NFL Cover Zero: Injury Updates and NFL Week 16 Previews !
Matt Jones and Drew Franklin add Drew to the list of NFL injuries from this week. What is the future of Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs? Matt is now a believer in Bo Nix as a top QB that's capable of winning of Super Bowl. The Steelers top the Dolphins, but the real story is Tua's future in Miami.
Joe Burrow will start the remaining 3 games despite the Bengals being eliminated from the playoffs. Saturday NFL games begin this week with Eagles/Commanders and Packers/Bears. Matt explains what this game means for Chicago. The Broncos are on the verge of clinching their division and possibly the AFC, we review the scenarios.
Which team is most likely to get the top pick in the NFL Draft? Matt wonders which team having a bad season will have a big upset late in the season. Philip Rivers gets another start as the Colts host the 49ers. The Rams visit the Seahawks on Thursday. Matt picks his three best games in NFL Week 16 and we make Survivor and TD Parlay picks!
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00:00:06 Speaker 1: NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. 00:00:20 Speaker 2: It's another episode of NFL Cover zero coming from Lexington, Kentucky, where we are in different spots because he's Drew Franklin, I'm Matt Jones, and Drew is. 00:00:34 Speaker 3: Hobbled. 00:00:35 Speaker 1: He has a back injury that has made it to where he can barely move, and so he called the nursing home and got them to put him in his share so he can join us. 00:00:47 Speaker 3: Drew, are you all right? 00:00:49 Speaker 1: First of all, you've had to miss a couple of days of radio and just is everything okay? 00:00:54 Speaker 3: I'm getting by. 00:00:54 Speaker 4: I can tell you it is not fun when that backspasm locks in. I haven't felt pain like that in forever, but I'm playing through it. It's just been a bad week of injuries across the NFL, me included, but I had to show for the show. 00:01:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean people who haven't had back pain. You and I have shared it for a long time. I mean not like literally shared it, but we both have it. It's the worst, Like I mean, well, I'm sure there are things that are worse, but when you get a certain kind of pain in your back. You can't move, especially if it's in your lower back, like whatever you want to do, whether it's you know, walk, just lay down, throw things at billy like there's nothing you can do, and it's the worst. 00:01:39 Speaker 4: There was a moment last night. I've been sleeping at night, I've just been staring at the ceiling. But I just thought, I wish I just had like a broken arm, because then it's just one arm. It's over here to the side. I still got this one. I can walk around, but I like physically cannot get up and move from one room to the other. I'm pretty much had to crawl just to get here. It's taking me down quite a bit. 00:01:56 Speaker 3: So are you did you do anything for it? 00:01:58 Speaker 1: Are you at the age where like literally you can sneeze and then you're not moving for two weeks. 00:02:05 Speaker 4: We cannot point one specific incident, so I think it's more of just getting old. They didn't have neither neither side had much to contribute to what actually caused it. He just said, it's part of I turned forty last year. It's just part of getting into my forties. 00:02:17 Speaker 1: When I when I went to the doctor with mine you know, they did all these scans, and I was expecting to hear like, oh, there's a swelling of your A six and urber, he just said, we see no structural damage. We see inflamed nerves in part because of a of a what did they say, a spine that has been reduced by old age. 00:02:42 Speaker 3: And I was like, first of all, I don't like that diagnosis. 00:02:46 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to be angry when you like I don't think you have to demean me as you're giving me that diagnosis old age. And secondly, you know, I feel like, with the modern stuff of medicine, can we do something. But I was out for a couple of weeks, and so now you have been too. Yeah, having to do with it too. I guess that's put it the medical way of telling you year old. My guy just straight up say you're getting old. But I'm hoping to get through it and be on the other side tomorrow. As long as I just walk around, I'm fine doing the rest. It's just a matter of literally standing up and moving that has been an issue. He also said to me, I said, can you would help if I did yoga and backstretching, And he was like, in your case, maybe just you know, like you may be so far gone that there's really nothing we could do. But well, I'm glad you're here, and we do have a lot of injuries to talk about. I mean, I guess probably still the biggest story in the NFL, as Patrick Mahomes going down he had ACL surgery. I think we've hit a very important point in the history of the NFL. It used to be when every athlete tore their ACL, they flew to Birmingham and doctor James Andrews, who is the only doctor whose name I know outside of the ones I go to, he would do the surgery. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: Now I saw Mahomes went to doubtless and went to somebody else. 00:04:07 Speaker 1: Is doctor James Andrews's now been surpassed and is he no longer the go to doctor? 00:04:14 Speaker 4: Oh wow, I didn't realize this twist in the In the Mahomes injury, it does say a little bit about doctor Andrews been on the hot seat because. 00:04:21 Speaker 3: Forever you see a guy go down and you just know they're taking a straight to doctor Andrews. It's the only reason anybody ever went to Birmingham. 00:04:29 Speaker 1: And I have wondered for years how did that guy end up at Birmingham? Has he ever considered moving, Has he ever thought that there might be a better place for him? But no, he's been surpassed, kind of like Mahomes himself not had the greatest year ever, and so now he's been this guy in Dallas did the surgery. Apparently it was only in acl A lot of the other ligaments were okay, So they expected me back at the start of the year. 00:04:56 Speaker 4: On Doctor Andrews, you're reminding me they'd go to Birmingham. It says a lot about him that he could go to New York, LA, these big market cities where they'd be easier to access. No, he's like, I'm good enough, y'all. Just come on down to Birmingham. 00:05:07 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to fly in the Birmingham Regional Airport. 00:05:11 Speaker 3: You know you're gonna. 00:05:13 Speaker 1: I remember when the w W when I back in the nineties, the WWF now WWE, they would do segments with Doctor Andrews and show him doing the surgery on the wrestlers, and I was like, maybe I don't want to be stone cold, Maybe I want to be doctor Andrews. 00:05:33 Speaker 3: For as a as an adult. 00:05:35 Speaker 4: Did you have was that a path you considered the medical career. You know, you've been took some breaks to get in law school. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: I don't like blood, so that's I think that's part of it. 00:05:46 Speaker 1: And then, uh, this is going to sound like a brag, but it's just a fact. The only B I ever got in high school, college or law school was in my first semester of chemistry at Transy, and I got to be plus. And I've basically revolted against science since then because I would are it's faulty if it thought that I deserve to be plus. 00:06:10 Speaker 3: This is like one of your im smarter than Internet moments. Science. 00:06:15 Speaker 1: I was like, chemistry does not recognize my talents. And basically whether I'd have been a good doctor or not is up for grabs. But you can think doctor whatever his name was, that gave me a B plus when I was a freshman. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: Well, we're all glad. 00:06:30 Speaker 4: I'll speak for Billy too, We're all glad it didn't turn out to your medical career because this is a lot more fun. 00:06:34 Speaker 3: It is a lot more fun. 00:06:35 Speaker 1: Well do you expect when he comes back that Mahomes rekindles a second run. 00:06:42 Speaker 3: Andy Reid says he's not going anywhere. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: There's people who think he wants to stay to pass Don Shula's win record. Do you think that there is a second act in the Mahomes store. 00:06:53 Speaker 4: I do think there's a second act, But I think the Chiefs will look a lot different. You know, I don't expects Kelsey will be back for years. I think they've just built that team just considering, oh we have Pat Mahomes. He can do magic when we get down Layton games. So it might change up the Chiefs overall plan and how we can just lean on Superman. But I still think that, you know, depending how that offense looks, you're next year on down the road how well it can be. But I think my Home still has a lot of lead football in him. It's still like you're gonna keep calling Pad like he'd have Homes and you're just gonna keep calling Pat. That's totally fine to me. I think they will have a transition. 00:07:29 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess in some ways this was a transition year, but I think they have another one next year. I think they're gonna have to build, probably through the draft. A lot of it will depend on what Chris Jones does. I think if he comes back. You know, that's still that's a huge part of your cap. I think you probably have a year where you ease into the next generation and then you try to kind of restart it. The thing is, with the NFL this season and how it's been so open, I don't think you go into next year thinking any of these teams are like impossible to catch, you know what I mean? I mean, like, are you gonna sit at home and go, well, the Jaguars are the one seed. We could never be as good as the Jaguars. So I think for all these teams, their timeline moves fast or based on how open the NFL has been this year. 00:08:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean still see how it plays out with the super Bowl. But where we are right now, it's crazy how the league is upside down for what we thought it'd be, and how teams just took advantage of the opportunity, like the Jags or Broncos, who we still are true believers in boone. 00:08:28 Speaker 1: Now they won me over last week, Like I'm I'm gonna have to act like bo Nicks is not my you know cousin that's always in trouble that you wish would get a job, Like I'm I'm gonna have to act like he's a real quarterback. And part of it is because all these elite quarterbacks, I mean, dr think about it. If we started the year and I said to you, okay, who are the best quarterbacks, you would have said, Mahomes not making the playoffs. 00:08:58 Speaker 3: You would have said, look, Josh. 00:09:00 Speaker 1: Allen, who will Lamar Jackson, who has it doesn't even look like the same player. Joe Burrow who seems to be having an existential philosophical crisis in his life. Jalen hurts, Uh, they're gonna make it maybe, but they're not playing great. Jane Daniels not gonna make it like I do. Think this that bow Knicks, you have to now say, moves into the conversation of a guy who could win a Super Bowl and he's on a rookie contract, which is I've talked about many times. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: I think is huge. Yeah, I didn't. 00:09:32 Speaker 4: I don't know their preseason ratings. But bow Knicks, Drake May, I mean, even your guy Caleb Wilson. There's been some guys that are playing way Wilson. Sorry, I was just watching his highlights. 00:09:44 Speaker 1: To my quarterback, you don't call Patrick Mahomes Jim. 00:09:48 Speaker 3: You do call him pat, but you get his name right, show Caleb Williams respect. 00:09:52 Speaker 4: I even include Caleb Williams in that category even though he's a number one pick. We have a lot of point guard quarterbacks that have Why am I thinking basketball so much? Remember I just said to you, show some respect on his name. So just answer as from there? You went out for a minute. You got you you. 00:10:09 Speaker 1: I mean, did it include the Caleb Wilson part. It included all of it. I just said, show respect on Caleb Williams name. And then now you respond, okay. 00:10:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, so even with your boy Kayleb Williams playing above expectations. 00:10:23 Speaker 1: You're going back to You're going back to what you said before, like we've had. The only thing I lost is when I said show respect on Like we went through the whole thing. 00:10:30 Speaker 3: Where you got the name wrong and all. 00:10:32 Speaker 1: That, and then I was like, so show Caleb Williams respect, babe. 00:10:38 Speaker 3: All right, now I'm confused. I thought I would. Is it not where I just said Caleb Wilson? Do I know? Need to correct? We kept going. 00:10:43 Speaker 1: We kept going for a minute, and then I said, okay, you wouldn't calling Jim Mahomes, show respect on his name, babe. 00:10:52 Speaker 4: All the quarterbacks at the top of the list right now, even guys that I thought were past their prime. Dak Prescott, the way he's been playing, Matt Stafford. I mean, those are names. We clearly know those are MVPs. But just the what we thought we'd see this year, just the Mahomes, Alan, the usuals. Some guys have stepped in and taken that spot this year very unexpectedly. 00:11:11 Speaker 1: Well, I hope he gets healthy. The league is better with Patrick Mahomes. I still think that Patrick Mahomes. The NFL needs Patrick Mahomes, but they're not going to have him very long, at least for the rest of the year now. Monday Night Football was two nights ago. The Steelers beat the Dolphins. You know, the Steelers you can talk about they still now lead the division. I actually don't think that's as interesting as on the losing team. 00:11:38 Speaker 3: Two things one two. 00:11:40 Speaker 1: After the game has he meets a player on the other side and they basically have their own podcast. They talked for a long time. He's laughing, He's like, hey man, what's up. And I'm just re enacting how I think the conversation went he was like, yo, I don't know what he said, but the point is that they looked very chummy, right, and people were angry, saying, you just got beat You shouldn't be so happy to the game. 00:12:07 Speaker 3: What do you think about that. 00:12:09 Speaker 4: I've mostly seen the reaction to it that's all been pretty negative. I guess it's a bad look. And I've even seen other people on podcasts and shows say that quarterbacks do this, but they'll go hide in the tunnel when they know it's a bad loss. So yeah, overall, it's not a good look. Is his teammates have been upset about it. 00:12:24 Speaker 3: It's it's not as it's coming out in their interviews. 00:12:28 Speaker 4: It seems like it's not the usual let's just trade jerseys and get out of here. I mean, they were really paling it up over there, and he's laughing, and you know, they've been a hot team that still had maybe playoff potential, very unlikely, but that completely eliminated them. And he's over there going over the top with being friendly. That's competitive with the guy he just played against. 00:12:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:12:46 Speaker 1: See, I didn't know about his teammates because I feel like I do sometimes take. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: Cues from the teammates. 00:12:51 Speaker 1: So, I mean, all these guys after games pal around a little bit, so they kind of know what the lineing is. 00:12:58 Speaker 3: And if his. 00:12:59 Speaker 1: Teammates are mad, that means they kind of don't think he's serious. 00:13:02 Speaker 3: Anyway. 00:13:02 Speaker 1: Now he got binged, not necessarily because specifically of that, but just because they wanted to play someone else quinn Ewers is going to play, which even though he only played in college last Year's a name I had forgotten. I think we mentioned him a few times at the. 00:13:17 Speaker 3: Start of the season and I still had already forgotten him. I don't so much care. 00:13:21 Speaker 1: I guess part of it is all these dudes this year who played like third, fourth, fifth round have been playing, so maybe they want to see if quinn Ewers can do it. But if you're TUA and you're getting bitch for quinn Ewers, isn't there a part where you start to wonder, like, is the tu a time over in Miami? 00:13:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, he got Russell Wilson. He went from first to third. They even put Zach Wilson at too. They oh, they took him to third, so they did. They got the rustle Jack Wilson siding. Again, we actually live in a world where we were one injury away from Zach Wilson playing quarterback in the NFL again. But the same thing that happened to Russell, except two is on a different circumstance. That was kind of a one year off Russell deal. I mean, they owe to a lot of money next year, and I mean, you're gonna pay him that to be your third string quarterback or however that'll play out. But they did move him not just one spot back too, which sent a message. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: Well, Russell Wilson. 00:14:13 Speaker 1: Those kind of like Tua in the sense that his teammates didn't seem to like him either. I mean, I wonder, I don't know, like I felt like Tua always seemed so likable until a year ago. And I mean, with all the injuries everybody's been I think. 00:14:31 Speaker 3: Rooted for him. I've rooted for him. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: I don't even know the guy, and now it just feels like the whole thing is completely different. If you lost a game, though, Let's say you played for Pittsburgh and I played for Miami and I hadn't seen you in a while, what is okay for us to do like I can't come up and like, you know, pinch your tubby clearly, So like, what is it that's okay for me to do? 00:14:57 Speaker 4: I think most of it you do before you even played the game. I either see in warm ups, we talk. He might even go to dinner night before after the game. You got to keep it pretty brief, especially if. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: You're on the losing end. You want to eat. 00:15:07 Speaker 4: Hey, you should feel it, especially as a quarterback, and you should be showing that as a leader. But also you just don't want it to look different than it really is, and people play it up that you're over there just chumming it up, even if it is just a quick hello. So I would try to be in and out. I would meet you for dinner the night before. I'd treat your hat before z that but good, but probably yeah after, especially on the losing end, get out of there and get back to your life. 00:15:27 Speaker 1: We want we want our players to seem sad, even if they're not. 00:15:31 Speaker 3: We want you to seem sad. 00:15:32 Speaker 1: Billy, what do you think about the screen of hair that's hanging out from drew side there? That like it has its own Yeah, like it has its own like little life there on the I guess. 00:15:43 Speaker 3: That's your side, got Right's awesome though. I like it, this long foot, good flow to be able to have his head. I'm jealous one had his own mind over there. No, it looks good, drew it together. 00:15:55 Speaker 5: I did want to say on to it quickly though, guys that he just signed a four year, two hundred and twelve million dollar exempt extension last year and now he's third string behind Zach Wilson. 00:16:03 Speaker 1: That's going to I mean, they're going to take a huge cap hit, just like Denver did for Russell Wilson. And I don't think there's really anything I know, how you bring him back. If you get bench second string for Zach Wilson, I think you're just you're gonna have to say that's probably it, which is amazing because again, there was a time three years ago where he was mentioned as maybe one of the five best quarterbacks in the league and now not even going to. 00:16:25 Speaker 3: Be playing for his team. 00:16:27 Speaker 4: All right, So did you see Tyreek Hills Instagram where he did the peace out today where he replied I couldn't tell if it was negative for Tua or positive for Tua, but right after the news came out, he just did that peace sun meme. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Almost I don't know if he was like to. 00:16:40 Speaker 4: Get out of here, Tua, or maybe I'm getting out here because I'm mad you bitched, Tua. 00:16:44 Speaker 1: It is, but it's hard to it's hard to translate Tyreek to regular conversation. I never know, I never know what he means. But he's also I mean, you know, he's been a non factor really except for his first six or eight games in Miami. It's been a year and a half of being disappointed. All right, Billy, what are some other headlines? 00:17:08 Speaker 5: Well? Speaking of Miami, they take on Cincinnati this week, and Cincinnati announced that Joe Burrow is going to start the final three games of the season despite being eliminated from the playoffs. 00:17:17 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't like that decision. 00:17:22 Speaker 1: Normally I would say, play right, that's why you're there, go ahead and play. But with him and his injuries and his injury history and his sort of you know, EMO phase, I feel like he's going in it might be it might be good for him to like sit at home, listen to morrisy and maybe take the rest of this year off. I don't really see the reasoning, do you. No. 00:17:46 Speaker 4: I know he wants to. He has that attitude of I'm having fun playing football. I'm not just going to sit here and watch my teammates. I get that you need to be that way between the ears as a competitor, but man, if you were to get hurt again in these last three games, that would just be unforgivable. On Cincinnati for Lennon play, I completely understand. I want him to sit out. I can't believe they're honestly. 00:18:07 Speaker 1: Coming off one of his worst performances of his career, right shut out. I mean, they got shut out, and it wasn't just that they got shut out. 00:18:17 Speaker 3: He was bad, like he legitimately was bad him. 00:18:20 Speaker 1: It wasn't just the offensive line, it wasn't receivers dropping passes. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: He was bad. And I would look at that and say, especially on the heels of those interviews. 00:18:31 Speaker 1: He did last week, this just maybe a guy that we need to just let sit and bring back because he's clearly one of the best talents in the league and it's not happening right now. So I'm surprised they're playing him. I would not if I were the Bengals. But you know, as long as he doesn't get hurt, I guess it'll be fine. But if he gets hurt. If he gets hurt, it might be a clean sweep of everyone in Cincinnati. That might happen anyway. But if he gets hurt, then I think it definitely will. 00:19:00 Speaker 4: I completely agree, and you know, you never want to see a guy get hurt. But I'm be on Pensinito's watching this because that will just be a horrible look for the Bengals. Off somewhere happened to him with nothing left to play for. 00:19:09 Speaker 3: I love Joe Burrow. I like everything. 00:19:12 Speaker 1: I think he's fun. I think he's made Cincinnati much less of a joke. And I'm very pro Joe Burrow. But you know, sometimes you see a friend and you go, hey, man, you need a couple of weeks off, like you just see. You know, sometimes people will do that. They'll come up to me and they'll go, now, how you feeling And I and even if I don't think anything's wrong, I start to go, well, I thought I was feeling good. 00:19:44 Speaker 3: Your tone makes me think I'm not feeling well. I feel like somebody needs to give a Joe Burrow, well, how you feeling? 00:19:55 Speaker 1: Like? 00:19:55 Speaker 3: He's everything good? You know that? I think he needs one of those. 00:20:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think even if His lineman recognized that too with that press conference Borough did last week. It even brought up Andrew Luck comparisons. Everyone around him is just like, Joe's not having fun right now. I mean, does he need to go to King's Island's not far away? Week week on past the King's Island. He's back probably feeling great. I'm a little cold to go to King's Island right now. 00:20:22 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I can't imagine the Beast Aquarius weather would be Aquarius comfy. 00:20:30 Speaker 4: But uh, but he just needs some Joe time, is the point. Whether that's King's Island or somewhere else. He just needs to He needs to get. 00:20:36 Speaker 3: His shine back. 00:20:37 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not saying I just want him to be happy, because when he's out there playing well, being cocky, the locks are flowing. 00:20:45 Speaker 3: I just think it's a better Uh, it's a better league. What's next? Bill? 00:21:03 Speaker 5: The Beast would not be good under his back right now. Let me tell you you're not das. 00:21:08 Speaker 3: At King's Island. 00:21:09 Speaker 1: For people who don't know, that's a roller coaster, it's all wood I think it's the fastest all wooden roller coaster in the world. Is it the same Beast? I rode thirty years ago? Or have they updated it? 00:21:21 Speaker 5: I think it's the same one they had Son of the Beast, but they shut that down since so Beast still lives on same one. 00:21:28 Speaker 1: Part of me says the technology on roller coasters has not improved as much as it should. I'm not going to go off on a tangent, but when you think about the fact that they built the subway in New York in like nineteen fifteen with the technology that they had at the time, and that like the subway you take now is kind of the same one, You're like, could we not have updated this in one hundred years. 00:21:59 Speaker 6: I kind of feel the same way about the Beast, like that beast has existed for forty years. Is there not a way to I don't know, give me a massage while I take it, or something like, there's got to be a way to make it a little more updated. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: I've been breaking backs for decades and being on wood, you think like termites would get it just where it's I've. 00:22:21 Speaker 1: Wondered about termites since I was a kid. I would look for the turbites before I got home. 00:22:26 Speaker 3: How have they not already eaten the beast and all this time. That thing. 00:22:29 Speaker 4: I don't know why people think wouldn't roller coasters are fun that will break your back? 00:22:33 Speaker 1: It is not well, I hate roller coasters in general, but I just big picture. I feel like America was really way ahead of itself with technology when we were doing subways and the Brooklyn Bridge. 00:22:47 Speaker 3: We haven't put another brook like the same Brooklyn Bridge. Wait, there should be a new one by now. All right, I'm done, Go ahead, all right. 00:22:56 Speaker 5: We're getting closer to the holiday, so that means Saturday football. We've got two games on Saturday this week. The nine to five Eagles take on the four and ten Commanders. By the way, Jane Daniels shut down for the rest of the year, it will be Marcus Mariota. And then it's the Green Bay Packers versus the Chicago Bears in a battle for the NFC North and Caleb Williams looking for a little revenge after losing to the Packers just a couple weeks ago. 00:23:17 Speaker 1: So bad luck for the NFL that the next three marquee weeks they've got the Commanders in big spots. And not only to have the Commanders not in the playoffs, it's a lot of Marcus Mariota. As someone who who got to watch a lot of Marcus Mariota over the years with the Titans, are you excited for I mean, were getting maybe too much Marcus Mariota in prime spots. 00:23:41 Speaker 3: It's already been way too much. 00:23:43 Speaker 4: I mean, there was a moment earlier in the season where I didn't even know he was still in the NFL. Then he popped up when Jaydon and Daniels got hurt. It was cool seeing him fill in for a couple of weeks. But now he's played just as many games as Jadon Daniels. It seems so Yes, it's too much Mariota. And I feel bad that the second year Jade Daniels experiment there, we didn't really we don't get degraded. That was one of our talking points for the year. What will the sophomore season look like? And he's just been so injured. It's been a throwaway season for the Commanders. 00:24:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has. And you know, he was kind of CJ. 00:24:11 Speaker 1: Stroud had a very similar second year, and he's kind of bounced back and had a pretty good third year. Be interesting to see what happens with him. The Eagles played the Commanders two out of the next three weeks. They're gonna lose one of these games. Just wait and see this will happen. This is a very Eagles thing. You look at those and you go, well, they should win both of these. With Marcus Mario, they will find a way to lose one of these two. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: Now the Bears packers that night. 00:24:38 Speaker 1: You know. So two weeks ago we were previewing this when they played in Green Bay, and I said it was one of the biggest games for the Bears in a long time, that they didn't have to win, but that they needed to prove they belonged. And I think they did that right. They came down to the final play right. Two weeks later. Now this game's at home. If you win this game, you have a very good shot of winning the North. If you lose this game, you have a legitimate shot of not making the play. So this is a huge game. I'm not gonna say must win, but if you want to sort of completely move past the last twenty five years of the Bears, like forget how much we've lost. This is a game you win and I think you exercise the demons if you win this one this Saturday night. 00:25:32 Speaker 4: And I'm a neutral party here. I know you get caught up as a fan. I'm feeling good about the Bears finishing strong here. I mean the Packers just like lost Michael Parsons. I honestly think that takes them out of Super Bowl contention and being in that top tier. That defense was playing so well with him getting to the quarterback as you mentioned, they were in it, and just Caleb Williams just lofted that past terrible interception there in the red zone to lose. 00:25:57 Speaker 3: I think they get redemption here. And I know they've been. 00:25:59 Speaker 1: Beating the Packers once out of the last I think fifteen tempts, So there is there is a part you just have to do it. It's like what you and I are ar Kentucky football fan. So they've lost to Florida twenty seven straight years. They had to make it to where that stat didn't get brought up anymore. I think in the NFL equivalent, the Bears need to do this. And then having just played them two weeks ago primetime Saturday night, you know this is being because there's a feast or famine thing. You win this game, you'll probably be the number two seed in the playoffs. You lose this game, you got a real chance to not be in the playoffs. It's a huge, it's huge. 00:26:39 Speaker 4: That's why I think they get them, being right there with that Williams interception that could have that game should have gone overtime in green Bay, they know they can beat them, and since that happened, green Bay's defense has one of the worst injuries any team can have in the league this year. I think they get that one, and then, if I'm not mistaken, you in with Detroit, I think they get both of them, and the Bears take forty. 00:26:58 Speaker 3: Nine ers in between two they go to. I think they win both those division games. Yeah, and that Detroit game. 00:27:06 Speaker 1: If you lose, if Detroit wins their next two and you lose to green Bay in San Francisco, that Detroit game is a win and you're in. Like, whoever wins that game will make the playoffs. So I hope we don't get to that point, and I hope they get it. 00:27:20 Speaker 3: We'll see. I do like that. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: That game is on Saturday night, and I'm already trying to figure out what I'm gonna wear for good luck. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm thinking mesh tank top. 00:27:31 Speaker 4: Okay, is it Bears themed or just a mesh tank top. No, I'm just thinking just in general. 00:27:38 Speaker 5: Day a mesh Yeah, like I feel like. 00:27:40 Speaker 1: It'll be I mean, I'm not going out with that, but I feel like I wear at my house kind of feel frisky and that'll make the Bears play well. 00:27:49 Speaker 3: Billy, do you agree with that? 00:27:51 Speaker 5: I'm all for it. Lucky socks, mesh tank tops, whatever you need to do to get the team over the top. I mean, you got to be that fan. 00:27:57 Speaker 1: I don't have one, though, so if anybody knows where you can buy one. 00:28:02 Speaker 3: If you get one and they win, you have to start wearing it every game. 00:28:05 Speaker 5: You have a cowboy hat? 00:28:07 Speaker 3: Oh you're going to go match? Take top and cowboy hat? Oh? What do you say to the door? Pizza got the door? When you open the door wearing that? How the cowboy? That what you're saying? 00:28:18 Speaker 4: Do you have any I know you have a hoodie for every team, but do you have any superstitions when you're watching the Bears. 00:28:24 Speaker 3: We know I'm in Kentucky fans, you know you're getting a shower. 00:28:26 Speaker 1: I've started wearing Bears paraphernalia during the games. I don't know why we do that when we don't go out, like why would you wear a Bear's shirt in your house? Watching the Bears? But it makes me feel good. I mean, I'm going to be very nervous Saturday night. I don't hate the Packers like other Bears fans do, but I want to see them make the playoffs because I may go to the playoff game if they make it, depending on where it is, and I'd like to see him make it. 00:28:52 Speaker 3: What's next? Bill? 00:28:53 Speaker 5: The Broncos have a big opportunity this week. They take on the ten and four Jacksonville Jaguars, but Denver can clinch the first round by with a win, a Chargers loss, a Patriots loss, and a Buffalo loss. But a stat to think about, and that's. 00:29:07 Speaker 1: Too many things. I don't like when people say four things to me. I shouldn't hear how many things there are unless there are three or less things true when we start getting to I mean, you said the Patriots lost, Chargers lost, in Buffalo lost. Those are like the three best teams, so yeah, if they all lost. 00:29:25 Speaker 3: That would make sense. But what are the chances of that? 00:29:29 Speaker 5: Who knows? I mean any given Sunday. 00:29:33 Speaker 3: Any given Sunday, But That's something to. 00:29:35 Speaker 5: Think about though, is that this will be the first postseason without either Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes since nineteen ninety eight. 00:29:45 Speaker 1: Wow, that's an amazing stat So that's twenty eight years without one of those three people being being in the in the postseason. 00:29:56 Speaker 5: Almost my entire life. 00:29:59 Speaker 3: As you say, ability, do you even remember football before that string of court it's listened? 00:30:03 Speaker 5: No, not really? I mean Peyton thrown interceptions is rooky year on the Colts was you know, you wort. 00:30:10 Speaker 1: Of look at football as eras, right, So if you just go through my lifetime, I think of like my football life begins with the eighty five Bears, and then it is forty nine ers into the early nineties Cowboys, right into an area in the late nineties where it kind of gets muddy, and then it's basically Brady and Manning into mahomees. And so in some ways this is Drew Like, if I sort of look at football as these, is this like five or six eras of my lifetime? It is weird to have one where it's now completely different. 00:30:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to sell the Brady to Mahomes transition right from front of us. We knew this was coming, so from Mahomes to finally be out, it is crazy to close the book like that. But who's the next? What's the next in line for my Homes? Well, I mean this is I think a Josh Allen here. We'll have to see as far as though, I. 00:31:12 Speaker 3: Mean as calm like in an era though. 00:31:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll see what it ends up being the Broncos Jaguars. Who would have ever imagined that you would get Week sixteen and that game would be one that is so important? Is the game in Jacksonville or Denver? 00:31:28 Speaker 5: It is in drum roll, please Denver. 00:31:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Broncos again. I'm gonna I mean, I'm. 00:31:37 Speaker 5: Sort of believing in bo Nicks, which I don't want to do, but I think I have to. 00:31:43 Speaker 1: Although, by the way, Calor Lawrence has looked great these last few weeks, I don't think. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: I don't think you can act like he has. 00:31:49 Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, if this we're in Jacksonville, I might take the Jags because I'm believing in them too. It's amazing just looking at the playoff picture. I mean, we've been talking about Denver being one for a few weeks now, But now you have Jacksonville at three, and it's just two scenarios we never thought would be possible, and we're looking right at him. And I'll pick Denver because it's in Denver. But I wouldn't write the Jags off. They've gotten not lately, William Cohen. We're just gonna keep moving them off those Coach of the Year rankings each week. 00:32:27 Speaker 3: What's next. 00:32:28 Speaker 5: On the flip side, there are three teams that are two and twelve right now and tied for the first pick in the next NFL draft, the Giants, the Raiders, and the Titans in that order because they are separated by strength of schedule, and if you look at most mock drafts, they have Fernando Mendoza going as the first overall pick, the Heisman Trophy winner from Indiana. 00:32:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean oddly though, Drew, I'm not sure that it matters a lot who like. Normally I would say loops so that you can get the first pick. But the Giants and the Titans do not need a quarterback, and the Raiders do. But I don't think anyone else in the top five or six ducks, so I think they're gonna get the first choice of quarterbacks anyway. 00:33:19 Speaker 3: So, and none of the quarterbacks I think are a slam dunk. 00:33:23 Speaker 1: So I think for all these teams, the sort of incentive to tank may not exist, and it actually may be what you kind of want, which is people playing with the goal of winning the game. 00:33:34 Speaker 3: Do you agree with that? 00:33:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely not the quarterback classes that we've seen recently. And who knows if Mendozo pan out. 00:33:41 Speaker 3: He's even been. 00:33:41 Speaker 4: Somewhat of surprise in college this year. Selfishly, for my Titans, I want to number one because we're definitely trading it, and I just want to get as much as possible because we have year. Anybody even then trading up. Yeah, I mean you would need a special player at one, and I don't know if this class has one. 00:33:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that anyone's gonna want it. I mean, you look at the teams with really bad records. Okay, so we mentioned those, the Titans and the Giants do not. Do the Jets need a quarter back? 00:34:08 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:34:09 Speaker 1: I guess so. I mean you there's somebody you would have. The Commanders have four wins, they do not need a quarterback. The Saints, I think they're gonna end up rolling with Tyler Shutt now. I mean he's been playing really well, Drew when you just kind of roll with him. 00:34:23 Speaker 4: I think so with this QB class, just because the Ingles Ingles have four wins, they don't need a quarterback. 00:34:30 Speaker 5: What did you say or did you say the Browns yet? 00:34:34 Speaker 1: I did not say the Browns. They have three wins, so the Browns probably do. So I guess you're sitting there and if you're the Raiders, as long as you stay ahead of the Browns and the Jets. But I don't know if there's anybody that would make one of those teams trade up. 00:34:45 Speaker 3: The Browns have already traded up a couple of times, so I don't know. 00:34:50 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's not quite the prize it was before. And even at the position players, I don't think there's anybody that's like, well, they're definitively the number one pick. 00:35:01 Speaker 3: No. 00:35:01 Speaker 4: Titans are looking at a linebacker from Ohio State. But I don't know how people would try. I can't remember that that's the guy though that most people think is the best. Yeah, even the Oregon quarterbacks up there in the top ten. Maybe maybe you get into the marketing and the combine and the buzz and the talking, and someone would bite and trade up for one of those guys. But I still wanted Titans to have number one back to back years, just just kind of like a trophy to have that you sucked the most. 00:35:24 Speaker 3: You want them to. 00:35:25 Speaker 1: Continue to have the highest pick and do nothing with it. Fair enough, if you're gonna be bad, like be the worst, you know what's being twenty ninth in one of these teams that we mentioned. This always happens, though. They'll pull a big upset in the last week or two one of those teams, and you don't really know because you don't know who still cares. But inevitably, in that last week or two, there's some three four win team that wins a big game and screws up the playoffs seed. It happens every single year. 00:35:54 Speaker 4: It won't screw up the playoffs. But I'm watching my Titans to knock off the Chiefs this week. The Titans have been getting better and better, and they're going to Gardner Minshew and have nothing to play for you. 00:36:03 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a sneaky game. That's a sneaky upset for me, But. 00:36:06 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a crazy upset like a Moore trying to I'm looking here trying to think of an example. I mean, probably is all these like the Ravens, Well they're seven and seven. I don't know that there is a perfect one for this year. The Commanders beating the Eagles would be an example of that, though, right that would be a game where and I think they I think they got a really good shot at doing it. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: What's the Commander's lyn I think I'm betting. 00:36:31 Speaker 5: Let's see, the Commanders this week are six and a half point dogs at home. 00:36:38 Speaker 3: That's low. 00:36:38 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be more than one possession. Well, if that gets to seven and a half, I'm betting the Commanders to cover that spread. 00:36:48 Speaker 5: What's next, We've got two more notes until we get to our victory bundle and our picks. We have a big one on Monday night. It's the forty nine Ers versus the Colts in Indianapolis, where head coach Shane Steiken announced that Philip Rivers will be starting the game. 00:37:05 Speaker 1: So for Philip Rivers, I don't know about poor, but he has to start with the Seattle defense and then he's gonna be on Monday Night Football with Peyton and Eli critiquing his old man moves. 00:37:18 Speaker 3: There's a great story. 00:37:19 Speaker 1: Week one played decently well, I think, better than most people would have thought. 00:37:27 Speaker 3: But now people have. 00:37:29 Speaker 1: A week of film on him. He's playing another good defense. He cannot move side to side, Like he cannot move side to side. I kind of feel like he's going to look awful Saturday Monday Night. What about you, well. 00:37:48 Speaker 4: I think just coming back into shape. He was in and playing it all last week. He's probably walking around like I'm walking around my house just holding my back up and leaning on walls as best I can. As fun as it was, and I'm excited to watch Monday Night. I think we're headed for a big comedown moment playing the forty nine ers. And even if they stick with him the rest of the year, I think they have of Texans next. They have like an insane run of defenses. 00:38:09 Speaker 1: They have like the artist run imaginable finishing here, like he couldn't have gotten a worst draw. I think if they lose this game, they might just say don't worry about it anymore, because then they're not really in the playoff hunt. With that said, If they win, they remain in the playoff hunt, and that game against the Texans could be. 00:38:29 Speaker 3: For the division. 00:38:31 Speaker 1: So I mean like there's still something there if he can go and grab it. 00:38:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, they finished with Jags and Texans, so if they were to win, they could really rock the AFC South as it stands now, hurt both of those teams. But you mentioned the Manning cast. That'll be fun just because he played directly against those guys. They know how long they've been out of the league. They're gonna be probably just as mesmerized the fans at home watching Philip Rivers out there throwing it around. 00:38:54 Speaker 3: I love the. 00:38:54 Speaker 1: Story when he has time in the pocket and he can still put some zip on it. I still don't know if he can throw the deep pass. He only really threw two. One of them was intercepted, but that was the last play he was trying to going for something. 00:39:06 Speaker 7: So we'll see what ends up happening this week. 00:39:23 Speaker 3: What's next. 00:39:24 Speaker 5: Finally, congratulations to Sean McVay and his wife. They welcomed their second child a day after clinching a playoff berth with the Rams. Christian Alexander McVeigh is healthy and ready to go and during his press conference, he said, what a crazy week to be playing on a Thursday. It's the Rams at Seattle on Thursday night. He says he hasn't got a ton of sleep. Is this a motivation game or reason why to bet Seattle because Sean McVay hasn't been able to sleep or think about football. 00:39:52 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm surprised you are now including baby announcements in the in the news. I will tell you a story since you're doing this that my mom we were watching one of the games on Sunday, and I want to say, maybe it was TJ. Watt was saying this about someone. I'm not sure which player it was, and he said somebody made a sack. So it was a defensive lineman. And he said something like he's a new dad, and everybody knows new dads play great football. And my mom, who had been very quiet for most of the day, goes, what does that mean? And I was like, I don't know. She was like, new dads play great football. I'll tell you this, if a new dad plays great football, that means he's not doing his dad responsibilities. She was like outraged. She talked about it for like ten minutes. She was infuriated. So if Sean mcvay's not getting sleep, then that means maybe he's being a good dad. 00:41:01 Speaker 3: But Drew, it might hurt the football. 00:41:03 Speaker 1: Team because he's dad that are doing their responsibility may not play great football. 00:41:09 Speaker 3: They call it dad's strength. I believe in it. You know, players step up. 00:41:13 Speaker 4: It's because they know they have someone to provide for and they have to keep getting that check. 00:41:17 Speaker 3: They're playing real. 00:41:18 Speaker 1: Saying that people say new dads play great football. 00:41:21 Speaker 3: I've never heard this before. 00:41:23 Speaker 4: Uh, there have been players at the collegiate UK in the past that I've had kids. You know, it's kind of rare in college we've said they had dad strength. At the NFL, though, you know most of them are fathers, so it would be hard to point out billion new dads play great. 00:41:37 Speaker 5: I have heard the sentiment before, but I'm completely with your mom, Like, if you're doing it right, you're distracted. It's not going to be a normal game week plus a short week Thursday night football. I think I'm hammering Seattle. 00:41:48 Speaker 3: JFK. 00:41:49 Speaker 1: What said, show me a good golfer, and I'll show you a man that's neglecting something in his life and I always thought that was a great quote. And I ain't give you show me a dad that's one hundred percent for football a few days after he had a kid. Then chances are he tuned out on the on the kid, so it's they's sleeping. 00:42:14 Speaker 3: I think that says a lot about his dad abilities. 00:42:18 Speaker 4: Did he even leave the facility this week or did he FaceTime meet the baby and get right back to work. 00:42:24 Speaker 5: He sounds like. 00:42:26 Speaker 1: They share responsibility and he was changing diapers during the walkthrough, okay, And I think that says That says he is being a good father, uh to his kids. It's now time for the victory Bundle, presented by a liberty mutual. We pick three games that we like and then you can bundle them up and uh and win and it'll be a beautiful thing. 00:42:52 Speaker 3: What you said the Broncos were a three point favorite to the Jaguars. 00:42:56 Speaker 5: Is that Ryan Denver is, let's see on this one. Yeah it is, yes, Uh. 00:43:03 Speaker 3: I am going to go with the Broncos. 00:43:06 Speaker 1: The Jaguars have feasted in recent weeks on a below average schedule, Jacksonville is below sea level. Denver is, Actually I don't know, is that true? 00:43:19 Speaker 5: Or did I just make that up, probably a little of up. 00:43:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think it's both a little true and I made it up, well a little. 00:43:29 Speaker 1: It's not as high above sea level as Denver is, So I'm going to say that Denver handles the elements and I'm going to take the Broncos to do the three. 00:43:40 Speaker 3: So they are one of myne for the bundle, Drew, what about you? 00:43:44 Speaker 4: Before I give them? I have to ask Billy a question. Yeah, how bad are the Buccaneers because I didn't expect them to be a field goal favorite at Carolina? Yeah, on the road, I mean they've lost to the Saints. How many a row have you lost? 00:43:55 Speaker 5: It's like six of eight or five of seven. I would I would stay away from the Bucks, especially on the road. 00:44:02 Speaker 4: All Right, I got I'm going with Carolina getting points. 00:44:04 Speaker 5: That's fine. 00:44:05 Speaker 1: At three, you're going with Carolina getting points at home? 00:44:09 Speaker 3: Interesting? See, I was going to take the Bucks there. That's what I want to ask. 00:44:13 Speaker 5: You don't want to be on that side of history, right? 00:44:15 Speaker 4: They seem they do seem really bad lately. I was surprised to see that they're the favorite. 00:44:20 Speaker 3: Nice, you're gonna go Carolina. 00:44:21 Speaker 1: So we have Carolina in Denver, Billy, I'll let you pick one as well. 00:44:26 Speaker 5: Okay, I think Atlanta is terrible and they are our favorite on the road in Arizona. So I'm going to take you. 00:44:33 Speaker 3: You're feeling a little hot Jacoby Brissett. 00:44:35 Speaker 5: I mean he'll throw it fifty six times, he'll complete forty two of them, and they're going to get a win. Give me Arizona as a home underdog here, Yeah, Billy going home dogs. 00:44:48 Speaker 1: Bob Billy is with the hot Jacoby Brissette action is going to take the Cardinals. So a Cardinals, Broncos, Panthers victory bundle. I don't know if Liberty Mutual when they were doing this, was like, we want to have those three. But that's your victory bundle, presented by Liberty Mutual. Start your quote at Libertymutual dot com. So I think you mentioned the big game this weekend. You got the forty nine ers Colts. Do you give the Ravens any chance on Sunday Night against the Patriots? 00:45:23 Speaker 4: No, not at all, not even a little bit. I think the Patriots are just looking too good right now. They'll get that done being in prime time, and they'll be ready to go for the playoffs. 00:45:31 Speaker 1: Steelers Lions an elimination game for the Lions. They lose this game, playoffs are basically done for them. 00:45:40 Speaker 3: What's gonna happen? They have to win. They're at home. 00:45:44 Speaker 4: I know the Steelers looked improved a week ago, playing good football now, but the Lions have to win this to stay in the hunt. 00:45:51 Speaker 3: You didn't give a number, but I'll say they win and anything. 00:45:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Lions big in this game. By the way, I like them big. I think the Steelers have been feast or famine. They don't have to have this game. They still have Thevens coming up in the game that will decide the division. It's it's act. They're not gonna make it as a wild card, so it's kind of a I don't say it's a free game, but it doesn't really matter for them a ton. 00:46:19 Speaker 3: So I mean, I think the Lions. What I don't know what the spread is. I'm gonna guess is at what Lions seven seven seven? I was gonna say four or four. 00:46:27 Speaker 5: And a half minus seven. 00:46:30 Speaker 3: WHOA, that is high. 00:46:32 Speaker 1: But I mean maybe that's because Vegas and the betters think what I do, which is there's not a huge incentive for the Steelers in this game, So I do like the Lions to win. Seven feels like a lot of points. Jared Golf played really well last week and I lost too. I mean they look good, just didn't get a win. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: Are you wanting to pull the trigger on your Titans beating the Chiefs? How are they getting beating them? 00:46:55 Speaker 5: Uh? 00:46:56 Speaker 3: What's the spread? 00:46:57 Speaker 5: It is three and a half. 00:47:00 Speaker 4: I like them covering the three and a half. Yeah, I'll say they beat them. Titans haven't quit. They've actually played much better since they've gone to the interim coach. Some rookies have stepped up, some guys have gotten healthy. They're still one of the worst teams in the league, but they're not as embarrassing as they were in the first half of the season. 00:47:16 Speaker 3: By the way, you know, I'm flying to New Orleans. 00:47:19 Speaker 1: I'm actually flying Monday morning and Monday night the New Orleans Pelicans play the Dallas Mavericks, and I'm contemplating going. Did you know you can get a sweet a full suite for Pelicans Mavericks, which includes twelve tickets to the game for seven hundred dollars. 00:47:44 Speaker 5: Are you affordable? 00:47:44 Speaker 3: So cheap? It's so cheap. I won't you even think about that for a minute. A sweet? So I'm contemplating getting the sweet and just taking. 00:47:54 Speaker 8: More eating all the chicken tenders. Yeah, just spread out, you know. But I've never seen anything like that in my life. 00:48:04 Speaker 1: That's I mean, can you imagine being a Pelicans ticket uh sales rep? 00:48:11 Speaker 4: And they're kind of exciting so far this year. They don't absolutely suck. Dallas is a good visiting team flag Yeah, yeah, you gotta pull the pull the trigger on that. 00:48:21 Speaker 1: The reason I say that is the day before the Saints played the Jets. I think you are a masochist. If you do Saints Jets followed by Pelicans Mavericks, that's gotta be And you could in the New Orleans Bowl the next stay. Like, how many people do you do those three sporting events back to back to back? 00:48:42 Speaker 3: You could be the only one if you go to the Saints game. Ye. 00:48:45 Speaker 4: I don't mean that the Pelicans game is so bad because everyone's going to the Saints game that doesn't want to do the double hunter. 00:48:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, the day before so you can go Saints Jets, Pelicans, Maps, Western Kentucky Southern Myss. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: Three straight knights. Wow. I think you should pull off all Your wife would divorce you if you did. If you did all three of those back to back. 00:49:07 Speaker 1: All right, So now it is time for our survivor league, Drew and our out. Billy remains in somehow, but I think it's gonna be gone now, Billy. What they do now on these things is they start breaking them into segments. I'm not gonna make you pick one of the two games of Packers Bears Eagles Commanders to start next week. 00:49:33 Speaker 3: You will have to do that. So what who do you got this week? 00:49:37 Speaker 5: You guys were just talking about it. I'm all in on Tyler Shuck and the New Orleans Saints to beat the Jets at home for me to survive. We're really running out of teams here, so we are risking it with the Saints. But they've played much better the last few weeks. 00:49:51 Speaker 1: That's a dangerous pick. I'm trying to think what your other options would even be. 00:49:55 Speaker 3: The other one I had circle Texans. 00:49:57 Speaker 5: Have you picked? Yes, I picked the Texans. I have not picked Minnesota. I was contemplating them on the road against the Giant. 00:50:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:50:05 Speaker 3: I wouldn't pick the at especially, And you picked the Bills obviously. 00:50:10 Speaker 5: Right, Yes, pick the Bills. 00:50:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Saints. That's a very risky pick. But I guess if you picked the Broncos. 00:50:21 Speaker 5: I have not picked the Broncos, and that is the other one. 00:50:23 Speaker 3: I think that we're going to beat the Jaguars. What's more likely Broncos beat the Jags or Saints beat the Jets. 00:50:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, and probably the Saints just because we saw Trevor Lawrence go for six touchdowns last week. So I mean, I don't know what. 00:50:38 Speaker 3: You do in that situation. Drew, probably the Saints. But have you have you used the Lions yet? Did you listen them on teams you've used. 00:50:46 Speaker 5: I let me check. 00:50:49 Speaker 3: In the Lions. I like the Lions. They're double the other points. 00:50:54 Speaker 5: I haven't picked Detroit. 00:50:55 Speaker 1: I like the Lions. But you've already picked the Saints. We're not going to talk you out of I think of those three choices, I think I would have gone with the Lions. Okay, now we're going to pick our touchdown. You both got one. I did not last week. So Billy and I are tied at five. Drew has three, is that right? 00:51:14 Speaker 5: That's correct? 00:51:15 Speaker 3: Okay, so he's two behind. Drew went first last week. 00:51:18 Speaker 1: So Billy, you get to go first, pick the position and or pick the player in the position. 00:51:23 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go pass catcher. 00:51:25 Speaker 3: Here. 00:51:25 Speaker 5: Can I pick tight end at my receiver spot? 00:51:28 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:51:28 Speaker 5: You can, okay, because I'm going Trey McBride. I picked Arizona and the victory bundle for livery mutual, and Trey McBride is clearly the best tight end in the league. He's got ten touchdowns and over one thousand receiving yards. Give me a little McBride for my pick. 00:51:42 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:51:45 Speaker 1: Who is the running back for the Texans? Who is starting for them right now? 00:51:50 Speaker 3: Well? 00:51:50 Speaker 5: Nick Chubb just got hurt, and so it was the guy they pulled off up the rookie squad, the former running back from Louisville Jahar Jordan rush for over one hundred yards. 00:51:59 Speaker 3: I got him at a pulse. Let me put it in a different way. 00:52:04 Speaker 1: Whoever is the first player from the Texans to carry the ball on a rush? 00:52:12 Speaker 3: Okay, at a running back? 00:52:13 Speaker 1: Because they play the Raiders, they're gonna score a lot. 00:52:16 Speaker 3: So whoever that is, I get that person? Is that fair? 00:52:22 Speaker 5: Sure? So that's what he marks or dare whatever the other last name is or something a. 00:52:28 Speaker 3: Bunch of names. 00:52:29 Speaker 1: Whoever it is the first person they hand the ball to, not CJ. Strapp, but the first person they hand the ball to, he will then score touchdown. 00:52:38 Speaker 3: So, Billy, you have to see who the first person is to see who it is that I got it. 00:52:45 Speaker 4: I mean, I can just can I just take a receiver room and say you have to take a quarterback now, So you're gonna have to pick a quarterback. 00:52:52 Speaker 3: I feel like you just made up a rule. 00:52:53 Speaker 1: Though. 00:52:54 Speaker 4: We've had to pick running backs that have like Gibbs and Montgomery. When I picked Gibbs, I don't get Montgomery if he carries it first. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: But I don't know these people's names. 00:53:02 Speaker 1: I feel like the fact that I don't know their names gives me leeway. 00:53:06 Speaker 3: So you got the Houston backfield, I get one. 00:53:09 Speaker 1: I get whoever touches the bottom, who takes the first carry? 00:53:14 Speaker 3: I got hit. Okay. 00:53:16 Speaker 4: I've had quarterbacks a lot, so I think I'm out on most of them. Who's a quarterback that runs? 00:53:22 Speaker 5: I think of bon nixt Real. 00:53:24 Speaker 3: I think I think I've used Begtown you could use I mean, have you done May? I haven't done Drake May. 00:53:34 Speaker 1: I think Drake May is probably if you haven't taken him yet, a pretty good pick. 00:53:40 Speaker 3: Philip Rivers. 00:53:42 Speaker 4: I consider doing that, but remember I took Max Brosmer just two weeks ago, so I've been. 00:53:47 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can take that. I don't think Philip Rivers is rushing. 00:53:50 Speaker 5: We give you two. 00:53:52 Speaker 3: I'll go JJ McCarthy for Billy. 00:53:54 Speaker 5: That's such a bad J McCarthy. 00:53:56 Speaker 1: So this is this is the biggest long shot of all in the touchdown parlay, you've got who'd. 00:54:04 Speaker 5: You pick again, Billy McBride, Trey McBride. 00:54:08 Speaker 1: I think DraftKings will let you pick whatever gown Houston gets the ball first. You think I allow that for an official bet, I think so, and I think they do. Or you can just wait till the first play and then you because you can bet those live, or and then JJ McCarthy you would get long odds for that one, Drew. 00:54:28 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I've had a lot to pick a lot of quarterbacks this year, and I've run out all the running ones. 00:54:34 Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you guys very much. I hope everybody enjoys their week. Sunday I will actually be Louisville and then we'll do our Christmas edition, probably with me in New Orleans, which should be very exciting. 00:54:50 Speaker 5: Billy, Oh, absolutely, and might do it live. 00:54:53 Speaker 3: From the Pelicans game. That'd be fun. Let's do it live during the New Orleans Bowl, live from the Pelican. Yeah, we could do it during the New Orleans Bowl. By the way, Southern Miss just sent me their team notes. 00:55:06 Speaker 1: Do you know that Southern Miss has the oldest player in college football? They have a punter that's a freshman and he's thirty. 00:55:14 Speaker 3: You're talking about him a lot. They're gonna they're gonna be on offense. 00:55:19 Speaker 4: No, it'll be first intend for the defense, and you'll be talking about their punter. 00:55:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:55:23 Speaker 1: He's thirty and a freshman, which means he's gonna be thirty four his senior year of college in Hattiesburg. He's from the Australian. Yeah, he's Australian, thirty year old freshman. I'm requested, by the way, we request interviews. He's the only guy with so all right, thank you folks very much. We'll see you on Sunday. NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.