Pirates get Marcell Ozuna, Brewers ship Caleb Durbin to Boston, Goldschmidt reunites with Yankees

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Speaker 1: It's baseball season.

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Speaker 2: Congrats to the Seahawks, AJ's favorite team, second second favorite.

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Speaker 3: Whoa whoa whoa Scott.

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Speaker 1: Second, thank you, love you, great job. Won a ton of bets last night. And I don't like the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Chase imagination there. It is chasing just Sam Donald legend, Sam Donald Jets legend.

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Speaker 1: Jet's Legend's good for him. The redemption story so good.

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Speaker 3: Crowds, I don't think you have your mic on. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to see it as sick.

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Speaker 3: First time I've ever done that, first time I've ever done it. The game last night, by the way, wasn't very good unless you were a Seahawks man.

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Speaker 2: It was good for a party because there's just like a few big moments where and it was just like nice background.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, it wasn't a thriller, which is fine.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to thriller. I didn't, and that's what the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: It was the best game, like if you had your bets rolling, there was no sweating.

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Speaker 1: It was so nice.

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Speaker 3: Dave Poor annoying those guys, all those Pats lovers, hats lovers, Lucy Burge to come on here a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well at least Belichick's in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: No, did you see her shirt? And Robert crafton did you see Belichick's Girlfriend's shirt?

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Speaker 1: I heard she did some slight at them.

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Speaker 3: Was it so? When at the she was at the UNC Duke game, which, by the way, it was great college basketball this weekend to the UNC Duke, The Illinois Michigan State game was unbelievable. The Kentucky Tennessee game was awesome. I know we're a baseball show, but yes, Belichick's girlfriend wore a Tears of Asia or whatever it was in Jupiter, Florida, where Robert Kraft got arrested for whoa. Yeah, like the shirt she's taking shots. It was bad. I'm like, well, that can't Is that real? Like, is that really real? She wore that shirt? Wow, I forget what it's called, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Like I thought she was taking a shot at the Hall of Fame. She's taking a shot.

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Speaker 3: Craft one or the other.

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Speaker 1: Jeez.

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Speaker 2: I know, I didn't know. I didn't do a lot of research on all of that, but she knows how to stay in the headlines.

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Speaker 3: Well now it's over, though, so now we can move to baseball because football is officially that ball game is over.

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Speaker 2: We have spring training photos videos I'm seeing on social media already.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, there's Judge, there's Bragman, some guys popping up at camp.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I'll put to bed here is baseball does not beat the NFL in overall numbers in many categories, but they do have some advantages. NFL does not make their Hall of Fame voting public ever, so you never know what.

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Speaker 3: Tony Dungee got asked about it, and he would not you would say who he voted for. And then Rodney Harrison called him out on it too, right to his face, which.

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Speaker 2: I like the Hall of Fame for baseball released anyone that wanted it to be.

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Speaker 1: Probably it's eighty two percent of people, which is great.

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Speaker 3: They vote out, So if you have that power, you should have to answer to people questioning your out And like, there's certain people that vote for one person and they get ten right.

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Speaker 2: And our All Star Game is awesome, and the NFL is on life support with their Pro Bowl, flag football e Tuesday Night whatever thing. Ratings were by far the lowest ever. Also on the parody front, Jason Stark writing how Champs over the last ten seasons six in the NFL, seven and MLB teams in the finals the last ten seasons, thirteen in baseball, nine in the NFL. I love seeing people reply to tweets like this and just like cherry picking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can cherry pick anything, but Kratz.

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Speaker 2: They'll be like, well, that doesn't include this, this and this, and oh, it's not going to look like that over the next ten years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well who knows what anything's going to look like over the next ten years. Like it's clearly there's no parody in the NFL, So sorry the cat. The cat ain't bringing it. What is also not cap is I won my only FT bet and that was heads or tails. Suck it, Todd father nice.

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Speaker 2: It was a it was a great night. It was a lucrative night. But there's a lot of money flying around right now. Moves wise, we seem to be hitting our like little deadline stretch of players in.

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Speaker 3: Because people are showing up the camp and players are getting nervous. I mean it happens every year.

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Speaker 1: We'll take it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, agreed, I mean that's kind of how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Let's start it, let's chuck it about.

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Speaker 2: Marcel A Zuna one year, twelve million dollars DH, Pirates.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Good? Good for him?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what about for the Pirates? Though?

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Speaker 3: Good for them. It's a good move for the Pirates. It gives them a study DH. A guy who will hit you twenty to thirty homers probably doesn't have to worry about playing defense and can just go out there and give us his bats. And it helps our offense. I mean, their offense has vastly improved from where they were at the end of last season. So O'Hearn, Brandon lw Now you bring in Azuna. I mean, I like the moves that they have made. They're trying to shore up this team with the pitching that they have for the next few years.

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Speaker 1: I liked.

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Speaker 3: And there are a lot of are short term deals. They're just for a year or two and then we move on.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And I know the year was down and there were some injuries whatever, But I mean look at the prior to years for Azuna. An he's thirty five, Like you might not get back to that play. Discipline is still off the charts. To Kratz, walk percentages among the best in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Azuna from the Pirates. Yeah, I mean it's definitely. You know, they were felt like he was more valuable than Andrew McCutchen what he was going to bring him. And I would say, as much as I would want Andrew McCutchen to be a Pirate, I think right now, Marcelo Zuna they see it as an upgrade. The issue is last year they did run into a little bit of an issue with Reynolds getting hurt and saying, Okay, you gotta go play the outfield because Reynolds could still he could still DH, but he wasn't able to be out there running. It was it was really about his throwing. It was something of his lap. But it is really hamstringing you when Marcelo's in there. Marcelo is DH. But like AJ said, it's a one year thing. This team is so much better than it was at the end of last year. Is it enough offense to push them over the line of being a playoff contending team? You need big you need big years. There's gonna be You're gonna need big years. Is the is the drop in the fact that you won't get a three quarters of a year of key Brian Hayes defense, You know there's gonna be a drop in Brandon Lowe's defense. Is that gonna affect their pitching or is this team built to score enough runs because this pitching is that good? In my opinion, I think it is. I think they're definitely still a little short of the Cubs. I mean, I think the Cubs are the class of the central right now for sure.

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Speaker 2: Can we go back to that graphic too, so we can just run through the updated lineup with the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: There it is, let me read it real quick.

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Speaker 2: So Spencer Horriwitz at first, and we're showing ops plus from last year next to it. Brandon Looe acquired for second, Brian Reynolds in right field, Ryan o'harnon left. I mean that's not every day. I mean, left field in Pittsburgh is no joke. So I think he's going to also play quite a bit of first. Azon A's got d h. I mean, I'm not letting him play the outfield at all if it's up to me O Neil Cruz in center, and then Nick Gonzales Jared Trilla at third. That's really nothing against Trillo, but more of a utility player. That's where they really blew it, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Still in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they still could get estock creators who I think would be a huge.

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Speaker 3: Additional files that. But I think they still need one more. I mean Henry Davis and Jommy Barter are gonna, you know, because Henry Davis catch his schemes almost every start.

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Speaker 1: But they need a third basement.

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Speaker 3: They need a third base. Yes, yes, it's Time'neil Cruz is time. It's been enough. You can't use shortstop as Oh he's playing shortstop. Oh now he's switched positions. So I mean he's had the great Kevin Kiermeyer on there working with him for a couple of days. So outfield has figured out. So now it's time to swing. There's no way. There's no way Connor Griffin doesn't make the team out of camp. There's no way. Third base. He's played third base. Can you play third base? He's playing shortstop. Sorry, he's gonna play shortstop. I think I think Jared Triolo is a really good player. I get it. East Parades is an upgrade. How big of an upgrade? I do like Jared Triolo and there's gonna be he's a productive player. There's gonna be a spotlight on him for it. But Connor Griffin has to make the team. Let's say he struggles in April, you can send him down then. But if he makes the team and plays like you think he's gonna play on a team that wants to win, it's got a chance to give you a pick at the end of the year. Like the Pirates are willing to willing to roll the dice on that one. They're they're pushing their chips in. Did they have a lot of chips, I don't know, but they're pushing them in and I have a hard time believing he is not in that opening day lineup.

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Speaker 1: Go make that one big move.

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Speaker 2: Paratus is the guy because the Ashers are trying to trade him. We'll talk about the red tax trade later, but that's off the table now. I mean, Gino Suarez would have been a great fit for this team, but they blew it on that one. So you got Ozuna. That's the one more piece to me that puts them as a wildcard contender.

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Speaker 3: They needed they need another, need one.

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Speaker 1: More because they're also always thin, right that things.

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Speaker 3: Someone gets hurt, then you're really they're screwed.

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Speaker 1: You can't rely on everybody being healthy the who whole year? Yea, but who do you want much better?

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Speaker 2: I'm not smashing them crats, right, this is this is a lot better. This is yeah, I mean the first three years.

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Speaker 1: I laugh at them. I am not laughing anymore.

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Speaker 3: Who do you want first? Quickly? Who do you want first? Gino Suarez or.

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Speaker 1: Marcelo Zuna Ginosuire is no question for me? What about you, guys?

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Speaker 3: I would take Geno two.

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Speaker 1: That was the fit.

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Speaker 2: Now Marcelo Zuna plus e sac paratus, I'll take that for sure.

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Speaker 3: They gotta get it, they gotta pay. What's Esac making.

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Speaker 1: I'll find he just twelve or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Ten or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just did some type of settle, So I'll get that for you, and then we'll bring.

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Speaker 3: In the eight.

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Speaker 1: But he's at nine and change about nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, again, I'm gonna say this, and I know budgets and this and that, but that's not a franchise killing move for one year because it's a one year thing.

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Speaker 1: And if that gets vaulted into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Or vaulting okay, not even into the playoffs, like the playoffs are tough in the National League, because just the National League is really hard anyways, But if at least it gets your fans excited. There's people coming to the ballpark excited. There's in Hey, we're in it until September. Maybe we don't make it. We win eighty five games or eighty three games, and we missed the playoffs by a few games. At least people are like, hey, the pirates are trying, and it buys you some trust.

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Speaker 2: It's a good call owner Bob Nutting, who controls the purse. Of course, go get one more piece, Go get esac paratus.

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Speaker 1: You will make that money back. I promise you.

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Speaker 2: You will make that money back in fans filling up seats. Yes, I think you will. They've had attendance issues. You could have a team that is in it for the entire year, like AJ said, even if they don't make the playoffs, in the mix for the whole year.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't happened in a while.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to stay with Michael again. This in about a week. You guys gotta shake it up. That'll be nice. I can't wait for him to sleep in the same room as me. You guys aren't doing that anymore, I know, thank god, because otherwise someone might not make it back from Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody on empty might not make it back.

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk more about spring training schedule at some point, maybe tomorrow. Let's keep rolling on this trade right now. With the Red Sox picking up Caleb Durban, I mean, when you see that headline this morning, that's a shocker.

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Speaker 3: Well just shocker because the Brewers, you know, I mean, I guess Hamilton is going to replace what Caleb Durban can do. But then you know the way the Jet Williams it's like, But then I guess they want Harrison really bad. I mean, Monastereo got some big hits for him, and they have one other big prospects bigger prospects.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fisher, there was either first round pick last year and he's going to play in the WBC.

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Speaker 1: You know they're waiting for those guys.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, you're trying to have the best record in baseball and make the playoffs again, and.

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Speaker 1: I think they are. And now have.

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Speaker 3: They any money in free agency? I know, I know, I know woodrift in his qualifying offer, but have they have they signed anybody in free agency? I don't think so. I was trying to look it up. I was trying to look it up before the show, and I don't think they have unless they made I thought they made a signing early early, and it was like, I know it wasn't Colin Ray, but it was like that type of like that type of like starter signing where it was like, Okay, I see where they're at, but it's not like replacing Freddy Peralta. I don't know. Scotty's better at that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe. So.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, woodrift and arbitration avoidance with Jake Bauers, but not that they.

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Speaker 3: Traded away a lot Freddy Parolta, a lot of Durbin Monasterio. These are guys that were like on their team, on their team. They're counting on Miserowski to be able to start for him, right, They're counting on Brandon woodrif hasn't been healthy gut I mean sadly in a long time for full season. I mean they're counting on guys Quinn Priester and some of these guys to have really great years that haven't done it multiple times in a row in a row. I mean last year they brought in Kintana, who helped them a huge amount. Right, they brought in Reez Hoskins, who say what you want. They brought in Rander Vaughan who went off to help them. They did britt make some moves last year to help them. They they made the trade for Durbin, so they last year they were doing things and this year it's like, okay, yes, I understand Jet Williams and some of the other things they've done, but they're not. At some point, you got to play in the big boy pool. We always say this, and right now the Brewers are not. And they've had success, so I can't knock them, but they haven't had that much success because this is the first year they won a playoff series in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Too.

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Speaker 3: Are they okay with just making the playoffs? Like that's my that's my thing. Are they okay with doing that? Because if that's the case, then you know what, man, they got this cool formula to make the playoffs. As a Brewer fan, like, yes, I am a fan of the Brewer or the organization, the people in the front office, the way everything's run, like it's cool. Stories, But how can you get rid of two guys who finished third and fourth in the National League and Rookie of the Year voting like, did they win it? No, they didn't win it. You know, Isaac Collins and Caleb Durbin are off this team. They were guys that personified what the Brewers are. Are they getting rid of them because it's max value? Okay, how many times can you keep hitting on that? How many times can you can? You have a team? Then they have their superstar. They have Jackson Churio. Can he stay healthy? Like he's still learning how to stay healthy and be a player in the game. Does Bryce Terrang take his August September and become an MVP candidate because he's got an elite glove. I don't know if he's got like that level. He's an All Star. So you have your pieces on the team. But the last few years, everyone's like, oh, they've done this. The last few years. They had Josh Hater, they had Devin Williams, they had Freddy Peralta, they had Corbyn Burns, they had all those guys throughout that time. It's a lot to put on the Miz. It's a lot to put on Big Wu to carry this team if you keep decimating it. Unless they really do find this value in Kyle Harrison and in Drohan in you know, in Hamilton, being that guy that steps in as the next piece. It's just it's tough to see as a brewer, as a fan of the brewers.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this team at the best record in baseball, they got dusted by the Dodgers, and you look at their off season and you're like, do they believe this is their winning window? Are they trying to play the percentages game of how many cracks can we get at the postseason and eventually it'll work.

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Speaker 1: They've been doing that for like a decade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's again, I'm going to say this and listen, the National League is really hard. Yeah right now, the way the National League is set up, it's really hard.

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Speaker 1: But they were the best record in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, But then I'll ask this. I know they didn't they like sweep the Dodgers in the regular season. The Dodgers just bounded them in the playoffs. Sure, right, They also lost the first four games the Torpedo bats and the Yankees lost the first four games like one hundred and six.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Murph made a joke about it in his speech, but being great in the regular season, and krat says this, there's regularly you know, he thinks there's regular season teams and there's playoff teams. Being great in the regular season if you don't win the World Series. And how many World Series have the Brewers ever won in their in their history of the Fair Chicks, how many times have they been to the World Series Once? Once nineteen eighty two, Harvey's Wallbangers lost to the Cardinals, So they haven't gotten to eighty two. Okay, that's we're forty four years from then.

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Speaker 1: They don't believe in the all in thing.

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Speaker 3: They do believe in all in, but they can only do what they're giving. I think Matt Arnold does a terrific job with what he's given to work with. He's like, h I just blanked on the guy in Seattle Poto. Yeah right. The Poto's given a budget and he tries to make all these moves to try to make them better, but he has to keep a certain budget. Right. It's kind of what the Rays did for so long. They're like, oh, we got to keep it around this payroll and they would flip guys here and there. The Brewers are trying to do that, and they've had success doing it, much like the Rays. The Race haven't won a World Series either, right, But eventually that bubble burst and then you almost got to start over with a new crew. Sorry, brew Crew, I didn't mean that was non intentional. That played well, but you have to start over with like a new crew, right.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what the Rays are going through right now?

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Speaker 3: The Rays are kind of going through it right now because also the American the yeast has gotten better, because Toronto now is really good. The Yankees are usually pretty good. The Red Sox went through a little lull. Now they're bring coming it back, right. The Orioles finally got it figured out a little bit, so now the Rays are like, man, shit, we got to do something different. So now they're trying something different, right. The thing with the Brewers are they've also caught. The Cardinals have been in a down right. The Pirates haven't been good for ten years. The Cubs have been they won in twenty sixteen, but since then they've kind of been meh. Right, So the division also was kind of lined up for him, where Hey Burns, pralta Woodrow, all these guys, I mean, Yellows is a year older. Yellows, you can't make it through a full year anymore. And it sucks because he's really good when he's out there, right, Controras is about at the end of his Brewer tenure. So then you're like, Okay, well, who are you counting on? And they keep making these trades, but at some point you're gonna have to hit on. You're gonna have to you have to hit on every single one of these.

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Speaker 1: They're becoming the race they can turn.

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Speaker 2: They're really good to stars and there's massive amounts of churn and it's causing them to be competitive every year. Like you said, how much of that has to do with all of this success in the organization and some of it to do with a very down division over.

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Speaker 3: The last But they're really good at it. They've done they've been successful, so you can't knock them, right, Yah, Donald has been really good at it.

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Speaker 1: It's just frustrating to not I don't think this is a front off.

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Speaker 2: But the ballpark probably packed. Yeah, Like you didn't make any extra money last year?

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Speaker 3: The ballpark was packed. Right. They beat the Cubs in five games in the DS, right, I mean they obviously they lost with Todgers, but I mean they I don't know what else you want if you're a Brewer, if you're a Brewers fan, Like they come back, they come to every game I do for Fox. There is packed, I mean not an empty seat in the place. And they're they're crazy, they go crazy, and they love their guys. They love their team.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: It's like the Bucks, Like they have the Bucks too, right in Milwaukee, right, so they have the Bucks really in the Brewers. Okay, Green Bay is not in Milwaukee, people, it's not. It's like two hours away, right, whatever, But they love those teams. I mean you walk around Milwaukee, you see Brewers stuff everywhere, and you see Bucks stuff everywhere. They support the heck out of that team.

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Speaker 2: Can I throw this out there because I think this is the comp I feel as if the Diamondbacks approach is a little more boom or bust, and then all of a sudden they end up, say twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Three in the World Series.

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Speaker 2: Right, they make some moves that it's like this is going to really work or this is going to be a disaster. I feel like the Brewers are super safe, so their ceiling I think is lower and their floor is higher. I'd rather be a Diamondbacks fan in terms of the way that the team looks at themselves. Right, there's some guys that you know, are going to be there for a while. It causes some continuity, you take some big risks, and some years you go through mini rebuild at the very least. And I think fans are okay with that if they felt like they had that all in push. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe you're just like I want my team to be good every year and be borderline or playoffs every year?

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Speaker 3: Would you rather have a team that makes the playoffs and never wins a World Series?

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Speaker 1: No question?

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Speaker 3: We're about to talk to the Ohios. What city is he in?

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Speaker 2: He is in Pittsburgh, Okay, no question. I want the team that's going for it. And then, okay, Mike Mike Tomlin just resigned. Ohios covered him.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin nineteenth straight years, never had a losing record, he won one super Bowl, okay, but the last I don't know how many every years since he won that super Bowl, they've been nine and eight, ten and six, but they lose in the first round every year. Would you do you want that team? The Atlanta Braves all those years they and all those division champions, they won one World Series? The Brewers the last how many every years have made the playoffs? Right? They were great guys were in the playoffs, let's go team and then they lose. It's like, or would you rather have the Diamondbacks won a World Series? I was twenty five years ago. Yeah, but they got to ask You got to ask a Brewers fan, not just a fan of baseball. Ok, you got to ask a Brewers fan, because they're exactly like I know we're gonna get to Noah, but they're exactly like what AJ said. Brewis fans are there. They support they support the Bucks, they support the Brewers, they support the loser players like me, just like they support the superstars like Yellye and Cheerio. Like they really delve into their team. So that question, I think has to be asked by that fan base. Do the Guardians won a World Series or just every other year in the playoffs type of type of run? Do the Brewers won a World Series? Or seven straight playoff runs where your heart gets b or seven of eight?

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Speaker 2: The Diamondbacks is a very recent example. It's twenty twenty three. They were in the National League. National League was pretty loaded, and they figured out a way to get through.

00:25:11
Speaker 3: So they had nunbelievab They first of all, they got hottest all hell fire and brimstone for that for those two weeks. Sure, the Phillies, the Phillies, they're down three to one. It never should have happened. And they just said, you know what, Phillies, We're just gonna throw you slider on every pitch. And their Phillies like, we've never seen one of those before. We forgot how balls, fastballs for balls in and sliders. I mean that was three straight games, that's all they did. Fastballs in ball, Oh, they're gonna throw me another one. Slider, slider, slider, oh, fastball. It was like and they couldn't beat them, and then they ran into the Rangers, who obviously took them down in the twenty three. But are you happier with that? Every one? Once every ten years you make a deep run to the World Series.

00:25:51
Speaker 2: It's not like you don't make the playoffs at all. Around that, I'm just saying, you have more variants. Have a few years where you're contender, you have a few years where you're not.

00:25:57
Speaker 3: So you'd rather just be Mike tom.

00:26:00
Speaker 1: No, no me.

00:26:01
Speaker 2: I want the Diamondbacks. That's my whole point. I want the ride. Give me the ride. Winter Time speed Round, lots of signings happening with veterans finding homes. Let's start with Paul Goldschmith from the Weekend one year, four million dollars back to the Yankees, two million dollars in additional plate appearance bonuses. His production fell off in the second half of the year. He raked overall against left handed pitching. This past season. Ben Rice should continue to have more of a role. He apparently turned down more money opportunities elsewhere aj so that he could fit in nicely again with the Yankees.

00:26:43
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the Yanks running it back.

00:26:46
Speaker 3: It's the same team. I mean, essentially they lost Weaver and Devin Williams. They made a couple of small tweaks, but it's literally the same exact team. And they can say it's not, but I think it's twenty three to the twenty six guys are back from that roster that finished the season last year with the Yankees.

00:27:01
Speaker 1: That's rare.

00:27:02
Speaker 3: Now you're adding now you're gonna add Garrett Cole at some point, which you will help, right And you added Ryan Weathers who will help you. But other than that, it literally is the same exact team. I mean, they didn't win ninety four games last year and they tied the Blue Jays and didn't win the division because they had to head but they did make the playoffs and did okay, So I don't know, it's just interesting to you see a team bring back twenty three of the twenty six guys.

00:27:27
Speaker 1: When they got bounced in the DS.

00:27:30
Speaker 3: They eat the Red Sox, though, did they get bounced because they weren't good enough or did they get bounced because in that series they weren't good enough. That's always gonna be the Red the Yankees, m I mean, even if you bring in different guys, they're still looking for the same archetype. So they might have a different name on their jersey. Well, they don't have any names on their jerseys because of the Yankees, but they might have a different name, but it's gonna be the same archetype. I still like this lineup. I don't I don't hate this lineup. I love that Paul Goldschmid's coming back. It came from the Cardinals, which have just a major deficiency in their analytic department when he was there, and he came to the Yankees, which is one of the most proficient, one of the most like giving you the information and Paul Goldschmidt is a very analytical like really dives into every little thing, so it shows he liked it. I don't hate this signing. Is Paul gold Schmid a Hall of Famer? Probably not for this session, but check the numbers.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: Out another time, another time. We don't have time. But for me, yeah, this should be a very strong, solid team. The blue Jays playoff team was better than the Yankees' playoff mix.

00:28:39
Speaker 1: I think that part's obvious, right.

00:28:41
Speaker 2: They won the same amount of games, so they were evenly matched in the regular season, but the Blue Jays looked like the better team. It was not like one of those like you actually the comp I mean, the Blue Jays and Dodgers were matched up as close as you can be with different strengths. And that's why that series was crazy. The DS series, and I know it's a short series, wasn't crazy. The Blue Jays looked like a better built playoff team. Yes, I don't think that's a I think that's the only take. I don't think anybody's looking at the Yankees like yep that they you know, they did that series over and over again.

00:29:10
Speaker 1: The Yankees win it more than the Blue Jays do.

00:29:13
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think it was like a small sample size thing, you know. But I run that series ten times. I think the Blue Jays win seven or eight of them.

00:29:20
Speaker 3: I think I think the Yankees, like I said, though, they're like, if they were gonna go out and make a move, they would have made a move to replace the guy that was, and it's gonna be a similar type of move. They're not just gonna all of a sudden shift. Well, the blue Jays beat us. They beat us in the regular season, Yeah, we finished with the same record, but they beat us in the playoffs. We got to shift over to what the Blue Jays did. No, they're just gonna keep doing what they do because they had the best offense in baseball, not you know, opinion wise, just statistically.

00:29:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm not knocking them, and I'm especially not.

00:29:55
Speaker 3: Not just saying it's the same thing.

00:29:57
Speaker 2: It's just an interesting storyline that they're running with these exact team. And if it was up to be I wouldn't do that, right, if you had the choice, you'd like I would prefer switching something up.

00:30:07
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they had the lane for that, right.

00:30:09
Speaker 3: We can switch it out, you'd upgrade a shortstop. I mean, everybody's real quick to jump on the Anthony Volpi trade. Everybody you know, Oh no, get him out of there, Get him out of there. I mean he's not evenna start the season. So you kind of have like a two piece shortstop. Yes, you guys can't play left field. Well, it took care of that. They brought bell in your back. I don't know that they thought Trent Grisham would accept the qualifying offer, or if they knew he would accept it. I think you're gonna see some aggression from him. He had a career year. But anybody hitting around Aaron Judge behind in front of you're just gonna get different pitches than you are when you're in a different lineup. So, like, I don't see where they would make the changes. I know, you can't just change to make a change. You got to make a change somewhere. So who you to bounce out?

00:30:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you you gave the layup to start the shortstop upgrade. But there there's nothing really out there in their minds. What wasn't really anyone out.

00:31:04
Speaker 3: There base Maybe they could have upgraded, but they like McMahon's defense right catcher. Maybe they could have upgraded, but who's out there nobody? Yeah, I mean base Yeah, But I mean it all depends on what you're looking for.

00:31:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are, but you are.

00:31:21
Speaker 3: Counting on Aaron Judge to just continue to be the best hitter we've seen in a long time, correct, Like you are just counting This lineup is just again, if Aaron Judge goes down for any amount of time, it's huge for this team.

00:31:32
Speaker 1: They're built around Judge, which is fine.

00:31:34
Speaker 3: I get it, because Aaron Judge is one of the top two hitters in baseball right now. So I I one hundred percent get it.

00:31:42
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:31:42
Speaker 3: So, but if he goes down, if he misses any sort of time, and then you know, you can count on Stanton missing times. Sucks as much as it sucks to say that. You know, Vulpi is what Vulty is at this point. I mean we're three three plus years into this now, so he's what he is.

00:31:57
Speaker 2: Most of the rosters just homer mashers. That's what you want, homer mashers. But is there enough? I don't want to get into like the classic like oh they need more contact. No, I mean the ideal is contact plus slug and that's what the Blue Jays had in the post Sauero.

00:32:12
Speaker 3: Is he going to start this year church stuff for him?

00:32:15
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean to me, that's what goes. Super utility guy is his role.

00:32:19
Speaker 2: But he's going to be the guy at least to start the season while Wolpee works his way back.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: The Yankees are going to be fascinating to me just because they need Rodan to come back for you don't have a good other good year? Probably what does what does he'll give him? Because he yeah he was mass Schlitzler. What does he do for him? For with a full year Will Warren? I mean, they have options Bednar closing for him for a full season.

00:32:41
Speaker 1: They've got arms.

00:32:42
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be fascinating just to see.

00:32:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to a few more here. Hey, their division got a little better. Nick Martinez has been a really solid pitcher in the bigs for a while now.

00:32:53
Speaker 3: And you got thirteen the ultimate Rays signing right here.

00:32:55
Speaker 1: Yep, thirteen million bucks.

00:32:56
Speaker 2: And guess what if the Rays aren't good at the trade deadline, they're only paying sixty percent of this contract. He gone, he's the if he's healthy, he is one of the easiest guys to deal away.

00:33:07
Speaker 1: He can do it all.

00:33:07
Speaker 3: So this is the perfect rate. He can start, he can relieve, he can close if they need him to.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: They want him to start. I think that was the agreement here to start the season. But that doesn't mean he doesn't get flipped.

00:33:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm saying, but he's done everything, so he can do it all.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: Great, good he is. It makes sense. That's an easy one.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: That's great. I love it. Thirteen million for him. Go go back and look at what other teams have paid, like fifteen and eighteen million per year, and you go. Nick Martinez is kind of nice, but other teams see him as that Swiss army knife. And I think he really wants to start. I think he wants to make thirty two starts.

00:33:46
Speaker 2: And if the race end up being bad at the deadline, he'll move around and he'll go to a team that can even if they put him in the rotation to eat innings, then in the playoffs they could move him to the swingman role. Like he's he's valuable. Remember he what he took the qualifying offer last year. He made about twenty one million bucks in twenty twenty five. Next up, Eric Vetti and the White Sox married again.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: One year contract, reunited and it feels so good. Sure League figured him out a little bit lately.

00:34:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, but last time they traded him for Miguel Vargas.

00:34:20
Speaker 1: Right, he was the centerpiece, you know.

00:34:24
Speaker 3: They traded him in copec to all over the place for Miguel Argus, who's turned into be you know, a player for the White Sox. He's in the lineup every day. So and the two A ball kids, I guess said, I don't know what happened to them, but I'm sure Justin in the chat will tell us how much we don't know the White Sox prospects. So fire away justin love you, Justin, Yeah, we love you, but fire away that we don't know every White Sox player in the organization. I apologize because there's twenty one other teams.

00:34:49
Speaker 1: But Baseball America Hotchiet tomorrow.

00:34:50
Speaker 3: They I do. Listen, this is a good depth signing for the White Sox, But I still want you still want Martin, and you still want Smith, and you still want some of the younger guys to Anthony Kaid to get their innings and then use fetti where you can for me, that's it.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: I will say Kratz Fetti is one of those guys where the league didn't love him, And yes they got Vargas in that deal, but remember he was rolling that year with the Era.

00:35:16
Speaker 1: But there's other peripheral numbers that didn't love.

00:35:18
Speaker 2: Him and stuff metrics and then you saw that play out last year with a five and a half RA He's probably somewhat in between that right back end starter.

00:35:29
Speaker 3: Good for the White Sox. Hopefully he's a guy that he feels comfortable in Chicago because he was there. They gave him that shot after he came after he came back overseas from overseas. But to me, this is a great signing because of the fact that he can add that veteran leadership to the guys that aj just mentioned, like if you want them to take the next step, you gotta You don't want them to struggle, You want them to hear about struggles, so they stay away from him from other guys, and I think Fetty's Fetty's a great guy in the sense that he was a top prospect. You know, everything looked golden peachy. Then he then he had to go. Then he had to go overseas to play. Now he came back and he had a good, good run. But it's like, hey, just because you see certain success, it's okay to be like, No, I'm not I'm not complacent. I'm not getting complacent. And I think that's what veterans in that locker room can do.

00:36:25
Speaker 1: And one more, Chris Paddock to the Marlins rotation depth.

00:36:31
Speaker 3: But I thought the Marlins had all the rotational pieces in the world because they.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: Traded away Weathers and Edward Cabrera.

00:36:41
Speaker 3: Remember somebody on somebody in the chatter on Twitter crushed us, crushed us. They have the best pitching depthitely And why did they Chris about it?

00:36:49
Speaker 1: That is so true. You need to.

00:36:50
Speaker 3: Crush for saying like, hey, Weather's in Cabrero expendable. Yes, yeah, we have so much pitching Marlins. Come on, guys, Sandy'll be gone too before too much longer.

00:37:03
Speaker 1: Agreed. If he pitches, well he gone.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: Yeah. But he signed with the Marlins because it's a big league deal. He probably wasn't getting a big league deal elsewhere. I don't know about that.

00:37:13
Speaker 2: I think Paddock, no, he was getting a big league deal. I think the big league deal might have been two or three million, and the Marlins are giving.

00:37:19
Speaker 1: Him four plus pitcher k incentives.

00:37:22
Speaker 3: Chris Paddick has not pitched well in a while. Look at the numbers.

00:37:24
Speaker 2: The Marlins always get about four million bucks to sign a guy like this. Cal Quantrell was what last year of the year before they get that one allowance in February.

00:37:32
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're begging your parents.

00:37:33
Speaker 3: For a loan and they're hoping he pitches well and they trade.

00:37:35
Speaker 1: Him correct so they'll pay half this.

00:37:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for Paddock, I mean, you're right, he hasn't put it all together in a while. But low walks guy still is like so is some stuff. He's always had good stuff, right.

00:37:51
Speaker 1: Gives up a lot of homers, gives up a lot of homers.

00:37:54
Speaker 3: Doesn't strike anybody out.

00:37:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, Corilla strikeout rate last year. Remember, traded to Detroit at the deadline. But what I recall, didn't pitch well there.

00:38:04
Speaker 3: No, he was even on the playoff roster. He wasn't even on them, he was.

00:38:09
Speaker 1: I don't remember him being there. I mean he was. Yeah.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: He made seven starts and five relief appearances for Detroit. With Minnesota, he made twenty one starts, had a just shy of five y plus was below league average, so back end inning Zeter hopefully pitch as well.

00:38:30
Speaker 1: This is a guy where Marlin's.

00:38:32
Speaker 2: I think they have the special sauce like the race because they stole some people from the race front office and they see if they can catch some fire with a fun loving guy in a clubhouse.

00:38:52
Speaker 1: Hey.

00:38:53
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, he was a lot of people in our sport. There's so many people connected to the game, and you know, we can't take to everyone all the time, but we do want to make sure we get a minute here for Tyron score. You know, gone way too freaking soon. Oh my gosh, stunning, devastating news over the weekend. It sounded like there was a surgery complication that wasn't supposed to be a complicated surgery, So just shocking, awful. You know, family was posting a little bit about it.

00:39:19
Speaker 1: People are like, what the hell happened?

00:39:22
Speaker 2: Thirty four years old, three time World Series champ, kind of your pinch runner, extraordinary super super athlete, crats Did you come across him?

00:39:32
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was there when he got called up in September and fourteen. I was there when he did all those rookie Shenanigans to twenty twenty four. We you know, we were, we were. We hung out a ton for the Royals reunion twenty fifteen, we did the caravan together like we played in nineteen together in Triple A as he was, you know, trying to come back or just always coming back through super unique career, incredible, huge human being. To see him come up as a rookie at twenty three years old and just be so green but be able to do something in the game of baseball that was at an elite level was something I still have never seen. I still have never seen. But the fact that like he's gone at thirty four years old, the fact that he you know, just was an incredible person an incredible like he just had this infectious personality. I watched a lot of since I heard the news. I watched a lot of different interviews from from him throughout the years with the different teams that he's been on, and he's just he truly and not just because he was he was a little guy and we called him g baby, but he's truly so thankful and just like a kid playing the game and he was just like, you ain't gonna throw me out there ain't no way. I think he was caught one time in the postseason, and that was on a replay. He stole third, he was safe, and the whole like, oh, his cleat just came off the base. I mean, just an incredible person. And I couldn't be sadder for Brittany and his three kids, like seeing them. It just, yeah, really hard news for me to get this weekend.

00:41:13
Speaker 2: Sorry for your loss and for everyone. Yeah morning, the loss of Tyron score awful.

00:41:18
Speaker 1: Awful. We're thinking about.

00:41:20
Speaker 2: The family and rest in peace, and we'll go out that way. We're back on Tuesday. Of course, Dodgers territory is running right now. Clinton, Katie Wu on that one, So if you want to flip over there, go for it.

00:41:32
Speaker 1: Otherwise, we will see you tomorrow. I believe Scott Boris will be joining us tomorrow on FT