Caitlin Lost a Bet, Now She's a Guest! + How Their Marriage Has Helped Their Lives & The Existence of Aliens and Ghosts + Bobby Does an Honest Q&A

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the podcast. At the end of this we went live on YouTube. We're going to place some of that before my wife came in. But my wife lost a bet to me, and so she hasked to do some podcast episodes, and this will be the first one that you do. And so thank you for paying that your debts to the bet. That's pretty awesome. I don't even know what we bet. It was so long ago. I do not know what we bet.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I don't either.

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Speaker 1: So I have a lot of questions and you can answer them with me. I said, Hey, ask me your questions on Instagram for this podcast. Number one, why do you believe in aliens but not ghosts? Interesting? Okay, I think they could be the same thing. I think aliens and ghosts could actually be the same thing. There's nothing that says they're not. I think the term aliens is a bit weird because when we think aliens, we think little green men. And mostly it's not that I do believe in aliens, it's that I don't not believe in aliens because it is so vast. There is absolutely no way we have even an ounce of understanding of what is beyond what we know, and we know so little. So my point is that how can you say there isn't something when you have no idea what even there is? So, if there are aliens, weird term for it because we associate that with movies Little Green men. To say there's not is meaning that to me means that you don't believe much more than what you can see or than what you've been told is real. So do I believe in aliens? I don't know. No, But do I believe that there's not aliens? No, that's my answer. It's ghosts, could be aliens.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm confused.

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Speaker 3: You do believe there are aliens and you don't believe there a ghosts or you believe there's both, or they're the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for asking it. I believe make it quick. Well that's a problem here. I can't. I can't make it quick. I believe for us to say there's no chance there's aliens would be extremely ill educated based on everything we've learned about what we don't know. We only know. We barely know what's more than our soli system. They're ten billions solar systems. There's so many socialsm we have a number for it. And for us to go we're for sure there are no aliens Like that to me seems crazy now to have ever met alien? What I bet money I'm going to meet an alien? No, I never, I don't think so. Yeah. So I'm not going to argue that there are aliens, But anyone that says they're not, I question their sanity because how can you say there's not something when we have no idea what's beyond what we know? We know very little. Ghosts in the traditional sense, I do not believe in ghosts.

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Speaker 2: Because how does your logic not apply to this as well?

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Speaker 1: But it does, And that's where in the traditional sense, I don't believe. I've in aliens like just being around here a chillin coming buy spaceships that we would be able to see, yeah, because I think they'd be so far advanced. If they didn't want to see them, we would never see them. Same thing with ghosts, like unless a ghost is an alien, because that could be the thing we just assigned them with what we've put into movies as a ghost, like we could see like a little person I'm scary, but that actually could be an alien or somebody from the past or the future. Maybe that's what aliens are, people from the future that all these theories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my beef with aliens is just I think from Hollywood and how they always portray aliens to be so much smarter than.

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Speaker 1: Us, But they would have to be to get here.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, how do you know?

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Speaker 1: Otherwise how would they be doing what we have no capabilities to do because we have no capability to get anywhere like we got.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe they have like a better elon Musk, But I don't think that every single alien you encounter is going to be smarter than every single human on the in it.

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Speaker 1: I could co sign that if it were, some elements of aliens weren't as smart as what we are. But in order for their technology to get them to do things we have no comprehension of how to do. We can't even get a person to the next planet.

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Speaker 2: How do you know?

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Speaker 1: How do I know?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: How do you know?

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Speaker 2: We haven't gotten a person to the next planet.

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Speaker 1: I just read people that I trust the same thing about medicine, I just listen to my doctor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you obviously hidden from us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we've never seen of Mars. We can't sad knowledge, but we can't spend send anybody to the moon again to your knowledge.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying if you say we can't know anything that we don't know, then I think that applies to pretty much everything.

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Speaker 2: So we can wrap this podcast up.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for us. We thank you very much. We love you guys, have a great day. Uh. So I could believe in ghosts if it wasn't a non traditional sense of people saying that I'm in a haunted house with people are murdered and there are people shape can change.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like, that's the version that I struggle with, because again, that's Hollywood. It's the same thing with the aliens. That's Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah, are there things we'll just assign the term ghost to them. Yeah. Probably. I do believe in ghosts, But do I believe it in the traditional sense of like, it's our dead people that used to be on this planet now walking around to like scare us or give us a good old kick in the pants. Probably no, No, probably not. Hey, but if you were to say, don't call it a ghost, call it a multi dimensional being that has an understand I would be like, Okay, now we're talking. Now, I can't prove it's real. But I definitely would not argue against that. My ghost arguments are always when people are like, this hotel's haunted. Yeah, no it's not. Yeah, I've stayed in the hotel seven times.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like our issues are with Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, sounds like our issues are with what our entertainment culture has told us and have shaped our expectations. So yeah, aliens and ghosts, let's go. Let's party. Okay. But just like dogs can see things, we can't again because they have different cones in their eyes, or birds can hear things we can't because I'm sure there are things living around us that we have no idea. We do not have the capability to see field touch understand. I'm sure of it, except I can't.

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Speaker 3: Be sure of I'm feeling deja vous from last night and we had the same exact cors.

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Speaker 1: I love it. We went to went to dinner last night with a couple of friends, Ben Rector, who is a dear friend who's been on this podcast many times. We had not seen each other as our family their family, and went to dinner. And you want to get two nerds going, and you guys were very they are going. You guys are very gracious to even acknowledge that we're not unhealthily obsessed with something that will get us nowhere in life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could get you somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Not us though, because we spent probably forty minutes talking about simulation theory. Yeah, let's story all that, dude. We're then my theories on what happens when you go to sleep and it's all stupid, right.

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Speaker 2: Next question, yes, but yeah, yeah, that's what we did.

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Speaker 1: Okay, next up, when is your committelanspirational show coming to us a streaming platform? So here's where we are on that. I've had some financial offers on it that have been good. I don't think we've e't been talked about this. I've heard murmurs, but it's never gotten to the point where we're close to it. We've had financial offers that have been good. We've had something that's been great, but on platforms that I'm like, nobody even goes there totally. We've had some that have been not that great on platforms where some people go. But the question that my agent just presented me and I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this actually today because we talked about this today because this is a very recent thing. He was like, if you're so obsessed with growing your specific YouTube channel, he said, take ego out of it. But that's a big part of it, right, he said, why don't you just put it on your YouTube channel? And if you're obsessed with growing that, like, nothing grows that more than original content that's good, different and specific. And I think I had a hard time with that, and I think I was a little insulted by it.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are putting their specials on YouTube, Like I heard a Nick Swardson podcast, but.

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Speaker 1: He's a real one. What do you mean, Like Nick Swartson is actually a comic and he's funny.

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Speaker 3: And Okay, well, if he's putting it on YouTube, then why is that insulting to you? If real comics that are good are doing.

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Speaker 1: That, because they're already considered real comics. I think, to me, it's like I can put anything on YouTube, so I'll put this on. I'm just the same person that nobody wanted to put their thing. Like it's an insecurity thing where if like somebody bigger is like, oh we want you on ours, then I feel like, oh I actually did something good. Then the second one, I would have I put it on YouTube. But if I'm like, hey, watch the stage show I did because it's a comedy, but it's also inspirational. It's on a straight ahead comedy special. If it goes straight to YouTube, it's like, well, it looks like nobody wanted.

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Speaker 2: It, But why do you care?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm really insecure.

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Speaker 2: Because you need the validation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And if Amazon, which is somebody that we had been talking with a bit, if they put it on in my unhealthy, wildly insecure, ego driven self, even if nobody watched it, I could be like, yeah, my comedy special on Amazon, and there would be to me, again, very surface. This was very reactionary of me to think and feel this way. To me, that would be better than putting it on YouTube and a million people watch it. But people can watch anything on YouTube. It's anybody can put stuff on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you're so I think it. Take a step back and think about the goal. Is the goal for as many people possible to see it? Or is the goal for you to finally be convinced that you've done something that's worth something.

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Speaker 1: I now question the goal, okay, because I think Initially it was the first one, and the closer I get to we get to actually deciding where it's going to go, I'm feeling more and more like it's the second one, which I would I don't want for myself to feel that second way.

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Speaker 2: And if you do, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: But I think that let's say it does get picked up by Amazon and then they comp our prime membership, that'd be nice. It's just going to be another thing, right Like, it's just going to be the next project, and then you're going to need validation from that. I don't think that that cycle is ever going to end, So I just maybe let's.

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Speaker 1: I've never had any winning Yeah, yeah, it's definitely an inward thing. I also can acknowledge it is. It is a complete insecurity issue. I've not had any success in the comedy space on a national, like mass media level, right, Like shows sell out and they do great, and I sell a whole lot of tickets, but nobody knows that, right, I guess I need people to know that, and so me just going straight to YouTube where it feels like a loss because I can put anything on YouTube. I can just take my shirt off, push record and recreate every Dancing with the Stars dance and that's also on YouTube by myself, and it feels like that a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that, I understand what you're saying. I'm sad that that's how you feel, but I understand what you're saying me too a little bit. Yeah, And this reminds me I don't I don't like podcasting because I feel like there are so many there's just certain things that I don't want to say. But there have been instances in your career over the past several years where there it has been something similar.

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Speaker 2: To this where.

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Speaker 3: If you did this thing to everyone looking at it, watching it, viewing it, they would think it's amazing. But because of some small inside baseball thing you have in your head, it's a failure to you. And I just wish that you could see it from the perspective of, oh, look at all these people that are viewing this art or listening to this art or whatever I did, and they're enjoying it, versus I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just think you're too in it.

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Speaker 3: You're too like in the conversations and negotiations and all this stuff, and I wish you'd just kind of let your agent and your managers handle it. You know too much, You know too many details about what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I think because I had to do it by myself for us such a long time, it's hard for me to let it all go. Yeah, because I had to do at all. I haven't had do it all in a long time. But I don't think that that changes like my desire or my need to know what's going on. So I'm not getting yeah, taken advantage of.

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Speaker 2: It's not good for your mental health.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I also can see where it is not good for my mental health to go because my feelings were hurt whenever he suggested, if you're so dead set on growing your YouTube, which I think is a great thing to do, why don't you just put this there because people will go to it.

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Speaker 3: Right, So, he wasn't saying, hey, you know, we've actually winds out, nobody wants this, let's put it on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: He's like, hey, this is an asset.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely was not, And he had told me two days ago, one day or even yesterday, had had shared with me the financial offers that were semi significant, and some of them were in places where people aren't going to see it, and then some that where the offers were not good, where people would probably at least have the opportunity to get it, and both were like, okay, at least they want it. Then he's like, or you could put it on YouTube, and I like was like, like like hurt a little bit, like it was insulted a little bit, And he wasn't meaning it to be insulting, of course, not if anything. He was like, if you're doing all this to do that, why not put this there yea and continue to build that. And he said, you know other comics, but I'm like, I am not a comic that has the credibility to go. If I'm a least special on YouTube, you should check it out.

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Speaker 3: But right, and I think that that's also an important point, is that you aren't a comic.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I've done a lot of comedy.

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Speaker 2: But but I.

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Speaker 3: Think that you try to be the number one in all these different categories instead of just like being you.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm me in all these categories. I do a whole lot of categories, and I'm like a seven out of ten. I think I'm a seven out of ten and like a lot of things, but I think listen, did I come up in the traditional comedy like some of the people that I know that won through No, not at all. But have I done a lot of stand up shows and a lot of Yeah, I mean I think I'm a I don't even know if I would say comedian. I think I do comedy though.

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Speaker 2: But it's fair to say that you're special.

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Speaker 3: The special, the thing that you've been working on, it's not strictly comedy.

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Speaker 1: No, I would say it's fifty percent comedy.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it feels like your comps are a little off, right, Like you're comparing this thing that you've done to a standard comedy special and saying that it needs to be on the streaming platform because you want it to be comparable to these different specials.

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Speaker 2: But it's not like that. It's different. I think it's it's more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just my irrational brain. My response was, Oh, that hards my feelings because anybody can put anything on YouTube, and that's where you want me to put it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm sorry that hurt your feelings.

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Speaker 1: I it was me hurting my own feelings.

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Speaker 2: Right, but that still sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have to decide what I'm going to do with that because we have to put it out. We shot it a year ago. Yeah, I mean I've got my tooling about the Friends finale. It's that old. Wait a year ago? Really a year and a half ago? Dang? Okay, right, because last November I think was like the end of the tour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right.

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Speaker 1: So, and we've had it done for a while. We just didn't really know what we were going to do with it. Okay, let's see what else.

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Speaker 3: Also, if I'm making no sense, I'm so cold in here. My teeth are chattering, Like I'm I'm that level of cold where you get angry.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? Read? You can fix the air?

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to mess with your thing, But.

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Speaker 1: It's it's over by the golf simulator, Like is he back there behind it? If you want else to check it out? But I wouldn't know where it was. One day I looked around forever for it to could have find it. Yeah, would you mind turning? We keep it cold in here because the equipment of the lights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my brain's not working because I'm just shivering.

00:17:00
Speaker 1: Okay. Question what is your favorite childhood TV show? You want to answer? That one for you before I answer it for me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you probably have a better answer. Off the top of your head.

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Speaker 1: Childhood TV show or all time TV show all time would be The Office be number one. The Walking Dead for like four or five seasons was like the best show ever, big zombie guy, I love it. Find it? What was it on eighty? Ohn' that cold child? Yeah? What is it on? Now? It was on cool Now. I put it on Heat sixty nine. Okay do you think he did that? Yeah? Okay, no, that's it's good. Okay, Okay. Childhood TV show, though I don't razorback sports. I don't think I had a like I loved Friends when then. But I think my favorite all time show is The Office, and some of that was Younger twenty Days. Okay, did you have favorite childhood show?

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Speaker 2: Childhood TV show? I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember a favorite. I mean I watched a lot of like Full House reruns seventh heven.

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Speaker 1: You hit me with the reruns part because I watched a buch of Full House. Yeah, but not the reruns o G. Yeah, seventh Heeven your parents will let you watch seventh teven?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was about Heaven.

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 2: Step by step.

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Speaker 1: No, yes, but reruns, it had to be rerun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. I don't know, I don't know what I watched really.

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Speaker 1: What about music? Uh? Primarily Christian for quite a while? What ages were you only Christian music?

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Speaker 3: When did you get to when my parents could pick the music? It was mostly Christian or sports talk radio sooner sports radio or Oklahoma Base for sure, yeah, for sure. And then country as well, Like once I started to right around my brother, my brother, my older brother, he would listen to country music, so we would listen. I mean I listened to country music, but really it was it was mostly Christian.

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Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back.

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Speaker 1: M m.

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Speaker 5: This is the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: What artists come to mind? Who did you hear the most? Like, give me three? Smell like burning it because turn the heat.

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Speaker 6: On in a while.

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Speaker 3: I mean that bad smells.

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Speaker 1: It smells like bad Totino's pizza. You know how it falls from the crust down on the bottom of the oven. Literally, that's what that shout out Totino's pizza because I love you. But the crust would fall the bottom and then burn if you didn't put it on the or you didn't put it on a tray. That's what that smells like, and you probably wouldn't. I would never put and you would open on my oven and it's all covered in like crust residue because I would never clean it either. So you felt that read you still live the life of a single I mean, like I wouldn't. Nobody lives the life one. That's true.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 7: I mean I would eat like frozen pizzas, and then it got to the point where every frozen pizza tasted burnt because I wouldn't clean the crumbs and it was just mounding up down there.

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Speaker 1: It would take on the generations from the past.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly sweet.

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Speaker 3: Yes, who are the artists you think I would listen to a Christian Christian artist as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Oh? Chris Tomlin. We saw him reading lunch a few weeks ago. He came up and said, Hie, that was awesome.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome, Chris Tomlin, like Point of Grace. No band, it's a band? Three yeah, some girls? Uh avalon Jackie Velsquez.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what about Like, uh is Carmen too old?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know Carmen. Yeah, of course, just between you and me something to say.

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Speaker 1: No and you you also like that? But who is that? That's because Jars of Clay is.

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Speaker 2: Flood right, which is your other song that you go to.

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Speaker 1: Rain, rain on my face, housing, stop raining for days? My world is a flood right right now? That one.

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Speaker 6: I haven't heard that one a long time.

00:21:22
Speaker 1: He knew it? Yeah, just between did you look it up?

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Speaker 2: Did you want me to look it up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Because I know it. I'm having a little brain fog right now, you too. I guess something yours just because it's cold, me because it now it smells like burnt.

00:21:35
Speaker 3: Let's just call this episode brain fog, just between you and me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 3: Oh DC talk, Oh my gosh, yes, of course, d C talk, of course.

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Speaker 1: In DC Talk, Toby Matt Yeah, uh okay, thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. Where music question.

00:22:06
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions, but it's they're coming in. They're coming in so fast. Do you want another one?

00:22:11
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the burning smelter phone.

00:22:16
Speaker 1: You can answer this. When did you and Kaitlyn move to your new house? And did you guys have it built? You can answer how were you like?

00:22:23
Speaker 3: Okay, we moved to our new house about a year and a half ago at this point, and what was the second part?

00:22:31
Speaker 2: Did we have it built?

00:22:33
Speaker 1: The question was, and did you guys have it built?

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Speaker 3: It was about seventy percent of the way done when we purchased it, so we did not have it built. But we came in while it was being built, which I found to be just the best possible scenario because because we still got a new house, but we didn't have to go through the construction part of it. I didn't have to make a lot of decisions and I'm so indecisive, So uh yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty great.

00:23:04
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Okay, how am I supposed to like as a person, Sabrina Carpenter?

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Speaker 3: How are you supposed to like as a person Sabrina Carpenter.

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Speaker 1: Yes, when I was conditioned to not like Sabrina Carpenter early on from Olivia Rodrigo, because if you remember when that song comes out from Olivia Rodrigo and she's like, I'm driving down street familiar, what's.

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Speaker 2: It driver's license?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar, And I'm like, whoever did Olivia Rodrigo wrong? I don't even know who Olvia Rodriguez. Yet I just said this song it turns out of a Sabrina Carpenter. It turns out so they had a beef because she stole his boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Not Steel, not Steel.

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Speaker 3: I think that it was a clean breakup, but then she started dating Olivia Rodrigo's ex boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: But then why was she mad at Sabrina Carpenter If it was a clean breakup.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she was mad at Sabrina Carpenter. In fact, Driver's License wasn't really even about Sabrina Carpenter. There was just one line I think about her being a girl, being blonde and older.

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Speaker 1: That's Sabrina Carpenter.

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Speaker 3: Right, But the song wasn't about Sabrina Carpenter, and it certainly wasn't like mean to her. I think that. Then the fans took that narrative and attacked consider me a fan of Olivia Rodrigo.

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know. She wasn't, But I was like, whoever it is?

00:24:26
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, because I bet you can't name another Olivia Rodrigue.

00:24:29
Speaker 1: You're out of your mind song I can name.

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Speaker 2: I can sing along with like ten sing along maybe, But name a song.

00:24:34
Speaker 1: Drive a License Part two, No learners permit. No, it is such a thing CDL. She has all these songs about things you need to drive certain things. Yeah, Vampire, if you gave my brain fog, I could probably name five. Though, why do we have such brain fog? Molden? We ever think you ever think there's like carbon monoxide in there?

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Speaker 2: I think I have parasite in my brain or something.

00:24:58
Speaker 1: You think you have a parasite all the time. Everything I do have parasites. No, but you're like everything's a parasite, Like if you're obsessed with parasites.

00:25:08
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with getting rid of them.

00:25:11
Speaker 1: But then I would I would leave thank you? What song vampire? Obviously? How does that one go?

00:25:20
Speaker 2: Leave me dry? Like a GD vampire?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good one. You know you know that song read No, that's hardcore though. Oh I can't play it from far so because I can't play it like straight through because we'll go to podcast you I can't put musical podcasts. But this is like, do you know Olivia Rorigo at all? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean I know her new driver's license.

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Speaker 1: I feel like everybody knew that. But yeah, let me see if I can fast forwards. Nothing that's crazy, that's a jam. I'm I'm still team Olivia Rodrigo over Briandy Carpenter. Yeah, I like like Gill, we like both. Let's stop hitting women against She did a song about her, so she made us assign ourselves on a team.

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Speaker 2: No, I think we can be for you something.

00:26:22
Speaker 1: Something something that's a good song. Yeah, Seranny Carpenter has has some really good song.

00:26:30
Speaker 2: Oh she has the best song.

00:26:32
Speaker 1: And I don't really care enough to like to put them against each other. But whenever Sabriena Carpenter started existing and having all these hits, I was like, I'm not supposed to like her because I heard Driver's License.

00:26:40
Speaker 3: You get to be in your bonnet sometimes about artists, and you don't ever want to turn I heard drivers I ever want.

00:26:45
Speaker 1: To do a one eighty? Though I know you like there's some something name another one Landa Delray. Probably you'll say yes, yeah, that's probably true. I have grown to like Landed, not love and only. I probably don't love her because I can't commit to loving her.

00:27:07
Speaker 3: I don't think she's going to release her country album. Why have you seen that trend on TikTok where it's like it would be me and I would be filming you okay, and it's like there's text.

00:27:19
Speaker 1: On the screen, what's around it's yes.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it would say something like I think we should all give our wife foot rubs every night and for thirty minutes, and then the camera flips around and it's you acting like oh crap, and it goes whoops, Yeah, I'm recording myself.

00:27:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:27:31
Speaker 3: Well, she did one and it was something like, uh, what if we all just announced albums and then never released them? And it said something about Lasso, which was going to be her country album, which I think she said was going to be more Americana because that's more her style, and then one other album she was going to do. So I think she's not going to do it anymore.

00:27:49
Speaker 1: Really, what if it's just her saying I know it's taking forever to put it out.

00:27:54
Speaker 3: She's already talked about that a million times. It felt it feels like.

00:27:59
Speaker 2: She's not it.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: It feels more permanent.

00:28:01
Speaker 3: It feels permanent because I heard her in an interview recently saying that she was working on Lasso and it was getting to be too country and not that she didn't like that, but it just didn't feel authentic to her in her style, so she was having to change it. And that's when she said she was going a little bit more Americana.

00:28:16
Speaker 1: So she just married the Gator guy. Now it's the perfect time to the country. Yeah, but that's somebody who I will put up a little pushback on because whoever drives gets to control the music, and I'll be like ah, but then once it's on, I'm like.

00:28:33
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, And that never happens in the reverse.

00:28:36
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not ever in the.

00:28:39
Speaker 3: Car with him when he's driving, read and picking music and I'm like, yeah.

00:28:42
Speaker 1: That's the jam. No, she does, but she does what I do because you want to hear seeing Cranberry's linger.

00:28:48
Speaker 4: Oh, I love the Cranberries, but that's like on a playlist that I would play for playing cards or we're in the car, I would just go nineties alternative and so Cranberry's and she would start to find herself.

00:28:59
Speaker 1: That's the one's song. I like, I just know it's not okay, this is not true. Name another. I will thank you for asking. What was your question? Say? How do y'all choose who gets to do. Is it like if you're in her car, then yeah, driver picks music, yeah, and nobody wants to drive. I don't want to drive, and I don't have this attachment to masculinity of I must drive. I'm the man. Actually I don't ever want to drive.

00:29:22
Speaker 3: Right, He'll go to the garage and sit in the passenger seats and a way.

00:29:28
Speaker 1: Pard car, you're calling passenger. I will go yes, I'll y'all shotgun. And then she'll come out thinking maybe I'm in my car and I'll be passenger in her car, and so we just take our car. But then she gets picked the music. Right, So there is a give and take when we play cards. Whoever wins gets to pick the playlist the next time. And so I will pick nineties or two thousands for the most part, either alternative or singer songwriter because that's my jam. And so I would really notice some love on linger and I can't see it over there, do you have to? I would here to people that hate and you don't hate because you don't have no you have no opinion on Nickelback, But people that hate on Nickelback in general, like I hate Knuckleback. Then all of a sudden there are TGI Fridays and this is how and they're singing along under their breath and they're like, no you you may not love them, but you love that song. And I'm watching you sing along when you think nobody's watching. She does that crap? But who do you in a blowfish? Oh?

00:30:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you like? Who do you in the blowfish?

00:30:25
Speaker 3: I was recently exposed to them, like from you.

00:30:30
Speaker 1: Yes and slack. They got some good stuff. They got some good stuff, and we like Darius that's what.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta support, but you have to support as little endeavors.

00:30:39
Speaker 1: No, like do you you actually started? We'll say not hating because I don't hate Landadel Ray. At first I was a little annoy because's all she wanted to hear. But you don't you liked ish Hoodie before you met Darius?

00:30:53
Speaker 2: Did I?

00:30:54
Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah? Probably, so I would say that that's another one. Mm hm.

00:31:01
Speaker 3: Those are diamonds in the rough though, same with me and your stuff. No, absolutely, not for every every linger. There's like a miss.

00:31:11
Speaker 1: She does not like it's all counting Cross. She doesn't like counting Croast, which is my favorite band man. She does not like counting Cross and that's what she holds against me, because she anytimes she's talking about any of my music, she does the whining voice.

00:31:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all of them.

00:31:28
Speaker 1: It's so bad. It's not all of them, but that's it's very it's a very distinct part of that music.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: Yes, And when I used to listen to Lonzelrey, he would be like, oh, she's so depressing, and then he turns on songs like that.

00:31:43
Speaker 1: That's a great point.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: White guy's whining.

00:31:45
Speaker 1: That's a great point. I do not argue that your point is bad, but I think that, like I think there's some food fighters that you like. You may not have no idea. Okay, there's some goo dolls I think you like.

00:32:01
Speaker 2: I can't imagine there is.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: I okay, how about this one? And I give up more to you.

00:32:09
Speaker 2: Are we going by if I know it or if I like it, that you like.

00:32:14
Speaker 1: It enough to not go like I hate the song?

00:32:20
Speaker 2: Let's play a game?

00:32:23
Speaker 1: How okay? That's fun because the stuff that you like. I can only take so much. Billy Eilish, I'm not a huge fan of the new album.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: This is when our age gap kicks in. It's music.

00:32:35
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I get Billie Eilish, But that doesn't mean I have to like I like Billie Eilish. What I'm freezing? It's sixty nine now, it's so warm in here. Like, like, I understand why people like Billie Eilish. I wish you would be consistent, But I think it's probably the greatest thing about her is that she does all these different types of albums, all these different textures. Right, Yeah, I got like Billy Eilish sad and dark and gloomy.

00:33:02
Speaker 2: You like everything sad and dark.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: And it's a great point. Yeah, whenever she starts to add like to I'm like, yeah, that's not my Billy Eilish.

00:33:09
Speaker 3: Really, you start dancing, I don't want to dance with Billie Eilish, Okay, you do in the car?

00:33:14
Speaker 1: I want to be sad.

00:33:15
Speaker 3: What what's your favorite song or artists that I play?

00:33:20
Speaker 1: Good question, Well, you had an entire face. Now it's all based on seasons of when these artists that you like put out music, because if they put out a new project, you listen to a lot of that new project until the next project comes out by the next person that you like. Yep, you really made me a Harry Styles fan. Yeah, that's been a while, but I can name and sing every song on that record. Yeah, so good, It's so good. Yeah, it was so good.

00:33:47
Speaker 3: That in Biaber, the Biaber record, Oh yeah, a lot of Biaber in our dating days.

00:33:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Harry Styles was it felt comfortable to what I already like, but also felt fresher and new or in a bit younger, right because he did that, I mean he purposefully.

00:34:04
Speaker 2: Please don't get into this. I hate when you do this.

00:34:07
Speaker 1: He purposefully chased retro what I don't know, I don't want to.

00:34:13
Speaker 3: It's just like every time you want to give Harry Styles a compliment, a listening to giving.

00:34:18
Speaker 2: I know who he's trying to be like.

00:34:21
Speaker 1: Even the imagery is very it's derivative of a lot of like those seventies on purpose though everything's drivingy Waterhouse.

00:34:29
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a ton of artists that do that.

00:34:31
Speaker 1: That's a great I like the Suki water House song too though, that's a good one.

00:34:33
Speaker 2: I love Suki and.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: I don't know much about her except she are pregnant by Robert Pattinson.

00:34:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a baby.

00:34:38
Speaker 1: Are they married.

00:34:39
Speaker 2: I don't think they're married.

00:34:40
Speaker 1: Living in sin they might be engaged, but I'm only half sin. Oh gosh, okay, what's that song? Gonna like that one?

00:34:47
Speaker 2: I don't know which one you're talking about.

00:34:48
Speaker 1: The one where it's like you think she's gonna say something that she says something else. That's a good one. I know them all. I do feel pretty cool whenever. It's like, here are the top five songs of the pop music I know every word to every one of them.

00:35:01
Speaker 3: What you think she's gonna Oh no, no, no, no.

00:35:05
Speaker 1: My think segwad house you are, But you.

00:35:07
Speaker 3: Change the word. She is gonna say fun and you say phone.

00:35:12
Speaker 1: Oh it's like I give up my phone or whatever it is. I like that song.

00:35:18
Speaker 3: It's like I just it's about how she just wants to have fun and he sings it he wants to have his phone, and it's.

00:35:24
Speaker 1: Like a little bit he does. Is it called good looking?

00:35:27
Speaker 2: No, it's called fun?

00:35:29
Speaker 1: Oh I was called my fun? I like good looking. I know this one.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: I love that song.

00:35:33
Speaker 1: Do I know this one? Mm hmm? But see this is like I high like my Billie Eilish.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like a good swaying song, and.

00:35:43
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, this is a good one. But the reason that Landa del Ray didn't hit with me at first, is because it felt a little too California beach sad. I don't even like California beach or Florida beach. Kenny Chesney, okay, shots fired, No, No, I like sad Kenny. I like sad Kenny chest and he does the greatest ballads. I don't like beach music for manybody, even Jake stuff. I don't even want the beach stuff.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: I don't feel like she's beachy.

00:36:08
Speaker 1: No, the Landadel race of like California sadness. You know, she has to have a song that's like that.

00:36:17
Speaker 3: It's not called California's West Coast misery, you know, stuff like that.

00:36:22
Speaker 2: A song called West Coast.

00:36:24
Speaker 1: So it's all that, And I'm like, I don't relate. I don't care about the beach.

00:36:27
Speaker 2: But it's not really about that though.

00:36:30
Speaker 1: Everything's about what you make it about.

00:36:31
Speaker 3: In art, isn't it interesting when artists have songs and their titles have nothing to do with the song.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: So abstracted sadness, that's that one, right, I've got So that's a good song. That's a good one. That's okay. Let me let me hear my phone, my fun. This song is a jam this radio or radio the CC Waterhouse. Nope, not a.

00:36:57
Speaker 2: Clue, missing out read.

00:36:58
Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, that's good. So I would say she says.

00:37:03
Speaker 3: Love me like I love my fun, and you say I love my phone.

00:37:08
Speaker 1: I do love my phone? How annoying is my phone?

00:37:10
Speaker 2: Do you that's annoying?

00:37:12
Speaker 1: No? Really, let's let's do three final things here if we've been on for a while. How final? Yeah, I'll do one. You can do one. I'll do one. It doesn't matter what it is. No pressure. If you don't have anything, because we didn't plan to do this and have anything, talk about me in my relationship with my phone and your feelings on it, and then I will give what I feel is and who said, oh boy, no, that's a good one. Yeah, way at me. She hates when I'm on my phone? Your do I remember you saying that, what is your relationship with me and my phone?

00:37:44
Speaker 2: I don't have a relationship with your phone?

00:37:46
Speaker 1: You do because you live with us and you live with me, and I use it. So there's a really like an emotional or how do you feel about my phone usage and when and where I use it? You're a lot better? Thank you? I appreciate that because I've tried to get a lot better.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a lot better at it. You use to be terrible.

00:38:02
Speaker 3: Because because you were addicted to it and you need constant stimulation and you can't be alone with your thoughts.

00:38:10
Speaker 1: I don't agree fully, but go ahead? Or is that all? That was it?

00:38:16
Speaker 3: And it's it's entertainment for you. You can do TikTok. You can do Twitter. Do we still say Twitter?

00:38:23
Speaker 1: I say Twitter?

00:38:24
Speaker 3: Okay, Twitter TikTok, dabble in Instagram. You can distract yourself with that and you and you can work on it. And so with those components, it took up a lot of your time.

00:38:37
Speaker 1: Yes, I can also watch now this is you. You're the one that got me on YouTube TV. Yeah, I did because you know, we had cable. It's fine, it's good and made all the streaming services. But she's like, you gotta get YouTube TV and that's what we live on YouTube TV now.

00:38:54
Speaker 2: Yeah we don't have we have, Yeah, we have cable.

00:38:56
Speaker 1: We just don't. I don't think we do anymore. We do, we do good for us. It's like the generator staying connected. It's like the generator of content, meaning if your power goes out, you turn the generator on, and for some reason, YouTube TV goes down. We go over to the generator, we go to cable.

00:39:09
Speaker 2: Don't remember I log in?

00:39:09
Speaker 1: If Wi Fi goes down, you get cable. Wi Fi goes down, a cable might go down. Does it no, really say same company? Interesting unless the less it's like a router issue. A router issue would be different. Uh okay, So I'd like to say this on my phone. I do not feel I'm addicted. I can. I can easily put my phone away for hours. I can put my phone away for a whole day.

00:39:38
Speaker 3: This is like what an alcoholic would say, I don't have to drink tomorrow.

00:39:43
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair response. However, I don't need my phone for the sake of it being my phone. I think there are things that if I get anxious, if I'm not responding or I'm missing especially work things, and then since it's already here, I might as well get on TikTok Like I need it near for security because there's a lot of decisions that they can't see your all your eys of me good. But I feel like that's the case. I need it for security. I need it when something's happening at work, even though I really can't affect.

00:40:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this isn't that's like an addict.

00:40:22
Speaker 1: But that would be being addicted to work, not addicted to my phone. Okay, And I'm not saying there's not an addiction to that. And I have also put in a lot of effort and even just acknowledgment pre effort that an understanding from me that I can see why you would be annoyed that I'm always on my phone.

00:40:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't even feel right to talk about this because it's such an old problem. Because we don't have this issue anymore.

00:40:48
Speaker 1: It is not an issue between us anymore. But there are some lingers. I love to wind down. I love to wind down at night. And you know how why down? I watched tiktoks.

00:41:02
Speaker 3: It's just the worst thing you could do, especially if you have sleep sleep issues.

00:41:06
Speaker 1: According to some experts.

00:41:08
Speaker 2: Pretty much all I think.

00:41:10
Speaker 1: Can I tell you why I read? And you're gonna side with her because she's smarter than I am, and I get it. She has great instincts and she studies. No one knows more about health that I know, if they're not a doctor, than her, she spend a lot of time dedicated to let me hear. I like to wind down by watching TikTok at night, and what I do that I can't admit is ignoring. I'll be in the bed. I did not know how bright it was, so she took a picture of me once, and it's like a whole movie projector screen on the back of the wall in the bed. When I'm watching TikTok. So I turn up now, She'll say, would you please turn your brightness down? When I lay down and start to be alone with my thoughts. As she mentioned accurately earlier, I don't have anxiety, in the classic form of anxiety, where people aren't able to make decisions in their day to day life because they're worried or concerned, or they're not yet they're still feeling their body manifest things. I don't have. That understood it was real, but I don't have it, and I always just felt very lucky. I did not have anxiety, especially as a person who is so focused on the things that it doesn't matter if I'm focused on it, I can't control. Don't have anxiety. However, I have anxiety and have only really in the past year, realized and acknowledged that when it hits me that same anxiety is when I'm asleep.

00:42:35
Speaker 2: It's when your anxiety hits you in the quiet.

00:42:39
Speaker 1: When I'm asleep. And if I'm not quiet until right right when I go to sleep, then I can go. That's how I go to sleep. That's crazy, I mean but even growing up, like I slept on the couch. We never had a bedroom growing up, so TV was always on, so I was never alone.

00:42:52
Speaker 3: There was never quiet, and there's not quiet when you go to sleep. Now it's like I need it read. It's a podcast until he falls asleep, Like even while he's sleeping, the podcast is still going.

00:43:02
Speaker 1: It's a TikTok into a podcast, and then once I fall asleep, the podcast will die.

00:43:08
Speaker 3: But if it falls not once you fall asleep, when the podcast is over, it will die.

00:43:11
Speaker 1: True, when I'm asleep, the podcast will end and then it dies. But I can't. I don't even use the word can't because I don't like using that word. It's very difficult for me to fall asleep quiet because everything in my body freaks out. Yeah, so it's like, well, I gotta work in nine hours to night folling out that night. I want to deal with my whole life of emotional trauma. So let me just have something that mildly stimulates me, and I take the stimulation down. TikTok goes to podcast. It's so okay, unhealthy.

00:43:51
Speaker 7: I didn't know if you like watch tiktoks and like fight yourself until you just pass out. No, when I start to get tired, I then roll over and turn Ryan, Rasilla or Bill say that's nice.

00:44:00
Speaker 1: Okay, we have a few approved And if I turn a high energy went on, she's like, it's not approve.

00:44:05
Speaker 3: When you try to do Colin Coward, I'm like, sudget, the voice is too high.

00:44:10
Speaker 6: It's like, have you tried the like waves and all that stuff?

00:44:13
Speaker 1: She doesn't. She listens. That's the healthy thing that people would do. Yeah, the phone is far less of an issue. But I would say that is like my hardest mountain to climb and get to the top and be like I did. It is not not need. I just don't think I'll ever not need simulation.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: But before I fall asleep, that's the attitude that'll get them.

00:44:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I do struggle with sleep. Yeah, okay, I hate that. Do you have anything, any questions do you'd like to oppose? If not, that's okay, because again, we had nothing planned. Yeah, I don't have any questions or a statement. I don't.

00:44:54
Speaker 2: I don't have a statement.

00:44:55
Speaker 3: Now. I was thinking something really exciting happened today that I can't talk about out yet.

00:45:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, but people are gonna have the wrong idea. Don't. Don't talk about it. You don't have to. But you saying that people are gonna have the wrong idea about it, Okay, they're going to sign something. It has nothing to do with us, and you know what we learned, So let's you say that has nothing to do with us.

00:45:13
Speaker 2: Oh, it has nothing to do with us.

00:45:14
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I need to say. Oh yeah, you know what Calen said last night, and I agree with her, But it was so a matter of fact.

00:45:21
Speaker 2: Sometimes conversations are private.

00:45:23
Speaker 1: I don't think you would think this was private.

00:45:25
Speaker 3: And I'm not worried about read. I feel like Read seen us in our and our worst than our best.

00:45:31
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I don't not agree with this, but the level of passion you had while saying it, I was like wow, and it was met warmly by everybody. She was like Bobby is not a people pleaser. He does not care. And our friends we're talking about earlier, Ben and Hillary, you know, they were like we're people please Kaitlyn's and people pleaser, and it was just a little too rough for me. Like I think if we do talking about it, and it's like, you know, it's a lot of people pleaser, and it's a it's a you know, you know, it's not always so focused on making her as you. But it said she like came hard, you are nuts, she gave. She was like, you know a lot of people pleaser. This m effort.

00:46:13
Speaker 2: Now, I said, you have no people pleasing in you at all.

00:46:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe something like that. And she's absolutely right. And they're like, we wish we had that, and I'm like, no, you don't, not at the level that I have it. And I think there are it's powers for good and it's powers that hurt me as well, But I don't choose that right, like I didn't choose how I my my instincts toward situations.

00:46:38
Speaker 3: No, I think it's you're it's a product of your upbringing as we all are. And I am def I was a mega people pleaser, but I hope that I've gotten better.

00:46:49
Speaker 1: At that, gotten so much better.

00:46:50
Speaker 2: I've been working on it in therapy for years at this point.

00:46:53
Speaker 1: So but I'll like, I don't think there's a right or wrong in any of it. I think you can be too much, okay, I think you could be on the polar scale.

00:47:02
Speaker 3: And I think we were at one point. You were on one side and I was on the other side with each other in general, No, no, in general.

00:47:09
Speaker 1: Why I think you've softened me a bit. I agree, I swear, and.

00:47:11
Speaker 2: You've hardened me a bit.

00:47:13
Speaker 1: Boys heard, But yes, I think for me it was I shall go forward anything in my way, but there's an honesty with that and a fairness with that and a consistency with that. And I always like that about myself, that you didn't have to like me, and I wasn't gonna do anything to make you not like me, but you were going to get consistency, and that here's what I am, here's all I want to do, Here's how I'm going to do it. You want to go with me or do you want me to run through you? That was what that was generally my not my my feeling about me versus the earth. Yeah, it's not. It's not as much like that anymore, but I don't. I definitely a lot of people please there. But it makes me sound like a dick when I when it's just I, when it's just said like that, that is okay, And I think it is that at times, I think it can be confused as that, and it's not, and sometimes it's absolutely not. That it feels very honest, right, And all three can be the same, It can be the same exact thing and be interpreted three different ways. And you know what, I do not care because nothing matters, but everything matters, but nothing matters, And that we assign such value to these day to day things or these interactions or non important relationships that aren't like your circle that were so worried about people that they're not worried about us. Why are we so focused on them they spend in five seconds thinking about us.

00:48:37
Speaker 3: Well, it's yeah, I mean I think for me it was I was so worried about other people. One because I just think I was brought up that way, and not that that's a bad thing, but I was so worried about other people really because I was worried about how they would perceive me and so I was always trying to control how they viewed me. So yes, I wanted to help them, but in reality it was it was also a self sen.

00:49:00
Speaker 1: Act, as was mine. But at the same time they both weren't as well, right, Like there's equal there's the other side to both of those coins.

00:49:06
Speaker 2: Totally, I still want to help people.

00:49:08
Speaker 1: You are you are the kindest person I know, Like, oh, no, doubt, no, you can. You don't have to fight this. I'm not saying it because you're here. I say it all the time when you're not here, Like you are the kind you have made me. I think I'm the same internally, the same person that wants to do things and does things, but I can communicate it in a much softer, more palatable way that allows people to understand that I actually am a real boy. Yeah, and not a little wooden Pinocchio, which at times it could be that because it was very even clinical feeling. Yeah, but you know, you're the You're the kindest person I've ever met and the funniest person. And I hate that.

00:49:53
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for saying I'm kind, but I I'm actually working on like not not being kind, but it being a Okay, if people don't think I.

00:50:01
Speaker 1: Am so I to me, that's nice. So we're just doing semantics, right. Yeah, I don't want to be nice ever, Okay, but nice to me is not authentic, but it can be to somebody else. Somebody else's meaning of nice can the same way. Any of these words can me have different definitions of different people. I never want to be nice, yep, because I feel like nice is a show. I always want to hopefully be kind and thoughtful, and I'm not. And sometimes it's not because I chose not to. It's because I'm either distracted or selfish or didn't know I want to be kind. I never want to be nice, But that doesn't mean that nice itself is bad because everybody's definition is different. And I think you're tremendously consistently always kind And in my mind when you say that, you're talking about nice, but just your definition is different, like you're not as ware about being nice.

00:51:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just not as worried. I'm not as worried as I'm not as worried about people viewing me as kind or nice any longer.

00:51:12
Speaker 1: That's good.

00:51:12
Speaker 3: I think That's what I was trying to say. And my therapist hit me with that the other day because we talk a lot about people pleasing and I don't even remember what we were talking about, but it was something I was going to do potentially, like could make that person think that I was mean. And she was just like, yeah, and people might. People might think you're mean, and that's okay because you know you're not. And even if you are, sometimes you have to be a little mean. You can't abandon yourself all the time.

00:51:39
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think I go to what was my intention? Okay, got to settle on that. Yeah, I mean, that's really what if I am concerned about that and I can't change someone's mind or perception, so I don't think about it anymore. I go, what was your intention? That's all you got?

00:51:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had to learn to do that.

00:51:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the best, You're literally the best. It's crazy. No, I'm not, I trust me. I'm not. But read reads the best. I was going to say this about read, and then I'll read and you can. If you have anything you want to ask us, we're happy to answer. I just love that she's here, so I don't want to No, she if she would.

00:52:16
Speaker 2: My teeth are chattering.

00:52:17
Speaker 1: It's not now, it's just part of the show. I feel like now, it's just part of the gimmick, you know, No, I feel like the whole show.

00:52:23
Speaker 3: I'm like that, like I'm not making any sense because my friend is not connecting because I'm so cold.

00:52:29
Speaker 1: It is. I've started to be a little cold and be honest with you. But I think the weather got cold today, so it's even colder than what the temperature says on the on the deal. Uh. A note about Read. When you talk about kind, Read is extremely kind, Yes he is, and caring, yes he is, and pardon my language, not a cursor. So I'm not going to curse here, but also a bit of a pussy because at times he can be so kind that he's just like.

00:53:10
Speaker 3: That he abandons himself. Yes, yes, and that's I did that for so long.

00:53:16
Speaker 1: Now that's what I like fight with them about. I'm like, let's go.

00:53:19
Speaker 7: What you were talking about is like what I've thought in myself for so long is like I don't stand up for myself as much as I should.

00:53:25
Speaker 3: Write, because it's more important for you for the other person to think you or whatever you want them to think you.

00:53:31
Speaker 7: Are exactly and actually and I'm like, it's just easier for me just to deal with you know this, then you know, stand up for myself sometimes. But I feel like at a certain point, when it gets to something that's super super important in my life, I can flip a switch and I'm like ready to go.

00:53:49
Speaker 6: But that takes a lot for it to get there.

00:53:51
Speaker 1: I've not seen the I know, not that we've been in a situation where the switches need to be flipped.

00:53:56
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I mean it'd be like it'd be like something like if if somebody he tried to like take advantage of Mattie or do something, then I would like out flip a switch.

00:54:05
Speaker 1: But that's the people, but it's other people. It's not even a good point. That's a good point.

00:54:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it's easier to stand up, Like I feel like I can stand up for him way more than I can stand up for myself. But I would like to give myself that level of like respect and love. And that's the journey I'm on. I don't really love when people say journey, but it's it's the word that fits.

00:54:25
Speaker 6: Well, that's a journey always growing, Yeah, but.

00:54:28
Speaker 1: You're hopefully you don't grow anymore, dude, you're like nine feets okay, yeah, so you at times I could see you letting people push around a little bit when you definitely could not have them push around. Both. You're a smart guy. You're physically imposing that you could do, but you just choose to be overly nice and kind sometimes. And I try to break. I try to break. I try to like.

00:54:58
Speaker 6: It's helped a lot on that, to be honest, Pickable has helped a lot.

00:55:00
Speaker 3: I yell at him, really, he does yell at you. I don't love when he yelled.

00:55:05
Speaker 6: I need that.

00:55:06
Speaker 1: I don't yell at him in a bad way. It's like you are good, you are good. Yeah, I'm like stuck. You're playing sloppy because you're being lazy, like stop and then he plays awesome. Yeah, but it's just a commitment. But when you talk about like read is really a nice, kind guy, he is.

00:55:25
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's say.

00:55:26
Speaker 1: Who's not I'm just kidding? Is that me? No?

00:55:31
Speaker 2: No, I was just kidding.

00:55:32
Speaker 1: I was really kidd Like in our lives, like we just started throwing people out and say nice, we got those.

00:55:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to.

00:55:39
Speaker 1: Do I think everybody's a villain in somebody's story.

00:55:44
Speaker 3: Do I think every every single person fills a villain role in someone else's life?

00:55:49
Speaker 1: Like you don't think? I know that there are people on the villain. They don't even know me too, for sure, Like especially people in entertainment business like that, I have the spot even some people that know me. Sure, I think there are people that you're a villain too, OOKI I think everybody is the villain in somebody else's life, even if they don't know it.

00:56:14
Speaker 2: I don't think everybody, but yeah, maybe most people.

00:56:19
Speaker 1: Who would it to be a villain? Who is like that? Who's the A plus nicest guy?

00:56:22
Speaker 3: Ever, I can't see my sister being a villain in anyone's life.

00:56:26
Speaker 1: I can for sure. The team may be in the state championship, like somebody's like that.

00:56:30
Speaker 8: It's like she's not wouldn't be the villain, No, but they could still be like a hated Grace Gasso like she because she plays dirty, but I would say, see that is not dirty, it's competitive, like she goes hard, like I admire how her sister plays makes me mer to punch in the face.

00:56:43
Speaker 1: And I love it. Formerly, I mean she hasn't played in a long yeah, but she like is competitive and mean in a competitive way, not as a person to person. She's the nicest, sweetest human being ever. But I love me and chaos sister had the biggest fight one of the first times we ever spent time together pickleball. You. I don't know what it was, but it was like, if you're gonna talk crap and play, let's freaking play.

00:57:06
Speaker 3: And she was mauthy and it was awesome, and DJ and I were like whatever, and.

00:57:12
Speaker 1: Caitlyn's parents were there and they were kind of like, uh uh, they don't care. But it's like I was kind of the new guy.

00:57:18
Speaker 2: You and DJ were the new guy.

00:57:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just and they every now everybody knows right, like we're all but great, Like I think even Grace, who's the nicest person, You're right. Ever, she's the villain in some people's stories.

00:57:29
Speaker 2: No, I don't want her to be.

00:57:30
Speaker 1: I know. It's so crazy.

00:57:32
Speaker 7: It is like people balance each other out like that, like her, like her and DJ like talking about you and DJ were just like, oh.

00:57:38
Speaker 1: We don't care. And then yeah, Bobby and her were just going at it. Right, Let's see what's our balance though? How does she balance me?

00:57:45
Speaker 6: Out right, I feel like you, like, I don't know. That's a good question.

00:57:49
Speaker 1: I can tell you as a human, as an actual human being. She has committed me to things that I thought I will never first of all, never enjoy them and I'll never do them, And now I actually enjoy them. Like what going and spending time with human beings that you're related to. Okay, you enjoy that. I do. I love when your parents come over. I know, I love going to Oklahoma. And the only thing I don't like is staying in your bedroom at home because the beds. It's a twin bed for like a thirteen year old and her, but it's the same bed, so we have to like lay on our side. Yeah, oh yeah, it's awful. But it's fine, it's good. I love being there. But like I never when we first started dating, what was what I was nervous about was that you had a family, because I didn't. I was like, I don't want to spend all this time somewhere, like dedicated all the time to somewhere, Like I mean every holiday, have to go here, every like that sucks. I don't want to always have to go. But now it's like one of my favorite things. And I think I mentioned this last night whenever, and I think I just said it in passing and then was like, wow, look at that whenever I won the MVP at the softball game. Oh yeah, I just wanted to tell her.

00:58:57
Speaker 3: Dad's all made me want to cry yells dinner and we were talking about he. Our friends hadn't really been on Instagram or anything. We han't seen him in a while, so they didn't know he won m v P. And he was like, yeah, and so and so was on my team, and and Dion Sanders was my coach.

00:59:12
Speaker 2: And her dad.

00:59:13
Speaker 3: Saw it and I was like, oh, and I said, my dad saw It's one of your highlights, and it was like.

00:59:18
Speaker 1: The first thing. Yeah, yeah, because it was like i'd have a dad, so it was like, that's like one of the first people I texted. And I was like, oh my god, you know you're not gonna believe it. Oh, my Dad's not a villain in anyone's story. That's the guy, I think, right, unless there's like an eye doctor that's like he's taking my business. Yeah, but also that could be it too though, Right, You don't have to be a bad person to be a bad person in someone's mind. Yeah, but that's a that was a And I'll end on this cause we've been and think this is a whole thank you one episode down in the payment for losing the bet, which I cannot even remember what we bet either, I know what.

00:59:53
Speaker 6: Didn't Did you mention it at pickleball?

00:59:56
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't a pickleball bet.

00:59:58
Speaker 3: Oh no, that bet was different. He had to him and our Cody have to take me and Josie on, like.

01:00:05
Speaker 1: Yes, we lost a bit, but it's because Cody sucks a pickle I love Cody too, but Cody sucks a pickleball and we lost. And now I will say that, Yeah, we were dinner last time and I said that, and I didn't think much about it until I said it, and I was like, oh, I never had a dad, So I think that's why that was important to me. I was in therapy and I was talking with and this is going to seem extremely trivial on the surface, but it is not. And it's very similar. And it's kind of when I stopped rooting for ou to lose, and it wasn't because of you. It was because I didn't like your dad to be sad. Because I was like, I don't want to be sad, and I was like, I don't want him to be sad. So it wasn't even that I would root for O you to lose. I just generally didn't care. I know it was your team. Yeah, but I would bet on him, so I would make me root for them. But now I don't need to bet on them to root for them because I don't want her dad to be sad because I know how sad that makes.

01:01:02
Speaker 2: Me, and you have a relationship with him.

01:01:05
Speaker 3: Like our therapist was so good about kind of boiling that down to what it is.

01:01:10
Speaker 2: He said, that's attachment.

01:01:12
Speaker 3: Yes, for someone who's so scared of attachment and says that you can't really attach to people other than me, Obviously we're very attached by it.

01:01:18
Speaker 1: But it's funny that it's like football, because that's the safe that feels safe to attach over. Mm hmm, like both of us can like it. We're still mere, you know. It's it's a you know, a toxic masculine my fault, my part because her dad is like soft and loving and kind. But I guess that was the only thing that felt like, Okay, I'm now going to have a bit of empathy for somebody and I'm going to care about how they feel and has nothing to do with me. And that it was because it was college football that I felt safe doing it, because I felt like I could I would not feel judged. Yeah, that's that's a breakthrough.

01:01:57
Speaker 3: That was a breakthrough that I loved that day in therapy when we talked about that, when he like just kind of I don't know if you told the story or if you were just making passing comment in therapy as well, but he grabbed onto that.

01:02:12
Speaker 1: I think it was semi passing yet, because I felt pretty stupid going I don't root against his favorite college football team because it makes me sad for him. I feel like that's this dumb thing to say, But really it wasn't. Our therapist did not make me feel down when I said that, And maybe I think I was just kind of like putting the line.

01:02:26
Speaker 2: In the water, yeah, to see like is it something?

01:02:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it it was something and what.

01:02:31
Speaker 2: We talked about it ever the whole time an hour.

01:02:33
Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of that, thank you for coming down to the house. It's my pleasure, Reid. Thank you for showing up over here. Last minute of course, we're going to play the YouTube that I did before you walk down. We're having a lot of technical difficulties for different reasons. The first time we had done it with a certain setup, so you can listen to it. It's fine. Next time it's gonna be better. We learned a lot today on the YouTube part of it, but this was thing I enjoyed. So thanks. We did forty five minutes, so thank you. One episode down, lost one hundred episodes.

01:03:06
Speaker 3: No, I think it's seven seven hours, seven hours, seven.

01:03:12
Speaker 6: Six seven hours of sitting in the mist six more.

01:03:14
Speaker 1: But no, she's great at it. She's the best.

01:03:16
Speaker 8: No.

01:03:16
Speaker 3: Okay, when you say things I actually i'm working on. Oh we're wrapping up, I should.

01:03:21
Speaker 1: Know you don't have. I'm wrapping out only for you because I feel like I have exhausted your Hey, this is novel time.

01:03:30
Speaker 2: I'm chill.

01:03:31
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.

01:03:33
Speaker 3: I think the reason that I get so like, I don't say I'm the best like, especially publicly, is because you used to. Whenever you would say I'm whatever, smart, funny, blah blah blah, it just get it gave people an opportunity to say that I wasn't do you know what I mean.

01:03:48
Speaker 1: I do. Let's just not talk about it at all. I recognize that, and I've tried to do a better job of framing it differently.

01:03:55
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I'm so disconnected from what people say.

01:04:00
Speaker 1: Now about me, people you don't know, especially Oh yes.

01:04:02
Speaker 3: Of course, of course I will listen to people that know me and they want to give their opinions.

01:04:06
Speaker 2: I will listen.

01:04:08
Speaker 3: But I think I'm so disconnected from having my pulse on the finger of others.

01:04:14
Speaker 1: Finger on the pulse, pulse on the finger.

01:04:18
Speaker 3: Breen Fog, having my finger on the pulse of like what people are thinking about me, I just don't know.

01:04:26
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what they think. And that's okay.

01:04:28
Speaker 1: The greatest gift to me would be if one day she said, you know what you can This is going to feel weird to hear. If she said to me because you don't label them the same as I do. But she is so accomplished in so many ways, And if she were like, yeah, you can share.

01:04:53
Speaker 2: That, Oh, what what are you trying to share?

01:04:57
Speaker 1: No, if you said to me, there are certain things in your life that you have done and accomplished.

01:05:02
Speaker 2: What is it. I'm nervous.

01:05:05
Speaker 1: I don't know.

01:05:08
Speaker 2: Are you trying to.

01:05:09
Speaker 1: There are many?

01:05:09
Speaker 3: Are you trying to tell me? But do you have something in mind that that I've done that you don't want to share?

01:05:14
Speaker 1: I do want to share. I would share everything that you've done.

01:05:16
Speaker 2: I mean that I don't want you to share. I can't even think of what it was.

01:05:19
Speaker 6: Just accomplishments in general.

01:05:21
Speaker 1: There are specific ones that I've just purposely not brought up. Oh okay, and I won't get I will not give exact details here, and maybe we could do it a different time if you're comfortable with it.

01:05:29
Speaker 2: Are they grad school ones?

01:05:31
Speaker 1: So how I was going to say, so she did, But I've said that you ended up. Yeah, you graduated, you went and got a master's after first in her class. By the way, she went back to college. But it's not that. And I'll just say this. One day at the airport, I was like, what what is that email? And she was like, oh, I've been up to something. Remember that, Yo, that's not how I talk.

01:05:53
Speaker 2: I've been up to.

01:05:53
Speaker 1: Say, But it wasn't It wasn't bad, no, no, no no no. It wasn't like you were caught doing something you were working on something.

01:06:02
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll say I won't say what it was. But I went back to grad school second time last year, and I wish I.

01:06:10
Speaker 1: Could talk all about it. That's what I'm saying. Like if she would just be like, hey, yeah, feel free, I would be like, man, people will be blown away if they knew that you're capabilities. Also like you're curiosity, also your commitment to like growing and getting smarter. And I interrupted you, I'm sorry about that, but like I that would be the greatest gift. Don't want to give me chrisalpressent. Just give me a wrap it up, put it in and say feel free to talk about it. That's all I need. Yeah, it was like, I'm so proud of you, like you just in general, thank you?

01:06:44
Speaker 3: That was that was really fun. I've learned about myself, which is going to be funny to say. I've learned about myself that I love learning. And I think that when I when I get I've gotten to a few different points in my life where it's like I haven't learned anything new in a while, and I don't like the way that that feels. I don't want this to be like the limit of my knowledge that I have forever. So if I'm interested in something, I like to learn a lot about it and become a little bit obsessed about it.

01:07:12
Speaker 1: But yeah, I went back.

01:07:13
Speaker 4: I did.

01:07:13
Speaker 3: I got a graduate degree, and then I went back to graduate school again last year.

01:07:19
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just that if one day I'll tell the story, because it's not. It's not just like she went back to school.

01:07:24
Speaker 6: I know some other ones too.

01:07:26
Speaker 1: You've told me, okay, slave Read with those secret knowledge. Yeah, so let's make a note to bleep out.

01:07:34
Speaker 3: I need Read to like really say it, because you know how sometimes he does the thing where he's like, yeah.

01:07:39
Speaker 1: I got it, I will do you have it? But do you have a reader yet? I haven't call it. Yeah.

01:07:44
Speaker 6: The first thing we talked about was it twenty one thirty four.

01:07:47
Speaker 1: Read was calling pickleball lines when he was out yesterday, and he'd be like, what Read, what right? No, say what you're saying? I said it was out? No, you said three times we did know what you were saying.

01:08:00
Speaker 3: You would just make a sound that could be either if you'd be like, We're like, yes, like it was out or it.

01:08:08
Speaker 1: Was in yeah, good like no identified the sound.

01:08:13
Speaker 6: I got it?

01:08:14
Speaker 1: Okay, you will handle it. Yeah, she trusts you.

01:08:17
Speaker 6: Before I even send this to Mike, I'm gonna clean all that up.

01:08:19
Speaker 1: Here's thing about her. I trust you read you burn her? Oh I'm out. No, that's you. That's true, that's me. I would be like you burn her with me. There you go, no more? Okay, thank you. I love you and I appreciate you coming down next time. If you give me a fifteen minute heads up, I will make sure that the places like Totina's before you get here.

01:08:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bobby Cast will be right back.

01:08:40
Speaker 1: In the groove now.

01:08:42
Speaker 8: She's ready to go.

01:08:43
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, and we're gonna do YouTube step before you get in.

01:08:48
Speaker 5: Good night, And we're everybody on the Bobby Cast.

01:08:53
Speaker 1: What's up everybody? So we're gonna do this podcast a bit different. We are up live on the Bobby Bone Show channel YouTube, and we were kind of experimenting here to see if we could go live and also save it as a podcast and also do a Q and eight at the same time. We're actually gonna play pickleball today, but it rained all day long. It's rained like five in the last six days. I remember my wife first moved here. I was like you're gonna love Nashville. And she was like, I hear it rains most and I was like, nine was a rain. It's not Seattle. And it's since she moved here, which has been like the four years, it's rained every day. It's in four years. So we hopped in the studio. If you guys, get in the chat now, and if there's anything you want to ask, go for it. I'm just gonna take off because I posted them on Instagram. Hey, what questions do you have? And we'll get there. Number one from Piper Lauri figure pro. When you get so angry after an Arkansas loss, do you feel mad at the team or them as a whole or what? Not really the players because they are kids. Probably the coaching staff because we didn't scheme right or prepare a certain way. Or maybe not even that. Maybe just myself for caring so much and getting so sad over a bunch of teenagers kicking a ball down the field. But that's a good question. I don't know who I ever get mad at it. I guess it depends each game. I really never get mad at a player, though, because I can professional different. If I've bet on a game and it's a player and they screw up. That's different. But college I don't really get upset at players so much. Next up, how hard was the process of getting veneers and what was the after effects? Like it sucked but it's awesome, And that is a question I've never been asked in the Q and A forum. So all my teeth I'll show you on YouTube. These are all fake. Hopefully there's nothing in them. I gave it all to you. They're there, They're all fake. Growing up at really bad teeth and brushing for a long time, didn't go to the dentist till my twenties, so really wasn't ready for the adult world of needing somewhat decent teeth, not even just visually, but like I was missing back teeth. Some of them were so cavity filled. So I started going to the dentist, started getting that fixes. That probably took like twelve to thirteen years to kind of get caught up. But because I never took care of them and obviously never had braces, the front ones are all crossing over. And at this point too, I wanted to do television, and I felt that that was holding me back a bit. If someone's like, let's make a decision either this guy or this guy. Well, this guy's got jacked up teeth, we're not taking him. I was like, well, if television being the visual medium it is, I need to get decent teeth. So it's one of the first things I ever bought when I made any sort of money was Veneers and so my and I know he is his term is higher than a dentist, and so I apologize, I'm going to mess this up, but I will say my teeth guy was Caroline Hobby's dad, who is there's a dentist, and there's a level above a dentist. Whatever he is, that's what he is. And so in Waco, I went to Waco and said, I want to get Venear's top and bottom. And the process sucked and he did a great job. And this is ten years later and they're still awesome. But he explains what's going to happen. What they do is they take your real teeth. And this is a very rudimental expectation or excuse me explanation. So first thing they do is they shave your regular teeth down, So they shave them like long ways, so you have like nubs and then they shave them a little bit, I think on each side, so you just have like little picks for each and then they have to let that heat. And after they let that heel because and as that's happening, you have a temporary, but you can't use that temporary to eat at all. So it takes I'm just gonna guess like two months to heal. Then you go in and after your gums are healed, they put on the fake ones. But the first process is they shave them down. You wear a temporary that looks like teeth. It looks good, but you can't use them. And then when they're healed, then you go back and you get the other ones put in well. Because I wanted top and bottom done at the same time, I don't think they did them at the same time. I could be remembering this wrong. I think he did, like the top let him heal, put the top teeth in, then shave the bottom ones down, let them heal, then put those in. So I think the whole process was like a four or five month process where I could not eat with my normal teeth. Not that I eat corn on the cob every day, but the only teeth I could really use with a very very very very teeth and that was a weird time. Was it worth it? Absolutely? I was so proud of them. I still am proud that have decent teeth now because I didn't have that. Like my whole life. I was so self conscious about my teeth and if I smiled, and there were a lot of pictures from when I was younger, we just smile like dish because I was so embarrassed that I never got braces or even had naturally good teeth. So that's a ques That's an interesting question. Who when we find out who is leaving on the show. This morning, I mentioned that someone on the show had come to me and it's said that they have to leave the show, but not right now, but there have been some other dynamics that have been in their lives, so they are going to let me know far ahead of time when they are leaving. I am not at liberty to say right now exactly who that is, but I did say that someone was Also. I liked doing those segments because they're not lies. We don't create those storylines, but I like those little teasers a little bit. We had one that was on the show today that we wanted to talk about, and it was an Amy story. We've had a couple when she had the meth sent to her, and we were afraid to talk about it on the air because well, if we talked about it on the air, we felt like somebody may murder us to try to get the met that they accidentally put an Amy's mailbox. That was a weird one. Another one was on lunchbox and I bought the storage locker. When we got inside it and he went to go clear it out, there were a lot of things. There were no guns, but there was a lot of AMMO and a lot of other little small things that led us to think that whomever storage unit it was, whoa, I just heard some voice that whomever storage unit it was was up to no good. Not just because there was AMMO. I have bullets here at the house, but shotguns joke, This was not that they were also like burner phones. Whoever had that stories, you know, it was a bad deal. So we didn't talk about that for a while, and then we finally did. We waited like a year and a half or so, but we keep notes on our calendar on when it's clear to actually talk about stuff. The story from today was and while it was happening, it was really odd, was that when Amy was getting a divorce and she couldn't talk about that lifetime because they were actually doing legal things. And I remember people getting so upset, like, I can't believe you're keeping it from us. We literally couldn't talk about it because she was in the middle of a legal process of getting a divorce. But some listeners felt that that was the case because she wasn't wearing a ring, like she was trying to do everything she possibly could do to let everybody know without actually saying what was going on. And so some listeners found her cell phone number and one in particular started calling her, acting like he was a reporter, and he said he's from the Austin American Statesman, which is the local newspaper to where she is from. We all lived in Austin, and said that he and they were doing a profile piece on her, which is exciting. That's our hometown paper. Of course, who wouldn't want to have a profile piece done on their hometown paper. And like his first question was are you still married? She was like, that feels weird. Let me call you back and so shocking to my wife and wife's like what they said their name was, and they gave us a name, and they were listening to nowhere in the entire directory of the Austin American Statesman. But there were a couple of really weird things that were happening around that time, very similar to that. So we never told that story, which was a little more in depth you can listen to on the regular podcast. We never told that story, but that was one of those way to hold on because we didn't know who it was, what they were up to, why they would be doing that. Maybe it was a new reporter and there would be a story. Well it wasn't. None of that happened. But all that to say, I'm sure soon enough I'll be able to tell you who's leaving. It's not Scuba Steve. The thing about Scuba Steve is people have misinterpreted that he's not leaving. I'm just trying to help him get another job because he wants to be a personality. So he's a great executive producer and what he does is he oversees everything at the show, the executive producer of everything. He does, sales calls, he makes sure people get the note on what time to be in on the show, who the guests are. But he's not leaving because he's so good at his job and it's a really good job. But what he wants to do is be a personality as well a little more on rock station. So we've been helping him. I've been helping him do that. But he's good, and so that was interpreted as he's leaving. He did come to my house and we talked about it, and I was like, hey, if you really want to do it, like, I will support you. I will give you whatever recommendation that you need. In order for you to have to move to Tupelo, Mississippi, or Rochester, New York, You're gonna have to go way down, like in market size or not even market size, because we're a syndicated show. You're gonna have to go way down in order for them to put you on a show. They're just not gonna give you a big show, considering you've never done it. And so we did talk about that and it was a brief consideration. But I think one, he loves Nashville, Two he loves the show, and three I think he can do both and hopefully that's the case. Here's a question from Underscore Megan, Underscore, I do you think you'll ever have Zach Bryan on the show. So let's remove what's happened over the past week from my answer to give you a bit of background about Zach Bryan and myself, and that there is no background. I've only ever seen him do like one or two interviews ever. I think Joe Rogan was one of them. He did back in the day. I'm sure he's done them now. I don't think I've ever met him in Nashville. I've only met him once in Dallas, and that was at a hotel counter. He was standing up there. I saw him, and I went up to him. I was like, hey man, and he was super cool. He's super nice. I didn't expect him not to be nice, Like I really had no relationship with him either way. And so because he has not been in Nashville to my knowledge, to do any sort of press, he's not been by the show. I did get invited out there, like, hey, if you like to interview Zact, you can fly out to Red Rocks to that show and go to the show and interview Zact backstage and I didn't want to do that because I don't want to have to travel to do interviews. I think. I guess that's a pretty bad precedent for me, or some artists will be like, Eh, I don't really want to do it, but he can come to me and that's fine. And also I just I travel enough. I guess I dehydrated. It's all think about when I travel is being dehydrated. So we do not have a relationship at all. I thought, you know, all this stuff that came out the last couple of weeks or so with Brown Chicken, right, seems pretty scummy for sure. So I definitely haven't had him on in the past couple weeks. But he's never actually been on the show. I've never interviewed him. His team had invited me out to do one thing. I've invited him to do a thing, and we've never actually done anything, nor good nor bad, Like there is no beef, but there's also no friendship because we've never met each other. But yeah, that's it. That's that all right. Best interview tip for podcasters from Underscore Samantha Kramer. If you want to do this, there are two things. One be extremely niche to find something very specific that you think there's only a select few people that will even care because one that's not true. It doesn't matter how niche you are, there's still thousands of people, if not hundreds of thousands, that love it. You have to be extremely niche until you have to be extremely consistent and expect a very slow build. I mean, there are shows on our podcast network that now do really well but took a long time. Even with the promotion of it. It's hard to get people to go search you and hit that subscribe button and then get them to listen. It is very difficult to get people to do that. I mean to even think it like habits of like in the eighties, nineties, two thousands, if one of those television morning shows, if it was a Good Morning America, that Today's show insert, those became so habitual for people they couldn't get you to change to go to another one. So once they got you, they got you. This is a different version of that. We have the podcast or the radio shows that we listen to, and it's hard to get people to go and check out anything new. It's hard to get people when they watch clips because I have podcasts that I basically just consume clip form on TikTok that I've never actually gone and listened to as a podcast. But I feel like like Pat Bev and Rohne, which I watched pretty much all of their clips, and that's a basically a basketball podcast. Pat Beverly who played at Arkansas but played Overseas last year but played had a bunch of years in the NBA, they do a podcast, Pat Bev Show. I've never actually gone and subscribed to it. I just listened to it, or excuse me, I just watch it on TikTok. But my advice would be find something specific podcasts that people go. You know, I just want to like interview good people and not even interested anymore. You know, I was talking with Morgan yesterday because she flew with me over to Fayetteville. You know, it's part of a big announcement for a multi couple hundred million dollars scholarship going to I almost under privilege, but lesser privileged kids in Arkansas, people that need the help. And we were flying over and she goes everywhere with me basically her and read and as we were flying back we were talking about it because she also manages the podcast network. She's the president of it, and in that it was her and I talking about shows, like we're meeting with another show next week to see just to kind of feel you know, what are they about? You know, how can we help them? We want to bring them on the network. But it's like the one thing that we don't want is a show that depends on interviews, a show where someone's like, no, I'm going to get a lot of interviews, because anybody can do that. So you have to be a dynamic personality yourself. Interviews are great. If you get a great interview, that's cool, but that person's probably also doing four or five other interviews, maybe ten or twenty, and they're with the interview. You can't count on that all the time. It's all up to guestbooking. So you have to be a dynamic personality yourself. So find a super niche and then be consistent. The hardest thing is to post a new episode even every week. It is extremely difficult, and you think once a week. The weird thing here in my situation now is is, yeah, I do the radio show in the morning. The weird thing about the podcast situation is that so I do the radio show, and I've dedicated more time to making content for the actual radio show then I think at any time in my career, because now there are many places to put the content that we make. I mean, if you go ten years ago, it wasn't like we were making all this content for social media and YouTube that it was such a priority. We were, we were podcasting, we do extra podcast stuff, but really it was we were on four or five hours. You do the show, you make some ancillary things, and you just pray to guy that people like you. Now it's so much about we do the show, the broadcast show, and you know, millions of people hear that in the morning live, and that version is slightly different than the podcast version of the show, and sometimes more than slightly different. Sometimes it's moderate to SIGNIFICI ghenttley different because on the broadcast part, the radio part, I don't know why I do finger quotes, but the radio part that you hear live, I'll say that, like ould, the interviews will be much shorter because people attention spans are much shorter. So we've got to find a way to do much shorter interviews, and the interview itself may go on for like twenty or thirty minutes, but it's in much shorter parts going into songs, coming out of songs, going into the song. There's a commercial back with that. So we have you know, I've had to build a strategy of how can I keep people around because nobody, including myself, we don't have attention spans anymore. And it's like Brooks and Done, which is happening. I don't know when this comes out, but like Friday, like we did thirty or forty minutes with those guys, and you'll hear two and a half to three minutes at a time into a song, then I'll cut all right, Brooks is done back in a second with these guys, will ask this question. I didn't do that live. I did that after the fact, after the interview. And we never do interviews live anymore because of that as well, because I don't want to have somebody to come up and have to sit for two and a half minutes, talk real quick, get into a song, commercial break, talk for two and a half minutes, come back. Okay. But that's the live part of it, right, it's the radio part of it. We're just begging people give us your attention for five seven twelve eighteen minutes. The podcast part of it. We put the whole thing up there and some of the stuff. Half the stuff never makes the air because what's presented in that live format, And I can't say too many things about how that's I can't really talk about ratings. What can I can say, like we're rated good here, we're rated not good here. But I can't really talk about the process at all because you get in trouble doing that. But I can't put on a really long interview because it does not translate, even if it is a really great interview. So we put that all on the podcast whole thing, because podcast listening is dedicated listening, like purposefully somebody came to the to the show, to the podcast to hit play. They have it in their ears. They are purposeful about I want to hear this show and these people, where radio is still a bit passive, meaning people something could just discover you and or they could be in the car with you on and there's other people in the car and kids. They can turn you up or down or only kind of be listening, or they could be on the phone while So it's definitely two different ways to create content. Just audio wise. But now you know, we do three or four days a week an entire extra half hour of us just doing what we call post show. Sometimes we'll do a pre show too, where I used to take some of that time before the show and I would just do all my commercials and do all my liners for local markets. Now we'll just hop on and do fifteen twenty minutes because really I just need that time to kind of talk and get loose, get warm, give my brain and go and make sure my voice is fine. But now we'll do that a little before the show. So it's like the pre show and the post show. But between that and video content, and I put up behind the scenes of us, like cutting station liners, Like I've never been more dedicated to making sure that the show is like Super served as not a radio show, but as a content show. And there are many things that we can improve on too, because I think we're coming from that mindset of hey, let's be a really good radio show that puts our stuff on social media, and now it's just not that anymore. Now it's outside. We shouldn't put segments up and be like, okay, we're all good. So we're getting there. But I also have like twenty five Whistles, and there are all these podcast projects that I have, and if I'm just being honest, I never asked to do any of them podcast wise, And I've taken myself off the road over the past three or four months because of all of the podcast projects that I've either been asked to do or that I've agreed to do, or that I am doing twenty five Whistles, which the show now does great. But I never had an interest in getting back in sports. I did sports for a long time. I did a national weekend show on Fox Sports Radio. I did it, and then I had Andy Roddick was my co host for a long time, and then he went back to tennis, and so he couldn't do it anymore. So I did it by myself, and like Lunchbox was like a side guy and a couple other side guys that were like they helped Andy and I. But I really didn't have an interest in sports as far as if I only have a certain amount of time in my pie, how much pie am I giving to what I did the NFL Draft, I thought that was fun. Draft Kings approached me a couple of years ago, and they approached the company, and then together they approached me and they were like, hey, do you want to do sports again? And I was like, I don't know that have the capacity. I'm touring. I think maybe I was working on a book or something. And they were like, we would love to have you do a show for five days every day an hour for five days, and we pay a lot of money. And I did not think that I could do it at the level that it would be. I thought I could make it successful, going seventy five percent, but I didn't feel like I would feel good about it, like I wo'd feel proud of it. So I said, no, can I do that? So it ended up being two shows a week and then a non football one show a week. The reason the company wanted me to do it is because DraftKings was investing a lot of money in the company. They were already investing a bunch of money in the radio show, and they wanted to just have me do sports specific because at the time I was the only non sports personality that DraftKings had invested money as a radio show. And then they're like, do a show, do a sports show? So I we started twenty five whistles and never really wanted to, never planned to, but then really enjoyed it. I'm super happy we're doing it now because it's kind of turned in this great thing where we're getting massive guests now and we're able to like do some pop culture stuff and some news and then also have on the Georgia Tech head football coaches. We get into a Notre Dame. The week before that, we have you know, a major person out, Dan Patrick's been on. So it's been crazy at how that has happened. But I never really wanted to do it. That was something that the company had asked me to do, and I said I'll do it. And I also am weird about our Bobby Bone Show podcast feed, where I don't I wish that nothing could go up there except for the Bobby Bone Show. Now I know that is not a reality. And whenever we agreed to the deal with DraftKings, it wasn't my deal to make because I don't own that feed, but the deal was to them because they're not going to spend a lot of money on a podcast if it already doesn't have a following or somehow they're not going to get a following super quick and thinks about podcasts. Even the massive ones take a while to build. Even the ones that build super fans still don't build super super fast unless you're hot toua or there's another feed they'll put you on in order to add stream, meaning people that are built into this feed are also getting your show. Like I've follow Collin caw Herb and there's four or five shows to pop up in his feed. So what the company agreed to do in order to meet some sort of we can get you this many listens was they put on the Boby Bone Show feeding. It was in the contract, and I was like, I don't hate it, but I didn't like things on the feed. I don't like anything on the feed. It's not Bobby Bone Show. So it was on the feed and I got used to it, and now it's there all the time. And do I like it that it's there now? I do because I'm used to it. It goes up two days a week. But I don't love the idea of things not being exactly only one thing on those podcast feeds. And every once in a while the company will put something like Herb Wilson's doing a new podcast. It's on Kitty Cats and they'll throw up a promo on that and I hate it. But I'm own the company that show was baby. So sometimes if you see weird stuff pop up on the podcast feed that has nothing to do with us, we didn't put it there. The company put it there. Now I get it. It's their company. They can do whatever they want. I don't want to promote stuff in the company, So twenty five Whistles never expected to do. I'm about to launch a different show. I'm just gonna be careful about what I say because we're so close to it. It is a different sports show, which I got a message from one of the heads of the company going, hey, would you do XYZ sports show? And I'm like, I already do a sports show, Like I'm good. Like my fulfillment with sports. It couldn't be in a better place. We're doing two days a week on the podcast. I'm doing too much access. We're flying to all these really awesome places, meeting coaches, playing with players. Like it's great. They're like, but would you do one more one hour a week? And my answer to that was if it's exactly the same as what I'm doing now, no, But if you can provide something that hasn't that I've not been able to do on twenty five whistles. Yes, I'd be very careful here. They were able to provide something and I think it will be announced soon. But I never had a plan to do it. I never wanted to do it. Now. Am I very excited about doing it. Absolutely, it's gonna be awesome, But I never like search it out. And I'll give you one other example here, aside from the Bobbycast, which we're five hundred episodes into that now that I do want to do. That's probably where this will live as a matter of fact, Like I do want to do that, and we you know, I started that years and years ago, Mike de and I from a closet. But there's another A major studio reached out and said, hey, will you do a podcast accompanying XYZ. I didn't really want to do it, but I do like the thing that's accompanying, meaning I didn't pursue it. I did not want to do it, but I wasn't like doing it already, and I was like, I don't know, and like companies like please because they're gonna pay us money too, and like, yeah, I'll be I'm a team player, sure, so they're gonna pay me too. So there's like so many podcast things going on that that's pretty much been all I've been dedicated to, which is weird because I haven't really done any television in the past six months or so, and that feels a bit weird, and you start to feel like, man, I've been out of it so long. Am I ever actually gonna go backward? Does anybody want me back at this point? But I've really dedicated myself to all of this. But then what happens is we're doing all these podcasts and I like to have my own guys. I like to have all the people that I trust do all the stuff that I feel passionate about and so and they've all been with me forever too, so, like you know, Mike d for example, is an early example. He was an intern and he did it move to Nashville with us at first, but got him a job like working in the radio station there, moved him here. He lived with me for a while. Mike did and I have together twice at this point, assistant producer. Now he's like head writer, Like he's basically my brain. He knows where I want to go. Constantly writing games like that's what A lot of what he's writing is coming up with the game ideas like so important. But like I want Mike to produce the Bobby Cast, I want Mike to produce twenty five Whistles. Kick Off Kevin is now one of those guys I want Kickoff Kevin. Kickoff Kevin is a big part of twenty five Whistles. Kickoff Kevin's part of the morning show. Now. I met Kevin literally because he was looking for a job to write the Countdown. I think, I think that's what a job was. And I was like, I don't don't know, like this dude just because he was tattooed and muscular and I'm not. I'm just tattooed. I'm even muscular. But like Kickoff, Kevin is so consistent, like he shows up on time every time, great work at the great attitude. That's ninety eight percent of being successful. But it's like, I want kick Off Kevin to do these other project He's going to produce the other sports deal, be the head producer on that. I want him to do the other thing that Again, I never really want to do any of the extra stuff. I am doing it and I'll be happy to do it, and I think it will be really good. But I want him to do it. But then the company's like, you're overextending your people, and then I'm like, well, let's give them raises then, because I'm really just trying to make sure they have enough money, and then that becomes an issue. But I very much get into I want to make sure that all my people have all the opportunities inside of our little circle instead of just bringing people in little job here, a little job there. So I'm not even sure what that question was. I think it was, how's your day? It's going pretty good? Thank you? Is the stream still up? We be good, We're still going Okay. You guys can ask questions in the feed. I have a bunch here too on my phone. What do you have thoughts on Coach calc? So this will be the only other Arkansas question I will answer it because I don't want this to be a full Arkansas sports podcast. I think my thoughts are great. I don't only have thoughts I don't know Coach cal. I purposefully have tried not to know Coach cal because I don't want to not like him. I don't not like him, but I don't know them, don't like them. But the worst thing that could happen is I like, oh, I don't like that person and they're coaching my favorite thing in the whole world, which is Arkansas sports. So I don't want to, as they say, fly too close to the sun. You know, Icarus did that and melted and flew too close. They're like, don't fly so close, as I like, I'm gonna do it. So I don't want to get too friendly with people that are a part of like the things I really love, because if I don't like them, it's going to make me love the thing less. But everything I hear about Cal is this great dude. He's an awesome guy. So I hope the basketball team does great. And if he's there a couple of few years, I'm sure we are going to meet bbffs or not. But I just don't want to not like something that I love so much. So I don't really have a personal relationship with him, but I'm rooting for him and I think we'll be really good this year. What else you got, I guess people can't. You can have a microphone, but the question is traditional radio broadcasting, So to me when someone's radio. I just considered that anything that comes out of the phone, that's me. You know what is radio now, it's anything that comes out of your phone. Like, I need my show to be good if someone's streaming it. I need my show to be good. If someone's listening to it through the old school transmitter transmitter yeah, trends, yeah right, I need someone if they're watching clips on YouTube, if they're listening to the podcast, and the term traditional radio has changed in many ways over the last fifty years. Is definitely not the same today as it was even two years ago, and it will not be the same in two years as it is now. So will it ever die? No, just like network television has never died. Did someone come in, Hello, my wife, thanks.

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