Episode 200 | Gunna Isn’t Canceled, New Cardi & Meg, & Polish Blackface

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I can see Gunner like I'm there getting emotional, like damn, like my life was almost ober, you know, like cool, I understand that. But if homie next to me starts crying my nigga from Brooklyn, I'd be like, yo, what's up with you?

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Speaker 2: Like, but that's not all Gunna things.

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Speaker 3: You look at your your man's weird if he gets emotional.

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Speaker 1: A Gunner show. If my homeboy cries at a Gunner show, we not friends, no more.

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Speaker 2: But well, you don't know the metaphor of drip too hard.

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Speaker 1: It's no, no, no, you can't cry the Gunner.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking put against talk.

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Speaker 1: I look like you could print my face.

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Speaker 3: It up, it up.

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Speaker 2: Episodes getting kind of old Roy and more. Two hundred's pretty old.

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Speaker 5: Throw the fog in there, they go, look at us, look at us, we're doing it.

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Speaker 3: It's demors cooning. Wow, that's fucking what dems.

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Speaker 2: For those listening in audio right now, we have a fog machine. I thought was just mold hot box on the other side of the office, but clearly not. And we have mot with no sparklers, no sign. You're definitely not getting a tip, miss bottle girl.

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Speaker 1: Yo, we got a tea about Demarrias's weekend rendezvous for fashion week.

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Speaker 2: So she was used to this.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, y'all don't even know the things I heard about baby deal over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: People was hitting me like yo, like you checked on DeMars. I was like, what's up? She I? They're like, nah, she just outside.

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Speaker 3: I was like her and this smoke is that?

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Speaker 2: That already is two hundred episode memory. Marris had fashion Week yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Damaras takes Fashion Week sounds like a movie.

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Speaker 3: I mean that sounds a good movie. Yeah. They're like struggling.

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Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't I don't drink.

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Speaker 3: You're watching on YouTube, are struggling to open the bottles of champagne. We look spooky. There's still there's a lot of fogs.

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Speaker 2: I did that without spilling.

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Speaker 3: That's first pre usual.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The eight is still going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah said I popped first.

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Speaker 3: He takes his time with the girls.

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Speaker 2: The older I've gotten the hardest.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to take the helmet off. He likes to keep it on. Once he touches it.

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Speaker 2: Up a few girls before he knows what he's doing with.

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Speaker 3: This no spill.

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Speaker 1: We first time have popped the bottle champagne, and all I got.

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Speaker 3: Is the Bears.

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Speaker 2: As I know, it was a little blasphemist that we didn't get ace, but ace is really fucking expensive.

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Speaker 3: Ye do that against economy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, inflation is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of crazy.

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Speaker 5: We have that for one hundred, Like, whose idea was that? What for a bottle of ace?

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Speaker 2: Inflate? Inflation hadn't hit the same way. Biden was fresh in office at that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, things didn't. Things didn't kind of hit the way they hit now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but congrats to everyone here. Two hundred fucking episodes. Uh no, it's not including Patreon live shows, other content, all that other ship, but this free.

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Speaker 3: Phone past two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these free ass episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to who wanted up. Cheers my brother, if you count, to the staff, Cheers to the crew chairs, to the team edit. You've been there every step.

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Speaker 3: Of the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is true, mag Yes, Themarus was there for the Yeah, every step of.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I've been there.

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Speaker 5: Just all right, Jesus, come on, let us just get our flowers and shut the funk up.

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Speaker 1: We went like edding, like he recorded, like first.

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Speaker 3: I get it, Like but I was. I did all the socials. Julian was there in the beginning, was not president jump. He was on email I was posting before the ship started. He read he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a thread to the thread. Thank y'all, Yom, thank you Benner, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Just pouring up a drink real quick.

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Speaker 1: Damarus has been pouring a lot of drinks. Just let me tell you.

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Speaker 3: Here's my birthday weekend.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you. Let me tell you what Demarius has been doing for fashion week. I think she was walking into Jean Paul Gaultier show. I think she walked in that. I think she walked Yeah, I think she.

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Speaker 3: She walked in that.

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Speaker 1: She walked in that. She walked in the Tommy Hill Figure show. Okay, she was hanging out with is that his name?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: She's in the new teaser. She's got a record coming with tso.

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Speaker 2: For sure the linked definitely the rocker chick that yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, she got it. She got a record with you. You know who I met. That's a really cool dude, Jilil. You know Juli.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy, Yeah, Jelil on the beat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's it's not jellel. He's a cool dude. Man, cool dude.

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Speaker 2: Where'd you guys meet? Uh?

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Speaker 1: We went? I went to whose party?

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Shawn's?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you did go to the Puff listening session?

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Speaker 1: I went to, Well it was. It started as Drake and then it started a shout out to Sean Dickerson.

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Speaker 2: Started at Derby.

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Speaker 1: Great party ended up being Puff's album listening even though I didn't hear much of the album because I left. Puff got there like two. I was like, all right, you know what this is. This is going to five. I'm out of here. But the party was dope. A lot of cool people I saw in them. I saw a consequence. Okay, just finally consequence. We spoke oh yes, all love man, shout out to cons, and we spoke cool dude, and we just laughed about the whole situation. Gotcha shout out to cons. But it was a good party. Shout out Sean. I usually don't hang out with Sean when he comes to New York, and I know he started low key started feeling like, I mean, I don't funk with him when he's here, but in LA I fun with him all the time. So I made sure I went to Shawn's party. Shout out to Sadik still one of the best parties going right now. It was no different. Well, it was different in New York than it was in LA. There was certain people that was in there that I know wouldn't have been in LA.

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Speaker 4: So I'm a slut for going out.

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Speaker 1: But you went to Sydney, went to one party, went to one party.

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Speaker 4: He went to the party.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, you could have went if you want to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you went to all the others.

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Speaker 1: You went to all the other parties. I heard about you people. Was called him like your baby d outside.

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Speaker 3: I'm like wast because she was me on like a Saturday, she texts.

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Speaker 1: She called me and asked me about a restaurant. Like, I said, baby d outside, I said, she.

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Speaker 2: Has time to kill two events.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she going crazy already with me.

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Speaker 3: Was like, yo, what's the name of that.

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Speaker 1: As soon as I told her the name of the restaurant, She's like all right, cool, thank you by and hung up. I was like, oh, yeah, she's moving around. I know why they hang up like that, and mean, she gotta go.

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Speaker 4: Tatiana and I wanted to go to Crown Shy.

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Speaker 1: So that's what you was at t You was fucking out.

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Speaker 3: You was mixing esus. She was everywhere she supposed to be sober.

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Speaker 1: But cheers, raise your glasses everyone.

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Speaker 2: It felt like New York was back to two hundred.

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Speaker 1: Back cheers to two hundred, cheers to two hundred more for two hundred after that, you want to do six hundred of these? Yeah, man, fuck it, let's go. They didn't think we would do one of these so well, existence, I'm just saying, you know, they thought me and Rory be working at FedEx.

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Speaker 2: Okay, which by the way, is great paying job.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 1: They thought we were crawling the rock yesh. Yeah, they can't get it with studies. Meanwhile, we with the Rock. So it's like I haven't had a drink. I haven't drink any alcohol, well, no wine. Off the first two ships. I still know why I hate Champion.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It tastes like it was made in a boot.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far. It definitely tastes like you're gonna have a headache later though. Yeah, that's why champagne is pain.

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Speaker 1: Is the worst.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't taste that back.

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Speaker 1: But for two hundred episodes, got to drink a little shamppickle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, champagne will keep you from having hangovers. So that's like my goals.

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Speaker 1: I don't want when I don't want to Champagne.

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Speaker 4: Champagne?

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Speaker 1: What Champagne is the worst hangover ever? It feels like somebody has your head in the fucking vice grip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the boot that he's talking about, Yeah and double knot timbling boot.

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Speaker 6: I think it was because y'all was like mixing it with like a bad decision.

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Speaker 1: What was drinking Hennessy with champagne? What type of animal do you think?

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Speaker 2: Who would ever do that?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're irish, you know, y'all. Don't. Everything goes down the hatch, you know, how y'all do.

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Speaker 2: I did bring gifts. I'm sorry get gifts for everyone, But I did get some gifts from all. I did celebrate two hundred.

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Speaker 1: One of your gifts was supposed to arrive today, but it didn't. Well.

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Speaker 2: I got very special wrapping as you can see, let's do one by one, one by one.

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Speaker 1: I got because we were in Rory's home and we were using up some of his stuff and I personally used like one of his good candles. I got you a really nice laundry candle from dip teek.

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Speaker 2: Oh those are some of my favorite candles.

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Speaker 1: I know it is, brother, So I got you one for there, and I have another gift on the way. It didn't get here before I leave this morning.

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Speaker 2: The oh.

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Speaker 4: Like flavors orange, smell it?

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Speaker 2: Are we gonna give them? Give him a crazy ad like this?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Why not?

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Speaker 1: It smells great? I almost kept it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this one is really good. Yeah yeah, this is one men and women would like. Mm hmm all right, well Mina, Damn, I didn't know you went above and beyond with dip teak?

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Speaker 1: Is that above and beyond?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I kind of wit buying gifts for like your male friends. I haven't want to seem like it's like a you know, romantic things you're trying to him, bro, Well, it's a candle and it is.

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Speaker 2: A romanic smelling candle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so makes you want to get naked soon as you smell it.

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Speaker 2: Since Mall doesn't like use his desk very often at the studio, I got him. I got him an accessory for the desk.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Just a nice little bobblehead that can stick right there. Make make America great again, Donnie bobblehead, so he can agree with Donald Trump anytime. He just moves his head.

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Speaker 1: How did you know I wanted this?

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Speaker 3: How did you hard?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is this the gray one of the grace gips I've ever got.

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Speaker 3: Put it on the Uh, let's put it up on the set. No, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Just feel like we shouldn't maybe not monetize Donnie is not staying.

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Speaker 3: That's for your desk, red cub right, it's my desk. YouTube's full of right wing rabbit hole people. They would love if they saw that in their pod, they'd probably tune in.

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Speaker 2: I know, you're just getting furniture into your crib now and like getting situated. So I got you a toolkit with the name Dan engraved in it.

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Speaker 1: Dan. Who the fuck is Dan?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's the only one I could get.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Who Dan is you?

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Speaker 2: That's yours?

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Speaker 1: Okay, fucking table? You just have a knife on it. Yeah, and then walking around the street to the hall with this ship.

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Speaker 2: While you're cooking up. I figured you could have a money bag in America.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's crazy, because you know, you get coke oil on your your clothes, it doesn't come out.

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Speaker 2: So I figured that Rory's just.

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Speaker 4: Man a money apron New York money apron. That's ween.

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Speaker 1: This is fire yeah, and as the American.

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Speaker 4: Flag, tackiest thing I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 2: You don't think it was design? Well, China sounds finest.

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Speaker 1: Right there fits purpose like a glove.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can put your Dan pocket knife in the pocket and I think Donnie's head pause could stay like right above the pocket.

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Speaker 1: You can never have too many pockets as a man. You can never have you need so many different compartments.

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Speaker 3: This is greats over here.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, wow, I don't know if I should cut here, make eggs, cut.

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Speaker 3: Hair and make eggs like this.

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Speaker 1: This is like this is like a multi purpose type of like apron like you, you can do whatever you want in this.

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Speaker 3: You can have sex like okay, you fucking that apron?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah no, well I would suck her while she's wearing eight.

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Speaker 2: She would move your apron to the side.

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Speaker 1: That's hey, turn her around. This is dope though, that's really nicer money bags. Okay, yeah, lady Liberty fire high dude, you know you from the block when you got a fire d you know on your street?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you love America flags right there?

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Speaker 1: Love America forty five though, y'all don't understand this is great.

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Speaker 2: I almost regret it.

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Speaker 3: Get put it, put it like right up in the camera, like, get up in there? What did you?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 2: They they're pretty much sold everywhere, are they?

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Speaker 1: This is great, man, all this stuff. Had to give me another one. When it says, uh, forty seven, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Does he become forty seven? I would Has that ever happened with presidents that you missed the term and then they came back.

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Speaker 3: Still, if it's happened once before, Yeah, you're only known by the one that you.

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Speaker 1: Forty seven, forty five and it happen, it's.

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Speaker 3: Happened once before. I don't want to. Don't quote me. I ever forget which president?

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Speaker 2: What's forty five plus forty seven?

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Speaker 3: Wait, we're bad at math in the show.

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Speaker 2: What if he's four four and fifty seven?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How does that work? So now Donald forty seven? If Donald Trump wents next year, he would be the Ford because Joe Biden's the forty six right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was a governor. It was Grover Cleveland. He was the only president to leave the White House and then returned for a second term four years later. And I believe he's only known as the numerical number that he was on the first No, he's not. He was a twenty second and twenty fourth president.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, he would have to because it's still a different term.

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Speaker 3: In forty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appropriate, ak forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so when he would comes here forty seven, I need to get forty seven and put it right.

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Speaker 2: Next I'll go to Canal Street where I got that from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I know you. I'm watching all this time. Did you at one hundred percent of the eyes like at checkout?

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny. When I was browsing, I saw that, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna get that, but I wanted to continue browsing, so I left it where it was. Back rabbed it real quick. On that's kind of on the walk.

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Speaker 1: And a man goes shopping for like tampon, just like you don't want people to see it on the checkout much.

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Speaker 2: Rather would have heavy flow tampons than the Donald Trump bibblehead, even in Chinatown because there's so much Trump ship. It's that weird. I still know.

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Speaker 1: Thanks well, thank you man for the bibblehead and the apron and the pocket life. It's dangerous these streets is like Gottham Citty now out there, May and Adams.

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Speaker 2: If you ever get into anything, I couldn't put mall on it. That's like snitching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you yeah, really from the street.

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Speaker 1: Like, no, it's my coworker Dan, he left it at the office. Yeah yeah, it's like, no, my name is mal, sir, I'm not I don't know who. No, this is this is amazing. Thank you for this man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: Cheers to two hundred, Shout out to two hundred more.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to the fans for listening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to all of the supporters, all of the.

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Speaker 2: People's shows comments, negative and positive. We really really thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love this is great and let's uh, let's get.

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Speaker 2: To fucking bongos. That's really what the streets want to hear.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had this apron When I saw the video, my back shots sound like, let's just start here. So Cardi, B and Meg dropped the new song. Obviously. They gave us the classic, the legendary Wop a couple of years ago, and now they're back for a different part of the female anatomy called Bongos. Yes, I'll be honest, I had to watch the video four times before I even heard the song because I was just looking at Carti and Meg. They look amazing first and foremost. The video is amazing, video was shot incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, let's look up who directed it, but shout out to them. They smoked this. Yeah, so we can start with love there. What does everyone think of the record?

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Speaker 3: Man, Man, I'm not mad at the record.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at either.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. It's not a bad record. To me, it's not bad. I don't think it's it's not I don't feel the way I felt when I heard Wop. It doesn't have the whoe because WP was such a like a damn they talking crazy.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the curse of this record too. It's like, now you have a comparison, sick.

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Speaker 1: Of you gotta you gotta the bars Wop obviously like okay, it's just why, but I just want to I mean, they just look great. Just fuck the record. Who cares about Megan looks amazing, She looks amazing, Carti looks great. The video, the colors, I mean, fuck the record. I just was looking at that as I'm gonna be honest with you, I didn't I didn't hear lyrics.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here to give you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to give you a rap genius breakdown. I don't want to, you know, objectify women. I'm not doing that. But y'all knew what y'all was doing when y'all put this ship on Magnane.

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Speaker 2: This video is not meant to be objectified all.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Celebrate Yeah, women's bodies, but only amongst women.

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Speaker 1: This.

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Speaker 2: They did this for women.

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Speaker 3: It's a women empowerment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'll talk about the record. Of course it's not. But I think it's gonna do his job. I think Carti is in need of a right now, and this one. I don't think it is too bad. I don't know what people expected. I guess it is really my first analysis on this. What what did you think they were about to do?

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Speaker 1: What people like you said, it's the whole wop thing. People were expecting it to be wop two point zero.

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Speaker 2: I guess if the undeniable ship that comes out the gate this, I think this record can grow. When it first came out, I was like, oh, this is cool. I heard it more throughout the weekend and started to like it more. And it's not gonna go anywhere. This will we will be brainwashed with this. It will, I guarantee you within two or three weeks, everyone will pretty much like this. I know WAP was undeniable out the gate. This will be undeniable in a few weeks.

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Speaker 4: That's not true.

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Speaker 2: That's really how I think it'll be.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people did not like WAP when it first came out.

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Speaker 6: Got a Wop got a lot of criticism it first came.

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Speaker 2: Out, Sean Hannity, no.

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Speaker 4: Wop, No from everybody? Why did A lot of.

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Speaker 3: Politically or because of the of what kind of.

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Speaker 6: Because of the music. A lot of people did not like Wop. Wop was a grower.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: Definitely was Roy's dick got hard. Okay, you didn't need how do you have that animation? And I was implied just in case they didn't. I just came from chords. I just had to like which court did you dick court?

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Speaker 1: Like which thass pedal.

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Speaker 3: Brushed off?

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Speaker 1: Just put your pedal, your pedal, k face on.

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Speaker 2: Deadly the pedal Halloween constume, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like who's this guy? Who's the who's the new guy on the So people hated Irido, Yes, No, one hated a lot of people didn't like what I know, I know, I know me particularly. I was like, yo, this is definitely one of the most vocal songs in hip hop history.

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Speaker 3: Easily.

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Speaker 1: People are like, oh no, Little Kim. I said no, Little Kim and them had crazy songs. But what was like right to it? Like it was no metaphors, nothing, It was just like your wet ass pussy. And I was like, oh, who doesn't like what pussy?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Cool?

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Speaker 1: But then when you heard it, he was like, damn they talking crazy on this. Bongos is not as sexual, it's not as aggressive.

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Speaker 2: It's very sexual sexual, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Not as aggressive. It's not as aggressive, it's not as.

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Speaker 3: It's not as like straightforward as.

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Speaker 1: My back shots sound like bongos. Okay, we understand what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: This is the first The first line is eat my ass like a plum, like enough it chewed up like it's gum. Have you ever been wipe your mouth when it's done?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you ever eaten plums?

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Speaker 2: I have eating plums before.

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Speaker 1: Don't you know exactly what Cardy is talking about?

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Speaker 2: So you this is just as vulgar as No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not as it's still it's still there, but it's not real.

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Speaker 4: He said, I don't want to spit. I don't want to choke.

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Speaker 1: Hit that little dangly thing that's swing.

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Speaker 4: In the back of my throat.

00:18:47
Speaker 2: That was anatomy.

00:18:48
Speaker 1: That was That was so was the plum in ass. It's all anatomy.

00:18:53
Speaker 2: Meg was less vulgar, I guess, but Cardi was straight to the fucking point.

00:18:57
Speaker 1: When Meg said this asked like a stallion and that camera.

00:19:00
Speaker 4: Oh you want to be ponies?

00:19:04
Speaker 1: I could. I had to stop. I say, let me start this from the top because I think I missed.

00:19:07
Speaker 3: A Julity hates a song like I don't hate it.

00:19:10
Speaker 4: Yes, you you were shipping on it. Od no, keep your same energy you did that you had off mic, not you.

00:19:14
Speaker 3: I don't do the off mic.

00:19:15
Speaker 6: And then okay, so you just came out here is like, it's okay. You said it was a horrible song.

00:19:20
Speaker 3: When I walked in and I said, it's mid it's not. You definitely said.

00:19:23
Speaker 1: Yes, I think. I think I think it'll grow on you.

00:19:26
Speaker 3: Though no, I'm saying I Look. I was at Atlantic when WAP came out. Undeniable hit out the Gate and obviously they gave that all the all the house money in the world to make it the moment that it was. They're going to do the same thing they did. I know that team. They're going to do the same thing on this one. Just because it's going to be in your face and be all over the place doesn't make it a good record. I'm arguing for the fact that it's not a good song. That's it. Okay, we see it everywhere, will break streaming records. Of course they're going to push it. Incredible, it looks amazing. I'm talking about the song, just the music not that great.

00:19:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I understand. I wasn't like when I first heard it, I wasn't blown away by but I was like, it's not a bad record.

00:20:02
Speaker 3: Though Wop I loved immediately that shit was incredible.

00:20:05
Speaker 2: Neither of these records were made for me. But I would play Bongos personally before I played Wop.

00:20:11
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, without a doubt.

00:20:13
Speaker 2: You should dry So, I mean, you know, I like Bongos.

00:20:16
Speaker 6: I am starting to like Bongos more than I liked Wop, and I really really really liked Wop.

00:20:22
Speaker 4: I really like Bongos.

00:20:23
Speaker 3: I think you're letting time.

00:20:25
Speaker 6: No, it's not time. It's not about that. I like them, so fuck the lyrics. I like the music of this song better, right because Wop is a sample, it's that sample over and over. It's a catchy sample. But Bongos is it's definitely sampled. But it's like, I don't know, it's just different. I really really like it.

00:20:43
Speaker 3: It's like warmer.

00:20:45
Speaker 4: I would like this song even if Cardi, even if Cardi and Way.

00:20:48
Speaker 6: I would like this song, if that makes sense, Like even without their verses, I would like.

00:20:52
Speaker 4: The bongos of this song.

00:20:54
Speaker 3: Bongos is too perfect and it's definitely yeah.

00:20:57
Speaker 2: It actually it needed it needed a Bruno feature. If that was the last time Carty was really underniable when she had those Bruno features. That's you know, neither here nor there.

00:21:05
Speaker 6: I don't want to get what goes up in the club, even for people who don't know the song, it goes up in the club bongos multiple times over the weekend.

00:21:12
Speaker 1: I was gread to say, was it And now that I think about, I think that's what you were doing. You were actively because we know you love Cardi and you know I think that you were actively in the streets to make sure to fill the record to see how people were living with.

00:21:25
Speaker 6: A quite Yeah, I'm I'm her Street.

00:21:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's why you was hopping around fashion Week making sure the record was playing.

00:21:34
Speaker 2: She went to the barbershops.

00:21:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, okay, get you was handing out bongos, Yeah, the cover on them.

00:21:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine her sitting court side at the fashion show. What's court side for faston shows? You know when they sit right there the.

00:21:47
Speaker 3: Side of the runway, yeah, front, Yeah, with bongos court side.

00:21:51
Speaker 2: I could definitely see the maras with bongos court side at the top that it sound like.

00:21:56
Speaker 6: So p'sro in the group chat his backshot sounded like bongos and I said same.

00:21:59
Speaker 2: It was his birthday.

00:22:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, Peaches, Like, was that video of Peage with that hair? Was that real?

00:22:03
Speaker 2: He?

00:22:03
Speaker 3: Yea?

00:22:04
Speaker 4: Was that real?

00:22:05
Speaker 1: Did he? Ai? C G?

00:22:06
Speaker 2: You never know what Peach?

00:22:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I'm saying. I had to question. I didn't even know Peach had that much hair, had.

00:22:10
Speaker 2: The Donny cut.

00:22:11
Speaker 3: That was fake? Right, he does have forty five I knew that was fake.

00:22:15
Speaker 4: That was fake.

00:22:16
Speaker 2: That's a letdown. Well maybe that bro, it's an old video.

00:22:21
Speaker 3: He grew it out in the pandemic.

00:22:22
Speaker 2: Well, put it in the corner of this YouTube videos put it bro.

00:22:25
Speaker 1: I looked at that and got uncomfortable. I was like, the dog, this has to be fake. That hair was illustrious and it was beautiful.

00:22:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great.

00:22:33
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never seen Peage with such.

00:22:35
Speaker 2: A beautiful It was the it was the male version of a birthday maker.

00:22:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:22:39
Speaker 1: Then he like gave it a little like shake and then like looked at the camera and I was like, he looked majestic. It was like a panting canvas turned on. No, I wasn't turned on. I was like, yo, is this a woman right now? That's why I thought it was he has long hair. No, but it was like the you know, it did have volume. Yeah, it was like this a panting commercial.

00:22:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:23:03
Speaker 2: I actually heard Peage was one of the people in the Polish black Face over the weekend as well.

00:23:08
Speaker 1: Now that is something totally different.

00:23:10
Speaker 2: That's what the haircut was for. I don't know, get rid of it for blackface?

00:23:13
Speaker 1: Is that is that show? In any way? Like cancel yet?

00:23:16
Speaker 5: I was also Peach's birthday real quick, by the way, I just want to give him quick child for that.

00:23:20
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday page Happy Birthday PG.

00:23:22
Speaker 2: But yes, so those that don't know, over the weekend in Poland, there's something that appears to be like American Idol car It's yeah, their version of it.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: Guess the singer match singer.

00:23:35
Speaker 2: Is I don't know if they needed to guess to bat black that's crazy.

00:23:38
Speaker 1: So who's that under that black face? And she's looking at you like, who is that? I don't know who that is?

00:23:42
Speaker 2: So some clips surfaced. I believe the first one was the Fake Kanye, which was doing Stronger Yeah with the graduation glasses on.

00:23:51
Speaker 3: That actually kind of looks like Kanye.

00:23:52
Speaker 2: So when I first saw this clip, someone said, look, Kanye's back out in Poland, and in my head that made sense. Yeah, Kanye would perform in Poland's off graduation and dress like he did in two thousand and seven, took the walk there. Then I started to look a little bit and I was like, Dad, looks like blackface.

00:24:10
Speaker 3: You know from experience, uh you know it was eight three.

00:24:15
Speaker 1: Well, Kanye, the Kanye character, he does look like Kanye.

00:24:18
Speaker 3: It actually is good.

00:24:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like Kanye. Now then it's the the Kendred Past, the Kendrick guy D is like, all right, who who's behind this show? Which? Which network is producing this? This show has to be canceled. I'm guessing probably, And there's no way there's no way that this show can continue after And is this something that they do every year or just the first year? Like I need more? What is happening to where now you can put blackface performers on television and have them perform.

00:24:46
Speaker 4: You gotta just go to an sec s and other countries.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: It's not this year.

00:24:49
Speaker 3: The stigma exactly, the stigma of blackface and Poland is not this. It doesn't have the same history as it does in America, Like it's to us, Yeah, from the outside it's fucked up, But to them, this is art. If I'm in America, it's enough art to put on a whole production and make it a show. They're not. They're not doing this in They had a lot of time to get this.

00:25:09
Speaker 2: There's like twenty five background dancers, all in perfect choreography. And these guys did not miss a single English rhyme.

00:25:15
Speaker 1: No face, Oh absolutely, I think they were don Like how much called the dress rehearsal. You gotta go all the way out it has to be like a full out rehearsal.

00:25:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just throw like these the under eyes on, like yeah, like a football game.

00:25:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, but listen, just put it under the eyes and go out there and do your your best. Kendrick uh Montage.

00:25:32
Speaker 2: I'm just upset the guy that played Drake. They didn't try to do like a last minute audible and like just be Calid. He looked like black face Calid. And he looks like Kalid Tanning too much in Miami, like he's been on the jet skime for way too long.

00:25:48
Speaker 1: This is crazy, man, This is this is this just just just I don't understand how this like we can't do this in America.

00:25:57
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, to Julian's point, it's drastically different.

00:25:59
Speaker 1: This is the American culture, these songs, these artists that they have betrayed is like this Median this is American culture.

00:26:04
Speaker 2: Also. I don't want to get too deep down the the music industry conspiracies, but this had to be cleared by all the major labels to use Hotline Bling, to.

00:26:16
Speaker 3: Use the audio.

00:26:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, I didn't even think about that.

00:26:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, all this was clear. I'm not saying they watched this may have been Live. I'm not saying they watched it, but they definitely clear.

00:26:25
Speaker 3: Does Universal have a division in Poland, because then it would go through the local label. Yeah, you know we have like you know.

00:26:32
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a Universal Poland, there's definitely Universe.

00:26:35
Speaker 3: I was going to say that they would probably go to their local would be which would be their offices, which would probably be in excuse.

00:26:40
Speaker 2: Just some dude that was like, yeah, it's probably one of these guys. They probably work at universally. That's why they were able to do this. They were in the office like I have an.

00:26:50
Speaker 1: Idea, this is this is disgusting, man, this is crazy. I don't I don't know. I can't believe that this is still No, I'm surprised.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: Even as he tried to do the half moon.

00:27:00
Speaker 3: The mannerism has done pretty well though.

00:27:02
Speaker 1: No, they rehearsed, they put Tom in, they put Toime in with this shit. This isn't something that they just like was like, let's just do this and let's try it. This is something that they've been working on and waiting a debut to the world.

00:27:13
Speaker 3: Look at the judge with the serious face. He's like, hmm, yeah, that is Drake.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: That's that's what no one brought up. Every time they cut to the judges, how seriously intrigued they were about judging. They're watching every movement like it's a bunch of Simon Cowells that are really ready to make a proper judgment of how black Face Hotline does.

00:27:29
Speaker 1: I think you did, listen. I know that way in the time now with nobody really gives a shit about anything. People are offended for ten minutes and then they're on to the next thing to be offended about. But the fact that this is still something that is being produced and shot and aired on television in twenty twenty three is to me just fucking insane. Like, no matter how you cut this, this is some racial shit. This is some racist shit.

00:27:54
Speaker 3: Different cultures, yeah, but it's still racist. Racism is it's not universe across the board. They don't they never had a.

00:28:03
Speaker 1: White person dressing up in black space.

00:28:05
Speaker 3: I'm saying, poll in slave black people.

00:28:08
Speaker 1: I don't care. In history, I don't care who who didn't enslave black people. To shut up, Jillian, that's still offensive to black people.

00:28:16
Speaker 3: It's offensive to us because we're black in America. There's no yin people in Potland.

00:28:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so nobody in the world should be doing things that.

00:28:23
Speaker 3: That's what. So that we're saying the world universally has to respect America's laws.

00:28:27
Speaker 2: I'm saying that the world has to respect American arrogant shit.

00:28:30
Speaker 3: It's very arrogant.

00:28:31
Speaker 2: They probably don't even know that. They don't know, they don't know the history of black face.

00:28:34
Speaker 3: The connotation means nothing to them. There is no this is bad because of this. It's not that this.

00:28:41
Speaker 2: Is for the art form, not even America.

00:28:44
Speaker 1: And that's like whoever, because this is a huge productions to television, a Polish production, So somebody and that works there needs to research it and see like could this be offensive?

00:28:52
Speaker 3: Could you know how much shit that we say that's so arrogant. There's so much stuff that we say and do that we put out that we don't even think. We're like, oh, if it doesn't offend me, then it doesn't offend anyone, And we put shit out. Look at like all these fucking major brands here that I kept struggling thinking on the top of my head. But there's so many campaigns that go out that I'll ultimately get pulled back because of the cultural implication because people don't think to look into it because everyone assumes if it doesn't offend me, then an offends no one. That happens all the time.

00:29:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we just saw Jamie Fox almost get canceled after he almost died and we prayed for three weeks for saying something that was offensive when he wasn't trying to be offensive at all.

00:29:28
Speaker 3: That's another you're kind of supporting my point.

00:29:30
Speaker 2: Didn't do white face in living go, I mighta support your point.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like the point, like that's that is my point though, it's like people people have different relations to things that happen because they're putting in. They're bringing in their biases and their past experience and their like historical context that fits their profile. So if someone says, Yo, Jamie, that pisses me off because ABC Jamie. But Jamie, from his point of view, his photocraphy' was like what, like what do you even I don't even know what you're talking about. That's the point, Like people project their emotions on the situations. Half the time they haven't they're not even involved with.

00:30:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that Jamie Fox thing was that's the he he what he said. People tried to turn that into him meaning something that he did.

00:30:15
Speaker 3: Is that not this black faces? No, because to them, look it must be of this is a broad stroke of might be a false comparison in this case, they're the Jamie Fox in this situation. It's a wild stretch. But in their mind, they didn't do anything harmful to their culture. This means to nothing, it's harmless. It's theater. They're doing a live show. It's a costume show. To us, the outsiders, the Jennifer Aniston's in this situation, we're like, that's fucked up. You're offending me. Okay, So in America, so those are white people in Poland.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: So let me ask you something. So you think that these same white people in Poland, if they had the same type of production and they brought some people out and had them shackled looking like slaves, that they wouldn't think that that's offensive because that's not that didn't happen, that's not Polish culture. That like, they don't think, they don't know that that's offensive.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: Slavery. I think it's more universal to the world than blackface. Blackfaces from my understanding, a very specific American thing it is that happened in a time period.

00:31:21
Speaker 1: And right, it's an American thing that happened in an American time period, and we know that it's offensive and it's racist. This is American culture that they're performing. This is American music. These are American artists, Black American artist. Kendrick is a Black American artist. Kanye is a Black American artist. You mean to tell me that somebody over there in this big production for the television show, Yes, somebody did not think that that would be small.

00:31:44
Speaker 3: Because we're watching multiple performances with like, do you think do you think a theater full of people.

00:31:48
Speaker 1: So all right, so cool? Theater full of people, lights, cameras, action. You mean to tell me that nobody on that staff over there, not one single person would see that.

00:31:59
Speaker 3: This dying I'm dying on the hill. We're watching it happen. Obviously, no one shut it down. It's watch.

00:32:06
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that he's not rehearse.

00:32:08
Speaker 2: It down, paint them block.

00:32:10
Speaker 6: Obviously nobody shut it down because we're watching it right now. What Maul is telling you is, do you think nobody knew that this might be offensive and just said they just didn't.

00:32:18
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that can't be true, but I'm also saying there have been things in the past where offensive things have been pushed through to go live. We've seen that happen all the time, Companies pulling back the fucking Gucci with the sweater with the black the monkey face on it, like the kids in the the that sweater. Like we see shit like the H and M whatever. We see shit like that all the time. They get pushed through the chains, the powers it be, they get approved, and then once you hit the matter of public opinion, now you're susceptible to everybody's emotional vulnerabilities. That's when people push back. I look, this isn't cool. Obviously, I'm not like they should do what they want. It's not to their Yeah, it's fucked up, But I can also see from their perspective this means nothing to them other than an art and they're just doing theater.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: Or does it mean that they really just don't give a fuck.

00:33:06
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think they would do. I don't think it's that.

00:33:10
Speaker 2: Was it offensive When Channing Tatum dressed up like a woman and did Beyonce in a similar show to this one.

00:33:17
Speaker 1: Well, with the agenda that's going on now, No, that's actually progressive.

00:33:21
Speaker 3: Or like, Robert Downey Junior is blackface in Tropic Thunder. I thought that was fucking hilarious. He killed that character people. He eventually had to come back when everyone started caring about black people, but he had to go out and apologize for that role. But at the time it was a box office hit. Yeah.

00:33:37
Speaker 1: But the thing is, even in the movie, they knew what his character was trying to do, and they were like actively addressing it, like, Yo, you're not black.

00:33:46
Speaker 2: That kind was the bit he was doing. It was a black face bit.

00:33:49
Speaker 3: It's never acceptable. That's not No, that's not he apologized years later.

00:33:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it's a little different with that the comparison you're trying to make. But in Tropic Thunder, what Robert Downe and Junior did was they knew what obviously they was like, Yo, this is you're gonna be blackface, like.

00:34:07
Speaker 3: It's always sunny. Took a similar angle day to episode. They had to erase from their history because one of the characters wasn't blackface. When the show became too popular once again, when people started caring, they had to ultimately take the episode down like fifteen years after it came out. It was on Hulu, was streaming, you could get it anywhere, and then they're still off the internet.

00:34:25
Speaker 1: It's still it's still you know, and I get it. It happens in Jimmy Kimmel. We see it, Barkley, we see it. See it all the time, Howard Stern. Yeah, like I like this is that's my point. We see it all the time. But the people know that.

00:34:42
Speaker 2: Every work girl on Facebook's they that that's offensive.

00:34:46
Speaker 3: You're America, we know it's offensive.

00:34:48
Speaker 1: Right, But you're saying that if these people know who Kanye is and Kendrick is, know their songs, I'm willing to bet that they know that blackface is offensive. That's what I don't.

00:34:59
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think, don't even know if most of these people even speak English and maybe just be singing along to fucking melodies and words that sound good.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: It's like bts, like those guys are just rehearsing English soundings records. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not defending this. I think it's fucking dumb, but it's like I can also see from their side why it's a thing.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: Oh well, or what if this isn't black face and this is what black people in Poland look like?

00:35:21
Speaker 1: Hio, This is definitely not what black people.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: No one, no one ever researched. Have you guys been in Poland?

00:35:27
Speaker 1: Have you been to Poland?

00:35:28
Speaker 5: No?

00:35:29
Speaker 2: Have you Polish black guy?

00:35:31
Speaker 1: No?

00:35:32
Speaker 3: Man? After yacht he took the walk there, they might have some black people there.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, no they If they do, they don't look like that is all I'm saying.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: Did it compare to the Gunner concert that at Barclays who had a bigger impact?

00:35:45
Speaker 3: A hell of a seguey, holy shit, he's also who had a bigger impact?

00:35:49
Speaker 1: Listen, man, let me say something that.

00:35:51
Speaker 6: Man, everyone's really upset about snitching last that was an amazing show.

00:35:54
Speaker 2: It looked I mean I just of course saw clips. You talk to a few people.

00:35:57
Speaker 3: That was there was everywhere.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: List Man, I had it there too.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: You were just a restaurant.

00:36:02
Speaker 1: I just told y'all, You're whole weekend was outside listening. I'm not just sitting here talking.

00:36:11
Speaker 4: Gun I had an amazing band. His band was so good.

00:36:16
Speaker 1: Before we get to that, let me it's hard for me to sit here and not act like, you know, I got people in the federal system. I got family and friends that's locked up serving time. So when you start talking about allegedly ratting and snitching those things, I feel the way because I know people who have been personally affected by people cooperating with the government, with the court system. So we all know the situation with Gunna. Is he canceled? Are we listen to his music? Did he turn on his friends? Did he turn on y did he turn on Young Thug? All of these things we've been talking about since the whole White Cel case happened, and we spoke about it when Gonna cooperated and said that yes YSL is a gang and the whole yes man thing right when that happened, I'll be honest, I thought Gunna was finished after that. I thought there's no way that the culture is gonna support him. There's no way that he will be outside and people will embrace him. I was one of those people. I thought it was drastically different from the whole Other God's situation because I'm like, no, Gunn is one of ours, and we are not going to be cool with what he did. People are speculating if he talked to Young Thug and Young Thug was okay with him cooperating. It was maybe who knows, Gunna really didn't have anything to do with anything that was that the government is saying YSL was a part of. But I'll be honest, it's hard for me every time I hit that recond not to go yeah that ship is hard, Like I can't. It's like I feel whack because I'm like, yo, did he do bad? Like I feel like he did bad. I feel like Gunner did bad. I'm gonna be honest, but it's hard for me until I hear Young Thug say Yo, he's no good. I mean, I think he's gonna continue to sell out venues and perform and give a great show.

00:38:29
Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I think if Young Thug came out around the time his album came out and or said on his album, yeah, gun is no good. I still think this Barclay show sells the way it does.

00:38:43
Speaker 1: I don't know.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: I think his music moves the way it does.

00:38:45
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

00:38:48
Speaker 2: Drastically, I think people.

00:38:50
Speaker 3: I think it would.

00:38:51
Speaker 5: I agree because it's like people if people are on the fence now still to this day, it doesn't.

00:38:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're still on the fence, I think if but look how Thug was to give an official statement and say, yo he rated has he.

00:39:02
Speaker 3: Ever towards that publicly paused? But like, I don't like, I.

00:39:06
Speaker 1: Don't think so, I don't think so, I don't I've never I haven't seen Thug speak on it. Obviously he gonna put free Jeffrey on the on the Jeffery on the monitors and.

00:39:18
Speaker 6: Rapped his verse on one of the songs. Do y'all, And this is where I want, like, just like common sense to come in. Do y'all really think that he would be doing that and be comfortable doing that if there was static with him and thus.

00:39:34
Speaker 3: It looks great, it could be a way.

00:39:36
Speaker 2: It could be a way to get ahead of it or clean it up. There could be I'm sure there's a world because of the plea he took that him and Thug can't even speak to each other. And obviously jail calls are all recorded if you try to do a three way trick everything he's not talked to Thug. Of course, there's people in between that could say he fucks with you, were doesn't fuck with you? But I feel like I'm sure he's left it pretty open ended purposely, I think pretty young Thug like, yeah, I mean I said when he got out the first picture was still wise.

00:40:05
Speaker 1: Ut like, I mean, he obviously still has love for Thug and has he has his support. You know, he's supporting him. But that doesn't mean that he didn't cooperate and put Thug in a worse predicament than he was already in. That doesn't mean that he didn't do that. Now, whether Thug was like yo, I understand, you really don't have nothing to do with it. He wasn't really out here, you know, like in the streets. You're just an artist, So like, get yourself away from it as far as you get yourself as far away from it as you can. Maybe that's a conversation they had. But still in all it's like it's still a cooperation level though.

00:40:42
Speaker 4: That's bullshit.

00:40:44
Speaker 1: It's not bullshit when when you think about people that is going to possibly be in jail. Because if I'm saying, no, we're not a gang, and then you say, nah, yeah, wi Hella is a gang, yes, ma'am, it's like whoa fam? That wasn't my defense. I was saying, he wasn't.

00:40:56
Speaker 4: What the fuck that got to do with me? If all I do is make music.

00:40:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, then if all you did was make music, then I don't. I don't even think Gunna was really facing anything serious.

00:41:04
Speaker 2: He was in the Ricos.

00:41:05
Speaker 6: It was in the Rico. He could have went to jail for the rest of his life.

00:41:09
Speaker 1: I understand the music. I understand that. But what I'm saying is, did he tell or did he cooperate to a level that Thug didn't know what was gonna happen, or did they have a conversation, did they like, I need to know why I need to hear Thug say yo, he's no good?

00:41:25
Speaker 4: But why does that matter?

00:41:27
Speaker 1: Why does that matter?

00:41:28
Speaker 4: Because if I am, because if I make music and that's all I do.

00:41:31
Speaker 1: You can't reap the benefits of holding this flag and having the whole.

00:41:36
Speaker 6: When when you're advertising and the music business.

00:41:41
Speaker 1: No, no, the listen, listen, listen, Listen to what I'm saying. You can't reap the benefits, which is the problem that they had with the other dude. You can't reap the benefits of repping something and having this image and having this protection and all of that, and then you know you're reaping the benefits of it, but then when things go sour, you try to like, oh now I ain't gonna do with that. It's like that happens all the time. Of course it does, which is a problem. So what I'm saying is cool, we know what's selective politicing going on out here. People was hanging out with does that they know cooperated and acting like they don't know they cooperated. So I'm not this doesn't surprise me. I didn't think that the support for Gunner would be what it is. I'm gonna be honest. I did never thought I was see Hm at the Barclays that lit after all of that, She's gone. I never thought I would see that. I thought Gunner would go somewhere and just lay low, chill, wait till the whole case sh was over. We would hear from Thug like, you know, his stance on where he stands with Gunner. I thought we would get all of that before we got Gunner on stage looking like a young Kanye West at fucking at the Barclays. I never saw this happening, And again, I understand selective politicing. This isn't the music business, this isn't the streets. Even though people try to make the rules that's in the streets apply to business and music. It really doesn't, as much as you try to make it, it doesn't. What I do understand that if Gunna cooperated, if he cooperated, if he cooperated, because we don't know, we don't Well, we know he said yes, man, We know he took it. He took a deal, But I don't know if him and Thug had an agreement. I don't know that. We don't know that part.

00:43:18
Speaker 2: Well, you made an interesting point when this first happened that I did agree with. I thought the fans were gonna fuck with Gunna, but you were like, well, you got to think about the installation of Atlanta and all those artists that fuck with each other. It could get weird there, producers. I agreed with there. I was like, yeah, that's probably a good point. I think we're now going to see all those artists that were quiet purposely start to fuck with him because all the fans are fucking with him. He did that album with no features at all. He just did his Barclay shit. They if Gunner would have failed, all those artists would be like, yo, he's a rat. Can't fuck with him now? That he succeeded. I'm sure you're gonna see a lot of those artists that have been quiet now start being like, yo, it's cool.

00:44:02
Speaker 1: Yeah no, But that's selective politics. That's and that's and that's you know, that's what happens, that's what goes on. We see it all the time.

00:44:08
Speaker 2: I just hope gonna peak that behind the scenes, because I'm sure he reached out to a few artists that oh.

00:44:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did not reply again. Does that Does any of that change if the comes out tomorrow and say, yo, he's no good? Does that change not?

00:44:24
Speaker 6: Not?

00:44:25
Speaker 2: Based off his success and how much the fans have fucked with him, and how it didn't really have a step back in his career outside of time.

00:44:34
Speaker 3: That he's gotten bigger, bigger, if not anything. His first this is fuck you mean, it's his first global Top Billboard two hundred. It was number six.

00:44:45
Speaker 2: Casual fans fuck with him, the women fuck with him like it's gonna be hard to not fuck with gonna if you're one of those artists that rely on other artists to get hot.

00:44:54
Speaker 1: Well, we got to remember again at the end of the day too, you know, this is this is the music, This is the music.

00:44:59
Speaker 6: We're are people in there crying when I say crying, like crying like we were at a Mariah Carey concert.

00:45:05
Speaker 2: I've seen gunna.

00:45:06
Speaker 6: I swear to god, it was because it was a really emotional and I'm not a gun off, Like that's not really my type of music.

00:45:11
Speaker 4: I just you know, kind of went.

00:45:13
Speaker 3: We were there over.

00:45:15
Speaker 6: It was more I don't I don't even know the fucking song names, but it was more. It was right before he put up the free Jeffrey thing, and it was kind of like he did like a They was probably.

00:45:24
Speaker 1: Because they like, he gonna kill yours.

00:45:27
Speaker 2: He put a final this is the final tour, This is the final.

00:45:31
Speaker 3: They cried, the pushing py.

00:45:34
Speaker 6: He put up like a mom he took a break, and he put it when he was changing clothes or whatever. And he put up like a montage of like the everybody saying that like he was a rat and like just different ship.

00:45:43
Speaker 1: Where he put a montage of people call him.

00:45:45
Speaker 6: A rat and like, you know, just different ship of like him in jail and phone calls and stuff like that, and people got really emotional about it.

00:45:55
Speaker 2: I call him a rat, No, but I can see a montage of you and to your fans of you with jail calls and like family shit.

00:46:02
Speaker 6: I can see him because everybody, because deep don goodbody knows that Gunna is not no fucking gangster. He's a kid who wanted to be a rapper and that's what he is, and he ended up in a fucked up situation and almost lost the rest of his fucking life being involved with the wrong crew when.

00:46:16
Speaker 4: He was just trying to be a rapper.

00:46:18
Speaker 6: I don't know how that can't make you emotional. That would make I feel like if I was a fan, that would make me no.

00:46:22
Speaker 1: I could see Gunner crying, but I'm gonna be crying in row.

00:46:27
Speaker 2: Eight like well he was changing in the Daisy Duke.

00:46:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I can see Gunner like up there getting emotional like damn, like my life was almost over, you know, Like cool, I understand that. But if homie next to me starts crying my nigga from Brooklyn, I would be like, yo, what's up with you?

00:46:43
Speaker 2: Like, but that's not all Gunna fan.

00:46:45
Speaker 3: You look at your man's weird if he gets emotional.

00:46:47
Speaker 1: That Gunner show. If my homeboy cries at a Gunner show, we not friends, No, more.

00:46:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you don't know the metaphor of drip too hard.

00:46:54
Speaker 1: It's no, no, no, you can't cry the Gunner. Gunner don't even have no songs that make you we Well.

00:47:00
Speaker 3: We're looking at the set list now, I can't think of one record.

00:47:03
Speaker 2: What you make me cry? I'm saying, no, turns your back?

00:47:09
Speaker 1: He possibly turned his back? What are we talking about?

00:47:12
Speaker 2: No, there's the one on the album. I think it was turned.

00:47:15
Speaker 4: I have a soft spot for Gunner now after his show.

00:47:18
Speaker 3: See this is.

00:47:18
Speaker 1: What y'all do. This is what y'all do. Man, But look at this.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: Did you not see the clips? I've been When was the last time you've seen any artist period put on? And this is me based off looking at the clips. A show like that, I've been told, like, who did the set design? That was a fucking Kanye West show?

00:47:33
Speaker 4: That ship was crazy.

00:47:33
Speaker 1: You know, it looked great, The set look great, The show looked great. He looked great, He looked great. He lost the lining out, Yeah he look I mean I understand it, you know, but.

00:47:43
Speaker 6: Crying well outside of you, you know you not you may or may not. It's on the jury's out supporting him as far as you know him telling this show itself.

00:47:54
Speaker 1: Was I'm gonna be honest. If it's gonna come out and say a Gunner did bad, I can't support Gunner. Okay, I can't only because they, like I said, I have family and friends that have went through that type of shit and I know what that does. Like, I can't support that. Not saying that gun is still not a dope artist, but you support the.

00:48:09
Speaker 4: Person in jail for all the shit that he's in jail for, right, that's what you No.

00:48:12
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that. Listen what y'all do with your crew do like that's your business. Like I get it, but it's still like when you do certain a man that makes certain actions and he does certain things, it's like I can't I can't side with that. Two things could be right, like, nah, I don't fuck with your man, And I'm not saying he was a stand up citizen and he was a positive role model for the community. But I also don't support what you did either.

00:48:34
Speaker 4: But you're listen to thugs music. We won't listen to Gunns music.

00:48:37
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I wouldn't listen to Gunns music. I'm just saying I wouldn't be at his show. I'm not saying I would be. You know what I'm saying, I wouldn't be doing that, Like not, you can't bro It's certain things that I just stand on that I just like, I can't support that. I can't support that type of person, Like I can't do it. I can't support somebody that betrays their friends and turns their back on their friends and does grammy shit today friends, I can't do it.

00:48:55
Speaker 4: But the murderers, for sure.

00:48:57
Speaker 2: Did the guy deserve it?

00:48:59
Speaker 1: I don't know. We were talking about listening. That's a whole another Now you're getting into a whole another part of a conversation.

00:49:03
Speaker 4: I just think we championed the wrong shit.

00:49:05
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not championing nothing. I'm just saying, you saying, do you support the murderer? Like who did he kill? Was that a stand up citizen he killed? Was that a role model? Was that he on an honor roll?

00:49:14
Speaker 3: Like?

00:49:14
Speaker 1: I don't know who he kills? You, that's a part of the street shit, Like it's gonna be lives lost. But if y'all all in the same game, like you know what I'm saying, Like it's like, okay, cool, that's what y'all was doing.

00:49:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to Mall's point there, like I could completely disagree if two guys go to murder somebody and then one who fully participated in the murder was like, well, I can get out of jail and let me just put it on him.

00:49:34
Speaker 1: I can't support that.

00:49:35
Speaker 2: But that's doublely fucked up.

00:49:37
Speaker 1: That's not what we were talking about, Gunn. That's I'm just saying. I'm just answering the question. I can't support any of it. I'm not saying I support any of it. I'm just saying, like, yo, I can't. I can't support somebody that turned it back on their friends. I can't do it.

00:49:55
Speaker 2: Personally. I don't really care more about uh thugs respond to what Gunna did more than care about fucking Ashton Kutcher and the chick from Family Guy and their character letters for their man. Danny Masterson from that seventies show sentenced to thirty years to life for two rapes and for all those people that are big advocates of like, oh, I need to hear the whole thing. This wasn't like sexual assault, this wasn't this was two forceful rapes. Like this guy deserves to be buried under the fucking jail.

00:50:24
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

00:50:27
Speaker 2: Ashton and Meg Meg from Family Guy sent in character witness letters to the judge, suggesting that they didn't know him as this, they know him as a pillar in the community and they spend so much time on set and he please don't put him away because he has a family. What's this going to do to his kids? All this bullshit that they thought no one would ever find out, which is typically how we've come to see this year that these character letters end up being.

00:50:54
Speaker 1: Well first and foremost, when you write in a character letter, if you haven't had to write a character letter, you absolutely know what the person is facing.

00:51:03
Speaker 2: You've never done my character letters for my parking tickets. It bothers me to this day.

00:51:07
Speaker 1: You had to get character letters from parking tickets.

00:51:09
Speaker 2: Get the boot off the car.

00:51:12
Speaker 1: When you write character letters, yes, you're writing to the person that you know, trying to let the judge you know, know, like this person is this type of person, you know whatever, whatever. And usually if it's a high profile person writing a letter, it just means a little more. It's like, Okay, this person has people in different places that they know that can vouch for them that they're a good person. And one of the things that I saw in the apology video that Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis posted was, first of all, you can tell that this rescripted t that they were reading something. You can tell that you know this was like pr one on one, like like a.

00:51:50
Speaker 2: Bad hostage video.

00:51:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, they knew what the Danny Masterson was facing. I don't know how anyone can write a character letter for somebody facing rape. I don't. I mean, if you're my best friend and you're facing a rape charge and you say, yo, listen, man, I need you to write this character letter for me, for the judge, and I'm a celebrity, I'm gonna probably be like, yo, you know what. I love you, I'm praying for you. I pray that this is not true what they're accusing you of. Because again, you can know somebody and not know them at the same time, Like you can know somebody like nah, he wouldn't do that, and you don't know what they're doing behind the closed doors. You don't know what they're doing when they're not with you, so you can never speak to that. You could be like, damn, that would shock me if it is true and this person is a rapist, because I never got that type of energy from them. I never seen them really, you know, in an aggressive situation. I never like this. The person that I know is a good person. But when you're a celebrity and you're writing a character letter for a friend that's facing rape, you have to know that there's going to be some backlash. You have to know that the scene it's going to be seen, it's gonna be backlash. There's gonna be people that's like, how can you write this character letter for this piece of shit? And then if you're gonna apologize, it can't be scripted, it can't be something like what they posted that was just like, come on, this is we know that your publishers wrote this, and was like say it like this, say this, like just say yo, listen, he was a friend of ours. Turns out he's a piece of shit. So yes, we did write character letters. I feel like shit that I wrote those letters, and I'm sorry to the families or the victims. I'm sorry to the victims for writing a letter to seem like I was trying to say this person maybe didn't do this. We wouldn't.

00:53:53
Speaker 2: But it was after he was even convicted. So is there even a pr cleanup? And that's why you know this can this.

00:54:00
Speaker 1: Year is gonna happened after he was Nah, this was.

00:54:04
Speaker 2: You do character letters letters before sentencing they have been convicted for the crime, and before sentencing the victims family gets to go up and talk to the judge. Then there's character.

00:54:14
Speaker 1: There's no way you wished that letter.

00:54:16
Speaker 2: Side note, I think for certain crimes that people are convicted for, there should not be the ability to have character letters. If there is a minor assault and they've never committed any crime before. I do think it makes a lot of sense people around them to be like, yo, this is not his character. It was a bad situation. Understand that he's going to do time, but this is not who he is. Please don't go crazy. When you've raped two people? What character could you? Could someone say?

00:54:39
Speaker 1: Oh character? Could they be speaking speaking to like it doesn't matter at that point.

00:54:43
Speaker 3: Yeah he was.

00:54:44
Speaker 2: He was a blast at Crafty on set. What the fuck does.

00:54:47
Speaker 1: That have to do with this?

00:54:48
Speaker 3: Right?

00:54:49
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just thought that it was very, very careless and dumb on Ashton Kutcher and me La Kuni's part to write a letter. I understand again that was at one point a really close friend of theirs. They worked together for years. But in this situation you have to completely be like, fam, I'm not writing a letter for that, and I can't do that. I can't put my name on anything that's going to the courts on your behalf.

00:55:13
Speaker 2: Right now, like we've said, this is the worst history of PR. I feel like in the last five years across the board, what would make anyone listen to a PR person to sit them down to do this video. Yeah, I'm not saying they didn't need to address to the worlds because they are celebrities and sent in a letter about to their rapist friend, right, but this is what you came up with. Yeah, it's stupid and the dumbest thing I've ever seen. What I need to know the PR process Within that, it almost looked like they didn't even talk about it before both sat down and hadn't seen each other in ten years, and then just tried to read something yeah while looking up at birds and shit.

00:55:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's again. You know, when you're talking about sexual assault, it for me personally, it will be very hard for me to write a letter on anybody's behalf when it comes to sexual assault, Like, I'm just not If you don't want to be my friend after this or whatever, I just don't. I'm not putting my name on anything going to the courts on your behalf if you're fighting a sexual assault case, I'm just not doing it.

00:56:17
Speaker 2: And to even start the PR video with with Meg going, we've spent our entire history, which I didn't even understand what that means, Like, how long have you been around entire history of the world. We've been defending victims. Why because you guys sang in a COVID video. Yeah, like I did not know Aston and her to be leading the victim drink.

00:56:38
Speaker 1: And then I you know, if you just start looking deep at the video, they you know, look like they haven't gotten any sleep, like they've been up stressed about this. You know, no makeup, no you know, just wrinkled shirt and we're sorry, and you know, we're just feeling really bad about this. It's like, no, y'all sorry that it got out that y'all wrote these letters. I'm not sorry about writing the letters. Y'all are doing this because now the public knows that you wrote these letters and sentiment, which is what people do. Again, it's selective politicking. It happens all the time and hopefully you know, but Ashton doesn't write any more letters anytime soon.

00:57:18
Speaker 2: What did it do though?

00:57:20
Speaker 3: Nothing for them?

00:57:21
Speaker 2: This this PR video to clean up quote unquote does nothing but again made it worse, way worse, because at least at this point we didn't see the like the letters were never they were just on a list of and them being the names that they are, were attacked as a couple in their status all whatever the case may be.

00:57:39
Speaker 3: But then yeah, putting yourself in front of the camera and expose which is more vulnerable for criticism.

00:57:45
Speaker 1: But what you don't understand is again even this type of shit, it's just for the moment. People really don't give a fuck.

00:57:52
Speaker 3: Well, it's an ego thing they need to address. There's like twelve fifteen.

00:57:57
Speaker 1: And they're just and they're in business with so many other people of course, so where they're trying to like, you know, it's save face type of thing. But nobody, I hate to say it like that and I don't want to sound sensitive, but at the end of the day, nobody gives a fuck. Yeah, And nobody gives.

00:58:12
Speaker 3: Christina Ritchie, another actress, brought up an incredible point she posted to her story pretty much saying like, you know, the people who are in these positions of the sexual assaulters and rapists can be great to you. It doesn't mean they're not horrible to other people in their lifexactly. So you know, it's people live double lives all the time.

00:58:32
Speaker 1: Which is why I writing a letter on somebody's behalf that's facing sexual assault. It is crazy. I can't guarantee that, yo, when you left when we yelled cut on the fucking seventy show and you went home, I can't guarantee that you didn't fucking meet a girl at a bar and fucking sexually assault that at night. I can't get Just because we shot a whole season of that seventy show together, I can't vouch for that.

00:58:53
Speaker 2: And I think it's offensive that even in their pr video that they were like, well, we really advocate and hope all victims find like that's a that's a spit in the face two actual victims. When you're writing a letter based off somebody that's victim victimized people in that regard, like you look, I just I really want to know what pr agent is probably making four hundred grand a year between the two of them that mocked that up. Yeah, like that's fucking crazy. Give me that salary and I'll say, hey, shut the fuck up.

00:59:26
Speaker 1: Again. Uh fuck Danny Masterison. I hope he fucking rots underneath the jail and me and Ashton sure, yeah, fuck him too, And fuck anybody that supports rapists, and uh fu anybody that rapes. I think those are the those are the people that we need to We need to find a different punishment for pedophiles and rapists.

00:59:47
Speaker 3: We do.

00:59:48
Speaker 1: We need to send a clear, clear cut message that those type of crimes have no place in society. And we're not going to waste money on.

00:59:57
Speaker 3: Trials bullet who.

00:59:59
Speaker 1: We're not going to We're not gonna waste money on having you housed and fed three meals a day. We're not gonna do none of that. We're going to get you the fuck out of here.

01:00:08
Speaker 2: And even with you know there is prison justice, but you know they're trying their best with PC and everything, there should be some type of sentence that if you don't agree with death penalties, that there's a scheduled ass whooping every day. I'm really not trying to like trow or make jokes or anything.

01:00:24
Speaker 3: You're like, why is that not.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: A viable thing. I'm telling you a scheduled ass whopping every day.

01:00:32
Speaker 1: We just need to see a convicted pedophile, a convicted rapist and put it on that we know is like, yo, he molested these kids, he did it. We just need to see them on television, like the eight o'clock news, ten o'clock news. Just show us, y'all throwing them niggas to the lions. Show it to us. We need to see lions mauling them and ripping them apart live on air. And I guarantee you any of these nasty motherfuckers that's running them I thinking about touching a kid or thinking about sexually assaulting somebody, they'll think again, guarantee. And you just have to see it, like, oh, that's what would happen.

01:01:10
Speaker 2: A twenty four hour news channel that just goes from prison to prison. Yeah, and you can just watch them constantly get.

01:01:16
Speaker 3: Their America a rich history of that.

01:01:18
Speaker 2: I think pedophiles would rethink it a little bit. Not all of them, of course, but if there was a mainstream channel that just constantly showed twenty four hours out the day, turn it on live in prison systems of just a constant beating. I think we would protect some kids.

01:01:36
Speaker 1: I think we see a dcline in sexual assault cases. I think we do.

01:01:41
Speaker 3: It's a very old playbook used by like the sundown towns. Yeah, like the public.

01:01:49
Speaker 1: But even if you look at other places in the world, when I think there's some value in Yeah, when.

01:01:53
Speaker 3: You look at other places in the world, the tactic like it makes sense. It's like, yeah, this is what will happen if you did. It's a scare tactic.

01:01:58
Speaker 2: I believe in the humanitarian ship and everyone's a person. But they touched children and raked window. Those those are not sorry that I want to throw the human aspect out of the window.

01:02:09
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, fuck them. They don't get the human aspect. Those are animals, you know, so we feed them to animals.

01:02:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I really want to talk to a judge at some point in my life and ask them what character letters really do I just I don't get them.

01:02:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's certain cases.

01:02:26
Speaker 2: It's a waste of time.

01:02:27
Speaker 1: I think it's certain cases. It may help sexual assault things like that. We don't need well, I don't. We don't need to hear that this dude was all this person was a good person on set at fucking seventy show. We don't need to hear that.

01:02:39
Speaker 2: Fuck that victims families that understand to be able to talk to the judge after they've been convicted. Yeah, what could anyone say?

01:02:48
Speaker 1: There's nothing, There's nothing, there's nothing, which is why.

01:02:51
Speaker 2: I feel like the probably doesn't skims those, it doesn't even read them.

01:02:55
Speaker 3: No, I mean because like who would have to write one for it to matter? Like, That's what I'm trying to get at. The way would be less about the words in the letter, but more so the person that wrote the letter, Like what the person wrote it, That's what I'm saying. Like, if you know, I can't come to mind. But like if Obama wrote you a letter, I'm like, oh, okay, well that's Obama.

01:03:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:03:14
Speaker 3: But like your friend from a set that you did well, not worked on TV with.

01:03:18
Speaker 2: Crack case, Yeah, probably not the best character true. Speaking of music, BT Hip Hop Award nominations came in over the weekend.

01:03:26
Speaker 1: Your favorite time of the year, it is.

01:03:27
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the UT Awards can have a streak to live up to, not necessarily. I want to start by saying I like the Hip Hop Awards because it's the only show that really just focuses on hip hop and categories that other award shows would never highlight. So I always try to support the Hip Hop Awards the best I can. Now you're saying I have a streak to keep up with, Off Mike, you were talking about Lyricist of the Year, and if you remember last year, I got banned from the Barclay Center because I said Jack Harlow shouldn't be Lyricist of the Year. Now I think you should con say you the streak and just somebody where you won't be able to go to their show. So let's run through twenty twenty three's Lyricists of the Year category.

01:04:08
Speaker 1: All right, So, Lyricists of the Year category for this year's BT Hip Hop Awards twenty one Savage Andrew two thousand, Love Andrew three thousand, Icon he should not be there. He had one versus year one verse. Yep, he should not be there.

01:04:21
Speaker 2: On Killer Mike's album, it was cool Verse, Cool Cool Verse.

01:04:24
Speaker 1: Its one hundred two thousand, never going to be a bad verse. But Lyricists of the Year based off of one verse. Absolutely, that seems a little lazy to put him there. Burn A Boy, Cardi B Conway, Drake, j Cole, Kendrick Lamar who won last year.

01:04:41
Speaker 2: Which I think is still crazy and this so I got in trouble last year. I think it's crazy that Kendrick is on it this year if we're not basing it off his Mister Marie album. He had one song with Kean. Sorry, no, the same way I said last year, jay Z shouldn't be on the list.

01:04:57
Speaker 1: Now. Is it fair for twenty one and Drake to be there because they had an album together?

01:05:02
Speaker 3: Like?

01:05:02
Speaker 1: Is that fair?

01:05:03
Speaker 3: Yeah?

01:05:03
Speaker 2: I think they both not, and I think twenty one was rapping. I think twenty one on this is totally fine. You had an issue with burna Boy, whether you want to admit it on microphone or not.

01:05:14
Speaker 1: I don't think burn and Boy is a lyricist.

01:05:17
Speaker 2: Why not?

01:05:17
Speaker 1: No, I just don't think he's a lyricist. I think he makes great music, great songs, but I wouldn't say he's a lyricist, not saying like when you put him in Conway in the same like, what are you talking about?

01:05:30
Speaker 2: Not to say, he's all afrobeats, but people in afrobeats it's a different type of lyricism. I still think you could put Lyricist of the Year with someone that is leading that genre in America.

01:05:42
Speaker 1: Is it hip hop?

01:05:44
Speaker 3: Yeah?

01:05:45
Speaker 2: I think Burn and Boy takes a lot from hip hop the same way we take a lot from afrobeats and vice versa. I'm not mad at them trying to add him in there. Guy's gonna hate me for this. I think Cardi b definitely belongs in there. Off the streets of a feature she had, Oh oh yeah, you know who's missing on here that I think is kind of blasphemous and very out of touch, Jack Carlow. Besides Jack Carlow, Central C and Dave separately, whatever together, however you want to put.

01:06:11
Speaker 1: It, that's what you think is missing.

01:06:12
Speaker 2: How could you not put off that ep when it comes to lyrics that Central C or Dave would not be on Lyricists of the Year at the.

01:06:18
Speaker 3: Beat When you're giving someone that put one verse out a spot on this.

01:06:21
Speaker 2: And and burna Boy, you're doing international already. Dave in Central C is hip hop?

01:06:27
Speaker 1: Where's nas at?

01:06:30
Speaker 2: I don't know if this made if the last project made the timeframe.

01:06:34
Speaker 1: Okay, where's Killing Mike at the.

01:06:36
Speaker 2: Fact that Killer Mike is not on here is yes, absolutely insane.

01:06:40
Speaker 1: Literally, that's what I'm saying. But you got burn a boy. You know what I'm saying. Y'all got Cardi?

01:06:44
Speaker 2: You got you don't think Cardi belongs.

01:06:46
Speaker 1: There over Nas and Killer Mike, not over them per se.

01:06:51
Speaker 2: But I would take off you can't. I would take off Kendrick, who only put out one verse or two verses technically, before I take Cardi off, who put out four or five guest features that were her rapping. Yeah, but we have quotables with Kill Mike.

01:07:07
Speaker 1: Killer Mike arguably has the best hip hop album.

01:07:09
Speaker 3: Of the year.

01:07:10
Speaker 2: You're missing my point. I'm not saying Killing Mike does not belong on. I wouldn't take Cardi b off to put Killer Mike on. I would say someone else off. Because Kendrick and Andre two thousand had one verse. Okay, take them off and put Killer Mike.

01:07:22
Speaker 1: I'm mad at that Nas. You don't think Nas deserves to be.

01:07:25
Speaker 2: If he didn't meet the uh the timeline, then no.

01:07:29
Speaker 1: He's He's nominated for Impact track. That'll be year with thirty oh okay, well.

01:07:35
Speaker 2: Then yeah, if thirty made it in the timeline, I take everything. I stepped back.

01:07:39
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Dog, That's all I'm saying. Like, what are we talking about? Nas?

01:07:43
Speaker 2: Like?

01:07:43
Speaker 1: How is he not up for Lyricist City Year.

01:07:45
Speaker 2: I'm a little shocked that they didn't throw Lotto in there either.

01:07:48
Speaker 4: I'm very shocked they didn't throw Lotto in there.

01:07:50
Speaker 2: I thought that was gonna be kind of full of women this year as far as Lyricists of the Year went. Yeah, because the girls do actually wrap way more than the guys now ironically, so I was shocked that she wasn't in there. But I mean, I don't want to get into every single nomination Lyricists of the Year. You know, we have a streak going on upsetting people for some weird reason when it comes.

01:08:11
Speaker 1: To basic well, BT, based off of this category that y'all have put together, the great minds over there, BT, I would have to go with Conway, Okay.

01:08:25
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm never going to say Conway is not.

01:08:27
Speaker 1: That's my vote for this year out of these that you have it Drake obviously we know, uh, Kendrick, I'm not sure again why we'll off for one verse this year while he's there, Who.

01:08:38
Speaker 4: Do you think is gonna win?

01:08:39
Speaker 3: Now?

01:08:39
Speaker 6: Who you know should win? Who do you think BT is gonna give the award to?

01:08:44
Speaker 3: Uh?

01:08:44
Speaker 4: Because my vote is Cardier or Drake.

01:08:46
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Cardio or Drake as well. Uh. And if they don't give.

01:08:51
Speaker 1: It to it's always easy to say you think Drake because Drake is Drake, but I'm gonna Drake aside. I would say they're gonna either go twenty one Savage or I'm trying to see what was with the twenty one Savage or no twenty one Savage or j Cole.

01:09:17
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean Cole did have some impactful verses. I do find it odd though, that's the one category that could lean in to try to get a different fan base, Like you can put twenty not that twenty one is not someone that actually has lyrics, but you can put these guys in Artists of the Year, you can put them an Album of the Year. Why not leave that lyricist category to maybe get some of the underground fans or the nerdy hip hop guys to maybe want to watch it, or them an incentive or real lyricists that's what.

01:09:48
Speaker 3: No, But like, don't fill it with commercial artists, Like.

01:09:50
Speaker 2: It doesn't make much sense. I think it's cool that you put burna boy there because I think it's interesting because he does have lyrics. But you can put him in so many other categories. Why not try to use that one to bring a new audience in. Because if you have all the guys that actually do do well with shows and sell eight hundred tickets per city, dude, which adds the fuck up. Yeah, you could throw Boldie in there, like you could throw you could throw No Ransom in there.

01:10:14
Speaker 1: There's other lyricists that you can throw in it for sure.

01:10:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they should really make that category the way they tried to do with this Ciphers before the Ciphers got too big, Like you could really highlight people to bring a new audience in and make that a thing.

01:10:27
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully they get it right. They didn't get the nominations right, so it's hard to get the who you give the award to right.

01:10:35
Speaker 2: But is it dead for Cyphers? Like did they just take the greatest thing that we loved about this award show and got rid of it? I just have fully capped, like going.

01:10:44
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people just kind of moved away from the cipher thing, or they probably turned it. People started turning it down because it just gets to a point like how many times y'all want me to prove that I could rap?

01:10:56
Speaker 2: I liked it with the new people, though, to be honest.

01:10:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some of them, a lot of them names was like, yeah, we didn't want to You didn't want to hear people you didn't really know about just rapping. Like that wasn't the lore that the draw was, Like people that we know go crazy, we actually get to see them in a cipher. I like it trying to introduce us to new mcason, new rappers. I'm not mad at that. But the draw was really to be able to see people that you know, get busy on songs and on records. Now let's see them in the essence of hip hop and put them in a cipher and let them and let them go. Yeah, that was that's what it was, And obviously it's not that anymore.

01:11:31
Speaker 2: But well, let me let me ask you. If burna Boy does win a BT Award, does that make him a world champion or just an American champion?

01:11:39
Speaker 1: That would make him a BET champion one.

01:11:43
Speaker 2: So what if you get a BT award, are you a world champion? We would have to act just in America, Well, let's ask no Allows all international.

01:11:49
Speaker 1: No, no, we would have to ask No Allows that. No Allows came out weeks ago and had some things to say about NBA teams crowning the NBA champions is world You really.

01:12:00
Speaker 2: Bought into that fucking bullshit me and now you're still buying.

01:12:03
Speaker 1: Into No I understood what he was saying. It's like, it's it's it's correct, this is the NBA, this is cool National Basketball Association.

01:12:10
Speaker 2: So it was perfect timing because they had whatever they.

01:12:14
Speaker 1: Had, the Fever Games, the World Games. Yeah, you see what they did the World Games, and No Allows had, you know, things to say, like, what are you to champ? What are you champions of the like the United States? Like cool? But now at the World Games where you're actually competing against other countries, and.

01:12:32
Speaker 2: Now the United States D team has no Alliles feeling himself.

01:12:36
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, see nasty. This is this is what y'all do. When y'all are proven wrong.

01:12:40
Speaker 3: You'll find a way.

01:12:42
Speaker 1: But it is because it's some of the best players in the NBA, the NBA. The NBA is the greatest basketball league in the world. Correct is the NBA is the NBA the greatest basketball league in the world.

01:12:54
Speaker 3: Most of the people on the international team, okay, okay.

01:12:57
Speaker 1: So so with that being said, they sent some of their best talent from the best basketball association in the world. These are still some of the best players in the NBA. Whether you want to.

01:13:08
Speaker 3: Say it's other of the best players in the NBA too.

01:13:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I will cap this conversation immediately. The All tournament team, which is the guys that were the best from the entire tournament. All five to seven I believe I think it was seven were NBA players. There was not one person on the All Tournament team that was not playing in the NBA.

01:13:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:13:28
Speaker 2: That proved no Alliles wrong.

01:13:30
Speaker 1: That proved him wrong.

01:13:31
Speaker 2: The best players in this World championship thing that you can hold the medal and say from the USA, shit all NBA.

01:13:40
Speaker 3: Players, Anthony Edward.

01:13:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, but everybody that was the best in this tournament plays in the National Basketball League. Yes, because the NBA is the national basketball.

01:13:49
Speaker 1: League in the world.

01:13:50
Speaker 2: So you're the world champion, but the entire roster and Karl Anthony Towns is from New Jersey, it's not from the DR.

01:13:57
Speaker 1: The entire roster of these teams are not in players though. Yeah, if they have one or two stars and some of like Yokis didn't play in.

01:14:05
Speaker 3: This yes he did.

01:14:06
Speaker 1: Yokis did not.

01:14:07
Speaker 3: Play, Yeah, but you know where.

01:14:09
Speaker 2: He does play.

01:14:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I'm just saying this. There's still a lot of players. There's a lot of good NBA players that did not play in this tournament. But that's not the that are from other countries.

01:14:17
Speaker 2: The point is the best players that we're in the NBA.

01:14:21
Speaker 1: Yes, but on other teams from other countries, their entire roster are not NBA players. They may have one or two players on their entire rosters that are in the NBA, their entire roster one through twelve are not NBA players. This is what I'm trying to get you out to understand. Yes, they may have one player on their team that's an NBA player.

01:14:40
Speaker 3: You know why they're not unble because they're not good enough to play in the NBA.

01:14:43
Speaker 1: That's not true, bro, What are you talking about?

01:14:46
Speaker 3: It is true.

01:14:46
Speaker 1: There are a lot of players that are playing overseas. That are better than a lot of players in the NBA. Is that's not That's not how it goes all the time. Just because you're not in the NBA doesn't.

01:14:52
Speaker 3: I understand the politics of it. But a lot of the times that these players want to come, the NBA is the premier league. It's the best league by far.

01:15:00
Speaker 1: It is right. And so what I'm saying is because we said this is the d team, this is not the best. Yes, we know Steph Curry, Lebron Kevin Durant, those guys weren't on this team. Yes, we understand that. What I'm saying is those guys that were on the team that were representing the USA are still some of the best players in the world. That's all I'm saying. And they fared how they fared and matched up against other parts of the countries from other parts of the world. They lost.

01:15:27
Speaker 3: They got their NBA players.

01:15:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then Todd roster is not that German team. That entight. German team is not all NBA players.

01:15:34
Speaker 3: We are talking about Dennis Schroeder.

01:15:38
Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder is not a top ten point guard in the NBA, and he destroyed that team.

01:15:42
Speaker 3: The NBA player.

01:15:45
Speaker 2: That's all we're getting. They all playing the.

01:15:46
Speaker 3: League about what country? We're talking about what league?

01:15:49
Speaker 1: You're making my point. They're all good players, even that D team that I keep saying is a D team. Dennis Schroeder, if he wanted to play for the USA, would probably have been on that D team. And he wasn't. He played on his should have many cooked them. He played on his birth country, the NBA Germany. The rest of his teammates weren't NBA players on that German team for.

01:16:08
Speaker 3: Five star players.

01:16:10
Speaker 1: All right, man, cool, you got it.

01:16:12
Speaker 6: Screw as far as that NBA point, because you know, I'm a girl. I don't know that much about sports. But just to clarify, killing I play, if I play ten minutes, if I play ten minutes in the championship game, right, I'm on the Nuggets. I play ten minutes in the championship game, I'm not really a starter or whatever. If when we win, I'm still technically the NBA champ, right because my team.

01:16:34
Speaker 2: Won, Yeah, by the champions So how do you.

01:16:37
Speaker 6: Not understand Noah's saying that you don't just because you won and your team won, that you're not the best player. You can't say that you're the best player in the world or you're the best team in the world, unless you're a starter or unless you're one of those.

01:16:49
Speaker 2: Okay, most of the relay runners, because it takes four people to do it a four by one, most of them are not in the finals. Maybe one or two at most are typically in the finals of the one hundred meters. They're not the fastest guys in the world. They are the fastest four in the United States. They're world champions, they're not individually like it would be the same thing in that regard. You're still a world champion, yet you're not even close to the fastest human being that was at the Games that year. You're just the first leg of the championship relay team.

01:17:20
Speaker 4: But you can still say that you're part of the best year.

01:17:23
Speaker 2: So we're saying the same thing. The guy in the Nuggets that played ten minutes is still a world champion, And that's kind of a separate point because we're saying world.

01:17:30
Speaker 1: He campion because he didn't play against the world He played against the fucking New York.

01:17:33
Speaker 2: Knicks who have the world there.

01:17:36
Speaker 1: But you talk like, I don't understand how that so hardy how to understand you can't be named world champions when your league is an American league. It's that simple. And so Noe loows it wasn't like he was shitting on it. He was just saying, like, yo, we can't be arrogating name NBA champions world champions.

01:17:51
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what if we did a league of the best, not in the United States. The entire world is involved, and we pick the best possible players and then we mix them up in different teams. But it's still the whole world. It's still the whole world. We mix them up, put them in different teams, and do the World games. Is the team that wins the World champions Again, let's say it's not just in America, not just in the continental United States plus Toronto.

01:18:17
Speaker 1: It is the feb tournament and.

01:18:19
Speaker 2: We just know. But we just mix and match. We just take the best players in the world about not by country, just the best players in the entire world, mix and match them, put them in random teams, call them whatever the fuck fucks, and this is against the other guys. Okay, so the NBA and then whoever wins that is the world champion.

01:18:37
Speaker 1: But you can't but but This is what you're not understanding. They're playing against other teams in the U s A. They're not playing against.

01:18:43
Speaker 3: Teams those players that are playing. Yes, yes, the game, the games and every time Antarctica, but the teams are hand crafted by the best players in the world. There's no you need to be born in America league, fucking serve. Look at the all these players that are playing. This is to the point, the top seven players in the tournament one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Eight of the nine players listed here are all in our NBA players not born in America. To Rory's point, you don't need to be born in this country to play in that league. It's just the best players, period, the best.

01:19:21
Speaker 2: Players in the world.

01:19:22
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, just because.

01:19:24
Speaker 2: They have an American fucking city that Nike sponsors on their shirt for fucking capitalistic reasons does not mean this is not the most the greatest league.

01:19:34
Speaker 3: Inn it's also the most global.

01:19:36
Speaker 1: But that's not what Noah Llows was saying. He was just saying, like.

01:19:41
Speaker 2: You can't happy when the metal and is talking shit.

01:19:44
Speaker 1: I mean he's mean he's been proven right, I mean he's been proven right.

01:19:48
Speaker 3: Well, he may he may have poked the bear because after this loss, it looks like the goats of the league are looking to make a return next summer, including Lebron Curry, kd Ad Tatum, and Draymond. Well, Draymond, he's trash, but like the we're not putting him in that category. Let's relax. Come on, He's a fucking glorified role player.

01:20:12
Speaker 2: They would need, especially on that team.

01:20:14
Speaker 3: No, I get it, his role is a valuable but like, it's just I can't stand like the pedestal he gets put on. He's a he's a passer and the defender.

01:20:20
Speaker 2: All right, what do you think is going to happen if Curry, Durant, a d Jason Tatum, Raymond Green, see James, Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving, Devin Booker, Like, like, how do we think that's going to.

01:20:35
Speaker 3: If we actually got our real talent out there? No knock to the guys to play.

01:20:38
Speaker 2: I like the movie Miracle.

01:20:40
Speaker 1: List well, listen what happens when we listen? Y'all name some of the greatest players in the world, just now, some of the greatest players in the league, all American Hall of Famous, all of these guys. One day, what I'm saying, is this we just saw the Olympics that had the Redean team. Was it the Redeemed Team?

01:20:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them with Kobe the redem Team two thousand and eight.

01:21:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one. They just did the documentary all right. Yeah, they didn't just run through competition that that final game was very close.

01:21:10
Speaker 3: We're not saying that guys can't play.

01:21:13
Speaker 1: So this is all I'm and this is this is just going to what I think Noah Llowles was saying. Even if y'all take the best in the NBA, the legends, the rest of the world has caught up as far as talent, as far as players, to where it's like, yo, it's not the landslide that we once thought it would be. The rest of the world is like, this player is coming from other parts of the world. In the n Luka Doncic, that's our plant, right. But what I'm saying is now when Luca goes to his part of the world he's from, it represents his country, the USA. Even though y'all have some NBA champions on this team, y'all, y'all gonna it's not gonna be that easy to just beat that team. From but.

01:21:57
Speaker 2: You're taking a different Elijah. What he was saying was, why are you guys the world champions when the NBA is not the world Of course, we are not saying that if you take USA versus Spain, that Spain could not beat the USA. We're not saying that doesn't exist in the world. We're saying that the NBA is the best of the best, so we are more than comfortable calling them world champions when they win.

01:22:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is it.

01:22:24
Speaker 2: Noah Llows did not say, Hey, the USA could not y'all to another team.

01:22:30
Speaker 1: Y'all are missing it still. Even though there's some.

01:22:32
Speaker 2: Great USA has lost a bronze medal at one point.

01:22:35
Speaker 1: Even though there are some great international players in the NBA, most of the players that are in the NBA are from America. And that's what I was saying, Like, you can't say world champions. Yes, there's some international players that are dominating NBA right now. Cool, that doesn't mean that you can now name it the World Championship, the NBA Trophy, the World Championship because there are other players from other parts of the world that are great in the NBA. No, because it's still mostly American players. In the league.

01:23:01
Speaker 3: Currently, the NBA has one hundred and twenty international players from representing forty different countries. It's pretty global.

01:23:09
Speaker 1: It is a global game. That's still not a lot of fucking half the league. It's not like his half the league is international. No, And that's all I think. That's all Noah was saying, was like, Yo, just call it the NBA Championship. That's it.

01:23:22
Speaker 3: Four hundred fifty players in the NBA. By the way, so four hundred and fifty, one hundred and twenty aren't American born?

01:23:29
Speaker 1: Aren't American?

01:23:30
Speaker 2: Aren't And do you think for the most part, of course, I'm sure there's a few exceptions that out of those four hundred and fifty, those are the top four hundred and fifty players in the world.

01:23:40
Speaker 1: Out of the four hundred and fifty.

01:23:42
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's exceptions where there's there's ten to fifteen that are playing overseas that maybe should be in the league and they discovered yet yea, that's my point. Yeah, but either way, those are the best of the best.

01:23:55
Speaker 1: USA got embarrassed. Yeah, Dylan Brooks, I don't know, Dealing Brooks is not one of the best players in the league.

01:24:04
Speaker 3: Kardashian curse man. Sorry, not l Brooks.

01:24:07
Speaker 1: He absolutely killed Team USA and he's not one of the best players in the league. Good player, but not one of the best in the league. Yeah, I think.

01:24:14
Speaker 2: We have voicemails.

01:24:15
Speaker 1: The voicemails you got mail, Julian, did you now, because we've had we had some Oh.

01:24:21
Speaker 2: My god, did you vet these?

01:24:23
Speaker 3: It's amazing that people get mad at me. I'm not the ones making no no, no like that, not you the raptors. He always picks the worst for I'm picking the ones you guys, submit the funk you want me to do, Like it's I'm just I'm.

01:24:39
Speaker 1: Offering you're not writing these things.

01:24:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are like, he picks the worst ones. I'm picking your audio.

01:24:43
Speaker 1: All right, well give us give us one now and hopefully this is a good one.

01:24:48
Speaker 3: This actually yeah, we'll do. Stay on the music.

01:24:51
Speaker 1: What's good? Rover and Mall and everybody else.

01:24:53
Speaker 7: My name is Tim And basically my question is, so I do what I'll consider hip hop media around the y'all. I'm in Michigan, so that's base city section. And I want to preface this by saying I want all all the artists that I am fan of, fans of and all the artists that that are around here that are trying to make it.

01:25:13
Speaker 3: I want all of them to eat. I want all of them.

01:25:15
Speaker 7: To feed their families off of doing what they love and shit like that. But y'all know probably better than anybody, that not everybody else is cut out for the ship. Not everybody is gonna make it, you.

01:25:24
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

01:25:25
Speaker 7: So my question is, basically, how do you support these artists that you might be a fan of on a personal level, You might thank them as a human being is cool, but their music might not be for you.

01:25:38
Speaker 3: How do you support these these these artists?

01:25:40
Speaker 1: How do you support these rappers?

01:25:42
Speaker 7: Because I know plenty of people that are cool that you know on a personal level that I might kick it with, that I might smoke it with, smoke with, but I don't see myself sharing their music, listening to the music, really caring about their music, caring about their their their tour dates or whatever they got going on musically. And I know y'all probably know a few people in the industry like that. So my question is, how do you support these people that you might be fans of personally, but you can't get down with their music. I appreciate your time, keep rocking with the show.

01:26:11
Speaker 2: Well, if he's talking about an artist I'm not going to say established per se, but has like a fan base and their music may not just be for you, you can still buy a T shirt. You can still go to the show even if not for you. If that's your your man's is someone you like as a human being, if you still go to their show and support it. But I don't think he's referring to your man's in them that has mixtapes and they're terrible. I think he's talking about artists that have a somewhat of a following, yeah, and are doing this professionally. It's some degree.

01:26:42
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's talking about fans that are on and come up that he may know personally obviously, but he doesn't want to seem like he doesn't support his peers or his local artists. So I think a form of support that people don't look at a support is constructive criticism. I think that's a form of support. Like, YO, listen, I think that you know this song was cool. I didn't really like this one. I thought this project was good. I didn't like that one. I don't like this new sound. I don't like this new look that you have going. I don't like you know, you should maybe try this, or you know, I don't think you should work with that type of producer. Like there's little things that you can show support if without trying to jeopardize or you know, put your I guess taste or your fucking brand or whatever you want to call it. Because he's in hip hop media. So you don't want to support things that aren't dope because people be like, yo, you like a bunch of bullshit. But I think this ways to support in a way where it's not like, hey, I don't have to post your music, but I went to your studio session, I listened to the project before you put it out. I gave you some words of advice and words of encouragement, like, hey, you should change this song. I didn't really like that one, Like you said, maybe e merch a T shirt or something, a hood whatever, Just things like that where you can still support the artists, but just not maybe the part of the artists that you really don't like.

01:28:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not yet to your point, not every form of support. The only form of support is in public facing. You can do things behind closed doors. You can have dinners, go to the studio, like have moments with someone that doesn't need to be shared on Instagram, tweeted about, or posted on your media.

01:28:23
Speaker 1: Side, introducing the artists, maybe to a producer that you know, like, hey, yeah, think y'all will.

01:28:27
Speaker 3: Workoint him in the right direction if you care that much, if he's genuinely a friendly right point him in the right direction, be like, hey, I think your sound would work with sell And so you know, you don't have to like take the reins and be like this massive part of their career in that regard. But yeah, not everything needs to be like yo retweet this, like yo, put this on your story. Here's a link to my tickets. You don't have to.

01:28:46
Speaker 1: And at a great form of support that a lot of people really don't I once they like, but they have a hard time accepting is honesty. I think honesty is a great form of support. I think that if somebody, especially when you know, they know what they're talking about, and you kind of like respect their opinion and their point of view on things, like I think them being honest with you and them like you know, giving you that time of just real, real conversation. I think that's a form of support. A lot of people don't like it because maybe they're not hearing what they want to hear. But I think as long as you deliver it in a way where it's like, I'm not trying to just tear you down and crush your dreams and aspirations of being a great artist. But I think that there's a certain things that you need to change, there's things that you need to fine tune, and you're not quite ready for this yet. I think those those are great tools of support as well. It all depends on the person that you're talking to and if they're in the space are willing to accept that type of support.

01:29:42
Speaker 2: And you don't even need to go that far into honesty without just starting with this is what I like right now. This type of music yours isn't really my speed. And if you feel like growing your fan base or care about fans like me that like this other type of music, I'd be happy to help you and tell you what I would like and when right, you don't even have to go in and critique your music's not for me. This is what I like, en listed, And if you want to grow into that world.

01:30:09
Speaker 1: I can help you out and as always you just say, yo, listen that shit is trash. That as well, I'm not posting that. I'm not if it is, if it's trash, if you feel like it's trash, and listen, I'm not. I've had to do that with you know, friends and people that I know, and I'm just like, who name them? Dog? I can't. I can't post that out. I posted. I've definitely posted rories out, but it's like people that hate me, and I'm just like that ain't really that, ain't it? You know what I'm saying. And I don't want to because if I post you your shit is wack, You're just gonna have an influx of people telling you your shit is whack.

01:30:44
Speaker 3: Do you want that influence?

01:30:46
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't know if you want a bunch of people just hitting you out of the blue like, yeah, that shit is trash?

01:30:51
Speaker 2: Or one quick voicemail today, Happy two hundred, Thank you to everyone here, Thank you to the listeners. Again, it's been it's been a great two two hundre It kind of wild.

01:31:02
Speaker 1: You think we'll get to two thousand?

01:31:03
Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah, especially with Patron.

01:31:07
Speaker 1: I don't think so two thousand, So why not a lot of fucking episodes?

01:31:10
Speaker 2: Can you add it up quickly in your head? How old we would be at two thousand?

01:31:14
Speaker 1: Uh? Nice? Try?

01:31:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the effort of you going, eh.

01:31:19
Speaker 1: For two thousand episodes? Was it one hundred a little over one hundred a year?

01:31:24
Speaker 4: It would be like twenty we'd be like twenty years older.

01:31:26
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would be sixty something. You would probably be just turning forty fifty eight.

01:31:32
Speaker 6: Oh you tried it. You tried it for sure.

01:31:37
Speaker 2: No, Maul and I we have some years in between us. Yeah, you know, if you really put in Patreon episodes there, I think, yeah, I'd be like forty years old.

01:31:45
Speaker 1: God, I hope not.

01:31:46
Speaker 2: But it's been a great two hundred. Also, not to like be a downer, we are recording this on nine to eleven, specifically to New Yorkers, you know, condolences fucking crazy day one.

01:31:59
Speaker 1: Of the Create a Days. Ever y'all y'all were very young when that When that happened, I was.

01:32:05
Speaker 2: Was eleven, but fuck y'all, ever fucking forget every hour of that day eleven eleven years old.

01:32:10
Speaker 1: Wow, Damn, I'm getting.

01:32:14
Speaker 2: You getting Oh yeah, he was at the club that night.

01:32:19
Speaker 1: Was that two thousand?

01:32:21
Speaker 2: You don't remember two thousand and one.

01:32:22
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out if I was in the club.

01:32:25
Speaker 3: Now, Well, you're probably there because it was the Blueprint released days, so you're probably celebrating.

01:32:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wasn't popping bottles and ship though.

01:32:32
Speaker 4: Were you like eighteen or something like that.

01:32:33
Speaker 1: I was in my twentieth birthday? Was would be the twenty six I was nineteen when it happened. I was nineteen when it happened. Yeah, do you remember it? Like yesterday was watching Good Day New York and saw that the first plane had hit, and I was like, what the fuck? Jumped in the shower.

01:32:54
Speaker 2: That was your reaction.

01:32:55
Speaker 4: That's so funny.

01:32:56
Speaker 3: You got to get that dust off here.

01:32:57
Speaker 1: No, I think I had to. I had I think I was working the time. I had to get ready for work, so I was like, holy shit. Because that's at that point I think people still thought it was like, yeah, like just something that happened. And when I got out the shower, the second tower was on fire, and I was like okay, and that's when it was like a plane hit it.

01:33:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you take a long shower?

01:33:18
Speaker 1: Nobody had work after that, Like everything was like I said, I take long shower. That's sick.

01:33:25
Speaker 2: It was a significant amount of time in between the two It's like tutes.

01:33:29
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.

01:33:30
Speaker 2: Wasn't it like eight minutes between the two towers.

01:33:33
Speaker 1: No, it was longer than eight minutes.

01:33:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, research that just so we can get a gate.

01:33:38
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying when I got I'm not saying when I got out is when the plane hit. I'm just saying when I got out that was.

01:33:43
Speaker 3: Like when the clock started, that was like your timer.

01:33:45
Speaker 1: No, when I second, the second tower was already on fire. So yeah, but remember that and then seeing fighter jets fly over the city. Crazy times for the world, crazy crazy time for New York City. Prayers to anyone that you know was affected, lost loved ones that day. This is always that time of the year where we're just reminded of a just a tragic, tragic moment in history. And you know, of course everybody now is because the world is such, we've dug ourselves into such a conspiracy hole. The conspiracy theories are loud, and you know, more more prevalent than ever but even.

01:34:22
Speaker 2: In that timing for our new segment, once we know people are starting to fall off at the end, say the wildest shit you want to say?

01:34:27
Speaker 1: No about nine eleven?

01:34:29
Speaker 2: Thinking about nine eleven? Who knows?

01:34:31
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, couldn't find the black box, but found the passports.

01:34:36
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, the unburned passports.

01:34:38
Speaker 1: I just don't know if we are able to find that. I don't know.

01:34:42
Speaker 2: I was deep into the conspiracy theory of it and still am, but never believed the planes were CGI and it was a stereo system that made the noise of the planes across the city. If that one is true, which I'm now thinking, there's some world where it could. I want to know was it Bose, was it Sony? What was the stereo system that had the whole city that.

01:35:05
Speaker 1: Loves species that doesn't add And not only that, I think two things can be true.

01:35:10
Speaker 2: Where where was the base that day? Like where they put the sub with her?

01:35:13
Speaker 1: I think two things can be true. Well, multiple things can be true in conspiracies. I do think that planes hit the tower, but I also feel like the way those towers felt was demolition. There were explosives in the building to set off a collapse to where it wouldn't topple over as much onto other buildings. So I think two things can be true. I think, you know, on conspiracies, you listen to other angles and other you know, scenarios, and you finally, okay, that could be true, and this can also be true as well. So but you know, regardless of that, we do know that lives were lost, and we do know that families and people were affected by this tragedy. So, you know, in honor of those, we say continued prayers, continue thoughts to those people that were lost.

01:35:59
Speaker 2: And you know, before we piss edding off, where's everyone's thoughts on flight ninety three specifically?

01:36:07
Speaker 3: Is that the second plane that's the one that went down.

01:36:09
Speaker 2: That was supposed to be for the White House at the Pentagon? No, not the one, not the missile that went to the Pentagon, the plane that cracked in the field. Yeah.

01:36:19
Speaker 1: I never bought that.

01:36:20
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

01:36:20
Speaker 1: Never And I'm not a big conspiracy guy, but when they saw it they said that wreckage and stuff, I was like, oh, it was that's not that's not enough plane wreckage of a seven forty fifty seven.

01:36:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just like tank assessed none, We're like, yeah, there's a plane record.

01:36:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never brought into that.

01:36:34
Speaker 2: Here's where I'm actually like conflicted as a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist. I know the nephew of the pilot of flight ninety three, he existed, He's a human being. They at the funeral, like, they're not conspiracy theorists, They're they're real people.

01:36:50
Speaker 3: He was a guy.

01:36:52
Speaker 2: That's where I'm just like, well, where'd they put him? Like, if that flight didn't crash, where the fuck did it go? So that's where my sinfoil had I take off for a second, like, Okay, I see the flight ninety three. Shit, these were make believe people and never was a thing with all that evidence from Like I know, I know his nephew, like he was a pilot. Yeah, where'd he go if it was a conspiracy Cuba?

01:37:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just sucks the lengths that I mean, historically, America's a horrible country, and it sucks the lengths that we go to to get the things that we seek value in nephews at that time of the year oil and still continues to be oil. But I mean America's done horrible things. His country is built on terrible things, atrocities like every beautiful home, every structure. Look at the we put on this like the pride veil. This country is horrible. You don't think that they would casually wipe out a shit ton of people to go to war and make billions of dollars and steal some more land, like you're insane. Definitely, But let's wheel out a veteran every baseball game and throw a fucking hat on and.

01:37:56
Speaker 2: Clap, but not give him the proper health and.

01:37:58
Speaker 3: Noah, of course not no away.

01:38:00
Speaker 2: Let's give him a beer at the stadium.

01:38:02
Speaker 3: Give him a bud light until they went trans rotten a brew.

01:38:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your service, butlin rotten a brew? Right happy two hundred.

01:38:15
Speaker 1: At least, right fucking happy two hundred to us. Thank you all for listening, Thank you all for supporting us on this journey, and we'll talk to you soon. Be safe.

01:38:24
Speaker 4: Thank you for those people who sent me titties.

01:38:26
Speaker 2: Too for lunch slid you titties.

01:38:28
Speaker 4: Send me titties. Remember at the end of our last episode.

01:38:31
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they actually sent you titties.

01:38:33
Speaker 2: All they did was send me the word miracle I got about I'm not even exaggerating maybe five hundred DMS saying the word miracle because I said, at the end of the episode, I give ten thousand dollars to the first person that DMS me Moll.

01:38:44
Speaker 3: Said to me earlier before we started recording. He wants women to submit feet picks with the money bag on their pinky towel and he'll don my you five hundred dollars.

01:38:51
Speaker 2: I heard the same thing. Yeah, that was actually verbatim.

01:38:53
Speaker 3: It's in his draft tweets.

01:38:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at the end he said, hold me to it, happy two hundred piece, hold me to it.

01:39:05
Speaker 4: No Worrian now