Preparing for Fall – Summer Gardening Tasks

<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from Studio A Here at proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs.
<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella me,
<v Speaker 1>Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacy,
<v Speaker 1>I saw a friend post this spring is too wet,
<v Speaker 1>summer's too hot, Winter's a disaster. Autumn is perfect. And
<v Speaker 1>today we talk about fall preparation for many people arguably
<v Speaker 1>their favorite time of the year. And of course, you
<v Speaker 1>know I come from the garden center industry, and so
<v Speaker 1>for years, oh, i'd say about an eight week period
<v Speaker 1>in spring. I work morning, noon, and night all week long.
<v Speaker 1>So I always embrace the fall season to do my
<v Speaker 1>gardening work, to prepare my garden. I guess that makes
<v Speaker 1>me a fall guy. But I think September through November
<v Speaker 1>is the perfect time to garden. And we're going to
<v Speaker 1>explain that in today's show. As a matter of fact,
<v Speaker 1>for people after the heat of summer who have struggled
<v Speaker 1>with things like turf or their lawn, no better time
<v Speaker 1>of the year to rejuvenate, overseed or seed or develop
<v Speaker 1>that lawn that you've always wanted in your landscape. And
<v Speaker 1>fall is dramatic it's mystery, it's color stacy. I think
<v Speaker 1>that's why they call it awe toune sorry bad one
<v Speaker 1>right off the.
<v Speaker 2>Bad Yeah, well you're already stuck in one your prior
<v Speaker 2>to that, well, you know, the thing is, yeah, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's high summer for us being in the garden, and
<v Speaker 2>we look around. We see hydranges and rosa sharon and
<v Speaker 2>high biscus. It's summerrific week, by the way, So the
<v Speaker 2>summer perennial hibiscus are at peak minor looking amazing. But
<v Speaker 2>really from a plant perspective, because the days are getting
<v Speaker 2>shorter and the nights are already getting a little cooler.
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe not right now, but soon. From a plants perspective,
<v Speaker 2>autumn is much closer than it seems to us. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>so that's one of the reasons why we wanted to
<v Speaker 2>do this show. Plants are already starting to think, oh gee,
<v Speaker 2>fall is coming. We're not unless you go to like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the store and they've got all the Halloween
<v Speaker 2>candy out already. But you know, it's good to kind
<v Speaker 2>of get your ducks in a row, think think ahead
<v Speaker 2>to what you want to get done this fall, because
<v Speaker 2>we get a lot of questions from people, should I
<v Speaker 2>do this in spring? Should I do this now? Should
<v Speaker 2>I do it in fall? So we're going to answer
<v Speaker 2>them all exactly.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, enjoying fall is about being present in
<v Speaker 1>the moment. You know, in fall there's the the ubiquitous
<v Speaker 1>presence of football, and you've got fall hiking and colored
<v Speaker 1>tours and back to school and corn maize and cider
<v Speaker 1>and pumpkins.
<v Speaker 2>Apple picking. Yeah, I forget.
<v Speaker 1>They have a fall festivals, right, harvests, decorating all that stuff. Mums, yeah, home, mums,
<v Speaker 1>mumbelievable supermoons. I love taking pictures of the supermoons. There's
<v Speaker 1>a full moon in September, in October, and I think
<v Speaker 1>that's what I mean by the just the aura of
<v Speaker 1>the fall season. It's a great time not only for
<v Speaker 1>your plants, but also for you to be out there
<v Speaker 1>working in the yard. Because we understand also from our
<v Speaker 1>listeners and viewers there's a lot of people out there
<v Speaker 1>that are a little weary and maybe frustrated after the
<v Speaker 1>hot summer season.
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and I think you know, one of the
<v Speaker 2>advantages to gardening and fall, and I certainly experienced this
<v Speaker 2>myself last year, is everything's fresh in your mind. So
<v Speaker 2>this is what always happens to me. Spring comes and
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, all my perennials are little, they're
<v Speaker 2>not touching, and then by the time August rolls around,
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, yeah, I really should have moved that.
<v Speaker 2>I should have trusted summer Stacy when she said she
<v Speaker 2>wanted to move it in spring, didn't trust her. Now
<v Speaker 2>everything's all like, you know, muscling out to each other.
<v Speaker 2>If you do that in fall, it's all still fresh
<v Speaker 2>in your mind, and it's still a great time to
<v Speaker 2>move things, divide things, get rid of things, all that
<v Speaker 2>stuff that's.
<v Speaker 1>Right, bend over and split your plants. It's a great
<v Speaker 1>time of the year to do that. You know. I
<v Speaker 1>love And you've mentioned this before, Stacy Pete Odolph influential
<v Speaker 1>Dutch garden designer, and he uses those bold drifts of
<v Speaker 1>herbaceous perennials and ornamental grasses. It's so beautiful. And to
<v Speaker 1>stand out there in fall as the sun has set,
<v Speaker 1>maybe the moon's coming up, it's just so it's so beautiful.
<v Speaker 1>There's just something so magical about the fall season.
<v Speaker 2>I like it. It's not my favorite, okay. And I
<v Speaker 2>can see where you're coming from. But you know, to me,
<v Speaker 2>like I like getting back inside and baking, making cozy meals.
<v Speaker 2>But I have to say, right now, despite the heat,
<v Speaker 2>despite the dryness, this summer has been amazing in the garden.
<v Speaker 2>And right now it's peak. I mean, you go into
<v Speaker 2>my backyard, it's a bonanza of activity between the hummingbirds
<v Speaker 2>and the birds and insects and butterflies. I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's the peak of the season. So I
<v Speaker 2>don't I'm you know, I'm doing the show, but I'm
<v Speaker 2>not quite ready to go full fall.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And you know understand I love summer too.
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's it's probably my favorite time of
<v Speaker 1>the year. But when it comes to your landscape and
<v Speaker 1>your garden, plants for example, that are put in the
<v Speaker 1>ground in fall have a jump start over plants that
<v Speaker 1>you would obviously put in the ground in spring. In fall,
<v Speaker 1>generally the temperatures are cooler, the soil's nice and warm,
<v Speaker 1>we get natural rainfall, so it's the perfect time to
<v Speaker 1>try to establish things, whether it's turf or some flowering
<v Speaker 1>shrubs or some perennials, or put some bulbs in the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>One suggestion I have recommendation have some good lighting. I
<v Speaker 1>was looking this up. We lose daylight at the most
<v Speaker 1>rapid rate during the month of September. So, for example,
<v Speaker 1>here in West Michigan, September one, sunrise at seven oh
<v Speaker 1>seven am, sunset at eight sixteen pm. By the time
<v Speaker 1>you get to the end of the month, it's rising
<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty nine am setting at seven twenty four pm.
<v Speaker 1>So I recommend having some good lighting. I like those
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, those miners lights that you can put
<v Speaker 1>on your you know, on your head with led l Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>because especially if you're working and not in retirement, boy,
<v Speaker 1>you're by the time you get home from work, it's
<v Speaker 1>getting dark and you want to spend some time out
<v Speaker 1>in the yard. So it's a good way to go. Now,
<v Speaker 1>another thing Stacey is to make sure to use nature's bounty,
<v Speaker 1>and that is prepared to use all those leaves that
<v Speaker 1>are going to fall off the trees. I remember as
<v Speaker 1>a kid in the nineteen sixties, it was all about
<v Speaker 1>burning leaves and the thick smoke through the whole neighborhood.
<v Speaker 1>Now it's all about leaf blowers and the sound of
<v Speaker 1>leaf blowing. I like to rake leaves because it's great exercise,
<v Speaker 1>and we can use those leaves to smother turf areas
<v Speaker 1>if we wish, with some soil to prepare some new
<v Speaker 1>beds for next spring. Another thing to do in the
<v Speaker 1>landscape at this time of the year is to dead
<v Speaker 1>head some annuals. Some of those annuals still have life
<v Speaker 1>if you deadhead them and feed them. Some respond really
<v Speaker 1>well to cooler temperatures and will bloom like crazy for
<v Speaker 1>you well into October.
<v Speaker 2>Well. Not to mention, it's important to keep your annuals going,
<v Speaker 2>especially if you have annuals that attract hummingbirds, because they
<v Speaker 2>are going to be feeding like crazy in that late
<v Speaker 2>September timeframe as they get ready to migrate. So it
<v Speaker 2>could be tempting to be like, oh, hey, summer's over,
<v Speaker 2>I'm done with all of my nice summary stuff out
<v Speaker 2>of here, But the hummingbirds will thank you if you
<v Speaker 2>keep that going, and you'll be glad you did because
<v Speaker 2>the color changes completely too. Everything's so much brighter and
<v Speaker 2>more beautiful.
<v Speaker 1>And the monarch butterflies before they have south for winter.
<v Speaker 1>So deadhead those annuals. Plant some cool season annuals like pansies, Nomesia,
<v Speaker 1>even super tunas, ornamental kale, they'll do really well. Make
<v Speaker 1>note of fall bloomers like asters, solidago, ironweed, joe pie weed,
<v Speaker 1>little blue stem seedums, all these plants that you may
<v Speaker 1>want to add to your landscape for future years. And
<v Speaker 1>of course the color on the flowering shrubs. Stacey, should
<v Speaker 1>I say legend of the fall? Anyone? Oh?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? For fall fool age. And as we've said before,
<v Speaker 2>money times, roses really have a second season in fall.
<v Speaker 2>And if you haven't noticed this before, you really do
<v Speaker 2>need to check it out because it is wild what
<v Speaker 2>reblooming roses can do in fall compared to what you
<v Speaker 2>were just seeing over so.
<v Speaker 1>So a little bit of dead heading, maybe a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of feeding, and yes, you'll see those roses just
<v Speaker 1>beautiful in the fall season. All right. I prepared a
<v Speaker 1>fall preparation a rick for you. Oh, I wanted to
<v Speaker 1>quickly mention. Also it's something I just did yesterday. In August,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stores put the summer plants on sale
<v Speaker 1>and you can find incredible tropicals, bulb plants. I bought
<v Speaker 1>a bird of Paradise, some cannas, that sort of thing.
<v Speaker 1>And if you're willing to move them indoors in winter
<v Speaker 1>or store them. You have a great opportunity, and that's
<v Speaker 1>the great thing about fall gardening. Also, there's lots of
<v Speaker 1>bargains to be had.
<v Speaker 2>Can't deny that.
<v Speaker 1>All right, here's your limb a rick. Winter seemed to
<v Speaker 1>last forever and spring too short for each endeavor. Summer
<v Speaker 1>was too hot. Now you've got one shot. It's fall
<v Speaker 1>or never say never. Fall is the peak season to
<v Speaker 1>watch football for any reason. Just get out of the
<v Speaker 1>recliner at halftime. Don't be a whiner. What improvements can
<v Speaker 1>you squeeze in? Get going, improve your green thumbs, be
<v Speaker 1>ready when the time comes, be different, Be a go getter.
<v Speaker 1>You can do so much better than just buying a
<v Speaker 1>couple of moms.
<v Speaker 2>You're definitely gonna agree on that.
<v Speaker 1>And we can agree on that. Fall is so much
<v Speaker 1>more than chrysanthemums. We'll see how Stacey ties this in
<v Speaker 1>and plants on trial, and coming up in segment four
<v Speaker 1>will go down the list of things you can do
<v Speaker 1>to prepare for the fall season. That's all coming up
<v Speaker 1>on the Gardening Simplified Show.
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<v Speaker 2>back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where despite the fact
<v Speaker 2>that it is early August in the high of summer
<v Speaker 2>and everything is looking amazing, fall is not far and
<v Speaker 2>we aren't trying to rush it here. But we also
<v Speaker 2>know that people have a lot of questions about what
<v Speaker 2>they can do in fall, and then we tend to
<v Speaker 2>answer those in fall when maybe it's too late. So
<v Speaker 2>we wanted to give you a head start on planning
<v Speaker 2>your fall gardening weekends or evenings and know what you
<v Speaker 2>can do and what you should do. There's not necessarily
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, so of course when it comes to
<v Speaker 2>plants on trial, it's just to say plants that we're
<v Speaker 2>going to tell you about from the proven Winner's Color
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<v Speaker 2>add them to your garden. Today's is a tree Wow,
<v Speaker 2>and the reason why is because fall is a great
<v Speaker 2>time for planting trees.
<v Speaker 1>Well that's true. In fall, we're turning over a new leaf.
<v Speaker 2>And I think that, you know, especially for people who
<v Speaker 2>are maybe a little bit older, there is some you know,
<v Speaker 2>vestiges of ingrained beliefs that you shouldn't necessarily plant fall
<v Speaker 2>plant trees in fall, or certain trees shouldn't be planted
<v Speaker 2>in fall. But that actually goes back to when trees
<v Speaker 2>were mostly grown in fields, field grown instead of container
<v Speaker 2>grown and bald and burlept. And it was true that
<v Speaker 2>there were some trees like especially birch magnolia come to mind,
<v Speaker 2>that did not want to be dug up in fall,
<v Speaker 2>and that kind of made a lot of people just say, oh,
<v Speaker 2>don't plant trees in fall because they didn't want to remember,
<v Speaker 2>oh this is okay, but this isn't, or you know,
<v Speaker 2>so on and so forth. But the fact is, especially
<v Speaker 2>now that trees are pretty much exclusively grown in containers,
<v Speaker 2>at least the trees that most of us are buying
<v Speaker 2>at our local garden center. Since they're grown and containers,
<v Speaker 2>you can plant just about anything. So before I get
<v Speaker 2>into today's plant on trial, I did want to give
<v Speaker 2>a few caveats as to which trees you should not
<v Speaker 2>plant in fall. And this basically is our standard kind
<v Speaker 2>of avoid this in fall, anything that is a broad leaf. Now,
<v Speaker 2>of course, if you live in the South, you live
<v Speaker 2>in a mild of climate, you're gonna have no problem
<v Speaker 2>planting one of those fabulous evergreen magnolia is not going
<v Speaker 2>to be a problem for you because you have a
<v Speaker 2>mild climate. If you were to live in say the
<v Speaker 2>Midwest or someplace where those are kind of, you know,
<v Speaker 2>marginally hardy, or you're going to have a harsh winter,
<v Speaker 2>these are not plants that you want to put in infall.
<v Speaker 2>You want to put them in spring so they have
<v Speaker 2>a nice long season to get established before that challenging
<v Speaker 2>weather sets in. So avoid those broad leaf evergreens, anything
<v Speaker 2>that tends to get winter damage in your climate as well.
<v Speaker 2>So when I was trying to decide for the plant
<v Speaker 2>on trial today, one of my tree choices was potentially
<v Speaker 2>going to be a redbuds, our new Midnight Express redbud,
<v Speaker 2>beautiful plant. But I have found very often, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if you've seen this too, that redbuds often get
<v Speaker 2>winter damage, even though they're native here and grow all
<v Speaker 2>over the place. When I have had them, small small
<v Speaker 2>plants that have gotten for free, like from the power
<v Speaker 2>company giveaway. They've often gotten winter damage and not come
<v Speaker 2>back entirely. And then along those same lines, anything that
<v Speaker 2>you are pushing the hardiness for. So if you're right
<v Speaker 2>on the edge of being hardy in your area, another
<v Speaker 2>plant that you're gonna want to save until spring to plant.
<v Speaker 2>But outside of those caveats, you can plant pretty much
<v Speaker 2>anything in fall, including today's plant on trial, pink snowshowers,
<v Speaker 2>weeping cherry.
<v Speaker 1>I love that, and you know I wanted to add
<v Speaker 1>to that, Stacey. Yes, if it's a deciduous tree or
<v Speaker 1>deciduous plant, odds are you're going to have pretty good luck.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even some conifers.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because winter follows fall and that's a resting, dormant period.
<v Speaker 1>Whereas if you put it in the ground in spring, boy,
<v Speaker 1>you've got the duress of summer coming yep.
<v Speaker 2>And you know the plant then is putting its energy
<v Speaker 2>into flowering and growing and doing all this other stuff,
<v Speaker 2>Whereas if you plant and fall, the plant is primarily
<v Speaker 2>putting its energy into roots, which is going to help
<v Speaker 2>it get established. Now, another reason that I chose pink snowshowers,
<v Speaker 2>weeping flowering cherry or ornamental cherry is because a great
<v Speaker 2>thing that you can do for your spring self in
<v Speaker 2>fall is the plant spring flowering tree. Sure, and then
<v Speaker 2>you'll be able to look forward to it because it
<v Speaker 2>should flower without missing a beat that same spring. So
<v Speaker 2>it's like planting wolves.
<v Speaker 1>Gardeners never get old because they always have something to
<v Speaker 1>look forward.
<v Speaker 2>It's so true. I've seen that happen with so many people.
<v Speaker 2>So this is a great investment in your spring. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I will say, weeping plants, maybe only second to variegation,
<v Speaker 2>are pretty polarizing. So what's your perspective on the weeping plants.
<v Speaker 1>Well, the problem with we I love weeping plants. I
<v Speaker 1>love like a weeping beach or, as you mentioned here,
<v Speaker 1>a weeping cherry. I love them provided you let them
<v Speaker 1>do their natural thing. When you start giving them a
<v Speaker 1>haircut and making them look like the beetles in the
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties, that's when I have a problem.
<v Speaker 2>People do that, and then it's kind of like going
<v Speaker 2>against the reason that you bought this beautiful, elegant weeping tree.
<v Speaker 2>I I am not the biggest fan of weeping weeping plants.
<v Speaker 2>I like them, but I realized as I was preparing
<v Speaker 2>for the show today that I like mature weeping plants,
<v Speaker 2>but I don't like young weeping plants. Oh, and that's
<v Speaker 2>a problem because you can't really get to the mature
<v Speaker 2>weeping plant without going through that awkward childhood and teenage
<v Speaker 2>years with your weeping plant. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>As we mature, we develop more and more character.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's it. I mean, you know, when
<v Speaker 2>they're young, they do look kind of funny, they look
<v Speaker 2>a little bit awkward. But you know, of course we've
<v Speaker 2>all seen gone to you know, arboretums or parks or
<v Speaker 2>public gardens where you see an absolutely stunning mature weeping
<v Speaker 2>cherry and you're just like, wow, that is going to
<v Speaker 2>turn into that. So I realized that was kind of
<v Speaker 2>my objection the weeping plants, not that I have an
<v Speaker 2>issue with them on its own. So that is a
<v Speaker 2>real revelation for me, in keeping with our recent series
<v Speaker 2>on revelation and inspiration.
<v Speaker 1>Good point. But the bottom line here, Stacy again is
<v Speaker 1>if it's a deciduous tree, fall is the time.
<v Speaker 2>To do it, definitely, And I think weeping plants also
<v Speaker 2>look really great with certain types of architecture more than others.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a classic choice. If you have a
<v Speaker 2>mid century or brick ranch. I feel like that was
<v Speaker 2>like the thing to do, and therefore I really strongly
<v Speaker 2>associate it with that. But placement is so important, and
<v Speaker 2>then of course you've got the issue of color, you know,
<v Speaker 2>because pink flowers and red brick. That's up to you.
<v Speaker 2>But so another thing I wanted to say, weeping plants
<v Speaker 2>are all weeping trees are all grafted, which is to
<v Speaker 2>say that the front, the top parts, and the bottom
<v Speaker 2>part the trunk are not the same plant. Because weeping
<v Speaker 2>branches are generally weak and because they are weeping, if
<v Speaker 2>you didn't graft them, they would just be growing on
<v Speaker 2>the ground and you wouldn't have a treat. So they
<v Speaker 2>graft them on to another type of cherry in the
<v Speaker 2>case of weeping cherries, and that is sort of what
<v Speaker 2>gives them that kind of awkward teenage phase. And I
<v Speaker 2>did want to mention, especially with pink snow showers, if
<v Speaker 2>you look at our photos on our website or on
<v Speaker 2>our plant tags, what you're going to notice, and this
<v Speaker 2>is true of multiple weeping cherries. Sometimes the understock that
<v Speaker 2>they use the trunk basically can be a different type
<v Speaker 2>of cherry, so you might get one that has like
<v Speaker 2>a really beautiful shiny red trunk, or you might get
<v Speaker 2>one that's just plain gray. And it really just depends
<v Speaker 2>on what the grower used to graft them. So that's
<v Speaker 2>just something to keep in mind. If you're looking at
<v Speaker 2>the tag and you're like, wait a minute, this trunk
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like the trunk that is in front of me.
<v Speaker 2>What do I do about this? It's just simply a
<v Speaker 2>matter of the understock that the grower chose to use. Now,
<v Speaker 2>the nice thing about weepers, too, is that you shouldn't
<v Speaker 2>prune them.
<v Speaker 1>Correct and that would apply stacey basically to anything that
<v Speaker 1>blooms in spring. Definitely, let's not be pruning it in fall,
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a lilac or in this case.
<v Speaker 2>A weeping chair, right, And it does sometimes mean though,
<v Speaker 2>as far as pruning, they can revert. I have seen
<v Speaker 2>some understock come up. You'll see this a lot in spring.
<v Speaker 2>Driving around, You'll see these older cherry trees and they're
<v Speaker 2>flowering white and pink, and you're like, whoa, it's a miracle. Well, no,
<v Speaker 2>not quite. All that happened is that the understock shut
<v Speaker 2>up a white branch and the pink is somehow not overwhelmed.
<v Speaker 2>But if you do see that happening in your weeping cherry,
<v Speaker 2>whether it's today's plan on trial pink snow showers weeping cherry,
<v Speaker 2>or a different variety that you have in your yard,
<v Speaker 2>you should take the opportunity to get that out. And
<v Speaker 2>that can come out anytime. It doesn't really matter that
<v Speaker 2>much if you take it out now or it's spring
<v Speaker 2>or summer or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you'll see I call them water sprouts at
<v Speaker 1>the top of the tree at the graft where they
<v Speaker 1>just kind of stand straight up, So you've got to
<v Speaker 1>do some maintenance purning there.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's just something that goes with the tree.
<v Speaker 2>But that's also why they're so much better when they
<v Speaker 2>are mature. So as you can guess, pink snow Showers
<v Speaker 2>has pink flowers on lovely weeping branches. It starts out
<v Speaker 2>quite small, but it does get to be a really
<v Speaker 2>large tree. It's going to reach thirty to thirty five
<v Speaker 2>feet at maturity. So definitely one that you're going to
<v Speaker 2>want to cite appropriately. But popular, very easy to find
<v Speaker 2>in your local garden centers. It is hardy down to
<v Speaker 2>USDA Zone four and heat tolerant. Through USDA Zone eight.
<v Speaker 2>It is not dear resistant, as most flowering cherries and
<v Speaker 2>crab apples and all of those fabulous spring flowering shrubs
<v Speaker 2>also are not deer resistant. But if you have the
<v Speaker 2>right place for this, and if you love weeping plants,
<v Speaker 2>it is a classic choice with modern day performance. It
<v Speaker 2>is resistant to shothole disease, which is a funny little
<v Speaker 2>fungus that grows on the foliage and then the little
<v Speaker 2>fungal spot drops out and it looks like the thing
<v Speaker 2>just got shot up with a baby gun. So this
<v Speaker 2>is resistant to that. So if you've had issues with
<v Speaker 2>other cherries or other ornamentals in your yard, getting that
<v Speaker 2>peak snowshowers is a great choice. You will find it
<v Speaker 2>at your local garden center, hopefully at a great price
<v Speaker 2>since it is fall, but even if not, it is
<v Speaker 2>worth the investment in your time and money. We're going
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<v Speaker 2>I picked a pretty big and juicy question for the
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<v Speaker 2>litle bit of time to answer this.
<v Speaker 1>Well, Audrey writes to us, we just purchased a home
<v Speaker 1>with a few wooded acres near the lake shore in Holland, Michigan.
<v Speaker 1>For folks who watch and listen to us. For me,
<v Speaker 1>that's just north of where I live here along the
<v Speaker 1>lake shore, and we weren't able to view the property
<v Speaker 1>in person until just last week. We were concerned to
<v Speaker 1>find several dead and dying trees on the property. From
<v Speaker 1>what we can tell, it seems to be oak will.
<v Speaker 1>This is new to us, but seems to be a
<v Speaker 1>significant issue in the area and a considerable unexpected expense.
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice, guidance, or resources for how
<v Speaker 1>homeowners can properly treat and manage this issue? Well, I'll
<v Speaker 1>tell you, Stacy, I would you know right off the bat,
<v Speaker 1>make sure to employ There are so many wonderful professional
<v Speaker 1>arborous around, so engage those arborous to help you out
<v Speaker 1>with it. Timing is everything when pruning or cutting oaks,
<v Speaker 1>And just yesterday, yesterday myself and my neighbor we teamed
<v Speaker 1>up with an arborist and took out some oak trees
<v Speaker 1>that were dying on our properties. Important to employ a
<v Speaker 1>trained professional arborist when you're looking at doing something like.
<v Speaker 2>It is so important, And that was one of the
<v Speaker 2>reasons why I really wanted to answer this question. I
<v Speaker 2>don't think we've really talked too much about oak welt.
<v Speaker 2>It's been around since the nineteen forties here in Michigan,
<v Speaker 2>but it has really started to reach much bigger proportions.
<v Speaker 2>And there are so many great arborists. And if you
<v Speaker 2>go through like the ISA, the International Society of Arborists,
<v Speaker 2>or an accredited institution like that, you're probably getting someone
<v Speaker 2>who knows what they're doing. But there are definitely a
<v Speaker 2>lot of arborists out there that don't. And if you
<v Speaker 2>have oaks in your property, you should ask any arborists
<v Speaker 2>to leave promptly if they suggest pruiting or removing them.
<v Speaker 2>Anytime outside of basically the November to March timeframe that
<v Speaker 2>is the biggest aspect of managing oak wilt. But let
<v Speaker 2>me back up a minute here, Audrey, because I will say,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was looking at a map of confirmed
<v Speaker 2>oak wilt cases, and Holland is not really quite a hotbed.
<v Speaker 2>There's been a couple of cases that are confirmed, and
<v Speaker 2>of course not every case that happens is necessarily going
<v Speaker 2>to be confirmed. Most of the confirmed and treated cases
<v Speaker 2>are on the north side of Holland. So I'm seeing
<v Speaker 2>this because I wouldn't necessarily be so quick to assume
<v Speaker 2>it is oak wilt because one of the issues that
<v Speaker 2>we have had out here in West Michigan over the
<v Speaker 2>past couple of years is a terrible spongey moth infestation.
<v Speaker 2>Now this year they kind of they go and boom
<v Speaker 2>bust population cycles. They are in a bust year. I
<v Speaker 2>have hardly seen a single one, and after years of
<v Speaker 2>having our oaks just completely to full the point in
<v Speaker 2>the season. But of course after several years of being
<v Speaker 2>preyed upon by spongey moths formerly known as the gypsy moth,
<v Speaker 2>that starts to set them back because they lose all
<v Speaker 2>of their foliage. And I think this year, especially coupled
<v Speaker 2>with a drought that we have had. Just because you
<v Speaker 2>may have struggling or dying oaks in your yard doesn't
<v Speaker 2>necessarily mean it's oak will.
<v Speaker 1>In some cases it's just plain old decline in some
<v Speaker 1>of the trees. As I mentioned, we took out some
<v Speaker 1>trees and I think it was declined. So you're very
<v Speaker 1>right in that, Stacey, don't make the assumption that it's
<v Speaker 1>oak will.
<v Speaker 2>But of course we are going to put some resources
<v Speaker 2>for you in the notes on YouTube there so that
<v Speaker 2>you can look this up. First of all, I would
<v Speaker 2>say identify the oaks if you can, because oak wilt
<v Speaker 2>it can affect any kind of oak, but it is
<v Speaker 2>far and away more prevalent a bigger pest of red
<v Speaker 2>oaks than white oaks. So if you have white oaks,
<v Speaker 2>I would be less inclined to think that it was
<v Speaker 2>oak wilt than if they were red oaks. Now, if
<v Speaker 2>you go online in the resources that we're going to
<v Speaker 2>share with you, the main like kind of actual diagnosis
<v Speaker 2>that people use is to cut open the bark, not
<v Speaker 2>really something that the average homeowner probably has the equipment
<v Speaker 2>or knowledge to do, but you can look at the
<v Speaker 2>foliage and because oak wilt does cause the plant to
<v Speaker 2>cause the foliage to fall off with a pretty distinctive
<v Speaker 2>pattern to it. So compared to just falling brown or green,
<v Speaker 2>it kind of has this like very zonal green and
<v Speaker 2>brown and orange. You'll see pictures of it storm. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what it is, like like a sky
<v Speaker 2>with all of that color in there. And so that
<v Speaker 2>of course would mean that you were seeing that on
<v Speaker 2>the foliage on the ground. And this is pretty much
<v Speaker 2>the time that an oak with oak wilt will have
<v Speaker 2>dropped its leaves or be starting to drop its leaves.
<v Speaker 2>So take a close look underneath and look for that. Again,
<v Speaker 2>that would not be the actual absolute confirmation of oak wilt,
<v Speaker 2>but it is a sign that the average person can
<v Speaker 2>look for, you know, pretty easily. But yet, if you
<v Speaker 2>can also look for vertical cracks in the bark, and
<v Speaker 2>that would mean that I was already infected for at
<v Speaker 2>least a year. But they're pretty distinctive. Of course, they
<v Speaker 2>might be way up, so you might want to get
<v Speaker 2>a pair of binoculars. But if you have oak wilt,
<v Speaker 2>it is time to call it an arborist. There's really
<v Speaker 2>not much else to be said aside from that, because yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you know, as you mentioned Audrey, it is a significant
<v Speaker 2>expense if you need to manage a lot of trees.
<v Speaker 2>But if you're going with a good arborist and they
<v Speaker 2>know what they're doing, they can take care of them
<v Speaker 2>for you. And hopefully that's not the case. But everyone
<v Speaker 2>really in West Michigan should be aware of oak wilt
<v Speaker 2>and what to look for, especially if you have oaks
<v Speaker 2>in your property.
<v Speaker 1>And as you pointed out, Stacey, there's a big difference
<v Speaker 1>between pruning and taking out a tree all together, and
<v Speaker 1>that pruning there are people who will argue that window
<v Speaker 1>is April through July, but I completely agree with you.
<v Speaker 1>I would just stick to that November to March timeframe
<v Speaker 1>to be safe as it relates.
<v Speaker 2>To complete dormancy ies. And again, most arboris are probably
<v Speaker 2>going to be too busy doing non oak related stuff
<v Speaker 2>in that other time period anyway. So there you know,
<v Speaker 2>it kind of works out well for them that the
<v Speaker 2>times they'd otherwise not have a lot to do, they
<v Speaker 2>can work on pruning or managing oak.
<v Speaker 1>Wild's best time to hire though. Okay, Lindsay's writing to us,
<v Speaker 1>I'm reaching out regarding my baptisia. I purchased this in
<v Speaker 1>the spring and planted it in a spot where I'd
<v Speaker 1>misjudged its sun exposure. It also was attacked by wind
<v Speaker 1>pretty early in the season. My question is, if I'm
<v Speaker 1>correct that the issue is light exposure, Am I I
<v Speaker 1>able to move the plant to a sunnier location yet
<v Speaker 1>this year? Or do I need to wait until spring?
<v Speaker 1>Anything in particular I should keep in mind when trying
<v Speaker 1>to move it to set it up for success.
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So I first of all, I thought this was
<v Speaker 2>a great question to answer for our Fall task LISZ episode.
<v Speaker 2>And second of all, I'm excited to answer this question
<v Speaker 2>from a personal perspective because I have moved Baptisia multiple
<v Speaker 2>times in my life, once in spring during COVID when
<v Speaker 2>we were in a gardening frenzy. The plants survived, but
<v Speaker 2>they were not very happy about it. Whereas I moved
<v Speaker 2>a very established Baptisia's last fall, and I was amazed
<v Speaker 2>at how they came into spring without missing a beat.
<v Speaker 2>It was like I had not even moved them. And
<v Speaker 2>that's saying something because they have extensive, deep root systems
<v Speaker 2>that are really really hard to take out thoroughly, so
<v Speaker 2>you're always going to have some breakage, You're always going
<v Speaker 2>to have some root loss with these plants, no matter
<v Speaker 2>how how careful you are. But honestly, I couldn't believe
<v Speaker 2>my eyes when these things came out this spring. It
<v Speaker 2>was like they had not even missed a beat. And
<v Speaker 2>that was plants that had been in the ground for
<v Speaker 2>about five years. So your plant being in its first year,
<v Speaker 2>not going to have any trouble, you know, moving that
<v Speaker 2>this fall. Now. I moved mine here in West Michigan
<v Speaker 2>in probably mid September. You can do it anywhere up
<v Speaker 2>through about mid October, I would say, but I would
<v Speaker 2>definitely wait until, you know, those days are starting to
<v Speaker 2>get much shorter and the temperatures are starting to get cooler.
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite things to do in fall move plants,
<v Speaker 1>rearrange plants, dig them up, divide them baptizia or whatever
<v Speaker 1>type of perennial it may be. I've had great success
<v Speaker 1>doing that, Stacey, along with the plants that I've bought
<v Speaker 1>off the bargain shelf in fall and put in the
<v Speaker 1>ground again. Fall just the perfect time to do that
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. So I would encourage Lindsay to move
<v Speaker 1>it this.
<v Speaker 2>Fall, definitely, And the only caveat I would really have
<v Speaker 2>that I found the last year was you do have
<v Speaker 2>to be careful because the plant, believe it or not,
<v Speaker 2>is already setting its buds for next year. So as
<v Speaker 2>you dig it, you'll actually be able to see those
<v Speaker 2>buds already developing on the root mass. So you want
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that you are minimizing your disturbance because
<v Speaker 2>any of those that you break off will mean something
<v Speaker 2>that would have grown but now won't. But it's not difficult.
<v Speaker 2>You'll see it. So as with any transplanting process, be careful,
<v Speaker 2>pay attention, and you should have success.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little mulch at the base also, man.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, mulch is always a good idea. You bet. We're
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. Okay, Stacy, so
<v Speaker 1>I consider fall not the end, but maybe even the
<v Speaker 1>beginning of a great garden and lawn in your landscape.
<v Speaker 1>Like we've said, plants that are put in the ground
<v Speaker 1>establishment are going to work on developing roots instead of
<v Speaker 1>a focus on top growth like you see in spring.
<v Speaker 1>So let me mention first of all, as far as
<v Speaker 1>turf is concerned, if your lawn is lawn gone after
<v Speaker 1>the heat of summer, perfect time to fix your lawn
<v Speaker 1>is August through October. I'm talking about core, air raiding, receding,
<v Speaker 1>repairing an existing lawn. And the knock on turf in
<v Speaker 1>our landscapes generally is the amount of work, the amount
<v Speaker 1>of inputs that you have to put into the lawn,
<v Speaker 1>the expense, and I'm thinking primarily as far as water
<v Speaker 1>is concerned, so for more sustainability, if you want some
<v Speaker 1>turf in your landscape, fall is the time to establish.
<v Speaker 1>Fall is the time to feed. During the summer, we
<v Speaker 1>raise the deck on the more, have the grass as
<v Speaker 1>long as you possibly can have in fall. Progressively, as
<v Speaker 1>the season continues we start to lower the height of
<v Speaker 1>the deck so we don't get things like snow mold
<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing during the wintertime when the
<v Speaker 1>snow packs it down, but just the ideal time for germination,
<v Speaker 1>root development, feeding your lawn. I know every year I
<v Speaker 1>would when I had a sizable lawn in late fall,
<v Speaker 1>I would apply malorganite. The Milwaukee sewage staff, yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>I would apply it, and then invariably in January we
<v Speaker 1>would have a winter thaw. For folks who do not
<v Speaker 1>live in the north, you have to understand that in winter,
<v Speaker 1>snow is the great equalizer. Everybody's yard looks the same
<v Speaker 1>in winter. Generally we would get a January thaw, and
<v Speaker 1>up and down the street, everybody's lawns would be brown.
<v Speaker 1>Mine would be dark green, and everybody would be asking me, hey, Rick,
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing now on your list? In fall
<v Speaker 1>also weed control. Again, many people attack weeds in spring
<v Speaker 1>and only get top kill, or they're killing winter annuals
<v Speaker 1>that are going to die anyhow So fall, identifying weeds,
<v Speaker 1>whether they be dandelions or winter annuals, and getting at
<v Speaker 1>those weeds in fall will make a huge difference in
<v Speaker 1>weed control on your property. It's you know, I always say,
<v Speaker 1>take me to your weader. Well, your weader is fall.
<v Speaker 1>The fall season the ideal time to deal with weeds.
<v Speaker 1>And remember many of the weeds they sy like perennial
<v Speaker 1>weeds are like the trees. They're preparing for winter too,
<v Speaker 1>let's say a dandelion, and they're sending their food reserves
<v Speaker 1>into the root system. So if you do selectively use
<v Speaker 1>an herbicide on the weeds, you're going to get better
<v Speaker 1>translocation into the root system and again get better control
<v Speaker 1>as far as weeds are concerned. So I think as
<v Speaker 1>far as turf is concerned, if you want good sustainability
<v Speaker 1>but a nice thick lawn, falls the time to do it.
<v Speaker 2>You know. I would add to that that if you're
<v Speaker 2>considering any kind of alternative lawn, if you're considering adding
<v Speaker 2>clover to your lawn or doing some kind of flour
<v Speaker 2>meadow or something like that, falls also the time to
<v Speaker 2>do that. And if you look at any website, like
<v Speaker 2>a prairie website that sells seed mixes for doing just this,
<v Speaker 2>they always recommend fall. So it's not just grass. If
<v Speaker 2>you're looking to do this other kind of stuff, Fall
<v Speaker 2>is a great time to do that too.
<v Speaker 1>Cover crops, Yeah, that sort of thing. Take a look
<v Speaker 1>at that. And one of the number one questions that
<v Speaker 1>I would get through the years at this time of
<v Speaker 1>the year is. People really do struggle with do I
<v Speaker 1>cut it back or not, whether it be bud lea
<v Speaker 1>or ornamental grasses. Now I like to enjoy them in
<v Speaker 1>the wintertime and cut them back in spring, but other
<v Speaker 1>perennials also doing some selective cleanup. Obviously, on herbaceous perennials,
<v Speaker 1>you're really not going to make a mistake because they're
<v Speaker 1>going to die back to the ground anyhow. But that's
<v Speaker 1>one of the top questions that we get and don't
<v Speaker 1>forget about planting bulbs. Of course, we love to plant
<v Speaker 1>garlic in fall. That's a great thing to plant. But
<v Speaker 1>any of your bulbs, putting them in the ground, tulips, daffodil's, crocus, hyacinths, aliens, whatever,
<v Speaker 1>it may be perfect time, of course to plant in fall,
<v Speaker 1>and then you're rewarded in spring with beautiful color. Some
<v Speaker 1>people struggle with the fact that rodents or squirrels will
<v Speaker 1>dig up their bulbs when they've put them in the ground.
<v Speaker 1>So I've always wrapped them in a chicken wire mesh.
<v Speaker 1>Just dug a hole, laid some chicken wire in it,
<v Speaker 1>put the bulbs in, fold the wire over and it
<v Speaker 1>seems to work, really, really well, and I think you've
<v Speaker 1>got a bear in mind that in fall, and this
<v Speaker 1>is noted as a matter of fact at our website
<v Speaker 1>Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. We'll put the link there.
<v Speaker 1>It's something from the University of Michigan. It's about squirrels
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that squirrels their brain power increases by
<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent in the fall, and they're out there, of course,
<v Speaker 1>busy planting for the future, and they have this headflick. Now,
<v Speaker 1>I found that this is really interesting. I always thought
<v Speaker 1>that squirrels would rub the acorn on the side of
<v Speaker 1>their head so that they could leave their scent on
<v Speaker 1>that acorn and find it later. But my theory is
<v Speaker 1>all wet. Basically, what they're saying is they do they
<v Speaker 1>do this head flick and this rub to assess whether
<v Speaker 1>or not the acorns that they have collected are worthy
<v Speaker 1>to just eat right now or store them away for winter.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was in it.
<v Speaker 2>They're like somaliers deciding if the wine should be aged
<v Speaker 2>or consume right away, but for acorns.
<v Speaker 1>So they're smart. They're smart, so maybe follow the example
<v Speaker 1>of the squirrels. Also, I think if you're living in
<v Speaker 1>the north or the Midwest, being aware of the position
<v Speaker 1>of the sun in winter and also the direction of
<v Speaker 1>the wind, because that does allow of damage to plant stacey.
<v Speaker 1>And when we look at things like southwest disease, the
<v Speaker 1>splitting of the bark on trees. Putting tree wraps on
<v Speaker 1>from October through the winter period will many times time
<v Speaker 1>keep that splitting of trunks from occurring. So I think
<v Speaker 1>that that's an important thing to look at too, especially
<v Speaker 1>broad leaf evergreens if they're on a southern or western exposure.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe some anti deseconate sprays.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know, it's interesting that you mentioned that because
<v Speaker 2>there is a property that I pass on my way
<v Speaker 2>to work every day that in the winter I could
<v Speaker 2>see the sun just beating down on these couple of
<v Speaker 2>plants in this hedge of green giant arborvidies, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, those look so weird. And it turns
<v Speaker 2>out those were the exact ones that died because that
<v Speaker 2>sun was warming them up. And there's nothing you can
<v Speaker 2>really do about that, you know, if you're trying to
<v Speaker 2>plant a hedge, but perhaps you could try something to
<v Speaker 2>fill in those holes that is less likely to use water,
<v Speaker 2>like a more needle leaf juniper compared to the more
<v Speaker 2>scale leaf arborviti, something with a more reduced leaf surface.
<v Speaker 1>I want to encourage people to, you know, if we've
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this previously in the show Stacey, but if you
<v Speaker 1>have some plants that need to be moved or they're
<v Speaker 1>crowding out, maybe doing a little root pruning in advance
<v Speaker 1>in August and then eventually moving the plant in September
<v Speaker 1>and October, or preparing the new site where they're going
<v Speaker 1>to be moved when temperatures are cooler and we're getting
<v Speaker 1>natural rainfall. I just you know, I've always joked about
<v Speaker 1>the fact that many plants in my landscape have been
<v Speaker 1>moved so many times they're eligible for frequent Flyer miles.
<v Speaker 1>But it's true, and it's fun and it's fun to rearrange.
<v Speaker 1>And folks, this is your opportunity right here, and I'd
<v Speaker 1>seize the moment.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like I said, especially since things are
<v Speaker 2>fresh in your mind, you know, compared to spring, where
<v Speaker 2>you're thinking, oh, that would look really good if I
<v Speaker 2>divided that and moved part over here. You know, now
<v Speaker 2>it actually makes sense to you. Whereas if you try
<v Speaker 2>to remember what things were like in spring, you know,
<v Speaker 2>all those months have gone by, you completely forget. So
<v Speaker 2>it's a great opportunity to take the things that you've
<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed or noticed as you've been appreciating the garden
<v Speaker 2>through the growing season and invest that observation and knowledge
<v Speaker 2>into previous seasons. I am saying this for my own
<v Speaker 2>benefit as much as yours, because this is definitely something
<v Speaker 2>I can't get away with letting slide until spring next year.
<v Speaker 2>I'm learning my lesson this year.
<v Speaker 1>I probably here well said, and you know you can.
<v Speaker 1>If they're woody plants. You can take some of the
<v Speaker 1>size out of the plants by pruning them back and
<v Speaker 1>making the move easier. Yes, you may be sacrificing some
<v Speaker 1>blooms for next spring, but if it has to move,
<v Speaker 1>it has to move, and then Stacey. In spring, we're
<v Speaker 1>often talking about hardening off plants, moving them from the
<v Speaker 1>comfortable environment of a greenhouse into the great outdoors and
<v Speaker 1>being subject to cold and wind. Well, now in fall
<v Speaker 1>the reverse is true. You kind of harden off plants
<v Speaker 1>that have been out on the deck, tropical plants, prepare
<v Speaker 1>to move them in side where there's less light, less
<v Speaker 1>day length, cleaning the plants, possibly repotting them inspecting for insects.
<v Speaker 1>All important to carry over some of those plants over
<v Speaker 1>the winter.
<v Speaker 2>Period, definitely get them ready for their indoor vacation.
<v Speaker 1>So it may still be hot outside, but you've got
<v Speaker 1>some work to do, and you've got some thinking to do,
<v Speaker 1>and you have an opportunity to seize one of the best,
<v Speaker 1>if not the best season of the year to be
<v Speaker 1>gardening and landscaping fall. So Stacy, I guess we better
<v Speaker 1>get to work.
<v Speaker 2>I'll do it all right.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for watching the Gardening Simplified Show
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, listening on podcast or radio. Thank you Stacy,
<v Speaker 1>thank you X, thank you Adriana, and thanks most of
<v Speaker 1>all to you for your support of the show. Have
<v Speaker 1>a great week.