John Leguizamo on playing Pablo Escobar, 'Carlito's Way' & starring in 'Empire' with Fat Joe

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Speaker 1: I didn't like the movie the first time I saw. We are to the movie that I'm telling you that's a left.

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Speaker 2: Turn on the highway.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying the highway slide a flag on the plate? Two flags, that's three flags? Hell?

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Speaker 2: Why what the fuck you mean you didn't like it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, what up?

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Speaker 3: Y'all?

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Speaker 4: This is your boy. Joe Cracked the Dawn.

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Speaker 5: You know who it is?

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Speaker 6: Your boy Jada kissed the Joe and Jada's show, Every show, legendary, every show.

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Speaker 2: I kind of stoppable to your mortals this year, and.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what y'all want.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all gonna be able to handle what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: You know, the apology is always less louder than the initiation. You know, the apology, but guy, get continued.

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Speaker 6: You think of today's guests, right, You think funny, You think Queens, New York. You think one man shows like Freak, You think Broadway movie screens and now a Spanish language series on Hulu called Dead Killing Nannies. You think of a man who turned pain into punchlines and built the whole career, and nobody can argue. You think about today's guests. You think I come ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Bendy Blanco from the Browns.

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Speaker 5: Definitely you're doing that right now. You're kidding me. You had one.

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Speaker 6: When you think of today's guest, fucking Benny Blanco, the Sny Blanco from the Bronx.

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Speaker 5: This so much for our coaching, is it? John?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: That was great? What a great injo. I'm like, I'm embarrassed.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You guys are the best.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm a family.

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Speaker 6: Thanks thanks for joining the couch with me and my brother. Uh. Production staff is like the Avengers day. They do a great job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got a serious staff here, man, This is insane. How many people got here? That's a big payroll varies.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Some artists come up in here with entourage of like forty. You know, I'm older, so I've been through every failure.

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Speaker 5: You've seen it all. You've seen it all for real.

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Speaker 1: So when i see them come in here with a forty clip, I'm immediately.

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Speaker 2: Thinking they're doing the math of that.

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Speaker 5: You do?

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Speaker 3: How much is that your hotel rooms?

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Speaker 2: My family?

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Speaker 3: They're still gonna be on the payroll somehow, Bro and the gas on what I'm because that's you vs and the Ubers. That costs money too. Yes, they get hungry too. Ash always gets hungry, yo. And you don't want to eat what they eat. You want to eat what you want to eat, and where you want to eat is way more expensive. So that's one hundred bucks a pop. She got forty deep times one hundred dollars a person.

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Speaker 1: Nah, sometimes a female artist coming in here with thirty people, and I'm just you know the way I do it now, I'm old man. It's like I'm sitting on the porch here, I'm looking at it. I'm like, yo, yeah, shit costed. This is a cautionary tale about to happen. Yeah, yeah, oh you know what I mean, Like you know, have you know I help people all the time.

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Speaker 2: Helps people all this That's what I hear on the street.

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Speaker 1: It's the truth, I know, Like I mean truth, like you know, when I go, when I go to heaven, when I go to meet the man, you know, not for a long time. Yeah, but I hope I get you know, some of these homeless. You know, I got a routine of like homeless. You know, one day I'm hanging out with the royal family of Dubai, right. When they come to New York, they only hang out with Fat Joe. They like they have too, so they're like, Yo, Joe, let's go to a steakhouse. I'm like, no problem, I got my age show set up.

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Speaker 4: We're walking there.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day in New York and everybody's just walking up and they're like, yo Joe, and I'm like, honey, they don't that's not in Dubai that they don't Joe White, No, I don't know if they don't believe it.

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Speaker 4: Chat but what are you looking at these people coming up to you, Joe.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I know all of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do that ship every day in my life.

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Speaker 2: But that's good.

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Speaker 3: That's good giving. Yo's put out good. More good comes to you. You're generous, the world will be generous back. I mean, it's karma, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: That's how I feel. I think I should find a way to try to write that.

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Speaker 4: Off, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that would be the mathematics.

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Speaker 4: It counts homeless. They want cash man.

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Speaker 2: They're not like the casting charity. Cast charity.

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Speaker 3: It's a charitable donation. If I've o see one three ship, you know, not for profit.

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Speaker 1: You know, John, you want to know what's the craziest thing is what's the craziest thing, Joe, is that the man is he is giving you your intro and he says funny. And the last thing I think of John leg Guzamo for it because he plays such a gangster role in all these movies. It's funny, but the man's funny. I want to you the One Man Show, I see all your Ship? What was your father's name in the show?

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Speaker 5: My father's name?

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Speaker 4: And the One Man Show Faster? What was that master?

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Speaker 2: Faster? But my father faster? Yo?

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Speaker 4: That ship was hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: But you know, why can't you do both? Why can't you be a comedian not faster?

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Speaker 2: You could do both.

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Speaker 3: You just have to work harder because they're both demand different things from you, and you just got to deliver on each aspect differently. It's like the athletes who can do football and basketball or baseball.

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Speaker 4: Now we appreciate you for both.

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, you got to change up your game anyhow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love All your Gangster Ship too. You know it wasn't my favorite game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody always talks about that scene when you pop this lever and the rifle flies out for the track of the couch and shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you the best part of that movie.

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Speaker 1: That that put me into like a space where I think one of my best, probably my very best gangster song I ever did, my Lifestyle. I wrote it whenever we had a break in the trailer because we was doing that movie and all that gangster ship was going on.

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Speaker 5: I'm y'all wan my.

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Speaker 1: Lifestyle while send me the beat. I wrote the ship on the set of that movie, in the trailer. Every time we took a break, I went back up in there another ball of two balls.

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Speaker 3: You're like a method rapper, like you were being gangster and you were writing gangster rap. Yeah, but the movie was so gangst there was. I mean, Frank wrote about his own life. He wrote about his own family and people that he knew in the South Bronx.

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Speaker 2: It was legit. I mean, that's what he was writing about. That's why Empire rock so hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it did, man, and even me. You know, whenever it shows up at two in the morning. Some day I started watching that shit. It comes on TV at two in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I gotta tell you that movie was really special because it cost two million dollars to make back in the day, and when it came out in December during Christmas time, it was number eight on the billboard. It was number eight against movies that were fifty sixty one hundred million, and we were number eight and stayed up there for about a month on the top.

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Speaker 2: That's how hot the movie was.

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Speaker 4: It was also ahead of his time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah about somebody want to get out the game and invest in Wall Street.

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Speaker 5: But it was a.

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Speaker 4: Scam he had Bernie made off before burn.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and also in the Latin director Latin writer, you know, the whole Latin cast that was way ahead of.

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Speaker 2: Its time too, and we were making bank.

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Speaker 3: And they should have been an empire too, Frank raised the director should have had a ton of movies. If he was a white director and a white writer, he would have been offered everything. And instead, you know, you just got to keep with retelling, please look at the script, please look at this, please, And you always got to keep begging, and it gets tiring. I think that I like to wind and complain. So what if I can't complain here?

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Speaker 2: What the fuck? Now?

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Speaker 4: I'm being honest with you, That's that's really my problem with Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: Like I call it hollywooden't because it has been hollywooden for us forever. I mean, I have great success in it, but at the same time, it's still not what it should be, you know. I mean it's still we're still like, we're twenty percent of the population. We over index at the box office at thirty percent. We're third of sports fans. Where is our thirty percent of the of the movies, of the of the casting, of the executives.

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Speaker 2: Where is that? I want that? I want twenty percent, because that's our parody. I'm gonna tell you the story. I don't want to kill.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no. But there was once a guy, right, and I know he's gonna know. I'm pretty sure he botch. Now he was a good guy, I can't say. But they made him the president of one of the biggest studios.

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Speaker 5: Which one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, listen big time, Okay, this guy, give us, give us initials.

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Speaker 2: This guy was running the show. But and I knew him, and we have friends in common.

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Speaker 1: Every time I go to LA we would have dinner together and I would sit down and be like, Yo, what movie you putting out?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Nothing andmember that.

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Speaker 6: Yo.

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Speaker 1: But you know you you're you're in the hot seat, bro. You could you put out a bunch of Latino movies, black movies. This you're the he was the man. He's answered to no one. This guy was hiding under his desk. So long till they figure out, hey, this guy Johnny ain't doing nothing trying to get rid of them. It's like these people work to get in these positions. Then they get gunshots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're scared to pull the trigger on the movie because if it doesn't succeed right then they're fired.

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Speaker 2: Well you hit it, you.

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Speaker 3: Hit that, you hit it right there, because that's what the industry is. It's based on fear. Everybody's afraid of losing their jobs. So everybody's afraid of making a mistake and pulling the trigger in green lightning shit. I mean David Soslov, the guy who's doing that big deal, the big merger right now with Warner Brothers, HBO and the and the L seventy billion, that right that one, Well, his whole thing was zero production. That's how he grows the the value of the company. But you can't have a production company that doesn't produce of course you now they do. Well, he did, but it's a fake, a fake premise, bro, It's a Ponzi scheme.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're they're they're they're they're they're.

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Speaker 3: Shipping on that deal right now because Yeah, anyway, what we're talking about, let's talk about my show coming out.

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Speaker 1: Before one show in regular light, before before we get into the new show.

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Speaker 6: I got, I got some colleage. Let's get into I got some Corlito questions. I was that Carlito is one of the movies that feel like every character was real light.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, every it feels like it wasn't a character.

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Speaker 2: Jada, You were right.

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Speaker 3: I mean because the writer was a New York Puerto Rican judge who wrote about his life growing up in Spanish Harlem, so he knew what he was talking from, you know. And uh, you know, they cast thewas Guzman and myself to bring a little authenticity because you know, the lead was supposed to be a Puerto Rican but it was played by a white guy playing Puerto Rican, which is you know.

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Speaker 2: It was what they used to do back in the day. They won't let us be our heroes.

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Speaker 3: And the legend he played the legendary role Yes, that the white guy he didn't do.

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Speaker 2: Why you got to name him man.

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Speaker 3: Because he's the legend of name that executive. But he'll name Pacino in the movie. He's a bad motherfucker. Al Pacino is amazing, amazing, He's amazing. There's a lot of white actors that I respect. I'm not disrespecting him. I still love my white actors. Latino could have played that role. Hell yeah, why not?

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Speaker 6: Yo?

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Speaker 4: We hadn't.

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Speaker 3: We had Andy Garcia, we had Benjamin Brad, we had Benicia told. We had tons of people who could have played it, but they wouldn't give us those lead roles. I mean, I mean Patino played Latino twice and how many other brown face?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that would have made.

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Speaker 1: A starface, yes, and fucking calledos.

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Speaker 3: But imagine you put a Latin actor in that role, man, they would have been superstars.

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Speaker 1: The Latin actor was Benny Blanco from the Blank? Or was thisso the big that didn't fly?

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Speaker 5: Straight?

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Speaker 1: Fucking movie? Let me tell you something. I didn't like the movie the first time I saw it. We are to the movie that I'm telling you.

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Speaker 4: That's a left.

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Speaker 2: Turn on the highway.

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Speaker 5: I'm driving on the highway.

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Speaker 3: Flag a flag on the plate. Two flags. That's three flags. Hell, why what the fuck you mean you didn't like it? Let me tell you why. I don't know if I want to know why. No, no, no, it isn't even your fault. Nobody's fault.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming off for Scarface we lived. I mean, we're keeping the real star face.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: But director same director, Brian de Palmer, one of the great.

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Speaker 1: Scarface kind of like destroyed my whole crew's life. Growing up, we sold drugs because the Scarface we would out. I remember getting locked up and my best friend was called ton Montana Rest in Peace.

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Speaker 4: He got killed.

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Speaker 1: I remember going to the priests and getting locked up with him and him in you human life, putting his foot on the captain's table like I ain't thrown in Mandana and you have a job in the nigga.

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Speaker 2: Like look the fuck up, get the fuck in the cell.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, we were brainwashed. So when colletos Way came out, we thought it was like Carface Part two and when he walks around Spanish Harlem and everybody's like yo, and we like, oh shit, you see chich in that spot and that the gig Rest in peace, Get the yeah, yo, yeah, you and ju salads. All right, he comes up, So I'm thinking it's carface too.

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Speaker 4: It's on the whole movie.

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Speaker 1: Theater thought that, by the way, and then it turned into a love story with ballet, with this, with that, but years nada understanding life and the hye right right have movies one of the greatest movies ever made in the history of mankind. I got to understand the love story. He's trying to break away.

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Speaker 2: Right right, trying to get out the business, and the business won't let him go.

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Speaker 1: So at first I'm thinking this call face part to it. Then I'm like, yo, this is a fucking love story with a white girl that lay like what the fuck?

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Speaker 5: You?

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Speaker 1: Was the only person we could relate to in that Scarfaces because you walking up in there? You Benny Blancos. What was that like playing Benny? Was it anybody you thought of like this guy? I knew this guy, grew up with him. What was it?

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Speaker 5: It was? It was? It was a cat that I was hanging out with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a drug dealer, and uh and uh I shouldn't have been hanging out with him because I didn't realize I was kind of stupid and thought I was invincible somehow, but hanging out with him was really dangerous because his brother had had gotten shot just walking around the neighborhood like that.

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Speaker 2: Because they were both drug dealers. Everybody knew who they were, so it was.

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Speaker 3: Stupid of me to go with him to the where he stores, that where the stash houses and all that.

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Speaker 2: And I was doing all that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I betsed it on somebody directly, because that's why I had that kind of fire and juice.

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Speaker 2: But also Brian did Palmu taught me so much, man. He gave me.

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Speaker 3: He gave me so much law in that movie, so I got to return it. We had just done Carldo Casualties of War with Sean Penn and Michael J. Fox and Bing Raim's Vietnam movie, and then he cast me as as Benny Blanco in The Bronx, and Yo, back then that was real film, thirty five millimeter.

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Speaker 2: You you you got four or five takes.

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Speaker 3: He gave me thirty takes on my entrance because he enjoyed the crazy shit that I was doing. But that taught me how to act, man, because everything I did, I came and I knocked down the waiters uh, Trey you kid, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I did. That was a real walk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, like you had the chest out there like looking at the sit like you you had that sit to a science.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 2: It was so much fun man and Pacino. I was improvising everything.

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Speaker 5: Uh uh.

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Speaker 3: The palm allowed me to put all my friends at my booth, in the in the club, in the discotheque. I had my ex wife. We won't talk about her. And then all the other people were like Nelson Bass. She took, she took a lot at the.

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Speaker 2: Time, it was it was almost fifty percent of what I had.

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Speaker 3: Jesus, yeah, Jesus say in La.

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Speaker 5: She's not gonna hear yo.

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Speaker 2: Jesus is lord man, why you had no.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: That who's who's had a good divorce. Nobody's had nobody.

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Speaker 1: But I just quiet, don't look around because with no disrespect, because I got a lot of friends they divorced wives.

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Speaker 4: But that's like that you considered that.

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Speaker 1: A job now, like, well, you're gonna lose fives of sex athletes and all that like that. Like but they and then they'll become what business woman once you give them that twenty thirty million, their new ship under.

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Speaker 4: Their Instagram and everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, this is the business lady from this and this and that and the only business state there was taking nigga's money. This shit is out of control, buddy. I'm hitting him like the businesswoman of the year I got.

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Speaker 3: I saw a flag him there before we all get canceled and ship.

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Speaker 4: I got a lot of sisters. Fucking wives do you have, Joe? I don't have X wives. The problem is you just anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge hustle these days, huge hustles.

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Speaker 4: But yes, so that that movie changed my life.

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Speaker 3: Calledly those But what you know, what's interesting to me, Joe, is that Scarface because there's such few Latin representations and we had no positive representation in that era. It was all like drug dealers because everything in Miami vice, every Latin character was was a criminal.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then you if they had had more positive Latin images, would you have gone into a more positive path or or because Scarface was even a white guy playing a Latin guy playing I had it for.

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Speaker 1: The wrong path no matter what. I had a father he worked his ass off at him. Mother she worked that ass off. I had love in the crib and I was just looking for the wrong shit, no matter what. So you know what happened. No, it is the truth. I had a father that loved me. He worked his ass off. Like there was days my father would come home and dressed like you and fucking just throw himself on the bed and we saw him the next morning. They had that motherfucker working, and my mom same shit. And I still the minute I could run to the streets, I ran to the streets. That was very ambitious, you know, almost like Benny Blanco. I was very ambitious.

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Speaker 2: I'm still very ambitious. That hasn't got a way, No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: It's something I'm blessed with because there's so many people that choose to live a mediocre life.

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Speaker 2: They choose to all right, we did it already.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm at the point I ain't even gonna lie to you. If I put my lifestyle down.

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Speaker 5: Got to put it down.

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Speaker 2: You gotta move somewhere where it's cheap or something like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't got to work no more.

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Speaker 5: I could just watch TV and.

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Speaker 3: Ship you downside so you could, uh yeah, well that's smart.

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Speaker 1: That's a smart move, yes, but not for me. Oh see, I'm Benny blanco. I'm still walking.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, Hey.

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Speaker 4: You got all that lady. That can't be jail.

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Speaker 1: I got to come up in this restaurant. I gotta be in all the hot spots. But I am saying, if I ever wanted to get myself a nice, affordable, middle income nice house and watch Jeopardy at seven thirty, I could do it.

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Speaker 5: You could do.

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Speaker 2: But that's not you. That's not you. You got too much going on.

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Speaker 1: No, I gotta care to be in this ship, like you know. That's that's the story of my life. How much as how much does this get pay?

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Speaker 3: You paid really good? But how much is really good? I need numbers? I can't be This guy won't give me. He won't give me initials, he won't give me my I get out of this. Listen my ex x x x x x x his wife. I'll be coming for some fucking money if she this motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: Huh or that's what I see? Y? Are you crazy?

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Speaker 1: You don't want from the block coming from fucking lifetime warranty?

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Speaker 4: That bits? Are you crazy? I can't tell them numbers.

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Speaker 1: That's a new thing I don't do though, Well that was that well know, we come from nothing right right, So everything since the beginning of time of rap music has always been bragging, bravado, coasted. You know, fucking Melly Mao still living in the process. He was like shimmapel Melly mail. They was talking about that ship from But in any case, back in the days, when any rapper would get a big check or some new success, they would announce it right, first guy from Brooklyn to May eight million, Yeah, yeah, yeah, put that shit up on the raptors. And then motherfucker's it be running in the street the hood like, yo, oh boy made eight Now you'd.

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Speaker 2: Be lucky to see me say I made two dollars.

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Speaker 5: You can figure it out, do the math.

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Speaker 3: Look at me like I just go look at celebrity worth and I go boom. Not true though, how is it not true? Too little tom?

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Speaker 1: I gotta watch the course more than what they say. My networth is that ship been lined a long time ago. Trust me what I tell you, it's way off. It's way off beyond oh good, good to know good. But my thing is I look it up before.

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Speaker 3: I I don't brag about because I was gonna He's worth a lot more than that.

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Speaker 2: Come on, now, yo, bro, I got, I got, but he said, Yo, bro.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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00:24:52
Speaker 2: Anyway, can we talk about my sterious.

00:24:55
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you?

00:24:58
Speaker 3: Hey, No, no, that's utopia, dear killing nannies. It's so dope, man, It's the first authorized Pablo Escobar story. And you know, white actors in America all have to play Hamlet, Hamlet all that, and actors have to play Pablobars bensa Toro did it? Have you Bardem did it? Wagno Mara did and now I'm doing it. But I think I got the best accident best. Yes, sir bro you check it out. You don't, I'm gonna watch. I just was watching yesterday. Look at some YouTube, Pablo bar video, and then look at what I'm doing. See how there's no difference for everything I can tell you about Popeye his hit me. Yes, yes, yes, I said pop Pie. I thought you and Columbo, Yeah yeah, yeah. You got to meet the real Popeye because he's out there. Get to meet the real Popeye. But I said his videos and I met his son, Pablo's Escobar son who changed his name.

00:26:05
Speaker 4: Nice guy. Just see anything on his wife yesterday too.

00:26:08
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:26:08
Speaker 3: The dude escaped the sins of his father, escaped the lifestyle. He became a psychologist, travels around the world giving speeches about positivity. Like he really ran away from that. He could have chosen to kept to keep going in the Father's wars because the reason that Pablo is still magnetic. Is because he's the wealthiest gangster that ever lived in the history of the world. He died it with thirty billion dollars back then today's dates would be seventy billion dollars.

00:26:38
Speaker 4: I mean, let's do with those three new hollarys. Come on two times.

00:26:42
Speaker 1: This guy's called Tutama Felon. Don't tell me why he wears those shoes. I don't know what kind of shoes is though. Penny loaf for sneakers, hot steppers. He got the leakers. He wants to go double viral and I fell for it. Man went viral with them fucking astronaut shoes he got on and the penny loafers he got sneaker penny loafers. You got a penny in the penny that's a local questions. He got to sitting in the lower cartels you ship.

00:27:13
Speaker 6: Ship.

00:27:13
Speaker 4: He got the sitting lowers.

00:27:22
Speaker 3: That laugh is the best? Oh shoot does are sneaking penny loafer?

00:27:26
Speaker 1: Oh my god, advice, I never I've never seen no sh Those are the cadados. Yo are toasted A new.

00:27:39
Speaker 5: Series eight hundred Toaster.

00:27:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, Killing Nanny's streaming now Hulu, Disney Plus.

00:27:47
Speaker 5: Let's hear about it. Yes, make sure we all enjoy it.

00:27:52
Speaker 6: I start watching the trailer, right yeah, yeah, and I understand Spanish much better than speaking, but just start getting real.

00:28:00
Speaker 5: It started agatting. I needed to call somebody. It got over.

00:28:03
Speaker 4: You got to read it subtile sometime.

00:28:07
Speaker 5: Leave no sub try to get in, you know, you try to do it without.

00:28:10
Speaker 2: Subtitles, like try to go like do a lingo with it.

00:28:14
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you need subtitles, especially Colombia's they talked.

00:28:17
Speaker 2: That they talk fast.

00:28:18
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:28:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, I try to talk to my fucking mother in law. Tell you she told you what you're eating for breakfast.

00:28:28
Speaker 4: She told you the whole menu, bro, and one.

00:28:31
Speaker 5: That's the goal.

00:28:33
Speaker 4: That ship out of here. You're like, huh what what by yu?

00:28:37
Speaker 5: What like?

00:28:38
Speaker 4: Now, ain't motherfucker's talk fast?

00:28:41
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:28:41
Speaker 2: Talk about You need.

00:28:42
Speaker 1: The subtitles, you know, I want to see that series because to me thus far, Yeah, the best Pablo was the cheapest version, which was that like a Pablo novella.

00:28:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, that guy was good. That guy was better than me.

00:28:57
Speaker 5: Don't tell you that. I admit that.

00:28:58
Speaker 3: I'm admit that that guy was really that was incredible man because he looked like him. He spoke like, yeah, the novella got yeah, that guy was killing I'm better than all the other North American actors out.

00:29:11
Speaker 2: There I have. I am gonna text take that motherfucker out to say it for you.

00:29:17
Speaker 1: I'm watching the ship with twenty black guys. Every time that shit came on, were in the studio in Miami. We all watch him reading the sub to. We didn't miss one, dude.

00:29:26
Speaker 3: That series is incredible. That's eighty episodes. But you didn't watch watching I sit every day.

00:29:34
Speaker 2: It's not eighty episodes. You're too busy making money. How's that celebrity worth?

00:29:39
Speaker 1: Gonna get bigger if you if you are a TV recording this pre podcasts, we was in the studio twenty deep every fucking night watching that problem, I believe when it first came out.

00:29:53
Speaker 3: But watch this series, man, because the sun gave all the intel. I'm always happening behind closed doors. And even though Pablo was this sociopath, gangster assassin, he showed love to his kids like hogged and kissed and then coming back in the eighties, pops were tough love. They weren't hugging and kissing like my dad when I was growing up. He was like, every day you get stupider by the moment. Congratulations, how do you become even stupider than yesterday. That was love back then, but not Pablo, because Pablo was on death store all the time. So he hogged his son, kissed him, said I love you publicly and everything can't killed his family to what he got, cause you always get vulnerable. They tell gangsters you have children, that's your new Achilles heel. That's how they're gonna get you. And that's how they got them.

00:30:44
Speaker 5: Man, what a fucking story. Man.

00:30:46
Speaker 4: I was just it's crazy.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: I'm so oh, I don't know if it's a pause, but infatuated with Pablo and his lifestyle. I was just yesterday I'm watching the story of his wife and how he met her.

00:30:58
Speaker 4: He met her really really young.

00:31:00
Speaker 2: Well they were both young, but he was really man young.

00:31:03
Speaker 3: He was like she was it was he, Yeah, it was it was canceible young.

00:31:09
Speaker 5: Oh was he? He was twenty one, twenty one?

00:31:13
Speaker 3: But still I mean that it's still way too young. No, that's not right, that's not at all.

00:31:18
Speaker 4: But back in the days, was that it wasn't it wasn't it.

00:31:21
Speaker 3: Wasn't the eighteen hundreds. It was nineteen eighty. Come on, it was still not cool. It was not appropriate.

00:31:26
Speaker 5: Crazy, it wasn't cool.

00:31:27
Speaker 3: No, but he had he had mad power, and he thought he could do whatever the fuck he wanted.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: So he thought that, Yeah, but that's wrong. Yeah, that was wrong. Now Pablo did a lot of foul shit. Of course, if.

00:31:38
Speaker 5: You believe all life is alive.

00:31:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, ye're still a love.

00:31:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He's got two kids and his son is doing great.

00:31:45
Speaker 5: Man.

00:31:46
Speaker 3: He he authorized this show, He consulted on it.

00:31:49
Speaker 2: He talked to the writers. This dialogue in here that I go, there's no.

00:31:53
Speaker 3: Way, this is incredible. This is not dialogue. These are spoken words that had a life. These words were actually said. And when he confronts his father, because the kid couldn't go to school because the DA would catch him or he'd be assassinating. The kids were scared of him, so he had to be homeschooled, and so Pablo got him these assassin nanny teachers that were his nannies, teachers, friends and family. But you know, you can't control them. Yeah, but you can't control them either because they're not families. So some of them became informants, Paul had to kill them. The kid doesn't know what to do now. He's like, these people were my family, my friends, and you kill them. And he says, Tom, what are you? If mom crosses, you're going to kill her. If Grandma looks at you the wrong way, you're going to kill her. These are actual words that the son takes me that.

00:32:40
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what's crazy about being against especially in America, Well it's everywhere, but especially in America, is.

00:32:52
Speaker 5: Golf forbid?

00:32:52
Speaker 1: You born with the name Gotti, like John gott It, you could be the seventeenth grandson. You're a ready a criminal. You're in school and they looking at you like you're a mafia boys. They on your ass. They don't want to hear nothing. They lock up anybody. You knows what I noticed about life say, it's still feeding Pablo Escob, his son is giving the rights to the movie. So they're still eating off the Mathers last name.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: But he's not taking the thirty billion that he could have had.

00:33:24
Speaker 5: I know.

00:33:25
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying that we know of. But listen right, what we're saying is this right. I'm not even glorifying that like that. What I'm saying is when you look at the Roman Empires and the movies and all that, everybody always kept caring about their name. They were like, I'll break down every statue with your face on it. Your name will never be told in the streets. This this, this that, and it's all about your name. So these kids, if you born Jonathan Gotti from fucking pre k, they looking at you like, he's going to federal prison. He's a Gotti, he's gonna go. And Pablo's sons, probably one of the only whose kids lies in this ship. Escaped the enemy, not the murder him. Yeah, because you killed so many people. Absolutely, he had to change his.

00:34:20
Speaker 5: People didn't want to kill.

00:34:23
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Absolutely he was in it.

00:34:25
Speaker 4: Oh no, he's in it.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: Well, he was a kid, he's not that.

00:34:27
Speaker 3: His dad was shot at when he was nineteen years old, so he didn't really get into the game, right, and his dad was protecting him from that. But when his dad got shot, he was only nineteen and he left and he changed his name. The mom took him away from the country, they moved out, went incognito, and then he resurfaced. You know, after they had taken down the enemies that the government had taken them all and down there. Then then they resurfaced.

00:34:55
Speaker 1: Yeah something. But you want to know what's crazy. If you think about Griselda, she went back the Columbia. They murdered her on the motorcycle. Guy came and murdered her the first day she touched down. Wow, Columbia. She was like pablos. You know, she was killing everything too. They killed tough.

00:35:13
Speaker 5: He ain't let her live. And the minute.

00:35:14
Speaker 3: Those people was at the other night, just Colombia, she killed so many people. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm trying to touch.

00:35:21
Speaker 2: You know, the people are gonna come after you yet, Yeah.

00:35:23
Speaker 4: Somebody, you know.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, when you see these movies and they see the little kid, what we're gonna do with the little kid, they usually killed the little kid because coming back, you know, we killed this whole family.

00:35:36
Speaker 2: He's gonna be he's gonna one engine some time.

00:35:39
Speaker 4: So this guy is very lucky that he's able to even It's amazing.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: How you know the psychology of it all.

00:35:47
Speaker 3: I mean, he's like a Wikipedia on gangsterism, gangsterism, ismism.

00:35:54
Speaker 5: The kid's gonna come back kill.

00:35:58
Speaker 3: But not this kid because this kid, yeah, his mother to his mother's like an advisor or something like.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: But it's true. I mean, what happened to his thirty billion dollars or seventy billion?

00:36:09
Speaker 6: Now?

00:36:10
Speaker 2: Now it's there, it's there somewhere.

00:36:13
Speaker 5: Do they keep finding this money and ship?

00:36:15
Speaker 3: Like?

00:36:15
Speaker 2: No, nobody's nobody's found anything. There's a whole bunch of stories out about decayed, rotted. There's a farmer's story circulating about a farm.

00:36:25
Speaker 5: There was one.

00:36:26
Speaker 4: There was one father that found a bunch of.

00:36:27
Speaker 5: Money and they turned in He turned it in.

00:36:30
Speaker 2: Marked and marked bills too. Aren't they mark bills?

00:36:32
Speaker 5: Somebody?

00:36:33
Speaker 4: No, it's old school money. But you gotta formerly find seven hundred million eat. He's like, yo, get that ship.

00:36:41
Speaker 5: Out of here.

00:36:43
Speaker 3: You found like eighty million in uh in one of an apartment of medianas.

00:36:47
Speaker 4: And it never gave it up?

00:36:49
Speaker 2: Yeah I found, Yeah, I found, you gave it back.

00:36:53
Speaker 5: We'll get it back.

00:36:54
Speaker 1: Fuck out of here. Let me explain saying to you this is the problem I have. Is the problem you will standards? Maybe I hope that the world villainizes people. Right Martin Luther King was murdered right now, there's a Montin Luther King Highway.

00:37:10
Speaker 2: Everywhere there's a montin Luther King High.

00:37:12
Speaker 1: School, Joe Louis. They drove him crazy for taxes. The man was looking out the window of the box of Joe Louis thinking the government was coming to kill him because he owned Texas. Now you got Joe Louis Highways, you got Joe Lewis School.

00:37:26
Speaker 4: But these were heroes.

00:37:27
Speaker 3: I mean, there were heroes to us right well to the good thing.

00:37:32
Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to tell you is, my daughter went to Columbia and she went to the museum of Pablo Weskeball with the plane.

00:37:37
Speaker 4: On top the high seat.

00:37:39
Speaker 1: They still making money off this man that they murdered and they called them a criminal and they assassinated and he was the biggest shit in the world.

00:37:47
Speaker 4: To this day, Columbia is making money off of fucking Pablo.

00:37:50
Speaker 3: Right, But they have a they have a they have a hate relationship with Pablo. They do not love him in Columbia because.

00:37:57
Speaker 4: Who's making the money.

00:37:59
Speaker 2: I don't know who's they take you on making the money off of this show.

00:38:02
Speaker 1: But that's not like, that's not not thirty million him. I'm saying, if we went tourists to Colombia and we want to.

00:38:11
Speaker 3: See, they don't detegrate my country. We want to my wife's Columbia. Oh we've got good taste, Yeah, thank you, but a little a little Columbia riqua, Yeah, Colombo riqua.

00:38:23
Speaker 4: We got that.

00:38:24
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying to you is, if we wanted to go to a tour of Pablo wesketball, yeah, day and he did it.

00:38:30
Speaker 5: There's people doing it right now.

00:38:32
Speaker 3: Well, I went to all the locations where he lived, all all his his uh, the big zoo that he had. I did all that when we were shooting, because we shot it in Colombia and mel Jeens near all the places that he actually did live.

00:38:44
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, he did. You know.

00:38:45
Speaker 2: You know he had a big zoo and he had hippos.

00:38:49
Speaker 4: And they let the thousand.

00:38:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they let the hippos out into like our Mississippi type river Magdalena. It's invested with hippos. You know, hippos are the most dangerous and almost on the planet.

00:39:01
Speaker 5: They let him go in the water.

00:39:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they multiplied into the hundreds. Now, so they know they have to go out and clearically, you know, do it with with Peter you know approval, euthanize them.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, y did I did I sidetrack too much? No, no, no, I have ADHD. I'm sorry.

00:39:23
Speaker 5: My fidy goes everywhere.

00:39:25
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, now this show? You know you give us all you got.

00:39:30
Speaker 5: Brother.

00:39:31
Speaker 2: I'm trying to try, baby.

00:39:32
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: Here, you know I'm here for trying to make this ship happen.

00:39:36
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

00:39:38
Speaker 3: So I'm definitely watching this series, dude. It's an all Spanish language show. I did the dubbing two for those people who don't like to read Jada Kiss you can you could you do the dual lingo thing and just watch it and not understand it. But I love that about it.

00:39:56
Speaker 1: I love that about him. This actor, this is a famous actor. Every time they do something in Colombia. It's a little guy with red hair. He's always into all the Pablo movies. What fucking movie I watched last night? I watched this ship called Agent Zenna and he was one of the fucking spies in the movie too.

00:40:14
Speaker 4: It's based out of Columbia.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: You know, the redhead Colombian actor he played in that novella. He was he was put in that Gustavo in the novella. But he makes all the Spanish speaking movies.

00:40:30
Speaker 6: He's he's.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: He must have been in my movie.

00:40:34
Speaker 4: He has to be in my series.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: Made a legit steal of approval. I don't know that, cat no h.

00:40:42
Speaker 3: But dude, I mean, this series is so cool because it's all from the pov of the kid. So it's it's because obviously the son gave us all the info the intel on it, and it's all from his point of view of growing up with these killer nannies that protected him and raised him, and and he lived this wild life that he was able to escape anyhow, Which is the biggest beautiful part of the show is that you see him hit nineteen. He starts off as a little guy and his dad is loving and caring, but the dad has to like move them out at one place in the next because they're onto him. He has to sometimes not be with them so that he's a decoy so it don't blow up his family, you know.

00:41:23
Speaker 2: So you're constantly living in paranoia.

00:41:26
Speaker 3: So it can't be a good lifestyle, bro, even if you have thirty billion dollars to live like that.

00:41:38
Speaker 2: Well, he did it longer than most gangster is out here.

00:41:41
Speaker 7: Now.

00:41:41
Speaker 1: All the gangsters I have and I love run face bro, all these gangsters. Now you party for a year, right, you fuck every stripper you ever wanted to. You buy him watches, all types of shit. You drive around fly for one year, then you get a good old forty years for it the Feds. You have a one year run, right, and you the guy you talk on one on four. You run a ship, you in starlets. I'm just trying to.

00:42:11
Speaker 4: Tell you you just pay rise.

00:42:13
Speaker 5: It's good, all good.

00:42:14
Speaker 4: You know, come through. You got one year run. You wore the fly jacket for a year.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, you got to meet Jada, kiss the fat joe y'o.

00:42:23
Speaker 4: What's up next?

00:42:24
Speaker 5: Thing?

00:42:24
Speaker 1: You know you in there telling that story for forty years. How you was running ship in two thousand four time.

00:42:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, it ain't no problem.

00:42:33
Speaker 1: No West caball where you get the fucking be on the run for fifteen years, This and this.

00:42:38
Speaker 4: And that, A B's in the building.

00:42:41
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're saying that, man, because that needs to be said.

00:42:44
Speaker 3: That not to romanticize or idolize this type of lifestyle, because it's a it's a short term you know, it's a short term deal.

00:42:51
Speaker 2: It's a short term goal.

00:42:52
Speaker 1: It's not right about now with all these cameras and all they forget it, they could Jesse Smalley.

00:42:58
Speaker 4: Yet you know they're about to fake them up.

00:43:00
Speaker 1: And they put the cameras all the way back till the motherfucker got out the car with the motherfuckers.

00:43:06
Speaker 4: He was rehearsing.

00:43:07
Speaker 1: They caught him off film in the studio, rehearsing when you.

00:43:11
Speaker 5: Punched me to the left.

00:43:12
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look that way at.

00:43:16
Speaker 5: This motherfucker. Y this yo. They's sick out here.

00:43:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, dude, Now they're gonna have They're gonna have drones that can follow you. No more police card chases. A drone is gonna follow you till you stop. That's the new thing coming. He yes that he's kicking drone. It comes after you till you till they get you.

00:43:35
Speaker 4: No gangsterism is done.

00:43:39
Speaker 2: You're you got the police.

00:43:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, this ship out of control right now than some of these motherfuckers is crazy.

00:43:47
Speaker 5: They're gonna have drones that follow you to you.

00:43:50
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, on the already make any plans. I swear to god. They're using them in Jersey, chasing dudes with the drone. The dudes hiding in the thing and they be like come out, no, no, no, they.

00:44:06
Speaker 3: Got those do it Pallunteer and Oracle in our government. That's they're gonna follow you. They're gonna use your your ring in your house, They're gonna use your nest in your house, your your your whatever, stupid vacuum to the zoom ball room.

00:44:20
Speaker 2: But thing, they're gonna use.

00:44:21
Speaker 3: All that to look at you, find you gps U and and you're gonna be controlled.

00:44:26
Speaker 2: They're gonna lock you in your house. It's crazy, it's coming.

00:44:29
Speaker 3: Pallenteer will get all your info, info and data and combines it all to find out where you are, what you're doing, and predict your behavior.

00:44:37
Speaker 2: Like the movies we used to see, Yes, but now it's a reality. Let me ask you a question, right, do you can ask anything?

00:44:44
Speaker 1: Movies prepare us for like where we're going in life, like sci fi does.

00:44:50
Speaker 3: I think sci fi definitely does prepare us for a future because it's all imagination and and and these writers have to.

00:44:56
Speaker 1: I don't think it's imagination. I think some of this ship is like they're letting us know, Hey, somebody research now, Yes, you know George justin that FaceTime beats George.

00:45:08
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:45:09
Speaker 4: Jane and his wife. Now we got faced.

00:45:12
Speaker 2: Yeah for real, you thought that was.

00:45:13
Speaker 5: Never coming out.

00:45:14
Speaker 1: Now you take a ship, you press the wall and it push.

00:45:18
Speaker 4: That was George just huh.

00:45:21
Speaker 1: At that time we was up on the fleetstones with the bullshit called.

00:45:24
Speaker 4: But George Justin was letting.

00:45:26
Speaker 3: Me no food on a tray, remember the foods just come out on a conveyor belt.

00:45:31
Speaker 2: And the Jetsons we got that a lot of times.

00:45:33
Speaker 1: When movies win awards like the Oscars and all that, I'm like the guy who goes watches it the next day.

00:45:40
Speaker 4: I had never saw Bogonia is crazy?

00:45:44
Speaker 5: That ship was?

00:45:45
Speaker 2: That was crazy?

00:45:45
Speaker 5: Man?

00:45:46
Speaker 3: Yo, How incredible was this movie? But I don't know how I felt about that movie.

00:45:49
Speaker 5: Bro.

00:45:50
Speaker 3: I had a bit of a hard time with it because of the female violence. I was like, what's your point?

00:45:55
Speaker 5: Bro?

00:45:56
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm never gonna work for him now, thanks loud yaga.

00:46:00
Speaker 3: I was talking out. I was talking smack about Yardgoes. What the fuck is wrong with me?

00:46:04
Speaker 4: This what she blew up?

00:46:05
Speaker 2: But it's in this drink, bro, Yo, that's the truth.

00:46:09
Speaker 4: Some ship best ever.

00:46:11
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something that's I can't believe I said that, Yo, that's she was a bugged up movie, though, said what it was bugged the fuck? Oh hell yeah, good movie, Butgonia, it's interesting. You gotta watch that ship them boys, watch it them boys.

00:46:26
Speaker 4: Was crazy.

00:46:26
Speaker 2: The motherfuckers. Man.

00:46:28
Speaker 1: I had to double watch that movie. I said, yo, e motherfucker crazy. The whole time I'm looking, I'm.

00:46:33
Speaker 3: Like, give him the ending, spoiled the ending for everybody.

00:46:38
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about about he gonna do it. One thing that happened with that movie that was crazy. Don't get in my zone. They had the dumb cousin.

00:46:49
Speaker 3: Don't do don't no, no, don't no because the kid because he's not he's not acting that.

00:46:56
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, he's a he's just Oh no.

00:46:59
Speaker 1: God blake, I got special needs. Oh yeah, he's special. Last thing I'm doing is playing with anybody. I know he's real special needs.

00:47:04
Speaker 2: That was an act.

00:47:05
Speaker 5: I didn't know that.

00:47:06
Speaker 1: No, no, That's why I wanted to learn you no, no, no, no, no, God forbid that. He did a phenomenal job.

00:47:12
Speaker 2: He's incredible. Yeah, yeah, no, I know, I want I'm saying this.

00:47:15
Speaker 5: I didn't know.

00:47:16
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying to you is it's like we got an inside joke, right, what's that?

00:47:23
Speaker 5: You know?

00:47:24
Speaker 4: You know Terror Squad's my crew.

00:47:26
Speaker 2: Hell ya rap label whatever from way back when.

00:47:29
Speaker 3: And now we say you're the leader, you're the way I'm not the leader, right, so you know now they try to lock record labels up like if they're gangs like the mafia.

00:47:41
Speaker 1: So everybody we hand on the we'll be like, yo, search just what you're the leader now.

00:47:47
Speaker 5: I don't want it.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: Nobody to be Like even the dumbest guy in Tervis Squad calls me back, not search in two seconds.

00:47:53
Speaker 5: I am not the leader.

00:47:54
Speaker 4: I am not the leader.

00:47:56
Speaker 5: You are the leader.

00:47:57
Speaker 4: You are the leader. Nobody wants to be the leader.

00:48:00
Speaker 2: No more, no, no, no, no, that's not the leader.

00:48:03
Speaker 1: And if you ever noticed in the movies, they always take somebody with a little low IQ and they put him there and they use him.

00:48:12
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:48:13
Speaker 4: Like we used to call that throwing.

00:48:15
Speaker 5: The battery in the back.

00:48:17
Speaker 1: When you had a guy that you knew he wasn't that smarter, you could gass him to do anything.

00:48:22
Speaker 4: You be like, yo, that guy don't like him.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: Maybe he should get shot in his head.

00:48:26
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's.

00:48:28
Speaker 4: Just that much, huh, Johnny two times, be like really, the leader said he don't like that.

00:48:35
Speaker 5: Yan, Yeah, the guy don't like that.

00:48:38
Speaker 4: Now, let's see what happens.

00:48:40
Speaker 2: Like this guy I.

00:48:42
Speaker 5: Had, one guy came home. I had one guy.

00:48:45
Speaker 2: Okay, let me just end this over.

00:48:48
Speaker 4: I never told his story.

00:48:49
Speaker 2: We had one guy we grew up with. Let me tell you something.

00:48:54
Speaker 1: This guy was dangerous, right, like a sociopath. Well, some of these guys, we just thought they were real guys in the hoods. Some of them were serial killers.

00:49:02
Speaker 5: Right.

00:49:03
Speaker 1: But this, well, anyway, one day we four deep, we in the jeep is the eighties, and we're trying to rap to some girls. You know, fat joke got his shirt off. You know I used to go topless, my jewels on you.

00:49:17
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:49:17
Speaker 1: I never was a champ of being the fact guy. And let me tell you something. When them police come from murder, I've been there three times. When the police come from murder, they come with tanks, with fucking trucks, with lights, with this, they come with so many police cars. Technology, y'all, No, not technology. They know you killing. They're coming to get the killer. So what I'm trying to say is, anyway we get locked up, they throw it's on the floor, no reason. Nights hot day like today, everybody's on the floor. We go in the precinct. We turn around and the one guy he's looking at us and he's like, and we don't know we joking, we don't know what we're in there for. He's like, guys, remember what happened over there at that And you know, ship we heard about the guy he got shot. I won't be seeing yard for a while. He knew what they came for. We got no fucking clue. O, suck my dig fuck your mother. We we don't know what we're getting locked up? Four we we he got locked up. So he did about fifteen twenty years or something that they damn and everybody was coming back from from jail, like when you know how you go to jail to visit now, they used to come back and be like, Yo, y'all got one.

00:50:42
Speaker 2: Y'all got what.

00:50:46
Speaker 4: Mother fucker was stabbing everybody in there. They was like, y'all, god damn.

00:50:51
Speaker 2: There's a guy named such and such your.

00:50:54
Speaker 4: God one, he laying it down in there. So legend he.

00:50:58
Speaker 1: Comes home from jail, I'm already fed. Joe the rapper, I'm a Jimmy's Broce Cafe. You probably was in there.

00:51:04
Speaker 3: With your Jimmy's Cafe was the bomb man m P. And they go, Joe, No, who just came home such and such? Look at the guy he comes home.

00:51:16
Speaker 5: He's like this.

00:51:19
Speaker 2: I said, man, I heard everything about you.

00:51:21
Speaker 6: Man.

00:51:21
Speaker 2: He was like yeah. I said, man, you was putting in that work. Legendary man. He was like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

00:51:27
Speaker 1: He was like, man, my sister had just passed from sorry, Lisa used to write me this down.

00:51:31
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah yeah, I said, look money in my pocket. I pulled out like twenty thirty thousands. Yo, here go, Oh what I could never hang out with you in my life.

00:51:43
Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. Paid him to get stay away from this.

00:51:49
Speaker 1: The first motherfucker that understood as dumb as we could say. He's probably he's the first motherfucker that took the thirty grand and said, I understand, Joe, change your life.

00:52:01
Speaker 2: That's cool.

00:52:02
Speaker 1: He went and got shot the fuck up about a week later, like this guy and Magnet. No, I don't give a fuck. I just like the guy was really my friend. Oh and he honors.

00:52:16
Speaker 2: That was hard to yo.

00:52:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, honored.

00:52:18
Speaker 4: The declaration have been the better. He was in jail.

00:52:21
Speaker 1: They was coming back, like, Yo, this guy is putting it work for y'all. Guys in jail. Somebody says something about that Joe is over in there, so he comes home. I was like, yo, I can't hang out with No, you can't. You can't bring that in your life. You're gonna kill the home Madison's guard. I can't hang out.

00:52:43
Speaker 4: We gotta know.

00:52:43
Speaker 1: We got a local motive. Were waiting for one to come home. So friend of mine been to Joe what thirty what thirty seven years? I almost got locked up with him, but were waiting for a local motive to come. He's also getting the cash treatment, and we cannot That was a long time ago.

00:52:59
Speaker 5: What is it now?

00:52:59
Speaker 1: Can't be thirty k's gotta be more dumb. It might be like fifty thousand. We sent him money every fucking week for thirty seven years. But what I'm saying to you is I cannot be with this guy.

00:53:08
Speaker 5: No, you can't.

00:53:09
Speaker 4: They nowhere, I good, good, here's a guy. No, No, you can't see the guy.

00:53:15
Speaker 5: They all know.

00:53:15
Speaker 1: I said, there's a guy. He's gonna come in here, talk to you like he runs this ship. He probably might take any outfit he wants in the store. He'd do whatever the fuck he wants. Don't argue with the guy.

00:53:29
Speaker 5: Just call me up.

00:53:31
Speaker 4: I'm coming and I'm gonna come.

00:53:35
Speaker 1: Severance package, beet bet bet your parachute.

00:53:40
Speaker 4: Guess what, My god, I love you.

00:53:42
Speaker 2: I cannot hang out with you.

00:53:43
Speaker 5: No, you can't.

00:53:44
Speaker 4: This got beat up so much. He got metal plates in.

00:53:46
Speaker 5: This just from the cop. You know, I had a friend like that when I was growing up. He he he used to do.

00:53:51
Speaker 3: He used to do tapes of Kung Fu movies and sell him the Times Square, and and he had this cat living with him, and the cat took He was a drug addict, and he took his his video recording machine that he copied the Kung Fu tapes on and sold them on the street for crack.

00:54:09
Speaker 2: And my friend, I'm not gonna say his name, hit the dude with a let pipe and.

00:54:15
Speaker 5: Murdered him, Jef.

00:54:16
Speaker 2: He had to go to jail, and then he used to write me all the time and wanted to meet up after he came out.

00:54:20
Speaker 3: Like years and years years later, I go, I was like, you know, he's a murder. Yeah, I'm like, we can't, dude, I mean, we just can't hang. I'm in a different lifestyle. I'm a different person. My whole life is going to a path of cleanliness, goodness. You know, that's not the path that I want to be a part of. And you know, he turned Christian, he's a born again Christian and yeah, yeah, absolutely that's good for him.

00:54:43
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, and I don't mean to disparage him at all.

00:54:47
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, you come to Yeah, I don't want to bring that into my life.

00:54:52
Speaker 1: No, No, The problem is, right, is that all of us came from somewhere and it was so hard to get to where we.

00:55:01
Speaker 4: Are and be legitimate.

00:55:03
Speaker 3: Those kind of somebody crazy to be exactly, to put you in a position where you throw everything away from your family trying to keep it real.

00:55:12
Speaker 4: I'm done with keeping up on that level.

00:55:15
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's a smart move. It's a smart move, right, wrong, Aby, I gotta I gotta uncle. I'll tell this last story and then we're gonna cut. Okay, these motherfuckers, you're you're fucking up vibe. Let me tell you something is a classic. This is a fucking classic. We're number one for a reason. I know when we got one.

00:55:34
Speaker 1: Okay, my uncle was in jail since I was three years old. Another guy, legend, legend, legend, legend. He was stabbing motherfuckers in jail up to the wall like hey, Like the killers I know were scared of him. Like he's one of the founding members of a crew called the rat Hunters.

00:55:53
Speaker 2: Wow, I never heard of them. Whatever is that?

00:55:57
Speaker 4: The whole fucking New York State jail, the rat Hunters?

00:56:01
Speaker 2: They here was the eighties or seventies, seventies, seventies, seventies.

00:56:04
Speaker 1: So they got pictures of him all over my house and they're like, Yo, that's uncle Jack bull this.

00:56:10
Speaker 5: You know, I know him well.

00:56:11
Speaker 1: And the guys who I respect are coming home from jail, they're like, Yo, met your uncle dadd Yo, that nick he helped me down.

00:56:18
Speaker 4: I was under his umbrella. And these are the dangerous guys.

00:56:21
Speaker 1: He's one of them guys. When you go up there to speak, here was one of them guys. That dumb guys look at him, be like Jesus Christ, like that's your nephew. Like right, So he comes home from jail. My whole family called me.

00:56:34
Speaker 2: They said, y'all, old Jack Moo got home from jail.

00:56:37
Speaker 5: He wants to see you.

00:56:39
Speaker 4: I knew this day was coming, just like we got locomotive coming down soon too.

00:56:42
Speaker 2: So I go in the car.

00:56:44
Speaker 1: I pick him up at the Fat Joe the Rapper. I already shot the movie with John Lego Zama. I get in the car with him. I know everything about you, Joey Krack, false brunch. This is that you did good, nephew. Everybody he talked good about you. And there this this that you put in work, this and that you see. I need you to take me to Newark, New Jersey. They got this and this and that for me waiting. I said, you ever seen the car like when somebody dies in the car that it just last they go to the side. I never forget. I was on Streetmart that Gus takes it on He's street by the car was fucking car went like this, I said. I went in my pocket. I pulled out like twenty thousand. I said, Uncle, I can't hang out. I'm so, he said, now if you understand, understand, he takes the money, he gets out the car. He eventually became keeping. He died well, he became keeping.

00:57:44
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:57:45
Speaker 5: He came home.

00:57:46
Speaker 1: After twenty some years, I started seeing him in the clubs popping bottles. Benzon's beaming outside, big ass. He you know, he's the rat hunter. He's not telling they give him anything in the street. You understand what I'm saying. But that nigga boy that that ship took two minutes said here's how this is gonna work.

00:58:07
Speaker 4: But you carry something.

00:58:08
Speaker 3: You carry a lot of cash in your pockets. Bro, That shit makes you feel vulnerable in thirty thousand out of cash.

00:58:16
Speaker 4: My whole life. It's fucked up because now they look at you like you an alien.

00:58:20
Speaker 2: If you pull out cash and this cat nobody uses carry on cash.

00:58:24
Speaker 1: I mean the gas station, I go get a sugar free Red Bull. They're like, no cash, no cash, no cash.

00:58:29
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the fuck? They want a credit card? This ain't that. That ain't this. It's crack. He's a Hulu Disney plush.

00:58:39
Speaker 4: I'm watching Takes Night, right,