"Footloose" (1984) vs. "Purple Rain" (1984): Movie to Movie Part 2

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Welcome back to Part 2 of our lively discussion on the "Surely You Can't Be Serious" podcast! In this episode, we dive deep into the iconic 1984 film "Footloose" and draw intriguing comparisons with another cinematic gem, "Purple Rain." Join our hosts, Jason and Dee, as they unravel the cultural significance, musical brilliance, and cinematic excellence of both films.We explore the dynamic worlds created by "Footloose" and "Purple Rain," examining the unique storytelling, character development, and the impact each movie had on the audience of its time. From the rebellious spirit of Kevin Bacon's character in "Footloose" to the electrifying performance of Prince in "Purple Rain," our hosts leave no stone unturned in their exploration of these timeless classics.As the discussion unfolds, our hosts engage in a friendly debate, weighing the strengths and weaknesses of each film. The podcast navigates through the dance sequences of "Footloose" and the mesmerizing musical moments in "Purple Rain," drawing parallels and contrasts that will keep you on the edge of your seat.In the final segment, the "Surely You Can't Be Serious" podcast team delivers their ultimate judgment on which movie takes the crown as the best. Will it be the rebellious beats of "Footloose" or the musical genius of "Purple Rain"? Tune in to find out as our hosts bring their expertise, humor, and passion to this riveting conclusion.Don't miss this exciting episode filled with nostalgia, laughter, and the definitive answer to the age-old question: which movie truly deserves the title of the ultimate '80s classic? Stay tuned, because on the "Surely You Can't Be Serious" podcast, the fun is only just beginning!
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<v Speaker 1>Hellover one.
<v Speaker 2>My name is Travis Lastly, and I'm the unofficial president
<v Speaker 2>of the Michigan chapter of the Shirley You Can't Be
<v Speaker 2>Serious Podcast fan Club, And you're listening to the Shirley
<v Speaker 2>you Can't Be Serious Podcast?
<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, Welcome back to the Surly you Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious Podcast. We are on part two of our
<v Speaker 1>comparison of Footloose and Purple Rain, and we are not
<v Speaker 1>going to waste any time. Let's dan.
<v Speaker 3>This is the sixth episode that we've done so far
<v Speaker 3>on our summer of nineteen eighty four. It's been amazing
<v Speaker 3>to go through and just concentrate on one summer.
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the first time you saw either one
<v Speaker 1>of these movies? Yes, I saw Footloose in the theater.
<v Speaker 3>I saw Footloose in theater, and I think I saw
<v Speaker 3>prop raina on HBO when I when I didn't have
<v Speaker 3>permission to do.
<v Speaker 1>So, right, I can remember vividly seeing I didn't see
<v Speaker 1>all of Purple Rain. But my brother was in high
<v Speaker 1>school at the time, and he goes over to this
<v Speaker 1>friend's house that a bunch of high school kids are
<v Speaker 1>going to watch the VHS copy of this thing, and
<v Speaker 1>her little brother and I are banished to the upstairs
<v Speaker 1>and like you you know, you guys are too young,
<v Speaker 1>you can't watch this, And so of course we go
<v Speaker 1>upstairs for about seven minutes and they're like, let's go
<v Speaker 1>sneak downstairs, and so we sneak downstairs. We crawl in
<v Speaker 1>the dark on our hands and knees under the chair
<v Speaker 1>that everybody's sitting on. You know that somebody's sitting on
<v Speaker 1>there in the movie room. We sneak up, we see
<v Speaker 1>the TV and it is the lake Mini Tanka scene.
<v Speaker 3>Well, for starters, you have to purify yourself in the water.
<v Speaker 1>Is a lake in a time and we get to
<v Speaker 1>see Appollonia's boobies and we're like, our work here is done.
<v Speaker 1>We did not watch the rest of the movie. We're
<v Speaker 1>just like, let's get out of here before we're caught.
<v Speaker 1>We've gotten everything we needed to get for our Redar movie.
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, I'm out of here, okay, Jason.
<v Speaker 1>Before we get started, we have to acknowledge our executive producer.
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<v Speaker 3>it is mister Cameron Eckert, one of my college roommates, Cameron.
<v Speaker 1>Thanks man. When Cameron was in Egypt's you know, I
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<v Speaker 3>Cam, Thanks, buddy, appreciate you. He and I talk regularly.
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<v Speaker 3>Alright, eh a boozer. Let's talk about production on these movies.
<v Speaker 3>So I mean we will as well jump into the
<v Speaker 3>Lake Minnetaca scene. Okay, Yeah, let's back up just a second. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>So filming started on Purple Rain Halloween of nineteen eighty three. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>the first scene in the movie is actually Prince and
<v Speaker 3>Apollonia riding around on the motorcycle and you have the
<v Speaker 3>fall foliage of Minnesota. Funny part about that it snowed the.
<v Speaker 1>Next day, right right. Hearing Apollonia talk about this in
<v Speaker 1>various parts, the severity of what happened is different, but
<v Speaker 1>basically her jumping in that water two or three times. Afterwards,
<v Speaker 1>like she started to black out and the nurse believed
<v Speaker 1>she was going into hypothermia. And then apparently she was
<v Speaker 1>sick for some time and stayed at Prince's house and
<v Speaker 1>he like made her soup and took care of her
<v Speaker 1>while she got over the cold or flu or whatever
<v Speaker 1>pneumonia probably that she had from jumping in this ice
<v Speaker 1>cold water.
<v Speaker 3>The Lake Mantaka scene, if you don't remember, Prince says
<v Speaker 3>that he won't help her professionally because she couldn't pass
<v Speaker 3>initiation and she's like, what are you talking about. He's like,
<v Speaker 3>you got to purify yourself in the lake, Manataka, So
<v Speaker 3>she strips down and jumps in. Now that was shot
<v Speaker 3>in Minneapolis. Yes, they realized that they needed some close
<v Speaker 3>ups and some dialogue that they then later shot in la.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, not so cold over there, a little bit warmer.
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing when she stayed at Prince's house, Uh huh,
<v Speaker 3>she says, Yeah, I slept in his bed and he
<v Speaker 3>was a perfect gentleman.
<v Speaker 1>Nothing happened, which Prince, are we tiking? Wow?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right. Anyway, so during the production of Purple Rain, Yes,
<v Speaker 3>one of the things Prince did to get everybody ready
<v Speaker 3>for this is he gave everybody had show up and
<v Speaker 3>do dance lessons in acting class and acting classes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Part of it was to get them better for the movie,
<v Speaker 3>and part of it was to get everybody in shape.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 3>But there's one person that constantly skipped.
<v Speaker 1>It's who you would expect. Yeah, he was also high
<v Speaker 1>during the filming of this movie.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mister Morris, mister Morris day at the time.
<v Speaker 1>He's got one of the funniest bits, like he and
<v Speaker 1>Jerome have a lot of funny bits, but they do
<v Speaker 1>this bit that's a very appt and Costello, who's on
<v Speaker 1>first bit's good. I enjoy that bit. They are the
<v Speaker 1>comic relief of this movie. Yeah, they would be a
<v Speaker 1>very heavy movie without their comedy in it. But one
<v Speaker 1>of the important parts of the movie was what are
<v Speaker 1>the songs that we're going to use? Right? Sure, Prince
<v Speaker 1>gives out Magnoli this huge catalog of music and he's like, okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>which of these do you want me to use? He
<v Speaker 1>goes you pick. He's like, oh wow, okay, and so
<v Speaker 1>he's going through to trying to find songs, and then
<v Speaker 1>they have this event that is now famous. Yes, it
<v Speaker 1>is the first time that Wendy Melvoy plays with the Revolution.
<v Speaker 1>She starts the song and there are three songs from
<v Speaker 1>this live performance that end up in the album. But
<v Speaker 1>one of those songs is the song Purple Rain.
<v Speaker 3>That concert happened August third, nineteen eighty three. People don't
<v Speaker 3>realize this. I didn't realize until I started researching this.
<v Speaker 3>The recordings of I Would Die for You, Baby, I'm
<v Speaker 3>a Star and Purple Rain are taken from that concert
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty three. Now they produced them up. They
<v Speaker 3>add some strings and some things, but those are the
<v Speaker 3>live recordings from that concert.
<v Speaker 1>It was the first time they had ever performed Purple
<v Speaker 1>Rain live, and it is the version you hear on
<v Speaker 1>the album. And one one of the people in the
<v Speaker 1>crowd was Albert mcnoly and he comes to Prince afterward
<v Speaker 1>and he says, I think that song Purple Rain is
<v Speaker 1>the key to our movie, and Princess, okay, can we
<v Speaker 1>call the movie Purple Rain? He says, sure, that sounds
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Not only is it Wendy's first performance
<v Speaker 1>with the band, but it is the moment that the
<v Speaker 1>name of the movie and of course the name of
<v Speaker 1>the album are inspired. I think that that moment was
<v Speaker 1>they caught lightning in a model as you like to say,
<v Speaker 1>it was magic.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was magic, and it makes for a great
<v Speaker 3>climactic part of the movie.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So, apart from the lake Manataka scene, to me, the
<v Speaker 3>most moving part of the movie is when Prince gives
<v Speaker 3>homage to his dad and you have the big climax
<v Speaker 3>of the Purple ran dand the movie you actually have
<v Speaker 3>Purple Rain. And then he goes backstage and the crowd
<v Speaker 3>is just chanting and Jill is crying and they bring
<v Speaker 3>him back and he does I would die for you,
<v Speaker 3>and baby, I'm a star.
<v Speaker 1>All right.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So here's the interesting thing about this. Okay, Throughout
<v Speaker 3>the course of Prople Rate, they did such a great
<v Speaker 3>job of pacing. There is not any ten minute span
<v Speaker 3>where there is not at least one song played, except
<v Speaker 3>for one part. There is a gap of ten minutes
<v Speaker 3>and in the middle of that there's a sex scene.
<v Speaker 1>All right, it's the original storyline as Prince had done it.
<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned before, Mom and Dad are already dead
<v Speaker 1>in this murder suicide, and the end of his script
<v Speaker 1>ends with his suicide, like he dies at the end
<v Speaker 1>of his storyline, and so that obviously has changed. I
<v Speaker 1>think largely because of our first time director here, who's like,
<v Speaker 1>this is not the right story. What you have is
<v Speaker 1>a guy who wonders, will I turn out like my dad?
<v Speaker 1>And that's why that unpleasant as the abuse scenes are,
<v Speaker 1>they're critical to the movie because he's realizing that he
<v Speaker 1>is becoming his dad. He is becoming this violent, abusive boyfriend,
<v Speaker 1>right and he doesn't want to. He saves himself from
<v Speaker 1>becoming that, and that unlocks another key, which is the
<v Speaker 1>fact that he's this kind of domineering. Your music doesn't matter,
<v Speaker 1>Wendy and Lisai, Nobody cares about you. I'm the star,
<v Speaker 1>I'm the key. Well, say what you will about Prince
<v Speaker 1>and his abilities. He did a great job acting in
<v Speaker 1>this movie. Yeah, he really really did a great job.
<v Speaker 1>And from what I've read, he would watch himself every
<v Speaker 1>day on the dailies, watch it over and over again,
<v Speaker 1>figure out what his mistakes were. And they said, like
<v Speaker 1>his improvement was obvious from beginning to end on his
<v Speaker 1>acting abilities. But then he's got this moment that he's
<v Speaker 1>got to go crazy and tear this stuff up. And
<v Speaker 1>that's when he comes across his father's music. This is
<v Speaker 1>the part that you're talking about before his dad's were
<v Speaker 1>like that. His dad was like, that's the difference between
<v Speaker 1>you and me, is you got to write your stuff down.
<v Speaker 1>I've got online right here. Well then he finds out, well, no,
<v Speaker 1>his dad has been writing stuff down, and that's he
<v Speaker 1>marries that with this song that Lisa and Wendy have
<v Speaker 1>been working on the whole movie, and that is the
<v Speaker 1>song that we're led to believe his purple ring.
<v Speaker 3>It's a great story arc the building of the song
<v Speaker 3>that the climaxis at the end.
<v Speaker 1>So here's the interesting thing. Yeah, that scene where he's
<v Speaker 1>talking to his dad, and his dad is like, that's
<v Speaker 1>the difference between you and me, and you've got to
<v Speaker 1>write your music down. It's an actual conversation that he
<v Speaker 1>and his dad had. His dad showed up, didn't know
<v Speaker 1>what he was. I mean, he just happened to show
<v Speaker 1>up on the day that they're filming that scene, and
<v Speaker 1>he realizes he's kind of walked into something. So he
<v Speaker 1>hides behind what he thinks is like safe place just
<v Speaker 1>so he can listen, and he hears the scene that
<v Speaker 1>he knows is a conversation that he and his son
<v Speaker 1>have had. And then when the scene is over, Prince
<v Speaker 1>is obviously emotional and he walks around the corner right
<v Speaker 1>into his dad and they have this moment of Wow,
<v Speaker 1>our life just became a scene in a movie. Yeah
<v Speaker 1>for real, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's really cool.
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing about his father and the suicide, the
<v Speaker 3>studio wasn't comfortable with a murder suicide, or really even
<v Speaker 3>a suicide. Yeah, and so Albert Magnoally is like, no problem,
<v Speaker 3>he won't die, And I'm like guy. I mean he
<v Speaker 3>stuck a gun to his head and he didn't die.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that better he missed?
<v Speaker 3>Wow, he's a lousy shot. Harry, You're alive and you're
<v Speaker 3>a terrible shot. Okay, did you know that there is
<v Speaker 3>another sex scene in Purple Rain that has been deleted? Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's the Purple Rain sex scene.
<v Speaker 1>Like, you actually got some purple rain. It was not
<v Speaker 1>at the halftime show of the Super Bowl.
<v Speaker 3>Right right. You have the illusion of the rain in
<v Speaker 3>the background and maybe some lights or something that makes
<v Speaker 3>it look purple. But apparently the scene was even more
<v Speaker 3>awkward and they just it just didn't really work. But
<v Speaker 3>you can see it at the beginning of the Windows
<v Speaker 3>Cry video. There's actually a clip from it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Here's the thing I want.
<v Speaker 3>To talk about real quick. Okay, the sex scene between
<v Speaker 3>Prince and Apollonia. Yes, so they shot that scene three
<v Speaker 3>different ways. They shot a TV version, a PG version,
<v Speaker 3>an R version. We get the R version.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 3>But it's odd. It's just an odd scene.
<v Speaker 1>Well. I even texted you right after that scene. As
<v Speaker 1>I was watching it, I was like, whoa, I do
<v Speaker 1>not remember the V grab that happens in this scene.
<v Speaker 3>The hands wonder for sure. Yeah, but there's no nudity.
<v Speaker 1>Nope, although you can pretty well see through her paintings.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I've got a couple of little interesting tidbits
<v Speaker 3>on production Purple Range. Okay, So Prince and his good
<v Speaker 3>buddy Morris Day high school friends and bandmates. Yep, according
<v Speaker 3>to one of the guys in the Time, mister Jellybean Johnson,
<v Speaker 3>they got in a fistfight on the set of Purple Range.
<v Speaker 3>Oh so, as you said before, Morris Day had a
<v Speaker 3>substance abuse problem. He would show up late, he would
<v Speaker 3>show up not at all, he would not go to
<v Speaker 3>dance lessons, and just generally be a huge pain in
<v Speaker 3>the butt to everyone. Prince had enough of it one day,
<v Speaker 3>and apparently they got into it pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So the scene where the Time is doing Jungle Love,
<v Speaker 1>there's this really memorable part where the guys are dancing
<v Speaker 1>like they're up on the balcony and you've got them
<v Speaker 1>all dancing synchronicity together. Yes. So that dance group was
<v Speaker 1>known as game Boys, and they later like three of
<v Speaker 1>those groups of the group members Tony Moseley, Kirk Johnson,
<v Speaker 1>and Damon Dixon became members of Prince's band, the New
<v Speaker 1>Power Generation. They're also background dancers on Graffiti Bridge.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, not a big, not a big, not so much.
<v Speaker 3>Morris Day says a total of thirteen words to the kid.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know how many the words the kid says
<v Speaker 3>to Morris Day.
<v Speaker 1>That would be a goose against zero view the one
<v Speaker 1>more thing yep.
<v Speaker 3>During the production, Albert Magnolay comes to Prince and he says, listen,
<v Speaker 3>I've got this music montage and I want a song
<v Speaker 3>that kind of encapsulates all of the drama from the movie,
<v Speaker 3>just kind of carries us through all the emotions that
<v Speaker 3>the kid is going through. Right, you got problems with mom,
<v Speaker 3>you got problems with dad, you got problems with your girlfriend,
<v Speaker 3>you got problems with your band. Can you come up
<v Speaker 3>with something, so Princess like, yeah, I think I can
<v Speaker 3>come up with something. The next day comes back two songs,
<v Speaker 3>one of them when does cry Wow you forgot the bass.
<v Speaker 3>We'll get into that when we go track by track.
<v Speaker 1>So one more thing yep. Just before Prince plays beautiful Ones.
<v Speaker 1>When Morris Day is trying to pick up Appolonia, remember
<v Speaker 1>he leaves the girls and he goes and sits down
<v Speaker 1>at the table that Apollonia is at. Yes, all of
<v Speaker 1>his pickup lines are paraphrase lines from the Times songs.
<v Speaker 1>So Chili saus comes from ice cream, Castle comes from
<v Speaker 1>jungle Love, and the bird What time is it? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>That's actually yeah the title of their second album.
<v Speaker 3>I heard that Albert Magnoli sat down with Morris Day
<v Speaker 3>and Jerome and said, all right, guys, here's what the
<v Speaker 3>script says. Uh huh, Now, how would you say it right?
<v Speaker 3>And they would say, well, I would say this, you know,
<v Speaker 3>I would say that that line, how's the family? That's
<v Speaker 3>More's Day.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay, let's jump back over to Footloose. You know,
<v Speaker 1>we talked about casting already, but let's talk about who
<v Speaker 1>gave the best performance? Right, yeah? Okay. So we've got
<v Speaker 1>a lot of incredible actors. So you think Kevin Bacon good,
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't say he's the best. John Lefcott again excellent,
<v Speaker 1>but not the best performance Lori Singer, No, what who
<v Speaker 1>do you have?
<v Speaker 3>Hey?
<v Speaker 1>Listen?
<v Speaker 3>They all did a great job, including Chris Bean, Sarah
<v Speaker 3>Jessica Parker, Dian Weist. They all did a great job.
<v Speaker 3>But the person who gave the greatest performance in Footlers
<v Speaker 3>is the kid who falls asleep in church at the
<v Speaker 3>very beginning. When his dad wakes him up, he looks
<v Speaker 3>like he wishes he were dead.
<v Speaker 1>That was a memorable There's not a better performance. That
<v Speaker 1>was for real, real stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Look, I've been in church a lot of times, and
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee I've look like that a lot of times too.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so let's let's talk a little bit about
<v Speaker 1>prep work that these guys did for their acting performances. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>So Kevin Bacon was twenty four at the time that
<v Speaker 1>he was going to do this performance, and so he
<v Speaker 1>was like, am I still in touch with what high
<v Speaker 1>schoolers are doing? Right? And so he hit up the
<v Speaker 1>principle of a local high school and said, Hey, I'd
<v Speaker 1>like to come, you know, check out your high school.
<v Speaker 1>And he had this plan that like he was going
<v Speaker 1>to be like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever, trying
<v Speaker 1>to strut through the place and be cool and stuff,
<v Speaker 1>and he ended up having an experience that was completely
<v Speaker 1>different than they expected. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So he walked in like mister tough guy and realized
<v Speaker 3>pretty quickly this is very uncomfortable. So he lowered his eyes,
<v Speaker 3>lowered his head, tried not to be noticed and felt
<v Speaker 3>very alone, isolated, even scared.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was wearing a tie, like a skinny tie,
<v Speaker 1>and literally got made fun of for the skinny tie,
<v Speaker 1>like the line of the movie, hey nice tie. It
<v Speaker 1>came from that sperience, And so it's really truly interesting
<v Speaker 1>because I think that frames up a much better movie
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a character who's like kind of having
<v Speaker 1>to duck his head and he wants to be cool,
<v Speaker 1>but he's struggling. I mean he's struggling throughout the beginning
<v Speaker 1>of this thing because he's unsure of himself, which would
<v Speaker 1>make sense. I mean, living with your mom to this
<v Speaker 1>new place where nobody knows you, and you're getting hassled.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you think you're cool, but nobody else thinks
<v Speaker 3>you're cool.
<v Speaker 1>Right, You're doing the stuff that was cool where you
<v Speaker 1>were from, but everybody here seems to think that that's
<v Speaker 1>the devil's music. I know, Hey, you know what that
<v Speaker 1>reminds me too.
<v Speaker 3>When they first explained to him that dancing is illegal, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>he's like jump back, jump back. That was a term
<v Speaker 3>that Kevin Bacon actually brought to the script, right, and
<v Speaker 3>they thought, all right, that's cool enough to leave in.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, So it's interesting because John Lithcow kind
<v Speaker 1>of did the same thing on his own, so he
<v Speaker 1>wasn't raised in like a Christian household, It wasn't a
<v Speaker 1>part of his upbringing, so he won to know what
<v Speaker 1>it was like. And so he called a local minister
<v Speaker 1>there in the town that they were filming at and
<v Speaker 1>posed as someone who was having spiritual difficulties and you know,
<v Speaker 1>I've got questions, can you help me out? And the
<v Speaker 1>guy was like, oh, of course, and met with him
<v Speaker 1>and talked with him for hours, and he said, I
<v Speaker 1>felt like a total snake in the grass because this
<v Speaker 1>was just the nicest guy, really persuasive about Jesus and
<v Speaker 1>his love, and it was just like I felt lower
<v Speaker 1>than low. But again, that's the perfect thing to inform
<v Speaker 1>his performance for this movie.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I think that's awesome. That's super fascinating that both
<v Speaker 3>of those actors would probably have taken their role in
<v Speaker 3>a different direction had they not done those two things.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, so. I can remember as a kid, I
<v Speaker 1>thought John Lefgas's character was just this awful, you know,
<v Speaker 1>tyrannical human being. But watching as an adult, I'm like, no,
<v Speaker 1>this guy is the guy who's like, he's trying to
<v Speaker 1>do his best. He's trying hard to make things right
<v Speaker 1>and protect his flock because he's lost one of them,
<v Speaker 1>and the one that he lost was his own kid.
<v Speaker 1>That's a huge that's a huge deal. And so when
<v Speaker 1>I go back and I look and I'm like, who's
<v Speaker 1>the hero, Well, you got two. You have two heroes
<v Speaker 1>in here, two guys who make character shifts. And so
<v Speaker 1>that Kevin Bacon, going from the guy who's insecure and
<v Speaker 1>trying his best to you know, be a part of something,
<v Speaker 1>finds this thing to latch onto, this cause to latch onto,
<v Speaker 1>and then he gets to stand up and talk in
<v Speaker 1>front of the entire town. And it's not something you
<v Speaker 1>can tell. It's not something that he enjoys. As a
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, that Kevin Bacon, the actor said, I
<v Speaker 1>really don't like public speaking, Like it was difficult for
<v Speaker 1>me to do that scene because I'm not used to
<v Speaker 1>talking in front of a large group of people like that.
<v Speaker 3>He brought that in hives.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he's kind of weird. I mean he's
<v Speaker 1>a Broadway actor before this, but I guess you know,
<v Speaker 1>the lights are down, you don't see people, you just
<v Speaker 1>in the moment. But with this one, he's trying to
<v Speaker 1>talk to an entire crowd of people and as for
<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks, it's really intimidating. But he it's
<v Speaker 1>because of that he gets that character shift where he's
<v Speaker 1>like he finally gets to pound the table and say
<v Speaker 1>this is wrong and he stands up for something where
<v Speaker 1>he's been kind of beat down through the beginning of
<v Speaker 1>the episode. And then you got John Lithgow who sees,
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's doing all he can to protect people.
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to stop what he sees as this menacing thing.
<v Speaker 1>But then he starts to realize at the book burning
<v Speaker 1>right after he has this horrible encounter with his daughter
<v Speaker 1>in the church, he goes because they're burning books in
<v Speaker 1>front of the library and he sees that his flock
<v Speaker 1>has taken it too far right. It's like he's like,
<v Speaker 1>oh no, this is you know, what I meant for
<v Speaker 1>good has turned into something evil and I've got to
<v Speaker 1>I got to change my perspective of most.
<v Speaker 3>That's really interesting that you say that. So for me,
<v Speaker 3>when you say give me a movie that you had
<v Speaker 3>one perspective as a young person and that perspective has
<v Speaker 3>changed over the years. Phyllis is my number one example.
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<v Speaker 3>As a young person, I'm like, let the kids dance, man, absolutely,
<v Speaker 3>and I still like, let the kids dance. But let's
<v Speaker 3>not forget the pastor he lost his son in an accident. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and he's lost, and he's hurting, and he doesn't want
<v Speaker 3>to lose his daughter as well. And he's got the
<v Speaker 3>responsibility of his flock, like you said, and so it's
<v Speaker 3>it's complex, and he's trying to do the right thing
<v Speaker 3>for everyone right and Ariel is a little bit off
<v Speaker 3>the rails and she's standing on two racing cars going
<v Speaker 3>towards a semi right. As a father, I would brown
<v Speaker 3>upon that behavior, of course.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And my daughter will tell you she's like that
<v Speaker 1>because her parents were too restrictive.
<v Speaker 3>Well, and we all have something to learn.
<v Speaker 1>And I mean I can identify with that as how
<v Speaker 1>I felt when I was a kid too, you know,
<v Speaker 1>like your this is too much. I'm gonna go out
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna do things that are crazy just because
<v Speaker 1>I need to live life a little bit. Yep.
<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned the scene where Wren goes in front
<v Speaker 3>of the school board. Yeah, no, it's the public. It's
<v Speaker 3>the town council.
<v Speaker 1>It's the town council, real life, real life Elmore City
<v Speaker 1>was the school board. By the way, Arla mentioned that
<v Speaker 1>Larry Current that preacher actually looks like John Witkow. Really.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got to meet that guy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too.
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, Dean Pitchford I listened to the commentary, Dean
<v Speaker 3>Pitchford said that that scene was originally written as a
<v Speaker 3>more pound the table type of thing. Let us dance,
<v Speaker 3>this is our moment, we need this, huh. That Kevin
<v Speaker 3>Bacon pulled back, and it gave more gravitas and it
<v Speaker 3>was more like you could hear a pin drop type
<v Speaker 3>of thing. And he said that was the right thing,
<v Speaker 3>that was the right choice for that character.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, the insecurity that you can see and having to
<v Speaker 1>overcome that made it more compelling.
<v Speaker 3>And absolutely, and as a church going person, when you
<v Speaker 3>pull out scripture to aid you in your argument against
<v Speaker 3>a pastor, it's a little disarming.
<v Speaker 1>This powerful moment, A powerful moment, Okay. And I want
<v Speaker 1>to say one of the things that I went ahead
<v Speaker 1>and brought Arlen up. So just a couple of other
<v Speaker 1>little stories. He says he can remember there were some
<v Speaker 1>guys who were trying to break dance behind the school
<v Speaker 1>and cop came and told him if they didn't stop
<v Speaker 1>that they'd get arrested. Now keep in mind he's younger,
<v Speaker 1>like he's he graduated in the late eighties. But this
<v Speaker 1>law was still a law up until nineteen ninety two
<v Speaker 1>in Elmore City. Wow, I mean that's twelve years after
<v Speaker 1>they have first prom Finally they changed the law to
<v Speaker 1>allow for public dancing. He said it was actually the
<v Speaker 1>second time that those guys had gotten caught. The first
<v Speaker 1>time they got caught was by the shop teacher and
<v Speaker 1>he just wailed on him with the paddle.
<v Speaker 4>Old school, which again, right, that's awesome. Hey, you guys,
<v Speaker 4>break it up, no more breakdancing. Back here and get
<v Speaker 4>the paddle out, grab your ankles.
<v Speaker 3>So Kevin Bacon had to do some dancing, he had
<v Speaker 3>to do some gymnastics. He actually said that during the
<v Speaker 3>rage dance. Okay, let's let's talk about the rage dance
<v Speaker 3>for a second. So Ren finally gets tired of it.
<v Speaker 3>He's had enough. So he goes to this warehouse and
<v Speaker 3>he rage dances, right, and he smokes and he drinks
<v Speaker 3>and he dances. Right. This is the Rebellious Act. And
<v Speaker 3>it's a little bit it's I mean, it's a lot
<v Speaker 3>corny and so like it is a little bit ye,
<v Speaker 3>but the music is great and so we go along
<v Speaker 3>with absolutely. But during that scene, I think there were
<v Speaker 3>five total people involved, including Kevin Bacon. So you have
<v Speaker 3>a gymnast, you have like a ballet dancer, you have
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Bacon, you have a dance and so there's five
<v Speaker 3>people involved in that scene. And Kevin Bacon wanted to
<v Speaker 3>do it all himself, and they had to kind of
<v Speaker 3>say making.
<v Speaker 1>Kevin, you're pretty good at a bunch of things.
<v Speaker 3>But this isn't what we want.
<v Speaker 1>So let's go someplace dark and put your face in
<v Speaker 1>the shadow. That's it, and by your face with me
<v Speaker 1>and the other guy.
<v Speaker 3>One of the guys was Chuck Gaylord, who is Mitch
<v Speaker 3>Gaylord's brother. Mitch Gaylord being the Olympic like nineteen eighty
<v Speaker 3>four Olympic Gymnasts, starred in the movie American Anthem nineteen
<v Speaker 3>eighty six.
<v Speaker 1>Wow looking, shoot with your knowledge that boom.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's talk about the tractor scene. First of all,
<v Speaker 3>Ren on a tractor. He has no idea how to
<v Speaker 3>drive a tractor, and they give him the crash course
<v Speaker 3>of like, okay, here's the clutch, here's staring.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a great scene where Chris Penn keeps repeating
<v Speaker 1>everything that the other guy is saying. It's hysterical.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, there's a clutch. Yeah, yeah, there's a clutch.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And his shoelace gets caught on the accelerator.
<v Speaker 1>Right. I mean, this movie is rebel without a cause,
<v Speaker 1>except that he has a cause now, right is a
<v Speaker 1>throwback to the old James Dean thing. And of course,
<v Speaker 1>just like the old James dean thing. They've got a race,
<v Speaker 1>a chicken race, right, and so you've got this awesome
<v Speaker 1>moment where it's if anybody studied game theory, this is
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting kind of dynamic that you got to
<v Speaker 1>look at because somebody's got to give. Somebody has to
<v Speaker 1>give in this game. And it turns out Ren is
<v Speaker 1>the one that gives.
<v Speaker 3>Ring tries to give about ten dimes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he gives like ten seconds in. Yeah, okay, that
<v Speaker 1>guy's like one hundred feet from me. So I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and oh shoot my footstock.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shoelace is stuck around the excel and then he
<v Speaker 3>finally is like, okay, here it comes.
<v Speaker 1>I can't get off, and so now my only option
<v Speaker 1>is to just keep going forward and not like go
<v Speaker 1>off the rails into the ditch. And I wondered, because,
<v Speaker 1>like before when I had watched it, H'm like, how
<v Speaker 1>does he get a shoelace off so easily? Afterwards, when
<v Speaker 1>he finally stops and it starts aginning and it stops again,
<v Speaker 1>you can see him yank his foot really hard. I
<v Speaker 1>can give that up as he's just finally like, I'm
<v Speaker 1>ripping this thing off, and then he starts cheering like
<v Speaker 1>he's the hero and didn't. Yeah, holding out.
<v Speaker 3>For the hero, and you overlay it with the great
<v Speaker 3>Bonnie Tyler song holding Out for a Hero. It is
<v Speaker 3>a great suit. It's funny, it's entertaining, and it's thrilling.
<v Speaker 1>Totally, totally great. One of the best of the movie.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I don't know if we talked about this.
<v Speaker 3>All this was filmed in Utah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he went to Kevin Bacon went to a high
<v Speaker 1>school in Utah. John Lynch gasaw preacher in Utah, and
<v Speaker 1>the tractor race was in Utah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's Utah County, Utah, and it's like the heart
<v Speaker 3>of Utah. And when they talked to Herbert Ross, Dean
<v Speaker 3>Pitchford was like, well, I was kind of thinking like
<v Speaker 3>the wheat fields of Oklahoma, and Herbert Ross is like, listen,
<v Speaker 3>trust me. When there's nothing on the screen, but there's
<v Speaker 3>mountains in the background, it's more interesting to look at.
<v Speaker 3>Just just go with me on this. And they're like, okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean you cannot beat the wheat fields in northern Oklahoma.
<v Speaker 1>Whenever it's June harvest time, it's wonderful. It's like golden
<v Speaker 1>oceans out there, but that's only for about a month
<v Speaker 1>out of the year. Yeah, so not a good time
<v Speaker 1>to try to do that.
<v Speaker 3>One more thing, I wanted to talk about the dance
<v Speaker 3>montage with Kevin Bacon and Chris Penn where he's teaching
<v Speaker 3>him how to dance. So there's this whole dance montage
<v Speaker 3>set to Let's Hear It for the Boy by the
<v Speaker 3>Denise Williams and Kevin Bacon is taking Chrispin under his
<v Speaker 3>wing and he's teaching him how to dance in preparation
<v Speaker 3>for the prom It's interesting because they scattered around and
<v Speaker 3>it's it's in the gym, it's at farm, it's in
<v Speaker 3>the fields, that's the football field.
<v Speaker 1>It's all over the right.
<v Speaker 3>So what they did was while they were filming it,
<v Speaker 3>the last scene of every day on the shooting schedule
<v Speaker 3>was the dance scene, and so Kevin Bacon and Crispan
<v Speaker 3>would dance. Here's the interesting thing. The song that they
<v Speaker 3>had was not Let's Hear It for the Boy. It
<v Speaker 3>was one of the original songs that they have, which
<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about when they go track by track next week.
<v Speaker 3>But when they would do their dancing the last scene
<v Speaker 3>of every day and then they cobbled this montage together,
<v Speaker 3>and that's why it's really cool to see a ton
<v Speaker 3>of different locations and they're dancing.
<v Speaker 1>Sounds great. Okay, Okay, let's jump back over to the
<v Speaker 1>performances in Purple Rank. Okay, we talked before. All of
<v Speaker 1>the characters were pretty much I mean, they were based
<v Speaker 1>on their real life counterparts, right, right. But you've got
<v Speaker 1>one critical character that is an actor that came from
<v Speaker 1>the mod squad, Clarence Williams, the third. He is a
<v Speaker 1>guy who is a driving force through this whole movie,
<v Speaker 1>right right. So it's not a complicated script, right, It's
<v Speaker 1>boy meets girl, Boy loses girl, Boy realizes that he's
<v Speaker 1>enacting the abusive behavior of his father and mother and
<v Speaker 1>realizes he should change, and then also realizes that he's
<v Speaker 1>got this commonality with his father. Boy gets grow back, Boy.
<v Speaker 3>Plays amazing song. Win's Girl back.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, right. So at that point, you know the
<v Speaker 1>scene where he's talking to Prince and he's at he's
<v Speaker 1>talking to the kid and he's at the end of
<v Speaker 1>his rope and he asked him about having a girlfriend. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and he's like lover. He's like, you know, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know yet right, and he's like, don't ever get married.
<v Speaker 1>Was so powerful that Albert Magnoli said they wept as
<v Speaker 1>they watched them perform the scene. Strong, strong performance. And
<v Speaker 1>then again, the reason I say he's the driving force
<v Speaker 1>is because of that change that has to occur in
<v Speaker 1>the kid, like he doesn't want to be like his father,
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to be like his mother, but then
<v Speaker 1>he as time goes on, he sees himself becoming them,
<v Speaker 1>which I think was the idea from the beginning, when
<v Speaker 1>Prince first wrote these words down on notebook paper. That
<v Speaker 1>was the whole notion, was that he had become his
<v Speaker 1>mother and had become his father, and that's why he
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play those parts himself and flashback scenes. But
<v Speaker 1>obviously the way they did it was much better than
<v Speaker 1>that idea. But he's got to make that change. Did
<v Speaker 1>I tell you that like the end of the movie
<v Speaker 1>that Prince wrote, he commits suicide, Like that's the end
<v Speaker 1>of that movie, Like he puts in his mom's ear
<v Speaker 1>rings and he goes ahead and commits suicide. So thank
<v Speaker 1>goodness that they didn't do it that way. This was
<v Speaker 1>not this could not be a downer movie with the
<v Speaker 1>music that you have no.
<v Speaker 3>No, they thank you for not making that choice.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, that advice don't ever get married. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>that's actual advice from Prince's dad to Prince as a
<v Speaker 3>young man.
<v Speaker 1>It is very biographical this movie. Yep. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I don't know if you know this,
<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to get too much into music.
<v Speaker 3>We're talking pretty strictly about movie, right, But when Prince
<v Speaker 3>and Albert Magnoli were working on Purple Rain, Prince gave
<v Speaker 3>him a hundred songs to choose. From one of those
<v Speaker 3>songs that was not in that hundred Purple Rain, right,
<v Speaker 3>another one one dubscry right.
<v Speaker 1>All of I mean those two and one other that
<v Speaker 1>made it onto the soundtrack all came through the live
<v Speaker 1>performance in nineteen eighty three. It was third nineteen eighty three,
<v Speaker 1>Wendy Melvoy's first performance. It was, like I said, last time.
<v Speaker 1>Albert was in the crowd when they did that performance,
<v Speaker 1>and when he heard Purple Rain, that was what made
<v Speaker 1>him go to him and say, I would really like
<v Speaker 1>to make this the key song in the movie. It's
<v Speaker 1>so powerful, And Prince said, can we name the movie?
<v Speaker 1>Purple Rain? Sounds great, let's do it, and what a
<v Speaker 1>great name. It's great, that's great.
<v Speaker 3>The scene where Prince's dad is playing the piano, yep,
<v Speaker 3>and he they're having this discussion about that's the difference
<v Speaker 3>between you and me. I don't have to write my
<v Speaker 3>songs down. That piano piece of piano music. It's actually
<v Speaker 3>being played by Prince.
<v Speaker 1>Right, and it ends up in one of Prince's songs.
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's on computer blue. It's so hard not
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the music on. The movie is all
<v Speaker 1>about the music.
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know. Did you know that Purple Rain
<v Speaker 3>was selected for preservation in the National Film Registry by
<v Speaker 3>the Library of Congress.
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's an incredible move.
<v Speaker 3>We will get into that. We will get into that.
<v Speaker 3>You know who the only guy who doesn't speak in
<v Speaker 3>the movie from the Revolution?
<v Speaker 1>Is it? Mark Brown? Mark Brown Brown Mark.
<v Speaker 3>What an unfortunate nickname.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's terrible.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So let's move on to the reception and the
<v Speaker 3>success of these movies.
<v Speaker 1>Right. So, both of these movies, the album came out
<v Speaker 1>before the movie, right.
<v Speaker 3>And that's huge, particularly in Purple Rain's instance.
<v Speaker 1>I would say it's huge in Footloose's instance as well. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, if you don't know those songs already,
<v Speaker 1>there are new songs when you're watching a movie and
<v Speaker 1>they're not as impactful. Well, that's true, Footloose. The album
<v Speaker 1>did so well that people would buy the album having
<v Speaker 1>never seen the movie before the fact that it was
<v Speaker 1>getting played on the radio had a huge impot me.
<v Speaker 1>It was, like we talked about with Huey Lewis, Power
<v Speaker 1>of Love was the number one song the week that
<v Speaker 1>Back to the Future came out. The very first cool
<v Speaker 1>scene that we see is him skateboarding behind the cars,
<v Speaker 1>and that music is what's playing in the background, and
<v Speaker 1>so it it's perfect that the album comes out before
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's familiar with these and they are dancing along
<v Speaker 1>with those guys.
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about the original ending of Phillis before we
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, okay, we kind of it goes along with
<v Speaker 3>what you were talking about this success. The original ending
<v Speaker 3>was they got the council to agree to let them
<v Speaker 3>have a dance. Yes, And the director his quote was,
<v Speaker 3>if you spin the whole movie trying to get the car,
<v Speaker 3>when they give you the keys to the car, you
<v Speaker 3>actually possess the car, right and that's the end of
<v Speaker 3>the story. So they screened it with basically they arrive
<v Speaker 3>at the prom and that's the end, right, Yeah, So
<v Speaker 3>Dean Pitchford says, guys, I think we need to add
<v Speaker 3>a song here and let them dance and let the
<v Speaker 3>audience participate in the dance.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 3>And so when they originally screened it with the just
<v Speaker 3>arriving at the prom and that's the end of the movie,
<v Speaker 3>audiences did.
<v Speaker 1>Not like the movie.
<v Speaker 3>But you throw in the Kenny Loggins go Crazy footloose song,
<v Speaker 3>and you have the break dancers, and you have Kevin
<v Speaker 3>Bacon come in, let's dance and they dance, and you
<v Speaker 3>have the credits and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>You went into Bill Cosby a little bit and the
<v Speaker 1>dancing with Jews and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>But it went from a movie that was disliked to
<v Speaker 3>a movie that was a huge smash because the audience
<v Speaker 3>wanted to party with the cast.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like you said, if you're spending the
<v Speaker 1>whole movie trying to get the car and you end
<v Speaker 1>with them getting the keys, the audience is like going
<v Speaker 1>to be where's the car. I want to see the car.
<v Speaker 3>I want ride in the car.
<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point of the whole movie. And you
<v Speaker 1>also had to have some sort of resolution with the bullies, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Trick's boyfriend. You had to have some sort of resolution,
<v Speaker 1>and they chose to have a parking lot brawl out
<v Speaker 1>of it. I think that's great. Let's kick a little,
<v Speaker 1>but let's get these guys out of here. Let's do
<v Speaker 1>a big karate kick to the face, and then let's
<v Speaker 1>go dance. That's it, let's dance. Side note. Elmore city
<v Speaker 1>first prom theme was Stairway to Heaven.
<v Speaker 3>Nice.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's any break dancing going on.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think break dancing a thing yet in nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty I think it was like eighty two that break
<v Speaker 1>dancing really started.
<v Speaker 3>That's the type of information you get here at the Shirley.
<v Speaker 3>Can't be serious there you go.
<v Speaker 1>Nowhere else will you find that information?
<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, let's flip back to Purple Rain. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>reception here is where the match hits the fuse of
<v Speaker 3>the megaton bomb that becomes purple rain. So you have win.
<v Speaker 3>Doves Cry is released as a single and video May
<v Speaker 3>sixteenth and nineteen eighty four, and I can tell you
<v Speaker 3>from experience it was the song of the Summer of
<v Speaker 3>eighty four. The album drops a month and a half later,
<v Speaker 3>June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty four, and then on July sixteenth,
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four, Wind Doves Cry is the number one
<v Speaker 3>song in the country. That's when they released Let's Go
<v Speaker 3>Crazy July sixteen, and then the movie drops July twenty seventh,
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Then they have the Hollywood premiere of the movie. Everyone
<v Speaker 1>shows up. It's crazy like it's a red carpet event.
<v Speaker 1>You've got Eddie Murphy, You've got Prince and all his
<v Speaker 1>purple wonderfulness. It is a huge, huge event. It is.
<v Speaker 1>It is.
<v Speaker 3>Let me back up a second. I got a little
<v Speaker 3>bit ahead of myself.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So when they finished the movie, they screened.
<v Speaker 1>It for Warner Brothers.
<v Speaker 3>Ok okay, they showed it. After the first screening, everybody
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a dud zinks what So Magnoli said, listen,
<v Speaker 3>this movie's going to do forty million dollars. Don't kill
<v Speaker 3>this movie. If you do, it will be a travesty
<v Speaker 3>against art. Let this movie live. And he kind of
<v Speaker 3>had that pounding thing. He said, here's what you do.
<v Speaker 3>Here's your marketing campaign. You put an ad in every
<v Speaker 3>paper saying Warner Brothers presents prints in his first motion picture,
<v Speaker 3>Purple Rain, in every major city that has a black community.
<v Speaker 3>They tested in Culver City, California. The numbers were so
<v Speaker 3>far through the roof that they accused the producer of
<v Speaker 3>stacking the deck. They're like, this is bogus, this is
<v Speaker 3>bull You called all your friends. So what we're gonna
<v Speaker 3>do is we're going to screen it two other places,
<v Speaker 3>and we're not going to tell you where we're going
<v Speaker 3>to do it. So they screened it in Denver and
<v Speaker 3>in San Diego, and this thing happened.
<v Speaker 1>Numbers through the roof.
<v Speaker 3>They had to show up multiple times because people would
<v Speaker 3>come back and want to watch it again. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 3>so they were like, well, this is crazy. We don't
<v Speaker 3>get it. But it's it's on fire, right, So that's
<v Speaker 3>when they decided. One of Brothers decided to put on
<v Speaker 3>nine hundred screens worldwide, and it made close to seventy
<v Speaker 3>million dollars that summer.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, by.
<v Speaker 3>The way, if you get a chance to go back
<v Speaker 3>and look at that MTV premiere, yeah, it's super cool.
<v Speaker 1>All right. So normally this is the point where we
<v Speaker 1>would go into the soundtracks of the movie.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, let's do it.
<v Speaker 1>Man. I'm ready to talk Musing next week. No, these
<v Speaker 1>two albums are too big to make a single part
<v Speaker 1>of some other show. You've got to come back. We
<v Speaker 1>will talk Footloose next week. We will talk Purple Rain
<v Speaker 1>the album the week after that, and then we will
<v Speaker 1>give you our final judgment. What's the best movie, what's
<v Speaker 1>the best out.
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be amazing. We're going to go track by track,
<v Speaker 3>gonna learn things about these songs that you never knew.
<v Speaker 3>Come back next week.
<v Speaker 1>Come in? Do you like what? Do I got?
<v Speaker 3>No?
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