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Speaker 2: What kind of a show you guys putting on here today?

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Speaker 1: You're not interested in art?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: No, Look, we're going to do this thing.

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Speaker 4: We're going to have a.

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Speaker 3: Conversation, hey, film spotters. With Mother Mary having just been released in theaters expanding wide this weekend, Yes, it is an A twenty four film, we thought it might make sense to share our A twenty four draft, Josh. We did this back in twenty twenty two to honor the distributor's tenth anniversary. And when Sam first suggested this, I thought, well, I got to go back and look at my list and see how bad it is, see how much trouble I'm going to get in for making dumb picks. I also have to see how I fared in the poll, because my recollection is that when we ask listeners who won the draft, Josh or me. I thought I lost, but I couldn't remember by how much, Like was it a drubbing or was it fairly close? You know, in these polls when we do Josh versus Adam things, I tend to do pretty well. Not that I'm counting or anything, not that it helps me sleep at night or anything. Huh. And I thought, I really need to check this and see before we air this how things played out. I know you're not looking you. You don't even know where to find that pole anywhere on I forgot we did an a twenty four draft exactly. So I looked, what is your guess in the question who won the eight to twenty four draft? Josh at them? How that poll came out percentage wise? Oh gosh versus me?

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Speaker 1: So as you've been talking, I've been looking in my files because I really did not remember this, and I thought, what in the world did I even did I even pick? And I'm seeing that I should have won this. But oh yeah, okay, I pulled a bit of a dirty trick, Yes you did, which I wonder that you acknowledge that if there are some listeners who held that against me and they're voting.

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Speaker 3: No they didn't. That helped it win.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it worked, So so I'm I then I feel even better about my strategy.

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Speaker 3: So what's your guess? What do you think the results were?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I thought you just said so I didn't win.

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Speaker 3: I want to know the percentage? What do you think it came out?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You do this wacky things where things are like weighted and it's it's like week sixty seven is low stronger than a five point.

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Speaker 3: Several hundred votes, no spreadsheets, several hundred votes. You have a certain percentage, I have a certain percentage. What do you think your percentage is?

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Speaker 1: My percentage of the vote for seventy six?

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Speaker 3: Wow, very confident in yourself. But you're not You're not that wrong. Seventy three percent. You crushed me. You crushed me in this a twenty four draft. So as you as you listen to this for the first time, listeners, some of you, as you re listen to this, I guess I guess you can try to determine. I mean, was my draft really that bad? Or was Josh is just really that good? That's the key question.

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Speaker 1: Let me look, I'm looking I looked at my picks. Let me. Look at your picks.

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Speaker 3: I when I, I mean revisited them. I didn't think mine were that bad. But I can see why you won. I can see why you won.

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Speaker 1: No, they're not bad. And what I love about this, what amuses me is like the pick. This is why these draft formats are so ridiculous. Your number one pick I like way more than my number one pick.

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Speaker 3: See I knew that too, but I I played the strategy. I played the strategy to hurt you, and you played the strategy to hurt me. But only your strategy paid off with the audience.

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Speaker 1: Don't make me, don't don't make me be bad, Adam. It's not my inclination. But if you forced me to do it, you like.

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Speaker 3: Me when I'm angry. That's that's what Josh just said. Yeah, well, after all that preamble, I hope you now will enjoy this a twenty four draft as much as Josh, I was gonna say, enjoyed crushing me. But he took no pleasure in it until now because he didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I forgot all about it.

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Speaker 3: What is a movie draft? And how are we going to approach this well? With a twenty four celebrating ten years this year. Actually, our PA, Betty Lavendero, who suggested we should do our top five a twenty four films and myself, you are producer Sam All seemed to think that was a good idea. And I think I was just a little worried, as I often get with top five lists, that the picks might be a little bit too obvious. And in some cases, maybe we're talking about films we've talked about a lot over the years in recent years, and that still may happen to some extent. And I know we diverge on some of these films, but we also have a lot of overlaps. So I was a little bit worried about how a top five list would go. I was trying to come up with a new take on the top five for this A twenty four celebration. And I don't know, Josh. Maybe it's that there's preseason football training camps in full swing. My lone fantasy football draft that I am part of every year has not been scheduled yet, and maybe I was missing it. And it occurred to me, let's do it. Let's not do a top five, Let's do a movie draft. We each get ten picks and at the end of this, our teams will compete against each other in the form of a listener vote deciding who selected the better team.

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Speaker 1: So ten picks. That was my one question. Yes, we're getting a little sportsy here. I jettisoned fantasy football from my life about six years ago, so I'm a little rusty on this, but I think I have the general idea. The other question I had for you, Adam, is how many spreadsheets did you create in preparation for this?

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Speaker 3: I wish I had had time to prepare more. I'm sure you do, because I may not have created a spreadsheet, but I do have a word document that might have multiple tables in it.

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Speaker 1: Tables. Now you're gonna tell me the difference between a spreadsheet and tables.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm fascinating. There's really no difference. I essentially copied a spreadsheet into a gosh, and I really was as I was doing it, lamenting that I could have spent another day or two preparing for this and trying to anticipate your picks. But I don't want to get into it too much because usually with our top five, Josh, we do devote a fair amount of energy to talking about our criteria. Yeah, how we've formed our list, and it feels like maybe we shouldn't do that with this list because then I'll know your strategy and we are competing against each other.

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Speaker 1: Wait, we're supposed to have a strategy. We're supposed to.

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking about strategy since you okayed this topic.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay. I will look at my single Google doc here and the one list on it and try to devise a strategy from that. You may have wasted your time trying to anticipate strategy.

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Speaker 3: You've always been a go, buy your gut kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's my strategy.

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Speaker 3: Probably what you were preparing for, and it will probably pay off. We should also note that we're not only thinking about ten years of A twenty four, but their new release, Bodies Bodies, Bodies, opens this weekend and a review is coming next week here on the show, Josh, you have had a chance to see it already. Maybe it'll even sneak in to this draft. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, You'll just have to wait and see.

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Speaker 3: You definitely don't know.

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Speaker 1: That could be the key to my whole strategy. Give me a second here to add Bodies Bodies Bodies to my list.

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Speaker 3: This is how seriously I took this list. I almost called some of our favorite trivia spotters to see if they wanted to do a mock draft with media.

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Speaker 1: Prepare not surprised at all, but.

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Speaker 3: I held back. Josh, I held back. So we have one bit of business we have to take care of before we start doing our picks. Now, you do have experience with various drafts. I don't think with just two of us we can pull off a serpentine. I think we're just gonna alternate picks here. Yes, please agreed, Okay, but we do need to decide the draft, and rather than just flipping a coin, I thought we should get creative with that too, and we kicked around a few ideas. Our beloved quiz master for trivia Spotting, Thomas Todd, had a great idea. We certainly have experience with this before, Josh, you quite famously got asked one of these tiebreaker questions. We had two teams tied at the end of our Zoom Movie Trivia maybe a year or so ago, and the two people competing have to provide a numerical answer. Whoever is closest wins.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to force me to RELI have a traumatic memory atam. No, this is part of your strategy, I see, yeah, to get you unnerved. I can only hope this question is about dinosaurs.

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Speaker 3: Me too. What we're going to do is we are going to call quiz Master Thomas Todd. We are going to have a little chat with him, live on air, and he's going to ask us an a twenty four related question with a numerical answer, and whoever is closest gets to go first. Are you ready? Got it? Here we go a first here on Film Spotting?

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Speaker 1: Hi Tuck, Hello?

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Speaker 3: Is this quiz Master Thomas Todd?

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Speaker 5: Is this Kamanar from Film Spotting?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 3: Indeed? Of course, Josh Larson is here with me, and we're ready for our twenty four draft. Except we don't know who is picking first, and we are relying on you, Thomas, to help us decide that.

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Speaker 5: Well. I have just the thing for you. I have a numerical tie breaker of which I will read and you and Josh will be able to guess as close as you possibly can to the correct answer. And whoever is closer doesn't matter higher or lower. We don't play prices right rules here will be the winner of the first pick in the A twenty four draft.

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Speaker 3: Great, let's do it. Jock, got it. How are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling very confident. I'm glad he clarified. We're supposed to choose closer. That helps me a lot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So I'm going to give you an answer with a numeric or a question with a numerical answer. You write down your answer, and I'll be calling on you for your answers after about fifteen to twenty seconds, so you're not going to get too much time to deliberate. So here is your question. I made it a twenty fourth centric about a movie that I know you have both seen. Here is your question. What is the listed run time of the twenty thirteen Tom Hardy vehicle Lock. You have fifteen to twenty seconds to answer. And yes, the word vehicle was in there intentionally, So we're looking for the run time of the twenty thirteen film Lock.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, it's an accused. You get accused sometimes of catering to me with your questions. I should absolutely get this, and it's where we go more when I don't get it right, however, you get a joke Josh about Locke.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say whatever the running time is. In my head, it was much longer.

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Speaker 3: I want to win this question just so I can pick Locke first. That's my strategy.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm might be I'm hoping you win.

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Speaker 3: Actually, okay, I have an answer in mine. I'm ready, Josh. Are you ready with your answer? I am okay, We're ready, Thomas.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Adam, what is your response?

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Speaker 3: My response is one hundred and two minutes okay.

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Speaker 1: And Josh's response eighty four minutes.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So how much time did Tom already spend in that car on his way to spoiler alert?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 5: One hundred and two for Adam, eighty four for Josh. The correct answer one of you was in within one minute.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately for you, Adam, it is Josh. The answer is eighty five.

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Speaker 1: What, Holy cow, that's almost as fast as a t Rex.

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Speaker 5: Is absolutely redemption for Josh.

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Speaker 3: Good, I am crushed. I am crestfallen. We're off to a terrible start with this draft.

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Speaker 1: Should we rethink this show? Adam? Do we want to just scrap?

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Speaker 3: We might start over the whole show? Well, thanks for nothing, Thomas.

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Speaker 5: I do, but I can Adam nothing if not consistent.

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Speaker 3: All right, we will see you on Trivia Spudding soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Thomas, no kidding. Eighty four was the first number that popped in my mind, and then I was wavering further and further away from it. If you'd given us five more seconds, I would have gone quite far from eighty four.

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Speaker 3: I just assume every movie made over the last ten years is at least one hundred and two minutes.

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Speaker 1: So that's safe. That's safe.

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Speaker 3: Well, then you have the first pick in our eight twenty four draft, Josh, what movie are you selecting? The suspense is killing me, Adam.

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Speaker 1: I'm first going to give a little bit of criteria, a little bit of strategy here. I'm not going to tell you I have some I did give this some thought. I just it's not like I just rolled out of bed ten minutes ago and I came up with three approaches I could take. I won't tell you which one I'm going to take. I don't even know which one I'm going to take, to be honest with you. We'll see how this develops. But I did think, first off, right, you could go just personal favorites I want to grab. If I've got these films ranked. I want to grab as many of my top ten as I can. That's one option I could prioritize just trying to win this Adam versus Josh contest, which would mean, you know, pandering a little bit, trying to predict what the crowd wants more than maybe what I like. Going that route one option. The other one I thought of that is kind of appealing to me, but would have required more preparation.

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Speaker 3: What if I want di meing me, isn't it making me miserable? Is that option three? Yeah, trying to take all my favorites.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's embedded in all of them actually. But the third one was which would probably be the most fun, but would require maybe a spreadsheet. Is programming an a twenty four film festival. So say A twenty four said, we're going to give you ten ten titles. You can't have them all ten titles for this film fest? Which ones do you want? Then you're crafting, you know, a weekend experience for the attendees. That one sounds the most fun. Maybe I'll lean that way as we get going. But at the top here, Adam, some men just want to watch the world burn. I'm going with Ladybird.

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Speaker 3: So you went with option two and a half, which was you're just going to try to destroy me with your picks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it feels fun right now. We'll see how long that lasts.

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Speaker 3: I know this isn't your favorite a twenty four film.

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Speaker 1: Who said that's my strategy?

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Speaker 3: It should be part of your strategy. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Ladybird, A huge fan of Ladybird.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, Thomas Todd destroying the movie draft with that question. Okay, you don't know where to go from there?

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Speaker 1: You do, I don't.

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Speaker 3: You're taking Ladybird one, You're taking.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking Lady Bird one. It's a really good movie, one of our best young filmmakers. Why would I not want? Why would I not want Ladybird on my team? Why are you surprised by this?

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Speaker 3: I agree? Okay, I see how it's gonna be. You're gonna be ruthless. That's what I'm in for. And you did perfectly lay out exactly the three different approaches. I considered, just go straight my top ten favorite, knowing that you'd probably take a few of those and it wouldn't be the exact top ten. But go with my favorites in order or try to win the popularity contest, try to go with what I think more film spotting listeners and more people on Twitter might prefer. Or I could think about it in terms of a sort of diversity of films and film type and act as a programmer. And I've got ten films over the course of two days or three days, what would make for that best lineup? And I'm gonna tell you, Josh, I want to pull off all three. In my perfect world, You're the wild card and you have already hurt me, You've cut me deep. But I want to pull off all three. I'm going to have ten films that I love and feel strong about. I'm gonna have ten films that I think are going to be the list that takes down your list popularity wise, and I think they'd make a fantastic film fest.

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Speaker 1: You want it all.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if I can live up to that and I can pull off something so audacious. Again, I am off to a rough start. But what's interesting here, Josh, when we talk about those different approaches and strategy, is that Ladybird's my clear number one favorite. But if I had the number one choice, I was gonna go with X Macina. Mmmm, and X Macina is going to be my choice, And the reason why is I was going the strategy route. I thought that Ladybird would survive a pick or two. I thought I could get it at two. And I know X Macana is the film from A twenty four that we both have rated the highest on an end of year film list. I had it at number two back in twenty fourteen. You had it. I believe it is your favorite film of that year. So I thought it was going to be your choice, and I thought if I could get to it first, that would help set me up for future picks. And I suppose in some way then everything worked out the way it was supposed to. I just wasn't counting on Ladybird being your top one or two to choice. X Macan is my pick, though Alex Garland, one of the filmmakers of let me look at the list here, I believe it's seven or eight who are reoccurring collaborators with A twenty four, and that is another thing I considered or will consider as I go through my picks. Actually it's eleven, and I may be off. I've got eleven names who have made at least two films with a twenty four Alex Garland is one of them, with x Macina his debut as a director, and more recently from just this past year. Men, it is a film that we've spent a fair amount of time talking about since we had it so high, and you think back, Josh, to the science fiction aspect of it, but the way it subverts a lot of our expectations, the way it becomes a movie, like all of the best Side five movies, though, one that is fundamentally about what makes us human. And it's a film that is enigmatic enough, straightforward enough, but enigmatic and mysterious and heady enough that it keeps you guessing even after the credits start rolling. And the more you think about it or return to it, the more you find your allegiances or your sympathies shifting towards different characters, whether it's Oscar Isaac's seeming villain, Nathan, or our seeming hero or the protagonist, Donald Gleason's Caleb, or it's the machine herself, Ava played by Alicia vakandor Caama.

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Speaker 2: You're wrong, wrong about what Nathan in what way?

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Speaker 5: Yes? And your friend.

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Speaker 7: Excuse me, I'm sorry if I don't understand.

00:21:29
Speaker 1: You shouldn't trust it.

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't trust.

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Speaker 3: Anything, he said. I think for all of those reasons. It's certainly one of the richest and most rewarding A twenty four films, if not the most.

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Speaker 1: And it sounds like it holds up. It's funny, Adam. I just someone tagged me on Twitter. I'm looking it up now. A Jack M. Silverstein at reed. Jack, just a couple of days ago said, revisited Xmockinoff for the first time in a few years. Remains just as hypnotic and fascinating, so that's good to hear. I haven't watched it again in the last couple of years. Doesn't surprise me, though, I am surprised that this is your number one pick after the would be Ladybird, of course, and it does hurt. You're getting a little bit of revenge here in that personal list. This is high up there. As a matter of fact, if I look at my star ratings for this is kind of how I tiered things to help me organize my list for A twenty four films, and on my website, I have a four star system, only three A twenty four films have gotten four stars. I'm not going to tell you what the other two are. X Makana is one of those three, so good pick excellent film among their best. I wish that I had it, although it does help me clarify where I'm going at number two, because I did think as this list formulated, I was going to have to have could not bear to lose both X Makana and After Yang from this year. Coconatus film one of the other three four star movies I've given to an a twenty four release, and they're very different in ways I think we touched on in our After Yang review approach. This AI question and what does it mean to be human? Questioned from different angles, have different esthetics, different performances at the heart of them. So I don't mean to say that these are the same film in any way, but they are two speculative science fiction movies about artificial intelligence, and they are both just incredible. As I said, I needed to have one of them. So I'm going to have to take After Yang here at number two, and I feel good about that. I thought that would be an early one we'd fight over, so I feel good that I'm going to grab that one here.

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Speaker 3: It is fun to think about those films as a double pairing. Maybe we won't pull off an A twenty four festival someday, but if we're programming another double feature somewhere, watching those two movies together, considering the different approaches, the way that Cocinata is so sensitive and insightful and incisive and sweet, and then you watch something like X Makina that has a little bit of menace to it, it also wants to frighten you a little bit. Very different films, but fundamentally approaching the same topic.

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Speaker 1: I think of them in terms of texture almost. I think of after Yang as dealing in fabric and ex Macna dealing in metallic surfaces. That kind of sums up to me the distinctions between the two, and there are many.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I.

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Speaker 7: Loved that so much. I loved that so much. Somehow that is all in this team. Somehow that is all in the over and over again. I watched it over and over again. I would like to watch this movie. Well, maybe we can do it together. Yes, that would be nice.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what movie to pick next. I was afraid that this would happen, Josh, that I'd be sitting here, and I'd be looking at at least two movies, maybe three, and would have a hard time making the call. I'm going to go, Oh my god, I don't know what to pick. See I take this way too seriously, Like this is so hard.

00:25:44
Speaker 1: Can you imagine being in a real draft room.

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Speaker 3: It's between two movies and I'm trying to decide which one you're going to take first.

00:25:49
Speaker 1: Now that I've introduced chaos into this, you don't know where I'm going to go.

00:25:53
Speaker 3: I had a movie slotted in here as my number two or three pick, and I'm going to go off the grid just a little now, not the grid in terms of expectations, but just in terms of being slightly down further.

00:26:07
Speaker 1: You're abandoning strategy already.

00:26:10
Speaker 3: Yes, I am with the number, with the number two pick.

00:26:13
Speaker 1: What if I've done to you?

00:26:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're you're not going to be able to begrudge me this pick and you will understand, Okay, the choice. I am going to go with the Best Picture winning Moonlight.

00:26:27
Speaker 1: Smart from Barry Jenkins. Yep, Verry Smart.

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Speaker 3: And I'd love to tell you why I made that choice over another film, But if I do that, then I know exactly what your next pick is going to be. So I'm going to I'm going to hold off, and I'm going to hope that somehow it falls to me With my third pick. Moonlight, though one of those films that I remember from our top ten roundtable that year, like we do every year, the only film I believe that year that made all four of our lists. We always have on a couple guest critics as part of that roundtable, and I was looking back Josh at my notes. I don't know if most people feel this way in terms of the three sections the main character, three different points in his life, and if we all have the favorite, there's a consensus favorite. And I know Sam our producer, and I have the same favorite, though they're all three very good, and that's the final one and what will always remain with me. And there's so much that's memorable about that Barry Jenkins film is just the simple conversation and those close ups as we watch Travante Rhodes and Andre Holland, and that was the first time I'd seen Andre Holland on screen. Same is true for Travante Rhodes and now I love especially when I see Holland pop up in a lot of other things, but the Rhodes character is someone who is so tough in terms of his disposition, how he presents himself to the world. And as he has this reunion with this man from his past then a boy, you just kind of watch him melt as they catch up, and there's so much subtlety there, but you see so much complexity in the range of emotions that that character is experiencing in that moment.

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Speaker 1: What's You's you look at every light?

00:28:33
Speaker 7: Then oh what you just drove down here?

00:28:39
Speaker 3: That's true, Yeah, like you was just it was his own one and you hit the highway came yeah.

00:28:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, Moonlight is one that's just grown and appreciated my appreciation over the years, though I did, as you said, like it quite a bit when it came out. I always will think back on the swimming lessons slash Baptism segment, which, as I'm looking at my A twenty four film ranking list here, I think that is just the If you could just excize certain sequences from all of these films I have here, and you had to choose one that was your favorite, that represented your favorite film, that sequence alone would put Moonlight at the top of my list, so you guess correctly. I was going there next. Very frustrated. I see what you're doing. I see this. I'm thinking now about the poll Sam put out there testing the waters of favorite a twenty four titles on Twitter, and that you have snagged right now two of the three listed in that pole. So you should feel good about where you are. I think it was Xmachina, Ladybird, and Moonlight. I feel really good about that Ladybird Chaos pick now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm still going to fall asleep every night for the next few weeks being haunted by you taking Ladybird from me. It doesn't matter if I crush you or not in the listener bowl. My list will not give me the satisfaction that it should without all.

00:30:19
Speaker 1: Right now, kind of making me feel bad. Let's get back to our picks.

00:30:23
Speaker 3: Okay, you're number three.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: I feel better about this. I was going to go Moonlight on my next pick, but this does give me the opportunity to grab two of the three films I've given four out of four stars. Two first Reformed, it's the last one. Really didn't know, didn't have a gut feeling how highly you would have put that in your order, Adam, there was a chance you could have taken at number one, well two, let's say, yes, chance you could have taken the number two. Also a chance maybe there are others that was squeaked past it and would have fallen. I could have waited, possibly for First Reformed, Paul Schrader's best film that I've seen little to fall in my lap, but I don't want to. I'm going to take it now. It's going to be my number three pick. I'm happy to have it there. I think after Yang and First Reformed, already, I'm feeling good where I stand, And yeah, it remains for me Schrader's best film. Ethan Hawkes certainly a top three performance from him, if not his best that I've ever seen, and just one of those that is haunting in a different way than something like Moonlight, that sticks with you and seeps into your consciousness to disturb it, to trouble it the way Schrader wants to and intends to. And I think it's his most successful film in trying to do that for viewers. So that's going to be my pick this round. First Reformed. Can God forgive us for what we've done to this world.

00:31:57
Speaker 8: Who can know the mind of God, but we can choose righteous life, believe forgiveness grace covers us all.

00:32:18
Speaker 1: I believe that.

00:32:21
Speaker 3: Both of our top ten list that year, I had it at number four, you had to just hire at number three. You certainly weren't off base, though in terms of being very high on my list of possible choices in this draft, maybe more in the five, six seven range. I knew it was one that you had very high, as I recall getting that perfect score. I didn't know that it was only three, but that sounds right, and I had a feeling that First Reformed was one of them. Absolutely a great pick, and although I'm a little bit heartbroken to not be able to select it, you are giving me a chance to now have on my list two of my three favorite eight twenty four films. I hesitate only slightly in choosing it, Josh, because you can make the case that it's perhaps a little bit too similar to my first choice x Makina, in that it's another film that is science fiction in scope and in style, though unconventional certainly in both of those regards, and it is again very much a movie about what makes us human. And that is Jonathan Glazer's Under the Skin. I'll space them out over the course of the weekend at my film spotting a twenty four festival. It's unconventional, I said in its approach in terms of it being a movie very devoid of process for a science fiction movie. It is also odd and that it's set in the Scottish Highlands, but the way Glazer captures it makes it seem almost otherworldly, just like the main character that Scarlett Johanson plays, that predator character that she is. And it's also a movie that makes great use of non professional actors and actresses, people who actually I don't even know if you can call them non professional. They don't even know they're being filmed in some instances. And there's an immediacy to it and an intimacy that is striking and it lingers. And while it does all of that, manages also to say some really interesting things about how our culture treats women and.

00:34:50
Speaker 2: Chrches. I think I'm appreciate a lgious.

00:34:56
Speaker 5: Definitely.

00:34:58
Speaker 2: Good.

00:35:00
Speaker 3: It's a movie that I don't think I've seen again, Josh since twenty fourteen, and it's partly because the movie does leave you so uneasy, but it's absolutely a unique cinematic experience.

00:35:13
Speaker 1: Under the skin. My number ten film of twenty fourteen, So just correct my top ten list that year, which is a sign that it is pretty high up in my ranking. I don't know if I would have gone with it next, So I'm a bit relieved. It does open the door for one. I'm gonna start jumping around a little bit. I think here based on where I think you're gonna go. Now that you have those favorites secured, that opens the door for me to grab one. I know we both love You want to guess where I'm going.

00:35:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know where you're going. Where You're not going to change your pick? Right?

00:35:51
Speaker 5: No?

00:35:51
Speaker 1: I no, No, if you say it, I'll pick. I'm picking it either way.

00:35:54
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're you're going Kelly Riker.

00:35:58
Speaker 1: No, No, But that was you're gonna grab it next. So now I just lost that. But I still I'm a man of my word. I'm sticking with the Florida Project. Okay, I just again that scene of Willem Dafoe lighting a cigarette against the purple hued backdrop of that motel, Well, this moment of quiet and peace and then those lights going on right afterwards, the coordination that Sean Baker manages there, the writer director, the imagery of that film, and then this story of a young girl growing up, this transient life, this overlooked life, this dangerous life, harrowing life, and that's one that sticks with you. And I think is I need to have it on my list, and I like the variety that it's bringing to my list to this film festival as I'm looking at it now. So yeah, I'm the hesitation in my voices because I know you're going to grab first Cow, but it's too late. So I'm going to stick with the Florida Project at numbers.

00:37:09
Speaker 3: It's a good choice. It's a good choice, and I had it very high. It probably would have been my next choice, Josh, if that makes you feel any better, But I am going with Kelly Reikert, my number two film of twenty twenty and one of our best American filmmakers. One we've talked about a lot on the show over the years. One we've had on the show twice actually to talk about certain women and also this movie. First cal I love everything about the visual choices she makes, the way she downplays nature using that four to three aspect ratio, just like she did in Meeks cutoff the soulful performance of John mcgero, which was one of my favorite performances of that year, kind of an unsung actor and that great friendship that he has with the King Lou character. It's a movie that's about history, and it's about legacy, and it's about capitalism and of course fundamentally about America, and she's one of our best filmmakers at exploring that entire complex tapestry. Kill me. Do you know what a klawfoo tea is?

00:38:25
Speaker 5: I do?

00:38:27
Speaker 3: Could you make one a good one? He loves a clawfoo tea? And well, i'd like to.

00:38:34
Speaker 4: Humiliate well without fresh raspberries or apricats, I'm not sure.

00:38:43
Speaker 1: After you tried ivery, it's so good. And also I'm looking over at the list here, not many period pieces, it seems like in this lineup there's a handful, But I like the variety that that brings. Would have loved to have been able to add first cow next, but I can't. All right, So there's a couple here I really want, but I'm pretty sure you're not going to take unless you just try to screw with me. Which is possible.

00:39:11
Speaker 3: It's possible.

00:39:12
Speaker 1: So I'm going to pick one that I'm surprising myself a little bit here, and I'm picking this based on the expectation that when I revisit it, which I am very eager to do, I am going to enjoy it even more, which will be saying something because it's currently on my top five of the year so far less pretty high, yep, looking at that now, it's my number two film of the year right now. Absolutely enjoyed it, could not keep up with it, and so I do think once I can just sit down and not worry about trying to keep my bearings, I'm going to pick up on so much more incredible stuff going on in everything everywhere, all at once. From the Daniels, I think I'm going to be able to enjoy the performances in it, which we both already praised, but again with all of the effects coming at you and the not even time travel, what is it, multi universal travel, that's something I think you can savor performances a little more on a second run. So I'm looking forward to that. I'm not even that worried about picking up on all the logic and trying to figure that out. It's more all of the jokes I'm pretty sure I missed, and then letting that overwhelming emotion, which I did feel a first time, but I had to compartmentalize with the trying to keep up with the plot. I think that will be able to just pummel me even more strongly. So it's an anticipatory pick everything everywhere, all at once. I think I'll feel good at the end of the year having revisited it, looking back at my draft and saying that I grabbed.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: It such a success story for a twenty four and have been gratified to see how popular that film has been. And I expected that it had a shot at your list, Josh, my number five pick. This is now where we're getting in the territory where I'm less concerned with what I think you might do, and I'm more focused on the movies that are my personal favorites and maybe even thinking about that film festival approach. I'm going to counter your Florida project with one spring Breakers. Oh come on, I'm putting it on my list. Have you revisited it since? No, No, I haven't, and maybe I won't, maybe I shouldn't. But you talk about moments in A twenty four movies that as their own little films define A twenty four or are among your favorite That alien character is one of the most fascinating creations of any kind in any A twenty four film own.

00:42:18
Speaker 5: Who Are You?

00:42:20
Speaker 7: My name's Aileen, my real name is now but should be told I A'm from this plane as y'all alien.

00:42:30
Speaker 6: Than I.

00:42:31
Speaker 3: You know, I'm glancing back at what I said about it when it made my top ten in twenty thirteen, and I had this warning for all of us. If you want to show future generations where the United States of America was at in twenty thirteen, plug spring breakers right into their skulls. And of course it now seems a little bit quaint to imagine that back in twenty thirteen, Josh, we were so chaotic and unhinged as a country when we think about some of the years that have followed. And yet it felt very appropriate, at least to me back in twenty thirteen.

00:43:10
Speaker 1: You are tempting me. This may be a trap. I'm starting to think you're setting a trap and forcing me to pick the true film that does what you just described so much better, that is more recent that I know you're not going to pick because you weren't as much of a fan. But I think I'll be able to get that a little later, unless unless you make a spie pick later on here. So I'm gonna hold off. You're tempting me, you're pushing me. I'm going to go in another direction, and I'll do that after the break. We need to we need to pause here, Adam. I need to consult with my scouts. I need to rearrange my draft board. Then we will be back to finish up our A twenty four draft.

00:43:51
Speaker 3: There's a great evil three the many verses, and you maybe you'll only chance of stopping it.

00:44:03
Speaker 5: You.

00:44:03
Speaker 1: I am really good.

00:44:05
Speaker 4: I don't believe you.

00:44:08
Speaker 3: We get back into our A twenty four movie draft, commemorating ten years of A twenty four releases with some of the trailer for their recent big hit and Josh's recent selection his number five choice. We are making ten picks. It is a film of the Year candidate for many people. I said it was a hit currently the number two highest rated film of twenty twenty two over on letterbox. So you got box office success. You also have critical acclaim. It's A twenty four's highest grossing film ever, making over one hundred million dollars worldwide. The film's just behind it. Two of them have already been picked in our draft Ladybird Moonlight one hasn't come up yet, and it would be a real shocker if one of us didn't go with an ari Astor choice. As we get back into the A twenty four draft, Josh, you have the next pick.

00:45:04
Speaker 1: Hmmm. I don't know that's will ari Astor gets selected. We'll find out. I'm not gonna select him right now. I can tell you that I'm trying to recalibrate here quickly recapping so far I have on my team Ladybird after Yang first reformed the floor to project and everything everywhere all at once. As you said before we took our break, this is getting more towards personal picks, but also I got a lean towards the ones that I think you might take as well, save those really personal picks for the end. I think at this point I am going to go with the Green Knight. I'm taking the Green Night. Also, I believe a top ten pick for me the year it came out, which was that just last year? Yes it was, I believe it was squeaked onto my list at number ten, The Green Knight. I think David Lowry's existential medieval epic is another haunting, lingering one. I guess it's a period piece. I like that in the mix, and I'm looking at it with the rest of my choices. I like that a lot. I like how this is shaping up night at number six.

00:46:22
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I may betray something here, but there's another title from A twenty four with Green in it that I would be picking ahead of The Green Night. We'll see if it makes my list. Okay, here to make my number six selection. If this wasn't radio, I would just put up the Adam Sandler meme right now of this is how I win. This is how I win. This a twenty four movie draft with my selection at number six of the Saftie Brothers uncut Gems. It is going with my previous fix x Makina, Moonlight, Under the Skin, First Cow, and Yes, Harmony Kareene's spring Breakers. I'm going with gems. The saf D's are one of those collaborators I mentioned, one of the eleven I counted who have made multiple films for A twenty four that includes Good Time with a very good Robert Pattinson, and Sandler has never been better than he is in Cut Gems, a movie that came up recently, Josh as we were paying tribute in some bonus content for our Patreon members, talking about James Kahn paying tribute to him, and it's certainly true that there is no Uncut Gems, There's no Howard Rattner character without CON's character in the film from the seventies, The Gambler. And I think most people when they recall their experience or experiences with this movie, think about how intense it is. They think about the jitteriness of the camera, they think about the pace of it. And that's all true. And one of the things I talked with the Saftie brothers about when they were on the show is that they found a way to keep that intensity and keep that pace up and have an actor who almost like an athlete the athletes. He revers or at least really enjoys gambling on. He kind of slows everything down. It's like the whole world is moving in slow motion for him. In Sandler has a kind of odd serenity to him. For a character who is always in peril, it always should be uneasy. Somehow, he's a man who embraces it. And that's the conundrum that is Howard Rattner and uncut you down?

00:48:38
Speaker 2: What do you want?

00:48:39
Speaker 4: I don't make your bet.

00:48:39
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I got to change in bet. I got twenty one thousand dollars if she added on to the nineteen mass forty thousand dollars off, Scrap the whole bed.

00:48:46
Speaker 1: Scrap the whole bet.

00:48:47
Speaker 3: I want to make a six way parlay Celtics six is gay.

00:48:50
Speaker 1: What's the line? Go plus plus one? Okay?

00:48:52
Speaker 3: So I want the Celtics to cover.

00:48:54
Speaker 1: I want the Celtics halftime.

00:48:55
Speaker 3: I want Garnet points and rebounds, Garnet block shots, Celtics opening tip. Do you take lightning bets? Yeah, but you don't want any pull the lightning gats. Come on one thousand dollars a point.

00:49:04
Speaker 1: Okay, good picks. That's gonna help you might make up for the Ladybird. Snap fo. I actually on my rankings here, scrolled right by it. This is where I need the spreadsheets, Adam. It's actually ranked a little higher for me than the Green Knight. You know, I'm so happy with the Green Knight. But yeah, I think that pick is going to help you. People do love that film, all right, So, boy, you just spoke so lovingly about Marcel the Shell with Shoes on that, even though I had it ranked lower on my list than a number of other titles that are left, I'm tempted to go with that one. That would be two films from this year for the film Festival. I don't know if that's so great, But I don't know that there's another. It's a combination of live action and stop motion animation. Is there another a twenty four animated film? I'm looking over the titles now, I don't think so Do I do it? Adam, Do I do it?

00:50:08
Speaker 3: I had a feeling you might, and you can make a strong case for it, not only because it is a strong movie, but if you're programming that fest having an animated option, something that's as sweet as Marsha Sell the Shell, but but also as poignant as that movie is. Yes, I'm gonna I'm going to push you to make the call.

00:50:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now I'm now I'm second guessing.

00:50:29
Speaker 3: It because this because I'm trying to seize you.

00:50:32
Speaker 1: Obviously, in this grand strategy of yours, it works better for you I don't care, though, I don't care. Let me lose. I'm going to lose, and I'm going to enjoy Marcella Shell at my film festival. That's my pick.

00:50:45
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's fitting because I'm going to follow up your last pick with a pick that I think only myself and maybe our producer Sam would make. Certainly at number seven, but I think even here in the top ten. But as I said, the list has to feel personal. These really do have to be among my favorite eight twenty four films. And I adore Noah, Boundbacks While We're Young, Oh, the bound Back, The Bound Back, and I think it's the only comedy certainly I have on my list. I tried to break these movies down, at least in terms of all the twenty four films I've seen by genre, to have some of that representation. And you can call spring Breakers a comedy While We're Young definitely is. But otherwise, Josh, there aren't a ton to choose from. Maybe get Sophia Coppola and on the Rocks in there, if you want to call that a comedy. But I look back on this film and probably relate way too much and more than i'd like to admit to the Ben Stiller character. I think all of us of a certain age may have that feeling. But I want to say this is not the first great Adam Driver performance I saw, or at least the first Adam Driver performance I saw that put him on my radar and knew that the man had a lot of talent. But it did make an incredibly strong impression and set the table for me for enjoyment of so many other performances that have followed.

00:52:19
Speaker 1: I remember when the song.

00:52:20
Speaker 3: Was just considered, but it's working.

00:52:24
Speaker 1: Remember he's looking to have this opportunity.

00:52:26
Speaker 3: You're freaking Josh red Pash. My name's have so much better when you say it. He's someone who I feel about watching the same way the Stiller character does, where you almost do want to just suck up his life force. You want to devour it because he's got such an energy about him and seems to be so not jaded, uncynical. There's something really attractive about that, and attractive about his confidence. But then he also says and does things because of that confidence and that energy that drives you absolutely crazy. So I love Driver here, but I also think it's incredibly funny and I also think a lot of the comedy stems from Boundback's filmmaking, and that was something I noticed as a trajectory with him. I want to say, starting back with this movie, where the comedies maybe don't strike you as the major bound Back films, And yes, I'm quite deliberately referencing a famous line from the Jeff Daniels character and the squid in the Whale. Maybe they seem more lightweight not only in their subject matter but their visual style compared to films like that one. But I really think that so much of the humor derives from camera choices and editing choices, and it's something we even saw later this same year from bound Back, along with Greta Gerwig collaborating on Mister Samerica. A great year for bound Back. While We're Young is my seventh choice.

00:54:01
Speaker 1: So when you're programming your festival, can you do me a favor? Program While We're Young and spring Breakers back to back so I can just go enjoy a nice meal, take a little break, come back and enjoy the rest of your films.

00:54:13
Speaker 3: I get that, but I think I would realistically put it probably right where I just put it, which is after uncut gems. We can all decompress a little bit. Maybe we go first col before that, then we lighten up and laugh while we're young to be.

00:54:30
Speaker 1: Fair mixed on both films. For me, I'm not a hater of either, but yes, certainly not as big of a fan as you are. It's time for the Witch, Adam, It's time. I knew you know, very slim chance you were going to pick Robert Egger's horror film following a deeply religious colonial family who unwisely leave their village to begin a homestead out alone at the edge of some very terrifying woods. I just revisited this maybe two or three months ago working on my book Fear Not Christian Appreciation of Horror, and it holds up in so many ways, the layers, the ideas that it is exploring the craft with which it's made, and that it's probably the third time I've seen it, maybe the fourth, and it still scares the crap out of you, even if you know what's coming. It comes back to that craft that Eggers has, I think, where he's gonna just close that vice on you and make you think you're in mortal danger even though you've survived this movie. Once and you're pretty sure you're gonna survive it again. It doesn't matter. That's the experience of watching The Witch.

00:55:43
Speaker 5: Ma Ma Ma Ma.

00:55:45
Speaker 1: Like Felix, if you are wicked to see it, you speak.

00:55:49
Speaker 5: To this.

00:55:52
Speaker 1: This wildness will not consumers.

00:55:57
Speaker 3: Who's there.

00:56:00
Speaker 5: Is cursed this farmer.

00:56:07
Speaker 1: Eggers has given us two films since, both of which I've liked. I think The Northman not a twenty four correct just the Lighthouse is so I still think the Witch remains his beast, like the Lighthouse quite a bit. Revisited that recently also, and it holds up The Northman. I'm a little cooler on though I do still like. Yeah, he came out of the gates with a real stunner, wowed me when I first saw it at a midnight screening at Sundance, and sticks with me still. So that's my pick, which leaves me only two slots left after The Witch Yep.

00:56:44
Speaker 3: Of course, your choice of Marcel the Shell. As I look back at your picks reminds me that that would be among the eight twenty four comedies we certainly would have to for sure. So you've got something light to put in the middle of your festival as well, and I knew that I was going to find room for a horror pick here on my list, I might as well follow up your choice of The Witch with mine. And there are going to be some conspicuous absences from my A twenty four list. You're not going to see ari Astor and Midsummer or Hereditary. You're not going to see either of those Eggers films, the which decidedly more of a horror film than The Lighthouse. But that doesn't mean there aren't some really great unconventional horror films on that A twenty four list. And I've got three choices here, Josh, and I'll save the other two for maybe some honorable mentions, but it's really tough picking between these and the unconventional horror choice I'm gonna make is a film from another one of the reoccurring A twenty four collaborators, someone who's actually made three films for A twenty four. This one is his debut, Trey Edward Schultz, and the movie is Krisha. Going back my number eight choice, the horror of it strikes you right from the beginning, with the score, that opening eerie close up of the lead actress Kresha Fairchild, and this is such conventional subject matter. On its surface, it's the dysfunctional family gathering movie, Kresha returning fighting substance abuse, trying to ingratiate herself back into the family, but feeling rightfully that everything she does is wrong. There is an uneasiness and a terror in its own way that carries throughout the entire film. It's got shades of Malick about it, of Robert Altman of Cassavetts in its style, but doesn't feel like Schultz is trying to crib from those filmmakers. It captures a certain aura of those filmmakers, a certain spirit, and it's uniquely his own film. The other two films from Schultz. Of course, it comes at Night also, I think a really good scary film, and Waves his most recent, which I have to confess I still haven't had a chance to catch up with. But Krisha is a movie Josh that sticks with me, and it sticks with me so much that I'm not kidding ever since seeing it. Anytime I'm at Thanksgiving and someone's pulling the turkey out of the oven, I start to get a little panic attack.

00:59:36
Speaker 1: Going to help. Yeah, it's okay, So horror might be stretching it a little bit. I guess it's like psychological horror without these supernatural elements.

00:59:46
Speaker 3: Right, using some of the same techniques.

00:59:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does use some of the same techniques. It's also you know, psychological horror in the way on cut Gems is You've got a couple of high tension picks there. But yeah, really really good film. So a deep one. Yeah, that one's a while back, all right, So number nine I'm going to go with this is the one that I would describe somewhat similarly to the way you describe spring Breakers in terms of being a time capsule. It just worked a lot better for me. And that is Zola from Jenn it'sca Bravo based, you know, in sort of real life or at least a Twitter thread, and follows this insane adventure that an exotic dancer takes her new friend on. It's wild. It destabilized me. It made me worry about ourselves as a people, a society, a human race. And I'm trying to think on the fly here, Adam, what the distinguishing factor is for me, why this worked even though it's trying to do some similar things to spring Breakers. And spring Breakers did, and I'd have to revisit both films to maybe get a handle on it. I feel like there is a bit less of the spring Breakers was not moralizing, but there was maybe a bit more disdain for the characters I felt like in that film, whereas what Bravo brings to Zola is more of an affectionate observation of what is going on, and for sure as amusing as James Franco is as Alien, I did enjoy that performance very much in spring Breakers. What Taylor Page is doing as Zola in Sola in that title role is just incredible. The faces she has to wear to survive this weekend, yet somehow is always letting us in on her experience and what she's cool with, what she's not cool with. That's maybe the hook for me. There was a real character there that I could latch onto and a real performance of an actual human being. That is one of the distinctive elements for me. So I'm going to go with Zola here in my number nine slot.

01:01:59
Speaker 5: I feel like we met when I, Oh, no, you dance sometimes I dance okay, which.

01:02:10
Speaker 2: We too cute?

01:02:13
Speaker 3: Not supposed to be back here? What you're doing tonight Nothing you want to go somewhere with me? For my ninth pick, We're going to have a little bit of crossover again with our choices. I don't know, Josh, that anyone would think of these two films as having a lot in common, but Zola very much a film about the nature of storytelling that is very aware of itself. And I'm going with no, not the Souvenir, but I'm going with the Souvenir Part two from director Joanna Hogg.

01:02:52
Speaker 1: I know you like that better than the first one.

01:02:55
Speaker 3: I think I'm in a minority in that regard, though I feel most people liked both films, but there was a lot of love for the Souvenir, and I found that movie a bit more difficult, a bit more confounding, anyway, And I think it probably was Josh that storytelling aspect, the fact that this is very much a film school movie. The Souvenir is as well, and it's the story of this character and the relationship, the tumultuous relationship she has with an older man who is abusing drugs. She comes to figure out, and she also realizes she doesn't know a lot about him, that there's a lot of mystery there. It sets the table for as she's starting film school, the film that she's making in The Souvenir Part two, where she is then trying to process that grief of the ending of that relationship and what happens to him, And as a film that's very much about one of my favorite topics, that intersection of reality and fantasy, how we do use art to process emotions and to try to understand characters, to try to see things from different perspectives, but also on occasion to try to make things more like the way you want want them to be, because that's the ability you have in art that you don't have in real life. The Souvenir Part two is a film that I think maybe sits nicely here in this lineup. I'll have to josh space it out a little bit with While We're Young, two movies about filmmakers and characters who are making films. But Hog is one of those reoccurring collaborators with A twenty four with The Souvenir and The Souvenir Part two, and I'm eager to see.

01:04:48
Speaker 1: More so I could provide some very nice symmetry here. And I was about to I had slotted for this pick my last pick Adam the Souvenir, because I do like it a little better than the follow up, even though I like that film too. But I'm gonna switch because I just made a discovery here. I'm doing a little research, a little double checking. There are actually four A twenty four releases that I've given four out of four stars to Adam. I grabbed two of those what I thought were the three I just discovered. Look this up and confirmed your ghosts Lanthemos is the Lobster.

01:05:27
Speaker 3: I would not believe it's still here.

01:05:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can.

01:05:29
Speaker 3: I can't believe you're still here.

01:05:30
Speaker 1: Incredible. It's a gift just sitting there waiting for me to slot it in in my ten spot. What a weird movie, I mean, there's no way to classify this thing, right. You have Colin Farrell, so funny, very dry, one of his best performances, playing this recently divorced architect who I guess in this future alternate world, it's illegal to be single, we surmise basically, when we pick up with his character, he's checked into a hotel with other singles where they have forty five days to find a companion. It gets better. If they fail, they'll be turned into an animal of their choosing.

01:06:12
Speaker 6: And Dan, this discussion is a little unpleasant for you, but it is my duty to prepare you psychologically for all possible outcomes. Now, have you thought of what animal you'd like to be if you end up alone?

01:06:24
Speaker 4: Yes? A lobster? Well, a lobster, because lobsters live for over one hundred years, blue blooded like aristocrats, and stay fertile all their lives.

01:06:39
Speaker 1: This thing is blackly comic. I suppose its main target is the way we've idolized marriage in contemporary Western society, but it has a ton of other things on its mind, and lucky me, I can still grab the Lobster. Oh, that would have tortured me if I discovered afterwards that I had ranked at that highly and had not picked it when it was available. So that's it. My team is complete.

01:07:06
Speaker 3: A very strong close out pick for me, Josh, one that I was really wrestling with here. I had two choices left before my last pick, of course, and there were three movies that were really weighing on me. The Lobster was one of them. That one I think will also help with the voting around your list. A lot of fans of lanthemost a lot of fans of the Lobster out there, and my tenth pick is only going to hurt me. But I suppose it's fitting if you consider where this show started and the folly of you winning the first pick and taking my beloved ladybird, and it was over a question about Locke that I am putting my personal stamp on this list you're going and making sure I'm making sure everyone knows that this is my list. It's not Josh's list, it's not anybody else's list. Not only do I have while We're young in my top ten choices for a twenty four films, I have the movie Locke, a film that we learned was eighty five minutes long, and Josh, for me, it could have been one hundred and eighty five. Oh, keep Tom Hardy in that car even longer and give me that fascinating exploration of masculinity of man in crisis. Give me those incredibly high stakes, this film playing out over the course of one night, one car trip, and a decision that may in fact ruin this man's life at least his career, could destroy his entire family. And I think that aspect of control and deciding how much room you really have as a man, as a person to step outside of your prescribed role, to step outside of what you have decided is your lane. Sorry, no pun intended there, and to see if you can challenge that and all the potential consequences that come with it. I think a lot of people slept on Lock. Now you're going to say you might have slept during Locke, Josh, I know the joke was there and put it on a t for you. But I love Hardy in this role and it is one of my idiosyncratic A twenty four choices.

01:09:31
Speaker 2: No matter what the situation is.

01:09:34
Speaker 3: You can make it good. This is a joke to you.

01:09:37
Speaker 2: No, right now, nothing is a joke. Make one little stick eventually cracks aper.

01:09:50
Speaker 7: I'm not believing I was twenty three years old.

01:09:54
Speaker 1: And to be fair, Hardy is great. I mean this, this acting challenge of essentially carrying the entire movie, he can do it. He does carry one through it, even if not much else is working for you. But this is so funny. I've got my you know, my tears here in my list, my rank list, and I'm crossing out your picks as we go. In my two out of four star tier, all bunched up together. I have three CREAMI while we're young spring breakers lock all in a row there, So yes, you should enjoy those at your film festival.

01:10:30
Speaker 3: Well, we're actually in a similar position, Josh in that you have. I'd say at least half your choices are probably in the fifteen to twenty five A twenty four range for me, so we have some crossover at the top. And I like all of the movies. Well, I'm not a big fan of The Witch, but every other film on your list I gave a positive review to. There's just so many good A twenty four films to choose from that you can have them much lower leaf.

01:10:59
Speaker 1: That's what we should have. I mean, really, the reason we're doing this is the incredible run that have had over these ten years. When you take this list as a whole, and you can see, you know, my three and a half out of four stars tier is just gigantic. It's packed packed with titles, so a huge, huge, impressive output for them.

01:11:21
Speaker 3: From August twenty twenty two. And here's a little tease. If you made it this far. I mentioned to Sam that you know this list would look dramatically different even just right now, four years later, right if you think about or maybe not dramatically different. But there's been enough a twenty four releases that you have to guess that a draft might go differently. And I think what we might try to do, Josh, is revisit a draft like this every five years or so and see how it comes out.

01:11:51
Speaker 1: And so you win the poll.

01:11:53
Speaker 3: Now it was Sam's idea, not mine, so you can't put that on me. But maybe we'll say that for ten years. No, maybe I need I need to be redeemed. Access to the Film Spotting Archive is one of the many benefits of joining the Film Spotting Family. You can access fun top fives like that some where we have polls after maybe I win. I don't know. I'll have to look deep into the archive for that. Josh. You get access us to the Film Spotting Family discord, You get monthly bonus shows and more. You can learn more at Filmspottingfamily dot com. Thanks for listening.

01:12:28
Speaker 4: This conversation can serve no purpose anymore.

01:12:32
Speaker 2: Good Bye,