Mia Povich You ARE the father? RHOP Pt. 2 Reunion Recap

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good. I can't complain working hard. You know how it is. You know what I'm saying. I had to go get my B twelve shot and all of that.

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Speaker 1: Id IV whatever I feel like at the time. So what other shots do you get besides the IV? She got the old shot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Mama got it. Keep it together.

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Speaker 3: Now, I take a lot to keep all this together. Now, it might look easy, but it ain't easy. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the pea shot.

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Speaker 3: What yo pee?

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Speaker 1: You, are you able allegedly?

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Speaker 3: Are you able to go to a good eight of nane? Okay? And it makes it strong? So you know what I mean? Put Toya right.

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Speaker 1: To sleep, my girl. I'm just playing y'all.

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Speaker 3: Y'all know we pay two damn much. This is my friend, doctor Jada. See she got a book getting ready to eat.

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Speaker 1: You love a book. Girls.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to support them.

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Speaker 1: So now.

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Speaker 3: Go collos. What's going on with these ladies?

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Speaker 2: So we have a lot to talk about. Welcome to hey, rain drops inopies. How are you Hi, everybody, Welcome to another.

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Speaker 1: Edition of Messy Monday.

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Speaker 2: We are going to talk about the Real Housewives of Potomac Part two reunion. This was This was a good reunion. There was a lot going on, a lot happening. We first got to get into the continuation of Mia, who I like to call me a Povich. So Mia Povich is the granddaughter of Maury. She likes paternity tests and we need to know if you are the father.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So Mia Povich finally revealed whether or not Gordon is the father of their son. And according to Mia Bielyon, she is saying that that is Gordon's son. And she said it with such conviction because Mia Povich that I know my body. I'm a woman, and I was going through IVF.

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Speaker 1: I U F. You know, I want to make sure I get it right.

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Speaker 3: Yet why you at But I think she meant IVF.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, that's why I was gonna film like IVF. But you know, Mia lives on planet Mia Honey where there's nobody there but Mars and the eclipse. So the planet Mia lives on Honey with the aliens. She said that she knows for a fact that this is Gordon's baby.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that to be true? I don't think she knows it for a fact. I don't think until we see a DNA test, which we got them. They really easy to do, and it looked like at the end of the reunion. I ain't going to the end look like Gordon had did a DNA test because he said he got some evidence for us at the end.

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Speaker 1: But we ain't got that yet. But I need to.

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Speaker 3: See the evidence because you don't know your body. Your body can't tell you who the daddy is, can't it. I don't think so. I think that you know as a doctor. I know, I'm just a Danish, y'all. I'm up in the head. But you know what I'm saying, school though, I went to dental school, and I don't think you know your body is to know who baby, who's the father? I just don't think you know the DNA because if that were the case.

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Speaker 1: Marvey Polk, Marve Mark, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Maury, Maury Public would have been out out of business a long time ago because one hundred A lot of the women women are like that. I'm one hundred percent, I know for sure, Yeah, I know sure, just to daddy and then just for that man to hit the loder and start running around, and here is not the father.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I think that I think that I don't know. You say me ll be lying, But to me, she's allowed to lie. Like why would she lie to us when her man allows her to just do whatever?

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Speaker 1: She don't got a lie.

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Speaker 3: She'd be telling the truth is the truth is bad enough that she don't really even have to lie.

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Speaker 2: This's the thing. There's a lot on MIA's brain. You know, her head is not as big as her feet, so you know, when it comes to things, I just don't think MIA's brain has the ability to hold memory. I think her her purse has the ability to hold money. I think her house has the ability to hold men. But I think when it comes to her remembering things because I love you so Mia, I just don't think she's able to two and two with Mia equals a negative sex.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things going on in that brain of hers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, For one, I don't know. She said first that she married him for the money, but then she said that she had a great inheritance and she didn't need the money. So but now she says she takes care of him and the reason they least went bad is because she didn't want to pay his half of the rent. So who got the money, Carlos, Where the money at?

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Speaker 2: I think to your point, her, her new man Inc. Has the money.

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Speaker 3: I don't think ain't got the money.

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Speaker 1: The people ain't.

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Speaker 2: God listen, I want to get to what you said to me last week that gag Dee when you said you think Bonnie and Clyde, which is Mia and Ink both ran a game, or Gordon in his pockets, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Said, allegedly, I say that what makes thats what it makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying, because I feel like a relationship ongoing. That's what she's leading us to believe that they've been together, because at first, you know, they got married, she was dating Ink initially, then not a baby named you know, the baby that she's had years ago is still named in the paternity test, so we think that they've been dating for a while. So she basically said that Gordon was the man with the money. She met him at the strip club, he bought her car, and then we extended that to she married him. But she was still dating Ink along the way, so that leads me to believe that they were playing him. Yeah, I would say that. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing is this, I definitely think Mia.

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Speaker 2: Is figuring things out, and I think as a woman, she's allowed to figure things out. I think she's allowed to change her mind. She did admit finally that she had an affair with Ink in the beginning of her marriage to Gordon, So that was a revelation that allowed.

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Speaker 3: To change your man. The truth is what it is. Truth cannot change based on who you're talking to. You can change your man. But I'm just saying one of them was not the truth. That's all I'm gonna say about it.

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Speaker 1: But that's why I call her Mia be lying because me and be lying, you know what I'm saying about it. But listen.

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Speaker 2: To know me is to love her and to understand that sometimes she's on planet land. Yeah yeah, and her whole life is an eclipse. So one of the things that came out in this conversation, though, heavenly, was the revelation that she got tired of Gordon's manipulation.

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Speaker 1: Those are the words I'm using. She's not used that word, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The fact that she would wake up to see her bank account at zero. Now, listen, everybody who attends Doctor Heavenn University knows this. Every woman, I'm gonna care if you married, engaged, single, or a little sex worker. Whatever you are is your business. At the end of the day, every woman needs to have a separate bank account.

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Speaker 1: So the second that this man.

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Speaker 2: Will take her money out her account, and when she would wake up and brush her teeth and go on Chase dot com and see that her checkings was at a zero, that is another form of manipulation.

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Speaker 3: You believe it to be true.

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Speaker 1: Though to me, I just don't see us.

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Speaker 3: I believe that he would go in and account and just just wipe out all the money.

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Speaker 2: I definitely believe that it's a form of control. Let's call a spade a spade. And when an older man who is about to go on Social Security, right, when the older man gets with a young chick, okay, and he buys her car while she has a boyfriend, and mind you, he's still married, he is teaching you that he's in control, that he's in charge. I one thousand percent believe that a form of manipulation that wealthy men do to younger women. Is I'm gonna take the money out of your account and what you're gonna do about it?

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Speaker 3: But listen, so to me, for me, me knowing me a look like to me, she's an intelligent woman, she would not allow that. Like to me, she would have a separate account. Just to me, commonsense. I mean, I'm a woman, I'm married, I make my own money, my man make But you know you, as a woman, everybody knows to have their own account. I'm just thinking that that just wouldn't have been me all her money. Like I just don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, now listen, I do agree with you. I'm not saying that was her entire I.

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Speaker 3: Mean he might have taken it out of the account that he put the money in, you know what I mean, he took it back. But she she's making more money now than both her inc and and Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Correct, this is her fourth season, so she definitely rolling radio host.

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Speaker 3: I mean not Gordon inc. Is a radio host. We all know he not Ricky Smiley. He's not Steve Harvey.

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Speaker 1: He's not he's not even ebony still used to be.

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Speaker 3: Your personalities like the regular ones don't really they're not making like that for real.

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Speaker 1: I think he made six figures.

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Speaker 3: Okay, six figures is not a lot, it I mean, let's have the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna let you have it. Then yeah, he making the money, then he making no. But I think this, I think this.

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Speaker 2: Mia said in part two Reunion that she lives in a penhouse in the city of Washington, DC. Okay, okay, that the house is one thy one hundred square foot.

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Speaker 1: That's small, but I don't know DC. That might still be expensive.

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Speaker 2: So but that's my things as somebody who founded doctor Hewling University.

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Speaker 1: Is that a.

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Speaker 2: Smart move for a soon to be single woman with two kids to live in a penthouse in the city that is a thousand square foot?

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Speaker 1: Is she renting or is she purchasing?

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Speaker 3: Because maybe it's an investment property that she plans on Airbnb and later because it might be a great investment.

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Speaker 1: But if she got to h she said it was a condo, so it's a condo.

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Speaker 3: Did she purchase the condo because we can use the condo later? That can be an investment. A lot of people save their money in real estate. So is it rental or is it a purchase? That's what I need to know because if it's a rental, that's just something. Because if it's a rent then she can use that for other purposes, and you know why she's in transition.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. Okay, I mean, okay, just right.

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Speaker 3: But if she's renting it, yeah, don't make sense.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about this whole me and Gordon thing? Do you think you look good too? I don't know what's up with your table.

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Speaker 4: But I'm my cable. If I go in and all leave it on the clips, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know people, buddy.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is at this point, Mia brand winner for Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, that's correct, winner for Gordon. Mia right now is the breadwinner for sure?

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Speaker 1: So much so. Gordon is living in Charlotte, It okay? And he may be moving to d C to be closer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, am I going to Nada? Is that you what we doing? Because I ain't okay?

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Speaker 1: Is it me? Hear you? I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: What they're saying. It's you on this end, so I don't know, but anyway, I'll be back, Okay, good, okay, So Gordon?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Gordon is.

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Speaker 2: With me and now for her money. Correct, well, it appears to be Listen. I one thousand percent believe that Mia and Gordon love each other and and I think when you're with somebody for more than ten years, there is a sense of lay there. And I think Gordon is an older man and the fact that he was going through this unfortunate life or death situation and he told his wife, you are allowed to go have you know, a happy time as another man.

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Speaker 1: I think Gordon's at the.

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Speaker 2: Age now heavenly where he wants to be taken care of the way he took care of Mia.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, within that, I mean, you know, I try to have an open mind to different situations, you know what I'm saying, and whatever works for them, if he's allowing it, I know it got hurt his ego though as a man, But for him to allow her to have a.

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Speaker 1: Boyfriend and a husband. But they're going.

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Speaker 2: Through a divorce, correct, They are going through a divorce, and he is okay with the fact that she has now moved on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so they're not going to be together at all.

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Speaker 2: No, And I don't want to skip so far towards the end, but let's just talk about it now.

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Speaker 1: The episode, Cliff hung with.

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Speaker 2: This moment that Gordon has something to say, and my spidy senses tell me that Gordon may be going through a health issue.

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: I just thinking he was gonna say he not the father.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, or or they're gonna they're not gonna go ahead with the divorce. My man with a lot of places. Now you went one place, I went another place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got the sense that there's something going on with his health. And I think Gordon and I think this is good. I think Gordon wants to be able to, you know, enjoy his life right now. He's he's an older gentleman like Ray. You know, Karen's husband. I think Karen's husband's like, I gave you a great life. I did everything for you. Now's my time to sit up watch family feud and and and and to enjoy you taking care of me. It's similar to when Rest in Peace Greg leaks.

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Speaker 1: Nimi felt the need and the.

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Speaker 2: Accomplishment of giving Greg everything his heart desired. When the roles were reversed, like she took pride in. I am going to do everything I can to give you a good life because you helped me get a good life too, and I think that's where Mia and Gordon's relationship may be going.

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Speaker 3: So do you think that me is going to continue to take care of him after the divorce is final?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Also, also I do, yeah, yeah, because if you love somebody, you should and I definitely would if I were her. So, I mean, everybody's situation different. It looked at it looks kind of sketchy from the outside, but you know, we can't really judge.

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Speaker 1: Hell, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He told us she could go out there.

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Speaker 1: She made some mistakes.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure in the past he probably made mistakes, you know, So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of mistakes, what did you think about the fact that Wendy and Candace both revealed that when Mia was going through her divorce, they did not reach out to her.

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Speaker 1: Mia said that she heard from the.

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Speaker 2: Other ladies and they gave her, you know, words of encouragement.

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Speaker 1: I feel sorry for you. If you need me, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Cannas and Wendy did not reach out to Mia, and Mia seemed disappointed. And I want to get your thoughts because look, I love doctor Wendy, I love Candace. I thought it was wrong that they did not at least send a text message. Let me tell you why, because at the end of the day, what we saw on the earlier parts of the season. Yes, Mia threw a drink at Wendy last season, but this season they made up and they were they were cool. Satane m cannas. Candace and Mia had issues two seasons ago, but they were able to to make up. So the fact that their husbands were a part of a group chat.

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Speaker 1: That Gordon started where they were where he was.

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Speaker 2: Dissing me, uh, I felt that at the end of the day, to me, I felt that Wendy and Candice should at least reach out to me and said, look, divorce is not something that we play with. I heard what's going on. We're not the best of friends. You have my condolences. That would have been the right thing to do. However, however, you don't know what kind of space these people are in. My own thing is on married to medicine. Were real friends, all these hoes really real friends.

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Speaker 3: They probably not okay, so okay off camera if I don't like you and we're really not friends and you're going through divorce and you basically, in my mad cheated on your hoods and you got a whole enough.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to you know what I mean, maybe they.

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Speaker 3: Felt like it was good that they got a divorce. You never know what space they are, so I'm not definitely say they should have reached out. And reality TV people love to say that, well, you know, I was going through something. I mean, if somebody died, yes, but a divorce, the divorce can be a reason for celebration. Honestly, it could be a good thing, sometimes usually with some own to see. So there definitely wasn't it was so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they might not have thought it was something bad.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what space they were in, and I love a lot of times were not people, not friends, and I don't think they should be held accountable to reach out to somebody they don't like.

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Speaker 1: Well then no, no, no, no. But that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: If it was Gazelle, then I would understand them more, right. I think the part that is confusing for some of the audience, and I am some of the audience, was the fact that we see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Trying to build a friendship, and you're right.

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Speaker 2: The problem with this show is the only real friends on the show, let's be real about it, is Robin and Gaselle. That's the only true friendship on the show. But one thing that I thought could have at least been suggested, especially because of this, and this is why I feel differently. At the end of the day, the husbands were on a group chat that was privy to the women, and Wendy and Kansas both said, girl, he was saying some very disparaging things about you. That's why for me, the human part of me would have said, me and this chick may not be best at friends, but as a woman, let me reach out to her saying, hey, I'm not trying to get involved. There's some crazy things happening. I wish nothing. You're in the best and that's just that. I thought an extension could have at least gone a long way.

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Speaker 3: One would have been nice. However, they didn't feel like it, so they didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do? I understand both sides.

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Speaker 3: I will say that sometimes you don't feel like reaching out to people, especially if you feel like, Okay, he spent disparaging things.

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Speaker 1: They probably agreed with it.

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Speaker 3: They probably didn't think, you know what I'm saying, if he said disparaging things about me, they probably I was like, yeah, yeah, I mean she got a whole baby.

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Speaker 1: They don't even know who the day is like. It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not saying one side is right or another, but I understand both sides. Sometimes we don't feel like reaching out it, so I don't if it's gonna be faking phony. And I'm just you know what I'm saying. And it looks like I'm trying to get in your business.

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Speaker 1: I might not. I can see why they didn't. That's me and.

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Speaker 2: You're saying the difference is on your show. You guys are real friends.

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Speaker 3: Most of us are friends, like you know what I mean, Like I might not hang out with Toya, but I love Toya, and I'm sure you know what I'm saying. It's the same. It's reciprocal, simone. You know, Jackie Quad, all of us are cool, like I mean, if something happened, we will be there for each other.

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Speaker 1: Not a new bitches. We don't know. You know what I'm saying. I'm cool with a little bit yeah and the other girl. But the five corps. We do care about each other. We have to.

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Speaker 3: It's been ten years I've been on Quad then before the show.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, speaking of which, I want to get into Giselle.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ja Yell has his reputation heavenly for being very harden, mean, emotional.

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Speaker 3: Lis'm not emotional intelligence like me. I mean, I've been accused of the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like, they don't say that she's she kind of harsh. Okay, she a kind of harsh girl.

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Speaker 1: She mean you think she has a lack of emotional intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like she's mean, Yes, yes, like she don't care.

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Speaker 1: Yes you think mean? I think that a lot of people would agree with me. Yes, okay, I heard. I mean, I'm not saying it. No bad give us a thing, and I'm being run now because you're my friend. I don't think you're mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so either, But I've been told that Phaeder told me I was mean. People say, I mean, I don't think. I mean, I think I speak the truth.

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Speaker 1: But Giselle facial thing, she's.

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Speaker 3: Mean a lot of people don't see themselves, okay, other people, and they don't see what they do, and they remember what everybody else did to them, But they don't remember what they did to anybody else, you know what I'm saying. So when they need to give an apology, they don't remember that. They didn't apologize for the funck shit they did.

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Speaker 1: So that's true. That's true. No, and that's the thing. So it brings me to Giselle.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you and I met Gazelle before in real life, and I said this time and time again. I think she's a great girl. I think she's a fun girl. I enjoy her. Giselle is sensitive and she doesn't like people talking about her on the show.

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Speaker 1: I talk about the show in her because I am honest, and.

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Speaker 3: I don't get that from her.

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Speaker 1: You think she is yeah, yeah, yeah, she's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a secret. She is sensitive. She's sensitive because looks. But I think Rain Johnson boobies. Let me know the good chat when when she gets critiqued, she doesn't take it well, you know, I mean like.

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Speaker 3: And they said that's evil. Giselle is truly mirrors her bull. Come come on now, y'all, Gaselle needs to be fired. Giselle is a Virgo Carlos, please, Gizelle is a gas lighter Giselle and I only had nothing good. Jaselle hosts grudges for life. Yes, Gazelle is mean, don't take up for her. Giselle is mean bully, A mean bully. She's always very insecure. I used to like her, but I don't. Robin needs well, they ain't gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Read the whole thing past. Gazelle is pure evil Jail.

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. I mean, I know here outside of the show, but people feel like on the show for what they're seeing, you says.

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Speaker 1: I view were I wasn't going.

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Speaker 3: You said she wasn't mean. I just asked the people what she and they.

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Speaker 2: Grew because listen, I okay, the Giselle I've met, I don't think she's mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know her. I don't think she is either, but yeah, I can get on TV. That's why I wanted to say.

00:27:09
Speaker 2: I think she's sensitive because she doesn't take criticism right, yo, I mean, and I.

00:27:14
Speaker 3: Mean it's Jase hell goddamn tell me with.

00:27:18
Speaker 1: You the rain drops.

00:27:19
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, rain Drops is heavenly. Who's mean heavenly? Or Gazelle is heavily.

00:27:26
Speaker 1: Mean as Jaselle.

00:27:28
Speaker 3: We probably are both somebody said no, I don't know if they talk about me, they taking No, you're just too blunt.

00:27:37
Speaker 1: Heavenly, you're just messy. I think you're messy.

00:27:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think he is.

00:27:42
Speaker 1: Good though for a TV show.

00:27:45
Speaker 2: Yes, you're not mean at all that you don't have a mean bone in your body.

00:27:49
Speaker 1: I'm just shit.

00:27:50
Speaker 3: Be funny, you know what I'm saying. I just think that shit. Yeah, to find humor in the ship, like, I think that's good. If you're on TV and.

00:27:56
Speaker 1: Somebody talking about something, I'm gonna find some humor in it.

00:28:00
Speaker 3: If somebody try to get up and whip my ass, I'm gonna tell Jackie because you told me she wasn't gonna do nothing.

00:28:04
Speaker 1: Sorry, ain't I thought that was funny? All right?

00:28:11
Speaker 2: Well, you guys have spoken loud and clear, so it breaks his hell.

00:28:15
Speaker 1: But not messy.

00:28:16
Speaker 3: If you're mean at times, mean is and messy black like you don't look heavenly messy. Jaselle just mean, Heavenly, very blunt and has no filter. Heavenly got raised her tongue, but she has a heart.

00:28:29
Speaker 1: Heavenly.

00:28:30
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Heavenly doesn't lie on people. Heavenly is funny a bit rude, heavenly is thirsty?

00:28:37
Speaker 1: Okay, love you have is mean?

00:28:43
Speaker 3: She just crazy?

00:28:46
Speaker 1: You tell the truth. Point, This is my point.

00:28:50
Speaker 2: I thought the most beautiful moment of Giselle's eight seasons on Potomac was doing parts of Reunion where she was vulnerable talking about her father.

00:29:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, I thought she.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: Never looked more beautiful and and and I was bringing this up to say this, that's the side of her that I think people want to see more of. Whereas it's unfortunate that we did not get a chance to really see these conversations happen, because this is the issue that I think a lot of people are having, and I.

00:29:29
Speaker 1: Think is the detriment to Gazelle.

00:29:31
Speaker 2: If I'm being very honest with you, you see you see these series of comments like she's mean, she's a bully, she's a mean girl, she's this, she's that. Well, I don't think Gazelle understands is you have to let people into your world. And you could be light heavily messy, you know what I'm saying. Or you could be blunt, you could be confrontational, you could bring up messy shit, you know, and and and laugh your way out of it. But in order for us to a staying that, you need to show us more of that beautiful side that we saw in the episode where she spoke about her father and and and what he meant to her. I thought, I thought that was so beautiful and it made me tear up. It made Candace of all people, tear up, right, because I think that stage, even Andy, who's been with her for eight seasons. I think even Andy was like, this is the woman that we all want to see, and we don't see it.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't show us one side.

00:30:35
Speaker 2: Of you and not expect people to call for your firing, to call you a mean girl, to call you a bully, because you're showing us one side. And I really do hope that we get to see more of those beautiful moments. I thought that was her best, best, best moment of vulnerability that I've ever seen on the show.

00:30:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that was truly beautiful. I think that everybody has that side to them. But sometimes we put up a wall, you know, And I'm guilty of the same thing, put up a wall. Sometimes we're hurting and we won't say it, you know what I'm saying. Sometime we're going through things that we won't say it. So, yeah, Jazanna's human. We all go through things, you know what I'm saying on camera off camera, So sometimes we put it out there, sometimes we don't. But when a death happens, and if somebody as close as your mother or your father, of course, you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel, you know, some kind of way about it.

00:31:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people, why y'all this?

00:31:30
Speaker 2: It mean y'all man callos, come to crab, don't shove Zel doll our throats.

00:31:35
Speaker 1: We wore her gone, we think.

00:31:37
Speaker 5: I mean, damn, did y'all.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: Not agree that that was a beautiful moment?

00:31:42
Speaker 2: I mean shit, she gave us five minutes of vulnerability?

00:31:47
Speaker 1: Does that not? Does it not mean anything?

00:31:51
Speaker 3: Chatty's people, I don't know what you say I did to these people, baby, I don't know, but yeah, I don't know.

00:31:56
Speaker 1: But you know, Jessell needs well, you know what.

00:32:00
Speaker 3: I can't even really talk about Jasella because I think that I'm kind of mean sometimes too, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes I say things that I mean, but that's just because if you hurt my feeling, I'm trying to rip your throat out, you know, what I'm saying. So I don't respond like, oh, you hurt my feelings in crying like Canda does.

00:32:14
Speaker 1: I'd come for.

00:32:14
Speaker 3: The jugular and that's not good either. You see what I'm saying. So maybe that's how Gazelle is, you.

00:32:19
Speaker 2: Know, And you know, what do you make of this relationship that she had with the guy from Summer House named Jason and how a picture came out of him with a blond woman. And by blond, I mean she's Caucasian, and allegedly people are saying that's his type. And she said that, you know, she's not out here I'm paraphrasing, but she's not out here chasing no man or looking at what he's doing. Did you believe that that relationship between her and Jason was real?

00:32:58
Speaker 3: I think they had something. You know, how serious it was, I don't know, but I think they had something. I think Gazelle is a beautiful girl. You know, I always think of Jazelle when she says that she was in con I think she was probably a brad Brother Tucker when she was in concause she s.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: Her college modos.

00:33:12
Speaker 3: I have seen some of them, but I'm saying she's absolutely gorgeous now, so at fifty something, she had to be a bad beat back then.

00:33:21
Speaker 1: But to me, okay, I'm looking at that.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: Well, let me hush. I'm saying, Okay, hear what you gonna say. I'm looking at her ex husband. You know what I mean, him cheating on her. I'm like, girl, you too pretty for that.

00:33:31
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know.

00:33:33
Speaker 3: Don't you don't even know what's going on inside people that they allow certain things to happen. But I'm just saying, like, to me, I thought she could have did you know better. I'm just saying I think Gazelle is pretty. I don't know about this relationship, you know. Talking to Apollo, he said that he has a thirst for any a lot of different type of women, some of them dark, some of them light so black, light, skin, white, whatever. Sometimes they just like different kind of women. Jaselle, I mean, y'all getting that color of stuff. I'm still taking her back by.

00:34:06
Speaker 2: That, because, yeah, I want to hear thought some that I gotta do some real quick go ahead on house.

00:34:11
Speaker 3: You know you want me to hold off or you want me to Okay, Now, I think the colors thing has validity because I think that sometimes it's drummed in our heads, especially the darker girls, because I remember my sister being lighter than me, and the colorless thing was a big thing because my mom was older, like she had me, almost forty so when she died she was eighty nine, so she was at a generation where a light skin and black skin, dark dark skinned and light skin were pitted against each other. So colorism is a real thing. I don't think the newer, the younger people realize it, but it was really something real back in the day. That is Jasella Colors. I don't know, however, she know bad it. She's at the age where they were doing it. So yeah, no, so.

00:34:52
Speaker 2: Let's let let's go with the Colors conversation because my thing is this and I said this last season and I'll say it again. Two things can be true at the same time. Right, colorism still exists today. Right, it's still prevalent, and this is this is this is how I feel about it, and I'm gonna keep it all the way real and I have in the past.

00:35:17
Speaker 1: And so they say nothing new.

00:35:20
Speaker 2: When you are privileged enough to be on a show that is seen predominantly by white people, and you have.

00:35:31
Speaker 1: The opportunity to educate the.

00:35:34
Speaker 2: Masses on an issue that affects a black community. This is this is not an issue that affected us in the fifties, sixties, or seventies. It affects us today. Colorism is real, it still exists, and it's something that a lot of people aren't educated about. I was having a conversation on former Beverly Hills housewife Teddy Mellencamp about colorism because she didn't know anything about it.

00:36:03
Speaker 1: She never heard of it.

00:36:04
Speaker 2: She's clueless to what colorism is.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: And she asked me after watching.

00:36:09
Speaker 2: The show, can you explain it to me? And I thought to myself, doctor Heavily, how unfortunate that you guys have this platform as black women to say, Look, we could throw shade about the husband's a dark penis, a nel salon, a hookup, or a laundrymat.

00:36:32
Speaker 1: Lay down, right, we gonna talk about all those things.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: But we have a responsibility as black women to at least put our petty issues aside, to give the audience at least ten minutes of a discourse about a topic so that they can be educated.

00:36:51
Speaker 1: And I think that's dropped on that.

00:36:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they dropped the ball on that because they did not want to have the tough conversations. And like I said before, going to an HBCU doesn't mean that all of a sudden, you don't need to talk about the issues today.

00:37:08
Speaker 1: I agree.

00:37:09
Speaker 2: You know, being black has no expiration day. Your blackness doesn't disappear because you got a degree from an HBCU.

00:37:17
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:37:19
Speaker 2: Your blackness doesn't erase because you're not making seven figures and you hate this person so much that you're not even able to say, let's have a conversation about it. And one thing doctor Wendy did say that I agree with is this, some of those women do not have the range to have the conversation, and that was shown.

00:37:42
Speaker 1: At that Really absolutely absolutely they don't. They don't.

00:37:46
Speaker 3: They don't know what what it's like to feel okay, dark skin, light skin, And they're taking a fense almost as if it's saying white or black, like with Giselle and the other girl what's her name of Robin that can because they're light skin, they're offended, Like to me, this bullshit, I really don't feel like they offended. I think that they just don't want to address it. I think that their colorism is real, you know. I think that Wendy and definitely can this, probably has felt have felt it. It is a privilege when you're used to be still is lighter. Lighter, lighter women can get by, you know. So it's something that we should be able to talk about in real time, in a real way. Then, yeah, you do have privileges because you're lighter in some sense in instances for sure.

00:38:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

00:38:28
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go a little further than this season one reunion.

00:38:32
Speaker 1: So one of my rain.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: Drops, high rain drops, I'm sorry I forgot your name, but thank you baby for sending me this heavenly and I should have sent you this Headlen some of my bad One of my rain drops sent me a clip a Part one reunion, Part one Season one Potomac Reunion. Giselle had a very deep conversation with cassmate Katie about blackness because Katie was saying, and again I'm paraphrasing, but Katie was pretty much as saying, how you know she identifies as something else? And Gazelle spoke so proudly of, you know, being from a generation of people like her dad, may he rest in peace and his parents to really talk about the issues affecting us and how they fought for our rights, like they had this discourse season one reunion. Yeah, so she's capable of having the conversation season one. So seven years later, I don't understand why that same conversation could not be held.

00:39:41
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm gonna say.

00:39:42
Speaker 3: Even more so, she was on the defense, so she didn't want to go into it, you know, for Jaselle because there was she was accused of that. But yeah, you know, it is a tough conversation and I feel like, you know a lot of people don't want to have it, especially if you looked at the person this, this, that that has the negative side of it. You so, Jasea, they didn't want to They didn't want to embellish on that. They didn't want to talk about that.

00:40:04
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, it was it was a missed opportunity and I and I think for me, it's one of those things where this show is, this show has so much potential heavenly to be a smart, funny show because listen, you can say what you want about Atlanta Housewives goes Ontlanta.

00:40:29
Speaker 1: Women did so well.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: They had tough conversations and they were able to at least talk about it. I remember when Nimi and Porscha had a conversation about Porsche getting into somebody, and Nimi talked to Porsche about at the reunion and Porsche checked her and Nini checked, you know what I mean. But they had the conversation right just about like what was going on that season, and I feel like what's missing is women having right.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: They did not have a heated discuss like there's nobody that's taking aside on either side.

00:41:03
Speaker 1: That's what I see. I didn't see these discussions at all, you know what I mean.

00:41:07
Speaker 3: It was almost like everybody was trying to defend or defend what they said, but nobody really gave.

00:41:12
Speaker 1: The pushback that they should have.

00:41:14
Speaker 2: In my opinion, No, I agree, And the only pushback that was given, honestly was Chris Bassett.

00:41:20
Speaker 1: Chris Bassett is an MVP. I love, let's talk about it. Heamily.

00:41:24
Speaker 2: I love the fact that he stood on business right. He was respectful, he was very respectful. He made a whole lot of sense, and the fact that he sat up there and said, I talked about this last season.

00:41:42
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it again. They feel how they feel, I feel how I feel.

00:41:47
Speaker 2: Next question. And I loved that because listen, I said this to you last week.

00:41:52
Speaker 1: Heavily.

00:41:53
Speaker 2: Chris had to go through losing jobs.

00:41:59
Speaker 1: That's what he said. I didn't say it, he said it, So.

00:42:01
Speaker 2: I'll say alleged allegedly he was losing jobs because of what was being said about him last season. So to see him still show up, yeah, yeah for his wife knowing that his whole world flipped upside down because of what was being said about him. You see what I'm saying, And the one thing I did, I like it.

00:42:27
Speaker 1: I'm be real.

00:42:29
Speaker 2: Robin looked a little bit too excited, a little too thrilled, to bring up, well, do they not known each other? She's you know this woman because a woman heavenly alleged that she got pregnant by Chris Bassett and that he told her to have an abortion. And Robin took the position of being Andy's co host and started to ask questions about this a leged affair.

00:43:02
Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, Rob, Robbie, Robie got too much going on to push it.

00:43:06
Speaker 3: Any Yeah, your man, but there's company. Misery loves company. She would love to see somebody going through some of the things that she's going through. You know what I'm saying. I just don't believe any of it. My old thing is be the man like Chris that I don't believe any of that's true. Whether it's true or not, I don't know. We could never find.

00:43:26
Speaker 1: Out if it's true. But I don't believe it.

00:43:28
Speaker 3: I don't think that Chris goes around cheating on He just don't give that vibe.

00:43:32
Speaker 1: But Wan, does you know what I'm saying?

00:43:34
Speaker 2: Well, wand listen and heavenly Wan was caught on camera on how Mike's saying, I'm tired of her. I can't wait to get out of here. You know those words came out.

00:43:48
Speaker 1: Of his mouth. And look, if you are okay with your man cheating on you, I don't. It does nothing to.

00:43:54
Speaker 3: Me when he say just do it respectfully. Then she said that with you just.

00:44:00
Speaker 1: Listen. But but but I wish Robin would say this.

00:44:05
Speaker 2: You can't sit up there and interrogate another woman, another woman's husband about what he allegedly did.

00:44:13
Speaker 1: When your husband even come your husband even become there.

00:44:17
Speaker 2: We don't know if he's at the laundromat putting four quarters in the slot machine to buy you know, chlorox or condoms.

00:44:26
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on at the laundromat.

00:44:28
Speaker 2: We don't know if the dryer is shaking because there's too many jeans in it, or somebody's humping on top of it.

00:44:36
Speaker 1: These are things we just not sure of.

00:44:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Roby wasn't the one that had that conversation, just like, you know what, I can make comparisons, but I ain't always compared stuff that I showed.

00:44:45
Speaker 1: But then maybe I don't know.

00:44:46
Speaker 3: People like that comparison talk about being canceled, like I would not want her to talk about that, Like to me, that was something that somebody else should have done, Like we should have conversations and somebody that's qualified, like maybe Karen could have talked about it, or somebody who was in a good relationship, but not not Robin.

00:45:02
Speaker 1: Robin, please hush, please be quiet, Please.

00:45:04
Speaker 3: Get somebody else to do it. Don't question nobody's husband when your husband not here at all. And Chris seems like a great guy. He just seems like a nice, likable guy, and they seem like they're generally in love. So I don't believe anything about no baby, none of that. So y'all go to hell with that With me, I don't believe it.

00:45:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is what I would love for Robin and you and I, I think will agree on this heavily. I will love for Robin to say, leave me the fuck alone. I'm gonna stick beside him. That's my man. You ain't gotta deal with him. He is who I've chosen to be with forever, and I want to talk about it.

00:45:42
Speaker 3: I think it should have said that she has said that, because to me, I thought she should have been said that, right.

00:45:48
Speaker 2: The only thing she has said was I don't care. And it's sort of like, if that's your position, fine. Have you asked Chris Bassett more questions after reunion? Then you act wan all eight seasons of us watching your.

00:46:04
Speaker 1: Reality Absolutely.

00:46:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of a sudden, you're giving me judge Mabelene interrogating Chris Bassett. But when you are talking to your husband, you act like weezy on the Jeffersons, and you took measy, worried about whether or not he is going to take the kids to school, like, that's why it was so confusing to me. And I think that's the reason why. Look, I like Robin. I know you guys don't think I do, but I do.

00:46:31
Speaker 1: I like she's a really sweet girl. I know her, she's really sweet. Yeah, Robin is a sweetheart.

00:46:37
Speaker 3: But you can't really talk about nobody or question nobody, mean, when the shit you're going through, there's just not you know.

00:46:43
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay.

00:46:45
Speaker 2: So then towards the end of the reunion, heavenly we have to get into this part that I couldn't wait to talk to you about. So Gordon comes out, all the men on the stage, and there were conversations about how Mia would go to the Dominican Republic with.

00:47:14
Speaker 3: Brother Tucker and I'm not doing it with you.

00:47:16
Speaker 1: I I.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: Everycapping part two of the Real Housewives of a.

00:47:25
Speaker 1: Tombic Reunion go ahead though, Okay, so Mia said, the rape doesn't go there. Okay.

00:47:34
Speaker 2: So Mia had a conversation about how when she would go to the Dominican Republic with Gordon, she would go with Gordon as his girlfriend while he was married, and she was saying how when she would go there, a lot of the married men would go to the d R with their girlfriends, and when she got married to Gordon, it felt different because now she is a married woman knowing that her husband took her on these trips with his boys and they side checks and it doesn't feel good like it did back in the day.

00:48:13
Speaker 1: What did you think about that?

00:48:18
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of people go to the DR for different reasons. Some of them go to cheats, some of them go to have a good time. It depends on who you are. I do know for a fact that there's a lot of cheating that going into DR. I know there's beautiful women, and I've heard that those women are very very very very cheap and very very very very easy, and they're beautiful and they do a great job for the money.

00:48:39
Speaker 1: I heard that.

00:48:40
Speaker 3: So I mean to me, if you go on the Dominican, you shouldn't bring your girlfriend because there's plenty of holes right there, so you gonna go to Dominican. My other thing is that it's so inconspicuous in the Dominican. Like the women are there at the parties, they're just around, but you don't ever have to be seen with them.

00:48:59
Speaker 1: You go back to the room and they'll wait on you. In the room.

00:49:01
Speaker 3: It's not like you could get caught, like you would have to want to get caught. And the women don't know who you are. They don't care who you are. All they want is they brother tooking money. So DR is a great place to go if you want to hold around it is.

00:49:13
Speaker 1: It just is. That's just known.

00:49:14
Speaker 3: However, it's a great base to invest as well. So I can understand why some of the husbands go down and invest their money and buying real estate down there, because it's a lot of traction coming for the people that's coming on traffic.

00:49:26
Speaker 1: A lot of traction coming.

00:49:29
Speaker 3: I thought you said for the hose. I'm not saying that they going down there for the hole. They going down there where they know the hoes be at, so they can get some real estate so that we can airbnb it. So we know it's a great place to make money.

00:49:44
Speaker 1: That's it. They happy.

00:49:47
Speaker 2: So I heard from somebody, Okay, so I don't want to call her mouth. So all to say is this, I have a friend who is a hetero sexual black man. Okay, okay, he recently went to the d R with his boys.

00:50:08
Speaker 1: This is a true story. Tell me you saw none of my kids. Mates, I don't want to hear it.

00:50:13
Speaker 3: If you heard something and don't bring it out here, first of all, because I'm gonna curse you out.

00:50:19
Speaker 1: I really am.

00:50:22
Speaker 3: This not that, So take that back if that's what you're about to do.

00:50:25
Speaker 1: What I don't know.

00:50:28
Speaker 3: I don't know, but going down to Roe Lane and Okay.

00:50:33
Speaker 2: I want to have a real conversation with my Okay, so he is a hero sexual black man.

00:50:40
Speaker 1: He goes to Columbia and the d R. Whatever.

00:50:45
Speaker 2: Now he did say to me what you said? Because I asked him. I said, what is the attraction in the d R. I would like to know? And he said, well, low key even for you. You know on the gays. There's a lot of action for you guys too.

00:50:59
Speaker 1: But let me stick with him. Pause. He said that.

00:51:05
Speaker 2: He and his boys would go out there and it was easy for them to get women because they're not that expensive. And I asked them, how much do they charge to turn a trick? He said twenty dollars.

00:51:21
Speaker 1: I said thirty, but ye had twenty.

00:51:23
Speaker 3: Okay, I said twenty dollars to turn a trick, Give me five of them. You know what I'm saying, Like, you can come down there and just clean up right five I was at one.

00:51:32
Speaker 1: Time, and what was crazy? Heavinly.

00:51:36
Speaker 2: He said the women are beautiful. He said they don't look worn out. He said it was very easy, and that he may go out there three months.

00:51:46
Speaker 3: Later and they have a good time and they down for whatever, front, backside, suck whatever. They do it all baby, and they happy to do it like they ain't even acting up.

00:51:58
Speaker 1: You know how we be doing a.

00:52:00
Speaker 3: To do this, it'd be like, yeah, woman, I had.

00:52:04
Speaker 1: To do it.

00:52:04
Speaker 3: The Minican got it going on. That's why I'm well. I start seeing my man can't go down there. But he can't. I mean, not my man, k but you know, but people do for investments sake. So y'all saw that Jackie down there. She checked it out and it's okay, that's all I'm telling. She let y'all know that there is some property being born, okay, and we got investments in dr okay.

00:52:26
Speaker 1: So now I think it no. So that was the thing.

00:52:30
Speaker 2: So listen, I wanted to bring this up before I let you go in terms of.

00:52:36
Speaker 1: Our friend doctor Jackie. Hi, doctor jack y'all love you.

00:52:39
Speaker 2: So doctor Jackie went to the dr with Curtis and she looked gorgeous.

00:52:47
Speaker 1: Her caption was Heavily in our quote, Well, well, well.

00:52:53
Speaker 2: I finally made it down to the Dr Dominican Republic to see what's going on. Only a little work for me, then I'm gonna relax, restore, and reset and enjoyed the wedding for our nephew and welcome our new needs. I thought that was sweet, because the thing is this, I know that doctor Jackie watches Messie Monday, and I took that as a fun way of saying hi, doctor Heavily at Carlos, did you take that?

00:53:25
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was a class he read like. I went down here to see what the hell going on? First of all, man, your brother tucking Bee is the second of all this mass shit and whatever I.

00:53:33
Speaker 1: Want to do.

00:53:34
Speaker 3: But let me show you the property he's getting. So I'm making money down here too, so what And now I'm gonna do a little work and I'm a resting relax. So why I'm making my money over here? He might be doing whatever, but he making money. Okay, That's all that mattered.

00:53:49
Speaker 1: I found about sweet.

00:53:50
Speaker 2: I told Doctor Jackie and the Captain, I said, next time, invite me because I would love so listen, me and doctor Heavily are going to do a live messy Monday in the Dominican.

00:54:02
Speaker 3: Republican Dominican and we're gonna find some hose and bring it. They will do it for twenty dollars. Girl, I give you forty dollars. Let's take what goes down in the DM Boopy.

00:54:15
Speaker 1: So raand Johnson Boo.

00:54:17
Speaker 2: Me and doctor Heavily are going to do a live messy Monday.

00:54:20
Speaker 1: If a dr treat it's a cheap flight too.

00:54:23
Speaker 3: If the flight don't cost nothing, the holes don't cost nothing. I mean, it's just easy all around. Dominican is just a place that men go. I remember my husband, they used to have they frad Not saying that the fraternity people be doing nothing, but I'm just saying they fraternity people be going down there to the Dominican. They go every year, every year, they go every year the Dominican or Colombia or somewhere. But all at Brazil, all the beautiful women and and horrne is a profession now there ain't. It ain't frowned upon. It's almost like it's not frowned upon, you.

00:54:57
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Like here, you know you a whore.

00:54:59
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta have you know, whatever it might be, you know, a negative connotation with it, A who is a probably good job, you know what I'm saying. Somebody won't you and they pay for it. Perception of what you believe, Okay, all you believe. Remember when you started moving the movie with the Asian women, they used to call themselves Geesha.

00:55:27
Speaker 1: Geisha you know what I'm saying.

00:55:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Geishas were proud, but they were horse but they were proud horse like. They had to go through something and they had to sell their virginity and it was just something, you know, very good like it was looking at It's all about.

00:55:40
Speaker 1: How you want to see it.

00:55:42
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna see it. So we are going to the d r H. We would love for our live show to be at one of Curtis Resorts.

00:55:51
Speaker 1: Yeah promoted.

00:55:53
Speaker 2: Yes, we would love to see that. So we're gonna go on a tour a Curtis resort.

00:55:59
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We might invest in some of the properties down there. Yes, it's a lot of money.

00:56:06
Speaker 1: To be Will you invest in other things down there too? I'm not gonna buy, no me.

00:56:12
Speaker 3: Just that mean for sale because you stay on the gate side. So there gotta be some men down there for the heterosexual women, right.

00:56:22
Speaker 4: Allegedly, there's a lot going on over there in every capacity.

00:56:26
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yes, yes, Okay, So you guys got that.

00:56:29
Speaker 1: So before I let you go Heavily, we've got some super chats to read. Okay, let's do it.

00:56:33
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, Carlos, can you interview Mia and Monica? We also need a doctor Heavily interview. I've been giving y'all Doctor Heley interviews for four months.

00:56:44
Speaker 3: I dad had interviews with you one on one from the very beginning.

00:56:47
Speaker 1: You started with me, I would have my season one of my podcasts.

00:56:51
Speaker 2: But no, Me and Heavily gonna take something to the next level, So stay tuned for that.

00:56:57
Speaker 1: Stephanie Loki my glasses.

00:57:01
Speaker 3: She should have reached out to Giselle and shows and showed some empathy and that could have been an olive branch, not comparing the death to her dad to the insults to her mom.

00:57:12
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

00:57:16
Speaker 2: October, Janey Noah gave Candas a call that they were talking Chris last season. They owe me a nothing, Okay.

00:57:29
Speaker 3: Giselle is the popular Black housewife. Popular might be least liked, but don't say least popular because she's known.

00:57:38
Speaker 2: But man, I wouldn't say she's the least popular. Gill is very popular.

00:57:44
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to say least like. But yeah, okay, another one for you, Heaven your sake. Compared to Josell, I miss this. What does she be doing you one?

00:57:59
Speaker 3: Here's the difference, having to keep sit going for sake of the show. Isn't that obvious? Gizelle tries to destroy lives for the sake of herself. That's a great analogy.

00:58:13
Speaker 1: Is yet, Dylla. I don't know what Jazelle does. I know what I do.

00:58:18
Speaker 3: Jaselle has an element that is needed.

00:58:20
Speaker 1: I believe that to be true.

00:58:21
Speaker 3: Giselle is and I don't care attitude and I love it. See see she don't give a damn mh. We can tell you you're going, Carlos. Giselle is mean, condescending, liar, hateful, and does not care about people's relationship. Example, Monique Wendy Candace.

00:58:43
Speaker 2: Beatrice said, these people are as heartless as they say. Giselle is she lost her dad, give her a moment. Giselle kid is dark skin, so how is she a color? Rest Giselle kid is not dark skin.

00:58:57
Speaker 3: I mean, I know the three girls, the twins and the way to go to family with a laurel.

00:59:01
Speaker 1: They're not dark skinned. They light Yeah. The two are probably brown.

00:59:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all light skinning me all they want to know heavily, how did you explain colorism to your kids? And how do you think it affects Wendy's kids to see how their chocolate mother is being treated.

00:59:19
Speaker 1: You know what, I never really had an issue with colorism, you know what I'm saying.

00:59:22
Speaker 3: You know, I know my mom, you know, but I never really had a problem for my kids because my kids are kind of I don't know my kids a car mail like we I think the colors comes when you're dark dark or you're light light. We in between, and I you know, I never really had that conversation, so never felt the need to have it.

00:59:39
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00:59:50
Speaker 3: Doctor Heavenly. Okay, skim Post. Where did you send it? Did you send it to my office? You got my office address? Smocks by Doctor heaven It. I'll definitely check it out skin potion.

01:00:02
Speaker 2: And this is the last one from Beatrice Carlos.

01:00:06
Speaker 1: You really need to have a.

01:00:07
Speaker 2: Conversation with Giselle, please, she needs to know what she's doing wrong.

01:00:13
Speaker 1: Jose for a one on one?

01:00:15
Speaker 3: You said, what have you reached out to Jazelle for a one on one interview? Madri turned you down, Sweet Tee turned you down. That Jackie ain't gonna do it. I never, I never for I want you to come out. You said what nothing when you said you would love to interview her?

01:00:41
Speaker 1: You said that online before I said about who get But I didn't formally reached out to Pa to get a turn down. You knew better I'm gonna do it, So that said. That's it. That's it.

01:00:57
Speaker 2: No. I interviewed Gazelle one on one my first season of the podcast.

01:01:03
Speaker 1: We had a one on one. Listen. I would love to.

01:01:07
Speaker 2: Interview all the girls because you know, I love all the girls. I will say this though, I'll say this a lot of people when it comes to my podcast, and when it comes to some of the girls, you know, some of them, not all some of them. They are Listen, I ask real questions. I'm not there to talk about how.

01:01:32
Speaker 1: Cute your your your.

01:01:33
Speaker 2: Hair look and and that's no shade to people who do My podcast is successful because I ask the question that the fans want to know, and I do it in a very delicate way, but I'm going to ask the question. And I think a lot of them are afraid, yeah, because they don't want to answer questions that the people want to know. Because with me, you're not going to say yes to my interview and then give me directions of what I can and can I ask. You can go over there, you know what I'm saying and do it elsewhere. I want to make sure that we have a real conversation and I would love to have a one on one with Jazelle, but it hasn't happened since last season.

01:02:18
Speaker 1: I would like to.

01:02:19
Speaker 3: Say this, I don't know what you all think you know, and I watched some of the shows. I haven't seen all of it to see all of the depictions of Jazelle, but I'm saying it's good and bad on everybody certain seasons. I be mean, you know, it's all about what role you have to play. For me, I think this is my personal opinion college and you can tell me whatever you cast it as that's who you are. Jackie will be the professional one even when she fucks up, they don't show it, you know what I'm saying. Heavenly will be that messy bitch, funny bitch, which ain't a bad I'm not mad at it, you know what I'm saying. I feel like it's a good position to play. But Gazelle probably will always be that mean girl because that's who she started out with. I'm gonna tell you that. To me, I know her personally, She's not mean, you know what I'm saying. But I don't think she gives a damn on what positions she plays the show, and she's going to do what she does.

01:03:03
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just think it's good and bad in everybody.

01:03:06
Speaker 3: So I say give everybody some grace, right because Martin, I don't be looking too good on your show either, do it?

01:03:11
Speaker 1: No and listen it's what you said, too bad dude, Right? He ain't horrible? Like?

01:03:16
Speaker 2: Is he like?

01:03:17
Speaker 1: He looks horrible? Look?

01:03:19
Speaker 2: I think one of thing about reality television, and you know this, being on it for as long as you have, people love to blame editing and.

01:03:26
Speaker 1: I will always call about a crocod shit. No one can't edit your behavior. No one can edit what comes out of your mouth.

01:03:32
Speaker 2: No one can edit a cry, no one can edit someone yelling like no one can edit you to look a certain way. And no one and I want to say this, no one has the time to do that. Do you honestly think we have time to look at footage and say, ah, make her look like this.

01:03:55
Speaker 3: We do do cute little things, like do you know what I mean? They do cute little things whatever.

01:04:00
Speaker 2: I know. But but to me, let's be real, if they do kill little things that's in an episode or two, there's no one. You can't added someone to look like a certain way for an entire season.

01:04:11
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. That's that's that's crazy.

01:04:15
Speaker 2: You and and you only are going to give them what they can work with. So whatever they work with, you gave it to them. At the end of the day, you gave.

01:04:25
Speaker 1: It to them.

01:04:26
Speaker 2: So I think the problem is a lot of people do one or two things. They allow themselves to be censored because they're afraid of social media, or they feel like they shit doesn't stink, and they refuse to be accountable for their actions.

01:04:47
Speaker 1: So to me, that's what happens. Okay, my last question. Oh by the way, she said this to you, Heavenly.

01:04:55
Speaker 3: Okay, you shoot at your my office. Okay, Skip, you're just giving out one hundred dollars. Okay, they're beautiful. She can't Are you single?

01:05:02
Speaker 1: Are you well? Because what kind of potion you got? Girl? Is that a girl? Okay? Let us know, let us know, baby, you turn off this lab.

01:05:13
Speaker 3: I got two questions for you. So when you stop this laugh, don't don't leave colos. I got a question for you.

01:05:18
Speaker 1: Okay, So last, this is the last one. I mean, I don't know.

01:05:24
Speaker 3: About this season, but to me, all the season eight seasons, I think she would be missed.

01:05:28
Speaker 1: I do so. The question, guys were from Leslie P.

01:05:32
Speaker 2: Do you guys think Gizelle would be missed by the fans if she is gone? She really did not bring much this season. I let me know what y'all think. Boobies and rain drops. I'll say this. I'll say this, Giselle is needed for the show. However, j just Zell is going to have to give us something new. I think I think for eight seasons, we want to see growth, right. We saw growth with you, Heavenly, we saw growth with Nini leaks. We saw growth with Porsche. You want to see growth, and my hope is that we get to see something real because even she said, like she's dating somebody and she didn't want to talk about it, and it's like, I don't know how much a person can stay on the show if they have this whole other life that we're not capturing. And I think, never think you are irreplaceable. There's always somebody who can replace you, and you should always want to give your best to anything you're doing.

01:06:57
Speaker 3: That's what I try to do every every scene. I try to do it, but I try to get a host a chance first.

01:07:07
Speaker 1: It's at of funny to do.

01:07:08
Speaker 3: So God is good. But yeah, it's been a great episode. They had three parts to the reunion, so next we will be next.

01:07:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, so next week is part three, So we'll be back next Monday for a part three Potomac reunion. What Gordon has to say, so what Dice said, What Gordon has to say, and then who knows. There may be something happening in the world of reality that we'll talk about. And I think next week I may have something else special for Doctor Heavely, But we'll see Okay, there's a good talk about that too, so boopies and rain drops. Don't forget to like and subscribe to me and Doctor Heavily's YouTube channel. Okay, subscribe to a like it and we will see y'all next Monday.

01:07:49
Speaker 3: Bye y'all, bye, right, turn it off.

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