OUTDOORSMAN IN TENNESSEE SHARES HIS BIGFOOT EXPERIENCE! | THEY WERE IN THE CAVES!

<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, and welcome to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode,
<v Speaker 1>I am interviewing Dale from Tennessee. He has had a
<v Speaker 1>few encounter sightings and has come across a lot of
<v Speaker 1>neat fines. Since his encounters, Dale has been all up
<v Speaker 1>and down the rivers and forest of Tennessee in search
<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot activity. Despite the ridicule from his friend's family
<v Speaker 1>and neighbors, Dale continues to push forward and look for
<v Speaker 1>answers as he knows without a doubt these creatures exist.
<v Speaker 1>If you have had a bigfoot encounter and once reported
<v Speaker 1>on the show, then please email me at Sasquatch Theory
<v Speaker 1>at outlook dot com. For those who enjoyed watching the
<v Speaker 1>Killing Field series, I did go back out to the
<v Speaker 1>farm and talk to David a little bit about the activity.
<v Speaker 1>I camped there with a friend and followed up on
<v Speaker 1>a BFROL report that was submitted a few years back
<v Speaker 1>close to David's farm property. I will be releasing a
<v Speaker 1>short video on what we recently did, but I do
<v Speaker 1>plan on returning to the property to conduct another investigation.
<v Speaker 1>David also invited me to a conservation lake and I
<v Speaker 1>think that will be a lot of fun to just
<v Speaker 1>sit back and enjoy God's land. Plus, I think we
<v Speaker 1>have a good chance of seeing some good structures all
<v Speaker 1>along this lake. There has been a large number of
<v Speaker 1>reports of witnesses claiming to see UFOs coming in and
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<v Speaker 1>All right, everyone, let's dive into this next Bigfoot encounter
<v Speaker 1>from the state of Tennessee. Hey, Dale, welcome to Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>Theory and I appreciate you being on the show.
<v Speaker 2>Hy Miguel, thank you for having me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's no problem.
<v Speaker 2>Dale.
<v Speaker 1>Could you tell me a little bit about yourself and
<v Speaker 1>your bigfoot encounters from the state of Tennessee.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I sure can. I'm fifty nine years old. I'm
<v Speaker 2>a retired pot feeder, pot welder. I've worked at TVA,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the food processing plants around here over
<v Speaker 2>the years, spent a lot of time around the nuclear plants,
<v Speaker 2>and just basically a blue collar guy. That's a hard
<v Speaker 2>working guy. My kids are grown, and so I'm pretty
<v Speaker 2>much on my own right now, hunting, fishing and enjoying life.
<v Speaker 2>What I believe was a big foot or sasquatch encounters
<v Speaker 2>when they first started, was on up on Bakewell Mountain,
<v Speaker 2>about an hour or so, an hour and a half
<v Speaker 2>from where I live right now, down Highway twenty seven
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatchee County, Tennessee. It's a very remote county. There's no
<v Speaker 2>business or industry there. It's a beautiful place, and up
<v Speaker 2>on the mountains we've got lawrel thickets and mountain streams
<v Speaker 2>and springs and creeks as places just gorgeous. When I
<v Speaker 2>was about fourteen fifteen years old, my family started deer
<v Speaker 2>hunt and we were all kind of green. We were
<v Speaker 2>all kind of new to it, and they were teaching
<v Speaker 2>me how to hunt, how to look for sign, how
<v Speaker 2>to look for deer, and we would go up there camping,
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes we'd go for a week at a time.
<v Speaker 2>And the very first night we camped there, we started
<v Speaker 2>hearing these loud screams above our camp. Sometimes it'd be
<v Speaker 2>all around us, but this one on every night, and
<v Speaker 2>my uncles and my dad and still to this day,
<v Speaker 2>passed that office mountain lions. You know, we're not supposed
<v Speaker 2>to have them here, but that's what they said they
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was because it sounded like they
<v Speaker 2>were too loud to be mountain lions, and it was
<v Speaker 2>it was too many of them. There would be four
<v Speaker 2>or five different vocals making these noises at one time,
<v Speaker 2>and that were pretty scary. They were pretty shocking. They
<v Speaker 2>had us had we had our guns out. I had
<v Speaker 2>this four forty four male and that was my first
<v Speaker 2>big bull rifle, and we're sitting there loading our guns
<v Speaker 2>and just making sure because we had no clue. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we had I'd been hunting since I was a kid,
<v Speaker 2>bird hunting, squirrel hunting, but we were all just getting
<v Speaker 2>into deer hunting. But this went on for a long
<v Speaker 2>long time up in probably at least ten fifteen years,
<v Speaker 2>and at night it would happen almost every single night.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was bigfoot, Sasquatch, I had
<v Speaker 2>no clue. I just don't think it was mountain lions.
<v Speaker 2>And that's my first intuition, or first first thing that's
<v Speaker 2>ever happened to me that was strange in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>So time goes on, and as far as a squats,
<v Speaker 2>there was nothing else happened, nothing that gave me any clue.
<v Speaker 2>I always believed something could exist just by looking at
<v Speaker 2>the Patty film. That's an old brainer. Looking at that thing,
<v Speaker 2>especially the newer digital image of the Patterson Gimlin footage
<v Speaker 2>there it's I always think, yeah, it's very possible. But
<v Speaker 2>I never dreamed that something like this would be right
<v Speaker 2>here in my backyard. Never never dreamed of it till
<v Speaker 2>one day it happened. The first thing that happened to
<v Speaker 2>me that when Bigfoot became real for me, that told me, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they are here, not far from where I live. The
<v Speaker 2>very first thing. It was in twenty twelve, the first
<v Speaker 2>week of January. I'll never forget it because that's that's
<v Speaker 2>when that's when I was shocked. I go up to
<v Speaker 2>South Cherokee National Force and this is in Like I said,
<v Speaker 2>it's about the first week of January, the last weekend
<v Speaker 2>of deer season, and I was hunting wild hogs and deer,
<v Speaker 2>no bear allied at that time. It was already over with.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, I sure would like to get a hog,
<v Speaker 2>because I've never I've never got a hog. I've never
<v Speaker 2>harvested a wild hole and still have it. So I
<v Speaker 2>go up there and by halfway up there, I'm in
<v Speaker 2>this little four wheel drive jeep Cherokee, and I had
<v Speaker 2>to put it in full wheel drive because it started
<v Speaker 2>snowing and slip. And on my way up there, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go all the way back into the
<v Speaker 2>Conasauga River area. That's where I intended on going. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go that far back. And something happened
<v Speaker 2>and me be out there and by myself. I just
<v Speaker 2>my gut told me to stop, find a place and
<v Speaker 2>go in blind. So I did that. I finally found
<v Speaker 2>a place that was level to park off the side
<v Speaker 2>of the road. And those mountains in South Cherokee National
<v Speaker 2>Forest are straight up and straight straight down. There's not
<v Speaker 2>many places to park, but there are a few designated
<v Speaker 2>spots that they've got took bulldozers and made some parking areas.
<v Speaker 2>So I parked my jeep on the side of the road,
<v Speaker 2>get it out of the way, and there's probably a
<v Speaker 2>couple of inches of snow, and I sleep. And it
<v Speaker 2>was snow and sleep at this time, and there was
<v Speaker 2>there was ice there. It was a it was just
<v Speaker 2>a nasty morning. I thought, yeah, I'm not going to
<v Speaker 2>go far off into the woods. I'm gonna get off
<v Speaker 2>the road not far from my vehicle and find an
<v Speaker 2>area that looks good. And like I said, I was
<v Speaker 2>going in totally blind. So I get get to this
<v Speaker 2>little area and I look down and I see a
<v Speaker 2>few fresh little hog waters, you know, a few places
<v Speaker 2>where looked like hogs had been rutting around down in
<v Speaker 2>this little creek bed. And I didn't go down there.
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at it from the side of this ridge,
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, going in blind and luck of
<v Speaker 2>the draw really doesn't matter where I get. So so
<v Speaker 2>I get settled down and I get leaned up against
<v Speaker 2>this big old tree, and I'm looking over this little
<v Speaker 2>ravine and it's a beautiful morning, beautiful quiet morning. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>the son started coming up I got I got there late,
<v Speaker 2>maybe nine o'clock. I'm thirty. I can't remember the exact time.
<v Speaker 2>That's a ballpark time. So I'm sitting here against against
<v Speaker 2>this oak tree, and uh, you can hear for a
<v Speaker 2>long way and it stops snowing and sleeping, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>the woods at that time are real quiet. You can
<v Speaker 2>you can hear very good. And I hear something up
<v Speaker 2>next to my vehicle, right around my vehicle, and and
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm maybe seventy five yards away from my vehicle.
<v Speaker 2>Even if that I can stand up, walk a few
<v Speaker 2>yards and and see my vehicle. It's just right out
<v Speaker 2>of side. So I'm leaned up against this tree, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing these noises. I'm thinking, well, is that you
<v Speaker 2>know I'm right off the bat I'm thinking that it's
<v Speaker 2>some kind of an animal. I've never seen any bear
<v Speaker 2>up there. I know they're there, but i've never seen
<v Speaker 2>any in that area. I have up but not in
<v Speaker 2>that particular area. I'm thinking maybe it's a wildhall or
<v Speaker 2>or a dog or but something's down there around my vehicle.
<v Speaker 2>You know. That's what my gut was telling me, and
<v Speaker 2>that's what I was hearing. So I'm sitting there, sitting
<v Speaker 2>there and watching and waiting patiently, and you get that
<v Speaker 2>gut feeling where you know, I'm just not going to
<v Speaker 2>see nothing today. It just ain't happening, Tod. I sit
<v Speaker 2>there for until I got so bored I couldn't stand it.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there for a good hour or maybe then,
<v Speaker 2>no more than a couple hours. The whole time at
<v Speaker 2>that tree, I'm thinking, you know, what's snow and it's nasty.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get up, go back to my vehicle and
<v Speaker 2>see what this was. So I walk up to my vehicle,
<v Speaker 2>I look around it. I don't I don't see anything
<v Speaker 2>until I walk in front of my vehicle and then
<v Speaker 2>I see these bear footprints. I'm like, the first thing
<v Speaker 2>I thought was a bear. And I get to looking
<v Speaker 2>at it real close. Now, man, this has got toes this,
<v Speaker 2>This track has toes in it. And I get to
<v Speaker 2>looking around and you could see whatever this thing was
<v Speaker 2>walking around in front of my vehicle. And then the
<v Speaker 2>tracks led off to this little looked like a little
<v Speaker 2>tiny logging road that went across little two little haulers there,
<v Speaker 2>haulers dropped off on each side, and a little small
<v Speaker 2>road where the road goes back there and it stops,
<v Speaker 2>and then it goes straight up and straight on the
<v Speaker 2>other side is the Consauga River. You can you can
<v Speaker 2>hear the river a little bit from where I was
<v Speaker 2>at at this point. So I start looking at these
<v Speaker 2>tracks and I'm thinking, you know, I know it's not
<v Speaker 2>a bear track. They double step, but not every step.
<v Speaker 2>And plus this didn't have claws on. When the bear
<v Speaker 2>double steps, they usually don't leave up. There'll be claws
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the track, not toads. So I
<v Speaker 2>kept following these tracks down through there, and maybe sixty
<v Speaker 2>seventy eighty yards. I follow them till the ridge started
<v Speaker 2>going straight up. And I get back there and I'm
<v Speaker 2>looking at these tracks and I'm dumbfounded. I'm shocked. I'm
<v Speaker 2>thinking this can't be what I think it is. And
<v Speaker 2>I get back there and I'm thinking, well, I can
<v Speaker 2>follow these tracks straight up this ridge or I can
<v Speaker 2>turn around and leave. And I sat there and studied
<v Speaker 2>those tracks and studied the tracks, and I didn't go
<v Speaker 2>up the ridge. Something my gut said, don't do that.
<v Speaker 2>So I went back to my vehicle, got my carn,
<v Speaker 2>left and came home. Went on told my wife about it.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think about taking my phone and taking
<v Speaker 2>a picture. And back then all I had was one
<v Speaker 2>of the flip pone flip phones, and that was the
<v Speaker 2>father thing for my mind. You know, I was just
<v Speaker 2>in shock, and ah, I'm thinking, wow, could it be?
<v Speaker 2>Is it possible? I know my eyes didn't deceive me.
<v Speaker 2>So I guess that's when sasquatch became real for me,
<v Speaker 2>and me realized they're here in the Appalachian Mountains. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was still hard for me to believe.
<v Speaker 2>So I put that in the back of my mind,
<v Speaker 2>you know, just went on by my life. But I
<v Speaker 2>never forgot about it. I'll never forget that. I remember
<v Speaker 2>it like it was yesterday. You know. I go up
<v Speaker 2>there all the time, camping, hiking, and I stop it
<v Speaker 2>that little spot all the time and look around just
<v Speaker 2>to refresh my memory. Get out, walk around, look see
<v Speaker 2>if I see anything strange. But but I'll never forget that.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's uh, I was in awe over that,
<v Speaker 2>and I'll never forget it. That's I guess that's when
<v Speaker 2>I realized they do live here. They're they're not a
<v Speaker 2>They're not a myth, They're not a fairy tale they're here.
<v Speaker 2>Uh So time goes on and I'm put it out
<v Speaker 2>of the back of my mind, and the next time
<v Speaker 2>something happened was in twenty seventeen. It was in late
<v Speaker 2>November December. My cousin bought this is Zoo Zoo Trooper,
<v Speaker 2>and I do mechanic work on the shop, and this
<v Speaker 2>thing needed no tie rods, ball joint shocks. We we
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of work on this thing, and we
<v Speaker 2>kept talking about, well, when we get this thing fixed,
<v Speaker 2>we're going full wheeling. We're going full wheeling. And Hey
<v Speaker 2>asked me if I knew where any good places was
<v Speaker 2>to go full wheeling. Not on you know, because most
<v Speaker 2>of the management areas around here you can't ride four
<v Speaker 2>wheaters on them. You can't get off the road. And
<v Speaker 2>it's just most of them are gravel roads. And I'm thinking, well,
<v Speaker 2>I do no one place that we can go and
<v Speaker 2>get off the road and do some mudd and and
<v Speaker 2>have some fun and not worry about breaking any laws.
<v Speaker 2>So we work on this thing a couple of weeks
<v Speaker 2>and get it running real good, or it's good and
<v Speaker 2>good and safe, and we take a little road trip
<v Speaker 2>up to Monteagle Mountain, This is in Franklin State Forests
<v Speaker 2>in Tennessee. Part of it is in Marion County and
<v Speaker 2>part of it's in Franklin County. And we were riding around,
<v Speaker 2>I mean for a couple of weeks, and uh, we
<v Speaker 2>noticed we started seeing these tree structures in different places
<v Speaker 2>and just massive. Some of these tree structure tree structures
<v Speaker 2>were massive. And the next time is when I had
<v Speaker 2>my very first visual siding. I didn't look at this
<v Speaker 2>thing real long, but I looked at it long enough
<v Speaker 2>to be able to tell what it was. My cousin
<v Speaker 2>got a glimpse of this thing. He didn't see it
<v Speaker 2>good as I did. We were on this little back
<v Speaker 2>road and uh, we're in full we'll drive, and he
<v Speaker 2>goes the opposite way across the ruts. You know, when
<v Speaker 2>you're full wheeling, you stay in the ruts, on top
<v Speaker 2>of them or down in them. Well, he went to
<v Speaker 2>the opposite way and we got stuck and we weren't
<v Speaker 2>going anywhere. And this maybe was about a thirty minutes
<v Speaker 2>before dark. The sun had already started going down, so
<v Speaker 2>we didn't get in panic mode. We're just sitting there
<v Speaker 2>and he says, what are we gonna do now? We're
<v Speaker 2>gonna walk out of here. I said, no, we're not
<v Speaker 2>walking out of here. We don't have any guns or anything.
<v Speaker 2>He said, what are we gonna do? I said, We're
<v Speaker 2>gonna try to get us out of here. If we can't,
<v Speaker 2>then we'll walk out. I'm not spending the night here
<v Speaker 2>in this vehicle. So we opened the doors to the
<v Speaker 2>vehicles and as soon as we opened the door put
<v Speaker 2>our feet on the ground, we hear this loud al hoot.
<v Speaker 2>I mean this owl hoot was close, I mean real close,
<v Speaker 2>and it was on the ground not far from us.
<v Speaker 2>And he looked over at me and he said, do
<v Speaker 2>you hear that? I said, yeah, I hear it. And
<v Speaker 2>it did it a few times. But you could tell
<v Speaker 2>this thing, whatever it was, wasn't up in a tree.
<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh oh, and it sounded kind of
<v Speaker 2>like that. It didn't really sound like an owl, but
<v Speaker 2>it was close. And me, I'm blocking that out because
<v Speaker 2>we're stuck in the mud at that point in time,
<v Speaker 2>and all I got on my mind is to get
<v Speaker 2>out of there. Well, I come up with this idea.
<v Speaker 2>I took my shirt off. I had a pair of
<v Speaker 2>shorts on at that time. I took my shoes off,
<v Speaker 2>I jumped down in the mud. I made this little
<v Speaker 2>makeshift bridge to fill the gap so we can get out.
<v Speaker 2>And the whole time I'm in here in that little ditch,
<v Speaker 2>we're hearing this out hooo. And he says, you know
<v Speaker 2>what that is, don't you? He said, I've heard that
<v Speaker 2>up in ol Kobe before. Had We've had stuff come
<v Speaker 2>around our camp up there like and make those sounds.
<v Speaker 2>He says, I think it's a big foot. I said,
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. But right now I'm focusing on this.
<v Speaker 2>We got to get out of here or we're going
<v Speaker 2>to be spending the night here. So I guess it
<v Speaker 2>takes about maybe fifteen minutes or so. I mean, I'm
<v Speaker 2>in a tunnel vision. I'm hyper focused, trying to trying
<v Speaker 2>to get done what I was doing. And finally I
<v Speaker 2>get enough law to make this little makeshift bridge, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>we get unstuck. I'm still standing outside of the jeep.
<v Speaker 2>I'm standing there in the same spot I was when
<v Speaker 2>I got up out of that uh muddy ditch that
<v Speaker 2>he was stuck in. He backs up, spends his vs,
<v Speaker 2>spends his vehicle around, and I walked over there A
<v Speaker 2>little waist and uh, actually, I was going over there,
<v Speaker 2>take alick. I was about to bust, I was about
<v Speaker 2>to pop, and I noticed this little figure stuck its
<v Speaker 2>head out from behind this tree. It was, it was quick,
<v Speaker 2>stuck its head back in there. And I looked at
<v Speaker 2>this thing, and it was so light and quick. I
<v Speaker 2>was shocked because I knew what I was looking at.
<v Speaker 2>I walk over there to take a leake, and this
<v Speaker 2>thing is ducking and bobbing and weaving in and out
<v Speaker 2>behind that tree. I got a good glimpse of it,
<v Speaker 2>and we actually locked eyes for a seemed like for eternity,
<v Speaker 2>but I know it was only a couple of seconds
<v Speaker 2>because we locked eyes and this thing ducked in behind
<v Speaker 2>the tree again. I got a good visual of its face.
<v Speaker 2>Even though it was quick, it wasn't a real big sasquatch.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know. I guess you considered juvenile. It
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a real big one at all. But I got
<v Speaker 2>a good look at it, got a good look at
<v Speaker 2>his face. I had cold black eyes, cold black eyes.
<v Speaker 2>And at that time, when I'm standing there, we hear
<v Speaker 2>more whoops right above this one, three or four more
<v Speaker 2>coming from on that area. So at this point, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, man, okay, So I ran jump back in
<v Speaker 2>the vehicle and these things are still whooping as we're
<v Speaker 2>driving off, and he's in the car laughing, and I'm
<v Speaker 2>in shock. At this time, I'm thinking, this did not happen. No,
<v Speaker 2>this is something you say in a movie. This is
<v Speaker 2>not real. It just didn't happen. But we remember it
<v Speaker 2>very clear and talked about it all the way home.
<v Speaker 2>We still talk about it. And that's when I realized,
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're here in the Cumberland Mountains too. I
<v Speaker 2>live right here at the edge of the Cumbum Plateau,
<v Speaker 2>and that's where this happened. At it. It was right
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of cumber And Plateau. Franklin Force is real,
<v Speaker 2>real remote, and that place is just full of Sasquat's
<v Speaker 2>tree structures. They're everywhere. And after that we were like
<v Speaker 2>going down the rabbit hole, I mean, just riding around
<v Speaker 2>and taking pictures and documenting all these tree structures and
<v Speaker 2>telling everybody, you know, we had sasquatching counter. Of course,
<v Speaker 2>everybody's laughing at us. So I guess that's my first
<v Speaker 2>visual sighting I ever had. But I'm thinking in my mind,
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking man, this can't this can't be. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying them right here in the Appalation Mountains. Now
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing one the Appalachian Mountains where I had that.
<v Speaker 2>I saw them footprints maybe a couple hours from my
<v Speaker 2>house at the most. And Franklin State Force is not
<v Speaker 2>that far away, Miguel. It's only about an hour from here.
<v Speaker 2>Even if that, yeah, yeah, it's not for at all.
<v Speaker 1>Can you describe the sasquatch that you saw bobbing and
<v Speaker 1>weaving up and down? Yes, every detail that you could remember.
<v Speaker 2>Every detail I can remember. Even though the sun was
<v Speaker 2>going down, it wasn't quite dark yet. I could still
<v Speaker 2>see the shadow and the silhouette of it pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>The hair wasn't that long on this thing. It never
<v Speaker 2>did stand straight up. It stayed in a squatting position
<v Speaker 2>like it was a football linebacker. It never did move
<v Speaker 2>from that position. Even when it was bobbing and weaving
<v Speaker 2>behind that tree. It was so quick. It would like
<v Speaker 2>come out up sideways and just like moving quick, like
<v Speaker 2>he was doing some kind of a I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen thing move that fast. The hair wasn't
<v Speaker 2>that long, maybe two to three inches at the most.
<v Speaker 2>On the body. I don't remember having a lot of
<v Speaker 2>hair on its face around its eyes, especially, it didn't
<v Speaker 2>have no hair. His hair was a little shorter on
<v Speaker 2>its head. Its same light. But the eyes were jet black.
<v Speaker 2>I did I did see that part. It didn't have
<v Speaker 2>no white in its eyes.
<v Speaker 1>Did think I had a conical shaped head or around head?
<v Speaker 2>No, this thing had a round head, just like mine.
<v Speaker 2>It did not have no hump on its head, not
<v Speaker 2>that I could see. I don't remember having nothing on
<v Speaker 2>its head, but I do remember having a round head
<v Speaker 2>as a little bigger than mine.
<v Speaker 1>But what color fir do you think?
<v Speaker 2>Ahead? It was jet black, black as black could be
<v Speaker 2>jet black. And that's about all I remember of it.
<v Speaker 2>I really couldn't see the forehead. I really wasn't paying attention.
<v Speaker 2>I locked eyes with it, got a good look at
<v Speaker 2>the at the body. What I could say of it,
<v Speaker 2>because like I said, it did not stand straight up.
<v Speaker 2>But I seen enough to know that what I was
<v Speaker 2>looking at I wasn't. I knew what I was looking at. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>my heart's raising up right now just thinking about it.
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't that far away, maybe thirty yards at
<v Speaker 2>the most at the most, Even if that I think
<v Speaker 2>what we did the sun was going down and where
<v Speaker 2>we were at was it's so remote. Just a regular
<v Speaker 2>full wheel drive won't make it back in there. This thing,
<v Speaker 2>this is zuzuo. He had. This thing would climb a tree,
<v Speaker 2>you'd go anywhere. Those those those things are pretty bad
<v Speaker 2>when you know on full will drive. I think what
<v Speaker 2>happened we drove right into there where it was they
<v Speaker 2>were doing their thing, and uh, they were there before
<v Speaker 2>we were. That's what I'm thinking. We just happened to
<v Speaker 2>drive in there right when they were getting ready to
<v Speaker 2>do their thing. Now that I play all that back in.
<v Speaker 1>My mind, Yeah, that makes sense. And maybe the sound
<v Speaker 1>of the engine revving up disturbed the Sasquatch a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And that's getting stuck in that mud, because when
<v Speaker 2>we got stuck, he was had it punched to the floor,
<v Speaker 2>digging and seeing that much deeper and slinging mud everywhere.
<v Speaker 2>And I believe what we were seeing. We saw one
<v Speaker 2>that was real curious, very curious because it probably never
<v Speaker 2>seen nothing like that. But there wasn't the only one there.
<v Speaker 2>There were some other alhoots right there, you know, not
<v Speaker 2>far away from that one. I don't know if it
<v Speaker 2>was already sitting there when we got there or not.
<v Speaker 2>I just know when we opened up the doors to
<v Speaker 2>that vehicle and when our feet hit the ground, it's
<v Speaker 2>when it let out that first al hoop. And right
<v Speaker 2>then in my mind, I'm thinking, that's a al it's
<v Speaker 2>got to be an out. But after it kept doing it,
<v Speaker 2>it would do it. I guess about every few minutes
<v Speaker 2>that would it would let off an au hoot, and
<v Speaker 2>my gut knew what it was. But I was so
<v Speaker 2>hyper focused on getting out of there. It was either
<v Speaker 2>us get out of there, spend the night in that
<v Speaker 2>vehicle with whatever's out there, or walk out of there
<v Speaker 2>with no weapons. And I wasn't going to do the
<v Speaker 2>latter two. You know. My objective was to somehow get
<v Speaker 2>us out, even if I had to make a homewaight
<v Speaker 2>made winch with a strap. But yeah, that's my first
<v Speaker 2>visual sighting. And like I said, I knew they were
<v Speaker 2>in the Appalachian Mountains. I've heard stories about them. I
<v Speaker 2>saw those footprints up there, and that's when they told
<v Speaker 2>me they were here in Tennessee. And then I'm thinking
<v Speaker 2>about I'm hearing those screams when I was a kid
<v Speaker 2>growing up I've seen those footprints, and now I got
<v Speaker 2>a good visual this thing, even though my sighting didn't
<v Speaker 2>last that long, not long at all, but long enough
<v Speaker 2>for me to see what it was.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you continued having experiences after this encounter?
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yes, yes, I did. I've got a couple. One
<v Speaker 2>of them is pretty shocking to me. My next experience,
<v Speaker 2>it just blew my mind. They shut me down for
<v Speaker 2>a little while after this happened. This was maybe a
<v Speaker 2>month or two later. Twenty seventeen is when we were
<v Speaker 2>on Monteagle Mountain about in December, mid December, first of December, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>in January, I guess it'd be twenty eighteen. It was
<v Speaker 2>right there at the end of the same year. It's
<v Speaker 2>when I had my second visual sighting. I had gone
<v Speaker 2>down here on the Tennessee River to catch some fish
<v Speaker 2>to put in the freezer. I've got a fishing hole
<v Speaker 2>down here that naturally holds fish all year in the
<v Speaker 2>summer and wintertime, and I'm thinking, well, I'm come down
<v Speaker 2>here and catch some fish. I like to catch fish
<v Speaker 2>and eat them when they're fresh, but if I put
<v Speaker 2>them up for the winter, I always freeze them in water.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking in my mind, you I can go
<v Speaker 2>down here and catch some fish and have some fish
<v Speaker 2>for later when it's real cold nast outside, I can
<v Speaker 2>have some fish on a rainy day. It's always produces fish.
<v Speaker 2>I'll go down here fishing all the time. But when
<v Speaker 2>I had my next siding, it was a while before
<v Speaker 2>I went back down there. My next visual sighting, like
<v Speaker 2>I said, it was the end of December twenty seventeen,
<v Speaker 2>and it was just not long after my cousin and
<v Speaker 2>I had seen that one on mo Leagle Mountain. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm down there fishing one day and I start catching
<v Speaker 2>fish right off the bat catching bluegill, crappie, catfish, just
<v Speaker 2>one after another. This fish, this fishing holds full of
<v Speaker 2>fish at times when you catch it, when when the
<v Speaker 2>water's right, when they're not messing with the current too bad.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sitting here on this little point and I'm
<v Speaker 2>right on the river, and the way the river chokes
<v Speaker 2>down right there where I'm at, and the current gets
<v Speaker 2>real swift. But there's an area that makes like a
<v Speaker 2>little pond. It's a little curve in the bank. It
<v Speaker 2>comes around and the water just settles there. There's a
<v Speaker 2>lot of mussels, a lot of clams, a lot of
<v Speaker 2>bait fish, and it just naturally holds fish. And I
<v Speaker 2>go down there all the time, and I look at
<v Speaker 2>that area all the time to see if I can
<v Speaker 2>see that again. I'm looking at the mountain right now
<v Speaker 2>where I saw these things. This is right here in
<v Speaker 2>my front yard. I lived just maybe five minutes from
<v Speaker 2>the Tennessee River. Even at that. Yeah, well, Raccoon Mountain
<v Speaker 2>is the mountain I actually saw them. I was on
<v Speaker 2>Suck Creek Mountain. I'm sitting there fishing, and right across
<v Speaker 2>the river from me, up on the other side, there's bluffs,
<v Speaker 2>this land right here where I live. I live right
<v Speaker 2>on the outskirts of Chattanooga, but where I live is
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the Cumberland Mountains, and these mountains here,
<v Speaker 2>even though there's houses right here local you get off
<v Speaker 2>the beaten path and it's pretty remote. There's miles and
<v Speaker 2>miles and miles of the Tennessee River. It's nothing but
<v Speaker 2>just remote rural lamp. So I'm sitting there fishing, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking around the sun starting to pop up, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm noticing these figures, these little figures coming in and
<v Speaker 2>out of these caves right above me. There's caves all
<v Speaker 2>over this place, and I noticed the figure there one minute,
<v Speaker 2>they be gone the next, one minute, going the next.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm really thinking, I'm really not focusing on a lot.
<v Speaker 2>I'm catching fish and catching fish, and until I see
<v Speaker 2>one something grab a ledge and pull itself up on
<v Speaker 2>its lege. And this thing's sitting there looking at me.
<v Speaker 2>So I put on my glasses, pull the bell of
<v Speaker 2>my hat down so I get the glare of the
<v Speaker 2>sun out of my eyes, and I'm looking. Man, that's
<v Speaker 2>not just one. There's a couple of few of these things.
<v Speaker 2>And in the wintertime, when the leaves are off the trees,
<v Speaker 2>you can see the landscape real good. You can see
<v Speaker 2>the caves, the opening of the caves, and this is
<v Speaker 2>where they live. They're still here right now today. They
<v Speaker 2>live in this area, they travel through here. I've got
<v Speaker 2>so taken so many photos since this happened, footprints, tree structures,
<v Speaker 2>you name it. I've been laughed at, scoffed at, but
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I know what I saw and I
<v Speaker 2>can't undo that. It'll be in my brain for the
<v Speaker 2>rest of my life. I'm sitting there, maybe for a
<v Speaker 2>couple hours, watching this, watching these figures running and out
<v Speaker 2>of these caves, and I'm thinking, wow, these things are
<v Speaker 2>right here in my backyard, our mountains, right here, right
<v Speaker 2>outside of the city of Chattanooga. This, I mean, this
<v Speaker 2>is not in the city. I live in the city,
<v Speaker 2>but right at the edge. It's kind of rural where
<v Speaker 2>I live, but just a little ways down the road,
<v Speaker 2>it's it gets very rural when you get down to
<v Speaker 2>the Tennessee River. So I fish a couple hours, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and I soaked that up. I'm coming home. I put
<v Speaker 2>my piss up, and I'm thinking, wow, man, we got
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch right here, right here in my backyard. I don't
<v Speaker 2>call nobody and tell them I don't. I don't go
<v Speaker 2>try to prove anything. I'm still not it's already been proven.
<v Speaker 2>It's a waste of time to do that. For me,
<v Speaker 2>it is. But I realize these things can be anywhere
<v Speaker 2>anytime they want to. They don't have boundaries, and they
<v Speaker 2>don't know what no trespassing signs are where I saw
<v Speaker 2>them as private government land. You're all allowed to step
<v Speaker 2>foot on it. Where I was at, where I was
<v Speaker 2>sitting at was on management area. It's public land. But
<v Speaker 2>right across the river where I saw these things, there's
<v Speaker 2>thousands and thousands of bakers of government lamp Tennessee River
<v Speaker 2>Gorge Company owns a lot of it, which I think
<v Speaker 2>they're a government affeel it. There's something going on that.
<v Speaker 2>But they bought all the land up around here that
<v Speaker 2>was called quote state forest land, and that land they
<v Speaker 2>bought real remote. They bought the land to preserve it. No,
<v Speaker 2>they don't want anything happening to it. You're not even
<v Speaker 2>allowed to camp on their land. And I actually across
<v Speaker 2>the river there's no access to it unless you go
<v Speaker 2>in by boat. So I'm thinking the whole night when
<v Speaker 2>I get back, I'm thinking, man, I was excited, and
<v Speaker 2>I was going to go back down there the next day.
<v Speaker 2>I think, I don't know, watch these things come in
<v Speaker 2>out of that cave again. That was cool in my mind.
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, Wow, that's a lot of Christmas. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there learning this little secret right here. And
<v Speaker 2>these things probably been here forever. They probably watched the
<v Speaker 2>Civil War happen, you know, people coming up down the
<v Speaker 2>river and their boats and some of these caves and
<v Speaker 2>some of this lands so remote a human can't get
<v Speaker 2>up there. Unless they repeal or trot down. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's just straight up and straight down. So
<v Speaker 2>I go back down there the next day. I get
<v Speaker 2>down there a little earlier, this time, about nine thirty,
<v Speaker 2>and I told a few people this story, and I
<v Speaker 2>get laughed at. That's okay, that's okay. I know what
<v Speaker 2>I saw, and I know what's here. I know what's here.
<v Speaker 2>Now they're still here. I don't know if they're there
<v Speaker 2>at this moment as we're speaking, but they're here. So
<v Speaker 2>I go down there the next morning. I'm thinking, this
<v Speaker 2>is cool. I'm gonna get to see this again. And
<v Speaker 2>in my mind, you know why the human brain works.
<v Speaker 2>We play these scenarios out in our mind and our minds,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna get to be my own movie. Start
<v Speaker 2>this is this is the way this is going to happen. No,
<v Speaker 2>it didn't happen that way. It was it did not
<v Speaker 2>happen that way. I'm sitting there fishing, catching fish right
<v Speaker 2>off the bat again. I mean, this little fishing hole
<v Speaker 2>is at times it's almost every cash you get about
<v Speaker 2>or catch fish, one of the two. When whenever thing's right,
<v Speaker 2>the current was good, I start catching fish right off
<v Speaker 2>the bat. And this whole time I'm sitting here watching,
<v Speaker 2>watching the caves, watching the cliffs and the bluff. One
<v Speaker 2>cave is right in front of them and directly across
<v Speaker 2>the river from where I'm at at that point, maybe
<v Speaker 2>eighty yards, it's not that far, a hundred yards at
<v Speaker 2>the most. And then it just slopes up, slops back
<v Speaker 2>a little bit and goes straight up stairs, steps a
<v Speaker 2>little bit, and then goes straight up to the bus.
<v Speaker 2>And it's really from where I'm sitting at and I
<v Speaker 2>saw them coming in and out of them caves. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>two hundred yards, two hundred and fifty yards, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's it's far enough away that I could
<v Speaker 2>tell what was going on. So I'm sitting there fishing again,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, catching fish right off the bat, and
<v Speaker 2>I start hearing these al hoops and I notice when
<v Speaker 2>I catch a fish, I hear these al hoops and
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting. I'm looking at the cat. I'm not seeing nothing.
<v Speaker 2>And the next fish I call it, I hear the
<v Speaker 2>al hoot again. And I can tell, just being out
<v Speaker 2>there by myself, the water nice and calm, no noise,
<v Speaker 2>no boats around. You could tell there wasn't no al hoot.
<v Speaker 2>I mean these hoots was carrying a long way. I
<v Speaker 2>mean you could hear it. You could hear a macover
<v Speaker 2>through the ridges. And now going down the river, it's
<v Speaker 2>just a massive gorge where that river cuts through right there,
<v Speaker 2>mountains on both sides, and you know how sound stays
<v Speaker 2>in one area, but you could still hear the echo
<v Speaker 2>real well. So I kept hearing these al hoopes. I
<v Speaker 2>noticed it would do it. When I would catch a fish,
<v Speaker 2>I would hear al hoot. Now I'd hear another al hoo.
<v Speaker 2>Then I hear alhou to this site. And it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>just one al ho it was several out hooots out there.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking and looking and I'm getting nervous. I'm thinking,
<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, I don't know why I just got
<v Speaker 2>this feeling of I started getting nervous real bad. And
<v Speaker 2>I look across the river and I see this figure
<v Speaker 2>standing there next to this tree. There's a no trespassing
<v Speaker 2>sign on this tree, and this thing is standing right
<v Speaker 2>next to this oak tree where that sign is. This
<v Speaker 2>figure is standing there for one second, then it's gone.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even see it disappear, it just was gone.
<v Speaker 2>It might have been that fast. And I noticed a
<v Speaker 2>couple of more figures. I see real good. It's all
<v Speaker 2>the leaves done fell off the trees. You see the
<v Speaker 2>landscape very well. And I noticed that there's a couple
<v Speaker 2>more figures over there, dart and round, and they're on
<v Speaker 2>another side of the river from me. But this one
<v Speaker 2>figure stood out from behind this tree. I'm six foot four,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna guess that sign over there, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it was just it wasn't a how off the ground,
<v Speaker 2>but this thing towered over that sign about three feet
<v Speaker 2>and it shot me to the court. You know. When
<v Speaker 2>I saw them things two days in a row in
<v Speaker 2>the same area, I tell you what, it scared me
<v Speaker 2>so bad. I didn't go into the woods for two years.
<v Speaker 2>I was scared to even go out camping, hiking, or
<v Speaker 2>do anything. I didn't go fishing or nothing. It shut
<v Speaker 2>me down. I was done. And so I'm sitting around
<v Speaker 2>the house all this time. I'm researching, looking at everything
<v Speaker 2>I can. I'm anybody scating videos about these things. I'm
<v Speaker 2>looking at it, looking at it going down the rabbit hole,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, well, you know that's already been done.
<v Speaker 2>That's you know, my mind. My mind just would not
<v Speaker 2>stop thinking about that. I'm telling everybody I know about it.
<v Speaker 2>My buddies that know me, and my friends that grew
<v Speaker 2>up with me, they know it. Don't lie. They all
<v Speaker 2>know it. Don't lie. But of course you'll have a
<v Speaker 2>few of them that's gonna scoff at you lot, even
<v Speaker 2>some family members. But that's okay. It's strange how none
<v Speaker 2>of them want to go down there with me. But
<v Speaker 2>that's not the only That was my last visual siding
<v Speaker 2>when I saw them things on the ground that day
<v Speaker 2>across the river. They weren't real, real close. It wasn't
<v Speaker 2>like face and face encounter, but it was enough to
<v Speaker 2>let me know, Man, these things are here, Miguel, right
<v Speaker 2>here in my backyard. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
<v Speaker 1>And that's the scary thing is people normally think that
<v Speaker 1>they would be in completely remote areas, but the truth
<v Speaker 1>is they get in the fringes of society.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and these mountains around here, I mean at the
<v Speaker 2>fringes of our society. It gets real remote right off
<v Speaker 2>the bat. It turns into some rough backwoods, remote, a
<v Speaker 2>lot of caves, a lot of bluffs, and most of
<v Speaker 2>our land is that way. Mm hmmm.
<v Speaker 1>Why do you believe there is a large amount of
<v Speaker 1>government land that is completely off access to the public.
<v Speaker 2>I've always wondered that. I'm not going to give the
<v Speaker 2>exact location away online, the exact spot, but I will
<v Speaker 2>say that it's all on the mountain where Raccoon Mountain
<v Speaker 2>UH Electric Plant TVA. It's a TV electricity plant. There's
<v Speaker 2>a big lake on top of that mountain, and they
<v Speaker 2>use that lake to create electricity with turbines. They run
<v Speaker 2>it down to the bottom through these big tubes. In
<v Speaker 2>terms of the generators. You can go on top of
<v Speaker 2>the mountain and fish in the lake, but far is
<v Speaker 2>getting off in the woods and hiking, there is none.
<v Speaker 2>You're not allowed to. They've got certain air as you
<v Speaker 2>can go. But any of that land down through there,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's miles of it. You're not allowed to
<v Speaker 2>go on. It's all of us government land. And there's
<v Speaker 2>very few places that have maybe a little private cabin
<v Speaker 2>where it's been grandfathered in or something like that. There's
<v Speaker 2>not too many of those. There are a few. There's
<v Speaker 2>not hardly any roads to go to any of that
<v Speaker 2>around there, not unless you go on down the river
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I think I think that private land.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But all I know is I was
<v Speaker 2>down there the other day fishing and here here a
<v Speaker 2>malehood and one I'm piercing. That happens all the time,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not surprised. It doesn't shock me anymore it
<v Speaker 2>did when it first happened. I was confused, scared. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not man, that's right here in my backyard. I don't
<v Speaker 2>even know if I want deerhunt anymore. Not right there
<v Speaker 2>where they are. You know that little area, well, right
<v Speaker 2>where I'm at. It's I'm not going to give this
<v Speaker 2>exact location away, but it's Prince Cooper State Forest. It's
<v Speaker 2>thirty two thousand acres square mile or square acres. It's
<v Speaker 2>a lot of land there and then private land. What's
<v Speaker 2>up to that? More government land, more state land. That's
<v Speaker 2>so many miles of it, and it actually runs down
<v Speaker 2>and connects to Franklin State Forest. All the mountains are
<v Speaker 2>interlinked and they all touch. It makes me wonder, is
<v Speaker 2>all this state land in federal land, all these state parks?
<v Speaker 2>Is it for us or something else? It just makes
<v Speaker 2>me wonder. I can't help but wonder.
<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like the sasquatch were possibly watching
<v Speaker 1>you fish from up in the cave, and maybe every
<v Speaker 1>time you would catch one it would excite them.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do. I honestly believe they do, and I
<v Speaker 2>believe they love fish, and I believe that's one of
<v Speaker 2>the things they love. That they have a hard time
<v Speaker 2>kitchen because they can go out in the woods and
<v Speaker 2>kitchen and crew or they won't, but not fish.
<v Speaker 1>I find it fascinating that you had two encounters in
<v Speaker 1>the same area within a couple of days.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I haven't had any more sightings there, but man,
<v Speaker 2>I can't count the encounter as far as whoops alt hooting.
<v Speaker 2>I finally got to nerve. It was about two years
<v Speaker 2>before I went back out in the woods to do anything.
<v Speaker 2>And I ain't no joke. I finally got to nerve
<v Speaker 2>after watching a few of your videos or watching know
<v Speaker 2>How to Hunt, watching I might No, I'm not gonna
<v Speaker 2>sit here around my house or my tail between my legs.
<v Speaker 2>This ain't gonna happen. I was raised out in these
<v Speaker 2>mountains and been hunting and fishing since I was a
<v Speaker 2>little kid. Like I said, I'm fifty nine now, and
<v Speaker 2>I finally got the nerve to go back out and start.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if this is if they're here, they're gonna
<v Speaker 2>leave some kind of sign. That's what animals do. They
<v Speaker 2>leave sign if they're in the area. So I get
<v Speaker 2>out and I start hiking. There's all kinds of high
<v Speaker 2>con trails right here in the state forest all over.
<v Speaker 2>There's there's twenty five miles of one a single lane
<v Speaker 2>back road that runs along the Tennessee River. I'm not
<v Speaker 2>gonna say what side it's on, but there's twenty five
<v Speaker 2>miles of it and there's high contrails all over it.
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee River Gorge owns that too. Same people that own
<v Speaker 2>the same way. They on land on both sides of
<v Speaker 2>the river. So I'll get out. I start hiking, and
<v Speaker 2>immediately when I get in the woods, I'm seeing these
<v Speaker 2>strange tree structures, you know, And I start taking photos
<v Speaker 2>of all this stuff. Man, I took so many photos
<v Speaker 2>of tree structures I blew in the face. They're everywhere.
<v Speaker 2>I've got photos of footprints, tons of footprints. But I
<v Speaker 2>started hiking, and I was scared to death to go camping.
<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm thinking, man, these things out here at night,
<v Speaker 2>there ain't no telling. But I've never heard any stories.
<v Speaker 2>I talked to the locals that live down here on
<v Speaker 2>the river. I've got some friends that live down there
<v Speaker 2>and known them for a long time. They hear stuff
<v Speaker 2>all the time down here. They hear them screaming at night,
<v Speaker 2>hear them wooting. There's are primitive remote campground that I
<v Speaker 2>did start going to after I thought, well, I'm not
<v Speaker 2>going off from these woods by myself. I'll go where
<v Speaker 2>other people are, and man, I'll sit around in this
<v Speaker 2>campground down here on the river. There's three remote campgrounds
<v Speaker 2>down here on Suck Creep, and I'm not gonna say
<v Speaker 2>which one it was. But every night when I go
<v Speaker 2>down there, I sit around the campfire, me and my
<v Speaker 2>dog and be with other people sometime, and you can
<v Speaker 2>hear them things communicating all the time. Hear them whooping,
<v Speaker 2>tree knocking. They'll be whooping on one side of the
<v Speaker 2>river and then back behind you on side of the mountain.
<v Speaker 2>I know it's not people because people don't get out
<v Speaker 2>there and high cutting down them ridges at night time.
<v Speaker 2>They don't even do that in the daytime. These mountains
<v Speaker 2>are so rough around here, the designated Highking trails, they
<v Speaker 2>are pretty cleared out, but they're still rugged. But it
<v Speaker 2>happens all the time now. Like I said, I was
<v Speaker 2>down there fishing a couple of days ago and catching
<v Speaker 2>fish and here whooping, I'll catch a fish. Whoop. Oh
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm thinking, Wow, let's cool. Hey, guys,
<v Speaker 2>I'm used to it now, don't shot me. And I
<v Speaker 2>find it fascinating more than scary. It's just, uh, I'm
<v Speaker 2>still in awe that they're right here and where I live. Man,
<v Speaker 2>it just blows my mind.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it takes a while to wrap your head around
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they live around your home.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And uh, I haven't had anything right here at
<v Speaker 2>my house. I might. I've got a big ridge right
<v Speaker 2>behind me. It's full of deer. Deer all over this place, man,
<v Speaker 2>see him running through the parking lots and everything right here.
<v Speaker 2>And I live right at the foot of Signal Mountain
<v Speaker 2>and it's the beginning of the Cumberland Plateau. Til Cumbland
<v Speaker 2>Trail is right above my house and it runs all
<v Speaker 2>through the state forest. It runs across Signal Mountain right
<v Speaker 2>on up into dun Lap. Uh. Actually it runs over
<v Speaker 2>down there toward where we used to hear them screens
<v Speaker 2>the night when I was a kid. All this stuff's
<v Speaker 2>connected here. Now that I've grown up and I've put
<v Speaker 2>two and two together, I'm not bashful to tell people that, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we got things that live in our woods
<v Speaker 2>here that's not supposed to exist. Yeah, yeah, I understand.
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had any strange paranormal experiences out there.
<v Speaker 2>Not out here, not right out here? I haven't, but
<v Speaker 2>I have right here at my house. I've seen a lot.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of UFOs here we live. I live
<v Speaker 2>not too far from Arnold Engineering Development Center. It's aeed S,
<v Speaker 2>it's an air force base. They do a lot of prototypes,
<v Speaker 2>prototype aircrafts and stuff. And I've seen a lot of
<v Speaker 2>UFOs here. A lot of crafts don't make a sound,
<v Speaker 2>don't make any noise. Almost are you almost on a
<v Speaker 2>nightly basis? If you If I stand out there and
<v Speaker 2>look up long enough, you know, most most people walk
<v Speaker 2>walk around looking at the ground and straight ahead. Even
<v Speaker 2>at that. Man, I'm outside looking up in there, because
<v Speaker 2>there's some weird stuff out here. Far as anything paranormal here, no,
<v Speaker 2>here's some here's some crazy screams at night sometimes right
<v Speaker 2>here on side of the mountain.
<v Speaker 1>You sent over some photos of structures and footprints. What
<v Speaker 1>do you think the structures mean and what are they
<v Speaker 1>trying to tell us.
<v Speaker 2>I'm still learning about the structures, but from what I'm gathering,
<v Speaker 2>call me crazy or whatever, I think they create sort
<v Speaker 2>of an energy for them, the tepees maybe maybe sort
<v Speaker 2>of an energy that they use to mask themselves or
<v Speaker 2>camera fly themselves. I think they have abilities we don't.
<v Speaker 2>I think they're able to blend into any environment, like
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a chameleon. I'm thinking the structures are
<v Speaker 2>used for markers, for direction markers, because these structures are
<v Speaker 2>always changing. I've been documenting these structures, Miguel. They'll be
<v Speaker 2>looking one way one day and go back a few
<v Speaker 2>days later and it looks the same, but it got
<v Speaker 2>a few sticks facing a different way. I think it's
<v Speaker 2>maybe saying, hey, I was here, but now I'm down
<v Speaker 2>this way. Maybe they they're using that to the structures
<v Speaker 2>for identity markers, you know, for their own territory. I've
<v Speaker 2>got some photos of some massive, huge tree structures and
<v Speaker 2>some that are just unique, just very unique and different.
<v Speaker 2>I think the bigger structures, or maybe from the bigger
<v Speaker 2>ones and the smaller ones, or from the smaller ones
<v Speaker 2>that are learning to do those skills. It's I believe
<v Speaker 2>they're not doing it just haphazardly. I'm thinking there's a
<v Speaker 2>reasoning behind it and has to do. I'm thinking they
<v Speaker 2>have to make some of those structures to be able
<v Speaker 2>to have some of the bilities they got. I guess
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm trying to say.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very well, could be. Do you think there's any
<v Speaker 1>correlation between that and the energy plant that you were
<v Speaker 1>talking about on the government land?
<v Speaker 2>I do, I do. I think they have to have
<v Speaker 2>some kind of electricity or some kind of energy to
<v Speaker 2>be able to do some of the things that they do.
<v Speaker 2>I notice there's a lot of power lines here. Since
<v Speaker 2>I realized they're right here in my backyard, since I
<v Speaker 2>quit being scared to get out in the woods, I'm
<v Speaker 2>noticing things I'd never noticed before. I'm noticing on all
<v Speaker 2>of our major tradrail heads, a rural trailheads and the
<v Speaker 2>ones not so rural. At every trailhead and along the
<v Speaker 2>trailheads are structures. And I know hikers aren't taking their
<v Speaker 2>time to go over and stop hiking and create those things.
<v Speaker 2>Most hikers just walk down the trail and half of
<v Speaker 2>them got their earplugs in their ear or looking at
<v Speaker 2>their phone.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I see the same thing around here. It seems like,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe about eighty yards off the trails,
<v Speaker 1>up on the hills in the thick pines. They got
<v Speaker 1>these structures that you can't see from the trails. But
<v Speaker 1>it appears to me that they're watching the hikers and
<v Speaker 1>people using the forest.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think so too. I think so too. And
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of maybe telling the other ones, Hey, this
<v Speaker 2>is where I stand. They can't see you. This is
<v Speaker 2>right out of the side. They're not going to see
<v Speaker 2>these structures here. I don't think these things ever get
<v Speaker 2>seen by anyone unless it's an accident, or unless they
<v Speaker 2>want you to see them, or I don't think they're
<v Speaker 2>able to focus on too many different things at one time.
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe catch them off guard. You hear a
<v Speaker 2>lot of people see them around water and stuff. I'd
<v Speaker 2>like this walk up on them, to catch them getting
<v Speaker 2>a drink or something. I think they focus on one
<v Speaker 2>thing very well. But I think also that the like
<v Speaker 2>you was talking about, like you said about the structures
<v Speaker 2>having something to do with that energy plant. I honestly
<v Speaker 2>believe that there's a there's something to that I hadn't
<v Speaker 2>put my finger on it. But I'm still going down.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going down that rabbit hole as deep as
<v Speaker 2>I was, but I'm still going down the rabbit hole
<v Speaker 2>trying to put my piece of the puzzle together.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard to say. I've heard a lot of
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot reports around nuclear power plants and just strange areas
<v Speaker 1>like that, and it's hard to say why they would
<v Speaker 1>they would want to be in that area.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it's hard to say. It makes me want
<v Speaker 2>to find out just so i'll know not not to
<v Speaker 2>not to. I'm not trying to prove anything, just for
<v Speaker 2>myself and to tell myself, hey, I'm not crazy. I
<v Speaker 2>saw what I saw and uh, and I tell I
<v Speaker 2>tell you one thing that did happen. Uh. This was
<v Speaker 2>last fall. There's a primitive campground on top of the
<v Speaker 2>mountain and this is this is right above where I
<v Speaker 2>had my sidings, just right across the river on the
<v Speaker 2>other mountain. But I was on top of Suck Creek
<v Speaker 2>mountain and this was last fall, and there was there
<v Speaker 2>were three families camping up there. Well one family and
<v Speaker 2>there was two guys and then me and my dog.
<v Speaker 2>There's three different campsites set up, and uh yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of photos that I sent you from
<v Speaker 2>from around that area, the structures and whatnot. And I
<v Speaker 2>found some stuff that looked like they might be graves.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if them guys bury theirself take their
<v Speaker 2>remains in caves. I think that's one reason that bear
<v Speaker 2>finds remains. It is because they're burying them or they
<v Speaker 2>are taking them into the caves. Who knows. But we
<v Speaker 2>were up there camping. It's the first camping trip I
<v Speaker 2>took can After I had that visual sighting on the river,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, I've been out here hiking. I got
<v Speaker 2>these video pictures and videos, and I believe I ain't
<v Speaker 2>got a couple of video There's some blobs there one minute,
<v Speaker 2>next thing, you know, the blobs aren't there. You know,
<v Speaker 2>who knows, a blob squat may be a sasquatch, it
<v Speaker 2>might not be. I don't bake on photos and stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that too much because you know it is what
<v Speaker 2>it is. But we were up there camping, and this
<v Speaker 2>is the strangest encounter I've ever had. I mean, this
<v Speaker 2>weird shot me to my core, but it didn't keep
<v Speaker 2>me from going back out in the woods. But this
<v Speaker 2>is the first time I had gone out overnight camping
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of years since I had my Sadie.
<v Speaker 2>We were up there last fall, this primitive campground, and
<v Speaker 2>I got up there in the middle of the day.
<v Speaker 2>There was a van over there that had a little
<v Speaker 2>family across the pond. There's a spring fed pond that
<v Speaker 2>there's full of fish and it's a real beautiful area.
<v Speaker 2>They keep it a grass cut. It's a in a
<v Speaker 2>real remote area, no electricity. There's two guys in a
<v Speaker 2>tent next to me and my dog and ire I'm
<v Speaker 2>in a tent hammock and she's sleeping on the ground
<v Speaker 2>right next to me. Right at dark, we all hear
<v Speaker 2>this loud whoop. Every one of us heard it. So
<v Speaker 2>we're standing up looking and the family across the pond
<v Speaker 2>they got in their van and took off and got
<v Speaker 2>out of there and left their firebarded. So I'm thinking, dang.
<v Speaker 2>In my mind, I'm thinking that's a person over there
<v Speaker 2>whooping or who knows, but it sounded to me like
<v Speaker 2>a loud whoop. And these people leave, and I'm thinking, well,
<v Speaker 2>do I want to get my car because the main
<v Speaker 2>gate you can't get out of that state park at night.
<v Speaker 2>Those gates locked. You can drive up to the gate,
<v Speaker 2>but that gate's thirty minutes away from the campsite. It's
<v Speaker 2>pretty good ways down that road, eleven point a few
<v Speaker 2>miles eleven point one or two miles, a little over
<v Speaker 2>eleven miles. I'm like, well, if I leave, I had
<v Speaker 2>to sit the gate all night, so I might as
<v Speaker 2>well just stay here. Right at dark, we hear that
<v Speaker 2>whoop and his fan leaves and we're standing out there looking.
<v Speaker 2>Nothing else happens. An hour goes by. Everybody's wound down.
<v Speaker 2>The two guys next to me are in their tent,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm over there poking around my fire, and we
<v Speaker 2>start hearing these strange bird calls. Weird, weird, weird bird calls.
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard no birds make that sound in my life.
<v Speaker 2>And this kept going and kept going and kept going,
<v Speaker 2>and it will circle on our camp and it kept
<v Speaker 2>going and kept going. So I rap, I'll get it
<v Speaker 2>in my tent hammock. I wrap up in it, trying
<v Speaker 2>to go to sleep, and we're hearing these bird calls
<v Speaker 2>all around us. I maybe just ten fifteen yards from
<v Speaker 2>the edge of the woods and we're hearing these bird calls.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just right there in the woods. And me,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there, my dog is cowed down, my heart's
<v Speaker 2>pomping going one hundred miles an hour, and I'm thinking, man,
<v Speaker 2>this is not happening. This ain't happening right now. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm just being honest with you. I was shocked to
<v Speaker 2>the court. I lay there in my little tent, hammock
<v Speaker 2>rolled up, had it zipped up. So I lay there
<v Speaker 2>and kept laying there, and finally all the bird calls
<v Speaker 2>just quit right there in that area, and then across
<v Speaker 2>the road we hear some more. That was about it
<v Speaker 2>for that night. So I get up the next morning
<v Speaker 2>and I want to walk around. I want to walk around,
<v Speaker 2>check things out. So I walk over there, make sure
<v Speaker 2>those people's fires put out, and I made a video.
<v Speaker 2>We got some photos of this. I found some footprints
<v Speaker 2>out in the field across the street. I went to
<v Speaker 2>the area where I thought that the location I thought
<v Speaker 2>that loud whoop came from. So I get back in
<v Speaker 2>there and I find all kinds of tree structures. I
<v Speaker 2>haven't even talked to the guys up at other tent yet.
<v Speaker 2>I just walked straight back there that field, make sure
<v Speaker 2>them folks fires put out. So I get back there
<v Speaker 2>looking around and I start noticing these tree structures and
<v Speaker 2>a few footprints back there. I'm like, yeah, this is
<v Speaker 2>where they were, and it's probably been going on a
<v Speaker 2>long time. I'm probably not the only one this has
<v Speaker 2>happened to. So I'm walking back and uh walk next
<v Speaker 2>to the pond, go up to the campground, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>I walk over to those two guys that was camping
<v Speaker 2>in that tent. They had a little fire going that night.
<v Speaker 2>So I walk up and I graded myself and I
<v Speaker 2>first one come out and said anything. I said, you
<v Speaker 2>got anything weird? Last night? Y'all had any weird whistling?
<v Speaker 2>Sounded like weird birds? And one guy said, yeah, we did.
<v Speaker 2>Here we did, uh, and we had something walking between
<v Speaker 2>our tent and our fire, and we thought it was you,
<v Speaker 2>but we knew you had already got in your your
<v Speaker 2>tent or you was over there and your your fire.
<v Speaker 2>We knew it wasn't you. And Uh, I said, what
<v Speaker 2>do you think it was? He said, we think it
<v Speaker 2>was a ghost or something paranormal. I said, do you?
<v Speaker 2>And I said, I don't know. It might have been,
<v Speaker 2>but I honestly believe it's sasquats. They looked at me funny.
<v Speaker 2>I looked at them funny. I said, either way, it
<v Speaker 2>was strange. It was weird and strange, and I started
<v Speaker 2>walking all around the woods. Oh and this guy did
<v Speaker 2>say the day before he was up in the woods
<v Speaker 2>on top of the ridge, right there above his tent.
<v Speaker 2>He said, I had something strange happened to me yesterday.
<v Speaker 2>What happened, dude, he said, I was up in the
<v Speaker 2>woods by myself, and it was real quiet, and all
<v Speaker 2>I heard was somebody say hello, hello, he said, and
<v Speaker 2>that was it. I didn't see anybody, but I heard
<v Speaker 2>hello a couple of times, and that was all he heard.
<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm thinking it something. Well, that's what he
<v Speaker 2>was leaning towards. Who knows all that may have been paranormal,
<v Speaker 2>It may have been something of this world, something in
<v Speaker 2>or dimensional, extraterrestrial. That stuff exists, it's there too, So
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that that was the strangest, weirdest thing
<v Speaker 2>I guess I've had happen out in the woods.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is strange. And you had the people camping
<v Speaker 1>next door confirm it too.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I was going to pull out my camera
<v Speaker 2>and make a video of it and interview the guys.
<v Speaker 2>But they were scared to They were like, no, we
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do this, and I want to do that.
<v Speaker 2>But I did walk around there and walked off into
<v Speaker 2>the woods and check everything out, you know, one hundred
<v Speaker 2>yard radius, and just walked the whole camp all the
<v Speaker 2>way round, checking everything out. And I did say a
<v Speaker 2>lot of tree structures maybe, Like I said, I got
<v Speaker 2>a couple of footprints across the street in the other
<v Speaker 2>field and right around there were found them footprints. I
<v Speaker 2>found some miniature baby tree structures. And they weren't it'd
<v Speaker 2>be like a couple of them, maybe a handful of
<v Speaker 2>sticks and a teepee shape. But they may be only
<v Speaker 2>ten inches long a foot long. They weren't real big,
<v Speaker 2>but they were just unusual and out of the ordinary.
<v Speaker 2>But these things are real. People need to know they're
<v Speaker 2>out here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, all right, Dale. Well, I appreciate you
<v Speaker 1>telling your encounters and taking your time to get on
<v Speaker 1>the show.
<v Speaker 2>Are You're more than welcome, Miguel, and thank you for
<v Speaker 2>having men. God bless you and be safe. Brother.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God bless you too.
<v Speaker 2>Be saying you too, thank you.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think Dale has a lot of activity going
<v Speaker 1>on around him, and he just happens to be one
<v Speaker 1>of the few people around who know. The structures Dal
<v Speaker 1>showed are very interesting and you could definitely tell they
<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time. I'm in that area. I
<v Speaker 1>would like to go down south and visit Dale sometime
<v Speaker 1>and explore the forest of Tennessee. It would certainly be
<v Speaker 1>a very neat trip, and I think it would be
<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity to catch some activity on camera. Anyways,
<v Speaker 1>thank you everyone for watching, and I will catch you
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