America’s Most Righteous War Produced Its Best Anti-War Novel

Old School with Shilo Brooks

In Venezuela, a U.S. operation that captured President Nicolás Maduro has sent shock waves through the hemisphere. In Iran, a deadly crackdown on nationwide protests has Washington threatening the possibility of direct military action. Meanwhile, war rages on from Ukraine to Sudan. All this instability and conflict makes now a good time to revisit the most acclaimed anti-war novel in American history: Catch-22.

In this episode, Elliot Ackerman—a Marine Corps veteran and former CIA special operations officer—sits down with Shilo Brooks to unpack Joseph Heller’s classic satire, why it speaks so sharply to this moment, and how Americans have been shielded for the past few decades from the true costs of war. 

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2026-01-15 55 min

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