A Look Back: Hannah B. Talks Life After ‘The Bachelorette’

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Speaker 1: Hey, Happy Hour listeners, I hope you enjoyed these throwback episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes very soon. Hey guys, I'm Rachel and I'm Ellie and welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Hey, thank you guys so much for tuning into our first couple of podcasts last week. I mean, we really did have a great time talking to Peter and Demi, and we hope you guys had a chance to listen to our special emergency podcast. We had to record it like last minute because we wanted to get you breaking news and that was with Jed, and we posted it on Friday, so if you haven't listened to that yet, check it out. Jed was really honest with us and it definitely gave me new perspective to the story. I'll just say that, and I just want to thank you guys for listening and tuning in to what Jed had to say. I know it was it was pretty split fifty fifty on people's opinions regarding Jed, But thanks to you guys for subscribing and downloading the episode. Bachelor Happy Hour was actually number one podcast almost all weekend, and that's pretty amazing. Because we just started this whole thing, I know, and like we definitely have a lot of kinks that we need to work out. We do, We're just trying to figure it all out, so bear with us. But we really appreciate you guys listening, and we have a great podcast today. I mean, we're really excited because we are talking to the one end only Hannah. It's funny, that's right. Like I have been dying to talk to her about so many things, and you know, I know, Rachel, you know this too. She's really close to Demi, who is going through a huge journey in Paradise right now, and I'd love to hear what Hannah has to say about everything. No, I'm curious too. I love their friendship, and I know both of us, being past leads and having been on the Bachelor too, we know what it's like to develop those close friendships as you're going through this entire journey. And in regards to Demi, we found out this week that she's been dating a woman prior to coming on the show. And I feel like, as a franchise, we're entering some new territory here and I'm wondering what this all means. For the Bachelord franchise, and I guess my question is will this change the future of the show. I mean, I hope it does for the better, you know, I think it's great. So we're going to get into all of that. Plus we're going to talk to Hannah about her life after the show and find out what is next for her. It's funny because we started this podcast at the right time. I mean, right in the middle of the finale. This was an epic finale uncharted Territory, and now Paradise is looking like it's going to be the exact same thing. Yeah, yeah, it looks really good. I don't know about you, but watching the past couple of nights, I feel like I was sweating while watching so much was going on. Yeah, but first we have to talk about that Jed interview the other day. I really want to know your take on at Rachel and that's coming up in just a minute right after this. All right, Hey, guys, So Jed sat down with us last Friday for his first in depth interview since after the final Rose, and we got a lot of feedback from you guys, the listeners on what you thought of the interview. Yeah, I mean I have to say, and paying attention to what people were saying on social media and just in their reviews, it seems like people were were fairly split in regards to the Responsive Jet's interview, and so we we got some feedback, and so we want to read back from some of the listeners who wanted to comment on that interview, and at got a run forty four from Instagram said, quote listened, I'm a sixty four year old nana here and I'm with you Grace to Jed, I'd die if my twenties were plastered on media sides. We've all made big mistakes. That's all right. I agree. I my twenties were not show. It's funny. I listened back to that interview that we did, and uh, you know, I agree with the split reviews. I agree that maybe we could like originally were you You were pretty lawyer asque on him, which I love about you, but I agree I could have been harder on him at places. So I mean, we hear you guys were listening, and we appreciate all of your feedback. So then another person wrote, and it's at Ga four Au wrote, I am in no way trying to be a bully. But I listened to your podcast and I felt like Jed was still lying to y'all all about things. I don't think he is authentic at all. I think people would respect him more if he would just become if he would be completely transparent. I just didn't get that vibe at all. I have to agree I didn't either. But we could talk about that later, you know. I guess the thing is, like it was hard, like Rachel, because that was an emergency podcast you called in, But like I have to say it, there is something a little bit different about sitting across from somebody and looking them in the eye, and you just get a different vibe. Like I feel like when I've listened back to it, I was like, oh, he doesn't sound sincere, But when I was sitting in front of him and looking at him, he did. I don't know. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. I know you're you're right, alliett is hard, And I think what people don't understand is we are stuck in a place of we're trying to ask the tough questions, but at the same time we're being professional. You know, we can't just ream him or go in on him, we have to conduct this as an interview, and I know I felt like I was stuck in a place of being wanting to be ruthless but then trying to be professional at the same time. Okay, one more. Anya emailed us at happy hour at Bachelnation dot com, and you guys can do the same. If you have any questions, any comments, please make sure you email us at happy hour at Bachelnation dot com. But Anya said, I just wanted to thank you all, or to thank you for a great interview with Jed. You really cleared the air with him and I and I love that you ask real questions that challenged him. I love your interview style and how real you are. Keep up the good work. Thank you, Thank you. We appreciate that. We do appreciate it. And look, and like we've been saying, you know, the past couple of minutes, we get that there was different opinions that you know, some people thought we were too easy on him. Some people, well really people thought I was too easy on You're nice to him, But you know, I hope that people understood. And this is one thing where I saw a few comments that people thought maybe we weren't you know, being fair to Hannah. I want you guys to know that in that interview and just in life and hopefully here today on this podcast, we have nothing but the utmost respect for Hannah, and just giving Jed some grace doesn't mean that we're not saying that we're not, you know, on Hannah's team. It's all about Hannah in that situation, as we were just trying to give Jet a platform to tell his side. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with that, you know it just because we're giving someone off an opportunity to tell their side of the story or to ask tough questions doesn't mean that we agree with them. It just simply means we are conducting an interview because that is what we do on a podcast. You know, you ask questions and relevant, you know, to what's going on in Bastination. And as much as you don't want to admit it, Jet was relevant at the time. Well also, it's like, I don't know, Rachel want to listen back to it. I remember at one point where he was talking about the doc, and the first time we asked him about it, he said that he was just just talking like BS. And then the second time we asked him about it, he told us about the meditation thing. Right, If you guys don't know what we're talking about, go back and listen to that podcast. But I was like, oh, like what I listened back to. I was like, I wish that I called him on that, Like I wish that I said, Hey, wait a second, you just said you were talking BS. So it's funny you look back and you can even critique yourself like we're just having fun. We're just girls with some wine and some microphones trying to, you know, have a little bit of fun, get some answers for you guys, and you know, sometimes we're gonna miss things, but hopefully not always, hopefully don't really get into it. Well, it's funny you mentioned the doc reference because I totally googled that and I couldn't find anything in regards to what he was talking about at all. Maybe he brought it up. I don't know, but I wonder Ali, because you know, he said, you've had time to listen to the interview that we had and you were able to reflect on it. How do you feel like coming into the interview with Jed? Did you feel any different coming out of that interview. Did your thoughts on Jed change in any way? I mean, yeah, I think I felt I felt for him after the interview more so than I did going in. I mean, I always kind of felt for him a little bit, just because, as I explained in that podcast, I feel like I was in his shoes in a way. But yeah, I mean, I think having a sit down conversation with anybody that feels remorseful, you're going to feel a little bit better about them coming out of it. How did you feel. I felt like I didn't believe Jed coming into the interview, and after the interview, I didn't believe him even more. I was really trying to be professional in that interview because there were so many things that I felt like I could pick a part in what he was saying. But at the same time, I still stand by the grace aspect of the interview, and I do stand by not kicking somebody while they are so down. And I do appreciate that we were able to have that important conversation about mental health and the attacking people on social media. But and I do believe that in that world, on this journey, he loved Hannah. I do believe that, but I do wish that. Remember we were asking him about the comments of him liking and he gave that pitiful explanation, Oh, come on, I totally done that before. Ali, he did it more than once? Oh he did? I didn't know. Yes, I went back and I look and I'm like, okay, once, get it twice not so much so there were sudden If he did it more than once, then yeah, then that's that's probably not true. But overall, I'm happy with the way that we conducted the interview as a whole, and I think that we were respectful and professional, and that's how you should be sitting in our in our seats because we know what it's like to be picked on and to be praised totally. And I like that you brought up the mental health aspect because I feel like that's a good segue into Bachelor in Paradise because lots went on and as angry as I am right now after watching you know, four hours of the show, by the way, four hours every week, so there's going to be a lot to talk about. But after watching everything with Blake, I have to like dig down deep into my soul and remember to give him grace I am very upset with him, and I'm going to say many things, but we have to remember again, everybody out there, when we're talking about Blake, he is a real human being. He's obviously very stressed about everything went down. So I think I say, get into it, Rachel, Oh, let's go. So first, what do you think about the cast um? Okay, So I think it's a little slim pickings on the side of the men. I just I think that, and the men have the power. You know, as we're watching this week, they have the power to choose. I think because it's slim pickings, they had to have the power. Yeah, they did. I mean the women are stunning the beautiful, and you can see it in the way that the men are responding to them as one by one they continue to walk on the beach. I do find interesting that it's very clear there's like a hierarchy in Paradise. I feel like, more than other seasons, you've got the king and the queens of Paradise and then other people just are getting no attention whatsoever. And I feel like that there's a bigger disparity in that this season than in normal seasons. Yeah. Well, I mean Blake is one of those Kings of Paradise right now. They keep referring to him as the Bachelor of Paradise because all the girls are in him. So z oh gosh, Blake. I was so upset watching the situation with Kaylin and Christina and like, especially when Kaylin like broke down in tears to him and was just like I was your dirty secret and you were texting other girls when we were in bed, Like it broke my heart. I literally cried watching the episode because I've been her, and I know there are so many other women out there who have been in that situation, who have been made to feel that way by a man, And I think Blake showed remorse. But this is my problem. Rachel. Do you remember when he was like sitting down doing the interview and he was crying and he broke down sobbing, and I felt for him in that moment, But I don't think he was crying because he genuinely maybe he feels a little bit bad, but when he really broke down, it was like my family, my reputation. Like I think he was crying because he knows no more innocent Blake. Oh oh, alec I couldn't agree with you more. Now I disagree on Kay, because this is what you bring up a very interesting point when you talk about tears. Tears don't mean that somebody's remorseful. A lot of times, it could be embarrassed. It could be that they got caught and they're shamed. And I agree with you that that's what we were seeing with Blake. Now, get ready for the beat button, okay, because I'm gonna have a few choice words here. Oh man, I'm nervous. Was Blake thinking? That's? That was literally my thought because I was such a fan of Blake. He was my favorite from Becca season. My heart was broken when he didn't when she didn't choose him, and I've been rooting for him and just a proponent of Blake ever since. Now here comes Blake walking into Paradise thinking he's the man. Obviously, this this Bachelor of Paradise thing really got to his head even before he walked on the beaches of Paradise. Now I don't the reason I say, what was Blake thinking? How could he think that that dirt that he you know, all that drama he created before wasn't going to follow him into Paradise? Have you watched any show on the Bachelor and now you think that you were just going to end it because you were quote trying to do the right thing. No, Blake, you were trying to as I think can't remember who it came out with, Christina or if it came out with Kaylin that he said, you know she felt like. I think it was Christina when she was talking to Tasia and Christina said, you know what I feel like, Rtatia said, it sounds like he was trying to kind of tie up loosens before he walked into Paradise. Totally told Christina about Kaylin right before coming on the show. It's exactly even he said. I think to one of the guys, maybe Willis, he was like, oh, I guess I didn't tell her soon enough. Well, yeah, if you didn't tell her and then waited till a few days before coming on Paradise and then told her, I'd say you didn't tell her soon enough. And and I think he's just being so naive and dumb to think that you can have relations with a woman and that no feelings are going to be attached. I think for Blake it was hey, I'm out here, I'm fun, I'm trying to have a good time, and Kaylin probably tried to play it cool. But I have never met a female who can be intimate with the man and not have feelings attached. So that is Blake's bad for not realizing that well, especially because they dated for so long they faced time three times a day. I don't believe that. Now here's this is where we disagree. Okay, So yeah, because you said you weren't sure about Kaylin, get back up there. Where what are you saying? I don't believe Kaylyn, because here's my thing. You gotta not listen to what people say. You gotta watch how they move. And I watched how Kaylyn moved this week throughout Paradise. You know, she comes in, She literally came in as Hurricane Kaylyn. Right, she was intentional. I do believe that she and Blake agreed. Okay, you know what what happened before Paradise stays out of it. But she came immediately guns a blazing, ready to tear stuff up and mess mess Blake's life, which I kind of believe Blake when he was called off guard and didn't think that was that was fair of her or Christina to do. I hear you. I'm with you like I do think that she and Blake. Caylin and Blake came to an understanding that it was not going to be talked about here, and then she kind of blindsided him and talked about it here. But I don't think that was her plan. I think though, I think she thought she could come in and be all cool. She got there, saw him, realized she still has crazy feelings for him, and just lost it. Let me tell you what Hurricane Kylin did. Hurricane Calin came in and she said, you know what, I just want to lay it all out here. I just want to tell him like it is. I just want this secret to be out. Girl. Then why didn't you go up to Blake and just confront him and figure out how y'all wanted to navigate Paradise so you could clear the air. Instead, she wanted to divulge their private information to any ears that would listen and any camera that would film her. She told Nyaka, She told Wells, She told Sidna, remember what it's like to be in the Bachelor world. She was walking around the beach telling anybody that would listen. And then I did not like that she told Christina's business. Now, granted I'm biased, Okay, Christina's my girl, but don't you think it was Christina's business to tell that she slept with Blake. That wasn't Kaylin's business to tell. Caylen said, oh I slept with him, and oh, by the way, the night before, so did this girl, Rather than this could have been like a women empowerment moment where once you saw Christina come, you guys could have confronted him together. You could have teamed up and confronted Blake, rather than you were kind of talking shit about Christina and Blake instead of confronting the people who were involved. And then you say you felt so bad for Tasia, yet you never went to Tasia to tell her. But I don't understand he didn't want to be the one to paint Tasia's opinion. Like I just don't think that we can be so mad at Kaylin. Like Kaylin, in my opinion, is the victim here Um and Krissina, I know, I think that they're a victim of a guy that messed with them, played with their hearts, played like both Christina and I don't think she was trying to just say something negative about Christina. She was very clear that he that Blake messed with both of them and how that was wrong. But don't you think that wouldn't you be upset it was coming? But wouldn't you That doesn't make it any better. Wouldn't you be upset if someone told people that about your relations with another man? Yeah, without you, without your permission? Name, it was? It was. And I'm not excusing Blake. Let me just be clear. I think what Blake did is wrong. And I think Blake was stupid to think that that wouldn't follow him into Paradise. He knew Christina was coming, He probably had an idea that Kaylin was coming. And then let's not even talk about that. He was talking to Hannah Gee before as well. So Blake is wrong and how he handled this whole situation. But I don't think Kaylin's hands are clean in this. She she is being vengeful. She's upset with the way that Blake treated treated her, and rightfully so a girl throw him under the bus because he screwed you over. Okay, that's just how I feel. Well, let's say let's stay on the Klin train, okay, because we got we had four hours of Bachelor in Paradise to watch this week, Yeah, and every week, Klin spent the majority of her time talking stuff about Blake, right, rather than getting to know other people, which kind of backfired because, oh, here we are, it's the night of a rose ceremony, and all of a sudden, she's spent so much time talking about Blake and that drama that it's like, who's going to give you a rose? Because it so exactly now. Now, now, let's go back to what I was saying about unclean hands and being manipulative? Now, was that not the most manipulative move for her to everybody does that in Paradise. That's one of my problems with Paradise as we see people going in and trying to get kisses and it's gross. I never thought I would say this, but poor Cam. Cam's like, I've been waiting this, I've been wanted to come meet Kaylin. This has been you know, I'm so excited for this, and Kaylin is just playing him like a fiddle, talking about who are you? Who are you? I bet next week Kaylin doesn't pay to give two seconds of attention to Cam, you know, talk about talk about just trying to like pity roses, since that was a narrative that surrounded cam. It was really sad and it was manipulative. And I'm telling you you got about JPJ and you you're telling me that wasn't also the same situation. They're bras, they're just friends. I mean I was cringing, like I was just like, oh, that this is also that situation. So I don't think we can blame Kaylin for that, because I think everybody does that on Paradise when they realize they're in jeopardy. We see these attempts at getting roses, and I feel like she will not be the first and she will not be the last to do it. But yes, I agree, that was not great. Okay, let's let's switch gears really quick, um, because another thing that I just think is so worth talking about, and really, you know, we briefly mentioned it earlier in the podcast, but it's just Demi Demi, you know, being open and honest about her relationship with a woman before coming on the show and about who she chooses to love. I feel like this is so huge for Bachelor Nation, not only Bachelor Nation, but just our culture in general. Bachelor is so ingrained in our culture, So I feel like it's so great that this storyline is coming out on the show. Yeah, what I like about it is it's reflective of real life. A lot of times the Bachelor franchise gets noted because what we see on TV doesn't reflect real life, right, And it is very real for someone to have a relationship with the same sex, And so I love that we're going to see Demi explore this uncharted territory that we've never seen in the Bachelor franchise. And I think that it also takes a really strong person to be the first to do it, And so that's why I'm glad it's going to be Demmi. Because Demmy, even though she's one of the youngest people, she represents herself so well. She's so well spoken, she knows who she is, and she is very aware, and sadly, we don't see a lot of that in Bachelor franchise, and so Demmy is the right person to be able to do this and to stand on this platform, and so I'm so excited to see her journey and to see where it takes us. Absolutely, like in the teaser, at one point, I can't remember exactly what it was, but we see that she it does end up with or not end up with, but she at some point is with a woman in Paradise. So we're going to see her journey and you know, she was seeing Derek and then at some point she's seeing a woman. So I think it's really cool that we're going to see both sides of it. And I agree. I think Demi's the perfect person too to do this because she is so well spoken, Like I love how when Annelie's was talking about confronting Kay, Demi was just like, Hey, why did you do that? Like, and she's just I love how it was just straightforward. She is nobs with her It's right to the point. And I think she is going to just show herself really make herself proud this season because she's doing an incredible thing for so many young men and women, not even young, young, old man, woman, whoever you are. She's going to not only help people, but I think she's going to save lives telling her story absolutely, and I think that you know, we only got a tease of what's to come in regards to Demmy's journey and Paradise, and so I want to see if we can get some more inside scoop. So I'm so excited that we actually get to talk to her best friend about this entire situation, because from what we can see, Hannah came to Paradise, she got to talk to Demmy, and I'm sure she knows a little bit more than what has been shown too, So maybe we can poke her a bit and find out more about what's going on with Demmy. And we're going to talk to Hannah in a bit, she'll be on the phone with us, but right after this, we are so excited to have Hannah with us on the phone. Hannah, Welcome to the podcast. Hey, I'm excited to be here. We are so excited to have you. Now. We've been talking about you before, we've had you on the podcast, so it's nice to actually have this sit down and interview you. And don't worry, it's been all positive things because we're fans here. Don't worry drying. We got you. But one of the things we were talking about before you jumped on the phone, obviously Paradise that started this week, and there's a lot to get into when it comes to that, but one of the big conversations is Demi and we know that that's your best friend. So tell us about your friendship with Demmi, because I think one of the beautiful things that comes out of this entire Batchelor franchise are the friendships that you developed that kind of surprised you along the way. Oh yeah, I will definitely say that my friendship with Demi surprised me a lot, because the first time I met Demie it scared me, to say the least. I was like, oh my god, she she was just so over the top. I mean that first night at Colton m M when we met each other all at the first night Colton season, and I was like, Okay, I'm staying away from that girl, which is so funny now that she's like my best friend. And I was like, I don't know, not not really feeling this thing, but I was terrified. The first few days I did not talk to anybody, which is now crazy because I was been the crazy girl on that ship. But um, I don't remember exactly how we started talking. I think we went on a Greek date together and then we just like fell in love with each other, like Okay, we're gonna be best friend, We're gonna take over the world. I think I started like kind of letting my personality out a little bit more and then we just buddied up from there and I was like, Okay, this girl is so cool, so funny, and it's not I thought she was kind of like putting on a show. And I think a lot of people think that, like because she has this this bold personality and she just says whatever she's thinking. People think it's just for her to get attention, but it's not. It is that is her, That's how she is all the time. And I thought the same thing until I was with her all the time and realized that that's just who she is. And I will give her credit to even helping me along with my journey of just being able to kind of break the mold that I tried to put myself in of just always trying to say the right thing and you know, not saying anything at all if I don't, you know, have anything to say that I'm scared people might you know, not agree with. But being a friend, having a friend like Demi kind of allowed you to feel confident to just say whatever you're feeling. And um, yeah, she's just so awesome, so supportive. M We we just have a really good time together and I'm just really blessed by her support and love and then I'm able to give that back to her, and um, I know that we'll be friends forever. I love that you said, like, you know, you guys fell in love with each other like friendships at the beginning, because I always say that when people are like the Bachelor, and Bachelor doesn't result in love like that. Often I'm like, no, there are so many like relationships. The loves of my life are my girlfriends that, like I met from the show. So I love that you said that, because we always is love coming out of the show. Denny and I would with Jack as we watched the show on Colton season. They'd be like, actually, the best love story that's come out of the show, it's us. That's what we used to say too. Yeah, like it's it's meaning to me and I love that people love our friendship because we are just so supportive of each other and if anybody's like trolling her, I've got her back. If anybody's being mean to me, she's got mine as it should be. Yeah, she's the best. So we see Demi on Bachelor in Paradise come chat with you and open up to you about her sexuality, Which was that the first time that she had talked to you about it? No, Um, we we had talked about it before after this Colton season. But I always knew that she was very open to many different types of relationships and um, so it was it wasn't really a surprise for me when we had that conversation that everyone saw on the first episode of Bachelor in Paradise, because I knew that she had had relationship ups in the past, and you know, I am supportive of whatever makes Demi happy, and I want her to have the best experience on Bachelor and Paradise, however that may be. If that's what a guy, if that's what a girl. I am just looking forward to Demmi finding somebody that she can see spitting the rest of her life with, and whoever that is, I just hope that we can get along because we're gonna be had to be best friends too. So um. Yeah, so it wasn't really a surprise for me. Um. But it also I don't know, like it wasn't something like we just always talked about, but I was I was surprised that she was openly talking about it with everyone, because it's not like she was hiding it. But great, it's a big deal to bring it up exactly. It was like it wasn't She didn't have to bring it up for the world to know. And so I think that's what's so amazing and courageous about Demi is that she is taking her personal life that's really something that a lot of people are that well, it resonates with a lot of people and kind of bringing that to lie and that's so strong and so brave of her, and I think it's awesome. It's bring it's bringing a conversation into the Bachelor franchise that I feel likes needed to happen and sharing different types of relationships. So really proud of her in that way too. Well, you answered my next question that I was going to ask you about, what do you think this means for the future of the franchise, just because the franchise gets knocked for not being diverse on so many different levels hashtag Mike for Bachelor, And I think that what do you think that with this what Demi is doing, that she's maybe setting you know, something new, something new is about to happen in the Bachelor franchise, that maybe her example will allow other people to come out and maybe we'll see more type of relationships that mirror this. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I'll even and I'm not saying like, oh, look at me my season, but I think it really shows where the direction of just the franchise is going. Talking We're talking about sex openly, we're talking about faith, We're talking about and this has been happening for a while. We've been moving the needle in the right direction for a while, but it's it's really now. It's like we're we're changing the game now truly within me in her relationship. And I think watching this season The Bachelor and Paradise unfold will kind of show us where this franchise is going. And I hope we continue to not just like fantasize about what love is, because love can be messy and it's not just this cookie cutter thing of this perfect fairy tale. I mean, there is going to be drama, but it's not always just like this catty drama. It's trying to figure out what you want in life, who you love, why you love them, and it might be different in something that you've ever had before. And what conversations go into play about trying to figure that out. And let's stop like going beating in around the bush because it might be something controversial, Like if this is gonna be real life true love stories, then let's talk about real life. Stop And how you say love is messy, I mean one thing too. And I think you said you know, Demi's been there for you throughout your journey as the Batch, right, which is so beautiful, but like you're gonna unfortunately we live in a world where not everybody's gonna be nice, and you're gonna have to be right back there for her because she's going to deal with a lot of this season. I think she is so brave, and I know she's not talking about her sexuality necessarily to like to do anything. She's doing it for herself, I would assume, right, But she is going to change so many lives. She's gonna help so many people. But she's also going to face so much criticism, which is awful. But she's gonna need you right there for her. And through all of that, are you worried as her friend like what she's about to face? Ah, I know how bad the criticism can be. I mean, you go look at my Instagram or any social there's twenty thousand comments of just just pure, just mean people just wanting to put out some their opinions about something they don't even know, and they don't even know me. And she's gonna get Yeah, she's gonna get it too. But for me, I, first of all, I didn't have time to look at that stuff. So I guess they're just doing it for their own good because I really didn't have time. I was too busy. It's good doing my own thing. But um, I think that she is such a strong woman that yeah, couldn't sting a little bit, sure, but she's going to be come out on top with this, and I'm going to be there for her. And yes, it's gonna be over different topics in our relationships and what we're going through on this show or this franchise has been different. But I'm glad that in a way there's a silver lining to me having been through a lot of criticism because I can truly relate to her and be there for her. And sometimes you just need somebody to like. You don't need people to say I'm so sorry and feel bad for you. You just need somebody to just sit there with you and freaking throw things at walls or make fun of the people who think they know what they're talking about. It's not You don't need some money to to make you feel oh poor me. And I think that's how she is too. We need to like rally around like we're doing the best thing for ourselves. And I know she's doing the best thing, um for her happiness, and I'll be there through it, thick and thin, Hannah. Other than Demi, because I know you're watching Paradise, Um, who else? Because some of your guys are a few of your guys actually are on Paradise this week, one of some of the first people to hit the beach. Who else are you excited to hopefully see fine love in Paradise? Um, I'm excited, don't you dare? Say? JPJ? Why I do want if I'm love? If you don't want him to day if I'm love? I don't know if JPJ knows what he's there to find on the beach after watching this week. So it may be some board shorts, but I love when jpj uh is on my television screen and he is the conversations that I had with him. We're always so fascinating. I don't know what planet he's from, so I doesn't find another alien to love um, But I don't know. I mean, of course, like Mike and I had a great relationship, and so I want happiness for him, and so I hope that he can find um, somebody that Rachel doesn't want him to meet in Paradise. Yeah, Hannah, let's talk about that. I mean seriously, because everybody gets asked this question about how you feel about your guys being the bachelor, like who who do you want to be the next bachelor? Just say it no, Just you won't hurt anybody's feelings. Just say it no, because I don't. I think that Peter or Mike would be great. I think, but it would be totally different seasons. So it's yeah, this is my thought. Rachel. Remember when we talked about this on our first podcast, I said that I wanted it to be Peter very strongly, because I didn't feel like we knew Mike well enough. Well, here's the thing, Mike's going to be on Paradise. No, we're going to get a chance to know Mike. So if Mike holds up, I could see myself getting on the mic for Bachelor Train, if we get to know him better, I definitely have opinions on that, but I'll reserve them while we have Hannah here so I could ask more questions of Hannah. So yeah, I found it quite interesting that you didn't mention Tyler as so you don't think he would be a good bachelor. He's not my pick. So I mean, I agree with you at this point you don't think Tyler would be a good bachelor. I mean I think he is. Um, I mean, I think he likes the date a round, so maybe he would be a good bachelor. I mean, I'm trying not to go there, but you're kind of opening the doors for us. I mean at this point, I mean, he is. He has been on some dates. I'm sure you've heard about them. I don't know if you care to even comment on them or talk about them. But I guess my question is, like, and again, if you don't want to go there, you don't have to. We want to be completely respectful of you. But you had a date with him, which we all saw, Like, do you feel at all a little bit hurt by like him going on dates right after that? Um? Let me think of how I want to answer this. Yeah, I think about it. I he has every right to do whatever he wants to because we were, you know, just hanging out seeing where it goes. And I am completely fine with that. And you know, I think, but just because he had the right doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. Well, yeah, you know, kind of like the Blague situation. He had the right to sleep with Kaylin and then sleep with Christina the next day. They weren't he was in an exclusive relationship. But that doesn't mean it's not hurtful. Yeah, totally. I think it's more of like private conversations. It was a little confus confusing, but um, you know, he can do whatever he wants to and I know that I can too, and I am going to continue going onward and upward. And I just I just think that, you know, I've made it very clear, which sometimes like I have no shame of saying that, I have been very honest, Like, yeah, I had feelings, totally totally still still have feelings. But at the same time, I am not tied to any man or tied to Tyler, and I'm not going to be And everything that I said that I feel like I want deserve and the type of respect that I want from a man. I still believe that, and I feel going to hold those standards for any man in my life, and so I'm going to wait on a man to give me that. Good for you, Hannah. Kay, you guys, we have more with Hannah coming up right after this. Let me say something real quick about time. Go ahead, girl, because I'm at your back when it comes to this. Now. Ali and I have talked about this before. It's the lead who determines how quote unquote cool, somebody is right. You're the person to take them as far. If you would have sent Tyler home night one, maybe he would have been a grocery store Joe. Most likely he would not have been. So it is you, technically who got him to where he is. It is you, Hannah, that got him the two million followers that he has at the moment. And I'm sorry, I think it's a little bit disrespectful that he. Listen, you're in the public eye right, people freaking know where you live at this point. You're you're learning it the hard and fast way about what it's like to be thrown, you know, in this whole mess. So now people know where you live. They've taken pictures of you guys hanging out. Something you guys wanted to keep private is now out here on Front Street. Tyler's aware of that as well, and now he's going on a world tour dating people in public. Like I guess, I find it disrespectful. It's kind of like brush slow your role. You preach, You're on Twitter, you know, talking about Hannah's the Queen and preaching, you know, about respect, but then you're being a little disrespectful by dating her in such a public or dating other people in such a public way where you know it's going to get so much attention. I think that's my beef with it it too. Yeah girl, Yeah, you know we talk about this. I won't let you have to say that the nasty stuff, I'll say it for you. But I think that that's what really bothers me when it comes to how he's handling this. He's fully aware, he's fully aware of what's going on and what he's doing. And the thing is, I, um, I think it is like I have no problem with you know, we are not dating dating at all. We hung out, um, but we also had conversations of both like knowing that there's still something there and when you have um, when you are in the public eye, you do have to just be respectful of each other. And UM, yeah, I wish I would have got a little bit more than two days. But you know, it is okay. It is okay, and it is You're gonna be just fine. And I'm sure you're getting a lot of attention from other people, and I know you've been getting a lot of support from other celebrities just you know, fans of the show of batter Nation. You've turned a lot of people into fans when it comes to this franchise because you've had such a successful season. I'm just curious as to who has been the person of celebrity you've been most excited to hear from to support you as you're going through all of this. Oh God, there's been like a lot that would have been I don't. I mean, it's just crazy that like these people watch the show first of all, and then like fans of mine. But Demi Alatto has been like my girl. She has supported me so much. Her mom is my West Coast mom now, and so I would say for sure, Demi, I mean two Demis are better than one. So I got, I got my two girls, But I would I'm I'm just really glad to have a lot of women that are so um empowered by themselves to help me in this time where I'm just taking on this new um life and just I can learn a lot from from her and how she's handled her ups and downs in life and just staying still like an empowered young female. So, speaking of taking things on, would you consider taking on dancing with the stars? Oh? Yeah, if that was Yeah, I would love to do that. I think that'd be so fun. And did you do dance? Yeah? I danced um constance I was like two years old, and then through high school I danced um all the time at a dance studio. So definitely have a few tricks up my sleeve if I was to compete for that Marraball trophy. But I don't know. I think it would be a really good way for me to put my energy into something else right now. Yeah, And I'm really I can be competitive and said I know that I would like give it my all, but we'll see. How are you feeling just in general, because Hannah, you've gone through so much, like obviously we're all past bachelorettes here, like we've all been there, but like, I feel like you have really gone through a lot, especially with how things ended and everything, Like how are you? Like, how's your mental so funny? Because sometimes well how I handle stuff, I don't know if it's healthy or not. But there are days where I don't ever think, I don't think about it. I just like truck through and I'm like just singing some wizzle but not thinking about like anything, like just just loving life and definitely the way to do it. And then there are days that I are just moments that I'm like, oh my gosh, what just happened to me? What have I just been through? Did I just fight for Wars? I just it's been it's been really hard. I'm not even gonna pretend like it hasn't been because and there's so many layers to what's been hard it and yeah, there are days where I want to give myself a pity party. And then there are days where I'm like, I'm such a bad I don't know if I can say you can say that, you can say that I'm such a badass. Like there are some days that I'm like, God, Lee you know, you have grown so much that you can handle this and just keep on trucking, and and you're about to do so many incredible things. Like I'm giving myself pep talks like dang, you just rock that. You just killed that, and but then the next day I'm still like, oh my god, that was terrible. I mean, it's just like such a back and forth. But I think it's I'm actually processing it the best way because I'm okay, it's okay to be upset, it's okay to be mad, and it's okay to be hopeful for the future, and I'm feeling all those things, but I'm trying to make sure that the hope is the thing that outweighs the other stuff. Oh you're killing it, Hannah, I'm not even concerned about you. Definitely continue to talk to yourself because that's a sign of genius and insanity, and I think everybody everybody should do it. I talk to myself all the time because you have been so much And Ali asked such a great question in regard to that and just checking on you and your mental health and how you're doing. What advice would you give to future bachelorettes because you know, a lot of people have talked about how relatable you were, how they've been through something similar to what you went through, and I think that people will look to you as to how they should can navigate this if they step in this role, Spatsrette, So what advice would you give forget that you're on a TV show and maybe that Yeah, I guess that's hard. But I was always really concerned about, Okay, I'm looking for a husband. So if I'm looking for a husband, it's my honest for the rest of my life with I can't be trying to put on a persona for everybody else. So what would I do if it was just me with trying to go on dates. And the only way that I could do that was to shut everything out and to be my real, true self because I didn't want at the end of the day to have a man get down on me and then the next day be like, okay, so all that was really just a camera, but this is actually me. I didn't want that to happen. So the whole time I just stayed completely treated myself. Whether that was goofy, embarrassing, a little bit of a bitch, I didn't care like that's who I am. So you either love that or you don't, and if you don't, then you can get out. And I think that's what you have to do. If you're the bachelorette, you're really taking it seriously like I was, and how you should be. It's take advantage of the opportunity that you have to really find somebody that wants to be with you forever and show them you, and then hopefully you'll get somebody true and showing their real true self in return. Hannah, we are just one. Thank you for joining us, and we are just so happy to see this incredible strong woman that you have not only portrayed but even grown into. So thank you so much for being here with us. Well, thank god, I'm I'm excited that I was able to talk to you girls and hope to see y'all soon. You will. We have to have a nation so small. Thanks for being here. All right, Bye guys, Bye bye, Well Rachel, that was fun. This time goes by two fitt Does time flies when you're having fun? And I have such a good time talking to you, Ali and then anybody who comes on the show to sit and an interview with us. All right, We just want to thank you guys again for listening. I mean, we get so many emails at happy Hour at Bachelor nation dot com with your thoughts on these past two episodes, and know that we are just doing our best over here. 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