Uzo Aduba

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Speaker 3: We should be supporting all women's sports, because women in sport is just as exciting as Memon's renee.

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Speaker 1: This week on the podcast, we are taking a left turn into the world of stage and screen and now sports team ownership.

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Speaker 2: Tell us who we're talking to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had the great pleasure. Well, I had the great pleasure of talking to my friend us Aduba, who of course is really mostly well known for her her amazing Emmy winning role as Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black.

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Speaker 2: Suzanne Warren aka Suzanne Warren.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me aka Susann Warren. Of course you would know that, but the bottom line is just a superb human being in every sense of the word. She talks about her time at Boston University BU and you know, just her going through having title nine, that ability to have that to go to school get her she was on an athletic scholarship, how she pivoted there and went into stage and screen. I don't want to tell you too much about sort of what we talked about, because it's so fascinating and interesting. And obviously she's gone into this new all of being a team owner with the angel City Soccer Team, female all female owned soccer team in Los Angeles. How important sports was her growing up, and of course her amazing mom Okay, who's a tennis coach who grew up in Nigeria, and her journey through her life and her love of tennis obviously was instilled to her by her mom. And yeah, it's just cool. She's just I always say to her, you're just like joy, your joy. She's just joyful.

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Speaker 1: You can feel the sort of energy and her enthusiasm kind of jumping out at you when you listen to this. And there's a few things right before we hear your fantastic chat with her that I want to call listeners' attention to because there's some really interesting threads and you kind of mentioned some of them right there. Number one, She's a Title nine kid. We talk about this a little bit. As many of our listeners know, Title nine was the landmark piece of legislation working towards equality between genders in sports and colleges in high schools, and it really created when it was passed in the seventies because of the congressional testimony by Billy Jean King. It had its roots in tennis, but affected sports across the board. The Olympians we know of the ninety six gold medal Olympic winning national soccer team Mia Ham, Brandy Chastain. This is really a legacy of Title nine. And Uzzo talks about being a child of Title nine, a daughter of Title nine as am I, which is an incredibly important sort of thing for women's athletics. And for her to turn around and become part of this landmark ownership group along with Serena Williams, along with Jessica Chastain.

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Speaker 5: Not Serena, Serena's daughter as well, the youngest sports franchise part owner in history of Lexus Olympia is.

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Speaker 2: Now a part owner of the soccer team.

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Speaker 4: So great, Yeah, I just that a legacy in itself. It's just amazing. It was just a conversation with these amazing women to get to get and you know, basically come together as a group and be ownership owners of this team. And there's there's many There's not just three or four, there's many, many, many, And we talk about that and the importance of women supporting women's sports is really important.

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Speaker 6: So if you're going to have success in the w in the soccer league, and you're going to have success.

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Speaker 4: In the w NBA and various things, you've got to have the support of other female viewership to go and buy the tickets and go and watch the games. And I think that's uber important. I think it's super important that she's a part of this just to just to give it some you know, advertisement in itself. But she's she's awesome. She's so much fun. We hung out a little bit at Wimbledon a couple of years ago when her mom was there with her sister. It was a bucket list thing for her mom to do. So there's some funny stories that she that we get into about Wimbledon.

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Speaker 6: But overall, can I just say too Before I started to do this interview.

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Speaker 4: She literally got nominated for another Emmy for Miss Americana, Missus America, and just an amazing role that she did at playing Shirley Chisholm, And you know, can you imagine, I like found that out and now before I was about to do the interview, so I knew that she was going to be a little tied on time, as she would have been getting calls and text messages like out the wazoo on that particular day. So another incredible acting performance from her.

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Speaker 1: Incredible for her also to make time because as you noted, it was the morning that she had received this semi nomination. And for people who don't know, Missus America is a great series Camp Blate Kate Blanchette is in it, Rose Byrne, and as you noted, Uzo plays Shirley Chisholm, the first black woman elected to Congress and then of course the first black woman who ran for president of the United States on the Democratic tick in the eighties. And Uzo's performance is amazing in this film. By the way, I mean, Kate Blanchette, anything she does.

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Speaker 2: I will watch.

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Speaker 1: But it was just so cool that she is such a multitudinous person, actor, thinker, leader, activist, a classically trained singer, singer, and also you know, like as we noted, incredible athletes. So it was a real privilege to listen to this episode. And you know, here's hoping that we, you and I can get some invitations to the new soccer team out in La.

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Speaker 2: Well you can't. I'm going to ride your code tails pre Usual.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thankfully I know a few of those owners, so that helps because there's a lot of them. So so anyway, everybody, I know, this is not our usual, but she actually technically is our second Orange is the new Black actor because Jason Biggs was our first, and now we have, of course the incredible Uzo a Duba And she does mention and I want to throw it. Their executive producer of owns the new Black Mary Tannenbaum, who is also a friend of both Jason and of Uzzo's, is the biggest.

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Speaker 6: Tennis fan I know, and I know she's going to be listening to this episode, So Mary, we're going to get you one day as well. But everybody please enjoy this because if there's ever been somebody who has more.

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Speaker 4: Light and joy in this world, it is this woman, I thgure about it. So I want to welcome today one of my really good friends at somebody that I do so much, not typically in the tennis world, but someone who loves tennis, and that is Usa Aduba, who is, of course now just in the last half an hour Emmy nominator for a Supporting Actress in a Limited Series or Movie for her portrayal of Shirley Chisholm in Miss Americana, which I love. USO, thank you for joining me today.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you, thank you so much for having me. This is crazy crazy.

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Speaker 4: Who would have thought, first of all, that you would be on a podcast talking about tennis, all things tennis. But you, of course I know. I actually met you. This is a great, great story. So I met you at the US Open. I was coming down a flyer stairs while I was working television. I was going up. Actually you were coming down and you were very upset about do you remember the moment. No, you were leaving the Roger Federer match, and you were very upset about the fact that you had to leave because the night session was coming on. And I said, and you were getting kicked out of your Emirates suite right, Yes, yes, yes, And I said, come with me. We're going to go up to the ESPN booth and watch it from up there. And you got to meet somebody that you and I introduced myself because they said, we have a mutual friend in Morgan James, who you're on God's spell with.

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Speaker 3: I believe, yes, and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you that's where we met. We met on the stairwell at the US Open. And your love for tennis was so obvious immediately. Why tennis for you? Because I know you grew up doing a lot of sports, But why tennis as a love.

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Speaker 3: I mean, definitely is because of my mom. My mom is like die hard, die hard tennis fan who you know also and she grew up playing tennis in Nigeria, where my family is from, and it was always on. I mean, it was always always on. I mean, and my mom was always running around, you know, one of five kids, she's always running around. But the world did stop for tennis. You know, the world would stop for tennis and she would be just so engulfed and it was just I guess it was just something that we did together. We would you know, would watch, you know, just a little bonding time go into the bedroom. She'd be in you know, her bed watching TV and be watching a match and would be watching either you play or watching Martina play or you know Chris. Yeah, she'd be watching tennis. She'd be watching matches, and it was like great bonding time. I was saying, you know, we'd watch players. We'd see players like yourself like hitting double. He'd see you know McEnroe play, see Martina play, see Stuffy Gross play. And then you know, like as time went on, I started like developed like it was like I like loved her favorite players, you know when I was younger, because she loved them and I didn't know anything about it. And then it became like I started to have my own players that I liked, and it was like I really loved like Pete Sampress and you know, the Williams sisters and Lindsay Davenports and yeah, so that was just kind of like how my own affair for tennis grew. And then the US Open was the first Grand Slam I ever went to, and I went I was in college, I had no money, Renee and my roommate, my roommate from in college, one of my best friends was a tennis player at the U and her high school, her private you know, coach had tickets to go Rich got Rich had tickets for the Open, and he had tickets for the women's final. And it was because yeah, it was Lindsay Davin for the Venus and yeah, and I like, I don't even I think I borrowed the money. Actually I think it borrowed the money. I'm actually sure of it. Borrowed money for my best friend Prowley, who I go to see, who we have annually we go every year to the US Open, Like the money to buy a bus ticket, my best friend from my hometown to buy a bus ticket down to New York. And I got these free tickets and we sat fourth throw what court side, Yes, court side, because that wasn't you know what? And it's like that wasn't actually the tickets that we had. We had tickets that were further away. And then as we were coming in like young kids, there was some guy who was lead. I don't know why he was not going to the match, to be honest with you, I don't know why. Some emergency must have come up in his life. And he's like, do you want these tickets to the open, We're like, yes, and we sat.

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Speaker 4: Did you were you boggaining on the fact that your ones were kind of shitty and this guy's probably are a little better than you us, So you were like he told.

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Speaker 3: I think he told he told if you other told us or told Rick, I don't know. He told. Somebody knew that we were getting like a significant upgrade because I had gone. I had gone maybe like the week previous, and I had seen Leyton Hewitt. I don't even remember who he was playing at the time, but we were in the second to last row.

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Speaker 4: You told me such a great story of the fact that your mom went from Nigeria, but didn't go from Nigeria to the US. She went to Sweden to coach tennis.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: She was in Sweden. No, she was in Sweden to live, and then she came to the US and then she was, yes, and she was coaching tennis there for a bit, and then was teaching at some school in Connecticut, private school in Connecticut where she was also coaching tennis.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever find out the story of like how your mom, I mean, Nigeria is not like the hotbed of a tennis mecca. So I'm just like wondering how your mom even got into tennis.

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Speaker 3: To tell the honest truth, I don't. I honestly don't know, And that's a really great question to ask her. I don't know how her like entree began with that sport. I'm guessing because my mom went to a boarding school in Nigeria. I'm assuming I don't know this for a fact, that it was like somewhere there that she discovered tennis. As my guess, I don't actually know how she found it, but similar to like my own like immediate I guess, falling in love, like she talks about it and was like she minute one loved it, like loved it, loved the rules, love the the everything, like this whole quarantine. You know, she is like Tennis channels, you know, biggest fan right now because she likes all of it. She's happy to watch reruns, she's happy to listen to the like conversations like the Andy Roddicks and everybody at home, you know, chatting about it anytime, anytime you call her. It's like tennis. Her uh sister, my aunt is also like a huge tennis fan, my auntie Daisy, and like when it's no matter what the I mean? They just both straight watched us all the time. That's her tennis buddy. You know who she'll talk matches with if it doesn't matter if it's Australian Open and it's happening in the middle of the night, they are up watching it and like dissecting it as if they're getting a check.

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Speaker 4: Like they are like they're getting a check. They're huge. Your mom, your mom. When I introdew when you guys all came to Wimbledon and you brought you brought your mom to Wimbledon, which was the greatest thing ever. You came with your sisters and your mom and you watched I believe it was the Women's final that day, and I remember walking over. You introduced me to your mom, who was just like this lot know where you get your personality from, there's no question. And I brought Martina over to take a photo. Do you remember this? So she just got a photo with Billy Jean King and then she has a photo with Martina and she looks up at Martina and says, do you remember what she said?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: What did she say?

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Speaker 4: She said, it's so nice to meet you, and then she said, where's Chris.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say.

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Speaker 4: She's like, Okay, I love you Martina, but where is Chris. I love that. Your mom is like, yes, you're all amazing, but where is my Chris?

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Speaker 3: E who I love? I do I remember? I was like, oh mg, but you let me tell you a story. Also, do you remember, well you might have might have been when you were getting uh Billy Jeane King my mom, you know my mom does. I was saying, my mom so rarely gets like she does this thing when she's excited to meet someone. She's very rarely like like shows her fandom, you know what I mean, like a fan, you know. But when she is she does this thing where she starts like straightening up, like like she starts like straightening up herself, you know. And I kid you not like I've seen her do it maybe like all of three times. Like the first time I remember was like in high school. We were in London and she was seeing meeting the Archbishop of Canterbury and she started like straightening like up. She was like, how do I look through it? And I was like, you look fine, Like what are you doing? Like it's like you can't change. We're here, you know what I mean like whatever. And another time was at Wimbledon when we were going to go meet Billy Jean King and my mom because we were sitting you remember outside like at that where the table where Martina had to come over, yah, and we had been there and my mom started straightening up. She started straightening up again and was like, how do I look? And I was like, oh, she's nervous. It's like I've rarely ever seen her nervous and certainly never seen her nervous excited to meet someone, but for a few occasions. And I was like, you look great, and she was like okay, and like really exciting. I mean in the picture. I have this pictures still forever. I will forever be indebtity because it's like she was just being and all these photos because it was like, my mom's only ever had one bucket list. Yeah, and her one bucket list was to go to every Grand Slam and she's since been to all of them.

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Speaker 4: So what does she think about what you've been able to achieve?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: I mean what and what made you because you were a track athlete I believe at Boston University, and what what made you go into acting and singing? A lot of people don't realize. They know, your role obviously is crazy eyes on Oranges and you're black, and now you know you're you're amazing rendition that you just got Emmy nominated for Miss Americana with Shelley Chisholm. But what what people don't realize that you're actually an incredible singer, You're opera trained, you you were on Broadway, Like what made you go into that.

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Speaker 3: Go into the arts? I mean I always loved to do it when I was a kid. I just I always loved it. I always thought it was so much fun. I didn't know like the business or anything. I just liked it. I just thought it was fun to do. I enjoyed, I was loud, I talked a lot, you know, like all of these things. And so when I was in high school, going into or finishing my junior year of high school, I guess my creative writing teacher, who was my drama teacher also for the drama club, like kept me after class one day and she said, asked me what I was planning to do. And at that point, I thought I was going to go to school and become a lawyer. And so I was rattling off all these colleges that I thought I was going to apply to, you know, and this is what I want to do, real dummy.

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Speaker 4: You up.

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Speaker 3: And she was like hmm, okay, okay, And she was like ever thought about going into the arts? And I was like, and I hadn't.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a family. My parents are first generation. My parents are from Nigeria.

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Speaker 4: It's not did you know you could sing? At that point?

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Speaker 3: I did know I I could sing? I didn't know I could sing. I sang started singing like with the knowledge. I guess that I could sing in about sixth grade and I was doing the musicals and things. But I just didn't know that it was a job. I just didn't know there was a a I didn't know. Not only I didn't know it was the job, and I didn't know there was a pathway of study to get to it, you know. And I think that's just being first gen that just didn't exist in Nigeria, you know what I mean. It's not that they were My parents are actually very supportive. It's not that they weren't supportive of it. It just I don't think they just I just don't think they knew.

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Speaker 4: Like, It's funny how people asked me the question about how did you know you wanted to be a tennis planner? So I didn't really know it was a path. It wasn't a pathway for me that I didn't think, oh, I'm gonna make money doing this. I just did it because I loved it. And then you find yourself or who you are like standing up for. Was this your third Emmy nomination I believe, or more than that probably. So one of the things I wanted to ask you about was, you know this part ownership now with the LA Angels in the Women's Soccer League.

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Speaker 3: How was that?

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Speaker 4: Because of your love of sports and obviously know that you're such a fighter for equality in every respect, how did that come about? Who contacted you about that? And and and and I guess why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that came about through Natalie Important. You know, wanting We had already been wanting to support women's sports, so we went to a match in LA a year and change ago, and in support and then in supporting women's teams, and you know, of course the inequity that they're experiencing in terms of equal pay currently. And so she had reached out about this, and it just felt like it did feel like a no brainer, you know, I, you know, I am a beneficiary, a product of chapter nine, you know what I mean, like from athletic scholarship at Boston University for track and field, as is my younger sister, Chi Chi. And you know, again, my mom was an athlete her whole life. My older sister was a softball player. Like so, I grew up in a women's sports house and in fact, more sports between my siblings, girls and boys than the arts. You know. The arts was there present, but it was We were a very heavy leaning sports family and so and my family was one that celebrated girls and women in sports, but there weren't enough examples of it in a wide ranging number of sports, at least professionally. It felt like always growing up that it was like tennis, figure skating, and then it really felt like tennis only all the time of women being celebrated, you know what I mean, level at a professional level. And then it just kind of felt like every four years, for two weeks during the Olympics, you got to see these incredible female athletes and that didn't seem like the way vision I wanted life to continue. And I have a young niece who is an exceptional soccer player who I wanted just something different for her, you know, like I think our lives are to be used as examples, and I wanted her to see more examples of women participating in sports at the highest level. And I just thought, what better way than to help support these women and support this club and try and build that out for more and more examples both on the field of women but also women off the field leading as well, which I think is also important. And I think we're in a really critical time right now where people have to support the things that we want to see change.

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Speaker 4: I agree, I think that and more power to you and all the women that supported that. And it's obviously every person that owns is a part ownership of that team is female, and I think that's important. It's one of the things that I say about, you know, the women even the WNBA, the soccer league obviously with tennis, but it's really important for women to support women's sports.

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Speaker 3: I think that's.

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Speaker 4: Something that we fall behind in is that, you know, sports are seen as a dude thing, right, but women like to watch sports, but they don't usually go to a sporting event unless it's football. They're dragged there by their boyfriend or their husband. So I think it's really important for women say, hey, let's go and support these women's sports events. If we want a quality, we have to support the women playing sports and actually go and attend and pay money to go and see them instead of watching them on the TV.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and like really show up for them. It's like, and I think all those things are important in terms of like action and social actions, and all of those things are very powerful and I think they matter. But I also think it's like, you know, you have to put your money where your action is too sometimes so that that can also drive change in really really effective ways. So and it's and women's sports, you know, like here's the thing. How excited women's sports are is something that gets lost, you know, like when you think about it. Every year during the Olympics, we're captivated by women's gymnastics. We're captivated by women's track and field, there are some we're captivated by women's tennis. Again, you know there we're watching women's We watch women's tennis now totally a thrilling sport. From A to Z. We see women's that are exciting players across the board. Look at how you know a cocoa goth has captured the world's attention. You know what I'm saying. So it's we should be supporting all women's sports because women in sport is just as exciting as men's sports.

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Speaker 4: So absolutely, some of the best stories, you know, even the women's ice hookey team from the Lost Times perhaps one of the most fun like incredible thrilling exactly was was you know your appearance in Miss Americana is Shirley playing Sholey, whch is such a iconic figure in female in politics in this country? Was that interesting for you to like get to know every ins and outs of like her life and having to actually feel that and you know, your constant fight for equality. But was that even like wow, a while moment for you to sort of step into that body per se.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, she's a figure who I had come to discover, you know when I first moved to New York after reading a book that she was in, and I was so shocked that I didn't know as much about her as I should have. Frankly, you know, I knew her name, mostly because, like my mom, was part of that era, but I didn't know the ins and outs, so I didn't certainly didn't know that she was the first woman, the first black person to have ever run for president. I did not know that, and I was shocked to know that. And I was just so thankful and honored to be able to step into her choose her life, and try my very best to tell her story and tell it well with the fullness of her existence, you know, and try and go just to touch further than just you know, what we see in her speeches, And I'm glad. I was glad to see it, and I was glad to see her story along with all the other women's stories who some of which have been lost over time. Frankly, you know, there are a lot of those women who we haven't we haven't seen or known and understood that were the giants who made it possible for all of us to experience a different line.

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess two things on that. One, it has to be taught in school. As you said, you didn't get taught that. It needs to be taught in school. And certainly there's no question that we've figured out finally that we need to find out about the history of African Americans is come and where it stems from and where it comes from, and it needs to be taught to all the kids in school from the beginning. So that'll harp. But second of all, I did text you when I was watching the show, and I did ask you if you could keep the jewelry that you were wearing on the show.

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Speaker 3: I know you were like really into the.

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Speaker 4: Jewel so into the jewelry. So you and I have a mutual friend Nary Tanneball, who's like basically was executive producer of Orons is a New Black And I said to her last night, I said, I'm interviewing, so tell me some funny stories. She goes, oh, you have to ask her. We missed a big match at the French Open because we got caught in the Moway ten.

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Speaker 3: Well, Mary, who we I discovered on set. I discovered on set. We had like just as deep a love of tennis as I do. She is my like tennis buddy. We will text during match in the tournament, text over everything. And when we went to France, I think she he was originally already going. I can't remember, but we made it. We and and then I decided to go, or vice versa. But we were like we're going, We're definitely when we scheduled it to make sure we were like there at the same time, and because we'd taken our love for tennis, you know, from uh going together at the US Open to now like now we're going tennis abroad. We're at the French Open, you know, like our tennis adventures are taking us overseas. And it was just such a great time, like you know, you know, tennis is like to watch is so fun. It's like the thrill of it. But then there's also like the behind the scenes, like so much like excite and joy, partying, having a good time. And so we discovered right right right, right right right, Well you've seen it. You've seen it, though, I see it. Yeah, yeah, you know what's happening. But yeah, we found that they had this whole tent just like all they were serving was like Moet and you know, champagne will catch up with you if you're not careful, and it did that day. So did that day, and we just lost track of time. We were talking about our time there, what we've been doing, what matches we had scheduled to see. But it was such a great time. And Neery, who is just one of the one of the you know, she's just one of the best people, just like such a great spirit, such great energy, such a talent too at what she does it. She's she's just the best. You can talk to her for hours, you know, she's just such a good time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't want to keep you any longer because I know that you know you just as I said, being nominated for an Emmy, So you're gonna I'm sure your phone is ringing up, the book, everything's blowing up, texting your PR agents, who I also know is probably like, what are you doing, where are you? Where are you? You blame it all on me, But I want one last story from you about the best moment that you had at a tennis event that you can recall other than I'm going to take away the Wimbledon moment with your mom because I think that's a family thing that you had. But was if there one special moment at a Grand Slam that you just you're so thankful that you were there to witness.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I have to always go back to that first final women's final. I mean, that's like seared in my memory watching Venus Williams win, and that was two thousand and one, I believe, and I had been you know that they were the Williams sisters were really you know how I started my own personal love affair with tennis and watching them play with such power and energy and athleticism and skill, and that was something that I loved watching when I was growing up because you know, I think as an athlete as well, seeing that form of athleticism Black women being celebrated with that level of athleticism was such a rare thing to see, but to see it done so remarkably in them was just awesome. I could see myself in them, you know, down to the beaded hair, all of it. I could see myself in them, and like my existence being validated in them, and so that was like the start of it. And so then to just be able to sit there in the front at the stadium to watch it for myself, like I said, with the same energy that I just imagined existed there was just unbelievable. It was just truly unbelievable. And then it's just consu distantly rolled into more exciting times, whether that's watching Serena when countless times after that, it's just that that's been my greatest thrill.

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Speaker 4: Well, on that note, it was actually two thousand Venus beat Lindsay, it was six four seventy five, and then Venus beat Serena the following year. The Williams sisters at that moment had been in the final four years. They were in the final four years in a row, back to back to back those years.

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Speaker 2: So it was.

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Speaker 4: Incredible, and they've done an amazing job of inspiring all the very very especially young African American tennis players from this country to come forward, including Sloan Stevens who won the US Open herself. All these incredible now Coca goth So anyway, I on that note, I know that you are going to inspire millions of young girls that look as you say, just like you to come forward and be incredible actors and win Emmy's. And thanks so much for joining me. I'm going to put myself back on video and say goodbye to and congrats again. Amazing day for you. I know, so so much love. I hope we get together sooner rather than later. Yes, I know, because what people don't realize is how good a cook you are as well. I'll be over for anything.

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Speaker 3: Yes, grilling again. We're another.

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Speaker 4: We can go outside now, I can actually see you from afar.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: You love you so much, love you to thank you for having me on, and thank you for being such a champion for women always.

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Speaker 1: And that's it for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast. Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to Tim or Jerry and then the team at acast. Find us at racketmag dot com, slash podcast and subscribe to us at any of your favorite podcatchers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah