says, well,
three sixty four days this year I would kick in everybody's ass and one
night I have a bad night. And I'm not taking anything from Taker.
He showed the world he was the big dog, and I loved every second,
with every punch and every kicker and everything we did, I loved.
And when we go again, the outcome wa won't be the same and once
Olliver Undertaker will know that I'm the game, and he goes to leaving.
Cole says, one more question. I want to get your thoughts on Stone
Cold winning the WAF title with the help of your father in law, and
this pisses his Triple h Off. He takes his brey off for some reason.
I don't know why brey Off is serious, and Cole says, did
you know anything about it? And Triple says, what do you think?
He walks away, super foreshadowing, Yeah, super big foreshadowing. We'll get
there. Lady Trish is walking through the hallway with her strap, of course,
and Hayman says, the spanking match is up next. What they call
this like four different fucking names. It's a whipping match, it's a country
whipping match, it's a spanking match. It's a ton of fucking I think
it was just a whipping match. But then he calls a spanking match.
I think, good all day. I called a country whipping match a country
whipping matches. Of course, whatever bad he should do, I feel he
does. So we go backstage once again and Stevie Richards is in his locker
room, he's in that seventies room from the seventies show. He's in a
locker room. Yeah, they're like bukaking the camera guy. That's you know
where they do the pan on that high scene. Yes, that's what I
thought of here, because they pan the camera over like they're all gonna say
something and they're smoking a blunt you know, the the worst plumb rotation ever.
Cannon fucking Stevie Richards. Uh So, Stevie Richards is here. There's
a camera guy in the center of this boukaqih passing scene here. Uh,
and it's like it's shooting him like andre cam, Like they're shooting up at
him. It's like, uh, you know that video James did on his
channel with the weird camera filter and he was close up on the faces.
Yes, that's what this camera was like. Now, this weird bright light
on him. It was crazy looking. But well, Stevie says, when
we fall, we must get up and fight the good fight, and it
pans around showing the other right sense remembers looking all uncomfortable. Stevie talks about
them losing a mania and he says, we do not lose our convictions,
and tonight we will fight fire with fire and go after the one thing we
despise the most, the hardcore title, and we will show Kane in the
entire world just how deep our convictions run. And it gets a very close
up, fucking creepy shot of Stevie Richard's face, very strange looking. Dude.
They they they don't necessary long after this, right, They're like done.
No, it's like they few like they fuck up like they like Kane
kills them and then under like the Brothers of Destruction just fucking kill them off
here. So now it's time for the whipping match. It's Stephanie McMahon taken
on Tris Stratus. They show a recap of what happened to Mania during Vince
versus Shane. Trish slapped Vince in the face and Stephanie slap Trish and they
fight. So here we go. Stephanie meets Trish on the ramp and luthes
presses her on the fucking ramp breakout style WW two gigs yes exactly. Tris
slides in the ring and steph stomps her out and then almost blows out her
ankles. The fucking Stchkan wrestling match right here. Yeah, Well, Stephanie's
choking Trish with a strap. She gets up in the middle rope and fucking
chokes her with it. Then she has an even flow DDT damn yes,
yes, jameson here to call me on it, but you man, yes
it is. Uh. Stephanie starts whipping Trish's ass. Hayman does the Jerry
Lawler shit here where he says, all, who's your mommy? I said,
oh, brother, come on. Jess Jr. At one point called
Stephanie Miss's game, which I was like, oh my god, that's so
fucking weird, like this missus game. That yeah, Miss's game. Stephanie
grabs both of the straps and starts windmill whipping Trish crazy looking. Uh.
Stephanie then climbs to the top rope, which I have no fucking idea what
she possibly could have been going for here. I imagine she was going to
invent the double four fifty here. Sadly we did not get that because Trish
cuts her off. Stephanie's laying over the top rope and Trish is whipping her
ass repeatedly, which leads to William Regal coming out. I can't fucking believe
it. I never expected this to happen right here, right right. He
does the right thing, and it's the most fucked up Regal cutter ever.
She like bumps way too early on it. It dies. She holds Trisian
sorry, Regal holds Trisian a full Nelson. Stephanie's whipping her stomach, which
leads to Chris Jericho coming out here to make the save. Jericho runs out,
bumps Regal around throws him out of the ring. Stephanie is still whipping
Trisha on the outside, which leads to Jericho chasing her out and running up
the ramp. He said something to her when he's on the apron, but
I couldn't catch what. I feel like he calls her a horror. I'm
sure something usual like that. But yeah, so really, so far this
role is just like continuing angles from Mania. Like it's not like anything really
new yet. And I don't know if we get anything new through the whole
show, because they're doing something they're leading up to the next baby, but
I don't know where they go with this. But it's like, yeah,
backlash is like just all rematches. It feels like yeah and then dismatched.
I don't think it really, It just ends right, They don't even have
like a I don't even know, there's no, there's no. I don't
know how you win. How do you win a country whooping? Man?
It's not even like on a pole. The strap match should have been on
a pole kind of thing, but I guess it was just like it was
legal to use the strap and you just pinfall, but no one ever went
for pin No. I don't know. They show a graphic for Austin versus
Rocks Tonight in the Steel Cage with Austin and his photoshop w BF title,
which is so weird, like they did this a lot back then. I
don't know. I wasn't. It's fucking hard to get wrestlers to take pictures.
It's the fucking problem. You saw w W how they were doing it.
Guys are in like T shirts and they just put was fucked off Kevin
the T shirt book or d looking all good? Yeah, that was the
that was fu over here. Yeah, it's crazy. So we go backstage.
Stephanie is yelling at William Regal ask him how did he let Chris Jericho
fucking get out there? And also how did you lose the Chris Jericho Mania.
She was coming up with a problems right here. Uh, she wasn't
done with Trishaw and Rigo says, I'll take care of it tonight. I'll
put Darko on a handicap match with me and uh Olympic gold medalist kred angle
too. Yeah, Olympic gold medalist d Angle. Yeah, that's true,
she's a UC do it in that. So later nine to fucking handicap match.
Great, I fucking hate handicap matches. Uh. And then we go
to the ring, crash Holly already in the ring. Who is the current
light I thought he was hardcore champion, but no, he's the light heavyweight
champion. Kane's Hardcore Champions, light heavyweight champion. They just said he's light
heavyweight even though you want to be a heavyweight. It is he is he?
Oh yeah they would have they would have already done that, right,
holy Angle, Where is the heavyweight guy? Yeah? They definitely already How
it was like a big rib, right what if we give him light?
Yeah? So how long does the light heavyweight title last? For? I
feel like the title never gets a good run, Like I don't remember any
good light heavyweight champions, like talking mention Noku wasn't he light heavyweight champion or
so he was? He said, he I want to say he won the
he was like the first champ, Like, yeah, Taca Mitchianoga beats Brian
Christopher be then in the ninety seven tournament, right to become the first light
heavyweight champion. That's right? Yeah, okay, So here's the lineage.
It's Taka Christian Gilberg s a Rios de Milenko, Scotty two, Hattie Di
Milinko, and then Crash Holly, Jerry Lynn, Jeff Hardy, Xbox to
Jerry Oh wait what no, this can't be right? They changed, because
yeah, it's got to change the Cruiseway, right, Xbox, xbox is
the last one. Xbox two thousand and one SummerSlam is the last Oh.
Xbox is the reigning cruiseweight champion until losing the title to Billy Kimmon on October
ninth. Xbox was the final wrestler to hold the title. A title unification
matches Survivor series against Cruseweight champions Tagery was canceled because Xbox was injured. The
championship was removed from television after xbox injury, but we continue to defend the
title on house shows until it was officially retired on March eighth, two thousand
and two. Okay, wo wow, Okay, I guess I remember Dean
Milinko as the doo. Yeah, I remember, I remember Taka. I
don't remember Jerry In having a fucking time Crash beat Dean Malinko on Heat.
For the Jerry Lynn beat Crash on Heat, it was the Heat title.
I guess the Heat title. Put that on Heat. Make a little work
horse style party beat Jerry Lynd. I gotta see that match, dude.
Jerry lynds w WF front was super short, right, Uh it was?
He debuts on April twenty nine, two thousand and one, and he's released
February two thousand and two, so not even a year. Debuts on April
twenty nine, two thousand and one. Yeah, on Heat. That's when
he wins the title. What was he wins it on his debut. Yeah.
I want to see that Jeff Party Jerry Lynn match. Now that was
on Saver watched this. I want to see that June of two thousand and
one, right that then, because yeah, you write that down, it's
pretty interesting that. Well, there's a little history of the fucking light heaving
of the title had for a minute here April to March. Literally has it
for a month March to April. I guess that's when he has. Okay,
there you go, Crash all he's taking on Rhino. Here. Crash
challenged Rhino to this match. By the way, raw is brought to you
by foot Locker, fram oil filters and Stacker two, the world's strongest fat
burner, which Hayman says Jr. Should try something. I get it.
I get it all of a sudden, by the way, So it shows
Crash in the ring, then it shows the sponsors, and then Rhino's in
the ring all of a sudden. I didn't catch him making his entrance.
I don't because when they come back, right, it wasn't it Crashes music
playing. I feel like that was Crash his music, was it not?
I thought it was Crashes music, but maybe Rhinos. I don't know.
But right it was nowhere to be sounding no clipped into the ring and nary
ways he doesn't Yeah, exactly at uh Menia, I think Rhino, Gord
Leda and Spike Dudley. I think all the ballets or managers or whatever want
to fucking awesome match. That was though, Dude, Rhino just destroyed Leader.
I think that was awesome. On commentary they say the Hardys aren't here,
the Dudley's aren't here, and Andrew Christian aren't here. The whole fucking
show is not here. I mean that's pretty good to let him sell the
injie, you know. Yeah, well, there's not really much of this
match at one point, really the end of the matches. Crash Holly hits
a missile dropkick off the top, Rhino no sells it, stands up and
Gore's crash Holly the fucking obliviate. Dude. He beats Destroys and that was
awesome. Man, that guy was awesome. Dude. They protected the Gore
so good back then, it looked real good at this time. Listen,
if you've listened to Deadlock enough, you've heard this from me before. I
don't fucking understand how Rhino didn't get a book your push. I just have
no fucking idea. Man, Rhino was awesome. He looked fucking great,
his finish was over. He was believable, Like, what the fuck he
was it? Because he wasn't six foot? Is that what it was?
They should have let Rhino, just do the pole drive off the thing through
the table. Oh shit, to Molly Holly or something. Do it off
the backlash set with the little swinging thing. Oh shit, all my swing
and Gore, dude, how the game's never let you swing on the fucking
batch like a backlash show. I don't know. That would have been incredible
awesome here wow, Well, speaking of shit, Rhino does Molly Holly after
the match is on the top rope and hits Rhino with the Molly go around,
which Rhino fucking no cells gets up and Gore's Molly don't fucking oblivion dude,
Holy shit, let me explain the Molly ground for anybody that doesn't understand,
which, by the way, this movie is cool. Sweet. I
don't think anyone does it anymore. I don't really know anyone that does.
Maybe people do, like on a main television stage. I don't know many
it does. It does a front flip Bravey stereo style legs around the face,
you fall back, and that move looks yeah crazy sells it fucking destroy
so good. Yeah. So she dies, which really was Molly's fault.
I mean, you know, she didn't have to get her best move.
The Molley ground is sick. She could have just nodded at the Molly go
around and not got gored. I don't know, man, she's got to
protect your man crash. Her man family really really dumps well. We go
backstage and Kevin Kelly is interviewing Deborah asking her what she thought of Vincent Austin
joining together at WrestleMania, and Debora said she was just okay, listen to
this. Debra says she was just as surprised as everyone else. Then Kevin
Kelly asked if she knew anything about it beforehand, and she says, she
can't talk about that right now. You can't having both fucking ways. You
either knew or you didn't know. You can't be surprised. And then fucking
no, she didn't know, but she's surprised. She was surprised and she
knew, and she's a liar as what she is, and it's going to
be They do a screenshot recap of Vincent Austin shaking hands at Manny and Jared
says, Jank Auston has a lot of damn explaining to do, which I
guess we're gonna get a little explanation here because it is time for stone colds?
Uh? Was it inauguration here of the championship had the title even though
he had the title after the show, he did have the title of the
show. But that's a cool little thing they did. I always liked when
like because vinced on this a couple of times. Vince has done this with
the Rock. I think he did do with Rock. I feel like he
did it with Like Cane too. You should have put in a glass little
case like you always did. That was cool, dude, the glass case
is awesome that Austin to jump the barricade or driver vehicle and beat the shit
out of him. So for some reason, maybe I'm wrong. I thought
w W Shop sold those cases, which is cool. We should get those
because I do think at one point, but I don't know if they I
don't know if they still do. Yeah, that was crazy. Imagine those
are a fucking bitch the ship. But yeah, those are cool as fuck.
I like those a lot. So Vince comes out with the WIF title,
Vin says in a moment the official presentation of the WIF Championship empany and
he couldn't be Uh, he couldn't help a detect or on a few boo
booze when Stone Call's name was mentioned, and quite frankly, he doesn't appreciate
it. And sometimes, but sometimes it doesn't matter what I really appreciate.
I am perplexed though, because of Rustlemania when also one the title, you
all cheered, So I don't understand why you would continue to cheer in sports
Stone Called after always done for you, why you wouldn't continue to cheer?
Excuse me? Which is true? They fucking still well they're in fucking Texas.
I don't know what they're expecting. So Vince fucking rambles on forever here
talking about everyone. Uh. He says, Austin didn't do anything that any
of you don't do on a daily basis, which has kiss your boss's ass
is yes you do, yes you do, So don't blame Stonecold for doing
what each and everyone you do every day for doing what I do to become
w a champion. Then Vince introduces Stone Cold and Austin comes out with a
fucking disturbed song, which I god, damn, I love this song,
dude, such a good song, A tremendous and Austin comes out and Hayman
says, say something talk damn it and he's talking to JR. And Hayman
then goes on a fucking big spiel. He says, quit being a damn
cry baby. You want them to win the title. He broke his neck,
he had spinal surgery, he wanted the title. Well he got it.
Why don't you be happy for your friend? And Jared says, why
are you kish my ass? Good? I was like, well that's he
stops talking at they why don't you kiss my ass? He just keeps that's
it. It shuts Himan up. Yeah, dude, Austin's out here with
no knee pads, by the way, which is real, cursed as fuck,
knee braces, nothing, He's got nothing, just knees, shorts,
knees still functionable. At this point I think maybe maybe not fucking weird as
hell. Yeah, you're right, Yeah that was cursed. Well. Vince
uh gives the title to Austin. Austin takes the beout, snatches it from
him. Oh no, he takes about poses in the corner with it.
Then he takes the mic from Vince, and Vince looks afraid because he snatched
it out of his hand, and Austin says, now that I got what
I wanted from WrestleMania, and now I got Vince McMahon in this ring by
myself. If you want me to whip this, some bitches ash give me
a hell yeah. The crowd goes hell yeah. They're like, oh fuck,
he's just gonna turn right back. He's like, I heard you give
me hell yeah. They give hell yeah. Austin looks and he says,
well, it ain't gonna happen tonight. Damn dude, if you would have
done that would have been incredible. Turn right back. I wonder how that
would have went over. It probably don't mind. Will just fucking because it
probably would have saved a lot of business. Yeah, dude, that would
have been crazy. Auston says, uh, Like, I'm supposed to grant
every single little wish. I'm supposed to let you people feed off of me,
sponge off of me like a bunch of parashots. And you know what,
I look out here and you people are just the same people at the
airports and the little people at homes watching their cut a little TVs. They
can wash stone colde. Why, dude, if you ever watch like recaps
of like this whole turn and everything, you'll all you'll hear a whis don't
go why why I think on the smack Yeah, you're right, you're right,
dude. It's also the crazy and hilarious that Stocal calls it a colored
TV. You're little people at homes watching your little colored davy. What the
two thousand and one? What do you still got a black and one CRT
in his house? Do you think Austin here cut a you people promo?
Come on, paople, Yeah you people, Well you know what. I
sit there and I say, how about a big explanation and a real slow
one for those here in Texas? But the way shot up? You a
little bastard, all that everyone out here know that I can all that everyone
out here? No that I can whip everybody in that stands ass anyway,
I don't know, you know, explanation since you want a chant, Rocky,
Rocky, I got something to say about that too. Rock You come
out here like you're some kind of big shot, tough guy, and you
put mister McMahon and a sharp shooter. Miss you missed out to the great
line that aust which one? He says, he little mealy mouth bastard.
You always you used to say me, mouth bastard, mouth bastard. That
was like his heel line. You're right, that's something you just don't do.
So then Iraq, when they dropped that steel cage, don't figure on
Stonecobe being champion for twenty four hours. You can walk your carcage out here,
raise your eyebrow as many times as you want. Stone Colle is gonna
bounce your candy ass around that cage. But don't figure Stone Colle. Ain'tcobey
champion. You say, figure Stone Colle here, don't finger Stone code.
Don't you're doing. But basically, that's all I got to say about that,
and that's it. And Vince says that that's step bottom line because don't
oh because because mister McMahon says, so, I originally think that was like,
this is our line. That's all I gotta say about that, And
then McMann would close it with that's the bottom line. That was like their
heel thing that I think they were gonna. Yeah, that was their big
evil thing. It does feel so fucking weird though, I mean like even
this far out like fence in Austin, feuding is like that's like wrestling.
To me, it's yeah, oh my god. Still like I was like,
man, what if you That's the biggest what if in wrestling is what
IFTL would have just turned his back right back on Vince there, and it's
crazy, like it's it's one of those things. It's like, you know,
like uh like people like stuff that didn't happen, Like did Austin and
Vince have to fucking team up? No? Am I glad that I saw
it happen. I kind of am, just because it's something like, you
know, it's that would have been a what if, Like, oh,
what if Austin and Vince teamed up together? Okay, well we know what
happened. It didn't fucking go well for the business, but there was some
entertaining shit from it. When they get into the whole stick of it with
Kurt Angel and the funny comics stuff really good. That was like, but
turning like stone cold, going from like the biggest ass kicker world beater in
the world to like Vince's bitch is like, Oh my god, that is
especially weird in hindsight when you're the only wrestling company and you're like killing your
top baby face of all, Oh my god, and Rocks leaving Rocks leaving,
and then like most like Taker and Kane were doing a tag thing.
I think, right, don't they do Brothers Brothers are Instruction? Yeah,
yeah, exactly, Yeah, and then you know later with Triple H is
going out of his way to make sure Jericho is not a top guy.
Yeah, so it's like who is on top? Like Angles soon gonna be
there. I mean they had to do obviously, I mean spoilers, Triple
A just still fucking heal at the end of this. Yeah, they got
they got to do the invasion stuff, but there's like literally after this,
there's like no challengers for Stone called Steve Auston. Really no, no,
there's not, there's not. And then you know, like they it's it's
r whatever whenever they get there, I don't know, Well they that's a
one off off. Yeah, so I don't even know they Vincent's music hits
in him and Austin uh leave. They showed Triple H on the monitor backstage
He's not happy, and they also showed Rock on a monitor backstage as well,
just in a much smaller locker room which seemingly in a basement. Up
next, we got val Venus Versus Kane for the hardcore title. Of course
RTC trying to win the hardcore title to get rid of it. I guess
yeah, are gonna take the one thing they hate the most is hardcore wrestling.
I guess get sure. Which. By the way, they should have
all just jumped in destroyed right away. It doesn't make fucking sense. It's
hard They should have all just just maybe they have morals, right, I
guess our, don't you know what that's fair? Maybe they are, but
they you know, pile driving China, they weren't really morally right. Uh
well, Stevie Richards and Valvin has come out there both have trash cans.
Hayman's on commentary saying I bet you wish they censored Steve Auston and Jared sais
wyn't you showt up about Austin and Haymon said, you're always like I love
Steve Auston and Jessh's we are owed in explanation by God by somebody for Shumpton
and Cane's coming out, and JayR is still fucking pissed. Game comes out
Jesse's and you know what, You've better learn a step off, Jack,
or you're gonna be back in the bingal that's only shit. Kane gets in
the ring and Valvinus immediately fucking brains them in the head with a trash can.
He man, no Dudleys, no edging Christian, No, Hardy's triple
h isn't working, Undertaker's not working. Uh, they get this match too
much, dude. Match felt forever. It felt way longer than I was.
I feel like it felt like the only reason it didn't get my deadlock
plus ten of the night is because it was a hardcore match and I was
hoping they did some cool spots. But they don't. They don't not even
like I don't know how much you want to recab this match, but I
some ship. But yeah, Kane doesn't even win by his like finishing move.
Fucking he went at the Cane clothesline. How much they don't care.
Also as Valvetus. By the way, this is from the start for the
hardcore on. Valvinus is here. Yeah, put Stevie in there at least
or something. Go on fucking hell man, Yeah, I mean they do.
They do some stuff like it's really just hitting each other in the head
with trash can lids and stuff. Stevie gets obliterated with a fucking big boot.
They're braining each other with trash cans and trash can lids. Cane,
it's all the sidewalk slams and they just do all the like. Valviers does
no moves. I don't think he does the even flow. And that's it.
That's the only movie fucking does. Yeah, and I even wrote time.
I was like, I was trying to figure out why they gave this
so much time, but deb was like, yeah, the half the fucking
shows not here. I'm like, oh my god, you're right. Kane
goes up top Cane clothesline. Kane wins. I said, what the fun
was so fucking weird. I like that I missed something because I like looked.
I was like, yeah, that's that's what happened. Yeah, that's
okay. All right, Here comes the good Father and Bullby Cannon to fucking
save the day. They come out RTC is stomping Cane out in the corner.
Then Undertaker in bandana vest and leather pants jogs down to the ring to
make the save. They choke slam Valve Venus, and then they both choke
slam good Father and Bullby Canon at the same time to really drive home the
point that the right descents are a fucking dead suit look, and then they're
teaming up Cane and Taker again so that they can have some tag team to
go against Stone Cold later and bunch of shit like come on, yeah,
I mean it's pretty much just the invasion team that they're building for here.
Yeah. Yeah, they set it up like dude, man, like it's
like now WrestleMania at then the rafter Ustlemania they always have like they abuse and
like crazy shit. Yeah, they did not have the hindsight back then to
like maybe you know, some of these WW guys we should bring in like
tonight as like WF guys or do some Yeah, there's I mean there's there's
build here, but there's nothing that's like you need to watch next week.
The only thing that there's a reason to watch next week is because there's nothing
else on ww's dead. Yeah. I mean they build like after the main
and the you know, the Sweyut show, but they don't have any like
uh, it's like it's like normal programming, you know, day to day
w how do you get to the next show, how do we get the
next pay view? It's not like, oh, this is a big this
is like a milestone moment where like, Okay, w sw's over, we
have to like make something crazy, like yeah, we have a fucking crazy
thing right now where we can shift all of w CW's viewers, which it
wouldn't happen anyway, but they know, but they could. They would have
immediately. Are you trying to get some shit on there? To get anything
that w gonna be other than what happens on the show with w c W,
which is very little? You know, they could have did something like
you know that you have like one chance to make a good first impression for
like spend some money in good book or t out here now exactly. Bro
yea man, get ddp out here. You're somebody man, you got all
these guys' Well, we go backstage again and Triple ch is walking backstage and
he runs up to Regal. He's where's Vince? And Regal says, I
can't tell you, And he says, where's Vince. He says, you
mean mister Rogan. He says, no, I mean Vince, my father
in law. Holy shit, you look like a JAVRONI here man. Well,
REGOs says, I don't like the tony of your voice, Sunshine,
so you better come it down a bit, and Triple says, I don't
care what you think. You lie me, piece of crap. Jesus,
if I find out you knew anything about this, I'll kick your ass.
Now, where's Vince? And he says he's in catering. So we go
to catering and Vince is getting some coffee and catering and trip Lates walks up
to him and says, you and I need to talk. Yeah, you're
keeping me there dark on stuff. And Vnce is easy and trouble like slaps
the fucking coffee out of his hands in his kind says, don't tell me
easy, don't tell me easy. You're gonna keep me in the dark on
things. Huh, you want to let me not know what's going on my
stuff like this like scutters and what he says. You're gonna let me not
know what's going on around here, dude, it's exactly like extending from him.
Jesus, you're gonna you're gonna do not let me. You're gonna let
me know what Austin just went to hell. It back fun each other beat
each other's asses for a year, and you're not you're gonna let me not
know. Leave me Jesus. After the coffee goes flying like one hundred miles
an hour out of his hand. Right to Censor, I thought right to
Censor was dead. Fuck bro that he just got real fired up, like
he didn't know what to say. So we just starts just yelling super flushed.
Yeah, yeah, you would let me know that what's going on?
What stuff? Like? Well, Vinces, I didn't tell you because at
the time I didn't think there was any of your business. And Stone Cold
asked me from help and you didn't. All right, stone Cold was a
winner and you weren't. And Vince walks off and triplings and smashes a bunch
of what salt and pepper package or some they gotta keep telling him and they
sucks and he's a loser. But whatever, Well, you know, it's
uh for shadowing, for shadow Then we move on to a hand mecap match
Chris Jericho taking on William Regal and Kurt Angel. Of course cash All GTX
presents Backlash. What is the backlash card? Do we have that here?
Yes? The tag match? I think it's Taker and Cane versus Austin Triport.
Well, all right, here we go. Uh, backlash is Jerry
Lynn beats Ash Holly in the Dark Match to retain the oh No to win
the Wait what oh that's a heat match. That's the Heat so he beat
debuts there? Wow? Okay, Lyda beats Molly Holly on Heat X Factor
beat the Dudley's Rhino beats Raven for the Hardcore title or to retain it.
Regal beats Jericho in a Duchess of Queensbury rules match the Ultimate Submission thing,
right, whatever, Jericho, that's that's Ben Juan Angle next? Yeah,
okay, Ben Juan Angle thirty minute Ultimate Submission match which went forward to three
in overtime, which was in a video game? What game was that?
It's in a couple of them. It's in the SVRS for sure, Yeah,
I remember um. Shane mcmanon beat the Big Show on the Last Man's
Standing match. Matt Hardy beat Christian and Eddie Garro to win the European title.
Uh. And then the main event, which of Spoilers, Stone Colding
Triple Hs become a team here a two main power trip of Stone Colding Triple
H beat Kane and take her to win the tag titles all the title were
on the line. I think the if Kane Taker won, they would have
won the ic in WWF title. Okay, wow, yeah, which is
I don't know who? I guess they who have Kane surely would have been
WWF champion. Right Wait, how did canyan Taker just win the tag titles?
Because they aren't. Then they just do TLC and then nothing happened,
and now they just their tag tamps now the whole like TLC match that was
like the greatest match of all time, they just moved on from that.
Fuck, you're right, they just they just they need to put the belts
on Cane And oh yeah, when did they win these back? Here?
I guess you know what? Not? I guess if you know, the
teams were so beat up after the TLC match, they could we let's see,
they brothers are so edge Christian went them on April first, Taker and
Kane win them April seventeenth. Wow, so yeah, not didn't we had
a shift? Sorry, we had a good day. I guess they couldn't
just have Austin and Triple Edge beat Edge. Christian wasn't big enough match.
So they did that, But then they put Christian in that three way match
and the European title at back last. So yeah, and edgesn't on that
card. Is could hurt maybe because maybe that's the Edges injury that makes a
return or whatever and it comes back. But I feel like maybe they were
all beating up the Dudleys. Seem like they were. They stayed around,
right, yeah, they're yeah, that's right. Yeah, Wow, okay,
interesting stuff. Wow. Yeah. You can still see chop like marks
on Regal's chest from his match with Jerichomania, which is nuts. They chopped
that a hard in man. I really want to take this time here to
talk about how much I don't like watching handicap matches. No, they're they're
so boring. They're so boring. If anyone can point me to some good
handicap matches, because I'm sure there have been some good ones, but like,
man, these matches fucking suck. They just it's just like whatever,
who you know what I mean, Like it's it's there, there's not really
much to it. I'd rather just watch singles match tag match handicap matches.
I understand why they're there, They're just fucking boring. Oh, the greatest
handcap match was Scott Hall and Kevin Ashparus, Randy Savage, Sting and Lex
Lugar Beast the Beast. I guess that's okay, Well, I host,
I'll take over Christie Rody Pipersiky's Team Oversus, Jimmy Snooka? Was that a
handicap match? Was a gauntlet? I don't know. This is just a
list of the best. Okay, the Rockets, Cold Verse, the NBO.
That was like a SmackDown, I think or something. But in my
mind, what makes these great? Because in my mind I can already see
these all going the exact same way where its heat heat, heat, heat,
heat, and then to come back Rock and Sock first evolution. I
guess that was a good one. Oh, that was a good one.
I like that one. Randy Orton, Verse, Cody Roads and Teddy Bost.
I don't remember that one though, but I do remember Rock and Socking
Evolution. That might be the best one. Doesn't match, Yeah, that
might be the best one. So they all right, I'll take that.
So Jericho is just trying to fight with them. He does a triangle drop
kick to Regal to pump him off the apron. Just a lot of bumping
and tagging in and out Regal gets into the ring. At one point there
was are actually a pretty cool versal here. Kurt goes for a German on
Jericho. Jericho cuts him off by like hooking his legs around the back of
Kurt's legs and then rolling through, which led to Jericho putting Kurt in the
walls. And then Regal gets in the ring and kicks Charco like right in
the fucking throat. He was fucking brutal. Rego hits a double underhood suplex
off the top to Jericho, which was awesome. Jericho eventually hits the ropes,
which leads to Kurt smashing him in the back with a chair from the
floor, which referee doesn't see. In the Regal hits the Regal cutter to
get the wind. The Regal cutter is kind of fucked up he did earlier
and now you're doing it here. It's kind of a fun like I like
the move has I love that move. I love he almost does like running
kind of which is kind of weird because yeah, like he wraps your arm
and runs and y like he clothes on yourself or something almost but cool fucking
move. Still cool movie. I was expecting the Regal stretch, but we
don't see the regal stretch here. I don't know, no regal stretch here,
but they do. They do fucking stomp Jericho out here. Hayman's his
Hey, how about how is that that's how you break the walls down?
I said, Usten, you break the walls down. Just broke the walls
down. Vince must be fucking shouting at him. Uh, Kurt puts Jericho
in the ankle lock and crisp and Wah comes out to make the save here.
Uh, he bumps everybody out, and Jericho and ben Wald then stare
at each other for an uncomfortable amount of time. Well you see here.
He doesn't like Jericho there, folks, but he doesn't like Why is the
stare down for so fucking long? I felt like there's supposed to be a
replay in there, and then eventually they do do a replay, and then
they're still staring each other down after I don't know. They're explaining in a
commentary he hate Tango, but he doesn't like Jericho. I don't know a
parent's team or whatever. I don't know, yeah whatever. A limo arrived
earlier tonight New w w FW, York and it's Shane McMahon with a big
fucking shiner, his eyes fucked up. Would he get hit with at the
pay per view? I don't know, Vince's fist, maybe vincetone and fist.
Gotta give you that shiner. There's a lot of work. There's trash
cans and stuff in there too. I don't know. Maybe the limos Vince's
throw a right and fucked him up. Oh yeah, Well, the Slam
of the Week was brought to you by castraw GTX, which is Edge doing
the big fucking spear off the ladder that Jeff Hardy. It craziest. It's
still one of the craziest spots of all time. Now correct me if I'm
wrong. I don't know if you'll know this. Maybe somebody else can correct
me. I swear they did that spot before Mania, just the Mania one
is cooler looking. When I swear they did it in the No Mercy match.
They might have I don't recall, but you might be correct. Someone
can tell me otherwise. I don't know why. I might be making it
up. Maybe I tried it in a fucking video game or something, But
for some reason, I feel like they did it before this and I remember
seeing it and being like, holy fucking shit, why did this not get
as much attention? Yeah? You might be right, it might have.
I don't know. It felt like, for some reason, it felt like
that title belt and the tag match was way higher than it usually is.
I don't know, maybe it was. Maybe it was like I thought,
if they did it in the one where they did the Jeff Hardy animation,
yeah yeah, yeah, maybe someone can can or will watch back, but
I swear they did it before. Maybe yeah, crazy, I mean all
time or fucking spot that uh, unreal, unreal, and like it's just
so like the gigantic crowd and like you see all the fucking the flashes from
the cameras happen done in the cell to the way that Ed sells it and
everything sits up like he's dead too. So it's crazy, super super fucking
cool. Um, And now we move on to this is so fucking I
mean, they explain it, but I'm like, holy shit, the one
Billy gunn versus X Factors Xbox, Yeah, yeah, this is fucked up.
On SmackDown, Billy Gun and Shane were talking to each other. Oh
my, very controversial. We did this. We did we we watched I
think we watched a SmackDown because we we watched something. It was either a
SmackDown or a or something, because I remember, like I remember the hard
he's talking to him. Yeah, Shane talked to various wrestlers. Okay,
sure, maybe right, I have normal why Billy got single out here?
But okay, you know what, maybe it was because maybe we did the
Go Home to Many seventeen. Yeah, I think we might have. But
yeah, why Billy got singled out? I don't know. Well, yeah,
so Billy and Shane, we're talking to each other, Hayman says,
Ah. Shane obviously trying to recoup people to work for the other Thing company,
and this match was booked by Vince because of that, which, in
my mind, I feel like Vince should be begging Shane to take Billy Gunn
take it, Take the fucking one out of here, Get the fuck out
of here. We love the one Billy Gunn here comes fucking x POC was
just incredible on Albert, two bald bastards. That's not even their song here,
Well it's do is it? Doubt paying for all? You think they're
paying for Uncle Cracker? Why didn't I didn't know if this was like og
og X factor that didn't use that yet. I was they used it,
they just didn't deal with the X factor. Is Uncle Cracker still rocking,
still cracking? I don't know, dude, Crack. Let's see what was
this last fucking his name is Matthew. I don't want to know that Everything
twenty twelve was his last album. What does Uncle Cracker do now? He's
touring across two countries and has thirty one upcoming concerts. What the fuck?
Really? That's what I said, Cracker, And the first thing that comes
up is what does Uncle Crocker do? Now? Okay, fair enough,
that's a great side. Uh so they do a bunch of bullshit in this
match. Xbox sits Billy up for the bronco and actually does hit it,
which is a reverse think face of course, right, Tony, sure,
yes, of course. Uh Billy Bumps just incredible on the apron. As
Justic Gruble gets on the apron Billy Bumps him rough is distracted by just incredible
on the apron selling Billy hits the X Factor on Sorry Billy, It's a
famouser on Xbox, which leads to Albert coming in and hitting the bald bomb.
Uh, and Xbox gets to win because of this, and then they
run a fucking train on Billy Gutt and Albert hits a running splash and then
Incredible on Xbox hit the double super kick. Yeah, I feel like I've
seen x Fuck and Billy Gunn have like a million matches throughout the attitude are
like with the d X feud and all that you're right, feel like,
yeah, you're right, Like this is just like unrepeat. They could probably
pull out a match anytime them too. After the match, Hayman says,
and the message has been sent. No one gives a fuck that Billy Gunn
wants to go to w CW. No one cares, Dude, he was
gone the topic. Guy, he's gone the top WW Recruit DVD and not
sorry sorry it's Billy Gunn and only Billy Gunn because they haven't recruited anyone else
yet. That's true. Well, they show uh, Shane at New York
signing a bunch of shitties high finding high fiving fans earlier earlier in the night,
leading uh, you know, hyping up that Shane is gonna talk from
w New York. Sure can't wait and we go back to the arena and
they as we talked about earlier at the top here, they show shots of
them setting up the cage, which I thought was super fucking cool because I
think that rarely happens, like you said, Tony, like it's usually just
hanging above the bill. Yeah. Anytime, like I've been to like live
events or like, uh, you know, raw or something, I see
that they don't announce the cage, but you see it up there, like,
Oh, what's gonna happen? What's going on? Right? They kept
us in the dark years, which is gonna go When their cage was in
two parts, tony ours was in three. I don't know how they build
a cage so fast they're understand Yeah, I don't get it. I mean
ars, I feel like they got ours up pretty fucking quick. They did
pretty fucking well because we had a lot of people too. They had a
good system there, so they build it all and then they took it apart
in sections, which made it like yeah faster, which is kind of cool.
Yeah, shouts out to the deeper crew. But yeah, I just
saw, you know, seeing them. But I always like that stuff,
Like I always like, uh, season we used to do this, which
was cool. They would um, they would keep hardcam on for the building
of the Cage of Death, and then they would do like a like I
don't sped up version of it showing it being built. Oh yeah, which
I was all time lapse thing. That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I was like, LA, that's right. Yeah, yeah.
I like the cage dropping with them. Oh the cage music is you can't
touch the cage music. Yeah, it's gonna believable. Yeah, getting ready
for this crazy match about to happen. So they show a screenshot recap of
the Shane Vince match from WrestleMania and then we go live inside of New York
with Shane McMahon. Dude, I okay, by the way they do this,
uh the recap of the match to Shane vincing. They're doing commentary on
the match. Jr. Is putting over the uh what's van daminator? Van
terminator? What's called terminator? Right, the van terminator. They're putting this
over as JR. Is saying this is the greatest movie he's ever seen in
his entire life, with Paul Hayman sitting right next to him. Yeah,
I know, I know it stole that from rock band. You know,
Haymon was pissed. That pissed. That pisses me off. That's called the
Coast to Coast. I can't stand that ship man. I mean I get
it, but and Rbdy only Rbady shows up like in two months. Yeah.
It was hilarious though, because I just knew Hayman was like fuck they
like probasely, like I got no vince. It was like a rib probably
on him, and like, yeah, they definitely told Haymond before the show,
if you called Van Terminator, We're gonna fucking kill you. Let's show
this and make him call it and say it's the greatest thing he's ever seen
in his life. Yeah. Up, that was fantastic. Jared says,
I hope you can hear us. I know you got a lot in your
mind, cover your street fighting mania, the situation with your mother, and
your other projects with WCW. That's like a Q and eight question asking all
the questions that once Shane said last night was awesome. You know, as
it relates to my father, I'm a little conflicted. It's unnatural for a
son to beat on a father, and it's unnatural for a father to beat
on a son, but I'm happy my mother was there. There's also a
crazy echo during this. I don't know if anyone in the fucking building can
actually hear Shane. Yes, So the way they have it, Mike,
just like it's to the w F cameras, but it's also to the live
crowd in the New York thing too, so the New York crowd can hear
him too. But they're also fucking excited to be on tele But it's on
a delay, right or something, So it's like the feed to the camera
is faster than the feed to the live crowd, and then the live croud
is fucking happy that they're on TV and they're just channing like w c W
Shane can do. Yeah. Not, There's there's probably maybe a handful of
WCW chants in the history of life, Like that's not a chant you hear,
No, they to be honest, I don't think w c W crowd
was really chanters. I don't remember them chanting a lot of things in WCW.
I think besides Goldberg that was about the only shore. Yeah, that
was only because they force fed that with you know, that's a fucking crazy
point, Like you know, there's even during in ring promos, there's not
like maybe you suck chance maybe yeah, but not like there's no like asshole
or anything like that like that, maybe towards like the brussou Arab maybe with
maybe yeah, because you know, they just copied Vince, But mostly it
was yeah. This is the first time I think I've ever heard in my
life w CWZW. It might be the only time that was crazy. That
was insane. Uh. Shane says. The one person that's supposed to love
my mother unconditionally he is my father, and the only person my father loves
is himself. And then they chanted w c W I. She says.
Now that mania is over and my mother is doing okay, we are talking
about WCW and that's what I'm focusing on now. Things are starting to shape
up nicely. Stay tuned. Things are going to get very interesting. And
this time, Dad, if you can hear me, I hope that mom
kicks you in the place that hurts a little bit more than the gonads.
I hope she hurt you in the checkbook, which is I think that happens.
Rights do they do? The is the divorce thing after this or heads
that already happened. I don't know because I'm so confused because Vince wants a
divorce, but then he doesn't and he goes with Trish and then all this
I don't know Shoulder wanted divorce. I don't remember whose divorce divorce. I
remember that they ever actually get divorced, though they always wanted divorce, but
they never. I don't well they are now I want or are they?
Brother? Maybe not brother? We go backstage. Michael Cole is interviewing The
Rock and Cole says, Rock and he just stares at the floor forever.
I don't know what happened here. Line yeah, line h. Cole says,
considering the shock at Mania and the comments of Austin, and Rock cuts
him off and he says, stone cold, you don't want to give reason.
The Rock knows why you did what you did, because you know,
deep down inside, one on one man to man, you know, damn
well, you can't beat the Rock, stone Coal. That's something ates you
openside. You gave the Rock all you had, and after every chair shot
and stunner, the Rock kicked out, and after every kick out, the
Rocks saw the feet on your eyes. The Rocks saw a look of relief
when Vince McMahon came walking down the aisle. So, Austin, if you
got the guts, if you got the balls to meet the Rock in the
ring the night with the State of the Mind and the Rocks and Austin you
say you don't know the people anything. Well, the Rocos the people something.
He owes them whipping your candy ass all over the low Star States bringing
us to our main event here, which just before that, they show Austin
hanging out between two trailers in his gear with the belt. That is what
the fuck is he doing? Like if they would have got if it would
have been a little bit earlier when he wasn't standing there, but when you
started walking and it looked kind of cool, it was like a shot I
don't think I see usually the camera is usually pretty low for shots like that
too, which is something I I guess I never consider. Like the creative
direction for for WWF, especially at this point, is it's pretty fucking on
point. Yeah, they can make anything of backstage walking area. Like we
said, uh, back in the day they had just pipe and drapetage,
but just having the two trucks was guy the coolest by, but they have
people like Dayo scouting locations. All right, we'll do a walking scene here,
we'll do a thing here, we'll do here. That's all. We
need to do that more. Yeah, we need we need more time on
our hands. We need more people. Well, it's time for the main
about the Rock versus Stone Cold WF title on the line, steal cage match,
and Vince comes out and introduced the Stone Cold to the ring. After
the Rock does his entrance, and the Rock is not letting Austin get in
the ring. He's fucking standing right by the cage door. The Rock tries
to get out of the ring to leave to catch Austin off guard, but
Austin slams the door into his head. Oh god. They start fighting around
the ring, around the announced table. Austin is throwing them into the fucking
cage wall. Rock is fucking bleeding good juice here. I love a good
Monday night, raw juice, good stuff. Austin, by the way,
isn't really getting booed that much. I don't think. Yeah, No's They're
in fucking Texas still, man, it's crazy, it's crazy, crazy jed
here. They're still cheering for the Rock. A little bit though, but
they yeah, the rock they really aren't they They're not yet. Yeah,
they don't dislike either of them. Yeah yeah really. So we get back
into the ring. Here, Austin Slingshot's Rock into the buckle and then hits
him with a spinebuster like slam that Jr. Called, which is a spinebuster.
Vince hands Austin a chair and Austin does the wrestling seventeen chair spot on
Rock again, just fucking pounding away at them, which rockets Austin and Sharpshooter.
Vince eventually gets into the ring, but the ref is distracted because of
this. Austin is tapping out in the Sharpshooter in jars slipping. I've never
shooting that before. Austin is chapping Rockets a spine rust In Austin. He
throws the elbow pad over the top of the cage to do the people's elbow,
which I love that I don't That was so fing cool. Rock pins
Austin and Vince. Paul was the ref out of the ring and he points
of the reference, don't do that. Tim White shoves Vince down, though
by the way, he shoves him down to the match does Vince is not
out there now speaking to Tim White. Tim White the first referee to go
into the WB Hall of Fame this year. That's awesome. He's going in,
shouts out Tim White, shouts out to all the Tim White segments where
he tried to kill himself. That's not that was awesome, great fucking angle.
Uh so Tim Whit gets him back in the ring. Rock gets the
rock bottom on Austin one two. Vince fucking attacks him White. That's it
all his shit, man, Come on, dude. Rockets up, stops
Vince from leaving, and he throws Vince into the cage. Uh. He
fucking closes the cage door, jumps on Vince, crazy style punches him on
the ground, flips him off. He goes for the rock bottom on Vince
when Austin low blows him, stomps him out. Vince beats up Tim White
and here comes Triple a cheese pissed game. He's peeling off four layers of
the jackets. He's taking off everything. He's got the sledgehammer, all thirty
of his jackets on the floor, lined up on the ramp. As he
comes down, Triple Age gets in the ring, pushes Vince out of the
way, goes face to face with Austin, and then Triple Age hits Rock
with the sledgehammer. Oh so a bitch, Josh, and please don't tell
me Triple A joshonn All. On the same page, Trubla is just slamming
the sledgehammer into the Rock's chest, punching away at him as Austin stomps him
out. He throws Rocking in the cage, pedigrees Rock. Austin fucking hits
Ropen does the fuck you elbow drop. There's no fucking finishing this matches there.
They just fucking whoop his ass. Yeah, they do not, They
just call it. I guess the matches it's over. They don't really do
it because the rap is out. Yeah, Tim whites down, no contest,
nobody wins. I guess Rock wins by default. Maybe I don't know.
Interview I guess yeah. But it was no dy q in theory,
so I don't know how that works. But Rock is fucking bleeding Triple As
picks Rock up, Austin flips him off, hits a stunner. Triple h
and Austin both do the Austin lay down and talk shit into your face thing,
which is howk crazy visual. Austin calls for a beer. They all
three beer batching the ring by the way, Yeah, good throw from Mark
Mark Eaton, I want to say, sounds good. He's eating those beers,
I know, yeah, eating the market. It was a marking.
It was marking. Good for me and JR. To take it home,
says I cannot believe this. The Ronald Snake, the game and the boss
are one vial, ugly, nasty page and what are we gonna do about
it? I was like, that is such a fucking awesome call. It's
so fucking sick. They are a two man power trip right now? What
a gr name? Yah? Yeah that is good. But also if you
think about it in hindsight and you look back at the business, this was
a very WCW heel ending. Yeah. Connection, But like anybody, that
would be wrong. Anybody that would have hated the bullshit of WCW and the
heels always going to like get something different. Maybe they saw this and they
probably just didn't want to come back, which is fair. Now, you're
right, but you're right. I would have tuned in to see where this
is go, which I did. I did tune in to see where this
was going to go. I mean I was still an avid fucking watcher here.
I mean, nothing was stopping me from fucking watching. No. I
think I think you know, the angle goes somewhere. They they it's interesting,
to say least first time over. They're teaming up Austin Seel all that.
But I'm just saying, it's like a if you're just a WCW fan,
he's like, Okay, my my brain, let's try this out.
How to watch raw in a while. Let's try this out and then fuck
bro. So in terms of ratings, here Raw five point six five for
this Raw okay um, which is the first time they've gone unopposed in fucking
however many years. Right, oh yeah, other than like you know,
the preemptive bullshit. Right. So they go from a four point seven the
week before that to a five point six five, then a five point four,
a five point zero five, So they stay around there for a while.
Then in May it drops down to a four point five. Then by
June we're at a four point two. They're bouncing around. October they're at
a three point nine. Yeah, so it's it's, uh, you can
slowly but surely through the year of two thousand and one, you can see
that things are not going well. Yeah, they got some of those w
CW strays to come over to watch at the beginning, I feel like and
then it just that five point six five was definitely like you know, curiosity
right, like, yeah, you had to see what's gonna happen and I
and another thing was like they didn't really even once mentioned WCW at all,
Like they could have been Shane, they could have done like oh well,
now, Shane, you know they didn't even do like a WW went out
of business last week. We're on a point. Well, like Shane said,
Hey, if you're a w CW fan, you're gonna want to tune
in next week. Oh just so you know, by the way, the
week after this show is the Lend of Divorce segment. Oh okay, Yeah.
Land Storm makes his first wrestler appear running during a match on May twenty
eight. War Humors made his debut on June fourth by attacking Edge, King
of the Ring Book or Tea gets in the triple Threat match. So must
have legit just been they don't have guys sign they have just have nobody.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I just looking at it the
way I see it, they should have at least had a graphic or you
know, recap. You know, Nitro went off the year. I guess
they didn't need something something they really I guess they didn't even have the tape
library, you know, from what I'm hearing here. No is they just
own the name in the logo, right. They couldn't even show like the
final Nitro footage or anything either, Is that true? I guess. I
guess so. I mean they did that, you know, the simulcast thing,
but I don't know how that worked. I guess that's like w w
F Television, like that part of Nitro. I'm sure it's owned by WF
because they were there, like Shane shown up. I don't know. I
just feel like that whole You're right, there's something to grab the w CW
fan. Definitely, I don't know what it is. You know, obviously,
you know, hindsight is fucking you know, twenty twenty. But like,
surely it could have been something anything to grab that attention of the w
W fan that would be tuning in for the first time. However, Vince
probably was just kinda let's take a you know, like let's uh yeah he
was probably the we won the war who let's never mentioned ww ever again,
we just put that copy out of business. I don't know, but yeah,
yeah. Kind of crazy though the way they ended this, and you
know, but yeah, super it's just so interesting to like see how a
raw after WrestleMania is here compared to what it is now. Like this is
like there's like nothing going on here really like it. There's some fun stuff,
I like, but like, you know, there's obviously where they're going
for backlash, but nothing like crazy like no big debuts or anything like complaints,
like ten years later they're doing like all that shit, right yeah they
uh again, Like I said, this was just like business as usual and
the up and you're like, okay, there's the next story line, yeah,
which is kind of crazy, but yeah we get to the invasion eventually
in the summer, and sure it looks a while, but we get there.
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