All Things Golden and Paradise!

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to Bachelor Happier. I'm Serena and I'm Joe.

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Speaker 2: When we are back from our honeymoon and we are ready to go because Bachelor is in full steam.

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Speaker 1: Thursday nights, everyone, it is the night of the week. We have Golden Bachelor premiere. We had Bachelor and Paradise premiere, and we have so much to recap because it was a huge week in Bachelor Nation.

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Speaker 2: We have them both. Golden Bachelor was just we're going to talk about it, and you can't forget Paradise because that's where we found love. We're married because of Paradise exactly. So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: We're very excited. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I will say I had my doubts on Golden Bachelor, even though not really I didn't vocalize them. I was really I was really unsure.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I was quite vocal about them, at least in our day to day life. When Golden Bachelor first started getting cast, I was like, this is never going to see the life of day. And then once it got fully cast, I was like, hmm, okay, I don't know how this is gonna go, but I am eating my words.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I said, like after we interviewed Gary, I was like, Okay, this, I think it's gonna be great. And when we did like we did like chicks in the office or like we're excited because we were excited.

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Speaker 1: For and once Gary got cast, it was like, Okay, this is real and he's a star, and we're excited for him obviously.

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Speaker 2: But in my head, I was like, Ah, how's this, How's this gonna work? And I think I said during when we were watching and I was like, I know what I'm watching, but I don't know what I'm watching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was so trippy because it's the exact same format and it's the same template we've seen for years and years with this show, but there was just something so different about it in the best way.

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Speaker 2: It was so good. I actually can't believe how much I enjoyed it, because I don't really even watch reality TV and I'm watching this and I'm like, I this, this is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Joe is big smiling the entire time for an hour straight, just a big smile on his face. But how could you not. I mean, the women are so lovable, the storylines, it was so fun.

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Speaker 2: And it's so refreshing to watch people who truly are being themselves, Like not one woman that walked out of the limo gave two Fox about how how they came across the like this is who I am. I'm comfortable being me high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much confidence which really read through, and I feel like allowed us to connect with the women so much more. Like I feel like so many of the women I'm already like, oh my gosh, I love her, I love her, I'm rooting for that one and Gary like, and I feel like it's because they're just really putting it all out there of like this is who I am. It just makes it so much easier to connect with them.

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Speaker 2: Susan's six inch heel line yes, was maybe my favorite line on reality TV of all time.

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Speaker 1: It was her live but also her delivery, Like I was like, this is iconic. We'll obsessed with her and the purple feather dress and the hair.

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Speaker 2: Let's get let's get in. Let's get into the episode from the top. So Golden Bachelor up front, we see the Golden hearing aid, we hear Gary's story.

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Speaker 1: Wait, but can we talk about the edit for a second with the dead silence and then him putting on the hearing it and curing the music. I can we also talk about the music. I feel like they like uped their music budget for this show. They had so much good like the throw black hits. Yeah, like I loved it. It felt like I was an eighties problem for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and I think, yeah, I think ABC's got to own that music. And they're like, all right, well we'll whip it out for this show.

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Speaker 1: It was the right timing to whip it out. It just felt like the intro. I remember sitting there watching it and just being like this actually feels iconic right now. Yeah, like it felt like a big moment.

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Speaker 2: And then like like, you know, Gary's story lost his wife, it is it is very sad, and then we you know, we see him turn the page of like okay, but now I am ready, and then like the music starts.

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Speaker 1: It's like a Disney movie. You know, there's there's sadness and loss at the beginning, and then it's a story about love and hope.

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Speaker 2: This is Disney, so it feels Disney truly, truly Disney is shining through. Okay, So, so the Harryade his story First Woman out of I got to pull up the face sheet here, I can tell you who it is. First woman out of the limo's Jesse. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, Jesse Palmer is the first person in front of the Manchesse woman out of the limo. There's no woman named Jesse.

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Speaker 3: Jesse Palmer was the first person at the mansion. Yes, correct, No, The first woman out of the limo is Edith, which I feel like was a perfect fit.

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Speaker 1: A She's like stunningly beautiful. She also kind of exudes the like golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: I mean or her hair, Like, yeah, she is. She also looks like a like a princess or a queen in like a in a Disney moment.

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Speaker 1: Literally, she's got like silver hair, She's got this amazing gold dress on her and Gary like look good together. And I just loved her intro, like it was the perfect way to start off the night with like the two gold confetti poppers. Yes, I just thought it was really cute and a perfect first And.

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Speaker 2: But I will say I actually think the second woman out of the limo, they had a connection and I think she's going to go somewhere. Who was that was that she came out of a limo? She screamed Roberta Ellen. Yes, yes, I think she's going to be there for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. They had a genuine connection. Her dress was so good on her, like that color with her beautiful blonde hair, like perfect pairing. She looked so cute. Yeah, and they had a connection.

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Speaker 2: And she has like she had a lot of spunk andse she was. She was extremely confident. I just she felt when she was talking. I was like, okay, this this woman is very comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I thought she was great. I'm trying to think, let's go through some of our other standout interests.

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Speaker 2: Well, another one at the beginning. We have Sondra who as the show went on, I started liking her more and I think she's going to be there for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Me too. She said, really good interview moment, but.

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Speaker 2: The intro was weird, the whole swearing like I'm just going to walk up and we're a minute.

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Speaker 1: It took me a minute to realize what was happening. And then I was like, oh, they're just like swear chanting, which I think is fine to me. If she that's how she releases her energy, it's a good way of showing it off.

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Speaker 2: Well, it all made more sense as the episode went on, and then we saw her and Gary talk one on one and she like kind of like.

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Speaker 1: Laughed about it and made a good joke about it.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, like that that that works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bit of an awkward moment at the intro, but then I think she did a good job of like making light of it and making him more comfortable with it later when they had their chat.

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Speaker 2: All right, should we talk about Leslie?

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have. Leslie is so hot. She could literally be on the regular Bachelor, Like she could go on Joey season.

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Speaker 2: She looks insane, Well, how would she date a prince?

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Speaker 1: Also just drops.

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Speaker 2: Like I used to date Prais and he.

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Speaker 1: Wrote sexy Dancer about her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like so she is just datum like he wrote a song about her. And then I went on her instagram to like look and see and she has Joe's already.

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Speaker 1: Joe's already on other women's instagrams. Great.

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Speaker 2: As we were watching the show, I want you know, I got to do my research and she has like an old photo in black and white of like her in like a dancer's outfit. It's like a side photo and yeah, you could tell like, yeah, she she probably did.

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Speaker 1: Stop checking out the contestants check you're very m I.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to see if there was a photo herd print.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree, she's in amazing shape. She also has a great personality, super bubbly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I loved her little black mini dress showed off the bod. She definitely stand out, stood out. I feel like I had something else to say about Leslie.

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Speaker 2: But me and I could be wrong about this. I'm sure I am, But I don't know if Gary went into it. I think I think he went into this thing looking for a partner right totally, But I don't think his love, yes and love, but I don't think his head went to where like, oh, like I'm gonna be like sexually attracted to a lot of these women.

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Speaker 1: You don't think he thought about that.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't, because even when we were talking to him, like when we interviewed him, he was more like, I'm it's about like family and like he never mentioned anything really about like looking for.

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Speaker 1: A HATI yeah, or like.

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Speaker 2: To find at lust again, because maybe he doesn't think he's that's there.

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Speaker 1: You're right, he never really talked about like lust sexual attraction like any of that and maybe it's at the back of his mind, but he's never like.

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Speaker 2: Openly talked about it. Yeah, and then when he started seeing some of these women, then.

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Speaker 1: Leslie walked out.

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Speaker 2: He was like whoa and then like his when he started his like belly laughed when he's really getting here, like.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, Gary settled down, Gary's getting ready. A few other intros we had April, he did the eggs in the basket. She was bocking like a chicken at him. I feel like she has one of like the most like funny, quirky personalities in the house and is also super pretty.

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Speaker 2: Joan Jo looks great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jon's a supermodel, like I've been saying, Jones a supermodel.

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Speaker 2: Nancy Nancy was one of my top picks. Who Nancy looks Nancy Nancy's a Nancy Myers movie.

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Speaker 1: She looks like she coul literally looks like she could be you know the scene and it's complicated with Merril Strap and all her friends at the dinner table. She could literally be in that scene.

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Speaker 2: Yes, or I was going to say, she reminds me of Parent Trap.

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Speaker 1: She reminds you of the mom in the Parent Trap A little bit yeah, maybe she was one of my best dressed. She looked so good. Oh and then we had Teresa's birthday suit intro where you thought she was gonna flash, Gary, Yes, I actually thought for a second she was gonna flash. I fully thought she was gonna mean it.

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Speaker 2: It was like, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was cute. It was like a fun, little, fun, little memorable intro. Your favorite was Susan.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, don't forget Susan. That what a line. She delivered it so well, so well.

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Speaker 1: So good, Like it was so much confidence because I feel like that was a line that if she like fumbled it or got awkward or embarrassed about saying.

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Speaker 2: The six inch heel, it would have just fell flat.

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Speaker 1: It would have fell flat. But the way she delivered it was so hilarerious.

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Speaker 2: It was perfect. It was so funny.

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Speaker 1: Joe was actually cracking up.

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Speaker 2: Was like, I love her. And then she she ended up being the last woman to get a rose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were stressing out, which I was like.

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Speaker 2: Oh my fucking god, Gary, give her a rose, Like, keep her on, she's awesome.

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Speaker 1: And there was actually there was two women that kissed him at the intro April and Teresa I think were the two that I remember at least that like kissed him on the mouth. It was just like a cute little pack. But I feel like on Bachelor Boucherette that would be so scandalous, whereas I feel like it was like not a big thing on Golden Bachelor. Maybe that's just a generation thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're all put in. And also we can't forget and she is our guests, so make sure you stay tuned. Later this week, we are going to have Faith on first Impressure Rows pulls up in a motorcycle and Gary.

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Speaker 1: Is in love author Gary's I literally wrote my notes I love Faith Dash SODA's Gary.

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Speaker 2: Gary loves Faith like he When she was.

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Speaker 1: Singing her song so Yes, she.

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Speaker 2: Was singing to Gary on their one on one conversation and he the man was like totally like like I wanted to actually jump in there and be like Gary, play it cool like you're you are the Bachelor and like taking an easy It was like he just gave up. That's it, Like I this is who I love it.

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Speaker 1: It really melted for that woman.

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Speaker 2: It was insane. It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So now we've moved on from the entrances, a lot of good entrances. Everyone looked so good. I'm like literally blown away by these women. I cannot believe that they let Gary do his intro toast on The Bachelor with a glass of orange juice.

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Speaker 2: But it was probably it was probably a orange juice in fire.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. It was literally a short glass like something you would see an old fashioned with orange juice in it.

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Speaker 2: I at least I love that they did that because it.

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Speaker 1: Was like, dude, just hold the champagne.

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Speaker 2: No, no, because this is him being him, this is this is what he likes to drink. I want to orange orange juice and vodka, and that's what he's drinking. And I like that. But I think that was the smart move.

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Speaker 1: I respect it too. I was just absolutely shocked. I've just never seen anyone do any sort of toast on this show with anything that didn't look like a very strong cocktail.

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Speaker 2: Also, we can't forget about Jimmy Kimmel's.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, did she come. She came out of the limo too.

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Speaker 2: She came out a little basically just like talking shit about herself. She's like, ah, I'm here, look at all you women. You look great, but it was funny.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I wonder if if Jimmy Kimmel will talk about it on his show about.

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Speaker 2: How I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, So now let's talk about any any one on ones that really stood out besides Faith, I mean Faith, that one really really stood out definitely.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was pretty obvious that she was going to get the first impression Rows, just because I really saw sparks fly between them, and she's just like a very confident, well spoken, beautiful woman, and they just really seemed to connect, like when they had a conversation. But I think there was definitely a few other ones. Obviously Leslie. We liked her. They seemed to have like a fun little dancing moment. Teresa and Gary had like a cute kiss moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was she was She was sitting there like I didn't get any time with Gary, and then when she got her time, she really put it put.

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Speaker 1: It to work, like, oh yeah, it was her birthday. Yeah, so I thought it was.

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Speaker 2: I thought she was going home.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know, to be honest, her intro before that conversation. Off of her intro, I was like, I'm not sure where her story is gonna go. But then when they talked, they just again really seemed to connect. And then Gary did the thing where he was like, if I get this cupcake all over my face, will you clean it up for me? I was like, oh my god, Gary, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So cute.

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Speaker 1: He like totally baited her to make out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, It's it's it's it's so it's just like watching it. It is so crazy because we've watched so many seasons and it's just yeah, it's just like it's the same thing. It's the same, but it's it's just it's just different. It's it's refreshing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, it is, it is.

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Speaker 2: It really is. Who. I like Marina.

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Speaker 1: I like Marina too. She's very pretty. She also seems very confident.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like Marina. I think I think Ellen's a strong front runner.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, before we get into talking about the roast ceremony, should we pick our top four predictions?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean you already you already have one? Are you already have someone gone?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, forget about that, let's read let's resec that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if no, no, no, no, no, No, let's do okay, top four or top up, top three, Let's do top three, Let's do top three.

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Speaker 1: Do I have to okay? Yeah, top three.

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Speaker 2: So for those just because you know, just because your my wife, I'm gonna give you another opportunity at this.

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Speaker 1: Here, no get out of here. So for those who don't know, when the cast got released, Joe and I each picked someone just off of the headshots. I picked Anna, who sadly went home night one by Anna, We're sad, so you go. And then Joe picked who did you pick?

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Speaker 2: I picked Nancy?

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Speaker 1: You picked Nancy, so you can pick three more and then you'll have a top.

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Speaker 2: Four with Let's just let's just both do top three, top three, top three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to go first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say Faith. Okay, I'm gonna say Ellen, and then I'm really between Leslie and Nancy, and I'm gonna say Nancy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, damn you're like right where I am. I feel like I was gonna pick a lot of the same people. I'm gonna go Leslie, I'm gonna go see. I want to pick Ellen in Faith too, but I'm gonna mix it up to make an interest. I'm gonna go Less, I'm gonna go Teresa interesting, and I'm gonna go hmmm, I'm gonna go Faith too. Okay, I'm gonna go Faith, Teresa and Leslie.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well it was a great, a great first episode. I enjoyed all of it. I had a smile on my face.

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Speaker 1: Only I did not enjoy was the Rose ceremony because honestly felt really bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I felt really bad too, and so did he.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he had a hard time.

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Speaker 2: He started crying a little bit. That was rough. It is actually when seeing these women who all were just so wonderful, and you know, they step out and go on this show, which is is scary scary, seeing seeing them go home was rough. That Actually, yeah, I didn't like that either.

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Speaker 1: No, it was so hard. It's only gonna get harder. And I think Gary, considering he had a really hard time with a night one, he's gonna have a really hard time with it this season. Well, we saw in the super tease that he's like having a super tough time breaking up with people.

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Speaker 2: And Gary falls in love definitely.

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Speaker 1: I bet you do you think Gary falls in love with multiple people.

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Speaker 2: One hundred, one hundred percent times one thousand.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he falls in love with more than two people?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You think he falls in love with three people.

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Speaker 2: I'd say Gary falls in love with three to four people. Who, well, he's in love with one already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fa like, so he is.

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Speaker 2: Falling a love with multiple women before we jump to Paradise. Do we think they're going to do a Golden Bachelorette?

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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And out of these women right now, just shooting your shot, who do you think? Who do you think it's going to be?

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Speaker 1: Oh, let me go back and look at my little my thing. It's so hard to tell right now. I would go, I would go. If they're not with Gary Ellen or Leslie.

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Speaker 2: Ellen or Leslie, I would say, I would say, let me see, let me see, let me see.

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Speaker 1: But you know who I would love to see is Susan or April.

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Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. They do need to pick a lead that is that is a little wild, and I think April, April or Susan could definitely definitely be that lead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but Leslie used to date Prince Like girls definitely got ye.

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Speaker 2: There's there's a bunch, but great first episode. Really enjoyed it. I can't wait to see what happens the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited to see the dates that they go on, to get to know more of the women, to continue to get to know the ones that we already are excited about. It's just it, really, I literally am on the edge of my seat. Like when we finished that episode, I was like, I can't wait to watch this this season.

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Speaker 2: Short or two which I enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: I liked that too. I thought one hour was great.

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Speaker 2: I really want to know if he had vodka in that orange juice. Now he definitely did.

00:20:20
Speaker 1: Next time we interviewed him. That's the first question I'm asking is what were you toasting with?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or champagne and orange juice. I feel like they would have put it in and they yeah, definitely, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that that sums it up right. Anything else we left out? The whole dance party was a lot of fun. They were all getting it on. I think, yeah, I think that's pretty I think we covered it all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we did. I think we covered as much as we can for the first episode, and there's lots of good stuff to come.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, let's jump into Bachelor and Paradise, the show that's following Golden Bachelor, and that was a tough first episode to follow because it was really really good. Okay, so we're back. Bachelor in Paradise is back. Jesse is their first person on the beach.

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Speaker 1: Rachel, Sorry, I just thought you were meant to do it again. When you're like, first person on the beach is just.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no. Rachel is first. She's back. She was the Bachelorette, she is now single, and she's ready to date in Paradise. How do you feel about Rachel coming back?

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Speaker 1: I feel good. I think after seeing how well it worked out for bat guy, I mean, her and Thomas just had a baby. I think that she set a great example for future bachelorettes and potentially bachelor's coming down to Paradise and finding love. I can imagine that it's probably a bit of a shock to the system for Rachel coming down and having gone from being the Bachelorette to now in Paradise and some of these guys were on her season, and it's just a little hectic. Actually, wait, are any of the guys down there yet? From her season.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so even is when he comes down at the end, but that leads into the next episode.

00:22:07
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to see her down there, and I would love to see her find someone on the beach. I think that would be a great end to her story.

00:22:13
Speaker 2: Everybody else are all the newer seasons. I would say Eliza coming back was surprising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still surprised by that, And I know the cast has been out for like a month, and I'm still surprised by that for some reason. So I'm really intrigued to see where it goes. But I would imagine, and I'm excited to eventually talk to her on the podcast this season. I would imagine that she's just still hopeful that this can work for her and she can find someone.

00:22:38
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And then we have Blake Moins's back, which we know the process does work for him.

00:22:44
Speaker 1: Just we know it works almost perfectly for him.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how he does so down on the beach, I think the first it seems to be Will seems to be the guy that all the girls want to talk to you right now?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And for those of you that don't remember, Will was on Michelle's season, and we had him on the podcast earlier. If you want to take a listen to that. He is definitely a hot commody, and I will tell you why he is a hot commodity. One of the reasons, besides the fact that he's a good looking guy. I feel like it was similar for you're a bad example, but because you freaked out the first day. But Will doesn't know any of these guys, and I feel like the guys. The girls do it too, but the girls cluster up, they hang out with their girlfriends, but they want to be pursued by the guys, and the guys cluster up and they hang out with their guy friends, and it ends up being this like Grade seven dance situation where like the guys are hanging out and the girls are hanging out.

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Speaker 2: They use each other as a clutch.

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Speaker 1: They use each other as as a crutch. Yeah, as a crutch. But Will doesn't know anyone, so he's like, all right, the guys are already bros. I'm gonna go start chatting with the girls. And that is how he's gotten himself into this love triangle with Kylie and Olivia.

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Speaker 2: That was my first Bachelor in Paradise because I went whole night one and I didn't have any relationship with the guys down there. So when I went down there, I was kind of the same thing. I'm kind of I'm kind of solo, and I feel like Blake also has that, and and Braiden has that a little bit too, because Braiden is now like, I'm not even gonna talk yeah or hang out with the guys. He went straight for the women and are ready you have Aaron b is like talking shit about how Braden's going about it, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just like, I don't know if I agreed with Aaron in this situation, because she was like Braiden came right down, didn't even say hi to as Win and write and talk to the girls and like, okay, straight you're gonna come up and said hi. But you guys aren't friends, you don't get along, you're not buddies, and the point is to find a relationship. So him coming down and talking right to the girls, like, I wouldn't categorize that as disrespectful to the guys, but I do understand Aaron being like, let's just bear the hatchet and like be pleasant sake.

00:24:53
Speaker 2: Well all, then he then he could go up and say that. But the truth is it's like you live your life, Braiden lives his life. You are really only there to find someone to potentially date or get engaged to. So work on that. But yes, I agree that is why Will right now has the upper hand for sure. Yes, and he's using it. So we see like the main convo and if you watched you heard it the entire episode, but the sucking toes, Yeah, he like, uh, are you okay? Yeah, but I'm drawing a blank on her name, oh Olivia Olivia. Yeah, So basically Olivia asked Will, like, would you suck my toes? And he was like maybe, and they joked about it and that was a running joke. But then they did make.

00:25:44
Speaker 1: Out Olivia must have just made that comment like offhand, as like a flirty joke, Like little did this woman know that she was creating a storyline that was gonna last an hour for us, aka like twenty four hours for them.

00:25:58
Speaker 2: Yep. And then another another person in this mix who is also one of the people that are highlighted a lot in this episode is Kylie, which we will have Kylie on the podcast this week. So Kylie's whole thing is she's waiting for avon.

00:26:16
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like her whole intro package, her whole like first hour on the beach. It's like, this girl is here for Avan. He's been liking her picks, he's sent her a fire emoji, like he's putting at the feelers, like hey, I'm interested in you, and like every girl knows it, because every time someone comes down, they're like, oh, Kylie, it's not even yet, like this is the thing, yep, yep, but no.

00:26:40
Speaker 2: No Avan. So Kylie likes Will as well. So she ends up later in the evening getting a date card. Asking Will, Will says, yes, Olivia is now upset that they didn't bring it to her attention or pull her to the side and say anything. How do you feel about that? Because it is day one, it is very early. They had one kiss that was that it was probably too early to even do that. It seems like that was forced, and now she's upset. Do you think she should be upset?

00:27:16
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I can sit here and say like, she shouldn't be upset. Obviously she liked him. They had a moment he kissed her, which I when he did it, I was like Ooh, I don't think he should have done that. I think that was a little bit quick on his part. But whatever, they kissed, So yeah, I would be upset if I was in her position too, would I have been as upset? No, do I think that he owed her a conversation.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: Not really, that's what That's how I should have phrased him, because it does make it like I would be upset to if ye, then they go on a date right away, it makes sense that you're upset.

00:27:50
Speaker 1: And also, like she didn't get a one on one on Zach's season, she didn't really have a connection with him. She comes down this guy who everyone's kind of interested in her, have a really fun, playful conversation. They end up making out. She's probably excited and hopeful that like this is going to go somewhere, And immediately he goes on the state with Kylie, which like if he asked Kylie on the day, I think if I'm I'm way more upset. Kylie asked him, he said yes, they had also had a conversation like it's paradise, You've only been there for a few hours. I don't think he owes anyone anything at this point.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: I think he could have pulled her to the side.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: I could have.

00:28:24
Speaker 2: I think he could have. I don't think she had to. I don't think Kylie had to check out to Olivia.

00:28:30
Speaker 1: No. The thing is is we have no idea what their friendship is because they were both on the same season. Like, if that was like Abigail, like, I probably would have pulled Abigail aside. But if it was someone that like I didn't know that well and I wasn't that close with, I probably wouldn't have.

00:28:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think there were friends before.

00:28:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're that close either. So no, like, let's let's play this out. If it was me, I'm I'm I'm trying to think how I want to say this. If I am in Kylie's position. Okay, you and I like kiss on the first day and then I ask someone else on a date. What do you do then? If you're in Olivia's position, well, A.

00:29:12
Speaker 2: I don't act upset at all.

00:29:14
Speaker 1: Just bury your feelings, just hide them.

00:29:17
Speaker 2: I instantly bury my feelings and I and I probably go talk to somebody else immediately, yeah, and then just kind of move on. But also, you don't have to like it's not like that relationships. See, like I feel like Olivia got so worked up over it that now that relationship's totally dead, which I don't think it had to be.

00:29:42
Speaker 1: See, if I'm Olivia, I agree with you, I wouldn't bury my feelings. That feels really unhealthy. But I would probably be like this side my whole life, I probably be like, this sucks. I liked him, Like, I'm a bit embarrassed right now. Whatever he's going on that date, it might go terribly. So I'm going to go talk to someone else, see if there's anyone else here I have a connection with, and then find out when they get back if he's into her, he's going to pursue her. There's anything still there with us, And I'm definitely sitting there being like, if even comes down, Kylie is likely going to pursue that. So I'm not trying to shut the door here on Will yet.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: But not according to Kylie, because Kylie said even if Justin Bieber walked down, she would stay with Will, which I didn't believe.

00:30:27
Speaker 1: I didn't believe that for a second. Kylie, get out of here with that, Because.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: If Kylie is willing to leave for Avon from The Bachelorette rachel season. She will definitely leave for Justin Bieber, That's not even questionable. But yeah, so will Kylie. They have a nice little date, but we all know we type Will falling in the Yes, I was going to get to will Will falls in the pool awkward. He was all upset about it. I mean I think he could have had a little more fun with that, because, you know whatever.

00:31:02
Speaker 1: I honestly think he like scared himself. Yeah, you know, when like the floor falls up from nd you like that feeling. Like I think he freaked himself out.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: A little bit. He was really embarrassed.

00:31:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's drenched on a first day with this girl. I mean she didn't see it, and she was super nice about it and handled it really well. But I mean, yeah, he could have laughed it off a little bit more, but I think he was really embarrassed.

00:31:22
Speaker 2: So and then do we have any other we have? We have like little connections. We see Cat and Braiden. Looks like that could be something.

00:31:32
Speaker 1: You want me to list off the relationships that we got going. Yeah, yeah, all right, so we got Cat and Braiden, who I actually like that. I think that's fun. She seems like she's a little like high maintenance in terms of the bugs and the sand and the water and the heat, which, like, I don't really blame her. It's kind of hecked it down there, and he's good at just kind of being like it's okay, it's okay. So they're cute. We've got Rachel and hot Chahn. We've got Blake and Jess who, honestly, we barely saw that situation and we've really saw any of these people. They all kind of came out of nowhere at the end. For me. Aaron S and Sam, which kind of makes sense to me despite that that I don't really know either of them that well.

00:32:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Aaron they kind of look they they look like they're an equal match.

00:32:17
Speaker 1: Yes, they look really good together. They look good together. And then Aaron B and Mercedes. Wait, yeah, why do I have Aaron B? And Mercedes?

00:32:27
Speaker 2: Is there Mercedes on the show?

00:32:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Mercedes. We interviewed her.

00:32:31
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes, Mercedes Mercedes. Who is Mercedes talking to?

00:32:37
Speaker 1: Hmmm, maybe no one yet. So a couple of the floaters. We got our Greer Brooklyn Cat, Yeah, Peter.

00:32:48
Speaker 2: Olivia, Hot Sean and Rachel.

00:32:50
Speaker 1: Right hot, Sean and Rachel. I like that.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: That's not going anywhere.

00:32:54
Speaker 1: No, of course not, but I like it for now.

00:32:56
Speaker 2: I wanted to. I wanted to. And then we got the pilot Pete pilot P, which we can't have another pilot PEM confusing.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: When I heard someone go, oh, pilot piece here, I was like, what did I seriously miss something? And then I was like, oh, it's not actually pilot P.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: You can't do that. There is only one pilot Pete, and that's Peter Webber.

00:33:15
Speaker 1: But this pilot p that's on this season him if anything, just call him pe. I can't do pilot P. I literally immediately think Peter Webber. This Pete was very open to Zakiba's does.

00:33:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, all, I don't. There's definitely a story with him because we saw at the after after the Rose or whatever show that was Charity All. We saw the drama with him. There's definitely more to his story, so I'm curious to see what happens. Yes, he definitely rubbed some guys the wrong way because we know we know that Aaron Us does not like him, yes, and he's been vocal about it. So something obviously happens with those guys. And yeah, I think that sums it up. I mean we could talk a little more about Will falling in the water. Yeah, and we see we do see clips. We see see the trailer for the rest of the season, and we see Will crying, which we know, Oh, let's get to the end. Even comes down, yes, which predictable. No, he's coming down, we know he is there, most likely to talk to Kylie.

00:34:31
Speaker 1: Imagine he comes down and like doesn't talk to Kylie all that he's so crazy.

00:34:35
Speaker 2: Well, it also looks like he may talk to Olivia.

00:34:38
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. He's gonna come down, He's gonna pull a bunch of girls, and then he's probably gonna ask Kylie on a date and she's probably gonna go, which is gonna cause Will and Olivia some emotions.

00:34:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like Will's then gonna go back to Olivia. Olivia. It's gonna be it's gonna be similar to that Romeo situation. You remember, remember Romeo from last season and around a bunch Yes, and then yeah, I feel like that's kind of where where this is going.

00:35:08
Speaker 1: And then we can't forget that when Aven comes down that's the first guy from Rachel's season that will be on the beach, and he went far. I mean he was what her her second runner up?

00:35:21
Speaker 2: He was up there and then remember they brought him back at day after the road show when Tina was sitting there.

00:35:26
Speaker 1: Yes, if I had the guess, well, do you think they're on good terms?

00:35:31
Speaker 2: I would say they definitely are on some kind of terms, like they've definitely but I'm saying like they have it's they definitely have spoken after Yes, definitely, and clearly nothing has come out of it. So I would assume that they're good. I would also assume that Evan will pull Rachel first.

00:35:51
Speaker 1: I would hope that he pulls her at least to just have a conversation of like, hey, I'm here, you're here situation. I think it would be awkward if you like pulled a bunch of girls and then like left on a date and like didn't talk to her. I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking. Do you think that would be awkward? I feel like you're not even gonna acknowledge her.

00:36:09
Speaker 2: Like only because if he was like number seven or eight, I would say, no, don't pull her, because then it's kin weird, but since he was hurt one of her top top guys, maybe yeah, he should probably pull her. Yeah, I would think he does.

00:36:26
Speaker 1: Well, We're gonna have to wait and see. I'm hoping that next episode we see more of the other couples because it seems like a lot of relationships are forming and as much as the Olivia Kylie will Love triangle is quite entertaining, I want to see where the other relationships are going as well.

00:36:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, so we that's pretty much a recap on both episodes, so make sure to stay tuned because on Monday we are dropping an episode with Kylie and on Tuesday we are dropping an episode with Faith. So you don't want to miss it. Check it out here. That's your happy hour.

00:36:59
Speaker 1: Bye.