Donald Hoffman vs. Philip Goff: Conscious Agents or Panpsychism?

Donald Hoffman, a cognitive scientist, and philosopher Philip Goff explore consciousness, perception, evolution, and panpsychism, questioning what is real. Their conversation probes the limits of neuroscience, the nature of reality, and the possibility of infinite consciousness.

- 00:00 - Intro
- 02:46 - Goff’s World View
- 11:39 - Do Neurons Exist?
- 28:30 - What Is Real?
- 39:22 - Objections to Hoffman’s Views
- 58:45 - Evolution
- 1:37:19 - Reductionism
- 1:49:38 - Meaning Of Life
- 2:01:32 - Infinite Consciousness
- 2:05:40 - Multiverse
- 2:15:25 - Outro

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- Debunking Interface Theory (Geoffrey Bagwell): https://philpapers.org/rec/BAGDIT
- Quantum Bayesianism (Chris Fuchs): https://amzn.to/48nE3la
- Fitness Beats Truth (Donald Hoffman): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33231784
- Podcast w/ John Vervaeke Λ Donald Hoffman on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTpdCVsttI&t=0s
- Podcast w/ Joscha Bach Λ Donald Hoffman on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSlYfVtgww&t=0s
- Podcast w/ Bernardo Kastrup on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB21FAXCDE&t=0s
- Debate with Sean Carroll and Philip Goff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPCyri1rXU&t=0s
- Classic Paper on Fine-Tuning (Roger White, 2000): https://web.mit.edu/rog/www/papers/fine_tuning.pdf
- Debate between Philip and Don on Philip's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icY3Fuik2W4&t=0s

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.

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