Mike Elko On Brian Kelly Firing, Texas A&M Undefeated & Marcel Reed + NFL Week 8 Recap W/ Greg Olsen

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Speaker 3: For someone who's super big into Spooksober, I know.

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Speaker 4: I think we gotta have we gotta have a conversation absolutely, what's what's what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Buddy?

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Speaker 3: Just for reference, here's the back of the bus and there's the front of the bus.

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Speaker 1: Listen, we're we're gonna, we're gonna eliminate distractions when it comes to this show, and when it comes to Spooktober, I will I'll talk about what's going on on this bus. I want to first point out that all of you in the back look fantastic, especially Clump. Clump. Set it back. Let me see Clump again. Yeah yeah, Clump, keep going, keep going, keep going, Give us a reflext dude, bring home to he got you something? Yeah, dog, So listen. Spooktobra is it is my favorite holiday. And I'm not gonna make excuses about how it is a Disney rold that did over forty thousand steps this weekend. I was a little tired. It's on me. I need to dress up. I showed up today. The first thing I see is Shirman and a policeman's outfit. The next thing I see is Mitch as a stitch, which, by the way, is my kid's favorite character at this time. Will shows up twenty minutes after the pre production meeting and he's Rocky Balboa and so did I shit the bed? Yes? Is he gonna take away from how great you guys look. It shouldn't. This is about Spooktober. This is about ghoules, goblins, inspectors, and I appreciate each and every one of you for dressing up. I need to be better. I need to be better for that. I say, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I think we're The disappointment is every year you're like, hey, we gotta sell out. It's Spootobratt to lead out. Hey, hey we got to have the bus dressed up. We gotta do all like there's like a standard you implement on everybody that you force on everybody. And just to see our guy from the front, like weekend one, you don't hit a spook and you don't You're not even taking this conversation seriously, like I don't know what's happening on the phone that's more important than a spook Tobra conversation with our guy, our leader. And then we get into the week of Halloween and you're the one guy that's not in a costume.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at my phone because I thought I addressed it, and you were still want to go in it, which is great. Here's what I think, guys. I think I've already said that I shit the bed I did. When it comes to Spooktober, I do like to carry the flypole. I do like to say, hey, we should have standards and expectations. And it's a bad look when the leader says, hey, we need to have these standards and expectations and it doesn't work out he doesn't follow suit with what he should be doing. I gotta stop looking at sirm. He's kind of freaking me out with the helmet and I don't know if he's looking at me or looking at somebody else, but yes, I fucked up. I should have been dressed up. I wasn't just up. And you know what, to make matters worse, it didn't even cross my mind this morning. It didn't even cross my mind to get this done. That's the problem. You're absolutely right. And so if you guys want to spend the show for me figuring out how many ways they can say, sorry, I can do that. But I I am just letting you know. I shit the bed, and it's it's I let you down.

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Speaker 3: I let you down.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's gonna happen come September next year. I'm gonna do I'm gonna say, guy, we gotta make this the best Spooketober. We gotta do this, we gotta do that, and it'll be a great time for you guys to hold me accountable and be like, hey, you want to be the guy. This is the guy we saw in twenty twenty five. What's the guy you're gonna be in twenty twenty six. And that's once again, from the bottom of my heart, I'm sorry. This this is mere Monday. Yeah, this Spootober for me, from just a tailor little one perspective has been very underwhelming. I will say, however, from a from Taylor to one the dad, this has been the best Spooktober of my entire life. We have done so many The kids are fully bought in. We've done so many things with the kids, and I'm very proud of that. But you can't have one with that the other. You can't have a good run game but no pass game. All right, you got to put them both together. And I can promise that to you guys in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: That just means on Thursday for our stream, when we all dress up, you need to you need to win all out.

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Speaker 6: If you don't win the costume content all out on Thursday, there's gonna be some real, real chatter around the costumed you know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited that you guys are giving me an opportunity to make this right. So thank you. Yes, I get the spirit. I got myself a nice little you know what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thursday, We'll see Thursday.

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Speaker 1: See Thursday. I'll see you boys Thursday for the stream, for the stream, but it is the weekend recapted.

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Speaker 2: We want to get some football, Yeah, Brian Kelly got fired.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we talked about it with Payton before and he's like, if this game does and go the way they want, I don't think that happens, but I think a conversation takes place with this coordinators, with the staff that's also going on. Then it's essentially on, Brian Kelly, are you going to fire these guys that you need to fire? But after that ass beating that an M put on and it was close, I mean LSU was up for a minute, it was close in the first half, and it's just it's snowballed to where LSU the fan base is channing fire Kelly. And I think you walk out of that stadium, Tiger Stadium, and I think the administration knew right then and there this can't be our guy anymore if we want to keep this fan base intact.

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Speaker 7: Is there a scarier stadium to have to leave after you're on the hot seat?

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, Louisiana is essentially always in Spootober like that is a it's a crazy everyone's asleep dude. Yeah, Sherman, you're talking about there's a clip. There's a clip of Brian Kelly that somebody hiding the bushes while he was leaving the stadium or leaving the uh the facility, and he's like talking to people and all that, and he like books it out of there. I have not seen this clip yet.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah yeah, and uh, I saw that Harrold Perkins their best linebacker is basically it was like, I'm not playing the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: Now, hold on. I saw that two, but I thought that was No. Three. Now I think that was No.

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Speaker 2: Three.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up last night and I didn't see anything because I went I went to retweet it or quote tweet it and be like this guy we a Mazon blue, we need this guy, of course. And then I checked one more time and it said No. Three. Yeah, I think he got No. Three three and.

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Speaker 7: Actually does this is dude, is way too good.

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Speaker 1: This is BK leaving the building right now. Also, okay, is he parked in a handicap spot? Take a one last look at it.

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Speaker 8: He's allegedly halfway parked in his reserve spot and halfway parked in a handicap spot.

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Speaker 1: Well that's all allegedly, We're not going to kick a man while he's down. Does the door open? It does he's pointing at somebody. I mean, that's a fifty three million dollar man walking around right there.

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Speaker 4: That's a fifty three Yeah that biots.

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Speaker 1: I think it's close to two hundred million dollars in buiots so far, three fires totality.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that's the video saw Josh Pai going off about him. I saw the clip of Josh Paate going off about him on the show, and I think what I'm appreciating is seeing the fan base, like there's been other figureheads as well talking about it. Is just talking about the optics coach Kelly. They're allegedly saying that he was doing knowing he's going to be on camera a lot, and kind of going off on all of his coaches, like every time that there was an opportunity, like if a bad play happened, he's like, what the fuck are we doing? Joe, like always just you know, in the microphone, like kind of going at his coaches and thinking it was more of like a like an optics thing of you know, Kelly kind of removing himself from the accountability factor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that is yeah, yeah, I trying to make it cinematic. That's not that's something were there you see. I was not I was not seeing those clips. I'll take your word for it, though.

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Speaker 4: Like just every time, every time a moment would happen, it's like people were doing the you know where they're they're saying what he's saying, like quoting, like liperating and everything else. But every time the camera would come on him, it'd be like he'd pulled down the mic. He'd be like, what the fuck are you doing here, Joe? You can't call that, you know with no timeouts. Just yeah, always like these situations a lot, and they happen, I believe multiple times.

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Speaker 2: Is what people were talking about.

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Speaker 4: And if you go off pate, you know, if there if there's if there's gonna be a way, like if there's gonna be a hard decision to be had the position that coach Kelly would be in, he'd be putting like an ultimatum like you're gonna have to you're gonna have to fire guys internally on your staff or coach coach Kelly is gonna be the guy that falls on the sword, and optically, like if you're trying to laying the.

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Speaker 2: Staff, this is the way that you would be reacting.

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Speaker 1: If the camera is on, right, Yeah, because if Josh Peyton knows the noise and all the noise surrounding, he's obviously very aware. And it seemed like just that small little clip in what you're saying is he is preparing himself to fire guys in order to save his job. But the ass beating was so bad that everyone was just like, you know what we're gonna have to do, right, take We're gonna take out the trash.

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Speaker 2: LSU is now the hottest job that's open. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that worth thinking? That's over Florida, LSU Florida, Penn State? Yeah, I mean LSU. The club brought up a really good point where Florida might be better than LSU if you're a coach looking for a longer leash. Because at LSU, so coach O he was a nasal championship one two years later, he's gone that that fan base knows they can be national championship contenders every single year, and they just think, all right, if you're not gonna get it done in one two years, we gotta find the next guy, which could be the quickest way to ruin a program because you want a little more like you need to see these things kind of develop a little bit. Penn State, very similar ten and two coach, over and over and over again, he's gotta go. And so next coach it comes in the expectation tenant you get ten and two, there's gonna be a panic setting in there, Florida. You will win yourself nine to ten games for a few years. Everyone's like, all right, slowly cooking. So he get back on the right track. Did I hit that correctly? Clump, Yeah, I think I.

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Speaker 9: Think that's perfect.

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Speaker 6: I think for expectations for sure. The coach, oh things the best. He won a Natty and I think it was twenty months later was fired. So and you're also stepping into a place that did hire Brian Kelly, which scares me.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like the people making those decisions, I wouldn't want to be part of that, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta make sure everything's aligned.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they would. They would just you know, ensue just all this expectation.

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Speaker 2: You will.

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Speaker 4: There is a standard at LSU. But I think these years with Brian Kelly fan base is gonna welcome. If they have the right hire like they're gonna have, They're gonna have a leash not to be like a losing you know, losing record multiple years in a row seasons. But I think that they will have like patients with this next head coach if it calls for patients and they're having like nine to three, eight and four win seasons. But yeah, dude, a lot of jobs opened, a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of jobs open, more jobs open at this point I think we've seen in a long time, but also more head coaches kind of rearing their head earlier in this season being like, oh, that guy could be a head coach at a major program. That guy Alex Golish at USF or UCF which on USF Matt Campbell Ioway state like, yeah, some are all tou lane coach. You've all these kind of coaches that are like, hey, we're ready for the next step, and it just seems like everything's working out where these big programs are ready for a guy to take the next step.

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Speaker 10: Horrible year to be the Virginia techs u clas of the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that need a coach, not UCLA. I mean, I know they got their ass bet by Indiana, but I think they're set.

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Speaker 4: But not the year that you want your coach to get fired not a year, which brings us to Baylor Cincinnati. I was talking with Surean before and he was just up in arms. He's like, dude, Baylor, I was like, I feel you, but Cincinnati is a tough team, Like you kind of knew that that was gonna happen. Sure if you don't, like, don't do the staring thing. This is this is real conversation time with Baylor. But yeah, where do you go if you're Baylor? Because you said there was an opportunity a couple of years ago to separate yourself from the head coach.

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Speaker 8: We could have got rid of a random two years ago after the Air Force game.

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Speaker 2: We did not.

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Speaker 8: We actually extended him, paid him more money, and then we got more of.

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Speaker 2: The same thing.

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Speaker 8: And now we're looking down the barrel of the gun in a college football environment with now twelve head coaches. There's twelve openings, and it's like, now, I don't want a random fired, because what the hell are we gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna want a Baylor job in this economy.

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Speaker 8: In this economy, go down to Waco. God, dude, it hurts sick of Bears.

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Speaker 1: Baylor seems like the perfect school to be a casualty of the NIL era.

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Speaker 2: Ship enjoy a game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was about to say there's actually there's a lot of money at Baylor. I don't think there's a whole lot of direction of like not only building an NIL but like going about finding talent.

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Speaker 2: If that makes sense. I don't know, dude.

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Speaker 8: I'm just very broken.

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Speaker 2: I'm very empty. I'm very sad.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, Baylor's got to write the ship and do a whole lot of things if they want to find success in this era of football. I think a lot of schools could say that, but especially Baylor.

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Speaker 2: What should we talk about.

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Speaker 1: Well, we should talk about me almost being a genius over the weekend, almost shocking the world and hitching my wagon to the South Carolina game. Cocks so fucking close, dude. And that is there are two games other than the Michigan game. While I'm at Disney World and I had to see I kept the box score up. One was Michigan Northwestern and the other one was South.

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Speaker 2: Carolina Michigan Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: Other than the Michigan game, Nebraska Northwestern. Yeah, I'm sorry, uh Nebraska Northwestern. I kept watching the box score on that, and then I did pop on at one point Alabama, South Carolina. When I'm in Epcot, I think I'm in China, and I go and look and I'm like, damn, we we might be it. And JP and I thrown a couple of texts back and forth. I shoot them a little text like, hey, you guys can do this. Student section lines up to go rush the field. Alabama pulls through.

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Speaker 3: JP.

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Speaker 1: Let's get your thoughts.

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Speaker 10: It wasn't fun putting on this costume today. I felt like the clown thing another, you know, like the clown gift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, it's hard.

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Speaker 10: It's like we we outplayed the number fours, even the country for every single minute of the game except for maybe the last five minutes. The defense played incredible. Ty Simpsons pass the ball forty four times and I don't know did he throw for did he have one touchdown? Y? Yeah, But like we took their weapons out, defense played amazing. Offensive play calling was better. Still could have still definitely could have put the game away. Beamer said it in the post game. When you're up by eight with four minutes left and you have the ball, you have got to step on their throat and put the game away, and we didn't do it. And the most sickening part of the game, I think is just the first play, pick six, where we throw it out wide, swing pass off our guy into Alabama's hands, seven to zero, and it's just like we did that exact same thing against Georgia when we were ranked number twenty four. Georgia was number three. Swing pass out wide, pick six, Georgia touchdown. And it's like, how do we have identical plays against a number four team in Georgia and then a number four team in Alabama. We've given away every game this year, minus the Vanderbilt game, and it's just like, when does it? When does it end? Probably next year when we make a run. But it just sucks, man, because it says a lot about Beamer two, like to get the team ready. We've been kicking ourselves in the butt all year. Morale would be an easy thing to lose, but he didn't lose it. The team showed up, the crowd showed up. And so when you walk away from that game three and five on the year, going to Ole Miss playing at night, going to Texas A and M I believe, playing at night, and then Coastal and Clemson. It's like he's done an amazing job keeping the team in it for all the things that haven't gone our way. And it kind of hurts too because it's our first game. Our injury report has been pretty much empty, and we competed with the best team in the country one of them. So it just it's just like every single year, just pain pain.

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Speaker 2: Is there any party that's nervous about the portal world with you guys being three and five.

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Speaker 4: And what it could potentially look like at the end of I'm I'm saying that's what it's gonna look like.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, it's just so tough to say because with Sellers, you really have no idea if he's gonna go to the NFL or stay. I think if he stays, he doesn't stay at South Carolina. Dylan Stewart, he's an interesting one because he's not from South Carolina, he has no home ties. He's been playing his butt off the last three weeks and the whole defense wants to win. But you can see it. I mean, Stuart is he's getting gassed, like because he's going hard every single plane. He's making so much impact that as an ultimate competitor, you wouldn't It wouldn't be the most shocking thing in the world if he went somewhere else. Hopefully he stays. I know that he loves Columbia. Nick Carver loves that man Nick Carver on Thursday before the game, and he was He's a good dude, good kids'. Meeting him was just like a good reminder of like, this guy is like twenty years old old, really just started playing for real football three years ago, and it's kind of enjoying just every every piece of it. Yeah, has like a naive love for the game, which I wish I could say the same for myself, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's tough to say, like I want, I want what's best for all of our best guys, and I believe what's best for him is in Colombia. But it's tough. You're three and five guys want to win championships and this is a letdown of a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she was telling about a couple whispers we've heard.

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Speaker 1: You have to tell I thought we agreed not to and I was really hoping to get to Alabama right now, but you it's too late now now now you have to tell.

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Speaker 4: Them there's whispers that there's seven million dollars on the table for Leonori's Sellers. There's whispers there was eight last year. Okay, again just whispers. I'm not saying it's a it's a guarantee or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the whispers.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: Is it in the southeast? Yeah, yes, to one state over?

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Speaker 1: Will does it?

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Speaker 2: Let me blame?

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Speaker 4: Let me look at but yes, is it one state over?

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Speaker 2: Let me take let me zoom out here on my phone.

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Speaker 1: One of the jobs. The head coaches may or may not be there next year.

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Speaker 10: Oh so probably not one.

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Speaker 2: What I'm seeing, what I'm thinking is it's two states over.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a golf to it, and there's a.

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Speaker 2: Uh again, it's it's whispers.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, money is going to be all over the place for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Because there's also still a bunch of NFL scouts that are that are clearly watching the tape. He got to see it in person of like Leonora Sellers leads the nation and broken towns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a freak.

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Speaker 10: So it's like the you know, the stats aren't there, so the stat watcher football fans have no idea. They all say, oh, Leonora Sellers he was over hyped.

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Speaker 2: He's this, he's that.

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Speaker 10: But then the scouts that are watcher like, this is one of the most special athletes we've seen. So it's like he could leave and goes to the draft, and I like Seller's chances of staying at South Carolina. I'm more nervous of Dylan Stewart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell you what, Dylan Stewart looked great.

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Speaker 2: He looked amazing.

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Speaker 1: Man, he would look great, amazing blue. No, hey, keep it in house.

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Speaker 10: We look horrible up there. It's cold weather up there. He's a short sleeve player.

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Speaker 2: Good DC from DC.

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Speaker 1: He's told there.

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Speaker 10: No, he looks tough in the garden in black and the number two d end come and visit.

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Speaker 1: I would love for him to stay there for you, for South Carolina, you guys deserve if he were to leave, though, keep it nouse, No, keep it nouse.

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Speaker 4: I feel like SEC players that Oh, I mean, that's Haynes was Alabama and I went up to Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Himself and thirty hundred and thirty two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Watch, thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help myself too. I was like, I was like, I'm gonna get home. I'm gonna watch the game. I have it saved on the YouTube TV or whatever. And then we get back and I'm like, let me just see what's going on now. He was like halfway the first and I was like, I gotta watch this entire game. Now, watch the entire game. Yeah, it was Uh, it was a rivalry game. I think they got the Michigan State got a garbage time back door cover. But the offense, it wasn't like the best performance through the year. It's not what you want. It was like the most conservative game plan I've seen out of Michigan this entire year. Defense, though, like the last two weeks since USC has completely changed their game plan to where they were. Butzing fifty percent of the time last week was twenty five percent of the time. I wouldn't be shocked if the number it was even lower this week. But they're letting the horses run right now, and it's given me a lot of excitement watching that defensive group play the way they are right now. So I'm very I mean, there's a very strong chance we're playing Ohio State for a playoff bid, which would be don't sleep on Northwestern, don't sleep on northwestes you got.

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Speaker 2: A bye week this week.

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Speaker 1: We know we up Predue this weekend, and then we have maybe Northwestern after a bye and then we have Maryland, which is gonna be tough at Maryland, and then Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 9: How did Bryce play this week?

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Speaker 1: Good? Statistically not great, but uh, I think he put the ball in positions for guys to be sucessful. There was one two linebackers and a receiver that will not be named, and he thread the needle perfectly hit that receiver in the face, literally hit him in the face. And so yeah, there was He had a couple of nice throws, but it was like he threw the ball seventeen times like it was. The game was We're gonna run the football and play defense. There was no offense or butts about it. Third and seven plus. I could do away with that game plan. I could do what I could do away with that.

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Speaker 2: Let's not be in third or seven.

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Speaker 1: But don't ever apologize for a win. That's what I'll say about that. And it shout out Michigan State. That's probably my least favorite school of all of the schools. They got up for that game. They played hard. There was a lot of times Michigan had stepped on their throat and they fought back their way in to get that child's kid the quarterback for Michigan State. He I mean, he had a horrendous game, but then he had a couple of drives. It's like, oh, this kid, he's you could tell he's a special athlete, like he's he's young.

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Speaker 2: Young.

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Speaker 1: So team that had nothing, they had nothing to play for their three and four, three and five whatever it was, and they h yeah, they got up. They got up for that game. East Lansing stated it the whole time. So a lot of credit to them, a lot of credit even though I spies that school.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, got the little brother.

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Speaker 1: Got the little brother. I did it again. Yeah, I think that's five five years in row, four years in a row. Talk to me about Northwestern Nebraska, because I'm watching that game on just like kind of refreshing and just seeing the scores go back and forth and I don't know, really unfolded.

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Speaker 2: We took our business.

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Speaker 4: I was saying it last week, like this isn't this wasn't a you know, you guys played Northwestern. You guys should handle Northwestern. I'm glad we got out that energy because you had to show up for this game. There was a moment there was like twenty one to six, and the refs have absolutely fucking screwed us on a fourth and short to where they completed it. They even reviewed it, but the dude was clearly short of the first down, not like clearly, but you just know he was short of the first down marker to where he.

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Speaker 2: Double caught it. Did anybody catch this replay?

00:25:40
Speaker 4: Anybody see this play to where he caught the ball coming back to it and if he catches it, he's got a first down. But he double caught it to where he bobbled it and then fully secured it once he hit the ground. And when you're watching it like he wasn't, he didn't get the first down. But they end up giving them that conversion. They go down the score that drive, Dylan throws a pick, they end up scoring. They're back in the fucking game. Bro, it's it's it's twenty one all because they got a two point conversion. We end up winning twenty eight twenty one. But look, there's things you gotta take care of. They had another explosive on us on the run game, whereas another fourth and short and the d N is just crashing down the right tackle and mostly just focuses on they think it's going to be a pile for the fourth and short, so the end just crashing him down, not even looking at the ball, and Buddy scoots out the side and takes it to the house when they scored off of that interception. Massive game this week Massive game this weekend. I mean this like, USC to me is a is a very good football team. They're coming to Nebraska. It is a blackout game, which I'm stoked about. They got the all black unis on. But this is a tough fucking football team. This and right now, the line is like minus six and a half USC at Nebraska to where I like, it's obviously it's this is a moneyline for Willy c. But I'm looking at that line and if you're everybody else, you're almost salivating at this. Uh, USC minus six and a half at Nebraska, Like I think they're giving us some fluff there because we're gonna have.

00:27:10
Speaker 2: To come correct. Like this is this is this is a fucking game. This is a tough game.

00:27:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: Lot of respect for USC. This is the season, This is the season.

00:27:21
Speaker 1: This is this is the season, absolutely, and that's a good ball Cup. The huge win is it being in Lincoln? It's in Lincoln. Yeah, the crowd ninety two thousand whatever it is. Yeah, you know everybody's you mean they're blackout. Yeah, they might need Willy C on the silo. You might have to goas Will Yeah, is we'll go to me in attendance for the epic USC versus Nebraska night game Saturday. Hashtag tear targets from Garrett Lake Lake Underscore Garrett.

00:27:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are some internal conversations being had at the household. You know, either be at the game or I think this could very much be a stream game for myself. Either way, this is this is JP said it, this is the season, like, ah, yeah, we need everybody.

00:28:13
Speaker 1: What times the game?

00:28:14
Speaker 2: Night game? Yeah, this is night game.

00:28:18
Speaker 1: If there was ever a time for Nebraska, like it's perfect.

00:28:24
Speaker 4: Get they get back in the top twenty five. Another another opportunity on the drought we've been having against top twenty five games.

00:28:32
Speaker 1: People question marks about the offense, the explosive plays US see, they have a lot of explosive plays. USC beat up, beat up Michigan.

00:28:41
Speaker 4: And the thought too is like there is a very much a controversial we could have got called for holding on the game. It was I want to say it was fourth down. They hit us on a double move. All buddies grabbed him coming out of his route, coming out of the slugo, and fortunately, you know they don't call it. We gotta get back. I'm thinking this is get back for us and up the fourth and short call on our end. But it happened a couple times. They had a couple of big plays on third and medium to where we're sending the house, and so all the guys are blitz feet on islands and they hit us with the double moves. So if you're a USC and you're looking at that tape, it's like they got some cats, Like.

00:29:19
Speaker 2: This is this is a game, baby, I'm.

00:29:23
Speaker 4: Excited about it. Yeah, I'm excited about it.

00:29:29
Speaker 2: Dude. Emma Johnson has been running his ass off, bro. I think he does.

00:29:33
Speaker 4: He lead the Big ten in rushing yards, led the entire country and broken tackles over the weekend.

00:29:40
Speaker 1: Didn't play.

00:29:42
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean jeremih Love had a ton of success running against USC.

00:29:48
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, the formula the fourth like Emmitt Johnson does not lead the Big Ten in rushing. Michigan's Justice Haynes does.

00:29:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, well last week, Emma Johnson was because Justice didn't. He only played a quarter and a half versus USC missed the entire Washington game and then played this first game, so he missed about one and a half games.

00:30:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, Washington is a good ball club.

00:30:13
Speaker 1: That's a good ball club.

00:30:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, they handled Illinoiss. But Emma Johnson's just having a year like this is you know, and this game is gonna be awesome. I'm excited. I'm obviously nervous because USC is a very good football team.

00:30:28
Speaker 2: This is very much a.

00:30:28
Speaker 4: Spotlight primetime game for Nebraska. And because you win this game, you're you're back in all the conversations.

00:30:34
Speaker 1: You Yeah, you win this game. It's like, oh, this is this is a playoff? Is a playoff?

00:30:38
Speaker 10: TA you control your you win this game, you control your destiny.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: We control destiny, PERI period.

00:30:45
Speaker 1: Right, But if you're talk about this, yeah, we're in the playoffs from here on out.

00:30:51
Speaker 2: Right, We're in the playoffs from here on out.

00:30:53
Speaker 1: Every every two loss team is in that situation. Because I'm looking at mission like, yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:30:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, every two loss team is in playoff mode right now, and it's very much a playoff game this weekend in Lincoln, Nebraska at night, prime time under the lights.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: We need everybody gotta be there, Black unis, there's.

00:31:13
Speaker 1: Got there's gotta be a fly house situation. Will goes. You gotta get to Lincoln in the morning. Gotta get to Lincoln in the morning, our flight, walk the boys out. This might be it, man, talk about look look at what me and Matt Rule have done. Me being will this is the time.

00:31:34
Speaker 10: It's also that the opportunity though for Nebraska to let Will know like, hey, we got you. You don't even need to make the trip because it won't be worth I won't.

00:31:43
Speaker 4: Even I don't want to get any Baltimore material. There's a great ball club. They're playing very well. That offense is high powered. Yeah, man, but great spot for Nebraska this weekend. Everybody need everybody every I'm with you. But yeah, that's how feeling. I am glad that we came out handle business against Northwestern.

00:32:08
Speaker 2: It's a tough football team. Nobody should sleep on them.

00:32:11
Speaker 1: Nelson eight o wait Awa. Nelson says, who do you think has the best chance to make the CFB CFP, b YU, Navy, Notre Dame or Texas Tech. I think the ant I mean is Texas Tech and Notre Dame.

00:32:25
Speaker 2: Who has the better chance? Undefeated b YU is.

00:32:30
Speaker 4: Undefeated, Big twelve. You're thinking b YU, Texas Tech. It's there, Cincinnati, Cincinnati's right there. All these teams. I think they're playing each other on the back of the season.

00:32:43
Speaker 3: B YU and Texas Tech. I think this week, Yes.

00:32:46
Speaker 8: In Texas Tech is on their third string quarterback there in the.

00:32:49
Speaker 2: Back no rolling.

00:32:55
Speaker 10: Every conference is like there's no clear cut champion except maybe the.

00:33:00
Speaker 2: ACC Georgia Tech.

00:33:04
Speaker 3: True.

00:33:04
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm saying Georgia Tech Miami like probably would be a good game, but.

00:33:09
Speaker 1: That seems like it's gonna be the championship, right. Yeah, those two plays did they play?

00:33:14
Speaker 10: I don't know if they play Georgia Tech and Miami, but the CC like any I mean Alabama's play calling at the end of the game. I don't know if y'all saw it, No, you know, it was it was legal. It was lethal, like wi wildcat to win the game, fake reverse. Yeah, he can talk about it, but like, those are the plays that I'm like, that's championship that's championship football.

00:33:40
Speaker 7: Yeah, they ever had to have it moments, and Jeremy wasn't having the best day and what we needed in most he was there.

00:33:48
Speaker 2: I will say.

00:33:49
Speaker 7: At the game, JP and I talked about it. You've been there, Jack, You've been there. Sandstorm gets insane. It got the most hyped here in the game. But South Carolina had to come out with the ball. So the stadium goes from being as loud as possible to coming back down. It was probably the best case scenario for Alabama.

00:34:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:34:12
Speaker 7: Yeah, And the first time I was like, I think half the stadium forgot that. It's second and nine when we come out of this, and it was just it's.

00:34:19
Speaker 2: So funny to listen to you with your costume one right now.

00:34:24
Speaker 7: But it was great, dude. I mean, yeah, we already talked about South Carolina. But JP has motion in Colombia. That is for sure.

00:34:32
Speaker 1: Really for sure.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: He's out there speaking it to the school. Is that there speaking the classroom?

00:34:36
Speaker 1: How was that, dude? How was speaking? Everybody going to that? So you and Beam get a little coffee, old beer, little bud light together.

00:34:42
Speaker 10: What's going on now? Going back to talk to the classes? That was that was awesome. That the pregame rush I had before was like when you're getting ready to play a game, and when you don't go play college, you missed that feeling sits from high school to you never know if you'll get it again. So my heart is beating through my chip as I'm standing up there, and then finally, you know, probably two minutes in, as they just ask you like introduce yourself, you settle into it and I put it in my post, but like it just felt it is one of those crazy moments where like I felt like I was doing what I was supposed to do, where I was meant to do, and to talk to like twenty kids after they're all lining up to come talk to me, ask me about different advice as well as to other speakers, and just like seeing the looks in the eyes that some of the fears that they had in the as a junior in high school, junior in college, senior in college, and to be able to try to impart some wisdom after sitting in their seat and feeling those exact same fears was just like a dream come true at a school that I love, and it's like I grew up a fan of South Carolina my whole entire life. And now while I was able to speak at the journalism school where I graduated from and the business school, Mitch's aunt is one of.

00:35:54
Speaker 2: The professors there.

00:35:55
Speaker 3: Ant's class.

00:35:56
Speaker 10: Yeah, and when I tell you that she might have the best class across the whole school, it's like, I'm not exaggerating at all. She's getting these kids prepared better for anything in the next part of life than I've seen any professor do. So shout out Beth and shout out that class because she is. She's dialed in on all of the right things that a lot of professors are not. But it was I mean, it was, yeah, it was. It was awesome. I almost don't have words for it, even though I just gave a little speech on it. It was just like it was so cool.

00:36:27
Speaker 4: No, that's awesome, dude, because you do your mind, body, and soul love South Carolina and getting to whatever range of impact you're getting to have, but just getting to have an impact on a school that you truly love so much, dude.

00:36:41
Speaker 10: They interviewed me before the game, like one of the media people shout out Ethan and they're basically like, what's it like being back home all this stuff and I'm just Garrett and everybody. It was so I was like getting emotional there as what was your favorite moments of being a game cop?

00:37:00
Speaker 3: Wow, I seen it all.

00:37:02
Speaker 10: I was there for the hit. Yeah, I got Jasper Brinkley's glove.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: Yeah I got this.

00:37:06
Speaker 10: I got that.

00:37:08
Speaker 2: It was third and shut gotta have it moment.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, man. That fires me up for.

00:37:15
Speaker 4: You on the on the SEC. The SEC is just gonna be so fun to watch. Man shout out to Vandy win in seventeen to ten.

00:37:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that last play? Yes, oh my god, you see it. I did not last play the game. Missouri throws a hail Mary and the ball is Did they end up saying it was caught?

00:37:33
Speaker 3: Yes, it was.

00:37:34
Speaker 1: It was caught on like the one inch line to where the receiver falls on the ground and his body is on the goal line, but the ball is not.

00:37:43
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

00:37:45
Speaker 3: Bro, we were me, Me and Matt and Ryan were all there and like that play happened and it was so loud, and then that play happened. We're like, oh ship, what just happened? And like so dandy players are on the field like Matt Ryan and I start walking on the field, and then the refs like hold on the previous plays under review, and so like everybody's just staring up at the big board of like what happened?

00:38:08
Speaker 2: Look at this yo? That is crazy crazy.

00:38:12
Speaker 3: Literally six inches away from being a tie ball game. Yeah, backup quarterback broke pabula unfortunately, Yeah, got got his ankle rolled up on. Kind of like a scataboo situation like air cast and everything. But that backup, like he was, the offense did not slew down one bit once he came in, So I think they're going to be in a good spot like moving forward with this guy.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: But man, that is nasty.

00:38:36
Speaker 4: That is I I'm just getting even more mad than about the wedding.

00:38:40
Speaker 3: It was.

00:38:41
Speaker 1: It was a great weekend football. I mean I missed all of the time. I had to go back and comb through and find some I.

00:38:46
Speaker 3: Do need to give a shout out to Kaid on their like I guess you could say povious game winning touchdown.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: I saw that clip. Bro That is so sick.

00:38:54
Speaker 1: Yeah one you guys put in the group chat, right, is what you're talking about?

00:38:56
Speaker 3: We like to play before Caid saw and uh Matt and I like with our cameras and stuff and like made eye contact. Was like we're that close. Next play they score, you can literally like Paby is going over here. You can see Caid come in pull him towards Matt and I and like after the game of charging was like, oh yeah, I saw ya. I did that completely on purpose, and.

00:39:17
Speaker 1: It was that.

00:39:20
Speaker 4: Pabby is about the roll and he just grabs him. There you're coming to these boys.

00:39:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:39:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, So sick.

00:39:25
Speaker 7: Man video from the other angle where you can see it all happened from a different point of view.

00:39:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, the uh it was on here?

00:39:35
Speaker 2: Paba on nap too, I did. I saw the clip, Dude, I.

00:39:40
Speaker 1: Saw that as well. What do they say you have any more eligibility?

00:39:44
Speaker 5: Is?

00:39:45
Speaker 1: Yeah? You about thirteen fourteen years in the league.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: He did the Chad Johnson.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: Feel feel that Pabo's mom. Yeah, that's so funny.

00:39:55
Speaker 4: Bro.

00:39:56
Speaker 1: Theo with the recruits too, Yeah, yeah, there's like six one in the wheelchair.

00:40:01
Speaker 3: He needs some refs.

00:40:02
Speaker 2: He needs to be with the lower.

00:40:05
Speaker 1: So now he's like one hundred and fifty of that clip does go so hard, dude and Pavia So we have the Heisman favorites right now Fernanda Mendozes plus two sixty, Tys Simpson three p fifty, Julian say Put Julian Saying Year plus four hundred check down, Charlie Marcel Reid plus five hundred, and Diego Pavia plus eight fifty. A lot of respect for all these guys. I do joke around by saying, but like this bus might have to become advertisement for Diego Pavia to win the Heisman. We might have to stand on that and sway any voters that might watch this show.

00:40:41
Speaker 3: He didn't.

00:40:42
Speaker 10: We should see if the bus is on board with that.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: With that take, he didn't have it.

00:40:47
Speaker 4: I love the Pavia like I love the Pavia magic, I really do.

00:40:51
Speaker 2: But I also love some Tyson.

00:40:53
Speaker 1: Tyson that is the other one you look at you like, yeah.

00:40:55
Speaker 3: Ma, Diego didn't have like the craziest game this weekend.

00:40:58
Speaker 11: Twenty nine passing yards and interception.

00:41:01
Speaker 2: It's just something about like winning the Heisman.

00:41:03
Speaker 3: It sounds so weird to say that he has these.

00:41:09
Speaker 11: Words of the show because I haven't seen it all day and I'm not trying to do this Tennessee versus Vandy. But Joey Aguilar had twenty less passing yards against Alabama than Diego Pavia had.

00:41:20
Speaker 9: Versus l s U and Missouri combined.

00:41:24
Speaker 11: I love this for Vandy seven and one, but I just don't know. I don't know it's fair, but I think that it's like they're taking Vandy as a whole and they should be doing this whole Heisman candasy thing that they're trying to like push.

00:41:42
Speaker 2: But I don't.

00:41:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like that or like the aura and the vibe of Diego like just radiates through the entire team and that's what makes it like, yeah, like Pababi didn't have the greatest game and like it hasn't really had like that Heisman moment, but like the entire team embodies his swag and I don't like, obviously I don't think that's Heisman worthy, but like there's something to be said.

00:42:03
Speaker 1: About it that might be Heisman worthy. Establishing an entire culture on a football team taking it, taking a dead taking a dead program, transfer in and everyone being like, yo, who the fuck is this Mexican kid with a with a wrestling brain and he's just this is my team now takes over and they, dude, they walk around like their shit doesn't stink, and it's like, yeah, it hasn't. Like they kind of just keep doing their thing.

00:42:28
Speaker 3: They might be flipping a five star commit to Georgia who's a Nashville kid, like he was at the game, so like the aura Vandy is really.

00:42:35
Speaker 2: They've taken on the identity of old Diego Pope.

00:42:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that I think there's lots of to be said with that. Listen, we don't have to say he's got to win the Heisman, but can we get him to New York. Let's get him to New York so I could see and I hope he wears this crazy, gaudy iced out chain that might just say pave on it big as fuck. And he's been like, Yo, this kid went to New Mexico, no offers, goes to an SEC school and he's seven and one in the SEC right now. That's incredible.

00:43:05
Speaker 3: Some of the undersized I was talking to some of the coaches like after the game, like we were somewhere and they one of them was the O line coach and he's like, tell Taylor to fuel that jet up. Fuck, And I'm like, Taylor is shitting himself right now.

00:43:24
Speaker 1: I am, I am and I'm also like I think this is I wouldn't be upset anymore. And it's like that one of the cooler stories ever support where kid's coming to the shop today so we can watch film together. Well, he's coming over at three today and we're gonna break down the film. And he's like, hey, I want to watch film. Like, yeah, dude, let's watch film. Let's to work on some stuff. Yeah, because I gotta get him an amazing blue uniform next year. I mean it's all hands on deck. Anything you can do to help the program. So yeah, dude, I do I want them all. I didn't tell me to someone to make a play. There's a kid from Michigan State. Dude, he's like six to His last name is Marsh also, and I'm like this guy, he's a selfless player. He runs No dude, Our Marsh is awesome. Our Marsh is good. Form er five star clumb knows all about him. But yeah, I'm just getting I see all these cats, and I see the world we live in now, and I know Michigan's got the funds. I'm just thinking to myself, Yeah we did that. That was a nice post by them.

00:44:24
Speaker 4: Yeah Chefty posted. Yeah, I'm also recruiting. I'm also recruiting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Vandy's got a real shot to be in the College able playoff man.

00:44:40
Speaker 1: A real shot. Yes.

00:44:43
Speaker 4: The wrestler schedule here, they're at Texas right now. Texas is favored by two and a half.

00:44:50
Speaker 1: Way different this week. I didn't get to watch the whole game, but I did see the box score of that while I'm at Epcot walking through Finland, and I'm just like, this one's in the bag. Auburn and these motherfuckers, dude.

00:45:01
Speaker 2: Texas, Auburn, Kentucky and Tennessee.

00:45:05
Speaker 9: Nuts Tennessee.

00:45:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the rest of your schedule? Jack? With Tennessee.

00:45:11
Speaker 11: We have Oklahoma this week, which would be awesome, Dark Moade activated, and then we have New Mexico State Florida, excuse me, Florida, then New Mexico.

00:45:19
Speaker 9: State and then Vandy.

00:45:22
Speaker 11: So I mean we got three big games too, big ones, big ones.

00:45:27
Speaker 9: Yeah, Florida away Vandy home.

00:45:31
Speaker 1: Was Florida.

00:45:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, playoff game.

00:45:35
Speaker 1: We were on by this week we're looking for Yeah, okay, fair enough, any rumblings, it's.

00:45:42
Speaker 9: Lane kiffing her bus for Florida.

00:45:44
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin her bus.

00:45:45
Speaker 1: Alright, all right, Ole Miss too. They look nasty to old miss is nasty. Dan Lanning something, but he will go.

00:46:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Joe Brady.

00:46:01
Speaker 1: That would be heartbreaking for Oregon man.

00:46:03
Speaker 6: Joe Brady should go back to LSU be the head coach he was when they won the Natty.

00:46:08
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, we gotta wrap this up. Boys. Let's uh any parting thoughts anybody their team anything? Titans suck. Titans are the least competitive team in the NFL.

00:46:20
Speaker 10: I messaged with Ty Simpson after the game and he told me to let you know that you picked the wrong team, and he left it at that, which hurts me.

00:46:29
Speaker 2: Just that's crazy.

00:46:32
Speaker 1: He would just hurt you in order to hurt me. And yeah, hey, Ty, you were right. You keep that ball high and tight. Brother. After I get diego to New York. I have my goal. Well listen, you'll be there too. You'll be there too.

00:46:46
Speaker 4: We got NFL Talk coming up with Greg Olsen and we also who's on this one? Mike Elk a few interviews today. Mike Elko coach elco from A and M you'll get here from him. Awesome show big up sidey kisses, don't forget to leave comments and make sure you're subscribed.

00:47:02
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00:49:48
Speaker 4: Guys, I'll be fully transparent. This is gonna be a legitimate, full on old school podcast for your boy. Because I had a really good buddy of mine who had a wedding over the weekend and it was out in Sleepy Hollow. Service was rough. The wedding was on Sunday. I didn't get to watch a lick of football. I got to follow some of the scores. I was involved in the wedding. I had to fly into Loguardia drive an hour and a half to get up to Sleepy Hollow. Sleepy Hollow was wonderful. I'm talking about it is Halloween town. It was a good time. But as far as watching ball and coming correct on this podcast, this show Today with Greg Olsen, I'm it's more of like I'm gonna ask a few questions, sit and listen a little bit, maybe tell a couple jokes, because I didn't really get to watch the only thing I see as it feels like it was separation Sunday because there were a lot of ass beatings.

00:50:37
Speaker 1: A lot of ass beatings out there for sure. Yeah, let's start with so Greag called the Panthers Bills game. The Panthers got absolutely blown out.

00:50:44
Speaker 2: I saw that, dude, What the fuck happened to the Falcons.

00:50:49
Speaker 1: Okay, that's.

00:50:52
Speaker 2: What happened. What happened with their.

00:50:54
Speaker 1: Unimaginative in the run game. They've gotten found out they have not used b Jon Robinson the way they should. I know, Greg, We're we're not gonna have massive takes on this thing, but like, if you got arguably the best running back in the NFL, maybe keep them in the game more consistently.

00:51:08
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, I'm not sure. Every week in and week out, the Falcons are probably one of the biggest anomalies in the NFL. I mean, I just got done studying the Bills because I had the Bills Panthers game and the last game the Bills played before thereby was against the Falcons. And the Falcons beat them, and they looked great. The Geon's running for long touchdowns, and they looked really good on defense, getting after Josh and sacking them handful of times, and you're like, all right, Falcons are back. You know, Falcons found it. You know, earlier in the year they lost thirty to zero against the Panthers, and then they beat the Bills, and it just seems like every week they just alternate.

00:51:47
Speaker 2: Handled Washington, handle Washington, handled.

00:51:50
Speaker 9: Yeah, hand Washington. Then you get beat by the was it the Niners?

00:51:55
Speaker 4: It was close though, like they went out to San France, it was pretty it was close, right.

00:52:00
Speaker 1: It was closed. It was twenty to ten. But the run game was like non existent in San Francisco when they played. Because we Will after the Falcons Bills game, I saw the score. I didn't watch the whole game. There are other games on, so I was like, man, I wonder what happened there, and Will is like, Buddy, this team they're sticky in the secondary, their defensive line standing up, their run games, incredible Pennex he's getting the he's dished the ball. They got Drake one and they got Pitts. He's coming back.

00:52:24
Speaker 2: So I'm like, and they bullied the b I'm like, oh, I.

00:52:27
Speaker 1: Gotta go watch this film if you turn it on, and like, there's not a better team that one game there runs eleven personnel outside zone better than the Atlanta Falcons. You're like, oh, dude, these guys really have it figured out. Like not a lot of motion, not a lot of like window dressing on their plays, but they're like all off the time and are getting to their spots. They're getting pushed on the front side they're cutting off in the backside and Bijon looks incredible, So I dune Koolai with him twos where we're in the locker room the next week and we're breaking down who's gonna win forty nine ers of the Falcons and I'm kind of up in the air because Kyle Shannon to me, he's Coach of the Year candidate with all the injuries they've had and been able to still operate at extremely high level. Obviously they dropped this week and Will goes, don't overthink it. It's Falcons. I'm not saying that the throw shake because the Falcons and up losing that game. I'm saying I saw the film as well. I'm like, this team can be dominant. Yeah, and then these next two weeks happened. Yeah, and they play the Dolphins, who are like a walking out. It's Ootober, They're a zombie walking around. I'm thinking they're done. And wouldn't you know it, they dropped what thirty eight on them.

00:53:28
Speaker 4: When I checked the score one time, it was like thirty to three or something like that.

00:53:31
Speaker 9: I was like, it wasn't even close. It wasn't even competitive. Yeah, I I don't get it. I don't know how you can be so good one week and so bad. I understand stubbing your toe once in a while, Right, it's the NFL. You're gonna have a bad game, You're gonna have a bad outing. To be so back and forth weekend week out, get blown out, look like the best team in the league. Get blown out. It's it's almost hard to do. It's I don't even know how to wrap my head around it. It's pretty it's pretty amazing, especially.

00:54:05
Speaker 4: When you're you know, you're coach Morris and you're walking in like you know those vibes, like we're all professionals, and it's like, how are that we this wildly inconsistent?

00:54:16
Speaker 1: Right, they're the number one team in the NFL. That reminds me of a college football team. And when it comes inconsistencies, yeah, like all the boys went out last night, like like guice, you're you're paid professionals. We can't have this big of a drop off.

00:54:27
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what I don't like though. I don't like all the pistol.

00:54:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, well I don't.

00:54:32
Speaker 9: Like pistol zone. I like pistol counter, I like pistol pin and pull like, I think pistol is nice because if you are going to be primarily a gun team, which they are, especially with Pennix. I again, I didn't see much of the game yesterday. Did they change much with I know with with Cousins playing, I'm not sure, but prior they had been so pistol heavy, gun heavy, and I get why you don't want to just be single back, run off, set back, and it gets very telling where you're going with your zone stuff. So I get the pistol idea. I don't I think the angles are good. I don't think the play action is good. I don't think it has nearly the benefits that outside inside zone have from under center. I think that's a part of the issue in the NFL. I just don't think the angles front side. I think it gets really wide, it gets really strung out. Yeah, So I again not to get into super football in the weeds. I just think being so exclusively pistol makes everything else a little bit of a challenge.

00:55:27
Speaker 1: Now, I dide I agree with you, And darro Lovski talks about this all the time. He's like, his big trend this year is we need to make football under center again. That's like kind of like what he wants.

00:55:36
Speaker 9: And everybody's doing it.

00:55:37
Speaker 1: I completely agree with getting under the center snapping the ball because when the quarterbacks back is turned and obviously like it's going to help the play action pass so much more. Which is what you need against these like super exotic defenses nowadays, is you need guys to kind of get up so these zone windows are more open behind them. And when you're in the pistol, it's a quick little turn to the side and there's nothing like the tip about it to where it makes And you could speak on this well from a linebacker's perspective. If you're in the gun and he's just kind of turning and then goes into setup, it's like there's nothing giving you like, oh, I got to get down that gap to stop the run. Yeah, correct, And saying that.

00:56:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can transfer, You're able to transfer your eyes quicker and you feel like play action and everything else. If you're under center and they're pressing the gap, you're gonna take that extra step as a backer to whereas a pistol everything kind of unfolds a little bit quicker for you.

00:56:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, it just but that being said, the Falcons if I'm a betting man, which I am, I'm staying away from the Falcons the rest of the year. You just have no idea what you're gonna get. Like if I'm going to go in the FanDuel sportsbook gap and I'm not even gonna look at the Falcons logo anymore. It's it's terrifying. It's probably the scariest team to bet on. But the game we almost started talking about was the game you called, and I want you to break down Bill's Panthers a little bit short drive for you. That's where you played your career at I'm sure like when you're calling these games, you're thinking, you know, you want to be as unbiased as possible. There's probably a piec of you. It's like, man, I really hope and Andy Dalton can step in for Bryce on here and they can, you know, keep this home win streak alive and the Bills come off as by and just absolutely dominate all phases. James Cook has two hundred and fifteen yards on nineteen carries and two touchdowns. Like the defense stood up in a big way. It was it was obviously an extremely dominant performance across the board in all three phases for the Bills.

00:57:19
Speaker 2: What did you use?

00:57:19
Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway from those games?

00:57:21
Speaker 4: Before you answer that, how the fuck did the Jets win always get that much closer to getting in the game? Yeah, what the hell happened?

00:57:37
Speaker 1: I think you know, we're gonna stay focused.

00:57:41
Speaker 9: You're coming off the wedding, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot on your mind. Let's stay locked in. Yeah, me and Taylor will keep this on track. You just you're just hanging there.

00:57:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, rocky out there, but they had a couple too many times rain jacket.

00:57:53
Speaker 4: This is a rocky boy, This is a rocky you know.

00:57:57
Speaker 9: So it's actually fine. So what we were just talking about with the under center stuff, when you watch Buffalo, the Buffalo, we all remember of years ago of Josh being in you know, Josh Allen being in the gun and every ball being in his hand and it's dropped back pass and it's They have made a pretty remarkable transformation to a heavy under center, run, first mix in play action, run dominant offense, and it's been very intentional. I don't think their outside weapons are like traditional X. You know, they don't have like a traditional X receiver. That's gonna work, you know, the deeper zones and go up. I think Kean Coleman, they're still trying to get him going. It's a lot of quick, quick passes, a lot of run after catch, Khalil Shakir, you know, guys trying to you know, Kinkaid trying to get the ball in guy's hands and run after But yesterday it was just all about the run game. I mean, James Cook was incredible. He had like one hundred and thirty five yards after contact at I mean before contact at halftime. I mean he was he was ten fifteen yards into the teeth of what was a very good run defense in Carolina. He was ten ten twelve yards into their defensive second level before he was even being touched. You know, he broke a forty some fifty yard I can't remember exactly how fart was in the first half. He was incredible. The offensive line was great. So it was funny we're calling a game with Josh Allen and he's arguably the best player in the world and of course the reigning MVP. And he made some good throws. He made a couple typical Josh Allen scramble, drill, keep the play alive and get a conversion down, but like he was a pretty non factor, which I said at the end of the game. If I'm a Bills fan and I'm the Bills, I'm wildly encouraged by the fact that the best player in the league, potentially if not the top two or three, we were able to put up a forty spot be utterly dominant the entire game, and our best player had a much less impact than what we're accustomed to seeing. I think that's high encouraging because we all know come the end of the year, come playoff time, there's gonna be some Superman moments where it's gonna be all right, Josh, the days are just you lining up under center handing it to James Cook, like we need you to be Josh Allen, we need you to be the MVP, and we're gonna let you go roll designed quarterback, run, scramble, obviously pushing the ball downfield like those days are coming for them to be as good as they were offensively, and now say, okay, that's not even with Josh Allen being Josh Allen is I think it's scary. I think that's the recipe they want to be in the regular season. I think that's the recipe they think gets them over the hump. In the playoffs, defense was much better. Took took the ball away four times, one down to like the one yard line. Ajpanessa had an incredible tipped interception on a like a little tunnel screen, hit him in the hands, caught it, took it down to the one to set up a touchdown before the half. So it was a overall Buffalo dominant performance.

01:00:58
Speaker 1: The the whole. Josh Allen's got to be great. That is coming. I'm assuming in the next week is they're gonna have to play the Chiefs. I don't know if it's at the Chiefs or at the Bills, but the Chiefs played a night on monning at football, so I think they'll have to look at Josh Allen be like, hey, now you have to be this raining MVP, top three player in the NFL. But this is a This is a Will Compton after the Atlanta Falcons game, which is a big brain move by him by getting us to talk about that game. First is I asked him to say, hey, what do you think happening? He goes, bro they got away from the run way too quick. And just try to make Josh do everything. In that Falcons game, they go over the buye after that, and it seemed like they were in Will Compton's head where they're like, hey, let's run the ball till we can't type of situation, get under center and utilize the play action.

01:01:37
Speaker 4: So, especially if you got like the Bills question Will, like, I know they're in the conversation, are they going to go pick up like a defensive player? Like, they're pretty light in the ass at the second level, Like when you see them against the Falcons are a good run team that gets you going sideways. That is where their weakness is. I love that they had takeaways, but an example of that too is you look at the Bears. The Bears were like number one in the league at takeaways, and then you go and play against a team who ends up taking care of the football that game and when those weaknesses start to show itself. What fires me up about the Bills is if you're winning the football game, especially under center in the run game with James Cook, you're gonna be able to control the clock more, You're gonna be able to sustain drives longer. But if you do get that shootout. If you do get in those high scoring matches against good offenses, that's where I get nervous because I feel like they're front seven has been a little questionable when it comes to stopping the run and everything else, because you can't just assume they're gonna take the ball away, you know what I mean. If you're leaning on that, I know, that's like you know, some momentum, once you get hot, it starts to happen, you start taking the football away. But if you're just leaning on that, I feel like those weaknesses in late season football will start to rear its ugly head if you know, if they don't go and get somebody on defense, or if they just don't consistently eat weekend and week out, start taking care of these things defensively where they do where they have had question marks. So I am like, I'm fired up that they ran the ball a lot more with James Cook. I think this is an offense that you get going and when they're not getting touched, you know they're getting into the second level of the defense. My only reminder and experience is the Tennessee Tights. When Derrick Henry gets going in your football really well, and then when Josh Allen makes a playoff of it's like, oh shit, they also have Josh Allen the running MVP. But I know, for me, not not watching them defensively against the Panthers, for me, my whole question mark was, Man, they just don't They don't seem like their defense is going to match the offense unless they're living under center and they can keep them kind of off the field.

01:03:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, the impressive thing about the Bills defense in this game was not just the turnovers, but I mean, Panthers, their bread and butter is running duo, running gaps game, double teaming the doubt and getting into the getting into the meat of the secondary between the both the tackles, and I hought they did a great job in that game, Like they did a good job of stuffing the run, making them pass, causing turnovers.

01:03:53
Speaker 2: Because of it, Chiefs.

01:03:54
Speaker 4: Will be a great benchmark for him because Chiefs are playing fantastic, They're playing great, and they obviously put a night.

01:03:59
Speaker 9: But one last thing, because what you guys are saying is the real teeth of the conversation that I think sometimes people ignore the ability. So we'll just take Buffalo since we're obviously talking about them. Their ability to play run defense obviously has been a conversation going into that Panther game. The run defense was historically bad. They were giving up chunk plays at a record rate, giving up a lot of yards before and after contact. The tackling like that was everything Buffalo was talking about addressing at the bye week right down into the Panther game. But the part everyone has to realize is, if you want to get better at run defense, just score a lot more points on offense. Right, Like, your ability to mask one side of the ball or the other is less about just improving that phase of your team and more about phasing the complementary piece on the other side of the ball. So if you're a team that really struggles running the ball, you've got to make this a shootout. You've got to have an offense that can generate points, finish drives and then yes, if you get take and that can also mask some of those issues. But all of a sudden, you get into a slugfest and you get into a game where maybe you're not finishing, you're kicking a lot of field goals. Maybe your run game is going into a tough matchup up front, you just can't get anything going. That's where Josh Allen, that's where having the best player in the league now they get untapped in and say, all right, Josh, it's time now to put this game on your back, because we don't want to be in a fourteen to ten second half game when a team could just run the ball at us thirty times. So that's kind of the back and forth. That's the cat and mouse game. And that's why having ultimately Josh Allen as your quarterback, even if right now you want to be a heavy run team, there is gonna be a time where Josh is gonna have to take the game over because they're not built defensively to play a thirty attempt run game in a low scoring battle. They have not shown that that's the strength. And at Oliver goes out to injury with a byseep yesterday, hoping it's not as bad as it looked. He did not return. So, Yeah, little light up front, little light on the second and third level. I don't know if that's the type of game they want to make a you know they want to major in.

01:06:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, the game, the game coming up against the Chiefs is massive because Obviously, when you win the division, you play the best best teams in all the other divisions. And the Patriots, who get what they were fourth last year in the division AFC East, I believe, so four to third, they were not great. They they're in a six game winning streak right now. They just took arguably one of the best defenses in all of the NFL and put thirty two on them Drake May two eighty two, three touchdowns. So they have to get their ass going, like there is no if you want to win the division, you want to end this year with possibly a bye, you got to win out broh.

01:06:42
Speaker 4: Because the Patriots are in a great spot. And I'm I'm curious too to dive into all their second ha statistics because they seem like a team that's adjusted really well at halftime, because I want to say, just checking the side coaching. Yeah, it seemed like it was close going into halftime. And then obviously, like Drake May, he's one of the best quarterbacks right now in the NFL. And the Patriots are just a team and they have the schedule like they could win. I feel like they're going to win the AFC East.

01:07:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, their schedule definitely sets them up for sure. They have Drake May perfect passing rating over twenty yards. He's bawling out right now. And it did get Harry for a second. Like you know, the the rookie what's his name, Will Campbell? Will Campbell, he had himself a tough day against Miles Garrett. People said he give up five sacks. This is not he didn't give up all five sacks. When they were showing the highlights, there was a couple on the right tackle as well. I know that personally that that's something I want to defend for my boy, Will K Taylor.

01:07:35
Speaker 4: Taylor sees five sacks in a game, and I really went back and watched all us.

01:07:39
Speaker 1: It wasn't all Will Campbell. Okay, also Drake me gotta get the ball it a couple of times there. But yeah, this team. You see Miles Garrett, he's frustrated. He gheits five sacks in the game and he's still slamming his helmet on the sideline because their team just cannot win games even though he's being superman out there. But these Patriots, dude, have you were you able to watch the game at all?

01:07:59
Speaker 9: I saw some of the high I saw some of the clips. I went back. I try to, you know, after my game's over, if it's not in the late window and I'm home to watch the late window, I try to just go and just at least familiarize myself with, you know, the matchups and who played well, and take a look at the box score in the highlights and try to get some context. You know, I think the Miles Garrett thing is going to be a storyline all year. I think, you know, you go back to that, you know, I think he goes back to that decision in the summer where he made it pretty clear that he wanted to be out, that he wanted to go somewhere else, and then obviously they threw a ton of money at him and he signed up for it.

01:08:33
Speaker 5: Right.

01:08:33
Speaker 9: You signed up knowing you had some questions that quarterback, You had some questions in a lot of different areas. The defense was gonna be good, you knew that. But the reality is, in the regular season, offense is where you're gonna win. Right, Offense is going to drive it, and then defense will kind of tip the scales a little bit more. Once we just get all the bad teams out in the playoffs, and defense seems to have a lot more correlation to advancing in the playoffs than it does in the regular season, so he kind of knew what you signed up for. He is incredible. I think he's going to make a lot of offensive lineman looks stupid. I don't think it's the young rookie from New England. I don't think it's unique to him. But yeah, they've got serious issues, especially offensively. They got a lot of lot more questions than answers. But Drake May, I mean he's in the MVP conversation, and I think what's so cool about this year is the MVP conversation through week eight is really a bunch of It's not the typical Josh Allen's and mahomes as good as they are, and maybe by the year end they will be the last one standing. But like Daniel Jones, Drake May, I think Jordan Love has been incredible. I mean, this next kind of crop of young quarterbacks is playing incredible ball through call it the first half the season. I think that's what's made this season so fun to follow as just a football fan.

01:09:49
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield as well, but he didn't have the best Baker Baker, Baker, Sammy Donald, Sammy Donald, Yeah, those bunch of them.

01:09:57
Speaker 4: It's funny because like mahone, he's playing, he's playing incredible.

01:10:01
Speaker 2: He'll he'll be in the conversation.

01:10:03
Speaker 4: But just taking that crop you listed where it was like whether it's Baker Mayfield, Danny Dime, Sam Darnold, Drake may if those four, if their names were all these upper tier guys like the Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, if those guys are having the season that these young cats are having that were naming, nobody else would be in the conversation. It would just be those three to four guys. But no matter what, we're always gonna hang on to even even if Lamar pops off at the back of the season, He'll still be in the conversation. Yeah, Like, you'll still give these guys chances to be in the conversation even though they're not having the season that these other guys are having.

01:10:39
Speaker 9: Right and talking about Lamar. As bad as things have looked for Baltimore, buddy, they're gonna get Lamar back at some point and obviously that changes everything. That win yesterday now obviously only their second, but with the way that AFC North Division is shaping up. It seems like Steelers can't run away with it. They haven't been able to run away with it. They lose last night to Green Bay. I think it seems like the world is coming to an end in Baltimore. They're two games back and the idea being that you have to imagine Lamar is probably back this week, if not the following. So as bad as things have started, you have sometimes the benefit of being in a bad division. I've been there. I won a division one time in the NFC South that we went seven to eight and one and we won the division and hosted a playoff game. Like sometimes the nature of the league is your division stinks and you have a little bit more margin for error, So don't I'm not completely out on Baltimore, even though things have looked really bad, and obviously Lamar's return is a big part of me.

01:11:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, just going off of that game, I think this is a bigger win for the Ravens than people even realize, because is where the Bears done so great is they played great defense, they get in takeaways, and they've ran the ball incredibly well. Where the Ravens have really struggled to go back to that Lions game. Make those two running backs for the Lions were running all over the Ravens and you get Rokwan Smith back, you at Kyle van Noi back and their defense, I mean Kyle Hamilton, dude, he is absolutely incredible. They were able to stop the run pretty consistently. And I start a cool uh maybe not cool staff for Caleb Williams. But first quarter the Bears are plus twenty two in their point differential and Caleb Williams is throwing out seventy one percent quarters two through four, Caleb is like fifty one percent?

01:12:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah was that?

01:12:24
Speaker 1: So it just shows was that our boy coward that you're popping on coward as well? But yeah, it just seems like when they're on script. Ben Johnson he is play calling is great, he does everything, he does everything the way he wants, but then his quarterback looks at the first or second read and then he just wants to run for his life. When I think that, Ben Johnson's like, really not about that. But their defense has played really well. And for Tyler Huntley, Tyler Huntley for him to be twelve or thirteen after the first half is awesome, so they keep getting healthy. The Steelers, they probably should have lost this game against the Packers. I think everybody thought that was gonna happen, but the Bank was the week prior to that. It's like, that's a wide open division right now between those two teams. And I think the Ravens come back and win it now. They had a chance to put it away with even that Bengals win the Bengals game.

01:13:12
Speaker 9: The Bengals game losing losingto the Packers. I think the Packers are good. I think Jordan Love is good. I think that's a young team, They're super talented. Craft was insane. I mean he looked like the best player on the field. I got Green Bay this week. They I go to Lambeau this week. I got them hosting the Panthers. So that will see how that goes.

01:13:34
Speaker 1: But we know how that'll go.

01:13:37
Speaker 9: That's gonna be tough.

01:13:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a tough one. It's gonna be a tough one for the Panthers.

01:13:40
Speaker 9: That's gonna be yeah. But yeah, that the for the Steelers, that game against Flacco and the Bengals, and Mike Tomlin called it, I mean Mike Tomlin was like, I don't know what the Browns are thinking. They must be smarter than the rest of us, But they send a guy that was the week one starter to an inn an in division rival that is reeling at the position and giving them fresh life, and now they the first game he beats, He beats, you know, he beats the Steilers, and Tomlin looks like a genius. And then obviously they lose to the Jets, but he scored thirty eight. Yeah, so he's definitely given the Bengals a little bit of life. Defensively, they're still struggle bust there in Cincinnati.

01:14:20
Speaker 1: No dude, the Jets getting their first win to me.

01:14:24
Speaker 9: Who would have thought they were gonna score thirty nine points.

01:14:26
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah? And that's what sucks too, is because we all we've all kind of, like said, the Bengals defense is horrendous, but like it's kind of been masked and the quarterback play has gone a whole lot better. So it's kind of quiet down. But you lose to a Jets who's won zero games, it tells me two things. One, the Bengals are as bad as we thought they were on defense, and two we stayed in Nashville, Tennessee. I think we're looking at the least competitive NFL football team in the NFL right now, and that is the Tennessee Titans because of it. And it's just it sucks to say because that's where I played my career at. But we had a whole lot to figure out over there. Yea Eagles, Yeah, we've all. Hey, budd it, we've all. We've all had some tough times. It makes the good times that much better. Uh, Eagles are back, dude.

01:15:09
Speaker 4: I listen Sae Kwan, he's on my fantasy football team. See him put up north of thirty and seeing him, what did he have? Like over one hundred yards, a couple.

01:15:17
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty and a touchdown on the ground, one through the air, twenty four. Uh. Receiving as well. Hurt is growing. Jalen Hurts. He gets four touchdowns.

01:15:27
Speaker 5: Four touchdown.

01:15:28
Speaker 9: Yeah, he didn't throw for a lot of yards, but he threw four touchdowns, which was super efficient. I think Saquon popped off the second play of the game.

01:15:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's dude. That has been a trend of theirs. If you pop on like the first series of every one of their games. Like they run the ball very effectively, and then.

01:15:43
Speaker 2: Sakuon looks like he's gonna have a game yeah, and then all of.

01:15:45
Speaker 1: A sudden, they like change their run game and it doesn't work out. I haven't gone back and washing the film. I just saw it live, but it seemed like they kind of stuck with the same type of run plan as they did in the first series as supposed to going like to a bunch of different kind of run type of schemes, and it worked out well for them. They're off its line obviously. Seemed like they play played a whole lot better. Cam Skataboo r I p the boy dude like the heart and soul of the giants, like I don't want to We're not gonna be massive takes. But the giants are dead like they're they're not. It's over for them.

01:16:18
Speaker 4: I saw the I just saw the group chats firing up. I saw you know, Clump, He's like eagles are bags, say kwan, YadA YadA. Then I see the cam Skataboo post and it's like, dude, take my leg right, take from my body.

01:16:35
Speaker 9: Him put his hands up to his teeth like to his buddy, like he like with the instinct of like, hey, help me up, and everyone was like no, man, like, we're gonna stay right where we are to get you to your help. Like his instinct was like I gotta get up. Yeah, he like put his hands up in the air for someone to like lift them off the ground. I think his teammates were like, sorry, brother, but yeah, there's an have to kind.

01:16:58
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, if you're seeing what I'm seeing, you're gonna.

01:17:00
Speaker 1: There's always at once one offensive lineman that's like, please don't get him out of here, because everyone it's all. Dude, when you see that, I'm sure you've seen it during a game when you were playing, Like, dude, it is mentally torturous. I mean you hate it for that who what happens to the guy? But the next five or six plays, if you're able to sustain a drive is like everyone, even the defense is like, hey, let's all kind of look out for each other a little bit, isn't it weird? Like a weird little like we got to make sure everyone's good here.

01:17:27
Speaker 2: We can really get fucked up in this game.

01:17:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. We were playing the Dolphins.

01:17:32
Speaker 9: Doesn't matter if your teammate the other team, for a moment there. It doesn't matter what team it is, it's just everyone is having a collective like this is awful.

01:17:42
Speaker 5: Right.

01:17:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were playing the Panthers and one of it, it was late in the game, y'all were blowing us out and I was playing against Jared Allen and one of the receivers went off from the corner of the sideline had like an inkle dislocation. Jared and I kind of sat there the next three plays. He's like, I'll tell you if someone's behind you, and I was like, bro, thank you. So we got hemmed up, and there was one play we got hemmed up and he kind of stonewalled me a little bit, goes and we kind of like shifted together for a little bit. It's like that is really the mental thing for everybody if that as like once you see everything, you know, the health issues, it's crazy because good news is it looked like a straight up just a dislocation because it was right there at the bottom of that bone middle hit his leg, like the middle of his leg was facing the wrong way. But yeah, that's that's the heart and soul of the Giants. I think Dabile saves it saved his job for sure, seeing this this boost of energy, and he should keep his job. But uh, that was tough. The Eagles, however, the Eagles are for real. Now they're for real.

01:18:37
Speaker 9: I called so, I mean their ability offensively. I always thought defensively they'd find their way. I think Fangio's really good. I think they had some issues on the edge that they're still trying to work through. But I think defensively they were always going to end up being good and figuring it out. I know they had a couple of games here and there, obviously the Giants game being the one couple of weeks ago. But offensively, I saw them at I saw them against Minnesota last week, and Hurts played probably the best game that we've seen him play in a really long time. I mean, he was pushing the ball downfield, he was accurate, he was buying time with his legs like Saquon in the run game was a pretty non factor against the Vikings and Janalen Hurts was awesome. And now this week Saquon gets off, he goes for one point fifty, getting back to those early explosive runs for touchdowns that really powered their Super Bowl run last year, where he's running for sixty and seventy yard touchdowns. The defense has taking the ball away. Now you get hurts in the passing game back going thrown for four They're never going to be a consistently high volume passing game from a sense of like pure yardage. They'll pop off every now and then. Obviously he did against Minnesota, but four touchdowns, I don't even think he threw. Did he throw for over two hundred yards? I don't think he did.

01:19:49
Speaker 2: No, he threw for a one seventy nine.

01:19:51
Speaker 9: Yeah, shit, But obviously you get Saquon. They've always been I've always said they're the hardest beat in the league because they can beat you in so many different ways. Defensively, they can take the ball away, they've got fourth down, they can pass, throw skill roster like I just I don't know why people are so quick to jump off their bandwagon. It seems like every year and then it's just by the end of the year, they're the team to beat in the NFC for all those different factors.

01:20:19
Speaker 4: You think they're the team to beat in the NFC because I feel you like Eagles. To me, I'm not willing to say. I'm not convinced enough to say that they're back, that they're the team to beat.

01:20:29
Speaker 9: Because who's the team to beat in the NFC?

01:20:31
Speaker 1: In your mind, I think it's the Lions.

01:20:34
Speaker 2: I think the Lions. Lions are playing good. You got the Lions, You've got the Packers.

01:20:39
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sold in the Packers.

01:20:41
Speaker 2: I'm not.

01:20:42
Speaker 9: I like the Packers Seattle to the Rams. I think, Yeah, I had the I had the Rams Philly game. Uh week I don't know, God, I can't remember now, like week two or three. Yeah, and the first half of the game they couldn't score a touchdown. It was a red zone field goal contest. And then Jalen Hurts came to life in the second half with AJ Brown and they came back and won. And that's when Jordan Davis blocked that field goal and took it back as the wall. You know, not a walk off, but like the last play of the game, I feel it. Yeah, I think all those teams are good. I think the Philly. Philly just has that pedigree right now. Right They're used to winning, They're used to winning those close games. They can they could play a lot of different formulas. If their offense isn't great, they can get picked up defensively if Jalen's having a bad day, Saquon, if Saquon can't get rolling. They got the receivers, and like the offensive line, can they stay healthy and get healthy? And now Dickerson, like they got I think the best tackle combo in the league, Tyler. I love your perspective, Like I think Lane and my Lotta are the best combination to duo in the league. Like, they just got so many different things they can hang their hat on. They don't have to play perfectly to win. I think we've seen that over the last two years. Those teams seem to do well in those one, you know, winner, you're out kind of situations. They're not best of five series. You got to win one game, and they're really tough to beat.

01:22:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it comes to the tackles, I haven't been able to watch him break down this film just yet, so I'll save my opinion on this on this pass game. But the couple weeks prior to that, with the offensive line, when it came to the run game, it was like one guy here or there, and especially during the vikings, like my Alata had himself a couple of times being at the point of the run game. He was having a very difficult time guys going inside, moving around like he wasn't moving his feet very consistently, and then laying on the backside of a lot of plays. He was kind of he wasn't getting that cut off the way you usually see him. He had to go get savvy, get a couple of those reach around blocks. The duo to me right now that is like number one in the NFL is Pina Suwel and Taylor Decker. And that's kind of what keeps me leaning towards the Lions is they had a tough game a couple of weeks ago against the Chiefs. It was last week or two weeks ago, but from a defensive stand point, now was a couple weeks ago because they played the Buccaneers right last week played the Bucks and they had every single guy and their defensive secondary, their starters were out and their secondary played, and they pretty much shut down Baker Mayfield and their and their offensive the wide receivers. And I just think something about that under center Jared Goff throwing on time play action pass like with both those running backs. That team, to me, along with their culture when things don't go their way. They don't waiver. That is a team that I can see winning it all, or let the very least winning the NFC and making to the Zuer Bowl this year. When it comes to Eagles, it's like you see it, you see it here and there, like, Okay, the run game wasn't great, but the defense stepped up. Jalen Hurts has a game a couple of weeks ago, and then this is this is the first week I've seen it where it's like, Okay, this looks like a championship caliber team. Now we have to see it more consistently for it all get done. But it just seems like one or two things here and there. I think after after seeing this game, Lions.

01:23:55
Speaker 2: Got the run game.

01:23:56
Speaker 4: They got, they got the play calling, They got a quarterback that can win you this See Bowl. They got they can take you through the air, on the ground. Their defense is very salty. Their front seven h Hutchinson. And then we'll just get after your ask him. Does Hutchinson lead the league in uh in pressures?

01:24:12
Speaker 1: I think he No. I think Garrett leads the league and pressure or Benito leads the league pressures. Hudginson has had a sacking of pressure in every single game.

01:24:19
Speaker 2: Dude, he gets after people.

01:24:21
Speaker 4: It's just the backs, like the way the decordinator Kelvin Sheppard has those guys playing, especially when you have a full backup squad in there in the secondary. I just feel like they're the more complete team. That looks like an operation in a machine. They did drop against the Chiefs, but that game the Chiefs had against the Lions, like that was that was potentially a preview of the Super Bowl.

01:24:42
Speaker 9: Like though, that was a that was a heavy right, And I agree with everything you guys are saying. It's probably fair. You know, I wouldn't disagree if they ended up winning the NFC and going to Super Bowl, I wouldn't be shocked. Here's what I will say, though, you start looking at Okay, what you know, it's early, we're doing like the whole playoff projection thing. But do you think it's a four conclusion that the Detroit Lions win the division?

01:25:03
Speaker 1: I know you're going with this, and the answer is no, because the Packers are still in that division.

01:25:07
Speaker 9: You think it's a foregone conclusion. Can you see a scenario that that the Eagles don't win the NFC East?

01:25:16
Speaker 2: No? Correct? I see.

01:25:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're seeing, you're saying, you're talking to go home, And I think that's all the best teams don't always make the biggest runs, right, Like, there's so many factors.

01:25:29
Speaker 9: There's a luck, there's we just got done talking about how your your division can stink or you can do. You know, last year, the Minnesota Vikings win fourteen games and they got to go They're not even the division winner, they're a wild card team because because the division was so good. Like, there's a lot of factors that go into all of this, and that literally could be the deciding factor. Detroit could be better than Philly, but all of a sudden, that game's in Philly and it's cold, and it's the home field advantage, and it's one of one. You don't get to play a home and away. It's not baseball, right Like, you're not getting Oh don't worry, we'll we'll get to their place and then we get to come back home to Detroit in the Dome. Like that's sometimes the luck of the draw. So I think there's a lot of factors on how it all plays out. But yeah, you're probably right, those are probably the two clear cut, maybe not clear cut, but those are probably the two leaders in the clubhouse. I still think the Rams are really good.

01:26:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.

01:26:22
Speaker 9: Defensively they're nasty. I think Stafford's awesome. They got to get Pooka back. Outside of that, I think there's a lot of one dimensional NFC teams that have different areas that they're good, but just don't have the whole package to see them right now making a big run.

01:26:38
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, behold on, what about what about Seattle? What about Tampa? Like those are two teams to.

01:26:43
Speaker 9: Me, I just fear that Tampa's lost too much juice.

01:26:47
Speaker 2: I do too. I agree with you.

01:26:48
Speaker 9: I agree with you, like Baker's incredible, whether in the storm has been incredible. I just think at some point you can only weather losing. So we saw it happened to Detroit last year, right, It was like, oh man, Detroit can lose anyone and they just keep playing. They're so good on defense. Well, at some point as good of a coach as Todd Bowles is as good of a coach as Dan Campbell was last year, and Aaron Glenn the decordinator trying to figure out ways to play without their best players like the NFL man as the when the playoffs come and all the bad teams have been sent home and we're only left with the top dogs, Eventually it catches up to you. That's what concerns me about Tampa.

01:27:31
Speaker 1: That's a that's an extremely fair good news.

01:27:34
Speaker 4: For Tampa though, is they're in a division that's you got to say gone, you will be in the playoffs.

01:27:40
Speaker 9: Their division is brutal, but you're.

01:27:42
Speaker 1: Right when it gets to the cream of the crop. Every like all the bad teams have out now they're all in Tombo, Sat Lucas or ken Kun for the week. These teams like Tampa's probably gonna have to go to these plays, these cold weather places during the playoffs and can they stand up? Can they keep this level consistency with Baker for the whole entire year. So yeah, it's a great point. Seattle though, same.

01:28:02
Speaker 9: I think he's defense now.

01:28:03
Speaker 1: I think they're solid. Yeah, the one game there, one game solid. I wish Kenneth Walker would be more more north and south guy, I can't stand the east and west movement.

01:28:13
Speaker 9: That's a bouncer.

01:28:13
Speaker 1: He's a bouncer and it's awesome because it's it's home run hitting. But also you live by the Stordy diebus or there's a lot more TfL as in come than home runs.

01:28:21
Speaker 9: So yeah, I like I like Seattle a lot. I had them. I had them early in the year and they were still trying to you know, Kubiak, the new OC they were trying to get I actually had them week one. I had them week one against San Francisco. Sometimes all these games like blend together. I can't remember who I call when where. Yeah, I had them week one. So obviously, first game of Donald, first game of Kubiak. I like McDonald, I like the head coach. That's a tough place. I mean, we've all played there. That is a nightmare place to play on the road, let alone in a playoff game. So can they win the NFC West.

01:28:57
Speaker 4: Which similar situation with Lions Pack Like Rams and Seattle is gonna be fighting there till the end.

01:29:03
Speaker 9: And they're gonna be fighting Niners again. I just injuries Shanahan. I think Shanahan and Robert Sala have done a remarkable job. I just it might be the best coaching job of Shanahan's career. And Robert Sala is going to probably get a head job again because of what he's done. But you can only weather losing these guys for so long, Like you're not getting Fred back. Yeah, he's arguably by the best. Like you're not getting them back. Hopefully they get pretty back. And they finally got Kiddle back after missing the first five games, and like it's just the injuries in San Francisco. You just scratch your head and say, like how long can you weather this? And can you get enough of these guys back early enough that you're still in contention that even if Seattle runs, even if you know, even if Seattle and and the Rams run away with the division, but like, can you stay afloat? Can you get a can you get three teams from one division in the playoffs? We've seen it, It happens, But it's you got to get you got to get your guys back before you know you're in the final stretch of the season.

01:30:09
Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's a good point. You were definitely getting to the point of the season where all the fun storylines of injured teams that are still rallying through. It seems like that might be coming to an end at this point, Like you can only you're right, You're you're absolutely right when you say you can only do it for so long.

01:30:23
Speaker 9: And again, a lot of the teams that seem like they're weathering the storm and the teams that don't handle injury loss as well. Some of it's internal, right, some of it's just roster depth, roster construction, the ability of a play caller to mask injuries, to o line or you know, whatever it is. But there's also an element of like, can you get lucky in the game that you don't have your starting quarterback, or you don't have your starting left tackle, or you lose mike backer for two weeks and you play into a stretch of games against a bunch of teams that just aren't very good. Yeah, right, so there there, and some teams you're like, all right, I just lost my three best players, and now I got to go play the Chiefs, and now I got to go play the Bills, and you got to go play some of these, you know, high level teams. So there's so much luck and randomness to the NFL. I think that's what makes it so fun. You know, some years your schedule is incredibly difficult. In other years, your schedule is really easy. I think that's part of that's why the regular season I don't always think is the greatest predictor of playoffs success because, as we've said, now, like when all the bad teams get sent home, typically everybody in the playoffs has a good offense. You're not in the playoffs if you're not scoring points. And then the defense now becomes the X factor of what now is the next differentiator between advancing or just being happy that you made the playoffs.

01:31:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then late October two, like we're getting into November football, like teams are gonna start hitting their hitting their stride a little bit and seeing what their identity is rolling into the playoffs. Because again it's like you look at all these scores over the weekend, like pretty one sided.

01:31:55
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it honestly is a perfect transition to the Denver Broncos and the Cowboys, because, Buddy, the Cowboys are the Broncos defense is incredible. Bo Nicks just getting better. They start slow. They started slow in this game, but it ended up being their best first quarter they've had. Buddy, I feel like I transferred high schools and I see the pretty girl, the hot cheerleader, and the hot chee lader is the Dallas Cowboys.

01:32:21
Speaker 2: I see them.

01:32:22
Speaker 1: You know, I look kind of nice. Everyone's like, you gotta watch out for her. Rumor has it she's a little bit like the town bicycle a little bit. And I'm like, no, dude, this one seems a little different. So I go on a date. We said girl this week. Yeah, she's turning a page, like this maturity involved different with me.

01:32:36
Speaker 2: Yeah with me.

01:32:37
Speaker 1: I go and I hitch my my name to the wagon of Cowboys fandom for one week. And I literally got there. I got on the bird yesterday and I sat there and I was like, I I my heart goes out to all you cowboy fans who got to feel this like life of luxury in the nineties and eighties or whatever it was, and now you for the last twenty five years you've had to deal with this. Because I walked into that Broncos game. Haven't won their nineteen ninety six, all those things, and I'm like, defense looked really good against the Commanders. This is the number one scoring offense in the entire league. Like, maybe we're flipping the strip. Maybe I'm buying this stock low. Who would have known it was a two thousand and eight market crash because it was hard, horrendous I bought it.

01:33:15
Speaker 9: I say, when you say jumped on the bandwagon, you mean you put some action on it.

01:33:20
Speaker 1: No, I actually didn't. I actually did not. I I to the bandwagon publicly. I was publicly being like, the Cowboys can really get this.

01:33:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, And all the shows Taylor was heavy.

01:33:32
Speaker 4: Taylor was like, you know what, I'm buying the cow I'm buying the Cowboys.

01:33:35
Speaker 9: Dude.

01:33:36
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer his play calling on offense, the run game will like, he's what I think he's number two in the league in rushing. You got yeah, yeah, pick in ceedee lamb. It's like, how are you stopping them? Fun fact that broncos knew exactly how to stop them? Like it was extremely it was, man, probably it was so impressive to see. And the first drive, bow Nicks does a pick and I'm thinking I did it. I finally cracked a code on how this works. Man, I'm the man tweet out. Maybe I was right that type of thing. We go down, they get three score score.

01:34:09
Speaker 9: Sez takes then just bit where yeah, oh you're.

01:34:12
Speaker 1: Looking at it. You're just like, why did I dude? It was brutal, but yeah.

01:34:18
Speaker 9: Yeah, And again obviously the week prior Denver has the getting blown out nineteen nothing and they score thirty three in the fourth against the Giants, And that game was obviously hotly debated about end of game strategy and the clock and whatever. But like, I don't know if anyone came out of that Denver game against the Giants saying, like, oh man, these guys are for They had an incredible comeback and almost felt more of like a Giant's meltdown than it did. Again, you score thirty three in the fourth, you deserve a lot of credit. But like the Giants certainly didn't help themselves closing that game in the fourth quarter with some of the things they did on both sides of the ball. The problem with Dallas, and we cover a ton of Dallas games, is like and another offense wasn't great yesterday, and partly was the Broncos defense, But their offense week in and week out, especially now with CD back going with pickings like that offense can let you up for thirty in a minute, like they have been putting thirty on people. They've been scoring. Dak's been really good. They're historically bad on defense, and I think at some point for a play caller who's also the head coach, and you're trying to match sides of the ball, and you're trying to come up with the script for the week to say, Okay, how are we going to win this game? When you have to go into every game and you just have to assume it's going to take thirty to win, it is filtered into every decision that you make, and from every first down play call to every It is so hard mentally to go into the game and say, every time we kick a field goal, and every time if we have to punter, god forbid dak throws an interception, the game's probably over. Like that is really really challenging and so terriful Dallas can figure out how to keep people from scoring a million points. I think that's gonna weigh down the Dallas offense, for as good as they are. I just it's it's virtually impossible over long periods of time to operate in that head space where if we don't score on every possession, we're gonna lose.

01:36:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Yeah, I mean that is that's that is well said.

01:36:29
Speaker 1: And I know we're playing Monday quarterback, but it's like you saying that I'm thinking to myself, how do I not see that the entire time.

01:36:35
Speaker 9: No, I've been high. I I know the last couple of weeks. Maybe he's cooled off, but I think I said on I can't remember what show I said it on, But like, people like, all right, who do you think's in the MVP conversation through week five? You know, all this stuff that me and you talk that we don't love doing. But I got asked and you know, you mentioned, you know, the usual suspects and then kind of the new cast of guys we touched on with Drake may And and Daniel Jones and whatnot. But I'm like, hey, Dak's playing as good a courquarterback as anybody in the league.

01:37:01
Speaker 5: Is.

01:37:02
Speaker 9: The problem is at the time, I think they only had one or two wins. You know, his defense is historically bad, but as far as just playing the most important position at a high level, Dak is in that conversation. So I've been high on Dallas for years because I've seen the potential there offensively when Dak's in the game, it's just they can't seem to recapture any of the magic they had on defense. And you don't have to be a killer defensively, to be good in the regular season in today's NFL, especially if your offense is scoring thirty you just can't be the worst. And that's you know, they just need to somehow get to like middle of the road with a top five offense, you're gonna win a lot of games in the NFL.

01:37:43
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right if you if you can just tag the Cowboys defense with the word mediocre, yeah, just be average, yep, then they would be.

01:37:53
Speaker 9: Even just now you're not gonna win the Super Bowl.

01:37:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe below average. Yeah, it's not the worst.

01:37:59
Speaker 1: You could actually be the worst, just not historically the worst. Like you could even take on the title of yeah, they're thirty second, but they're not we're.

01:38:07
Speaker 9: Points per in points per game because I haven't had Dallas in the last couple of weeks in points per game, Dallas was like two within a couple of weeks. So where where are they now? Is the dust settled through this past weekend's game?

01:38:22
Speaker 5: Is it?

01:38:22
Speaker 9: Can your guys look better?

01:38:23
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are I think are scoring thirty one, just over thirty one points per game the Cowboys, which is what I think it was like one. I think it was one. I think they were.

01:38:32
Speaker 9: Number one, So they're one, and defensively, I want to say they're thirty first or thirty second.

01:38:36
Speaker 1: They're thirty second, and they're giving up like thirty two or thirty three game.

01:38:40
Speaker 4: Right now, here's where they stand. They are third in the league with thirty and a half points per game, thirty first in the league defensively given up thirty one point three points per game.

01:38:50
Speaker 1: So even on average they're giving up what's.

01:38:53
Speaker 9: The twentieth what's the twentieth best defense in points per game? Will what's the what's twentieth twentieth? How many points?

01:39:00
Speaker 4: Let me see here ahead, give me a second, because I was clicking on the team.

01:39:04
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just didn't know if there was like a list and you could just see like the difference between thirty first and twentieth.

01:39:11
Speaker 1: But yeah, just be bottom half.

01:39:13
Speaker 9: That's my point, Like, you don't even need to be you're scoring thirty one a game and thirty and a half a game.

01:39:20
Speaker 1: I'm so curious.

01:39:21
Speaker 4: Twenty fifth is Chicago twenty six? How many twenty six point four?

01:39:28
Speaker 9: Yeah, score thirty one. You can win thirty one twenty six. The math works.

01:39:32
Speaker 1: The math. The math maths there. Yeah, yeah, this is not a question for you to answer because it's like puts you in a position. But this is me being curious that maybe people can comment on, like what is the problem there with the Cowboys defense? Is it ebra flufs and his play calling or is he doesn't have the horses. I know they've got a couple of injuries, but there's no way Micah Parsons changes the defense of that much. There's no way.

01:39:57
Speaker 2: There's still towards the bottom. I feel like last year.

01:39:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't great last year.

01:40:01
Speaker 9: It's a this is just my observation, So people can take a what they want. But I'm happy to ask the question because I actually think it's bigger than just this sample size of you know, whether they played seven games, eight games.

01:40:14
Speaker 5: Whatever it is.

01:40:16
Speaker 9: You go back to the you go back to the twenty twenty three season when they obviously get upset at home. They have an incredible, incredible season. Dak's a potential MVP, Michael Parsons potent, you know, defensive Player of the Year type, like that twenty three season that came to a screeching hal they get upset against Green Bay at home in the UH in the playoffs. You go back to that team and you said, Okay, what made them so good? Obviously, dan Quinn's the defensive coordinator. You're scoring thirty a game, Mike McCarthy, Dak's planing out of his mind. CD, you're really good offensively. So how did they build that defense. They've got Deron Bland getting record setting pick sixes. They got Treyvon Diggs record setting interceptions ballhawk. They've got Micah Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence and oh soo Digie Zua, and they've got light bodies that rush the passer. They play a lot of man coverage, sticky coverage, and they're playing with a lead for so much of the game that you might get me here and there. Diggs gives up a long completion, Bland gets beat a long. You know, their run defense was always crappy, but it didn't matter because they're scoring a million points. That they built the defense with dan Quinn to defend the pass and defend the lead. So all of a sudden, at the end of the game, Micah Parsons stripped sack fumble games over, blanded digs pick six games over. That was what they bought into and that formula works. They paid Bland a million, bazillion dollars. They played Digs at bazillion dollars. Now you look over last year, they're injured, they're not playing right. They lose Micah for a part of the season, and then he comes back. Then they lose Dak and all of a sudden, this past defending man coverage pass rush that they had built to compliment this high scoring offense. The offense goes to the bottom of the league. They struggle, they can't score. They turn into a very ball control running back ric o'dowell who's now having a career year in Carolina. He becomes a thousand yard rusher in Dallas because they just have to lean into the run game to just stay remotely competitive. But as we said earlier, all of a sudden, that style now of low scoring blood bats doesn't match what we do well on defense, right, so everyone gets fired and they start all over. I don't think they've now from a personnel standpoint, DeMarcus Lawrence gone, Micah Parson's gone. Digs in Bland aren't picked six and guys five six times a year. They're not having an interception per game, they're not getting all the splash negatives that they really made a living on, even though now their offense is back to that. So it's really been like a two and a half three year journey of when they had both sides of the ball matched. Man, they were as good as anybody in the league. They lose the Green Bay and in the playoffs all help breaks loose. Last year's a dumpster fire of injuries. They fire Mike McCarthy, and now they're trying to kind of start back over. They haven't been able to use any of the draft picks they got for Micah, So those trades with the exception of of Kenny Clark.

01:43:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, Clark, you know you lost.

01:43:19
Speaker 9: You lost Micah. You haven't gotten the future picks yet. And I just don't think they have the defensive roster to be that good.

01:43:28
Speaker 2: Well said, that was honestly a great breakdown.

01:43:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the.

01:43:33
Speaker 9: Two and a half years is short. I'm a long winded guy. That's two and a half years of watching them. That's as quick as I can make it.

01:43:39
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dude.

01:43:41
Speaker 4: I mean, as far as seeing the entire field and understanding what your offense does the teams, here's that We're gonna have to build the defense. Here's the philosophy that goes with this defense.

01:43:48
Speaker 2: Takeaway's pass rush, this scheme that kind of goes with those guys. How it's kind of falling apart over the last couple of years.

01:43:54
Speaker 4: Guys have been injured when you know, it's like even Diggs was out for a little bit last year as well. No, those are those are great points. I do think it's a massive combination of a lot of it and it's not Unfortunately, it's not going to get better this year.

01:44:11
Speaker 1: No, it's not going to get better this year. And it really reminds you of a Peyton Manning's Colt Run Colts run team where you play on the turf, you have two edge rushers that can rush the passer. The team is built to play from the lead, and when you don't have those key pieces, you don't have the lead there for your team is in a precarious spot. So yeah, no, that was a fantastic breakdown. And it also goes to show how short sighted we can all be as the viewer of seeing like game by game basis or even just like this year sample size and taking it as like this is the reason why. A lot of times you have to pull back the curtain a little bit, see a couple of years back and be like, this is how we got here, how do we get back to there? And so, yeah, it was a fantastic breakdown. Greg we good.

01:44:52
Speaker 9: I appreciate it. My assumption would be, if you're Dallas, all these picks that you have coming up, you just double quadruple, triple, quinn tup whatever all then and you just go defense, defense, defense, defense. They've got all those first round picks on the offensive line, they got to figure out how they're going to resign George Pickens. I think that could be a tricky situation when that time comes, because obviously he's not yet on that big deal when they traded for him from Pittsburgh. But I think offensively, I think from a personnel standpoint, they're in really good shape. Ferguson, I think they like their backs. I think it's dump every resource in the draft. If you have a couple bucks left over in free agency, like it needs to be defense, defense, defense, and if you hit on those draft picks in the next over the next two years, you got a shot. The question is it just puts a ton of pressure. You got to hit on those picks.

01:45:49
Speaker 1: You get to hit those picks, and you got to keep Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens and Dak Prescott Young and it's like, who are those.

01:45:58
Speaker 2: No one beats? Father time.

01:46:00
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to let you go. Give Greg random pause. We have Mike Elko coming on next year.

01:46:04
Speaker 4: Greg, Greg next week, I would love to do a deep dive into the philosophy of how, like the Running Game twelve thirteen personnel, how it's making such a surge quarterback under center, because like a decade ago, when teams were like in twelve twelve personnel, they're kind of utilizing eleven looks. How teams you have to decide if you're gonna go base or hey, you know what we're gonna call this game Nickel philosophically on defense to where now it's like those big bodies and the way the game is changing. Kind of back in a circle. I would love to do a deep dive and break down.

01:46:40
Speaker 9: I would love nothing more than to do that with you. I'll come with some thoughts and some ideas. I love those conversations.

01:46:47
Speaker 5: Done.

01:46:47
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, you're the man, Greg, Thank you very much, man, Joco.

01:46:50
Speaker 9: Man, what's up?

01:46:51
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, are.

01:46:52
Speaker 9: You I'm leaving? I'm Greg Olsen by the.

01:46:55
Speaker 5: Way, Yeah, from the Jersey roots.

01:46:59
Speaker 9: I know, I know exactly him. Yeah, you recruited in my dad's school, didn't you. Absolutely Now where remind me where you were when you recruit I knew you we recruiting North Jersey because my dad's told me where were you when you were recruiting A.

01:47:11
Speaker 5: Bunch of schools that you won't remember? Fordham Hop of course when I was down at the University of Richmond, we were up there.

01:47:18
Speaker 9: Yeah, Wayne Hills, Wayne Hills, Yep. My dad tells me every time you move you guys on National TV, my dad reminds me that he said, hey, he's been a hell of a coach now for a long time. He used to sit in my office ten fifteen years ago. I was like, I know, Dad, you told me every Saturday, every Saturday, I'm gonna leave. Good luck, coach. Yeah, you guys have been awesome. Man, you're doing a great job. Thanks appreciate you.

01:47:42
Speaker 1: Greg.

01:47:43
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, thanks Greg, your brother.

01:47:47
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

01:47:48
Speaker 2: Good moment you.

01:47:49
Speaker 5: Get two Jersey guys on the show together.

01:47:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say, I kinda sat back here and just watch you guys talk for the next fifties week. It took all the time just listening to.

01:47:57
Speaker 2: You guys break Jersey.

01:47:58
Speaker 4: You can feel uh Greg's dad, mister Olson just be hey, that's a hell of a ball, coach.

01:48:03
Speaker 2: He's just sitting in my office.

01:48:04
Speaker 1: And it's like the first time, You're like, that's pretty damn cool, Coach. Oko, he's just sitting in your office. And then after like it's like week seven, it's the eighth time he said it. It's like, Dad, I know he's the man. I got it, Coach. Let's give a coach. I'll go a round of applause for being on the bus, taking time out of his day. Just got back from putting an ass beating on Baton Rouge Louisiana Lsu. We can say that, coach. I'm sure you would not say that.

01:48:26
Speaker 5: I'm sure gonna say I appreciate it coming from you guys, though it sounds good.

01:48:29
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed.

01:48:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hard fought game, guys, ended up pulling away in that second half. Your quarterback right now, let's talk about this cat, Marcel Reid. He's fourth in the Heisman running. I'm sure as any coach would be you're ignoring that type of noise. So I'm just gonna ask you about this court and be like, what is what is about him Reid that makes him so great right now?

01:48:51
Speaker 3: For you?

01:48:52
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think he's really taken the next step this year in terms of his ability to beat people both ways, and I think that was the big challenge that he had coming out of last year. He's a phenomenal athlete. I think you saw that Saturday night. What he can do when the play breaks down, what he can do improvising is at an elite level. I think what he's done is he's transitioned himself to where he can also beat you in the pocket throwing the football now, and I think his ability to do both really put stress on a defense. And I think that's been a huge part of the offensive success this year is we are we're multi dimensional. We have a lot of different ways that we can attack people.

01:49:31
Speaker 2: Coach, can you remind me who is number five on your team? Defensively? Number five?

01:49:38
Speaker 4: The dude that was barking at the entire offensive line was it number five? It might have been a different.

01:49:41
Speaker 5: Number, No, number nine, number now?

01:49:44
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah, you had me puzzled for a second. Yeah, that is my fault. That is my fault. I'll scroll And I saw a clip.

01:49:51
Speaker 4: I saw this dude barking at basically the entire offensive line at LSU.

01:49:54
Speaker 2: What type of juice do you feel like that brings to a squad?

01:49:58
Speaker 5: Uh?

01:49:59
Speaker 4: And again I Greg was on and I was kind of telling the boys, I'm kind of going at the seat of my pants right now. A friend of mine had a wedding over the weekend. Absolutely selfish decision on his part. I didn't get to watch a whole lot of ball. But when I'm watching that clip, like obviously you're trying to reel it in and everything else, but internally, and you know, when you're in the locker room and even watching this stuff after the game, what kind of juice does that bring to a team when you're putting an ass open on somebody.

01:50:24
Speaker 5: No, I think that's the line you want your team to walk. You know, you play in the SEC. You go into some of these environments at night, you can't be timidd you can't be just kind of oh, we're just gonna tell the line. Like you have to be on an edge. You got to be willing to play on an edge, and you got to be willing to do things sometimes to give yourself an edge and an opportunity. And so that's what we want to do. That's how we want to go about it. And obviously that was a really really big game for us, and the kids were fired up.

01:50:51
Speaker 1: One of the big news stories after this weekend after your game against LSU, as Brian Kelly was relieved of his duties as the head coach of the LSU Tigers. It's such an interesting situation that you're in because you're the last coach to play him, you're the last coach to beat him, but at one point in time he hired you as the DC for Notre Dame, and so you can be as long winned as you want in this situation. But what is your relationship like with Brian Kelly? That game? How it unfolded. I know that a lot of LSU Tigers fans were chanting, and I'm sure you guys have established some sort of relationship since you guys have parted ways, whether it's good or bet or and different, and I just kind of want to hear your thoughts about your relationship with him, and then how that game unfolded as they were chanting fire Kelly.

01:51:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously, I have a ton of respect for Brian. Brian's the guy that gave me my first opportunity to kind of get on the big stage at Notre Dame, and at that point, I was a defensive coordinator at Wake Forest and he was really the first guy to give me that chance, and so I have a ton of respect for him. We've got a great professional relationship, a lot of mutual respect for each other. You never want to see that for anybody. You certainly want to don't want to see that to a guy who has helped you in your career at some point and the guy that you respect. And so I think it's a lot of things. I think one, I appreciate him and appreciate everything he did for me and my family. But also it's probably a quick notice to where this profession is. I saw this the other day. I think three of the top fifteen teams in the preseason eight people have already fired their coach at week eight, and so it's crazy a week tweet business more now than it's ever been. And you gotta keep your head down, You got to keep.

01:52:29
Speaker 2: Grying Oh yeah. I was gonna say, you gotta just keep your head down, yeah, roll because.

01:52:33
Speaker 1: I mean bullets over your head and elchoes just out there front of the pack. Ain't no just crawling away being like I got it any moment.

01:52:41
Speaker 5: But still trying really hard to not catch any stray.

01:52:46
Speaker 1: It's got to be a terrifying position. You got your buddy to your left, in your right getting shot down. You're like, we I gotta keep this thing going here.

01:52:53
Speaker 4: You know the buyouts there, you know everybody posting about the biots that are happening. It's like, hey, college football, the teams want to fucking win, and nobody, nobody, nobody is safe. Talk about your relationship with Trev Alberts. Obviously, he's he's a friend of the show. I've had him on this podcast before. He was a nebrassa guy and a linebacker that I admired going through that university. What's your relationship been like with him, because he did a great job. Your guys' staff, everybody did a phenomenal job hosting us last year when we came out to the game. I believe it was against Notre Dame. Yeah, but just talk about that relationship with Mitch with coach Alberts, Trev Alberts and uh yeah, fluff up the boys.

01:53:32
Speaker 5: A great partnership, I think when you're the head football coach, but you would love to have as an ad who's a former All American and a first round draft pick who kind of understands football through the lens of a football player. I think that's a really, really good starting point. I think there's a lot of similarities in how he believes a program should run and how I believe a program should run. And then I think we both believe in what Texas A and M is capable of. And so it's been a really good partnership. I've really enjoyed getting to spend time with him and to know them, and again, as we try to build this place into, you know what everybody on the outside thinks it's capable of being. Uh, it's good to be able to do that with somebody who knows football the way Trev does. And so it's it's been really good.

01:54:14
Speaker 4: Culture wise and standard wise. What do you how do you feel like this mentality is shifted because I know, just externally watching it from Afar, watching A and M fans from Afar, you guys historically been known as like, you know, the three loss team that's gonna that eventually comes. I feel like everybody's kind of, you know, clutching their pearls every week. Now since you guys are undefeated at the top of the sec How do you feel like that mentality and culture has shifted now being in your second year as the head coach for A and M Yeah.

01:54:41
Speaker 5: I just think what we did was we tried to instill a little bit more of a blue collar work ethic into this place. And I think, you know, one of the challenges when you have a place that has a lot of really nice things is entitlement starts to creep in, and all of a sudden, you start expecting things to happen for you and you really don't go out and work to make them happen for you. And I think that's kind of been our mentality since day one, is is we want to make sure that in those times of the year when no one's paying attention to us, that we're out working people, that we're doing things the way they need to be done, so that, you know, when we get into the fourth quarter in Arkansas and things aren't going the way we want them to go. We can find a way. When we get into the fourth quarter at Notre Dame and we're down, we can find a way. And when we come out in the second half at LSU, we can run away with a game. Like all of that stuff gets formed with those things that you're doing throughout the year, and I just think we focused a lot more on that than we have about, you know, pounding our chest about you know, our facilities, or how nice this place is or those types of things. And I think maybe that's flipped a little bit how we see things and how we think about them.

01:55:46
Speaker 1: You're aight, no right now, You're standing at top of the sec keep.

01:55:49
Speaker 5: Saying that like you're trying to jinx it like I'm pitching a no hit.

01:55:52
Speaker 1: Yeah right.

01:55:54
Speaker 2: Enough, Yeah, you're right, you're right, get a hit.

01:55:57
Speaker 1: Let me try to rephrase it. You've lost zero time this year, so we don't jinx it, and so the head coach, the pitcher can continue to throw his no hitter. What are the messages taking place in your building right now? Because, like Will said, we've been to your campus, people say it's very much cult like when it comes to your fan base, I tend to agree with that, and I mean it as a compliment, like the Midnight Yells all that like it is. You watch it and if you're a hater of Texas A and M, you're like this, this stuff is a little bit crazy. But as a as a Michigan guy, like I would love it if my fan base got together at midnight in Michigan Stadium and like went over what kind of chance we're going to do? So obviously, like the expectations just grown and grown and grown and grown. Where pearls are maybe no longer being clutched from the outside, they're now like, hey, maybe we actually maybe we can do it like that. We had a hard time at LSU, but no, we don't have a hard time. Elsie Moore. How are you keeping those boys focused going to these last three games of the year?

01:56:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, First of all, we use the term passionate. That's what our fan base y. Yeah, when you talk about passionate fan bases, like they are at a lot of places around the country, they have high expectations, and expectations grow every time you win a football game. And that's just the nature of college football today. And I think the biggest thing that we talk about internally is one how much the noise can impact you. And that's a year round conversation to avoid the noise, for the good, for the bad, no matter what. You're going to be on a seesaw, you know. And so you go out and lose a game, and you're gonna be the worst team in the history of Dexas A and M. You go out and win a game, and you're going to be the best team. And that that's just how this stuff goes nowadays. And so a lot of it is that, a lot of it is just education on how to avoid the noise. And then I think we're in a fortunate situation because you know, we got this program to this spot or very close to it last year where we were five and zero in the SEC and we had just beaten LSU and things were trending in a really positive direction. And I think that was really the first time this program, in this last few year iteration of it, experienced that, you know, people talking positive about them, people talking about potential play like and we didn't handle it the right way last year and they know that, and so I think we have the opportunity to kind of point back to that and keep them grounded on a one game mentality or one one week mentality and finish this thing the way we want to so that we can get done what we want to get done.

01:58:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you can see the rat poison even as players like you can see the rat poison that can start to creep into times, especially if you are you guys right now and you're looking at Missoo who just lost. They're a two lost team. We got Miszoo South Carolina, Sanford in Texas who Texas has had so much conversation around negatively, you can very much see like, hey, boys, this is we don't let our we don't let our foot up the gas here, especially as a coach. Coach Uko, I want to just read you your career man Stonybrook, Penn Merchant, Marine fordam Richmond, Hostra Bowling, Green Wake Forest. Then you get your LIQ with Notre dame A and m out at Duke and then back at A and m man what when you reflect back on your career in your climb in this business, because you clearly took you were you were at the absolute bottom. You had to climb and earn every bit of where right now, crazy shot at Stony Broke.

01:59:16
Speaker 2: But in this business, you've done clearly an incredible job.

01:59:20
Speaker 4: What advantages do you feel like you had making this route, making your own way when you look back and reflect on a resume like this, Again, all due respect, all these teams are just named.

01:59:33
Speaker 2: Talking about.

01:59:39
Speaker 1: Just go crazy. All these teams suck, and now you're at a good team, coach, how do you feel.

01:59:45
Speaker 4: I don't even mean it like that, bro I don't even mean it like that, but it's just, you.

01:59:49
Speaker 5: Know, I get the question. This is this is what I would say. It was a unique path, for sure. I've said that a lot of times to a lot of different people. It's something we talk about in recruiting. I was never the guy who went and elevated himself as a GA or position coach. I became a defensive coordinator at Hofstra when I was twenty six years old, and I just climbed the ranks of football as a defensive coordinator. And that was just the path that I took. That was how it went. And I think what you learn from it is is one a humbleness and a humility that you know you're great coaches, great players. They come from a lot of different places right, And it's not necessarily who the most star studded names on social media are. It's the people who are capable and do the work to be really successful. And I think that's that forms from that. Also, it's probably an appreciation for the opportunities that I have because that first job, I'll tell you, you know, the first job I was at Stony Brook. My office was in a portable trailer right next to the bathroom, and so I can't say that when I was sitting there going to work every day slicing cutup tapes, that I envisioned this would be the ending point. So I think she keeps you humble, keeps you grounded, and just kind of makes you stick to the process that you've always gone through your whole life.

02:01:05
Speaker 2: Well, what were you getting paid as a j in Stony Brook?

02:01:08
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I think I was getting paid like sixty five hundred dollars. I'll tell you the best one. So the second year saw I'm a pngrad. So a lot of pengrads make a lot of money when they get out of college. I didn't. My second year, I went back to Penn and I kept having to bring recruits through this presentation where they were showing the average starting salary of a pngrad and I think I was making like seventeen thousand. I think the average grad was making like ninety. At that point, I'm thinking to myself, jeez, I'm not sure that I made the right decision with my life. But it's worked out. We kind of got to the point.

02:01:41
Speaker 1: That is a funny story about questioning your path. Has there ever been a real question for you being like maybe you have a tough Caesar or two and you're like, I don't know if this is the path I truly want to go down. Have you ever had one of those moments as a coach?

02:01:54
Speaker 5: No, I really haven't. I really have been fortunate. I've been fortunate that, you know, most of the time I've been of programs that we're ascending. You're never really been been up against the block where things were trending backwards or trending downhill. Knock on wood. I've been fortunate enough to never have been fired. And so you know, I've had a blessed career. If you can think about how how many pitfalls there really are in football, and so even though some of those names aren't the most prestigious names of schools that I've been at. Uh, you know, I have been fortunate to be part of a lot of really good seasons and a lot of really good situations.

02:02:28
Speaker 4: Hats off to you for being selfless to know I'm going to take these recruits through this presentation, and honestly, you're just You're taking strays left and right, like you're going to get slaughtered. Your ego is going to get slaughtered every time you're running them through this presentation.

02:02:41
Speaker 5: I kept asking the lady when I would leave, I'm like, does this have mine like in it? Like is this counting what I'm making or is this like a previous graduating class?

02:02:50
Speaker 1: Or that is awesome, coach. We appreciate the hell of you taking the time out of your day busy stales.

02:02:56
Speaker 2: I have I have one more question, Well.

02:02:58
Speaker 1: Yet one more question, and I'm gonna restart.

02:02:59
Speaker 4: You had this, Yeah, this comes from the wedding. Who's number seven? You had a famous quote last year. This is a real program. It's not fake. It's not a politician run It's not a politician running this program talking fast and bullshitting everybody. This is a real program for all the recruits out there. This is a real place and if you want to be really good at football, this is a really good place to be. Your name With all of g's job openings coming open, your name starts to get in those conversations because the belief on the outside is also Texas A and M. The brand, the logo, everything else. This at one point in time was a stepping stone to all of these other schools, these jobs that are now opening up with LSU, Florida, Penn State. For you sitting where you're at and the movement of nil money, you building this place to where everyone talks about on the outside what Texas A and M could be?

02:03:54
Speaker 2: What do you feel? How do you feel about that noise?

02:03:57
Speaker 4: Are these conversations you have with the players in your name comes up in these conversations. As far as a Texas A and M is a spot I want to be. This is the most focus I'm putting into as a coach of the Texas A and m Aggie's What are those conversations like when you're compartmentalizing everything being at A and M.

02:04:14
Speaker 5: Yeah. I had a really other famous quote that came out like a week and a half ago that was on social media about my thoughts on these other jobs and it being a waste of brain space. I think no different than we talk to our players. I think it's really important to focus on what's in front of you. We have a lot of confidence in what we're doing here at Texas A and m what this place can be, and I just don't think those conversations are things that are important at all during the season, and so internally we address the things that we need to. But like we tell the players to avoid the external noise, I think it's really important that coaches do the same, and that's how we try to go about it.

02:04:50
Speaker 2: Coach man you are.

02:04:52
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, I'd love to have an ice cool bud light with you one day, you saying strays, you having some laughs, like I can just tell you're a fucking guys guy, and when love to have a beer with you at some point when we.

02:05:01
Speaker 5: Visit now we'll get you guys back down to college station and uh maybe we'll make that happen.

02:05:06
Speaker 4: All right, all right, brother, coach, thank you very much, We thank you for thank you for taking the time.

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