Hour 3 – Jeff Passan, The Perfect Wide Receiver

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got up there right now. Worst word in sports? Your options are collapse, quit, cheat, and loyalty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right now.

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Speaker 3: Quit has about forty eight percent of that vote, followed relatively closely by cheat, collapse in loyalty, not too not voting too high.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that Fritzi said that the worst word in sports is cheat and you're wearing a Houston Astros.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a little ironic.

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Speaker 5: There is that.

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Speaker 6: There is that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your Astros might not make the playoffs. Yeah, if theaddle maredis got to cheat more.

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Speaker 4: To a bang a garbage can or something I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, bang a gong. Get it on. Jeff Passing, ESPN senior Baseball insider joining us on the program. How are you?

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Speaker 7: It was a great line, man, Thank you for that. That genuinely made me laugh. Do we have a camera. Can we see the Astros.

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Speaker 2: You know, can we Mario? Can you show Fritzy with his Astros gear? Let me see?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Right, And it's the slow pan of shame. Oh boy, yeah, I will say something. It takes some kahonahs go and wear that. The way that they're playing right now. They saw right now, like they've lost five in a row. They have blown it. They're losing games to the A's there, they're just out of the playoffs. Like the Astros are so bad right now that Detroit is still in a playoff spot. And Detroit has had arguably the greatest collapse in September history in baseball.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: I know, you have to have a team that has a comeback. And the Guardians had played well, they pitched really incredible. But what happened with the Tigers.

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Speaker 7: The pitching has just been abominable.

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Speaker 9: And you know, it was interesting because earlier this year, Dan they like they looked like maybe the best team in baseball, and they had continued what they'd done to everyone else last September.

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Speaker 7: That's happening to them right now. Remember they were fifty five and sixty three at one point. They traded Jack Flaherty last year, and they wound up making a pretty spirited playoff run to the Division Series where they pushed Cleveland's Game five before Cleveland won that series and faced the Yankees in the ALCS. But what the Tigers have done to this point, it's embarrassing and nobody there, frankly has any answers for it. Aj Hinch is saying, you know, we're trying, We're we're doing our best, but they just they look lifeless out there. And when you look at the talent on this Cleveland Guardian team, you say, how they have two hitters in Jose Ramirez and Kyle Manzardo who have ops pluses over one hundred, which means they have two hitters who are better than league average two and they're going to win. It looks like at this point the American League Central Division. And you look at their pitching staff, and let's not forget they lost their all worlds closer and a rotation piece in Emmanuel Class and Luis Ortiz to allegations of being involved in gambling, and so the Guardians looked like they were cooked. They were talking about trading Stephen Kwan at the deadline. And here they are every year. Steven Vote has done an incredible job managing this team, and they just never lost faith. And you got to believe in teams that can push on with what they've been through.

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Speaker 2: I said a couple of weeks ago, if Cal Rawly hit sixty and they won the division, that he was going to win the MVP. Being a catcher and a better than average catcher. You win that division and you're hitting sixty home runs, well, check check check, is he going to win the MVP? I don't know, because the dollars Cider don't have you taken a straw vote here.

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Speaker 7: I don't ask other reporters. It's like asking somebody who you've voted for. They're just things that you'd like, you don't do in polite society. Dam And let's put.

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Speaker 2: It this way.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm glad that I'm not voting for MVP this year because it's there's such great cases to be made for both col Rally and for Aaron Judge. And let me turn this on you, since you are in the clear pro rally camp. Aaron Judge is ops right now is one hundred and seventy five points higher than Cal Rally's Are you telling me that because cal Rally has a home run total that ends in a round number, and that because Hal Rawley happens to play with really good guys surrounding him and a team that went out and got Josh Naylor and Gino Suarez at the deadline that helped push them toward that division title. Are you telling me all that makes up, along with the defensive elements for that one hundred and seventy five point gap, which is real, which is significant, and which is enormous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a great Honestly, I think both of them'srving past.

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Speaker 2: Mickey Mantle is a switch hit or he's hitting sixty home runs and he's doing it at the catcher position. That never happens. I mean no, it never, It never has and it won't happen again. I mean, he'll hit thirty eight next year.

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Speaker 7: But so do you think do you think you're suffering from Aaron Judge?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well but it happens though, Jeff. It happened with Michael Jordan. I voted for him every year even when Bart and Karl Malone won, because I said, there's no more valuable player to the league than Michael Jordan. I don't care what your numbers are, I don't care what your team did. That guy is the most valuable Aaron Judge and show Hey O Tani, I said, I thought Kyle Schwarber deserved a lot more respect than he's getting because he has He's going to be a distant second to show Heyo Tani, and I think that given what the phi Philly's got the best odds to win the World Series, Schwarber's been unbelievable. But yes, Otani has that advantage.

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Speaker 7: His second home run last night was spectacular, four hundred and sixty eight feet just into the night in Philadelphia. He's absolutely carried the Phillies to this point. And yeah, listen, I'm with you, but I think there's a little inconsistency going on here. If you're voting for Michael Jordan every year when Michael Jordan was putting up the best numbers, have you softened as you have grown wise and gone were for the narrative vote because the objective vote is for Aaron Judge. The narrative vote is unquestionably for cal Rally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Aaron Judge was not Michael Jordan in the postseason, I was voting on the totality of what that season was going to be, and Aaron Judge is not a great postseason performing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we don't get to vote, like all of our votes are due before the postseason begins.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not saying that. What, you know, what my formula was was fair, but I think it kind of bore out that. Hey, he did win six championships in those years, even when he wasn't the MVP. And Aaron Judge, you know, has done incredible, you know, hitting fifty home runs, He's been incredible. To him, he really, yeah, he really has been incredible. I just think you know this, as a writer, we love a new story. What else are you going to say about Aaron Judge? And he nearly went to the Giants? Boy, he was a great high school tight end.

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Speaker 7: What okay? How about this? Aaron Judges in the midst of one of the great stretches in baseball history for hitters, putting him up there with Barry Bond's babe Ruth and I'm not sure who else. Like, it's one of those types of stretches where when you look at what Aaron Judge has done over the last four seasons in particular, but really for the entirety of his career, he has made himself within ten years and Inner Circle first ballot, no doubt Hall of Famer, who's going to go down among the greatest players in the history of the greatest franchise in baseball. And this year in particular, what he's doing. He's leading the league in batting, hitting three thirty, around three thirty, when nobody hits for average anymore. In an era where home runs are not difficult to come by necessarily but certainly not easy, He's going out them with regularity. He gets on base more than anyone, He slugs better than anyone. He just puts up numbers that are so much different than everybody else in the sport. He is the outlier.

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Speaker 2: Dan and I with that, I think Aaron Judge is great. He's not a great postseason performers. Yeah, okay, but we look at all of the grades of all time and what do we focus on postseason? That's how you become greats of all time. Aaron Judge is a wonderful regular season player. I have no qualms with you.

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Speaker 7: Do you think do you think Dan Marino was great. Do you think Charles Barkley was great?

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you, we're great regular season players.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't personally differentiate those two.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we do that with quarterbacks all the time. Eli's going to the Hall of Fame. Why because he won two Super Bowls? Not because of what he did during the regular season. So we you know, why don't we do that in other sports? Barry Bonds didn't win anything. Yeah, we crushed Clayton Kershaw because he can't do anything in the postseason. He's one of the greatest regular season pitchers of all time. Like we do hold other people accountable in other sports, why can't we do that? You know sideful of these cornerbacks.

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Speaker 4: On you can.

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Speaker 7: It is within your right and it makes for great arguments. I just, you know, I look at it like I think the regular season matters, and I just don't want that to get swept away amid all of the discussion about what the postseason is.

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Speaker 2: Okay Otani is always going to have like a twenty yard head start in a forty yard dash, right, totally. I mean every season he starts at the twenty yard line and everybody starts, you know, at the starting line, and he didn't really pitch that much. It just now he did, you know, hit home runs, but he didn't steal bases like he did his average, you know, considerably. But he's going to run away with another MVP.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because he's putting up almost identical numbers and in some case better numbers than Kyle Schwarburn. Oh, by the way, he threw fifty innings of sub three e are.

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Speaker 2: On top of that.

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Speaker 7: Like, it's just it's it's tough. It's tough for me to look at Otani and not vote for him every year he stays healthy just because he's two players in one.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I know, I know, like you.

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Speaker 7: Just I can't get past that he is the freak of all freaks. And honoring him with the MVP Award, I'm not sure that even does does him the service that he's out.

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Speaker 2: I felt like a little tense there. I'm sorry, I get a little animated.

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Speaker 7: Here's essentially wrong. I listen, I appreciate, I appreciate arguing with people who are wrong.

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Speaker 2: Great, I know me too. Can we get rid of this stupid term robo ump because it's not a robo ump Okay.

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Speaker 7: Nope, it is not a robo ump but.

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Speaker 2: People, I think they're going to be robots out there, Jeff and I tell you, but.

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Speaker 7: Can Yeah, but I love that. I would love to see, Like just I would love to see what a robot umpire's strike call would look like. Like No, but robots are good enough these days where I feel like the guy would be like pretty smooth and calling a strike. And I've always wondered, like if I were an umpire, what would my strike three call be? I feel like we could get a robot umpire doing a backflip into the splits and then just like ringing the guy up right there. But no, the Automated Ball Strike System it's twelve cameras that are around the ballpark that can track a pitch with margin a bear of one sixth of an inch. And the idea is to ensure that there are no really bad calls that are made in high leverage, important situations. And beyond that, I think it's also an opportunity, or it's going to become an opportunity to reward people who understand the strike zone, Like if you're a catcher or a hitter who has a great grasp of the strike zone. This is a rule that's going to advantage you, and it's going to make you become a more valuable player.

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Speaker 2: You know what's great about the postseason? Everything We don't start with somebody on second base in the tenth Listen.

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Speaker 7: I love I love the Pitchcock. I think ABS is going to be really great. I am totally with you on the automatic runner, and I think it's a I get the intention behind it. I just don't like it. Give me seventeen any games all day. I'll take them, especially in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. We'll chop it up again in the postseason. Thank you can't wait, buddy. Thanks Jeff Passon, he's always wrong. ESPN Senior Baseball insider. Yeah, get fired up a little bit there. Passionate, that's what they used to call it. I got passion, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 10: As far as baseball, you were talking about the postseason, I think numbers are more important than World Series wins when you're talking about who gets into the Hall of Fame or not Ted Williams. He doesn't have any rings, but we still consider him to be the greatest hitter of all time, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but back then, you didn't have wild cards, and you had one opportunity, you had to beat the Yankees. If you didn't beat the Yankees, didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we look at guys Mike Trout's been in three playoff games. But I'm just saying, and you have these wild card opportunities.

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Speaker 10: But I'm just saying, as far as the numbers, Oh, I know, numbers do matter in baseball more so than any other sport. The numbers are the most important thing. It doesn't matter about world like you said, because only two teams win World season and there was no wild card, no divisional round. That's the only thing that was important. So we're talking about, oh who got to the playoffs who didn't? It's not important?

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Speaker 2: But why isn't We don't look at championships world series in baseball the way we do the NBA and football quarterbacks and all players in the NBA. But baseball, Barry Bonds didn't win anything, went to a World Series, he didn't do anything.

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Speaker 10: But I think it's because of the historical context. We don't know how many World Series Babe Ruth won. We know the Yankees won a lot of World Series. But that's not why we consider him to be the greatest player of all time.

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Speaker 2: But why don't why don't we weighed the same way with how many championships? We do this with pitchers probably more so. What was you know, your record or er? You know, Kurt Schilling to me is a Hall of Famer because of what he did in the postseason.

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Speaker 11: Yes, but yeah, Kurt's a great example. He was a very good regular season pitcher. He finished three times runner up for Cy Young. He was lights out in the postseason eleven and two, three titles. He was direct responsible for three titles, and he does not get the boost to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know his politics have heard him, but they shouldn't.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 2: I just what did you do as a baseball player? Were you a good teammate as a baseball player? Is another thing that's brought up. And if Kurt Schilling played quarterback, he'd be a Hall of Famer, right, He'd have three titles, he'd be largely responsible. Let's say he went eleven and two in the postseason and won three titles. He's a Hall of famer. All right, let me take a break, get some phone calls here. I like that, get a little fired up here, baseball talk. Yeah, a little conversational chatter there, you know, I like that. All Right, we'll take a break. We're back after this.

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Speaker 5: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve. Save travels Jimmy in Houston. Hi, Jimmy, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 17: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 16: How you doing good?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 17: I I've just heard your interview with Tyson that he's talking about how cal Rawley might not be the MVP. What are we talking about here? Like, I'm a huge Astro fan and it's a huge collapse where we've had in the last week. But to say that cal Rawley's not the like MVP, that's that's that's hogwash, man.

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Speaker 18: That guy's MVP.

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Speaker 2: All right? Thank you, Jimmy. I agree you win the division. You are putting up historical numbers, and you're doing that as a catcher. I think forty eight of his sixty home runs came while he was catching a game. He's a better than average catcher. I don't know if he's continued considered elite. I haven't looked at those numbers. But you talk about value, and that's what we're talking about. And yes, is there voter for probably with Aaron Judge, I guess, But cal Rawley did something special. Aaron Judge was Aaron Judge. Cal Rawley did something special. Yeah, Paul, I'm looking at Aaron Judge's numbers. He's given the voters no wiggle room, though I mean to drop off his minis school at best, he will not. In the past four years, there's no room.

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Speaker 11: Like you said about Otani, he didn't pitch a lot, and his stolen bases numbers were quite a bit down. They were galactic last year, but Judge's given them nowhere to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Judge has put forth a Judge season. Cal Raley put for something that has never happened before. You know, when Judge hit sixty two home runs giving the MVP, no problem with that. But cal Rawley hit sixty for a team that won their Yankees didn't win their division. The Mariners won their division. I have to like, you got a factor in everything here, and the fact that he's a catcher, I have to factor that in. Let's see Andy and Newport. Hi, Andy, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 5: You're going to boys just two two of five. And I was calling you know, I'm fritzy. I never thought i'd call it him, say, sucking fisty. But the fact that you do not move over in the path, then you can suck it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Andy, That's all I wanted to say.

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Speaker 4: And Clinton Kurtscher had a great regular season.

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Speaker 2: You are adjusting though, aeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because that was That's not my intent.

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Speaker 15: And if people think that and I feel bad, then I'm purposely trying to block traffic.

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Speaker 2: DraftKings says cal Rawley as a slight favorite over Aaron Judge World Series odds. Phillies are your favorite, and then it's the Mariners, then the Dodgers, then the Yankees, Brewers, Blue Jays, Padres and the Cubs. Keith and Chico is back. Hi, Keith, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 12: Dan, thanks for having me back. I wanted to make a comment and ask a question. Earlier, you guys were talking about quitting and then had a nice dialogue about how Andrew Luck quit.

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Speaker 19: I'd like you to.

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Speaker 12: Break down how Antonio Brown quit and maybe give us your thoughts on the right and wrong ways to quit.

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Speaker 2: Thanks you guys, Well, not during a game, or I mean he took his jersey off, he went crazy. That there's no right way to quit during a game. But they're not throwing you the ball and you're upset. You know, that's embarrassing with Antonio Brown. I mean I still maintain when Bontez perfect hit him and gave him a concussion, that seemed to change him. Although you know I talked to somebody in Pittsburgh this maybe it was last year, and they talked about how Antonio Brown got full of himself. You know, he had become a star and he seemed to change. Therefore, there was this entitlement, and that does happened at that position, a sense of entitlement. I need my touches. I don't care who you are. You may be the greatest quarterback of all time. Get me the ball. And you know, sometimes you're not thinking straight, and certainly that's quitting. That's flat out quitting on your team.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Mark, is Antonio Brown going to have like a Kurt Shilling situation where he's left out of the Hall of Fame because of his antics off the field.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he has the numbers to be all, you know, wide receiver. Like he was there for five or six years, you could say he was the best or in the conversation, best wide receiver. I just I don't know if he's going to stack up statistically to everybody else Yeston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say he had a six year run and even really seven out of eight years he had a run that was spectacular. Everybody knew he was getting the ball and you still couldn't stop him. Him and Julio Jones were sort of one A and one B of by far the best wide receivers in the game.

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Speaker 2: And I would take Antonio Brown. Yeah, I would too. I just felt like you could put him anywhere on the field and he was going to separate. You know, he could take a two yarder and take it fifty. Julio to me was your prototypical tall receiver, could run at great hand. You know, all the Hall of Fame receiver, Antonio Brown was just one of those guys that came out of nowhere and you're like, he's unstoppable, spectacular, Yeah, unbelievable player. Yeah, Paul, if.

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Speaker 11: You took Antonio Brown's name off these numbers. For a six year run, he averaged one hundred and fifteen catches and fifteen hundred yards a season and about I'm looking about eleven touchdowns this season. Four first team All Pros in a row. There's that gets you in. I don't know, I'm saying he's not gonna go one on the first ballot.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he's not gonna be free. They make people pay, yeah, he's Yeah. They factor in stuff off the field, even though they shouldn't because they did that with Michael Irvin, Terrell Owens. They didn't do it with Lawrence Taylor. They did with some other people there.

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Speaker 10: Yes, mar Well even on the field, because we just talked about the way he quit. Yeah, he quit in the middle of the game in met Life Stadium, So that's definitely going to hurt.

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Speaker 2: Did he get a thousand catches in his career?

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Speaker 11: He had nine hundred and twenty eight catches, But he did it basically in seven seasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But you. Still they don't pro rate you. They'd like to know how many did you end up with? It seems like you have to get to a thousand receptions.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Paully, Calvin Johnson only has seven hundred and thirty one catches. He was first team All Pro three years in a row, not four. Yeah, he had one season with more than one hundred catches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was watching the it's I guess it's a thirty for thirty on Lane Kiffin. But it was on the mother Ship last night, like the many lives of Lane Kiffen, and Lane Kiffen was the Raiders coach and he's thirty one years of age, and he quickly realizes he has no input here. Al Davis is going to make the call. They have the number one pick in the draft and Lane Kiffen wants to take Calvin Johnson. Al Davis says, no, We're taking JaMarcus Russell, one of the biggest busts in NFL history. And Kiffin is saying, look, I got a guy who's going to be a Hall of Famer there, and I want to take Calvin Johnson. And Al Davis wanted to take JaMarcus Russell, but Al loved to have that guy who could throw it down the field. Loved he was always in love with the bomb. In fact, you know, Darryl Lamonica, the mad bomber, Kenny Stabler didn't have a great arm, but you know you still had wide receivers who could get down the field. But you know, Kiffen was thirty one years of age. And it's well done, you know, because you realize Lane Kiffin, he's had many lives and he's done a great job at ole Miss. I think he's in his what sixty year This is the longest he's ever been in a job, and uh got his kids there living with him. Now his daughter's dating somebody from LSU, and now ole Miss plays LSU. He's a football player. And then Lane says take the over in that game. I don't know what he means by then, but I don't want my coach talking about the point spread. I don't want that at all. Hey take the over, Okay, that means both teams aren't going to stop each other. But then his daughter's boyfriend, I think, is a linebacker, and maybe that's what he's saying, take the over because we're gonna score on their asses. Yes, PAULI.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he didn't say take the over, because I am. I've got that.

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Speaker 11: Two thousand and seven draft JaMarcus Russell taken number one by Oakland. Amongst the players they passed on Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, Drell Reeves in the first fifteen picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yikes, Al And I don't know when that movie is coming out with Christian Bale and Nicholas Cage, but every time I see Christian Bale, I mean he looks like Al Davis. And they've done a really good job with Nicholas Cage looking like John Madden. Like that's not one of those where you go, you know who would look like a really good John Madden Nicholas Cage. But they did a pretty good job there. Anthony in Long Island, Hi, Anthony Anthony, are you at work? Anthony Anthony? Hey, I'm sorry.

00:29:40
Speaker 18: Dan say, all right, So Europe is going to win the Ryder Cup. It is a luck a lock, huh okay, plus they're like plus one seventy, but it's a lock. Let me tell you why. Real facts. They have the same team as last time when they dominated the US does not have the same team. They have a weaker team. They don't have Jordan's speech, they don't have Ricky and Keegan. Bradley snubbed Maverick McNeely by taking Sam Burns and Patrick Cantley. Okay, sure we have home advantage in the last five rodd A Cups of one at home, but Europe is gonna take this. It's not even gonna be close.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: Does anybody want to take USA versus Anthony? There on Long Island kind of have to write, Yeah, USA, Anthony's taking the European team. USA. Get ready for that chance. Thank you, Anthony. I guess nobody wants to be too invested in that. Oh Rup, you're or Rup. It's not the same. No, it's not.

00:30:40
Speaker 3: It doesn't really work in the same way, does it.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: You're Oh up Josh in California? Hi Josh, what's on your mind today?

00:30:47
Speaker 9: Hi?

00:30:47
Speaker 7: Dan?

00:30:48
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:30:48
Speaker 8: Five nine, that's puffet. I just wanted to call about judging a player based on his postseason performance. I think it's that's affair or in basketball, based on the team sides, you have a bigger impact. Where baseball football it's so difficult to say one player is just the best ever because It just depends on a lot of other factors, you know, Like like football, that's why Saint Patrick Mahomes is better than Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson's tough because Patrick Mahomes has been in such a He's been blessed with a great team, a great coach, great coordinators, great defense. So I just think it's harder to say a player is great, our outstanding just based on it out as postseason performance or the team's performance. Based in football, and it's been baseball, but in basketball, teams more fairs.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's five guys out there and you have more of a say in the outcome of the game. But we judge quarterbacks and they're only out there for half the time. Baseball, same thing. Offense. You know you're out there playing defense and then you go, uh. But you know, pitchers, we tend to we add more value or subtract more value depending on what you did in the postseason. And in some cases that you know, you can be borderline Hall of Famer or you could be no doubt. John Smoltz got into the Hall of Fame for a couple of reasons, now in no particular order. Very media friendly, he was a great starting pitcher and become a became a great closer as well, and he was great in the postseason. Jack Morris got into the Hall of Fame because Jack Morris was the ace for three different teams that won World Series titles. It does add value. I'm not saying it should necessarily take away as much as it does add. Yes, Marmon, So.

00:32:40
Speaker 10: I think it adds value. If you're a borderline Hall of Famer, it's not going to put you in. Say if you're you know, Hank Aaron like man he had a great World Series, okay, but he still has seven and fifty five home runs in three thousand hits, so that's not going to matter to him. But a borderline Hall of Famer like Jeter five Rings helps him get into the Hall of Fame. I think you get in anyway, but it helped him get into the Hall of Fame.

00:33:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's more of a pitching element for me that pitchers will stand out because they used to be in control of a game. Where's a hitter, I can pitch around you, I can take you out of a game. Pitcher like Pedro Martinez or Sandy Kofax or Clayton Kershaw. You know, what did you do in the postseason? What did you not do in the postseason? Yeah? Pulling.

00:33:26
Speaker 11: John Smoltz was, like you said, was a very good regular season pitcher. In the postseason, he was fifteen and four in his career, one of the best of all time. Greg Maddox might be the greatest regular season pitcher of all time. That's a lot of experts say that. In the postseason he was eleven and fourteen.

00:33:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. Tom Glavin wasn't great during the postseason, but great during the regular season. Mike and Oregon, Hey Mike, what's on your mind today?

00:33:48
Speaker 6: They five ten, one ninety. I think maybe, Dan, you're kind of pulling a Fritzy here, But I love you guys, listen to you every day. Fritzy behaves a certain way because he thinks people should be slowing down, so he doesn't move out of the lane. You think we should be everybody. It's not the regular season MVP. You think it's the entire season MVP when it's not. It's the regular season MVP. And the speed limit is what the speed limit is, But Fritzi thinks the speed limit should be something different. You think it should be something different. I think you're pulling a Fritzy here.

00:34:27
Speaker 2: Love you. First of all, Mike, you wrong because I am viewing the regular season. Cal Rawley hasn't been in the postseason yet. I'm talking about him being the MVP. Jordan's the only one I treated differently, and I looked at that what was going to be, what was going to happen, and I thought that he would win championships. That's all. Whether it was right or wrong during that stretch when I was voting. But I'm talking about what the postseason can mean for you. Cal Rawley should win the MVP because it's a regular season award. I'm not holding Aaron Judge not playing well last year in the postseason against him. This year he's put up MVP like numbers. But I don't know how you get I'm only talking about the postseason. I'm talking about certain sports in certain positions where what you do in the postseason is magnified.

00:35:24
Speaker 10: Yes, Martin, if Cawraley was in the National League, would he be your MVP.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: If they win the division, if they won the National League West over the Dodgers, Yes, yes, yes, I would have him miss the MVP.

00:35:40
Speaker 10: But it has to be a magical historical season for somebody to beat Otania.

00:35:44
Speaker 2: He won the division, his team won the division. I got to factor that in. And he hit sixty home runs and he plays catcher. Never happened before. Take a break back after this.

00:35:57
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk line up in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Last call for phone calls, what we learn? What's in store tomorrow? And I am on my second hot dog this morning? Talking baseball?

00:36:18
Speaker 2: What sport? Okay? What food do you have at a baseball game that you wouldn't normally have any other place? Paulie?

00:36:25
Speaker 11: A bag of peanuts, just go through them.

00:36:27
Speaker 2: Okay, Marvin, nachos?

00:36:30
Speaker 4: Okay, ice cream in a mini baseball helmets?

00:36:35
Speaker 2: Well, but you would have ice cream, would but not yet.

00:36:37
Speaker 4: Nachos is something that I would normally not have, But in a game I would.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: Enjoy something about a hot dog when it's grilled.

00:36:46
Speaker 8: Yo.

00:36:47
Speaker 2: That's it right there, dude, Yeah, ye.

00:36:49
Speaker 20: Nailed baseball noises. Come on now, baby, came on us there? Hop bet come on blue we say, kid, come on squeezing him. You're squeezing him blue? Yes, don When was the last time?

00:37:04
Speaker 15: Even if they sell it? What cracker Jack's at the supermarket? That seems like something that would be a baseball game?

00:37:09
Speaker 4: Is nowhere else?

00:37:10
Speaker 17: Ever?

00:37:10
Speaker 2: Yeah? Peanuts cracker Jacks. I don't care if I ever get back. Aren't there peanuts in Crocker Jacks? Yes?

00:37:17
Speaker 4: Confirma but there saw those two separate items.

00:37:19
Speaker 6: I think.

00:37:19
Speaker 2: Thank you to add in Chicago, I had.

00:37:25
Speaker 21: Hey, good morning. First off, tip of the caf to Tyler. Just a nice dude, does a great job, always personal. I'm sure it's hectic as heck, and I appreciate how kind he is. Apologies up front. I'm a little behind on today's show. Look forward to catching it on the pod. But I got to say yesterday guys, and one of my favorite things of your show is the callbacks. I got a call back to yesterday. I've never been so mad at someone as I was at Fritzy. And I do love you Fritzy, but I was yelling at the radio with someone please check him, check him. If you want to stay in the left lane, I don't get it. If you want to just too along. Two tole along in the middle lane and let people pass you. You could still do your five or ten mile an hour over, but you can let the people in the passing lane. As was discussed Seaton, I know you're with me pretty much everyone else was, but man, it was maddening. I don't know if it was a bit. Don't think that it was Fritzy. But come on, get out of the way.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: There's nothing on this show involving Fritzy. That's a bit nothing. That's who Todd is.

00:38:26
Speaker 15: I think I'm being misportrayed as someone that just hangs endlessly in the left lane. I'll drive some of the left lane, and seating at tested to Room said, I spend the majority of my time in the middle lane when I happened to be in the left lane. I don't appreciate someone if I'm going seventy five miles down of Todd driving on my butt.

00:38:40
Speaker 2: Todd, you portrayed yourself as somebody misportrayed myself.

00:38:43
Speaker 15: I don't spend I don't I don't drive along this is in the left lane. I'm afraid to crash into the left barrier there. I like the middle lane so I can see what's on my left and right. But when I'm in the left lane and I'm going already ten miles fifteen past to speed them, it don't be on my buck.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: We're changing once again. You're moving the gold post. Did you see where the football league is going from one hundred and ten yards to one hundred? What I think? I think this is? Has this been made public? This is gonna be awkward. I think they're going from one ten to one hundred. Do you see anything?

00:39:17
Speaker 11: Yes, PAULI I saw a story said the CFL end zones are being shortened from twenty yards to fifteen yards in twenty twenty seven.

00:39:25
Speaker 2: Nothing going from one ten to one hundred.

00:39:29
Speaker 11: That's all I have right now?

00:39:30
Speaker 2: Is okay?

00:39:30
Speaker 11: But you lose ten yards overall on the field.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what made the CFL awesome. Man Todd has a Thursday night football headline. I started off, Yeah, go ahead, nobody else has one, but you go.

00:39:42
Speaker 15: I'm gonna go with Gosh Darnold Sam's two picks raises Arizona. I think that one?

00:39:47
Speaker 2: All right, Paul? You got one?

00:39:49
Speaker 11: Uh cup check Cooper balls out against the Cardinals.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: You go sexual on Tondre me double on ton. Yes, you do, okay, I love it every time. A lot of ball. Yeah, you're fixated on balls.

00:40:04
Speaker 4: No one's gonna take that out of content.

00:40:06
Speaker 2: Stiff competition.

00:40:09
Speaker 4: Goes nuts and win against the.

00:40:10
Speaker 2: Cardinal Oh family, Nik you Todd, Uh Julian in Phoenix, Hi, Julia.

00:40:21
Speaker 19: Hey, I couldn't get through yesterday. But uh, Fritzie, I got your back, dude. Like everybody's sitting here defending criminal speeding, like he's already admitting he's going seventy five almost eighty. If you guys are in such a hurry, I don't. I totally agree with you, Fritzie. And by the way, we're gonna see you at the.

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Same next day at the red light anyway.

00:40:40
Speaker 19: So first thing, you got your back, dude.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: But Todd is breaking the speed limit. Two, he's going seventy five.

00:40:47
Speaker 4: That is also wrong, But he's wrong to be on someone's touch.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: That's not in Seaton.

00:40:51
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the rest of the country, but I know here in Connecticut there are rarely stop lights on major interstate highways where the speed limit is sixty five.

00:41:00
Speaker 10: Yes, marm and Julian. Also, who in the blue hell are you to say? You know what I'm going fast enough. No one else to go as fast as I.

00:41:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, Todd, you have become the speed police with the left lane, I mean very.

00:41:14
Speaker 4: Important around go around.

00:41:15
Speaker 2: What did you learn?

00:41:17
Speaker 15: Anthony on Long Island says Europe is a lock to win the Ryder Cup and it won't even be close.

00:41:21
Speaker 2: Whoa Seaton?

00:41:23
Speaker 3: I learned that Todd is actually not a left lane driver.

00:41:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's changed.

00:41:27
Speaker 4: Been a passenger in my vehicle.

00:41:29
Speaker 15: He knows.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: Marvin, you think Jeff passing is always wrong?

00:41:32
Speaker 11: Paul Todd misportrayed himself.

00:41:36
Speaker 5: It is.

00:41:36
Speaker 2: It's like Barkley said, he misquoted himself in his own book. Todd, what did I learn?

00:41:40
Speaker 4: We should make an extra effort to it? And I was Marvin more while I apparently sucked the air out of the room.

00:41:45
Speaker 2: Enjoy the Football Gambling podcast later today at Danpatrick dot com. We'll talk to you tomorrow on a Meet Friday.