Hour 2 – Gerald McCoy, Seton’s Road Trip

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Our two.

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Speaker 2: On this Monday, Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick Show. We got Todd here. Dylan's in for Seaton. Seaton's on the road the Maco van drive into Vegas where we'll be next week Formula one. We haven't done anything like that before. We get to stay at the Fountain Blue. It'll be a great vacation for us to go out there, have a little bit of fun and we know that the Fountain BOOPLEEP people always take care of us. Will be on the road and we get to bond.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's this is team building as well when you go to Las Vegas and get up at four thirty in the morning. Yes, Dylan, will you be joining us at Pitbull at pit Bowl? Is that Friday night? It is Friday night? Probably not? Should we see if he can make it Thursday? If okay, here, I'll say this, if Pitbull joins us on our show, then I'll go to his show.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: Like we'll do a home and home like that. Okay, But yeah, I don't know if I could take all the excitement with a pit Bull show, but I'd be open to it. If I went to see Britney Spears, I'll go see Pitbull. I wish here's at the sphere. Imagine Pitbull at the sphere. No, if I do, I couldn't imagine that. That'd be incredible, all right? Age seven seven to three. DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. You can join us at Super Week in San Francisco. You gotta be careful on what you how you you know, phrase that label that it's it's super Weak and uh, because it's a sponsorship, so I can't call it what it really is. But you can join us at super Weak and you go to Danpatrick dot com. Doesn't cost anything to register, and maybe you can come out and watch us do our show at Super Week in February. Yes, Marvin, we're there for the Big Game. Yes, Okay, that big game, Yes, Pom.

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Speaker 4: But when there's not a sponsorship, we could say the phrase yes and not even say it until we're clearly away from them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we can't. Yeah, but it's a Super Week in San Francisco in February.

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Speaker 5: Come on out and join us. Yes, Dylan, what about just could you call it Bowl Week like you just? Can you use half of it and then you're good.

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Speaker 2: I think Super Week probably gets the job done.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about maybe should we have a T shirts that say the Big Game at Super Week.

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Speaker 2: Like sures generic with the NFL logo. Well, we did have a T shirt that we put up that just said football on it years ago. That's a good one. Actually, yeah, it is. Shuck around and find out. I think that T shirt's still available. Tyler Shuck played really well yesterday, a couple of touchdown passes for the new and improved Saints. All right, eight seven, seven to three. D P Show, as we always do every Monday, Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like? Dylan with you update the poll results from our one.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Dan, so our one poll was after this weekend. Who is more deserving of the NFL MVP? Drake may or Jonathan Taylor or other? But Jonathan Taylor is seventy three percent.

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Speaker 2: Of the vote. Yeah, he's not going to win it, he's not, But I hope that he puts up those numbers and the Colts continue to win. So it puts pressure on the voters that it shouldn't be We got an Offensive Player of the Year award. Therefore, if you're a wide receiver running back, that's your award, and meanwhile the quarterbacks get to win MVPs. I go back to when Babe Ruth was dominating. I don't think he could win the MVP and back to back years. So when you look, I don't know how many MVPs Babe Ruth had, but I don't think he was. You were allowed to have back to back MVPs. Now I could be totally making that up. Yeah, Paulie, you know Babe.

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Speaker 4: Ruth in his career twenty two years had won MVP at age twenty three. Now, I've done some research on this in the past and I have to double check, but I don't think there was an MVP award for most of his career. Okay, but again, in nineteen twenty nine, he hit forty nine home runs and finished tenth in the MVP.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it. Can we see if you were allowed to win back to back MVPs, because I don't think you were. Yes, Marvin, all right.

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Speaker 6: So Babe Route was only eligible to win the American League MVP once because the award rules at the time prohibit repeat.

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Speaker 2: Winners, imagine that maybe we should do that now, Yes, Paul, because he.

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Speaker 4: Had a season after winning the MVP where he hit three seventy eight, had hit forty six home runs, and he was not eligible for voting.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Unbelievable, all right, So the poll question is, is there an addendum to the pole question?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 5: For hour two, Dylan, Well, we've got a new on Actually Paul sent this last hour, but just straight up, who had the worst weekend?

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Speaker 2: Bills, Jaguars, Panthers, Steelers or other? I'd say the Bills. That's brutal, Yeah, because the Patriots are winning and it's not a foregone conclusion that the Bills are the best team in the division or they're going to have the best record. And the Jags, I mean, the Jags going to have a They have to have a hard discussion as they move forward, and they paid their quarterback. But you got to have those difficult conversations. You don't want to be middle of the road, and that's what they feel like. You know, you got a new coach, offensive minded coach, and I thought, okay, got some weapons here. You're going to have to have a difficult conversation there moving forward, because I'm going to give you three or four years, four years at the most. I should know who you are those four years. And this is where you extend somebody and you're like, you don't have to. Yeah, you could franchise them, make them play the final year. I know you want to show confidence in your franchise quarterback, but there's there's going to have to be some conversations. Carolina feels like there has to be conversations. I don't think Miami. I don't think they can really move on from Tua. You know San Francisco with Rock Purdy and Mac Jones. I mean, they got too much money in Rock Purty, but Mac Jones has proven that he can play as well in that system. Yeah, PAULI Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: Last year he was hurt, so you'd got to give him a hall pass, but he had eleven touchdowns and seven picks. This year in nine starts, he's a fifty nine percent passer, ten touchdowns, seven picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now the team isn't bad. They're just, like you said, middle of the road, not bad enough to blow up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, well, let's see Greg in Michigan Morning Greg what's on your mind?

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Speaker 7: Good morning, damn the man. Hey, I gotta tell you, I'm known as mister positive around the world. But I love that you love Elvis, and I love when you had Josh Elvis Allen on and you said, what is his most prized possession? And he pointed to a picture of Elvis on the wall? Do you remember that?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 7: Oh, geez, Dan, Dan okay. It was a fantastic interview, real quick, and I know that I'm getting slightly off topic. Do you ever broach politics? No, very good, sir, hey, real quick. And then I got to ask you my Buffalo Bills. What's wrong with them? I don't understand. I want them to win the Super Bowl? Obviously. With the Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Lions, it's one week. It's one week.

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Speaker 7: It's just why could he? I mean, how can he fall so flat?

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Speaker 2: You just beat Kansas City. The Dolphins do this every year. These guys get paid to play and these things happen. There's always these strange games. But thank you Greg for the phone call. Sorry, I don't remember all of my interviews. Yes, PAULI, by the way, a weird thing with the Dolphins. They have the Saints, the Jets and the Steelers and the Bengals over the next four weeks, and the Commanders a lot of winnable games. Did they miss their window for removing their head coach? I don't think he's there next year?

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Speaker 4: What if they somehow won, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think that they got You're gonna bring in a new GM, so that if Chris Greer was still there, then I would say, Okay, maybe they can keep their jobs. You fire the GM, now you're going to bring in a GM. And I don't know how many times a GM comes in and goes You know, I'm fine with that coach if if that coach got the GM fired, am I keeping that coach even though they might win some games? Mike and Wisconsin? I Mike, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: Hey? What up?

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Speaker 3: Fellas?

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Speaker 9: Bringing the negative vibes of seating out today on a Monday. I got a worse than op Worster, my worst Jackson Dart just a rookie already in concussion for all for time. Kind of a sad situation after a promise you can start my Worster ole miss. This was Beak eleven of the college football season, and they played the Citadel and they moved up in the rankings.

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Speaker 3: That is hot.

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Speaker 7: You, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you should be able to move up in the rankings if you play a team that is not worthy.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, Ole miss beat the Citadel. Yes, uh, Dylan, I believe the spread on that game was about fifty four points.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See, I can't go. Wow, you exceeded our expectations and how well you played against the Citadel. Let's see Jay and Delaware. Hi, j what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Hey, good morning, Dan. I hope you're in Georgia. Three day weekend. Ross did an amazing job for usual, and it'll be fun listening to Ross and the Ross sets in March two, twenty eight. My best and worst of the weekend, I'll start off my worst that Niners game. It just frustrated me and pissed me off the no end. Watching a seventy three year old quarterback run around, have forty five seconds to throw the ball and we didn't make a move for another pass rusher d Lineman. It just made me even more mad. But on the brighter side, good in that game. Kyle Shanahan came out for the first time this season and said there was no injuries after the game. All right, you guys have a great Monday.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jay, keep your head up there now. Matthew Stafford looks spright. It looks lively. Yeah, Marvin, I.

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Speaker 6: Would too if I Hukakua DeVante Adams on my team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, man, you forget DeVante Adams like, that's one of those Pooka might not be open, Davante. One of the two will be open every single play. You got good running backs, you've got a great head coach. Defense can be stout playmakers there, Yes, Marmon.

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Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford, he might be one of those guys where we forgot or the general public forgot that he played for the lines, just because he's going on this incredible run with the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Raymond in Scottsdale, Hey Raymond.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, sir, How are you good. I think this gambling issue is a lot more ominous than we're making it out to be. The three big sins in society are what drugs, gambling, and prostitution. Yes, sports complex is deeply involved in two of them. They only got one more to go and they are there. I don't really care that people gamble. I've seen it my whole life. I'm from the South Side of Chicago. I've seen my gamble is life away, so I like, you understand this, But it's one thing when you gamble, it's something else when the casino is also the owner of the league. They've got referees that work for the casino. And my father used to tell me when a card dealer wants to kill a game, he'll miss deal and crashes everybody, and that's how you get killed. There's going to be violence over this, and it's coming like a freight trade because I'm not worried about the point shaving because nobody else really cares about point shaving unless you are throwing the game. So there's a moral rationale that is made there. But when you have a coach. Fifteen years ago, I listened to Al Michael call a game and this is exactly what he said. They're on the thirty, there's a one minute to go, they've got a three point lead, and everybody wants to know are they going to kick the field goal and cover the spread. That's exactly what point shaving is. Only it wasn't an issue because the league isn't the casino. Now the league is the casino and now they know who everybody is, and now they know who the refs are, and now they're watching. And I am just telling you, the rhetoric, the philosophical rhetoric, is not going to matter. Someone's going to really get hurt and I'm afraid we're going to see it. And I don't know what the fix is going to be.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's more safeguards there, Thank you, Raymond. There's more safeguards in place because there has to be. Now there's more availability to be able to gamble, but they have to have more safeguards in here. And I think that's the difference because Vegas. You need Vegas to police all of this. That's what they do. It's just you get a player who thinks nobody's going to notice. And that's what's happened. Hey, we're going to do these illegal poker games. Who's going to know? Hey, I'm going to bring in somebody and you're going to flee them for a million dollars. I get a little kick back here. Who's going to know? It's when you get compromised, and then that's when you have to pay off a debt. That's what I'm worried about. And you know somebody said, well, if you have a quarterback, a big time quarterback, does that get everybody's attention. Yes, but they're making fifty million dollars. It's the guy that is not making that. That's the person I worry about. And I think as we move forward with this, it's going to be fluid because there'll be moments and a prop bet I can change the outcome with one pitch and I can still win the game. And this clause with the Guardians is one of the top relievers in the game. He and his buddies. Hey, I'm gonna throw this pitch, just this pitch, and it's not going to be above ninety four miles an hour, or it's going to be a ball, and then you can bet on that. You're just inviting this. That's all. That's why I'm not surprised, and I won't be surprised. I'm surprised when there isn't something kind of nefarious going on because there's so much money and the leagues are all in, like the moral compass is not pointing in the right direction, it's pointing towards the bank. We'll take a break back after this.

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Speaker 2: Gerald McCoy ANDFL Network analyst and six time pro bowler, third overall pick and twenty ten out of Oklahoma. You can see him all season long NFL Game Day Morning Sundays at nine am Eastern on NFL Network. Great to see you again. What advice would you give Jackson Dart with his style of play?

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Speaker 3: First off, good morning, Hey doing Daddy.

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Speaker 12: I always love coming back. First off, Good morning. Secondly, man b there's a fine line between trying to make a play and dangerous play. You are paid to deliver the ball with your arm. That's what you're paid to do. Everything outside of an extra Okay, he has to start to understand when is the time to run and how to run. Nobody's telling him not to run because we've seen running quarterbacks before. But there's a way to do it. There's a reason that some running quarterbacks don't get hurt, don't get hit.

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Speaker 3: The way it get hit.

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Speaker 12: He wants to get as much as he can out of this run instead of taking what they're giving you.

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Speaker 3: When you see.

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Speaker 12: Baker Mayfield doing the extra or whatever, trying to get the extra yard is necessary at the time. Other than that, you see Lamar Jackson, he make his move, He make you miss. He get out of bounds when he get down. You see Jalen Hurts, He get his yards whatever he get down. Michael Vick, he run un run, he get down. Cam Newton went through this, and Cam Newton is six six to sixty and he was taking these hits, and even Cam started to understand, for you get all that I'm getting down or I'm getting out of bounds. If he wants to have a long career, which he should have because he's extremely talented. He has to understand. Man, there's times when you have to go the extra a mound and then there's times where you need to just get what you can get in there.

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Speaker 3: Get down.

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Speaker 12: He's tried so bad to make a play because of what's around him and everything that he feels like the world is on his shoulders. That's going to be a detriment for him. And you don't want to see the app.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't run like Scataboo does. Who can take contact? But I would have RG three talk to Jackson Dark because RG three might be the fastest quarterback who's ever played that position. But you gotta be you gotta be smart when you scramble, when you decide you want to take on a hit, or you know you're not going to get out of bounds.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, my brother key to leave. We're on the sholf called the gridir. It's about underdog fantasy, and he says that's all time. If you want to do running back stuff, you have to deal with running back stuff. So if you want to go in there and duck your shoulder and try to run this dude over and all that, you gotta take what come with it, which is what comes with being a running back, getting hit all in your knees. You might take a couple extra hits, your shoulder's gonna be banged all up and all that. But that's what running backs do. Running Backs are built to deal with it. You are a quarterback, don't do running back stuff, but want to deal with it like a quarterback. If you're gonna do running back stuff, you gotta deal with running back stuff.

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Speaker 3: I love that he says that because it's true.

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Speaker 2: What does Jonathan Taylor have to do to win the MV pick?

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Speaker 3: Just be consistent the rest of the year.

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Speaker 12: You know what he's doing right now at this level, it's incredible. And if any year is the year to go win it, it's this year because there's not any quarterback that's like, Wow, I'm looking what this guy is doing. Like last year, what Lamar was doing was unprecedented. What Josh Allen was able to do to elevate his team, putting his team on his back to do the half the games he was having was freaking At that game he had alt in La versus Rams, freaking incredible. We're not seeing those types of games from quarterbacks. So if he's consistently like what he just did yesterday versus the Falcons. That's an MVP game. So when he wins the award, they're gonna look back to everybody has that game. That's his MVP game. Now he has to have these consistent moments throughout the year. See Saquan any other year would have been the MVP last year, but look at what he was up against. Jonathan Taylor's not up against that this year. So he just has to be consistent what he's doing. Give us one more of those like type games, and then consistently play the rest of the year and they keep winning.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll win MV Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he will because we've created the Offensive Player of the Year award and that's that's Hey, we're gonna give it to a running back or a wide receiver and I think.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well that's what that's Yeah, well that's that's not right because here's the evidence. And this is me, indie fans. I don't care how y'all feel. Y'all are fans of your team, y'all not paying attention. This is the most valuable player.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 12: Drake May is playing far beyond his years. He's playing great. He is Matthew Stafford is playing phenomenal, He's playing great. Okay, but you see yesterday and the last two weeks is why Jonathan Taylor should be at the top of the MVP race. When they when Pittsburgh took Jonathan Taylor out of the game, We've seen what happened to the team. It was not the same team when Jonathan Taylor did not take over the game we seen yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 12: Everybody likes to look at numbers. What did your eyes tell you when you're watching this game? Daniel Jones interception, three fumbles, all of them really should have been taken away. But that would have been another two to three turnovers from the quarterback. Okay, so what do we do? Stop depending on him? Give it to the running back, Give it to the running back. Give it to the running back. Give it to the running back. He's the reason that game was even one. Everybody wants to talk about that one throw he made. He's the quarterback. We need you to make a throw. Make a throw, please. Okay, but who made all the key players who put when they needed something to happen, they put it on Jonathan Taylor. That is a running back Why is he running us to a win versus a team where our quarterback should be doing it. Granted, I understand the Founders are a good pass defense. However that's not what we're seen yesday from Daniel Jones. What we've been seeing so the last two week should be evidence that that guy is the MVP.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst, you can see in NFL Game Day morning Sundays at nine am Eastern on NFL Network. Most disappointing team so far is who? Oh, most disappointing team?

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Speaker 12: Ye?

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's a two man race.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 12: Granted one of the player's main player got hurt, but the Baltimore Ravens, you expected them to be a lot better at this point, especially defensively, and the Buffalo Bills, right, but a lot of people had both of those teams in the super Bowl. Now a lot of people are wondering if he at a point now now it's a race of Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Gets in if they can win the division.

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Speaker 12: In Buffalo, with how they're looking up and down, how they looked against Kansas City, it was almost like that was the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Then you go down to Miami, it's like what the heck happened?

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Speaker 12: So I would say both of those two teams because of the expectations, Like the Packers, a lot of people can say, well, the Packers, they are losing these games. They shouldn't lose. But Packers were a good team, but they were in the mix. Not people had them in the super Bowl. You know, a lot of people had either Buffalo or Baltimore in the Super Bowl, and where they are right now, that's not what we're seeing.

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Speaker 3: So I would say those two.

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Speaker 2: Teams, yeah, I would probably. I think the Ravens are going to win their decision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they have it.

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Speaker 12: They definitely have a shot because if you look at the schedule with what they have left, the defense is playing much more improved and uh well, I mean clearly, yeah, lamar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you look at Pittsburgh. They gotta play Pittsburgh twice.

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Speaker 12: Pittsburg is so you don't know what you're gonna get from there, Like they play a game, right they did versus coach and then they'll do what they did last night, and it's like yeah, so yeah, Pittsburgh and p has the hardest schedule, so yeah, Baltimore is probably gonna win the division, so they'll get in. But even so, what we've seen from them all year, it's like you watching the Baltimore Ravens, then you watch the Buffalo bill and like, what the heck is going on?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 12: So I would say those two teams, if I'm looking at like actual disappointing teams for you expected more.

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Speaker 2: You ever land on a quarterback? Like try to land on a quarterback? Like, no, it just happens. You play the game is put.

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Speaker 12: This is what I say to anybody, and this is this is what bothers me about these rules is the people who are making the rules have been on the field, on the grass when the game is being played, not just in the game, but practice, uh, workouts combine are you've seen how fast these athletes move. You've seen how fast this game is. Defensive linemen are taught you have two point three seconds to get to the quarterback. That's what we're taught. That's the clock in our head. So imagine how fast you have to be moving to get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: There fast.

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Speaker 12: It's not like you getting off the ball, you just running the straight line and going to hitting them.

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Speaker 3: In two seconds.

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Speaker 12: You got to get past another professional athlete who might be bigger, stronger than you and has help. So once I get there, why do you think that we glorify a person who can get to the quarterback and get them on the ground the ball in his hand. When we do that, it's glorified by everybody. It's called a sack. When you get ten of those, you're put in a different level. There are seventeen games now. The average game you're playing offensive snap sixty snaps.

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Speaker 3: Okay, defensively you might get thirty five to forty.

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Speaker 12: So if you accu all of that and you can get to the quarterback ten times, you're put into the elite category.

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Speaker 3: That's how hard it is to do it.

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Speaker 12: So when you're doing that, you're not thinking about, oh, let me fall on the side.

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Speaker 3: Of him when I get to him. You're thinking get.

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Speaker 12: Him on the ground by any means necessary. So this oh you can't fall. And I heard Michael Straighthead say something that I love that. He said, they act like quarterbacks are not football players too. We're all football players. Those are football players. And it's just like you get push this agenda of oh, the game is fair and it's all about protection and all of we just trying to No, no, no, no, no, it's about keeping those guys healthy so we can see points, so we can make money. Because if we're talking about protection, why isn't it that.

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Speaker 3: A corner.

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Speaker 12: Offensive line who on average is six two six three and up three hundred and twenty pounds up. There used to be where a corner who was probably five nine to six feet one eighty to two hundred pounds could cut an office aligneman who was pulling. Well, now you can't do that anymore, and we're talking about fair or safe.

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Speaker 3: Nah, man, come on, stop that.

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Speaker 2: I like, I like y'all fired up, yeah, because it don't that's just they man.

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Speaker 12: The game is too fast for this for y'all to still be like, come on, man, thats just that's bad.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer right now.

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Speaker 12: Heck yeah, yeah, forget Matthew Stafford is gonna be one of the people that forget the All Pros, forget the Pro Bowls and all that.

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Speaker 3: What did your eyes tell you? And what do his numbers say?

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Speaker 12: Matthew Stafford was a victim of arguably the greatest era of a stream of quarterbacks that came through Matthew Stafford was drafted in two thousand and nine. He just ran into a string of quarterbacks, the Drew Brees, the Tom Brady's, the Aaron Rodgers and right. A couple of years later, Cam Newton showed up, Matt Ryan was around, Philip Rivers was around, all that Eli Manning was there. All of these people kept showing up, kept showing Andrew. Look all these people kept showing up. And Matthew Stafford is consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent, And now look at him. He might be playing the best football of his career. He's already won.

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Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.

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Speaker 12: Okay, he left Detroit, came to Rams, won the Super Bowl. Now he's just sacking it up at this point. Yes, Matthew Stafford is the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I think sacks are overrated. Okay, I think pressures and hurries are more important. You can have a sack in a game and we might say, oh man, you had a good game. We don't watch the tape, yep, but but I see pressures and hurries and you might effect fifteen plays posed to maybe one with that shack. I think we focus too much on the sacks. And not enough on the hurries, the pressures that defensive lineman have.

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Speaker 3: You know, we call that.

00:30:13
Speaker 12: It's a word for it. Oh, it's called smart. We call that being smart. You actually watch the game. A lot of people look at the number. Okay, look at the number, all right, even when I played, I'm not gonna give you twelve to fifteen sacks. But go watch the game. I'm in the backfield most plays, disrupting something. I'm on the quarterback. He can't just sit back there and hold the ball. I'm moving them off the off the spot, all of that. That's what Micah does. Michael, So everybody's looking at the I'll tell you even better with Max Crosby. If you go look at Max Crosby's SATs right now, go look at Max Crosby's stats, and they're gonna look at other defensive ends stats. You're gonna say, oh, he's playing better than Max. Go watch the tape. Max is on the running back, the quarterback, he's in the backfield. He disrupting, He's doing all of that. That's what makes Max one of the best in all of football is because he's always disrupting something. It ain't always who gets him on the ground. Because in basketball, there's a stack called an assists. So if I have the ball, because sometimes I feel like I gotta break this down like I'm talking to five year olds. If I have the ball and I give it to my teammate and he puts it in the basket, that's called an assists.

00:31:37
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:31:38
Speaker 12: They even have hockey assists where I passed to him, he passed to him and then it goes in. Okay, they have those as well. So if I beat my man and I make the quarterback, oh oh oh, he see me. He all over the place, and he running to my teammate, the teammate gets the stack, who calls the play?

00:31:55
Speaker 3: See.

00:31:55
Speaker 12: I even teach my son that, I say, son, stop trying to be so you sought to be making the play.

00:32:01
Speaker 3: Go disrupt stuff. You might not always make the play. So then you know what.

00:32:06
Speaker 12: You've been on the airways a long time. You know why because you are s M A R T. You are smart. You know what it's Monday, So I'm gonna use it even bigger word. You are intelligent, my brother. You are Thank you for watching the tape.

00:32:21
Speaker 2: That's how you get invited back right there. That's that's smart on your part. That's well, that's why I always talk about Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is like up there with Reggie White, in my opinion, like what he did when I When I get pressure up the middle, Now the quarterback has to go right or left, just like you did. I'm gonna. I think those guys are more valuable because they disrupt. They get the quarterback off his spot. If you're a great you know, edge rusher on the right, I just go the other way up the middle. You know, now I've gotten you off your spot and I want Aaron was always great.

00:33:00
Speaker 3: You don't know example of that. So we always try and get pressure up the middle.

00:33:03
Speaker 12: Tom Brady he hated any quarterback hates pressure in their face because that's their window. A great example of why you need a guy in the middle is yesterday when the Falcons were playing the Coats. The edge guys were getting pressure, but Daniel Jones wasn't getting sacked because the d tackles weren't getting pressured. They were sitting at the line of scrimmage. So it doesn't matter if these guys are right here. The quarterback is talked to, whether he is a launch point at seven yards. When I say launch point, that's where his footsteps and he moves back up into the pocket. That's his launch point. So when we used to rush, we used to when people be thinking dhas the linemen were just out there going. Well, some of us are, but I wasn't. So you got to know the launch point. Some people's lunch point is at nine yards, some people's launch points at ten. You got to know the launch point because you got to know when the counterback. So if the edge just come off the edge and they're just running around, which you talk never to run around the quarterback, he's just going to step up into the The old line has talked to build a pocket for him. If there's no pressure up the middle, then he could step up in the pocket and make it throat. So that's why you need pressure up the middle. That's why you gotta have a guy in the middle of your defense. That's why when Warren sat was doing what he was doing at the undertackle, it changed everything. Tony Dungey said, I need somebody in the middle of my defense that can make everything go, and that's what Sap was, and then everybody's just you know, copycatted.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: It great to talk to you. Thanks you always. Huh, Yes, sir, I appreciate you. That so Gerald McCoy, NFL network analyst. Very smart guy by the way, six time pro bowler. We'll take a break. We will give you our best and worst to the weekend right after this.

00:34:41
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00:34:53
Speaker 2: Oh, look, who's joining us. Seaton's on the road. Let's okay, let's guess where he left yes esterday afternoon, Todd, where do you think Seaton is?

00:35:05
Speaker 6: He's somewhere west of Pittsburgh.

00:35:06
Speaker 2: West of Pittsburgh.

00:35:08
Speaker 6: Okay, Marvin, he's in Maryland, Dylan, Virginia.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: On the way to Indy.

00:35:18
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Columbus, Ohio.

00:35:20
Speaker 2: I'm going West Virginia. Well, I'll give you a clue.

00:35:26
Speaker 8: Some people call this the birthplace of the dual threat quarterback, the guy named Major Harris.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: Maybe you've heard of West Virginia.

00:35:34
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is a clue. Oh okay, alright, hey, yeah, for the first time in almost thirty years, believe it or not, I'm back in Morgantown, West Virginia, and it's awesome, it's beautiful, gorgeous.

00:35:47
Speaker 2: Did you let officials know you were coming back?

00:35:50
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't.

00:35:52
Speaker 8: I think that may have been a wise move. I didn't notice that the dorm that I lived in, Arnold Hall is no longer a dorm, so they might be erasing any.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: On this campus. Okay, so West Virginia. And then you got to get to Indianapolis by tomorrow morning.

00:36:08
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll get to Indianapolis tonight. Uh, and then by h at eight o'clock, I'll be at a makeo there. You go to Danpatrick dot com for the uh the address, although the addresses are there, and then uh, yeah, tomorrow I'll get to Indianapolis tonight. I'll be in Saint Louis tomorrow night and yeah, we'll keep it rolling.

00:36:26
Speaker 2: And then Denver and then Las Vegas.

00:36:28
Speaker 3: Yep.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: Uh. Do you want to give us your best and worst of the weekend?

00:36:33
Speaker 3: Dude? Best of the weekend? Are the Patriots for real?

00:36:35
Speaker 11: Or what?

00:36:36
Speaker 8: Let's go that's a real win, that's a real win.

00:36:39
Speaker 2: Uh.

00:36:41
Speaker 3: Traveyt.

00:36:41
Speaker 8: Henderson is a thing. I think he's he's a real dealer. Worst of the weekend. Uh, well, I'll address that perhaps when I see you in person. The Makeovan is fine, it's fine. We just it's a good the irony of me driving a Makeo van right now. Maybe we'll put them to the test and see how good they are at their job.

00:37:03
Speaker 2: What did you hit?

00:37:05
Speaker 3: Well, it is not so must hit.

00:37:07
Speaker 2: It's more more of a screat situation.

00:37:10
Speaker 3: But I hear they're very good at buffing those right out.

00:37:13
Speaker 2: I won't be able to notice. We'll be all right, okay, all right, just to scratch that's it, yeah, ash wound. All right, we'll we'll talk to you tomorrow.

00:37:23
Speaker 3: All right.

00:37:24
Speaker 2: God speed, that's uh, but not too fast in the fast lane, right, tod, Yes, not too fast. You can't say when the police goes, hey, do you know how fast you were going? And if you say God's speed, you should be able to get off with that, right.

00:37:39
Speaker 5: I don't know.

00:37:39
Speaker 6: I don't think i'd appreciate that answer.

00:37:41
Speaker 2: How about we give our best and worst of the weekend?

00:37:44
Speaker 14: Ton best of the weekend. I've made them the worst of the weekend a number of times in the past. I'm going to give it to Wisconsin. They snap a six game losing streak, get the victory in Madison over number twenty three Washington thirteen ten. Let's go Badgers. Let's give them a little love.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: Finally, I think they got a vote of confidence. Luke Fickle did, and they'll be there. He's coming back next year.

00:38:02
Speaker 14: Jill and Worst of the weekend on what I'd like to call almost Sadly, I'm giving it to Penn State, Iowa and Auburn for almost but not quite being able to close things out against Indiana, Oregon and Vandy respectively.

00:38:12
Speaker 5: Dylan, all right, Dann, My best is my Hawaii Rainbow Warriors dominates San Diego State thirty eight to six in the late slot, seven and three in the season and most importantly seven too and one against the spread this year. And my worst, Dan, my Phoenix Rising lose one nothing to FC Tulsa in the USL Western Conference semifinals.

00:38:32
Speaker 2: Oh, you sit in Seaton's chair and all of a sudden, you're talking soccer, big fan, and it's one nil, not one nothing, one All right? I'm learning, Yeah, Marvin.

00:38:42
Speaker 6: Best of the weekend. The best player in college football Jerry Meyers Smith from Ohio State. Ten receptions, one hundred and thirty seven yards touchdown. He's the best. He's probably not gonna win the Heisman, but he's the best player in the game.

00:38:52
Speaker 9: Uh.

00:38:53
Speaker 6: Worst of the weekend my Virginia Cavaliers. They were going, they.

00:38:58
Speaker 2: Were going all the way, they were going play and.

00:39:00
Speaker 6: They lost the Wake Force and now they're probably not going to make the college football playoffs as a one seed.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: Paul.

00:39:07
Speaker 4: I also have Wisconsin in that slop thirteen to ten over Washington. The leading passer for Wisconsin, punter Sean West, won for one twenty four yards. They threw for forty eight yards.

00:39:17
Speaker 3: But it's a win.

00:39:18
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with USC as my other best of the weekend. Running Back King Miller and wide receiver Makai Lemon really tore up Northwestern and us season. This weird position right now. They didn't have some big games early, not a great out of conference schedule, but they finished with Iowa, Oregon UCLA and they're seven and two. They CUSP CUSP team.

00:39:39
Speaker 2: It still feels like there's some unrest there with Lincoln Riley. It just feels awkward, And I had this feeling with Brian Kelly at LSU. It just doesn't feel secure. Yeah, Paul, USC.

00:39:54
Speaker 4: Has to schedule tougher out of conference games and get credit for them even playing in them, because they're record right now is anchored down by the lack of big games early.

00:40:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they want to get Notre Dame off the schedule. We'll talk some college football with Rick Neuheisel, and I'll tell him what I was told over the weekend. Get ready for a college coaching carousel offseason like we've never seen before. We've already had that during the season, but people maybe leaving good jobs, slash great jobs to take another job, or two or three of those type situations. Two hours in the books already this Monday. One more to go. More phone calls as well, eight seven to seven to three DP show Todd's here, Dylan's in for seedon Marv Paul Years truly in the back room guys as well. Final hour after this