180 | The Power of You: Why Your Personality Matters in Child-Centered Play Therapy
Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I continue our summer school series by diving into the eighth and final principle from Gary Landreth's "Innovations in Play Therapy." This principle focuses on establishing therapeutic limits that help children accept personal and appropriate relationship responsibility.
I explore the importance of setting limits in child-centered play therapy, emphasizing how these limits provide security and safety within the therapeutic relationship. I discuss the balance between granting autonomy and setting necessary boundaries, and how this approach helps children develop self-discipline and self-control.
Throughout the episode, I highlight the significance of maintaining neutrality when setting limits, the importance of being a helpful authority figure, and the critical role of the therapist's personality characteristics and interpersonal skills in building a therapeutic relationship. I conclude by reminding listeners that it's not just about techniques or materials, but about who you are as a therapist that truly makes a difference in the healing process.
Episode Reference: Landreth, G. L. (Ed.). (2001). Innovations in play therapy: Issues, process, and special populations. Brunner-Routledge.
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Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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0 00:00:00,409 --> 00:00:04,300 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks. 1 00:00:04,309 --> 00:00:08,119 Your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:08,420 --> 00:00:10,590 Hi, I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,689 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get 4 00:00:12,699 --> 00:00:15,119 a master class in child-centered Play therapy 5 00:00:15,199 --> 00:00:17,379 and practical support and application for your 6 00:00:17,389 --> 00:00:19,270 work with children and their families. 7 00:00:19,579 --> 00:00:22,790 In today's episode, we are continuing our summer school series 8 00:00:23,459 --> 00:00:26,600 and finishing the Eighth Principle 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,600 from "Innovations in Play Therapy: Issues, 10 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:32,490 Process and Special Populations" edited by Gary Landreth. 11 00:00:33,169 --> 00:00:35,009 And in this section, 12 00:00:35,470 --> 00:00:39,500 Landreth has been going through the personality 13 00:00:39,509 --> 00:00:42,549 characteristics that make effective child-centered play therapists 14 00:00:42,990 --> 00:00:45,189 and they essentially have been 15 00:00:45,389 --> 00:00:46,860 the modifications 16 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:50,189 and revisions of the eight principles 17 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:51,529 that Landreth took 18 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:52,479 from 19 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:52,970 Axline. 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,209 So we're going to hit the last one today and then 21 00:00:57,220 --> 00:01:01,150 we're going to move into some other books and other sections 22 00:01:01,439 --> 00:01:04,680 from some seminal works. So Eighth principle is 23 00:01:04,870 --> 00:01:08,669 the therapist establishes only those therapeutic limits 24 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:11,480 that help the child accept personal 25 00:01:11,589 --> 00:01:14,319 and appropriate relationship responsibility. 26 00:01:15,389 --> 00:01:19,139 And I love that I have never heard that phrase before. 27 00:01:19,610 --> 00:01:21,930 We talk a lot about setting therapeutic limits. 28 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:24,949 We talk a lot about the benefits, a lot about the outcomes. 29 00:01:25,349 --> 00:01:30,169 A lot about how there is personal ownership and personal responsibility 30 00:01:30,180 --> 00:01:33,769 that is naturally tied to the use of therapeutic limits. 31 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:38,319 But the phrase appropriate relationship, responsibility, 32 00:01:39,199 --> 00:01:43,519 I think is so rich and I've never conceived of that phrase before. So 33 00:01:43,660 --> 00:01:46,440 this is why we're going through these older works 34 00:01:46,449 --> 00:01:49,180 because there's little nuggets of gold throughout here. 35 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:50,629 So we're gonna read some 36 00:01:50,750 --> 00:01:53,540 sections from this eighth Principle 37 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:56,629 and I'm reading on 28 and 29 in the book, by the way. 38 00:01:56,949 --> 00:01:57,940 Ok. So 39 00:01:58,559 --> 00:02:00,660 it starts out with a quote from Campbell. 40 00:02:01,349 --> 00:02:06,089 And if you are not familiar with the 1993 Campbell work, 41 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:09,380 that was actually the interview with Violet Oaklander. 42 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:12,179 So if you have not checked that out, 43 00:02:12,190 --> 00:02:15,330 that's actually another very interesting seminal work that 44 00:02:15,339 --> 00:02:17,610 you would probably find some benefit from. 45 00:02:18,490 --> 00:02:22,020 But the quote is children need to know deep down inside 46 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:23,979 that the people who love them 47 00:02:25,149 --> 00:02:27,960 will keep them safe even when they play. 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,559 So getting back to the power of the relationship and the environment 49 00:02:34,850 --> 00:02:36,220 in the child-centered model, 50 00:02:36,740 --> 00:02:39,979 children need to know deep down that people who love 51 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:42,300 them will keep them safe even when they play. 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,899 So that came straight from the Campbell 53 00:02:46,490 --> 00:02:47,339 interview. 54 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:48,460 So now continuing, 55 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:53,380 no child can feel safe if the child's aggressions overpower a parental figure. 56 00:02:54,750 --> 00:02:56,389 Let me say that again because 57 00:02:56,619 --> 00:02:59,929 not only do we need to understand this, but we need to help parents understand this. 58 00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:02,800 No child can feel safe 59 00:03:03,089 --> 00:03:04,929 if the child's aggressions 60 00:03:05,899 --> 00:03:07,679 overpower a parental figure, 61 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:13,199 the wise play therapist understands that without limits, there can be no therapy, 62 00:03:13,869 --> 00:03:18,679 just like in the CPRT manual, it says without limits, there are no security 63 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:22,580 and with no security, there is no safety within the relationship. 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,240 So, very similar principles. 65 00:03:25,410 --> 00:03:28,020 But the wise play therapist understands that without limits, 66 00:03:28,029 --> 00:03:29,399 there can be no therapy. 67 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:32,160 The therapist knows that appropriate limits must 68 00:03:32,169 --> 00:03:34,279 be set because they provide the child 69 00:03:34,389 --> 00:03:38,979 with the security necessary for satisfactory therapy to take place. 70 00:03:40,330 --> 00:03:42,220 All right. So essentially what we're doing 71 00:03:42,699 --> 00:03:43,509 is 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,389 giving as much freedom and and autonomy 73 00:03:47,070 --> 00:03:48,330 and independence 74 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:49,779 as we can grant 75 00:03:50,179 --> 00:03:52,699 yet, when limits are needed, 76 00:03:52,990 --> 00:03:56,309 we set them because they are required for 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,029 the security necessary for therapy to take place. 78 00:04:00,009 --> 00:04:03,190 All right. So obviously, we only set a few limits 79 00:04:03,389 --> 00:04:07,970 and we provide a clear definition of acceptable and unacceptable behavior. 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,690 That's why we provide the alternatives. 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,380 So we set the neutral limit and then we provide alternatives. Why? 82 00:04:14,389 --> 00:04:15,839 Because it's very clear, 83 00:04:15,869 --> 00:04:18,190 the limit is the unacceptable behavior and 84 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,940 the alternatives are the acceptable behavior. 85 00:04:21,940 --> 00:04:26,119 All right. These common sense limitations, protect the child, 86 00:04:26,339 --> 00:04:28,230 the therapist and the playroom. 87 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,290 All right. So let's go back to 88 00:04:30,470 --> 00:04:34,880 what are the three unwritten rules for limits in the playroom? 89 00:04:36,130 --> 00:04:37,649 I'm sure you all just yelled them out. 90 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,100 The child has to be safe. We have to be safe 91 00:04:40,299 --> 00:04:42,709 and nothing can be damaged on purpose in the playroom. 92 00:04:43,130 --> 00:04:45,399 Ok. So that's what this is referring to here. 93 00:04:45,709 --> 00:04:47,070 They are common sense. 94 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:50,070 Limitations to protect the child, the therapist and the playroom 95 00:04:51,109 --> 00:04:55,079 and are a constant reminder of the distinction between fantasy and reality. 96 00:04:56,529 --> 00:04:57,179 Hmm. 97 00:04:57,809 --> 00:05:01,109 Ponder that for a moment, actually, I just stole that from Gary Landreth. 98 00:05:01,119 --> 00:05:03,739 He actually says that ponder that, 99 00:05:03,899 --> 00:05:04,470 ok, 100 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:05,510 so 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,929 the distinction between fantasy and reality, 102 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:10,890 sometimes the only way that a child can understand that 103 00:05:11,420 --> 00:05:12,510 is through limits, 104 00:05:13,059 --> 00:05:14,029 that's very important. 105 00:05:16,119 --> 00:05:19,700 Such limits anchor the child's therapy to the world of reality. 106 00:05:20,779 --> 00:05:25,089 The therapist is aware that limits are conducive to developing self-discipline 107 00:05:25,239 --> 00:05:28,399 and hopes that the child will eventually set limits for himself. 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,910 And isn't that the end goal? 109 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,920 Because we know that what comes out of limit setting when necessary 110 00:05:35,609 --> 00:05:39,380 is that the child develops self responsibility and self control. 111 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:41,109 So inevitably, 112 00:05:41,119 --> 00:05:45,549 the child will not only set their own limits but comply with their own limits 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,179 and it takes us out of the need 114 00:05:48,420 --> 00:05:50,269 to set those limits at some point. 115 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,029 Ok. 116 00:05:52,140 --> 00:05:56,250 So when setting limits, the therapist is firm just and strong, 117 00:05:57,170 --> 00:06:00,989 it's critical for the therapist to main maintain neutrality 118 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:04,140 while sympathetically reflecting the child's feelings. 119 00:06:05,049 --> 00:06:07,000 This is crucial y'all because 120 00:06:07,119 --> 00:06:12,089 if our emotions come out in the way that we set limits for a variety of reasons, 121 00:06:12,690 --> 00:06:14,160 it taints the whole process. 122 00:06:14,940 --> 00:06:17,010 So we're firm just and strong, 123 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,250 but we have to be neutral while sympathetically reflecting the child's feelings, 124 00:06:24,670 --> 00:06:28,570 often we forget to reflect the feelings altogether. We jump straight to the limit 125 00:06:29,049 --> 00:06:31,179 and often our wording is not neutral. 126 00:06:31,730 --> 00:06:34,769 And often the way that we're presenting the limit 127 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,380 sounds emotional, sounds charged, sounds something. 128 00:06:41,190 --> 00:06:41,809 So 129 00:06:42,809 --> 00:06:46,549 I'm not for hitting you. But as soon as we get to that state 130 00:06:46,970 --> 00:06:49,040 where our body language and our tone of voice 131 00:06:49,049 --> 00:06:51,149 and our facial expression and everything about us, 132 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,549 screams of something other than neutrality. 133 00:06:54,769 --> 00:06:58,429 We lose the impact of limit setting because it needs to be neutral. 134 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:03,820 Continuing, the therapist does not react to the child with irritation or anger 135 00:07:05,980 --> 00:07:08,320 but sets limits in an impersonal 136 00:07:08,619 --> 00:07:10,100 non punishing manner. 137 00:07:11,369 --> 00:07:15,709 We state it just like we're stating that the grass is green and the sky is blue. 138 00:07:17,829 --> 00:07:19,670 You really want to throw those cars, 139 00:07:19,679 --> 00:07:23,279 but those cars are not for throwing at me because they could hit me and hurt me. 140 00:07:23,829 --> 00:07:26,329 You can choose to throw those cars into Bobo or 141 00:07:26,339 --> 00:07:28,049 you can choose to throw those at the target, 142 00:07:28,059 --> 00:07:28,839 which do you choose? 143 00:07:29,690 --> 00:07:34,390 It doesn't matter if one just clipped my ear or hit me in the face or I'm 144 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:38,910 bleeding because it nicked my knee or whatever all of which have happened by the way. 145 00:07:39,399 --> 00:07:40,019 So, 146 00:07:40,339 --> 00:07:43,540 you know, it doesn't matter what has happened leading up to that point. 147 00:07:44,049 --> 00:07:48,660 We say it in an impersonal, non punishing manner. It's just factually 148 00:07:49,929 --> 00:07:52,820 and the counselor communicates limits decisively 149 00:07:53,549 --> 00:07:57,720 and seeks to convey the spirit of a non punitive helpful authority, 150 00:07:58,809 --> 00:08:02,570 really significant phrase there as a helpful authority. 151 00:08:03,679 --> 00:08:06,359 So we often don't think of ourselves as an authority figure 152 00:08:06,369 --> 00:08:09,820 because we work very hard to maintain equality in the playroom. 153 00:08:10,329 --> 00:08:13,640 But in terms of setting limits, because you have to be safe, 154 00:08:13,649 --> 00:08:17,140 the child has to be safe and things can't get damaged or broken on purpose. 155 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:20,609 We become a helpful authority 156 00:08:21,109 --> 00:08:24,220 only in the sense of we're helping 157 00:08:24,570 --> 00:08:29,269 to make it clear what the unacceptable behaviors and the acceptable behaviors are 158 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:33,219 and give the child an opportunity to practice self regulation. 159 00:08:34,890 --> 00:08:39,570 So we have ultimate authority as far as what needs to happen for safety 160 00:08:39,729 --> 00:08:41,179 and security. 161 00:08:42,419 --> 00:08:44,650 And that helps the child again 162 00:08:45,099 --> 00:08:46,799 feel that they can 163 00:08:47,109 --> 00:08:48,469 move through therapy 164 00:08:48,969 --> 00:08:51,549 because they have to have that security for therapy 165 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,690 to take place like we already talked about. 166 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:57,320 Ok, continuing to be successful, 167 00:08:57,330 --> 00:09:01,200 the therapeutic relationship must be built upon genuine respect that 168 00:09:01,210 --> 00:09:03,679 both the child and the therapist have for each other. 169 00:09:04,669 --> 00:09:08,729 The play therapist is willing and able to set appropriate limits to 170 00:09:08,739 --> 00:09:12,229 preserve the necessary sense of respect and acceptance for the child. 171 00:09:12,359 --> 00:09:15,789 Ok, let's pause there. What are the questions we ask ourselves? 172 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:17,130 Is this limit necessary 173 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:21,200 if I allow this behavior to continue and do not set a limit? 174 00:09:21,210 --> 00:09:23,549 Am I still able to accept the child? 175 00:09:24,359 --> 00:09:26,059 That's what this is talking about here. 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,979 We have to be willing and able to set appropriate limits to 177 00:09:30,989 --> 00:09:34,700 preserve the necessary sense of respect and acceptance of the child. 178 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,830 The therapist knows it is possible to be accepting of the child's 179 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,020 feelings without permitting the child to carry those feelings into action. 180 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:45,119 This goes back to 181 00:09:45,479 --> 00:09:48,880 all feelings are valid even when behavior is inappropriate. 182 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:53,049 So it is possible to be accepting of the child's 183 00:09:53,059 --> 00:09:55,849 feelings while still needing to set a limit on behavior. 184 00:09:56,859 --> 00:09:58,659 And in this wording without permitting the 185 00:09:58,669 --> 00:10:00,840 child to carry those feelings into action. 186 00:10:02,229 --> 00:10:03,450 Ok. Continuing, 187 00:10:03,609 --> 00:10:08,020 the therapist recognizes and respects the child's wish to break the limits 188 00:10:08,750 --> 00:10:13,010 and harmless channels are provided so the child can express his or her feelings, 189 00:10:14,979 --> 00:10:17,489 please be very mindful of that phrase, 190 00:10:17,659 --> 00:10:23,780 especially if you struggle with behavior and kids that do not comply with limits 191 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,849 and the ones that you have to repeat limits multiple times 192 00:10:26,859 --> 00:10:29,190 and the ones that you have to move to ultimate limits 193 00:10:29,359 --> 00:10:33,510 and the ones that you have to move to ultimate choice giving, if that unnerves you 194 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,570 and if that really is difficult for you, I'm gonna read that again. 195 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:39,890 Well, I'm just gonna read it again for everybody but be mindful if that's you, 196 00:10:41,169 --> 00:10:44,039 the therapist recognizes and respects. 197 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:48,520 So we have awareness and we accept it out of respect 198 00:10:49,049 --> 00:10:51,590 that the child wishes to break the limits 199 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,109 and we provide harmless channels so the child can express his or her feelings. 200 00:10:57,140 --> 00:10:59,250 You're not wrong for wanting to break the limit. 201 00:11:00,169 --> 00:11:02,000 I'm going to give you alternatives. 202 00:11:03,650 --> 00:11:03,989 All right. 203 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,700 Continuing, 204 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,809 the play therapist remains accepting even when the child chooses to break a limit. 205 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:11,780 So 206 00:11:12,619 --> 00:11:16,320 the first time we set a limit or the sixth time we set a limit 207 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,520 which really, you should never have to set it six times, 208 00:11:18,530 --> 00:11:20,039 it's three times and then an ultimate limit. 209 00:11:20,049 --> 00:11:21,200 But I'm just saying, you know, 210 00:11:21,549 --> 00:11:25,309 in a metaphorical sense here, it doesn't matter how many times we set a limit, 211 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,390 we maintain neutrality and we remain accepting of the child's behavior 212 00:11:32,539 --> 00:11:35,849 because the child chooses what the child chooses. 213 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,690 And all we do is enforce the consequence of the choice. 214 00:11:40,130 --> 00:11:43,070 So we can be completely accepting and neutral even 215 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,909 when the child chooses to break the limit. 216 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:47,960 OK. And then finally, 217 00:11:48,289 --> 00:11:49,820 the experience of play 218 00:11:50,489 --> 00:11:52,640 offers the therapist the opportunity to 219 00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:55,840 build a therapeutic child-centered relationship. 220 00:11:56,119 --> 00:11:58,340 It is this therapeutic relationship 221 00:11:58,619 --> 00:12:01,320 rather than the materials or the techniques 222 00:12:01,599 --> 00:12:03,549 which bring about healing and growth. 223 00:12:04,479 --> 00:12:05,309 Therefore, 224 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:09,940 the personality characteristics and interpersonal skills of 225 00:12:09,950 --> 00:12:12,270 the play therapist are critically important. 226 00:12:14,289 --> 00:12:15,359 All right. So 227 00:12:15,460 --> 00:12:18,469 I don't think I've ever shared this, but when I was in undergrad, 228 00:12:18,479 --> 00:12:21,789 my minor was in Bible, biblical studies officially. 229 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,799 So in addition to my psychology degree, 230 00:12:26,190 --> 00:12:30,179 which is my bachelor's degree, I had a minor in biblical studies. 231 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,400 And one of the things that the professor said to us all the 232 00:12:33,409 --> 00:12:36,510 time when we were studying the Bible is "what's the therefore there for?"" 233 00:12:37,719 --> 00:12:42,739 So in this paragraph, I'm going to reread it and I want you to listen to the therefore, 234 00:12:42,750 --> 00:12:45,039 because it ties to what was said above, 235 00:12:45,669 --> 00:12:47,190 the experience of play 236 00:12:47,549 --> 00:12:49,500 offers the therapist the opportunity to 237 00:12:49,510 --> 00:12:52,059 build a therapeutic child-centered relationship. 238 00:12:52,859 --> 00:12:57,169 It is this therapeutic relationship rather than the materials or the techniques. 239 00:12:57,830 --> 00:13:00,460 It's not about our toys. It's not about our skills. 240 00:13:00,849 --> 00:13:03,090 It's not about whether we have Bobo or not. 241 00:13:03,330 --> 00:13:06,010 It's not about how many acting out aggressive toys we have. 242 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:08,479 It's not about how small our room is, how big our room is, 243 00:13:08,489 --> 00:13:10,020 how well equipped our room is. 244 00:13:10,229 --> 00:13:13,650 If we're fresh out of grad school, if we've been doing it for 20 years, 245 00:13:13,659 --> 00:13:17,140 if you have no CCPT knowledge whatsoever except this podcast, 246 00:13:17,150 --> 00:13:18,929 or if you're CCPT certified 247 00:13:20,109 --> 00:13:22,479 rather than the materials or the techniques. 248 00:13:23,549 --> 00:13:27,390 It is the therapeutic relationship that brings healing and growth. 249 00:13:27,989 --> 00:13:28,849 Therefore, 250 00:13:30,260 --> 00:13:32,210 the personality characteristics, 251 00:13:32,969 --> 00:13:34,520 your traits, 252 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,940 your personality characteristics, 253 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:41,869 you individually as a child-centered play therapist, who you are 254 00:13:42,849 --> 00:13:45,169 and your interpersonal skills, 255 00:13:47,190 --> 00:13:48,780 the way that you interact 256 00:13:50,780 --> 00:13:52,130 are critically important. 257 00:13:54,119 --> 00:13:57,619 So, is it about materials and techniques and 258 00:13:57,780 --> 00:13:59,880 skills, et cetera? Of course, 259 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:05,140 but it is the therapeutic relationship that brings healing and growth. We know this 260 00:14:05,450 --> 00:14:06,460 and therefore 261 00:14:06,950 --> 00:14:09,809 your personal characteristics, who you are, 262 00:14:09,820 --> 00:14:13,000 what you bring into that playroom because of your essence, 263 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:14,280 your being 264 00:14:14,630 --> 00:14:16,809 the way that you interact with kids, 265 00:14:18,789 --> 00:14:20,869 those things are critically important. 266 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,820 I hope that encourages you. I hope it 267 00:14:25,099 --> 00:14:27,260 makes you mindful and aware 268 00:14:27,619 --> 00:14:29,859 of the power of you 269 00:14:30,510 --> 00:14:31,219 in the playroom. 270 00:14:32,849 --> 00:14:35,609 And not because you're so knowledgeable, not because 271 00:14:35,719 --> 00:14:38,669 you have developed so many clinical skills in this model. 272 00:14:38,679 --> 00:14:41,270 Not because you've gone through so much training which many 273 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,330 of you have and I am fully supportive of that. 274 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:46,909 We should always be learning, always be growing. 275 00:14:48,510 --> 00:14:50,469 But just because you're, you 276 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,150 and your personality and your traits and your characteristics 277 00:14:56,109 --> 00:14:59,260 and the relationship that you build, the way that you interact, 278 00:14:59,270 --> 00:15:00,719 the way that you communicate, 279 00:15:01,369 --> 00:15:03,530 all of those are critically important too. 280 00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:05,650 So don't 281 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,820 get so caught up in the skills, don't get so caught up in doing things 282 00:15:10,020 --> 00:15:11,909 in the most effective way 283 00:15:12,780 --> 00:15:14,700 that you fail to acknowledge 284 00:15:14,909 --> 00:15:17,650 that just you in the room means a lot. 285 00:15:18,859 --> 00:15:24,000 I hope that that gives you a boost this week. And I hope that you celebrate 286 00:15:24,260 --> 00:15:27,190 how you interacting with your clients 287 00:15:27,299 --> 00:15:29,400 is meaningful just because you're you 288 00:15:30,479 --> 00:15:31,229 all right. 289 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:34,900 Good to be with you all. We've finished with the eight principles. 290 00:15:34,909 --> 00:15:38,380 So we're gonna be moving on to some other passages in the next few weeks 291 00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:40,109 and we'll continue this for the rest of the 292 00:15:40,119 --> 00:15:43,789 summer and then we'll be back into some regular curriculum 293 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:45,890 once summer is 294 00:15:46,229 --> 00:15:47,940 drawn to a close. So 295 00:15:48,099 --> 00:15:51,520 love you all. Thanks so much for your time each week that you spend with me. 296 00:15:51,530 --> 00:15:52,580 If you want to reach out to me, 297 00:15:52,590 --> 00:15:55,570 I'd love to hear from you brenna@thekidcounselor.com 298 00:15:55,909 --> 00:15:57,979 and I look forward to talking with you again soon. Bye. 299 00:15:58,809 --> 00:16:01,500 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast 300 00:16:01,510 --> 00:16:04,989 with Dr. Brenna Hicks for more episodes and resources. 301 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,909 Please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.