Salvatore Pais & Dave Rossi - Anti Gravity and Superluminal Speeds
In this podcast we discuss advanced technology that will change the world in the future and what the implications are for our understanding of physics as well as our place in the universe.
Salvatore Pais is a U.S. Navy Engineer and publisher of several advanced science papers & patents that have the ability to change the world.
Dave Rossi is founder of SAALT and Phase Helix where he works as a Defense Contractor on advanced scientific experiments including non-chemical propulsion.
We will show experiments and scientific concepts that challenge mainstream academia as well as review how they correlate to the MH370 videos.
Salvatore Pais is a U.S. Navy Engineer and publisher of several advanced science papers & patents that have the ability to change the world.
Dave Rossi is founder of SAALT and Phase Helix where he works as a Defense Contractor on advanced scientific experiments including non-chemical propulsion.
We will show experiments and scientific concepts that challenge mainstream academia as well as review how they correlate to the MH370 videos.
2024-02-26
113 min
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Welcome everybody. Hard Truth's number four the epic podcast with Salvator Pious, who is an engineer with the Navy who has patents out there of advanced scientific concepts that we're going to go into today, as well as Dave Rossidd engineer, self taught genius, as well as two of my favorite people on the entire planet. I can't wait to get into it with you guys here today. So let's just start it up and do it south. We're going to let you start go ahead, Thank you, sir. We just want to say right off the bat and I think I can speak for brother Rossi. You are our favorite person. Put it this way. Without you, the high frequency gravitation we generated induced propulsion paper would have never seen the virable we talked about. What you mentioned one point five million. It's like, whoa, that's the highest I've ever gotten for anything, So God bless you, Thank you, sir. I owe you. But anyway, so let me just give a disclaim of the bat again. I'm Salvatorpius. Let's call myself for now a Navy engineer, and I'm here as a private citizen, and any of my opinions, my statements and so forth are mine and mine alone. They are now representative of the United States Navy nor the United States Space Force. That said, also, I would like to ask my brothers in arms over here to make sure that we do not eat cube. In other words, we do not and educate or enlighten the enemy in anything we said. That being said, let me just go directly into the super force. And this is something I found recently which which totally a bog of my mind. I didn't believe it at first, but I did. I did the math again, and it works out there. Beckenstein Hawking entropy expression. The formula for it is on your order of the Boltzmann constant divided by agebarc times the super force times the black hole surface area, in other words, the area of the event horizon. And I see brother Rassi smiling because he knows what that needs. Because it talks directly to the holographic principle. It is the super force acting on the invent horizon that gives right to the amount of information in the bulk of the black hole. This is a first and your Heart Truth podcast. This has not been published yet. This is a first role. If anybody publishes this, how should I say, the wrath of God will come down upon them because the three of us where the three am egos. Let's say, so put it this way, This shows something very interesting because the super force. Now to what remember the Bekenstein Hawking theory is one of the things that string theory was able to show. I believe that it is possible that the super force may actually aid in showing that the string theory, the string theory. We're talking about the string as a vibrational filament of quantum stuff. For lack of a better terminology, but you understand what I'm talking about. So again, string theory may be the final theory, and it may be proven with the super force. The super force is essential and eventually possibly driving an experiment that who knows, possibly rather Rassi Ashton and I will put together down the road. And if we can actually show that string theory is the ultimate final theory. If you remember what the great Weinberg said, you know this means we will be the beloved of the academic community forever. More So, this could actually what I just said right now could actually may may start a third revolution in strength year, the second being the great Witten. Of course, of course, I'm I'm not saying that. How should I say that I just gave it away. This has a lot of work to do with it. But the super force must be looked into again. The sea to the fourth the sea speed of light to the fourth power divided by big G is essential, absolutely essential. And even determining what the entropy of a black hole. And remember that this so called black hole, this quote unquote portal that is opened up by the orbs that we're going to speak to, is very essential in determining quote unquote quantum teleportation and the ability. What if for every black hole there is a white hole. What if every entrance has an exit it talks to wormhole? Yes, but this is different, and brother Rassi, I'm pretty sure it has a lot to say about it. But before brother Rossi goes into a certain very important experiment, let me just I have three points to make. I like the number three, as you well know, can to help it. It's the Tesla factor. Now I called okay, So the first one I'll touch on the triarchy of sentience. I believe that these orbs, and by the way, we have to speak brother Rossi. We have to speak to your fourth orb hypothesis is right on the money, thank you, right on the money, because you have an X y Z. So, in other words, you have the three orbs that determine a Cautesian coordinate system X y Z or our data five in spherical coordinates, and you must have a destination that must be your fourth orb. So anyway, we'll go there for sure. Now, the tricky of sentience speaks to the possibility of these of these orbs being artificial intelligence agents as well. So in other words, not only are they endowed with with collision avoidance capability, which is something that most likely was in effect by twenty fourteen for sure, because I remember they were doing work on the U class the X forty seven B they called it. That's when our man had classed. Well, i'll just leave it there and okay. So the tracky of sentience again speaking to the control of these orbs, possible self control, which is amazing. I mean, these are autonomous units. Once they're engaged, once they basically switched on, they're on their own, and this is what makes them incredibly powerful. Now again the track you of sentience speaks to this. First, in my opinion, you must have very high level computational power possibly achieved in a middle in a miniaturized system using parallel processing of GPU GPU units graphical process in units. Remember that these are possibly to be linked in a certain way. They could give tremendous power capabilities. Rather, I love when you smile because you know when you smile that means someone points. So thank you. I appreciate that big time. Now I'm smiling because I think we're basically saying the same thing. I just I want I just don't want to say too much. Okay, oh thank you for that, right it you, it, you you. But I never gave numbers, keep numbers, no, no frequency spectrums, nothing. Remember, just keep it general, keep it in the realm of possibility, conditional possibilities. Now, so the second one speaks to, these most likely were trained. These units are based on a multi modal model, so it's not just a large language system. This must have incorporated images, must have incorporated three D objects, must have incorporated a sound. So these particular orbs, let's call them artificial intelligence agents most likely have AGI capability. Can you imagine AGI possibility? In twenty fourteen, gentlemen, you you realize just by extrapolation that we might have we in the black, we must have achieved singularity. But anyway, I'm not gonna go there. I'll not touch that now anyway, who hot played? Now? The third one, the third one is big. The third one is big because once you train them on textbook data, which is the second part, the second branch of the triarchy of sentsions, you must train these multimodal models on textbook data, highly approved, validated, verified data. This is not Internet stuff that you pulled from Reddit. This is stuff that you put out of Holiday and Resnik fourth edition, carbon Meeds, Collective Electrodynamics, The Road to Reality by Roger Sorry, Lord, Roger penbrose In, Charles Charles hintent. Now, now, so that was the second branch. Once it's trained by textbook data, these multimodal models must have the ability to generate an original concept. That is the third branch. That is a must. If they cannot generate an original concept which is never seen, never been seen before, not in physical review, letters, nor any other great publication, nature, science, none, none. If they come up with an original concept for example, for example, and I know people will accuse me of great hupris, but say you take Maxwell's equations. I'm not gonna go to the super force, not yet, even though that's you know, I have a certain anyway. So once you take max equation, you realize just from from from Faraday's law, the idea of the electric field strength equals see the speed of lifetimes be the magnetic induction. Okay, you take that, you couple it to the fourth equation. You know what I'm talking about you, I'm talking about the Maxwell mPire displacement current. Now right, you must come Just those two alone will give you what basically the pace effect is all about. If that AGI is able to come up with that from just those four equations based on what you fed it, that's it that has achieved AGI capability. And I'm not calling myself, you know, superhuman or anything like that. I'm just saying you need a breakthrough of that nature. To actually be called ATI. You need to originate a highly original concept, never to that point seen before. Okay, so that's the track your sentience. Now number two, and this is very important. I believe that physical mathematics must drive our current physics, which must not be a physics of destruction, must be a physics of creation. What I mean by physical mathematics, I mean the physics must drive the mathematics, not the other way around. What we currently use is mathematical physics. And yes, the mathematics is beautiful. It's usually this mathematics is usually therefore branches that are currently used that are beautiful and when fused together give for example, rights to string theory. One is calculus of variables, then linear algebra, then group theory, and then differential geometry. And that's the genius of Einstein in general relativity theory, hence the gravitational field equations. So these four branches of mathematics, once combined with the idea, for example, of harmonic castellated, what is this vibrational filament of quantum stuff? For want of a better terminology, I'm pretty sure people such as Brian Green, Brian Heating, David Gross, Nimar Khanni Hammann of course the great one Mother Sena, which, by the way, he said something recently that totally took took me by surprise. I did not know. It was in conversations in quantum gravity between him and Jacques Armas, Professor r Maas of Cambridge Union of University asked Professor Maldacena of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton University. They were talking there seems to be experiments back in nineteen sixty eight. They were based on trying to find the strong interaction, and there were experiments that actually showed that this physical entities to actually be experimentally south. And then for some reason they went somewhat quote unquote into the dark. Could it be, ladies and gentlemen, could it be that string theory is the ultimate final theory and maybe something like the super force can bring it into How should I say? Maybe we need the greats like Witten, Malta, Sena, Susskin. I believe his name Saskin, Sorry Lenny, Yeah, Queen's guy anyway, the whole He's from Brooklyn, you know. Can you believe the man started as a plumber and now he's one of the greatest we've got. I mean, he's one of the pioneers of string theory. People like that, they should, especially the great Win should engage into seeing whether this super forse concept could actually be incorporated within string theory, eventually leading to experimental verification, because that's all there is. Once one string theory is even minimally or indirectly verified, and you could say from the Bekenstein Hawking entropy equation that it was verified through the through the through the discovery of black holes. I mean this sagittariusay star that basically dictates the whole right h bar sorry, the Botsman thing pisa B divide by HBRC which is that factor, believe it or not, gentlemen and ladies, that factor is on the are of one hundred. So you can just eliminate, you know, gentlely nudget out of the way, because what comes the super force acting acting and the event horizon surface area again the genius amount of senna. Yes, ads ecuse cft. I was completely wrong by saying certain things in the past. I did not understand. The holographic principle is key because it shows it shows that the information within the boult actually resides on the event horizon surface area. But what brings it into the forefront, what makes it talk, is the SUPERFCE. That's what leads to the amount of of of of goodness gracious, Sometimes I wish I had all the terminologies in the world. Sometimes I'm lost for words. I apologicze. But the whole idea is this, Look what the Bettenstein hawking. It's funny because it's BH and that's why I remember it. So the entropy of BH, you know vh as in black hale. That's interesting. Okay, So the hawking, the hawking, the black the betting Stein hawking equation speaks to the amount of information that's within that bulk of the black hole, which which is really what And brother ROSSI knows this well, what what is this? It's basically the arrangement of micro states into the macro state that is representative of the structure we are talking here. It could be that the super force will one day prove string theory as the ultimate final theory of physics, a theory of everything, string theory. So from people giving up, maybe they will once again revitalize this. I think the geniuses of Alta Senna written others. David Gross oh my god, friend Wilchack, bringing Wilchack, Oh my god, bring in Wilcheck Willcheck Will Between the four of them, I mean, if they can't figure it out, you know what I'm saying, but they will. I mean, these are four of the greatest we've got. And of course Brian Green, yes, some very interesting ideas you have to see some of the some of the some of the podcasts. But anyway, I digress. I don't Okay, So there was the second point. Okay, eventually, I'm pretty sure hopefully brother Ashton will have brother ROSSI and I again sometime and then you'll hear some more crazy stuff. Now. Anyway, so the third point is that you break down and that that doctor, Hey, I said, Doctor, that means I think of you as a doctor. So you know what, doctor ROSSI? All right, so doctor Rossi, no, I mean it. Hey, I have a PhD. Supposedly, supposedly, according to academic criteria, I have the right well, once I've achieved a certain level of professional ability, which I think ship. Sorry, you're when you're Ashton, when you're done, sel Ashton, if you can give me a couple of minutes, I want to stand on the shoulders of what Sala is saying before we go to the video. Absolutely, okay, So so the third point is back you and break down. How do these fourth Actually it's very interesting because I I've been thinking how how how does the fourth orb know exactly where that white hole is to be formed? Because that speaks exactly to how this warmhole is being formed that the fourth orb hypothesis is essential to all this. There must be a fourth orb otherwise God forbid. M Street sement, you will never materialize on the other side, you know what I'm talking about. Right after Rassi? Okay, so so so no from now, and I'm not kidding. I'm addressing your doctor Rod. Thank you. You're saying you're saving me words, And I tell you, sometimes I'm lost for words, and like brother, sometimes I call brother doctor Rossi David. Sometimes you know, I'm going to brother Rossi. But okay, so the third point back you break down. You need what are these all doing that depositing great amounts of energy around them? Because we have to discuss the nature of plasma. Plasma might not just be the fourth state of matter as we understand it. You have to understand you have to go back to origins who coined it. Irving Langueyer in nineteen thirty two Nobel Prize winner, Why did he call it plasma? Because they reminded him so much of what of blood? This He believed that these could be actually capable of life. And it's I know a lot of people say, oh you gone of the deep end. But no look into the work of Hans Alvane. Hans Alvane, the father of magneto hydrodynamics, wrote, I believe it was called cosmic plasma. It was in the It was in the goodness gracious, sometimes I wish I had another head, But okay. It was in Astrophysics and Space Science Volum eighty two, I think, published in nineteen eighty one. So again Astrophysics and Space Science. I believe Value eighty two. Hans Alvan called it the the monograph, or whatever you want to call it was called cosmic plasma, and in it Alvane speaks to plasma not only being capable of action, but intention intention. Gentlemen, this is a theory of consciousness. This, this is sentience. These could actually be a type of life phone. Could you imagine not only capable of HI, but a life form. This would totally break the understanding of academic physics as we now, and again I strongly believe that we are in the infantile stages of physics. We may be a two or three or four months of tops. We're definitely not after Generians, and hopefully we'll never meet without the Kissinger's end, because he did achieve that end that one hundred years. So when physics is of one hundred years old, then it has a right to how should I say, bring in new physics? Until then we're talking about new perspectives on old physics, because after all, we're very young. Okay, I've said enough. Of course, the third principle of vacuum breakdown speaks to the Shwingle limit, and we've already spoken to this, so brother Rossi is covered as I covered it with Ashton in number one. So anyway, yeah, you've had enough of that stuff. Okay, never on mind. Okay, sorry, brother is yours? Yeah, I'm going to pass it to brother Rossi here in just a minute. I just want to address a couple of things that you said there, because I heard a lot of really amazing stuff. One agi the way I understand it's advanced artificial intelligence that can basically get to a point where it achieves the singularity and become sentient in itself, and that, you know, that's something that I'm very interested in learning more about. I also heard I Think, which was essentially a unification theory of physics and consciousness, which I'm also very interested in as well. When you start talking about plasma getting too, getting more and more complex to the point where it obtains consciousness, you know, because the universe, in my opinion, is alive. You know, we may be part of a larger organism to some degree. And then the last thing I think I heard there was that we are still cavemen. I think that we have this hubris amongst us as humans where we think we are at the pinnacle ofvization and science, where we're really at infancy state. You know, we can get so much more advanced to where we are right now. Excuse my language, but I sometimes think with a bunch of apes clanking rocks sometimes, sorry for the language, playing without both and calling it magic. Okay, I'm done. Yeah, Dave Rossi and I on his podcast, we're actually talking about this just the other day. So I can't wait for that to come out publicly and go ahead, Dave Floor's yours sir, Sure, thank you. So I just wanted to say that this is something that I want to I've been writing down as Sal was speaking. A beautiful intro. By the way, Sal and this is for Ashton, your of course, yourself and your lovely audience, because I know a lot of people I noticed in your audience at Ashton they want to learn, and so that's that's amazing. So I'm not claiming here to know everything. Anyone who does, in my opinion, is full of crap. But a couple of things I wanted to stand on a Sal's brother Sal's shoulder on which is that, again without giving specifics, a lot of what Sal has been discussing seems to be supported by what's called Bomian coherence and decoherence that Carlo Rovelli has avidly looked into. And I fully agree with you on the black hole white hole side of things, largely because of Carlo Rovelli's work Seal. The other thing that's very interesting in terms of, you know, we could say many decades ago literature that seems to have been suppressed is that Halpern and Laurent in the nineteen sixties had a couple of papers that basically were titled the Gravitational Radiation of microscopic Systems, and interestingly enough, it was deemed by certain institutions that I won't say the names of, we know them very well today. The attempt to even take it to an experimental stage was deemed not feasible. So it just makes you think, why do they Why are there certain you know, yes men or no men saying what can or can't be experimented on. That's another thing. The one thing also I want to point out too is that I encourage your audience ask too when we bring these consp concepts up, whether it's brother Sally or myself or even yourself, Ashton. One of the things I found in my in my self learning journey is that you need, even though maybe difficult, you have to go back to the actual authors who wrote the paper, not what someone wrote about the paper, because then that's where a lot of things get fuzzy. You have to go, for example, to the original origins, origins, origins, right right exactly. There are a lot of things in the For example, I'm just gonna sell I think you know what I'm gonna say here, but there's a lot of people that don't know what the source charge problem is. For example, I'm gonna leave that there. Doctor ROSSI, you are a remarkable man. I must say this is what I mean. That's what no, this is what I mean. If you ever tell me that you weren't able to publish in physical review letters. I will take up by that freaking journal as much as I love it, as much I would love to publish in it, I'll make sure that certain things are period I appreciate very grateful Sal. The other thing I wanted to clarify as well, very quickly, is that just to respectfully say at Ashton, I'm not a DoD engineer. I'm a contractor slash consultant, just to be clear, so I'm not employed by the DoD. I would just like to clarify for anyone that may have any misunderstandings there. The other thing that's very interesting is that Feynman said something that's very interesting, which is that when charging a capacitor, the actual energy is seen on the edges of the gaps and not from where you're charging it from, which goes back to what brother Sal was saying about this quantum vacuum. If nothing is there, then how is the electricity coming on the edges of the Oh hey, there we go the super for exactly, how is the electricity coming in through the edges and it's not coming from the part where you're charging it. Clearly there might be a sort of kinetic friction going on there. Now the final thing I want to say with regards to the fourth orb that I brought up, which in my opinion sort of completes a quadrupole system, is And please tell me sal if you think I'm wrong with what I'm about to say here, but to give a visual for everybody, what I envision in my mind is the three orbs circling the plane, and what happens is the same way you stretch an elastic band. You have a fourth orb there and the second that the super force and Pia's effect occurs, it's the same way of letting go of the elastic and then it shoots back to the original point. It's basically stretching and expanding space in that sense. So we keep one orb here, three orbs go to the plane. Once everything is locked in, let it go boom. It's there. That's and not only that. Think trajectory, right, what we're seeing a trajectory through a black hole quote I'm quote portal. Even though I choose black hole because I truly believe every black hole has a whitehole. There are no such thing a space time singularities. I apologize to Lord Penrose. That's the only thing that I will disagree with them on the man is amazing. My god, spinners twist twisters. Yeah. Now now that basically okay, So so the the the the point of origin is described by what the Cartesian system X y Z, say in spherical coordinance, would be our data five. Right, your point of destination where you're sending this thing has to be one point. That's all you need is one point. So hence this foot or must be there. It's it really is. It needs no more explanation than that. Even though your explanation of the I love that, I absolutely love it. That sounds like something that ROVELI would love to Okay, oh wow, thank I appreciate that. That's a great philosopher. Have you heard him? Have you out? Not too much, but I can tell through philosophy of physics is beautiful, truly beautiful. I think. Well if I could say as well in from a philosophical sense, so I think you're you're eloquent. Description of the super or shows that the limited of the limited aspect of the super force, once the vacuum is opened up, gives rise to the limit lists. So you have this vast sort of you know, the direct sea as it's been called, and the other thing I wanted to mention for your audience, Ashton, And the reason I'm not going into describing all of these things is because we can spend hours just on one of the terms I brought up. But for those interested, the Sagnac effect sag nac. The Sagnac effect in certain conditions is an example of absolute rotation, and what I mean by absolute rotation is again arguably creating a sort of bubble or void around you that voids reality or the space time metric. And this is why, in my opinion as well, when people see craft and on their cameras, it's very blurry and things like that. They're just seeing the flat intersection because you were not seeing from the external over point a three spatial dimension and one time dimension that the occupants in the craft are seeing. Which is why I'd love to give a quick thought experiment, which is when people see craft, you know, for example, in a certain spot, how many stories where people have heard, oh my gosh, you know, the craft was there for six hours and it was just moving just a little bit here, just a little bit there. What if I'm not saying this is what it always is, but what if the craft the occupants inside the craft are sort of like playing through a movie reel different points in time in the same space. But from the external observer's point of view, time is just because time is just linear, so they don't see it. They're just like what, the craft has been there for six hours. But on the other side, why is that right, doctor Rossia? I want to ask you, and you okay, would you say time? Maybe? How should I say? An energetic property of nature which which basically makes it in such a way that everything doesn't happen in one How how would you define time yourself? Would you say? Physical time is real? It's not just something that's measured by clocks, but very real. Oh, I mean, here's the thing. There's a lot of stuff I want to say, but well, maybe after the streams out, because I know you basically, if the best example of time is tremendous, well one example for your audiences, yes, yes, oh my goodness, and you know what it talks to. It's interesting how all of a sudden, Professor Wolcheck is not in the public eye anymore, very very entightening. Yeah, let me just the way the way, So basically, for Ashton's audience, the best way I visualize time for those that may have seen the film Tenant by Crystal dealing with entropy, So the way I sort of visualize it without getting into the numbers and all of that is all around us right now. There are these longitudinal waves that are there, but they're also not at the same time. Now, each time we do something, there's sort of a it's kind of like a long slinky. Now, every time I pick up my pen and put it down, one loop has been completed, sort of like a film reel, and then you move on to the next one. And that these these loops like film reels, are moving like up and it's hard to That's the best way I can do it without giving away ecube things, if you know what I mean. So you know what really gets me Stargate the movie the way they open up, the way it actually shows what looks to be a water effect. Remember, yes, my goodness, whoever whoever advice for that movie, Yeah, knew something. Did you see that? Did you see that guy in Arizona open that portal allegedly on Fox News? No? Okay, but I just remember, it's just fascinating how how close the movie Stargate. Yes, the truth, Yes, exactly what would happen ef set. It makes it makes you think because even for example, it speaks to the possibility that there are anti versions of us, if that makes sense, and all of these different Yeah, it gets it gets interesting. But anyways, Ashton, I said, all my little pieces and parts and this can go in one hundred different directions, so wherever you'd like to take it. Yeah, So I think I want to start by saying that, you know, I want to shout out to Roy D. Herbert, who has his time dilation theory out there. We were just talking about our donation theories what it's called, right, and you know the big thing there is at times of fluid symmetry and time flows differently depending on how much mass you're near. Right, So I just want to reiterate there for that, for that for people, because I think now a lot of people understand the time dilation's real concept and are real proven thing that's out there. So when you guys are talking about time going slower faster for the observer versus occupant, this is all real concepts that have already been proved. Suck up actually quickly, For there have been cases of senescence And what I mean by that is there have been investigators that have seen that when a craft is close to some plants in a garden and the craft takes off, they go. The investigators approach the plants, and the plants of age three years in two minutes, and that speaks to acceleration, that speaks to seven. Yeah, let me bring it to something. There are a lot of people that may disagree with my statement, but there's great geniuses in a certain man that is not of a He is a doctor, but he's not of what I would call a physics pedigree. But if it wasn't for this man, I would have never known of Gabriel Kron. I would have possibly not even yes, and I believe he knows Eric Dollard as well. But anyway, I would have not really knew about Charles proteus Seinmetz. I would have not known of some very very great people. His name is Joseph P. Farrell, but Daryl maybe yea. He writes a book called Secrets of the Unified Feel that I I would like every one of your audiences to look into. He has the latest book called The Demon in the e Core. I believe the pronunciation is a core because it's Sumerian. Supposedly this was the gathering place of the seven gods of Suma, the Annu Naki, the children of heaven and Earth. But anyway, I will not bring it there. Just look into what doctor Joseph Taro Pharrell, I believe, has to say about plasma. It is extremely important because it talks to the orbs. These orbs may not just be featuring agi, but they may actually be some form of sentient life. For yeah, yeah, the line gets pretty blurred, right and when we start to figure out what even is sentience at that point. So I appreciate you guys in this intro kind of going through a lot of scientific concepts, especially for our academics who are following along, and then you know, I'm just been trying to break it down for our laymen who are out there as well like me, and I think it's just been mind blowing. We all also want to touch quickly on the holographic principle, that the idea that all this is only possible because our universe is a construct of sorts, and that the science then supports this idea of there there being this construct of this. If I can say quickly construct that can be perhaps unfolded and outfolded, if that makes sense. Yeah, I'm both hybrid of right. Remember the great line from and Oh I love this line, Oh please please and doudge me Ashton, I've always God for it, Go for it. If if a certain jacks are body is known as the Wolfman to certain physics circle, then I'm a hybrid half like a vampire. Both. Thank you. I like that movie. I'm going to throw another quote out here too, from something you said early on sal which you just reminded me, which is this quote that first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then they build monuments to you. Guys. So you know we're somewhere in the middle at this point, and we're working way towards to you a pullet surprise will not only be given, will have to be given. But I tell you you really have the tenacity and perspicacity over Sherlock Holmes combined with a patient and perseverance of a Saint Augustine. And why Saint Augustine, because I love what he had to say about time. It's all about that. So sir, we salute you both. Doctor Rassi and I salute you, thank you very much. I don't know how you do it. I tell you I could not put up with some of your detractors. Yeah, no name names. I've seen certain things that really truly pissed me off. And we're talking about soft body kind of piss me off. But I won't say that more than that. You know, not everybody is an idiot. Okay, I'll leave it there. Yeah. Yeah, And if you're talking about sake Augustine, I'm just gonna go ahead and quote that. One of his quotes is that God is love something to keep in mind, and love is God. So you know, it all kind of comes together. And uh, maybe that's a little bit of a sappy way, but I think that it's important that we treat one another with respect and dignity. Yes, I think it's it's it brings up the question, which is, if we were to quickly circle it back to these orbs, if they're having some type of plasma deployed around them, perhaps or you know, a Bose Einstein condensate or something like this, is it possible perhaps that they are interacting with the we could say, the direct sea of the quantum vacuum that transmits information from the non material to the material and is expressed through the actions of the orbs, which then makes one think, holy crap, is this alive so to speak? And that Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting. Yes, so let's you want to go look at your scientific experiments first. Uh sure, sure, yeah, I'm gonna while Ashton's pulling it up. I just want to be clear to brother sal and to the audience as well, what we are seeing here is not anti gravity. I want to be very clear. It's a form of magneto hydrodynamics using a superconductor. And Ashton, brother, before you play it, if you could just let me break down what we're seeing before we play it, go for it to give everyone. Just want to make sure is it everyone could see it? Oh yeah, I'm pulling it up right now, So I thank you, thank you. Okay, So very simple. What we have on the is a bowl, just a you know, like from the kitchen, an aluminum bowl that has inside of it a superconductor with a magnet in its Meisner state above it filled with liquid nitrogen. And that's it. Now. The bowl with the white wire is connected to a high voltage DC generator and then it connects back with the red wire to an electrode that creates a spark gap that we pulse the bowl with. Now we pulse the bowl and then at the below the is an electromagnet. We pulse the bowl with high voltage first, and then we pulse the electromagnet and we're going to see the effect that we'll see in a moment. If if you could play a brother, yeah, this looks pretty awesome and it looks like something that you get to knock on the door if you do this without permission. Just just I'm not going to I want to say very quickly that for those looking to replicate, you do need a specific type of how can I put it? Superconductor geometry, and I'm not going to reveal that detail or in any way educate the enemy. Right, So when the electromagnet is then pulsed, we'll see in a second, Wow, Wow, there's instant Now this is liquid hydrogen, liquid liquid nitrogen in the bowl. Yeah. Here, Now this thing's not flying. So it is the year behind this that we are seeing another mechanism of potential propulsion here that we're able to create by this force that is being exerted precisely. Yes, yeah, this My calculations have shown, for example, that this type of propulsion can get us to you know, for example, certain planets within days instead of months or years. Do you see what I mean by far from equilibrium phenomena? This is highly non linear. This is what you were talking about, the secondary effect. It's all about far from Listen to me, I have a feeling the trick here is the engineering of the pregogene effect. And it's not easy. It is not Again, plasma will not be subdued, it will not be coerse. It's extremely hard to deal with, right, asthma has a mind of its own period. Yes. Actually, one of the things that I, unfortunately for the sake of Ecube, will not be showing publicly, is it's interesting numbers. No, no, no, yeah, it's interesting to see if one implemented plasma to set up what happens. So I'll just leave it there. But yeah, yeah, especially a cold plasma, right, I'm not saying that. Yeah, right, this is really cool. Yeah, it's very My idea with this was very simple, very basic, kind of like the aeron off bomb effect. You know, it can very simple. It's not some fancy you got all these things going on, and just perhaps to show a second order effect. Now, this is again same concept where it's the superconductor is pulsed, and we'll see in this particular case, just the slow motion version of the instant lift off. Yeah, I love this. It goes backwards as well. Here effect This is not lens. This is net right, yep, definitely, But notice how it's almost instantaneous and it doesn't persist. It's a transient phenomenon based on that particular yeah, yeah, yep. So one of the reasons I wanted to show these videos to your lovely audience, asked in, is because I just want to show that, how can I put it, I want to encourage people to see that the simplicity is really the complexity is in the simplicity. But at the same time, I you know, for for various genuine national security and other reasons, I can't go past this point. But yeah, this just mentioned the material. Do not mention anything else, Please think no, no, no, pat Yeah, and I'm not a spy. None of us are spies here. We all love our countries and you know, all that stuff in general. So but we also just love science right, and we we I think we all believe that the science behind this should be made available to the public because for various reasons, but because it can change our world for the better. You know what, physic creation not the physics of destruction. What doctor Rossi has just shown is exactly that case in point and again it actually shows I'm sorry, brother Ashton, to just jump in like this, but I gotta say this. In my opinion, the most complex of problems has the simplest of solutions, yes, perspective the Again, the hardest of problems has the simplest of solutions, depending on perspective. But it is important. It is important to do away with a box, obliterate the box. Thinking outside the box should not again open system. Yes, if you remember, brother sal when I brought up on Ashton Brother Ashton's show open pac Man's Mouth, basically I love that analogy. That's that's good. Thank you will Ashton brother. Thank you for showing that. Hopefully it motivates some people in your in your audience to see that it doesn't. Sometimes it becomes so easy to bridge from theory to practicality if you take a d from perspective. On eighteen hundred's physics. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other thing. I think both you guys say that I you know, with somebody in the space I did yesterday, I was doing all review that you couldn't believe that all this is true because it goes against everything they've been taught for academia. Some people say this breaks their laws of physics. It does not break the laws of physics. We are taking the building block science as a matter of continuous learning and advancing on what we knew before and you know, kind of changing understanding of it. And that's where I think we're looking at here is we're taking the old physics and we're looking at with a new approach, with a fresh set of eyes. And that's how we can achieve what we're achieving here in these experiments, what both brothers Sal and ROSSI are talking about, as well as potentially what we're going to be looking at here in the MH three seventy videos. Yep. So people are calling me now ash in four orbs, and to be honest with you, I love it so please everybody's want to keep calling me ashing four orbs. I really like it like that. Like I said, Ashton, I'm not a betting man. I don't gamble, but if I were to bet money, I would bet big money. There was a fourth orb in that operation. You one and my my instinct, and I tell you very few times in my the only time in my life that I didn't listen to my physical instinct and I went really wrong. My instinct tells me you one on the money, there is a fourth orb. This is not a hypothesis. This is a real deal. So yes, action four orbs. I love it. Oh, let me just discuss a little bit. That black hole that you see. You you call it a portal. I call it the black hole, and it also talks. If you see carefully, there's like a refraction wave into the soup. Remember Curson one the idea, the way he describes that we most likely are living in a super fluid universe. Well, if you were that that that second ring around the black hole is like a refraction wave into the super fluid, which is why must go away. You do away with the atmosphere, and what you have is that super fluid that defines the quantum vacuum that you and I talk, It makes you think, look at the black hole carefully. I'm sorry that to ROSSI I'm sorry, I gotta talk to this before I forget. Remember, I'm of a certain age, if you know what I mean. That's that certain level of senility kicking in and I try to do. You know, I drink espresso like some people drink water. And I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about but anyway, Yeah, no, to have coffee with you guys, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be epic. Oh I have if you ever visit you know where, I'm not gonna mention. We gotta go to this place. Oh my god, they make you give you they actually, you know, like certain people don't give you the espresso and those little ceramic ups. You know that it's all over the ding. Oh my god, they still have that. They still have that. And your might it is. You have to smell it before you drink it. If you're talking, you're talking to you're talking to a cell. You're talking to Italian. You should see my grandmother. Oh I mean right anyway. Okay, So that black hole, it speaks directly to the temperatures. Okay, remember the genius of hockey, the idea, think what a black hole? A black hole A black hole is a structure, a space time structure. It resides at the intersection, at the intersection of quantum field theory, general relativity, and thermodynamics. And this was the genius of Hockey. He actually came up what the formula is, what h bar h bar c cubed because that's how the super force eventually comes in hbar s cubed divided by a pie big g times the mass the mass of whatever creates this black hole. So for example, a a a solar mass, say a solar mass black hole. Or give you a temperature on the order of ten to the minus seven degree skelvin. So we're talking about again the CNB the socoed cosmic micro background is an order of what two point seven degree skelevin, So yeah, about absolute zero. That if if say, if you were to trans to basically put the mass of this aircraft, just take that mass, put it in that formula. If like AODA, what ten to the minus three degree skelvin then to the minus force something of that nature. I'm pretty sure your audience can check me. Remember the formula hboq divided by eight pi big g times that mass. Okay, that's that's the genius. That's the temperature that well sorry times times the times the mass or the mass density. Sorry, it's it's on the bottom and the denominator. It's eight pi big g mass the mask the mass most likely in kilograms because if if you look at the units right, yeah, h bar is what it's on the order of h ten to the minus thirty four du seconds. Because it's really we talk about quantum of action. What is bar it's all about it's a reduced quantum of action. But it's got like six point three times ten to the minus thirty four. But if you do the reduced, it's got two pi on the bottom to bump bumb right, So you get them to the minus thirty four due seconds on the top and you do the math on the c Q. Anyway, the idea being the idea being that this is in between CMB and on the order of ten to the minus three helven. That's why you see that in that that incredible intrinsic blackness. Truly, it's all the makes it makes you think, as it makes you think as well to Ashton and to brother Ashton and your audience. Brother, it makes you think from the perspective of scaling in fractals. What if perhaps these craft these things we see are inducing effects that are miniature versions of what we may be within. Perhaps this is just speculation, just the thought, uh thought experiments, but it speaks to this idea that perhaps again these are smaller versions, the same way that these flat space time models are subsets of higher models. Arguably we have to wonder is it possible that when we scale this up, the super force can then be tapped and do things way more than what we see here. Actually, but they no more just one thing to add and nothing else after that. Because I have a feeling that we're about to give numbers and numbers not required, right right, But what if from a general physics perspective, what if there's a way to notch the super forts at a different scale than the plank scale. Look carefully look carefully at slide eight in that AI double a side Tech twenty nineteen that Ashton has on the MH Street seventeen board. Look carefully at that at that AI double presentation, Slide eight talks to something called solving the vacuum catastrophe. There's something I want to say, but I'm not going to say itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm completely with itself, by the way, completely yeah. And you guys didn't see this earlier, but I was posting the flight path, the MH three seventy expert post flight path, and I think it's very interesting that we've come to similar conclusions. I just lost it now, but I had it up a second ago, and that flight path we have we can see in these videos. Actually it looks like in the final frame when the ZAPP begins to happen, the plane actually moves backwards a little bit and you talk. We got to talk to the ZAPP because we talk about accretion disk. Remember black holes. Everybody saying, how come you You know, in the thermograph you're seeing totally black, but in the other one, in the real image, you're seeing this tremendous flash of light. Yes, this look at black hole the thermodynamics. Come on, okay, I need today. I'm sorry. Yeah, are you going Are you speaking to the clocking radiation or are you speaking to just the accretion disk around a black hole when you speak when you say that, because I was actual gonna ask why you think there's a flash neg entropy perhaps as well that's possible as well. Yeah, yeah, so a couple of possible reasons. And yeah, I was going to try to pull it back up again. But if we think, sorry, if we think one last thing, if we think of the quantum vacuums as sort of like a negative resistor, perhaps these effects on a grander scale would explain that perhaps, right, Yeah, and I was showing the chat as well our proposed route. You guys can't see it at the moment, but it's interesting because in the zapp right as it occurs, and I'll go to the slow mo here as well so that you guys can see it a little bit better, you can actually see that the plane seems to move backwards a little bit, which I think would go to the point that you guys, here's one you can see this. This is the plane here, but look at it. It's getting sucked backwards. If you do the overlay over it, you can see it being pulled backwards slightly, which could indicate that maybe the fourth orb is in the direction of travel that's backwards where it's being pulled back, just as you would like that sling shot that you guys were just plastic band, right, So that's interesting because we've got this flight path that I'm pulling up that is currently overlaid over the screen on my stream. And if this plane's going to the east, and this plane is getting pulled back, then it would be getting sucked back towards the west, which actually puts it over here in the Indian Ocean, which I'm not going to speak to exactly where this is, but it happens to be a location where we think the plane might have gone. So that's just very interesting theory for our people in the chat, people who are our investigators out there that are looking into this. So let's speak a little bit about more about the orbs, because I think the orbs are the most interesting part about these videos. I mean very If I could say one more thing before we go into the orbs, I say this very serious, but also in a joking way. Uh, brother cell I need we have to find a way one day at some point to get in the lab together or something. Absolutely we must, but it has to be done in such a way that maybe for a crowd or something we need. We need the higher ups. Ye maybe in the whatever. It doesn't have to be just the do O D could be the intelligence community, realizing that we know what we're talking about, right, bringing us in and as a think tank, right, because I'll tell you right of that, brother, what I think is coming, and I will not go into politics. But I'm also a student of history, right, and I think what is coming is is very, very, very almost surreal things that you could not imagine the United States going through. I think will happen to the United States. And I am very afraid that our enemies are forming as we now are having. This is beautiful, this beautiful gathering of the mind. They're forming an unholy alliance. Right, Let's just leave it at that. But does this does this have to take I'll leave it. I'll leave it very vague. Here does this have to do with an event starting with the letter A? I will give absolutely no clues as to what I have in my thoughts. Brother Rossie, I know you and I and and brother Ashton, we think alike in many ways. You you know what I'm alluding to. Yeah, okay, so I got vibrates and a certain frequency I got, you know, without scary, Brothers, It's scary because these people have us in the crosst and I do not understand the hatred. How can you hate this much? We all homo sapient sapien. That's another thing that excuse my language, pisses me, pisses me to know. And why must this be? E T tech? Are you saying that homo sapient sapient is not is not capable of such grandeur of thought, no draft of n key And if you go back so Marion times, you'll understand what I'm talking about, and I will has certain creativity, inventive purpose in mind. We are capable of such things and maybe even grander. So please enough for the et tech. It's funny you say said it's funny way you say. Why you say this? So because I was saying to Ashton just yesterday that, in my opinion, when Tucker Carlson a few nights ago did that big premiere about UFOs, I would have preferred he said that laid out the different options. Maybe some of it's ours, maybe some of it's not, but not to take a job at him. But he seemed to be very sure that it's not ours. And that's why I'm saying we have to we have to watch because I would make a bet, humbly that some of it is yeah, and if I could just jump in as well. Not only did I think the same thing as brother ROSSI here about the Tucker piece with Burshet, I also had posted a piece from Matt Matt Gates from these uIP hearings, and he posted the same clip just a few days ago, and the part that astonished me was he said, this is clearly non human technology and I'm just going looking at it, not according to my evidence, not according to the people I've been talking to. That scared me because it told me that Congress is completely in the dark about what's going on. Matt Gates was the one to saying I'm the only person who's seen this, and I'm going, okay, well, then nobody really gets the implications here of what we have going on. I don't think people. I think people have underappreciated how much progress has been made and how little the public has been shown that progress. I think that's why I think that we need to form a new alliance, right, an alliance of people of the minds like we have here that can fight back against the tyranny and oppression that's trying to hold us back, that we can get this information out, get it to our lawmakers who seem to be completely in the dark about it. I don't think personally we need more UAP hearings. I think we need conspiracy hearings, and that the people that are hiding this information from us, and we need to get it out in a way to Sal's point that is safe, that is going to not lead to the ruin that I think that you know. Ultimately, that's the conclusion that I am coming to in my mind. We need to come to a way where we use it for the good and where we can boundary and regularly for the good of humanity as a whole, not just weaponizing this technology to the destruction of Earth right not benefit any of us. We either unification, not polarization. That is the only way to save this godly nation, ourisation. We must come together, otherwise we shall perish apart. Period. So frame that I want to talk a little bit more about the videos and then we can kind of philosophize a little bit more if you guys want. But I have questions for you guys that I want to I want to ask and I want to understand better. So some people in the chat actually mentioned they think that these orbs have two toroids per orb in them. So a toroid is this donut shaped, very kind of continuous like doughnut within a donut type of shape. And I'm just curious if if you guys agree with that, or how you would explain the toroidal could they are? You can tell me did I hit at something? Anyway, Please go ahead and elaborate for us, because I think somebody mentioned that they're spinning counterclockwise. I will let professor discuss. Oh my gosh, look to spend counter clock life because I want to say something. But as far as you and I are no different, you and I are the same pedigree. Why because we vibrate on the same frequency, we understand each other. The three of us are truly. Put it this way, all for one, one for all. Remember quantum here system of the Musketeers. Alexandre Duma was a poly creative genius and a great man, a great man of philosophy, because he understood her medic principle all is one, one is all right. Without this belief, everything goes to ship. Yes, yes, beautifully said. To answer your question or the audience's question, Ashton, I'll be honest. I don't mean to be so you know, maybe this may be that, but I would be certain there's toroidal geometries occur ring now I would. Honestly, I don't want to say that I know more about it unless I had to look at one of them, like in the lab or something. So I don't want to say I know for sure there's a There are things I'm sure of conceptually, but I don't know how those particular orbs were engineered, so it's a little difficult for me to say I'm certain toroids are involved. What kind of rotate in royals is something that I heard. That's just I'm just gonna keep that. Why do you think, do you? I'm sorry, brother Ashton, sometimes I will do that and and and please forgive me, I truly, but I have the tendency. And they told me at work too, you got to stop interrupting at I a bad you know, and I'm I'm going to try to do better, but I gotta get this again. Smility setting in, so I gotta get it out before I forget it. Now, the whole idea, do you remember how these orbs right before the event occurs, right before that black hole opens up? More than what not teleportation right before then the the the probe, the orbs start doing what they pulsate the medium around the craft, right yeah, yeah, I mean when they're ringing, when they're spinning around it in the ring formation. Don't take it further. Yeah yeah, no need sorry Ashton, when breakdown back and bring us When I go like this, Ashton, it's basically me trying to find ways to describe it without giving away an actual secrets basically. But if we ever meet and do you guys ever do do that meet up? We're in the lab, you know, to be a conscients observer, even if I have to sign it, yeah might, I might be ware to do it for me. I will have to be careful. It will have to be a skill for some sort I know everybody. Look, I like a lot. I think what he's been putting up whether is absolutely again yeah, let's not forget Alexander, what he has been going through. I mean, these are people that one day will be called heroes, but until that point, they will be called what they're called today. Right. Unfortunately, that is the way we are, That's that's the way of humanity. It's exactly what brother Ashton was saying earlier. First they will call you a crack pack. Then they will, you know, and eventually they will say that was their idea all along. It's true. So and it's like in the it's like in the movie very quickly, like in I think it was Ford versus Ferrari, where the CEO of Ford or the big financial backers he leaves before the race starts, and he only he said, He goes, I'm only coming back if we win, and then they win. He comes back and he pretends like he's orchestrated the whole thing. He goes, hey, yeah, yeah. So I want to ask a few questions on this and then we can kind of just talk off the tough. I appreciate all the discussion we've been having. I think that people enjoy probably the discussion about disclosure as well. We've got a lot of people that are part of those communities. Here. One first thing I want to ask, it's kind of fundamental, which is what is breaking the swinger limit? Is this what's required in order to in this frame here we see begin this singularity that we're seeing. If I could say, very quickly for me visually it's you, then I'll go sure, already out there, So I'll give numbers because as a matter of fact, Eric W. Davis, Doctor Eric W. Davis, and Mark Miller speak of this in Frontier is our propulsion science, which, by the way, wait wait right before we break off into what you have to say, I have to say this for the glory of mankind and the ability is homo sapient sapient to actually say, you know what, we can do this et tech and we can do better. For that glory and that glory alone, we must learn of new propuls and methods to do away with these uh, these these these oversized action reaction do boats. For lack of a better terms, I'm second part of freaking seeing starship whatever you want to call it. I want to see enterprise. I don't want to see you know anyway, I'll just leave it there. Sorry, I sure breaking the Shwinger limit. And I say this just for the sake of trying to do my best to translate to for those not as scientifically oriented. And please, brother Sell, tell me if this is not a good way to put it to me. The Shwinger limit is turning is basically getting a square to spin fast enough to where it eventually becomes a circle. And I'm oversimplifying like crazy, but that's kind of for those maybe not as uh. The analogy is beautiful from a spatial temple geometric structure point of view, and I agree with it in many ways. But I like in this point of view since they've given numbers, Since Eric W. Davis and Mark Millis have given numbers in Frontiers Frontiers of Propulsion Science. It's an AI double a compendium. It's a heavy volume, but it's it's the beautiful book. And I know Eric W. Davis is not exactly how should I say a fan of mine? But I can say that in some ways I'm a fan of his. So there you go. So so doctor Davis, if one day you find it in your heart to say, maybe this guy is not such a crap ut out anyway. So the whole idea is we're talking about energy densities, really energy densities, and you or ten to the twenty five jewels permit a cue that translates again if you think of the point in Dector the man and and doctor John Brandenburg knows the the the the essential importance of the pointing vector. The the brand Mura equations of GM theory are very interesting. They should be looked into. And I believe that the Branderburg will one day also be hailed as a hero of alternative quote unquote, will become propulsion science, advanced property. Let's not call it alternative, let's call it advanced propulsion science. There you go. So the whole, the whole idea being your the magneto of your pointing vector would be and the order of of speed of light times excellent zero the electric field strength square. Okay, so basically your electro magnetic energy flux that talks to that energy density I gave before you over to tend to the thirty three. What's forer me the square? I ask you, do you think that's easy to do on lab especially in someone's garage. No, no, exactly, not use in an electrically charged system. But there are ways. There are ways. Again, where there's a will, there's a way. There are no conditions. Where there's a will, there's a way. There are no impossibilities. There are no physical impossibility, just conditional possibilities. The trick you will know that, THESI. The trick is to find that engineering condition whereupon you can actually do this in the garage. But I strongly advise against it, right, because I think you will find a team of experts that are ready to how should I say, you put an MP to your experimentation. That's funny. That was my next question, which was what would it take to reproduce this privately and how quickly would the government come down on us? So it sounds like I'm just going to be very open I do. This is one of the ways that actually the way that I practically got noticed was because I did exactly what brother sal said about two two and a half years ago. And I know it's going to sound crazy to some people, but they can pick up gravitational waves. They have sensories, of course they can, and thank God for it. Could you imagine could you imagine the enemy and our territory engaging and anything else, but the teller tactically forget that. There are other ways to achieve great harm. Thank God, have ways of detection. Yes, listen to me. We must be on the side of the good guys, en And that's what I'm saying, he cubed. We must not educate and in any way enlighten the enemy. General general, no numbers, and for goodness sake, don't try this in your garage, right, I say that who knows, you know what I know? If I have to go wrong right and accidentally do something certain things I won't I won't say here publicly, but I'm certain Brother sal and Brother Ashton, I know they know for fact. But yeah, there's certain things where if certain things went the wrong way, I wouldn't be here. I'm just being very honest. Yeah. So the other thing, if I could point out very quickly from the science perspective, quickly for your audience at Ashton, is that we have to realize as well, from the theory side, just the theory with no numbers or anything, when we look at the pointing vector, is it possible maybe that the potential for the pointing vector is maybe infinite, because when you see some of these textbooks that talk about, you know, for example, certain things like you know, the magnitude of a potential for example both feel and the magnetic field and matter, But what gives rise to those and you know, yeah, the potentials itself. This is the genius of aaron of bone. Yes, again, this is where Rovelli is going. Great and doctor Rovelli, if you ever listen to this, keep on going, brother, but be very careful because certain theoretical things could be put into practice by very nefarious agents. Yeah, we have to watch our brother, We have to watch out because there are a lot of people who want to take the easy path, and the easy path is always to a destruction. It is extremely hard to create, it is very simple to destroy. We when we talk, when we talk about macroscopic quantum coherence, that's particles making love. When they when the particle when the particles dance, Yes, when when the when the particles, when the particles fight, Like I said on your show, asked, when the particles fight, they create what we call explosions. And that's the thing we don't want to do. Basically, Yeah, harmonious resonance. Harmonious resonance. Remember remember what Tesla was able to do when it's freaking upon and using what an acoustic hydraulically this is a nomadic of nomadic device fascillator. Oh my goodness. He had to basically break it down. And this thing was about ye you said, remember pneumatic, it was nomadic, it was air driven. Look up, look up what I'm talking aboud? You hear? Did you hear? My rant? Did you hear My rant On Ashton's thing with the pneumatic the yeah, yeah, yeah, brother, if you know what you're doing, you can do marvels. Put it this way. A pencil can kill you if you know where to put it. Yeah, if you know what I mean. Yep, what I would say if if Jeremy's out there, we've been talking about trying to do experiments. Sounds like, uh, you know, theoretically you get done, but we should be very careful if we do that, and very careful. Well, I wanted to actually ask sal and this is also for everybody watching live too. I would love your opinion, brother, sel on the how do we and I'm not saying I have the answer to It's very hard. How do we make how do we make scientific progress and publish in papers so others can see without you know what I'm saying like, this is the problem. That's the this between you and I. Yeah, advances of this nature. That's why I keep everything I do theoretical. You will never say you think I don't have experimental know how who do you think put together the higher energy electromagnity generation? They ran and trust me, that team, that team, that team, and we talked about fifteen people. Tops. They're the they are so smart, a lot of them just out of college. There was one guy will not name names, but this guy is amazing and his put it this way. His last name is the name of a great, great, great actor that I loved. So anyway, this I'll call him kid because compared to me, he was a kid, very intelligent dude. And every one of them was so interested. But again, all we could do is get an attend to the minor stay huma, because it's not about solid electrically charge systems, as you will know, it's about other systems and other things. Just leave it there. But again, please do not try this in your garage, because all you gotta do if God forbid, what happens. If your neighbor next door is not exactly how should I say, does not have the love of the nation in mind, but it is an agent of a certain foreign entity, then what what are you gonna do? Yeah, again, there's no need to enlighten and educate the enemy. We have far too many, right, far too many, no need for that. Us teleport the coffees to me so I don't have to go pick. Could you imagine what Amazon would do. Oh, you know, you just think about it. It's on your front door, you know, as a matter of fact, you think about it's in front of you. That anyway, all of the That's why I brought up the first example for the ladies on Ashton's show, because you know how often you know, both the men and but especially women would love to go and so, oh my gosh, I forgot something at home and just reach in and grab it through a portal or something. Absolutely somebody was actually offended by that and then made a comment to you, Dave and said that they said you need to trim your beard. Oh I left it up. I didn't remove fun. If it means anything you'll be is absolutely great. It's wonderful. We love it. I don't grow mine because even at my age, but even I'm such a fat faced I got zits all at my age. Can you imagine? So that's what I mean. But you're old that hot, but you're forty five. Oh you just want to be my best friend. But anyway, no, no, I'm a I'm all broke. So a couple more questions for you guys, and then we can just kind of shoot the breeze for a few minutes. One that's been asked by somebody who's been a top donator the last couple of days, and I feel like it's important. And if you guy don't feel comfortable answering in detail, that's fine. But he wants to know. Is energy density achieved by amplifying plasma through a to royal pattern containment field so the the free electrons resonate with the underlying temporal wave function? Can you guys speak to that at all? Dude, okay, let me go first, and then you okay, please again look at equation seven in the I Tripo L Transaction on Plasma science paper called Plasma Compression Fusion Device Equation seven exactly to what this gentleman, by the way, very very aerodype very intelligent man, very highly educated in the physics of things. Let me just leave it there rather ROTSI all you now, could you could you repeat the question Ashton? I just want to make sure, yeah, yeah, one more time. So one of my questions there is energy densities. Are they achieved by amplifying the plasma through to roidal pattern containment field so that the free electrons resonate with the underlying temporal wave function. Hopeful I'm saying that correctly. Maybe I apologize it's complicated. Yeah, yeah, I apologize. It's possible there might be something there, there might not. We I don't know. It's it's hard to say. Okay, sounds you're talking when you're talking driver driving any sort of plasma, especially a cold one and non thermal. So we're talking about a plasma whose electrons do not obey a Max or Bozmann distribution. Whenever you drive anything of that nature, a power from equilibrium, especially at certain frequencies that what do you think will happen? Especially? Remember remember remember I asked everyone to read the nineteen seventy three It's a short it's a short Nobel lecture by Ilia Prigoshi. Yes, schemistry, Nobel Prize, non equilibrium someone and AMX nineteen seventy three called time comma structure fluctuations. Read it and read it very carefully, because this man was a pure genius. And people don't realize that the strength of engineering the precusion effect, especially dissipated structures. Remember that, gentlemen and ladies, dissipated structures. I think the plasma is plasma is a non liniu medium, especially one that obeys a certain non Maxwellian anyway, I would say, perhaps to your to your your, your lovely gentleman, there Ashton that asked the question, perhaps look into uh and on the two papers I'm going to mention here, please read the original copies, not what someone wrote about them. You have to look at the source, do not. I agree with you want to write Lee and Yang the paper that won them the Nobel Prize in nineteen fifty seven, as well as a paper very difficult to find by E. T. Whittaker from nineteen oh three. I would say them, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking. Yeah. Yeah that that interestingly, isn't it weird how people hardly even know of their existence? Yeah? And again again Homo sapient sapient are extremely creative. Just give us a chance. It doesn't have to be right. Get ready for the next question. Yeah. Sure. This is one that I think that just from a investigative standpoint, people want to know is could people survive this event that we've seen in these videos? You know, if you are inside this airplane, are those people gonna be able to survive us? Is there a potential where you can have a field around the object that can protect them. And I'm now thinking about Salvathorpius's patent for trans medium craft and inertial is the question if they were in that plane or in any in this particular plane here or I mean, I guess if we want to speak more hypothetically, we can, you guys can address the question anyway you want. I think that, and I want to go ahead at this point as well and extend my condolences to the families. The reason why I do this investigation is because I want to get the real answers for these families that they haven't been given. Whether that whatever that answer is, I don't know right, And my opinion is too that even upon getting to this point, I think that the chance of survival is pretty low in general, just because of the circumstances that we've uncovered from the investigation. But people still want to know, you know, can you survive this? Now? What I'll preface as well saying is that I read a few wormhole papers before I met you guys that said that we don't need exotic matter to create a wormhole, that wormholes are humanly traversible in the sense that the gravitational forces would not kill someone. And that the third one is that you could create a double sided electromagnetic shell that could allow for an object to safely transport through one without being ripped to shreds. So would you guys agree, I guess with that concept in those theories. Yeah, look at the latest papers on written by Malta Senna on the subject and also a certain professor Lisa Randall. Very interesting lady, very very intelligent. Let's just leave it at that. Yeah. Ye. One thing I can say in general, all right, One thing I can say in general is that you can be from the inside of the craft. I mean, people talk about, you know, these craft having all these jeep strong g forces and all of that. It's of my opinion that you don't experience any of that from the inside. Now, with that said, I say that carefully because it also depends on it might depend on the outline of the craft. And that's why it's hard for me to say about the plane in particular. I would not to put them on the spot, but I would rather have brother sal maybe see if hypothetically salo would that be survivable in that plane or would you need more protective coating. Remember, remember, please remember, remember that at the bottom of all this we talked about human life, and we talk about families that have been greatly impacted by this. If God forbid, anybody that else related to would have been on that plane, I would not even be able to stomach listening to this podcast. I will tell you the truth, no matter how interesting the physics may be, because it's a human condition. Man. Yeah, these are emotions we you know, So I cannot come in my thoughts on my own. Just remember one thing exactly what Brother Ashton said. God is love. God is love. That's what mays Saint Augustine so incredibly awesome. I love Satiist, not just because he said what he said about time. But remember God is love. There's no need to come in forever. That's fine. I think I agree with that. Now, let's go in something that's a little bit more less controversial, which is around the technology. In terms of getting it out there, I think that this is the big quiet in the discussion that needs to be had, which is how do we get this out there? What type of treaty or international agreement do you guys think would be necessary in order to safely deploy this type of technology for just say, the energy purposes. Let about let me take this, sorry to interrupt, Okay, let me take this. You remember, I think in your first interview I brought up the idea of weaponization of the physicists. How you bring them over in a special room whereupon, let's call it, let's not use the E word very strong, let's call it adversary potential friend of you. Just sit him down, you show him certain things. Okay, his physicist looks it over. Your physicist talks over, goes blah blah. Eventually again the physicists, their physicists, turns to the commander. The commander salutes, goes outside, the political representative comes in, and all of a sudden, we have peace on earth. This is what I'm talking about. An eraan epach of de Terrens, is feasible by basically bringing the adversary in on these things and actually saying, look, we either destroy each other or together we build a better world. Because I will tell you that I am one hundred percent sure, and I do not need anybody out there. I don't need the well I will not name names, but I don't need them for them to let me know that possible the Earth has enemies out there in intergalactic space, because I'll tell you right off the bad, this so called third rock from the Sun, it is such a beautiful place, natural resources, we have so many things. You think the apple of the eye has not put it this way sense, the certain eye of Sarah all of a sudden turning toward us as a whoa, I want that. So that's what I'm saying. Only by coming together will we be able to stop what I think? Is it not on the way already here in some shape or form or that forbid? Yeah, I don't want to make it too bleak, so I'll just leave it there. Answer from my perspective, sort of adding to what Salva was saying, is I'm reminded of the scene in Oppenheimer, the recent film where Oppenheimer goes to Einstein and there I'm not spoiling this for anyone's just heads up. There was at one point a calculation made by Edward Teller which indicated that perhaps when they set off the bomb, even during the atomic bomb during testing, they would cause a chain reaction that would ignite the atmosphere. So what Oppenheimer did was he saw Teller's equations and he said, holy shit, this may happen. So what he did was, he goes, I'm going to speak to the one person in the in this field of physics I disagree with the most, which is Einstein, to get the which is the best thing if, for example, if sal and I disagreed, I actually want to work with sal moore because we disagree. But anyways, he then Oppenheimer goes to Einstein and says, what do we do? Like, what do we do about this? Einstein says, if this is true the chain reaction, He goes, you stop now, and you show the Nazis and you so both of you don't destroy the world basically now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that do I I don't mean either come together. Oh we shall definitely perish a part. Yeah, right off the bat. I have a feeling. I have a feeling that Earth has far more dangerous enemies than we have on it, right, that's my opinion. I agree an instinct a little Bertie in my head. And I don't mean to be so conspiratorial, but what if maybe some of these for series have a right in front of us and we don't know it. It's yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's funny. I did not expect you guys to have those opinions, although I mean I didn't know exactly what your opinions would be. My opinion is bliss if I if I could, sometimes it's better be stupid. I'll tell you the truth. This is Here's honestly that Ashton. I say this to you in your audience, and I don't. I'm certain I don't need uh. Sal doesn't need to hear this because he knows better than me. From where I stand, from where I have equal fooding. Remember, I really need what I say. You and I have the same pedigree. That's why I call you dock to Rossie. I believe standpoint I have that ability. Now. Whether it's true or not, I leave it to my betters, but I think of you as that total level. I think you would have survived a certain PhD qualifying event that makes people cry, makes grown people cry. I appreciate everybody should go through it one time in your life to see what how should I say it puts you in your place? Yes, right, very much. Well. One of the things, Ashton is I wanted to say and forgive me to the audience if this sounds like a bleak sort of answer. But one of the reasons I think brother Sally and I are speaking publicly like this is because we're so frustrated with what we're seeing behind the scenes. And I say that carefully, but this is where it's a tough thing. I'm of the view, humbly. I don't think any of this stuff for now is going to come out and everything's going to be happy and everyone's going to be fine. I wish. But have you seen have you seen something recent from someone that I hold in great respect because I know is origins Senator Chuck Schuman. Yes, they plan if you look at that amendment, Yeah, for the next twenty five years. Am I wrong? And what I understand this will never see the light of day. This, this kind of physics will never ever see the light of day. And trust me, if a certain event in the past that I will not name, but every bad day and this stream will know exactly what I'm talking about, if that particular event can basically go from epoch to epoch never having been declassified, Right, you think this this sort of physics will just no need to answer that, but maybe not not to put you on the spot. But maybe one day style we should do a paper together on the super force. A different, a different effort. I'm trying to work with some now with doctor brand of Murg. Him and I are trying to come up with something and engineering the super fors. He he knows a lot more people. Again, he's of the physics pedigree, he's a plasma physicist. He's not on the past. And remember what he said about Mars, remember ZENA twenty nine. Yes, yes, yeah, if if just half of what he's come up with is correct, Yeah, you're talking about civilization with amnesia. A certain person says, but thank god, we are a civilization with amnesia. Perhaps we came from Mars and we destroyed Mars, and that's where we're at. Now. That's the theory that I've wondered about a lot. I know. That's what your friend is right, is that this is a sort of prison planet prison planet hypothesis definitely an interesting one. I think that's why I like talking to you guys, because you're extremely smart and you come to a lot of same conclusions that which goes Yeah, a lot of some stuff that I think about from the last five years. If I count address a couple of comments you guys made as well, and you guys can keep going and think that. One thing is that I try to imagine if people are in there doing these advanced experiments, maybe you guys are some of these as well. I mean, just imagine the mindset of somebody who goes and sees I have to say this because you're asked him. You create a beautiful environment for me to say this is not to anyone in particular. Do you know what it's like to be in a lab working on something dare I say, magical? And then you leave that lab and then you've got to go on in a car or in a plane run by oil and you see everyone that it's I think I kind of relate to it. I've been going on through that ontological shock myself, just looking at this as somebody who's just a normal person. Four months ago, right, and then I had this happen to me while I was sitting at the airport, and I'm just looking at everybody staring at their phones, realizing that the world can be a completely different place. Everybody's absorbed in their own little reality. And you know, this is where I thought of you, Dave and Sal as well, where it's like we've got people out there that are looking at the technology because that can change the world, and then they've got to go back to their normal life in reverse. This is part of the reason why I don't think I can go back to a normal life after this either. It's just it's so much to take in, right, and so much to think about. What are the implications? Brothers, let me have your take on this. I'm gonna put something out There's something that's being said a lot lately that that bothers me. Someone see if you resonate with what I have to say. They keep on saying that data is the new oil. I believe back in the eighteenth century, or rather nineteenth century, at the cusp Off, at the transition thereof, they used to say that oil, or rather yes, oil is the new call. Do you see the transference because I see alternativeive energy being the new oil, not data. You see what I mean. It's as if on purpose we're being derailed. Yes, yes, anyway I want if I could say as well, one of the things I find so interesting is when you look at that, it's almost we're seeing For example, I'm in I'm in Canada right now, and in Canada they're trying. There's a business model some companies are trying where, for example, you buy the car, but you rent the battery like a Netflix subscription, and you can never own the battery. And this this is interesting because this can go very good and also very bad. In my opinion, it's very Yeah, it's it's hard. It's hard the idea that your everything is like a Netflix subscription. For me personally, I don't know, especially when you look at and I brought this up before, but it makes one wonder. Before World War One, we see these images, the ones that haven't been edited, world War two and even before, of these pneumatic forms of transportation, and it makes you think, where the hell is that today? Like it really makes you think. And I say that carefully, but people were sending messages and you know, you could see these old paintings and even schematics of they put their cat in a tube and this is just compressed air for transportation. So it makes you think. And even that's not even talking about potential anti gravity and all these other beautiful things. Just compressed air, Like, yeah, you could do a lot. For example, sound as you know, something something that you said in your podcast with With with Ashton Immediate at this point, at that point in time, when you said, what what if the phone on is a spin too? It spoke? I mean acoustic levitation. Again, you are of a certain mindset, sir. I'm not kidding. If I wore a hat, I would take it off. And that's why I put it, Doctor ROSSI. I don't say that to be funny. I want to thank you. I want to thank you so much about Christmas pedigree. A person's origins mean nothing if what they have achieved, it's what they have achieved, the level of intelligence, the level of intellegt they have been able to achieve, that should matter. It's something that I hear Ashton say a lot that it's it's not who you want, it's what you have to say that matters. I would take someone if I'm hiring employees, I would take someone with heart over someone with ten degrees. That's just me. But so yeah, well, so one thing I want to say quickly. First off, thank you a million times over. But for me it was very simple. I went on Google and I look and I go, what is uh a phone on? What spin is it? And it says, Google says it's a spin zero, and that made no sense to me at all. I said, what the hell is this? And you know, how how can a vibration of a crystal labs? So you know, do you know who could settle all this? And I'm pretty sure in some lab somewhere, maybe just theory somewhere, Professor Welcheck is doing some unbelievable work. Professor Wilcheck, if you ever listen to this, you've ever hear of this, if someone says you got to look at this, whatever you're doing, I wish I was involved with, and doctor Rossi here was involved with, and Ashton was involved with, because we really belong in the world. Brother. Yeah, a couple more, couple more comments I want to make. I think we can start to wind it down, but I know we will definitely talk again and we can. You guys are welcome back on hard Trews anytime you want. I do want to say a couple of things too, just my own opinions on some couple of things, which is that I don't think the government will ever give us disclosure, like you guys mentioned with Chuck Schumer and the amendment going through there, you know the timeframe for this stuff happening. It's never going to happen. I think they may think that it's national security. It's got to be forced by our hand. And the other thing I want to say is, if I was president, I would be seeking peace with every country, even our enemies, because when I look at this technology, as you guys mentioned, I think the ultimate answer for how we get this information out there is we have to have peace amongst human race entirely, because otherwise we all want to go hungry. Yeah, there's no need for to be hungry. There's no one, no need for anyone to be homeless. There's no reason why we should have wars and be fighting amongst one another which are just for money. Like this, we should end this and we should be looking globally. I want to just read part of JFK's Moon speech, just a few lines from it for everybody right now, and he says, but why some say the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why thirty five years ago fly to the Atlantic. We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade, and the other and the other things, because not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills. Because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone. And therefore, as we ask got we, as we set sale, we ask God's blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous and greatest adventure that man has ever gone. I think about that almost every day with respect to this technology and why. I think he was a visionary at his time and saw what the world would look like one hundred years from then if he was allowed to do what he wanted to do, I think everything would be different. In my opinion, that's my that's my opinion he was going to do. So yeah, yeah, I completely. It's sort of like the the quote from Equalizer number two when the young kid asks Denzel Washington why me? Why me? And Denzel's he goes, why not you? And that's my That's the way I see it. Why not? If I ever if I was ever asked, would you like to live in apparel reality? Do you know which one. I would choose one in which Jeff Case still alive. Mm too. And that goes to one point that people had in the chat, which is about time travel in general. And I think that you can't break causality. But if we're talking about string theory, which is what Salvatrpius is talking about just now, is that there may be alternate realities and others timelines. Right, So we can't really rule anything out, especially when we're dealing with what appears to be essentially imagine be looked into again, Please, someone out there, the great minds. We're talking about Witten, we're talking about a stromingerl we're talking about the Gross, we talk about will Check, we're talking about Green, we're talking about hack. Why not? Okay, fine that equation, Fine, have it your way. If that's what it takes. Fine, Please look into this super forced thing. Look into it and see whether you can adapt to your ideas, because I think this may crack it. We may actually be at the cusp of a third revolution in strings, and strings may actually be the final ultimate theory. And I'm sorry that to Weinstein. I know what you think of strings, but let's give strings another another goal. It might just be in Weinberg's in Weinberg's own words, dreams of a final theory. If I could say quickly Ashton, with regards to the causality comment, I I would be I would revisit that in terms of the notion of you know, reordering causality via entropy. And to give a practical example, very quickly, remember that case many months ago, maybe you guys heard about it or not where it was. Some family claimed that there were aliens in the backyard and they heard all these footsteps. And in Las Vegas, I think it was what if? It's what if? I'm not saying this is what happened, but what if when they claim they heard footsteps, but it sounded like thousands of footsteps, what if that was just the footsteps of two beings, let's say, but the people the family was experiencing those events all at once, and so they heard all of the footsteps that otherwise would have been linear, you know, step forward, step forward, step forward, but they heard all of it at once in one sort of causal notion. It makes you think about maybe you can reorder the arrangement of things. For example, I think my, my, and this is crazy as speculation. This is beyond speculation. So please guys, the great ones will ever, which I doubt, but if they do, you never know. Some sometimes some day drawing their growth written will check again, will listen to this podcast? What if what if h our understanding of reality is completely how should I say infantile? What if our senses are not truly walken up to the possibilities of true existence? Well, for example, there's one incident that that there's one thing that that in my mind. Have you ever heard of the Gin d j I n n y in Islam? Their thought of was quasi demonic, but not quite. They were the first. They were the first brought forth by by God. They were the first creator, before us, before humans. The Gin supposedly were creatures of smoke and fire. Doesn't that sound like plasma to anyway? Just leave it there. There's things, They're things we must be open to. Yes, do we understand it's supernatural? Right? Okay? I would love to You said it perfectly. I just want to give one more point to what sal said and also to the whole concept of causality Ashton. So we've I just drew on a paper here, we viewed time as you know linear. So if we wake up, we have breakfast, you know, we go to work. Now what if we took those same processes but in a circular sense you you went to work before you had breakfast. You see what I'm saying? And then so it makes Yeah. Did you see geometric unity by doctor Eric Weinstein? Yes, yes, yes, the idea of multiple temporal dimensions temporal dimensions? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. I think what wouldn't be a beautiful thing if all this could I don't want to give up on strings. I think somebody should should look into seeing how super forced can bring us out of this love? Would you say so the super force? Would you say? The super force is a semi classical unification of string. This is why? Yes, why would the plant force? Why would the plank force? Why would the planks force something that does not have h bar in it? Reside in the theory of off the Great Albert Einstein, we talked about the gravitation. The g some new equals right one divided by super force times some you new take it on the other side as a linear operator. Why is it saying why is it saying that it is possible? It is possible that the super force acting on the spatial, temporal, geometric local structure give rise to energy density. Hence matter could we three D print under certain conditions? Stop when I'm talking talking about materialization de materialization, Oh my goodness. Yeah maybe Eiggs Field but anyway, yeah, just through polarization operators and yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah. I want to say on the time thing as well. I just I put in the chat the egg, which is I think Andy Weir is the one who made this video, and that video I think describes time in the same way that Dave Rossi just did just now, brother Dave did, which is a beautiful concept that we only experience it as linear because that's how our minds process time moving forward. But there's no reason why someone looking from the outside from another dimension couldn't see it flowing into other directions or completely stopped entirely. So I think that if people U understand it, better watch that video I put in the chat. I think it really explains it pretty much. It speaks to the one electron universe theory and the whole notion of Fineman and Wheeler talking about how a positron is really an electron going But yeah, that's and then that brings me to the film Tenets by Christopher Nolan. How we may be moving forward, but we see the environment as backwards. But from the environment they're going forward, we're beat. Yeah. Yeah, So, guys, I think we're going to, you know, slow this one down here now and bring it to an end. But I want to give you, guys each an opportunity to plug anything you want to plug. We'll start with salvag or Pias for the pious here, anything that you want to plug. For the chat and for the people watching. I just want to say, please, guys, look very carefully what Ashton has to say about the incident. I think this may be the closest thing we've ever had to disclosure. We should definitely we should not go the way of naysayers. I will not name names, but you know who I'm talking about, a certain gang of hyenas. But let's just leave it to that. And and just just how should I say, there's far more important stuff to to to natural phenomena than the vision. Let's give it a chance. Let's let's look at it all of a sudden in a serious modality. Could this be it? Okay? So this number one don't forget Demestify CI podcast with Nasty and shallow great guys, doctors, Doctor Rossi, doctors both Nastia and don't forget Alien Scientists. Don't forget Jeremy Risk, don't forget Jay Anderson, Okay, j Anderson, Project Unity, don't forget Theory of Everything with Kurt Jay Mongol. He's doing some incredible Oh my goodness, I wish I was on it again too, but I think I think brother brother Jay Mungolo forgot about me or anyway, it is what it is. But but the whole idea is this, look into these things and don't dismiss them. Don't dismiss them, think of how how could this be possible? If it is possible, why why was it done? Because that speaks to the great heroism of this certain lieutenant commander that I will not name, which is another you know, right up there with Alexander Brussher Coldtheart, the whole deal put off that all these our heroes. Davis, Yes, I can't believe I'm saying it. Why not? And you know, come to think of it, even somebody in his own crazy wolfman way and Jack please come on, man, if anything, let's share the super force, but I'm sharing with doctor brandonburg Rand. Now you've got to talk to him if he shares, fine. But anyway, So in other words, there are ways to get past this. This this this individualistic many man doggie. There's no need for that. Together we shall overcome unification, not polarization. This is the only thing that will save our godly nation. Otherwise, gentlemen, it's over. It is over. The enemy has us in the crosshairs, and I am afraid that analyze a certain commodore Perry, who said those immortal words, we have met the enemy and here is ours. Yeah, so this time around, that's all. Thank you very much, Ashton for this tremendous opportunity. Thank you, well well, thank you those beautiful So one thing I can say to the audience, maybe on a little bit more of a technical side, is for those interested, look into the possibility that electricity and magnetism may be two different expressions of the same force. And if we sort of view that sort of in a philosophical transitioning into a physical sense, we may be able to see that some like the accessing the superforce. Oh my god, oh doctor ROSSI sorry to interrupt, you beautiful. I just got to say, again, senility, somebody should look and that the one thing in massive Maxhew's equations that already got me or you know, anyway up in the twist, it's that grab that beak zero, the whole idea that they're no such thing as magnetic manopause. But remember what the rock said, Yeah, yeah, yeah, what if that cred that be does not equal zero? What if it's a different zero. What if it's a different zero than the one we're used to being taught? After all, the great cant said, there are many sets of infinities. Why not certain zeros that are not exactly zero? Just leave it there? But yeah, very interesting. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm done. I would like to leave your audience with one thought, which is, and this may sound out there to some some people, but what if this goes all the way back to Pythagoreas's theorem in terms of understanding this. What if there was an understanding that Pythagorea has had that when we see, for I'm speaking to quadruple unification cell and that geometrically, what if, for example, we just basically looking at things in a different way. I'm not saying they are. But what if, for example, you know those vandergraft generators when you touch the capacitor and your hair goes up. What if what we call lightning strikes are large versions of when you pulse a vandergraft generator. As we see, what we if we start to think of things like this, perhaps as you know people see, uh, you get a voltmeter and you put it into the ground and there suddenly you get corrent and all that. What if what if we start to view things as so in our face that it may work, that maybe something does. And that's what I would like to leave everybody with. Awesome. Yeah, and again, Dave Rossi is the Generation Z podcast, So make sure you guys check that out. Make sure you follow them on Twitter as well. Salvat or Pius avoids social media, so you have to just touch directly. Yeah, Tim's great. Oh my god, he's had come on man, Lloyd Maurice, Oh my god. If I was in the same room with him, I think I'd lose it at all. He's start laughing and thank goodness, where did you get your degree from? That? Oh? One? If I could say one more thing for those interested, because I would love to do sometime a space either with Ashton or whoever. But at podcast Z no space is no capital Z spelled zed on Twitter for anyone that's interested. And also Phase Heelix dot com is the name of my company if anyone's interested consulting to anything in that regard with regards to the physics in certain areas. And that's about it. I want to thank you so much Ashton for doing this. Brother. Yeah. Now, I highly recommend both these guys. If you guys are trying to get any opinions any uh, you know, contract work, reach out to these guys. This is Ashton for ORBS here of the Heart podcast. I work for the government. Yeah yeah. The only way you reach out to me is through a certain gentleman and public afairs office at a certain office that works for the name. Thank you so yeah. Just to close it out then, yep, this is Ashen for ORBS and this is the Hard Truth podcast where we bring you the hard truth, the things that people have a hard time understanding to be real.
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