Keith David (Gargoyles, Spawn, The Princess and The Frog)

<v Speaker 1>How you doing out there? It's me Tigger. I am
<v Speaker 1>Duc Winging Duck. It's me Bunkers Keith, Bobcat. All right, y'all,
<v Speaker 1>did it ring your favorite firefly you desire? Hold the
<v Speaker 1>old knock gud. My name is Jim Cummings and welcome
<v Speaker 1>to tuned In.
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to everybody to another episode of Tuned In
<v Speaker 2>with Jim Cummings. Today we have a very special guest,
<v Speaker 2>you know him, Award winning actor, voice actor, just all
<v Speaker 2>around incredible person, Keith David.
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for being here today, amen.
<v Speaker 1>I am happy to be here. Thank you very very
<v Speaker 1>much for being here today. We're worried about it was
<v Speaker 1>touch and go then I just just for what it's worth.
<v Speaker 1>We were kind of doing a little work here earlier. Today,
<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing the same shirt. Oh well uh, and I thought, wow,
<v Speaker 1>that's too bad, Keith not look Keith's here. So it
<v Speaker 1>was like I was. It was Christmas man. I'm so
<v Speaker 1>glad you're here. Thanks, amen. You know, timing is everything, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, well a lot of timed out. Yeah. I've
<v Speaker 1>been going through your resume in my head and I'm
<v Speaker 1>trying to think the first thing that I saw you
<v Speaker 1>in because you've done so many incredible roles over the years. Man,
<v Speaker 1>And I think it was the thing. The thing was
<v Speaker 1>my first movie that explains it.
<v Speaker 4>That's a good callow really. Yeah, I had. I had
<v Speaker 4>prior to the thing when they were shooting Roots to
<v Speaker 4>the Second Generation. Yes, I came out to audition for
<v Speaker 4>Alex Haley before.
<v Speaker 1>James L. Jones became ant. Yes I didn't get it.
<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, but they you know, Ruben Cannon, he liked me,
<v Speaker 4>and so he kept me on as one of Professor
<v Speaker 4>Haley's students. You do, so you you you know. I
<v Speaker 4>know I was in the scene because I know what
<v Speaker 4>I did. The only the only thing you see of
<v Speaker 4>me in that movie is from the neck to the
<v Speaker 4>waist wipe the camera, so.
<v Speaker 1>From the neck up, but from the next way, No,
<v Speaker 1>that was you. It was so funny because all my
<v Speaker 1>mother's friends were like.
<v Speaker 4>I saw you, I saw you, you know, And I'm like, no,
<v Speaker 4>you didn't, you know, because I don't even think. I
<v Speaker 4>don't even think I made it in the wide m damn,
<v Speaker 4>because the way they cut it, I might have been
<v Speaker 4>in a wide shot, but I think that they you know.
<v Speaker 4>But but like I said, I know it was me,
<v Speaker 4>because when the students were being dismissed, I do get
<v Speaker 4>to say like something like Professor Haley, but that's happening
<v Speaker 4>in the background as.
<v Speaker 1>People are sweeping past. So and I know that was me. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's right.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, listen, you know what was great about it?
<v Speaker 4>It had to be it had to be a Friday
<v Speaker 4>because first of it, they put me in a single banger,
<v Speaker 4>so I had my whole trailer to myself and I
<v Speaker 4>was just I was just a guest offer that my
<v Speaker 4>first job, and that afternoon for lunch was shrimp and
<v Speaker 4>lobster and steak.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm like, okay, I want to do
<v Speaker 1>this all the time. Yeah, that's what I was just thinking.
<v Speaker 1>We could do this again.
<v Speaker 4>You now, I could also count on the fingers of
<v Speaker 4>one hand how many times that happened again.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Similar.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, hey, you know it's so funny because
<v Speaker 4>I can't think of his name right this second, but
<v Speaker 4>he Steven Spielberg. It was a great, great, great actor
<v Speaker 4>that I had great admiration for.
<v Speaker 1>And he had one leg.
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't Captain Hook, No, he was. He was on
<v Speaker 4>a movie with me and he and they were in it.
<v Speaker 4>They were in him and a couple other guys were
<v Speaker 4>in a triple banger, and I thought, you know, that
<v Speaker 4>seems incongruous. But you know, you take the job. You
<v Speaker 4>do what you do. Sometimes it comes with the deal.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, if you're fortunate enough, if you
<v Speaker 4>know to get the same thing all the time and
<v Speaker 4>get that single thing, that's well, that's your business. That's
<v Speaker 4>your deal. But the work is the most important thing.
<v Speaker 4>And you know, first of all, how much time do
<v Speaker 4>you spend in there anyways?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Minimum, Yeah, it's all just so it's not it's not
<v Speaker 4>really about that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just about the level of respect and such
<v Speaker 1>as that.
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I mean, yeah, yes, you know, I've
<v Speaker 4>seen that. It's like it's like when you go and
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you've had the experience where you know actors
<v Speaker 4>who you've admired your whole life and suddenly you're at
<v Speaker 4>an audition and they're there and it's like, what am
<v Speaker 4>I doing? Why am I here? Because I know if
<v Speaker 4>he's up for the gig, I ain't getting this job,
<v Speaker 4>you know.
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes you do, Yeah, you know, sometimes you do.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you do. I mean, I I you know, I
<v Speaker 1>was Norman Rose. I don't know if you remember who
<v Speaker 1>he is.
<v Speaker 4>Was one of my teachers and and he was one
<v Speaker 4>of the things you said is I'm training you, guys
<v Speaker 4>to one of these days, I'm going to see you
<v Speaker 4>at an audition and you better be good. And uh uh,
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>One of the one of.
<v Speaker 4>The one of the greatest compliments that I ever got
<v Speaker 4>in life. I was doing. It was my first real
<v Speaker 4>big animated gig. Gargoyles. Oh yes, Goliath, Goliath and Ed,
<v Speaker 4>that's my main guy. Ed and Norman Rose were best friends.
<v Speaker 4>And I told him that I that I studied with
<v Speaker 4>Norman and one day he walked up to me and
<v Speaker 4>he says, Norman would be proudly.
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, I'm like, you know, that's nothing. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. Yeah, take that to the bank, as they say, right, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>good old Ed. Yeah. He was an old buddy of mine.
<v Speaker 1>He was cantankeris fella great dude, I mean, yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>remember we we did. He he played Santa Claus and
<v Speaker 1>and over the years, while you sing so you get it,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times they'll ask me to pinch hit
<v Speaker 1>for somebody in their character because well, you know, he
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really sing. He's a credible actor, crazy act. He
<v Speaker 1>didn't really sing. I want to know if you sing
<v Speaker 1>for him? Oh well he does. Oh yeah, oh I didn't.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't mention that the other day. But yeah, sure
<v Speaker 1>of course I would love to, you know, I mean
<v Speaker 1>being asked like that. And so I go in the
<v Speaker 1>next day and I do Santa song whatever the Santa.
<v Speaker 1>I can't even remember how it went. But like a
<v Speaker 1>week or two later, running Dead, we're going to do
<v Speaker 1>some pickups on the session and he goes, well, hello, sadta, hey,
<v Speaker 1>I know that. What's happening. Well, I heard you had
<v Speaker 1>a good time singing the other day, Santa, and I said, oh,
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute. They told me that you wanted me
<v Speaker 1>to do that because you didn't feel good about singing
<v Speaker 1>and just get commings to do it, and so that's
<v Speaker 1>why I did it. He goes, those pastards told you
<v Speaker 1>that I'll be right back, you know, And so some
<v Speaker 1>of us getting losing their head, he said anything like that,
<v Speaker 1>because they let him go through it and they recorded it,
<v Speaker 1>and he thought he was in and that's so that's
<v Speaker 1>that's a little extu. That's a rough Yeah. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 1>how they do, but well not with me or you.
<v Speaker 1>And I meant that to rhyme. All right, So that's
<v Speaker 1>good to have you man, Yeah, because you're are people
<v Speaker 1>surprised because I was, you know, I mean I've known
<v Speaker 1>of you know, your your career for eons. But then
<v Speaker 1>Prince and the Frog came along and I was like,
<v Speaker 1>this dude's singing his ass off. I mean, and those
<v Speaker 1>are cool songs. Randy Newman singing Randy Newman. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you know, please sign me up. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>We did a thing called Swinging the Mouse and I
<v Speaker 4>got to sing another Randy Newman.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I won't go sailing no More. I won't
<v Speaker 1>go sailing. I will go Sailing no More from Toy Story.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's a great song. Yeah. Yeah, well that's great. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. Well I love singing, Oh my goodness, anytime listen.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I wish I could get paid singing as
<v Speaker 4>much as I get paid acting.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I would, I would. I would do it tomorrow,
<v Speaker 1>yeah tonight on the way home.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I had a you know, I had I
<v Speaker 4>had a uh music manager for a while, and I
<v Speaker 4>told him that I said, you know, if I could
<v Speaker 4>sing more, I would stop acting.
<v Speaker 1>He said, keep your day job. Yeah, well he never
<v Speaker 1>heard you sing.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I get it. But in addition to well, you know,
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, it's an equally hard profession to to
<v Speaker 4>to you know, make a living act and and and
<v Speaker 4>you know, be prolific, you know, I am. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that is the truth of the matter. I
<v Speaker 4>would sing more if I could. But you know, it
<v Speaker 4>just happened that as I began my career, got to
<v Speaker 4>do more acting than I got to do singing. And
<v Speaker 4>and for the first few years, every time I'd line
<v Speaker 4>up a good singing job, I'd get a great acting
<v Speaker 4>job and have to cancel. I mean I'm talking about
<v Speaker 4>sometimes sometimes symphony gigs.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 4>I had cancel a symphony gig. And then to really
<v Speaker 4>put a cherry on it, uh, I was doing a
<v Speaker 4>series and it was the last episode that was going
<v Speaker 4>to interfere with the date of the kid hmm. And
<v Speaker 4>at first I was like, well the last episode. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I said to my do you think I can get
<v Speaker 4>them to write me out? He said, well, you know,
<v Speaker 4>you're starring in the thing that you don't want to be.
<v Speaker 4>Is that smart to be written? So that wasn't a
<v Speaker 4>great idea, so I said, okay, so.
<v Speaker 1>And it was.
<v Speaker 4>It was a couple of months in advance, but Symphonies
<v Speaker 4>book a year in advance, and they I don't think
<v Speaker 4>they ever forgave me for it because I never got
<v Speaker 4>offered them again.
<v Speaker 1>And that.
<v Speaker 4>But to add to add insult to injury or the
<v Speaker 4>cherry on top of the however you want to look
<v Speaker 4>at it, they canceled my show up to ten episodes,
<v Speaker 4>so then I was free.
<v Speaker 1>Perfect, So the universe was just in there. Take that.
<v Speaker 1>He go, oh there you go. Thanks, you know, no
<v Speaker 1>complaints and no regrets. Yeah, you know that's right, you
<v Speaker 1>just you know, yes, it does. So I mean it's
<v Speaker 1>all good, yes, indeed, yeah, well I know all about
<v Speaker 1>life goes on. Ray got yeah, got his own star.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, so I'm with you. I'm a big fan.
<v Speaker 1>You know. You know what I love about that.
<v Speaker 4>Right before, before my grandmother died, I got her a star,
<v Speaker 4>her name at the Star Register. And I don't remember
<v Speaker 4>how that came, you know, how it came to me
<v Speaker 4>to do that.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's funny. But by the time, you know, Princess Kima,
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, you know, I did that in
<v Speaker 1>my dad's name before a long time, many many many
<v Speaker 1>moons ago. Yeah, that wasn't recently, was it? That was
<v Speaker 1>a while ago? Two thousand? Yeah, yeah, I was going
<v Speaker 1>to say like twenty something. Yeah, yeah, I must have
<v Speaker 1>been going around. I did that too. Oh man, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I wonder if they know each other?
<v Speaker 1>It could be, could be.
<v Speaker 2>So was singing your first passion? Is that what you
<v Speaker 2>absolutely really going after?
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?
<v Speaker 4>I went to the high School Performing Arts, okay where
<v Speaker 4>in New York, New York, you know, and the sister
<v Speaker 4>school was Music and Art and uh and and my
<v Speaker 4>grandmother lived on one hundred and forty first Street, Music,
<v Speaker 4>and I was one hundred and thirty fifth Street, and
<v Speaker 4>I was two years in p A studying acting downtown
<v Speaker 4>on forty sixth Street before my aunt, you know, and
<v Speaker 4>my grandmother that my father's mother realized, you know.
<v Speaker 1>This boy is going to school for acting. What the
<v Speaker 1>hell is he doing that for? You know? So, but
<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do for a living? Well?
<v Speaker 1>That was you know, that was the question.
<v Speaker 4>Was That was the That was the big thing I remember,
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know that's we called her n that
<v Speaker 4>was you know, she was you know, another one of
<v Speaker 4>my favorite people, and of course great.
<v Speaker 1>Support. You know.
<v Speaker 4>At first, after I graduated from high school, I got
<v Speaker 4>accepted at Purchase, which is soon he had purchased to
<v Speaker 4>be an actor in New York. And I was all excited,
<v Speaker 4>and I came to announce with my family and she said,
<v Speaker 4>acting acting, You better study science and be a doctor
<v Speaker 4>and do that acting thing on the side.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and yeah we've had that advice there was, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they were kind of upset about it. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I remember my dad, you know, I was telling him, well,
<v Speaker 1>you know, here's what I'm going to do, and uh,
<v Speaker 1>he's wait, what you know? And I said, well, you know,
<v Speaker 1>like mel blank does all these character voices. Yeah, well
<v Speaker 1>I want to be like him. Okay, but what are
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do for a living? That was? That was
<v Speaker 1>because he was very practical, you know, steel Mill Town.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Okay, that's fine. Do they have a union
<v Speaker 1>for that? Yeah? They do, actually believe it or not.
<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty good one, all right, But what are
<v Speaker 1>you gonna how are you gonna eat again? You know, well,
<v Speaker 1>this job perhaps will lead to another one, and then
<v Speaker 1>I'll get another one after that, and then I start
<v Speaker 1>stacking years up, maybe decades, and you know, I'll do something.
<v Speaker 1>If I have to go back to selling pots and pans,
<v Speaker 1>then I'll do that. But for the time being, until
<v Speaker 1>they say no and stay home, I'm gonna I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>work this sucker, you know, and and it you know,
<v Speaker 1>not one wherever. Okay, I can't find anyone. But so far,
<v Speaker 1>so good, And now I get to hang out with you, man,
<v Speaker 1>So so that ain't.
<v Speaker 4>Bad, blessed and highly favored. I mean, yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 4>on on and this is this is how I like
<v Speaker 4>to think of it. What we do for a living,
<v Speaker 4>this job is we get to bring a little joy
<v Speaker 4>into somebody's life every day, every every opportunity we have
<v Speaker 4>to work that. Ultimately what we get to do. So
<v Speaker 4>on my worst day, mm hmm, I'm still living my dream.
<v Speaker 4>I've this is what I wanted to do. I dreamt
<v Speaker 4>of it when I was a child, of being an actor,
<v Speaker 4>making my living as an actor, when.
<v Speaker 1>I you know, and just keep and keep you do
<v Speaker 1>it until the wheel fall. And you were and you
<v Speaker 1>were a child when you can you remember when you
<v Speaker 1>first said you know what I was.
<v Speaker 4>I was in the in the second grade, man, and
<v Speaker 4>I remember the yeah, we had a talent contest.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, here we go.
<v Speaker 4>Now, I never experienced stage fright, you know, criippling stage.
<v Speaker 4>But I watched one of the kids before me. I
<v Speaker 4>mean a stage fright. I just got out there, froze
<v Speaker 4>and oh you know, I had to be taken off,
<v Speaker 4>you know, even as a kid. I'm like, I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>I never experienced that. Now I had.
<v Speaker 1>We had.
<v Speaker 4>I remember two talent shows we had. The first one
<v Speaker 4>I was, you know, it was really good.
<v Speaker 1>I was.
<v Speaker 4>I had this this girl sitting on my lap and
<v Speaker 4>I was doing a ventriloquist.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great, you know.
<v Speaker 4>So I said, you know, Harry, say hello to the people,
<v Speaker 4>Hello people, Hello people.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, suddenly and when suddenly you know, like that, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and suddenly now when you talk about you know, getting
<v Speaker 4>hot in your temperature changing, Suddenly she's sitting on my
<v Speaker 4>lap and I can feel the heat. I could feel
<v Speaker 4>heat suddenly begin to emanate from where she was sitting
<v Speaker 4>on my lap.
<v Speaker 1>Was this moist heath? I thought I thought it was.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was and I was so afraid of that.
<v Speaker 1>I said, Okay, that's it, that's it. Yeah, yeah, I look,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm like, okay.
<v Speaker 4>But man, it scared the Jesus, it really did. And
<v Speaker 4>then the next time and she was just nervous, she
<v Speaker 4>was just yeah. And the next time we had a contest,
<v Speaker 4>I faigned the stage fright, and I remember, you know,
<v Speaker 4>just just imitating the kid. And I just stood up
<v Speaker 4>there and I looked and I saw the sea of people.
<v Speaker 4>I just went like, I can't move, and I just
<v Speaker 4>want to see what it felt like, you know, to
<v Speaker 4>be escorted off to the stage, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know, singing is better, you know,
<v Speaker 1>Come on, my baby, Come on, my hunter. Remember that
<v Speaker 1>Michigan j Frog, Michigan top hat. Yeah, came man.
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<v Speaker 1>So that I can't believe that I nailed it. The
<v Speaker 1>thing was the first one. Yeah, because it felt I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it feels like that you've been around forever, but exactly
<v Speaker 1>what Yeah? Wow, really shit, we're getting old.
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you. If you live long enough, that happens.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'd rather have a ship ton
<v Speaker 1>of birthdays and just one funeral. Yeah, you have to
<v Speaker 1>worry about any more birthdays? So yeah, well dot com
<v Speaker 1>we'll take it right, Yeah, every day? Yeah? Yeah? What's
<v Speaker 1>is there anything that you're dying to talk about or
<v Speaker 1>that you can't because usually at the time you have
<v Speaker 1>to send those non disclosures. Well me, I think here's
<v Speaker 1>You're going to be invited to narrate the Second Coming
<v Speaker 1>of the Lord, but you're not allowed to tell anybody.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well why would I want to tell people
<v Speaker 1>about that? You know? And that's always something really good?
<v Speaker 1>Well next time I can't. Yeah. I do have one
<v Speaker 1>of those right this minute.
<v Speaker 4>But that something just dropped that is going to be
<v Speaker 4>pretty wonderful, going to be pretty wonderful.
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned, Yeah, jake it out steal.
<v Speaker 4>But that's that's that's you know, that's another one of
<v Speaker 4>those you know, God shots.
<v Speaker 1>There's another gift.
<v Speaker 4>You know, if you if you don't get discouraged by
<v Speaker 4>the stuff around the work, m eventually you'll get to work.
<v Speaker 1>That's good.
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean by that, Well, it's called show business.
<v Speaker 4>It ain't called show show. And the business of show
<v Speaker 4>can be daunting. It can be brutal, it can be ugly,
<v Speaker 4>it can be a whole lot of things that really
<v Speaker 4>have nothing to do with the work itself. The work
<v Speaker 4>itself is usually pretty yeah good, Yeah, that's that's the
<v Speaker 4>fun part, you know, that's that's really the fun part.
<v Speaker 4>But you but you can't have that much fun if
<v Speaker 4>you don't take care of business. Because I've been in
<v Speaker 4>those circumstances where you know people, you expect people to
<v Speaker 4>be straight up and up on the up and up,
<v Speaker 4>and they make you a promise or you know, give
<v Speaker 4>your worried about something and then.
<v Speaker 1>You know, like.
<v Speaker 4>Just a loose example, you know, I had a contract
<v Speaker 4>that that needed an amendment mm hm, and so you know,
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, SAG has that rule if you
<v Speaker 4>know you didn't you can't really get paid until you
<v Speaker 4>signed the contract. In those days, it was very enforceable.
<v Speaker 4>So my first day of work was coming up, like,
<v Speaker 4>are you going to fix the contract? I said, no,
<v Speaker 4>don don't worry about it. And then finally it got
<v Speaker 4>to listen, just sign the contract, you'll get paid and
<v Speaker 4>I'll fix it, you know, you know, later on fix it.
<v Speaker 4>So when I got the contract back, it wasn't fixed.
<v Speaker 4>And I said, you promised me that you were going
<v Speaker 4>to put that clause back in the contract so that
<v Speaker 4>you know I've been going to be able to participate.
<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah. He goes, you signed the contract, oh
<v Speaker 4>in my face, And I'm like, he said it, Wow.
<v Speaker 1>So that's it.
<v Speaker 3>Huh wow, Yeah, that's dirty.
<v Speaker 1>Well you know, it's a man, the man. It didn't
<v Speaker 1>mean a thing. Man, it didn't mean shit, you know
<v Speaker 1>I mean. And I was like, so that's you. Huh okay. Wow.
<v Speaker 4>I've never seen him again. I don't know what he's doing.
<v Speaker 4>He's probably functioning in his own world.
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's a handshake. I wouldn't. I would not,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I don't.
<v Speaker 4>I don't really hold grudges, you know, I try. I
<v Speaker 4>don't forget, but I don't forget them. It's like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>you're you're you're you're not trustworthy yeah, I mean you're
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean there are words for it. I
<v Speaker 4>won't use those kinds of words here. But you know,
<v Speaker 4>why do I even want to talk to you? And
<v Speaker 4>and I was before I came in here. I was
<v Speaker 4>just thinking about because of things like that, how it
<v Speaker 4>behooves you not to forget but to be forgiven, mostly
<v Speaker 4>of myself for being naive, m and and the other
<v Speaker 4>person for listen, I can't have no responsibility for who
<v Speaker 4>you are, only the way I take you.
<v Speaker 1>And what I do with that, you know.
<v Speaker 4>So I you know, I'm like I said, I'd have
<v Speaker 4>a problem shaking his hand, but I wouldn't stop him
<v Speaker 4>from saying hello, you know, and walking away, because I
<v Speaker 4>have nothing else to say to you but hello. But
<v Speaker 4>my mama taught me when I walk into a room
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not the first one in the room, you
<v Speaker 4>say hello. So hello, that's right, but you know, I
<v Speaker 4>don't have to engage with you.
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, goodbye. Right, while we're on the subject, right,
<v Speaker 1>I have a city. Yeah, Oh that's good man. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>So which do you get a bigger kick out of her?
<v Speaker 1>Planning the bad guy or planning a good guy? Because
<v Speaker 1>I've often wondered. You know, some people like Lee van Cleef,
<v Speaker 1>he can't answer that because he's never been a good guy,
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you have I get I get a
<v Speaker 1>kick out of working. Yeah, just period, you know, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's a good answer.
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know because even even the baddest guy and
<v Speaker 4>I just you know, I'm working in a movie now again.
<v Speaker 1>I can't ms good guy, bag guy. I'm I'm a
<v Speaker 1>ruthless ruthless.
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think he's. I think he's he's got
<v Speaker 4>a sense of humor. I mean, those are the best
<v Speaker 4>because you know, you know, there's there's one speech I
<v Speaker 4>have when I said, you know when I'm like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>I know what you did, and I'm gonna get you.
<v Speaker 4>Don't worry. I'm going to get you. I know why
<v Speaker 4>why you think you're getting away with it. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 4>catch you.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's really that's tasty. It's very tasty. It's very
<v Speaker 1>tasty to have that have that position, that power.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I mean, you know, the thing I
<v Speaker 4>loved about like Sopranos, m hmm, you can be the
<v Speaker 4>baddest cat in town. You don't talk to your mama
<v Speaker 4>like that. You can talk to your Wifeli not if
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna keep her around, you know, yeah so so
<v Speaker 4>so you gotta you know, every every bad guy has
<v Speaker 4>a as a mama, and and somewhere finds humor in
<v Speaker 4>something mm hm you and and and every every funny
<v Speaker 4>guy has a moment of.
<v Speaker 1>Villainy well or or or.
<v Speaker 4>At least a moment of right here, right now reality,
<v Speaker 4>which is not always so funny.
<v Speaker 1>Don't have to be. It doesn't have to be funny.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, well it's not so, but it will.
<v Speaker 4>But but it will, it will highlight when it is
<v Speaker 4>and when it's not, you know, contrastingly, you know what
<v Speaker 4>I mean. So finding finding those moments are a good
<v Speaker 4>I like you have moves on the back of that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>this brings us to another movie.
<v Speaker 2>When did what was your first voice acting role? When
<v Speaker 2>did acting transition into voice acting for you?
<v Speaker 4>Hmmm, well for a long time when I was growing up.
<v Speaker 4>You know, Marlon Perkins it was his name. Oh yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>mutual of Omaha.
<v Speaker 1>Here we she that have all? Yeah, I used to
<v Speaker 1>love that stuff.
<v Speaker 4>Lauren Green was one of my favorite narrators. Lauren Green,
<v Speaker 4>William Forsythe Bill, Conrad, Percy Rodriguez, you know these guys,
<v Speaker 4>I just you know, you listen to them do it
<v Speaker 4>do a nation, and it's like, wow, I want to
<v Speaker 4>know more about that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I mean it's just there
<v Speaker 1>was was very engaging. He had a warmth, a warmth
<v Speaker 1>that just you know, it was like storytelling. You know.
<v Speaker 4>It's like you remember when commercials went from just the
<v Speaker 4>announcer guy in here by Tide and it's your next
<v Speaker 4>wash will be very clean, and then it then it
<v Speaker 4>then it went to yea, suddenly it was brigis meritith.
<v Speaker 1>If you want your clothes clean, go by Tide. Your
<v Speaker 1>clothes will be white too.
<v Speaker 4>You know, and it, you know, became more actor oriented.
<v Speaker 1>And that's true, that's right, that's right. And I remember
<v Speaker 1>that distinction really clearly. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's kind
<v Speaker 1>of when I started, they were transitioning. Yeah. And and.
<v Speaker 4>When I first started, if you were a TV actor,
<v Speaker 4>you were a TV actor, that's right. They didn't do
<v Speaker 4>a lot of movies. I write a whole lot of
<v Speaker 4>TV actors who did movies. You were a commercial distinction. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>if you did commercials, you did commercial Well, I mean
<v Speaker 4>that that was a little bit different because a lot
<v Speaker 4>of stage actors did commercials, but movie actors didn't do commercials.
<v Speaker 1>And it was right around that transition then suddenly.
<v Speaker 4>Actors are doing commercials, you know, voice of commercials, and
<v Speaker 4>then suddenly on camera commercial and so it began, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and and back in the eighties that was that was
<v Speaker 4>pretty hi.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I remember when when the distinction was that
<v Speaker 1>if you were ever in a big TV show, you're
<v Speaker 1>never going to be in a big movie, right, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And if you were ever in a big movie, you
<v Speaker 1>cannot condescend to go and do Bonanza or some some
<v Speaker 1>TV show. Couldn't do it. And that's gone away.
<v Speaker 4>Not true anymore, that's right. Yeah, yeah, well and thank god,
<v Speaker 4>you know, because yeah, yeah, actings acting is acting. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>Shatner was in a couple of Twilight zones. I think
<v Speaker 4>Robert Redford was in. Robert Redford was in one too.
<v Speaker 4>I think it was a Twilight Zone, wasn't it. Yeah, So,
<v Speaker 4>you know, and they used to do they don't even
<v Speaker 4>show it anymore, something theater fifty four, Oh, theater fifty
<v Speaker 4>four for fifty two.
<v Speaker 1>Or something like that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Back, yeah, we live TV broadcasts because they did, I remember,
<v Speaker 4>I think it was Nancy Marshaan. I think it was
<v Speaker 4>Nancy Marshawan and his name just went out of my head.
<v Speaker 4>Who Rod Steiger who did a TV version of Marty
<v Speaker 4>oh Ernest Borgneah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Marty.
<v Speaker 1>I remember that. I'm almost sure that it was Rod
<v Speaker 1>Steiger did it TV. Well, everybody is all over the
<v Speaker 1>map now, so that's kind of that. That's cool, that's
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool. Yeah, I agree. I mean people on
<v Speaker 1>get famous on YouTube. How do you know that? That's
<v Speaker 1>another that's enough, that's yeah, it's like, no, you're not
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to be well, you know, because they're
<v Speaker 1>you know the difference between you know, they do have celebrity.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, but that's right, but they're not actors and
<v Speaker 4>they're not artists, you know, and you know, except where
<v Speaker 4>they are, except.
<v Speaker 1>If you are, except if you are. That's fair.
<v Speaker 4>There are some of them who are, and that's you know,
<v Speaker 4>especially younger, and most of them who are not, you know,
<v Speaker 4>but most of them who are not. Yeah, and you know,
<v Speaker 4>and and again the business of show, you you'll see
<v Speaker 4>people getting jobs from actors because they.
<v Speaker 1>Have follow followers. Yeah, I remember at an audition. It's
<v Speaker 1>got to be twenty some years ago. But this guy
<v Speaker 1>walks out and he goes said, we have followers. Do
<v Speaker 1>you have a follow Do you have a following? And no,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. You know some people who are
<v Speaker 1>like me, But does that count? He goes, no. I
<v Speaker 1>mean they're asking like if you have an Instagram, if
<v Speaker 1>you have a tic talk or what was it back then?
<v Speaker 1>X was something else? Facebook or MySpace all that. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it was all this old shit. I was like, no,
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't care about that, you know, blah
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. They go, wow, well they said, you know,
<v Speaker 1>major just verified that they were going to be asking
<v Speaker 1>me this, and they did. And I don't think I'm
<v Speaker 1>getting the job because I had to go I don't
<v Speaker 1>really have any Oh so you don't have any blah
<v Speaker 1>blah internet presence and no, okay, well thanks for coming,
<v Speaker 1>you know, And it was very subtle, but it was
<v Speaker 1>also there, you ain't getting this gig. You know, you
<v Speaker 1>got to bring your audience with you.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I mean and now we get to play
<v Speaker 4>the game, you know, you know, you know, you got
<v Speaker 4>to know how to participate in.
<v Speaker 2>You know, Brandon Rodgers, how's been a hotel with yeah,
<v Speaker 2>co star with you. He came from YouTube. Correct, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he was doing his social media thing and that's kind
<v Speaker 2>of he was on the show not too long ago,
<v Speaker 2>and he is telling us that's how he got the
<v Speaker 2>opportunity even to you know that for that.
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying is like, it's a it's a
<v Speaker 4>new kind of marketing. We used to we used to
<v Speaker 4>have to like advertise and show business or backstage put
<v Speaker 4>an article out.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you could.
<v Speaker 4>You can advertise yourself the variety nowadays. I mean, if
<v Speaker 4>if you know how to navigate the Internet and use
<v Speaker 4>it to your advantage like that, well more power to you.
<v Speaker 1>I mean.
<v Speaker 4>The thing that I was talking about was, uh, you know,
<v Speaker 4>bringing up other people who absolutely really don't have much
<v Speaker 4>talent except to uh, you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, accept in marketing what they have.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know, I mean, and I'm not
<v Speaker 4>belittling anybody's you know way of doing them doing you
<v Speaker 4>you do you Uh, It's I'm just saying that it
<v Speaker 4>ain't the same as somebody who is, you know, doing
<v Speaker 4>the work. And that's right, you know, because you know,
<v Speaker 4>the the thing about you know, you know, America's got
<v Speaker 4>talented you know, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of
<v Speaker 4>them have great talent, but most of them have been
<v Speaker 4>doing this most of their lives. You know, I think
<v Speaker 4>it's a misnoma to say that you can sleep on
<v Speaker 4>the cement for eighteen hours, get an audition and become
<v Speaker 4>a star.
<v Speaker 1>That don't happen.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I don't think even I even you know,
<v Speaker 4>even back in the old days in Hollywood when it
<v Speaker 4>was it was a.
<v Speaker 1>Schwabs right right, yeah, and many directors came in, Hey
<v Speaker 1>you come here. It was Atlanta Turner discovered there somebody
<v Speaker 1>like that.
<v Speaker 4>And I think that that I means certainly that can
<v Speaker 4>happen exception not rule, you know, well, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 2>And I heard that Coaches going Back to has been hotel.
<v Speaker 2>I heard that you were offered that show and then
<v Speaker 2>you said the only way I'm going to be a
<v Speaker 2>part of it is if I get to sing.
<v Speaker 3>Is that true?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Because I heard I had some they had some singing,
<v Speaker 4>and so like, if I get to sing on something, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>And then I.
<v Speaker 1>Mean, I really I love the writing, yeah, And the
<v Speaker 1>music is fantastic.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really clever. Well, it's like it's like doing
<v Speaker 4>an animated Broadway show. I mean, you know, that's that's
<v Speaker 4>what it feels like to me. Yeah, I just I
<v Speaker 4>just have such a great time doing it. And it's
<v Speaker 4>it's smart, it's so smart.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that counts. Yeah. Okay, now I want to Okay,
<v Speaker 1>can you get me a gig on that show? I'm ready,
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. That's great, that's good stuff. Well there's not
<v Speaker 1>a lot of super fresh things happening out there, you know, well,
<v Speaker 1>you know, not not an animation anyway.
<v Speaker 4>It's so funny again, and you know, you know, one
<v Speaker 4>one company does does something, and then you get all
<v Speaker 4>these copycasts.
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, you know sometimes it ain't bad sometimes,
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you know, you look at I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>If you've ever wanted to do a project, and you know,
<v Speaker 4>you can't get arrested. I mean, you can't get anybody
<v Speaker 4>even engage the idea. And then you see something and
<v Speaker 4>you go and opinions you know how they are. But
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, I know my idea.
<v Speaker 1>Was better than that. Yes, yes, how did that happen?
<v Speaker 4>But you know, again, I cannot I do not want
<v Speaker 4>to begrudge anybody their opportunity, you know, right, so you know,
<v Speaker 4>and it's no it is no small feet getting anything done,
<v Speaker 4>animated motion period, getting it if you get if, if
<v Speaker 4>you got the wordwithal to get it done. Hey, my
<v Speaker 4>hat's off to you because it is not easy, and
<v Speaker 4>especially and especially as the business paradigm continues to shift.
<v Speaker 4>Beat the folk who can navigate that and keep that,
<v Speaker 4>you know, keep that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a weird world out there now. It's it's
<v Speaker 1>much different than ever before. Nothing's quite the same as
<v Speaker 1>it used to be, and on some you know, in
<v Speaker 1>some instances it shouldn't be. Yeah, yeah, it was necessary
<v Speaker 1>to change if it's progressed, if it's progress.
<v Speaker 4>You know, now we're you know, facing change again. So
<v Speaker 4>you know, you just got to be ready to go
<v Speaker 4>with the flow. When I grow up, I want to
<v Speaker 4>be a bamboo not an oak tree.
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a preference to doing voiceover or on
<v Speaker 2>camera work?
<v Speaker 1>No? I like working? Yeah, you know, I mean, good
<v Speaker 1>job is a good job?
<v Speaker 3>Is there one you enjoy more?
<v Speaker 4>I mean the thing about going into the booth. I
<v Speaker 4>do get up and brush my teeth every day. But
<v Speaker 4>if I didn't have but if I didn't want to,
<v Speaker 4>I didn't you know, I get in that booth them
<v Speaker 4>by myself. You know, sometimes you don't even have to
<v Speaker 4>make any contact during the pandemic we have, you know,
<v Speaker 4>you know, you don't need to come in the same entrance.
<v Speaker 1>As other people.
<v Speaker 4>Right, that was, you know, a different you know, I'm
<v Speaker 4>sure it cost the studios a lot of money buying
<v Speaker 4>earphones and you know, uh mic covers and all that
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>But life went on.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I know it was very difficult
<v Speaker 4>for a lot of folk. And you know, and I still,
<v Speaker 4>you know, say my prayers for these, you know, for
<v Speaker 4>those people who are struggling and continue to struggle. I
<v Speaker 4>chose deliberately, and I was extremely fortunate. I have a
<v Speaker 4>fantastic wife and a wonderful family who was very supportive,
<v Speaker 4>and we like each other. So the fact that we
<v Speaker 4>had to be hunker down, hunker down and be together, okay, okay,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean moments, the moments as as will
<v Speaker 4>happen when you get a little don't you have something
<v Speaker 4>to do?
<v Speaker 1>Want you do it? In there? You know? Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we have a big enough house that we can go. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going in mind yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
<v Speaker 1>But you know.
<v Speaker 4>Also, I just you know, I took it as a
<v Speaker 4>unscheduled spiritual retreat.
<v Speaker 1>There you go, you know, I you know that glass
<v Speaker 1>definitely have full listen, I do you know.
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's like complaining about it and bitching and
<v Speaker 4>moaning about it.
<v Speaker 1>What was that going to change? It doesn't do anything.
<v Speaker 1>And people walking through.
<v Speaker 4>The airport with the mask half down and angry if
<v Speaker 4>you know, looking at your scancer if you say, can
<v Speaker 4>you or you know, social distancing.
<v Speaker 1>I was glad to stand away from people. Yeah back,
<v Speaker 1>Why do you want to be that I don't know you? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Why do you want to be so close
<v Speaker 1>to me? Yeah? I didn't see you at any family reunions.
<v Speaker 4>My mama wouldn't stand that close to me, you know, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>yeah back, Yeah, my wife got you know, a little
<v Speaker 4>miffed with me because I said.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get a jacket made. Stand back. I
<v Speaker 1>might have COVID, yeah you know what I mean, or
<v Speaker 1>maybe even nice big fat ass buttons. Right, you know
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I got my COVID. Would you like
<v Speaker 1>it too? But I don't worry. I share, but you
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 4>That I mean, yeah, first time I was on a
<v Speaker 4>plane posts post COVID and there's a guy across the
<v Speaker 4>aisle for me.
<v Speaker 1>I'm perfect. Oh that's good mask. Yeah, and he's doing
<v Speaker 1>it onto his hand and then you know, not even
<v Speaker 1>like doing the dracula. Yeah, you know which they tell
<v Speaker 1>you that the dracula.
<v Speaker 3>That's funny, that's what they call.
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Absolutely.
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<v Speaker 2>What was the most challenging point in your either your
<v Speaker 2>life or your career.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they were inseparable, you know, because.
<v Speaker 4>My career is around you know, they are a bit
<v Speaker 4>around each other life and my life revolved around you know.
<v Speaker 4>There are many many occasions family, you know, reunions or
<v Speaker 4>gatherings that I missed because I had to go to
<v Speaker 4>work there, and then and then and you know, and
<v Speaker 4>and and then it comes a shift in the action
<v Speaker 4>when you know, my life is my work. But now
<v Speaker 4>I have to I have to pick and choose differently
<v Speaker 4>because a jeopardizing my family dynamic. This job is not
<v Speaker 4>worth it. It's just a job, you know. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>even if it's a million dollars, it's like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>but what does that mean? Now?
<v Speaker 1>Is going to cost me?
<v Speaker 4>I have the taxes and commissions, and then then I've
<v Speaker 4>spend that time at the shrink, you know, or or
<v Speaker 4>some other kind of therapy because I'm not well and
<v Speaker 4>and long before became a pandemic issue my spiritual fitness
<v Speaker 4>and my.
<v Speaker 1>Know, my.
<v Speaker 4>Mental well being. This is far too important to me
<v Speaker 4>to not pay attention, you know. So there were times
<v Speaker 4>when my wife said, no, you can't take that. It's
<v Speaker 4>too long and I want you know, so a few
<v Speaker 4>times you gotta be kidding me, Yeah, okay, And then
<v Speaker 4>once you make the decision and you forget about it.
<v Speaker 4>Now did it takes me years to learn how to
<v Speaker 4>do that? To let it go? The job you didn't get,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I get.
<v Speaker 2>It, is there one on your mind right now that
<v Speaker 2>you're thinking of that you really wanted and just didn't
<v Speaker 2>pan out.
<v Speaker 4>Oh God, if I went down that rabbit hole there
<v Speaker 4>several But when I think about my blessings and the
<v Speaker 4>god shots that I have had, that mostly center around
<v Speaker 4>the jobs I got, of course mostly, but now I
<v Speaker 4>deeply appreciate the jobs I didn't get because I don't
<v Speaker 4>know what God was sparing me from mm hmm. And
<v Speaker 4>the things that I got to do in instead.
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes are pretty wonderful. They weren't the same, sometimes wasn't.
<v Speaker 4>The same, but but it was more than comparable, and
<v Speaker 4>in respect that I was able to maintain my own
<v Speaker 4>self respect.
<v Speaker 1>I got to eat, yeah, feed fat, always a good sign,
<v Speaker 1>you know, kept a roof over my head.
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, I mean when I say no complaints
<v Speaker 4>and no regrets, I mean it from the souls of
<v Speaker 4>my fate.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, that's good, you know. I mean, at the
<v Speaker 1>end of the what is it going to do? That's right?
<v Speaker 1>Because like anybody who complains about old age.
<v Speaker 4>Consider the alternative. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'd.
<v Speaker 1>Rather have a whole mess of birthdays and one stinking funeral.
<v Speaker 1>I've said that a main time.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's like I mean, dude, I mean, and
<v Speaker 4>the quality of your old.
<v Speaker 1>Age is going to be characterized by what you did
<v Speaker 1>yesterday so and what you're doing tomorrow.
<v Speaker 4>And right you know, and what you're doing today. I mean, so,
<v Speaker 4>I mean I try not to, you know, I try
<v Speaker 4>to narrow down.
<v Speaker 1>To minimize.
<v Speaker 4>That those sort of scroogey and things that will come
<v Speaker 4>back to haunt me.
<v Speaker 1>Mm hm. Well, I've always said that you the biggest
<v Speaker 1>regrets are the things that you didn't do. You know, wosh,
<v Speaker 1>you know what I really should? Oh yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the things you don't do. Those are the big regrets
<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, it's all seemed that way, but
<v Speaker 1>so you got to you gotta, you know, And I
<v Speaker 1>tell people if you really because you know, you do
<v Speaker 1>these conventions and kids will ask you, well, how did
<v Speaker 1>you know? How did you how did you blah blah blah,
<v Speaker 1>And for me, uh, it's like I say, you only
<v Speaker 1>regret the things you don't do, and if you can,
<v Speaker 1>if you have a dream of it. And now I
<v Speaker 1>found out later that this was some kind of a
<v Speaker 1>positive attitude thing that's like acceptable to ram Das and
<v Speaker 1>all these gurus and everything. But if you just imagine
<v Speaker 1>yourself doing it already. Imagine what it would be like
<v Speaker 1>getting up and going to work and going to a
<v Speaker 1>studio and singing a song or doing a cartoon character
<v Speaker 1>and everything. And if you can see it, if you
<v Speaker 1>can imagine it, then you probably can pull it off.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you know, you could probably pull it off.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm from you Euxtown, Ohio. Used to work
<v Speaker 1>in a steel mill, you know. And then I was
<v Speaker 1>moved to New Orleans. I worked on a riverboat, but
<v Speaker 1>I still knew. But I wasn't a steel mail worker.
<v Speaker 1>I was a guy who worked in a steel there
<v Speaker 1>you go, you know, so who you're going to be? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and that and that there's nothing wrong with the guys
<v Speaker 1>in the steel mill.
<v Speaker 4>Listen, guys lesson and there a whole bunch of guys
<v Speaker 4>and I have nothing against them. That's what they want
<v Speaker 4>to do. Yeah, you want to do that. It's a study, paycheck,
<v Speaker 4>you make your money.
<v Speaker 1>Union, take your hospitalization, you know.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a wonderful thing. Was that there's a
<v Speaker 4>bunch of guys who don't want to accept that kind
<v Speaker 4>of and who don't you know, I mean, you know,
<v Speaker 4>they didn't call them dead beats.
<v Speaker 1>For nothing. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but not everybody is the dead beat. You know,
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't have the same ambition as you.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I knew buddy mine one hundred years ago. He said. Well,
<v Speaker 1>I went down, I was that auditioning, applying for this job,
<v Speaker 1>and they got it. You know what, they want to
<v Speaker 1>pay seven bucks. I go, well, it's not too a
<v Speaker 1>long time ago, and I ain't working for seven bucks.
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, then you ain't working. You're also not working.
<v Speaker 1>You're also not eating. Okay, so seven bucks an hour
<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough for you. Okay, So what are you gonna
<v Speaker 1>do now? Tap dance? You know, going to Jackson Square
<v Speaker 1>and you know, good luck? Oh man, what and give
<v Speaker 1>up showbiz? Yeah? That's crazy.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I mean, and I feel you.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I understand that. I mean, the idea of
<v Speaker 4>it sounds more insulting than getting kicked out of your apartment.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a little that's a little.
<v Speaker 4>Harsh, but you know, I mean, not to get to
<v Speaker 4>for a field in that in this area. But it's
<v Speaker 4>also you know, why we are in the climate we're
<v Speaker 4>in today, because you know, as much wealth as that
<v Speaker 4>exists in this country, just this country alone, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>A man shouldn't have to work for subpar wages. A woman, man,
<v Speaker 4>woman child should not have to wait work for subpar
<v Speaker 4>wages so that you know, you know, I can't enjoy it.
<v Speaker 4>You know, some dessert with your meal, Go to the
<v Speaker 4>movies every once while, take out your friend if you
<v Speaker 4>want to. I mean, that's and that's that's really that
<v Speaker 4>that's not a lot to ask.
<v Speaker 1>It really is not a lot to ask, especially while
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 4>The robber barons are making money hand over fist and
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, no, we don't let him eat cake.
<v Speaker 4>Let them have a meal and then some cakes dessert.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I remember, I think it's James Red.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want nobody to give me nothing. You just
<v Speaker 1>open up the door. I'll get it myself, you know,
<v Speaker 1>that's all you need, that's all. Do I have a
<v Speaker 1>shot at doing this? Yes, here's your shot. Okay, that's
<v Speaker 1>that's all. You know, I'll take it, you know, if
<v Speaker 1>you if you've got a shot at what you want
<v Speaker 1>to do. I mean I think that we're still like
<v Speaker 1>the only probably the only country in the world that
<v Speaker 1>you can actually do that, you know, be poor as
<v Speaker 1>hell as a church mouse. And then grow up and
<v Speaker 1>be a judge, you know, knock on wood. Not that
<v Speaker 1>I want to be a judge, but anyway, Yeah, no.
<v Speaker 3>Kidding, I'm fine with being a judge.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. But that's his last name. So he's cheating.
<v Speaker 1>He's cheating. He's cheating a bit. Yeah, what else?
<v Speaker 3>Should we do? Some voice swaps? You want to? I
<v Speaker 3>want to have a little, a little voice swap game.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a it's pretty pretty ridiculously fun, and it's basically,
<v Speaker 1>I'll do one of my characters and uh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>like fig or Winnie the Pooh, dark Wing Duck, and
<v Speaker 1>then you pick one of your impressions one of your guys,
<v Speaker 1>and you repeat it in his voice, and then you
<v Speaker 1>give me an expression of yours in character, and then
<v Speaker 1>I have to do it as Winnie the Pooh or
<v Speaker 1>dark Wing Duck or Tasmanian Devil, you know, one of
<v Speaker 1>my guys. So what do you say?
<v Speaker 3>Are your game?
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Okay, let's see, I wasn't gonna do a
<v Speaker 1>facilly a line, but that would go in my world
<v Speaker 1>now not your world. Un but I can't see it
<v Speaker 1>as well as you, so I won't be doing that.
<v Speaker 1>We can edit that out right. Let's see. Okay, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I guess we could do it Princess and the Frog Groove.
<v Speaker 1>I think I got it, Sweet Evangelie. Yeah, well okay,
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Here, here's Ray. Well, you know something,
<v Speaker 1>The women love a man with a big poach. Now
<v Speaker 1>I have to do it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, how about you do it as Facilia then?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, a tip of the hat from doctor Facilier. You
<v Speaker 4>know a woman loves a man with a big back porch.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, how can you make that sound sort of evil? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of evil. I didn't want to go sit
<v Speaker 1>on the back porch. I'm staying here. Oh wow, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I have a request for you. I love Rick and Morty.
<v Speaker 2>Can you do the president?
<v Speaker 4>I'm the President of the goddamn the United States of America.
<v Speaker 1>I believe you. Okay, So who should that be? How
<v Speaker 1>about dark wing?
<v Speaker 3>How about robotic?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I'm the president the goddamn United States of America.
<v Speaker 1>Get that head up there? You go, nice, calm, laid
<v Speaker 1>back way to segue into the sunset.
<v Speaker 2>Before we do another one, I just have to ask
<v Speaker 2>you for personal curiosity. How did you get mixed up
<v Speaker 2>with Justin Royland? And Dan Harmon and the whole Rick
<v Speaker 2>and Morty crew community community community.
<v Speaker 4>Of course, I did the community and then Dad asked
<v Speaker 4>me to come in and my first character on the
<v Speaker 4>show was reverse your.
<v Speaker 1>Reverse giraffe, reverse giraffe. Yeah, he's got short legs and
<v Speaker 1>along then.
<v Speaker 6>Oh wow, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want
<v Speaker 6>to adopt one of those.
<v Speaker 3>Community was a good show too, It was a good show.
<v Speaker 1>I had a ball.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had a ball.
<v Speaker 4>You know, I mean yeah, yeah, those guys are clever. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that's and and that's the kind of comedy that I
<v Speaker 4>really like. It's like, this is really smart stuff. I
<v Speaker 4>mean it's not.
<v Speaker 1>It's fun, but it's really smart. Yeah. Yeah that helps. Yeah, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I like that too. That's the icing on the cake. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>It works on two levels, you know, nothing like a
<v Speaker 1>double edged sword. Yeah. Oh, ain't that's the truth.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Sorry I have I had to interrupt there.
<v Speaker 2>Well let's do one more. Let's do one more back
<v Speaker 2>and forth? Okay, maybe dark Wing Duck, good old dark Wing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I am the terror the flaps in the night.
<v Speaker 1>I at duck Wing Duck as Goliath would be good.
<v Speaker 1>I am the terror that flaps in the night. I
<v Speaker 1>am dark wing duck. It's pretty good because you know
<v Speaker 1>what Goliath actually does, flap in the night. Yes, now
<v Speaker 1>that you think about.
<v Speaker 2>It, your voice is so incredible to me, like you
<v Speaker 2>can change the whole atmosphere of a room just with
<v Speaker 2>your voice.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. That's true.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you know that obviously. But it's such an
<v Speaker 2>incredible talent.
<v Speaker 1>And and it's and it's interesting because you can go
<v Speaker 1>from commanding the room and attracting the room to you
<v Speaker 1>with bumb bast and then cementing them in so they
<v Speaker 1>can't wait for the next word. You whisper. That's tasty.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's when you have everybody right there, right there,
<v Speaker 1>That's what that is. Indeed, that's good stuff. Oh man,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so so much for being here.
<v Speaker 2>Man, wait, no, I have I have to I have
<v Speaker 2>to ask ask one more. I have to ask one more.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. There you go.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Keith.
<v Speaker 1>I love you, man.
<v Speaker 2>So the first time I ever saw you in anything,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm aging myself here. I guess the opposite way,
<v Speaker 2>but was There's something about Mary and I thought you
<v Speaker 2>were just hilarious, you know, the stern Dad and I
<v Speaker 2>just want to know what it was like working with
<v Speaker 2>Cameron Diaz and Ben Stiller.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's so funny you asked that because for
<v Speaker 4>some reason, I was talking to somebody who lived in
<v Speaker 4>Miami the time that we were shooting, and so, you know,
<v Speaker 4>it's got just reliving that whole pre It was. It
<v Speaker 4>was such fun, It was such a good time. And
<v Speaker 4>that said was you know if you remember the you know,
<v Speaker 4>the famous you know, you know zipper shop, Yes, yes,
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I what I what I like about
<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to play comedy and improvised. I had an
<v Speaker 4>aunt and one of her favorite catchphrases was oh forgotten
<v Speaker 4>Heaven's sake, you know, and so and for some reason,
<v Speaker 4>every time she said, you know, oh forgotten, so I.
<v Speaker 1>Got to use it in that scene. Oh forgotten. Oh
<v Speaker 1>that's great, that's great. Wow, that's great.
<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, you know, it was just it was,
<v Speaker 4>it was a wonderful time. Some of the out the outtakes,
<v Speaker 4>like I came to the door, you know, what do
<v Speaker 4>you want? And then and Ben's got the teeth.
<v Speaker 1>Kept forgotten Heaven's sake? Were you floss.
<v Speaker 2>That that reaction and then your face what you said
<v Speaker 2>how did you get the beans above the Frank, I'll
<v Speaker 2>never forget that face like burned into my memory. When
<v Speaker 2>I first saw that, I just thought it was the
<v Speaker 2>funniest thing.
<v Speaker 4>If you ever remember getting caught, that's burned into my memory,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, if you, if any any man
<v Speaker 4>above seven years old knows what that's like. Yeah, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 4>you know you're talking about no fun at all, you know.
<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't know about that to a degree, but.
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean that's a bit extreme.
<v Speaker 4>But I do you know between you know, your neck
<v Speaker 4>and oh yeah jackets that, yeah, and you know your
<v Speaker 4>test is when you know, when you got you know,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't even want to move, you know,
<v Speaker 4>how do you how do you maneuver this? Because going
<v Speaker 4>up is not going to work? And going down yeah,
<v Speaker 4>there's no there's no there's no escaping.
<v Speaker 1>This blood will be shipped you. Yeah, yeah, past the butter.
<v Speaker 3>You're in battle.
<v Speaker 1>Just a good measure, just this greased things up. Oh god,
<v Speaker 1>you guys are taking notes on this, I hope, just
<v Speaker 1>in case you don't want to be prepared like a
<v Speaker 1>boy scout like scar That pretty bad, yeah, my lion king, buddy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, singing and and I mean that's it's so
<v Speaker 1>great because I always like it when the character sings
<v Speaker 1>and and that.
<v Speaker 4>Apparently that's what's icing on the cake. Yeah, that is
<v Speaker 4>that is icing on the cake. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And when you get to find you know, you know,
<v Speaker 4>the voice of that character, you know, mm hmm.
<v Speaker 1>That's a yeah. And singing takes it to a whole
<v Speaker 1>other level.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I always love that aspect of of musicals,
<v Speaker 4>when the situation becomes so heightened, suddenly I can't talk
<v Speaker 4>about this anymore.
<v Speaker 1>I have to sing, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Are you that's true? Are you a Thespian? Do you
<v Speaker 3>go to a lot of plays.
<v Speaker 4>As much as possible? Yeah? In fact that I wanted
<v Speaker 4>to go tonight, but it's not playing tonight.
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever see a Book of Mormon?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, you like that play. That is a funny play.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's one of the funniest players I ever seen.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, spam a lot, that's another one. Yeah, mm hmmm.
<v Speaker 1>Were you a big python fan of that English humor?
<v Speaker 1>Sort of after the fact, mm hmm.
<v Speaker 4>I had friends when we were growing up who loved it,
<v Speaker 4>and I found it.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was pretty humor. Is pretty humor. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty humor. Yeah, I mean I got I had
<v Speaker 1>I had more fun with what was his name? That
<v Speaker 1>came on? Michael palin No used to dress up.
<v Speaker 4>He had a hit a drag character he dressed up on.
<v Speaker 4>But it was really he played multiple characters.
<v Speaker 1>Not Madam, oh gosh, British yeah, the British guy. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and he.
<v Speaker 7>Was yes, oh god, just and he stayed on.
<v Speaker 1>It was on for a long time. Yeah. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>think it started on PBS maybe. I think I think
<v Speaker 1>Hello Possums, the Little Possums. I think that's that's the one.
<v Speaker 1>What was his name? Everybody's watching this one? It's yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't pull it out.
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, wow, I have something else to ask you.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, just these questions.
<v Speaker 3>That's good to me. So you're from an era.
<v Speaker 2>My dad is around your age, and he's also a
<v Speaker 2>black man, and there was kind of like, as far
<v Speaker 2>as he describes it, like almost like two lanes for
<v Speaker 2>black actors. And he says that in La at the
<v Speaker 2>time in the eighties, there was like a black casting director.
<v Speaker 2>It was like you go to them and they cast
<v Speaker 2>you for whatever. It was kind of you got funneled
<v Speaker 2>into that lane spread out. It seems like in your
<v Speaker 2>career you've kind of like all never really been put
<v Speaker 2>into that like blackbuster Pool or anything like that. Were
<v Speaker 2>you aware of that when it was happening.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course, Uh, there were. There was a casting
<v Speaker 4>director in New York. His name I won't mention, but.
<v Speaker 1>And she said one time, Oh, Keith David, he can't
<v Speaker 1>sound black. And I'm like, what, you know, you know,
<v Speaker 1>what's that mean? Even?
<v Speaker 4>What does that mean? What does that even mean? So,
<v Speaker 4>you know, you let them suffer their own delusions until
<v Speaker 4>until one day they get smacked into reality by reality,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, you know you they're like today,
<v Speaker 4>that kind of statement would cancel you, you know, and
<v Speaker 4>and rightly so, because it's stinking thinking. It's like what
<v Speaker 4>kind of you know? And listen, nobody will arrest you
<v Speaker 4>for what you think. But you shouldn't say anything you think. Yeah, no,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, And and to have no idea
<v Speaker 4>that that might be insulting you in some way, you know,
<v Speaker 4>And and when I.
<v Speaker 1>And but there's a pretty tone death.
<v Speaker 4>The truth of the matter is, when I first started,
<v Speaker 4>I got a lot of the you know, crossover work
<v Speaker 4>where it didn't you didn't have to be it didn't
<v Speaker 4>have to be black, it didn't you know, didn't it
<v Speaker 4>didn't really matter.
<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter if it was or not. Uh.
<v Speaker 4>And more so than today, there was there was us
<v Speaker 4>certainly uh an idea of what they thought black people
<v Speaker 4>sounded like. And and and they would get those voices
<v Speaker 4>that would do that. You know, nowadays it's very you know,
<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's very difficult to discern always well, that's
<v Speaker 4>a black man, that's a black woman, that's a that's
<v Speaker 4>a you know, you know, regional even even in regionalism,
<v Speaker 4>because if you hear some of the Brits, you know,
<v Speaker 4>when they start being you know, talking cognate or whenever,
<v Speaker 4>you don't know who it could be. And you know,
<v Speaker 4>I mean and and you know, just get the best
<v Speaker 4>person for the job. But you know, I mean, I say,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I say that, but that's not always the
<v Speaker 4>most immediate.
<v Speaker 1>Reality, you know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know the thing, you know, you know,
<v Speaker 4>I just don't be discouraged by anything or anyone.
<v Speaker 3>And that's how you approach that.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's like it's like I'm not letting your
<v Speaker 4>opinion of me, stop me what I'm trying to that's right,
<v Speaker 4>you know. I mean, if I don't get this job,
<v Speaker 4>I'll get another one, you know, eventually. And you got
<v Speaker 4>to stay in it. I mean, the race is not
<v Speaker 4>for the swift, but for those who can endure. And
<v Speaker 4>I don't mean to sound cliche, but that it's a marathon,
<v Speaker 4>it's not a sprint, you know. And because you see,
<v Speaker 4>you see sprinters all the time, you know, and depending
<v Speaker 4>on their work ethic and attitude, how long they stay
<v Speaker 4>in there because you see them burned down, you'll see
<v Speaker 4>a wonderful performance and you think, oh, that there's some
<v Speaker 4>nice potential there.
<v Speaker 1>You know, what.
<v Speaker 4>Happened to them, right, Either they didn't have a work
<v Speaker 4>ethic or they they they begin to emulate the ethic
<v Speaker 4>of someone that they were around. And that's not what
<v Speaker 4>you should have been paying attention to.
<v Speaker 2>Not that behavior like you mean as far as like
<v Speaker 2>a bad influence.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean my opinion would be my opinion about
<v Speaker 4>what's you know, you know, decent and work related behavior.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, professionalism. You know, technically, if you get paid,
<v Speaker 4>you can be called a professional, but professionalism is an attitude.
<v Speaker 4>Is the manner in which you approach you absolutely, you know,
<v Speaker 4>that's what that's what's to be emulated. Look how they
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, look look how they approach the work,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, yeah, you know that the workspace
<v Speaker 4>is sacred.
<v Speaker 2>Who would you say is one of the hardest working
<v Speaker 2>people you've met?
<v Speaker 4>You know, I got a good buddy, Ruben Santiago Hudson.
<v Speaker 4>He's one of the hardest working people I've ever met.
<v Speaker 4>He does a whole bunch of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 4>He's a wonderful, wonderful director, great actor, great writer, m
<v Speaker 4>you know. And but what I what I admire most
<v Speaker 4>about him is his work ethic. Yes, he is about
<v Speaker 4>the work, and he has an integrity that is admirable,
<v Speaker 4>m you know, and unwavering and and I just I
<v Speaker 4>love that about.
<v Speaker 1>It, you know, I mean, you know, yeah, easy to admire.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a fellow has that great line, thou hast such
<v Speaker 4>a noble sense of thy friends, wrong, thou teachest me,
<v Speaker 4>or thou instructest to me something like that, you know.
<v Speaker 4>And that's that's what we're not gonna think about him.
<v Speaker 4>That's what I think about.
<v Speaker 2>What about you, Jim, same question for you. Somebody who
<v Speaker 2>stands out for their work ethic that you've either worked
<v Speaker 2>with or known in your life.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, gosh, what good old Corey Burton. He's a
<v Speaker 1>Disney voice guy. He does. He's Grumpy and the Seven Dwarfs,
<v Speaker 1>and he's Chip and Chip and Dale and Zipper and
<v Speaker 1>Chip and Dale. And I've worked with him tons of
<v Speaker 1>times on goof Troop and he he he's a real historian.
<v Speaker 1>He's a Disney voice historian. He knows everybody who did
<v Speaker 1>every ancillary character. And he's got the microphone that they used. Now,
<v Speaker 1>this one is the one that Paul Freeze used when
<v Speaker 1>he was recording for the Beware of Hitchhiking Strangers, you know,
<v Speaker 1>Pirates of the Caribbean, you know, And and he knows
<v Speaker 1>all about that, and it's got that warm tape feeling
<v Speaker 1>and I go, okay, you know, and I get a
<v Speaker 1>kick out of that. I admire that. That's you know,
<v Speaker 1>he teaches. He treats it like an art form, like art,
<v Speaker 1>and because it is, you know, it's just fun art.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I always my joke is it's it's
<v Speaker 1>stuff used to get me kicked out of class, so
<v Speaker 1>I did better in the hall, you know, so but yeah, Corey,
<v Speaker 1>Corey comes to mind. He's got it going on. I
<v Speaker 1>have to get him on here in one of these days.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but yeah, but he's no Keith David. I'll
<v Speaker 1>tell you what.
<v Speaker 4>But that's all Freeze. I love remember him? Yeah, you
<v Speaker 4>know you know who? The voice I used to love
<v Speaker 4>to was Alfred Drake. That guy could sing. I can't
<v Speaker 4>think well when you when you get a chance, google
<v Speaker 4>him singing so in love?
<v Speaker 1>Oh is we troul No? No, no, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 1>mm hmmm strange do you? But true? Do you when
<v Speaker 1>I'm close to you?
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<v Speaker 1>Now, who is back in the day like from the
<v Speaker 1>forties and the fifties? Who are you who are some
<v Speaker 1>of your favorite singers or bands or Billy Eckstein. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, sure, sure.
<v Speaker 4>You know that very stylized call was a was a
<v Speaker 4>was a great favorite of mine. But you know, and
<v Speaker 4>in fact, this I can talk about. I'm working on
<v Speaker 4>a show about Joe Joel Williams, and Joe Joe was
<v Speaker 4>a great.
<v Speaker 1>Hero of mine.
<v Speaker 4>I have, you know, working on this show especially, I
<v Speaker 4>have come to.
<v Speaker 1>Love Joe Williams. Yeah, I mean he was a classic guy.
<v Speaker 1>He's a classic guy.
<v Speaker 4>A work ethic he talks about, you know, he talks
<v Speaker 4>about one of the things that he learned working with
<v Speaker 4>the Basic Band, with these men who who cared about
<v Speaker 4>their about their work and strove every night, you know,
<v Speaker 4>to get the music right. You know, they were treated
<v Speaker 4>like artists, and so they acted like artists, you know,
<v Speaker 4>striving for excellence and perfection each and every night, like
<v Speaker 4>they played every night like they were playing Carnegie Hall.
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's the key that you know that you know,
<v Speaker 4>and and Joe talks about you know that, you know,
<v Speaker 4>the show he would give for his audiences, you know,
<v Speaker 4>sometimes sometimes be crowded over crowded audience, and sometimes he'd
<v Speaker 4>be a player club and because of the weather, there'd
<v Speaker 4>be three or four people, and they gave the same show,
<v Speaker 4>the same show. They got the same show as if
<v Speaker 4>it was a.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's like a tenant. That's a show business
<v Speaker 1>gotta be.
<v Speaker 4>I remember doing a thing in school and we were
<v Speaker 4>doing we were doing a dance program. I'm was the teacher,
<v Speaker 4>and we had done all this great avant garde uh
<v Speaker 4>choreography to Edgar Allan Poe. Of course, she said, we're
<v Speaker 4>going to do the same. We're going to do this
<v Speaker 4>show whether there's two people or seventy people who were
<v Speaker 4>in this audience, and we're gonna and we're gonna start
<v Speaker 4>a long time. So if you missed the beginning, you
<v Speaker 4>missed the beginning and the first and that first show,
<v Speaker 4>you know, it were scanty. It was a scanty crowd.
<v Speaker 4>But we treated it like like a dress rehearsal, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and you just get something out of it, you know,
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, I mean, and you know when
<v Speaker 4>I when I'm you my students, I always say, you know,
<v Speaker 4>don't work in a vacuum. Don't just do it just
<v Speaker 4>to be doing it by road. Always have something in
<v Speaker 4>your mind, because, believe me, one can hear.
<v Speaker 1>When you don't have.
<v Speaker 4>A thought in your head, all you are doing is
<v Speaker 4>regurgitating a line. I could have read it for what
<v Speaker 4>I got from you, you know, Well.
<v Speaker 1>That's some stage.
<v Speaker 4>Well the point of view if even if it's wrong,
<v Speaker 4>you learn something, you know, you learn, well that wasn't that?
<v Speaker 1>That was? Now you know what not to now you
<v Speaker 1>know what not to do.
<v Speaker 4>But if you don't do something, you know, make a choice,
<v Speaker 4>nothing ventured, nothing gain, you know, I means and listen,
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know you don't always, you know, spend
<v Speaker 4>hours of time thinking about every line. But you should
<v Speaker 4>spend some time with yeah, you know you should. You
<v Speaker 4>should have some idea, don't don't come to the table.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah nothing, Yeah you know, yeah, it sure is, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And I used to one of my problems that I've
<v Speaker 1>always had. I used to be in plays all the time,
<v Speaker 1>I mean even as a kid. But I just I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. I don't have a good memory.
<v Speaker 1>And I mean not just like recently, I mean like
<v Speaker 1>when I was ten, you know. So so what accidentally
<v Speaker 1>kind of happened is I ended up being a pretty
<v Speaker 1>good ad liver because I would keep it because I knew, well,
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was something about going out there and
<v Speaker 1>slopping the hogs and doing something over there, and then
<v Speaker 1>then there were cows involved. I remember there was in
<v Speaker 1>a show called Crazy Cricket Farm, and I couldn't think
<v Speaker 1>of it, and I heard the dialogue leading up to it,
<v Speaker 1>leading up to it, and I blurted out something, well,
<v Speaker 1>we gotta go out there. I'm gonna go milk the
<v Speaker 1>chickens and oh wait, no, we can't shit. I mean sorry,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go, you know, And I just walked up
<v Speaker 1>the st age and it was dead silence anyways going
<v Speaker 1>did that ten year old just say? Ship, there's something
<v Speaker 1>you know? So you know, what are you gonna do? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>I left town up and left. I just left.
<v Speaker 2>Can't show your face anymore? Oh god, ten year old failure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that wasn't a good farm hand.
<v Speaker 3>That's funny, that's funny, painful.
<v Speaker 1>So is there anything did I ask you this? Did
<v Speaker 1>we have anything to look up? Look forward to? You
<v Speaker 1>you're going to, whether it's conventions.
<v Speaker 4>Or oh I am going to be can you talk
<v Speaker 4>about something? I am to a convention in Utah this
<v Speaker 4>coming Thursday, Okay, Thursday through Saturday, Salt Lake City, Salt
<v Speaker 4>Lake City, I've heard of it, and then the next one,
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm going to one in Dallas, I think.
<v Speaker 1>In a couple of weeks. Yeah, Now, which of your characters,
<v Speaker 1>whether animated or on screen or what have which, Especially
<v Speaker 1>when you go to conventions like that, who do they
<v Speaker 1>jump on? Who do they glom onto? It all depends,
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 4>You know, this is the fortieth anniversary of the thing,
<v Speaker 4>mm hmm. And so the last couple of conventions, I
<v Speaker 4>got a lot of Childs, a lot of things, and
<v Speaker 4>and a lot of Goliath because this is thirtieth anniversary
<v Speaker 4>of Oh wow, so that was that was a quick
<v Speaker 4>forty years, h right, And I think it's around it's
<v Speaker 4>around thirty years for In fact, it's definitely thirty years
<v Speaker 4>for Mary.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and mm hmm. May work. Yeah, that's great.
<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, you know, for some reason, they've been
<v Speaker 4>cropping up a lot, like but.
<v Speaker 1>I get I also get a lot of Platoon m
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, oh yeah, I would think some milestones there, man.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, listen that no complaints and no regrets, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, you know this, nobody nobody promised you
<v Speaker 4>anything in this life, the fact that you can. You know,
<v Speaker 4>one of my teachers used to say that I cannot
<v Speaker 4>guarantee that you will be rich and you can believe
<v Speaker 4>all that stuff you know, you see in the papers,
<v Speaker 4>but if you work hard, you can make a living.
<v Speaker 4>And and sometimes that's not always true. I mean, you know,
<v Speaker 4>you know, but one of my ambitions used to be
<v Speaker 4>to work in the regions. I used to want to
<v Speaker 4>work all over the country and different you know, uh.
<v Speaker 1>That didn't fruition, like the Catskills and all that I
<v Speaker 1>think I.
<v Speaker 4>Was, you know, I just wanted just out of curiosity,
<v Speaker 4>but I want, you know, like, but an opportunity just
<v Speaker 4>came up and that I might be able to play
<v Speaker 4>the Guthrie.
<v Speaker 1>A year or so.
<v Speaker 4>That'd be very nice, you know, some of the some
<v Speaker 4>of the you know, more reputable regional theaters, you know.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, but again, I've been I've been lucky at
<v Speaker 4>touring plays all over the country and some wonderful cities
<v Speaker 4>around the world. You know, I've got you know what
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Like I said, it ain't no Booby prize.
<v Speaker 4>When when I finally get to meet Saint Peter, I'm
<v Speaker 4>just I'm just gonna say thank you. I had a
<v Speaker 4>great time, really really good time. So whatever happens after this,
<v Speaker 4>that's okay too.
<v Speaker 3>That's a great philosophy.
<v Speaker 1>That's great. Well, you know, that's perfect.
<v Speaker 4>You know, if you know, we you know, we make
<v Speaker 4>so much out of what's a Christian ethic, whether versus
<v Speaker 4>Muslim ethic, ethic or Jewish ethic. Basically, I mean, in
<v Speaker 4>every in every spiritual practice I have ever come across,
<v Speaker 4>it basically says, be good to your fellow man mm hm.
<v Speaker 4>Treat your neighbor as you would yourself, you know, be
<v Speaker 4>good to people, love your mother, love your father, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and honor God, the God of your understanding, whoever you
<v Speaker 4>think God is. And I mean, you know, the one
<v Speaker 4>of thing I love about you know, Islam is the
<v Speaker 4>you know, the God and me he greets the God.
<v Speaker 1>And you you.
<v Speaker 4>Know, you know I heard that one. Yeah, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 4>you know it's a it's no, it's a great way
<v Speaker 4>to look at the world. I mean, if you if
<v Speaker 4>you think that, if you think that we are all
<v Speaker 4>fingers on the hand of God, all of us like
<v Speaker 4>like drops in the ocean of God. And why do
<v Speaker 4>I want to be nasty to you?
<v Speaker 1>Well? Made it of the same stuff. I don't. I
<v Speaker 1>don't have to like you. I'm not gonna like it.
<v Speaker 4>But but but I don't have to go I can
<v Speaker 4>I can respect you as as just as as another
<v Speaker 4>human being on the planet, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got to interact with you.
<v Speaker 4>I don't to have lunch with you, you know, but
<v Speaker 4>I can say good morning to you and go about
<v Speaker 4>my way and everyone you know, and and there's nothing
<v Speaker 4>that keeps me from you know, perhaps I just want
<v Speaker 4>to smile saying how are you? You know, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know if you've had that experience,
<v Speaker 4>but I know that that there are times when Bill
<v Speaker 4>Willis got that great song. A smile from you might
<v Speaker 4>make these blues go away. You know, I don't have
<v Speaker 4>to know you to get there. You know something, you know,
<v Speaker 4>somebody smiled at me just now.
<v Speaker 1>For me.
<v Speaker 4>I take that again as a god shot, because usually
<v Speaker 4>that happens when I'm having a particularly low moment and
<v Speaker 4>I'm feeling less than an.
<v Speaker 1>Unworried and then you know, somebody up there noticed. You know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'll send you a little bonemark.
<v Speaker 4>You know that movie A Double Life Ronald Coleman. Mm hmm,
<v Speaker 4>that's about an actor who plays a fellow. Finally, as
<v Speaker 4>he's dying, he says, funny the things that goes through
<v Speaker 4>one head.
<v Speaker 1>Just don't let him say I was a bad actor.
<v Speaker 1>Don't let him other than that, that's a great line. Wow. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>well that's like, yeah, not that, it's it's an actor's joking.
<v Speaker 1>And he says the guy says to it's like, he goes, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I know, I get it. I get the whole assassination thing.
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, how did you like the show?
<v Speaker 1>Missus Lincoln? Okay, I get the bet with that one part,
<v Speaker 1>but how was I jesus, Oh that's incredible. Yeah, well
<v Speaker 1>thanks for being here.
<v Speaker 3>Man, Yeah, thank you very much. That was a fun time.
<v Speaker 1>Soat talking to you so great.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm glad you could make it too.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that was a great surprise. Yeah. I was
<v Speaker 1>relegating myself to damn well, next week maybe you know whatever,
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens. Walk out near there. I go, oh, hell, okay,
<v Speaker 1>let's do that.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, indeed, all right, and you guys are right down
<v Speaker 4>the block. I live right down the blo oh perfect.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.
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