The Beastmaster (1982)

<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to the All Eighties Movies podcast podcast,
<v Speaker 1>where we talk about the blockbusters, love loves, and everything
<v Speaker 1>in between from one of the precious decades from movies,
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties. Her host Bill Bant. Along with you
<v Speaker 1>on this journey revisiting eighties movies is my co host
<v Speaker 1>Jason Massek.
<v Speaker 2>Hello, Jason, dar The gods have put that mark on you,
<v Speaker 2>and someday you'll find out why. Till then, this mark
<v Speaker 2>will be your guide. My sword and my copa will
<v Speaker 2>be your trusted companions, protect a email, your home, and
<v Speaker 2>if anything should happen to me, look for our enemies
<v Speaker 2>at the gems, and you may search for your destiny
<v Speaker 2>in the valley of a rook.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, listeners, we are discussing with spoilers. The Plenty
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen two fantasy adventure The Beast Master. It was
<v Speaker 1>produced by the Leisure Investment Company and distribed it by
<v Speaker 1>mgm UA Entertainment Company. The movie stars Mart Singer, Tanya Roberts,
<v Speaker 1>John Amos, and Rip Torn. Directed by Don Coscarelli, this
<v Speaker 1>movie is rated at PG with the running time of
<v Speaker 1>one hour and fifty eight minutes. Is loosely based on
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifty nine novel The Beast Master by Alice Norton.
<v Speaker 1>So what is this movie about? What's on the box?
<v Speaker 1>If you grow up the nineteen eighties and what's your
<v Speaker 1>local video store to rent this movie? You would find
<v Speaker 1>this description on the back of the VHS box. It
<v Speaker 1>is what's on the box? Take it away, Jason.
<v Speaker 2>Set in a wild and primitive world, The Beast Master
<v Speaker 2>is the gripping tale of a mythical hero engaged in
<v Speaker 2>a life and death struggle with overwhelming forces of evil.
<v Speaker 2>Filmed by Academy Award winning cinematographer John Alcott, it boasts
<v Speaker 2>spectacular sets, a topknot cast, and spine tingling action. Mark
<v Speaker 2>Singer stars as Dar, the sole survivor of a barbarian massacre.
<v Speaker 2>Determined to take his revenge. A golden warrior born with
<v Speaker 2>the courage of an eagle and the strength of a
<v Speaker 2>black panther, Dar must nevertheless face awesome enemies that threaten
<v Speaker 2>his destruction. At his side is Tanya Roberts, a heroic
<v Speaker 2>slave girl who battles the barbarians with a fervor equal
<v Speaker 2>to Dar's own. New horrors await them at every turn,
<v Speaker 2>a witch that crawls backwards across the ceiling. A race
<v Speaker 2>of cannibalistic Batman and rip torn as may Ax, the
<v Speaker 2>high priest of a fiendish cult, whom Dar must meet
<v Speaker 2>and destroy if he is to survive. Though far outnumbered,
<v Speaker 2>the forces of good are abetted by a supernatural secrets
<v Speaker 2>revealed to you in the heart pounding climax of the
<v Speaker 2>beast Master.
<v Speaker 1>Beast Master. So that was What's on the Box. Let's
<v Speaker 1>move on to our eighty snapshot as we highlight some
<v Speaker 1>of the creative forces from this movie. Jason, who do
<v Speaker 1>you have?
<v Speaker 2>I will tell you in just a moment. Bill Bant.
<v Speaker 2>First of all, it's just a pleasure to be doing
<v Speaker 2>this with you today. I'm really looking forward to this one.
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the What's on the Box segment,
<v Speaker 2>there is this supernatural secret revealed that is mentioned. What
<v Speaker 2>are they talking about? I have to ask you this
<v Speaker 2>because I keep reading this and I'm like, what is
<v Speaker 2>there something that I missed at the end of this movie?
<v Speaker 2>Was there a huge reveal?
<v Speaker 1>There is not. I have no idea, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just What's on the Box segment just threw
<v Speaker 2>me for a moment there, and I love that What's
<v Speaker 2>on the box synopsis up to that point through me
<v Speaker 2>for a loop. All right, all right, enough of that,
<v Speaker 2>Let's get into The beast Master a little bit. Starting
<v Speaker 2>with our eighties snapshot. I chose Mark Singer, of course,
<v Speaker 2>in the titular role of the beast Master aka Dar.
<v Speaker 2>Mark Singer's career goes back to the seventies when he
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of TV appearances, but getting right to
<v Speaker 2>his eighties. He did do five episodes of a show
<v Speaker 2>called The Contender nineteen eighty. He does a bunch of
<v Speaker 2>TV movies, a film called If You Could See What
<v Speaker 2>I Hear? That's in nineteen eighty two. He does this
<v Speaker 2>The beast Master in eighty two, then the other thing.
<v Speaker 2>He's most known for playing the role of Mike Donovan
<v Speaker 2>in a couple episodes of V in nineteen eighty three,
<v Speaker 2>then three more episodes as Mike Donovan in the series
<v Speaker 2>V The Final Battle in eighty four. He does three
<v Speaker 2>episodes of The Love Boat in eighty four, and of
<v Speaker 2>course the nineteen episodes of the actual TV series V
<v Speaker 2>from eighty four to eighty five. He does twelve episodes
<v Speaker 2>of Dallas in eighty six, then more episodic TV ranging
<v Speaker 2>from the Twilight Zone to murder She wrote in The
<v Speaker 2>Hitchhiker from eighty eight to eighty nine. He does reprise
<v Speaker 2>his role as Dar in bast Master two Through the
<v Speaker 2>Portal of Time in ninety one, and again in the
<v Speaker 2>ninety six TV movie sequel beast Master three The Eye
<v Speaker 2>of Braxis. He does the voice of man Bat in
<v Speaker 2>Batman the Animated Series for three episodes in nineteen ninety two,
<v Speaker 2>which I thought was interesting because it's kind of a
<v Speaker 2>callback to The Beast Master where we have some man
<v Speaker 2>bats he does, you know. Just after that a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of TV B movies. He shows up twenty two episodes
<v Speaker 2>of The Youngerman The Restless in ninety nine, and then
<v Speaker 2>reprises his role again as Dar or should I say
<v Speaker 2>Dartanis in six episodes of The beast Master TV show
<v Speaker 2>from two thousand and one to two thousand and two.
<v Speaker 2>He shows up in a TV reboot a V for
<v Speaker 2>an episode, just one episode in twenty eleven, but not
<v Speaker 2>as Mike Donovan, instead a new character named Lars Tremont.
<v Speaker 2>And that's all you really need to know, just a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of trivia. Mark Singer is the brother of
<v Speaker 2>actress Lori Singer. We know her from Footloose, of course,
<v Speaker 2>which we covered on this very pod. He's got a
<v Speaker 2>couple other siblings, brothers Claude Singer and Gregory Singer, and
<v Speaker 2>he is the cousin of director Brian Singer. Mark Singer
<v Speaker 2>is also black belt and kung fu, and along with
<v Speaker 2>a Jane Badler, he is one of only two actors
<v Speaker 2>to appear in both V from eighty four and VV
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and nine. That's Mark Singer for you.
<v Speaker 2>Who do you Got for your eighties? And Snapshot?
<v Speaker 1>I have co writer and director Don Coscarelli Junior, who
<v Speaker 1>was born in North Africa but was raised in southern California.
<v Speaker 1>At just nineteen years old, Coscarelli became the youngest director
<v Speaker 1>to have a feature film distributed by a major studio
<v Speaker 1>when The Jim, the World's Greatest and independently British Drama,
<v Speaker 1>was picked up by Universal Pictures. Don is best known
<v Speaker 1>for creating the cult horror classic Phantasm from nineteen seventy
<v Speaker 1>nine and its sequels, the series that earned him a
<v Speaker 1>lasting reputation in the genre. Phantasm was a highly imaginative
<v Speaker 1>and surreal freight thriller that marked Coscarelli's breakthrough in the
<v Speaker 1>horror world. In two thousand two, he directed the offbeat
<v Speaker 1>cult hit Boba Hoopetet, starring horror icon Bruce Campbell. The
<v Speaker 1>film features a bizarre yet memorable premise. Elvis Presley and
<v Speaker 1>a man claiming to be John F. Kennedy reside in
<v Speaker 1>a Texas rest home, where they must battle a three
<v Speaker 1>thousand year old cowboy mummy feeding on the souls of
<v Speaker 1>the elderly costco. Corelli's other works from the eighties include
<v Speaker 1>phantasand two from nineteen eighty eight and the adventure thriller
<v Speaker 1>Survival Quest from nineteen eighty nine, which starred Lance Hendrickson, Dermot,
<v Speaker 1>Marooney and Catherine Kinnear. That's writer director Don Cascarelli junior stuff.
<v Speaker 1>So this leads us to earliest memories. We're the earliest
<v Speaker 1>memories of beast Master. Now, Jason, I was super surprised
<v Speaker 1>to find out this is the first time you've seen
<v Speaker 1>beast Master, which I don't know how the hell that happened.
<v Speaker 1>That movie was on every day from eighty three to
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine on some sort of cable channel. How did
<v Speaker 1>you miss this movie? Please explain?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think super Surprised even covers it. It's
<v Speaker 2>absolutely one thousand percent extreme and wild that I never
<v Speaker 2>saw this, and that is a fact. I was searching
<v Speaker 2>my memory to try at least to remember some of
<v Speaker 2>the like snippets that I may have caught a clip
<v Speaker 2>here and there, and I must have come across it
<v Speaker 2>at some point and saw a scene or something, but
<v Speaker 2>I just never sat down and watched it in its
<v Speaker 2>entirety for some reason. So it really is one of
<v Speaker 2>those crazy, how the hell have I never seen this
<v Speaker 2>movie scenarios? But it's true. I mean, despite its incredible
<v Speaker 2>run on cable television and HBO, it got past me.
<v Speaker 2>It's all I can say. I was well aware of it.
<v Speaker 2>I knew what it was, I knew about the story
<v Speaker 2>somewhat loosely. I mean, it's pretty obvious, so I think
<v Speaker 2>I'd seen trailers for it, and I remember seeing images
<v Speaker 2>of Mark Singer looking totally ripped. I knew there was
<v Speaker 2>a hot lady in it. And speaking of which, it's
<v Speaker 2>one of those things. If I had recorded this way
<v Speaker 2>back when in the eighties on VHS, I would have
<v Speaker 2>worn the tape out, rewinding it and playing any scene
<v Speaker 2>featuring Tanya Roberts. But probably after seeing this movie today,
<v Speaker 2>I would have just rewounded and watched it a trillion times.
<v Speaker 2>I can see how watching this as a kid would
<v Speaker 2>have been an absolute blast. But honest, I never saw it.
<v Speaker 2>That's all I can say. I have no excuse Bill.
<v Speaker 1>Band Oh good, I guess.
<v Speaker 2>Bill bad is left speechless. It's insane.
<v Speaker 1>But hey, we finally got you to watch it, so
<v Speaker 1>that's all that.
<v Speaker 2>Matters, right. It only took forty years for me.
<v Speaker 1>My dad introduced me to this on cable on HBO,
<v Speaker 1>and I fell in love with it for the first time.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was one I did record on BHS
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why I needed to, because it
<v Speaker 1>was on so frequently. I mean, I would watch this
<v Speaker 1>movie over and over and over again. If I look
<v Speaker 1>back on the movies I watched in the eighties, the
<v Speaker 1>Beast Master would have to be in the top ten.
<v Speaker 1>And is it a quality movie like some of the
<v Speaker 1>others I watched. No, But it just had a lot
<v Speaker 1>of fun elements to it, and if it was on,
<v Speaker 1>I stopped what I was doing and would watch it.
<v Speaker 1>So thanks Dad. Darr for me was up there with
<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones and Luke Skywalker's how much I love that character,
<v Speaker 1>and it just had everything for me.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>It was a cable watch in between HBO and TBS.
<v Speaker 1>It was on all the time and there was no
<v Speaker 1>stopping me from watching it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great stuff, man, I totally see it. It
<v Speaker 2>makes complete sense. This is the kind of movie that
<v Speaker 2>just captures a boy's imagination, any young kids, teenager's imagination.
<v Speaker 2>It's just Taylor made for that. And also I love
<v Speaker 2>the idea of trying to figure out what eighties movie
<v Speaker 2>you watched the most on VHS as a kid. It's
<v Speaker 2>just great because for me, I believe probably the film
<v Speaker 2>I watched the most outside of Star Wars of course,
<v Speaker 2>would be Aliens. I think that's the one I watched
<v Speaker 2>the most. There was a summer I think I watched
<v Speaker 2>Aliens probably fifty times. Like it was something stupid, it
<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous. But I wished I had seen this now
<v Speaker 2>as a kid. But are we ready to get in
<v Speaker 2>some initial thoughts of the beast Master.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, let's get into it. What do you got?
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I just said this is Taylor made
<v Speaker 2>for like a boy's imagination because it's fantasy adventure, and
<v Speaker 2>I As I've said many times, love mythology and lore.
<v Speaker 2>Just in this movie is Conan the Barbarian meets Templa
<v Speaker 2>Doom meets Clash of Titans meets Doctor Toolittle and maybe
<v Speaker 2>a touch of manimal. But Bill bent this thing. I'm
<v Speaker 2>watching it for the first time. I'm like, this is
<v Speaker 2>just loaded. It's got an evil high priest, crazy f
<v Speaker 2>and witches, death Guard, the jun Horde, and cool animals
<v Speaker 2>and sword and sandal adventures, hot ladies, a ripped dude,
<v Speaker 2>a fun mythos origin story, a prophecy, and this background
<v Speaker 2>lore of far away lands. It's the chosen one who
<v Speaker 2>has the marketing or the special brand. It's the hero's
<v Speaker 2>journey to rescue the princess or in this case a
<v Speaker 2>slave girl or slash trove warrior. As we find out,
<v Speaker 2>it's got all the archetypes. So they really throw everything
<v Speaker 2>in this along with the Kitchen Sink. Is there any
<v Speaker 2>other film you want to throw in there that you
<v Speaker 2>can compare it to, either that it steals from or
<v Speaker 2>borrows from.
<v Speaker 1>So many movies Likeme Out in the early eighties with
<v Speaker 1>scantly clad women and warriors running around with their swords.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly right. We could just that's
<v Speaker 2>we should rename the genre instead of sword and sandal
<v Speaker 2>or sword and sorcery, it should just be buff dudes
<v Speaker 2>running around swords. So you know what else is really
<v Speaker 2>featured in this that we love, Bill Bant? Butt cheeks?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, tons, tons and tons of butt cheeks.
<v Speaker 2>Or more like side butt cheeks we get. We get
<v Speaker 2>a lot of loin cloth in this and you just
<v Speaker 2>get a lot of a lot of skin in this film.
<v Speaker 2>So the movie starts and I'm like, we got some
<v Speaker 2>strong music here right from the beginning from composer Lee Holdridge.
<v Speaker 2>Felt a little similar to the Battle Star galactic theme
<v Speaker 2>for me, but that's just me. It's still solid. Love
<v Speaker 2>it some good music to start with, and I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>we're off to a good start. And you know what,
<v Speaker 2>Bill Bant, it's always good to see John Amos's name
<v Speaker 2>in the credits, like with John Amos is in this,
<v Speaker 2>I love that guy, all right. Really off to a
<v Speaker 2>good start here. When the movie begins, we get some
<v Speaker 2>naked witches standing around a cauldron and I'm like, wait
<v Speaker 2>a minute, what are we watching here? We got some
<v Speaker 2>hot ladies right, you know, right off the bat until
<v Speaker 2>you see their faces, of course, and then they're these
<v Speaker 2>like horrifically gross witches. But I was like, I'm in. Basically,
<v Speaker 2>it had me sold right from the start. And I
<v Speaker 2>have to say, it's really funny because there's an appearance
<v Speaker 2>by the King in the beginning of this movie and
<v Speaker 2>his name is King Zed, and every time I heard
<v Speaker 2>the name Zed, I was like, I all think it
<v Speaker 2>was pulp fiction. And Bruce Willis sang Zed's dead baby,
<v Speaker 2>pretty f and creepy. Start with the witch cutting the
<v Speaker 2>unborn from the queen, but not really cutting it at all.
<v Speaker 2>It's actually a transference. It's transportation of top I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to get into detail with that, but I was just like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, where what is this movie all about?
<v Speaker 2>And it's the beast Master's origin story for the first
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes of the movie, and then we have our
<v Speaker 2>grown up dar played by Mark Singer for the following
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes, and I gotta say, Bill, I was in.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Mark Singer is a specimen. I mean, Jesus
<v Speaker 2>CHRISTE look at those thighs. He's tall, he's toned, is
<v Speaker 2>a sexy guy, less than zero body fat. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's inescapable. What do you think, Bill Bant, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>the guy's a stud.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he looks amazing in this. I didn't realize how
<v Speaker 1>ripped he was. Why wasn't he doing more actions movies
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. He looked great.
<v Speaker 2>One thousand percent, And I thought he was fine in
<v Speaker 2>this as an actor. You know, we're going to talk
<v Speaker 2>about the cosmetics of this because you got a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of hot people running around on loincloths. You don't want
<v Speaker 2>to be too superficial here. But I think he was serviceable.
<v Speaker 2>I think he was. Okay, he's not you know, Lawrence Olivier,
<v Speaker 2>but the park doesn't call for that kind of performance,
<v Speaker 2>nor does this story or movie. So anyway, he's really
<v Speaker 2>really good at doing the hero shots, and there are
<v Speaker 2>plenty of those in this movie. He's just walking around
<v Speaker 2>swinging that big sword, if you know what I mean
<v Speaker 2>the whole time, just kind of showing off his abs
<v Speaker 2>and his pecks and just standing basically not even fighting.
<v Speaker 2>He's just swinging the sword around like, oh, okay, I
<v Speaker 2>got it, we got it, you're good with the sword.
<v Speaker 2>We get a great yeah, self training montage while he's
<v Speaker 2>swinging that a lot, and by the way we get
<v Speaker 2>a lot of eagle screams in the beginning, and I
<v Speaker 2>was hoping to be able to do an eagle scream
<v Speaker 2>for this pod, but I still have to rehearse that.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I was talking about the fact that we
<v Speaker 2>just cover this right now, a lot of naked people
<v Speaker 2>running around or half naked people running around. I think
<v Speaker 2>this movie is pretty horny, but it could have been
<v Speaker 2>a lot hornier. And that's just a commentary I have
<v Speaker 2>kind of running through this whole thing. This movie is
<v Speaker 2>actually very violent as well. It's actually barbaric at points.
<v Speaker 2>We have a child sacrifice in this movie, Bill Bant.
<v Speaker 2>We have a supposed panther, but we know it's a
<v Speaker 2>tiger obviously, who mauls like a thousand people in this.
<v Speaker 1>Really he always just mauls the same person. It's technically
<v Speaker 1>the tiger's trainer. He's just in different costumes.
<v Speaker 2>A so true. But we get several maulings in this,
<v Speaker 2>but it could have been even more violent in the
<v Speaker 2>way that for the gore factor, there actually isn't a
<v Speaker 2>great deal of blood in this It's kind of a
<v Speaker 2>weird thing about this film. I did enjoy the action
<v Speaker 2>in this film, a lot. We get plenty of action sequences.
<v Speaker 2>Now I do have a minor complaint. Choreography was a
<v Speaker 2>little bit slow, wasn't paced quite correctly. You've got a
<v Speaker 2>lot of bad guys extras just kind of standing around
<v Speaker 2>waiting for their moment to attack. It's pretty obvious, and
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty funny. Still good action, you know overall. And
<v Speaker 2>yes I mentioned butt cheeks and here we go. We
<v Speaker 2>do get our eighties boobs in this and we have
<v Speaker 2>a nice waterfall scene when Tanya Roberts is introduced, and
<v Speaker 2>we got to talk about her, of course, and what
<v Speaker 2>can you say, Bill Bant, She's heavenly, She's an absolute
<v Speaker 2>smoke show, gorgeous, it's undeniable, beautiful eyes. He's a gorgeous woman.
<v Speaker 2>And again regarding her performance, fine, she doesn't have a
<v Speaker 2>lot to do. She doesn't. She's not really in much
<v Speaker 2>of the first hour of this film, which could be
<v Speaker 2>a major complaint if you wanted it to be. But
<v Speaker 2>she is in the latter half, and she's okay, doesn't
<v Speaker 2>Actually I wonder how many lines she has in this actually,
<v Speaker 2>now that I'm thinking about it. But fan Atanya Roberts,
<v Speaker 2>clearly rip torn is in this film. As our main antagonist,
<v Speaker 2>High Priest May acts. He's fun. Did you enjoy his performance.
<v Speaker 1>In this chewing up the scenery?
<v Speaker 2>Loved it, absolutely over the top, going for it. He
<v Speaker 2>does a lot of fantastic sideways glances in this. He
<v Speaker 2>gives a lot of side looks. He's never looking directly
<v Speaker 2>at people and built was I mistaken or does he
<v Speaker 2>have a giant nose prosthetic?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's some scenes you can obviously tell he's got
<v Speaker 1>something on the nose.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's great.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it looks great, but other times you just go, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's a prosthetic.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're clearly like, you're just not evil enough. We
<v Speaker 2>got to make it look work, so we're gonna give
<v Speaker 2>you this weird nose prosthetic the big bump on it. Anyway,
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned John Amos at the start, his actual real
<v Speaker 2>entrance in this film. I enjoyed a lot really giving
<v Speaker 2>off Little John from robin Hood vibes kind of with
<v Speaker 2>the quarter staff. And speaking of John Amos, the only
<v Speaker 2>reason why I love John Amos is because of Coming
<v Speaker 2>to America. I just love him so much in coming
<v Speaker 2>to America. Then I see him in this and like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>great to see him a lot of cool weapons in
<v Speaker 2>this This is you know again, I'm really kind of
<v Speaker 2>looking at this film, you know, watching it for the
<v Speaker 2>first time, almost with kind of very innocent point of view,
<v Speaker 2>maybe a childlike point of view, because I came into
<v Speaker 2>this with absolutely no expectations or maybe low expectations. So
<v Speaker 2>when I see when I mentioned like the Lord and
<v Speaker 2>the mythology, now I see these cool weapons, Like the
<v Speaker 2>priests have a cool gadget type of weapon. Dar inherits
<v Speaker 2>the Kappa. Is that what it's called Bill is a
<v Speaker 2>cape or Kappa from his adopted dad.
<v Speaker 1>It's capa.
<v Speaker 2>So you see the Kappa and you're like, wait a minute,
<v Speaker 2>isn't that the glove from Krull? But it's not. It's
<v Speaker 2>really cool though, and it's actually a I thought it
<v Speaker 2>was three blade. I think it's a four bladed weapon.
<v Speaker 2>But it folds in on itself and then you can
<v Speaker 2>unfold it. It's pretty cool boomerang type of weapon that's
<v Speaker 2>used throughout the film. Love the animals. I do love
<v Speaker 2>the animals. We get ru the black panther. We've got
<v Speaker 2>our lovely I should say, lovable ferrets. What were their names?
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Coto and Podo the thieving ferrets, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like, after this, I gotta get ferret as a pet.
<v Speaker 1>No, you don't want ferrets as a pet. I had
<v Speaker 1>a roommate that had a ferret as a pet. Those
<v Speaker 1>things smell and bite.
<v Speaker 2>Well, there goes that dream. Thanks a lot, build Band.
<v Speaker 2>And the eagle is totally bad ass in this and
<v Speaker 2>all the animals seem to get cool names, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like, wait a minute, the eagle is the most
<v Speaker 2>bad ass. Why doesn't he you have a name or she?
<v Speaker 2>And then I see in the research the name is Sharrak.
<v Speaker 2>Was that mentioned in the film. I didn't hear that
<v Speaker 2>at all.
<v Speaker 1>I did the same thing when I saw the name.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait a second, when does he name the eagle?
<v Speaker 1>And I go back and watch it. No, that didn't happen.
<v Speaker 1>I think it was named in the sequel, So it's retrove.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that totally makes sense. All right. I'm an hour
<v Speaker 2>into this movie and I couldn't believe it, Bill Band,
<v Speaker 2>I was still really digging it. I pretty much dug
<v Speaker 2>this film through the whole way. And now we do
<v Speaker 2>have to talk about the overall total running time, which
<v Speaker 2>is close to two hours and I was like, that's
<v Speaker 2>way too long for this. It's just too long for
<v Speaker 2>this movie. This film should have never been two hours.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I still enjoyed it. I'll say this, it
<v Speaker 2>was about twenty minutes too long for me. And this
<v Speaker 2>is a spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the film.
<v Speaker 2>But once our antagonist is oft Mayax the High Priest dies,
<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, well, this is it. Time to roll
<v Speaker 2>the credits, and it goes on for another twenty minutes.
<v Speaker 2>You're like, what is happened? But as aforementioned, this movie
<v Speaker 2>just has a blend of great genres that appeal to me,
<v Speaker 2>to my sensibilities. It steals from a lot of other
<v Speaker 2>good eighties B movies and maybe other eighties movies to
<v Speaker 2>come after this stole from this. I don't know, but
<v Speaker 2>I was along for the ride. I'm not going to
<v Speaker 2>give my official rating our All Eighties Movies podcast official
<v Speaker 2>rating here, but I'm just gonna say I thought this
<v Speaker 2>was a great B movie and I was really pleasantly surprised.
<v Speaker 2>I'd even maybe give it an as It's not perfect
<v Speaker 2>by far. We'll get into it, but I'll just say
<v Speaker 2>it really worked for me. I had a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 2>What are your initial thoughts.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for me, eleven year old is given this five stars.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it has everything. We have sword fights, We
<v Speaker 1>have strange creatures that turn people to go bat people
<v Speaker 1>or bird people whatever they are. I still don't know
<v Speaker 1>what they're called, but they're cool. Yeah, quicksand eighties quicksand
<v Speaker 1>I love eighties quicksand gotta have it. That's awesome, of course,
<v Speaker 1>topless Tanya Roberts and you are that age Holy Molly.
<v Speaker 1>And then the glow in the dark SETI eels making
<v Speaker 1>people in the desk guards ere the death guards themselves,
<v Speaker 1>just crazy people running around with helmets and those spike gloves.
<v Speaker 1>We have our witches, which is with the bodies of
<v Speaker 1>a ten and faces of a negative seventeen. Those things
<v Speaker 1>are freaky get hot. At the same time, we have
<v Speaker 1>a ring with an eye in it, a real eye.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and that thing always freaked me out. Of course,
<v Speaker 1>the cool animal companions. I don't think I ever knew
<v Speaker 1>what ferrets were until I saw them in this movie.
<v Speaker 1>And then we have an eagle, and then I'll be honest,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize it was a tiger at first. I
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a panther until probably my relatives mentioned
<v Speaker 1>it during a holiday gathering that they couldn't believe they
<v Speaker 1>painted the tiger black. What are you talking about? And
<v Speaker 1>now watching this, it's so damn odious? How did I
<v Speaker 1>miss that as a kid? But I still enjoyed it.
<v Speaker 1>But I agree with you it's a little long. There
<v Speaker 1>are way too many close up shots and like you said,
<v Speaker 1>the hero shots, you could probably cut those in half. Sure,
<v Speaker 1>And yes, the double ending is strange, and I think
<v Speaker 1>what doesn't work is we don't really know who the
<v Speaker 1>true baddie is. Nice because you really start with Mayax
<v Speaker 1>and then we're introduced to the Guns and then you
<v Speaker 1>find out the two of them were working together, so
<v Speaker 1>it's who was really in charge? Was it Mayax or
<v Speaker 1>the Jones? And then one gets taken out and you go, okay,
<v Speaker 1>movie over, But no, the genes are still coming. You
<v Speaker 1>got to defend ourselves against that. So there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>going on. But I do like the fact, and especially
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, because you're getting introduced to so many
<v Speaker 1>characters with names that are simple enough.
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree more for you.
<v Speaker 1>To remember dar Kirie, Mayax, Seth Tall, so they're easy
<v Speaker 1>to remember. You can keep track of everything. I still
<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it. It's the length that it's kind of
<v Speaker 1>an issue. But I wouldn't go back and go all right,
<v Speaker 1>do I need to take out scenes?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>I just think you need to take out shots. It
<v Speaker 1>just runs a little too long.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't agree more. You're spot on. That's the
<v Speaker 2>problem is you're confused a little bit as to which
<v Speaker 2>bad guy you're supposed to be invested in. And when
<v Speaker 2>we're introduced to the gun Horde that kills or wipes
<v Speaker 2>out and decimates Dars village in the beginning, you're like, oh, well,
<v Speaker 2>here's the clear villain. We'll probably be introduced to the
<v Speaker 2>leader or the chieftain of the gun Horde, but we're not. Instead,
<v Speaker 2>we're more exposed to or shown the evil high priest
<v Speaker 2>in Mayo's played but may Ax played by rip Torn.
<v Speaker 2>But then at the end, after Mayax's death, I understand
<v Speaker 2>why the film is extended to include the gen Horde
<v Speaker 2>battle because this then wraps up dars revenge, right. We
<v Speaker 2>need to see him overcome the gung Horde because they're
<v Speaker 2>the ones that killed, you know, his adopted father and
<v Speaker 2>wiped out his village. So I understand why they did that,
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't show us enough of the GHN Hoard
<v Speaker 2>characters or that chieftain throughout the film to care about
<v Speaker 2>him at all or know him at all. So then
<v Speaker 2>when he is introduced, because we have a major one
<v Speaker 2>on one battle between Darr and the GHN Horde chieftain,
<v Speaker 2>we're like, oh, I'm supposed to know this guy or
<v Speaker 2>think he's a total badass or a really bad bad dude,
<v Speaker 2>and now root for Dar to overcome and for this
<v Speaker 2>chieftain to get his come up, and but I'm just
<v Speaker 2>not invested, so I didn't care.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's almost you're introduced to our initial battie, which
<v Speaker 1>we think is Mayax, and then we're deduced to the
<v Speaker 1>Juns and they wipe out the village. So now Dar
<v Speaker 1>the beast Master, is on a quest for revenge. Then
<v Speaker 1>we pivot back to Mayx. It was almost like a
<v Speaker 1>side quest on his initial quest because he doesn't even
<v Speaker 1>know what Mayx had done to him. Correct and there
<v Speaker 1>is a scene where Mayax and the Genes seem like
<v Speaker 1>they're working together, but it's not explicit enough. They couldn't
<v Speaker 1>explain that a little bit better.
<v Speaker 2>It's confusing. It's confusing because you're led to believe that
<v Speaker 2>Mayax is maybe the leader of the Jones at this
<v Speaker 2>point or is working alongside them, but then they're separate
<v Speaker 2>entities and it's I don't know, I don't know. So yeah, anyway,
<v Speaker 2>we can move on.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but credit to the movie for being fun enough
<v Speaker 1>that it isn't deterring the enjoyment of the movie.
<v Speaker 2>Correct. It didn't ruin it by any stretch of the imagination.
<v Speaker 2>It didn't ruin it for me. It didn't take me
<v Speaker 2>out completely. I still thoroughly enjoyed this, So let's move on.
<v Speaker 1>Correct. Okay, let's move on to our favorite scenes or moments. Jason,
<v Speaker 1>what do you got four favorite scenes or moments from
<v Speaker 1>the Beast Master?
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do it. I always like to start
<v Speaker 2>from the beginning, so I'm going to start with my
<v Speaker 2>first scene being the weird baby trance for Slash Transportation.
<v Speaker 2>At the very beginning of this film, we're like in
<v Speaker 2>the basement chamber of I believe it's supposed to be
<v Speaker 2>like the Temple of r in the city of Aruk.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we're like in the basement of this temple.
<v Speaker 2>We're introduced to our antagonist may Ax, who's this evil
<v Speaker 2>high priest, and we get these witches surrounding a cauldron.
<v Speaker 2>They look into the cauldron and we get our prophecy,
<v Speaker 2>and the prophecy is that the unborn child of the
<v Speaker 2>King and Queen will one day grow up to be
<v Speaker 2>the end of Mayox. The unborn son will grow up
<v Speaker 2>to end up killing Mayax. I keep saying, Mayox, it's Mayax,
<v Speaker 2>and so of course evil high priests. Mayax says, well,
<v Speaker 2>can't have that, So we got to go cut out
<v Speaker 2>the unborn son from the queen's belly. Well that sounds
<v Speaker 2>pretty freaking brutal. And of course King Zed walks in
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, well, nope, I'm not going to stand
<v Speaker 2>for that. You're banished. You're going to go to the
<v Speaker 2>outlands and live with the Horde the juns. So on
<v Speaker 2>his way out, we know that Mayax one of the
<v Speaker 2>witches off to the side and kind of gives one
<v Speaker 2>of his sideway glances, and the witch takes this to
<v Speaker 2>know that the mission is to get the unborn son.
<v Speaker 2>So cut to later that night, I believe, the witch
<v Speaker 2>goes into the Queen and King's tent and starts this
<v Speaker 2>really strange ritual pours some neon liquid over the necks
<v Speaker 2>of both the king and the Queen. They awaken, but
<v Speaker 2>they can't say anything. They're screaming, but that you can't
<v Speaker 2>hear them. They're not audible, so that we know obviously
<v Speaker 2>this liquid had some sort of magical power to silence them.
<v Speaker 2>And then the Witch does some weird circling with her
<v Speaker 2>hand over the queen's belly, and there's some cool makeup
<v Speaker 2>slash special effects here where you see the child within
<v Speaker 2>her belly kind of pushing outward and pressing the skin outward,
<v Speaker 2>which is really creepy. But here's the weirdest thing is
<v Speaker 2>the witch isn't alone. The Witch brought a giant white bull.
<v Speaker 2>So there's a bull standing off to the side while
<v Speaker 2>this is going on, and the film cuts back and
<v Speaker 2>forth between her swirling her hand over the queen's belly
<v Speaker 2>and the child pressing outward to the belly of this bull,
<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of glowing, and then all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>the child is gone from the belly and we are
<v Speaker 2>to assume it has now been transported into the belly
<v Speaker 2>of this bull. And I was like, what this movie
<v Speaker 2>is not just going to be this typical sword and
<v Speaker 2>sandle thing. This is you know, we're dealing with some
<v Speaker 2>real fantasy and fantastical stuff here, but it's weird. So
<v Speaker 2>I think we're led to believe here that the queen
<v Speaker 2>dies in this moment in this process, and the King
<v Speaker 2>is left screaming and torment but can't is paralyzed. So
<v Speaker 2>cut to now clearing in the forest somewhere. The witch
<v Speaker 2>has brought the bull to this area and slices the
<v Speaker 2>bull's belly open and out comes the chosen one, the baby,
<v Speaker 2>And now she is going to sacrifice this baby. She
<v Speaker 2>specifically has to perform this step by step process where
<v Speaker 2>she brands the baby, which is horrific. She burns a
<v Speaker 2>marking into the baby's hand and then raises an knife
<v Speaker 2>to slaughter the child. This is all being done in
<v Speaker 2>front of a like a campfire, nice little camping, a
<v Speaker 2>little fireside chat with this baby, and it's not looking
<v Speaker 2>good for the child. Off to the side, a villager
<v Speaker 2>happens to be walking by witnessing this evil, old haggard
<v Speaker 2>witch about to slaughter this kid, and the villager becomes
<v Speaker 2>the hero and pulls out this Kappa weapon, this glave
<v Speaker 2>style weapon, throws it at the witch, stabbing her in
<v Speaker 2>the back, and that doesn't stop her. They ensue in
<v Speaker 2>a fight and the witch disappears, and it's really kind
<v Speaker 2>of a strange fight where she uses a force push
<v Speaker 2>at one point. Basically the villager, this gentle old fellow,
<v Speaker 2>then has vanquished this witch and now is in possession
<v Speaker 2>of the child and has become its adopted father. So
<v Speaker 2>that's it. It's just really wild, Bill, because of the
<v Speaker 2>way that the baby is transported. We watched this, it's
<v Speaker 2>really I think it's actually quite well done, but it's
<v Speaker 2>just really strange. But the idea is that we also
<v Speaker 2>know now how dar gets his supernatural ability to be
<v Speaker 2>able to communicate with the animals, to talk to animals,
<v Speaker 2>to see through their eyes and vice versa, is because
<v Speaker 2>he was born of an animal. He was born of
<v Speaker 2>a bull. That's cool, this is his origin story, but
<v Speaker 2>it gives you kind of a real ick feeling because
<v Speaker 2>the way it's laid out. What are your thoughts on
<v Speaker 2>this opening scene.
<v Speaker 1>I find the scene very disturbing. I remember watching as
<v Speaker 1>a kid the first time and turning to my dad
<v Speaker 1>and going what is happening, and my dad just kind
<v Speaker 1>of has that. How am I going to explain this
<v Speaker 1>to my son? Look, it gets me every time I
<v Speaker 1>really feel for the queen when this is happening, it
<v Speaker 1>gets very intense for me. I don't like watching the scene.
<v Speaker 1>And then the fact that this witch was going to
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice the baby, right, and here comes Dara's adopted father
<v Speaker 1>and we see the kPa and throws it into her back.
<v Speaker 1>And then the witch was kind of stupid because she
<v Speaker 1>should have just killed Dar's adoptive father. No problem. She
<v Speaker 1>plays with him where she just arms him, but lets
<v Speaker 1>the sword drop right in front of him and he
<v Speaker 1>just picks it up and stabs her in the chest.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh me, pow are scaling issues here.
<v Speaker 1>And then disperses her into the fire and then she
<v Speaker 1>gives that creepy laugh like she was happy she got killed.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, but it explains the origin the beast Master,
<v Speaker 1>why the beast Master became what he was, what is important.
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely a reason why they probably should have made
<v Speaker 1>the movie PG thirteen, even though we didn't have PG
<v Speaker 1>thirteen back then. But that would definitely be a scene
<v Speaker 1>to justify that rating.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and yeah, so I chose as a favorite
<v Speaker 2>scene because I think it's weird, cool, it is disturbing.
<v Speaker 2>It was unexpected. I was surprised by it as like, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so I kind of liked that aspect of it. I
<v Speaker 2>do think it's fun. I forgot that the witches do
<v Speaker 2>that cackling when they pull an obi wan kenobi and
<v Speaker 2>they're like they disappear and the falls to the ground
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. My complaint with this, and yeah, definitely
<v Speaker 2>stepping on complaints here for myself, is that in the
<v Speaker 2>opening sequence under the Temple, in the basement chamber with
<v Speaker 2>the cauldron and the prophecy, Mayax literally walks up to
<v Speaker 2>the king and says to his face that he's going
<v Speaker 2>to cut out the unborn son of his wife love
<v Speaker 2>the queen to stop this prophecy from being fulfilled, and
<v Speaker 2>the king only banishes him. Why does the king not
<v Speaker 2>just put him in chains right there or put him
<v Speaker 2>to death right in that very moment? Right this guy
<v Speaker 2>just threatened to cut a child out of your wife's belly,
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, Okay, you have to leave the city.
<v Speaker 1>That's the punishment, And then they escort Mayax out and
<v Speaker 1>leave the witches there. Hello, they're in on this too.
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't they be escorted out?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not a perfect scene, but it's fun. What do
<v Speaker 2>you have? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>For me, one of my favorite scenes is the John
<v Speaker 1>attack on Emar, and this is where Dar ends up
<v Speaker 1>growing up, and you know, he's adopted by Dar's father,
<v Speaker 1>whose name we never learn. So Dar and the younger
<v Speaker 1>villagers are out tilling the fields and all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 1>this really bad composite of a dust ball is coming
<v Speaker 1>over the hills and Dar knows it's the Juns. We
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what the Jardans are. And they start
<v Speaker 1>streating back to Humor to try to help with the fight,
<v Speaker 1>and they get there too late. All the Juns show
<v Speaker 1>up outside the village of Vmar, and the village is
<v Speaker 1>a small circle with all the huts are suspended on stilts,
<v Speaker 1>very high in the air. And the Juns show up
<v Speaker 1>and we see Dar's father, You're still there in the
<v Speaker 1>village and he knows right away the guns are here
<v Speaker 1>that they meet business, and he gets a sword and
<v Speaker 1>walks out to the front entrance, and I love he
<v Speaker 1>makes the line the.
<v Speaker 2>Dirt, literally drawing a line in the sand.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, if you cross this line, we're going to
<v Speaker 1>kick your butt and here come the juns and the
<v Speaker 1>guns just truck them. There's no resistance whatsoever at that point.
<v Speaker 1>But I have to get the villagers of Niemer some credit.
<v Speaker 1>They did put up a good fight even though the
<v Speaker 1>guns come in and basically slaughter everyone. The people Emar
<v Speaker 1>were fighting back as best as they could with the
<v Speaker 1>limited resources that they had. Then Dar and the younger
<v Speaker 1>villagers come in and they joined the fight, but they're
<v Speaker 1>still overmatched. And there's a great moment when Dar gets
<v Speaker 1>knocked out and he's lying there and Dar has this
<v Speaker 1>dog named Toto with a d not Toto, and Toto
<v Speaker 1>grabs Dar and starts pulling him out of the village.
<v Speaker 1>And at one point when the guns sees this and
<v Speaker 1>shoots the dog, and the dog stops briefly and keeps
<v Speaker 1>pulling Dar with an arrow in his side. So that
<v Speaker 1>was impressive. I mean, granted, Dar was probably getting a
<v Speaker 1>little additional help. You can tell if you watch the
<v Speaker 1>foot as closely that he's just getting pulled by something
<v Speaker 1>else besides the dog. But overall, watching the destruct in
<v Speaker 1>the village, it was cool. I thought it was a
<v Speaker 1>good battle scene. Then later on Dar wags up goes
<v Speaker 1>to the village. Everybody's dead, a lot of them were
<v Speaker 1>impelled on poles. And then Dar constructs a funeral pyre
<v Speaker 1>where he takes all the villagers and puts them in
<v Speaker 1>the shape of the village symbol, a circle with the
<v Speaker 1>diagonal slash, takes his dog, puts it in the arms
<v Speaker 1>of his adoptive father, and then sets it a flame
<v Speaker 1>and then decides to go off to seek his revenge.
<v Speaker 1>So good opening. Actually the scene for me.
<v Speaker 2>One thousand percent on that one. I totally agree. I
<v Speaker 2>was saying it to myself while watching it. I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>this is some pretty good action. It exceeded my expectations.
<v Speaker 2>I had low expectations or no expectations, and I was like,
<v Speaker 2>pleasantly please. I was like, this is some good action.
<v Speaker 2>Some of the cinematography here a shout out again to
<v Speaker 2>John Alcott, because when Darr and his fellow villagers while
<v Speaker 2>they're all like working the fields in the distance and
<v Speaker 2>they see the horde approaching and they have to run
<v Speaker 2>back to the village, don't get there in time, there's
<v Speaker 2>some great sweeping like landscape shots and you're like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>they are not close to the village. At first, You're
<v Speaker 2>like they should get there in time. They're like, oh no,
<v Speaker 2>but so some really cool shots of them having to
<v Speaker 2>run a really long distance across these fields to get
<v Speaker 2>back to the village. But you're right, nice to see
<v Speaker 2>the villagers fighting back. Get some real Vlad the Impaler
<v Speaker 2>vibes afterward, with all these poor souls impaled on these posts.
<v Speaker 2>But love the dog, Love the dog, yes, not happy
<v Speaker 2>about his death, don't don't kill the dog right off
<v Speaker 2>at the start here come on, really cool dog funny
<v Speaker 2>moment dragging a Dar out of the burning You were right,
<v Speaker 2>there's because there obviously there's some people off screen pushing
<v Speaker 2>Dar to help, you know, to make it look like
<v Speaker 2>the dog is dragging him across the sand or the dirt.
<v Speaker 2>But there's one moment when the dog actually stops pulling Dar,
<v Speaker 2>but Dar keeps moving along, sliding across the ground. You're like, oh, okay, whoops,
<v Speaker 2>it's really kind of funny. But the other moment I
<v Speaker 2>wanted to call out is a really cool idea where
<v Speaker 2>Dar managed to get one of the shields away from
<v Speaker 2>the John Horde. And there's somebody I think, on horseback,
<v Speaker 2>a bad guy on horseback that shoots an arrow at
<v Speaker 2>him and it goes through the shield. So he then
<v Speaker 2>this is dar flips the shield around so the arrowhead
<v Speaker 2>is facing outward when the jun attacks him and he
<v Speaker 2>falls backwards and the gun leaps on top of him,
<v Speaker 2>and then of course impales himself on the arrow sticking
<v Speaker 2>out of the shield. I thought that was really cool. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>then he just drives it into his right, he thrusts
<v Speaker 2>it through. I was like, that's a cool idea for
<v Speaker 2>the fight choreography, and it's it's interesting now when we
<v Speaker 2>are just so like spoiled with John Wick movies and
<v Speaker 2>you think, man, how are they going to come up
<v Speaker 2>with more original, fresh choreography. I mean, if you're a
<v Speaker 2>fan of any kind of kung fu movies, you see
<v Speaker 2>it all the time. You're like, how are you going
<v Speaker 2>to show me something new? So I thought that was
<v Speaker 2>a cool move I hadn't seen before in this type
<v Speaker 2>of movie.
<v Speaker 1>All right, what do you have next? Four favorite scene
<v Speaker 1>or moment?
<v Speaker 2>All right, I've got the weird side adventure with the
<v Speaker 2>what I call Mimic creatures, because these weird bat slash
<v Speaker 2>men or bird men reminded me of the creatures from
<v Speaker 2>the film Mimic starring Mirisovina, which now I need to
<v Speaker 2>see again. I kind of like that movie that's kind
<v Speaker 2>of a cult never seen, a weird called classic for me.
<v Speaker 2>You should check it out. It's not bad, gonna have
<v Speaker 2>to no great. Yeah, they look very similar, very very creepy.
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I actually thought the costume design here
<v Speaker 2>was excellent. Why I'm mainly why I'm choosing the scene.
<v Speaker 2>So during his travels, Darr has just met We have
<v Speaker 2>our meat cute between Darr and a slave girl, Kiri
<v Speaker 2>played by Tanya Roberts. They have a little bit of
<v Speaker 2>a back and forth. Nothing much comes of it. She's
<v Speaker 2>got to go back to the city of Arup because
<v Speaker 2>she's a slave and she if she'd gone too long,
<v Speaker 2>that's not gonna be good for her. Dar moves on
<v Speaker 2>with his trusty sidekicks, his animals Shahrak, Koto, Poto, and Rue.
<v Speaker 2>He decides to actually follow Kiri instead of going off
<v Speaker 2>on some other path. As he's about to go after Kiri,
<v Speaker 2>night falls and it's getting kind of foggy and creepy,
<v Speaker 2>and he looks upward to see a top of a cliff.
<v Speaker 2>There's a grouping of trees with these hanging orbs of light,
<v Speaker 2>and he goes to do a little recon check it out,
<v Speaker 2>and now it's night. It's super creepy. He comes upon
<v Speaker 2>this clearing with these like circle of trees. There's a
<v Speaker 2>giant tree at the center of it, and hanging from
<v Speaker 2>one of the tree branches is this wooden cage and
<v Speaker 2>there's a male prisoner inside of it. So this setting
<v Speaker 2>is a little ominous. Let's just say that is little foreboding.
<v Speaker 2>And there's also a cauldron here. As it turns out,
<v Speaker 2>we get Dar walking over to the cauldron and Rue,
<v Speaker 2>his trusty black panther, is with him. It's kind of
<v Speaker 2>funny moment where he does a little taste test. He
<v Speaker 2>dips the ladle into the cauldron and has Rue try
<v Speaker 2>to taste it. I don't think Ru even takes the
<v Speaker 2>taste of it, just smells it and backs off and
<v Speaker 2>we look into the Yeah, not having this. Why would
<v Speaker 2>you want me to drink from this cauldron? What are
<v Speaker 2>you doing?
<v Speaker 3>Dark?
<v Speaker 2>Come on, love you, but I'm not tasting that. And
<v Speaker 2>Dar looks back into the cauldron and a severed head
<v Speaker 2>rises to the surface of the liquid within the cauldron.
<v Speaker 1>Not good.
<v Speaker 2>Then Dar turns around and all of a sudden, these tall, leathery,
<v Speaker 2>winged sort of creatures have appeared. They're just kind of
<v Speaker 2>standing very still, very stoic, and there's several of them
<v Speaker 2>in a few rows, and they're silent. It's hard to
<v Speaker 2>describe these creatures. They're very tall, they're almost featureless outside
<v Speaker 2>of these just kind of a leathery appearance. They don't
<v Speaker 2>have any hair. You can just see their eyes really,
<v Speaker 2>so it's very creepy. Dar Freeze the prisoner from the cage.
<v Speaker 2>The prisoner tries to escape, running through the rows of
<v Speaker 2>these creatures, and one of the creatures, this is a
<v Speaker 2>really scary moment, whips its arms open and that's when
<v Speaker 2>you realize that they're these sort of bat like winged
<v Speaker 2>creatures and envelops this male prisoner, and you just see
<v Speaker 2>the prisoner writhing within this the grasp the grip of
<v Speaker 2>this creature, and you hear his screams, they're muffled screams.
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, from beneath the wings
<v Speaker 2>at the feet of the creature, you see this green
<v Speaker 2>goo coming out, and you know, oh, that's not good,
<v Speaker 2>not good for this prisoner. He's basically being dissolved within
<v Speaker 2>the wings, and you can pretty much assume this bird
<v Speaker 2>man creature is eating the first that's how they are feeding.
<v Speaker 2>Then the winged creature opens up its wings, giant wings man,
<v Speaker 2>and just the bones of this man fall to the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Not good. So now it's time for Dar to face
<v Speaker 2>these creatures. And he's got his giant sword and Rue
<v Speaker 2>is standing at his side. There's several of these things.
<v Speaker 2>How's Dar going to defeat these things? But guess who
<v Speaker 2>shows up? Sharrak the eagle, which is awesome, and the
<v Speaker 2>creatures look up to see this eagle fly in to
<v Speaker 2>assist Dar, and the eagle lands on a statue which
<v Speaker 2>is of a bird or eagle itself, And then you
<v Speaker 2>realize the statue's been here this whole time, and that
<v Speaker 2>these creatures, it seems, worship some kind of bird god.
<v Speaker 2>So when they see Sharrak the Eagle appear on the
<v Speaker 2>scene and land on this very structure, the statue, and
<v Speaker 2>they can tell that Dar is friends with the eagle,
<v Speaker 2>that they are connected. They now have a newfound respect
<v Speaker 2>for Dar if he is aligned with this bird, the eagle.
<v Speaker 2>That is, so they allow they're about to allow Dar
<v Speaker 2>to pass. There's a really cool moment where he has
<v Speaker 2>to get past one of these bird men creatures and
<v Speaker 2>Dar has his sword upheld and there's this quick move
<v Speaker 2>that scared the crap out of me, where the bird
<v Speaker 2>creature extends its wings and then clasps the sword very quickly,
<v Speaker 2>making a sharp noise, and down the blade slides a
<v Speaker 2>chain with an amulet at the end of it with
<v Speaker 2>that symbol of the bird statue. It has the symbol
<v Speaker 2>of the eagle on it, and you're like, Okay, now
<v Speaker 2>these bird creatures not only respect Dar for being one
<v Speaker 2>with the animals and the birds, but also gifted him
<v Speaker 2>this and it's going to protect him some way, somehow,
<v Speaker 2>which there is a callback to it later, which I
<v Speaker 2>thought was cool. So I like that moment, that's it.
<v Speaker 2>Then Dar manages to pass. And then initially when I
<v Speaker 2>saw the scene, I was like, what was the purpose
<v Speaker 2>of this scene? They just had these cool bird creatures
<v Speaker 2>and just wanted to do this for shits and giggles,
<v Speaker 2>and it was just kind of cool, great costume design,
<v Speaker 2>makeup effects, things like that. But they come back into
<v Speaker 2>the story near the end, which is really cool. I
<v Speaker 2>thought it was really creepy. I was like, this is
<v Speaker 2>new I haven't seen this before. Like that scene.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do love those creatures, especially when they open
<v Speaker 1>their arms and make that kind of whoop sound.
<v Speaker 2>I love that something.
<v Speaker 1>But with that scene, I still have no idea why
<v Speaker 1>Dar rescues the prisoner. Was that going to do at
<v Speaker 1>that moment? Was he expecting him to help?
<v Speaker 2>Doubt it?
<v Speaker 1>He basically just send him to his death. But those
<v Speaker 1>creatures really cool, and I just love you have that
<v Speaker 1>black ivory statue of the bird. It comes the eagle
<v Speaker 1>and just happens to land right on the shoulder and
<v Speaker 1>everyone's now bowing. It was the jump scare for me too,
<v Speaker 1>when the bird back creature makes the path for Dar
<v Speaker 1>and Dar's cautiously walking through and then that one appears
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere in front of him and drops the medallion.
<v Speaker 1>And as a kid, I had no idea that was
<v Speaker 1>coming into play later. I just thought that was it. It's
<v Speaker 1>kind of funny looking at as an adult. This is
<v Speaker 1>going to be important later on, And of course it is, right.
<v Speaker 2>I get you would call that the Checkof's medallion. I
<v Speaker 2>guess right, right, I think I'm up next again. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>all right, yep, folks, you're gonna have to listen to
<v Speaker 2>me a little bit longer, because my next favorite scene
<v Speaker 2>is one it's a scene within a scene. The overall
<v Speaker 2>scene is the escape from the Temple of r or
<v Speaker 2>the Pyramid, or the city of Aruk. It's all of it.
<v Speaker 2>I get confused, what's what in here? Some a little bit,
<v Speaker 2>but it's escape from the Pyramid, and there's a scene
<v Speaker 2>within this giant long, extended action sequence that I enjoyed,
<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to cut right to it. The mission
<v Speaker 2>here is for Dar and Kiri and Seth and Tall
<v Speaker 2>to rescue King Zed. The audience here we knows that
<v Speaker 2>King Zed is actually the true father of Dar, but
<v Speaker 2>King Zed is also the father of young Tall. Now,
<v Speaker 2>the king has been imprisoned within this temple and imprisoned
<v Speaker 2>by the evil Mayax, and so they're going to rescue him.
<v Speaker 2>And when they are inside, they have to run this
<v Speaker 2>gauntlet basically where these evil death guards are reaching out
<v Speaker 2>trying to kill them, and because they have they have
<v Speaker 2>these sleeves with spikes on them and everything, and so
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a fun sequence and it's a little
<v Speaker 2>too convenient when they get to the room where King
<v Speaker 2>Zed is held because the door is open and they
<v Speaker 2>go inside and they find King Zed. Is there great?
<v Speaker 2>Not so great though for King Zed personally, because his
<v Speaker 2>eyes have been removed or gouged out at some point,
<v Speaker 2>so King Zed is very blind and he is a
<v Speaker 2>lot older at this point and wasting away in this cell.
<v Speaker 2>So they got to him, which is great. But here
<v Speaker 2>come Mayax and his friend Witch, and they slam the
<v Speaker 2>door behind them to lock them in this room and
<v Speaker 2>now they'll all be prisoners. However, here comes Rue down
<v Speaker 2>the gauntlet, and Mayex and the Witch freak out because
<v Speaker 2>here comes this giant panther approaching them, and so they
<v Speaker 2>actually have to go inside the cell room as well.
<v Speaker 2>They close the door behind them and Ru is stuck
<v Speaker 2>out in the hallway. Now we've got a little battle
<v Speaker 2>sequence within this prison room. So we get a great shot.
<v Speaker 2>It reminded me of Evil Dead, Yeah, very much. So
<v Speaker 2>I think with the Witch comes right at Dar if
<v Speaker 2>it's like a depth of veal field sort of zoomed.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm talking about? Bill Ban That shot? Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a cool shot with the where it's
<v Speaker 2>like the Witch is floating towards Dar and so we
<v Speaker 2>get a little one on one fight between the Witch
<v Speaker 2>and Dar, but it's actually short lived at first because
<v Speaker 2>the Witch, while Dars swinging his sword, does this little
<v Speaker 2>kind of explosive dust move and throws this dust in,
<v Speaker 2>this magical explosive dust into Dar's eyes. And I love
<v Speaker 2>this moment because it's a real blood sport moment for me.
<v Speaker 2>It's because you got Dar temporarily blinded, and he's like,
<v Speaker 2>ahh very John Claude Vonda. And now Dar is just
<v Speaker 2>swinging wildly at the witch, but the witch because he's blinded,
<v Speaker 2>and the Witch is just backing off and off to
<v Speaker 2>the side. We've got Mayax versus Kiri. Kiri goes at Mayax,
<v Speaker 2>but Mayax takes tall hostage here with a blade, so
<v Speaker 2>Kiri has to back off. Then back to this one
<v Speaker 2>on one between Dar and the witch, and the witch
<v Speaker 2>has the upper hand because Dar is blinded, and there's
<v Speaker 2>this cool effect where she backs up against the wall
<v Speaker 2>and she starts slithering up the wall, but backwards. She's
<v Speaker 2>still facing forward, so she's sliding up the wall and
<v Speaker 2>above Dar. And now Dark has no idea where the
<v Speaker 2>witch is, and the Witch is literally getting the higher
<v Speaker 2>ground on him. Is up now attached to the ceiling
<v Speaker 2>and can just jump right down directly onto him while
<v Speaker 2>he's still swinging his sword. But finally Dar just calms down.
<v Speaker 2>He relaxes because he knows his sidekick Panther is outside
<v Speaker 2>in the hall. And Ru gets up on his hind
<v Speaker 2>legs and looks through the small window through the door,
<v Speaker 2>and we know that Dar has the ability to see
<v Speaker 2>through Ru's eyes, and Ru is looking into the room
<v Speaker 2>and sees the witch on the ceiling. And now Dar
<v Speaker 2>can see the witch on the ceiling directly above him,
<v Speaker 2>and he thrusts his blade, his sword upward into the
<v Speaker 2>belly of the witch, and the witch falls to her death.
<v Speaker 2>And does she disappear and have a cackle here too?
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure something like that happens, but I just enjoyed
<v Speaker 2>this sequence. I thought that was some cool action there.
<v Speaker 2>Kirie managed to pull out a cool weapon from her risk,
<v Speaker 2>because we know at this point she's not just a
<v Speaker 2>slave girl. She wants a trove warrior. She has this
<v Speaker 2>cool little weapon that she's armed herself with. She throws
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how to describe it, but she
<v Speaker 2>disarms Mayex and so Tall can get away from him.
<v Speaker 2>Max just kind of runs off, and now you've got
<v Speaker 2>Tall and King Zed and Dar. And where's Seth in
<v Speaker 2>the scene? Actually, now that I'm recalling it in my head,
<v Speaker 2>was he with them for this or was he doing
<v Speaker 2>something else?
<v Speaker 1>No, he was never there because he was gathering other warriors.
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, Okay.
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of stuff going on in the Temple
<v Speaker 1>rescue and I was like, I can't touch this. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>there's just way too much going on. But I like
<v Speaker 1>that you picked that scene because it does show how
<v Speaker 1>Dar's abilities as a beast master consistently help him get
<v Speaker 1>through his trials and tribulations throughout the film. Here is Dar,
<v Speaker 1>he's blind, and Rue's right outside the door trying to
<v Speaker 1>get in, and Rue can see that the witch is
<v Speaker 1>above him, and then he just thrusts up his sword
<v Speaker 1>and kills the witch. I thought that was cool.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot that goes on in the Temple rescue scene.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's almost a twenty minute segment and you
<v Speaker 1>touched on a two minute piece of it. There's just
<v Speaker 1>so much going on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get the death Guards in this whole scene,
<v Speaker 2>which are wild.
<v Speaker 1>Right, who are chasing Poto and Coto. For some reason,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why.
<v Speaker 2>That's why I didn't hold this hole do the whole
<v Speaker 2>scene because that part was really cheesy to me. You
<v Speaker 2>got these crazy, huge death guard like chasing these little
<v Speaker 2>ferrets and I'm like, this is now, We're into silly
<v Speaker 2>territory here.
<v Speaker 1>I guess they just go after anything that moves. But
<v Speaker 1>there are former villagers who get these steady eel like
<v Speaker 1>things stuck in their ear and then they.
<v Speaker 2>Just become Yeah another real, really barbaric sequence, so that
<v Speaker 2>I touched upon in the early of the pod. We're
<v Speaker 2>talking about this is awful. They're being tortured and transformed.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they're not just putting them in their ear.
<v Speaker 1>They're putting them in their ear and then all this
<v Speaker 1>foam starts coming out and the priests are sticking tubes
<v Speaker 1>in their ear and sucking out blood. This is not PG.
<v Speaker 2>They're putting masks on them and they got it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's it's gross all right. Time for you to go, man,
<v Speaker 2>go with your scenes.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So again this involves the guns and it's the
<v Speaker 1>final battle. So Dar has taken out Mayax. You think
<v Speaker 1>the movie's over, but nope, they still have to fight
<v Speaker 1>the guns and we know Dar's original mission was to
<v Speaker 1>get revenge on the guns. Well, the Gens are now
<v Speaker 1>coming to a rook and the villagers have to defend
<v Speaker 1>or flee, and they decide that they're going to defend.
<v Speaker 1>So Luckily, around the village it's a mode of tar.
<v Speaker 1>So I thought this was smart. There's one bridge that
<v Speaker 1>leads over the bat and then you can go into
<v Speaker 1>the main gate. They move the bridge back the length
<v Speaker 1>of the tar and then cover the tar with dirts.
<v Speaker 1>You cannot see it. So they figure when the Jungs approach,
<v Speaker 1>they'll go into the tar and they'll set them on fire.
<v Speaker 1>Boom done. So here we are the Gungs approach and
<v Speaker 1>the raid of battle. The Jungs do exactly what the
<v Speaker 1>villagers are hoping they do, and they step into the tar.
<v Speaker 1>The problem is the villagers are having trouble lightning the tar,
<v Speaker 1>so Tal takes a torch and he runs through the
<v Speaker 1>gate to set the tar on fire himself, and he
<v Speaker 1>gets shot by one of the Juns with an arrow.
<v Speaker 1>Now Kiri comes to the rescue, and then Dar comes
<v Speaker 1>to the rescue. I think even Seth comes to the rescue.
<v Speaker 1>It's basically the four of them taking on the juns.
<v Speaker 1>They're able to set the tar on fire. The Gengs
<v Speaker 1>are on fire, but some of them are still crawling
<v Speaker 1>out of the tar on fire and they're still fighting.
<v Speaker 1>This is when Dar then takes on the leader of
<v Speaker 1>the guns and they have a big fight and Darr
<v Speaker 1>is able to take out the leader, but still he's
<v Speaker 1>out numbered and we think all is lost. But all
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, we see the Eagle show up and
<v Speaker 1>Dar knows they're okay. Before the battle had started, Darr
<v Speaker 1>took them in jallion he got from the bat Bird
<v Speaker 1>Wing people and had the eagle go reach out to
<v Speaker 1>them for help. Yeah, the Eagle has brought them to
<v Speaker 1>the battle. So now all the bat bird Wing people
<v Speaker 1>are attacking the gun and dropping them into piles of bones.
<v Speaker 1>Wo whoosh, whoosh. This is a good battle, but in
<v Speaker 1>the end the villagers win, even though they really did
<v Speaker 1>nothing except cover the moat. I thought it was a
<v Speaker 1>good access sequence. The fight between Darr and the leader
<v Speaker 1>wasn't too bad. I like that the leader accidentally pales
<v Speaker 1>himself with his own weapon and then Darr just whips
<v Speaker 1>them into the tar.
<v Speaker 2>H bill bant with the sound effects perfect. That is hilarious.
<v Speaker 2>In You're spot on. Yeah, so this is what makes
<v Speaker 2>the ending tolerable. We talked about it earlier where the
<v Speaker 2>last twenty minutes seem it just feels long at this point,
<v Speaker 2>but when the Birdmen show up, it is very cool
<v Speaker 2>and there is still some great action. It just right.
<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh, the problem was you felt like the
<v Speaker 2>movie was over and it's just not. Yes, but this
<v Speaker 2>actually is a cool sequence. Yes, So I'm totally in
<v Speaker 2>agreement with you. The moment before this happens, when Dar
<v Speaker 2>gives the Amulet Slash medallion to Sharak the Eagle, I
<v Speaker 2>was like, what was the significance of that? I completely
<v Speaker 2>spaced on it, like I was like, what what does
<v Speaker 2>that mean? What is happening? And then we see that
<v Speaker 2>Sharak went back to the Birdmen village to recruit them
<v Speaker 2>to come help in this final battle, is like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>that's cool, and it is a little bit of a
<v Speaker 2>trope that you do see in other films and you
<v Speaker 2>forget about it, and it works on me every time.
<v Speaker 2>It's really smart because, as I mentioned, I love that
<v Speaker 2>scene with when the Birdmen are introduced and you're like,
<v Speaker 2>why why is this scene here? It's got to be here.
<v Speaker 2>For reason, but then an hour goes by and you
<v Speaker 2>forget about them. Very smart. Those bird creatures are freaking cool.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, time to move on to Swiss cheese and complaint
<v Speaker 1>department and what do we call it Swiss cheese?
<v Speaker 2>Because although this movie is delicious, it does have sword holes.
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't have any of those sword holes. We
<v Speaker 1>just spile a complaint with the complaint department. So, Jason,
<v Speaker 1>what do you have for Swiss cheese or complaints? I
<v Speaker 1>think we kind of touched on the Swiss cheese with
<v Speaker 1>the double ending.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that definitely. I'm actually looking at my first two
<v Speaker 2>complaints here and I'm like, yeah, we cover that. Cover that.
<v Speaker 2>Getting back to some of the fight choreography, it's pretty tough.
<v Speaker 2>This one I'm going to call out is when the
<v Speaker 2>priest underlings, because we have, yes, the evil high Priest
<v Speaker 2>in may Axe, but he's got like a group of
<v Speaker 2>kind of monk like priest underlings that serve under him,
<v Speaker 2>and they're all have shaved heads and wear these red
<v Speaker 2>robes and such. Well, they have gone out into the
<v Speaker 2>world blderness to track down dar and they find him
<v Speaker 2>and they corner him. Actually, one of them gets the
<v Speaker 2>upper hand on Dar, slipping a noose over his head
<v Speaker 2>and on his neck and is choking him. And one
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons they found him too or they've identified
<v Speaker 2>him as Dar the chosen one, is that this particular
<v Speaker 2>priest has that ring you spoke of earlier that has
<v Speaker 2>a eye appears and then the witches back at the
<v Speaker 2>homestead with Mayax can see through the eye and they
<v Speaker 2>can see it's Dar, and they're like, yes, that is him.
<v Speaker 2>You need to kill him now. And that's why the
<v Speaker 2>priest puts the noose over is that And the whole
<v Speaker 2>time there's another priest on horseback with a crossbow. If
<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken, that could have just shot Dar in
<v Speaker 2>that moment and does nothing. He does never, He's just
<v Speaker 2>standing sitting there.
<v Speaker 1>I know even I was screaming, shoot sh shoot shoe.
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you just shoot Dar right there? You got
<v Speaker 2>him like dead to rights. Just he just sits on
<v Speaker 2>his horse and is like, no, I'm just gonna wait
<v Speaker 2>for my other, my buddy to choke him to death.
<v Speaker 2>And of course Dar gets out of it, and Rue,
<v Speaker 2>I think mauls everybody are something, you know, and it
<v Speaker 2>just it's it's crazy, and I think then Seth makes
<v Speaker 2>his entrance also afterward, which I loved and a shout out.
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to mention this real quick too. John Amos
<v Speaker 2>is pretty great in this. I thought he was pretty
<v Speaker 2>physical and his staff work taken out batties with his
<v Speaker 2>kind of like his quarter staff pole or whatever. It
<v Speaker 2>was great just slipping that in here, which is a compliment,
<v Speaker 2>not a complaint. But the choreography is so slow at times,
<v Speaker 2>like these bad guys are idiots.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think my favorite ones is the Junes and
<v Speaker 1>Dar is trying to free Ru and the Juns lift
<v Speaker 1>the sword over his head and just holds it there
<v Speaker 1>for Darr to turn around see him and slice him
<v Speaker 1>across his chest. Hello, was your sword too heavy for
<v Speaker 1>you to swing it? He's holding that sword way too long.
<v Speaker 2>It's always a complaint in any action movie for me
<v Speaker 2>when you have a group of bad guys with all
<v Speaker 2>the villains the Horde if you will, in the film,
<v Speaker 2>attacking a single hero and they each wait individually to
<v Speaker 2>attack instead of just all jumping on him at once.
<v Speaker 2>They're like, Nope, I've got to wait my turn. This
<v Speaker 2>guy's going to attack first, then I'll attack, and then
<v Speaker 2>Joe over there he's going to attack. No, you just
<v Speaker 2>mobbed the guy and you've got him, no problem. But
<v Speaker 2>they just wait, you know, wait their turn, and it
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't make any sense.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, complain for me, the black tiger. Just leave the tiger.
<v Speaker 1>Why do we have to paint that thing? I heard
<v Speaker 1>Don Cascarelli wanted it black, and it's impossible to train
<v Speaker 1>an actual panther. But I think someone should have just
<v Speaker 1>stepped up and said leave it alone. And I'll get
<v Speaker 1>into a little bit in the facts in trivia that
<v Speaker 1>they should have just left the tiger. A tiger tiger
<v Speaker 1>says to school in my book.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Why did it have to be a panther? No
<v Speaker 2>idea I was that in the book. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>that it was a panther. Maybe trying to stay true
<v Speaker 2>to the original text. Right, it's not a huge difference.
<v Speaker 2>It was still the tiger is totally badass. But it
<v Speaker 2>was interesting you bring that U because when immediately I
<v Speaker 2>was like, have I ever seen it? I've never seen.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's a tiger. That's definitely a tiger,
<v Speaker 2>And have I ever seen a black tiger? Is there
<v Speaker 2>are there black tigers out there? I was also thrown
<v Speaker 2>off by it. I was questioning my own knowledge of tigers.
<v Speaker 2>So moving on with complaints. One thing we didn't get into.
<v Speaker 2>It is kind of a cool scene, especially for Shark
<v Speaker 2>the Eagle. Well it's a barbaric scene because there's a
<v Speaker 2>child sacrifice and then there's a young girl that's about
<v Speaker 2>to be sacrificed and Shark the Eagle saves her and
<v Speaker 2>flies away with those complaints too, okay, and it's weird.
<v Speaker 2>This girl weighs sixty pounds. There's no way she's getting
<v Speaker 2>carried off. Max has a nice comeback after that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's a great point. Did you have more complaints?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the villagers of a rook. Why are they still
<v Speaker 1>staying in the village. It doesn't look like it's very
<v Speaker 1>well guarded. You can come and go as you please.
<v Speaker 2>It's a great point to leave. It's a great point
<v Speaker 2>go somewhere else.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe just pack up, go or just leave your things,
<v Speaker 1>no big deal, get out of there. The only time
<v Speaker 1>we saw guards is when they were escaping from the temple,
<v Speaker 1>and there was one and that was it.
<v Speaker 2>Right, It doesn't make any sense that they could leave
<v Speaker 2>it any time. Yeah, there's only one way in one
<v Speaker 2>way out. You got to cross the bridge over the moat,
<v Speaker 2>but still who cares there's no guards. That's the whole point.
<v Speaker 2>And it's wild because then I think even doesn't Dar
<v Speaker 2>make a comment when they are going in to rescue
<v Speaker 2>king Zed something like when they come upon the death guards,
<v Speaker 2>he says something like, oh, that's why there were no
<v Speaker 2>guards posted outside. But that's dumb. Why are there no
<v Speaker 2>guards posted outside? You've got a million death guards put
<v Speaker 2>the death guards out there? Why are they not out there?
<v Speaker 2>Makes no sense.
<v Speaker 1>It's not a very well fortified village. It's a cool model, though.
<v Speaker 2>We did like them. Malley, Yeah, for sure. There's a
<v Speaker 2>great part here when Dar and his gang Seth tell
<v Speaker 2>everybody are going to rescue Kiri and the other slave
<v Speaker 2>girls from being executed because the I guess it's the
<v Speaker 2>juns or the priests. It's the priests that are taking
<v Speaker 2>them to be to be executed. And they take them
<v Speaker 2>to like a remote area that's off like at a
<v Speaker 2>beach head, like on a lake. And you have Dar
<v Speaker 2>in a boat with the rest of his gang and
<v Speaker 2>they pull up to the pier and the dock or whatever,
<v Speaker 2>and then a fight ensues because they have to rescue
<v Speaker 2>these slave girls, including Kirie, of course. And my complaint
<v Speaker 2>here is that they rescue Kiri and the other five
<v Speaker 2>of the slave girls disappear.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, what happened to them?
<v Speaker 2>They literally disappear. You see him in one shot and
<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, wait a minute, you're just gonna rescue Kiri.
<v Speaker 2>What about the slave girls? But they're all gone? What?
<v Speaker 1>Totally agree? Speaking of Kirie, yeah, definitely not pc when
<v Speaker 1>Dar forces himself on her with the stealing of the
<v Speaker 1>clothes and Rue shows up. But then later on you
<v Speaker 1>figure out Dar was probably making out with his cousin.
<v Speaker 1>What's going on there? Kind of like it's a little yucky.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, good point, right, because the queen died of
<v Speaker 1>the opening.
<v Speaker 2>Scene incestuous, Maybe so some semi at least semi incestuous,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, it
<v Speaker 2>gets a little convolute with the family tree here is
<v Speaker 2>to I think a complainer question I had for additional
<v Speaker 2>questions was like, did they need to explain it a
<v Speaker 2>little more or at least point out the fact make
<v Speaker 2>it clear that Dar is technically Tall's half brother, right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because if the queen died in the opening scene
<v Speaker 1>King Zed. Then the king probably remarried, right, and that
<v Speaker 1>was where Tal came from.
<v Speaker 2>Right, because Tall's like almost twenty to thirty years younger
<v Speaker 2>than Dar. But they're still half brothers because the king Zaid, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>is the father of both.
<v Speaker 1>I think Dar's only twenty one, twenty two, He's still
<v Speaker 1>a kid.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, fair enough. When they do they rescue King Zed.
<v Speaker 2>This is crazy to me, because you're right, Seth had
<v Speaker 2>gone off with Sako. We haven't discussed the character of Soako,
<v Speaker 2>which is one of the villagers who happens to be
<v Speaker 2>the father of the girl that Shark the Eagle had rescued,
<v Speaker 2>and they split up during this whole pyramid escape from
<v Speaker 2>Aruk and the city of rou and before they this
<v Speaker 2>is part of this extended action sequence before they can leave.
<v Speaker 2>When they get to the gate, it's down and there's
<v Speaker 2>a whole sequence where they have to use the ferrets
<v Speaker 2>to chew through the counterweight to open the gate and
<v Speaker 2>there's a fight and this whole thing, so they can't
<v Speaker 2>leave the city without raising the gate. Well, then, how
<v Speaker 2>did Soako and set how did they get out or
<v Speaker 2>with King z because I think they had I don't
<v Speaker 2>know that it didn't make any sense because half of
<v Speaker 2>the crew managed to get out of the city. But
<v Speaker 2>then Dar and Kiri and Soko. I think they're trying
<v Speaker 2>to escape. I'm getting confused. I'm sorry, confusing characters. But
<v Speaker 2>they they get to the gate is lowered, but some
<v Speaker 2>of the other characters got out, and I'm like, how
<v Speaker 2>did they get out if the gate was down? But
<v Speaker 2>we just were like, they must escape some other way.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, that's a good one, and think about that.
<v Speaker 1>You can kind of get out some way.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got it. Here's animal deaths. They're brutal. Let's
<v Speaker 2>just complain of mine. Toto the dog. Yeah, tough, it's tough.
<v Speaker 2>But then Codo dies one of the ferrets self sacrifice.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a very heroic moment. But I was like, no,
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to kill one of the ferrets, one
<v Speaker 2>of the little cuddly ferrets. Oh, it's worse than old Yeller.
<v Speaker 2>It's my opinion. I'm just saying right now, it's my
<v Speaker 2>hot take.
<v Speaker 1>There you go, anything else.
<v Speaker 2>I had just had an issue a little bit with
<v Speaker 2>our hero's motivation. It seems like through the first half
<v Speaker 2>of the movie, after well at least a quarter of
<v Speaker 2>the way through. Whenever Dar meets Kirie, the gorgeous Tanya Roberts,
<v Speaker 2>seems like his only, like singular goal is to find her.
<v Speaker 2>A little lustful. Understandable on a certain level, but you know,
<v Speaker 2>when he returns the little girl to Aruk and to
<v Speaker 2>her parents there in the city, it's like, that's a
<v Speaker 2>heroic moment, and they're like, yeah, but we're still under
<v Speaker 2>the control of the John Horden, the evil priest may Ax,
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, that's that's I know, that's that's
<v Speaker 2>tough for you, But I need to go find Kiri.
<v Speaker 2>Do you not care about these villagers? So I was
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit questioning Dar's motivations at first. He
<v Speaker 2>wasn't being altruistic or very heroic in his He's just
<v Speaker 2>he just wanted to get with Kirie. It seemed like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame them. Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean,
<v Speaker 2>and I have no problem with that. I understand. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>all right, that's it for bad complaints.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's move on to Hey, it's that actor, all right,
<v Speaker 1>So this segment we spotlight a character actor you have
<v Speaker 1>seen in many other films, an actor making their big
<v Speaker 1>screen debut or an actor that makes an uncredited cameo.
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it's that actor. Who do we choose this week?
<v Speaker 2>Well, this week we've chosen someone who, at least from
<v Speaker 2>my perspective, would be the obvious choice. It's got to
<v Speaker 2>be Billy Jane, who plays the role of young Dar
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of this film. And yes, of course
<v Speaker 2>he is very young, but I recognize that face right away,
<v Speaker 2>that jaw, that smile, and we'll get into it. Billy
<v Speaker 2>is an actor and director, and his career does go
<v Speaker 2>back to the late seventies, but here's his eighties where
<v Speaker 2>he's taken on the stage name of Billy Jacoby. Billy
<v Speaker 2>Jane is actually Billy Jacoby here in the early eighties,
<v Speaker 2>and he does some episodic TV in nineteen eighty shows
<v Speaker 2>like Lou Grant Galactica nineteen eighty Trapper John MD, you
<v Speaker 2>remember that one. He does some TV movies and series
<v Speaker 2>such as twenty six episodes as The Bad News Bears
<v Speaker 2>that was actually from seventy nine through eighty does a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of TV movies and series, then Beastmaster of course
<v Speaker 2>in eighty two. He's in Kujo. In nineteen eighty three,
<v Speaker 2>does eleven episodes of a show called It's Not Easy
<v Speaker 2>from eighty two to eighty three more TV episodes. Finally,
<v Speaker 2>he has his most iconic and memorable role as Buddy
<v Speaker 2>in Just One of the Guys in nineteen eighty five,
<v Speaker 2>which we did cover. Of course. He is the younger
<v Speaker 2>brother to the character Terry played by Joyce Heiser, and
<v Speaker 2>he is awesome. Continues to do eight of episodic TV
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the eighties. He changes his name
<v Speaker 2>to what I'm assuming is his birth name, Billy Jane.
<v Speaker 2>In the early nineties, he did seventy three episodes of
<v Speaker 2>Parker Lewis Can't Lose, playing the character Mikey Randall, and
<v Speaker 2>continued to do mainly TV all the way up to present.
<v Speaker 2>His last credit was in twenty twenty three. He was
<v Speaker 2>in a short film called Run Baby Rome as in
<v Speaker 2>the City of Rome Little Trivia. According to his mother,
<v Speaker 2>Billy and his siblings took the name Jacoby because they
<v Speaker 2>felt Jane was too feminine. There you go, So Jane
<v Speaker 2>slash Jacoby is our Hayitsta actor this week.
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny how many times I've seen this movie
<v Speaker 1>and never made that connection until this time.
<v Speaker 2>Oh really. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>As soon as I saw him right away, I was like,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, just one of the guys. But now
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know before and to watching it for
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, I never put that together, but this time
<v Speaker 1>super obvious. Okay, now it's time to move on to
<v Speaker 1>facts and trivia. What do we have for facts and trivia?
<v Speaker 2>We touched on it a little bit, or at least
<v Speaker 2>you did, Bill in the very beginning here, but I'll
<v Speaker 2>say it again. Beast Master began with a screenplay in
<v Speaker 2>the early eighties written by Paul Pepperman and Don Coscarelli director.
<v Speaker 2>The two writers based their film on Andre Norton's nineteen
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine novel The Beast Master. The writers changed the
<v Speaker 2>story dramatically, as the original novel had the hero named
<v Speaker 2>Hosting Storm, who was a veteran soldier of Navajo descent
<v Speaker 2>in a futuristic science fiction setting. Norton was unhappy with
<v Speaker 2>the liberties taken with the film's script and asked for
<v Speaker 2>her name to be removed from the credits.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and the author was the pen name of Alice Horton.
<v Speaker 1>Just FYI, because I said in the beginning the book
<v Speaker 1>was based on Alice Horton, So that was Alice's pen name. Ah,
<v Speaker 1>thanks for clarifying there. So I thought this was cool.
<v Speaker 1>Love those old eighties special effects. So we have that
<v Speaker 1>first shot of coming upon the village of a rook
<v Speaker 1>and looking at it, I'm like, wait, is that a model?
<v Speaker 1>So it is a model, and they use four perspective.
<v Speaker 1>So what happens in the shot is so it looks
<v Speaker 1>like Dars off in the distance looking down upon the village,
<v Speaker 1>and the village is far off in the distance. Well,
<v Speaker 1>when they shoot it, the model is closer to the
<v Speaker 1>camera and Mark Singer as Dar is actually off in
<v Speaker 1>the distance staring at nothing. So the model is actually
<v Speaker 1>closer to the camera than Dar is. But as an
<v Speaker 1>audience member, when you're watching it, it looks like Dars
<v Speaker 1>looking off into the distance at the village when it's
<v Speaker 1>the opposite. Love that kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. I love hearing that. Director Coscarelli was frustrated
<v Speaker 2>while making the film, during which he feuded with the
<v Speaker 2>film's executive producer, predominantly over the film's editing and casting.
<v Speaker 2>Coscarelli originally wanted Demi Moore for the role of Kiri,
<v Speaker 2>but the executive producer over wrote his choice and had
<v Speaker 2>Tanya Roberts cast. Good call in my opinion. I'm just
<v Speaker 2>saying the role of Mayex was originally written for Klaus Kinski. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>agree with that one, but he was not cast over
<v Speaker 2>a salary dispute.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the scene after Emar is destroyed and we
<v Speaker 1>have Dar laying out the bodies, and then we have
<v Speaker 1>a couple of close ups of him picking up a sword,
<v Speaker 1>covering the scar with the glove and holding the Kappa.
<v Speaker 1>That was not Mark Singer's hands in any of those shots.
<v Speaker 1>That was actually producer Paul Peppermint, who came in because
<v Speaker 1>they had sent Mark home for the day and forgot
<v Speaker 1>to do the pickup shots, so Paul stepped in to
<v Speaker 1>film those shots for us.
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Paul, nice job, nice nice handwork. Got to give
<v Speaker 2>credit where credits due. I appreciate that. Well. I think
<v Speaker 2>it's only appropriate that I mentioned this next piece of trivia,
<v Speaker 2>because then you'll be like, Jason, what's wrong with you?
<v Speaker 2>How did you not watch this movie when you were
<v Speaker 2>a kid? How could you? How is it even possible? Yes,
<v Speaker 2>so it is clear or obvious that this film, after
<v Speaker 2>being in the theaters, subsequently received significant local TV and
<v Speaker 2>cable airplay, notably on HBO, TBS, and T and T.
<v Speaker 2>The film was shown so often on HBO that comedian
<v Speaker 2>Dennis Miller joked that HBO stood for Hey Beast Masters
<v Speaker 2>on it certainly was. It was also shown so often
<v Speaker 2>on TBS that it popularly gained a similar joke that
<v Speaker 2>TBS stood for the Beastmaster Station. True. In nineteen ninety three,
<v Speaker 2>year programming director for TNT claimed that it was second
<v Speaker 2>only to Gone with the Wind as the most popular
<v Speaker 2>movie to air on the network and attributed its success
<v Speaker 2>to its mythological appeal, while a programming director for Cinemax
<v Speaker 2>stated that you can come into any part of it
<v Speaker 2>and not feel you've missed much. So, yeah, it was
<v Speaker 2>on all the time.
<v Speaker 1>So The film originally started shooting with anamorphic lenses, but
<v Speaker 1>the French distributors who were funding the film assisted on
<v Speaker 1>spherical lenses because they anticipated showing the movie on TV,
<v Speaker 1>which they certainly did, and felt that the anamorphic footage
<v Speaker 1>would be considerably in the standard definition of four x three,
<v Speaker 1>So the Young dar encounter with the Bear was later
<v Speaker 1>cropped to match the one point eighty five to one
<v Speaker 1>aspect ratio on spherical footage. So if you do want
<v Speaker 1>that scene, it does seem a little bit off. That's
<v Speaker 1>because the scene was actually shot with different cameras compared
<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the movie, So if you really
<v Speaker 1>pay close attention to it, it seems a little bit
<v Speaker 1>more stretched. But that's why. So that was different cameras,
<v Speaker 1>and I always thought there was something a little weird
<v Speaker 1>about that scene until I read about that, and now
<v Speaker 1>it makes perfect sense.
<v Speaker 2>Got it. Speaking of our Hey, it's that actor Billy Jane.
<v Speaker 2>On Mark Singer's first day of filming Billy Jane at
<v Speaker 2>the time, Billy Jacoby. He was filming the scene where
<v Speaker 2>young dar first learns that he could control animals, and
<v Speaker 2>the bear in the sequence happened to be a Russian bear.
<v Speaker 2>It was the only bear working in Hollywood at the time.
<v Speaker 2>As soon as he came out, the bear broke loose
<v Speaker 2>and attacked his handler, sending the rest of the crew
<v Speaker 2>fleeing into nearby vehicles for safety. As soon as the
<v Speaker 2>bear was recaptured and the handler was carried off for
<v Speaker 2>medical attention, the crew turned and told Mark that they
<v Speaker 2>were ready to film his scene.
<v Speaker 1>Hey got to keep moving on schedule and got to
<v Speaker 1>keep on that budget.
<v Speaker 2>I was money, folks.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I heard Mark Singer's first scene was
<v Speaker 1>the quicksand stuff. So you may have noticed this movie
<v Speaker 1>doesn't carry a disclaimer about no animals being harmed in
<v Speaker 1>the making of it. That's because the tiger that played
<v Speaker 1>the panther died after licking the black paint it was
<v Speaker 1>covered with, which you do see it doing throughout most.
<v Speaker 2>Of the movie. Wow, that sucks exactly. I did not
<v Speaker 2>read that. I read all the bits about it being
<v Speaker 2>painted black and that it would lick the paint and
<v Speaker 2>you can see the paint was fading across his face.
<v Speaker 2>You could see it because it was a striped tiger,
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't know he died. That sucks. Wow. Can't
<v Speaker 2>put that disclaimer on them, No bueno. Well, two years
<v Speaker 2>later after this film came out, Tanya Roberts woodstar as
<v Speaker 2>Shina in Shina nineteen eighty four and which her character
<v Speaker 2>can communicate with animals.
<v Speaker 1>Coincidence, another amazing film with Tanya roberts That's all I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna say.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we should cover that on this podcast. I think
<v Speaker 2>we will. All right, Well, that's it.
<v Speaker 1>For me for facts and trivia, all right, Jason, I
<v Speaker 1>got one last one, go for it. I know it's
<v Speaker 1>one of your favorites. Alternate titles, Alternate titles of the
<v Speaker 1>Beast Master, So here we go. Let me know which
<v Speaker 1>one you like the most. So in Brazil it was
<v Speaker 1>known as the Warrior Prince in Finland, the Invincible Avenger
<v Speaker 1>in France, dar the Invincible in Greece, Barbaric Fighter in Hungary,
<v Speaker 1>Lord of the wilds Italy, Khan Warrior Prince Portugal, the
<v Speaker 1>Sacred Warrior, Invincible Warrior Japan, Miracle Master, Seven Great Adventures,
<v Speaker 1>and then Germany beast Master, the Liberator. Any of those
<v Speaker 1>stand out.
<v Speaker 2>I like the simplicity of Barbaric Fighter, it's just so basic,
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go with that one. Also, Miracle Master.
<v Speaker 2>What was that one? That's like the Japanese one, it's
<v Speaker 2>the longer.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, seven Great Adventures.
<v Speaker 2>Right, you got to put that on there, right, So
<v Speaker 2>that's a fun one. And just the fact that Invincible
<v Speaker 2>was used in so many titles, that's interesting.
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with Beast Master. I don't get that.
<v Speaker 2>Just like why not like call out the actual his
<v Speaker 2>connection to the animals, that's the whole of course, his
<v Speaker 2>whole thing right, keep it simple.
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to box office, so, The Beast Master was
<v Speaker 1>released on August twentieth, nineteen eighty two, and oney thirteen theaters.
<v Speaker 1>An estimated budget of nine million dollars, it would gross
<v Speaker 1>ten point eight million domestically. The movie would debut number
<v Speaker 1>four at the box office, behind a little movie called
<v Speaker 1>et than Front of the Thirteenth Part three, which we've covered,
<v Speaker 1>and An Officer and a Gentleman. It would only stay
<v Speaker 1>in the top ten for another two weeks. The beast
<v Speaker 1>Master would be the sixtieth highest grossing movie released in
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two, between Amneyville, Horror II, The Possession, and
<v Speaker 1>Silent Rage. Moving onto reviews. When growing up in the eighties,
<v Speaker 1>we would watch Steak previews of Genie Cisco and Roger
<v Speaker 1>Eber to hear their reviews and watch clips of upcoming movies. Unfortunately,
<v Speaker 1>they did not cover The Beast Master on their show. However,
<v Speaker 1>gene Cisco gave it two stars out of four and
<v Speaker 1>wrote that it isn't as bad as much as it
<v Speaker 1>is over long. After one of the film's major bad
<v Speaker 1>guys has been bumped off, the film goes on for
<v Speaker 1>another twenty minutes. In this sort of brainless adventure film.
<v Speaker 1>One climax is enough, okay, kind of what we were saying.
<v Speaker 1>Laern Moulton also gave it two out of four stars
<v Speaker 1>in his twenty fifteen movie guide. Rotten Tomatoes gives it
<v Speaker 1>a Tomatometer score of fifty percent, with a popcorn Meter
<v Speaker 1>score of fifty four percent. It also has an IMDb
<v Speaker 1>rating of six point two. It's kind of surprised by
<v Speaker 1>the popcorn Meter score. I thought that would be higher.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, at me too, definitely, I if I
<v Speaker 2>may add, of course, another review that I absolutely love
<v Speaker 2>this is a review from Variety. Variety wrote, when The
<v Speaker 2>Beast Master begins, it is very hard to tell what
<v Speaker 2>it is all about. An hour later, it is very
<v Speaker 2>hard to care what it is all about. Another hour later,
<v Speaker 2>it is very hard to remember what is all about.
<v Speaker 2>That's it.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe agree with the first part, Yeah, like what is
<v Speaker 1>this movie about?
<v Speaker 2>For sure? I cared about Dar and Kirie Tall all right.
<v Speaker 1>Time to move on to additional thoughts and questions. What
<v Speaker 1>are some additional thoughts and questions we have about The
<v Speaker 1>Beast Master?
<v Speaker 2>Bill Bant, Did you ever see any of the sequels?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have seen both two and three. They're not
<v Speaker 1>very memorable at all. The second one I hate because
<v Speaker 1>it's a time jump into Los Angeles at the present
<v Speaker 1>day and it's just awful. And they replaced Tinder Roberts
<v Speaker 1>read Harry warr which isn't too bad. She's another very
<v Speaker 1>cute redhead.
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, I was a big fan of hers. I
<v Speaker 2>wanted her to be in everything. She's Here's wild to
<v Speaker 2>carry warr Man. She has a small supporting role in
<v Speaker 2>the film and a conda. So the only reason why
<v Speaker 2>I go back to watch that movie, which is Wild.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just a big fan of hers. That's funny, Gotcha.
<v Speaker 1>If I was to watch the third one, it would
<v Speaker 1>probably be like watching it for the first time. I
<v Speaker 1>don't remember anything about that one, but I think that
<v Speaker 1>was a TV movie or a straight to video, gotcha. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>so I just pretend the second and third one don't exist,
<v Speaker 1>and I've never bothered with the show.
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Yeah, Well, I've seen all of the sequels.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding. Can you wouldn't that be hilarious if
<v Speaker 2>I'd seen I've never seen the original, which was shown
<v Speaker 2>the most would.
<v Speaker 1>Be kind of odd, all right, Jason? If you were
<v Speaker 1>the beast Master. What animal would you want to have
<v Speaker 1>as your companion?
<v Speaker 3>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>Great question.
<v Speaker 1>Who's going with you on your adventure? What types of
<v Speaker 1>animals are you.
<v Speaker 2>Going to use? I think the easy answer for me
<v Speaker 2>would be a wolf.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a good one. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>A big fan of the wolves. I think they're amazing creatures.
<v Speaker 2>They're very impressive and very dangerous. But did I ever
<v Speaker 2>tell you that I actually went to a wolf sanctuary.
<v Speaker 2>I've been to two wolf sanctuaries in fact, and you're
<v Speaker 2>able to get very close to these wolves. Yeah, very cool.
<v Speaker 2>I happened the first time I went. I had taken
<v Speaker 2>a girlfriend on Valentine's Day because I knew she was
<v Speaker 2>in love with wolves. So I found a sanctuary out
<v Speaker 2>in the desert and we went into this caged thing
<v Speaker 2>and we fed the wolf, and it was very tame.
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe it was one hundred percent wolf, but
<v Speaker 2>this thing was giant. And I happened to be wearing
<v Speaker 2>a particular type of colone that it was attracted to.
<v Speaker 2>And this wolf rubbed its head and its jaw all
<v Speaker 2>over my neck and was totally in love with me.
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing and intimidating as hell, but amazing. And
<v Speaker 2>I have a great photo where you can see him
<v Speaker 2>doing this because he just was he was putting his
<v Speaker 2>scent on me and you can see his jaw as
<v Speaker 2>wide open while he's doing it because he was in
<v Speaker 2>the kind of infatuated with me in that moment, just
<v Speaker 2>rubbing his face on me. It was awesome and very impressive.
<v Speaker 2>But that's a total tangent. So yeah, I'll go with wolf.
<v Speaker 2>I can't think of what would you choose, Bill Bant.
<v Speaker 1>I think I would either go elephant or gorilla.
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, well, I mean gorilla is a great call.
<v Speaker 2>Like elephant that would do some damage if you needed
<v Speaker 2>some help in a battle, that's for sure. But a
<v Speaker 2>gorilla that would be cool. That would be really cool
<v Speaker 2>thinking about your connection to the animal, to be able
<v Speaker 2>to see through their eyes and to be able to
<v Speaker 2>communicate with them too and be buds. Gorillas are cool. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could beat the eagle. Maybe an
<v Speaker 1>owl just because of its status, but I mean.
<v Speaker 2>Flying, I don't think so.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Being able to see like through an eagle's eyes too
<v Speaker 2>and get that bird's eye view if you will, great stuff.
<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. I think it's some other animals.
<v Speaker 2>So this was kind of a question complaint I think
<v Speaker 2>we touched on earlier. Did we want the Juhn Horde
<v Speaker 2>chieftain to have been more of a character? Should he
<v Speaker 2>have been more of a character?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think so. He reminded me of Lord Humongous
<v Speaker 1>from The Road Warrior, and we just see him. He
<v Speaker 1>never speaks, which is kind of a bummer, right completely,
<v Speaker 1>you'd be great. They both talk the same way. And
<v Speaker 1>only because he has like the antler thing on the
<v Speaker 1>side of his helmet do we even really know he's
<v Speaker 1>in charge? But yeah, I just wish there was something
<v Speaker 1>more that stood out about him. I need it more
<v Speaker 1>from him. But what because I don't want to disrupt
<v Speaker 1>the flow of the movie. Is it good that he's
<v Speaker 1>the silent type? But then I feel like they should
<v Speaker 1>have defeated the Jungs first and then gone after may Ax.
<v Speaker 2>All good questions and thoughts. I think maybe he didn't
<v Speaker 2>necessarily need to speak or have a great deal of lines,
<v Speaker 2>because Lord Humongous is great and Road Warrior, you know,
<v Speaker 2>he's not like particularly verbal in that film. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>he had some great moments, but but we just needed
<v Speaker 2>to see him a little bit he just needed to
<v Speaker 2>be more established, that's all.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just not one dreder. Sure how I would
<v Speaker 1>do it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and along these same lines, I'll just continue, then,
<v Speaker 2>is that you did we need more of Tanya Roberts
<v Speaker 2>in this film? And I'm not just saying that because
<v Speaker 2>she's an attractive woman, but her character. Do we need
<v Speaker 2>more of this trove warrior or slave girl in the
<v Speaker 2>because she's barely in the first hour.
<v Speaker 1>I guess I think I would have liked to see
<v Speaker 1>more of her trove warrior abilities, maybe if we knew
<v Speaker 1>earlier that she was a warrior that became a slave
<v Speaker 1>or in the temple trying to rescue the king. And
<v Speaker 1>then she goes off and changes from a skimpy slave
<v Speaker 1>girl outfit to a skimpy trove warrior outfit.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Yeah, now that I say it out loud,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we really needed more of her
<v Speaker 2>character necessarily. Does it add or detract from film? Maybe?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But this will be my last thought
<v Speaker 2>regarding Kiri is that And this is actually I think
<v Speaker 2>a compliment because to get back to a little trivia,
<v Speaker 2>they actually did shoot or were attempting to shoot a
<v Speaker 2>sex scene between Dar and Kirie, and the question would
<v Speaker 2>be would have that been necessary for the film? Would
<v Speaker 2>that have added anything? And I think it's good that
<v Speaker 2>they didn't. I mean, as a young boy, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you want to see more of a beautiful woman whatever
<v Speaker 2>in a film and things these scenarios, but I don't
<v Speaker 2>think it would have added to the movie. So I'm
<v Speaker 2>glad that the sex scene is not in the film.
<v Speaker 2>And I think in the trivia to I don't think
<v Speaker 2>they it was too cold or something happened where they
<v Speaker 2>had difficulty filming the scene regardless. So it's funny because
<v Speaker 2>you have two hot actors in this film and it's there.
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're very dars obviously, very lustful toward her
<v Speaker 2>and things like that, but they never hook up. Really,
<v Speaker 2>they make out a couple times, but you're expecting this
<v Speaker 2>full on scene and it never happens. So I'm glad
<v Speaker 2>they didn't didn't do it.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because on
<v Speaker 1>the DVD I have, there's a hidden menu, so basically
<v Speaker 1>you have to scroll on the ring oh with the
<v Speaker 1>green eye, so it's off the menu and when you
<v Speaker 1>hit it, it's behind the scenes footage.
<v Speaker 2>Oh.
<v Speaker 1>Cool, except most of the behind the scene footage is
<v Speaker 1>naked shots of China Roberts, and one of the shots
<v Speaker 1>of her is coming on to Mark Singer and dropping
<v Speaker 1>her robes, so I guess they're about to have their
<v Speaker 1>sex scene. So they did shoot something, and I wonder
<v Speaker 1>if Tinyer Roberts knew that was on the DVD. It's
<v Speaker 1>basically all shots of her being naked. I'm surprised I
<v Speaker 1>got away with that.
<v Speaker 2>I got to give it a no, it exists, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And I also got to give a shout out to
<v Speaker 1>Josh Morad who played Tall. I thought he was pretty
<v Speaker 1>good as a kid actor. I don't think he really
<v Speaker 1>did anything else, but I thought he was good in this.
<v Speaker 2>He worked.
<v Speaker 1>Good call, good call. All right, let's move on to
<v Speaker 1>a rating. So on a scale of one, two five,
<v Speaker 1>death Guards, what would you give the Beast Master.
<v Speaker 2>I give it a really strong three and a half
<v Speaker 2>death Guards Bill Band Again, I think this is a
<v Speaker 2>great B movie. It's more of a B plus, almost
<v Speaker 2>ANUS movie. It is just loaded with everything, really playing
<v Speaker 2>to my sensibilities I mentioned earlier, just the different genres,
<v Speaker 2>the different mix of genres, but it is kind of
<v Speaker 2>that wish fulfillment for a boy where you're just like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>how cool would it be to hang out with these
<v Speaker 2>animals and be able to have that type of camaraderie
<v Speaker 2>and connection, and then to you to be able to
<v Speaker 2>work together in order to overcome obstacles and beat the
<v Speaker 2>bad guys and all that stuff. I mean, it's super
<v Speaker 2>fun from an adventure aspect. The movie looks great. It's
<v Speaker 2>shot really well, really fun action, beautiful people. So the
<v Speaker 2>acting was serviceable. It was fine. It didn't distract me
<v Speaker 2>too much, and good to see you know, rip torn
<v Speaker 2>chewing it up as you mentioned. So I went into
<v Speaker 2>this not knowing anything and came out really happy that
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it, and I would be happy to revisit
<v Speaker 2>it again down the line. I was really surprised, and
<v Speaker 2>it's just fun. It's entertaining. You don't have to think
<v Speaker 2>about it too hard. Shout out to the Birdman creatures.
<v Speaker 2>Those were cool. That's it. I had fun, man, I
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of fun. It's good.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird. It's a bad movie. That's good.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.
<v Speaker 1>I still find it very entertaining. As I said from
<v Speaker 1>the get go, younger me would give this five stars,
<v Speaker 1>but almost you. It's three and a half. I think
<v Speaker 1>it still holds up. I think there's a lot of
<v Speaker 1>cool elements in it. The hero's journey does follow that,
<v Speaker 1>and it's cool to see all those elements of the
<v Speaker 1>hero's journey in this movie. There's a ton of creatures
<v Speaker 1>and characters meet throughout the film and trying to keep
<v Speaker 1>all that straight of who goes where and what goes
<v Speaker 1>with what. I think, for the most part, you can
<v Speaker 1>keep with it. I really do like the soundtrack for this.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty memorable and I might need
<v Speaker 1>to get this one in my collection. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Yeah, I should have mentioned that as well.
<v Speaker 1>And Mark Singer between this and V Yeah, he was
<v Speaker 1>an eighty's icon for me, especially in the early eighties.
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't seem to get mentioned much, but I enjoyed
<v Speaker 1>him in this. So if you're one of the few
<v Speaker 1>people that have not seen this movie no longer, Jason,
<v Speaker 1>I would give it a shot. Just remember it's nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty two, right, It's not going to hold up with
<v Speaker 1>today's standards, but I think there's a lot of good
<v Speaker 1>elements to it. It's fun.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, it is dated, but you make a
<v Speaker 2>good point. This movie has its place, like a really
<v Speaker 2>solid place in the eighties because it was played so
<v Speaker 2>much on television. And yes, credit to Mark Singer. I
<v Speaker 2>mean he's a known entity for us that grew up
<v Speaker 2>during that decade. Right you hear his name, it's immediately
<v Speaker 2>identifiable and associated with the Beast Master. You just know it.
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I didn't even watch the movie in
<v Speaker 2>the eighties, and I knew who Mark Singer was because
<v Speaker 2>of that movie. He's in fantastic shape, he looks fantastic
<v Speaker 2>and he's good in the movie. So credit to him,
<v Speaker 2>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that about wraps it up for this week's episode.
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